Time to Pivot into a new year: Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor & Channing Crowder NFL and College football picks, reveal their top sports moments in 2024, 12 team College Football Playoffs, Parenting, a day to relive this year and 2025 Advice

"Stay in the moment, take ownership of your life and Identify what success looks like on your own terms."- Fred Taylor Farewell to 2024 and ready for 2025? Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down for a reflective conversation about life, parenting, family, work, sports and discuss what's to come. 2024 year comes to a close and the guys are chatting about this time of year, the lessons learned, things we wish we could redo, the opportunities we hope for, the work we put in and the commitment we give to the things and people we love. Do you ever take a minute and think back to a day and wish you could redo that day or have that moment back to relive? Well the guys do just that, as they each look back at a very impactful time they had this past year and share why it was so instrumental and meaningful. Sometimes it's the simplest of things that mean the most and often the ones we take for granted. A lesson for everyone is to understand time is beyond our control and that we can never be too busy or too disconnected to understand the defining points of our journey. Ryan asks the guys to each share their top moment in sports and Channing has his immediately but is in disbelief he's choosing this moment, since he hated on it so much. Fred talks about the power of the Olympics this summer and how it united the world but also allowed us all to learn the journeys of so many young athletes. Ryan reflects on the Freeman family, winning the World Series and what it meant to the sports world but the inspiration it was for so many who were touched by Freddie Freeman sharing his story. College Football is all the talk in sports right now with the new 12 team playoff format and heading into the bowl games with the final 8 teams standing. Ryan is personally loving this as his son Jordan, playing for Notre Dame, is matching up against College football's elite, the Georgia Bulldogs, as Ryan shares what the moment means for him as a father and also how much he is loving this new play in tournament. Fred and Channing are fans of this new format and as former SEC guys are excited to have competitive football in December, not just the one game in January. The guys give their NFL round-up heading into the last week of the football season and give flowers to the players who have had insane seasons, break out years, playoff teams and reveal their picks of who will make it to the big game in February. Talking Ravens, Lions, Bengals, Vikings, Bills, Chiefs and more....and who do they have for the 2024 NFL MVP pick? Closing out the show, instead of New Year's Resolutions, each guy shares something they want to work on in 2025 and a Pivotal message of help, hope and reassurance to anyone listening to this conversation. Fred is stepping back and trying to tune out the noise of others while living in the moment of his own wins, success and happiness. Channing's direct message is needed while Ryan's own experiences and struggles this past year is leading him to have a different approach in the new year. Powerful words and message from the guys hoping to resonate with all of our Pivot family for the days and months to come. Here's to wishing you all a Happy, Healthy and Pivotal new year, may all your coming days be full of life and love. Follow us on your favorite audio platform and hit the subscribe button on YouTube to be the first to know about guests, new episodes and latest content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  All right, fellas. Here it is, man. The last show of 2024.

• 0:52Ryan Clark?

  I want to say this before we start. This episode is brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. New Year's tomorrow. I mean, a lot has happened. For the pivot in our lives, 2024 was definitely interesting. But, I mean, got to start, man. How was Christmas?

• 1:12Channing Crowder?

  Good. You know, I got my, I'm down in Jamaica for Christmas. Fam still down there, but nah, it was good, man. Thing we do is every other year, we switch from all them damn presents to an experience. So we get a house in Jamaica or different places and do an experience more to let the kids kind of travel the world, not just get all this crap.

• 1:30Ryan Clark?

  How do the kids take that, though? Do they, whether the gifts or the trip? Be real, because kids love gifts.

• 1:37Channing Crowder?

  You know, LaChaz ain't with it. He want his damn bicycle. Yeah, LaChaz be like, to hell with this beach. But they enjoy it. I think the older kids do enjoy the experiences of it. So that's my kind of thing. You know, I'm not a material dude, but I do like to experience things. So now I'm trying to put that in the kids. Asia likes to travel a lot as well. So we do, we offset every other year. We do experience and then we do the whole Christmas trip with all the gifts piled up.

• 2:01Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, but you still got young kids. So like, I can understand why one might like gifts versus the experience. All of my boys are a bit older. So for those guys, man, they like, what's this? So we put an empty box there and say, all right, you guys, these are plane tickets to Paris. Here are hoodies that say Taylor Takeover, Paris 2025.

• 2:26Fred Taylor?

  They was like, what the hell is this? So I, I get it. We kind of caught them off guard. They don't immediately show how grateful they are. They'll pull you to the side and say, thank you. Give you the hug, the dap up, or whatever, the pound. But my kids, man, um, for them, I sent you something earlier today, RC, about Santa and all of that. My kids have known that I've been their Santa for forever, right? And whenever I get them something, you know, again, it's not immediate, like a response, they kind of have to let it set in. Then they come back and say, oh, this is great. I can do this, this, this, this, and this. So we do the same thing. Experience one year, toys one year. And really, the toys just get lost in translation like that. That's sort of a waste.

• 3:10Fred Taylor?

  I prefer to give them something, you know, something like memorable. Something that they can hold on to. We can share the photos, the experience, you know, all that stuff. So that's where we at this year.

• 3:21Channing Crowder?

  With the Santa thing, I'm still saying somebody. No, no, no. I'm just saying somebody climbed down the chimney, even though we don't got a chimney. Our, our fireplace is electric. They got glass in the front, but I'm still saying somebody's coming in our house. I don't, I don't know what the older kids.

• 3:38Ryan Clark?

  I told, I told my kids very early.

• 3:40Channing Crowder?

  Really?

• 3:41Ryan Clark?

  I told, I told my kids very early. My parents told me when I was like nine. I had this long Christmas list one year, and I wanted everything. On the top of the list was a Sega Genesis, first off. And then it was a whole bunch of other foolishness that I didn't really need. But I was like, if this big fat dude finna come down the chimney, I should have unlimited options. I'm a straight A student, you know? And my parents told me, I will say this, like, the thing I loved about learning is my list, my list got so much shorter. And the gifts became so much more important. You know, I didn't grow up like my kids grew up where you could ask for an infinite amount of things.

• 4:24Ryan Clark?

  And actually, my parents could get it if they wanted to. You know, I knew my parents couldn't. I knew how hard they worked. And so when that list went from the Sega Genesis and 20 other things to just the Sega Genesis, but I got it and I got an extra game, and then they bought me stuff on top of that. That meant so much to me, right? I even looked at it differently, took care of it differently. So I told my kids really young, but not for like, so they knew it was me. I think I was just like lazy. I feel like something happened and I forgot a tooth. And I was supposed to like put money under the pillow for the tooth fairy. And so I just gave Logan money or something like that. Like my bad baby, daddy forgot.

• 5:06Ryan Clark?

  And so when that happened, then we got into like the Easter Bunny conversation, into the Santa Claus conversation and all of that. But the coolest thing that happened from them finding out I was Santa Claus, or I bought the gifts, or we bought the gifts, was we turned it into a conversation about what Christmas is supposed to mean spiritually. So then they could only get three gifts because Jesus only got three gifts at his birth. And so then it became this cool thing where we'd tell that story. They'd ask for three things, get those three things, or ask for five and get three of them. And so that was kind of the transition for us.

• 5:44Channing Crowder?

  Three? We got action now. I appreciate that, brother. Because yeah, we be having some stuff piled up under that damn tree.

• 5:51Ryan Clark?

