327. The Last First Date - The Murder of Sade Robinson

On this episode, Payton and Garrett dive into the case of Sade Robinson, a young woman who was building her dream life. But when Sade suddenly disappears, investigators begin tracing surveillance footage, leading them to a discovery no one saw coming. Links: Netflix Video Every Monday @11am PST, 12pm MST, 2pm EST 1pm CST https://www.netflix.com/murderwithmyhusband Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com Discount Codes: https://mailchi.mp/c6f48670aeac/oh-no-media-discount-codes Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/murderwithmyhusband/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@murderwithmyhusband Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7?si=f5224c9fd99542a7 Case Sources: CNN.com - https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/18/us/sade-robinson-killing-remains/index.html WISN.com - https://www.wisn.com/article/maxwell-anderson-sentencing-for-sade-robinson-murder/65575450 ABC17News.com - https://abc17news.com/cnn-regional/2024/04/16/community-group-creates-makeshift-memorial-to-sade-robinson-in-front-yard-of-maxwell-andersons-house/ DailyMail.co.uk - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14789433/wisconsin-maxwell-anderson-killed-sade-robinson-date.html VicksburgNews.com - https://vicksburgnews.com/search-continues-for-the-remains-of-vicksburgs-sade-robinson/ TheCinemaholic.com - https://thecinemaholic.com/maxwell-anderson/ People.com - https://people.com/college-student-slain-dismembered-racist-emails-plans-memorial-8786597 Wikipedia.org - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sade_Robinson GoFundMe.com - https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-sade-our-fallen-angel?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer SadesVoiceFoundation.com - https://www.sadesvoicefoundation.com/ WPR.org - https://www.wpr.org/news/jury-finds-maxwell-anderson-guilty-of-killing-and-dismembering-19-year-old-sade-robinson CapitalBNews.org - https://capitalbnews.org/sade-robinson-killer-sentenced-life/ CBSNews.com - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sade-robinson-milwaukee-murder-maxwell-anderson-48-hours/ USAHerald.com - https://usaherald.com/sade-robinson-murder-case-creates-push-for-change-in-handling-of-missing-black-women-cases/ FindAGrave.com - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/269310456/sade_carleena-robinson Fox6Now.com - https://www.fox6now.com/news/sade-robinson-killed-milwaukee-detective-donner MSN.com - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/maxwell-anderson-trial-sade-robinson-killed-friday-may-30/ar-AA1FMhwV?apiversion=v2&domshim=1&noservercache=1&noservertelemetry=1&batchservertelemetry=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1 WHBL.com - https://whbl.com/2025/06/06/953736/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Great meeting. Who took notes? Anyone?

• 0:04Speaker 01

  With Monday Note Taker, the meeting ends and the plan already exists. Action items, owners, deadlines. Go to monday.com, the AI workspace platform.

• 0:16Payton Moreland?

  You're listening to an Ono Media Podcast. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. This is Murder with my husband. I'm Payton Moreland.

• 0:23Garrett Moreland?

  And I'm Garrett Moreland.

• 0:24Payton Moreland?

  And he's the husband.

• 0:25Garrett Moreland?

  And I'm the husband. Happy Monday. Happy Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Thank you for being here. Thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. Another week, another episode. Honestly, we've just been working. Literally, that's it. Been working, been grinding, and we got back. Oh, Vegas. We went from Vegas last night. Want to tell them about the basketball game?

• 0:50Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, so two days ago, Garrett surprised me with WNBA tickets to go see my favorite team, the Dallas Wings in Vegas against the Aces.

• 1:00Payton Moreland?

  For those of you that don't know, I don't, I don't think I've talked about it on here, maybe only into the dark. But a couple of years ago, I discovered, I didn't discover, I fell down the women's basketball rabbit hole and became a major fan. No, I've never played basketball. No, I've never really watched basketball. But for some reason, yeah, now I'm a real big WNBA fan. And so Garrett surprised me with tickets. It was so good. The seats were so good. Like, it just was such a fun experience. We just went down for less than 24 hours. Ate good food, watched the girls.

• 1:39Garrett Moreland?

  Flew back.

• 1:39Payton Moreland?

  Flew back.

• 1:40Garrett Moreland?

  And now we're here recording.

• 1:42Payton Moreland?

  And just, we were in the shower last night and I was like, remember when we just like weren't running around with our heads cut off all the time?

• 1:50Garrett Moreland?

  I know. And now all we do is run around with our heads cut off. It's crazy.

• 1:55Payton Moreland?

  But we did get to go see the WNBA.

• 1:57Garrett Moreland?

  It was fun. It was a good game. Yeah, it was fun.

• 2:00Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 2:02Garrett Moreland?

  I mean, that's kind of all I got for my 10 seconds.

• 2:05Payton Moreland?

  Well, Garrett was watching the soccer game.

• 2:08Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, yes. I haven't talked much about it, but big World Cup fan, huge World Cup fan. Love the World Cup.

• 2:16Garrett Moreland?

  Always look forward to it. I just love it. I just think.

• 2:21Garrett Moreland?

  I don't know, for those who have never been to the World Cup, you need to try to get into it because it is, it's amazing. It's amazing. I mean, it's the most watched event ever. So you need to watch it. USA moved on to the round of 32. It's now basically single elimination. They lose, they're out. So we'll see what happens. But I mean, even if the USA like doesn't win their next game, the games are still amazing. But go USA. Let's see what happens. If I were to predict who's going to win this year, not being biased because I want the USA to win, I would say France.

• 2:59Payton Moreland?

  France?

• 3:00Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 3:00Payton Moreland?

  I did not know that they would be good footballers.

• 3:03Garrett Moreland?

  Argentina would be pretty cool, too. Does USA have a chance? Yes. Small chance? Yes. But you never know. You never know. That's my 10 seconds. Love the World Cup. Excited. Next game's gonna be amazing. It's July, next game's July 1st, right?

• 3:24Payton Moreland?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:25Garrett Moreland?

  That is on Wednesday. So Wednesday. Yeah, party here. If you want to come over, come join. On that note, let's hop into today's episode.

• 3:36Payton Moreland?

