This Study Found a $50,000 Cure in Your Body. (And It Activates NATURALLY)

You don’t need to spend tens of thousands of dollars on exotic injections to heal your body. You already possess the ultimate, built-in repair system: your own stem cells. The problem? By the time you reach your mid-30s, the red marrow in your bones converts to fatty marrow, leading to a staggering 90% drop in circulating stem cells. In this episode, stem cell scientist Christian Drapeau reveals the exact mechanisms behind human aging and how disease is simply a failure of endogenous repair. We discuss the clinical data proving that a 3-day fast triggers massive stem cell proliferation. We also decode 3,000-year-old Chinese medicine secrets, revealing the specific plants—like Fo-Ti, Goji Berry, Sea Buckthorn, and Blue-Green Algae—that actively mobilize stem cells from your bone marrow and drive them directly into injured tissues. Uncover what’s really going on in your body with advanced biomarker testing for hormones, thyroid, and metabolism— plus a 1-hour consultation with a Senior Health Advisor! → http://mybloodwork.com Thank you to our sponsors! Sunlighten Sauna: https://get.sunlighten.com/axepodcastManukora Manuka Honey: https://manukora.com/axeCaraway Home: carawayhome.com/drjoshaxe (Use code DRJOSHAXE) for an exclusive discount Watch The Dr. Josh Axe Show every Monday & Thursday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drjoshaxe?sub_confirmation=1 🎧 Early Access! Our listeners enjoy every episode before anyone else! Tune in below and join our exclusive group of listeners → Spotify: https://bit.ly/DrJoshAxeSpotifyApple Podcast: https://apple.co/3JDvWcS Pre-order my NEW BOOK, Heal Your Cells → https://bit.ly/3QJBcQ5 Watch my free training on how to naturally balance your blood sugar and reverse your symptoms → http://DrAxeDiabetesClass.com Discover practical steps you can take today to start healing your thyroid naturally → http://DrAxeThyroidClass.com If you’re ready to start feeling like yourself again and balance your hormones, take my free class → http://DrAxeHormoneClass.com CONNECT WITH DR. JOSH AXEInstagram → https://www.instagram.com/drjoshaxe/Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/DrJoshAxe/TikTok → https://www.tiktok.com/@thedrjoshaxeshow/X → https://x.com/drjoshaxe/LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshaxeWebsite → http://thehealthinstitute.comSign up for my newsletter → https://bit.ly/4oE9Jf3Ask Dr. Axe → http://speakpipe.com/drjoshaxe CONNECT WITH CHRISTIANInstagram → @stemcellchristian & @stemregenFacebook → @STEMREGENOfficialTikTok → @stemcellchristianYouTube → ⁨@stemregen⁩ Timestamps0:00 — Injections vs. Your Own Stem Cells4:36 — Why We Age: The Bone Marrow Shift10:12 — Ancient Herbs That Boost Stem Cells16:48 — Reversing Gray Hair Naturally23:14 — How Blue-Green Algae Heals the Body30:52 — Do Stem Cells Stop Cancer Growth?38:21 — Top Nutrients for Cellular Repair45:10 — The #1 Plant for Stem Cell Release51:39 — Why Connective Tissue Drives Healing58:04 — The 1,000 Stem Cell Resilience Test DISCLAIMERThis content is strictly the opinion of Dr. Josh Axe and is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide medical advice or to take the place of medical advice or treatment from a personal physician. All viewers of this content are advised to consult their doctors or qualified health professionals regarding specific health questions. Neither Dr. Axe nor the publisher of this content takes responsibility for possible health consequences of any person or persons reading or following the information in this educational content. All viewers of this content, especially those taking prescription or over-the-counter medications, should consult their physicians before beginning any nutrition, supplement or lifestyle program. MB015JA6XO6GDY1

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• 0:00Josh Axe?

  This is wisdom that's been hidden for thousands of years.

• 0:03Speaker 01

  Correct. We discovered that this blue renal was triggering the release of stem cells from the bone marrow.

• 0:08Josh Axe?

  Stem cells have literally changed my life.

• 0:11Speaker 01

  So now you go back to the core of your health and it's your ability to repair. If you give back to the body its ability to repair, the impact can be phenomenal.

• 0:21Josh Axe?

  Somebody's looking to age more slowly. Maybe the single greatest thing they could do is focus on replenishing their own stem cells.

• 0:43Josh Axe?

  If you've ever looked into stem cell therapy for chronic pain, joint issues, or anti-aging, you've probably been hit with a massive price tag. Well, today I'm sitting down with stem cell scientist Christian Drapow, who says you have all of the stem cells you already need, sitting inside your own bone marrow in your body right now. Now, I'm a little bit skeptical of the idea, but Christian is here to convince me otherwise. Christian, welcome to the show.

• 1:10Speaker 01

  Thank you so much. My pleasure.

• 1:12Josh Axe?

  Excited to dive in, and I will start off by saying that stem cells have literally changed my life in incredibly positive way. You know, I had a spinal infection about three, a little over three years ago, and stem cells helped me heal. About 10 years ago, I hurt myself lifting weights. I blew my L5S1 disc in my L4, L5 disc. Chronic pain for years and years. I went and got stem cell injections. And three months later, all of a sudden I was 70, 80% better. And so for me, stem cells have been such a powerful form of medicine and helping me heal. And I do, and listen, generally I am in agreement with you, but I do want to push back a little bit on a few of these points.

• 1:53Josh Axe?

  And then here's something I found is that I eat in a way to activate stem cells. However, my experience has been that just pales in comparison in the strength and the effectiveness to going out and getting stem cell injections, even though it's very expensive. What are your thoughts on that?

