Pod Insights Murder With My Husband 330. The Murder of Bootlegger’s Cove - The Murder of Bethany Correira About this episode When 21-year-old Bethany Correira disappears just days after moving to Anchorage, investigators race to uncover what happened, and who may be hiding the truth.
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0:00 Speaker 00 Great meeting. Who took notes? Anyone?
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0:16 Payton Moreland? You're listening to an Ono Media Podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. This is Murder with My Husband. I'm Pete Morland.
0:23 Garrett Moreland? And I'm Garrett Moreland.
0:24 Payton Moreland? And he's the husband.
0:25 Garrett Moreland? And I'm the husband. Welcome back. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. We love you guys. We're just out here. Pete ends. He's going through it. Pregnancy is tough.
0:38 Garrett Moreland? Like crazy. How you feeling, babe?
0:42 Payton Moreland? So much that like, I feel like I wasn't prepared for. Like, not prepared for, but I feel like there's so much that goes on that no one talks about. Like, I think you hear the typical, like, morning sickness and being uncomfortable and hot, but it's like, no, there is so much more physically going on that is uncomfortable and painful that, like, I had never heard about.
1:05 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
1:06 Payton Moreland? I just wasn't prepared for. I wasn't prepared for the fact that I, like, it would hurt to lift my leg because of the hormones shooting through my hips.
1:16 Garrett Moreland? I mean, I couldn't ima- I couldn't do it. I couldn't imagine. I hate, I don't like being uncomfortable. Not a fan.
1:21 Payton Moreland? Every time I put my undies on, I have to lean against something because lifting my leg hurts, like, I mean, granted, I've been doing all my exercises and stuff, and I also think every pregnancy is different. Some girls, like, work out through their whole pregnancy. I've just been doing, like, pelvic floor.
1:36 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
1:36 Payton Moreland? Stuff. But, yeah, there's so much about it that I'm just like, no one told me she was just gonna, like, tickle my bladder all day.
1:45 Garrett Moreland? Uh huh.
1:46 Payton Moreland? And like, I heard about kicking, and it's not even like a kick. It's like a, girl, stop. I'm gonna pee my pants if you keep doing that.
1:54 Garrett Moreland? She moves a lot. Um, I can feel her move all the time, all day, every day she's moving. Some people have pregnancies where their babies don't move much, or they don't feel it. It's, she moves 24/7. I can feel her kick basically anytime. Like, she's just going for it.
2:11 Payton Moreland? I don't think she loves the tightness. Of the womb because every time we get an ultrasound, she's pushing against like all corners.
2:20 Garrett Moreland? She's like this.
2:22 Payton Moreland? Like she really is stretched out.
2:24 Garrett Moreland? She's like, get me out of here.
2:25 Payton Moreland? Yeah, I don't think she loves the confined, like she's never just curled in a ball.
2:28 Garrett Moreland? Fun fact, Garrett was born really early.
2:31 Payton Moreland? This is the second episode in a row. You spoke third person in the intro.
2:35 Garrett Moreland? Well, now they know Garrett is. So fun fact, Garrett was born really early.
2:42 Garrett Moreland? Cause I said, I want out of there.
2:45 Garrett Moreland? I went out of there.
2:46 Payton Moreland? You didn't say that. You were bait. You were small.
2:48 Garrett Moreland? Yeah, I was like three pounds or something crazy.
2:52 Payton Moreland? Both my siblings were premies. My little sister was even more preemie than Garrett. But I was born somewhat normal. So I guess we'll see. And we've been, you know, checking up. Everything looks okay so far. So.
3:07 Garrett Moreland? I'm sure it'll be normal.
3:08 Payton Moreland? Hopefully.
3:10 Garrett Moreland? So we're pregnant. We're having a girl, if you didn't know, in case you didn't see Peyton's stomach over here on Netflix.
3:15 Payton Moreland? In case you didn't see that I've turned into a full blown NFL linebacker.
3:19 Garrett Moreland? That's not true. Not true. Ow. I've been getting these headaches. Sorry to switch over for a second, but we went to the doctor for it.
3:27 Payton Moreland? He has a neurology appointment.
3:28 Garrett Moreland? Neurology appointment. Ah, they just, they get so zingy. Crazy. We'll see what's going on. I've always had like eye and like head issues and I've always done a bunch of tests and a bunch of things, but we'll see what happens. Maybe I'm a superhero. Like maybe you have like a special power. I just don't know how to harness it yet.
3:48 Payton Moreland? It just hasn't come to fruition.
3:50 Garrett Moreland? And so maybe this is helping it come to fruition.
3:53 Payton Moreland? Like pretty soon you're just going to grow horns out of your head.
3:56 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
3:57 Payton Moreland? That can like make you invisible.
4:00 Garrett Moreland? Wolverine.
4:02 Payton Moreland? Except it's just a spiky helmet.
4:04 Garrett Moreland? Sure, I'll take it.
4:06 Payton Moreland? And you're just supposed to headbutt everyone.
4:07 Garrett Moreland? I mean, people would be scared though.
4:11 Payton Moreland? That was those coming out of your head.
4:12 Garrett Moreland? That was a sound effect.
4:15 Garrett Moreland? Thanks for being here. We love you all. Reminder, if you want bonus episodes, you can check that on Apple Podcasts or Patreon or Spotify. Those on Netflix. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. For those on audio. Thank you for being here. Oh geez. It's been so fun to just do this every week. So here we are.
4:39 Payton Moreland? Six years.
4:40 Garrett Moreland? Six years.
4:42 Payton Moreland? It's kind of crazy.
4:43 Garrett Moreland? We've been doing this for six years, guys.
4:45 Payton Moreland? It feels like two and at the same time, I don't actually think it feels that long, but.
4:50 Garrett Moreland? Six years is a long time. Bagel shops have been open for almost three months now.
