Noah Beck’s Business & Life Lessons From The World’s Biggest Male TikTok Star EP 1467

The Summit of Greatness is back! Buy your tickets today – summitofgreatness.com – Noah Beck, the popular man on TikTok joins Lewis on The School of Greatness. Noah Beck has quickly established himself as one of today’s most sought-after multi-hyphenate creatives. Not just “the biggest TikTok guy on earth” (GQ) with over 45 million combined followers, Beck has continually distinguished himself as an actor, model, athlete, and entrepreneur, solidifying his mark on the industry. His meteoric rise has redefined the art of being an internet auteur and led to unremitted success, with recent inductions into the FORBES 30 under 30. In this episode you will learn,The struggles of maintaining a relationship in the public spotlightHow TikTok’s biggest male personality went viralThe biggest challenges in engaging 50M followersHow to deal with criticism and constant negative feedbackThe mental health benefits of getting out of your head and into the worldFor more information go to www.lewishowes.com/1467Want more episodes like this one? Dean Graziosi on overcoming trauma and unleashing your greatest potential - https://link.chtbl.com/1462-podKaramo Brown on living an authentic life - https://link.chtbl.com/1457-podLewis Howes’ 11 habits for success - https://link.chtbl.com/1449-pod Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:01Lewis Howes?

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• 1:01Speaker 01

  I think social media has changed so many things for the better, but also for the worse. I think this constant culture of like comparison going on with like young individuals and it's not, it's not really a good way to, to view life, constantly comparing yourself. And I think-

• 1:16Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 1:40Lewis Howes?

  So three years in the making, we met, uh, you know, two blocks away from here about three years ago as you were on the rise to your social media, TikTok, internet sensational fame that you've been on, I think.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  Uh, what do you have close to like forty or fifty million followers now on all your platforms? But three years ago, you kind of, who was counting?

• 2:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  We lost count a lot ago. But back then you were just kind of taking off month by month, just like doubling. And yeah, it came out of nowhere. You were, I remember seeing videos of you as this, you know, D one soccer kid, right? Who was like nineteen? And then all of a sudden COVID hits and you have nothing to do. You're kind of like, what do I do with my time? School year gets cut short, soccer season gets cut short. You had one dream going towards, I'm assuming soccer and trying to play professionally. And then you started making TikTok videos for, for fun as a little side thing. And in one month, I think you said you got your first million followers, is that right?

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Around that, yeah.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Something like.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Something like that, yeah.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  And then all of a sudden, when did you realize that, oh, maybe like this soccer thing, dream that I had for probably a decade, isn't the main thing anymore? Or maybe school isn't even the main thing, but I'm going to start trying this other thing. When did you realize like this is a new possibility for you?

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Um, I would say when I think the opportunities became just too good to pass up. I think when the numbers started to grow, when emails started to come in, my email was attached on my TikTok. And I started getting emails that I couldn't even believe with numbers that I'd never seen before.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Like financial opportunities, like sponsorship deals, brand deals.

• 3:26Speaker 01

  Yep, all of those. And as a NCAA division one athlete at that time.

• 3:31Speaker 02

  You couldn't make money.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Couldn't make money. And I talked to the dean about it and everything like I went to university of Portland and I literally told my coach, I was like, hey, coach, I have a question. Who can you put me in contact with? I have some questions regarding like NCAA and the rules. Cause I know you're allowed to have a, as a D one athlete, you're allowed to have like a job. If I was like a barista somewhere or something like that.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  Like minimum wage.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  Right. But you're not allowed to make money off the likeness of your name. And although I wasn't selling jerseys or autographs or whatever, um, they still, I, I had a long talk with my dean about it. And I was like, look, making videos, you know, has nothing to do, like I post some soccer content, but like for the most part, people don't even know I play. And so, so I'm like, is there something we can do here? Cause I'm getting money thrown at me that I've never seen before. And I was like, a college student that had never really had work experience. I was like, Please let me do this. And he was like, unfortunately, like it restricts NCAA rules. And so that also kind of helped me make that decision.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy? But now, like, just six months after that, I think NIL.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 4:35Speaker 02

  Started, right?

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Shortly right after that.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Shortly, six months later, I was like, okay, now you can make money with your name and likeness.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  It was right before that. The money was, I'm assuming it was in the five, 10, $20,000 opportunities at that time, early on, if not more.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  And you're like, okay, one video to make this to pay for like a year of life.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  It's hard to say no to.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Hard to say no.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  And who knows what would have happened if you were able to make money as a college athlete? Do you think you would have still been playing?

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Well, that's the question, isn't it? I think there's so many things that played, that would have played a factor that I go back and I think, what if, you know, what if he said, yeah, go ahead, like, do, do the sponsored posts, do brand deals, like, I don't care. I don't think I ever would have stopped. I don't think there would have been that.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  You would have kept playing.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  I think I would have kept playing. And I think because

• 5:32Speaker 01

  it, it was crazy because I think my dad, my dad's like my biggest fan and he's my biggest supporter and he was my coach since I was three years old. And so, and he coaches a local high school team. And so having a coach as a dad, I mean, it had, it's ups and downs for sure. He, sometimes the car rides home were not fun, but it's one of those things where he was hard on me for, for the better. And it, I don't, it just got to a point where he was like, if you're seriously considering quitting soccer, like, you don't even have to tell me, like, this is, he knows my love for the game and he knows how passionate I was for it and I am for it. He was like, this must be something huge because he's like, I've never seen anything throw you off as much as this is.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  So I think he understood like the magnitude of the opportunities I was given. And obviously he said that he didn't even really need to know. But of course, my mom and dad were still kind of hands on with being like, you know, talking to the right people, looking things up and like, I give them as much info as I could, but for the most part, I didn't even know what was going on. I was like, I don't know this brand, but they're offering to pay me like, so it was pretty, it was pretty nuts. I can't lie. And I think. There are so many what ifs, if.

• 6:45Speaker 02

  Really?

• 6:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, if uh if the NIL would have been a thing six months prior.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, but here we are.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  I think life uh puts us in different directions at different moments. You know, I got injured playing football, I was telling you before he jumped on camera. And that was the dream, that was a passion. So for a year and a half, I was recovering from a surgery and an injury. And um I didn't know what was gonna happen next, but I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't have done this show for the last 10 years had that injury not happened. I would have kept pursuing the same thing. And who knows, maybe it would have been a great run, maybe I'd have broken my neck or something. You never know.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  You never know.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  So you might have been redirected for something greater.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:26Speaker 02

  Which is interesting.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  And that's why I can't help but kind of frame my mindset as I'm like, this happened for a reason. So I'm just gonna, you know, do, I mean, as athletes, I feel like growing up as athletes, I think. I was telling you before the cameras were on, it's just kind of how we're programmed with being so structured and disciplined and being like. All right, if I'm gonna do this, I have a new, like, I got a new job. You know, it's like having a new coach, like you want to impress the new coach. And so every time I would do something new in the entertainment industry and in this space, I was like. I'm gonna give it the best I can and I'm gonna try to really throw myself in and like, what's the worst that can happen?

• 8:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  You know, you fail and it's like.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  What was the biggest challenge over the last three years for you with getting so much popularity and I guess social media following and fame? In a time of extreme cancel culture, a time of extreme.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:19Speaker 02

  Celebrating individuals and cheering for people, but then also criticizing them. And these kind of two extremes.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  Follow you, comment on everything, celebrate you and talk about you in a positive way. But then when I don't like something, let me criticize you, let me pull you down and let me shame you publicly.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  How at 19 and now 22, have you navigated that process?