• 2:13Speaker 01

  I mean, it's a discussion that is a little bit more nuanced than this. If you're talking about an application in joints, vertebra, like what was your experience? Then injection in the joint is by far superior. You don't have enough blood circulation into joints to really deliver a lot of stem cells. It's not impossible, we have seen it. But anybody that comes with an injury to a joint, if they have the funds to do it, I'll tell them, go for an injection. But if you're talking about systemic, like lung function, heart function, liver function, and so on, releasing your own stem cells will have benefits equal, if it's not superior to injections, for a number of reasons. And it's a spectrum, it's not like a black and white answer.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  It depends on the terrain. When you put stem cells, when you inject stem cells, well, let's put it this way. Injecting stem cells, most of them, it depends where they're injected, it depends of a lot of different things. But generally speaking, very few of them survive past the first day. Virtually none survive past a week. So they are, at the end of the day, almost like a slow-release exosome product. Through a pathosis of stem cells, they, at the end of the day, distimulate your endogenous ability to repair. If your tissues are depleted with stem cells, then that means these stem cells and exosomes don't talk to a lot of people in your body. So you come back and you say, I wasted my money. But stem cells do their job.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  But if you don't have enough in you, then you don't have leverage. And that's why we see in our study the greatest results when both are combined. You mobilize your own stem cells, and then you get a stem cell injection. And it's in that case that we get the best results.

• 3:55Josh Axe?

  You know, there are about nine, now there's 12 hallmarks of aging. But always on the list is stem cell exhaustion. And so for a lot of people, I don't think they fully realize that your stem cells are what create new tissues. The main thing used for tissue regeneration and healing. And so when you think about the top things that are damaging our stem cells today, causing people to have chronic illness, causing people to age too quickly, what are the top? Things today that are destroying our body's own internal stem cells.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  Exhaustion means two things in the body. There's one that we can do something about it. There's another one that as of today, there's not a whole lot that we can do about it. Fasting is one thing, and I know that you know very well about fasting. So the first one is the conversion of red marrow into fatty marrow. That starts very early in life. From the moment you're born, not long after, red marrow starts to convert into fatty marrow. By age fifteen, you've lost fifty percent of your red marrow. As you get into your mid thirties, probably seventy-five percent of your red marrow. And that corresponds to about a ninety percent decline in the number of stem cells in circulation. There's nothing you can do to change that other than possibly fasting.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  More research needs to be done, but fasting looks like as a method that can definitely rejuvenate stem cells. Can it reconvert the red marrow, yellow marrow into red marrow? Open question, but it's good for stem cells. The other part is exhaustion of stem cells in tissues. For example, the good example is the gut. So you have intestinal stem cells that constantly renew the lining of the intestine. Like you get a new lining like every five days or so, extremely active. But the moment that you've got an injury, an ulcer, whatever, colitis, and locally the tissue is constantly fighting to repair, it runs out of stem cells. That's local exhaustion of stem cells. Then you've got the acute condition.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  If you release stem cells from the bone marrow, you can replenish that layer. So you help, you've not removed any of the cause of the problem. So you need to dive to the cause, but at least the balance between degeneration and repair. Now your repair exceeds the degeneration. So exhaustion in the bone marrow, there's not a whole lot that you can do. Fasting is the best. Exhaustion in the tissue, it has a lot to do with. Diet, toxicity, lifestyle. I would say the most relevant to me will be sleep and stress.

• 6:25Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  Stress is going to suppress, and it was in animal studies, it was shown to be stress hormones. So cortisol, adrenaline are going to suppress stem cells' ability to migrate into tissue and proliferate. So you basically shut down the body's ability to replenish your tissues with stem cells.

• 6:43Josh Axe?

  Wow.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  So if there's one thing to control, it would say stress.

• 6:46Josh Axe?

  Well, and I want to go the way back and say this, if somebody is looking at reversing their biological age, if somebody's looking to age more slowly, maybe the single greatest thing they could do is focus on replenishing their own stem cells, protecting their stem cells. You know, I've spent a lot of time studying Chinese medicine, and they have a term for this, and it's called, so they're, they say if you want to age slowly in Chinese medicine, they say preserve the three treasures. And the three treasures are Sheng, Qi, and Jing. Qi is cellular energy, it's tied to your mitochondrial health. Sheng is your spiritual sort of side of things. And Jing, they would say, is your bone marrow.

• 7:27Josh Axe?

  So their whole thing for physical anti-aging in all of Chinese medicine, it's almost, it's over 3,000 years old, is preserving your bone marrow stem cells.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  I have a story for you that you will like. This is not my expertise, so you'll know way more about what I'm going to tell you. But when I published my book, Cracking the Stem Cell Code, in 2010. So somebody at Harvard read it, she was a professor in traditional Chinese medicine, and her main focus, she's an American, she learned Chinese, and her passion was to go back into ancient Chinese medicine and read, you know, as you know very well, Chinese medicine is not like research like what we do in the West. It's opinions from notorious healers, and if they're known enough and prestigious enough, then their opinion becomes science. So to go through all this literature and see what was lost, if anything, when it transferred to what is today traditional Chinese medicine.

• 8:24Speaker 01

  So she found a number of things, but one that she found was the Jing. She said in ancient Chinese medicine, there are two jings. There is the primordial Jing on the day of your conception.

• 8:34Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  And then the postnatal Jing.

• 8:35Josh Axe?

  That's right, yeah.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  So, and she said, and the way I was describing embryonic stem cells and adult stem cells in my book, she says, it's the same description as prenatal Jing and postnatal Jing. So I asked her, what plants are there to support the Jing? And she told me, fo ti, he shi wu.

• 8:52Josh Axe?

  Oh, yeah.

• 8:52Speaker 01

  And goji, she said, he shi wu stimulates the Jing and, and goji berry circulates the Jing. So I went to the lab and we tested in humans, what is the effect of fo ti and goji berry? And we found that fo ti stimulates release of stem cells from the bone marrow and goji berry stimulates their migration out of the blood into tissues.

• 9:11Josh Axe?

  Now, listen, I, I, I love talking about this because it's, it's so, I, because this is wisdom that's been hidden for, for thousands of years.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 9:19Josh Axe?