4:56 Payton Moreland? That feels like it's been 10 years.
4:58 Garrett Moreland? Oh, my gosh, that feels like it's been a lifetime.
5:01 Payton Moreland? Yes.
5:03 Payton Moreland? That's how you know, that's how you know the podcast is, is just, you know.
5:07 Garrett Moreland? That's a little less stressful.
5:08 Payton Moreland? Yes.
5:09 Garrett Moreland? Yeah, I'm, I'm working a lot, but that's okay. Here we are, got to grind, got to grind. Okay, let's hop into this week's episode.
5:19 Payton Moreland? Our sources for this episode are ADN.com, NBCNews.com, FrontiersMan.com, FindAGrave.com, ABC News Medium, caselaw.fine law.com and CrimeRaven.com. Now, a quick disclaimer, this episode includes discussions of suicide and suicidal ideation. So if you or someone you know is struggling with this, please contact the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by dialing 988 or text STRENGTH to the crisis text line at 741741. You can also go to 988lifeline.org. And as always, please listen with care.
6:00 Payton Moreland? Starting a new chapter is scary and it's even more unnerving when you're doing it on your own, when you're moving to a new city, starting at a new school, having to find a new home, a new job, create new relationships. It honestly takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there in the world and just be open to a fresh start. It requires a lot of trust, trust in your new environment, trust in yourself and trust in the people around you. Because not everyone is looking out for your best interest. Some people are actually very prepared to take advantage of the new guy in town. And a lot of times, the ones that seem the warmest and most welcoming
6:43 Payton Moreland? are the ones you might need to watch out for the most. So today. We are headed northwest to a place we don't travel often on this show and that is Alaska. We are going to the town of Talkeetna. This is the gateway to Mount Denali, which is known as the highest mountain in North America. And it's actually a big summer vacation spot in Alaska where tourists go to hike, mountain climb, you know, be outdoors. But in the winter, when all of the visitors leave, Talkeetna becomes a quiet little spot with a tight knit community of only about 800 people.
7:27 Payton Moreland? It's also where the Correira family has lived since the 1970s. In this little Alaska town. Now Billy and Linda Correira settled down and built their own little log cabin in the seventies right along a pond. It's basically this little storybook home. And it's where they raised and homeschooled their kids. They had two sons and two daughters, one of them being their daughter Bethany. Now up until eighth grade, being homeschooled, Bethany hadn't seen much of the world outside of Talkeetna, her little town.
8:11 Payton Moreland? It wasn't until high school when she stopped being homeschooled and joined the rest of the kids in town that she kind of like broadened her version of life. But Bethany fit in quickly. She was athletic. She played volleyball, basketball. She ran track. She also loved everything outdoors, which was perfect for where she lived. She loved camping, biking, snowboarding, sailing. But homeschool was definitely character building for Bethany. She learned how to be self sufficient because of the way she grew up. And it also made her extremely curious about the world around her. Bethany knew there was a lot out there that she still needed to explore and she found a way to do that through the Christian church. So after graduating high school in Alaska, Bethany and
8:58 Payton Moreland? Heard something called the master's commission in an effort to connect deeper with God. And the program was a discipleship that took her to both Thailand and Nepal.
9:11 Garrett Moreland? Okay.
9:12 Payton Moreland? And so it kind of awakened a whole new sense of adventure in Bethany. She's basically traveling abroad with this Christian group. And after the year-long program, Bethany found another job that would take her to even more new and exotic places. She got work as a nanny, working for a doctor and his family as they sailed around the South Pacific. She even worked at some of the base camps near Mount Denali, helping climbers prepare for their journeys. So basically Bethany lived more life in 21 years than most people get to experience in 100. And yet, she still had so much ahead of her.
9:55 Payton Moreland? In May of 2003, Bethany has done all of this and decides she's ready to embark on her next chapter. So after some time off, she was ready to go back to school and she wanted to pursue a degree in medicine. And the destination she chose was the University of Alaska Anchorage.
10:14 Garrett Moreland? Okay, that'd be kind of cool.
10:16 Payton Moreland? So this was about 113 miles south of her hometown. And Anchorage is the biggest city in Alaska by population.
10:27 Garrett Moreland? I would love to go to Alaska. Would you like to go to Alaska?
10:29 Payton Moreland? I think so, yeah.
10:30 Garrett Moreland? I feel like.
10:31 Payton Moreland? It would just be so beautiful to like see, but I'm not a very outdoorsy person, so I don't know how much I could do besides just like sit on a boat.
10:39 Garrett Moreland? Yeah, I, I think it'd be fun. I don't know. I'd love to see like all the big trees and.
10:44 Payton Moreland? I could definitely like get off the boat and walk to a tree.
10:47 Garrett Moreland? Okay.
10:48 Payton Moreland? But I'm like not hiking.
10:50 Garrett Moreland? I get that.
10:51 Payton Moreland? I'm not snowboarding or skiing or fishing. I'll just ride on a boat.
10:55 Garrett Moreland? Like a snowmobile.
10:57 Payton Moreland? I don't know. There's a lot of serial killers in Alaska.
11:00 Garrett Moreland? What?
11:01 Payton Moreland? There is.
11:02 Garrett Moreland? Really?
11:03 Payton Moreland? Yeah.
11:04 Garrett Moreland? Okay. Are you sure?
11:05 Payton Moreland? Yeah. Because it's out there in the middle of nowhere with such vast land and like small, small towns.
11:12 Garrett Moreland? They just kill people?
11:13 Payton Moreland? Like weird prolific serial killers.
11:16 Garrett Moreland? How do you guys feel about that? Payne basically said Alaska is so boring. There's so many serial killers out there.
11:20 Payton Moreland? No, that's not what I said.
11:22 Garrett Moreland? Oh.
