Kylie on Jersey Shore Fight Scenes, Backflips at the Club & Eagles Autism Community with JWoww | Ep. 24

Get your GTL on, start fist pumping and do some backflips in the club because Kylie’s very special “Jersey Shore” AT the Jersey Shore episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Dunkin’ is officially here! Kylie is joined by iconic ‘Jersey Shore’ cast member Jenni “JWoww” Farley at The Ocean Drive Bar & Restaurant in Sea Isle City, NJ in honor of the Eagles Autism Foundation’s big Team 62 fundraising week at the shore (2:25)! Kylie and Jenni kick things off with a Jersey Shore themed edition of “Can I Be Honest” where Kylie professes her love for the TV show and Jenni defines the ten most hilarious catchphrases that she and her roommates used throughout the 15 years of the series (4:55). Kylie also asks Jenni about meeting her Seaside Heights roommates for the first time, working at the Shore Store and her first impression of Snooki (9:40). They also talk about the reality of the famous scene where Snooki gets punched and some reluctance behind the scenes about whether or not to air it (16:25). And to round out the “Jersey Shore” reminiscing, Jenni and Kylie react to and explain some of the funniest clips from the show in Doomscroll of the Week (22:28). Speaking of…“Where’s the beach???” Then, Kylie and Jenni talk about being moms who swear, as well as the rule Jenni and Nicole (Snooki) have when it comes to offering someone else motherhood advice (31:45). They also discuss their personal struggles with postpartum depression and psychosis, a topic Jenni is focusing her new film “Nanny Cam” on (35:36). After that, Kylie and Jenni bond over their mutual involvement and personal connections within the autism community, specifically with the Eagles Autism Foundation and KultureCity organization (41:20). Jenni opens up about her son’s autism diagnosis, her advice for any parents going through the process and the importance of sensory rooms and activities for kids on the spectrum (48:12). We hope our NGL Real Ones will consider supporting The Eagles Autism Foundation this week and are inspired to get involved in the autism community through volunteer efforts, raising awareness and fundraising. Here is the link to donate to EAF! https://haku.ly/d63ce68151 And make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for more exclusive clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with JWoww! . . . Donate to the Eagles Autism Foundation! https://haku.ly/d63ce68151 Support NGL: Dunkin’: This summer, head to Dunkin’ to build your Refresher, your way— mix and match your favorite flavors and mixers to craft the perfect sip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:58Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, if you want to catch me at the Ocean Drive in CIO City, New Jersey, you're gonna have to catch me at 7:30 because I'm gonna be on that dance floor, enjoying the air conditioning by myself, listening to my throwbacks. Let's get this podcast started.

• 1:18Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome to a very special Jersey Shore, at the Jersey Shore edition of Not Gonna Lie. I'm so excited right now. It's a Wave original brought to you by Dunkin'. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, a beach wagon puller, an amateur boogie boarder, and I've been a fan of the woman sitting next to me right now for 15 years. And so have all of you. You know her from the phenomenon that is the show Jersey Shore. She and the whole cast enrich our lives and vocabularies with phrases like GTL and "the cabs are here." Now she's also a mom and doing incredible work on behalf of the autism community, and she officially is here. And she's not gonna lie, it's Jenny, J. Welfarley. Welcome to the show.

• 2:03Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my God, what is this? I'm so excited to have you. And it's perfect because we are at the Jersey Shore. We are.

• 2:11Speaker 03

  And it's 100 degrees out.

• 2:13Kylie Kelce?

  It is very warm. If you see me wiping my brow or my upper lip. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I'm so excited to have you here. It's such a timely lineup. For what we, for what we are doing here. And then also like drag you back to the Jersey Shore to talk to you about the last 15 years of your life and how it was. I mean, perfection from.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  Blacked out mostly.

• 2:39Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, getting to watch everything with the Jersey Shore.

• 2:43Speaker 03

  Oh, I thank you.

• 2:44Kylie Kelce?

  Is just like, it's a comfort thing. I am not a reality TV person.

• 2:49Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:50Kylie Kelce?

  Um, it's the only show that I watched religiously.

• 2:54Speaker 03

  Are we best friends right now?

• 2:56Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  I'm getting comfy.

• 2:57Kylie Kelce?

  For multiple reasons. Um, now, as the real ones can see, we're taping the show from the most gorgeous bar at the Jersey Shore. This is the Ocean Drive. We have our guest bartending event here. All of the proceeds for that event go back to the Eagles Autism Foundation. Uh, Jenny, as a Jersey Shore icon yourself, um, have you been to the OD before?

• 3:20Speaker 03

  I actually haven't been down here ever. I have to say.

• 3:25Kylie Kelce?

  We dragged you from the North Jersey Shores.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  But, you know, living in Jersey and being in the northern parts of the Jersey Shore, I never thought that I needed to come down here. Like, I did, like, Cape May one day or Wildwood for, like, my son's jujitsu tournament, but I never, like, stayed here. Sea Isle, Ocean City.

• 3:44Kylie Kelce?

  The beach.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  Not once. Don't really like the beach, but I have to say, I have to give it. I was at the beach yesterday with my kids. I stayed in a hotel, so I didn't have to get in the vehicle. I borrowed chairs and towels.

• 3:55Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  Best time of my life.

• 3:58Kylie Kelce?

  Done.

• 3:58Speaker 03

  Done. I didn't have to bring the sand with me. I don't have sand on me today. Zach has the kids at the beach this morning. It's been a great 24 hours. I have to give it to you. If it wasn't for this, I wouldn't be here.

• 4:10Kylie Kelce?

  I will say, a friend of mine in college took me to Seaside Heights because that is the shore point that she went to growing up. And I think there is a little bit of confusion between what we experienced down here is the Jersey Shore. This is the Jersey Shore I grew up coming to.

• 4:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 4:29Kylie Kelce?

  And what you guys were opening up the world's eyes to.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  Trash.

• 4:35Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, it seemed like a good time.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  Best way.

• 4:39Kylie Kelce?

  How would you describe the difference between like, like the OD? How does it compare to Karma?

• 4:48Speaker 03

  Well, unfortunately, there is no comparison, but the OD is beautiful. I would say, actually, like, we had a vibe like this, like an outdoor.

• 4:55Kylie Kelce?

  Was there an outdoor section of Karma?

• 4:57Speaker 03

  There was.

• 4:58Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  It's where I punched that girl in the face. It was a good time to be alive. It was fond memories. There, yeah, a lot of fights went down. They did not have sand.

• 5:12Kylie Kelce?

  Gotcha.

• 5:13Speaker 03

  So this is more.

• 5:13Kylie Kelce?

  You probably preferred that.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  I would say, well, back then I blacked out. I didn't care.

• 5:18Kylie Kelce?

  Well, I figured we could kick things off with a very, very special edition of a segment we do here called, Can I Be Honest? And today, of course, we're gonna get honest about your show, Jersey Shore. And like I said, the real ones know that I've watched very little reality TV in my life, but the Jersey Shore is the exception. I still remember my sister and I would watch it and then we would continue to quote it for the rest of the week, because why not? Now, before we go any further, I realize that not everyone watching is a millennial who watched every episode like me. So to help them follow our conversation, I was hoping you could define some of the most iconic terms and catchphrases from the show. So we're gonna do rapid fire style.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 6:03Kylie Kelce?

  First one, GTL.

• 6:05Speaker 03

  Gym tan laundry.

• 6:07Kylie Kelce?

  And there was a little bit of confusion. The gym, the tan and the laundry are as clear as it is, right? It was literally just going to the gym.