  Our sources for this episode are CNN.com, WISN.com, ABC17news.com, DailyMail.co.uk, BixburgNews.com, TheCinemaholic, People.com, GoFundMe, Shade's Voice Foundation.com, WPR.org, Capital B News.org, CBS News, USA Herald, Find a Grave, Fox6Now.com, MSN.com, and WHBL.com. Quick disclaimer, this episode includes discussions of dismemberment. So please, as always, listen with care. Now, as you guys know, Garrett and I have been married for quite a little while,

• 4:19Payton Moreland?

  but there is something about first date jitters that I sort of miss, but maybe don't miss the butterflies, the getting dressed up, what do I wear, trying to leave a lasting impression to get another date. And honestly, after Garrett and I's first day, I was really worried. Like when, when we got off our first date, I was like, I hope he liked me enough to go on a second date with me.

• 4:44Garrett Moreland?

  Dates are always like, first dates are always scary because, I mean, granted, it's been a while since I've been on a first date, but first dates are always scary because you just, you can be yourself, but like,

• 4:55Payton Moreland?

  you can't.

• 4:55Garrett Moreland?

  You don't, it's not like you should, it's not like you're just yourself. You're nervous, there's a lot going on.

• 5:00Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 5:01Garrett Moreland?

  Like,

• 5:01Payton Moreland?

  I think some people have the ability.

• 5:03Garrett Moreland?

  For sure.

• 5:03Payton Moreland?

  Not me. Like, I was, you were reserved.

• 5:07Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, I liked every, I feel like everything, majority of people are toned the back a little bit.

• 5:11Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 5:11Garrett Moreland?

  The first day, are you gonna start just doing, like seeing crazy stuff? You know what I'm saying?

• 5:16Payton Moreland?

  Yeah. I don't know.

• 5:18Garrett Moreland?

  Anyways.

• 5:18Payton Moreland?

  But I do remember like, most of the time when I would go on a first date, afterwards, I wouldn't feel like this, like immense pressure. It was more just like, either that was fun or that wasn't fun. With you, I got home and I was like, oh, I hope I, I was reevaluating everything I said and did. Cause I was like, I don't think I paid attention enough on the date. Like, I don't know if I was trying hard enough, but I wanted, I wanted to go on a second date.

• 5:43Garrett Moreland?

  We got married.

• 5:44Payton Moreland?

  I know. So maybe what I did work, I don't know. I feel like we were both pretty reserved.

• 5:49Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, I think so too.

• 5:50Payton Moreland?

  So I think deep down, most of us hope a first date will somehow lead to a happily ever after, prince charming, woman of our dreams, but not all first dates get that fairy tale ending. And some, as we'll see in today's case, actually end up more like a Stephen King novel, with an ending so disturbing, it'll make you think twice about ever going on a date again. So let me take you guys to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where in 2024, so rather recently, we meet a 19-year-old woman who is basically doing everything she can to build a future for herself.

• 6:30Payton Moreland?

  Her name is Shadé Robinson. Now, Shadé was born on May 10, 2004, and she was originally from Vicksburg, Mississippi, but she moved to Milwaukee with her family when she was around two. Now, Shadé's mother and father were never married, but they split their time with her. They co-parented her, which meant Shadé also split her time between two high schools, one in Milwaukee and another in Florida. So throughout high school, she would just kind of go back and forth between mom and dad. Okay. And then after that, graduating high school, she went on to study at Milwaukee Area Technical College,

• 7:14Payton Moreland?

  getting her degree in criminal justice. But Shadé's real goal after graduation was actually to join the Air Force. She was the kind of woman who was always thinking about her future. She was working two jobs while taking college courses, one at a pizza shop called The Pizza Shuttle, and then the other as a server at a country club where she actually worked with her younger sister, Adriana. Now, Adriana and Shadé were very close. Since they were only about three years apart, they were kind of besties. They confided in each other a lot. And Adriana looked up to Shadé. So at this point in her life,

• 7:59Payton Moreland?

  she is managing to juggle school, two jobs, paying for her own apartment and a car, and she's managing to do it with grace. Everyone who worked with Shadé said she was one of their best employees. She was extremely reliable, responsible, always in a great mood, positive attitude, someone who lifted others' spirits and motivations. So...

• 8:23Payton Moreland?

  It was really alarming when Shade didn't show up to work for her shift at the Pizza Shuttle on April 2nd, 2024. Now, just a few days before she doesn't show up for her shift, March 31st was Easter Sunday. And Adriana, her little sister, saw her that morning because they worked a shift together at the country club. And then afterwards, they got cleaned up and they actually went over to their grandparents' house for Easter dinner. Adriana said Shade was in a great mood as always. They had a beautiful Easter together. And when Shade dropped her off at home that night, she told her little sister Adriana that she loved her.

• 9:08Payton Moreland?

  And then the following morning, Monday, April 1st, we know that Shade FaceTimed her mom, Sheena. And Sheena thought her daughter was actually in an even better mood than usual, but there was nothing that like stood out as to why. And then around 9:00 AM that morning, she left her apartment for work. She got to the Pizza Shuttle at 9:15 for her shift, where she stayed until her scheduled end time of 5:00 PM. So this was basically the last day that she's having contact with people in her life. Uh, no one noticed anything unusual about her that day.

• 9:49Payton Moreland?

  And it wasn't until the following afternoon, so April 2nd, that her coworkers picked up on that something was wrong because again, Shade hadn't shown up for work. Her coworkers had tried calling her, there was no answer. They actually tried a few more times throughout the day, like as her shift went on. But her boss knew this wasn't like Shade and felt something was seriously wrong. So her fellow employees and her boss at the pizza place end up calling the police because she's not answering and she missed her shift. Now meanwhile, as they are calling the police to basically ask for a welfare check.

• 10:33Payton Moreland?

  About three miles away from the pizza shuttle where she hasn't shown up, police were dealing with another pressing incident. A woman had heard a massive car crash and a giant bang. And when she went outside to investigate, she saw flames emerging from a car. And then when police arrived a few minutes later, they found a 2020 Honda Civic with extreme fire damage. After the flames were extinguished, they obviously start investigating. And thankfully, the first thing they noticed is there was no one inside this vehicle.

• 11:13Payton Moreland?

  But they did pick up on the smell of petroleum in the interior passenger side of the car, which told them whatever had happened, they believe this fire was probably set intentionally, like in public midday, basically.

• 11:31Garrett Moreland?