  And so, and just, just so everybody can keep up with some of these terms, Jing is spelled J I N G. And that is really tied to this area of the bone marrow. That's really your stem cells. Is the way we would communicate this in Western medicine today. And then fo ti, which is called he shi wu. He, uh, fo ti is an, is a, an herb that we, that you can take today. You can buy at some, some health food stores. A lot that most don't carry it. But it's one of the top herbs used in China. And the ancient folklore around this is really amazing to where there was a man and his hair had turned gray. He started using fo ti daily and his hair turned back black. And so, you know, and by the way, I've had a couple of people, so we have a,

• 10:05Josh Axe?

  at the Health Institute, we've got a program where we've had a couple of women lately who their hairs went from gray back to black. And part of it is you can start to reverse the aging. Typically, it's stress that will really, you know, start to wear out your stem cells. It can cause that to happen. But this fo ti is incredible for supporting stem cells, starting to reverse some of that aging process. And of course, goji berry too. I mean, that is probably not talked about enough here in, in Western medicine. That's actually a Shen builder as well for reducing stress, boosting nitric oxide. Anyways, that's another just incredible ingredient.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  But the hair color is interesting because after experiencing this with FOTI, we had had the same thing with the blue green algae, AFA blue green algae that I started my work with. That is through this ingredient that we discovered this whole phenomenon of stem cell mobilization. And we had cases of people who came to me and reported like my hair color is changing. And honestly, my answer to them was like, stop making up that stuff. You know, it's like, it's not necessary. It's a good product enough. Like, don't make up these stories. And they were telling me, no, it's happening. So we turned that into a small study, eight people. And we took photographs and measured the density of white in the hair. And in the six or eight individuals, in all of them in six months, an average of 20% reduction in white.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  And that became then almost like something that I really pay attention. Like in the folks medicine, the folklore of the use of a plant, I will ask or look in the literature, has this been used anywhere? And to report to change hair color, because that's telling me, I mean, it's one of the box that I check. If I see a plant that has a real potential to be a stem cell mobilizer.

• 11:48Josh Axe?

  You know, when we look at these algies, like, let's just use spirulina as an example. In some of my research, one, a lot of people don't realize this is really more of a part of a microbial family, right? Most people think, oh, spirulina, they might think of it as more of a vegetable. It's more of a microbial. And it also is maybe the highest food that I know of in peptides. You know, it's actually a very, so when people are using plant-based peptides today, you know, I mean, fava beans one, there's a few others, but I mean peptides, you know, the blue green algae is maybe one of the highest things in peptides. It's super high in magnesium, but it's an incredible, you know, and I love that combination.

• 12:30Josh Axe?

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• 13:15Josh Axe?

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• 13:46Josh Axe?

  You know, one of the things that I started to learn as I also formulated supplements, I know this is something you're an expert in, is I started to realize that in Western medicine today, everything becomes isolated, right? So it's like, take calcium by itself, right? Take this one thing by itself. But when you go and study these ancient forms of medicine, they were so wise in saying, no, I understand it. If I pair these two herbs together, they're more effective. Now, it's so funny, Christian, you'll enjoy this. This was probably about, I don't know, maybe, I want to say about 10 years ago. The study came out that said, when you consume tumor, take it with piperine, which is a compound in black pepper, because it increases circulation and gets more throughout your body.

• 14:30Josh Axe?

  And like, the scientific community was like, wow, what a medical breakthrough. This is incredible. The, you know, Ayurvedic medicine has a drink called Golden Milk, which is turmeric along with black pepper, long pepper and ginger. That's been around for like, again, thousands of years and they already knew this.

• 14:48Speaker 01

  All turmeric drink in a your Vida as peppery.

• 14:51Josh Axe?

  That's right.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  Like pepper.

• 14:52Josh Axe?

  Exactly. So it's just so funny today that like the scientific community sometimes is behind.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:58Josh Axe?

  What a lot of these ancients were doing. And so anyways, but that's one of the things I've even see that you're doing. It seems like in your product is you're really looking at saying, how can I combine certain ingredients together?

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 15:10Josh Axe?

  To get an even more important effect. And so one thing I'd like to do is kind of, I'd love for you to share within your brain and some of your thoughts on. If you are looking at activating stem cells and supporting stem cells in somebody's body. What are some of those? And maybe you hit on a few. If there's any others, feel free to show us, but what are some of those key ingredients? And are there any that you found may work synergistically together?

• 15:31Speaker 01

  Okay. It's a big question. First, when we say activating. These cells can be in a somewhat dormant state that could be activated. Other than that. Stem cells don't have an inactivated state, an activated state. I mean, they do deep in the bone marrow. You have such a thing as quiet and stem cells, but they're not the stem cells that we're talking about here when we talk stem cell mobilization. So when we say activating, really it's it's mobilizing, releasing them from the bone marrow. So I started with AFA, blue green algae from Klamath Lake. So I was hired in 1995 to study that plant right after the passage of the Shea. The dietary supplement held in education act. So I had to simply document mechanisms of action, active compound.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  So that there was science behind the claims that were being made. The main claims were immunity, supportive immunity, anti inflammation. And mood elevation, mental clarity. Very quickly I identified it contains. Ficusinid, which is a cox two blocker, selective cox two inhibitor.

• 16:30Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  But the polysaccharides stimulate NK cell activation, migration and macrophage activation. And it's a source of phenyl ethylamine, molecule of love. So which was shown in the literature. Alone with a blocker of monamine oxidase inhibitor to actually reverse depression. So it's a very strong component for like a. Sense of like well being, so it explained all the benefits that people had observed. But as I'm doing this research, I came across people reversing multiple sclerosis, COPD, emphysema, Parkinson, Alzheimer's, heart disease, atherosclerosis. I mean, the list was so long and the degree of the benefits were very, very, it was great, like amazing benefits.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  So for a number of, like for a year or two, I don't know really if these are real, they're just stories. But as I started to dig in some of these cases, there's a point where it culminated into a real belief that is was real. This product was doing something and I could not explain. So we did a number of projects until early 2001. I came across an article, the title was Turning Blood Into Brain. So go back in 2001, an article that shows a stem cell can go from the bone marrow to the brain and becoming a brain cell. In 2001, stem cells are only known to be precursors to blood cells and the brain does not repair. At least that's what we're told. Yeah. So I thought it was fascinating. So I went to the local medical library, which was not that extensive in Klamat Falls.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  But I found one other paper, pre-internet, so I had to go and flip and go through all these journals. So I found one other article documenting the same phenomenon in the liver and in the heart. So I simply thought, can you think of a physiological mechanism that will allow stem cells to become liver, heart and brain, but not skin, pancreas, lung and the rest? I can't. So if they become those three, they have to become the rest. So let's assume that they will become the rest. That means they must be the repair system of the body. How can you see a stem cell going to the brain, becoming a brain cell? And the conclusion would be, oh, it was a crazy stem cell? No, it has to be with a purpose. So we published an article in 2001, Stem Cells Are The Repair System Of The Body.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  And in the back of my mind, just like there are plants that stimulate the immune system, what if this blue green algae was stimulating the repair system? So we bought a flow cytometer that counts stem cells. We started on ourselves and very quickly we discovered that this blue green algae was triggering the release of stem cells from the bone marrow. Then after documenting the mechanism of action, active compound, proof of concept and all of that, then my attention went to what else has been seen in the world to be associated with a broad range of benefits? We talked about FOTI, it's one of them, but will come to mind immediately like medicinal mushroom.