11:23 Payton Moreland? I think Alaska is beautiful and I think people who live there just live a different life than me. They like hiking. They like being outdoors. I love being outdoors. But more in a like.
11:34 Garrett Moreland? Relaxing.
11:35 Payton Moreland? I'm a fairy.
11:36 Garrett Moreland? Okay.
11:37 Payton Moreland? I'm not like a.
11:38 Garrett Moreland? I respect that.
11:38 Payton Moreland? Put on my hiking boots. I'd rather go barefoot in the forest, you know? So her moving to Anchorage for college is pretty different from where she grew up, despite it still being Alaska. But Bethany was prepared, though maybe a bit nervous about this next chapter. She was leaving her boyfriend, Joe Tamblyn, behind where she previously worked in Alaska and met him. It was at an airline office, but she planned to spend the summer in Anchorage before starting classes in the fall. So she was going to move there, hang out there for the summer, get to know people and then start school. She had already picked out all of her college courses and was excited to find a part-time job that could help her make a little cash outside of her studies.
12:23 Payton Moreland? So that spring, 2003, Bethany went out to the city and found a little apartment in the neighborhood of Bootleggers Cove, right on the water downtown. Okay, it's beautiful. And after meeting her apartment manager, she got her first job offer. It was cleaning out vacant apartments and actually getting them ready for rental. So she's going to work at the same place she lives. And her apartment manager told her if all went well, he could train her on how to show the apartments as well to potential tenants soon. So this is perfect. She's going to work where she lives.
13:05 Payton Moreland? She's going to clean out apartments, maybe even eventually show them off to people. Everything is falling into place for Bethany. But just a few days after moving into this apartment building in downtown Anchorage, her family noticed that something wasn't quite right.
13:25 Garrett Moreland? Sorry, haven't you seen that movie with Ryan Reynolds and?
13:30 Garrett Moreland? For the proposal?
13:31 Payton Moreland? Yeah.
13:31 Garrett Moreland? Like, that was really pretty in Alaska.
13:33 Payton Moreland? Yeah.
13:34 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
13:34 Payton Moreland? Especially the house.
13:36 Garrett Moreland? But I mean, like, I feel like there's, people have some money there.
13:38 Payton Moreland? To the window.
13:39 Garrett Moreland? Yeah. Sorry, I interrupted at a weird time, but it just came to my.
13:42 Payton Moreland? That movie is actually what makes me so scared of Daisy getting picked up by a bird.
13:48 Garrett Moreland? Valid.
13:49 Payton Moreland? It had to be a pretty big bird for Daisy, because she put on some, some chunk.
13:54 Garrett Moreland? Yeah, she got a little bit of bear hibernation going on right now.
13:56 Payton Moreland? But still possible.
13:58 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
13:58 Payton Moreland? So, on May 3rd, 2003, Bethany was supposed to meet her brother at the Anchorage Airport. Again, this is just like right after she's moved in. But when he gets off the plane and out to baggage claim, his sister Bethany isn't there. She never showed up to pick him up. And he knew this wasn't like his sister to just blow him off without even a phone call. But when he talks to his mother, Linda, she's like, listen, there's probably a good excuse. She told him not to worry. She was just gonna make the two-hour drive from home to Anchorage the following morning to go furniture shopping with Bethany.
14:41 Payton Moreland? So she was also going to Anchorage, and she's like, I'll see her then, we'll figure out what's going on.
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17:26 Payton Moreland? So the following day, May 4th rolls around and Linda, the mom, makes the drive all the way to Bethany's apartment and knocks on her door. But there's no answer. So she tries the door because this is obviously her daughter's place and it's unlocked. So Linda lets herself in and immediately she sees Bethany's bike is in there and so is her purse, her cellphone, her keys. So she's like, okay, she obviously hasn't gone far. Maybe she's just out for a jog. So she sits down in the apartment and waits, but Bethany doesn't return. And finally, Linda decides, okay, I'm just gonna go to the garage
18:06 Payton Moreland? cell that we were planning to attend. Maybe Bethany is just there, but she's not. And when Linda goes back to the apartment, 21-year-old Bethany, her daughter, still isn't home.
18:21 Garrett Moreland? Okay.
18:21 Payton Moreland? So Linda, I mean, her daughter has just moved here to go to college. She's starting to get nervous and later that day she calls the police. They give her the same song and dance that we've heard before. Bethany's an adult. She's 21. She can go out and do whatever she wants. She'll probably be back soon. So this is when Linda calls her husband Billy and she's like, get to Anchorage immediately. Something's wrong. Now meanwhile, a detective in the Anchorage Police Department named Glenn Klinkhart hears about the call and thinks, someone tried to report their 21-year-old daughter missing today. Something just didn't
18:59 Payton Moreland? feel right because earlier that morning, something else had happened right next to Bethany's apartment. So apparently, a neighboring building, a four-plex, was on fire that morning. A paper delivery person called it in and the firefighters in Anchorage got there in time to put out the blaze and save the building, but the inside of it was pretty much gutted. And so when Detective Klinkhart hears that, wow, a girl right next door to the building that was on fire is also missing right now, he's like, I don't know. I don't think she's just gone off. This feels connected. I don't know. He's like, I just have a bad feeling. So that night Detective Klinkhart actually on his own heads over to Bethany's apartment
19:44 Payton Moreland? to speak with her mother who had called to try to report her missing. And he quickly agrees with Linda. The way her things are still just kind of strewn about the apartment unlocked her cell phone on the kitchen counter, her bed unmade, a book turned over and half read like she was like marking her spot.
20:04 Garrett Moreland? Huh, okay.
20:05 Payton Moreland? Cause this doesn't look like someone who just willingly up and left. This looks like something happened.
20:09 Garrett Moreland? Here's the thing. No one leaves their phone anywhere these days.
20:14 Payton Moreland? Keys, phone, wallet.