  Speaking of fires, we live in Utah. There is a million fires right now and it's burning. I go outside and I just, I can't even go outside.

• 11:41Payton Moreland?

  It's scary.

• 11:41Garrett Moreland?

  It's 100 degrees, there's smoke everywhere. It's horrible. Anyway, sorry, keep going.

• 11:46Payton Moreland?

  Luckily, I don't think anyone, like any homes or anything.

• 11:50Garrett Moreland?

  No, no homes have.

• 11:51Payton Moreland?

  Really?

• 11:52Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, the homes in like Cottonwood.

• 11:53Payton Moreland?

  Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 11:54Garrett Moreland?

  Up in there.

• 11:54Payton Moreland?

  There's like two sets of fires.

• 11:56Garrett Moreland?

  Died from it, but.

• 11:57Payton Moreland?

  But things are being destroyed.

• 11:59Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 12:00Payton Moreland?

  That's just so scary.

• 12:01Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 12:02Payton Moreland?

  So they're like, okay, this is important. Someone has set this car on fire. And unfortunately, with damage this bad, they weren't really able to pull any fingerprints or DNA directly from the vehicle. But they did notice a few things inside. There was a purse, a jacket, a pair of shoes and a pair of inside out jeans with underwear, like still in the jeans, if that makes sense.

• 12:27Garrett Moreland?

  No, it makes sense. I'm just did not need that visual.

• 12:30Payton Moreland?

  Sorry.

• 12:31Garrett Moreland?

  It's okay.

• 12:32Payton Moreland?

  It's important to the case.

• 12:33Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 12:34Payton Moreland?

  With the purse still there, detectives are like, okay, so someone didn't like break into this car, rob it, and then set it on fire. So they feel like that's not really a motive. But they ran the plates, obviously, of the car for a name and they get it back quickly. It is 19-year-old Shawnee Robinson's car. Now, remember, they have just been asked to do a welfare check on 19-year-old Shawnee at the same time. But there was something even more unsettling about the car, and that was the driver's seat. It was pushed pretty far back, but as police quickly realized, Shawnee wasn't a tall girl. She was only five foot

• 13:19Payton Moreland?

  one. There was no way that she had drove this vehicle with the seat in this position. She wouldn't have even been able to reach the pedals. So the officers actually tracked down a vehicle at a dealership that was the same make and model, and they had one of their taller male detectives take a seat inside. This is how they even proved their theory that someone much taller, probably around six feet, had probably driven the car before it was set on fire. But the question is, who and where was Shawnee? Because her or her body were not in her car. Well, it's a pretty busy day for police in the Milwaukee area

• 14:00Payton Moreland?

  because there is something else happening. 11 miles from where her car was discovered, something else surfaced a few hours after the car was found. That same day, April 2, a guy was out walking with his friend along the shoreline of Lake Michigan in an area called Warnimont Park. And he called the police saying, hey, I'm walking through this park and I found something disturbing. They were walking past this rocky wooded area when they believe that they spotted a human leg.

• 14:37Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 14:37Payton Moreland?

  It's not, it's not sticking out of, it's not sticking out of the ground. It's like a human leg attached to nothing.

• 14:45Garrett Moreland?

  Just on the ground?

• 14:46Payton Moreland?

  A severed human leg on the ground.

• 14:49Garrett Moreland?

  I don't know. I feel like it would take me a second to believe.

• 14:52Payton Moreland?

  I think so, too.

• 14:53Garrett Moreland?

  Like, if I saw a leg, I would be like, that's a human leg. I'd be like, that's a...

• 14:58Payton Moreland?

  Like costume Halloween.

• 15:01Garrett Moreland?

  It's a costume, mannequin, like something. There's no way I would be like, that's a real human leg.

• 15:08Payton Moreland?

  And the thing is.

• 15:09Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 15:10Payton Moreland?

  Even when people find whole bodies, they do the same thing. Like, that's gotta be a mannequin. It's gotta be fake. There's just no way.

• 15:16Garrett Moreland?

  I don't know what's worse, finding an entire body or a leg.

• 15:20Payton Moreland?

  Cause a leg is so scary. Like, a body's scary, but a leg is scary too.

• 15:24Garrett Moreland?

  Where's the body?

• 15:25Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, that's so eerie and like, just off, you know, like, it's just, it's just uncomfortable.

• 15:31Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 15:32Payton Moreland?

  So, authorities obviously get down. Okay, so they have responded to this welfare check, this car on fire, and now they get a call that there is a leg in the park. So, they come down, they get a closer look. Now, this leg appears to have been sewn off around the hip. So, it is like a full-blown leg. The toes still have bright pink toenail polish on them, which again, is just so, that detail alone is so unsettling, because you're thinking of just this human leg, but then there's nail polish that's making it a real person, like a real person who had their toes painted or painted their toes, and now their leg is

• 16:13Payton Moreland?

  like, in this park. It's just devastating. Now, they also quickly learned that the leg belongs to a black woman who was approximately five feet tall, based on like, the length of the leg. Here's the issue, though.

• 16:29Garrett Moreland?

  Dang, that's just, that's crazy. What?

• 16:34Payton Moreland?

  Here's the issue with all of this. The Milwaukee County Sheriff's Department was the one who responded to the call about the leg, but the Milwaukee Police Department is the one who responded to the car. So, they're not necessarily putting two and two together because it's two completely different departments responding to these two incidents.

• 16:59Garrett Moreland?

  Okay, that's a problem.

• 17:00Payton Moreland?

  And it's, I mean, it's not gonna take long, but it's just not an immediate, oh, we found her car, this is now the leg, so we. Only as listeners know that. So at first the sheriff's department are like, we just have a homicide on our hands. Like there is a leg here. Where is the body? It takes them a few hours to learn that there was also a missing 19 year old woman, Shawde Robinson, whose car was also found. Now,

• 17:28Garrett Moreland?

  Upside is, I mean, that's pretty fast.

• 17:30Payton Moreland?

  Yes.

• 17:30Garrett Moreland?

  Like you're finding things quickly.

• 17:32Payton Moreland?

  At this point, there was no confirmation. The leg belonged to Shawde. Obviously, they still needed to send it out for DNA testing first. They have a hunch. They're working on a hunch. So the next move was speaking with potential witnesses like Shawde's mother, Sheena, and her sister Adriana to see, hey, you're obviously involved in her life. Do you know where she was in the hours before she disappeared? This could potentially be her leg. All right, guys, we are getting into a sponsor and it is one of my favorites, Quince. You know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself reaching for over and over again?

