The Naked Fun: Streaking's GOAT Bares His Soul

He's stripped at the Super Bowl and evaded the authorities at Wimbledon. He danced in a tutu at the Olympics and raced alongside Usain Bolt. But Mark Roberts is more than the world's most notorious streaker. Because his memories of mischief contain multitudes. About how to challenge authority, then laugh with the cops. About how to find yourself, lose yourself... and love what it means to be a fan all over again. • Subscribe to Pablo Torre Finds Out on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PabloTorreFindsOut • Subscribe to Pablo's newsletter: https://www.pablo.show/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:01Pablo Torre?

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• 2:52Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 2:53Pablo Torre?

  Hello.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  Hello, Mr. Pablo.

• 2:57Pablo Torre?

  Mark Roberts, finally.

• 2:59Speaker 01

  At last, after all this time, man.

• 3:03Pablo Torre?

  I am so.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  It's gonna be worth it, I'm telling you now.

• 3:06Pablo Torre?

  Oh, no, no, no, the pleasure is all on this end. Can you explain where we are reaching you right now? Where are you, man?

• 3:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm in Liverpool, where I live, beaches, not far from Manchester. We don't talk about Manchester around these parts.

• 3:20Pablo Torre?

  Well, the great exports from Liverpool, of course, it's, it's the Beatles followed by, let me just say this objectively, the undisputed greatest nudist in modern civilization.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Entertainer, not nudist. I don't do beaches. There's not enough people on them.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  I'm a performance artist.

• 3:47Pablo Torre?

  You are a man with an unparalleled resume, public in private, public in his privates. It is a remarkable delight, Mark Roberts, even though you're wearing a shirt to have you on Pablo Torre Finds Out.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  Sorry to disappoint.

• 4:01Pablo Torre?

  What is the alternate timeline? What is the Mark Roberts who never streaked at the Rugby Sevens final in Hong Kong? What is the life, what is the job you're doing right now, do you think?

• 4:13Speaker 01

  My normal job.

• 4:15Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  I'm a painter, painter decorator. I make people's houses look lovely, make them look nice. And a couple of people have even asked me to do it naked. And the one thing I guarantee, I never leave any streaks on my work. And my painting name is Vincent Van Cock.

• 4:38Pablo Torre?

  Just to get the visuals for people who are merely listening and not watching on YouTube, although I should tell them, everybody listening, it is safe to watch on YouTube, at least for now. Your exhibitionism, your entertainment, your way of life, typically, this is a characteristic that one might presume originates from a desire to brag, from a desire to flaunt what you got down there.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  Not at all. Nothing to do with that whatsoever. I just happen to find I can make tens of thousands of people laugh by running naked. For me, I don't even think about being naked, to be honest. I mean, when I'm naked, it looks like there's nothing there anyway. But I can make stadiums roar with laughter by doing something crazy in the space of a minute. It's not a case of, "Look at me." It's a case of taking the piss out of authority, but also enhancing some kind of sporting event.

• 5:40Pablo Torre?

  For those who are wondering, your endowment is something you would describe as what?

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Chicken McNuggets.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  It's definitely a Happy Meal.

• 6:13Pablo Torre?

  Part of the reason why I wanted to talk to you is because there was an article recently in The Atlantic called "The Decline of Streaking," in which academics declared it as such, "a quote-unquote 'dying art that now remains,' quote, 'on the sporting periphery.'" And I wonder how you feel about you being now, yourself, this endangered species?

• 6:35Speaker 01

  Well, I've always been an endangered species, to be honest with you, Pablo. But as far as streaking's concerned, in the 70s, early 80s, it was a trend for a while. I took it up in the early 90s to the present day, but not so much now. I used to be very, very prolific every year. Every time I did something, it make news all over the world.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  Little disturbance here in the arena and there's a slight delay before the gamers owns.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  I've been doing it for now, what, thirty-three years, 578 times in 27 countries. I've done everything. I've done three Olympics. I've raced Usain Bolt. You know, I've done, I've done, I've done it all.

• 7:20Pablo Torre?

  I can't speak for Liverpool, but I have a hope that maybe we can make America streak again.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  If America can't do it, who can? I will lead the way if you want. I will come and we'll do a mass streak in front of the White House.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  Let's do that ridiculous president that you've got. Let's streak him. I streaked in front of the Queen three times and the third time she went, oh, look, there's Mark.

• 7:47Pablo Torre?

  Mark, I want to get into the history of this because you are a part of an ancient tradition. And you could date it back to, I don't know, Lady Godiva, right? Naked on a horse. I could go back to certainly the American college system. At Harvard, there is a tradition before exams every year called Primal Scream, in which all the Harvard students streak Harvard Yard. My roommate streaked Harvard Yard with goldenphallus.com written across his back in no small homage, no small homage to the man that I am talking to today. But it's Princeton, it's Maryland, it's Michigan, it's Notre Dame.

• 8:31Pablo Torre?

  Everybody has their version of streaking in college.

• 8:34Speaker 05

  Sorry, we're going, we're going streaking through the quad and into the gymnasium. Come on, everybody. Come on.

• 8:42Speaker 01

  You see, before I'd even thought about streaking, going on this adventure, I didn't know anything about it. I, I remember vaguely, America was a very, very instrumental in the streaking craze, as you know, in the 70s. And, and so I'm surprised it didn't happen in the 60s.

• 9:02Pablo Torre?

