311. A Love Affair That Turned Deadly - The Murder of Steven Beard

On this episode, Payton and Garrett dive into the case of Steven Beard. When the wealthy retired man calls 911 claiming his stomach literally exploded, police are shocked to figure out what really happened. Links: Netflix Video Every Monday @11am PST, 12pm MST, 2pm EST 1pm CST https://www.netflix.com/murderwithmyhusband Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com Discount Codes: https://mailchi.mp/c6f48670aeac/oh-no-media-discount-codes Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/murderwithmyhusband/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@murderwithmyhusband Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7?si=f5224c9fd99542a7 Case Sources: ABCNews.go.com - https://abcnews.go.com/US/twin-daughters-recount-testifying-mother-deadly-alleged-love/story?id=93120585 CBSNews.com - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-family-friend-questioned-12-05-2003/ Medium.com - https://medium.com/@ringosayya/killed-by-wifes-secret-lesbian-lover-22b211773dca Yahoo.com - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/where-tracey-tarlton-woman-shot-132400856.html GoodMorningAmerica.com - https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/amp/news/story/alleged-love-triangle-turn-deadly-wife-center-millionaire-93120519 AllThatsInteresting.com - https://allthatsinteresting.com/celeste-beard Bustle.com - https://www.bustle.com/p/women-who-kills-celeste-beard-johnson-is-still-serving-a-life-sentence-for-the-murder-of-her-husband-16999991 CaseLaw. FindLaw.com - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/tx-court-of-appeals/1175149.html Wikipedia.com - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeste_Beard Murderpedia.org - https://murderpedia.org/female. B/b/beard-celeste-photos.htm Oxygen.com - https://www.oxygen.com/snapped-behind-bars/crime-news/celeste-beard-johnson-speaks-out-about-murder-conviction Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Payton Moreland?

  You're listening to an Ono Media Podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. This is Murder with My Husband. I'm Payton Moreland.

• 0:07Garrett Moreland?

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• 0:08Payton Moreland?

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• 0:09Garrett Moreland?

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• 0:30Payton Moreland?

  We hope you guys are having a wonderful Monday or whatever day you are watching or listening to this. We love you so much.

• 0:40Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, we got.

• 0:40Payton Moreland?

  Now, we need to give him your 10 seconds.

• 0:42Garrett Moreland?

  10 seconds. Um, I think I've mentioned this before, but like I get these migraines where the only thing that happens is my vision goes out, like gone. Like I can probably see like one tenth of what I normally do, like everything's super blurry. It's kind of crazy. Anyways, happened this morning, really annoying. I've gotten my head scanned a couple of times. Everything's good there. Not really sure why I get them. It just, it'll happen randomly. There's no kind of rhyme or reason or anything. Yeah, if you guys were curious, that's what happens to my head. So I got one of those this morning, but all good. Now I can see again. It usually lasts about like 30 to 45 minutes and then my vision just comes back. Strange, right? I don't know. Maybe I have some superpower

• 1:25Garrett Moreland?

  or something that I don't know about yet. That'd be pretty cool. I would love that.

• 1:31Garrett Moreland?

  Other than that, nothing crazy for my 10 seconds. Um, Bagel Shop. Been going hard on the Bagel Shop. Again, follow us, follow us on Instagram if you want to stay up to date on my Bagel Shop. If you want to stay up to date on anything Murder with My Husband, we've made it a goal to try to improve our Murder with My Husband social media, so see what happens there. Goals, goals are important. Doesn't mean it'll always happen, but they're important.

• 1:58Payton Moreland?

  Words of wisdom.

• 1:59Garrett Moreland?

  Words of wisdom. All right, everyone. Thanks for being here. We're going to hop right into today's case.

• 2:07Payton Moreland?

  Our sources for this episode are ABCnews.go.com, CBSnews.com, Medium.com, Yahoo.com, GoodMorningAmerica.com, AllThat'sInteresting.com, Bustle.com, caselaw.fine law.com, Veritpedia, and Oxygen. Disclaimer, this episode includes mentions of suicidal ideation. So if you or someone you know is struggling, please call or text the Suicide Crisis Lifeline at 988 for help. And as always, please listen with care. Love is like a drug. It's not just a saying, it's actually true. Falling in love activates the same reward centers in the brain, and it

• 2:48Payton Moreland?

  causes us to release a lot of the same euphoric chemicals, too. Endorphins, dopamine, oxytocin. So hearing that, it is no surprise that people do completely irrational things while they are falling in love. They, you know, say things they wouldn't normally say, do things they wouldn't normally do. And the high that you get from falling in love doesn't actually last forever. And when it wears off, and we look back on the way we behaved, we might realize the mistakes that we made during that time, the people we forgot, the plans we abandoned, the feelings we may have heard along the way. Though for some people, those mistakes are a lot more drastic

• 3:33Payton Moreland?

  than others. And sometimes, like we'll see in today's case, they can even be deadly. I think a lot of times in true crime, when you see someone kill because they want to be with an affair partner or something, you're like, oh, my gosh, why not just get divorced? But

• 3:50Payton Moreland?

  the reality of it is, these people are high. They're high on these drugs of falling in love. And it happens way more often than you would think, which is why it's so real. It's so

• 4:02Garrett Moreland?

  dangerous. So much. If you're on social media, I mean, people are always posting like, look what my ex said to me. Um, I don't know, just things like that. And people say some crazy shits.

• 4:14Payton Moreland?

  And act.

• 4:15Garrett Moreland?

  Crazy stuff.

• 4:16Payton Moreland?

  Wild.

• 4:17Garrett Moreland?