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• 20:25Payton Moreland?

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• 21:07Payton Moreland?

  And when they spoke to her family, they claimed Shadi didn't mention where she was going after work on the first. This is when she was last seen, was at work. But they did have access to something that might help. Shadi was using an app on her phone, Life360, which actually turns out to be more useful than the Find My app because it does keep more data. For example, when you look at Find My Friends, you can see where they are right now, but it doesn't tell you where they were at 10:00 PM yesterday. Life360 does. Like you can have a history.

• 21:43Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, I did not know that. Okay.

• 21:45Payton Moreland?

  And Shad A had been sharing her location with her family. It showed that on the night of the first, Shad A went to a place called The Twisted Fisherman. So this is after work when she was last seen. She goes to this twisted fisherman. It's a seafood restaurant. And then after this, she went to a spot called Duke's on Water. Before she ended up in a residential area near 39th and Oklahoma around 9:30 PM. And then three hours later, after going to this residential area around 12:45 AM. It's now April 2nd.

• 22:23Payton Moreland?

  Her phone left the house in the residential area and eventually ended up in the park where the leg was found. And that is where Shad A's phone eventually died at 4:35 AM that morning. So obviously, police are looking at this and they're like, this feels like a potential date night, right? Like she goes to a restaurant, a bar.

• 22:47Garrett Moreland?

  A missing leg is insane.

• 22:50Payton Moreland?

  And a phone.

• 22:51Garrett Moreland?

  Like, how are we just missing a leg?

• 22:53Payton Moreland?

  So at this point, because police are like, hey, this is tied to the leg. They actually asked the family, do you know if she frequents this like specific park? The Warnamont Park? Her family's like, no, we have no idea why her phone would leave the house at 12:45 AM and go to this park and then eventually die at the park at 4:35 AM. Now, when detectives hear this, they, their hearts obviously sink because by now they're like, ooh, the leg was found here and we have an even stronger feeling it belongs to Shad A. So now equipped with her final location information, officers went over to The Twisted Fisherman.

• 23:37Payton Moreland?

  They're like, it's time to track down security footage of her whereabouts that no one has known about. And sure enough, when they pull up the tapes from the night of the first, there was Shad A on the tapes, but she wasn't alone. Just like police had suspected, she was sitting at the bar with a white male.

• 24:01Garrett Moreland?

  It's interesting.

• 24:03Garrett Moreland?

  I mean, it happens a lot. Like, for example, it just happened to, it happens to, I'm just using this as an example, like Oliver Tree. It's weird when people die, but then they have something you can watch or listen to. Like, for example, she was killed, but then you go back and look at these videotapes.

• 24:18Payton Moreland?

  That no one's seen, no one knew.

• 24:20Garrett Moreland?

  She was just alive.

• 24:21Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 24:21Garrett Moreland?

  And then now they're dead. I know that concept can seem easy, but it's kind of weird if you start thinking about it. Like, they were alive, now they're dead. Like, they're gone. They're just not there anymore.

• 24:32Payton Moreland?

  And I think when it's an event that's affecting you personally.

• 24:36Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 24:37Payton Moreland?

  Um, cause you have some sort of tie or relationship to, to the person, it's even more hard to get, to like, wrap your head around.

• 24:45Garrett Moreland?

  Death is just such a complex thing.

• 24:47Payton Moreland?

  Yes. So, they see her with this white man, and they notice he's actually talking to the bartender quite a bit, like even more than Shadi, but despite that, it does appear that they are on a date. And then the two left the bar around 6:30 PM, headed presumably for the second location that Shadi's phone had showed her at, Dukes on Water. Now, sometime during the course of the investigation, police also got access to the text messages sent to and from Shadi's phone.

• 25:21Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 25:21Payton Moreland?

  And through her messages, they learned more about this mysterious date that no one knew about. The two, these, you know, her and this man had exchanged texts between 4:15 PM. This was before Shadi left work at the Pizza Shuttle that day. And they kept texting up until 5:18 PM. So about an hour. And during this hour exchange, the man asked, quote, "Are you hungry? I'm need to stop at Twisted Fisherman to pick up my W2 from last year, and we could eat there first." Which might explain why he was so chatty with the bartender

• 26:02Payton Moreland?

  in the footage, because apparently he'd worked there in the past. Now, after Shadi responded, "Okay, and yes, are we eating at the Brat House or the other place?" And he says, "Let's eat at Twisted, I'm feeling seafood." She replies, "Yes, I love seafood." And obviously, it doesn't take long for police to figure out who this guy is. They have his number. They know that he used to work here. The man that she was texting was 33 year old Maxwell Anderson. Now, Shade had actually just met Maxwell a few days before that date. Shade had walked into a bar looking for a new job and she met one of the bartenders,

• 26:47Payton Moreland?

  six foot one Maxwell. They chatted for a while. He ended up asking for her number. He walked her to her car. Maxwell had worked in the bar and restaurant industry for some time now. He had bought his own house on the south side of Milwaukee. And he'd actually been in the Navy for a bit, which considering Shade's aspirations to eventually join the Air Force, this could have been something they connected about. But what she likely didn't know was that, yes, Maxwell had been in the Navy, but he had also been discharged for reasons unknown. And he had a criminal record that included a DWI, disorderly conduct and domestic abuse.

• 27:28Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 27:28Payton Moreland?

  Apparently, he even had a documented history of violence towards members of his own family.

• 27:35Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, nope.

• 27:36Payton Moreland?

  And there was also an incident a few years back in 2019 when he had assaulted a stranger who had tried to intervene during an argument Maxwell was having with his then girlfriend. So he's arguing in public with his girlfriend. Someone steps in. He gets arrested for battery, ends up pleading guilty, gets a lesser charge and sentence.

• 27:59Garrett Moreland?

  I feel like it would be kind of interesting if dating apps did background checks.

• 28:05Payton Moreland?

  Yeah. But here's the thing. She met him in person at a bar.

• 28:09Garrett Moreland?

  No, for sure. And I mean, and some people too, like, wouldn't care about certain things on someone's record, but it could be like a filter. Be like, do you care about this person's background?

