The Sona and Matt of New Zealand

Conan chats with Glenn in Auckland, NZ about working a morning radio show and to offer advice on lovingly evicting adult children from the house. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply

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• 1:12Conan O'Brien?

  Hi Glenn, and welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan.

• 1:15Speaker 04

  Hi!

• 1:16Conan O'Brien?

  How are you?

• 1:17Speaker 04

  It's Brian calling from Auckland in New Zealand. Hi.

• 1:20Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, wow, Auckland, New Zealand.

• 1:21Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:22Conan O'Brien?

  Help me, which part of New Zealand is that? I'm trying to think. Are you on the north or the south? Where is Auckland?

• 1:28Speaker 04

  So it's the largest city in New Zealand, and it's in the North Island. So about, I guess, two-thirds, four-fifths of the way up, something like that, of the North Island.

• 1:39Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, well, now I'm completely confused. I've never been to New Zealand before, but I've always wanted to go. The people I meet from New Zealand are fantastic, and of course, I've seen, of course, many images of New Zealand, and it looks beautiful. I just haven't experienced it myself, so I'm anxious to see it one day.

• 1:59Speaker 04

  Right, well Auckland is called, is known as the City of Sails because, you know, we have, we have a beautiful, we're surrounded by a beautiful harbour. We have a harbour bridge that's kind of like a, it's like a little version of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

• 2:12Conan O'Brien?

  Sails.

• 2:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, the reason, the reason that you've only ever met nice New Zealanders is because we send all the horrible ones to Australia.

• 2:20Conan O'Brien?

  Now, I've been to New, uh, to Australia. I've been there several times.

• 2:24Speaker 04

  So you know what I'm talking about, right?

• 2:25Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, God, just filled with horrible New Zealanders.

• 2:31Conan O'Brien?

  Let's, uh, let's talk, Glenn. Tell me a little bit about yourself. You seem, I'm guessing you work in radio, because you seem to have a professional setup there, and you seem very comfortable on mic. Is that a correct assumption?

• 2:43Speaker 04

  Uh, yes, that is a correct assumption. So, yeah, I've literally just, um, come off here. That's not my show.

• 2:48Conan O'Brien?

  I see.

• 2:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. I'm kind of like the, the, the Matt Andor sona of the show. So I just chip in when...

• 2:54Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, so you're expendable.

• 2:55Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 2:56Speaker 06

  A real heart in your show.

• 2:58Speaker 05

  The linchpin.

• 2:58Conan O'Brien?

  You could go at any time and...

• 3:00Speaker 05

  The couldn't do without.

• 3:01Conan O'Brien?

  People wouldn't care. Um, listen, please, those are just jokes. I love you guys. And of course, you're an essential part of this stew. Little lentils. And I am the large piece of delicious beef.

• 3:12Speaker 05

  That's for sure. That is for sure.

• 3:14Conan O'Brien?

  Glenn, so you work on a radio show. Do you get recognized at all when you walk around?

• 3:20Speaker 04

  Uh, only if I talk, because people don't really know what I look like. They've only ever heard me. Uh, so, uh, yeah. They're usually pretty disappointed when they see what I look like.

• 3:32Conan O'Brien?

  That is not true, Glenn.

• 3:33Speaker 06

  No.

• 3:34Conan O'Brien?

  You're a very good-looking gentleman. And, and so people must get excited, say, when you order a pizza over the phone. They must say, oh, my God, is this Glenn Hart asking for New Zealand's finest pizza?

• 3:44Speaker 04

  Uh, I can't say that's happened to me, but I did once when I was on a plane, uh, you know, and, you know, everybody's doing the overhead baggage, uh, situation, you know, that kind of pre-flight jostle around. And somebody, yeah, at that point said, hey, are you Glenn off, off, off the radio? And, you know, so then I had that moment of, oh, no, am I about to be stuck sitting next to somebody who is a big fan of the show? That could go either way. Uh, but luckily, New Zealanders are pretty shy. And, uh, yeah, uh, he left me alone.

• 4:12Conan O'Brien?

  Wait, are you saying, are you saying you didn't want to sit next to a big fan? That's my favorite thing. I call ahead to the airline, and I say, can you find out who knows Conan O'Brien, and can you seat them next to me? And then can we talk about my career arc?

• 4:28Speaker 05

  Well, this is, this is a New Zealand...

• 4:29Speaker 04

  Thing, right? So, uh, you know, US, you know, you guys love to put people on a pedestal. You love to be the person on a pedestal.