20:16 Garrett Moreland? Anywhere. Granted, I know it's not 2026, but no one leaves her phone anywhere.
20:20 Payton Moreland? Also, like she was supposed to pick her brother up the day before she was meeting her mom. The next day she had full blown plans. Why would she just disappear and not say anything? But the detective doesn't notice any necessarily foul play inside her place. And as for the building next door, the fire, Klinkart looks into that almost immediately. The fire department reports back, they found no signs of a body or any evidence of a crime. And even though they hadn't completed their investigation yet, they were like, we actually think this fire at this fourplex was accidental, probably due to an electrical problem. So he's like, okay, maybe they're not connected, but I still feel weird about this missing persons
21:02 Payton Moreland? case, mainly because this feels a little like deja vu. According to Detective Klinkart in Alaska, and we're very much getting into like Netflix detective series, TV series right now.
21:17 Garrett Moreland? Like it's very like, it's off of like, um, I don't want to say vibes, but like feeling and like, you can feel something's wrong.
21:23 Payton Moreland? There's a history in this place type thing. Like we're figuring out what's happening in this town. So this detective Klinkart is like, the reason I even went out of my way to show up to this girl's apartment despite the fire was there's a case he had seen years ago that felt familiar and it was actually one that happened to his very own family. So again, we're getting into the, well, my sister went missing and now this girl's missing. And I'm wondering if it's the same pert, you know, that's type of feeling. So back in 1981, Detective Klink- Klinkart was 15. He and his family went away for Easter to visit his grandparents and his 16
22:05 Payton Moreland? year old sister Dawn had convinced his parents to just let her stay home alone. Now, while they are visiting grandparents for Easter, 16 year old Dawn is at home throwing a party. This is one that Klinkart, her little brother, knew about, but he didn't tattle tell. He didn't tell his parents. He didn't want to rat her out. And it would become one of the biggest regrets of his life because on Easter morning, the Klinkarts got a call. His parents, there had been a fire at their house. Dawn had been inside, apparently, when it happened, and she didn't survive.
22:39 Garrett Moreland? Okay.
22:40 Payton Moreland? But that wasn't the end of the story.
22:41 Garrett Moreland? Gosh, that's.
22:43 Payton Moreland? You stay home alone and then your daughter dies in a house fire.
22:46 Garrett Moreland? There's two things that, I mean, like drowning and burning alive, both just absolutely. I mean, it's not necessarily, I guess, burning alive because usually you're going to pass out beforehand because of, you know, like the smoke, lack of oxygen, all that, but crazy.
23:04 Payton Moreland? So this wasn't the end of the story, though. It wasn't like she just died in this random house fire. They learn after more investigating. Again, this is his sister, who's a year older than him at the time. One of the 19 year old partygoers had like left the party and then returned later that night knowing that Dawn was home alone and he snuck into Dawn's room. He sexually assaulted her.
23:30 Garrett Moreland? Oh my gosh.
23:31 Payton Moreland? And then murdered her and set fire to the house. So that was the real story. It wasn't like she just died in a house fire.
23:39 Garrett Moreland? Okay, that's insane.
23:41 Payton Moreland? She had been murdered. And while the man was ultimately caught and sentenced to 75 years in prison, this is obviously something that never leaves a little brother at 15 years old. It's what inspired him to go into law enforcement. So now you're understanding why Bethany going missing a fire going on right next door was so alarming to him, so triggering for him. So like, I'm completely invested in this missing person's case. So after that day, Clean Cart knew he had to get to the bottom of this. This wasn't just another case he was taking on. This was personal. It just, it hit a little deeper. Maybe he was trying to heal some of his own wounds. And one of the first people Clean
24:26 Payton Moreland? Cart went to look at was Bethany's boyfriend, who lived in a completely different place where she used to work, Joe Tamblyn. Now, Joe seems like a pretty unlikely suspect. Not only was he over an hour and a half flight away from Anchorage, as an airline pilot, he was literally flying in the air at the time Bethany disappeared.
24:48 Garrett Moreland? Wow.
24:49 Payton Moreland? He did claim, however, that he had actually spoken to Bethany that morning. All Bethany said, though, was that she was going to meet up with her apartment manager that day so she could start training for her job. Basically, he was gonna teach her how to show apartments. So Joe was quickly ruled out, but police also had to consider his own personal life. Joe was actually currently separated from his wife and dating Bethany, who his wife, he was separated from, openly talked about not liking Bethany, her husband's new girlfriend. But when police look into her, they find she's not a viable suspect either. She lived in a very remote part of Alaska that would have made it extremely difficult to get to Bethany that day. Both of
25:32 Payton Moreland? their alibis checked out, and the pool of people Bethany knew in Anchorage was pretty small. Like I said, she'd only been there a few days at this point. So the next question is, is this a completely random crime?
25:46 Garrett Moreland? Well, it's like, also, they haven't found anything.
25:48 Payton Moreland? No.
25:49 Garrett Moreland? There's no body, like, there's nothing found yet.