  But also, I mean,

• 4:19Payton Moreland?

  Again, you're releasing those endorphins into your body.

• 4:22Garrett Moreland?

  Crazy, yeah.

• 4:24Payton Moreland?

  So let's dial back the clock to the late 90s as we head to an area right outside of Austin, Texas called Westlake Hills, Westlake Hills, late 90s. And it's here that we meet the former general manager of a local news channel and self-made millionaire, Stephen Beard. Now Stephen was a true native Texan. He grew up in the state. He served in the Navy Air Corps. He went on to attend Texas Christian University and Southern Methodist University, all in his Lone Star State.

• 5:02Payton Moreland?

  Stephen got his start in radio and advertising in the 50s and slowly climbed the corporate ladder over time. And eventually around the 1970s, he made the move over to television. And then in 1983, he helped launch a Fox affiliated local TV channel called KBVO TV as its founding general manager. Now Stephen and his wife, Elise, had three children and they built a really nice life together in the Austin area.

• 5:39Payton Moreland?

  But then in 1993, Elise, Stephen's wife, died of cancer, leaving the now 69-year-old Stephen Beard a widow. And what happened next probably rubbed a few people the wrong way, but Stephen was not really great on his own. So within a few weeks of Elise's death, he was getting to know a waitress from their local country club, a 30-year-old woman named Celeste Johnson.

• 6:11Garrett Moreland?

  In case anyone is curious, 70 minus 30 is 40, just some simple math in case again anyone's curious.

• 6:19Payton Moreland?

  Now their first date included a fancy meal at an Italian restaurant, a nightcap at his lavish home. And then he let Celeste drive his $50,000 Lexus back to her place. And after that, things escalated quickly. Just a few weeks later, the two were in a full-blown relationship. And Steven asked Celeste if she and her twin daughters wanted to come live with him. Celeste didn't have it very easy up until this point. She never really knew her birth parents. She claimed the only time she met her birth mother, she said to her, quote, "I'm not your mother. I was just your incubator."

• 6:59Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 7:00Payton Moreland?

  So Celeste was adopted, but claimed she had experienced physical abuse at the hands of her adoptive father, which led to thoughts of suicide as she became a teenager. But things changed for Celeste when at 17 years old, she actually got pregnant with twin girls, Christina and Jennifer. She actually married the twins' father, but that didn't really work out as she had hoped. They were soon divorced and Celeste took the girls on the road, moving from one state to another to find a new home. Along the way, Celeste married two more times. Once to an air force mechanic who she divorced in 1991,

• 7:44Payton Moreland?

  and then to a man named Jimmy Martinez. That didn't work out either. And that's when Celeste finally found herself in Austin, trying to make it on her own, while raising her two now 13-year-old twin daughters. And she's working at the local country club. And then that brings us back to when she met 69-year-old Steven Beard around October or November of 1993. Now, by January of 1994, a few months later, she and the girls were living in his mansion. And that same year, Steven sold his shares of the news company and added to his already pretty massive fortune. And finally, after 13 months under the same roof,

• 8:30Payton Moreland?

  Steven decided he wanted to marry Celeste. He was just gonna jump. From one marriage right to the other, but of course, he knew that Celeste needed to sign a prenup first, which smart and Celeste agreed to it. It still left her with $500,000, though not a cent more if they got divorced.

• 8:50Garrett Moreland?

  Pretty good though, pretty good.

• 8:51Payton Moreland?

  So on February 18th, 1995, five days after Celeste's 32nd birthday, the two tied the knot at the same Austin country club where they met. And in 1998, Stephen even adopted Celeste's two daughters.

• 9:08Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 9:09Payton Moreland?

  Christine and Jennifer. This was after their birth father died of suicide.

• 9:14Garrett Moreland?

  Geez, I mean, as big as the age difference is, I mean, sounds like it's going well.

• 9:20Payton Moreland?

  Now, as a family, they began to travel all over the world and take wave runners out on the lake near their vacation home about 40 miles north of Austin.

• 9:32Garrett Moreland?

  You know, there sometimes is nothing more fun than taking out a jet ski or a sea do. It's, they're so fun.

• 9:40Payton Moreland?

  So fun, especially when you're riding on the back of Garrett's and he keeps flipping you off.

• 9:44Garrett Moreland?

  Oh yeah, it's like the best, the best.

• 9:48Payton Moreland?

  So safe to say they were living the dream Celeste had always imagined for herself and her twin girls. And friends of Stephen's even claimed Celeste kind of made him younger at heart and he really was madly in love with her, which meant he was spending a lot of money on Celeste as well. Not only did he buy her tons of lavish gifts and jewelry, he gave her a $10,000 a month allowance. And that was basically spent on redoing parts of their house, throwing fancy parties, and going on month-long extravagant vacations to places like China. But in October of 1999, okay, also $10,000 a month in 1999.

• 10:34Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, it's probably like, I'm gonna say close to like 30 grand a month now.

• 10:38Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, 10,000 is a lot now.

• 10:40Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 10:40Payton Moreland?

  So in October of 1999, something happened that no amount of money could fix. In the early morning hours of October 2nd, Stephen Beard was awoken from a deep sleep in his Austin home. He and Celeste had actually been sleeping in different rooms at that point because she complained that his breathing machine was too loud. So he reached for his phone on his nightstand and dialed 911 himself. And when the operator answered, Steven told them he needed an ambulance immediately.

• 11:17Garrett Moreland?

  Wow.

• 11:17Payton Moreland?