  They're not gonna use it all.

• 5:52Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, it's gonna be waste. Yeah, you know what? My mom, my mom one time, she wrapped a deodorant. Swear to God.

• 6:05Ryan Clark?

  It's important.

• 6:06Channing Crowder?

  It's important, but...

• 6:07Ryan Clark?

  It's a necessity.

• 6:09Channing Crowder?

  And I chose it as, you know, the gift, the Christmas Eve gift?

• 6:14Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 6:14Channing Crowder?

  So you saw everything. It was a cylinder deodorant. So I'm like, oh, it gotta be a truck. It gotta be something. So I chose, hey, one gift, Christmas Eve, I picked that one. And she tried to discourage me. She was like, no, grab another. I'm like, no, I want this one. I'm thinking there's a car. And I opened up some deodorant on Christmas Eve.

• 6:33Ryan Clark?

  It was more than a car. It was gonna save not only your life, but other people's lives, because you looked like you was a musty kid. And so I feel like, and so I feel like that mom knew. I mean, that was, I mean, that's a better gift than an NBA basketball game on Christmas.

• 6:49Fred Taylor?

  Boy, that was a hell of a, you slid that in there, bro. But you're legendary, dawg. You are so good.

• 6:57Ryan Clark?

  Oh, thank you.

• 6:58Fred Taylor?

  We did an interview some months ago, and they told me, don't you be giving him too many flowers. He already know what he like. Well, bro, you good, man.

• 7:05Ryan Clark?

  Thank you, man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. But Bron, man, Bron said it's his day.

• 7:11Fred Taylor?

  Mello hot, too.

• 7:13Ryan Clark?

  Mello hot, too?

• 7:13Fred Taylor?

  I think, well, Mello was like, y'all, come on, NBA, y'all, I mean, NFL, y'all know that's our day. I get it. I get it. Like, historically, yes. But the way things are moving, I mean, the NFL wants peace, too, and Netflix obviously wants a piece. And what Jay-Z say, uh, men lie, women lie?

• 7:31Ryan Clark?

  Not numbers.

• 7:32Fred Taylor?

  Numbers don't.

• 7:33Channing Crowder?

  Football is king. Football is king.

• 7:36Fred Taylor?

  Always been king in this country.

• 7:38Channing Crowder?

  And it's always gonna be, and that's why Netflix said, oh, we got everybody sitting at home?

• 7:42Ryan Clark?

  NBA will always have Martin Luther King Day.

• 7:45Channing Crowder?

  That's their day? That's their day? You can have MLK.

• 7:49Ryan Clark?

  JJ Reddick with all two.

• 7:50Fred Taylor?

  Right, right.

• 7:52Channing Crowder?

  You can have that one. Bro, and they brought Beyonce? You know I'm a part of the Beehive now.

• 7:57Ryan Clark?

  Yes, we remember this.

• 7:58Channing Crowder?

  They brought Beyonce on there? What was it, 65 million? I was in Jamaica with the family over our family's house.

• 8:09Channing Crowder?

  Everybody stopped when halftime started. I'm talking about kids, grown up, grandma, 75-year-old grandma. As soon as they went to halftime of that Texas game, no more Uno, no more, what is it, LCR, all them games. Everybody in the house stopped and powered up in front of the TV.

• 8:26Ryan Clark?

  Bro, it was amazing, though. Like legitimately, I hadn't listened to the whole country album, but I know there'd been all of these other African-American country stars that have, you know, kind of ascended and skyrocketed after being on Beyonce's album. She was able to get them to all be a part of the halftime show. She had the band, man, she had the truck, she riding in the back of the cars. Like, everything was on point, the dancing, Blue Ivy comes out. Like, to, for the NFL, now, you do have that association with Jay as well. For the NFL to be like, not only are we going to put games on Christmas Day, we're gonna wrap the games around a Beyonce concert.

• 9:10Ryan Clark?

  You can't lose with that. And if you Netflix, you had to be fired up about it, who now made it where you could just go watch the halftime show.

• 9:18Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, and I think that was brilliant, but it goes back to a deal that they already had in place with her, which was a three-performance, $60 million deal. So it was like a double down for Netflix. So like, it's like, buy one, get one. So, yeah, it was brilliant. But even more so, when Lamar Jackson said he was gonna try to go and sneak a peek, go watch the show, you kind of knew what time it was, right? So I think when it comes down to the United States of America and football, obviously, the most popular sport. And when the NFL, for me, as a season ticket holder when I was, 82 games, which is so many games, you're getting three a week.

• 9:58Fred Taylor?

  Unless I'm a real fanatic about my team, which I'm not, per se, three games a week is just tough to keep up with, right? Like... You gotta be doing something else. You can't just watch that all, you know, three games a week. I, I can't. Especially trying to get a little football, a little basketball, a little this and that. I just can't keep up with it.

• 10:20Channing Crowder?

  Man, this is genius at a Netflix. We always talk about, what was it, Purple Rain in Miami with Prince? Who was that, U2? Like, people rank their Super Bowl halftime shows. Why has nobody done a halftime show other than that? Netflix said, you know what? We gonna throw one on.

• 10:41Ryan Clark?

  But here, but here's the other thing we have to remember. Thanksgiving had two of them, right? They had Shaboozie, Laney did the second one. Uh, remember Jack Harlow was in Detroit last year. Beyonce is just different. Like truly the greatest performer of, of our era. And my question is though, what is Kendrick gonna do? Because when, if you would compare him to the Thanksgiving concert or the Thanksgiving halftime shows, you would say, oh nah, man, like, that's easy. And you're obviously, we're already going to compare him to the halftime shows of Super Bowl past, right?

• 11:24Ryan Clark?

  It was gonna be Bruno Mars, it'll be Dr. Dre, it'll be Usher, it'll be Rihanna. Prince singing in the purple, like, how does that even happen?

• 11:34Channing Crowder?

  Fifty hung upside down with a belly out.

• 11:36Ryan Clark?

  Right, yeah, like, so, so you got all those though, Chan. But now, just recently, in this, in late December, Beyonce puts on a concert in Houston where she's from. An entire country album representing different genres of music, being the queen of R and B now. And so now I gotta backdoor that and I'm a rapper? I'm a rapper. And so like, I think that what's cool is, and y'all know this, the NFL has taken over the entire year, right? Because right after you have the Super Bowl, we immediately start talking about the draft. You get the Combine, right? You get the workouts, you get the pro days, and then they have draft. And then you have mini camps and OTAs and you talk about that.

• 12:21Ryan Clark?

  They have like a, a section of the world or a section of time from like July to August, where they're dead and they still figure out things to make you talk about.

• 12:31Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, it's only a matter of time before, I mean. The NFL, the Super Bowl at some point, well, I don't know if it'll make Netflix. But, you know, I don't, I don't see, like, the NBA All-Star Game. They're trying to do so much to get eyes back on that All-Star Game that it, it doesn't seem right. So, just to go back to LeBron and Mello, you guys, they can't compete. They, they definitely can't compete with the NFL. And I think, like you said, RC, it's a year-long entertainment business and everybody want a piece of it.

• 13:07Channing Crowder?

  I tell you, Kendrick better have some damn features.

• 13:10Ryan Clark?

  He'll have features.

• 13:10Channing Crowder?

  He gotta bring some people out.

• 13:12Fred Taylor?

