The Snack: Heated Rivalry, Toxic Mom Groups, and New Movie Reviews

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Timothée Chalamet's acceptance speech about Kylie Best/funniest red carpet look for the Critics Choice Awards Movie reviews: Marty Supreme, Housemaid, Is This Thing On? TV reviews: Emily in Paris, Stranger Things, and a deep dive on Heated Rivalry Ashley Tisdale broke up with her celeb mom group Headlines: Tom Brady and Alix Earle, Zach Bryan marries his ex's doppelganger, NYC retires the MetroCard Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Just Thrive: Get 20% off at justthrivehealth.com with promo code GGE. Skims: Shop our favorite bras and underwear at https://skims.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  This week on The Snack, heated rivalry, Ashley Tisdale's toxic mom group, and so many TV and movie reviews.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  This is a Dear Media production.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Enjoy.

• 0:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you know how hard it is for me to not start with heated rivalry?

• 0:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's all I care.

• 0:20Rayna Greenberg?

  It's all I care about.

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  No hi, no hello.

• 0:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys. I've been masturbating to gay porn for days. I haven't left the house. I don't think I've had this many orgasms in my life.

• 0:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I can't. You gotta keep it in your pants for the first half of the snack.

• 0:37Rayna Greenberg?

  It's been out of my pants for days, so.

• 0:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  You gotta keep it in your sweatpants. Are you dressed to eat today? Is that what you're doing?

• 0:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm gonna crop top. I'm the opposite of dressed to eat.

• 0:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're gonna eat after this. Yeah, but you're like.

• 0:47Rayna Greenberg?

  No, this is not my eating outfit.

• 0:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're eating. Are we eating after?

• 0:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I just want to be cute and comfy.

• 0:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, you look more prepared to eat than I do.

• 0:54Rayna Greenberg?

  That is so rude. You look prepared to eat.

• 0:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Now I'm rethinking my jeans because we're about to go eat down, literally.

• 1:02Rayna Greenberg?

  You could change. I swap pants at the house.

• 1:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anyway, we're going out with Emily after this.

• 1:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you said that your New Year's resolution is go on more food adventures. And our friend Emily Fedner, Food Lover's Diary, she's in town. And I was like, who better to take us on a food adventure than Emily?

• 1:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but you asked me, do you want to do Thai or Korean? And I was like, I could do either. And then we landed on Thai. And then Emily posted last night that she's been to Thai Town in four days in a row. And I'm like, she's going for a fifth?

• 1:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I said, we don't have to do this. And she was like, it's fine. And I was like, are you sure? And she was like, yeah, I'm happy with it. I was like, okay, sure. It's my favorite Thai town.

• 1:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's the only like Thai town in the country.

• 1:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Is it?

• 1:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Designated Thai Town.

• 1:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Because like there is like a K town, Korea Town in New York and LA and all kinds of other places, obviously Chinatown, a little Tokyo.

• 1:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I was looking this up.

• 1:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it is the only one.

• 1:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, you did your research. Anyway, I know. Look at me go. My resolutions era.

• 1:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, we have so much TV and movie content to cover. I mean, no one's left the house in weeks.

• 2:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, we did it. We committed.

• 2:04Rayna Greenberg?

  We have consumed all of the television. I got.

• 2:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  We got to the end.

• 2:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I got to the end, to the point that I was watching stuff twice. And like even my rewatches, I'm done with. So I started The Bear last night.

• 2:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I'm so happy. Remind me what you've seen.

• 2:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I just watched season one.

• 2:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did watch season one? Okay. Let's thank our partners.

• 2:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Thank you to Skims. Shop our favorite bras and underwear at skims.com.

• 2:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Just Thrive. Get 20% off at Just Thrive Health with promo code GGE. Okay, we are going to kick it off with a Marty Supreme Report. Get your orange out.

• 2:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I hear Nikki in my head, Nikki Glaser at the Golden Globes going, "Chalamet."

• 2:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, that's not really on our list, but that is Sunday.

• 2:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, good call.

• 2:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we can't wait for the Golden Globes, but we are going to kick it off with a Marty Supreme Report. We did see it. That will be the last part of the report, our reviews. But before that, let's talk about Timothy Chalamet.

• 2:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Chalamet.

• 2:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  At the Critics' Choice Awards.

• 3:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I really didn't watch it because Chelsea Handler was hosting and I don't like to look at her face, but um, you guys, you guys know, the real ones know.

• 3:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Our arch rival?

• 3:10Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not the build of her face. Her face is fine.

• 3:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's not. That's not a dig at her face. It's the-

• 3:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's a dig at her personality.

• 3:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 3:16Rayna Greenberg?

  But-

• 3:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  She started it. She started it.

• 3:18Rayna Greenberg?

  She started it. And I'm continuing it. So I only watched clips, but Timothy Chalamet got up on stage. He won Best Actor and thanked my partner of three years. And I was like, who is his business? I thought his business partner. I was like, surely he's not talking about Kylie? I didn't realize it.

• 3:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, first of all, who is saying the years? Like, was that just? Like, is that a little pick me to say the years? Or did he know it would cause a stir? Like, why would you say the length of time? That was an interesting choice. I thought unless he knew, no one knows it's been three years and about to shake shit up.

• 3:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, but then I look back at the timeline of their relationship and they were at the Beyonce concert-

• 4:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was just gonna say this.

• 4:01Rayna Greenberg?

  In September of 2023, which is two and a half years ago. And they were first spotted like six months before that in January 2023. I mean, this is well documented.

• 4:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, it broke my brain. I was like, hold on. So they've been together longer than, one, me and my husband.

• 4:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 4:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Two, Travis and Taylor. And then I, yes, I had the same thought. I was like, okay, let's run it back to the Renaissance tour. We were there. It was September 4th, 2023. It was Beyonce's birthday show. And they were there in the same show as us and it came out later. They were PDAing. I think that we were clocking it in 2023, but we didn't think it was going to last. So we weren't like, we didn't take it seriously. Like, yeah, I thought it was- I thought, I've always thought they've been cute, but we were like, no way.

• 4:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's just my brain won't accept that this was like a thing. It's like watching a giraffe drive a car. Like, I just, I don't, I'm trying to think of like something I just can't envision happening.

• 4:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really? You still feel like that?

• 4:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, I look at this and I can't, I, I know I've seen it with my own eyes. I just don't get, he's aging backwards. He like shaved. He looked like extra young at the Critic Shorts Awards. He looked like he was 18. It's, my mind can't compute it. She's like this really womanly, curvy mother of two, like, and there's just this child next to her.

• 5:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I mean, this is how I felt in 2023, but I've like fully into it now. And I really, you know, it's like, once you start to really realize how much swag he has.

• 5:23Rayna Greenberg?

  How big his dick is.

• 5:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  How big is that dick he's slanging? Is that a thing? Or you just assume the energy?

• 5:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 5:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  It just makes sense to me. I, I have fully embraced them as a couple, but I think in 2023, we were like, oh, come on. So, but yeah, you're, you're right. But I did not think January 2023, I was like, oh my gosh, I think we all had a record screech moment.

• 5:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody. I thought, when he said partner, I a hundred percent gun to my head. I thought he might be his partner.

• 5:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you think he just literally was like, watch this? Everyone's gonna freak out about that. Like, everyone had the same collective thought. What are you saying? You guys have been together six months.

• 6:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad everybody had the same collective thought. It makes me feel so good when I'm just part of the mainstream.

• 6:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  When he goes, now watch this drive. Do you know that George Bush clip?

• 6:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 6:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shoshank has been doing this a lot. So there's this clip of George Bush and he's on the golf course and he's talking about very serious topics, war or whatever. And then he goes, now watch this drive. And he just goes and hits the ball. And so Shoshank has been doing it at everything.

• 6:26Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, like I, I like to know like what he's been walking around saying around the house. If he does not start walking around saying, I'm coming to the cottage. So. I'll be so upset.

• 6:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right. I'll tell you what he said. And I'm not going to deep dive fully today, but the other day, he said, I'm kicking you out of Montauk.

• 6:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Because he's been watching.

• 6:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's been in that Mormon Wives. I mean, I just, I just really have, not to brag, I have the most perfect partner of three years. I like, the fact that we can watch Mormon Wives and heated rivalry together.