• 8:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think you hit it right on the nose. It's one of those things where uh it is just such a flaky industry and it's such a. You know, at one moment, you're on top of the world and the next moment, like, you can breathe the wrong way. And someone's got something to say and I think. In the world we live in now and with the social media, I think social media has changed so many things for the better, but also for the worse. I think this constant culture of like comparison going on with like young individuals. And it's not, it's not really a good way to, to view life, constantly comparing yourself. And I think, I don't know, I, yeah, when I first started, people, at first, nothing bad to say, you know?

• 9:30Speaker 01

  As I'm gaining traction and numbers kept rising, people were like, my God, that's like, you know, this guy's amazing. Let's keep him hidden. Like, don't let him blow up too much, like that kind of thing.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  Keep him hidden?

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Let's keep him hidden. Like, that's kind of the thing, let's keep him our secret.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Really?

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I think.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  You don't have a secret at 10 million followers, right?

• 9:46Speaker 01

  No, not, not at that point. I think when it was like just before the millions, people were like, like, where are these guys coming from? They keep spawning. And it's like, I just made an account, like, as simple as that. And I think, uh, I don't know, when some, when someone feels a part of something like small, it feels a bit more intimate. And then like, i- i- it's funny that that is being said though, because I have like, uh, I have like my OG fans that have been there since the early days, since like 10, 20,000 followers.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  But you recognize still, leave comments.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  That I still to this day, like, you know, I'm in group chats with them on Instagram. I'll chime in here and there and just be like, hey, guys, hope you're all well. Like, it's, it's really fun having a community like that and like, knowing that, that 10, 30, 30 seconds out of your day can, to stop and do a group chat and be like, hey, guys, I hope you all are well, like, not forgetting about you. I think that can really like, it's crazy that that can make someone's day.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:36Speaker 01

  And, um, yeah, with, with like, with cancel culture, it's a, it's one of those things where you kind of, I don't know, I don't, I like to think I don't really have any, have any skeletons in the closet, you know? So like, I'm, I'm just kind of like, I'm able to be authentically myself. And if you like me, follow me and like, let's go on this journey together. But if not, like, I'm gonna lose sleep over it. Like, if you don't like me, that's fine, but.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  But how do you deal with maybe not cancel culture for you because you don't have a skeletons, but a criticism culture?

• 11:06Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  And make wrong, or just like comparison?

• 11:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  Comparison and criticism culture where, okay.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  You were the, and still are, but you were three years ago, kind of the newer person coming out and creating content.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  And now there's newer people doing that.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Younger or more defined abs or whatever.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Longer hair.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  Better looking, of course, yeah.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  And how do you not let your self-worth be defined by criticism or comparison at such a young age?

• 11:36Speaker 01

  It's hard. It really is. And I can't lie. I think.

• 11:42Speaker 01

  I can't sit here and say it hasn't affected me. You know, there have been times where, you know, the likes are down, the engagement's low, you know? And as much as I don't want to ever look at that, like, it's your job, you know? And it comes to a point where you kind of have to look at that and see what people are saying and seeing like what they want to see. And you can either choose to do two things. You can give the people what they want, or you can just keep posting stuff that you like. And I think, uh, I saw or read this quote the other day. It was about, I don't know if I'm gonna say it correctly, but it was basically something about like, the work's never as good when you start to cater to other people. But as soon as like you start doing it for yourself, then it's a lot more like, like people can like see right through the authenticity.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  And I think, uh, I don't know. I think that's just what I've kind of always kind of stayed, stayed firm to is the belief of just being myself and just posting stuff that I want to post. And like, I'm very, very blessed and like grateful to have like the fan base that I have and people that support me the way that they do because at the end of the day, like,

• 12:45Speaker 01

  there are people that will do just about anything for a like or a click. And I'm just grateful that I have people that will click no matter what, like if I put out something. But that being said, I'm never gonna take advantage of that and I'm never gonna like take that for granted. And I'm always gonna try to put out my best stuff. And yeah, but I think going back to what I was saying with like,

• 13:05Speaker 01

  it is a very, you know, one moment you're on top of the world, the next moment you're, you're nothing. And then all of a sudden you have a big project coming out and bam, you're back on top. And it's just like, I'm very aware of that and I'm, I would tire myself out if I constantly tried to be at the top and constantly tried to do things that would make sure that I'm at the top, get, stay people talking and like. I enjoy the time when people aren't talking, you know?

• 13:29Speaker 02

  Really?

• 13:29Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  I mean, here's the thing, you got fifty million followers, so it's not like you're not relevant.

• 13:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  But what do you mean like being on top versus?

• 13:39Speaker 01

  Of course, yeah.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Your bottom is like five million views versus, I don't know, posts as opposed to a hundred million views.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  Well, that would be someone's dream.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  Exactly. It's funny that you mention that because I was having a conversation the other day with some of my friends and we were talking about like, who are also kind of influencers in the space and they were, they were kind of talking about the idea that, you know, you know, it's the constant thing of, you know, the algorithms change, you know, views aren't the same anymore. Like back in twenty twenty, like prime time with like when I had just, you know, entered the house with the Sway Boys and like, I could post a video of me staring at the camera for five seconds and it would probably do twenty million views.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  And it was like, I think we took that for granted. Like I think we really, it's hard not to be spoiled to that. It's hard not to like see that and be like, oh, anything less than this. It's like, am I falling off? You know, it's like one of those things because I like the content that I'm putting out now way more than what I was putting out back then, you know, but like I said, there's an audience for everything. And so I think the stuff that I put out now is definitely more authentic to who I am and more like catered to a specific audience, whereas back then it was just like, all right, anyone who wants to make a video, let's do it. Let's dance, have our shirts off, you know, it's gonna, it's gonna do well. Like at the end of the day, like, so.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  It's a, it was funny because we were talking, we were like, if you really put it into perspective, our least viewed video is someone who's just starting this like dream and it's hard to kind of zoom out of that. Like when you take yourself out of your shoes and really zoom out and see for what it is. It's a, it's pretty insane how, how spoiled we were back then with all those views and still to this day, like, I, like we were talking about before the cameras turned on, I just think I joined at a perfect time where. Covid hit and everyone was all of a sudden like, what do we do? I'm just gonna go on my phone and scroll, you know, like TikTok blew up at that time. And being the new up and comer, like it was a, it was definitely a weird feeling.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Cause it wasn't till a few months after I started gaining followers. I didn't think it was anything more than just numbers on a screen. And then my first time kind of going out after the pandemic, like going out, meaning like I went on vacation with my family in California.

• 16:00Speaker 02

  Recognized you.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  People recognized me.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  Came up to you and.

• 16:02Speaker 01

  You're that guy from TikTok, like you're Noah Beck. And I was just like, yep, I was in a, I was in a dorm room like three months ago, you know, like training for soccer. And this is, this is definitely, and my parents, like my parents knew about like the numbers and like, but they thought the same thing. They were just like, oh, that's cool, you know, like we don't know where these millions of numbers are coming from. Like it could be wherever. And so when you first kind of get like, start getting spotted, my parents were like, what? Like it was just a new thing to all of us and I was crazy. It was truly a surreal feeling.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Now, how do you manage your ego and not let it get to your head so much as a, you know, 22 year old, heartthrob, you know, athlete, social media sensation? How do you, or maybe you haven't figured that out yet? How do you keep a good heart, a kind soul? Uh, and still be compassionate towards humanity?