  So, early morning hours, Steven's calling 911 on his own. And when they ask him, okay, why do you need an ambulance? He says, quote, "My guts just jumped out of my stomach. They blew out. Yeah, they blew out of my stomach and they're lying on my stomach."

• 11:37Garrett Moreland?

  What in the...

• 11:39Speaker 02

  I got to just jump out of my stomach. Yeah, they blew out of my stomach.

• 11:46Payton Moreland?

  He tells the operator he's in terrible pain. He has no idea what happened to him other than he can see his guts on his stomach.

• 11:53Garrett Moreland?

  Crap.

• 11:54Payton Moreland?

  And then he asked if the police would call the house and try to wake up his wife, who was actually asleep in the other wing. So as first responders are now heading to the Beard's mansion, they try Celeste a few different times, but no one is answering. And when they get there, they find the doors are all locked, the lights are all off, and nothing seems broken. They spot Steven through the window, lying on his bed, bleeding. So they break open a patio door to get inside. And they race to treat Steven, who does, in fact, have an open wound on his stomach. At first, they think, okay, maybe he had some sort of hernia operation,

• 12:40Payton Moreland?

  and his incision on his stomach had split open. But then Celeste and her daughter Kristen finally wake up and storm into the room from the other side of the house to see what all the commotion is. And this is when they see Steven, her husband and

• 12:56Garrett Moreland?

  He alive? Is he dead?

• 12:58Payton Moreland?

  Kristen's stepfather, being loaded onto a stretcher. They tell Celeste that a helicopter is on its way to airlift Steven to a hospital. And Celeste is completely distraught, yelling things like, please don't let him die. And in the meantime, police are already starting to examine the bedroom and trying to figure out what happened here. And they find a few strange things in all of this commotion. Steven's bathroom has been completely rummaged through. Clothes have been pulled out of the drawers and thrown out onto the floor. Steven's wallet is missing cash, but none of the big ticket items like jewelry or other valuable possessions seem to be missing.

• 13:40Payton Moreland?

  So, police are like, this honestly looks a little staged. And then they actually find the source of Steven's injury. He didn't have a hernia that had split open.

• 13:52Garrett Moreland?

  Someone cut him, right?

• 13:53Payton Moreland?

  Lying on the floor of his bedroom is a fresh shell casing from a 20 gauge shotgun.

• 14:00Garrett Moreland?

  Someone shot him?

• 14:03Payton Moreland?

  So Christina and Celeste meet Steven at the hospital along.

• 14:08Garrett Moreland?

  Sorry, no, keep going. I'm just already thinking, how did she not hear the gunshot? But I guess if she's in the other wing of the house, maybe not. But I don't know, gunshots are loud.

• 14:18Payton Moreland?

  Shotgun.

• 14:19Garrett Moreland?

  Like, there's just a lot of stuff running through my mind.

• 14:21Payton Moreland?

  But also, how does he not realize he was shot? And that's why his stomach burst open.

• 14:25Garrett Moreland?

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• 17:12Payton Moreland?

  So Christina and Celeste are at the hospital along with Celeste's other daughter Jennifer and her boyfriend Christopher, who were staying at Steven's lake house that night. And as they're all sitting in the waiting room, seeing if their adoptive father will live, police come and speak with them about the bullet casing they found. Because by now, they're like, this was not an accident. Steven was shot in the middle of the night in his own home. And when a detective tells the family like, hey, he was shot with a shotgun. Any idea what happened? Any idea who would have done this? Christopher, who is the boyfriend, one of the twin daughter's boyfriends,

• 17:53Payton Moreland?

  actually perks up and says, "What about, quote, 'that crazy Tracy'?" And Jennifer, who is the girlfriend of Christopher and one of the twins, thinks, "Wait a second, that makes sense because this crazy Tracy also owns a 20-gauge shotgun." So, the family's like, "Oh yeah, it's crazy Tracy." And the cops are like, "Who's crazy Tracy?"

• 18:21Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 18:22Payton Moreland?

  Well, she was someone who worked at a little bookstore near Austin and had met Celeste, the mother, about seven months earlier, while the two were both in a mental health facility. So Tracy Tarleton was about 35 years old at the time that she met Celeste in this facility. And like Celeste, she had had a bit of a troubled past. She had dealt with addiction, specifically narcotics and alcohol abuse. She'd also suffered from suicidal ideation. But on paper, Tracy's upbringing was a bit different from Celeste's. She was the daughter of a well-known Fort Worth, Texas lawyer.

• 19:06Payton Moreland?

  She had graduated from Texas A&M with a biology degree. And over the years, she'd worked a few different government jobs before landing at that bookstore in 1994. Now, fast forward, and then earlier in the year that Stephen was shot, so in 1999, Tracy had had a nervous breakdown at work, shouting, getting violent in front of people at the bookstore. And that's when her friends and family encouraged her to seek mental health treatment. She checked herself into a place called St. David's Pavilion, and that was where she met Celeste Beard in March of 1999. Now, at the time, I want to clarify,

• 19:49Payton Moreland?

  Celeste was also at St. David's Pavilion voluntarily.

• 19:55Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, for having thoughts of suicide?

• 19:59Payton Moreland?

  Yes, Steven had asked her to check in after experiencing suicidal ideation. And at first, it seemed like Tracy and Celeste found comfort in one another over some of their shared thoughts and traumas.

• 20:14Garrett Moreland?

  Trauma bonding.

• 20:14Payton Moreland?

  But over time, things kind of changed between the two in the facility. Tracy was openly gay and according to Celeste, she had wanted to start a physical, more intimate relationship with her after they had begun to bond.

• 20:30Garrett Moreland?

  Hmm, okay.