• 6:16Speaker 03

  Every morning.

• 6:16Kylie Kelce?

  Going to get tan.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  Right after.

• 6:19Kylie Kelce?

  And doing your laundry.

• 6:19Speaker 03

  And dropping the laundry up and then picking it up the next day when we were already back going to the gym and going tanning. It was a way of life.

• 6:28Kylie Kelce?

  It, it was so impressive. It was so impressive. Number two, meatball.

• 6:34Speaker 03

  Oh, those are my meatballs, my babies. It's Nicole and Dina, shorter. We're not.

• 6:41Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 6:41Speaker 03

  We would be considered the sausage, so I was a sausage to their meatballs. Sure. And they just didn't break. They're like Gumby.

• 6:50Kylie Kelce?

  Yep.

• 6:50Speaker 03

  So they were little meatballs that ran around and got drunk all day.

• 6:53Kylie Kelce?

  I love it. Number three, smush.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  Sexuals. I don't know how else to say it.

• 7:00Kylie Kelce?

  Number four, Jew's head or gorilla?

• 7:03Speaker 03

  Um, mostly a tatted up muscle man on the beach.

• 7:08Kylie Kelce?

  Yep, I remember, I remember everyone hunting for a gorilla of their own.

• 7:12Speaker 03

  Always me.

• 7:13Kylie Kelce?

  Number five, T-shirt time.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  Oh, so there was, it's a two-part. There's the shirt before the shirt.

• 7:20Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 7:21Speaker 03

  And we're actually experiencing that right now.

• 7:23Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 7:23Speaker 03

  Because when you're in the summer.

• 7:24Kylie Kelce?

  This could be a shirt before the shirt.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 7:26Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  And then right before you go to the club, right before we leave, you put the shirt on. And that's T-shirt time.

• 7:33Kylie Kelce?

  You're fresh.

• 7:33Speaker 03

  And then you walk out.

• 7:34Kylie Kelce?

  You're fresh, you're ready to go.

• 7:36Speaker 03

  Which leads to fresh to death.

• 7:38Kylie Kelce?

  It does. Number six, FTD.

• 7:41Speaker 03

  Fresh to death, FTD. Wow, you're bringing back like memory lane now.

• 7:46Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, perfect. Number six, fist pump. Actually, I think it would be number seven now because I did fill the other ones. So number seven, fist pump.

• 7:53Speaker 03

  There is a fist pump, which, so I will say this, I am very disappointed in the new generation. They don't dance like we used to. They kind of sit around on their cell phones and do their own thing. But back in the day, at least my day and your day, people danced at nightclubs. They fist pumped, they frolicked, they just, they were all over the place. We did backflips, we didn't care. Our kookas were showing.

• 8:20Kylie Kelce?

  That might bring us to, to number eight, Jersey turnpiking.

• 8:24Speaker 03

  We Jersey turnpike, which is, um, twerking, I guess, as you younger kids say.

• 8:30Kylie Kelce?

  Specifically, my understanding of it was, and you can correct me if I'm wrong here, but specifically you would be bent fully over, like almost touching the floor. Is that right?

• 8:39Speaker 03

  Like a triangle.

• 8:40Kylie Kelce?

  Right?

• 8:40Speaker 03

  Yes, it was always, Dina did a phenomenal job. She would touch her toes, ass straight in the air. And she would just make it jiggle. She has the best ass.

• 8:51Kylie Kelce?

  Outsting.

• 8:51Speaker 03

  Am I allowed to say that?

• 8:52Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, a thousand percent. Oh, we are very in on cursing around here. Number nine, the poof.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Oh, that was Nicole's signature hair. It was like a little claw clip in the front.

• 9:04Kylie Kelce?

  You know what's funny? It's coming back.

• 9:06Speaker 03

  I see that.

• 9:07Kylie Kelce?

  And I saw it, and it was called something else. And I was like, oh, excuse me.

• 9:11Speaker 03

  Isn't that the worst?

• 9:13Kylie Kelce?

  It's funny when it comes back around.

• 9:15Speaker 03

  And it's called something else.

• 9:16Kylie Kelce?

  I just want to be clear to all of our younger listeners, Snooki did that.

• 9:21Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 9:22Kylie Kelce?

  Nicole did that. She, she walked so you could run, okay? And she was crushing it.

• 9:29Speaker 03

  Crushed it.

• 9:29Kylie Kelce?

  She would get it so, so high. It was, it was outstanding. Uh, number nine, cabs are here.

• 9:39Speaker 03

  Okay, so before Uber and Lyft and all these fancy apps, we would physically have to call, get an appointment. Like, you'd be like, we need a cab in like 20 minutes. Wait. And then when we would hear the double honk, Paulie would yell, cabs are here.

• 9:54Kylie Kelce?

  I love it so much.

• 9:56Speaker 03

  Kids don't even know what a cab is.

• 9:57Kylie Kelce?

  No, they do not.

• 9:58Speaker 03

  Not even, no.

• 9:59Kylie Kelce?

  I don't even know how many cab companies still even exist.

• 10:02Speaker 03

  When I see them, I get sad, because I'm like, you're holding on by a thread.

• 10:08Kylie Kelce?

  Then the cab rolls by and you see the little Uber light up in the back. You could sponsor us, Uber, come on. Uh, did I miss any terms?

• 10:16Speaker 03

  I don't think so. You got the good ones.

• 10:18Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect. I think everyone should be up to speed now. Uh, now, I'd love to start at the beginning. What was your first impression of everybody?

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Nicole swears that like I did what I did, and I, I swear that it was a camera edits when like I looked at her. It was like, ugh. Um, but she came in loud. She came in, she came in loud. Uh, and I love loud people, but she was a lot. I was like, there's, I called her a rabid chihuahua. I was like, you are just very rabid. You're a lot. I thought the boys were dumb as a box of rocks. I love them to death, but I, I was like, what is this?

• 10:55Kylie Kelce?

  I think the best part about it is, is that you guys... Like got to where you are now because people saw you guys being like hilarious.

• 11:05Speaker 03

  Just us.

• 11:06Kylie Kelce?

  Ridiculous. But you guys.

• 11:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:09Kylie Kelce?

  Were so like true to yourselves in like enjoying life at the Jersey Shore.

• 11:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:15Kylie Kelce?

  That people were like, I want to watch this.

• 11:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it was twofold too. I think truthfully, and I'm not even saying this to like make people laugh. Like we look like creatures of the night. If you were from Ohio, you didn't know what we look like. You didn't know this existed. You didn't know like there were.

• 11:32Kylie Kelce?

  Well, that that was one of the craziest things about going to Seaside Heights myself and getting the confirmation.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:38Kylie Kelce?

  That.

• 11:39Speaker 03

  We exist.

• 11:40Kylie Kelce?

  Because.

• 11:41Speaker 03

  It's normal.

• 11:41Kylie Kelce?

  Because this is what I grew up with. I grew up South Jersey Shore. For people who don't know, it's very different from the North Jersey Shore points, specifically Seaside Heights.

• 11:50Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 11:50Kylie Kelce?

  And so when people were like, oh, it's a, it's, it's a show about the Jersey Shore. I'm like, not the one I went to.

• 11:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. So we were more of like the party sector. We were more of like the daytime partying, work at the shore. You know, we did work at the T-shirt shop. He paid us like eight dollars an hour. Rude, by the way. And we lived, eat and breathe the shore.

• 12:16Kylie Kelce?

  When did you meet the roommates for the first time?