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  What, with all the success, the fame and you know, 16 year old girls running after you everywhere you go.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, uh, it's flattering for sure and it's definitely got me blushing. But like, it's one of those things where I think again, like what we were talking about before,

• 17:14Speaker 01

  the people that I have chosen to surround myself with in my personal life have really helped manage that. And you know, like I said, I'm not one of the, I just don't think that's how I am as a person anyway. Like I, I have give a big shout out to my parents for, for raising me, I think in the right way. And I owe everything to them. And I think, uh, yeah, I don't know. I, I just, I know that I have, you know, I've always been confident in who I am. And I've never really struggled with like confidence. But at the same time, I'm human and I have my insecurities. But I think, uh,

• 17:59Speaker 01

  I don't know. I I think, yeah, the people I surround myself with, like we were talking about, it's hard to find here in L A with

• 18:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  How transactional the city can be, how

• 18:07Speaker 02

  Everyone wants something from you.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Everyone wants something. Why are you being nice to me? Like, why did, like, you know, all these questions before that are just kind of like unsaid, but

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I'm still very much a family man and my my parents and my sisters definitely keep me humble. My friends that I grew up with playing soccer from Arizona are still like my best friends to this day.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  And we're all kind of off doing our own thing, which is amazing, but we connect somehow, whether it's through like playing Xbox together or even just like, you know, in a group chat, just checking on each other, but

• 18:39Speaker 02

  You mentioned insecurities, though. Do you have insecurities?

• 18:42Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 18:43Speaker 02

  You you seem like such a positive, you know, always smiling, happy guy, fit, millions of followers, making money, you know, Paris Fashion Week and all over the place, like

• 18:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  You're the guy. How can you have insecurities? And if you have them, what are they?

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm human, you know, I know I'm human. I don't mean to say, I think, I look, I know I'm human and I think

• 19:11Speaker 02

  What is that insecurity for you?

• 19:14Speaker 01

  For me, it just changes every day, you know, I have I think when I look in the mirror, I see things and I'm just like, you know, you can't help but think like when you, especially the comparison, you know, it goes back to that. It's like, or when I'm on TikTok, I'll be like, you know, this guy, this guy is just better looking or whatever it may be like, yeah, of course, but it's like, I sound shallow. I think I'm also just like insecure about sometimes the I don't know, just kind of the way

• 19:45Speaker 01

  I don't know, you know, I'm trying to think.

• 19:47Speaker 02

  Is it a feeling of like you're not enough, you're not talented enough, you're not smart enough, you're not good looking enough, you're not as experienced enough, you're

• 19:57Speaker 02

  you know,

• 19:59Speaker 02

  well, TikTok gave me this, so do I really deserve it?

• 20:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  What is the

• 20:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, you got the wheels turning.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  What is the

• 20:04Speaker 01

  One hundred percent. And this is a thing that my team gets mad at me for, my managers, my agents, like, they're all like, get out of your head. And, you know, I think going back to being raised as an athlete and kind of having that like background.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  You know, if you wanna win a game, you work your ass off and you win the game. Or if you want to get better, you train and you work harder at it. Whereas in this industry, I haven't, I felt like I haven't done enough to be in some of the rooms that I've really found myself for sure. And I think, I think it may be one of those things where it's just the world working in weird ways. Where, you know, all my training as an athlete growing up has led to this in a weird way. It's rewarded me in a different way that I never thought like would translate. But there are definitely rooms that I find myself in, events that I find myself at. I'm like, why am I here? You know, there are world-class athletes, there are amazing artists, there are, you know,

• 21:04Speaker 01

  every vertical and I see myself and I'm like, I just don't think I've done enough yet. And I think that definitely is probably one of the biggest insecurities of mine is that feeling like I earned it or the feeling that I deserve this. And I think, yeah, I like that definitely got the wheels turning. I think that is probably the biggest one that I've kinda have faced.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  How often do you think about that? Like, did I really earn this? Do I deserve to be at all these big events or with these, you know, celebrities or with these talented artists or talented athletes who put in their whole life to create this career?

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Is that a weekly thing? Is that daily? Is that like just kind of when you're at the events, you're like, okay, why am I here?

• 21:50Speaker 01

  I think it's just about every time that I get an opportunity that kinda makes me reconsider everything, like whether it's a, you know, a big endorsement deal, whether it's a big brand sponsorship that I get or whether it's, you know, fashion week, I'm sitting front row next to who knows who. Yeah, you know, exactly. It's like, I think it happens just about every single time. Cause I know that they're sitting or it's just in my head and maybe they're not, but in my head, they're thinking like, why am I sat next to this guy? You know, this little TikToker and it's like.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  That's what you think they're thinking.

• 22:22Speaker 01

  Of course. And that's just me like self sabotaging, if you will. And I think.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  So you feel like an imposter.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Of course, which is not good. And like my team gets mad at me for it cause they're like.

• 22:35Speaker 01

  I I don't know, cuz then it's one of those things where I I almost enjoy that feeling. I always I don't enjoy the feeling, but I would rather have that mindset than being like feeling like I'm entitled to to be sat here. It's like, you know, looking at the yeah, like you're sitting next to me, you know, like I was not like,

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 22:54Speaker 01

  Which I am very well aware that there are people out there that may have that mentality and it's like, go like, I applaud the confidence, um, but I I don't think I would. I think I would rather take the, you know, I haven't quite earned it yet, so I'm gonna continue to work until I do feel like I earn it. But I just don't know if I'll ever, I think it's something within me that I don't think. If I continue to chase that, I might just tire myself out because I don't ever wanna have that entitlement attitude of being like. But I think there's a fine line between like the gratitude and being like, I earned this, you know, I worked my ass off for this and I deserve to be here or I deserve

• 23:34Speaker 01

  this opportunity. And so that's what I'm always kind of split in between minds of uh. Do I deserve this or should I just be grateful for it? And always grateful, but there are times where of course like I'm insecure and I'm like. You know, it should have been this guy or.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Really?

• 23:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  Are there any other insecurities or feelings of being an imposter besides that that you experience?

• 24:01Speaker 01

  Nothing really like jumps to mind, but I'm sure that there are.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  That's the main thing, though.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Right. I think that's the main thing in terms of like feeling like an imposter.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Every time I see one of your photos or a video or a post of yours, you're you're pretty much smiling.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  You're this whole time smiling.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  You seem like a very happy guy. This is obviously the first time we've connected really uh in person in a meaningful way, but you seem to be a very happy kid. You seem to be youngest of three. You had a good parents, you know, two older sisters who really supported you and probably like my older sisters told you how to treat women.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  Told you how to be respectful, like they did with me.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  But is there ever any moments where you are sad?

• 24:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And I think uh. I don't know. I uh that I think growing up in a female dominated household, it was a.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  It taught me a lot about women and, you know, they gave me a lot of lessons about how to treat, you know. And I've had a lot of people in my life tell me how evident it is that I've had that sibling, like that sister upbringing. And I take that as a compliment and I, and I, I love that I'm able, you know, I, I love that I have that respect and that I know that my mom has given me everything and my dad has as well, don't get me wrong, but I think I have a certain appreciation for what women do and.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  But yeah, going back to it, I think, of course I get sad.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  You do?

• 25:36Speaker 01

  Of course. And I think.

• 25:37Speaker 02

  But you're always, it seems like you're always happy.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:39Speaker 02

  You've got everything going for you. How could you, how could Noah Beck be sad?