• 7:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. I don't know a lot of men that would watch.

• 7:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  I want to talk about this, straight men watching.

• 7:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I just want him to walk around going, will you come to the college with me this summer?

• 7:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Instead, he's like, I don't know if we can have you in mom talk anymore. Okay, so that is the first part of our Marty Supreme Report. The second part is that Meg Stalter and Paul Downs of Hacks dressed up like Kylie and Timothee Chalamet. They're

• 7:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Like it was Halloween.

• 7:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Their orange outfit that they wore in December. They both wore orange. It was Dumb and Dumber Core. There were so many memes about it and they recreated the look exactly, even down to the poses.

• 7:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Even down to the paddle that he wore, like as a purse. I mean, it was just, it's, you don't really see that unless it's like, I mean, people will recreate looks from the red carpet 15, 20 years ago, or on Halloween, people will do this.

• 7:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is the most brilliant thing I've ever seen. Like, Meg Stalter just dominates a red carpet look, no matter, she's always doing a bit and she commits to the bit. And if I am, if I'm ever famous enough to be on these red carpets, I would do this. This is so funny.

• 8:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Who would you dress up as?

• 8:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Trolling slash tribute, like, I don't know, whoever was like, the most hot at the moment. Like, I love that it was just weeks prior. And I was reading something from the stylist. They did this in like, two weeks. The stylist said, I heard about this idea on Christmas Eve.

• 8:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, outfits were what, like six weeks ago?

• 8:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  It really took a minute to be like, they had to pull this together quick.

• 8:28Rayna Greenberg?

  When I think of like iconic couples outfits, the first thing that comes to mind is Britney and Justin.

• 8:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Denim.

• 8:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 8:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, someone did that recently, I thought. But this was incredible. Like, also, he's winning the award that night.

• 8:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 8:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Unbelievable. And they're so funny. And he's one of the creators of Hacks, Paul Downs.

• 8:49Rayna Greenberg?

  He's in Hacks.

• 8:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  And he's in it. But they're like a team in Hacks. They're like, you know, they're like a management team, but he's one of the creators. I just, I was obsessed.

• 8:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad we got the opportunity to talk about it because when, it was my whole feed when Kylie and Timo did this. And we didn't get to talk about it.

• 9:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  And lastly, the movie.

• 9:05Rayna Greenberg?

  We went and saw it on Christmas with your mom.

• 9:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 9:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Luisa tried to invite your dad. It was a real record scratch moment. I felt bad, so.

• 9:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I gotta tell you guys. So our friend Luisa came to Christmas this year at Ashley's family's house and you were on your way over to the house or something and I was having coffee with Luisa and your parents. And I was like, I checked the movie times and I asked your mom, like, is this a theater that we would go to? And do you want to come with us? And your mom said, yes. Your dad was sitting next to your mom. It never would have crossed my mind to invite him. I love him. I want to be around him all the time. But like Luisa goes, Lee, would you like to come with us? And he goes, what?

• 9:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Literally, like, first of all, my dad likes movies. Him and my mom saw that Song Sung Blue, whatever. By the way, I wanted to give their review. They loved it on New Year's Eve. Sing Song Blue, Song Sung Blue, something. So they loved it. So he does go to the movies. They usually go on New Year's Eve. But I have never been in a movie theater with my dad. Have you, Harley, have?

• 10:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, my parents were divorced and my dad actually took us.

• 10:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Would take you to the movies.

• 10:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Always, every weekend.

• 10:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think I've ever been. Like, I remember every Disney movie I saw, my dad was nowhere to be found.

• 10:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll tell you, the last movie I saw with my dad, because it is burned into my memory, is The Wolf of Wall Street. And it opens with him getting his dick sucked in the car. And I was like, I will never see another movie with him again.

• 10:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Were you in the theater or were you at home?

• 10:34Rayna Greenberg?

  We don't watch movies at home together. I don't even know.

• 10:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  You went to the theater and you saw Wolf of Wall Street on the big screen with your dad? No, I'd have to move another row. I would have to move seats.

• 10:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I wish I would have moved another row. The first, I went to Titanic with them too, with my brother and my dad. My brother must have been six and I think it was the first time we ever saw boobs. And he was mesmerized. And I was just like, I also will not sit with you for movies anymore.

• 10:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Titanic is horny too.

• 10:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Really horny. So anyways, she invited you. It's not even just that. I could, all five of us are going to get into the car together. What, I'm in a middle seat with your mom in the back?

• 11:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  So hilarious. So we got there and I will say, we were like a minute late and

• 11:16Rayna Greenberg?

  You were panicked.

• 11:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was panicked. Because there was not 30 minutes previews, there was 20. You had to get a Wawa sub, but like, whatever. We had to go to the theater. It was like 20 minutes away from my parents' house and The thought that I could have missed something and I like won't get it back and I won't know. And like, Raina, I'm telling you, the fact that we walked in that theater and it had started, I really started to panic. I started to Google what happens at the beginning of Marty Supreme, and I couldn't get service. And then the credits came on and I breathed a sigh of relief of like, we haven't missed much.

• 11:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so we waited a while for my rap for so long and I could feel the tension and I was like, let's just go. And I like almost left over the counter and they finally called my number and I was like, let's go. And then it was tense in the car.

• 11:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  My mom had said, we need to leave earlier than this. And we're like, whenever Cindy, there's 20, 30 minutes of previews. Yeah. And she was like, I'm gonna be chill. Anyway, um, we loved it until the very last scene. I don't often feel like completely engrossed and entertained for two and a half hours of anything. And I felt that way. I think the first half was stronger than the second half, but it was all over the place and I was entertained until then.

• 12:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I really felt entertained. This was like, I love a sports movie. Like, I love like, failure is not an option. Win at all costs. I'm gonna give up everything, do everything to like, reach this pinnacle. And that's the character. And it was so chaotic. And he just, you know, he's a different moral compass than the average person. I mean, he's just like very me centered. And all he wants to do is win. And like, he'll sleep with somebody's wife, he'll steal, his baby mama, he'll have an affair with somebody. That girl got shot in the car. He just dropped her off at the hospital and just left and went. And then this all, this is like a, you know, a failure is no option type movie and it ends, so I want to say spoiler if you guys haven't.

• 13:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, sorry, spoiler alert.

• 13:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Spoiler, if you haven't seen it, fast forward. Okay, I've given you enough time because that one time I ruined succession. I'll never forget it.

• 13:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  No one else will either.

• 13:12Rayna Greenberg?

  People were mad at me. And then it ends with him in the hospital having this baby and he's like, watching his baby and he's crying and it's the sense that like, he finally has this family that he never had before. But like, that's not the, I hate to be all like, serious about it, but that's not the character.

• 13:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like immediately I was like, what in the family building propaganda is this?

• 13:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, that's the first thing you said to me.

• 13:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  This propaganda.

• 13:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Did Big Baby make this?

• 13:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, just like, and. Whatever. Yes, we're child free by choice. We don't want kids. And I can appreciate a family moment. I think it's beautiful that you would see a child that you're bringing into the world, or the partner that you want to be with, and reframe how you view life. But it wasn't what we'd had from him up until that point. So it felt like a complete 180. And no, I wouldn't say we were, I don't know, he's kind of an anti-hero. You're sort of rooting for him, but not really. He's not a great guy. I didn't need that, like, about face at the end. And then I heard someone say, like, well, he was crying because he really was like, his career was over. I was like, ah.

• 14:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, I like that take. That's not, that's not the case, but I would love it if that was the take.

• 14:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 14:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I really just, I, I feel insulted as a viewer when you try to sell me a story that is different than the story you just sold me for two and a half hours. It's just, that's not the character. And I don't, I like the use of anti-hero. I mean, I don't have a problem rooting for somebody that I don't particularly think is a good person. Mad Men and The Sopranos are my favorite shows.

• 14:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 14:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Those are bad people, objectively bad people. I don't mind that. I just, the movie should have ended to me in Japan. He didn't need, like, they didn't, they didn't need to make this statement.