• 4:37Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yes.

• 4:37Speaker 04

  In New Zealand, you know, in New Zealand, the tall poppy syndrome is, you know, is live and large.

• 4:42Conan O'Brien?

  I see.

• 4:43Speaker 04

  And so, yeah, if any, once anybody gets too successful, you know, then, uh, it's, it's, it's up to the rest of us to pull them down to our level.

• 4:51Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, I understand.

• 4:52Speaker 04

  We all, we all think we could be the prime minister if we just gave it a go, for example.

• 4:57Conan O'Brien?

  I mean, I think we all feel that way.

• 4:58Speaker 05

  That's a very American.

• 4:59Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, in the United States, we all feel that way these days. Um, Glenn, tell me a little bit about your life. I want to get to know Glenn Hart from Auckland, New Zealand. What's going on in your life?

• 5:10Speaker 04

  Well, so, uh, because I work in breakfast radio, uh, I have to arrive here at the station about three forty-five AM.

• 5:17Speaker 06

  Nope.

• 5:18Speaker 04

  So that, that means my alarm goes off at two fifty-two.

• 5:22Speaker 06

  Hard pass.

• 5:23Conan O'Brien?

  Oh my god.

• 5:24Speaker 04

  So, so, so I know you don't want a job of breakfast radio?

• 5:26Speaker 06

  No, I'm good. I'll pass.

• 5:27Speaker 05

  She just threw up on the floor.

• 5:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Sona's working hours in her contract are one in the afternoon to one thirty in the afternoon. And then we have to pay for her Uber to and fro.

• 5:39Speaker 04

  That sounds like a big day.

• 5:40Conan O'Brien?

  So you get up at close to two o'clock in the morning. What time do you go to bed?

• 5:44Speaker 04

  Uh, as soon as I can. Uh, yeah, all I ever want to do is be asleep. Uh, yeah, so generally about quarter past eight.

• 5:51Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 5:52Speaker 04

  Um, I, I try and, and get a little nap in in the afternoon after lunch.

• 5:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 5:58Speaker 04

  Uh, depending on, you know, what's going on in my life, because otherwise by, yeah, about six PM, I'm not making any sense at all.

• 6:04Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, you haven't made a lick of sense since you got on with us.

• 6:07Speaker 04

  No, well, it could be the accent.

• 6:08Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, and you're bleeding from the mouth. Um, just a little word to the wise. Okay, so you've got crazy hours. Do you have a family?

• 6:15Speaker 04

  Yep. So, um, I, I have a, a, a wife and, uh, two, uh, daughters, uh, grown up daughters. Um, they did both actually leave and go off to university and then both came back again. And so.

• 6:30Conan O'Brien?

  How do you, how do you feel about that, Glenn?

• 6:32Speaker 05

  I think we know.

• 6:34Conan O'Brien?

  How do you, how do you feel about that, Glenn?

• 6:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I think Matt picked up on the little tone there as I said about the. But we had about, there was about a six week period when my, when my wife and I were uh empty nesters and you know, we just sat around frequently, just looking at each other going, saying things like, "Hey, what do you want for dinner?" And we'd say, "Oh, I don't know, just a toasted sandwich would be fine, sure." And everything was nice and casual. You're not cooking for anybody. You're not, you know, driving people around to places. And then, you know, that six weeks went by and then it all went out the window again.

• 7:06Conan O'Brien?

  Wait, so you had six weeks of being empty nesters, then they're back?

• 7:10Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 7:10Conan O'Brien?

  They're back in the house?

• 7:11Speaker 04

  Then, then one of the, one of them broke up with their boyfriend and moved back in.

• 7:15Conan O'Brien?

  What are your daughters' names?

• 7:16Speaker 04

  Uh, so uh Billy and Macy.

• 7:18Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, Billy and Macy. I get the sense that you wouldn't be unhappy if Billy and Macy maybe got their own place?

• 7:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, don't get me, don't get me wrong. I, I, I love these girls, right?

• 7:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Um, but, but uh, so Billy, for example, uh, she has uh her masters in classical performance music uh in clarinet. And so she's gone on to uh be a teacher. She teaches uh other kids how to play clarinet. And she also plays piano and teaches piano, teaches saxophone. Um, and sometimes she does this in our house while I'm trying to get that afternoon nap. So, you know, it would be great if that was just happening.

• 7:53Conan O'Brien?

  And the other, the other daughter loves clogging.

• 7:59Conan O'Brien?