• 19:16Josh Axe?

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, I, I, I take reishi constantly. I tend to do a multi mushroom blend. But yeah, I mean, reishi was another one of those in ancient Chinese medicine that was often talked about being great for longevity, especially to, to, to, to, to your point there, you know, and they have beta glucans. I mean, part of that benefit there is this improving cellular communication, which, which I'm sure, and maybe you could talk about this. But I mean, that, that is a really key part of the body knowing where to repair or what to kill like a cancer cell. And, and that's something we know mushrooms are, are great at.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, so I, I will talk about other plants as we move forward, but let's stop on mushroom. Because when I came to study those, so goji berry, medicinal mushroom, a lot of adaptogens that are, a lot of them are polysaccharide base. And when we started to do these, to test these, we saw an immediate drop in the number of stem cells. Now we're looking for something that is going to give an increase. So as somebody, I'm not a clinician, I'm in the lab. So as somebody in the lab, you see a reverse of what you're expecting and you think the machine is screwed up. So let's clean up the machine, let's readjust everything and later on we get the same response. So let's change the antibodies, you know, they're, they're probably faulty.

• 20:29Speaker 01

  And after maybe three, four months of trying to find what was wrong with that response, we had to realize it was a real response. And digging a little bit more into it, we realized these polysaccharide increased the density of a specific receptor CXCR4 that responds to the SOS molecule coming from an injured tissue or just a tissue needing repair. So as you enhance stem cells' ability to detect these areas and migrating these tissues, well, they disappear from the bloodstream. So the moment that I identified those, then it became clear to me, when you release stem cells, if you want them to do their work, they have to migrate into tissues, otherwise in your blood, they do nothing.

• 21:08Josh Axe?

  That's right.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  So the moment I discovered those kinds of product, now I starting to combine them. So that's one of the synergy. So we have ingredients like FOTI, which we do not have in our formula, because although it was an amazing discovery to tie back to Chinese medicine, it was probably the least effective. One of the least effective and you cannot take it every day like it has consequence on the liver over time. So we passed on that one, but, but we have a lot of effective stem cell mobilizers coupled with beta glucan to drive stem cells into tissues.

• 21:39Josh Axe?

  Yeah, that's so powerful. Yeah, I mean, I love this idea and this phrase that of course I didn't come up with it Hippocrates and maybe he did. But you know, food is medicine. And so, you know, I, I, one of the things that I, I wrote a book years ago on this and I had a lot of fun doing it. And this is the ancient principle of like supports like, you know, and so there, and part of that is, you know, and this could be used in a lot of different examples. So for instance, if you need to support your eyes, eat carrots because if you cut it open, it looks like an eye or you want to support your blood. Eat beets because it looks like blood and it supports the area or a walnut looks like a hemisphere of your brain. Right? So we know these principles.

• 22:19Josh Axe?

  One of the unique things about reishi mushroom was if you hold it up, it looks like your kidneys or your kidneys in adrenal glands. I mean, it is one of those like support like things. And so that's why, I mean, I have always loved mushrooms. I love the research behind mushrooms. And I want to share just a personal example of how we use this with healing my mom from cancer. So my mom was diagnosed with cancer. Back in, I want to say 19, around 1995, 96, the first time went through the conventional treatments and my mom almost died. And then she just was very sick afterwards. Then this was again in 2006. My mom was diagnosed with cancer. This was 20 years ago. This was the second time.

• 23:01Josh Axe?

  And at the time I was learning all about natural medicine and we decided to take care of her all naturally. But a few of the things that she was taking is she took blue green algae every day. She did a lot of turmeric and ginger. We did a lot of medicinal mushrooms, especially reishi and followed a really, really clean diet. I mean, for the most part, meat, you know, the salmon, steamed vegetables, berries, bama granite, olive oil. I mean, that was pretty much the, pretty much the diet. And, but I look back and again, some of the things you're sharing and are the things my mom was taking, especially the blue green algae, the mushrooms there. Some of those herbals to, to, to help her heal.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  It's actually very interesting to see, and I'm not claiming here that, that, that these plants have anti-cancer properties. However, it's very interesting to see that as I've used these plants over the years for stem cell mobilization. I would say in the top 10 stories that come back to me is people with cancer who come back and say, you know, I took your product for whatever, like my knee pain. And they come back and they say, well, my prostate cancer is gone. Like, I've heard so many of these stories that I started to dig a little bit into it. And I'm, I'm not an oncologist, I'm not a clinician, so I'm just sharing data here. What I think is happening is that when a stem cell migrates into a tumor, and they are attracted to tumors.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  So a stem cell is coordinated, is programmed to multiply and then differentiate into cells of that tissue. So when they penetrate and they talk to each other. So when the stem cell proliferate, take the liquid from a population of stem cells that is growing, put that liquid in a quiescent, in a population of quiescent stem cells, and they start to multiply. Yeah. They, they release exosomes and they coordinate their response, let's see, like ants. Yeah. So that stem cell gets into a tissue, it starts to proliferate, and when it starts to differentiate, it entrains the isily proliferative cells into differentiation. So your cancer stops because you cannot differentiate and proliferate at the same time. It's one or the other.