• 20:31Payton Moreland?

  But Celeste didn't feel the same way. The two stayed friends after they left the facility, but now that entire relationship was being called into question.

• 20:42Garrett Moreland?

  Interesting.

• 20:43Payton Moreland?

  Because the entire family is saying it was definitely Tracy.

• 20:47Garrett Moreland?

  And they're like, why would she do it? So on and so forth.

• 20:50Payton Moreland?

  So the following day, October 3rd, police go to Tracy's to speak with her in person, try to understand what really is this dynamic? Why is the family pointing fingers at you? And the first thing they do ask her is if she owns a shotgun. And she says, yes, and she even shows the shotgun to police. Well, detectives run that casing they found at the crime scene. So almost instead of getting some understanding, they just go in immediately looking for physical evidence.

• 21:20Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 21:20Payton Moreland?

  And they discover that it is an exact match for the shotgun at Tracy's house. So pretty quickly.

• 21:29Garrett Moreland?

  It seems a little, maybe it is as open and shut as it seems, but then we have to figure out why.

• 21:35Payton Moreland?

  Well, and here's the thing. I think something that happens often in true crime cases that from the outside looking in does seem a little odd is police really trust a victim's family? If they believe there's a suspect, because I mean, who knows a victim's personal life more? And most of the time when someone is killed, it does happen to be someone they know and not a stranger. And so police, especially in this case, really go forward with if his entire family. Is pointing the finger at Tracy.

• 22:06Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 22:07Payton Moreland?

  We almost don't need to doubt it. We just need to go in and see if the physical evidence matches. And that's exactly what they do. And on October 8th, just six days after Steven was shot, Tracy is arrested and charged with assault.

• 22:23Garrett Moreland?

  I guess the hard part is, I mean, but someone else could have taken her gun, right? Like Celeste could have had her gun. Like, do they have DNA that shows that she was there? Or is it just the gun matching?

• 22:35Payton Moreland?

  Well, and here's the thing. I tried to look this up because I've noticed in true crime cases, they'll be like, oh, the shell casing matched. And I don't know if that's like a hundred percent exclusive match or, oh, this gun could have been a gun that, you know what I mean?

• 22:52Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, as far as I am aware, it's usually a pretty dead giveaway.

• 22:57Payton Moreland?

  With shell casings, because you can like match up the lines.

• 23:00Garrett Moreland?

  There's more, there's more to it than you think, correct? As far as I'm aware, I could be wrong, but as far as my knowledge on guns and shell casings, yeah.

• 23:08Payton Moreland?

  Cause sometimes I feel like they'll be like, oh, that gun used that type of bullets. And it's like, yeah, so does forty five other guns.

• 23:16Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 23:17Payton Moreland?

  You know what I mean?

• 23:17Garrett Moreland?

  Yep.

• 23:18Payton Moreland?

  But yeah, I guess matching the actual forensics of a shell casing is definitely different. So shortly after this, Tracy is released on bond as she awaits trial. And I know what you guys are all asking at this point. Okay, she got charged with assault. So Steven Beard alive after being shot with a shotgun? Well, shockingly, he is on the road to recovery in the hospital.

• 23:43Garrett Moreland?

  I'll just read this just in case anyone's curious. So it is, it's, it's the, that the fired cartridge.

• 23:49Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 23:50Garrett Moreland?

  Um, case found at the crime scene has been identified as having been fired by the same specific firearm.

• 23:57Payton Moreland?

  Right.

• 23:58Garrett Moreland?

  As that casing. So I mean, it's, it's open and shut for the most part.

• 24:02Payton Moreland?

  I think the way they do this is when a gun fires.

• 24:05Garrett Moreland?

  Correct. It creates.

• 24:06Payton Moreland?

  It creates patterns on the shell casing that is just dependent on what the inside of the gun looks like.

• 24:12Garrett Moreland?

  Granted, I'm sure someone out there knows a lot more than us, so feel free to comment it somewhere. I know it's. More complicated than what we're explaining.

• 24:21Payton Moreland?

  But maybe it is more exclusive than just like, uh, hey, there's a possibility this gun did this. Maybe it is more like they match this gun is the gun that shot.

• 24:30Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, no, it is. Yes, yes. Cause it comes out of that specific gun from that shell casing.

• 24:34Payton Moreland?

  Right.

• 24:34Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 24:34Payton Moreland?

  So he is on the road to recovery, though it is definitely a bumpy one. He had damaged several internal organs, including his colon. But after seven surgeries, Stephen, who is fairly old, was now in stable condition. And following some rehab, he was eventually released from the hospital in January of 2000. Now, his doctors warned the family, he was still at an increased risk of infection. So please be diligent about giving him his antibiotics. However, within a few days, he was back at the hospital with an infection.

• 25:16Payton Moreland?

  And at 8:00 AM on January 22nd, Stephen had a terrible pain in his chest, followed by a high fever and low blood pressure. He ended up testing positive for staph infection. And some reports said he had a blood clot that went to his heart.

• 25:34Garrett Moreland?

  Geez.

• 25:35Payton Moreland?

  And by that afternoon, 75-year-old Stephen Beard was dead. So although he had survived this shooting, he ended up dying of complications from the injuries of the shooting, which meant Tracy Tarleton was no longer being charged with assault. Six days later, she was rearrested and slapped with murder charges. Now, what was strange about Tracy's case was, again, when the prosecution's like, okay, well, what's the motive? It doesn't exactly make sense why she would have gone after Stephen just to get celest.

• 26:14Payton Moreland?