  People gonna forget about Beyonce.

• 13:13Channing Crowder?

  He better play Like Us four times.

• 13:16Ryan Clark?

  Can't do that.

• 13:17Channing Crowder?

  And have some features. Yes, he, he just did it in the concert in L.A. He played Like Us six, seven times.

• 13:22Ryan Clark?

  That's a, and it's not like us. There's a concert. So, he, one, for Kendrick, he's a performer, right? If you've ever seen him at the Grammys, even when you saw him as one of the features for Dre in L.A., like Kendrick dances and choreographs and all those things. So, I believe it'll be a full show. And I think that's why you pick him is because you know that, like, he's a true artist. But it's still Beyonce. People aren't lining up. People in Jamaica aren't necessarily stopping for that. And so I think, like, like, that's gonna be the interesting thing. And it's like one of those moments in 2024 that people will remember when it comes to sports. If you had one moment that you could point to and you could be like,

• 14:05Ryan Clark?

  this was a defining sports moment of 2024, what would it be? That you think people gonna always look back on in 2024 and say, this was one of them things.

• 14:16Channing Crowder?

  It's so funny.

• 14:17Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 14:18Channing Crowder?

  Because I hated on it all.

• 14:20Fred Taylor?

  Oh, wow. Not Deion in Colorado, no?

• 14:23Channing Crowder?

  No.

• 14:25Fred Taylor?

  Because you hated on it.

• 14:26Channing Crowder?

  First thing popped up was LeBron getting his son on an NBA team.

• 14:32Channing Crowder?

  That is, bro, that is amazing to me. That is Bronny being in the NBA, playing the game, getting the historic night of him, them doing that little pick and roll that didn't work. And now, they go down to G League, like LeBron changed the landscape of the NBA by getting his son a multi-year deal because he's so good. So that would be the thing, I'm telling you, as soon, I didn't know you was gonna ask, as soon as you asked it, the first thing popped in my mind was LeBron getting Bronny an NBA contract where he can play basketball, but he can't play basketball at that level.

• 15:09Fred Taylor?

  Right. Yeah, I think for me, in sports is really the Olympics, you know, just falling into this year after the world was crazy just four years prior with the pandemic and all of that, you know, just seeing the entire sports world come together in Paris. And once again, the US dominate, you know, the way that we always have, those are always everlasting memory. And then to have, you know, Quincy on the show, you know, Messiah on the show. So we also had a laser on the show, so really kind of pivoting into our little track space there, and we got more to do, y'all, don't forget, we got a lot more coming up in track.

• 15:53Fred Taylor?

  Just a lot of memories there, and just to see them go out and compete and do their thing and represent the country, that's always good.

• 16:01Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I thought, I thought all of those moments were huge. For me, and I kind of got an opportunity to talk about it, it was Freddie Freeman's Grand Slam in the World Series, game one, 10th inning, and, you know, baseball isn't necessarily America's game anymore, right? It isn't the sport that people tap into like they used to. So many games, so many people. Circulating teams, changing from team to team, getting $700 million contracts. And it's almost, it's almost difficult to connect to these dudes anymore. And Freddie Freeman, a former MVP on a team that's loaded, right?

• 16:46Ryan Clark?

  You got Mookie, you got, you got Shohei, you got Freddie, and they batted in a row. You know what I mean? And you're playing against the Yankees, right? Like when, when you have an opportunity to get those two teams together and to find out early on that their son Maximus has a neurological disease that's going to attack his nerves. You know, we always talk about our kids, man. Like, I can't imagine, like, I know what it's like to watch my kids play sports or to be waiting for them to take a test. I can't imagine knowing they have something, a disease or illness, that's going to affect them the rest of their lives, that at some point I could have a possibility of burying my child. Right?

• 17:30Ryan Clark?

  Like, I, I don't know how you don't think about that daily. And to, to be in the moment, in the 10th inning, and to be able to play, to be early on in the pitch count and say, "No, I'm swinging, and I'm swinging for the fences." And to hit that homerun, and to know what it's like when you have that big game and you go home and you get to see your babies, or you have that great day, you go home to get to see your babies. The same thing for me. Like, those are family accomplishments. And to be able to do that on that stage, in that moment, to be present for that, I feel like that's one of those times, I know you always say, like, everybody praying, God doesn't care who wins.

• 18:13Ryan Clark?

  I felt like God cared who won. Maybe not the series, maybe not the game, but that at bat, that moment, to be able to share. And so that's one that sticks out to me because it's kind of bigger than sports.

• 18:25Channing Crowder?

  And it just, just happened in Jamaica. Where little Chaz is running around, they're playing basketball. And one of his cousins is autistic. And I'm seeing the mother and the father, you know, struggle to have, you know, have him, you know, corral him and let him play with the kids because, you know, he's on the spectrum. And I'm just, I'm sitting back, you talking about appreciation, man, 2024, 2024, never here. Like, sitting back and looking at appreciation. Like, I was just looking like, man, they have it, their life is way harder than my life. They're the same, I think his birthday is February, Chaz is June.

• 19:09Channing Crowder?

  So like, I'm like, they're right, they're the same, they're, and they're same height, and they're running around. And I'm just seeing his parents really struggle with it. And I'm like, man, to your point, like, God blessed us. You know what I'm saying? Like, and at that moment, like, there was nothing. So for the, you know, the next couple of days, like, I'm just looking, watching Chaz run on the beach and stuff. And I'm, I'm thinking about, you know, his cousin, and I'm like, man, like, you really need to appreciate the small things. And that hit me, it's crazy when you just said it, man, that hit me, that you overlook a lot of things until you see the wider spectrum of life, you know, no pun intended, but I was like, wow, man, like, we're blessed.

• 19:52Channing Crowder?

  I'm blessed, Chan, Ava, Chaz, like, we're blessed seeing the whole, the whole thing that was going on and all the kids running around and just, uh,

• 20:02Channing Crowder?

  yeah, that got to me.

• 20:03Fred Taylor?

  But, you know, I, I think on a previous episode, I think that's what the, you know, even if you miss it throughout the year, or you miss those moments, you don't have time to kind of, you know, slow everything down, that's what the end of the year and the holidays does. That it'll slow you down and you put back in perspective, like, you do a recap, you know, of your whole entire year and say, all right, I want to do these things differently going forward. And sometimes it puts you in that mindset where you can just sit down and kind of enjoy the moment, right? Enjoy seeing your kids run around, enjoy spending that time with your misses, family, friends. That's what the holidays do all the time.

• 20:46Fred Taylor?

  But I think if I could ask both of you something, just outside of sports, right?

• 20:53Fred Taylor?

  Is there a day that you would look back on this year in 2024? That you can go back and hope to relive it?

• 21:02Ryan Clark?

  The day, and mine was very early in the year. It would be the day we drove Jordan from Tempe to South Bend. 26 hours.

• 21:12Ryan Clark?

  You know. Big Mike was there? My daddy was there, right? It was me, Pops, Jordan, Yonk, and the dog. You know, and we platooned it. But it was, it was one, it was like this whole sort of collection of like my experiences, like together. You know what I'm saying? My father, who was there for all of those moments for me, for like every move in, every drop off at the airport, until I made it to the league. You know, obviously my wife, who I've raised Jordan with, and then him and his dog, actually. You know what I mean? My grandpup is what I call him.

• 21:53Ryan Clark?