25:51 Payton Moreland? It didn't appear to be a robbery with no forced entry, no signs of foul play inside her apartment. But because of just how chilling this situation was, it didn't take long for news to spread throughout Anchorage. And the way people came together to help solve Bethany's case was pretty heartwarming. Just a day or two after Bethany's disappearance, many of her friends and family members came down from her hometown to help in the search effort. They left their jobs and responsibilities behind, and they literally camped out in tents along Bootleggers Cove, which is where she lives. And when they weren't searching every square inch of Anchorage, they were going around spreading the word, posting missing
26:35 Payton Moreland? persons flyers all over town. So by then, everyone in Anchorage knew who Bethany Correa was. In fact, Bethany's case became the biggest missing persons search in Anchorage history at that point. People back in her hometown came together to raise $40,000 for a reward, leading to any information about her disappearance. A local jeweler in Anchorage cleaned up and repaired Bethany's jewelry for her family to have. A 12-year-old boy started taking the bus to the local police station after school to help intern on the investigation. I mean, the way this community came together in their own little
27:17 Payton Moreland? ways, I mean, it's, it's pretty amazing for a girl who had just moved to the area a couple of days earlier. But this mystery was proving much harder to solve than the police initially thought. And the more time went on, the more confident they felt that Bethany had met foul play. There was no usage on her accounts or credit cards. In a sense, I mean, she'd kind of already, she just moved there a couple of days before. She'd already started fresh. It doesn't make sense she would then get up and run away. But the obvious suspects weren't panning out. So they had to start looking at every single person that had come across Bethany's life recently. And as you've probably picked up, there was
27:58 Payton Moreland? one that stuck out to them. The person Bethany's boyfriend mentioned, the building manager who was going to help teach her how to show apartments for her job. This is the same apartment manager she has for her place. His name is Mike Lawson.
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30:59 Payton Moreland? support the show. Simply Safe, ahead of crime and in real time. So Detective Klinkhart goes to see Mike. He's like, listen, the boyfriend said that you were seeing her that morning. And Mike is really cooperative. He tells Klinkhart how he, his wife, and his brother Bob all work for the same property holding company that manages buildings and construction projects. He says he was the one who hired Bethany to help out with cleaning some units. And yeah, he had talked to Bethany once or twice the day she went missing. He said the last time he had spoke to her was around 8:00 a.m. the morning she went missing. He described Bethany as a nice girl. I mean, he didn't know her that well, but said he had met her parents because she was young.
31:42 Payton Moreland? She was starting college. She was excited to start college and he was really heartbroken to hear what had happened to her. Mike was in his 50s. He was a dad himself. He had two grown children. Said he felt sympathy for the family. And when Detective Klinkhart asked him, okay, what did you and Bethany speak about the day she vanished? Mike was like, oh, she called me once or twice because she was having problems accessing a specific unit. Apparently, there was some sort of mix up with the keys. And he said after that conversation, he just assumed Bethany had figured it out because he didn't hear from her again. But he never saw Bethany in person that day. He's like, all of this was just over the phone. Okay.
32:26 Payton Moreland? So Clean Car is like, okay, well, where were you that morning? You know, if you didn't see her, you weren't with her. And Mike says he was at home with his brother Bob. They were hanging out, watching NASCAR basically all day. He only left one time to go buy cigarettes at the local gas station. But Mike did mention something kind of strange. When Clean Car asked if he was planning to train Bethany on how to show apartments and not just clean them, he said, no. He'd never mentioned that to her. That was his job. Why would I train her for something like that?
33:04 Payton Moreland? Obviously, this sounds weird because this is something Bethany explicitly mentioned to multiple people and seemed excited about like, oh, not only am I cleaning apartments, he's gonna train me how to like, show them to potential buyers. But then, Mike's like, no, that's literally my job. Like, why would I train someone to do my own job? It's convenient enough for the detective to verify Mike's alibi because his brother Bob, the one he was supposedly watching NASCAR with the day Bethany disappeared, well, he lives with Mike. So he's right there. And he admits, yeah, we didn't see Bethany that day. Mike was here with me all day long. Then we went out to the bar with some friends that night. Now, obviously, we know an alibi
33:50 Payton Moreland? from a family member saying you were home with them, isn't really a solid alibi. But Clean Car also had a weird feeling about these guys. Everything about it just seemed strange. For example, Bob kept looking at his brother before he answered Clean Car's questions. They're like, kind of in cahoots. And apparently, Mike's answers felt robotic, like kind of rehearsed. And little by little, Clean Car starts to hear things about Mike Lawson as he's like, trying to figure out who this guy is. And it's things that don't really help his case. A few days after speaking with Mike, Klinkhart got a call from one of Mike's other coworkers. It's a guy named Franco.
34:32 Payton Moreland? Now Franco said Mike was complaining about Bethany before she disappeared. He claimed he heard Mike say something like, quote, "That effing B word is giving me so many problems." Remember, this girl is just barely started working.
34:50 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
34:51 Payton Moreland? So when Franco heard about Bethany's disappearance, it definitely set off alarm bells when he remembered what Mike said. So Klinkhart sets up an appointment to go talk to Franco at his job site. And it just so happens that Mike was working that day at that site too. But Klinkhart sits down with Franco and he says, "Listen, me and Mike have worked together for a while. Mike's been going through some stuff lately. Apparently, his fourth wife, the one he worked with at the property holding company, had just left him and it sounded like it was out of the blue. She just abruptly quit the job they worked together. She then told him she wanted a divorce and she left town.
35:34 Payton Moreland? Franco said Mike had been taking it out on other women ever since his wife had left. Apparently, Mike even told Franco he met a woman at a bar and quote, "I did her the same time I was beating her."
35:50 Garrett Moreland? Oh my gosh.
35:52 Payton Moreland? So Franco's literally like, "Hey, Bethany went missing. Let me tell you a little bit about my co- my Mike, okay? Let me little, let me tell you what I've heard." On his way out, like after meeting with Franco, Detective Klinkhart decides to take a look at Mike's car. Just a little peek, you know, he doesn't have a warrant, but just a peek. There was nothing immediately obvious, but Klinkhart knew he had to get a warrant. So he gets on that. But Mike obviously sees Klinkhart at his job site interviewing people. And as soon as the detective left, Mike started apparently acting really strange. He began circling his car, trying to see what Klinkhart might have seen. He then told Franco- That he was gonna take a couple of days off to find a lawyer and quote, take care of some
36:37 Payton Moreland? stuff. And then he left for a few hours and when he came back, his car was spotless. He had left and got his entire car detailed inside and out after seeing Detective Cleancart peeking at it. So Franco calls the police and is like, yeah, so I know I just told you everything, but also after you left, he went and got his car detailed. Like I just have to share this with you now. So the warrant's probably not going to be as helpful. So by this point, Cleancart pretty much is locked in on Mike Lawson. Now it's just a matter of finding enough to make an arrest, which is why he starts digging deeper into Mike's background to see if there's anything that can help him build the case. He finds a pretty
37:19 Payton Moreland? scary track record. Turns out, Mike spent a year in prison for sexually assaulting a young woman, and he never registered as a convicted sex offender despite the fact he was supposed to. When they spoke to more people in Mike and Bob's orbit, detectives also hear of two other sexual assaults that like had been rumored to happen. And one of those was the teenage daughter of one of Mike's coworkers. So someone he worked with, he sexually assaulted that guy's daughter. Now, the assault was never officially reported.