  This is something that isn't adding up to detectives, but no matter how much the police try to pressure Tracy into speaking out, they're like, what happened? Why? Why? Like, why is your gun here? What happened? She refuses to budge. She doesn't say a thing about motive or an accomplice or anything. Not even when they're like, hey, we'll offer you a plea bargain. Like, the forensic evidence is tied to you. We will offer you to talk to us. So detectives are like, whatever, we'll just close the case and move on. As did Celeste Beard. There were quite a few things that don't sit right about this entire thing.

• 26:56Payton Moreland?

  Especially for those who knew the intimate details about Celeste and Steven's marriage before this shooting. So according to some sources, the trouble between the two had actually started right after the two tied the knot. Little things that were hard to pinpoint, like Steven had noticed his late wife's jewelry had gone missing from his safety deposit box. And then Celeste started spending more time at Steven's lake house, 40 miles northwest of Austin, rather than like staying at the house that they shared together. And it wasn't a huge secret that Celeste was spending a lot of Steven's money at the same time. And apparently between October and November of 1999,

• 27:42Payton Moreland?

  she spent close to $320,000 within a month.

• 27:47Garrett Moreland?

  Oh my gosh. Which is, I would, I'm not an inflation expert, but I would say close to half a million, maybe like $600,000, maybe more.

• 27:56Payton Moreland?

  Well, and then she spends another $250,000 in the month of December 1999 alone.

• 28:05Payton Moreland?

  They had a good Christmas.

• 28:06Garrett Moreland?

  That's insane. I mean, that's a ton of money now.

• 28:09Payton Moreland?

  Mind you, Steven is already giving her 10 grand a month to do whatever she wants with. And he also had paid off $20,000 in debt that Celeste had from previous insurance fraud and funded her custody battle.

• 28:25Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, okay.

• 28:26Payton Moreland?

  But obviously she is wanting more. And it was also made clear by Celeste that her relationship with Steven was not romantic. So this is what she's telling her friends, like, I'm 30, he's 70. She's like 32, but basically, and she's like, and no, it's not, it's not romantic at all. This is just like purely like companionship, basically. But the thing is, is he didn't know that on his side of things. She claims they were only intimate twice in their marriage, the night that she had moved in with him and then the night they got married. Now Steven apparently got so fed up with this that she wouldn't be intimate.

• 29:08Payton Moreland?

  That just four months into the marriage, he ends up telling Celeste that he's not sure they're meant for each other. And then he basically threatens to file divorce. But supposedly he changed his mind when they agreed on what they called a quote, oral sex solution. So this was exclusively on Sunday mornings.

• 29:31Garrett Moreland?

  Oral sex, they named it.

• 29:33Payton Moreland?

  Yeah. So this is how they were gonna make it so they weren't getting divorced. They both agreed on this.

• 29:39Garrett Moreland?

  Every Sunday morning.

• 29:40Payton Moreland?

  Now beforehand, Celeste would say things to her daughters like, well, gotta go make my money now. And then go do oral sex solution in the other room.

• 29:49Garrett Moreland?

  Hey, alright.

• 29:50Payton Moreland?

  So it's very clear where Celeste stands in this marriage, like.

• 29:53Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah. I mean, it's clear she's.

• 29:55Payton Moreland?

  Her duty is being married.

• 29:57Garrett Moreland?

  It's kinda clear, to be honest, she's just there for the money.

• 30:01Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, and she's not quiet about it.

• 30:02Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 30:03Payton Moreland?

  Like she's like, yeah, he almost divorced me, so now I have to do this thing once a week. And that's my, that's like me going to work. That's how I get my paycheck for the week.

• 30:12Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 30:12Payton Moreland?

  So.

• 30:13Garrett Moreland?

  Alright, alright. I don't really know what to say about that, so cool.

• 30:16Payton Moreland?

  As the years went on, Celeste began looking outside the marriage for romance because as, I mean, it's obvious. This is, her marriage is not ticking off that box.

• 30:28Garrett Moreland?

  On her side.

• 30:29Payton Moreland?

  Yes.

• 30:29Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 30:30Payton Moreland?

  So this is when she actually rekindles things with her third husband, Jimmy Martinez, who she's divorced from. And she really went out of her way to make that happen. According to her daughters, there were times when Celeste would spike Steven's food and drink with sleeping pills to get him to pass out so she could leave the house and go hang out with Jimmy. Martinez, her ex-husband.

• 30:56Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, it's illegal.

• 30:57Payton Moreland?

  Not to mention, Celeste would say terrible things about Steven behind his back, like openly. She hated him. She didn't want to go on vacations with him. She just wished that he would die already.

• 31:09Garrett Moreland?

  Dang.

• 31:09Payton Moreland?

  So by New Year's Eve, 1999, it's safe to say Steven, he's not dumb. He'd had enough. He'd caught on to her trysts, her overspending, and maybe even the sleeping pills. And he told Celeste, that's it, I'm going to cut you off financially, which she then responded with threats of suicide. And according

• 31:30Garrett Moreland?

  I see where this is going now, yeah.

• 31:32Payton Moreland?

  According to her daughters, there was one night when she even grabbed a gun and started waving it around the home. Steven and Christina were there, like they witnessed this whole thing.

• 31:40Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 31:41Payton Moreland?

  Christina said everyone felt like fair game at that moment. Celeste had no concerns about hurting anyone. All of which led them urging her to go stay at the hospital where she ends up meeting Tracy.

• 31:55Garrett Moreland?

  And I bet you that she actually did fall in love with Tracy. I bet you learn love with each other.

• 32:00Payton Moreland?

  And this has been downplayed?

• 32:02Garrett Moreland?