• 14:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I mean, but it's like, we aren't anti-family. Like, I don't know. It's like, it was a nice, and there was a growth, but it happened too immediate. And that's why I was like, this is propaganda. But I like that, this Esquire article is explaining and debating the very divisive ending of Marty Supreme. And these two editors debate the final moments of Josh Softy's new flick, who also, on Conch Jones. And I just like one quote from the, from Henry Wong at the very end. He's speaking to the other critic on what he had said prior, which you can kind of read between the lines. But he says, I like your read on Marty finally standing still, though I think that is my problem with the later stages of this film. I just wanted it to keep running and rutting. Also, him finally caring about someone else, I don't mind growth for a character, same. But I so enjoyed this rather unattractive

• 15:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  creation conveyed so attractively, that I thought his personality makeover at the very end was a little soppy. In the pantheon of great movie endings starring Chalamet, this was some way short of Call Me By Your Name. And he says, but for what it's worth, I think this, they had an alternate ending that they didn't have time to film. And it was going to, like, flash forward to a bunch of scenes later in his life. Anyway, it sounded horrible, what they, what they originally said they were gonna do. But that's how I felt. It just felt like a little lazy and unrealistic.

• 16:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 16:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I get it. I, I like, he cares about someone other than himself. I get it. And I can appreciate it. But And maybe it's just this like, I don't know, cynical morse side of me that was like, that's not who he is. And like, let's, this isn't who we've seen for the last two and a half hours.

• 16:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, we didn't need to, we just didn't need that last scene. I also, I didn't need to like, put a period on the end of that storyline of did she have the baby? Does he go back to claim the baby? I wasn't like, but what happened? Like, give me an end of the storyline of the orange ping pong balls.

• 16:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  The whole orange theme and the balls were in the movie for five seconds and they got thrown out the window. And literally that was the end of them.

• 16:35Rayna Greenberg?

  That's the end of it.

• 16:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I will say though, I think I always say, I, of course, I want a happy ish, I don't want to, I don't want a movie that completely ruins my life and leaves me feeling really upset. Fucking Manchester by the Sea, don't get me started. But like, that's just sad for the sake of being sad and whatever. But I just think people need a happy ending so badly. And like, this is such an American trait. And I've talked to you before about movies that they showed to test audiences. I think The Breakup is one of them, where people hated if it didn't end happily. And I think The Breakup was that one where they had to, they redid the ending to have them give people hope at the end. They run into each other on the street. It didn't originally end like that. That's just like one example I have. But I've always heard that like, Americans need a happy ending to like a movie. So they

• 17:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  like, couldn't have just ended it because people would have been like, where's the baby?

• 17:23Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, to me, him winning that tournament is the, the movie could have just ended.

• 17:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent.

• 17:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I wasn't like, but what about that girl? I don't care.

• 17:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent. Like when he falls to his knees, I think, right? At the end, when he's beaten that guy, the way that went down. And like, you want to see the real shit? Like, end it there? I would have been like, wow.

• 17:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, that's the end of the movie. And the baby's fine. You're supposed to think the baby's fine. He dropped it off at the hospital. It's fine. Fran Drescher is gonna go hang out with the baby.

• 17:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  But we really liked it. And it's been mixed reviews. I've seen a lot of bad reviews.

• 17:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I think people, a lot of people thought it was very chaotic. I didn't mind it. Like, I like these kind of like, I mean, um, Enora is one of my favorite movies. And that's just like a crazy chaos chase for half the movie. And it's my favorite thing.

• 18:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I just love watching him act. I loved that character. I think that's probably not that far from who he is in real life. That just really cocky energy. It was fun to watch.

• 18:20Rayna Greenberg?

  That's how you get Kylie Jenner.

• 18:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  So that is one of the movies that we saw. We went all the way off.

• 18:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I went even further.

• 18:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did.

• 18:29Rayna Greenberg?

  You saw three movies in like 10 days. I saw four.

• 18:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 18:32Rayna Greenberg?

  That's a lot.

• 18:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  So should we start, we should do chronological order. We did see The Housemaid the night that it came out.

• 18:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm always, I always have to preface it being like, I hate to be this person. The book was better, but like, I liked the movie. Amanda Seyfried was unbelievable. Brendan, Brendan Sklarnar, my, my lisp is acting up was fantastic. Sydney Sweeney, can we stop? Was, Jesus Christ. I mean, can we stop casting her in everything?

• 19:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Listen, you guys know I'm not a fan of hers and, you know, her politics and just, you know, who she is as a person. So this isn't that. I think she's such a bad actor and I, she's such a great actor in Euphoria. And that's the lane she has. I, it doesn't translate. It's like, it's the, the tone and that it's all, I, I really don't appreciate her as an actor. And this movie is so glaring because there's a lot of these parts that her and Amanda Seyfried are in the same scenario. So they have like the same emotions and things to act out. And you watch it done so differently and they're different people and they should be, they're different characters.

• 19:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I, the acting, you're just like, it really like holds a mirror up and I just don't find her to be a good actor. So that took away from the movie for me, but I really did like it. And I liked the book, but I didn't, the book is not the most brilliant book I've ever read either. So I didn't go into it like, I hope they don't ruin the book for me.

• 20:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's not that deep.

• 20:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's, but I, they changed one thing from the book. We'll just say this and spoil, you can just fast forward ahead, but it's not, there's a part in the book where Sydney Sweeney's character is kind of being tortured and they changed something in the movie and I don't know why they did it and it felt so unnecessarily gory.

• 20:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Like really violent and was done really well in the book. I don't know why they changed it.

• 20:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was, it felt like weirdly gratuitous. Like we were like shielding our eyes because of the blood and I didn't understand it. And then that made it a little unrealistic. Like what she was doing, you'd like you'd bleed out, you know, and it's in the book, it's fine. He kind of, tortures her in a different way. That's more palatable.

• 20:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 20:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we didn't get that choice. And then the ending is kind of different. The way he dies. I, I don't know. It was, um, I enjoyed it overall and it's like kind of campy. Like you laugh sometimes. Like I read a review that said, this is the perfect movie to see in a theater with like a bunch of people around and like, maybe the critic in this piece said they wouldn't have enjoyed it so much at home alone. It was fun to see in a theater.

• 21:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I prefer most movies in a theater. I just, I like it. We went with like seven girlfriends or something. It was like really fun. I like it. I would see it.

• 21:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. It was fun to see it with all people who hadn't read the book. So they didn't know what the fuck was coming. And like, I was sitting next to Louisa and I would just hear her go, what the fuck? And I'm like, that's exactly it. When you're reading that book, you're like, what the fuck?

• 21:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Would you rather be blissfully ignorant and not have read the book?

• 21:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think both are great experiences. You're just going to be so shocked, no matter what you do. And so I guess I'd prefer the reading experience, but I, how fun for them to be like, wait, what?

• 21:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I like going backwards a lot too. Like I watched Tell Me Lies and then I bought the book.

• 21:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I watched Heated Rivalry. Now I've bought the book. So I'm back.

• 21:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  You do do this a lot.

• 21:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. But I mean, if I really like something and I miss it, I miss Tell Me Lies like so deeply. I miss these characters. So I'm like, I gotta get the book.

• 22:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's how I was with normal people and I hated the book.

• 22:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. You told me that you hated it. And I, I read a couple of chapters and then I stopped.

• 22:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So then after that, you saw a movie at 9am.

• 22:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Jeremy and I went to see this movie called Rental Family. It's Brendan Fraser. He's an actor, like an aging actor in Tokyo and he goes to work for this company that, um, Simulates emotional experiences for people. So for example, this woman has an aging father who was once a very famous actor and he thinks the whole world is forgotten about him. And so she hires Brendan Fraser as a writer to write her father's life story so that her father can die feeling like he meant something to the world. And it's just, it's this beautiful story about like what humans need emotionally. I've never seen anything like it before. I didn't see this like heavily advertised, but it's just, it's beautiful. It's a great watch. If you guys even can just grab it on Amazon. It's really, really so good.

• 22:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I love that. And then we saw Is This Thing On?, which is Bradley Cooper directed, produced.

• 22:57Rayna Greenberg?

  He's in it.