  She likes to, we're the traditional lead clogs, which is before wood. Uh, okay, so, um, listen, don't get me wrong. I understand what you're saying. You're a good dad. You and your wife love your kids, but it might be nice if they had their own place. Yes?

• 8:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:19Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 8:19Speaker 05

  How do you suggest he does that?

• 8:21Conan O'Brien?

  Well, how would it go over if I spoke to them?

• 8:24Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 8:25Conan O'Brien?

  Would I have any sway with your daughters at all?

• 8:28Speaker 04

  Well, maybe. Uh, so my, so when I told my uh family that I was coming on this podcast, my, and, and I said, "You know who Conan O'Brien is, right?" And um they were kind of semi-blank stares. They sort of had a, had an idea. And, and I explained, you know, Conan, he's a famous, you know, late, late show host, you know, you know? And, and uh my youngest daughter said, "Oh, he's not one of the bad ones, is he?"

• 8:52Conan O'Brien?

  Oh.

• 8:53Speaker 04

  He didn't do something bad, did he?

• 8:55Conan O'Brien?

  Well, yes, I've done bad things, but I, you know, but we covered it up. It was in the late eighties before I got on television. Yeah. Um, okay, so they're not, they don't sound like they're super fans of mine.

• 9:08Conan O'Brien?

  To put it mildly.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's put it that way.

• 9:10Conan O'Brien?

  Listen, sometimes a blank stare, you can see a little bit of slight recognition in there. Um, maybe if they saw my face, it would change from blank stare more to, I don't know, horror. Uh, who can say which way it would go? But I'm very convincing, Glenn. And maybe I could find them a place and move them into it. What do you think?

• 9:31Speaker 04

  This sounds, this is music to my ears. I have been waiting for somebody to come along and solve this problem for me.

• 9:37Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, so, um...

• 9:39Speaker 04

  She's a great clarinet player, but you know, it's like SpongeBob and Squidward, right? There's only so much that you can take and then...

• 9:45Conan O'Brien?

  Listen, the clarinet is fine in doses. And, uh, that's fine, but I, she sounds very talented. Uh, they sound like lovely young women, but I think they need to move out of your house. And I think they need to talk to someone they look up to and admire. Unfortunately, we don't know who that is.

• 10:05Speaker 04

  But, I mean, you are taller than both of them, so they would be looking out to you.

• 10:11Conan O'Brien?

  You know, sometimes... What about old Simpsons episodes? What, maybe I could show them old Simpsons? Sometimes people who don't know my work now like old Simpsons episodes that I worked on.

• 10:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, no, one of my daughters was just saying the other night, they just rewatched the monorail episode.

• 10:28Conan O'Brien?

  There you go! There you go!

• 10:30Speaker 04

  I know.

• 10:30Conan O'Brien?

  You could say the man behind the monorail episode is here and he's gonna help you move into a new apartment.

• 10:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, boy, has he got something to sell you.

• 10:41Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, exactly. And then I could sing the monorail song to them? I'm telling you, I could...

• 10:47Speaker 04

  Monorail.

• 10:47Conan O'Brien?

  I...

• 10:48Speaker 04

  Monorail.

• 10:48Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, I know.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  Monorail.

• 10:49Speaker 06

  Apartment, apartment.

• 10:51Conan O'Brien?

  Apartment, apartment.

• 10:53Speaker 06

  Yes!

• 10:53Conan O'Brien?

  It's nice and cozy on your own. Apartment, apartment. It's kind of a separate home. Apartment, apartment.

• 11:01Conan O'Brien?

  This bed folds out and it sleeps two. Apartment. Apartment. Apartment.

• 11:05Speaker 04

  Don't rig dead after two.

• 11:07Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, apartment. Apartment. Apartment. See? We're doing it. I think the two of us could get them out of the house. And, and I say that again with love. I mean, I like-

• 11:19Speaker 04

  Me too. Absolutely.

• 11:20Conan O'Brien?

  I, I know you love them. Me less so because they don't, they don't seem to know my work. Um, but eh, I'll get over it. I'll get over it. But, but I like you Glenn and I, and I would like to, uh, I'd like to help. I'd like to help you if I could. That's all.

• 11:34Speaker 04

  Hey, that, that's, that's all I can ask.

• 11:37Conan O'Brien?

  Well, no. A lot of people ask for other things too. I was gonna give you money, but you said that's all I can ask, so. You fucked that up real good.

• 11:46Speaker 04

  Just a one time offer. Okay.