• 25:01Speaker 01

  So I think it stops the tumor because we have seen it many, many times. A colleague of mine years ago isolated the protein that triggers the differentiation of stem cells into skin cells, keratinocytes. And he applied them on some people with melanomas and they disappeared a matter of weeks. I took all the plants now that we have documented having an effect on stem cell mobilization on PubMed, and you put their name and cancer, all of them have a vast literature on their anti-cancer properties. So, I mean, I would like to dig a little bit deeper, but I believe that one of the mechanism of action of all these plants that have anti-cancer properties is in part by stem cell mobilization. It's tapping on the anti-cancer properties of stem cells.

• 25:48Josh Axe?

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• 26:33Josh Axe?

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• 26:58Josh Axe?

  Now, we've talked a lot about herbs, and I want to come back to this topic, but I also am curious about if there are any nutrients specifically that are crucial. It could be vitamins, minerals, other compounds that are crucial to, you know, stem cell proliferation, increasing stem cells in our own body. Are there one or two that you know of that might also be very important?

• 27:19Speaker 01

  Not that I know of in the role of stem cell release, mobilization, like stem cells from the bone marrow to the blood. However, stem cells then migrate into tissues, and as you know, with the Aflic limits, they can go for 50 generations. It's basically the telomere attrition. So if it's an injury, and that process of proliferation is stimulated and is significant in order to achieve full repair, that process of amplification means mitochondrial biogenesis. It means a lot of cellular duplication, which means a lot of DNA duplication. So when you duplicate the DNA, you need a strong DNA. DNA repair mechanism.

• 27:59Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  If you don't want to to to develop like a weak tissue or faulty tissue, however you want to call it.

• 28:04Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  So I would say coenzyme Q ten, N A D.

• 28:08Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Everything that supports mitochondrial mitochondrial biogenesis and DNA repair.

• 28:14Josh Axe?

  That's so good.

• 28:15Speaker 01

  The the the new tissue, and and we forget that oftentimes, like your connective tissue, your fascia is so important in the body. It's like it's the soft skeleton of your body, probably holding you standing probably more than your bones.

• 28:28Josh Axe?

  But by the way, I knew a study came out recently, and my wife, she's a doctor, she she shared this with me. That they now know that fascia, it's not just like in your I T band, it's not just inserted. It literally is between every cell.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Everywhere.

• 28:43Josh Axe?

  I mean.

• 28:43Speaker 01

  Actually, your fascia more than you are organs.

• 28:46Josh Axe?

  That's right, yeah.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  So the fascia, the organs can grow in the fascia. So that means when you repair an organ, you have to rebuild the connective tissue. So collagen peptides.

• 28:56Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  Are extremely important when you talk about anything that is repair.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Microcirculation, when a stem cell is released, these stem cells can be fairly large for a twelve micron capillary.

• 29:09Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  So you need to have like really optimized microcirculation. So if people want to boost their stem cell function, I would say not their function for the stem cells, but the overall impact of stem cell role in the body is reopen the microvasculature. So nitric oxide producer, natto kinase to make the blood more fluid.

• 29:28Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Uh bioflavonoids that help that are essential for collagen formation. So if you want, because a capillary, oftentimes this is not talked about, I think, with the full understanding of what it is, like capillaries are not by themselves, like small blood vessels. They're like tunnel into your connective tissue.

• 29:48Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  Covered with the epithelial cells. So if they don't have a healthy surrounding, they're not healthy themselves. You cannot have a great flexibility of capillaries if you don't have flexible collagen and connective tissue. So provide everything to be able to rebuild those tissues, and it really boosts stem cell function.

• 30:07Josh Axe?

  That's so good. So a few things that I picked up there is one, we want to really support mitochondria. Things like alegic acid, NAD plus, coenzyme Q10, these things are critical for that. You know, I've done a fair amount of research on key nutrients for supporting stem cells. I mean, you hit on so many things. I would say just for the common nutrients though, for people that are important, and by the way, these are also really tied to things like testosterone production and immunity, but vitamin D and zinc, I think those are kind of the two that people may want to consider supporting their body. But those are amazing recommendations. And then the collagen, yeah, if you, you know, I hardly know anybody that as they age

• 30:49Josh Axe?

  that has bone issues. Not to say it doesn't happen. I mean, I know like you could have women, oftentimes especially, they get to a level of being just too feeble and they can fracture a hip, right? So that, but a lot of times, more often it's joint pain, it's joint dysfunction. And that's, you know, your joints and connective tissue in those areas in fascia, that's like 90% collagen. And that's almost all it is.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  Totally. I was going to say, one of the main issue with bones is that everybody has put in our brain as a society that calcium is what matters. But this is a lot of lobbying from dairy industry and all that, because at the end of the day, you need way more collagen in your bones, because bone solidity is not really the issue. It's bone frailty and inflexibility.

• 31:35Josh Axe?

  That's right.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  If your bone can bend, you won't break it.

• 31:37Josh Axe?

  That's right.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  But if it's too, if it's too tight and it can, it's not flexible at all, then it breaks.

• 31:42Josh Axe?

  And this is how kids are. When you have a one-year-old, their bones are, they're flexible and mobile to your point.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Look at a horse, a horse galloping on a slow video, and you see their bone actually bend to absorb the pressure. So your bone actually is meant to bend, but you need to maintain proper collagen formation.

• 32:01Josh Axe?

  I remember doing research on this years ago, there is more collagen in our bones than all other minerals combined.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Totally right.

• 32:08Josh Axe?

  Yeah. I mean, it's, it is, it is crucial. It's crucial. You know, one-third of all the protein in our bodies is collagen. And so, you know, and I think about our ancient ancestors, or the way that they would eat an animal, and they didn't just eat the muscle meat, right? They'd eat the organs, they would eat all of the connective tissue there as well. They would make bone broth. Of course, that's a great, that's probably the top source of collagen. But I think that's, that's, that's important. When you think about a

• 32:36Josh Axe?

  Some other foods that you like when it comes to, we talked about some plants. Are there any other foods that are kind of high on your list in terms of supporting stem cells?

• 32:45Speaker 01

  If I rely on the scientific literature, and it's not a lot in that, in that domain. But the ketogenic diet is so far what has been documented as being the best to support stem cell function.