• 28:17Payton Moreland?

  Yes.

• 28:18Garrett Moreland?

  Yes, no.

• 28:19Payton Moreland?

  That's actually kind of smart.

• 28:20Garrett Moreland?

  All right. Any dating app listening to me and you do this, I want 3%.

• 28:26Payton Moreland?

  Here's the thing. It is like more common practice now for people to try to run background checks or do a little bit of research into who they're going to be going on a date with. But a lot of times when you meet someone in person, you get the vibe, you get the energy. He's a bartender. She probably has no reason to think that he has this decorated past of like, kind of some rough, physical altercations. And so she has probably no idea about this when she agrees to go out on a date with him after meeting him. And because of that, Shade told some friends she was excited about this date. It was probably why she was a little happy when she talked to her mom on FaceTime earlier that day.

• 29:11Payton Moreland?

  But unfortunately, as you have probably predicted, the date was the start to a terrible nightmare. Because Maxwell was the farthest thing from a prince charming. So now that we've got Maxwell and his history out of the way, I've introduced you to him. Let's go back to the date on April 1st and kind of just follow that trail. Now, after Shade and Maxwell left the Twisted Fisherman together, her Life360 app put her at another one called Dukes on Water. This is like a bar restaurant. Police also stopped by that location. They get the security footage, which shows again Maxwell and Shade playing beer pong together against another couple.

• 29:56Payton Moreland?

  Now, Shade appears to be smiling. Uh, she's definitely like out of her shell. They're kind of flirting a bit. She's loosening up is what it appears to be in this footage. At one point, Maxwell even puts his arm around her. Um, but that was the only time they like had a physical encounter that was captured on the security footage. Now, finally, the two of them wrap things up around 9:00 PM. They leave the bar. And in that footage, it's not like Shade appears to be disoriented or drunk. Obviously, police are looking to see, is it possible she was, you know, administered a date rape drug? She appears to be okay.

• 30:38Payton Moreland?

  She was also the one who drove. So the two of them get into her car. As we know, it's going to end up on fire later, but they head to a third location, according to her phone around nine 30 P. M. Per her Life 360 app, it was the residential area near 39th and Oklahoma, which because police have Maxwell's name, they also have now put two and two together that this is also where he lives. So it's safe to assume that they leave the second bar and they end up going back together to Maxwell's home. And that is where Shad's phone stayed for the next three hours. And then around 1245 a. m. Her car was spotted on surveillance cameras leaving his house.

• 31:23Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 31:23Payton Moreland?

  But also, like her phone, it doesn't go back to her apartment. It actually drives right past her building without slowing down and continues driving around the city for the next two hours, almost aimlessly. Police know this because there are several cameras throughout downtown Milwaukee that spot her car. The windows are kind of fogged up. It's dark, so it's not like they can really tell who is driving.

• 31:52Garrett Moreland?

  My guess is that he was trying to find somewhere to dump the body. I mean, obviously, right?

• 31:57Payton Moreland?

  Yeah. Finally, around 253 a. m. This was after driving around for two hours. Her car was seen parking along the Lake Michigan shoreline near Warnermont Park. And let me just say, the security footage in this case does a lot of the legwork for detectives. They really are kind of able to track this entire crime through security footage.

• 32:22Garrett Moreland?

  I love when.

• 32:24Payton Moreland?

  It's 2024.

• 32:25Garrett Moreland?

  It just makes things so much easier.

• 32:27Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 32:27Garrett Moreland?

  We know we can see the car. We can see everything. We know exactly what's going on, when it happened. Love it.

• 32:33Payton Moreland?

  And I would be like, well, we're in a city. There's tons of cameras, but nowadays there's lots of cameras in neighborhoods, too.

• 32:38Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, there's cameras.

• 32:39Payton Moreland?

  So it's getting even harder anywhere unless you're out in the middle of the country.

• 32:42Garrett Moreland?

  Someone steps an inch on my blade of grass.

• 32:46Payton Moreland?

  Notified.

• 32:47Garrett Moreland?

  I see you.

• 32:48Payton Moreland?

  You have like.

• 32:49Garrett Moreland?

  Put it back.

• 32:50Payton Moreland?

  You're like the Incredibles house. It's like alarms start going off.

• 32:53Garrett Moreland?

  I have those like, you know, those laser lines everywhere.

• 32:55Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 32:55Garrett Moreland?

  Don't even get close.

• 32:56Payton Moreland?

  Hey.

• 32:58Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 32:58Payton Moreland?

  Off topic. They just put laser lines somewhere. I just read on a highway and the lasers light up when a animal is crossing. So, and it goes along the highway. So cars know that there's an animal crossing somewhere. So they slow down. So they can't see the animal, but the animal's movement lights up the lasers.

• 33:17Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, I see. We're saying that's cool.

• 33:19Payton Moreland?

  Yeah. So it's like, it could be behind you. It could be in front of you, but either way.

• 33:22Garrett Moreland?

  That's really smart.

• 33:23Payton Moreland?

  It's so drivers can be like, there's an animal crossing somewhere. I need to slow down.

• 33:27Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 33:27Payton Moreland?

  Isn't that kind of brilliant?

• 33:28Garrett Moreland?

  Uh huh.

• 33:29Payton Moreland?

  Speaking of lasers anyways, so they are obviously tracking this through security footage. And the next camera comes from a nearby building. It shows what happens next. This next part of the case.

• 33:43Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 33:43Payton Moreland?

  Is on camera. Someone gets out of Shadi's car and they start dragging something from the car down to the lake.

• 33:53Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 33:54Payton Moreland?

  On camera. This someone appears to be a six foot tall man, obviously matching the physical stature of Maxwell Anderson.

• 34:06Garrett Moreland?

  I mean, open and shut.

• 34:08Payton Moreland?

  Right. So.

• 34:09Garrett Moreland?

  Why?

• 34:10Payton Moreland?

  I mean, it's not like you can see his face, but if one plus one equals two. So finally, he disappears off camera when he reached a path down to the beach. So he obviously ends up going off camera, but that security footage was more than enough to secure an arrest warrant for police. I mean, look at all they have. So that day, April 4th, police pulled the 33 year old Maxwell over while he was driving and they placed him under arrest. Now, do you think this next day, when he's driving and then all of a sudden, like the next day, police lights go on behind him? Do you think he it clocks?