  Free love and all that, yeah.

• 9:05Pablo Torre?

  It seems, Mark, that the first streak at a sporting event was on your side of the pond. It was 1974, Twickenham, otherwise known as the international home of rugby.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  Michael O'Brien, he was an accountant, not very iconic, because he looks like Jesus, with the policeman with his helmet over his willy. The guy has turned around and said it's the worst thing he ever did in his life. I think it cost him his job, caused problems with his relationship. But you know what, I'd lose my job for something like that. There's a lady called Erica Rowe.

• 9:38Pablo Torre?

  Erica Rowe, 82, Twickenham.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  At a big rugby game in the UK, she had very big breasts. She ran on the field with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth.

• 9:50Pablo Torre?

  She was smoking a cigarette.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  I've met the lady, actually, years later.

• 9:54Pablo Torre?

  The police officers here, I assume, are a lot happier to see her, all of her, than they are to see Mark Roberts.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  Well, I don't know. Every time I get arrested, the police beg me not to stop. The police love what I do.

• 10:09Pablo Torre?

  Allegedly.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  And this is straight up serious. They love it.

• 10:13Pablo Torre?

  Why do they love it, Mark?

• 10:14Speaker 01

  Because they're laughing their heads off like everybody else in the stadium. When they're chasing me, they're absolutely in stitches.

• 10:24Pablo Torre?

  I want to just ask you about one of the other famous 70s episodes, The Oscars Streaker.

• 10:31Speaker 06

  The award for the best picture is never lightly given.

• 10:36Pablo Torre?

  Right, so you're familiar with his work?

• 10:39Speaker 01

  I am. I've seen it a few times.

• 10:41Pablo Torre?

  It's 1974.

• 10:42Speaker 06

  contributor to world entertainment, and someone quite likely...

• 10:47Pablo Torre?

  He flashes the peace sign on national TV, and it's just like a very awkward cutaway, but we do have this still frame in which this mustachioed, long-haired gentleman is flashing the peace sign over the right shoulder of David Niven, the host.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  That's cool, man, yeah.

• 11:01Pablo Torre?

  And David Niven says...

• 11:02Speaker 06

  The probably the only laugh that man will ever get in his life is by stripping off and showing his shortcomings.

• 11:11Speaker 01

  That's up there, that's near the top. Actually getting onstage at the Oscars, that's a feat in itself. But doing it, peace sign, that's gotta be, it's not a 10, it's eight and a half, nine.

• 11:23Pablo Torre?

  The statistics here, right? So it's been more than 33 years you've been doing this, 578 streaks since you popped your streaking cherry, as it were. That first time, how vividly do you remember your first time? Where were you?

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Like it was yesterday, literally like it was yesterday, man. That day changed my life. 1993, Hong Kong, man, yeah. It was, that was the island, Hong Kong Island then, was, that was the place to be in the whole, on the planet. I mean, from a drunken day in a bar the night before, to getting dragged out of the apartment. I had no intentions of streaking, it was, I was drunk, talking, talking [BLEEP] basically. Gets home at 4 a.m., told everyone I was gonna streak at the final, the Rugby Sevens. Comatose on the couch at 4 a.m. Next thing, just banging on with the apartment door. Come on, we're going to Sevens.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  I couldn't open my eyes, I was, I was gone, still gone. No, open the door, I'm gonna kick this [BLEEP] door in. So as I've opened the door, I'm still dressed from the night before, because I was lying on the couch. My friends just grabbed hold of me, threw me in the elevator, straight into a waiting taxi, straight to the stadium. So I've got in the stadium and I'm like, what the [BLEEP] is going on? I wasn't together, I couldn't hardly open my eyes. Take me to the bar. So I've gone straight to the bar, I've had a beer, that's made me feel worse. I've had another beer, didn't do any good at all, man. So I had a shot, that sort of got me a little bit level. So I said, I'm gonna look into the stadium, because I hadn't even seen it.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  But as I've stuck me head in, to the stadium.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  Wow, man. Well, the first things I saw was a guy with a French flag round his shoulders, swinging a live chicken round his head. I'm going, "What the f***, man?" Everyone's partying, throwing beer at each other, it was a carnival. Full of energy, everybody was buzzing. So I've woken up from this drunken stupor. I said to my friend, "I'm gonna do it now." So I've gone down the main stand, there's 65,000 people in the stadium. Took me clothes off, and I've ran on. While the New Zealand All Blacks were playing South Africa, the two biggest rugby teams in the world. So I've ran on backwards, waved to everybody, "Okay, I've done it." But as I turned round, there's the ball.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  So my head just went, "Get that f***ing ball, man." So I've ran, picked up the ball, run a whole length of the field and scored a try, scored a touchdown in between the posts. The whole crowd went absolutely nuts. Everyone's on their feet screaming their heads off. I was like, "Wow, man." I was like, I just started to wave. So I'm running back to my seat. Some of the All Blacks were applauding. I took the ball and the best team in the world scored against them. Jumped back over the barrier. So next thing, I thought, "Shit, I've got me f*** out." So I'm covering myself up. Girls are going over kissing me and hugging me, people are pouring beers over my head.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  I went, "No, this is fantastic, man, I didn't give a f*** it." So there's an English policeman walking along and he's going, he's motioning for me to go. I'm going, "No," because now I'm feeling the energy, now I'm buzzing. Now I'm staying here, no. He's come to me, said, "Listen, I gave you the opportunity to go. I'm gonna have to throw you out the stadium." I said, "I don't give a f*** it." As he's taking me out, the whole stadium, "Leave him alone, leave him alone." 65,000 people, he's taking me down a tunnel, I heard, "Streaker." I've looked up, there's a guy with two jugs of Carlsberg, bang, one one over me, one one over the cop. Cop is laughing his head off. As he's taking me out the door, somebody shook my hand and put something in the palm of my hand.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  So the policeman said, "If I see you in here again, I'm gonna arrest you." I said, "No, no, I'm done." So as he threw me out one turnstile, I've looked at my hand, it was a free pass. So I've come back in the next turnstile, come straight back in, jumped on and did it again.