• 22:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  And he's also in it. And Will Arnett and Laura Dern, and they're going through a separation. He starts doing stand-up comedy in New York and it takes place at the Comedy Cellar, which we've, it's like that, it is a Comedy Cellar, but it's not, I don't know. As comics, we saw it with Brittany too. We had some issues with the misrepresentation of the open mic scene anywhere, but that's fine. It's like a movie and that's what it is. The friendly, happy, just stage time of it all in New York. Yeah, haha. So anyway, there's some, but it's a movie. So I liked it. I thought it was a little slow. And if we're talking Bradley Cooper movies, it was more Silver Linings Playbook than A Star is Born. I didn't think it was going to be A Star is Born. I didn't think that he was

• 23:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  going to do stand-up and then turn into Dave Chappelle. I didn't expect that, but it was certainly more about the marriage than the stand-up.

• 23:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh. I thought there would be more stand-up.

• 23:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:52Rayna Greenberg?

  And it was more about the marriage, which I guess is probably more really, you and I want there to be more stand-up.

• 23:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:57Rayna Greenberg?

  But I think more people want relationship.

• 23:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was enjoyable.

• 24:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 24:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was a little slow.

• 24:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 24:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I wasn't like, oh God, you know.

• 24:05Rayna Greenberg?

  He just starts doing open mics at the most famous comedy club in the world and then they just pass him. It's so crazy. It's so crazy.

• 24:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 24:17Rayna Greenberg?

  People work their whole lives to get past the Comedy Cellar.

• 24:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's, it's, that part is so unrealistic. And again, this is just like us, like niche, like comic talk, like, but we were just like, oh, come on, you know, and he's laying down in the booth, the booker's there, we're like, oh, my God, he's, he's been on stage for four minutes in his life.

• 24:34Rayna Greenberg?

  One time I sat at the comics table at the Comedy Cellar, people were mad. And I'd never even done a live show yet. I wasn't even pretending to be a comedian.

• 24:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  You were just there with friends.

• 24:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I stopped in to say hi to Emma Willman, who had just been on our show. And I was just saying, but people did not like that.

• 24:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and it's, again, it's like, it's set at the Comedy Cellar, but I don't think it's, it's certainly, there's parts that are not accurate, but I love that it's set there. It's so cool.

• 24:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's really cool.

• 24:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, we loved Crashing, um, which was, I'm more realistic and bleak depiction of stand-up in New York. I mean, whatever, there's also highs, there are highs and lows, but this was, you know, it was good, you know? Bradley Cooper's character is a hot mess.

• 25:14Rayna Greenberg?

  He's funny.

• 25:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Very funny.

• 25:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Like real comedic relief there.

• 25:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's good.

• 25:18Rayna Greenberg?

  So those are the movies we're watching.

• 25:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Those are the movies. Okay, let's take a quick break and then we'll talk about the topic, Reina.

• 25:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank God.

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• 26:33Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 27:17Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 28:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, tons of other shows. You're going to have to take the first two.

• 28:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so Emily in Paris, she was in Rome for the first half of the season. This might have been my favorite season so far. I really enjoyed it. You know, everyone is just like, what is up with Ariza? Now she's working in Italy too? Like, what is going on?

• 28:32Rayna Greenberg?

  She's like, whatever I'm doing, I'm not coming back to America.

• 28:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she met this American guy, which I actually really liked. He used to be on, um, maybe One Tree Hill. I recognized him. And he works for the US Embassy. So I'm, keep him in your back pocket, girl. What is going on with, how are you still there?

• 28:47Rayna Greenberg?

  How's the show Emily in Paris when she's in Italy?

• 28:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I'm saying she's back in Paris, but she was working in Italy. Like, what is going on with your situation? Are you there legally?

• 28:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Does she work in fashion?

• 28:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, she's, god damn it, right?

• 28:57Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she works in fashion in my mind.

• 28:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, she is, she is fashion.

• 29:01Rayna Greenberg?

  She is fashion.

• 29:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  The outfits are part of why you watch. And they changed her aesthetic when she went to Rome, which I didn't, I like her in Paris better, her looks.

• 29:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Compare them.

• 29:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Personally, I don't know. It's just a lot more, a little more buttoned up, more prints. Yeah, I don't know how to describe it. It was just different. Parisian fashion versus Italian fashion. I'm not a fashion expert. I really enjoyed this season. The TLDR for me is just, we need fresh meat for Emily. I cannot do another season with Gabrielle. I just, I like him as a friend, not as a lover. Marcello, who she was with, they broke up. Thank God. He was like so boring, so mid. And then Alfie, who is the hottest man on the show and the spiciest and the sexiest and the most fun. He is, now has a thing going on with Mindy, like her best friend, which I love that. So as much as I love Alfie, I want him for Mindy and I want fresh meat for Emily. That's really my, my take.

• 29:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stranger Things, I'm not like a, we don't watch it. I watched the first season.

• 29:59Rayna Greenberg?

  We do.

• 29:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Shashank watched the finale and I was there in and out of sleep. I was like, it was New Year's Day. So I did catch the end of it and I got a little emotional from someone who's just watched the, I, you know, cause Mike and 11, Millie Bobby Brown, like I still could appreciate the ending and I was crying.

• 30:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  And anyway, all these conspiracy theories that the show is not over. So everyone is saying there's more. I can see a world in which they make a movie. Why wouldn't they? It's such a successful franchise. As we record, this will be over, but people were saying something was gonna happen on the 7th. So that will have been yesterday, like, and the Duffer Brothers are like, we're done, you guys. This is it. Like, and there's so many, there's like, Shoshonka's in these TikTok holes of like, what's coming next? Like, it's not really over and she's still alive and Mike was right. I don't know, there's all these theories. So anyway, it's just really taken over the internet, these fan theories and we'll see.

• 30:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Watch the space.

• 30:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, watch the space. Okay, Raina, it's just literally like about to slide off our seat.

• 31:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I care so much. I, this show like did something to me and I actually like, Tarbiyan, I, I sort of avoided the show. Not, everybody's just like, it's this gay hockey show. And I kind of was like, I don't care about this sports show.

• 31:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I say, we had so many people in our DMs telling us to watch this and I trust you guys. Like, I wasn't avoiding it. I, I was just like, I'm gonna watch it because I really trust you guys and you know us and you know what we like. And I don't think I've ever gotten more DMs and like, when the fuck are you girls gonna watch this?

• 31:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 31:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  So anyway.

• 31:36Rayna Greenberg?

  The most.

• 31:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  We did.

• 31:38Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, um, it's six episodes, it's based on a book series. Um, it is about these two guys who meet their rookie season and they carry on this sort of gay love affair. And I don't know that I was so hooked to episodes and I, I don't think I realized, I mean, I just was like, these are these two guys that are having sex. Like, I just thought it was gonna continue to just be like really pornographic, which I loved.

• 31:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was horny or the first two episodes and I watched them and took a break. I didn't feel so compelled to turn it back on. Then you told me you have to get back into it. And then Shashank sent me a puberty meme or something that said that episode five was the highest rated TV episode in history or something. And so I was like, we gotta get into this. And then someone else was like, just FYI, the third episode is about a different couple. And I was like, oh, whatever. And then I loved it more than anything. And I'm obsessed with that storyline. I'm like a Scott Hunter stan. Like, that is the hottest man alive.

• 32:34Rayna Greenberg?

  You were like, I don't want it to go back to their couple. I was like, I couldn't wait for it to go back to the other couple.

• 32:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so this is like so more Raina's friend or more Ashley's friend. I love the show completely, and we'll talk about it. But when they brought in the Scott Hunter storyline, partially because he's the hottest man alive, and in our household, we both agree. Shashank was like, don't look at that guy. But something about that with, it just felt more relatable. They weren't pro athletes, like on the ice. Like, they met in a smoothie shop and the flirting. Like, I was just like, oh my, I was just like obsessing over their every interaction. It's so, like, you were just like, give me the-

• 33:11Rayna Greenberg?

  That's because you like a secure attachment style, okay? That's because they met and they fell in love and you knew they were just gonna end up together. And these other guys made you wait six episodes to see if they were gonna be together.