• 25:42Speaker 01

  I think that's, you know, I, it's weird with TikTok and with anything, social media, anything on my phone. You know, the moment I start to, I, I bet it's listening right now. It's crazy because I'll, you kind of, it takes you down this rabbit hole of like, I'll mention to like a friend and be like, hey, like I'm feeling my best today. Like I'm sad about this, that. Then all of a sudden like I'll go on my for you page later and it's about like, it's like sad core TikTok and it's like making me even sadder.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Oh man.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it really sucks because I'm like, I don't want to see this right now. I want to see like funny videos or like something that'll, but at the end of the day, like, you know, I read or I'll see often, you know, the people that are the happiest, you know, like checking on them, you know, because it may be a blanket or it may be something and I don't know, I don't think, I've definitely, definitely get sad and I, but I think it's one of those things where

• 26:45Speaker 01

  I try, and I had a therapist once tell me this and I, and I think it really helped me. I try to like, not enjoy, obviously, that's the, that's the wrong word for it, but I try to appreciate the times where I feel sad because that's what makes you human and I'm glad that I have those feelings because if I wasn't, then I would be a robot and I, but I know people that are pretty numb to, like I know people that, I don't know, I, I, I like how in touch I am with my emotion and I'm not afraid to tell people if I get sad, I'm not like afraid to reach out, but there are definitely times where.

• 27:25Speaker 01

  I have been and I'm getting better with it, but I think there have been times where I've kinda, you know, like it's the classic, like I'm fine, I'm fine, you know, and it's like, that's when I want someone to come.

• 27:34Speaker 02

  But you're really not.

• 27:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, like that's when I want someone to be like, just be there with me, you know, like I know.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  Cause I've had friends that, you know, needed the same and, and I always want to think that, I've tried to think that I'm a very compassionate person. I try to be empathic.

• 27:50Speaker 02

  You got a compassionate heart, I can feel it.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Thank you. And, and I try and that's something I work out a lot and I don't ever wanna let that go. But I um, I've had times where like I can see like, close friends, you know, something's off and then I just would want to give them what I would want in that moment. And everyone's different. So it's like, they may react to it differently, but I know at the end of the day, like,

• 28:13Speaker 01

  it's easier or it's, it would be better if I was there for them than if I was not, despite whether they want it or not. And I don't know, but what I get sad about, it's so many things, but

• 28:27Speaker 01

  I think recently, what we were talking about, a bit about off camera and uh, what I have no problem talking about is uh, you know, we're all human, you know, we all have relationships with other humans, interactions and uh,

• 28:43Speaker 01

  yeah, I think that, that was one of the things that I've probably been most sad about lately.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  Really?

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I think um,

• 28:50Speaker 02

  Well, to give the context of this, uh, you know, when I first heard about you, you were blowing up on social media and then I started seeing you in a relationship on social media. And this is something that I think is, there's some pros and cons to being in a relationship publicly.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Especially in a social media world.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:12Speaker 02

  What has been the, the best part about being in a relationship publicly on social media with someone who's also growing in their own inspiring ways?

• 29:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  And what has been the most challenging part about that experience in a relationship on social media?

• 29:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think, I think the best part was

• 29:33Speaker 01

  That we were there for each other and that we understood how one another were feeling when something like it wasn't a completely new world. I didn't have to explain to my partner. You know, this is how I'm feeling and them being like, well, I don't understand because I can't even imagine, you know, and it was kind of just like an unsaid thing that we both just kind of understood like, hey, if you were getting, if something were to happen and they were getting hate online, whether, you know, even though it blows blows off in a day or two, like,

• 30:06Speaker 01

  there would just be times where I'm like, like, I know I'm here telling you not to look at it. I can't be naive and be like, you know, I like, I understand, like, I'm like, I get it, like, seeing it despite whether it gets to you or not. I can only imagine like, because when it happens to me, like when the, whether it's like a controversy, like, I don't know, I haven't been in anything like crazy, thank God, and knock on wood, because

• 30:30Speaker 02

  Just some negative comments here and there.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, like I said, it's one of those things where I just am myself. So if I, if I ever, I don't know, like, I have nothing really to hide. So thankfully, and but there were times when just something would happen and you know, she would get comments that were not very nice. And I'm just like, you know, it's, it's not like a totally oblivious thing where if I was dating someone else that wasn't in the industry, they would be like, just don't look at it. You're fine, you know, and it's like, I get it. And I think that was the best, like, one of the best parts of the relationship was knowing that we just, we were in it together and we both just understood. We both had this like unspoken like, yeah, like, we just kind of just got each other in a sense and

• 31:17Speaker 02

  And the biggest challenge about being in a public

• 31:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think the biggest challenge was

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Especially as a twenty year old.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  You know, and really your first deeply intimate, you know, kind of relationship is what it sounds like.

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that that right there was probably the hardest part was it kind of us just figuring this out together and despite, I don't know, she

• 31:41Speaker 01

  She had moved out to LA a few months before I did. And when I came out to LA, like,

• 31:49Speaker 01

  we kind of hit it off very quickly. We started off as like really good friends and I was just like, I just really like being around this girl. And then, you know, one thing led to another and we're dating. And then the word gets out and so now we're in a public relationship at 19 and it's like.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Who, she was 19 as well at the same time, same age?

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, same age. And I think the biggest challenge was just like everyone having a say. Everyone, like you could have zero followers and your comment could blow up.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  And typically with how social media is and just how everything is, it's like, typically the things that go the most viral or to get the most attention are negative things. You know, it's never like, I love them so much together, like people are gonna see that and whatever. Like, you know, it's like, or on the latter, it's like, I hate them together, here's why. And it's like, that'll get more views. I don't know, it's just everyone having a say despite who you are, where you're from, what you know about us. Like, I think everyone has a voice, everyone's in the relationship at that point. And that was very tricky because we were figuring this world out and.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  You're figuring life out.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  Right, we're human.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Social media out.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  19 years old, like we're human and like no one ever has it figured out. But at 19, you really don't have it figured out. And like despite like, I think I'm very grateful for everything that I have to this day. But like, I'm still figuring it out. I still don't know what I want to do. I'm still like, it is not all sunshine and rainbows. And I think, I think that's just part of being human. And yeah, I would say.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  What made you most sad about the experience?

• 33:31Speaker 01

  The, the ending of it. And I think.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think just having someone in your life, like having that support system and someone that knows every little thing about you. Literally like, and I don't know, we, it was such a weird time. Like it was something that not many people can relate to and like, everyone has their first true love and I, I, she was mine. And I think everyone's experience is different. But I think the ways our, the way ours trickle down was just so bizarre and so unique in terms of, you know, you like a girl, you start dating her, you're 19 years old. This is a normal thing. You'd be in college, you know, you're going to school, you're

• 34:22Speaker 01

  holding your bags, you know, you're doing that stuff. Whereas like this time, it's like, hey, like, do you want to hang out today? Like, no, I have, I have a photo shoot or, you know, no, like, I'm shooting a music video or this, that. And it's like, or you're together every single day and I don't, there's just so many like factors to it. And I think us, I don't know, I can go, I can go on and on about like, what makes like a breakup hard. But at the end of the, I think most people know what makes it hard. I think just like our, our bond that we had was really tricky. And I think, uh, what was tricky to recover from, cause it was so good. And then,

• 35:01Speaker 02

  I remember seeing a video of you. I can't remember where, it must've been a year and a half ago, two years ago. Someone asked you a question, it might've been a vlog somewhere. Somehow this popped up on my TikTok or YouTube or something and I, and I saw it. Where I remember hearing you say, someone asked you a question about, will you marry her?