  And it's like, and we're driving, and like when you start off in Tempe, it was like 75 degrees. Right? And the closer we got to South Bend, the colder it got. And so you wake up at 5:00 in the morning in Missouri, and it's zero degrees. Right? The dog hopped out the car. He turned back around. He was like, pissing ain't that important. You know what I mean? And so like, and you get there, and like, it was the one experience of bringing him to ASU and moving him in, and the excitement that he was embarking on this, on this journey where he would become a man, and all of these different things. And we all drop him off, and it was like this happy, full experience because it was like the

• 22:36Ryan Clark?

  living in the unknown was so great because you knew there was so much growth to come. And then now you're dropping off this grown man who's lived four years there and done all of these things there, who is making the decision that even I felt he may have been unsure of, and you have no idea what it's going to be. But you know that like you're just all doing it together. You know, and like the conversations we were able to have, the music, the, the just living on the road and just trying to figure it out. I think that was just like a time where in our lives, like things don't slow down. Especially for like, I'm just always moving. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't remember the last time I had that dude in Four Walls where he actually talked to me.

• 23:21Ryan Clark?

  For two hours, much less, much less 26, man. And I think to experience that with him and to even with everything that's going on in life for all of us, for everybody to come together for that. And then obviously, like, the way it turned out has been amazing too. But I know that that was probably it with him.

• 23:47Ryan Clark?

  Like that. He's a grown man. You know what I'm saying? The, the, the next few moves that he makes, you know, I may pop in or I may be a part of it in some way. I may give some advice or link him with somebody that could help him do something. But that's kind of like my last time to like, hey, I really need Pops to be here for this. Right. You know, and so if I could do that again, that would be a day I'd go back and do. Big Joe, East West Friday game, let's go, baby, let's go.

• 24:19Channing Crowder?

  I ain't done, Joe, we can slide to the club.

• 24:24Channing Crowder?

  Along that same path, it's kind of what you just said and what Freddie, you said earlier, like, when you sit back and think about it, it was, uh, Asia and Chaz's birthday weekend. See, Asia's June 10th, Chaz's June 11th, so they're birthday twins is what they say. And really just sitting there, like, sitting back, stopping, slowing down, like you talking about, where you just, you know, the mind's always going, what are we gonna do next? What we gotta do next? What we traveling with the pivot? What we doing this? Okay, well, let me make sure I got these games down so I can talk about it on radio or not. And I really remember sitting, we was down on the beach and sitting there and watching, you know, Asia, the kids, Ry, Owen, our friends came down, they came down with Boo, their,

• 25:06Channing Crowder?

  their daughter, and just sitting there and really like not thinking about anything other than just watching my family enjoy life. And it's not, it wasn't a big, you know, catastrophic thing, but I really remember, so I can go to the exact place on the beach at the hotel we was at, where I was just watching them, just enjoy life, smile, run. They had a kite. They was, you know, playing around, Chan had his fishing rods there. And it's just like, this is why we work so hard. This is why we grind so hard. This is why we do what we do, so that they can, you know, enjoy the, the fruits of our labor, to be honest. That weekend was one of the most enjoyable weekends I had in a long time. What you got, Freddie T?

• 25:49Fred Taylor?

  My mind is simple, man, graduation, man.

• 25:51Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, heck yeah.

• 25:53Fred Taylor?

  Going back to graduation day, really, man, I know he crazy, talking about, what you graduating for? Uh, but it was a real, it was a special day.

• 26:00Channing Crowder?

  Grandpa had that big ass mark on.

• 26:06Fred Taylor?

  No, it was, it was a day that I, I would certainly love to go back to, because it allowed me to just put things on perspective. I didn't have to do it. Like, for all the reasons that I did it, you know, um, just really, I had everybody there except my grandma. Right? And, um, but I can hear her saying, you know, we did it. You know, we did it round here, that's what they used to call me growing up, round here. The entire time I can feel her energy, you know, we were just sitting there, that, you know, and I made sure to let them know, do not say they wish she was here to see it. Right? I just wanted to feel it. And I felt it. And really, just to have, you know, have my kids there, uh, just to be an example for them,

• 26:51Fred Taylor?

  just to fulfill a promise, you know, uh, that, uh, I told my grandmother what I would do. I think it was one of the most special days of my entire life. It's been back in Gainesville, you know, playing everything back in Rewind. I'm there with these 20-year-old students graduating. They don't have a clue I am, most of them. And they're like, seeing the cameras follow me and all that, like, who are you? Can I get in your picture? Let's take a selfie, just because. But really, man, um, it was just, uh, just a, a great feeling that...

• 27:22Fred Taylor?

  I hadn't felt in a while and uh one of the best days of my life. So I can go back and relive that one. It'd be dope.

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• 28:00Ryan Clark?

  You know, now that you graduated, you can actually be a college head coach.

• 28:06Fred Taylor?

  You know what? And I I reserve that. That's why I decided to go ahead and just put that on the books. For sure.

• 28:12Ryan Clark?

  Because like if you get your degree, you can go back and coach.

• 28:14Fred Taylor?

  That was another piece.

• 28:15Ryan Clark?

  Mike Vick, Deshaun Jackson.

• 28:17Channing Crowder?

  I seen that.

• 28:18Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you gonna go coach, Chad?

• 28:20Channing Crowder?

  No, I ain't coaching. I can't deal with no high schoolers. I know I can't deal with no college dudes. But it's it's it's cool. Did Deion start that is what my whole mind went to with Vic. That Deion started something. Deion even brought Sap in because we was up in um we were in Boulder.

• 28:32Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 28:33Channing Crowder?

  Sap's there and I'm I'm chopping up with Sap. Sap said he loves it. He loves to to to put back, you know, put his knowledge and put his, you know, not just on the field, but off the field as well.

• 28:42Ryan Clark?

  And his energy too, man.

• 28:43Channing Crowder?

  These kids need a, I don't say a father figure, they need a strong man in their life.

• 28:48Fred Taylor?

  Inspiration.

• 28:48Channing Crowder?

  Inspiration in their life. So when I saw Vic, I was like, okay, because Vic, people that don't know Vic, you know, we live, we live 10 minutes from each other. And Vic is a very inspirational but well thought out dude. And so I'm interested to see what Vic does. D Jack, I'm interested to see what he does. I don't know him like that. But I do believe that the head coaching opportunities these guys have are more of a mentorship role. They know football, but I love that these kids will, and I'll be honest, I played for runs.

• 29:23Channing Crowder?

  I would listen to Deion over Ron Zook. I would listen to Sap. I'd listen to Vic over Ron Zook because you look like me. You've been through what I want to go through. So I think that, I think that these guys getting into coaching is great for them. I can't do it. I'm gonna go to Norfolk though. I'm gonna go full with Vic. I'll be at the first game Vic coaching. Vic, I already talked to you. But I do think it's great for the kids that came from where they came from. And they'll really impact those children's lives.

• 29:49Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, I think it's great for, um, one, the kids. I think both those guys are an inspiration and hope that they, they, they go there with the intent of being serious, you know, and, and, and taking the same Deion approach and, and just fostering a, a safe space, a positive space where you can be a father figure and, and try and uplift these men to show them how to maneuver through life more than wins and losses on the football field. I hope that's where they take it. I'm excited for both of them. And I saw a few comments there on social media. This is not a good look and God, they're just gonna get successful, win and leave.