• 15:37Pablo Torre?

  You streaked again?

• 15:38Speaker 01

  Did it again, man, yeah. Didn't go to try a second time though. I just liked it.

• 15:44Pablo Torre?

  I just need to acknowledge here and jump in that this formative revelation begins with you seeing this almost biblical symbol of a guy waving a live chicken over his head. And it culminates, it climaxes in you swinging your own [BLEEP] around in public.

• 16:07Speaker 01

  Swinging my [BLEEP] around?

• 16:08Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 16:10Speaker 01

  Are you swinging a [BLEEP]? I'm swinging my [BLEEP].

• 16:14Pablo Torre?

  I want to just get into your psychology just for a second here. Your intentions when you hit the field, the court, the track, what's the physiological kind of description you would give?

• 16:28Speaker 01

  Man, the adrenaline before I go on Pablo is nuts. My heart is beating like you would like bongo drums, man. But I've got to look normal, very calm, just like every other member of the public. I can't bring any attention to myself. All I'm doing is looking, watching security out the corner of my eyes. I've picked a place to go on. If that place is taken by security, I've got to go and find another place. All in the time that I've picked to actually go on. But the main thing is you want to hear 70, 80,000 people roar, scream, cheer.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  And when that goes off, the energy I get from all that gives me that extra speed. And then the chase. I've got to be chased, man. I want to see how many police and security it takes to catch me. Or it did do it a bit slower nowadays. And that's, the roar goes from that to a crescendo because of the chase. So number one, entertain. Entertain the crowd. Don't interrupt the game. And take the piss out of authority. It's giving the finger to authority, man. Do you know what I mean? I've got a new tattoo for me. Can you see that?

• 17:53Pablo Torre?

  You can.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  That's where I get my fingerprints.

• 17:55Pablo Torre?

  It says, uh, go the other way there, it does. Uh, no, other way. It, now you're just making a very lewd act. Yep, you is what it says as you are.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  You, man.

• 18:03Pablo Torre?

  Dragging your middle finger of your right hand across the front of our camera.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  You sideways, man.

• 18:25Pablo Torre?

  I want to get into your brain though, because why were you in Hong Kong in the first place? What was it like to be you?

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Well, I left the UK to see the world. I had thirty English pounds in my pocket and a one-way ticket to Hong Kong. I knew one guy over there who was a manager of a bar. He said he'd give me a job. There was the freedom just to be wherever you want to be. Then the rugby sevens was, uh, two months in. After that, I was known as the mad streaker. All my innermost things came out, you know, I can, there was no cloud over me head. So I eventually came home with the energy inside me. But obviously the UK's a different, uh, thing altogether from Hong Kong.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  So after a while, I didn't, Hong, streaking was just Hong Kong. That was, that was for me. But after being back in the UK for a while, it was back to normality and back to day to day. And then the Liverpool football match was on and went.

• 19:33Speaker 04

  The season's average of around forty-two thousand at Anfield doesn't look like dropping. So what a setting.

• 19:39Speaker 01

  And that's when I looked into streaking. Nobody'd streaked in the UK for years, year, decades. I went, fuck it, man. I'll do it, yeah. But I did it for charity, for, for a, for a children's hospital. Went around collecting money for kids. And, uh, when I went on, it was wow.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  An incredible story. The whole stadium, again, crazy, man.

• 20:06Pablo Torre?

  I want to show people what you showed people. We have video of it.

• 20:15Pablo Torre?

  This is live in the UK. It is live on a show called This Morning.

• 20:23Speaker 07

  Hi.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Hello, hi, I'm morning.

• 20:24Speaker 07

  Good morning. We had a great summer, we did.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:27Pablo Torre?

  This Morning, for the American audience, how would you describe a show like that?

• 20:31Speaker 01

  The English version of Good Morning, America.

• 20:33Speaker 07

  The fact that here in Liverpool, the weather is absolutely disgustingly awful, and the rest of the country is bathing in sunshine.

• 20:38Pablo Torre?

  And we see, on this morning's show, the weatherman. He's kind of like hopping along what appears to be the giant map of the UK that is sort of like a set. It looks like a mini golf course, but it's green and it's literally the shape of the United Kingdom.

• 20:54Speaker 01

  The whole of the UK, it's a floating weatherman.

• 20:56Pablo Torre?

  And so presumably, off-screen, there's a place that observers can come and watch the live taping. And so, as this weatherman, in his jaunty, giant, blue sweater, is hopping from island to island, from place to place, giving us the weather report. It's 1995, and the next thing that happens, that you see on-air, is this. We could have a little problem here. Did he ask for you to run? How am I gonna cope with this? Right, quite unexpected. Offered a handshake to Fred. Turns out his name is...