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:19Speaker 02

  And you said, yes, like without a hesitation.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  Or would you like to marry her? Or if, you know, whatever it was, but they said something about would, would you want to marry her? And you were just like, yes.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Like straight on in their face, like no hesitation.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  So when you have that expectation, especially in intimacy and a relationship, that then who knows what happens in the future, but then there's a breakup. How does that make you feel when you had that vision?

• 35:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, uh, my mom always told me that I, I thought a lot with my heart and I'm a very, I, I'm a logical thinker as well, but I think when you're, when you're blinded by love, it's like, You know, that there's that hope and like, I think what I had with her, there like, I I held on to any bit of hope. Really? And yeah, and um, I don't know, I I wish,

• 36:14Speaker 01

  I don't know, like, I think, I I love very,

• 36:21Speaker 01

  what's the word? I I love hard, like, Love deep. I love deeply and I love like,

• 36:27Speaker 01

  I don't know, I I like dedicated a lot of my time to being the best boyfriend I could. Really? Yeah, and um, And the bond was strong. Yeah, the bond was strong. That's not like to toot my own horn or anything like I just, I'm very confident in the way that

• 36:43Speaker 01

  we were together and, you know, things just, it's life, like, things just don't last always and things aren't forever and, I don't know, I still have so much love for her and it's just one of those things where

• 36:59Speaker 01

  we both have stuff to figure out and we both have a lot of growing to do. Because I think us hopping into that relationship and us, not even relationship aside, I think us having the careers we do now has stunted a lot of things that would have, I don't know, like, I think it's stunted a lot of things that like a normal nineteen year old should have experienced. Like what? Like, she never went to college, for example, so in school years, I was ahead of her one year, so I had like a bit of a college experience, whereas she was gonna go to Alabama and like get that experience. She never had it. She never had it and She went right to Hollywood. Right to Hollywood. Intense, man.

• 37:41Speaker 01

  It's intense and it's it's really straight out of the movies, like, it's really one of those things where it's like, you know, you move to Hollywood, but in like, there was never that, it's it's just so different than what you see in the movies where like, you go out to Hollywood, you know, you get a job as a waiter and then like you're going auditions and you're like trying to make it, whereas like,

• 37:59Speaker 01

  We kind of moved out because we made it.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  You made it.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, we moved out and we had the, the, like, I wouldn't have dropped my Division One Full Ride Scholarship. I wouldn't have dropped that for nothing. Like, I had a guaranteed spot in this house. A guaranteed, like, lots of talks with, like, the manager of the house and was like, "We can promise you that you'll grow. We can promise you that we can provide this in, like, exposure." And I was just like,

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  Okay, like, let's give it a shot, you know, it's like, soccer was on pause at the time, so it was one of those things. But, yeah, we kind of, like, and when she moved out, like, they had made it. And it's one of those things where, I don't know, I, uh, it's just, it's just cra- it's crazy, yeah.

• 38:42Speaker 02

  If you could go back right before you moved here, right before you met her, and give yourself advice, three pieces of advice about entering a relationship with someone, whether it's her or anyone, knowing what you know now, after a lot of highs, amazing connection, you know, a lot of love, a bond, but then, you know, a heartbreak and some sadness, what advice would you give to yourself at nineteen?

• 39:10Speaker 01

  I would, number one, I would say, protect yourself, protect your heart. And I think that is like, something that I'm very, guarded up now. And I think,

• 39:27Speaker 01

  I don't know, I, I think, yeah, protecting yourself, uh, taking it slow. You know, we cut, we,

• 39:35Speaker 01

  we were nineteen, you know, we, we really liked hanging out with each other, so we were like, let's just, we might as well date, you know, it's one of those things, and so, and especially when COVID was happening, we were with each other every single day. And it was like,

• 39:49Speaker 01

  I think,

• 39:52Speaker 01

  You know, when you're constantly available for someone, that can be, that can be taken advantage of. And I think being less available in the future, not, not because I want to, I want to be there like every single day. I want like to drop anything at like, the sound, like the sound of the text and like, what are you doing? Oh, what do you want me to be doing? Like, you know, I'm just how I am, like, and like my mother. Yeah, I'm a lover. I love love, but it's also what makes me the most sad sometimes. And I think that's.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  Well, if you, if you give and give and give, and then there's maybe an unspoken expectation or you, you, you would hope or wish someone wouldn't do the same for you. And I'm not speculating anything here. I'm just saying, you know, when you're a giver and you want to see someone happy and you love the feeling of being with someone and you feel happier together, it's really challenging when it doesn't work out.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  And I've had many.

• 40:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  Sad breakups.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  That were painful and hard and challenging, but at the same time, taught me the most about how I can be a better person, how I can create better boundaries for myself, how I can, how I can courageously communicate.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  Consciously in better ways with, you know, the next partner I was with to, to make sure that I focus on my vision first and then bringing the relationship in.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  Second, as opposed to dropping everything always for the partner. There's a balance there, but.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, filling up your own cup.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  Filling up your own cup constantly.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Having them fall in love with the overflow. Yeah, that was like,

• 41:31Speaker 01

  I think,

• 41:33Speaker 01

  yeah, like one of the, that's, that's one of the things that I mean, she taught me was, and I think unintentionally she taught me to like really protect myself.

• 41:42Speaker 02

  Really?

• 41:43Speaker 01

  I just, I, yeah, I like, yeah, fall hard and fast. And I was, uh, I don't know. Everything kind of just moved very quickly. And then, yeah, when you are a giver, it's one of those things where you just so bad, want to see him happy. And then when you realize it's not you and when you realize, or I don't even when you, like, I never fully realized that. Like, that was the thing. I was like, no, like, I'm not taking no for an answer. I'm gonna try my hardest to like.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  Make it work.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  Make it work, you know? And always gonna be available. I'm never gonna give her a reason to not be happy. And then you realize it's.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  When they constantly keep telling you it's not you like in it's the hardest thing because it's like, look, I know it's not me, but like, I know it's not me making you sad because I'm doing everything I can to make you happy, but I'm going to try to be the one to make you happy.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  Right.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  And it's like, when they constantly tell you like, there's just nothing you can do. It's like, I don't want to say no for an answer, you know? I don't want to say like, I don't want to like, accept the fact that I can't make my girlfriend happy. And that was probably the biggest, the biggest thing that we ran into was.

• 42:51Speaker 02

  Man, I know that feeling. I see a lot of my self in you with that because as athletes, you don't want to fail.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  No.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  And you're like, I'm going to do whatever it takes. We're going to make this work, even if it's hurting me. I'm going to do what it takes.

• 43:06Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I've had so many, yeah.

• 43:09Speaker 02

  And that is a painful realization.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:14Speaker 02

  When you're like, I'm doing everything, I'm shifting, I'm doing, I'm changing who I am just so that it works. And then it doesn't work and you're like, wow, I just shifted my whole identity for a relationship that no longer doesn't work.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  And I did that too many times.

• 43:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  I repeated that pattern in many relationships because partners I chose for whatever reason weren't happy with me.

• 43:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:37Speaker 02

  And, and they wanted me to change to try to make them happy and never worked. And I finally realized, it took me until a few years ago, that I finally realized that you can't make your partner happy. You can add to their happiness.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:50Speaker 02

  But they got to focus on their own happiness.

• 43:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, as soon as it becomes reliant, yeah.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  If someone's a five out of a 10, you can't bring them to a nine consistently. I'd be able to influence them to get to a six moments here, they can add to their happiness.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  But if they're not doing their life in a way that brings them joy and fulfillment.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  There's not much we can do.