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• 12:21Speaker 02

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• 12:56Conan O'Brien?

  And what about the show? If I went on the show, would I be a good guest for your show? Or is it not that kind of program? Is it more serious?

• 13:04Speaker 04

  No, it most definitely is that kind of program. I mean, for instance, we had the big country star Luke Combs on the show just this week.

• 13:12Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, do your kids know who Luke Combs is?

• 13:15Speaker 04

  I really hope not. I'm not a huge fan myself of country music, but...

• 13:19Conan O'Brien?

  Wow, well, I'm glad Luke Combs already did the interview.

• 13:24Conan O'Brien?

  I'm glad he's out of the building. Hey, you got him on tape, so...

• 13:28Speaker 04

  Wow, I just can't believe I did a drive-by on Luke Combs.

• 13:32Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, you just shit on a guest on your show who you were bragging about. You were like, "Hey, we got Luke Combs." "Do you like him?" "No."

• 13:44Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, wow.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  So the question is though, Conan, could you get up early enough in the morning to come in and be on a breakfast show?

• 13:50Conan O'Brien?

  Of course I could.

• 13:51Speaker 04

  Are you an early riser?

• 13:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, of course I could get up. Hey, listen, I'm ready to go anytime, day or night. Okay, I am always present, always ready to go.

• 14:01Speaker 04

  Right, well, then you'd be a perfect guest.

• 14:03Conan O'Brien?

  Let me ask you, maybe because you've been working in broadcasting for a long time in the radio section, I only started doing the podcast about five years ago. Is there any advice you can give me?

• 14:14Speaker 04

  Any advice for Conan?

• 14:17Conan O'Brien?

  I'm always looking to improve.

• 14:20Conan O'Brien?

  Just kidding. I'm sorry, that was funny.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  I know, but you can see why I was so taken aback. Because like, you know, I've been listening for pretty much the whole duration of the podcast, Conan.

• 14:32Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I know, I was kidding about the whole advice thing.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  I just wasn't expecting you to ask for it.

• 14:36Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I know, I don't know what I was thinking. Listen.

• 14:42Conan O'Brien?

  Listen, I think, I like you. You seem like a fine fellow. You've got a good sense of humor. You wear a shirt that matches exactly the color of what's behind you. Just why you'll never be a weatherman?

• 14:55Speaker 04

  Like I say, New Zealanders, we just like to fade into the background.

• 14:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, exactly. How would I, uh, how would I get along in, in New Zealand? If I come to New Zealand, how would the people treat me, do you think?

• 15:05Speaker 04

  Um, I, I think that they might, we do, there is a, a guy called Chris Parker, who is, is a, a tall, red-headed comedian in, in New Zealand. And people might think that you're him if they don't know that, that you're you.

• 15:17Conan O'Brien?

  Okay. That's fine.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:20Conan O'Brien?

  As long as he's well-liked, I'll take it.

• 15:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, no, he's very, he's, he's very popular.

• 15:24Conan O'Brien?

  So if I go into restaurants and say I'm Chris Parker, um, and I want a lamb pie, they'll, they'll serve it up?

• 15:31Speaker 04

  That'll, that'll work well, except in New, in New Zealand, we have this thing. So you know the rule of six degrees of separation, right? That, that, you know, everybody knows everybody in the world, you know, because you know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody, blah, blah, blah. Well, in New Zealand, uh, we call that rule two degrees. So, so, so like I said, there's only five million people here. So we know somebody who knows somebody.

• 15:54Conan O'Brien?

  Right.

• 15:55Speaker 04

  So chances are you'll go into that restaurant and Chris Parker will actually be sitting there anyway.

• 15:59Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, okay. So that's my scam won't work. My scam of running up a big tab and putting it on this red-haired Chris Parker, probably not gonna work out.

• 16:07Speaker 04

  And that's one of the main reasons why I wanted to be on your show, Conan, because, you know, you've talked to all these fantastic people. Um, you know, people like Jeff Goldblum, uh, people like Harrison Ford. And now I'm only two degrees away from those people. It's fantastic.

• 16:20Conan O'Brien?

  Aren't you just one degree away?

• 16:22Speaker 04

  Well, I know you, you know them.

• 16:24Speaker 06

  Two, that's two.

• 16:24Speaker 04

  I always get confused by this too.

• 16:26Conan O'Brien?

  I get confused by it too.

• 16:27Speaker 06

  I think it's two, because if it was just you, then you'd be one degree.