• 12:19Speaker 03

  That day. You see it in real time. We all left the hotel separately. We got in a, um, in our cars with a producer. The producer gave us a MapQuest printout and said, drive here. So we drove over the bridge and you see it all happen in real time. Like we meet them in real time. We meet the house. Like we walked in and we were like, what are we doing? And then as the dust settled, Danny walked in and was like, you're going to be working at my shore store. And I don't work. What?

• 12:54Speaker 03

  I'm here to work. I'm here to party. What do you mean? He's like, if you want to party, you have to work. And that was the deal.

• 12:59Kylie Kelce?

  I do think that that was one of the. One of the craziest parameters of the show that you guys had to stay working at the T-shirt shop.

• 13:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:07Kylie Kelce?

  To be able to stay in the house.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  Or you would get fired and leave like Angelina did. Like that was, they were dead ass with that part.

• 13:14Kylie Kelce?

  I love that.

• 13:15Speaker 03

  And we didn't make any money except for what we made on the, at the shore store. So the first season, I probably walked away with like $400.

• 13:24Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my gosh.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  And I worked in the Long Island nightclub industry. Like I was like making really good money. And because I wasn't able to tell them if I got hired for the show or not, I like lost all my jobs. I like turned my cell phone back on. I checked my voice messages. They're like, you're fired because you didn't show up to like some of the biggest parties. So when I left the show, I left jobless, broke, fired, and regretting everything. I was like, I had a great life in Long Island.

• 13:54Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my gosh.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  Because we also didn't know the show would be successful, right? So at that point, we were just like, see you later.

• 14:00Kylie Kelce?

  Cause when you were finished filming, how long after you were finished filming, did the show air?

• 14:05Speaker 03

  Three months.

• 14:06Kylie Kelce?

  Oof, three months for $400 for three months?

• 14:09Speaker 03

  And I couldn't get a job back. So I ended up working in finance temporarily, like mortgages. And being like, I'm gonna have to go home to my dad. I'm gonna have to like drop out of school. I can't afford it. I had really good like job security that I walked away from. I had all these regrets and like all this like overwhelming feeling. I remember being in my kitchen and like borrowing money from my girlfriend and being like, that's it. I'm not taking any more money from anybody. And then I hear this obnoxious voice on TV and I'm like, that's me. And I look in, I'm dead. I'll never forget this. I was in the kitchen. I was like, the fuck, that's what I sound like? And I hit the corner and I see a commercial.

• 14:53Kylie Kelce?

  For the Jersey.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  For the Jersey Shore. See me. And then like 13 minutes later, MTV calls me. And they're like, hi, just so you know, we're like a rep from MTV. Yeah. If you need anything, call us. This is uh, the name of your show. I'm like, yeah, I just saw it. Thank you for now telling me.

• 15:12Kylie Kelce?

  Information.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  Cause we didn't know what it was gonna be called, anything. We had no idea. And.

• 15:18Kylie Kelce?

  That's such a, like a trust exercise.

• 15:20Speaker 03

  And I don't do those.

• 15:21Kylie Kelce?

  Here's all of your, here's all my stuff. Hotel for a week. End up in a house. Leave with $400 and no job. Like that is. You were, you were investing in yourself. I like that.

• 15:33Speaker 03

  Thank you. I took a risk and I'm not a risk taker. I don't do those things.

• 15:37Kylie Kelce?

  It was meant to be.

• 15:38Speaker 03

  I, I has, like, I can't, I can't think of it any other way. Because my personality is like, what's worst case scenario? And every worst case scenario, every red flag was like right there. And I was like, okay, I'll still do it.

• 15:53Kylie Kelce?

  You, it's like, I could end up in a ditch, but I could also end up on a really cool TV show. Making a lot of money. So, I mean, it all worked out. Jersey Shore might also be one of the most quotable TV shows of all time. Do you have a favorite line of yours? Because my favorite.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  Stay and get your ass beat?

• 16:14Kylie Kelce?

  Or, you can stay and get your fucking ass beat. I mean, is there a better quote?

• 16:21Speaker 03

  I don't think so.

• 16:22Kylie Kelce?

  That is just, and, and how, to be clear, I, how many times did you say it?

• 16:29Speaker 03

  I don't know. I don't know what I was doing. I was so angry.

• 16:33Kylie Kelce?

  It was so good.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  So, you have to understand, that season in particular, I really wish they sold more episodes. We could have made at least 25, 30. They only allowed like eight or 10, but we stayed there for two months. Two months trying to living with someone, no cellphone, internet, no TV, no pens, papers, magazines. At any point in anyone's life, you would tell someone next to you, if you stay, I will literally beat your ass. Like, you need to leave. So I probably said it way more. I was over it. She left. Here we are. We're friends now.

• 17:10Kylie Kelce?

  It was such a good, I mean, if you have not seen that clip.

• 17:14Speaker 03

  You wanna get your [BLEEP] beat, you get your [BLEEP] beat. You can stay and get your [BLEEP] beat. You can stay and get your [BLEEP] ass beat.

• 17:21Kylie Kelce?

  You can stay and get your ass beat, or you can stay and get your fucking ass beat. I mean, just top tier television, people.

• 17:28Kylie Kelce?

  Forget all the nonsense that's happening right now. The new reality TV does not hold a candle to you can say and get your ass beat or you can say and get your

• 17:35Speaker 03

  I appreciate that.

• 17:36Kylie Kelce?

  It's outstanding. I also don't know if you you realize it since you were in it, but the way the anticipation for the episode where Snooki gets punched.

• 17:45Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 17:46Kylie Kelce?

  United all of us. We were on the edge of our seats waiting for that. That happened pretty early in the show. What was it like seeing the fan reaction and how it sort of like elicited this just absolutely?

• 17:58Speaker 03

  I got goosebumps.

• 17:59Kylie Kelce?

  Bananas, right?

• 18:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I would say that was a huge, that was a pivotal moment in our show because at that time, I think Nicole wanted to leave. She didn't feel like we were taking her serious because she came in very party-esque, like 21. She was a baby, right? And we were GTL, Gym Tan Laundry. So we were like, party two days a week. She's like, let's party all seven. So it was this disconnect, but we all liked her. But that day I realized, wow, I like, I love her. And if you watch that clip back and it's super quick because even though they played it for its entirety, a lot of backlash actually occurred originally.

• 18:44Speaker 03

  And I love MTV for this and I love 495 Productions for this and I stand by them. So when that happened in the bar, because the guy took our shots and Nicole was like defending us, he punched her. I remember her dropping to the floor off like the bench, which is high up, making sure she was okay, dropping my purse and just started wailing on him as hard and as fast as I could. And in that like 13 seconds, the police show up, the boardwalk police and grabbed him and I ran back to her because I really thought he broke two of her teeth like. And she was bleeding and it was a mess, but she was perfectly fine. I was like, thank God. But we had this meeting and I was with her in the ambulance till like eight o'clock the

• 19:29Speaker 03

  next morning, making sure she was okay. And people really thought they weren't going to air it. They weren't going to show it and. I remember sitting with people and saying, and the higher ups like, why are we protecting him?

• 19:43Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 19:44Speaker 03

  Like, I get that it's like never been done or never been seen on TV and no woman is ever asked to get punched by a man, but he did that.

• 19:53Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  And why are we gonna protect him?

• 19:55Kylie Kelce?

  Mm-hmm.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  So they aired the commercial and they aired it blacked out. And the rage that went across America defending him.

• 20:06Kylie Kelce?