• 32:57Josh Axe?

  Okay.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  And it probably goes back to fasting. Fasting triggers ketones, like the same kind of cellular phenomenon. I'm, I'm working on a next, my next book right now, which is really the, the, the main thesis that I, that I'm proposing. As we talked about before, you're born with red marrow. It converts into fatty marrow. So your, your repair power, let's say your endogenous repair capacity goes down as we age. Something that has very well, been very well documented in science. Like everybody knows about inflamaging, oxidative stress.

• 33:30Josh Axe?

  Yep.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  Mitochondrial dysfunction. But let's say, take, take inflamaging, for example. If inflammation was really the fundamental driver of disease formation, then take an ibuprofen. Does it change the course?

• 33:42Josh Axe?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  So I'm not saying it's not relevant at all. What I'm saying like fundamental, take oxidative stress. Well, take glutathione, vitamin E and vitamin C. You should change the course and it's good, but it's not changing the course. But we are doing studies right now where all we do, patient with stable chronic congestive heart failure. They've had the problem for years. Where they are, they're, they've been there for two years with the best of what medicine could give them. All we do is that we add a blend of plant extracts that trigger the release of their own stem cells. That's all we do. And so far we published the first 10 patients. Now I'm, I'm going through a second analysis of now the 40 total patients that we have in this study.

• 34:23Speaker 01

  The first 10 after six months, all 10 had recovered normal heart function. We're doing one now on Parkinson's. We're doing one on COPD. And my point is just to show your repair capacity goes down as you age. You have well documented what drives degeneration in tissues. What we never considered is that the body offers another side to that equation. Regeneration, it's your stem cells. But you lose it as we age. So disease development and aging actually results from a failure of endogenous repair. And if you give back to the body its ability to repair, the impact can be phenomenal.

• 35:00Josh Axe?

  Yeah, yeah, you know, one of the things that I have seen when I I do a lot of blood work on patients, so we do these advanced cellular panels and in in in working with so many patients on this and looking at blood work, the first domino that I see that kind of typically tips with most people that then throws everything else off is the hormone cortisol.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 35:23Josh Axe?

  You know, so and the reason I bring this up, though, is is you brought up something, growth and regeneration. Your body and your nervous system acts on a spectrum. It's either in parasympathetic state, which is rest and digest. It's creating stem cells. It's doing exactly what you talked about, or it's in this fight or flight state with high cortisol and melatonin tends to be over here in regeneration as well. And that is chronically elevated stress hormones like cortisol. And with that, you know, the things, the herbs that tend to help that the most are a lot of the adaptogens and mushrooms. It's reishi, it's ashwagandha, right? It's rhodiola rosea. It's a lot of these herbals. And so I do think there's also a connection there. But to your point, anything you can do plant wise to support this, you

• 36:05Josh Axe?

  know, tissue regeneration, stem cell activation, that's going to be high on the list. In Chinese medicine, too, they would say there's kind of two things you want to do. You want to focus on building the your body's ability to be anabolic, that's repair, generate and heal, and also your body's ability to activate autophagy, which is cleanse, which is activated by fasting. And so anyways, I

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Super important for stem cells.

• 36:30Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Because stem cells multiply rapidly, so they they they generate a lot of of garbage, if you want, in that in that in that process. And so that's why I think fasting with autophagy is so far has been shown to be the most impactful on stem cell function.

• 36:48Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  The repair, the the higher ability to repair after a fast, I think, is largely driven by the rejuvenation of your stem cell bank.

• 36:57Josh Axe?

  Well, you know, and fasting has been recommended for, again, you know, especially across religious circles, you know, obviously Judaism, Christianity, Islam, some of the major ones there, a lot of monks and deep thinkers also as well. But again, this is me thinking out loud, there is so much research. When you look at the longevity space, probably the best evidence for longevity, or one of the best things, is related to fasting.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  I mean, I'm not an expert in fasting. I fasted a lot. Let's say I'm an expert on my fasting.

• 37:27Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  Let's put it that way. And, uh, and from what I have encountered with friends and people who are telling me I cannot fast, like after three hours without food, like I start to have, I'm lightheaded and there are people who just cannot handle it.

• 37:42Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  And so I think you probably need to train your body. I fast easily.

• 37:47Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 37:47Speaker 01

  I fasted up to like all my study, all my exam periods in college, I would fast. Because I was so much sharper, so much present, I could concentrate for hours. I fasted all the time during these periods. A week, two weeks was not a problem to fast that long.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  But when somebody cannot, I think you just first need to recognize the terrain is not trained for, I never had to train. Like I always done it easily, but I have friends that absolutely can. So I, I think you need to train the body to be able to generate energy from your own fat to start to create ketones, work on ketones, so that you don't suffer hypoglycemia. You need to train. So I would say start with some avocado in breakfast, go on a heavy fat diet for a little while, so that the body kind of really is forced to develop this, this ability to tap into, into fats. But from a pure regeneration, rejuvenation standpoint, the science, and it's just, I believe it's a spectrum.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  But there's a point where if you don't fast for long enough, statistically you cannot pick up the difference. So I think it's there on, on intermittent fasting, but you cannot pick up the, the, the, the increase in stem cells, for example, with intermittent fasting. The studies have shown three days. So if you do three days fasting, you can pick up both an increase in stem cells in the refeeding period. And if you take stem cells before and after, you can measure that they migrate and proliferate more easily.

• 39:18Josh Axe?

  Oh, wow.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  So, so, but if you do, I, I would believe that if you, if you do intermittent fasting, you probably get a little bit of that. So over time, it accumulates the same benefits.

• 39:27Josh Axe?

  Yeah, yeah. So interesting. So I, I know your expertise is in plant-based stem cell medicine. And so we've talked about a lot today. We talked about Fotee, we talked about Rishi, we've talked about Goji, we've talked about the blue green algies. Are there any other herbs or plants that you want to talk about that you feel like, okay, these really also deserve mention?