• 34:48Garrett Moreland?

  Sure. Hundred percent.

• 34:50Payton Moreland?

  Like, do you think immediately he's like, they've somehow figured out and like this fast they've tracked me down?

• 34:55Garrett Moreland?

  I think so. I think anytime. I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I didn't do anything wrong, but the other day, I didn't tell you this, I forgot. I was driving and there was two sheriff suburbans behind me.

• 35:07Payton Moreland?

  And you're like, great, what have I done?

• 35:09Garrett Moreland?

  And they were following me, they followed me all the way through our neighborhood, like I was coming up on my house, I'm like, great.

• 35:14Payton Moreland?

  Wait, I saw those.

• 35:16Garrett Moreland?

  You saw them? Yeah.

• 35:16Payton Moreland?

  Yes, I know exactly which one you're talking about.

• 35:18Garrett Moreland?

  For zero reason, but scared me, I was like, I'm done, I'm done getting arrested, I'm going to jail forever.

• 35:22Payton Moreland?

  What have I done? I have no idea, but they're telling me.

• 35:25Garrett Moreland?

  Please don't follow me, they didn't follow me, I didn't do anything wrong, but still, you just, yeah, a hundred percent, he was like, oh.

• 35:32Payton Moreland?

  And do you think it's like, mind blowing to him? Or do you, like, do you think he's like, how?

• 35:37Garrett Moreland?

  I think it's like, I think, no, I think they're like, I got caught, or it's like, how can I get out of this? Like, what can I do?

• 35:45Payton Moreland?

  Cause for a reference, like when Brian Kolberger got pulled over two times on his way driving home. It had been some time since the murders, and so I feel like it would be more reasonable for him to be like, they figured it out by now, and now they're pulling me over. Which was not the case, those were just ended up somehow being too random, but this one is so fast, I don't know if he's like, I just did this, and somehow they're pulling me over and bringing me into the station. So they place him under arrest, and he is later charged with arson, first degree intentional homicide, and mutilation of a corpse. So right away, they hit him with all three.

• 36:23Garrett Moreland?

  It's over, it is over.

• 36:25Payton Moreland?

  He asks for a lawyer immediately, he refuses to cooperate, but officers were already working on another strategy. Getting inside Maxwell's house, now that he's in custody to try and collect evidence, again, this crime just happened. Though, when they finally do get in his house, it's not what they expected. They imagined they would walk into a bloody crime scene, they have a leg, it has been severed. They were like, this has to be some type of botched cleanup job, but it wasn't the case. Inside the home, there were no signs of distress, no clear indication of foul play, no like, half cleaned up job. There were a lot of knives in the house, but detectives felt none of.

• 37:07Payton Moreland?

  Then would have even been sharp enough or equipped to dismember a body, assuming the leg does belong to a shot A. And there's no signs of blood. Now, at one point, it was rumored that they did find some blood on a wall in Maxwell's home, but it was later tested and it came back saying it wasn't a match for shot A. So it was actually blood from a dog, which still, oh, like, I don't unders- I don't understand, but we don't have the story on that. But regardless, none of this is great because they were hoping they were going to get into his apartment. They wouldn't even need to talk to him because they would just find like a handful of evidence,

• 37:48Payton Moreland?

  but that wasn't the case. They're starting to second guess themselves after they don't find a shred of evidence that Shadi was killed in this house because they believed this was their crime scene. Now, meanwhile, Shadi's friends and family felt the police just weren't doing enough to try and find the rest of Shadi's body, which kind of makes sense because they feel like it's all in one place. Like they don't feel like it's been scattered. So they kept searching for themselves and little by little, more chilling evidence begins to surface. On April 5th and 6th, less than a mile from where Shadi's car was found, they found a human foot. On April 7th,

• 38:28Payton Moreland?

  more remains were discovered just a few blocks away, also in the center of the city. And around that same time, Shadi-

• 38:36Garrett Moreland?

  More remains, like in a different area?

• 38:38Payton Moreland?

  It was a few blocks away, but yes, like-

• 38:41Garrett Moreland?

  It just remains scattered all over?

• 38:42Payton Moreland?

  Well, and also, you know, when I'm thinking about the foot was found, it's obviously from her other leg because her foot was attached to-

• 38:49Garrett Moreland?

  Gosh.

• 38:51Payton Moreland?

  And I don't know why there's something about the fact that this severing didn't happen in like uniform?

• 38:57Garrett Moreland?

  No, I think it did. I think he just dumped it in different areas.

• 39:00Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, but one's a leg and one's a foot with like, one's a leg with a foot attached and one's just a foot. You're not even cutting the same, like, I don't know. That just feels so scat, like- I don't know.

• 39:12Garrett Moreland?

  Dude.

• 39:13Payton Moreland?

  Yeah. And then also he just drug this out and just scattered them randomly around like around the same area, basically.

• 39:20Garrett Moreland?

  Same.

• 39:21Payton Moreland?

  So finally, they also find that one of her friends, Kiki, was out searching and they found a blanket with Shadi's face on it. It was one of the blankets that she used to own. So finally, on April 12th, the Milwaukee County Sheriff made a public announcement. The results from this severed leg that was initially found were in and they confirmed to belong to Shadi Robinson. Three days later, on April 15th, a bunch of people stood outside of Maxwell Anderson's home, holding posters, balloons, photos of Shadi. I mean, there's a clear suspect, obviously. The case is getting so much attention. A lot of people were driving

• 40:02Payton Moreland?

  by Maxwell's house to see where this gruesome crime had supposedly taken place. Instead, Shadi's loved ones wanted to give them something else to gawk at. So that's why they set up this entire thing for Shadi outside of the house. They called it a pink out. It was based on her favorite color. And I just, yeah, after this Maxwell's front lawn becomes a memorial for the life he had taken. So people just begin, yeah, memorializing her at this place. So when people are driving by, it's to remember her. Or so it seemed. The police and prosecutors were still hoping to gather more evidence that would implicate Maxwell in the crime. And luckily, just a short while after Maxwell

• 40:45Payton Moreland?

  was arrested, someone came forward. This was someone who knew him well and was horrified when she saw his name on the news as a suspect in a murder case. Her name was Chloe Wright. Apparently she had dated Maxwell for a little over a year.

• 41:02Garrett Moreland?