• 33:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But they didn't. It was really heartbreaking. And you could feel him being like, I want to be out, but I can't. And I don't think I can. And there was this heartbreak. And, okay, anyway, I have more to say about like, why we, as straight women, love this so much. But-

• 33:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, I think that's the most think pieces I've read is just like, yes, it made me so horny. That didn't surprise me, by the way. I've always liked gay male porn. I don't, that's not a shock to me. Like, probably my least favorite porn is straight porn, because I've always said it just doesn't, it doesn't ever look that pleasurable to the woman, to me. Like, I always just see these women getting like, jackhammered in in straight male on female porn. And it's just not really my favorite porn. So I've always liked gay porn of two women, two men, whatever. But it really turns into this like unbelievable love story and it makes you really think about how many people in the world are really like can't come out and they have to live a life like

• 34:18Rayna Greenberg?

  this and they really like fought against this for so many years and I didn't even think this is like a will they won't they I don't know I really even like thought I just I loved watching the dynamic of both of them kind of like fight back against who they were and are they gonna be together and that episode five and six are two of my favorite episodes of television of in the anything I've ever watched because you do the first couple of episodes it is just a lot of sex you really see like their actual like romantic love story

• 34:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's like even the end of episode two, he's a dick to him. It made me feel sad.

• 34:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, and I thought that dynamic was gonna continue.

• 34:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I will say I guess the thing I couldn't really get a handle on was like were they just like they would hook up casually every season like it went really fast it moved really fast and it was like you'd see them texting and flirting but I'm like but are they fucking I couldn't seem to keep up like there was this one from like 2008 to 2017 so every season were we supposed to assume that they just like hook up a couple times?

• 35:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 35:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and then they flirt and stuff like that.

• 35:18Rayna Greenberg?

  That's it.

• 35:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like I feel like I couldn't really get get a handle on it.

• 35:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Ilya is supposed to be he's bisexual, he's with women, he's with that girl's vet lawn on and off for years and then Shane just seems to be like only focused on work.

• 35:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 35:31Rayna Greenberg?

  He's just like really solid relationship with his parents but like sort of out in terms of being in a relationship at all.

• 35:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I loved all of it. Again, I just the first two episodes were the weakest for me and then it was just a rocket ship like we couldn't stop. We we watched all four hours last night straight and then you get into Shane having a relationship with this famous actress and then the jealousy and I think Ilya's family dynamic is one of the most fascinating pieces of it all and I think a lot of people had the same collective thought maybe especially after watching the first or second episode of like okay how many pro athletes are in the closet? And then episode three they're like all of them.

• 36:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Everyone.

• 36:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  All of them, like the whole Scott Hunter storyline.

• 36:15Rayna Greenberg?

  It goes all the way up to the top.

• 36:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's they're just statistically all the men that play in the pro sports world, all of the sports like how many are in the closet so many just statistically just by like I guess tech you could think of more like Sports as being more masculine, therefore being more straight, if you want to make that connection, but I don't necessarily think that. And I guess like, if there's a thousand men, a thousand men that play sports, maybe may skew a little more straight. But I'm just saying statistically, how many pro athletes are in the closet and like having these types of situations. And then the moment when Scott Hunter came out, right? I was like jumping up and down. Like, I was like, if he comes out right now and he brings him down on the ice, it's going to feel so unrealistic. And it's, I'm not going to like it. And then

• 37:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  it just worked. It was perfect. And then he was like, giving a speech about it. He's this amazing speaker. Like, I literally was like, this moment.

• 37:07Rayna Greenberg?

  That's the second book. You should buy the book. It's the whole second book is their love story.

• 37:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm not like you right now. This, I love the show and I don't need to read the book. This is my normal people. Literally, I'm gonna, this is where I stop. It ends with the show.

• 37:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I do wonder, I mean, you could say there's this population of people and X percentage of any amount of people is gay, but I do think some people who are homosexual have weeded themselves out of the sports world because they don't want to live like this. And they don't want to, they don't want to go all the way to the top pretending that they are something that they're not. So I do think that there's a portion of people that just sort of weed themselves out of these environments because it feels toxic and not natural to them.

• 37:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you're supposed to, like, again, this is, this is just culturally, societally. I think these men worry, like, I'm supposed to put off a different type of image and what, now I've got people trash talking me on the field or on the court about me being gay. Like, I think there's like a whole thing of like, I can't possibly come out. And so I think this moment, I think the best moment of the show is when Scott Hunter comes out and he says, I'm coming to the cottage, right? I mean, it's just like, you feel that they're like-

• 38:07Rayna Greenberg?

  That's not my favorite moment. Okay.

• 38:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just was like, it, I don't know.

• 38:12Rayna Greenberg?

  When he says, I'm coming to the cottage, and the episode ends. And it's just, my favorite moment of the show is when Shane says, why don't you tell me how you feel in Russian? And he gives that speech and he's just like alone in the winter outside and his father has died. And he's just like, everybody hates me. I've paid for everything. I, I can't tell anybody who I am. Like, the worst part is, I just like, want you. It's always been you and I love you.

• 38:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God, stop.

• 38:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I watched it over and over. It's so-

• 38:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're so right.

• 38:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Beautiful. It's just this person fighting so hard against what he wants. Like, I can't imagine a feeling like that. I think about it all the time. I think about, all the time. I think about what it would feel like every day to pretend that I wanted to date women. Every single day that I I had to fight again, like, listen, I think women are beautiful. I've slept with women. I don't feel romantically inclined to date women. And if that was the social norm and I had to do that every day, I mean, mentally, I'd be more stable, probably.

• 39:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I I just, I can't imagine every day fighting against it and, you know, to live in Russia and to be, you know, you'll be, you could be punished, imprisoned, you know, it just, God, it was so beautiful.

• 39:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. Like, I truly was like, I don't know, I'm more into this other storyline. And then I totally like changed my tune and I loved all of it. And, you know, like, like Rain and I were saying, there's a lot of straight women that love this so much. And one of our friends told us, she was like, I've watched this twice and I don't really watch TV. And I was like, I'd only seen the first two episodes. And I'm like, okay, she's just shelves gay porn. And now I get it. And I, so many women have said this. And there's different parts of it. Of course, being turned on by it is one thing. And there's this escapism. But I think that's like, the type of men that this is like a super masculine men. Like, if you're a straight woman, and you like masculinity, which I do, you're like, this

• 40:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  is not what I'm used to seeing gay men depicted as typically in the media. I know there's been a few different movies, and I never watched Brokeback Mountain, for an example. So I guess that's kind of what that is. I can't really speak on it. So, but I think we're not used to seeing men that read straight, that read masculine, that, I don't know if that's part of it. Like, am I so into that Scott Hunter storyline because I'm so attracted to him? And so I'm like, I just like watching this, even though it's not straight?

• 40:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I think there's so many theories about it. I watched, I think it was a TikTok, I'm sure it was, I'm sure it wasn't an article that I read. This girl was talking about how like, women don't have to watch themselves be depicted in a show, and how nice is it to not be like,

• 40:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Escapism.

• 40:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, the escapism of it that like, I think sometimes we over relate to characters and we think about situations that we've been in, where we've been treated poorly and somebody has ghosted us or strung us along and like, I'm not a part of this storyline. The women are all side characters. There's only two real women in this story and it's, it's the women that the two men came out to. It's that Lana for Ilya and Rose, the actress for Shane. But like, women aren't really in this. And so like, you don't have to watch a woman get treated like shit and strung along and it's just like, we're not a part of it.

• 41:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love that take. It's so true. Like, you're like, this is relatable. We all text and sext and get ghosted and feel bad and fall for people, but like, it's none of our business. Like, this is the boys doing this and you get to just watch from the sidelines. That's really interesting.

• 41:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I wish I'd come up with it originally.

• 41:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I want to talk about straight men watching this.

• 41:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 41:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, by the way, the creator, Jacob Tierney, is like a director, showrunner for two shows that are Shoshon's favorite shows, Letter Kenny and Shorzy. These are Canadian shows.

• 41:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah, because this show was a Canadian show.

• 41:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  And those are hockey shows, by the way. So, he, he knew it was a gay show, but he kept joking, this is like the spinoff of Letter Kenny. So, he was like, I'm interested in it because of that. I love Jacob Tierney and I want, I want to watch this. And he's not like, he's not turned on and he's not super into the love scenes. Like, he's a super straight guy. He's, he, he's not like, ooh, bleh. And he's like turning away, but he's not really into them. But he loved this show so much. Who wouldn't?