• 44:11Speaker 01

  No.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  And that's a hard thing for athletes like us who want to win and want to succeed and want to like accomplish. It's really hard, man.

• 44:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  And the thing that I want to acknowledge you for Noah is being 22, and you mentioned talking to a therapist. I think I would have never at 22 talked to a therapist.

• 44:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  I started at 30, 10 years ago, talking to therapists. It was one of the best things that ever did for me. It helped me bring me so much peace. It's what's gotten me to a high eight, low nine.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:37Speaker 02

  Of inner peace.

• 44:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  It's having that place to process, having that place to learn new tools. So the fact that you're doing this at 22, I really commend you for that. And acknowledge you for, for doing that, because I think it's a powerful tool to use. Now, what advice would you give to yourself?

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Moving forward and navigating this next season? Because I know you're trying to figure out like, okay, well, who am I again? And, and you know, you love deeply, but do you? Do you even think it's, you know, worth getting into another relationship? Soon with someone, or is it like, you want to give yourself space and time to kind of? Really focus on yourself and your career? What's, what's the advice you would give yourself? Of this next chapter?

• 45:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I think that's something I'm like actively searching for is.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  At the end of the day, like just doing what makes me happy and finding out what makes me happy is like.

• 45:38Speaker 01

  Again, like a never ending search because it's like, yeah, this makes me happy in the moment, you know, like going to an amusement park, riding rides with like friends and stuff like that. Like that makes me happy. But that's not something I can like apply to my everyday life that can make me more at peace with myself like, you know, so. Doing things, I don't know, like I, I really.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  I don't know. I, I think these past few months I've. I've really like what you're talking about before the camera, it's one of those things where when you end with someone on good terms. It's hard because it's like.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  You guys ended on good terms?

• 46:15Speaker 01

  On great terms.

• 46:16Speaker 02

  On great terms?

• 46:16Speaker 01

  Great terms.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  So it was like, you still care?

• 46:18Speaker 01

  But that makes it even harder because it's like then it gets dragged out, like even though it was a year ago, it gets dragged out. And then it's like, you're still there for each other. And then, you know, you, you still want to tell your person every good thing that happens. You still want to like tell them like, hey, this happened today, like, and you know, and. I don't know. And then as soon as.

• 46:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  So it wasn't like some blow up?

• 46:40Speaker 01

  No, not at all.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  Get away from me and I hate you.

• 46:43Speaker 01

  Not at all.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  I love you so much, but we can't be together, right?

• 46:46Speaker 01

  We have to grow apart. We have to.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  Gosh, that's the hardest.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  The hardest and that's why it's tricky now because. You know, it, it comes to a point where I was telling you like where.

• 47:00Speaker 01

  You almost.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  You wake up a bit confused sometimes cuz I'm like, you know, I feel like I'm good, you know, like I feel like. I want to. Rekindle it like I want to give it another go, you know, and then. Ultimately, it's not up, it's not up to you when you, when you, the other person's fully in control of. The decision. The decision and when the ball's in their court and me like when you are ready, just know that I'm here, it's a bit tricky, there's a bit of a power play that's like. As much as I just wanna like wait around cuz I. Do enjoy this person so much and like, yeah, and. Hard to imagine life without them sometime. There is like this. When you kind of go no contact, you kind of step away from it and then it's like.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  Months, like a couple of months go by and it's like, okay, wow, like I'm feeling better, like the first month is really hard, I'm feeling better. Then all of a sudden, all it takes is a. We'll pull you back in. All it takes is like a text like, hey, miss you. Girls know what they're doing, man. Girls know what they're doing sometimes. So tricky and. A lot like you, like I, I don't drink and I've never drank in my life, I've never done any drugs, I just. I.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  I don't have that excuse sometimes where sometimes. Feel it. I'm still, yeah. The sadness, you gotta go through the experiences. Exactly, and I don't have that excuse as to. Sorry, I didn't mean to text like I was drunk and it's like. It's been three months and you randomly, and so it's like, now I'm back into it and so that's, that's the hardest part is knowing that like.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  If I decide to text you. That is. Sober me, that is. Me that genuinely means it, you know, it's, it's never a question of like. Like, I don't like, was this just a drunk text, like, does she mean it like this, that, it's like, from me, it's like. I'm gonna respect your boundaries, but if it comes to a point where I'm just like, I don't care, I'm just gonna follow my heart, like. I wanna do this again, it's like. I don't know, it's tricky, it's very tricky, but. Yeah, this, this feels a lot like a, like talks that I have with like a therapist. Yeah, of course, man. And it's a. Yeah, I, I'm glad I started talking to him too cuz I've had friends that recommended me. Wow. Because.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  I don't know, even when things started to get really good, even when I started to get into a better mindset of like, you know, life goes on and I can love this person from afar, but right now it's like if we have a romance period, there's no rush. And it's like, we'll find each other. So I think

• 49:35Speaker 01

  there's really no point in rushing it. And that's like what I kind of had to accept. And so with this therapist, I'm like, it's nice talking to someone when things are good so that they stay good.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  That's the best time, dude.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Cause it's like when they're bad, it's like you have tools to use like when things are like, when you get in that mindset of thinking, when you go down a rabbit hole, it's like, remember what they told you, like do this, do that. But when you're happy, it's like, you know, that's the time when you're supposed to stay happy.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  When I entered the relationship I'm in with my girlfriend Martha,

• 50:05Speaker 02

  we started dating, we took it slow.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  We took it slow, which I never done in the past, but I decided I'm going to do everything different.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  And we took it slow. I was also doing individual therapy. And we made a commitment and agreement together before we got exclusively committed.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:23Speaker 02

  We said, I made a suggestion, but she was like quickly to agree. I said, hey, I would really like to start in therapy together. Couples therapy.

• 50:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:32Speaker 02

  And just try it differently because I'd been in a lot of failed relationships. I tried a lot of stuff and none of it worked. So let me try something completely different.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  She was like, absolutely. I'm down. And it has been the greatest gift that we have given ourselves and the relationship because any disagreement, any misunderstanding, any confusion or a feeling of like, oh, that didn't feel good.

• 50:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:54Speaker 02

  We're able to communicate it consciously. Whenever we go to that session together and it allows us to create ground rules, it allows us to create boundaries.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  Allows us to create agreements. And it brings me more peace.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:06Speaker 02

  Having that understanding and someone equally as committed to personal growth.

• 51:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  As I am.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  Love it.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  And it, and it's, I'm not saying you need to do that 22 in the relationship that you had next, but for me, doing it when things are good is the best time to do it. So I really acknowledge you for doing that.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Well, I love the the lessons that you would give your younger self.

• 51:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:30Speaker 02

  Take it slow. And it sounds like, you know, you had this realization, hey, we're meant to be. We'll find each other at some point.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  Whether it's in a week, a year, three years, you know. So taking it slow, I think, is is great wisdom that you shared with yourself.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Took some time to come to that, though. It definitely took some time to like, acknowledge that that was the case, because I'm like, you know, you're sitting there fighting for it, and it's like, make this work. Let's let's do it. Let's give it another go.

• 51:57Speaker 02

  What do you need and how can I do this?

• 51:59Speaker 01

  How can I help, you know, like, you know, don't worry about how I'm feeling, because that does not matter right now. Like, what matters is like, we make you happy, and it's like, at what caught, like, at what point is it like, do you have to take a step back? Because if I saw one of my friends doing this?

• 52:13Speaker 02

  What would you say to them?