• 39:47Speaker 01

  I mean, the one that I studied, I studied a lot of like ashwagandha, these adaptogen. The adaptogen either trigger a migration of stem cells out in the blood, into, out of the blood into tissues, or the response like FOTI is there, but it's not like, it's not like my hero plants. So the hero plants that we've had so far, I would say sibuk thornberry from the Tibetan plateau. So I was traveling in China at some point, I had, I was with three biochemists that did their PhD with plants of the Chinese pharmacopeia. And I asked them, okay, you're, you're lost on an island and, and what are, what is the one plant that you bring with you? And it was a joke, but it was not a joke. I

• 40:28Speaker 01

  wanted to know like, what in their eyes is like the top plant? And if it's good for everything, it's very likely as a stem cell effect. And they told me sibuk thornberry. I was surprised. I was, I don't know, I was expecting something more exotic. So I dove into scientific literature and Tibetan medicine, Mongolian medicine, Chinese medicine for lung cancer, disease of the lung, of the heart, cardiovascular system, diabetes, and to speed up recovery from bone fracture and burn to the skin. So look at this whole spectrum. So it's telling me, it looks like we have a stem cell effect. That's right. So I went there, I, I developed a relationship with a farmer on the Tibetan plateau. We derived an extract, we, we tested it and we had a good response on stem cell release.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  So that's another key ingredient that I'm working with. I came across a pharmacist years ago, talking about, she was looking, she went to Madagascar, Papua New Guinea, looking for plants for neurodegenerative diseases, Parkinson Alzheimer's. So I asked her, is there a plant that the healer told you, that's the plant that is good for everything? So she remembered on a trip to Madagascar, her guide and translator, on the way to the airport, stopped in a small market, scoop a, a full bag of these black beads and said, study that. What do you do as, as a scientist when somebody tells you study that? You study it for what? So it was in her freezer for five years. So she sent me a bag of these little beads. We tested them and we saw a very significant response. And it was of

• 41:53Speaker 01

  65 species of aloe, it's one specific. Species in Madagascar are used for centuries to make a local remedy called Vahona. That is used for longevity, for keeping grampa to work in the field and to reverse hair color.

• 42:08Josh Axe?

  And polysaccharides.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  And it's a polysaccharide, but we tested in, we got this massive release in stem cells.

• 42:13Josh Axe?

  Wow.

• 42:14Speaker 01

  So that's another ingredient that we have. We have Panax Norogenson.

• 42:17Josh Axe?

  And think about its ability to support healing and regeneration of tissue with a burn. I mean, of course, yeah, that makes total sense.

• 42:22Speaker 01

  I mean, we do have cases. It's not a study, but we have cases, one that I remember very well in South Africa. So the man was cooking polymer on a stove and it caught on fire and his reaction was to throw water on it. So, which was the thing not to do.

• 42:38Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  So it exploded and he had, he had severe burn on his, on his, on his arm, his thigh, a little bit on his, on his hip. But his, and his hand, his hand were like completely burnt, like skin hanging on. And, and so he went to the hospital and he started to pile on this, on our product, a blend of these plant extracts. Two capsules, more than that, like every two hours, all day long, he would take these products. And already on the first, like on the second or third day, he started to see something. So he has to wait for skin transplant. He was scheduled for a skin transplant on his thigh. And after 30 days, I have pictures of him and all of his skin is pretty much normal. It's not normal. It has a different color. It's like deep red, but no scars.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  So my point is that they are your repair system.

• 43:27Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 43:27Speaker 01

  And if you don't have enough, the fibroblast, the local fibroblast will kick in, you get, you will get scars or it will not heal. But if you boost the number of stem cells, your body will utilize them. That is clear in the scientific literature.

• 43:40Josh Axe?

  Yeah, it's so powerful. Is there anything else outside of plants? Is there any therapies? Could be red light therapy, hyperbaric oxygen, anything, any, any other food, anything specific that you, that you think, you know what? This is another thing that you've discovered, definitely should be part of somebody's stem cell boosting protocol if they're in great need.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think what is fascinating in that question is that we discovered stem cells as being like this exceptional thing. Like where can we find them? And we need to find like, oh, the fat has them. And later on, you know, you can have them in your tooth. And, and now, you know, fast forward 20 some years later, they're everywhere. You spit on the sidewalk, there's stem cells in there. They're everywhere. They are the core of, of like you're talking about health. What is more fundamental than your ability to repair? Cause you lose cells every day. That's another outcome of stem cell research. Take the heart, for example. You learn in traditional medicine that your heart will develop until about 10 years of age. And if you have a problem later on, if you lose cells in your heart, too bad. You cannot repair your heart.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Well, now we know today that your heart renews roughly about 1% a year. That's, that's a huge difference. Nothing to 1% a year. It's huge. Well, it's, it's like this everywhere in your body. So everything is, is a constant process of tissue turnover. So if you, if you look at the constant process of tissue turnover, that means your entire body is like this. It depends on how many stem cells you have in your bloodstream. So now you go back to the core of your health and it's your ability to repair. And I'm saying this because as now you, you dive into various modalities. Let's say PMF. PMF has been used for joint issues, repair for decades. And now we're discovering that if you put PMF in one area, even if you do like one leg versus the other,

• 45:30Speaker 01

  you will see that where you applied PMF, you get a pooling of stem cells. You boost their ability to migrate in the tissue. You boost their ability to proliferate in the tissue. And if you apply PMF to stem cells in a test tube, they turn into tendon, muscle, ligaments and bones. So now it's just like, okay, all the benefits that we know we obtained from PMF is actually through stem cells.

• 45:51Josh Axe?

  You know, there, there's some great studies on PMF and how much faster you heal a fractured bone.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  It's your repair system.

• 45:58Josh Axe?

  It's incredible.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  So, so, so, so in answer to your questions, like the more we dig into the mechanism of action of about anything that we know speed up recovery. And you discover that somewhere it leveraged stem cells and your repair system. Red lights, HBOT, hyperbaric chamber. It boosts recovery and repair. Now there's probably not a professional athletic team, sports of any kind that don't have HBOT, you know?

• 46:24Josh Axe?

  That's right.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  For recovery. Well, we know that it boosts proliferation of stem cells in the bone marrow. So couple that with herbs that trigger the release of your own stem cells. And you've got a bomb here in terms of recovery and repair.

• 46:34Josh Axe?