• 21:29Speaker 01

  That's a nice bum as well, isn't it?

• 21:31Pablo Torre?

  I mean, it's well sculpted. Hard to disagree with that.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Full moon at 12 o'clock.

• 21:37Pablo Torre?

  This was the very first televised streak you ever did, I believe.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  The camera went off me, and the two presenters went, "No, no, no. Go back on, it's only human flesh. Put it back on."

• 21:50Pablo Torre?

  One of the things you figured out pretty early in the ongoing innovation of streaking is writing on yourself. And I want to take us now, it's 95, it is St Andrews. Is this the final round of the 124th British Open Championship? The home of golf. The most religious, holy site in maybe the most staid and cloistered sport in the world. It's Sunday now, it's John Daly going for his first major. John Daly does what he always... Grip it and rip it. It is the 18th hole that we're being transported to at the moment. And where were you as the 18th hole is getting underway?

• 22:32Speaker 01

  I was not far from the hole itself on the 18th. I've met a group of friends and we got by the barriers. And I've said, as soon as the ball goes in the hole, I'm not going to do it while he's putting. As soon as it goes in the hole, I'm on. And then this guy we'd met the day before, there's pictures all over me getting chased by a guy. It looks like he's trying to rugby tackle me.

• 22:55Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, there he is.

• 22:56Speaker 01

  We met him the day before, driving into a car park. He was charging £5 for the car park. And we found out later, it was a free car park and he was just charging everyone £5 to park the car.

• 23:10Pablo Torre?

  So this guy who allegedly was charging people for free parking spots, he is now holding your spot. Is has held a hat over your penis? What is going on as you are gesturing with a grimace at the moment on the green?

• 23:24Speaker 01

  Well, because he was chasing me and I was leaving. I was fit then, nobody could catch me. I let him rugby tackle me and he gave me a little tap on the cheek. He said, I nearly had a heart attack, Mark. But he just wanted to get in on the fun, you know, he was just part of the, part of the joke.

• 23:41Pablo Torre?

  Well, part of the, the scene here that's essential is that, um, what you have written on your back is, is just an all-timer.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  19th hole.

• 23:51Pablo Torre?

  With a giant arrow at your hole.

• 23:58Pablo Torre?

  You're doing it at St. Andrews, Mark. You know the context of what it is to do it at the Open.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  So what?

• 24:06Speaker 01

  Do you know what I mean? All these people are all stuck up, you know, oh, you can't do this, you can't do that. Well, I'm going to show you, I can. It's like Wimbledon's the same.

• 24:17Pablo Torre?

  Oh, let's get to Wimbledon. So it is the year 2000 and the context here is that.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Can she step up her game for a Grand Slam title? The Championship, Wimbledon on NBC. Well, listen, I was out, I was stood outside Wimbledon in a queue waiting to go in. And the bill, a billboard went past on the side of a van with her advert.

• 24:41Pablo Torre?

  There is an ad. This is lingerie ad, to be clear. And the text here, again, it's a black and white photo. She is in her bra and panties and it says, only the ball should bounce. Period.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  I was on my own. I had to go into a toilet, a lavatory, lock the door and write that on myself. Only the balls bounce.

• 25:04Pablo Torre?

  Again, you're a vision, Mark. You're a vision. Only the balls bounce, written from solar plexus down to above your navel. In black marker, it looks like, um, as you are streaking to be now pedantic about this. You are obviously naked, but you are also doing something else. On the green that is watered by centuries of the most precious rain. Because there's another photograph, you are also doing a bit of a swan dive over the net.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  Over the net, yeah. Perfect.

• 25:36Pablo Torre?

  The form is just impeccable. That is Olympic form.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  Crazy thing is the nets have got alarms on them. So the slightest touch on the net sets off the alarm. I cleared it easy by an inch.

• 25:50Pablo Torre?

  Well, the Happy Meal came in real helpful.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  Big time.

• 26:03Pablo Torre?

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• 27:06Speaker 07

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 27:11Pablo Torre?

  Love the crown molding.

• 27:13Speaker 07

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 27:17Pablo Torre?

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet.

• 27:20Speaker 07

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 27:24Pablo Torre?

  No FiOS? Yeah, no, thank you.

• 27:27Speaker 07

  Don't you want to see the rest? Okay, bye-bye.

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• 27:43Pablo Torre?

  The 2002 Commonwealth Games, though, I want to do a pit stop here because this is a golden jubilee. What does that mean?

• 27:51Speaker 01

  It's like the Queen's anniversary of so many years on the throne.

• 27:55Pablo Torre?

  We're back with Queen Elizabeth.

• 27:56Speaker 06

  Her Majesty the Queen and His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh. Circuit this brand new, wonderful looking stadium.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  Me and Liz, we dead close, like that. No, just she wanted to knight me, that's a refuse.

• 28:12Pablo Torre?

  That is an index finger and a middle finger with, again, [BLEEP] you tattooed across it, just crossing.

• 28:18Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm sorry, not, not, I didn't mean that one.

• 28:20Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  Not with Liz. I don't want to say [BLEEP] you to Liz, no, because she was a lovely lady. I've been around there for, say, a few times.

• 28:26Pablo Torre?

  But what, what we're looking at here, because this is where we have acquired exclusive behind the scenes video from a source close to your [BLEEP].

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:36Pablo Torre?