  Really?

• 20:07Speaker 03

  Not like, I don't even wanna say defending him, but being shocked at the audacity of MTV airing it, rather than the audacity of the man doing it. Do you, you know what I mean?

• 20:19Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 20:19Speaker 03

  How dare you air that? How dare we air like something so crazy and trashy and, and but we're like, how dare he do that?

• 20:30Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 20:30Speaker 03

  Like, we're just-

• 20:31Kylie Kelce?

  He's the one that swung.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  Yes, we're just airing the reality of what happened. Nobody ever asked for that to happen. We sure as hell didn't think it was gonna happen. Um, and that's when I remember Sally Ann, our owner of our company, being like, no, we're doubling down. We're airing this. And we're airing it in its entirety. And we're standing by the fact that like, this is not okay and we're not protecting him. Because if we don't air it, we protect him.

• 20:56Kylie Kelce?

  That's right.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  And Nicole is left with getting hit and, and people just wondering why for like the good chunk of the rest of the season, she's got this like baseball knot on her face. So I'm super proud of like, our production and MTV really like-

• 21:14Kylie Kelce?

  Doubling down.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, just, it, it really blew my mind that like, that, that was even a conversation. And if you look back at the old, uh, seasons, sometimes you'll see the blacked out version. Like, they still sometimes won't show it.

• 21:29Kylie Kelce?

  That's so interesting.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:33Kylie Kelce?

  I do love that they doubled down, though.

• 21:35Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 21:36Kylie Kelce?

  And this is how I know I was hanging out with the right people because we were all like, "How dare he."

• 21:41Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 21:42Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, no, I felt that strongly.

• 21:43Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 21:44Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, that's, that means if we had algorithms back then, mine would have been right.

• 21:49Speaker 03

  And it's still like an oh shit moment and it's still, but like I think a lot of conservative people, a lot of boomers at the time, older millennials were more insulted at the fact like, "Oh, how dare you air that."

• 22:01Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 22:01Speaker 03

  But it's like, that happens.

• 22:03Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  And I feel like when we bring attention to things like that, that's how we can make it stop.

• 22:08Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely.

• 22:09Speaker 03

  If we're going deeper.

• 22:10Kylie Kelce?

  No, that, yeah.

• 22:11Speaker 03

  Protecting people.

• 22:13Kylie Kelce?

  And that was ahead of its time.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, this was 2009, like December, very, uh, I don't remember ever seeing anything like that on television.

• 22:23Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely. Look at us, having a great time at the OD, laughing, talking about one of the best shows in history, Jersey Shore, and of course, sipping on Dunkin's finest. The real ones know, I'm a butter pecan iced coffee kind of gal, but recently my eyes have been opened. Yes, this is a mango pineapple refresher with a green tea base. One of the best parts about Dunkin's refreshers is that you can customize your order right on the Dunkin' app by choosing your favorite flavors and drink bases. I also got a chance to try a few other flavors, strawberry dragon fruit and tropical guava, which were also delicious. And you can pick your mixer. That means they can be made however you want.

• 23:07Kylie Kelce?

  And I encourage you to try a bunch of different concoctions. Refreshers can be made with green tea, lemonade, sparkling water, water, oat milk, or black tea. The options, kind of endless. This summer, head to Dunkin' to build your refresher your way. Mix and match your favorite flavors and mixers to craft the perfect sip.

• 23:26Speaker 00

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• 23:53Kylie Kelce?

  Before we move on from Jersey Shore, we do another segment on Not Gonna Lie Here called Doom Scroll of the Week. We explain a TikTok or watch a TikTok and then really we pick it apart.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 24:06Kylie Kelce?

  Because right now I'll doom scroll when I'm feeding. I'll doom scroll like when I get in bed at night, which everybody says is bad for you, but like, whatever. I'm enjoying myself. Thank you. So I thought since we have you here, we could do a Jersey Shore edition of Doom Scroll, where we can react to some of the most viral clips that popped up on my For You page. First up, Nicole couldn't find... By the way, Nicole is Snooki, Snooki is Nicole. If we cross over here, I feel like we should clarify that. Nicole is now a grown ass woman and she's Nicole, but she was Snooki and it was great. First up, Snooki couldn't find the beach and then she got arrested. Roll the clip, Queen Emma.

• 24:53Speaker 04

  Where's the beach?

• 24:56Kylie Kelce?

  It's so good.

• 24:57Speaker 04

  Oh my God, I'm going to the beach so bad. Love you, bye.

• 25:01Kylie Kelce?

  I want to go to the beach so bad, is what she said.

• 25:02Speaker 03

  Three for all.

• 25:04Speaker 04

  Nicole!

• 25:04Kylie Kelce?

  Look at you.

• 25:05Speaker 03

  It's too early for this [BLEEP].

• 25:07Kylie Kelce?

  My number one main concern right now is getting Nicole to the beach before she gets in trouble. I'm a good person.

• 25:12Speaker 04

  Come on, Nicole. This is a good time. You don't want to go in the water where you're... Give me your purse!

• 25:18Kylie Kelce?

  There's so much more to that. I would love to point out that she had the massive sunglasses on, which nowadays, well, maybe I might be a little behind on this trend, but people would say they're blocking out the haters, okay?

• 25:30Speaker 03

  Yes, they're blocking it all out.

• 25:32Kylie Kelce?

  What led to that?

• 25:34Speaker 03

  A lot of drinking. So we always had this, I don't know what went wrong, but that day, I shouldn't, I should have known better. But we always had, you have to go somewhere with a partner. It's a buddy system.

• 25:48Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 25:48Speaker 03

  Just for cameras and moving, buddy system. But everyone was dead tired and Nicole really wanted a day drink. So production was like, alright, you can go by yourself. Never do that again. She got blacked out on a day like this. And I have to say, where's the beach? She knew where the beach was.

• 26:08Kylie Kelce?

  She meant the entrance to the beach.

• 26:10Speaker 03

  The entrance in Jersey is like a, you have to pay at a booth and you have to like get a slip or whatever and she was, the poor girl was just trying to find the entrance. And then we all had to double down and try and stop her from going in the ocean because of her mic pack, which was very valuable back in the day. And we did not have a lot of those.

• 26:32Kylie Kelce?

  We could not order them on Amazon.

• 26:33Speaker 03

  Yes. And all I heard was sounds freaking out her mic pack, her mic pack. So I'm running on the beach, then Dina, then Sammy, I don't know who else. I was like seeing friends down the shore, being like, is that Jenny chasing her meatball? And all hands on deck. And I actually believe the police that were like tailing us to protect us were like, yeah, we gotta arrest you. You're a public nuisance. And that's what I think she got arrested for.

• 27:04Kylie Kelce?

  So it was actually police that was sent with you guys. That was eventually like, we gotta call it somewhere. And this is the threshold.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  Do an aerial shot or like a wide in view of that. And you can find them on the internet. No joke, at least 3,000 people were swarming us. If nobody realizes it, but if you expand the shot and get like a paparazzi view, three or 4,000 people were like surrounding us in a circle.

• 27:31Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, God. All right. Next up, Paulie D. Got mad. This is one of this.

• 27:36Speaker 05

  I heard that you guys are mad at me, but I ain't doing things.

• 27:41Speaker 04

  Paulie.

• 27:41Speaker 05

  So I'm mad at you for being mad at me for no reason. So try and talk to me. I'm mad.

• 27:49Speaker 05

  Piss.

• 27:52Speaker 03

  I have no idea what that even it was about, but I'm sure we said something like, oh, we're mad at him. And he has such a great sense of humor to like, turn it around.