• 30:33Fred Taylor?

  We don't know that, right? But let's, let's start with, these are two men that came across opportunities and they want to give back. Uh, and hopefully it's in the form of, uh, just all positivity. The whole entire coaching landscape has changed. It's become more competitive, but I hope that they're able to synchronize all of their resources and, um, channel all of that back to HBCUs that they've accepted these roles and can get some funding, can get a lot of the NIL money and can get some of those same players that were on their caliber to come to those colleges and hopefully they can

• 31:18Fred Taylor?

  turn those programs around.

• 31:19Channing Crowder?

  But Prime is the blueprint, right?

• 31:21Fred Taylor?

  Prime is definitely the blueprint, but not to the extent of those guys need to go there and plant themselves for a season or two and then make that leap. Now, if that's what they want to do, that's totally fine, right? And you just follow your heart, follow your passion and which is what Deion did and people questioned it. And, and it just, for me, it's just shine the light on all of it. HBCUs.

• 31:50Fred Taylor?

  Deion as a person, and he's been steady. He's never, he hadn't flinched. So, I, I love Mike's character. I love what he's about. I believe he's gonna go be successful. It's always about building, you know, a staff around you. Cause you can't do it on your own. And the same thing with D Jack. And I guess at the end of it all, I wish them both well.

• 32:11Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I think, I think the first thing is, I think it's really cool that they get these opportunities at HBCUs, both Norfolk State with Michael Vick, Delaware State with DeSean Jackson. And, you know, we've seen this, Eddie George down at Tennessee State. We saw this with Deion at Jackson State. And I think the hardest part is because of our communities and our cultures, these people are held to different standards and responsibilities than white head coaches. Right? If a white head coach goes to a smaller predominantly white institution,

• 32:52Ryan Clark?

  everyone's okay when they win and then leave that institution for a power five school. Right? Because it's the understanding that they wanna come to these places individually. They want to do extremely well so they can ascend up the college ranks or up the coaching ranks. And they wanna do well as a collective because that helps the school. It brings in more money, brings in better recruits, helps education. And I think that's what Deion did at Jackson State. Deion went there and showed, whether it's like major sponsors or important executives or big time boosters, that putting money into HBCUs can be profitable and can be successful. And so now TC Taylor, he comes along after Deion and they win the celebration ball.

• 33:37Ryan Clark?

  Right? They're continuing success. That's the point. And that's the, that's the job of the university, of the athletic directors that wants a Deion comes and lays a blueprint for success. How do we continue that? Jackson State has done that. Even if Michael Vick goes to Norfolk State and he does do extremely well and leave, then he should leave it in a better position than when he came. And now that next coach can take that blueprint and try his best to continue to win. I think the other standard that they're held to that other coaches aren't is the mentorship. Standard, right? Which comes along with the professionalism standard to me. The accountability, the responsibility.

• 34:20Ryan Clark?

  Because when Deion went to Jackson State, he was representing the Michael Vicks. He was representing the DeShawn Jackson. He was showing the world that this is something that can work. You can take a man, but Deion coached at Truth, right? Academy in Dallas, but you could take a man who's never been a college head coach, not make him go through all the ranks and he could be successful as a head coach. He could figure that out. Now you're gonna do it with Mike. Now you're gonna do it with DeShawn. They gotta uphold that standard, right? They have a responsibility to the three of us. They have a responsibility to themselves, to all the former players who may one day want this opportunity to be professional, right? We saw it with Ed Reed, how that didn't work out. That reflects not only on Ed, as much as I love him,

• 35:04Ryan Clark?

  but on any other former player that wants to do that. And so to me, I do want these men to succeed, not only for themselves and for those young men, but for the next former player who spent 20 years, right? Or 15 years doing what we do. And so now they're the Bill Belichick's sons of the world. They're the Shanahan's sons of the world. They're the Grudens and the McVeighs and all these people who get a head start in coaching because they knew someone or they were connected to someone that got them in on ground level when we were out making plays. And so I think that this is great that they now have these opportunities. This is great for these HBCUs. And the success of these hirings is extremely important for the future of how these things go.

• 35:49Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, real quick. It reminded me of, you know, you talking about the, your take on First Take a couple of days ago. He's talking about the evolution of the quarterback position. Where you talked about Cunningham to Vic, to Cam, to LJ, Lamar Jackson. And, you know, and when he broke that record. I believe that. Much like the quarterback position when it was just a standing pocket, you know, dominated by white guys, white quarterbacks. It's coaching the same thing. You know, head coaching positions have always been mostly white head coaches. And really just for these guys to take a shot and say, all right,

• 36:31Fred Taylor?

  regardless of how it ends up, hopefully we can inspire, you know, someone that looks like us to want to go out there and lead a team and lead young men. So, man, I wish them boys well, man. College football is exciting. You know, HBCU, bring it back to what it was and hopefully they can do good.

• 36:55Channing Crowder?

  I gotta bring it up with, and there's Aaron Glenns, there's Al Harris. Al was a monster for Green Bay. Al in coaching, they talking about him getting an opportunity to be in DC now. But, and he's a Florida guy too, so I'm not just picking on nobody. He was with our school. Go do some research on Urban Meyer. What he did with Zach Smith. He covered up his stuff and we saw Urban in his restaurant. You can go look at the video of what Urban was doing. Urban has a very high-end job right now. They never bring up, what's it called? The Gator documentary where Urban was there, where them boys was going crazy. Aaron Hernandez and all, like, go watch it.

• 37:40Channing Crowder?

  Why do they never bring that up when Urban gets jobs? But they still want to talk about Vic with these dogs. That pissed me off when he got this opportunity, knowing Mike personally. Why do they always want to bring that up? But they don't want to bring up-

• 37:56Ryan Clark?

  Because we don't make the news.

• 37:57Channing Crowder?

  It pissed me off, I'm not gonna lie.

• 37:59Ryan Clark?

  No, I agree. I think it's absolutely bull crap. I think you'd want it to say that dogs, they treat dogs like better or dogs are more important than humans, but that's not what it's about. It's about who was actually involved in the incident with the dog. It's about what they look like. It's about where they come from. And people will always try to deny that. And instead of having that sort of dialogue with you, to be like, how can Urban Meyer continuously show that he's a below-level functioning human?

• 38:37Ryan Clark?

  But still be in charge of leading men, still be in charge of leading young men, still sit on TV and be able to speak about how a head coach or player should morally approach life when he's done this. Why don't we bring that up? Yet for Michael Vick, even though it wasn't or there weren't humans harmed, they continuously bring up his worst moment. They continuously bring up his worst days. Instead of saying, okay, this is a man that has grown from that, and not only has he grown from that, he's allowed the communities to grow from that. Let's allow him to live life moving forward. But instead of having that conversation with you, they'll call you a race baiter.

• 39:20Ryan Clark?

  Or they'll say why you have to bring race into it, and it's because in situations like this, it actually factors in.

• 39:28Channing Crowder?

  And they don't put anything on Vick. Amazing husband, two decades.

• 39:33Ryan Clark?

  Father.

• 39:34Channing Crowder?