  This is 2002. It is July 27.

• 28:41Pablo Torre?

  And there's a man in the bottom right.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Who's me to find?

• 28:44Pablo Torre?

  Who's looking up into the right.

• 28:48Speaker 05

  For the men's 100 metres, women's 100 metres.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  That's me.

• 28:53Pablo Torre?

  And you're wearing a short sleeve.

• 28:54Speaker 01

  The police were waiting for me everywhere.

• 28:57Pablo Torre?

  Wearing slacks, black slacks. And you're now motoring. And there goes the shirt, there go the pants. An impressive, just rip job.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  He listens to the crowd, man.

• 29:07Pablo Torre?

  Tear-away pants.

• 29:10Pablo Torre?

  Oh, knee-down, starting blocks. Well-tanned.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  You come off the record. Slowest ever, 100 metres.

• 29:21Pablo Torre?

  Oh my god. The mechanics of that, we gotta just walk through this because tear-away pants. This is a tool, a tool of your tool. A tool of your trade.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  I'm the face of Velcro. Without them, they have helped me so much. Because I can be right next to a policeman as soon as his head turns the other way. I'm over the barrier and I'm naked in seconds. Kshit.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  It's off, I'm gone. I've gone like the wind.

• 29:51Pablo Torre?

  If only the wind had a Nike swoosh tattooed onto its back.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  I was trying to encourage Nike to get in touch, but they didn't.

• 29:58Pablo Torre?

  Well, if anybody has embodied the slogan of just do it, I don't believe that there's anyone more prominent than, than you, Mark.

• 30:08Speaker 01

  In fact, Nike did a TV commercial.

• 30:10Speaker 05

  Oh, I think we've got an extra man on the pitch.

• 30:14Speaker 01

  And they based it on me.

• 30:17Speaker 05

  I don't know, that's how far he's giving the police, nothing but a good look at his backside.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  He did it at Arsenal's ground in London. Guy naked, running through.

• 30:27Speaker 05

  Oh dear, that's an image gonna stay with me for a very long time. Scorched onto my retina.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  So why didn't he get me to do it instead?

• 30:37Pablo Torre?

  I'd like to take up that cause, actually, now that you mention it. I want to address Nike explicitly here. Get this man. His fair do.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  Or, or even Adidas.

• 30:48Pablo Torre?

  Oh, I like that, I like that.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  All day I dream about streaking.

• 30:55Pablo Torre?

  Through the screen, I feel it. The vivid sensation of what it's like to run and be chased.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  By that point, the adrenaline's through the roof because I've achieved the objective already. That's the elating part. I'm joyous, you know, because the worry about being able to do what I set out to do has passed that point. So now I'm full of joy. So when I'm running, I'm usually laughing my head off.

• 31:25Pablo Torre?

  What do you call it, the feeling right before you get caught?

• 31:28Speaker 01

  I call it the G-spot because everyone enjoys it when I get there.

• 31:38Pablo Torre?

  And I cannot believe we haven't gotten here yet, but you are on an expense report from goldenpalace.com.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, Mum. They paid for everything. I'd done a couple of events for them and they rang me and said, listen, we've got tickets for the biggest thing in America. I said, what? The Oscars? We've got tickets for the Oscars? I went, no. What do you mean? I said, that's not the biggest thing. The Super Bowl's the biggest thing in the States. So you're talking about you can't do the Super Bowl? I said, why not? It's never been done, can't be done, security's too tight. I said, you get me tickets and I'll show you it can be done.

• 32:12Pablo Torre?

  As I try to understand, just like with the greatest of all time at streaking, has encountered in America at the highest possible level, we go to Super Bowl XXXIII.

• 32:21Speaker 05

  Sets the stage for a worldwide audience. For all the marbles, Super Bowl XXXIII.

• 32:28Pablo Torre?

  And Super Bowl XXXIII is, even absent everything we're about to discuss here, one of the most iconic, memorable, infamous Super Bowls, sporting events in human history. It is Patriots-Panthers. It is February 1st, 2004. It is Houston. The halftime performer, Mark, of course, is who?

• 32:52Speaker 01

  Janet Jackson, I didn't even know she'd done that. I was at the half time show's going on, I'm at the back warming up.

• 33:01Pablo Torre?

  She was opening for you, in other words. She was flashing, less intentionally it turns out, she was flashing the world and you back, wherever you were, were warming up. And so where were you at your point of entry, I guess?

• 33:17Speaker 01

  While the half time show was going on, I was at the back talking to a friend. I'm going on just before the third quarter starts. But, security and police were everywhere around the field. We had front row seats on the 50 yard line, best seats in the house.

• 33:32Pablo Torre?

  Amazing.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  To give me the best chance to get on to the ball.

• 33:37Pablo Torre?

  It raises the question of how does the most notorious streaker in the world, in modern civilization, how is he able to stand near the 50 yard line in plain sight as the most visible event in the world is happening?

• 33:54Speaker 01

  We were sitting down on the seats, there was a wall with maybe a 15 foot drop. So when I'm gonna go, I'm gonna have to drop. But as I say, there's many police and security around the field. This one guy, one security, all the way through the game, stood right face on my line, did not move a muscle for four hours Pablo, four fucking hours. And I said to my friend, if he doesn't move, you go down the wall, drop your phone, go to climb down the wall to dive, so he comes to you. So I've got a clear run to get on to the field. The one time I wanted to go, he moved.