• 28:02Kylie Kelce?

  It was, it was so good. How do you not break? When he's like, I'm mad at you for being mad. I'd so, I mean, it's amazing.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  It was the original gaslighter.

• 28:11Kylie Kelce?

  It was perfect. It was perfect. He also had to deal with a stage five clinger.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  Yes, it was, he was going through a lot.

• 28:19Speaker 05

  You stalked my whole life on the boardwalk.

• 28:20Kylie Kelce?

  There's the duck phone. For anyone watching, that is the duck phone.

• 28:24Speaker 05

  I had every intention of calling you, but you had already called and you said it wasn't a call. So you stalked my whole life on the boardwalk. It's my turn to talk.

• 28:30Kylie Kelce?

  It's my turn to talk.

• 28:32Speaker 05

  You stalked my whole entire life, right? And I don't like that. I do nothing wrong.

• 28:36Kylie Kelce?

  I feel like I've taken notes from this. When I talk to my own kids, it's my turn to talk. It's my turn to talk.

• 28:43Speaker 03

  I've learned that too from him.

• 28:44Kylie Kelce?

  Right?

• 28:45Speaker 03

  Is it my turn? Is it my turn? Yep.

• 28:47Kylie Kelce?

  So good.

• 28:48Speaker 03

  He's great. That was great.

• 28:49Kylie Kelce?

  And just to be clear, the duck phone, perfection. That's, it shows up so many times in, first of all, it quacked, guys. It quacked as the ringer, okay?

• 28:59Speaker 03

  But it also was terrible. Like, nobody understands landlines like we did, but like, trying to hear there was an echo. So we were like, huh?

• 29:07Kylie Kelce?

  Is that because of recording devices in the phone?

• 29:09Speaker 03

  It could have been, or it could have been that.

• 29:11Kylie Kelce?

  It could have just been the duck phone.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  I'm like.

• 29:14Kylie Kelce?

  It could have been echoing in the, in the duck's head. It's fine. But the duck quacked, and it was how you guys called the cab company.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 29:22Kylie Kelce?

  It was the only way that outside people could reach you, right? So like, it was, it was kind of its own character on the show.

• 29:28Speaker 03

  It was the ninth cast member, for sure.

• 29:30Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect. And lastly, I just saw this outstanding clip that you posted of your daughter rating your outfits from your original Jersey Shore era. Queen Emma.

• 29:40Speaker 06

  Part two of rating my mom outfit.

• 29:43Kylie Kelce?

  Part two.

• 29:44Speaker 03

  This kid.

• 29:46Speaker 06

  It's like a six out of 10. Like, no, no. Like a five out of 10. This, I don't know what it's giving. It's giving Barney the dinosaur.

• 29:55Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my god.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  It's giving Barney the dinosaur.

• 29:59Kylie Kelce?

  Just wait.

• 30:00Speaker 06

  Let's move on to the next one.

• 30:02Kylie Kelce?

  Just wait. It's so good. What, what, what else was she, what, what, look, did you enjoy that she roasted?

• 30:12Speaker 03

  She hates all my outfits.

• 30:13Kylie Kelce?

  Does she?

• 30:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:15Kylie Kelce?

  To this day?

• 30:15Speaker 03

  To this day. She calls me, and I don't know if it's a good thing or not, but it just aired on Family Vacation. She called me Y2K. She's like, you're looking Y2K.

• 30:25Kylie Kelce?

  I saw this.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  What does that mean? And how do you even know what that is?

• 30:29Kylie Kelce?

  Is that what the kids are saying now? Is that to call us old?

• 30:32Speaker 03

  Is that like what we called our parents hippies?

• 30:37Speaker 03

  You know what I mean?

• 30:38Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  Because that's like the timeframe. Twenty, thirty years ago. Like, I don't know how to feel about this. Y2K.

• 30:45Kylie Kelce?

  But eventually, all these things are gonna come back around.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  I already said that to her.

• 30:48Kylie Kelce?

  The low-rise jeans are here.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  She wanted an Aaliyah shirt the other day. I'm like, do you even know who Aaliyah is? No, but it's cool. Okay. Then she goes, Mom, I want Tupac. I said, Do you mean Tupac?

• 31:00Kylie Kelce?

  When you learn how to pronounce that, you can have a Tupac shirt.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 31:04Kylie Kelce?

  My goodness, that does it for doom scroll. Now, since we're talking about your daughter, I'd love to ask you more about motherhood and parenting.

• 31:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:11Kylie Kelce?

  First of all, I will say, how old are your kids now?

• 31:15Speaker 03

  She's turning eleven, he just turned nine.

• 31:17Kylie Kelce?

  And I just saw a clip, again, on my,

• 31:23Kylie Kelce?

  on my trip down memory lane, of your daughter when you were doing, I believe it was your YouTube series with Nicole.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  Oh, yes.

• 31:34Kylie Kelce?

  And she said,

• 31:38Kylie Kelce?

  What?

• 31:41Kylie Kelce?

  What did you just say? And your reaction was perfect. And Nicole leaned over and was like, I use it. What? What'd you just say?

• 31:50Speaker 03

  You're not supposed to react.

• 31:51Kylie Kelce?

  And you walked away and you were like laughing behind her head. And Nicole is there like, what'd you say? Say it again. What? I assume that means that you curse in your household?

• 32:02Speaker 03

  A little bit.

• 32:03Kylie Kelce?

  We're big fans of that here.

• 32:04Speaker 03

  A little bit, yeah. I feel like, and listen, I'm-

• 32:07Kylie Kelce?

  To be fair, she used it correctly.

• 32:09Speaker 03

  She did use it correctly. I was actually more impressed with the fact that she used it correctly than the fact that she said it. But I don't know how to parent. I don't know if you know how to parent.

• 32:17Kylie Kelce?

  No, wing it.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, you figure it out. And I thought that if I start swearing early on, that it won't be such a-

• 32:24Kylie Kelce?

  It desensitizes them.

• 32:25Speaker 03

  Yes, you desensitize, you get them over the hump. And then they're just like, oh, whatever, I hear that every day. Because I did have that kid one day in my car before I had kids. That I brought a bunch of my friends' kids to Subway. I brought three of them. And I'll never forget it. One of them just dropped the F-bomb in the middle of the car. And the other two were like, "Oh, you can't say that." And then she's, the boy was like, "Yeah, you can." And then she's like, "I can say fuck." And then it became this whole thing in my car. And I was like, "I'm ruined. My friends are gonna hate me forever because their kids all dropped..."

• 32:57Kylie Kelce?

  You returned the kid cursing.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 32:59Kylie Kelce?

  The kid left not cursing and you returned them, oh.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  It was such a humbling moment. And then I realized, well, I just gotta curse. Like, that's just my thing. Like, if I start cursing right away, then the kids... So now that I curse, and my son just said it to me this morning, because I was saying something under my breath. He goes, "You shouldn't be cursing. You're better than that." I'm like, so now I got the reverse. I got the kids that don't want me to curse.

• 33:23Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 33:24Speaker 03

  But I know, I know them. I see them, and I see my son playing his video games. They curse.

• 33:29Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  Under their breath, behind the scenes.

• 33:32Kylie Kelce?

  But they, when they say it correctly, it's always a moment where you're like, "You know that." I can't tell you know that.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I gotta walk away.

• 33:40Kylie Kelce?

  Yep.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  But I'm proud.

• 33:41Kylie Kelce?