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Like, dude, come on, like, you gotta put yourself first. Like, you have to like, you know, and I'm like, it's so hard when you're blinded by it. But, yeah, I, uh, yeah.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  So if you saw a friend of yours struggling in a relationship, you'd be like, hey, if she needs space, give her space and go focus on your life.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's so hard.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  Right?

• 52:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's so hard when you're in it, because it's like,

• 52:35Speaker 02

  You know what the sexiest thing, and you know what the sexiest, most attractive thing is for a woman? Is when a man is fully committed to his vision and his mission, taking care of his life,

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:44Speaker 02

  in service to his friends, his family, his community, and joyful.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  Not needing a relationship, not checking in constantly to see, hey, what can I do for you? But in his purpose, that is when women are most attracted to men.

• 53:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so. Two independents coming together, yeah.

• 53:05Speaker 02

  And and then you can come together and support one another with each other's lives individually and together. But if you're always in support, I think it's amazing. I understand where you're coming from.

• 53:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:17Speaker 02

  I think it's like, wow, that's like, a dream guy, who's always here to show up for her.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  And like, I'm flattered that you say that, because it's like, in my head, I'm like, you know, who's the kind of guy I want dating my daughter, or my, I mean, yeah, daughter.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  Future kid, yeah.

• 53:30Speaker 01

  Future kid, but also my sisters, you know, I'm very like, even though I'm a young, like, I'm still very protective of my sisters, and like, they started talking to a guy, and I don't like it, I'm gonna tell her, I'm like,

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 53:39Speaker 01

  Don't waste your time, like, I don't, I don't like this guy, like, and here's why. But fortunately, I haven't really, I haven't really had to say that to either of them. They're good at picking, which is nice. But I think it's one of those things where.

• 53:53Speaker 01

  I don't know, like I don't ever really wanna change. How like those qualities about myself and I've questioned them because I'm like, this isn't working right now. Do I?

• 54:05Speaker 01

  I don't know, like I I get so split between two minds of like. This isn't working. Should I try the latter? Should I?

• 54:12Speaker 02

  You shouldn't be a jerk.

• 54:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. It's like I don't ever want to even like question like, should I?

• 54:19Speaker 01

  You know, cuz there's that saying, nice guys finish last and it's like. I don't think that's the case, honestly. Like I I really think like kindness wins at the end of the day. It's like.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  But it's not about changing, it's about evolving.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 54:31Speaker 02

  And it's keeping the core of who you are, the values, the generosity, the kindness. The support, that's like a dream.

• 54:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  As a friend and as a partner.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  And it's evolving into saying. My health, my mission, my my values need to be my number one priority.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  And that's hard to say.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  And most, most people don't, like, most people in relationships don't like hearing that. And this is my personal experience. Like, I'm not sharing this as like what everyone should do, but when I shifted this and I said. Instead of making someone else number one and making my mission and my health number one. And then a relationship, second or third.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Everything shifted for me and my relationship is healthy and happy. My girlfriend loves that about me cuz I have it on purpose. And she still thinks I'm very generous and giving and I show up in a big way.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  It's not like you're changing into like, I'm never gonna be there. The opposite. It's showing up for yourself the way you would or someone like that.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  First. And then showing up.

• 55:41Speaker 01

  Right, no, it makes sense. Prioritizing other things, yeah.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  That's it. What has been the biggest thing that's opened up for you during this conversation as we get to the last few questions?

• 55:52Speaker 01

  I don't know. I I think, uh. I think at times I find myself in like, again, going back to like my mom and like my dad, like they always kinda told me I'm a bit of a. A bit of an old soul, but like.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  I take it as a compliment, but I also I'm like, nah, like I can have fun like this, that.

• 56:11Speaker 01

  But I think I just grew up with older people and I grew up with like older friends and like to this day, all my like closest friends in L A are older. And I don't know, I find

• 56:25Speaker 01

  like wisdom and I find like more experience very appealing and like not even just as like, I'm saying like I'm old into older women like it's like

• 56:33Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  As like friends and like companions, it's nice to know that someone has, like I like to learn from people and I like to be a sponge in conversations and I like to like really just, you know, soak everything in. And I think that's been lovely talking to you today about and just like hearing these things. So obviously, you know, I share a lot with my therapist, but at the same time, like it's nice to hear it from

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 56:59Speaker 01

  You know, a guy perspective where, I don't know, it's just been nice.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  That's good, man. Yeah, it's been a fun conversation. Um, I've got a few final questions for you, but I know you've been working on a few things. How can we support you in your professional career right now? What's the thing you're most excited about that you are launching?

• 57:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I mean, the main thing right now, uh, I would say is the recent launch of my apparel brand.

• 57:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. As of right now, it's genderless undergarments and gender neutral. It's called E fiz.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  E fiz.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  E fiz. Or, you know, all my friends are like, so when am I getting some ifis? And I'm like, yeah, that works too. You know, it's like, I'm not gonna stay here and be like, it's E fiz, you know, it's like, you know, it's motto. So however you want to pronounce it. But yeah, it's a, as of right now, we just have underwear and undergarments. Um, but like I said, genderless and so made for everyone and it's a, it's really, I'm really excited about it and I'm really passionate about this new project because I didn't want this brand to be

• 58:06Speaker 01

  Merchy, if you will. I wanted to, I want, I want to build a brand and I want to curate something and foster a community that has for everyone and I want, you know, it's really cool. Like it's one of my favorite parts about social media and it's one of my favorite parts about being an influencer, content creator, whatever.

• 58:25Speaker 01

  You know, creating an aesthetic and I, and I, and I really have fun with like photography and all this. And so for our first campaign shoot, we, we kind of went back in time to and did like a Greek mythology thing and it was really cool. And I had a blast doing it, but yeah, the story of Ephes kind of originates back in Greek mythology. Yeah. And I can bore you with the whole story of the details, but it's basically a lovely, beautiful story about, at the end of the day, like love conquering all. It's about like gender fluidity. You know, this king that wanted a, a son, but then had a daughter and then raised her as a son and then she fell in love with a girl. And so it's just like, love conquering all at the end of the day. And like, I think it goes perfectly.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  I know we kind of rabbit hole down like relationship stuff and I can talk forever. It goes back to I just love, love, but it's also like my biggest kryptonite, I think is like, it definitely hurts me the most. But yeah, with, with Ephes, I'm just very excited and you know, right now at this given moment, soon releasing more, but right now we have two designs of the underwear, two waistbands, if you will. One is called the heritage and one is called the classic. And yeah, I love them. Like they're great. And, and I really, and I mean, I think the,

• 59:46Speaker 01

  the like initial idea of creating underwear brand, like I'm sure you might be wondering like, why underwear? Like why, why even doing this? Like,

• 59:58Speaker 01

  When I first started social media, like what gained me a lot of my, my following, what I think got a lot of views. Shirtless. Shirtless. And uh, me and the boys were kind of uh, we were free billboards for Calvin Klein. Alright. With our waistbands like always showing like that kind of thing. Yeah. And I was like, had this idea and I was like, what if, what if we owned, like what if we wore something that we owned and just constantly had it in our content organically where it's not like, we're not getting paid to post it. We're not doing this, but at the end of the day, it's just pushing something that we're passionate about and that is ours. And so, I kind of kept this idea to myself and cause I was like, I don't even know where to start. It was just an idea I had. And then um,

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  after some time, the conversation came back up and after we all kind of split ways and like moved into different houses, um,

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  I had a talk with my manager. I was like, I really want to do this. Like I think this is really cool and kind of exciting. Uh, and that was at the time when I kind of started to get more into fashion as well. And

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  I was like, this just feels perfect. Like I feel like we should do this. And then I was like, where do we start? And fortunately I was, I had people around me that, you know, I asked a lot of questions. I had um, you know, a lot of friends that, you know, like yourself that I would go to and be like, that are older and be like, hey, put your arm around me. Like, how do we do this? Like mentor me a bit, like on how to start a business and how to do this. Like, I want to learn. And so when creating this brand, like, I made sure I was very hands on because I was like, this is my baby. Like this is like my thing that I want to really blow up. And like in a couple of years, I like, everything goes well. Like the dream happens. Like I want people to buy the product for what it is and not even know that I have anything to do with it. Like,

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  so yeah, it's something that is uh, really exciting to me and I. Exciting, man. I can see it. I can see it on you. And eventually open up to.