37:54 Garrett Moreland? Killed by somebody.
37:56 Payton Moreland? But this is all just rumor. Like, he doesn't have a very good reputation in town. But what's interesting is, apparently, when the family confronted Mike about it, Bob, his brother, stepped in and stood up for him. He said, "Your teenage daughter made the entire thing up. My brother didn't do this. This isn't possible." And then there was like another incident with a bartender at a place that Mike was a regular at. She claimed there was one night, she and a friend were invited to go bowling with Mike, and he offered to drive, but on the way there, he said he needed to stop by his office for something. And when they got there, she said Mike took out a gun and forced both of the girls to get naked.
38:34 Garrett Moreland? Oh my gosh.
38:36 Payton Moreland? Now thankfully, another employee walked in on this. And so Mike like stuffed the gun away and was like, "Oh, we're just hanging out. We're joking around." The two women left. They didn't report the incident to police, but this is again, something that's been rumored, something that's like common knowledge. So you have to wonder, how many other stories were there like this floating around about Mike Lawson? And he's the last person to, I guess, ever have spoken to Bethany, apparently. So around the same time, Klinkart's learning all of this, he also hears more about the fire, the one that started the morning of Bethany's disappearance. Again, the department initially ruled it as an electrical problem, definitely an accident.
39:19 Payton Moreland? But after the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms flew their arson investigator in to take a look, they felt differently and a week later, the ruling was reversed. The fire next door was no longer an accident, it was arson and it had been sparked with an accelerant, which means Klinkart's instincts that these two things were connected might have been right after all. So Detective Klinkart keeps throwing every resource he has at this thing. He becomes so seriously invested in this case, he can hardly sleep at night. So digging deeper, he pulls Mike Lawson's cell records.
40:00 Payton Moreland? He's focusing on the day Bethany disappeared and he noticed the morning, May 3rd, Mike Lawson used his cellphone to call his own home, like several times. Why are you calling your own landline if you're sitting at home with your brother watching NASCAR? Why are you literally calling the phone on your wall as you're sitting in your living room, watching NASCAR with your brother?
40:23 Garrett Moreland? Yeah, hilarious.
40:24 Payton Moreland? But those records also tell a longer story than that. It shows that Mike's phone was hitting a cell tower close to Bethany's apartment that morning. Mike then calls Bob's phone from the same area and then Bob's phone starts moving from their house towards his brother's location at Bethany's apartment. A short while later, both their phones travel back to the home together and then an hour or so north. So a few hours later, they then begin traveling south again back towards Anchorage. So basically, Mike is at Bethany's apartment that morning. He's calling home, he's calling his brother. Then his brother meets him towards Bethany's apartment.
41:08 Payton Moreland? Then they both get in a car, they drive home and then drive an hour out of town. And now we're driving back into town into Anchorage. This feels pretty, it's pretty, it feels pretty obvious what was probably going on.
41:21 Garrett Moreland? It feels like it's gonna be pretty open and shut.
41:23 Payton Moreland? Right. It appears as if the brothers took Bethany from her apartment and then left her out in the Alaskan wilderness somewhere.
41:31 Garrett Moreland? Insane.
41:32 Payton Moreland? Again, Alaska's so vast, like where do you even go?
41:35 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
41:36 Payton Moreland? We're talking hundreds and hundreds of miles of search area here. And unless he could get one of these brothers to talk, it seemed like he probably was never ever going to be able to find this body on his own. The only thing he could do now was try to apply a lot of pressure to the Lawson brothers and get one of them to say where her body is. So for the next few weeks, officials get search warrants for their home and their cars. They put the brothers under surveillance. They placed a tracker on Mike's car. They had Franco, the like coworker, wear a wire to see if he could get Mike to talk. And they interviewed everyone who had close contact with the brothers recently, including Mike's ex-wife. None of it helps.
42:21 Payton Moreland? Both the brothers lawyer up, they stopped cooperating with police. They're not saying anything. Nine months go by.
42:28 Garrett Moreland? Oh my gosh.
42:29 Payton Moreland? These detectives are waiting for a body. They don't feel like they have enough concrete evidence to convict them of first degree murder with just these like cellphone records. And the fact that that's the last person that they think she talked to. So there's little movement toward an arrest. So Detective Cleancart's like, I gotta do something else. He figures if either of the brothers are gonna talk, it's probably gonna be Bob because he's the one who like went and saved Mike. He's the one that seems to have more of a conscience, but he's not gonna do it willingly. They're gonna have to get him on something else first. So they take a fine tooth comb to their finances, figuring there's gotta be something there that we can pull Bob in on.
43:12 Payton Moreland? And eventually they find it. Mike and Bob were close, so close that they worked together. They had a business together. Bob even had an affair with Mike's third wife.
43:22 Garrett Moreland? Okay.
43:22 Payton Moreland? But that's not what gets him busted. Turns out, the brothers had lied on applications for business loans, mainly about Mike's criminal history. It's small, but not too small to get a warrant. So Clean Cart reports to the FBI. He's like, listen, I want these guys for murder, but they did, they did do this. So the FBI filed federal fraud charges against Mike and Bob.