  God, that was so good. Um, I heard you say in another podcast interview that you've gone to Nicole for motherhood advice over the years.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 33:49Kylie Kelce?

  What's the best piece of motherhood advice that you've gotten from her?

• 33:53Speaker 03

  So, our mantra is, we don't give mother advice unless someone asks for it. Because there is nothing worse than somebody giving unwanted parenting advice.

• 34:10Kylie Kelce?

  I love that.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  Yes. So, my girlfriend Sammy on the show is pregnant right now. And everyone's always like, "What are you gonna give her advice? When are you gonna give her advice?" I'm like, "I'm not. She'll figure it out." But if she wants advice.

• 34:22Kylie Kelce?

  Yep.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  I will be there for her every step of the way. I will tell her what I did in that specific situation, which might be different than hers. But I will never give a mom unwanted advice. Because... It takes a village, first off. Um, and also, nobody's fucking perfect. Everybody's winging it, and as long as you're trying to keep your fucking kid alive.

• 34:47Kylie Kelce?

  Yup.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  That's it. You're, you're doing great, sweetie.

• 34:50Kylie Kelce?

  That's it. I said, there are some days where we get into bed at night and I'm like, everyone is in their bed, in clean clothes, and, and alive. They're, they're alive.

• 34:59Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 35:00Kylie Kelce?

  We're calling it a win.

• 35:01Speaker 03

  Yes, that's a win.

• 35:03Kylie Kelce?

  And also, I, I always like to point out, when people ask me for advice now, because I'm four deep, I'm like, first of all, I, I'm five and under. I can't tell you anything over five right now. And also, every single one of our kids are so different. That if I gave you advice that applied to our first, it wouldn't have worked for our second.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Hundred percent.

• 35:24Kylie Kelce?

  And so, the, the idea of people giving that unsolicited advice, you're like, can you put a cork in it?

• 35:30Speaker 03

  To me, it's condescending and it's, you're projecting. Because to me, I'm like, why are you giving that to me? I don't want it. And you're just trying to say a situation that happened in your life that's not currently happening in mine.

• 35:42Kylie Kelce?

  Yup.

• 35:42Speaker 03

  Like you just said, you have four girls, under five, all different, all in the same house. I have a son with autism, I have a daughter who's highly emotional. I can't even give the same advice for...

• 35:53Kylie Kelce?

  In your own house.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  In my own house, because I have two different completely parenting styles when it comes to them.

• 35:57Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  So, the fuck kind of advice am I gonna give? Holding on by a thread. It gets better, it doesn't. Sorry.

• 36:06Kylie Kelce?

  It, it doesn't.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  My heart is turning eleven.

• 36:08Kylie Kelce?

  I know that.

• 36:09Speaker 03

  It gets different. It doesn't get better, it just gets different.

• 36:12Kylie Kelce?

  It, it has its, a new set of challenges, every phase.

• 36:16Speaker 03

  God.

• 36:16Kylie Kelce?

  Yup. Lovely. And now, for the season two premiere of your favorite Duncan soap opera, The Duncan Chronicles. The role of Kylie will be played by...

• 36:27Speaker 03

  Me.

• 36:27Kylie Kelce?

  The stage directions read by our queen, Queen Emma. Action.

• 36:35Speaker 07

  Duncan, Ardmore, Pennsylvania, October 2019. Kylie walks into her neighborhood Duncan and is clearly nine months pregnant and ecstatic about it.

• 36:44Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, being pregnant is uncomfortable. This baby better at least look like me.

• 36:50Speaker 07

  The male Duncan cashier nods along as if he could possibly relate.

• 36:53Kylie Kelce?

  But nothing takes my mind off this nausea and insomnia like an ice cold. Butter pecan, I'll have my usual, please.

• 37:01Speaker 07

  The cashier starts preparing Kylie's medium butter pecan iced coffee with almond milk. Kylie looks around the store. She can't get enough of the decor.

• 37:09Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my gosh, is that new signage by the ladies' room? Oh!

• 37:14Speaker 07

  Kylie wincing in pain. Was that her first contraction in her Duncan? She starts breathing heavily.

• 37:22Speaker 07

  Kylie pulls out her phone and immediately calls someone.

• 37:26Kylie Kelce?

  Jason, quick! I'm in labor.

• 37:31Kylie Kelce?

  Where do you think I am? I'm at Duncan!

• 37:35Kylie Kelce?

  No, there's no time to get your fan. Hall ass and get over here!

• 37:38Speaker 07

  To be continued.

• 37:40Kylie Kelce?

  Well, speaking of motherhood, I saw you are directing a film?

• 37:44Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 37:45Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, about first time motherhood and postpartum called Nanny Cam.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:49Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, tell me more about that. And did you finish shooting already?

• 37:52Speaker 03

  We just finished shooting. Uh, it is about a mother suffering from postpartum psychosis. I actually believe I was suffering from postpartum with Malani, but I guess when you're crazy, you don't think you're crazy. And you only realize you're crazy when you're out of it. And I was shooting Snooki and Jaiwa when I created this concept of Nanny Cam because I went into a film house with a newborn. Because we weren't allowed to go home to our real houses because there are film ordinance in my town. So I went to a staged home for my, the birth of my first child, which is crazy.

• 38:32Speaker 03

  But I actually really respected it because production had cameras everywhere to make sure my daughter was okay. But it was actually when we wrapped that I realized I was developing postpartum. And I started putting cameras throughout my own house to make sure I could watch her. Firstborn problems. I don't know if she's breathing, sleeping, up, nah, I was highly paranoid. You're not sleeping at all. She's not sleeping. You know the, the deal.

• 39:00Kylie Kelce?

  Yep.

• 39:00Speaker 03

  So I started actually like not seeing things in my cameras, but I started being like, oh, that's a little wonky. Let me make something out of this. So 10 years ago, I started, uh, writing my, the movie nanny cam, which is about a mother going through postpartum psychosis that thinks she's seeing things in the cameras that nobody else can see, but nobody else will believe. And I really want to hit home about mental illness and first time mothers, women, and how it takes a village and how regardless of, um, it being real or not, it's real to that person. My mom has schizophrenia. So what my mom sees and hears is what she sees and hears.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  And it's really just a conversational piece that I'm making on bringing mental illness to light. Because I think just like the guy getting, you know, punching Nicole in the face. If we start talking about these things more and we start showing these things more, people will understand them more and help. And I want to help women that go through those things.

• 40:07Kylie Kelce?

  It's so important too, to, to have those conversations because like you're saying, first time moms, obviously you don't know what to expect. You're not sleeping. You're going through a grind that like you, anyone could have explained to you and you still have no idea.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Here's a great one. And I just realized this coming over here. I, I just said this to someone this morning. I, and you'll see it on Snook Wow and you can see it in pictures. I shaved my head. I shaved the side of my head after I had Mulaney. Nobody questioned it. Nobody said, oh, should we get her checked out? What's going on there? I went full blonde, shaved and just was like chilling.

• 40:47Kylie Kelce?

  This is it now.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  This is it.

• 40:49Kylie Kelce?

  I, but, but that's like, in that moment, you were like, this is the right decision.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  This is great. I want a new do. Yeah.

• 40:57Kylie Kelce?

  And looking back, now you're like,

• 40:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. And that's where I feel like, Yes, where we need to start like asking our friends that just had babies. Are you okay? Do you need a break? Do you need someone to talk to? How's your mental health? Are you sleeping? Are you eating properly? Are you seeing shit? Do you want to shave your head?

• 41:16Kylie Kelce?