  Father of a bunch of great kids. Vick, I saw Vick the other day, drove past with little Mike, out there working on little Mike, because little Mike plays quarterback now, out there working with his son. Nobody wants to talk about that. You talk about it, it made me think about it with social media. Mike got the job at Norfolk State. Oh, hey, this dog, this dog. That was a long time ago, and Mike has regretted it. Mike has spoken about it. Mike said he shouldn't be a part of it. It wasn't him. If you really watch the documentary, you see that he wasn't at that house a lot of the times when those things were going on. But that's, they want to bring up his worst point, his lowest time in life. Every time somebody says this man's name, I just, as a personal friend, that upset me when he got this job.

• 40:16Fred Taylor?

  A certain group of people gonna find a way to keep, you know, a certain group of people down.

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• 40:52Ryan Clark?

  Speaking of that, right, like, let's say Michael Vick does a great job at Norfolk State, and he gets the Virginia Tech job at some point. Or DeSean Jackson does a great job, and he gets the Cal job at some point. Not saying that those guys should go there to leave, just saying if they ever do, they could get into the 12-team college football playoff. Now, I want to ask you, Freddie T., Florida guy, you a Florida guy, I'm an LSU guy. There's been a lot of talk about the way this whole 12-team playoff has been put together, how it's going down. Freddie T., what are your thoughts on it, whether it makes the playoff better? Whether you feel like you get the right teams, they got the right teams? What do you think about it?

• 41:36Fred Taylor?

  I think we all pull up for the NCAA tournament, right? And when it gets down to the semis and the final, uh, lead eight, final four, all of that, we're all locked in. You know, any other time, it's just games, right? And most times, we like, who's in this bowl? Who's in this bowl? I think, like, U M., for example, is in the Pop-Tart Bowl.

• 41:57Ryan Clark?

  I love Pop-Tarts.

• 41:59Fred Taylor?

  I like Pop-Tarts, but...

• 42:01Channing Crowder?

  Y'all eat Pop-Tarts?

• 42:02Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 42:03Fred Taylor?

  I mean, I used to eat them. I used to eat them.

• 42:06Ryan Clark?

  The packet's blue now. You get it from the airport.

• 42:09Fred Taylor?

  You know, he's a strange kid. He's a strange kid.

• 42:13Ryan Clark?

  He gonna get diabetes or what he about to do.

• 42:14Fred Taylor?

  But, you know, what I'm trying to say is, we hear all these different bowls, right? And you don't always know who's in them unless you're a fan of that, of that team. But with the, the college playoffs, it is what it says it is. It's the playoffs. You don't think about the bowl anymore, right? You think about the matchups. And, uh, for example, you know, Ryan Wood nephew, Jordan, and then the Bulldogs is there. You're like, alright, that, that, that's a matchup. And then here, Tennessee, Ohio State, just looking at all these games, just looking at this bracket, it, it's much better for college football. And at this time of the year, around the holidays, going into the new year,

• 42:56Fred Taylor?

  before, we had to wait, like, January 1st or 2nd. You get one game. Now, this playoffs, you got 12 teams playing.

• 43:06Fred Taylor?

  And they kind of process of elimination. We got a few more weeks of college football, man. So I'm excited. I'm gonna be real interested to see how these these games pan out. I'm looking forward to that Georgia Notre Dame matchup. Don't care a whole lot about the Penn State Boise. But my cousin is the running backs coach and offense coordinator. Assistant head coach at Penn State, so I'm rooting for them. I like Oregon, Ohio State is crazy. Sarkisian, I gotta root for Sark there, man. So it's crazy. So Notre Dame, Texas, I'm rooting for y'all, boys. Penn State for sure, because of my cousin. Ohio State, Oregon, I don't know, man.

• 43:49Fred Taylor?

  Oregon been number one for a while. Maybe Oregon.

• 43:53Channing Crowder?

  I love it. And keep it at 12. Don't take it to 18. Don't do no damn 64.

• 43:59Fred Taylor?

  I'm with you.

• 43:59Channing Crowder?

  Keep it at 12. When it was four, number five complained. It was 12. 13. Alabama started complaining. Keep it at 12. This is beautiful. And even the thing with like Boise State and Indiana. I knew, and I won a lot of money, we talking about gambling. I knew Indiana was gonna get drugged. We talked about it off air. I was like, ain't anybody get drugged. But let those smaller schools or off conferences, you wanna call them. And we're all SEC guys. Do I think Alabama could have played Notre Dame a little better? I do believe it. But if you wanna do BCS, remember when the computer used to pick?

• 44:35Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 44:35Channing Crowder?

  Do you wanna do that? Or you wanna have people pick it?

• 44:37Fred Taylor?

  That's a headache.

• 44:38Channing Crowder?

  You know what I'm saying? I want people to pick it. And if they need to put in automatic bids on these conferences, put them in. But it's 12. It's eight more chances of somebody to go ahead and shock the world. Other than four, this is perfect. Leave it at 12. Don't let all these damn sorry teams. And SEC bias is real. We beat the hell out of each other. We've done it every year. We did it with BCS. We did it with all the all the conferences, whatever. There's gonna be five or six teams out of the SEC every year. That's gonna fight to have a chance to make it in the 12. And y'all have to eat it. Because the SEC has won 15 of the last 18 national championships. It is what it is. Blue and yellow shield.

• 45:19Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, so I think, and so like honestly, for, for me, this is a massive win for college football. Yeah. Bringing the college football playoff to 12 was genius. When's the last time, on December 20th and 21st, we sat around watching college football excited? Nobody, none of the starters in the transfer portal. None of the starters declared already for the NFL. We had gotten to a point where folks wasn't playing in bowl games at all. You knew for at least four games, four games were gonna be played with the best of the best that those schools had to offer.

• 46:00Ryan Clark?

  And they were gonna be playing, trying to win because their national championship hopes were at stake. We haven't had that in a long time. Now, think about this, the Fiesta Bowl, right? Which we used to fight to be a part of, the Rose Bowl, the Sugar Bowl. All of these big time bowls are again, what they're supposed to be. Right. We gonna be tap, we, we used to tap in on January 1st. You knew you would sit down in the morning and it'll start at one bowl game and you were gonna finish at the last one at the Rose Bowl because all those teams had the best players in the country. But that changed. Last year, I forget what bowl it was, but maybe it was the Peach Bowl with Georgia and Florida State. Florida State had nobody, right?

• 46:44Ryan Clark?

  And you had to go watch Georgia just drum them because Florida State didn't play. That's not gonna happen this year on January 1st. And then Freddie T, like you said, we still get the best four teams who played to be there, who proved themselves to be there to play the college football championship. Like, that's exactly what you want. And I get it, if you're the SCC, you know you're gonna get at least three teams every year. Right. You might get four depending on what's happening in these other conferences. So you're gonna get two lost teams. Hell, a two-loss team is the number two team in the entire college football playoff. And so I think if you're the SCC, don't lose three. If you're Bama, don't go lose to Vandy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

• 47:27Ryan Clark?

  If you're South Carolina, don't lose to LSU, who wasn't no good this year. And so I think it's, it's just an awesome deal to have. And for me, I'm just gonna be honest, like, my kid is coming to New Orleans to play against the Georgia Bulldogs. You know what I'm saying, like, I grew up an SEC child that loved Notre Dame because I watched them play every single Saturday. You know, we talked earlier about driving him to school and me being anxious and thinking to myself, like, will he fit in? Will he get the true experience of being a Notre Dame man? Will they put him at the forefront of this team that already has these stars that committed to Notre Dame as high schoolers?