• 42:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I wish, I just, I didn't know. I, I do think an evolved, secure man can watch a man suck another man's dick. And by the way, you never see a penis in this whole show, to my chagrin.

• 42:24Rayna Greenberg?

  It's pretty upsetting, but like, it's implied oral and implied anal, but like, you don't actually see any body parts at all.

• 42:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, yeah, I had this, I said to him, I'm like, A man, a straight man watching this is a real indicator of how secure he is in himself and in his masculinity and in his sexuality. I don't mean to say that a man that wouldn't like this is insecure, though. Like, I don't know, I don't think my brother would be into this. And I think that's like the most secure person. Like, I don't know, I just, I'm thinking of different guys and like, would they like this and appreciate this? Andrew Collin and Brenna were watching it. Andrew Collin is the most, this is who I am, secure dude.

• 43:05Rayna Greenberg?

  She said they were both hard.

• 43:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So I've just, at first I was like, if you can't handle this as a man, you're insecure. And I don't actually think that. Like, I just think it wouldn't be for everybody.

• 43:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I don't think it would be for everybody. It's a lot of hypersexuality.

• 43:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 43:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought I was gonna learn one thing about hockey. I did not. Did you learn one thing about hockey?

• 43:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, like, literally.

• 43:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Not at all.

• 43:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  At the very end, I asked, I don't know anything about hockey. I was like, okay, so is hockey like, is there like, one main star player, like a Jalen Hurts? And, or is it like, kind of the whole team? And, like, I was asking the dumbest fucking questions. Like, I don't know any, like, I don't know ball.

• 43:38Rayna Greenberg?

  But I don't, like, I grew up in Pittsburgh, it's a big hockey town. We have Merrill Lemieux, who was like, one of the most famous hockey players of all time. And that is the only hockey player I can name. Like, I thought maybe this show would do for hockey what, like, Taylor Swift did for football. But like, I'm not gonna start watching, I didn't learn one thing about hockey.

• 43:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I never learned anything. I watched the whole season of Stick. I still don't know one thing about golf. I don't know ball. But I do think hockey is the most insane sport. You're ice skating with sticks, and you have to get a puck into a net, and there's someone guarding the net. I'm sorry, like, as someone who, like, can barely ice skate, it's the wildest sport. Like, it is, it looks like the hardest sport to me.

• 44:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you been watching these videos? I'm not whole, I don't get served anything besides heated rivalry TikToks. Now they're doing all these, like, um, video roundups of like, them acting sexual on the ice, and just how they stretch on the ice, and they're like, humping the ice. It's so sexual looking.

• 44:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  It really is. Like, who knew with all those pads, it could still be horny?

• 44:37Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I'm so horny for the show.

• 44:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I have one missed moment. One thing I would have liked to see that would have just completely gutted me, in the best way. I would have loved to see at the very end, I'm not gonna say it ended abruptly, but a little bit. All of a sudden, I was like, oh, it's over. I would have loved to see Shane's mom hug Ilya. Because A, she hated him too. That was like her son's rival and she was such a hockey mom. But B, because of him losing his mom and have just like not having that type of family. So again, this is almost contradictory to me needing the happy ending and stuff with like the family. But I would have loved that because he like clearly doesn't have a real family. And I would have just liked to see at the end, they're just like, thanks for the pasta.

• 45:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  And they have this nice moment and the family's coming over to see them later. And they're like, you make sure to text because we'd be fucking, you know? But I don't know. I think I would have liked to see the mom hug Ilya.

• 45:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that would have been a nice moment.

• 45:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, thanks.

• 45:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Ilya is just my favorite. He's so funny. By the way, he, I think he's from, where's he from? I mean, he's from America. I think he's from Texas. I may have made that up, but he does not.

• 45:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Connor's story, he's not Russian, like the accent.

• 45:44Rayna Greenberg?

  No, he learned Russian from the movie.

• 45:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Unbelievable.

• 45:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Unbelievable. He's so funny. I'm not blushing. Russians don't do that.

• 45:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rena, like there was a part where I was like, I love this show, but the dialogue of all they do is he calls him boring and he calls him an asshole. It's, I think boring and asshole must be a hundred times an episode.

• 46:04Rayna Greenberg?

  It's my favorite. He's like, do you get your looks from your mom and you're boring from your dad? I mean, I can't get enough of him. I just, I watch like roundups of him just saying stuff on this show.

• 46:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's hilarious. He's a hilarious character.

• 46:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been watching people do stuffed animals with like the voices. Have I sent you one of these?

• 46:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 46:18Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, it's the whole thing and the, um, will you come to my cottage this time? All of these like little stuffed animals acting it out.

• 46:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  When he says that he's in the hospital bed?

• 46:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 46:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, that's what people were saying? Because he's like all drugged up?

• 46:29Rayna Greenberg?

  He's all drugged up and they have like an octopus and a bear acting it out together. And it just goes back and forth. I mean, you guys gotta get into this content. It's my favorite.

• 46:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  The way I was feeling, I know this, you can't relate to this, but the way I was feeling during episode three, I was like holding Shoshak's hand. Like I just, I've never been so engrossed. Like I'm so obsessed with these people and like where their stories are gonna end.

• 46:56Rayna Greenberg?

  See, episode three, I was like, can we get back? Can we get out of this? I'm so bored of this.

• 47:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  But the way, so you, like you said, I think you, did you say this earlier?

• 47:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Last night I texted you, they're gonna tie this in beautifully.

• 47:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's a different book, maybe you said that a few minutes ago. So it's a different book and the way they tied this in with him coming out and then it's like giving them permission to be more open with their sexuality.

• 47:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm coming to the cottage. I mean, it's ama- it was amazing. It's just, I can't get enough of the show. I watched it twice. I'll probably watch it a third time. I can't, I can't, I, this is the most I've masturbated to a show.

• 47:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so you are masturbating.

• 47:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Hell, yeah. Well, I'm alone watching it. I masturbate to this more than Hunting Wives.

• 47:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really?

• 47:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  This, I think this is like a big reveal, that how much you love gay porn.

• 47:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I'm not, it's not my first porn category. I'm not looking for it, but like, I didn't, I didn't realize how much I liked it.

• 47:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, do you want to talk about what you don't like?

• 47:54Rayna Greenberg?

  This was so funny, because I hope nobody gets offended by this. I don't think they will. When I, I, I watched a lot of gay porn in this show. Like, a lot of guys like blow each other, a lot. And in episode three, when Scott picks up the smoothie guy and he's carrying them, carrying him across the room. And I took a photo of him and I was like, Ashley, this is so much gayer than watching two guys blow each other. And you were like, absolutely. And then I was talking to Brenna yesterday and she was like, do you feel like when he picked him up and carried him across the room? She literally, she said the same line, it's gayer than watching them suck each other's dicks. And I was like, it did feel gayer.

• 48:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Here's the thing, we do not want to see men getting picked up. Like, I've seen stuff of women picking men up and I can't like handle, I have like a visceral reaction, like, there's something about it. It's, of course, we support the homoeroticism of it all, like, we love the dick sucking, like, we love the anal, all the things, like, we're down with that. But there's something about picking a man up and putting him on the counter. I can't.

• 48:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I love watching them pal around, make fun of each other, obviously have sex, but like, there's this other scene where like Shane goes to Ilya's room and he's like, you feel it too? I know you feel it. And then Ilya's talking about his father dying, I think? And Shane mounts him and is like hugging.

• 49:13Rayna Greenberg?

  And I'm like, act like a football captain.

• 49:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's these, there are.

• 49:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Hockey. I'm like, just act like you're the captain of this team. Okay. The way you're moving is, that's how I hang on people.

• 49:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like I wa- to watch it with, like for me to watch it with my husband, like there was moments where we were like,

• 49:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  like I would look over at him and he would just be like, like it's, it hits different than the, than the anal.

• 49:35Rayna Greenberg?