• 1:01:51Speaker 01

  I mean, there's really no like, there's no cap. Like, I don't, I don't know where it's gonna go as a brand, but very exciting things. I think it's a, it's one of those things where we'll kind of just.

• 1:02:02Speaker 02

  See where it goes.

• 1:02:02Speaker 01

  See where it goes.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  Can we buy it right now? Is it out?

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  You can buy it right now. Yeah. So came out June 6th, was the launch of the official like, uh, site and everything. So yeah, right now we just have the icon or the classic and the heritage.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  Okay. What's the website?

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  It's called iphies.us.

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  I P H I S, right?

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  Okay. Dot U S.

• 1:02:21Speaker 01

  Dot U S.

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  Or if you go to your Instagram or TikTok.

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  It's anywhere. You'll find it. Yeah. It's in my bio. Yeah.

• 1:02:26Speaker 02

  Iphies.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  Iphies.

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  Dot U S. I love that. You're also, you're also all over social media. Noah Beck everywhere. Um, so make sure you guys check out Noah's content, follow him, subscribe. Even though you're not an OG commenter, you can still join the party of the 50 million plus and, and hang out. Um, these are a couple of questions I ask everyone at the end. But I usually don't have many people your age on here. I've had a few people in their, you know, young twenties, but. Uh, I'm gonna ask you this question and have you dream and imagine for a moment. So this question is called the three truths. It's a hypothetical question.

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  Imagine you get to live as long as you want to live. Eighty, ninety, a hundred, a hundred and twenty, whatever it is. You get to live as long as you want to live, but it's your last day. And you have accomplished, created, and experienced life to the fullest in every area. Financially, career, personally, professionally, love, all these things, family, all of it. You've created this life.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  Love it. Okay.

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  But for whatever reason, in this scenario, you've got to take all of your content, your work, your business, your products to the next place. They're not here in this physical world anymore. So no one has access to this conversation, to anything you've ever posted online. It's all gone.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:03:48Speaker 02

  Hypothetical.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  And for whatever reason, you get to leave three truths behind. Three lessons that you would share with the world. And that's all we have to remember you by are these three truths.

• 1:04:02Speaker 02

  What would be those three truths that you would leave behind?

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  Trying not to steal like a quotes that I've seen. I'm trying not to steal.

• 1:04:10Speaker 02

  Whatever comes to your heart? Yeah.

• 1:04:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  Whatever you feel, if there's a quote that really stands out to you as a, as a good truth, feel free to share it.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  I think something that I try to spread and I think that can resonate with all my content and kind of going back to like, you know, despite, you know, being able to get sad and, you know, being human. Um, I try to be very positive and I think that kind of goes back to, you know, life's too short, you might as well do what makes you happy. So I think, uh, doing what makes you happy could be one.

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  You know, it's funny, there was, I had, I had lunch with a friend not too long ago and we, like, we had known each other and like, but we never had like a proper like sit down. And I was like fortunate enough that we got the chance to kind of like our, our schedules, our busy schedules kind of aligned up. Yeah. And so it was nice like having like a really nice conversation with him. And one of the things that he told me was that I'm definitely going to have the truth because I think this, it just like really, I don't know, it, it just like really like touched me in a way that I was like, if you're ever doubting something, if you're ever doing this, and he told me, he was like, don't ever keep your talents hidden.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Cause if you do, you're owing the world like a dis, like a disservice. And so like by not sharing your talents, you're, you know, stealing the world from potential joy that people can get from you. So I thought that was really interesting and I think that can resonate with like what I do as a social media content creator is like everything that I put out. It's really amazing and I think that my favorite comments are like, it's not my favorite, but it's the comments that like really like touch me and like really hit me and like really, I don't know.

• 1:06:08Speaker 01

  I guess give me that reassurance that I'm doing something right is when people say like, you genuinely saved my life or like that stuff like is really.

• 1:06:19Speaker 01

  Like knowing that there's someone out there that you've saved with your videos is just insane to me. And so that's why I think like that one kinda.

• 1:06:26Speaker 02

  That's good.

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  Hits home because there could be someone out there that needs to hear what you have to say.

• 1:06:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:32Speaker 01

  So say that.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  Second one and the third truth.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  The third truth, I would say, um, I don't know, this is kinda like more advice to myself that I think could be.

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  Like that.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  And it kinda goes back to it, but instead of just your heart, I would say protect your peace.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  Oof.

• 1:06:49Speaker 01

  And I think like, again, a bit cliche, but. It's one of those things where it's simple, but it's so true. And I think, uh, I think once I kinda started to apply that to my life, I think things got a lot. A lot better.

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 1:07:07Speaker 01

  For. I don't know, just find finding something that like makes you at peace and finding something and then finding ways to like constantly apply it. So it doesn't, yeah.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Beautiful, man. The simplest stuff is usually the most important.

• 1:07:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  I love these three truths. Um, before I ask the final question, no, I want to acknowledge you for your openness. I appreciate your openness. I appreciate your generous heart, your, you know, your candor and everything that you shared today and the fact that you're. Again, I think I told you before, I haven't seen you really do a long form conversation like this. So I appreciate you.

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  Being willing to put yourself out there and open up about these things because I think it's gonna inspire and help a lot of people with you doing this, and I hope you do more of this in the future.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:51Speaker 02

  Uh, so I acknowledge you for everything you've had to go through the last three years, you know? Although someone watching or listening might say, well, this kid hasn't actually had to go through that much because it's been success, money, fame.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  Of course, of course.

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  Um, but it's a quote that I'm going to butcher, but a paraphrase from Jim Carrey said, I wish everyone would become rich and famous and realize it's not everything.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  You know, I wish everyone would experience it and realize it's not the key to happiness.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  And this said it better, yeah.

• 1:08:19Speaker 02

  And so I acknowledge you for having to experience life at nineteen into twenty-two.

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  With all this happening all at once. I'm sure a lot of amazing, exciting things, but also some weird, confusing.

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:08:32Speaker 02

  Challenging things too.

• 1:08:36Lewis Howes?

  Final question for you Noah, what is your definition of greatness?

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  I would say greatness to me is

• 1:08:46Speaker 01

  applying yourself every day to be the best version of yourself and doing just doing all the right things while also, you know, living a little and having some fun.

• 1:08:59Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 1:08:59Speaker 01

  You know, and I think that's, that's where I'm constantly split is, uh, you know, maybe, maybe I do need to let loose a little, but at the same time, like,

• 1:09:09Speaker 01

  yeah, I, so I think, yeah, I think that would, that would be my definition of greatness.

• 1:09:14Lewis Howes?

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• 1:09:55Lewis Howes?

  then make sure to sign up for the greatness newsletter and get it delivered right to your inbox over at greatness.com/newsletter. And if no one has told you today, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.