  And this has been downplayed and Tracy tried to kill.

• 32:05Payton Moreland?

  And maybe there was a little gaslighting?

• 32:07Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, 100%.

• 32:08Payton Moreland?

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• 32:49Payton Moreland?

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• 35:27Garrett Moreland?

  But.

• 35:27Payton Moreland?

  Instead, he made sure that his biological and two adopted daughters would actually now split his inheritance.

• 35:34Garrett Moreland?

  Holy wait, could you imagine that he dies and the mom gets nothing but the daughters?

• 35:38Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 35:39Garrett Moreland?

  That would be, I mean, that would create some, you'd really see if your mom actually liked you or not.

• 35:46Payton Moreland?

  Right.

• 35:47Garrett Moreland?

  Like, that would be some family drama.

• 35:49Payton Moreland?

  So this had kind of been in the works, but essentially he amends a lot of these things months before he finally passes away. And it seems he did all of that without Celeste's knowledge, like I said. But Celeste's strange behavior did not stop after Stephen's death. In fact, it got even more unsettling. For example, as Celeste was preparing for her husband's funeral, she told her 18 year old daughters that she was gonna buy them as well two pink coffins. Which, considering Celeste's history of like waving a gun around the house, for the daughters, this wasn't a funny joke of like, oh, you're prepping for our funerals too.

• 36:34Garrett Moreland?

  That's just weird.

• 36:35Payton Moreland?

  And then a few months later, she sold Stephen's house for $2 million.

• 36:39Garrett Moreland?

  Wait, how'd she get, I thought she didn't get anything.

• 36:42Payton Moreland?

  I don't know if it was like she had the right because they were married and she was living in the house. Because I know that like, there's something called spousal.

• 36:51Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, but if you give the house to someone else in your.

• 36:55Payton Moreland?

  Maybe he didn't, maybe he just like left it up to if she's still living here, she can sell it. You know what I mean? But it was his saving, his savings.

• 37:04Garrett Moreland?

  Like his other money?

• 37:05Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 37:05Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 37:06Payton Moreland?

  Wills are so complicated.

• 37:08Garrett Moreland?

  No, because yeah, I mean, if he, if he gave the house to the twins or his son, she wouldn't be able to sell it. So it had to have been to her.

• 37:17Payton Moreland?

  I've actually been like religiously watching the Corey Richens trial, which is a wife who is accused of allegedly murdering her husband for money is the main motive. And he had like a trust.

• 37:35Payton Moreland?

  And this is the only reason I know of like spousal the whole home thing because she claimed that she could sell the house, but the reality was her name wasn't actually on the home. It was just in her husband's name. So they were like, you living here doesn't actually affect this because your name was never on the home to begin with. I don't know. It's like a whole complicated thing. I also think it varies state to state, to be honest, the rules on all that. Then Celeste starts seeing another man, a bartender and musician named Cole Johnson. The two were seen out partying together and within six months of losing Steven, she and Cole were married. This is now Celeste's fifth trip to the altar. But things really

• 38:19Payton Moreland?

  came to a head around February of 2000 when Celeste pulled out a knife.

• 38:25Garrett Moreland?

  Geez, what is going on with this girl, man?

• 38:27Payton Moreland?

  And begins to pressure her twin daughters into dying by suicide. It's like a whole mental crisis.

• 38:35Garrett Moreland?

  She needs to be gone.

• 38:37Payton Moreland?

  Um, she does this and then she begins stabbing herself in the leg.

• 38:40Garrett Moreland?

  Oh my gosh.

• 38:41Payton Moreland?

  And so her daughters call 911. Then Celeste is taken to the hospital. After being discharged, Christina and Jennifer decide they have been through enough. They leave home and their mother for their own safety, but Celeste's wild behavior doesn't stop. She continues calling them, making threats. I mean, the relationship between her and her daughters after Steven's death, who remember adopted them, is just getting shredded.

• 39:09Garrett Moreland?

  I would assume it's because he did leave a bunch of stuff to the daughters, not her.

• 39:13Payton Moreland?

  Yes.

• 39:13Garrett Moreland?

  And that's why the relationship's getting worse and worse.

• 39:16Payton Moreland?

  And the twins end up recording some of the conversations they're having with their mother and then they eventually share those recorded phone calls with police.

• 39:27Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 39:28Payton Moreland?

  So, by the way, this whole entire time, police have now definitely had their suspicions on Celeste with all of the fallout since the murder. Um, but at this point, everything they had was circumstantial. And the issue is Tracy, who is sitting in prison, confesses to being in the house that night and shooting Steven. So despite the fact that police are like, we think Celeste did it, they have someone sitting in prison who has a forensic match to the gun. He was like, no, I did it. Like she's fully confessed. But now, police are starting to wonder, wait, has Celeste like fully manipulated Tracy and asked her to do it? And now she's like protecting her in prison? Or did Tracy really act alone?

• 40:12Payton Moreland?

  Well, as you know, Tracy is refusing to implicate Celeste. In fact, a grand jury waited more than a year and a half after Steven's death to indict Tracy on murder charges because they were hoping that she would eventually relax and end up talking because they just don't think they have the full story.

• 40:29Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 40:30Payton Moreland?

  But she doesn't. But then all of this changes when Tracy sees a newspaper article from her jail cell. She sees an article that Celeste Beard, whose husband had been murdered and Tracy was sitting in prison for it, had actually now remarried pretty quickly to a man named Cole Johnson.

• 40:51Garrett Moreland?

  What the freak is going on?

• 40:53Payton Moreland?