• 34:38Pablo Torre?

  There was a changing of the guard.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  Man, he walked over to speak to another security guard further down. The one time I wanted to go on, I said to my friend, go. So I had my own clothes, I took them off. Now I'm a referee, I've got a referee's uniform on.

• 34:52Pablo Torre?

  Of course.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  That I got from the NFL.

• 34:54Pablo Torre?

  Wait, how did you get a referee's uniform from the NFL?

• 34:57Speaker 01

  I wrote to the NFL and I told them I wanted to be, I'm starting an American football team in the UK, but I couldn't get any referee's uniforms. The NFL sent me two. I said, thank you very much, you [bleep] heads.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, thank you very much. I took a uniform to a seamstress, got it to take it all apart and put it back together again with Velcro.

• 35:21Pablo Torre?

  And all of this takes us now officially into what I remember.

• 35:27Speaker 02

  And then Bill Belichick says, history tells us in the second half, a lot goes on in these Super Bowl games, so.

• 35:32Pablo Torre?

  The first time I personally remember laying eyes on Mark Roberts was the third quarter as play by play announcer Greg Gumbel on CBS is getting us going.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Panthers will kick it away to start the second half.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  Here we go.

• 35:50Pablo Torre?

  And there in the bottom left, you begin to see.

• 35:55Speaker 01

  On the 40 yard line, isn't it, yeah?

• 35:57Pablo Torre?

  Pushing through in regulation garb.

• 36:03Pablo Torre?

  As the kickoff is getting ready.

• 36:06Pablo Torre?

  And.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  Here we go, right in the middle there, kit's come off.

• 36:08Pablo Torre?

  Right over the Super Bowl logo, the, the, the Roman numerals, uh, my God.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  We have a surprise guest on the field.

• 36:17Pablo Torre?

  Right over the Roman numerals for Super Bowl 38.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Well, the halftime entertainment apparently never stops.

• 36:24Pablo Torre?

  When you're doing that, are the players acknowledging you? Like, what is happening as you are making your way?

• 36:29Speaker 01

  I've gone on as a referee, stopped the kickoff for the third quarter.

• 36:34Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 36:34Speaker 01

  One of the players shouted, what's up, ref, man? Man went.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  [bleep] all, just started dancing. Ripped me clothes off, I'm naked, started dancing around the ball. So all the players are going, what's the [bleep] referee doing? They thought the referee's lost his mind.

• 36:51Pablo Torre?

  That's an understandable question.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Here we go, kit off, have some of that.

• 36:59Pablo Torre?

  And this video that we have of what was not shown on the broadcast are remarkable, just blurring and unblurring of, uh, total eclipse of your, of your moon. Is that tape you're wearing? What is, what is your underwear here?

• 37:12Speaker 01

  It's a tape, the very last thing before I left the hotel, I forgot, I can't get me [bleep] out in Texas. So that's a deflated American football that was on the table in the hotel room. So I've taped it around so nothing could pop out. But I needed, I needed a piss and it was the worst, hardest piss I've ever had in my life. The plan was to pick up the ball and try and score a touchdown, but I decided just to dance instead.

• 37:38Pablo Torre?

  You have, the announcer Phil Simms is asking, he actually asks on the broadcast. And what do you call that dance? Silly?

• 37:47Pablo Torre?

  And now we know that you would call it.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  An Irish bog stump. It's a bad body, I'll tell you that, and there's too much of it being shown.

• 37:55Pablo Torre?

  Well, let's check out the halftime numbers and. America runs the [__] away, but as you make history, Danish television gives us this.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  Listen to the crowd, there we go. Bang.

• 38:12Pablo Torre?

  And that bang, by the way, number 58.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Matt Chatham.

• 38:17Pablo Torre?

  Matt Chatham, six foot four, 250, Patriots linebacker. By the way, a three-time Super Bowl champion in the end, who happens to, by the way, I don't know if you know this, Mark, he runs a barbecue dry rub company now, and we called him up to ask about the bit of dry rub that he gave you, because he laid you all the way out.

• 38:39Speaker 06

  Name's Matt Chatham, fortunate enough to be on three Super Bowls, excuse me, to win three Super Bowls, I guess. It always sounds weird when an individual says they won a Super Bowl, but you know what I mean? It's kind of our wedding day, or whatever you want to call it, so I, this guy, he does this in the seventh inning of a, of a May baseball game. Okay, it's hilarious, ha ha, but this just, this rubbed me in the wrong way and always will and.

• 39:01Pablo Torre?

  And as we watch just more of the alternate angle footage here of this, you know, this is, it's fairly violent, I will say, as you're kind of like bog stomping around.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  It's like a girl.

• 39:10Pablo Torre?

  The kickoff, yeah, and there he goes, just knocking you.

• 39:16Speaker 01

  That was great, that was a perfect ending to the Super Bowl.

• 39:18Pablo Torre?

  Oh, laid you out horizontal. Matt enacted justice on behalf of, I guess, the United States of America with what he calls, quote unquote.

• 39:26Speaker 06

  A love tap, it was, you know, a two out of 10 kind of violence, just to, just to get him gone. I mean, I just don't think people realize how big NFL people are, but. You know, I'm about 250 plus or whatever, you're all padded up, you know, and that's not full stride. But you know, if you're you're running a pretty good amount and running to a guy like that, he's gonna go flying.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, didn't felt didn't feel a thing. My nan, my grandmother hit harder than that. And she's dead.

