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Nathaniel, a college student and wildlife biology major from Kentucky, shares multiple encounters with unidentified creatures and strange phenomena while hunting in Appalachian public lands. In late November 2024, sitting in a tree stand, he watched a massive, jet-black canine creature with bobcat-like ears drop down to all fours and stalk toward a deer bedding area before letting out a deep, woman-like scream. A hunting companion nearby experienced the exact same sudden forest silence at the same time. The guest describes later encounters in late 2025 involving hovering apple-green lights the size of cantaloupes, followed by heavy bipedal footsteps and being paced through the brush.
The host and guest discuss the anatomical impossibility of canines walking upright like humans, the strange phenomenon of forests going dead silent before an encounter, and whether these events have a physical, interspecies, or demonic origin. The conversation highlights the psychological toll these terrifying experiences take on experienced hunters, leading them to alter their routines, carry firearms and bibles, and avoid deep public land entirely.
The episode opens with the host welcoming listeners and setting the stage for the upcoming interview.
The host introduces Nathaniel, a Kentucky hunter, and previews his 2024 encounter with a mysterious creature.
Nathaniel explains his hunting routine, the terrain, and how he ended up in a new area after spooking a buck.
Nathaniel describes spotting a black, bipedal figure, its unusual posture, and the eerie silence that followed.
He gives a close‑up account of the creature’s size, ears, and movement, noting its wolf‑like yet unnatural characteristics.
Nathaniel speculates that the creature was stalking deer, then shifted focus to him, and eventually backed away.
The host suggests the creature might be a dogman and that the earlier wood knocks and scream could have come from a Sasquatch.
Both discuss how the forest suddenly went quiet, a common report in predator encounters, and its implications.
Nathaniel reflects on how the experiences have changed his hunting habits and his reliance on faith for protection.
He recounts a 2025 night hunt where he saw green lights and was followed by an unseen presence.
The host describes his unsettling first experience walking through the woods and feeling watched.
He explains why he now hunts close to roads instead of deep public land.
A Bipedal Creature Stalks Through Timberstory
The guest describes seeing a black, humanoid-shaped figure walk through the timber before dropping down onto all fours like a wolf, displaying massive hind legs and sharp ears.
Unusual Ears and Wolf-Like Stalkinginsight
The creature moved in a crouched stalking position with ears as sharp as a bobcat's, appearing much larger than any known local predator.
While hiking out after the encounter, the guest heard a terrifying yell that sounded like a deep woman's scream with a shrill howl at the end.
Studying Wolf Anatomy in Classdata
Just a month before the encounter, the guest had studied wolf physiology and anatomy in his wildlife biology degree program, making him acutely aware of how wrong the creature's build was.
Heavy Footsteps Pacing in the Darkstory
While running back to his truck, the guest heard heavy, two-footed thumps keeping pace with him just outside the tree line.
“I was like, that is not a coyote. That's not a melanistic coyote. That's not a wolf. What is this?”
“I was just walking along this county road and it was surrounded by both sides. There was one on the left side was an old cornfield that was growing up now.”
“I heard like a grunt, like a, I was like, oh, that's, that's not normal.”
“And I saw a figure just kind of running through the woods, like tree to tree. And it was,”
“I never go in the woods without a pistol or a gun. And, uh, I get really sketched out now easily by a lot of things.”
“I think a lot of times hunters will have an encounter and they're like, I'm never going back there again. But then they'll drive three miles up the road and be like, okay, I'm going to hunt here.”
Nathaniel writes "I've been listening to your podcast for about five years now, and over that time I've had multiple encounters that I've never really known what to make of. Recently I listened to Episode 769 with the wildlife biologist, and the way he described some of his experiences was almost exactly what I've seen. I'm also currently in school to become a wildlife biologist myself, so hearing that episode finally convinced me to reach out and share a couple of my experiences. I have several others, but there are two that stand out above the rest. If you're interested, I'd be happy to share the others another time. I've spent my entire life hunting and fishing, and I'm currently going into my junior year of college here in Kentucky. During deer season I'm usually in the woods four or five days a week after classes, hunting a large Wildlife Management Area (WMA) surrounding a nearby lake. I'm primarily a bowhunter, and at the time I never carried a firearm because, realistically, this is Kentucky we don't have many large predators that would make me feel like I needed one. My first encounter happened in late November of 2024, around the end of Kentucky's gun season. I got to the woods around 2:00 p.m., and it took me roughly an hour to hike into my spot. It was about a mile back through some extremely thick, nasty terrain, which is exactly why I hunt there it keeps me away from other hunters. After pushing through about 12 acres of dense cedar thicket, I reached the entrance to a deep holler. I climbed about 20 feet up into my climber stand and had only been sitting for around 10 minutes when I realized everything had gone completely silent. There were no birds, no squirrels, no movement nothing. The woods just seemed dead. A few moments later I heard two distinct wood knocks off to my front left. I thought it was strange, but I brushed it off. Then, two or three minutes later, I noticed what looked like a bipedal figure walking through the woods roughly 100 yards away. My first thought was that it was another hunter or maybe a hiker, since I was on public land. I looked away for just a second to scan the rest of the woods, and when I looked back, the figure was gone. In its place was what I can only describe as an enormous, jet-black wolf or something that looked like one. I've seen plenty of coyotes over the years, and through school and visits to zoos I've seen wolves as well. This wasn't either of those. It was significantly larger than any coyote I've ever seen, and something about its proportions just looked wrong. The shape of its head, the size of it, and the way it carried itself immediately stood out to me. It was only about 50 yards away, so I could see it clearly. The eyes were unusually large and locked directly onto me the entire time. It never looked away. It was crouched low, almost like a canine stalking prey, and it slowly moved from my left to my right, heading toward the cedar thicket. The entire time it stayed on all fours. Then it walked into the cedars…and simply disappeared. I don't mean it ran off or I lost sight of it because of distance. It was just gone. At that point I decided I was done for the day. I called my parents to let them know I was heading out, climbed down as quickly as I could, and started making my way back toward the truck. As I climbed about halfway up the ridge, I stopped for a moment to look around and get a better view of my surroundings. That's when I heard something I'll never forget. The best way I can describe it is a cross between a woman's scream and a howl, but much deeper than either. It was unlike anything I've ever heard before, and I've spent my entire life outdoors. The sound immediately put me into full panic mode. I took off running and didn't stop until I got back to my truck. A hike that had taken me about an hour going in took me roughly 30 minutes coming out. I didn't return to the woods for the rest of that deer season. I've had several other experiences since then, with one in particular being much more significant. It involved being followed while leaving the woods and seeing what many people describe as "orbs" in that same area. I know this is a lot to read, and I realize it sounds unbelievable. These aren't exactly Sasquatch encounters, but after hearing Episode 769 I felt like I should finally reach out. If you're interested, I'd be glad to tell you about the rest of what I've experienced."
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