  Right. I, I will say, I did tell my, my, the person who cuts my hair, Jason's barber, but she also does my hair. I told her when I started having kids, like, Hey, if I ever come to you and ask for the mom cut, which is like the really cute, like shorter hair. But I know that that is, that's my threshold. I told her, if I ever come to you and ask for a shorter haircut, I need you to have, I need you to like, take me to the doctor's office.

• 41:44Speaker 03

  That's so smart though.

• 41:45Kylie Kelce?

  The moment where it's going to be like, no, no. Logical, like grounded Kylie knew that that was not for her. And we can't risk it.

• 41:55Speaker 03

  That's so important. And it's so important that you realize that because you knew that was your limit.

• 42:00Kylie Kelce?

  Very much so.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  I did the mom cut too, and I hated it and I cried. And I was like, why did I do this when my hormones adjusted?

• 42:06Kylie Kelce?

  That's it.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  And you look back and you knew like, I have long, beautiful blonde hair. I know, I'm not touching this shit. Crazy Kylie.

• 42:13Kylie Kelce?

  I will, I will regret it. But sleepless, like hungry Kylie?

• 42:18Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:18Kylie Kelce?

  She probably was like, chop that shit.

• 42:20Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:20Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, no, I told, I told Libby, I said, Libby, do not let me do it. And she didn't. But I do think it's so important because I know, and I've talked about this a number of times. I know I had a different experience for every single one of my kids.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:33Kylie Kelce?

  I know that I had baby blues for my first. I know that I experienced some forms of postpartum for like my other girls. I can acknowledge that, but it's very much what you're saying. In the moment, it's hard to have a personal check and be like, am I okay right now?

• 42:50Speaker 03

  Yes, and if there's anything that I want people to learn from NANNY CAM, it's that it is gonna be terrifying and it's gonna be terrifyingly real, but I want people to talk about it and if they could turn to the person that they love, that have children or going to have children and start planning for those situations and give your wife and the mother of your child grace when she's going through them.

• 43:17Kylie Kelce?

  That's so amazing and I, I am excited to see it. Now, something else we have in common is one of the main reasons why I was so excited to have you on the show, particularly this week and in this location. We're both very involved in the autism community. You sit on the board for Culture City.

• 43:33Speaker 03

  I do.

• 43:35Kylie Kelce?

  For those who don't know, Culture City is an organization. They are actually, they are the ones who are able to outfit the sensory rooms that are at a lot of the NFL stadiums. A number of other stadiums are also putting them in. What, what drew you to get involved into Culture City?

• 43:53Speaker 03

  But I also have to shout you out before I talk about me because I look up to you. Oh my God, I got chills right now. I want to cry. You are such an incredible autism advocate, like truly. You, the Philadelphia Eagles, the city of Philadelphia being our first sensory inclusive city, like I'm gonna get emotional, but like I just want to say thank you because there is no me without you in this dynamic because it's people and places like Philly and like yourself that make Culture City what it is. The owner of the Philadelphia Eagles is incredible. I know he did everything for his brother, right?

• 44:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I got involved because my son was diagnosed and I needed help. The irony is, you know, there's so many ironies in my life, but when my son got diagnosed with autism by like six doctors, and I know at one point they really did not want to diagnose him because they were scared shitless, like if we get this wrong, this girl's all over television and, you know, and they got it right, but it's nerve wracking for everyone. But after I got his diagnosis, I did not know what to do besides, he needs ABA, he needs ABA 40 hours a week. He needs speech and OT and all this stuff and then.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  Even then, I was like, still overwhelmed and like, let me get a second opinion and let me fly him to Florida for it. So I fly my son Grayson to Florida and there was a flight delay on the way back. And we were sitting in TSA and I did not have pre-check at the time. This was nine years ago, eight years ago. And he decided to not like that and he tried to run through TSA. And when I tried to stop him, he ripped my glasses off and broke them and he like head butted me. And it was a very emotional and very real moment that I had with him.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  And through all this diagnosing, nobody explained to me sensory issues and sensory processing. And I had no idea because he really wasn't on a flight before that, that he didn't like lines. And he didn't like waiting and he hated delays. And because he couldn't speak, he couldn't tell me that. So he took his aggression out on me because I was the closest thing to him.

• 46:19Speaker 03

  And I remember seeing everybody's phones go up and everyone's recording JWoww with her son, who is throwing a tantrum in the airport. And I just remember crying and I remember going to the, the, I finally get through TSA and I'm bawling and my, I have scratches and my son's crying and I can't get him in his car seat and, and we're having this moment and I just want to get on the plane or hide. And I'm asking the gate and the gate's like, there's nothing we can do. Your flight's delayed. And I'm begging, like begging. I'm like, as a person, as a mom, please help me. They're like, there's nothing we can do.

• 46:56Speaker 03

  So I was able to lock myself in a bathroom with him and get him figured out and lock him into his stroller. Like I was like hog tying him at one point, just to calm him down.

• 47:09Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 47:09Speaker 03

  And we got on the plane and he passed out. I remember all the looks and I just, you know, he just got diagnosed. I was, I didn't want to talk about his diagnosis. I was still trying to process that. And I just did this Karen post on my personal Facebook, just fucking going off on the whole situation. And my girlfriend, her husband, Tiki Barber and Tracy Barber were like, hey, we're, we're part of Culture City. Let me put a sensory room in your house and give you some sensory tools. So when you're flying. And I was like, what's that? I had no idea. And she came over literally 72 hours with Culture City. They remade a whole bedroom of mine into a sensory room for Grayson.

• 47:53Speaker 03

  They explained to me his diagnosis in a way that the hospitals didn't. That there are going to be challenges with lights and lines. And feeling overwhelming and that he might need headsets or fidget spinners. And like, the hospitals don't tell you that when they diagnose. And I just started crying and I asked them like, what can I do? To be a part of like your group, like I want to help. And yeah, I think that cut to me being on the board for the last seven years and my goal now is to make sure

• 48:31Speaker 03

  airports, TSA agents and all of the above are not only certified to understand those situations and to deescalate them, but to create sensory rooms. So if you're a mother like me going through that, you have a safe place. Because nothing is worse than when people are taking their cell phones out and doing that. And I talked about that and the iron, not the irony, the best part of it is nobody sold that video. Nobody posted it online.

• 49:04Kylie Kelce?

  It didn't see the light of day.

• 49:04Speaker 03

  It never, and they might still, but no, out of the 20 to 30 people recording, I never saw it.

• 49:12Kylie Kelce?

  I, I think that there's something to be said about like it, a lot of situations, people will give grace to kids, right? Because they're kids.

• 49:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:22Kylie Kelce?

  But. A lot of times, eh eh, an escalated situation with an individual on the spectrum might be louder, it might be harder to de-escalate, specifically in a public area.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:34Kylie Kelce?

  So having those spaces to be able to do that, and like, even if it wasn't someone in your position in the public eye and who was a celebrity, having that moment, I know that that happens to people who are not in the public eye.

• 49:49Speaker 03

  I see it all the time on the internet, and I'm always like, but what if that child is not having a tantrum?

• 49:55Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  Like, I always will give grace and I will always step in to help. Because you don't know what that parent's going through, and you don't know what that child's going through. And because I had that moment myself, I look at everything differently. I'll look at every parenting situation differently. And I, I just feel like through Culture City, I just wanna help. And I wanna make, I don't wanna make you become the next meme or the next viral video. Like, I find, you know, we have to start like, looking at situations from a broader perspective and not just like, oh, that kid's having a tantrum, let me record it. And like, start looking at it like, oh, what if I put my phone down and helped?