• 39:51Speaker 06

  Part of my reaction was definitely annoyance, as much as anything, uh, you know, we'd been we'd been prepped, uh, in in previous years, and especially this one is in times of war, times of conflict, all this stuff, that it's really heightened security. And, uh, you know, nobody's supposed to be in this building that's not out there playing football. And and I think other guys would echo this, like, you're so intensely focused on this thing. It's not that, like, I haven't seen a billion streaker things on baseball games or, you know, whatever else, and chuckled like everyone else, and maybe rewatch a video or something. But in that moment, it was like, sort of, you know, doing a whoopee cushion during the wedding. It's like, those are funny, but not funny now, right? Like, just don't do that now. This is this is actually pretty serious.

• 40:32Pablo Torre?

  You've single-handedly infiltrated the security state post nine eleven.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  I was scared, man. So scared what could happen to me on the field post nine eleven. And there's gonna be snipers on the roofs, man.

• 40:45Pablo Torre?

  Sure.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  And I'm thinking, they can think I'm some kind of weird guy. Well, everyone, people might think that, anyway, but to do harm and shoot. But I thought, if they shoot, they'll shoot in the legs. I'll take a bullet to the leg to do the Super Bowl.

• 41:03Pablo Torre?

  He also called you a jackass.

• 41:04Speaker 06

  That's why I said jackass, not like any any malice against Mark.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  He's a

• 41:13Speaker 01

  a big, seven foot, seven foot, whatever. That's all he is.

• 41:18Speaker 06

  So NFL Securities actually sent a tape, and they had all these different angles and kind of sent a little thank you note. They were very grateful, you know, because it helped them not have one of those wild scenes where they're

• 41:28Speaker 05

  The guy around and you're playing the circus music, it was more just bam bam, beat it, get out of here and and I think they appreciated that.

• 41:34Pablo Torre?

  So you go horizontal, you jackass, and suddenly you're surrounded.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  Man, there's about twenty people over me while I'm getting handcuffed.

• 41:42Pablo Torre?

  Yeah. What are you saying to yourself as you're now underneath this pile?

• 41:50Speaker 01

  I'd just done the fucking Super Bowl, man. Literally, I've got me face pushed in the grass and getting handcuffed behind me back. And alls I could think of, I'd just done the Super Bowl. So I got carried off hogtied into the tunnel. Now I'm thinking, okay, here's where the trouble's really gonna start. So because the way he took me out, Matt Chatham, I'm feigning injury. And one of the policemen went, put him down, put him down. I'm going, ah, he said, you're okay, man now, you're safe, man. I said, okay, thank you. He says, you okay? I said, me sides hurting, officer. I was fine, you know? He said, why, he said, why did you do that? I said, I just wanted to make the great people of America laugh.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  And the policeman went, that was fucking awesome, man.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  And next thing, all the police started laughing. They loved it, man. Loved it. He said, listen, I'm gonna keep you for an hour and then just let you go, release you. I went, they're gonna, they're gonna not charge me either. And I found out, it's the first time the NFL ran security for Super Bowl. Cause normally it's down to the actual stadium security people to. And I beat them. I beat the shit out of them, man. Next thing, the head of the NFL comes running down some stairs, throw the book at him. He wanted me to charge up to the hilt.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  So I got charged with criminal trespass, got taken to jail. That was scary.

• 43:21Speaker 01

  Well, the policeman did say to me before I went in the cage, "Don't make eye contact. Don't talk to anybody. Nobody knows what you've done today because they've been locked up all day. Don't speak to anybody because if they realise you're British, they might have a reason to create an argument with you." So I've gone in the cage with all this in my head. Cage full of, I don't know, lunatics. I've gone in dressed as a referee. All the police were buzzing in the police station. They all loved it. Took me mugshot and they've duplicated it. So I'm signing autographs to all the wives and girlfriends and all that. Put me in the cage with 30 people. The only place I could lie down was right next to the toilet. So I'm lying on the floor. I've got my knees

• 44:04Speaker 01

  up and I could hear someone going, "Look at the fucking referee, man." So I've sat up. All the Velcros open and my fucking balls are on show in the cage.

• 44:16Pablo Torre?

  I just like that, something that kind of maybe took you aback as you dressed as a referee in the most convincing possible form, was that you found out that even in jail, maybe especially in jail, Americans fucking hate referees.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  But luckily everything was okay. I got released in the morning and got flown first class to Hollywood.

• 44:41Pablo Torre?

  You exercised your freedom of everything and you are facing six months of jail time and they find you guilty of misdemeanor trespassing and a thousand dollar fine.

• 44:53Speaker 01

  I wanted to hug them all. In fact, at the end of the court case, they emptied the courtroom. So there's just me, my lawyer, the judge, one female judge, prosecutor and all the jurors have gone into the jury room and all you can hear is laughter. And the judge said to me, "Mr. Roberts, in all my years of working in courtrooms, I've never heard that kind of commotion in the jury room. Will you please escort me in?" And she linked my arm to the judge and we walked into the jury room and they all started cheering, all the jurors. It was fantastic.

• 45:38Speaker 01

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• 47:14Pablo Torre?