  It's so powerful.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  And as, and as we keep. Digging like this, a lot of modalities leverage stem cell function.

• 46:41Josh Axe?

  Yeah, you know, one of the greatest things people can do, and as you're listening here is putting together your own stem cell protocol, really thinking through, what should my diet look like? You know, focusing on that mitochondrial biogenesis of eating pomegranates and raspberries and, and walnuts, and then, you know, getting wild caught salmon with omegas and a lot of the polyphenols that, that Christian here talked about today. Pick, pick some supplements, right? Get some supplements with some of these core ingredients that Christian talked about. Add that to your, to your regime. And then consider things like PEMF and, and generally just, you know, following some of the things we talked about for healing, because stem cells and activating your stem cells is one of the greatest things you could do for anti-aging. It's one of the hallmarks of aging.

• 47:22Josh Axe?

  If we say, hey, how can I tell how old somebody is or how young someone is? How many stem cells do they have that are in their body that are working? You know, there was a woman, they went and did this study on a woman and she was, she was like 110 years old, very old. And they found she has almost no stem cells, like, you know, it was very few. And to your point, what's interesting in Chinese medicine, they believe you have two types of stem cells. One type, which you have a limited amount of. And when you use them up, they're gone. And then there's, those are the, I think more the infantile, then you have more of the adult, but overall, it's, you know, do everything you can, as Chinese medicine talks about this. Protect the treasure. It's a form of treasure.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, so the thesis of this book that is coming is, I think we can do now meta-analysis of the scientific literature and determine that if you are below 1,000 stem cells per milliliter, you have now crossed a threshold in your resilience. Something happens to you, you won't have the repair capacity to overcome the, the challenge. If you're below 500, you're developing something, like it's happening. You just don't have enough ability to repair. So as we develop also a means of quantifying stem cells in main labs, so now you can go and see how many stem cells do I have? And it's going to be like an amazing marker, like in sports medicine. We're working on a study right now. I am convinced that the data will show that the difference between athletes who have frequent

• 48:47Speaker 01

  Injuries and they don't repair very well. They just happen to be athletes that have fewer stem cells in circulation naturally.

• 48:54Josh Axe?

  Wow.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  Uh, and so that you, that means you injure freak, you have more frequently micro lesions that don't repair. And over time, the injury happens on top of micro lesions that have not repaired.

• 49:06Josh Axe?

  And so, I mean, and so focusing on boosting stem cells, this is important, not for somebody who's just eighty and ninety years old. It's important for forty and fifty year olds. It's important for teenagers. It's important for everyone across the board.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  The problem that, that you experience at fifty and sixty started at thirty.

• 49:20Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  It just did not become clinical until later on, but it started earlier. And it's, it's driven by a deficiency of stem cells, like your gradual decline of your ability to repair. So that's the overall thesis. And coming back to a question that you had, like what can we eat for stem cells? I can split it into two, into two realms.

• 49:39Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  Number one, what affects stem cells specifically? On this one, I can only talk about the work that has been done, like in the literature, like a study.

• 49:47Josh Axe?

  Sure.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  We have, I, I was very, to me, I saw testing sea buckthorn berry as a risk. Because before sea buckthorn, nothing that I studied was tied to polyphenols. So I took, I mean, it was a risk because it's, it's expensive lab work and we found that it worked. So now I started to look at other types of polyphenols. We just finished a study, actually it's in the course, but part of a study now pointing to another polyphenol source. Uh, that, that has a great effect on stem cell release. Uh, so overall, polyphenols are great, uh, but in terms of what has been documented, it's the plants that we've talked about.

• 50:23Josh Axe?

  Yeah.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  But there's a lot of other things. Stem cell release is one part of the story. Circulation, this is where everything that is colored in your diet, uh, red cabbage, fruits, berries, all of these. They all have like strong documentation on their effect on vascular health. And vascular health is essential, like you do a blood test and you see all like DHE, everything that you want to have in your blood. It means nothing if it doesn't reach your capillaries.

• 50:48Josh Axe?

  Yep.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  It's the only place where it matters. So capillary health, all your polyphenols, uh, uh, natto kinase is great, inflammation. Curcumin, everything that suppress inflammation. Inflammation should be a localized signal telling stem cells where to go. That is the main reason why inflammation is there. When stem cells migrate, they repair, shut down the inflammation. Stem cells are probably the most potent anti-inflammatory component of the body. They get into a tissue, they suppress inflammation. You cannot heal with inflammation. When you cut yourself and it's painful after the third, let's say, third to fifth day, it's no longer painful, inflammation is going away, repair has started. So, but if you have systemic inflammation,

• 51:32Speaker 01

  that means stem cells cannot identify where the signal is coming from.

• 51:35Josh Axe?

  Right.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  So they've lost their GPS. So anything that is anti-inflammatory, all the pigments that you have in your diet, curcumin. So anti-inflammatory omega, salmon, omega three, all of that. Everything you mentioned is, may not necessarily have an effect on stem cells, but it has an effect on everything else that matters for overall stem cell function.

• 51:54Josh Axe?

  Yeah, and there's this element of both boosting your own stem cells, but also protecting them from being damaged. You want to do both simultaneously.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 52:02Josh Axe?

  Christian, I want to say thanks so much for coming on today. I've loved our conversation and I want to encourage everybody to check out all the great work Christian's doing. Christian, where can people find out more about you and your incredible work?

• 52:12Speaker 01

  On our website, stemregen.co, stemregen.co, and on social media, Stem Cell Christian.

• 52:18Josh Axe?

  Awesome. Well, Christian, thanks so much for coming on. And everybody, thank you so much for listening. If you go to the show notes here on YouTube, you can check out a Stem Cell Guide PDF we're going to give for you there for free. Also, don't forget to subscribe. It's the number one thing you could do to help support the show and help me bring on more incredible guests here like Christian today. And if you're watching on YouTube, hey, we'd love to hear from you. What is the thing that Christian said or I shared that maybe really stuck out to you about stem cells? And then are you going to go take action and start focusing on doing one thing today to support your body's own stem cell production? Thanks so much for watching. Thanks for subscribing. Thanks for sharing. We'll see you on the next episode.