• 50:37Kylie Kelce?

  Well, I think it goes hand in hand with the fact that it, eh, the number statistic for individuals who are diagnosed with, on the autism spectrum, they, it has increased. I believe it's one in thirty-one now. It went up from one in thirty-four.

• 50:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:53Kylie Kelce?

  And that rise in number is because we are more aware that these kids might not just be difficult or having tantrums, or eh, not like the airport, or be impatient. It might be that their brain is telling them like, fight or flight.

• 51:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, and that's a terrible thing to feel.

• 51:10Kylie Kelce?

  Right?

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, and a lot of people need to understand that, and I know older people will roll their eyes and be like, oh, they're over-diagnosing. No, they're finally diagnosing, is what I say. And we're finally giving tools and things to people, whether it's, you know, sensory bags at the Phillies game to de-escalate someone, or a sensory room with their

• 51:33Speaker 03

  overwhelmed by the noises that they can go into or if it's training at an airport so they can understand what to do in a situation like that so they can help. I feel like if all we're asking for is just like helping others, what's wrong with that?

• 51:49Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. And also, I think it's important to note that, yes, the sensory room is intended for the individual who needs to de-escalate or who needs those moments of peace, but it is opening up a world of opportunity for families who have someone in their family who's on the spectrum, who are now able to go into those spaces, who are be able to enjoy those opportunities as a family, whether it's going to monster trucks at the stadium, or a concert, or an Eagles game. You are now given the opportunity as a family to go and do that because you have the space that you need to de-escalate in the situation where someone is having a moment of disruption, right?

• 52:28Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm gonna keep fangirling at you, but, and not to interrupt, but Grace and my son was able to go to the WWE at the Eagles stadium because of you guys, because you are sensory certified, the city sensory certified, you have the room. So he was able to see the pyrotechnics, the huge loud noises, the banging, everything that he thought he could never see, or do, or make possible. It was given because Culture City, Eagles, autism, everyone aligned and allowed it for him. And because it, it's not even about him. He said, like, Grace thought it was so cool because he's like, I saw like 25 friends doing the same thing and we were all

• 53:10Speaker 03

  hanging out in the room together. And I'm like, that's what it is. It's your, those are your friends, those are your people.

• 53:16Kylie Kelce?

  He should be allowed to, he should be afforded that opportunity as well.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 53:19Kylie Kelce?

  And I, I do think that Philly really dedicating themselves to this mission, for Jeffrey to have the vision to create this organization, this foundation, and partner it with the Eagles organization in a way that everyone in that building at the Eagles organization understands the mission. And they understand why Jeffrey's passionate about it and why everyone should be passionate about it, because it impacts. So many people, so many families, and now people are starting to realize that they have a personal connection that helps them sort of lean in a little bit more.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:53Kylie Kelce?

  It's it honestly, I'm, I'm really proud. I appreciate you giving me props, but it really is like.

• 53:59Speaker 03

  Girl, you're gonna make like a million dollars tomorrow for your organization. We're gonna make that happen.

• 54:04Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, for any parents out there listening who might be growing through this, what advice would you have?

• 54:11Speaker 03

  So for me.

• 54:11Kylie Kelce?

  And this is asked at parenting advice.

• 54:13Speaker 03

  Oh, I know. No, I know. So for me, it's there when I, when my son got diagnosed, the first thing that they said was get him ABA, get him help, get him therapy. So if you feel that your child isn't meeting the right steps, whether it's going through school systems or the doctor appointments and they're just like behind, do get the advice. Don't turn, I have, I do, I have personal friends that are like, oh, my son's just a little bit delayed, but he'll grow out of it. Don't wait. Do what needs to be done.

• 54:51Kylie Kelce?

  Those early interventions.

• 54:51Speaker 03

  Early intervention is key. My son was diagnosed, I didn't have the insurance, I didn't have the means. So I created a business. I created the means. I found the way. I found the way to get the insurance. Like moms can be unstoppable and you need to be unstoppable for your children. Early intervention is key. Going to culturecity.org if you want to find places that are certified to take your children. If you know they have sensory needs. I mean, there's such a mountain of information now on the internet unlike 10 years ago. I feel like we're, I also feel like we're just getting started though, but I also feel like there's so much on the internet to help children where.

• 55:35Speaker 03

  I don't know, I feel like I was just like going through it myself. Or that could have been just me, though. Like, I was just going through the emotions. It was very isolating. But now I feel like it's less isolating, and it should be talked about, and don't feel afraid, or be afraid to talk about it.

• 55:50Kylie Kelce?

  I really think, like, being one step ahead, and honestly, trusting your gut.

• 55:55Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 55:55Kylie Kelce?

  I think a lot of moms know, and they don't

• 55:58Speaker 03

  Want to admit it, yeah.

• 55:59Kylie Kelce?

  They don't pull the trigger, or they don't have the conversation with the doctor, because they're like, ah, they'll get around to it. And some doctors need you to take that extra step to be like, no, I am worried. Because you do answer the questions at the doctor's office, and they'll say, well, you know, they'll, they'll get around to it in the next couple of weeks, or if, if it's not happening by your next appointment, we'll talk about it. And it's like, yeah, but if your mom gut is sounding the alarm,

• 56:21Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 56:21Kylie Kelce?

  You're welcome to do that.

• 56:23Speaker 03

  Listen.

• 56:24Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:25Kylie Kelce?

  Um, well, even though our shore events benefiting the Eagles Autism Foundation, uh, this week are done now, because it's technically Thursday when this releases, we've got plenty more coming up this year that you can get involved in. The Eagles, uh, Autism Foundation often holds sensory-friendly, uh, clinics.

• 56:41Speaker 03

  Yes, Grayson's gonna go to one.

• 56:43Kylie Kelce?

  They have so many different options.

• 56:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:46Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, there's a cheer clinic, um, there is a STEM clinic, which is a new addition than this last year. There's football clinics, obviously. Um, but it really is trying to get kids out, um, for an all-inclusive clinic, and make sure that everyone, again, is afforded those opportunities. Um, if you'd like to donate to the Eagles Autism Foundation, and help with our efforts to reach a million dollars in our year five of the guest bartending, we have a link, uh, for all the real ones right in the show description. So you can find that on our YouTube channel, or on any of our social media, um, probably Wednesday and through Thursday when this episode airs. I cannot thank you enough.

• 57:27Speaker 03

  I can't thank you enough.

• 57:28Kylie Kelce?

  I, it has been such a pleasure to reminisce with you.

• 57:31Speaker 03

  I know.

• 57:32Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, it is, I'm so sorry that we sweat you out here at the Jersey Shore, but I'm glad that you've experienced the South Jersey Shore, and that maybe we'll, maybe we'll coax you back.

• 57:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:40Kylie Kelce?

  Right?

• 57:41Speaker 03

  I am down.

• 57:42Kylie Kelce?

  I'll, I'll

• 57:42Speaker 03

  I'm gonna move in, it's fine.

• 57:43Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect.

• 57:44Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 57:44Kylie Kelce?

  I have a room upstairs, it's fine.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  I love that.

• 57:46Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, you can find even more clips from our longer conversation with J. Wow on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand-new episode. Follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media, at NGL with Kylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original, brought to you by Duncan. That's right.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  I love you, Queen.

• 58:06Kylie Kelce?

  Cheers again. Thanks to the real ones for tuning in.

• 58:21Speaker 00

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