• 16:32Conan O'Brien?

  I think it's more with Harrison Ford, because he can be a very distant person.

• 16:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 16:36Conan O'Brien?

  So I think it's five degrees of separation. Yeah, he's a degree and a half.

• 16:39Speaker 04

  He certainly sounded like he was trying to separate himself a little bit further away during the podcast.

• 16:45Conan O'Brien?

  I tend to frighten him. Uh, I like this. I, I, I like talking to you. Um, and, uh, I wish you all the best with your daughters. And I think maybe if you start familiarizing them with my work, who knows?

• 17:00Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 17:01Conan O'Brien?

  Um, then I'm.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  I've been trying to get them.

• 17:03Speaker 06

  Who knows?

• 17:04Speaker 04

  I've been trying to get them to watch, um, Conan Must Go.

• 17:07Conan O'Brien?

  Get them to watch.

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 17:09Conan O'Brien?

  Drink, drink this acid. Do it. It's good.

• 17:13Speaker 05

  Maybe if you go visit, first thing you have to do is an orientation where you do a presentation on who you are to them.

• 17:18Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 17:19Speaker 05

  Then you can get them in an apartment.

• 17:21Conan O'Brien?

  Maybe that's what I do.

• 17:21Speaker 04

  Nice. Like a PowerPoint.

• 17:22Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. I'll do a PowerPoint presentation on who I am and why they should care.

• 17:26Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 17:26Conan O'Brien?

  And then I'll tell them to get out of the house.

• 17:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 17:29Speaker 04

  Yes. So, so you can stand in front of a green screen with a pointer.

• 17:33Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 17:33Speaker 04

  And, and, and, you know, here's, here's, here's the monorail.

• 17:36Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 17:36Speaker 04

  On The Simpsons. Here's me looking a Norwegian in the street.

• 17:40Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. The whole arc of my career. That's all you know? That's all you know? Oh, my God. You just took Lincoln from Wood, Woodchopper to Ford Cedar. And you skipped the whole rest of the part. Listen.

• 17:55Speaker 04

  And then here's the house. Here's the apartment.

• 17:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 17:57Speaker 04

  Away from the house or the flat, as we would call it in New Zealand.

• 18:00Speaker 06

  Ah.

• 18:01Conan O'Brien?

  We'll get you into a flat. I'm going to.

• 18:04Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 18:05Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I, I hope someday we meet. I hope, uh, maybe it's possible that I can get your, uh, daughters to move nearby because you do love them. You care about them. You want them to, but enough of the clarinet at two in the morning. Um, and, uh, and we'll, uh, we'll try and see if we can make that happen. I think that'd be nice.

• 18:26Speaker 05

  That would be, that'd be a dream.

• 18:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Dream come true. Well, that's what I do. Some people say I make dreams come true.

• 18:32Speaker 05

  Who says?

• 18:32Conan O'Brien?

  I've never, no, no one's ever said that yet.

• 18:35Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 18:36Conan O'Brien?

  What I said was aspirational.

• 18:38Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 18:38Conan O'Brien?

  That someday someone's gonna say, you made my dreams come true.

• 18:41Speaker 05

  I see.

• 18:42Conan O'Brien?

  Something that hasn't been said yet, but could be said in the future.

• 18:46Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 18:46Speaker 04

  So what, what you're saying is you could be in my dreams tonight.

• 18:49Conan O'Brien?

  You frightened me. I didn't see you there. You, you drifted into the background again. Um, Glenn, you're a madman. Uh.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  I haven't had a lot of sleep. I'm sorry.

• 19:00Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, you're a sleep deprived madman. Have a great day or night. I don't know. What time of day is it where you are now?

• 19:07Speaker 04

  It is just coming up to 10 in the morning here.

• 19:09Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, so probably time for you to go to bed.

• 19:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's almost past my bedtime.

• 19:14Conan O'Brien?

  Well, my best to you. Not my best to your daughters, because they don't seem to give a shit. But we'll correct that.

• 19:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, we'll work on that.

• 19:23Conan O'Brien?

  Have a terrific day and I hope our paths cross. I really do.

• 19:28Speaker 04

  Okay, so do I. I really hope they do. I really hope they do.

• 19:32Conan O'Brien?

  You never know. You never know in this crazy world what's gonna happen. All right, go change your shirt. Bye bye.

• 19:39Speaker 04

  Bye. See ya. Lovely to meet you, Matt and Sonu.

• 19:44Speaker 00

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• 20:01Speaker 00

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