  And Tracy, who was clearly out of the loop in prison, contacts her attorney and says, that's it, I'm finally ready to talk about what happened that night. So while it was true that Tracy had a pretty big infatuation with Celeste, what detectives weren't told at the beginning because Celeste had lied to everyone and had gaslit Tracy, was that the feelings were mutual because when they were in the mental health facility, Tracy and Celeste had actually begun having a physical and emotional affair, a full-blown relationship. And as the two women spent more and more time with each other, the more they bonded over traumatic upbringings and the more secrets they revealed to one another.

• 41:35Payton Moreland?

  And according to Tracy, that's when Celeste told her she had only married Steven to help secure custody of her two daughters. She now felt like she was trapped in this marriage. He was emotionally and physically abusive to her and that's what had driven her to the point of suicide and why she was now in the hospital.

• 41:53Garrett Moreland?

  Gee.

• 41:53Payton Moreland?

  Now, that doesn't match any of the statements from anyone else. Again. Celeste's own daughter Christina, who lived there along with other witnesses, say none of this was true. No one had ever seen Steven be emotionally or even physically abusive. He wasn't the one giving her sleeping pills so he could go cheat. And there were no reports ever made to the police. But Tracy, obviously in the hospital, has no reason not to believe Celeste. And when they were both discharged from St. David's, they actually continued spending time together. It's not like it was just like this secret love affair at the hospital. They spent a lot of time together. Everyone who worked at Tracy's bookstore now knew about Celeste, her girlfriend. And in July of 1999, Celeste even let Tracy host

• 42:36Payton Moreland?

  a party for all of her employees at the bookstore at Stevens Lake House. But as you know, on the other side of this, the family is like, oh, that's just crazy Tracy, the friend that mom met. Now, at this party, multiple people, including Celeste's own daughters, actually see Tracy and Celeste kissing and then found them.

• 42:58Garrett Moreland?

  Oh. Sheesh.

• 43:01Payton Moreland?

  And then found them in bed together the following morning after this crazy wild party at the lake house.

• 43:06Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, they just keep calling her crazy Tracy?

• 43:08Payton Moreland?

  And so this is the point when Steven is like, yeah, the daughters now know and they're like, yeah, no, you're no longer bringing Tracy around. Like, she's not a lot. You're not hanging out with her anymore. But nothing changes. Tracy told police she knew Celeste was putting sleeping pills in her husband's food and drinks so she could sneak out of the house to be with her, as well as her other ex-husband.

• 43:32Garrett Moreland?

  None of this was brought up. None of this was... Yeah.

• 43:38Payton Moreland?

  Well, she thought she was in love with her.

• 43:39Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, I know.

• 43:41Payton Moreland?

  But there was one night in the fall of 1999, about a month before the shooting, when Celeste called Tracy and asked her to rush over to the house. There, Tracy actually found Steven unconscious at the dining room table. She and Celeste moved him to the floor and then Celeste tried to suffocate him with a plastic bag.

• 44:01Garrett Moreland?

  What in the world is going on right now?

• 44:04Payton Moreland?

  Only apparently it doesn't work. Which I don't know.

• 44:07Garrett Moreland?

  I don't, I don't.

• 44:08Payton Moreland?

  I don't know how to feel that. But apparently he doesn't die. And this is when Tracy and Celeste kind of come up with this plan together of like, um, we gotta get rid of him because Celeste has put on this whole... battered wife thing and Tracy believes her she believed everything was wrong in this house that he was abusive that he was physically abusive and Tracy tells police I felt bad from her I thought he was a terrible man that she was truly trapped and he wasn't gonna let up and then in late September Celeste went to Tracy asking for a favor she was supposed to travel with Steven to Europe in the next few weeks and she was like I can't go I can't go be alone with

• 44:53Payton Moreland?

  him she knew Tracy was an avid skeet shooter and a good shot so Celeste asked Tracy to sneak into their home and shoot Steven before this European trip so she wouldn't have to go and Tracy claims to police that she refused to do it at first but when Celeste was like listen if I have to go on this trip I'm gonna just kill myself instead so she threatened suicide and Tracy's like okay never mind I will help you and then she asked Celeste for a few favors as well if she was caught she wanted Celeste to find safe homes for her pets pay for her legal fees and support her in

• 45:34Payton Moreland?

  jail all of which Celeste swore she would do and Tracy being so in love thinking they were in a full-blown relationship gonna end up together followed through on the offer so on the afternoon of October 1 Tracy went by the house to plot everything out with Celeste Celeste told her Jennifer would be up at the lake house with her boyfriend but Christina would be asleep in another wing of the house she showed Tracy where to park how to get in where Steven would be sleeping and Celeste also promised to rush in and grab the shotgun casing which we know she didn't do so around 2am the morning of October 2 Tracy arrived at the house found the gate open

• 46:14Payton Moreland?

  as planned and entered through an unlocked door near Steven's room she fired off a shot and left

• 46:23Payton Moreland?

  But Celeste doesn't collect the bullet and Steven doesn't die that night. And Celeste didn't do much to protect Tracy when police asked about her because they offer up crazy Tracy as the number one suspect.

• 46:36Garrett Moreland?

  That's wild. That's wild.

• 46:39Payton Moreland?

  The part of this story that

• 46:41Garrett Moreland?

  Jeez, man.

• 46:42Payton Moreland?

  Makes sense as to why Tracy stayed quiet for so long, um, that was hidden from anyone, everyone was that after the charges were filed, Celeste remained in contact daily with Tracy. Celeste was using a secret burner phone to call her. Celeste told Tracy she had been stuffing things into his wounds to try and infect him and make him sicker. So that he couldn't say who had done this and apparently it worked as we know. But once Steven died and Tracy's charges were upgraded to murder, this is when she stops hearing from Celeste. She kind of ghosts her and then she learns about Celeste's new marriage and she feels ultimate betrayal.