  It just does. It's so, you're just, I think it's jarring. I think you, we can see men hooking up. I'm not phased by it, but something about them being picked up like that and being just on their lap, like straddling. I just, it's, it's just jarring and we're just getting used to it and we're not judging and I, you know, the next season we'll be fine with it. I had to be like, this is how I show love. Like when someone that I am romantically involved with is like, I'm sad. Obviously I would like straddle their lap, hug them. Like I was like, this is how people show love. It's just these big masculine men doing it. It's so, it's, it takes a minute to get used to.

• 50:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  We loved it. And I was talking with a friend of mine and I guess they're reading it for book club, but they're, they're like, we're talking more about the show. And she said, we're, we had like all night last night discussing why hetero women love it. And we talked, and I was like, what's your takeaway? And she said the same thing. She said, one, we don't see ourselves in the relationship. So it's free of the traditional gender roles, expectations, and also refreshing, hopeful to see a man be a good communicator, be honest, et cetera. Like you can watch it freely without putting yourself in the situation. And obviously the sex is hot. And that's what we said. That's so it.

• 50:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 50:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think that is. Put our finger on it.

• 50:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I, you just don't really see these type of relationships represented in mainstream culture. There's not a lot of like gay male relationships like this. And so many straight men watching it. It really has just like pushed past just the barriers. Like I guess, what do I try to, everybody's watching this.

• 51:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And I love that about it. And I had this feeling of like, What if you like, think this is bad? You know, like, what are like, the homophobic evangelical Christian MAGA's? Like, they can't, they think this is like, a sin, or this is bad, or this is against God, and it's like, they can't enjoy this shit? Like, imagine being those people. Imagine being like, I can't watch this. Yeah, like,

• 51:26Rayna Greenberg?

  She's not at home watching.

• 51:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you know, the, that they're undercover watching. I mean, you know, I think that most homophobic people are in the closet. So, it's just like, how many of these anti-gay warriors are secretly watching this?

• 51:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Salja doth protest too much.

• 51:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay, so, we will move on from it, and we'll talk about something that like, really has been in the news, that we find really interesting, and it is Ashley Tisdale. She says she broke up with her toxic mom group. So, she wrote an article for The Cut, that's, I saw something that's called it scathing. It wasn't really scathing, it was just her personal experience with struggling being a new mom, and finding this group of women, and then starting to feel excluded and having to cut ties.

• 52:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't think it was scathing at all. I think that's interesting, somebody who called that. It's just, I thought I found my village, and said I was back in high school. And when I saw her face associated with this article, it was shocking to me, because you don't see, like, huge celebrities write these type of, like, op-eds, essentially, like, about, like, yeah. And it never occurred to me that these would be like, other celebrity moms. Because I was like, who are these people?

• 52:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, of course it is, right? Like, that was my, yeah, like, I actually don't even, would she have done it if they were just normal people? That might have felt a little like punching down, or something? Like, I don't know, do you feel, do you feel like she felt more empowered to do it? Because these are also famous women, even though she didn't name them by name?

• 52:53Rayna Greenberg?

  That's an interesting take. I mean, I, I never, at first, I just, first of all, it's, to your point, it's not scathing. And she just said, I started to feel left out, they were making plans without me, and they were on other group texts without me, and that was it. I felt excluded. That, that everybody was so terrible to me. And she was like, maybe, she was like, I'm not calling these women bad people. One person might have been, but the rest of them just excluded me. I guess I just was like, you're, you are right. I didn't really think about it as being celebrities, but like, of course it isn't. Of course, like, she grew up with all these celebrities.

• 53:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 53:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody in this mom group, it was so for you guys, it's Hilary Duff, Mandy Moore, Sammy Ryan, who's one of the Oppenheimer brothers, ex-girlfriends, and there was one other, oh, Meghan Trainor.

• 53:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, um, it sent a chill down my spine, like, feeling that feeling, which, you know, she likens it to feeling like she's back in high school. And like, I just was reading it. And anytime you read these things, luckily, I don't experience them in my adult life. I don't have those feelings. I mean, I think every once in a while, you have some FOMO, or why wasn't I invited? I think that's like totally human. And, but like, when it's all you think, all your friend group is hanging out without you, and they're purposely excluding you, that feeling is like, I just remember that feeling in middle school and high school. And I mean, it just sends a chill down my spine. Like, you're brought right back to that. And that's what she says. She's like, I'm not, didn't sign up for this, to feel like this, like, I'm back in those adolescent years.

• 54:19Rayna Greenberg?

  You just, celebrities seem like they're in this, like, microcosm where they're like otherworldly, and they don't see, they don't feel the same things that, like, muggles feel. And it's like, you don't see them admit to just having the same feelings that everybody feels. But of course, like, everybody that becomes a new mother, no matter how famous or rich you are, feels the same things. You probably feel even more isolated, because you can't have these regular mom groups. Like,

• 54:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 54:42Rayna Greenberg?

  You do need somebody that's kind of famous to be around you.

• 54:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, on your level.

• 54:45Rayna Greenberg?

  And, like, this would be double the amount of isolation of, like, a regular mom. Of course, they feel these things. I just, like, forgot that celebrities have, like, real feelings like this.

• 54:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And I mean, I wonder what the rest of the group would say. Like, if someone did a rebuttal, would it be like, she's annoying?

• 55:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I do think it would be that. Like, I don't have to like everybody.

• 55:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I'm just kidding. I want to root for Ashley Tisdale, because people say I look like her. Do you think Ashley Tisdale and Hilary Duff are the Ashley and Raina of their time?

• 55:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, everybody thinks that. Everybody says I look like Hilary Duff.

• 55:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I literally am saying. That's us. No, I get that a lot. And you get the, so, those are us. So, we have a personal tie to them. But, you know, dare I say it's giving mom talk?

• 55:27Rayna Greenberg?

  How long are you sitting on this one?

• 55:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Next, we were gonna do this this week, but I'm gonna do a Mormon wives breakdown next week, cuz I've been watching it. And I'll be farther along. I may have finished it.

• 55:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Now the show's not on.

• 55:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I begged you for, begged you for years.

• 55:42Rayna Greenberg?

  But yeah, I don't know. I think this was so shocking cuz you don't see celebrities ever give opinions like this. And it's very easy to figure out who she's talking about cuz there's all these photos of them together. And she's calling out pretty big celebrities. Like, I don't know, all these people can give her rebuttal.

• 55:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, she said, like, has she kind of, she hasn't walked it back, but she's said, like, it's not about them. She actually, that's, people were saying was, people, of course, started their fanfiction like they always do, and they said it was about politics, and she said it's not. She's, people were saying she was MAGA. She's like, I'm a registered Democrat, like, whatever. But she said something like, this wasn't it. Basically, I think her response has been like, this wasn't like, meant to be a hit piece, and like, you guys are wrong, kind of thing. Like, I think, again, she's trying to cover her tracks a little bit. It's just tough. Like, she probably just really had such a strong emotional experience that she, like, wanted to share. And, like, I guess, again, it's mom talk. Like, you, you're too famous to do that. People will figure out who it's about.

• 56:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Mom talk could act a little crazier first season. I mean, mom, mom talk, the best thing about that show is you know exactly who's doing what. And they're in the offseason acting crazy, too. And

• 56:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not the offseason.

• 56:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, you just don't, you don't see this very often. And it was very shocking. And I do think it probably just boils down to, like, not everybody's gonna like everybody.

• 56:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And it just, I feel for her. And, you know, I'm on her side as a fellow Ashley. She's also a Cancer. And so, I just could, could feel that. I think we could all feel that. And I think it just, like, hurts anyone that goes through that. There was a book I read that this happened. It was called The Friendship Breakup. And I, I enjoyed that book, if you guys are looking for more content about this. But I just think it's good to put this content out there. And so people can know this happens to the best of us.

• 57:26Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, it made me sad. She said that, like, she found out that all these moms had, like, hung out together, and they had, like, planned this whole get together at her, like, daughter's birthday party.

• 57:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  They had planned it at her, yeah, I know. And I just, motherhood is so tough, and it can be so isolating. And you need people going through the same Shit as you, you need mom friends with kids that are same age. If you have a kid that's special needs, you need mom friends that are going through that as well. Like you need that community. So when you find them and then it doesn't work out, I mean, the heartbreak is so much deeper than a friend group that we would make, you know?

• 58:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Who do you think like the queen bee is?