43:47 Garrett Moreland? Nice, I'm talking about.
43:48 Payton Moreland? February of 2004, police descended on the brother's house, making a huge spectacle of the arrests. Like, it has been nine months. They are ready to get these guys. They kick the door in. They handcuffed the brothers at gunpoint. They impounded Mike's truck. And then Clean Cart and his team corner bobs. They were trying to scare him.
44:08 Garrett Moreland? They're trying to get someone to talk, like, hey, we know what's going on.
44:11 Payton Moreland? They give him two options. They're like, you're gonna tell us everything you know about Bethany. What happened with Mike and Bethany? What happened that day? Or you are going to jail on federal charges because the FBI are involved. And slowly but surely, Bob begins to cave. And this is what he tells police. On the morning of May 3rd, the day before Bethany was discovered missing, Bob got a call from Mike, who wasn't at home watching NASCAR, by the way, saying, quote, "I'm in trouble. I shot somebody." He then asked Bob to come to the apartment complex and bring plastic and duct tape. Bob said he knew at this point that Mike was dealing with a dead body, but he didn't know whose. He just knew his brother had killed someone.
44:54 Payton Moreland? And he said, he refused to help him. Instead, Bob said he continued to question Mike over the phone about what happened. He's like, I'm not coming, no questions asked, until he learned it was this new tenant and employee, a girl named Bethany. Now, when it came to motive, Bob said he didn't know why his brother had targeted Bethany other than the fact that he hated women. This is what he tells police.
45:17 Garrett Moreland? Wow.
45:17 Payton Moreland? He's like, I don't really know why he killed her, other than the fact that he really hates women.
45:21 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
45:21 Payton Moreland? Bob tells police he refused to help Mike that day. He says Mike eventually gave up asking for help, said, whatever, I'll just take care of the body in the crime scene on my own. He claims his brother then drove Bethany out to the woods, left her there without her clothes, even put some leaves on top of her to cover her up and drove away and then told Bob about it later on, which is how he knows these details. And the police are like, okay, if by any chance you did go, like you're lying right now and you actually did go with him to get rid of the body, can you tell us? And Bob's like, no, no, I didn't go. Mike did it all on his own. Now, obviously, we know this is a lie. His cell phone data puts him driving out and then driving. So we know he's trying to like, take,
46:07 Payton Moreland? I wasn't involved at all right now, but his cell phone
46:09 Garrett Moreland? He definitely was involved.
46:10 Payton Moreland? Tells another story. So then Detective Clean Car is like, okay, I just gave you the chance to tell the truth again, but now I'm going to confront you. We know your cell phone was there. You're lying and we are going to talk to Bethany's family later this day. Like, we're going to tell them that we have both of you, that it's both your cell phones. And Bob's like, okay, okay, I was there. After Mike called him and told him he shot someone, Bob went over to the complex next to Bethany's apartment. He said Mike, his brother, was high out of his mind on cocaine. Bethany was naked and dead in the bedroom. Bob said he helped Mike roll Bethany up in some plastic and together they put her in Mike's truck. Their original plan was to drive her body up six and a half hours north
46:54 Payton Moreland? to Fairbanks and leave her in a gravel pit that was on a friend's property. But once they got underway, Bob began to panic, like, what if they got in an accident? What if they got pulled over? That's a long time to have a dead body in a car. He's like, listen, we just need to get rid of the body sooner. So they stopped along Parks Highway at mile marker 129. Bob said, we tried to dig a grave, but the ground was too fro- And so we left her by a gravel pit and then headed back to Ingridge. He said, but the job wasn't done. They decided they had to burn down the complex where Mike shot Bethany because remember he didn't shoot her at her apartment. He shot her at the building next door. They are like, let's burn it. Let's destroy all of the evidence.
47:38 Payton Moreland? Bob was the one who set the blaze and left on May 3rd. But it seemed to go out before the building burnt to the ground because the following day, Mike goes back to the crime scene and lights another fire. Cause it didn't stick the first time.
47:53 Garrett Moreland? My God, what is happening?
47:55 Payton Moreland? This is the one that gets reported. Apparently Bob knew a little more about the motive than he initially claimed to. He had just lied the whole time. He said Bethany had walked in on Mike in the apartment as he was cutting up bricks of cocaine.
48:12 Garrett Moreland? Oh.
48:13 Payton Moreland? And he said his brother then was holding her at gunpoint, trying to say like, don't tell anyone. And then the gun accidentally went off.
48:22 Garrett Moreland? Yeah, I'm sure it's exactly what happened. Yep.
48:24 Payton Moreland? But remember she was naked.
48:26 Garrett Moreland? Yeah.
48:26 Payton Moreland? When Bob got there, detectives are like, okay, well then why was she naked? And Bob was like, oh, well, I asked Mike that. I asked him, okay, if that's what happened, why was she naked? And he said he made her take her clothes off so she wouldn't run away. Cause why would she run out naked?
48:40 Garrett Moreland? Whatever, whatever.
48:42 Payton Moreland? Now, when Detective Klinkhart went to corroborate elements of Bob's story, he found a witness, newspaper delivery driver who said they did see a white SUV nearby the fire on the morning of May 4th around 6:47 a.m. They said a man was driving the SUV slowly watching the building burn. The description of the man in the truck were an exact match for Mike Lawson and his SUV. Now, this confession is important because he gave them a location for the body, which then basically proves his confession true if it is true. So of course, the first thing they're going to do with this confession is go try to find the body.