• 48:12Ryan Clark?

  And they did all of that. And not only did they do all that, he's now going back to New Orleans to play, to me, the flagship football university in the country right now, in Kirby Smart and the University of Georgia. Man, like, we're gonna pack it out, we're going to enjoy it, we're going to celebrate him. But without the college football playoff, if it was just four teams, he might not have this opportunity, but he's won and his friends and his teammates have won their way to this. And you go, we think back to sitting with Marcus Freeman before last season and having these conversations, and here we are.

• 48:55Fred Taylor?

  All of those are little mini national championship games. You know what I'm saying? When you really look at it, think about Notre Dame, Georgia. That's a national championship matchup. Oregon, Ohio State. Any other year, that's a national championship match. Even with Texas, the way Sark brought them boys back, man, they love their football down there. College football has evolved in such that people are questioning whether it's professional sports now.

• 49:24Ryan Clark?

  It's semi-pro for sure.

• 49:25Fred Taylor?

  It is. Well, but when you think of these numbers, hold up. And just in this playoffs alone, not what the NIL is doing, but what they're paying these colleges, and then they're getting on the revenue sharing next year. In this playoff alone, each of the 12 teams are getting $4 million. And then in the next round, the eight, they're getting $4 million. And then for each of the four teams in the semis are getting $6 million. Then the national championship game, the two teams are gonna get six. And every round, the round from 12 to 2, each college is getting $3 million in expenses paid per round.

• 50:04Ryan Clark?

  And that still ain't enough.

• 50:06Channing Crowder?

  It is semi-pro. It's the NFL. Think about this. There's a playoff bracket and the kids are getting paid. It's semi-pro. It is the structure of the NFL. Let's get these teams together. They'll have a buy on all four sides. We're gonna come together and we're gonna play to find the best. It's semi-pro. It should have been like that when you played 1,400 years ago. When you played and when I played, it should have been like that.

• 50:30Fred Taylor?

  I knew that was coming.

• 50:31Channing Crowder?

  They have got it right, Fred. They could have paid you in shillings or something.

• 50:35Fred Taylor?

  No, no, that's what I'm saying. They would have been. So, so my son called me, my son called me talking about, "Pop, when the cutoff for the retro money?" Right? I was like, "Man, that ain't 98." I know it's way after that.

• 50:50Channing Crowder?

  They want you to get reparations.

• 50:51Fred Taylor?

  Man, I want all mine.

• 50:53Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, they like, hey, they're like, "Pops, they gotta give you something."

• 50:58Fred Taylor?

  I want all of mine.

• 51:00Channing Crowder?

  They gonna pay, they gonna pay Fred in gold bars. You know what I'm saying?

• 51:03Fred Taylor?

  Hold on, hold on.

• 51:04Channing Crowder?

  They gonna pay him booty, pirate booty.

• 51:07Fred Taylor?

  Y'all pivoting. We don't want to pivot to the past. How about let's pivot to the future?

• 51:12Channing Crowder?

  Okay.

• 51:13Fred Taylor?

  I want to hear about you guys's 2025 and, and, and that pivot.

• 51:18Ryan Clark?

  You see, I like that. Let's not go New Year's resolution. Let's go pivot. Uh, that's cool. I think I need to learn to process when I feel like people tried to play me differently. I was having this conversation. I was riding with Yonk and we were talking about it. And she said, you know, and I was just like, it was the Aaron Rodgers thing, actually. And the first day, like when he went on Pat the second time and said something. I filmed something that day and I mentioned Pat and not in a negative way in any way, but I didn't want me as Pat spoke. And as a man, I feel like if we spoke, I shouldn't be putting your name in something.

• 52:01Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 52:01Ryan Clark?

  To where it could even be misconstrued. So I pulled back from it and I said, "I'm not going to do it at all." And I couldn't sleep, like I could not go to sleep. Cause I felt like he tried me. Right, and in trying me, I felt like, how do I not get resolution? Right, like I, I know, we can't fight. You know, and he doesn't wanna fight, like that's not what this is. He wants to be able to say what he wants to say, whether it's disrespectful to me or not, because that's what's on his heart and that's what he feels like he needs to get out. But my thought process is, why do I have to be the one to process this like an adult?

• 52:43Ryan Clark?

  Right, why do I have to be the take the high road guy? You know what I'm saying, like, why should I be better? Should, should I be better because then it makes me seem smarter, more evolved, more mature, when I really don't care about that. Right, or do I take the high road so now I'm not saying something disrespectful, or I'm not challenging a person who didn't process challenging me or disrespecting me in that way? And I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to learn, and I need to learn, how to do things or how to deal with things in a way

• 53:28Ryan Clark?

  where I don't always feel like I gotta get my lick back. Or, or process it enough to where I'm like, no, I deserve my shot. Why should people get to do something with me and impact me and go on and live their lives like they didn't? Why should I have a level of consideration for a human who has no level of consideration for me? And what I do know is, I don't want to

• 54:01Ryan Clark?

  I don't want to stay awake because I feel like you played me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember one of like the last fights I got into as an adult. I was walking in, a dude tried me. I had more to lose than him. And I said to myself, it's not smart to fight him. And I remember me and my boy went in the bar. And I was there for like 30 minutes and it ate at me for 30 minutes. And I had to go back outside to fight him. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just had to because I felt like he was just going to live life and be like, I tried him and I played him and he never did nothing. And I was going to be processing this for five months. And so like, that's what I'm, I need to work on in 2025 is learning how to like process those emotions in a way where whatever the outcome is, I'm comfortable with that.

• 54:47Channing Crowder?

  I think it's kind of similar to yours, but different where it sounds kind of butt wipe-ish.

• 54:54Ryan Clark?

  Like, we, you know, we be getting flagged, so he trying not to curse.

• 54:57Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, it sounds kind of.

• 54:58Ryan Clark?

  And I like butt wipes like dude wipes.

• 55:01Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, no, dude wipes, that sounds kind of, I guess arrogant, but. I've found out, especially through this. So through football, through all the stuff, all the stuff that, that, that I've done. The pivot has taken my fame to a, a level internationally. Just in Jamaica, people walking to me in Jamaica every time I get out the car. And I really try to make their day. Like, I try to give them our five, 10 minutes of conversation and talking and interacting. Oh, what's your granddaughter's name? I don't care what that little girl's name is. But I want to make the grandma feel good about it. So I just go overboard and try to be nice.

• 55:42Channing Crowder?

  And I, this, this is the, this is the butt wipe side. I think I'm getting tired of it. I'm getting tired of. Overly being the happiest dude in the room, like I always say. And I'm still gonna play around and joke around, I'll mess with you in certain situations. But if I'm late to the airport, man, to hell with your granddaughter. No, no, I'm not taking a picture with little Cynthia. I gotta go. I'm outta here, goddammit, I'm gone. Like, and I'm just feeling myself do it. So, I'm not saying that's like a New Year's resolution, but honestly, I think I'm moving more. I'm pivoting in that direction where I need to, you know, if you wanna say,

• 56:25Channing Crowder?

  figure out the time, or, you know, respect my time more than I have. But I'm feeling myself slowly just kinda work away from it. And that's gonna be my, I think that's gonna be my pivot. And I'm sorry, if I have time, I'ma talk to you. If I don't, like, I gotta go, man. I got kids, I got a wife, I got, I got, I got stuff to do.