  I understand why it was that it took us a bit to get you on the show, Mark. Because we originally, we tried to do it ahead of what we thought might be a streak at the Olympics in Paris. Took a while. Our producer, Matt, was communicating and I just want to quote the WhatsApp conversation as we put it on screen here. He said to us, uh, [BLEEP] it and you, you're [BLEEP].

• 47:46Pablo Torre?

  And then, and then, and then, because you were like, what about NBC? Are they gonna get mad at us? Or, you know, are we gonna get threatened?

• 47:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, you bottled those.

• 47:53Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, you know, standards, you know, all that stuff. Then we said, uh, what about still having an interview? And you said, quote, "Matt, who gives a flying [BLEEP]? Ooh, I got a 50K fine, so [BLEEP] and what? If that's a problem to you, then see you later." Followed by, "I think you guys have no understanding of life." Followed by, [BLEEP] you. And then, and this is where I was like, I love this man and we must have him on. August 12th, 2024, you said, "At 3:30 AM Eastern Time, are we still on tomorrow then?"

• 48:32Speaker 01

  Because I was still buzzing, I wanted to go to the Olympics. And you know, the crazy thing about that was as well, pal? The one I wanted to do was the breakdancing.

• 48:41Pablo Torre?

  Oh my god.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  It's the first time breakdancing had been, and the Australian woman.

• 48:45Speaker 05

  Australian politics, forget that minor election they're trying to conduct in the United States. What the world's really been interested in, in what the hell was Raygun up to at the Paris Olympics?

• 48:57Speaker 01

  That was the event I wanted to do, so, oh man, I was gutted, gutted, but I still wanted to go.

• 49:04Pablo Torre?

  I mourn the alternate timeline in which you were breakdancing, upstaging Raygun, naked.

• 49:12Speaker 01

  I'd have been better than her, man.

• 49:13Pablo Torre?

  I think I wouldn't have been close, you know?

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Ah, that's a shame.

• 49:18Pablo Torre?

  It's a shame, but also, I cannot describe your life, your career, and I will call it that now, your, your, your art form, as, as anything but an unqualified, an unparalleled success story in a race that now so many other people are terrified to run. I don't know if anybody's even coming for the title, man.

• 49:42Speaker 01

  It'll never be broken, it'll never be beaten, man. Nobody will ever be able to surpass what I've, what I've achieved. I'm proud.

• 49:51Pablo Torre?

  Your mom, what did she think of, of all of this?

• 49:55Speaker 01

  She's always said, you're nuts. Something wrong with you. I said, mum, you don't see, you're not there, you don't feel it, what the crowds like. Until eventually I did a, I jumped on stage during a play in Liverpool. I told my brother what I was gonna do, so he took me mum, not knowing that I was gonna jump on stage. And when I jumped on stage, the whole audience is cheering and, and then she's, I saw it afterwards when I got through out, I met her in a bar next door. She said, when I saw you going on, I was gonna shout, enough now, stop it. But she said I couldn't stop laughing. She said everyone was laughing, I started laughing, what you were doing was funny.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  So she eventually was actually there in real time and she saw what everyone else was seeing, what everybody else got, you know. And actually when she died, well, just before she died, she had a fall. The ambulance came to pick her up from home. And in the ambulance, she said to the ambulance man, do you know who my son is?

• 51:02Speaker 01

  On the way to the hospital, man, you know.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  One of the last things she said, man. So, even though she kept on saying I was crazy, you know, she was proud of me in the end. So that was nice.

• 51:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:20Pablo Torre?

  What does it feel like now? Because how old are you, Mark Roberts, now as we speak here today?

• 51:25Speaker 01

  I'm sixty, sixty now.

• 51:27Pablo Torre?

  So you're sixty.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  And I've just been diagnosed with, with heart failure as well.

• 51:31Pablo Torre?

  I'm sorry to hear that.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, get, get this right, they're giving me tablets to stop adrenaline getting to my heart.

• 51:43Speaker 01

  Cause my, my heart's working overtime. So I'm thinking this is, this is a conspiracy by Interpol. They're stopping me buzzing anymore, so I can't go around causing trouble around the world.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  But yeah, so I've got to be careful now.

• 51:59Pablo Torre?

  What I have found out at the end of today's show is that I don't think there's a person in sports who has experienced, who has felt more adrenaline than Mark Roberts.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  You haven't seen the last of me yet. Never, never. I will fight them on the beaches. I've actually written in me, I wrote a will through a solicitor, that when I die, I want to go in a perspex coffin, clear, naked, so I can streak my own funeral. But I've put a little note at the bottom, while I'm in the mortuary, please put a Viagra down me throat so I can go out in style.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  And then I want the Pope to bless me.

• 52:45Pablo Torre?

  You know, he's a sports fan. Mark Roberts, the greatest of all time. I say this knowing that I won't really have a choice, but I look forward to seeing you again.

• 52:59Speaker 01

  Thank you, Pablo. It's been an absolute pleasure, my friend.

• 53:03Pablo Torre?

  Yes, yes. Let's get on that WhatsApp chain. Yep, okay.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  Take it easy, mate. Nice one. Oh yeah, I'll have some of this.

• 53:08Pablo Torre?

  Oh God. Wait, wait, what?

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Have some of that. Have some of them apples. Have some of them apples, lads. Go on, some of them. Go on.

• 53:28Pablo Torre?

  This has been Pablo Torre Finds Out, a Meadowlark Media production.

• 53:34Pablo Torre?

  And I'll talk to you next time.

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