  Wait, she was a murder suspect?

• 41:04Payton Moreland?

  No, she was his ex-girlfriend.

• 41:06Garrett Moreland?

  Okay, sorry. I heard that wrong.

• 41:08Payton Moreland?

  So she sees the news about Shadi. She sees that Maxwell has been arrested, his primary suspect in this murder. She reaches out to police. She tells them Maxwell never got physically violent with her, but he did get Very verbally and emotionally abusive, which was just one step short. She told them he made comments about her weight and looks. She she's basically like, listen, I want to tell you just about who this guy is, how crappy of a person he is. Basically, like,

• 41:36Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 41:36Payton Moreland?

  He never physically hurt me, but he's a bad person. Like, he just is not a good person. So she tells them this, hoping it would just kind of push the case along. She told them that back when they were still together, Maxwell used to talk about this secret beach that he loved. He told her he wanted to take her camping there in the spring when the weather got warmer, that it was his tiny sliver of paradise that hardly anyone else knew about. And eventually, he did take her there. She drove them and he gave her step by step directions. But Chloe remembered the place he took her. That was his favorite place.

• 42:12Garrett Moreland?

  No way. There's no way.

• 42:15Payton Moreland?

  The beach where the body parts were found.

• 42:17Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 42:17Payton Moreland?

  She's like, yeah, so this is the worst part of all of this. That's his favorite beach where he found her body. So now police were thinking, hey, what if the crime actually took place there?

• 42:29Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 42:30Payton Moreland?

  What if he had done something to shoddy at his apartment, like knocked her out? I don't know, something took her to the secret beach and then committed the crime there. Well, as the days pass, the more likely this scenario actually becomes. Because on April 18th, a person walking along the beach near the park spots a torso and an arm that is on the shoreline, which are later tested again to confirm that it's her. And on May 11th, another arm washes up 50 miles away. So.

• 43:04Garrett Moreland?

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• 46:17Payton Moreland?

  they've gathered. They're like, we're pretty sure this is Maxwell. Now, on this tape, he's wearing a backpack and a gray jacket, and they actually find him on a different tape, wearing the same outfit. The jacket that he's seen wearing was later found in a neighbor's trash can, but the backpack and the rest of the clothes he was seen in the like, in the footage was never recovered. However, the jacket told enough. It was tested. It had Shawday's DNA on the inside of the hood and on the zipper. This isn't a total smoking gun. We know she was at his house hanging out with him. But you know what was a smoking gun? The photos they found on his cell

• 46:58Garrett Moreland?

  No way. He took photos of the body?

• 47:00Payton Moreland?

  He had tried to delete them. Nothing ever goes away. He clearly wasn't successful. Nothing ever goes away, especially when police can contact a company.

• 47:09Garrett Moreland?

  Not these days.

• 47:10Payton Moreland?

  Turns out Maxwell had taken a photo of Shawday inside his house unconscious. She's face down, her arm over her head. He's, I'll just say groping her in the photo.

• 47:25Payton Moreland?

  Now, we don't know whether she's alive or dead at this point. Like, obviously, this is a mystery, but he's documenting a photo of him with an unconscious body.

• 47:36Garrett Moreland?

  Well, she's dead. Oh, I guess she's not dead yet. Well, we don't know.

• 47:39Payton Moreland?

  Just disrespecting it. Like, he has absolutely zero remorse. There's no, something's wrong. Something is very, he is not okay. But there was still one giant question mark hanging over this case. Was this random? Like, do you really go on a first date and murder someone? Or had Maxwell Anderson planned this? Well, according to a confidential informant who spoke to the police, Maxwell had actually told him about his plans to kill a woman he had recently met. This is before he got arrested. He had told a friend that he wanted to kill a girl. Maxwell even showed the informant a room in his basement. He's like, this is where I'm gonna do it.

• 48:21Payton Moreland?

  Apparently, the room was quote, "covered in plastic painter tarp" that was taped to the floors, the walls, the ceilings, I think Dexter, which would explain why none of Sade's blood was found in the home yet, because if he actually did kill her in an already pre-prepared room, it's a lot easier to hide evidence. There were three saws that might have been used and then disposed of. The informant told police how Maxwell was gonna do it. He said he was gonna go on a date with her, invite her back to his place, pull out a gun, force her into the basement, and then dismember her there before spreading her remains throughout a city. Now, this is an anonymous-

• 49:00Garrett Moreland?

  Like, why?

• 49:02Payton Moreland?

  This is an anonymous informant, so we don't know, but it clearly matches the story and also would explain the lack of evidence found at his house.

• 49:11Garrett Moreland?

  I just don't know why, like, he just, I'm guessing he just wanted to kill?

• 49:15Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 49:15Garrett Moreland?

  Like, I mean, he probably doesn't say why, cuz he's probably claiming innocence or something.

• 49:20Payton Moreland?

  Now, after hearing this, police actually go back to Maxwell's home, and they go to the basement, right? Cuz this informant said it happened in the basement. They recover a few items, including swabs from a leather couch, as well as some debris from a sewer pipe under the house. And while I know some of this evidence was used during his trial, I'm not sure if any of it actually matched DNA. But, again, like Garrett just asked, why would he do this? Why Sade, someone he had literally just met? Unfortunately, Maxwell never gave a concrete answer. There was, however, one clue from the date that might be tied to a motive. Apparently, at some point that evening, Maxwell turned on a Netflix series called Love,

• 50:04Payton Moreland?

  Death, and Robots. The finale in season two has an episode called "The Drowned Giant." It shows a giant human body on a beach getting dismembered.

• 50:16Garrett Moreland?

  Gosh.

• 50:17Payton Moreland?

  Now, this can't be a coincidence, right? Like, this is what he puts on that night, and this is what's happening on the show. Now Maxwell Anderson's trial began on May 27th, 2025. Nine days of trial, the jury goes off to deliberate. The following morning, they're back with a verdict. Maxwell Anderson was found guilty of first degree murder, mutilating a corpse, hiding a corpse and arson.

• 50:40Garrett Moreland?

  I mean, open and shut, like it was obvious. Yeah.

• 50:42Payton Moreland?

  Now, after the conviction, the judge reads a statement that Maxwell had made to an investigator.

• 50:48Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 50:49Payton Moreland?