• 58:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's Hillary.

• 58:07Rayna Greenberg?

  It's definitely Hillary, right?

• 58:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not Meghan Trainor.

• 58:13Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 58:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  We've heard she's nice.

• 58:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, there's this food blogger in it. Um, I think something with Gabby, G A B I. I like her content. Um, it's not her. She's not the mean one. Many more. I just don't think, I think she's too tired to be the mean one.

• 58:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, is there gonna be a rebuttal? Like, I don't know. I'm.

• 58:28Rayna Greenberg?

  People are saying Sammy Ryan. So do you recognize her? She was the one that was dating one of the little Oppenheimer brothers. She's like floor to ceiling tattoos. She's really interesting to look at. She's beautiful, but um, covered in tattoos. And people say that she dropped this like Meghan the Stallion, like voiceover, this is the energy I'm bringing in 2026. Like, I don't give a fuck.

• 58:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 58:48Rayna Greenberg?

  People say it's a response to this.

• 58:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  To this. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. So um, watch the space. We'll continue to report on this. Okay. We're just gonna end with a few headlines and send you guys on your way. Alex Earl and Tom Brady. I mean, this shook me. They were spotted on New Year's Eve. And I mean, why not? Why not? Why? I say it shook me because I'm just like, the two hottest people, like she just broke up with a more no name football player. She's gonna upgrade. She's on a like rocket ship to fame. Why not?

• 59:22Rayna Greenberg?

  It's interesting to me because you were like, this is like a masterclass to like putting your ex in his place. I mean, she admittedly like, they didn't have some terrible breakup. Nobody cheated. She was just like, you know, basically it didn't work out essentially. But like, I can't even compare this to anything. I was trying to think of an analogy for myself. Like if my man and I broke up, like, who would that be to me? Like, I guess it's like Alex Cooper. But like, it's not even comparable. Like, you're talking about the most famous athlete that has ever existed in the history of time. He's more famous than LeBron? Like, this is the most famous athlete alive. Men would kill themselves just to suck Tom Brady's dick.

• 59:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:00:00Rayna Greenberg?

  There's nobody alive that like, there's still, like, if my man dated Alex Cooper, some people would still be like, who? But like, if your ex dated Tom Brady, like not one person alive would be like, who?

• 1:00:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. Yeah, exactly. That's not a dig. It's just literally is a household name as an athlete. There's like five. He's like literally like a Michael Jordan.

• 1:00:19Rayna Greenberg?

  It's that, I mean, it's crazy to watch it.

• 1:00:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is so crazy. I mean, she's just, she's so hot right now. And like I, people were saying, like, she's gonna upgrade. And that's not a dig to Braxton or whatever. It's just like, she's gonna go more famous. She's gonna go bigger. And, you know, I am an Alex Earl supporter. And like, I was seeing headlines and they were calling like a TikTok dancer. I'm like, okay, she's so much more than that. And I just think she's gonna be so famous. And like, I love this.

• 1:00:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't, I was trying to like, like, your greatest hero, the person that you grew up with, like, emulated in your entire life. Like, I pick Alice Cooper because she's the top of her game. She's amazing. But I didn't grow up, I didn't know that was because she's 10 years younger than me.

• 1:00:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. Right. You're, that's your, your whole life. You've looked it up to them. So, um, sending, sending love to Braxton and good luck. And we'll continuing developing story.

• 1:01:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she's too spicy for Tom Brady.

• 1:01:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, Tom Brady's a full robot.

• 1:01:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, watching her rub his back and he just kind of stands there just frozen.

• 1:01:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  The back rub was tough, but he is a full robot.

• 1:01:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think he's a real person.

• 1:01:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, you can't be. How could you be at that level and be a regular person?

• 1:01:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Watching him talk, like, that's not a person.

• 1:01:30Rayna Greenberg?

  No, it's crazy.

• 1:01:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's a, like,

• 1:01:32Rayna Greenberg?

  A simulation.

• 1:01:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's a Tesla robot. Okay. And Zach Bryan gets married to a woman that looks exactly like his ex, Brianna Chicken Fry.

• 1:01:42Rayna Greenberg?

  It's pretty shocking. I mean, gun to my head, that's the same person.

• 1:01:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I was telling you, like, I think a lot of women can look alike. You know, a lot of people, they've, they have the same face. They do the same makeup. They have the same hair. They have the same body. They've had the same work done. These women look so much alike. I haven't seen this.

• 1:02:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Would you like it or not like it?

• 1:02:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I would eat this up, but I want them to be a little less pretty.

• 1:02:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, she's, I think Brianna Chicken Fry is so beautiful.

• 1:02:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're both beautiful.

• 1:02:11Rayna Greenberg?

  These girls are both really beautiful.

• 1:02:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I would live for this if my ex went after like a slightly less attractive look alike of me. I'm obsessed with that. That kind of did happen.

• 1:02:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Your ex went after a slightly less attractive look alike of me.

• 1:02:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  You.

• 1:02:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody kept telling me how much she looked like me. I was like, you're really hurting my feelings. Stop. No, I'm sure she's, I'm sure she's great.

• 1:02:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  So yeah, I mean, we were not, we were never fans of Zach Bryan, but then he put that song out that was like dragging ice. And so people have turned a corner on him. So I'm neutral on him now. Now that I know about his politics.

• 1:02:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I was always a fan of his music. And then she came out with this and I was like, I don't need to spend my time and my money on this person.

• 1:02:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's got his back. If he's gonna stand up against what's happening in the world.

• 1:02:57Rayna Greenberg?

  And then lastly, New York City retired the MetroCard. I mean, this was such a staple of my life, my purse, my wallet. I was digging around in like old boxes to see if I could find one. And I had said to Jeremy, and I was in New York a couple of weeks ago, I gotta buy one from the machines and I forgot. And now we're seeing that people are selling them for like $10,000.

• 1:03:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  They retired them to, to do what? Cause you can just like tap to pay?

• 1:03:22Rayna Greenberg?

  So I haven't actually used a physical MetroCard in years because you tap to pay now.

• 1:03:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So I know I have to have one and I'm gonna dig around too. You, like since they retired it, you've been looking, trying to find one?

• 1:03:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I have to have it in like memory boxes somewhere, but I don't know why I would because I probably was like, when they switched to tap to pay, I was like, I don't need these anymore.

• 1:03:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, I, I have to have one somewhere. I mean, I, I've had them in my life. I mean, when I first moved there, I did like a monthly, whatever the fuck, I would load it up, you know? So I've got to have, when I find that, oh my God, if I find it like in my home, it's gonna be like jackpot.

• 1:03:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll be so sad.

• 1:03:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a relic now.

• 1:03:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, they're so, I just, I don't know, I love them.

• 1:03:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Lecter's item, a fucking MetroCard. You know, you know who has one? I know they do. Rob Bolin.

• 1:04:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I knew you were gonna say Rob. Of course he does.

• 1:04:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  He loves a MetroCard.

• 1:04:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like every New Yorker, they used to just be like scattered throughout my house, but when I moved from New York to LA.

• 1:04:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 1:04:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And I don't take the subway that much in New York. If it's under like, if it's under like two miles, I will walk in New York. I don't really take the subway that much.

• 1:04:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally. I think I know where one is. I'll be so jealous.

• 1:04:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I have to cancel the afternoon. I have to go home and see if I'm right.

• 1:04:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll tell Emily.

• 1:04:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I will lose my fucking mind. I might film this.

• 1:04:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm like, God, you're meant to live in New York so bad.

• 1:04:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you love nostalgia more than I do. You would be more likely to save stuff than I would.

• 1:04:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. So anyway, hold on to those or sell them on the black market, I guess. They are collector's items now. And that's your snack, you guys. So girlsgottaeat.com, but not much going on there. So check out rainagreenberg.com and you can get tickets to her tour, which is starting very soon. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on TikTok and Instagram. I am Ash Hess, Raina is Raina dot Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. If you enjoyed this episode, share with a friend. You know, there was a lot in here. It's going to speak to someone in your friend group, maybe in your mom group.

• 1:05:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe your gay group.

• 1:05:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you may be your gay lovers. So share this around and we will see you Monday.

• 1:05:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys.

• 1:05:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.