49:23 Payton Moreland? And Bob Lawson actually offers to show them the exact spot they left her. But at this point, it's February in Alaska. There's several feet of snow. They were like, we can't even get to where you guys went. We're gonna have to wait till we can drive on the ground to bring Bethany home. Meanwhile, Bob offered to help with the case in other ways, since there was no concrete physical evidence that Mike Lawson shot her outside of the cellphone data. They needed a confession and they're like, Bob, brother Bob, you are helping us get this.
49:54 Garrett Moreland? He's helping so much.
49:55 Payton Moreland? So like, you're gonna call your brother and we're gonna tap in and listen. Bob is super hesitant. He doesn't want to rat on his brother. He doesn't want to set him up. But detectives said, listen, there's a pretty good chance when we bring Mike in, he's gonna pin all of this on you. Like, we're gonna bring him in and he's gonna say, no, you're the one who pulled the trigger. So you should probably get him to tell the truth first. So finally, in April of 2004, Bob gets Mike, his brother, on the phone. He tells him what we did has been eating away at him. He's having to drink every night and he needed to talk about it with Mike. Like, he's like, we need to talk about what happened. And at first, Mike isn't having it. He knew his brother had been talking to the police. He's like, I, police are listening in on the call.
50:38 Payton Moreland? But eventually, after getting Bob to swear on his mother's life, that this call wasn't being recorded.
50:44 Garrett Moreland? Oh, man. Nothing like swearing on the mother's life.
50:47 Payton Moreland? And lying.
50:48 Garrett Moreland? Works every time.
50:49 Payton Moreland? Uh, Mike starts talking. He's like, okay, brother, let's talk about it. And Bob gets him to admit the story again. He had accidentally killed Bethany after she walked in on him, cutting up drugs. But he didn't sexually assault her. It was all an accident. Yet this is all police need. Mike was arrested and formally charged.
51:09 Garrett Moreland? One, two, three, easy.
51:11 Payton Moreland? With Bethany Carrera's murder, along with six other counts, like arson, evidence tampering.
51:17 Garrett Moreland? Yep.
51:17 Payton Moreland? A month later, the weather had warmed up enough. Police spent the next few days searching the location Bob said they left Bethany's body. And on May 3rd, 2004, Detective Klinkhart and a fellow officer were out for the third day of the search when they see something, a blue fleece jacket in the woods, sitting near a puka shell necklace. One, Bethany's boyfriend had actually gotten her just a few days before she vanished. And then near that, they find some bones and hair. I mean, the remains have been scattered at this point by animals. That day was also the one year anniversary of Bethany's death. She was found on her one
51:57 Payton Moreland? year anniversary. They had found Bethany and they tell her family. Now, the prosecution spent the next three years putting together the case to go to trial. Yeah. And Bob Lawson was basically going to be the star witness in the trial against his brother. But in May 2007, this is just a few days before Bob was scheduled to testify. Detective Klinkhart got a phone call around 3 a.m.
52:25 Garrett Moreland? Bob had killed himself.
52:27 Payton Moreland? Bob Lawson had parked his car in his garage, closed the door and kept the engine on and had died of carbon monoxide poisoning.
52:34 Garrett Moreland? He probably just couldn't testify against his brother.
52:37 Payton Moreland? The suicide note he left behind said he simply couldn't bring himself to testify against his brother.
52:43 Garrett Moreland? It's like, I know what I'm talking about.
52:45 Payton Moreland? It was a huge blow to everyone involved in the case, including the Correa family, because the star witness is now dead. On top of that, the prosecution was not allowed to bring up Mike's former conviction of sexual assault. Still, between the cellphone data, the recorded confession, the evidence.
53:03 Garrett Moreland? There's just no way. You don't find him guilty?
53:05 Payton Moreland? But the jury didn't think it was premeditated. They believed that it was like as she walked in and he killed her because of it.
53:13 Garrett Moreland? Oh, my gosh. There's just no way.
53:16 Payton Moreland? He texted her or he called her and said, come meet me at the building.
53:19 Garrett Moreland? Get out of here. Like, get out of here.
53:22 Payton Moreland? In August of 2007, Mike was found guilty of second degree murder.
53:27 Garrett Moreland? How long in prison?
53:29 Payton Moreland? And the judge announced something else. They wanted the jury to participate in a mini trial for one more charge they hadn't included. It was being a felon in possession of a gun. And basically, for this charge, his past conviction would be able to get it mentioned, which is why they're going to do a separate trial just for this. It took them five minutes to come to the conclusion that he was guilty. Six months later, Mike Lawson was sentenced to 99 years in prison.
53:57 Garrett Moreland? Good. Not even worried then.
53:58 Payton Moreland? Gets the max for second degree murder. This is the same amount he probably would have gotten if he had gotten convicted of first degree murder. That doesn't make it any better for the family, of course, because they do think it's 100% premeditated and that she was sexually assaulted. Bethany certainly came across the wrong person in Anchorage.
54:18 Payton Moreland? But she also found a really loving and supportive community, too, one that was dedicated to solving her case, supporting her no matter the emotional, physical or financial cost. Detective Klinkhart said Bethany's case changed him in a way he never expected, told the press, quote, "I really have to thank Bethany for a lot of things, including allowing me to kind of look back at my life and what happened to my sister and just be able to make amends." And that is the case of Bethany Carrera.
54:49 Garrett Moreland? Once again, just another case where just senseless, completely senseless, just a horrible human being, horrible person, killed someone, just like, screw that. Like, I just, I hate, I hate it.
55:00 Payton Moreland? And I'm sorry, but I believe allegedly he lured her there and sexually assaulted her and killed her.
55:07 Garrett Moreland? I believe it too. That's such bull crap.
55:09 Payton Moreland? I just am like.
55:10 Garrett Moreland? There's just no way.
55:12 Payton Moreland? Yeah. All right, you guys. Thank you for listening to today's episode and we will see you next time with another one. I love it.
55:19 Garrett Moreland? And I hate it.
55:19 Payton Moreland? Goodbye.
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