  Said he regretted not walking Shadi to her car that night because he believes from the time she left his house and walked to his car, that's when she was taken by her real murderer.

• 51:00Garrett Moreland?

  There is no way this guy is trying to deny it.

• 51:03Payton Moreland?

  He's like, I was set up. Now, during the sentencing hearing, both Shadi's sister Adriana and her mother Sheena spoke. Adriana said this, quote, "When Maxwell Anderson murdered my sister, he redefined my definition of misfortune. He made it to where I cannot meet any person without the fear that they are now going to harm or kill me because all my sister did was meet someone and as a result, he ended her life. He tried to erase her existence and her value. Now I no longer have the opportunity to try and give her everything that she gave me." Sheena, her mom, meanwhile, said, quote, "You disrespectfully spread my daughter across Milwaukee like a piece of trash."

• 51:49Payton Moreland?

  Which that statement alone is just-

• 51:51Garrett Moreland?

  So sad. I mean, I, I just think these people deserve so much worse than life in prison, but

• 52:00Garrett Moreland?

  that's just me.

• 52:02Payton Moreland?

  She said, "How dare you? I'm going to respectfully request that you confess where my daughter's crown is." Now Sheena's referring to a piece of her daughter that is still missing, that hasn't been found.

• 52:17Garrett Moreland?

  Yes.

• 52:18Payton Moreland?

  And that is her daughter's head. Now, even after hearing these statements, Maxwell maintained he was innocent. Judge doesn't agree. He sentences him to life behind bars with no chance of parole.

• 52:31Garrett Moreland?

  That's horrible. That's absolutely horrible. I hate that. I hate when- Like the ego, like you're going to prison for life and you're still gonna have an ego. It's crazy to me.

• 52:44Payton Moreland?

  Now, unfortunately, after all is said and done, there were some things in this case that could have gone differently, maybe made a big difference. The first is Shawnee was 19 and went to two bars that night and was served alcohol, which her mom was like, how is that even happening? She also wasn't notified by police right away about her own daughter's disappearance. Remember how the coworkers called? It's not like anyone called her and said, hey, do you know where she is? Yeah. But here's the thing, this is such a sticking point that Sheena actually pushed for legislative change. She's like, even if my daughter is an adult, why, why can't you alert everyone in her life?

• 53:26Payton Moreland?

  That something's wrong. So through the nonprofit she started for Shawnee called Shawnee's Voice Foundation, Sheena's been working with state representatives to reform how police handle missing persons cases, particularly those for black women and women of color. The bill will help create a task force specifically designed to study the disproportionate victimization of women. And it will change how missing persons cases are processed and prioritized. The reality is there's just not enough help or support. And that needs to change.

• 54:04Payton Moreland?

  Even after losing Shawnee, the family was faced with more challenges and pain. Sheena had asked county officials to sponsor a memorial for their daughter, asking, hey, can we do a public memorial, $7,000? And they agreed to put together a proposal. But once the public caught wind of this, they were like, yeah, absolutely. We're not paying for this. We don't want our taxpayer dollars going to this. So as a result, the family told them to pull the proposal. They're like, we're getting a bunch of hate. We'll find a different way to honor her.

• 54:34Garrett Moreland?

  Bro.

• 54:34Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 54:35Garrett Moreland?

  Who cares? Someone's, someone just.

• 54:38Payton Moreland?

  Listen.

• 54:38Garrett Moreland?

  What? Someone's daughter just died.

• 54:40Payton Moreland?

  You can take my tax dollars to memorialize uh someone who was murdered.

• 54:45Garrett Moreland?

  My tax dollars is not going to the street out there. It looks like crap.

• 54:49Payton Moreland?

  And also like, this is justice. This is a part of the world we live in. Someone murdered someone else? This is important to put a light on. Like if there is someone to memorialize.

• 55:02Payton Moreland?

  A victim of murder.

• 55:03Garrett Moreland?

  Someone who just got killed.

• 55:05Payton Moreland?

  And killed in the way she did and discarded the way she did.

• 55:09Garrett Moreland?

  It looks crazy.

• 55:09Payton Moreland?

  That is important to a community in, in my opinion. Now, her memorial is now being funded privately through community donations and a GoFundMe. So I did link it if you are interested, but for now there is a mural honoring Shadi that sits outside her old job at the pizza shuttle and her family has been working hard to preserve her legacy through Shadi's Voice Foundation, which offers things like self-defense classes, art therapy, scholarships, emergency healing funds. If you want to learn more about it and take a second to honor her memory, I have also linked that as well.

• 55:48Payton Moreland?

  So please feel free to go check out those links in the episode description. And that is the devastating case of Shadi Robinson.

• 55:59Garrett Moreland?

  This one was really just zero reason, absolute zero reason. Like he just wanted to kill somebody, like straight up serial killer type vibes.

• 56:10Payton Moreland?

  Just a bad person.

• 56:11Garrett Moreland?

  Just absolute insanity.

• 56:12Payton Moreland?

  You know.

• 56:13Garrett Moreland?

  No, it's insane.

• 56:14Payton Moreland?

  We've talked about how we see criminals differently on this show before, but this is a time where Garrett being like, I wish there was something more that could be done. I, I'm like, how do you, this is so senseless. This is so.

• 56:32Garrett Moreland?

  And he's just gonna live his life in prison and probably enjoy most of it.

• 56:36Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 56:36Garrett Moreland?

  This is not okay. No, nope. Not okay with that.

• 56:39Payton Moreland?

  And like, look at everything he did.

• 56:41Garrett Moreland?

  Going somewhere.

• 56:42Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, everything he did.

• 56:43Garrett Moreland?

  Keeping this dude alive for zero reason.

• 56:46Payton Moreland?

  Okay.

• 56:47Garrett Moreland?

  To we are. Get him out of here. Get him out. Disagree with me? That's fine. I don't care.

• 56:53Payton Moreland?

  So let's take some time today to remember Shadi for who she was. And, you know, just think of everyone involved in the reality of all of this and then also checking out the resources that her family have put out there to, you know, try and make a difference. Thank you so much for watching today's episode or listening and I will see you next time with another one. I love it.

• 57:19Garrett Moreland?

  And I hate it.

• 57:19Payton Moreland?

  Goodbye.

• 57:28Speaker 00

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• 57:32Speaker 01

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