• 56:44Ryan Clark?

  No, I, I totally feel that. And I think, like, for me, we should always be gracious because it's a blessing. You know, I'd always tell people, when they ask me if it makes me mad, I'm like, no. I was like, I could do a job where nobody cared. I think I'm blessed to do a job that people care about. But also, I don't wanna debate you. I don't wanna talk about your fantasy football team. I will say, I do, I'll say all the hellos you want. I'll say, you know, God bless you, happy holidays, I'll take pictures. But we don't have to have a full conversation, it's okay.

• 57:21Channing Crowder?

  Would you retire if you're Tua? I don't know, leave me alone, man, I'm hungry. I'm hungry, man, you see me standing in that damn Chipotle line. I don't wanna talk about Tua's health right now.

• 57:33Fred Taylor?

  Well, I, I think with that, with you, Chan, obviously, it comes, it comes with the territory. Because if you weren't who you are, one, and if you weren't good at what you do, then nobody would care. Nobody wanna talk to you. If you gave crazy, stupid takes, nobody wanna talk to you or ask you about it. They're in the moment, and they wanna challenge you to, um...

• 57:56Fred Taylor?

  I guess regurgitating that. You know, they want to hear it again, but hear it how you deliver it. And you the same thing. People want to run up on you and have a good time with you. They want you to be what they see on this show all the time.

• 58:10Ryan Clark?

  They want their shot though, Freddie. If they want their shot, I gotta give them their shot every time?

• 58:13Fred Taylor?

  You don't have to. They have to understand to respect your space in that moment. But you also have to understand that if you weren't good at what you do, if you weren't the one, one of the co-hosts of the pivot that made this show what it is, then nobody would care.

• 58:31Ryan Clark?

  So why you walk around? Why when we in airport, you got your hat down and your hoodie on and all this stuff with the tater on?

• 58:37Fred Taylor?

  This is, this is how I move. And then I have a little bit more patience than you. We see the evolution of forty-year-old Chaney. You in your forties now, your temperament is changing.

• 58:47Ryan Clark?

  You also have to realize this though. People know Freddie T don't talk a lot anyway, so they're not expecting a lot of words.

• 58:52Fred Taylor?

  Oh, okay. And they are.

• 58:53Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like Freddie T with Chan, they gonna expect the entire comedy show, right? With me, they think I'm gonna look at them like they Stephen A. And with you, it's like, oh, he's so mysterious and cool. He goes, how you doing, brother? You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, ma'am, pleasure to meet you. And then now they run, oh, my girl, girl, I saw Fred. I saw Fred, girl.

• 59:19Fred Taylor?

  That's crazy. That actually happened in airport today, which is crazy. See, but me, I, I, I, um, I'm grateful for it. You know, I'm appreciative of it. People ask me all the time, I do signings, photo shoots, whatever. Like, how do you handle this? Like, if I was a scrub, it ain't happening. So that, I try to put things in perspective. And I think for me, my pivot into twenty-five is just that. You know, making sure I, um... Put things in perspective a bit more. You know, identifying what success looks like on my own term. You know, staying in the moment, but more so just empowering everybody else around me.

• 1:00:01Fred Taylor?

  You know, saying, all right, this is, this is me, but I want to help you. You know, even through the show, people in person, that don't mean just you got a free pass to run up on me. But I do want to encourage everybody going forward because I believe I've lived a very good life. Right? As you probably said in my 2,000 years on the planet. But in my 48 years, you know, on this earth. I mean, I had my ups and downs, same share, go through stuff people go through. But I lived a really good life and I want to continue to try and give back. Right? So perspective is, is my pivot for 2025.

• 1:00:45Fred Taylor?

  Understanding that I have been successful in my own right as I see it. But there's always another step. And I think this show, we gonna take it to a whole nother level. Y'all watch out for it. Trust me, we coming.

• 1:01:01Ryan Clark?

  Last thing, as we go into the new year. Advice you'd like to give somebody from the pivot to them, each host?

• 1:01:12Fred Taylor?

  Dictate your own success. You know, what that looks like for you. But always stay in the moment. We're gonna have our ups and downs. You got a challenger mental. People try and allow outside factors to influence their moves. Social media, for example. We had, when we had Thimbo on the show, he was like, yeah, social media, I'll dive in and it, it makes me feel this way or that way. Screw all of that. You know, take ownership of your life. Don't let the outside factors influence your decision making. Realize that you got time. Yeah, I think that's simple. You got time. Don't, don't let the world dictate how you feel about you.

• 1:01:55Ryan Clark?

  Chan?

• 1:01:56Channing Crowder?

  So Freddie Conestell, I was gonna say, you know, I've said it before, but put a value on your evaluators. Cause people just get caught up in that. Other people, like really look at the person telling you who you are. And see if they're worth you listening to their opinion of you. And also something else I've been telling, you know, especially younger people, look at your, look at your screen time.

• 1:02:21Channing Crowder?

  Look at your screen time. I, I, I pointed at you when I said, young, even though you got me. Look at, go on your phone, I don't know what settings it is, and just look at your screen time. Cause those are times that, you know, just evaluate every 24 hours in a day, how long you're sitting there staring at your phone. Just, just look at that.

• 1:02:40Ryan Clark?

  That's real.

• 1:02:41Channing Crowder?

  And you can go off of that. See, if you think you could utilize that time in a, in a better manner, that's my advice.

• 1:02:48Ryan Clark?

  That was actually excellent. That was advice for me. Thank you. No, that's real. That, that, that was advice for me. This year was actually harder for me, I think, than I let on. And so like the, the one thing I'd say is, speak to yourself nicely. Don't tell yourself that you aren't worthy. Don't tell yourself that you're not pretty enough, or you're not smart enough, or you're too fat, or you don't deserve it. I think so many times we get bogged down in our negative self-talk because it protects us from what other people might say. You are worthy. You do deserve everything that you work for.

• 1:03:33Ryan Clark?

  You are pretty enough. You are smart enough. You are strong enough, if you want to be. And I think the other piece of that, sort of the evaluate or put a value on your evaluators is, like, fuck what other people say. The people who told you you weren't nothing, you will never be nothing, they don't get to dictate who you are. The people that told you you can't accomplish certain things, they don't get to control how much effort you put into it. The questions or the amount of times

• 1:04:18Ryan Clark?

  people have tried to push you away from your dreams, don't allow that to set you back. Continue to work. Continue to believe that you're worth it. Continue to believe that you deserve it. And wake up in the morning and tell it to yourself. Like, look yourself in the eyes and say that I am enough. Look yourself in the eyes and say that I deserve all the things that God has planned for me. Because if we don't actually believe it, then how else can we achieve it? And so, I think that's it. That is the route on the pivot for 2024. 25, your year, ain't it?

• 1:05:02Ryan Clark?

  25, 25. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man. Yeah. By the way, by the way, I just want y'all to see something. Just so they know, hey, right here, read that chant. What does that say?

• 1:05:16Channing Crowder?

  Just because I wasn't picked, doesn't mean I'm not chosen, undrafted.

• 1:05:23Ryan Clark?

  That's how we roll in 2025. You know I can't read that good. You're a fuck. Hey, I'm a fuck.

• 1:05:31Ryan Clark?

  29-year-old. That's like when them little kids, when they used to ask you in class, you read. Ah, he's always nut up.

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