• 47:25Payton Moreland?

  And that's when she started realizing, maybe Celeste had been lying to me all the time. Maybe she wasn't at, at risk in that house. Maybe there was no hostility. There was no abuse. She believes at this point that Celeste wanted Steven gone because she wanted her share of his fortune, which welcome to the club, Celeste. You're just a little bit late in realizing of that. But this isn't the end of it. In February of 2000, shortly after Steven died, Celeste went to her personal assistant and asked her if she quote, knew of anyone who could now get rid of Tracy. Celeste believed it was only a matter of time before Tracy flips on her and begins cooperating with police.

• 48:00Garrett Moreland?

  This girl's nuts. This girl's nuts.

• 48:04Payton Moreland?

  Gives her assistant $500 to try and hire a hitman. But the assistant was like, uh, that's it. I'm going to ask Celeste for more and more money. And then never actually hire a hitman. I'm just going to keep trying to get money out of her. Now, when Celeste's daughter Christina caught on to all of these payments happening, Celeste was like, well, listen, I'm just trying to get rid of Tracy because I'm worried she's going to pin it on me. And then she also begins to threaten her own daughter, being like, and if you tell anyone, you're also getting a hitman and going bye bye. So with Tracy Tarleton's statement on the record, Celeste is also now arrested because they now have an eyewitness or they now have a witness turning against her and she's charged with capital murder. Celeste continues this whole entire time to insist that there

• 48:48Payton Moreland?

  was never an affair. Tracy was delusional. She was just obsessed with her. And when Celeste's trial arrived in 2003, Tracy was the star witness, obviously. Basically, the trial goes as everything that I've told you. Phone calls come up. Christina even turns in a phone call of Celeste saying, I tried to hire somebody to kill Tracy. So no one is on Celeste's team at this trial. Celeste was found guilty of capital murder. Her daughters-

• 49:22Garrett Moreland?

  Tracy's charges probably don't really change, correct? Like, I mean, I don't know what, I mean, she is the one who tried to kill.

• 49:29Payton Moreland?

  Celeste spoke out about her daughter's testifying against her. They said, quote, "When they found out that they weren't going to get any money till I died or went to prison, that's when they turned against me." So she, she's like claiming like, oh, they just wanted any money I had.

• 49:45Garrett Moreland?

  The will must be different than we thought, too. There must be something else going on that we don't know.

• 49:49Payton Moreland?

  Well, she did sell the house.

• 49:50Garrett Moreland?

  True.

• 49:51Payton Moreland?

  But the thing is, I also think she's just trying to find a reason why her kids would turn against her, other than the fact that she's the bad guy.

• 49:57Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 49:58Payton Moreland?

  Tracy, however, was released-

• 50:01Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, okay.

• 50:01Payton Moreland?

  -on parole in 2011 after serving 10 of her 20-year sentence.

• 50:05Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 50:05Payton Moreland?

  So she served 10 years in prison.

• 50:09Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 50:10Payton Moreland?

  Tracy has told the press, "I don't wake up one single day without feeling shame for what I did." Thankfully, the love drug wore off on Tracy. She was able to see the truth, the lies and the manipulation for what they really were.

• 50:22Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, I don't know how much, honestly, I blame Tracy. It might sound weird, but I mean, what she did is horrible. She needs to serve time for it, which she did. But people can't, yeah.

• 50:32Payton Moreland?

  But this just goes back to manipulation, grifters. It's-

• 50:36Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 50:36Payton Moreland?

  -fairly obvious Celeste was manipulating everyone in her life, including her own children.

• 50:40Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 50:41Payton Moreland?

  In order to get her way. And I think a lot more people would fall victim to that than you want to believe.

• 50:48Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 50:49Payton Moreland?

  And that is the murder of Stephen Beard and the entire chaotic surrounding of it.

• 50:55Garrett Moreland?

  I mean, look, it just comes down to Celeste was actually insane the entire time. She's insane.

• 51:02Payton Moreland?

  Well, and Tracy was clearly not in a good mental spot when she met Celeste.

• 51:05Garrett Moreland?

  No, I mean, they both met at a men's mental facility.

• 51:09Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 51:10Garrett Moreland?

  Like.

• 51:11Payton Moreland?

  You're gonna be impressionable. And again, I'm not making excuses for Tracy because she still murdered someone.

• 51:18Garrett Moreland?

  Well, no, she didn't kill him. He didn't die because of gunshot.

• 51:20Payton Moreland?

  Right. And that also came up at trial that like technically it was attempted murder.

• 51:25Garrett Moreland?

  Correct. It would have been a lot different if he would have died because of the gunshot.

• 51:28Payton Moreland?

  Celeste actually got first degree murder for admitting to the fact that she was trying to keep him sick and make him die.

• 51:35Garrett Moreland?

  Because he probably would have recovered and would have been fine if Celeste didn't do what she did.

• 51:39Payton Moreland?

  Which is why Celeste got such a large sentence.

• 51:42Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 51:43Payton Moreland?

  Because they had evidence. But here's the thing. Again. Tracy was like, Celeste is being abused. I'm saving a woman from a horrible situation. Like when someone is able to lie and manipulate, reality just starts to bend and not look real to everyone involved. All right, you guys, that is our episode this week and we will see you next time with another one. I love it.

• 52:08Garrett Moreland?

  And I hate it.

• 52:09Payton Moreland?

  Goodbye.