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We break down the escalating Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia, the growing pressure on Riyadh’s air defenses, and whether the U. S. could be pulled into a new campaign in Yemen. We also discuss Trump’s Russian diesel deal, Iran’s use of Moscow as a diplomatic channel, and the deeper political dysfunction and public apathy shaping American decision-making. VAER Watches ⬇️ https://www.vaerwatches.com/theteamhouse get a free watch roll with your purchase. 20% for active duty, veteran, leo, & first responders Support the show on Patreon:⬇️ https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse Jack's news outlet:⬇️ https://thehighside.substack.com/ Find Jon Hackett here:⬇️ Jon's Twitter: https://x.com/jonathanhackett Jon's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejonathanhackett Jon's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0C5L659N5?ccs_id=e11a2062-f8d3-498e-bfd7-7d2f3869caf6 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejonathanhackett Twitter: https://x.com/jonathanhackett Find Andy Milburn here: Twitter ⬇️ https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fandymilburn8 LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmilburn2023 Substack ⬇️ https://amilburn.substack.com/ Andy’s book ⬇️ https://www.amazon.com/When-Tempest-Gathers-Mogadishu-Operations 00:00 – Start 00:19 – Houthis Strike Saudi Airports 01:20 – Deadly Ballistic Missile Attack on Riyadh Airport 03:30 – Houthis Warn Airlines Away From Saudi Airspace 04:40 – Is Saudi Arabia Running Low on Air Defense Interceptors? 06:30 – Should the U. S. Strike Houthi Missile Launchers? 07:30 – An American Killed in the Airport Attack 09:19 – Saudi-Backed Ground Offensive in Yemen 11:13 – Jack Joins the Conversation 11:32 – Is Iran Opening a Second Front Through the Houthis? 13:44 – What a New U. S. Air Campaign in Yemen Could Look Like 14:46 – Could the U. S. Put Ground Troops Into Yemen? 16:51 – Could Saudi Forces Handle the Ground War? 19:48 – Would Another Air Campaign Against the Houthis Work? 22:15 – The Real Goal: Protecting Saudi Arabia 23:31 – Bab al-Mandab, Houthi Missiles & the Ground Offensive 25:37 – Trump’s Russian Diesel Deal 27:09 – Why Ukraine Has Little Reason to Stop Striking Russia 28:10 – Russia, Iran & the Contradictions in U. S. Policy 31:07 – Diesel Prices, Midterms & the Russia Deal 34:18 – Havana Syndrome & a New Russia Investigation 36:55 – Iran Sends Negotiating Terms Through Putin 38:18 – Is the American Political System Becoming Permanently Gridlocked? 39:47 – Why Andy Thinks the U. S. Is Different From European Democracies 44:31 – Apathy, Doomerism & Losing Faith in Institutions 47:02 – What Could Actually Trigger a Systemic Crisis? 48:42 – Politics, Fandom & Escapism 49:49 – Why Americans Talk Sports More Than Geopolitics 53:26 – Why So Many Americans Have Checked Out of Politics 55:06 – Would Higher Voter Turnout Actually Change Anything? 56:15 – The Slow Erosion of American Institutions 57:55 – Politics as Entertainment 59:01 – Money in Politics & Endless Campaign Seasons 1:00:17 – Andy Signs Off 1:01:15 – AUSA, Drones & the Defense Industry 1:02:33 – Chinese Honeypots at AUSA 1:04:10 – Closing Thoughts Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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• 1:24Speaker 05

  Um, what's going on over there?

• 1:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, so here's, um, and you can stop me at a, at any time, right? Just to bring everyone up to speed on what, uh, what's been happening here, not just in the country and which is Saudi Arabia, but, uh, in the Middle East generally. So, uh, you know, it's been a busy week for the Houthis, right? And, uh, on the, a few days ago, the sixth through the seventh, we had missiles and drones hit Apeh Airport in the south here, but also King Khalid, which is the main international airport in Riyadh. Uh, three were killed, including a Saudi pilot, Saudia Airlines, which is their national flag carrier.

• 2:08Speaker 06

  And a, at least one aircraft was, uh, was injured, uh, injured, was, was damaged. Um, and then, and then a day later on the eighth, there's another strike, um, that killed another three people. Um, and, uh, on, on the airport, on the main airport too. And then on the 10th, which was yesterday, of course, there was a big strike, um, in terms, I mean, it was another ballistic missile, not that missile was any bigger, but it, it hit, uh, the complex, um, of, uh, terminals three and four are joined together. So it basically hit two terminals, brought them, uh, I don't know whether it brought

• 2:53Speaker 06

  the roofs down, but it caused extensive damage, killed 12 and injured 309. You know, 309 who, who were injured badly enough to be treated in hospital and a number of those unspecified number is still critical. So, you know, among the dead, uh, now those, those are the domestic terminals. So I don't know, I, I don't know how accurate Houthis targeting is. By all accounts, it is pretty damn accurate. I mean, they, they were just, you know, from what I'm seeing, from hearing, hitting a Saudi Airlines jet was not an accident. Um, so it may well have been like they intended to hit the domestic terminals.

• 3:35Speaker 06

  However, um, among the dead, uh, and it did, there were four Saudis, but they're also foreigners, two Bangladeshis who, you know, anyone who's been to the airport here know that a lot of this, a lot of Bangladeshis, third country nationals work in the airport. Also an American who's yet to be identified, a national so far, who's Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Sudan and, uh, and Palestine ironically, okay? So right now the airport's closed, uh, something like, you know, same 300 flights being canceled in the last 24 hours. And, um, and basically all embassies here have told their citizens to stay away from the airport.

• 4:18Speaker 06

  So that's going to have a big impact on, uh, you know, on, on Saudi Arabia, uh, the economy, but also kind of the, the international, um, a couple of major international events coming up. Uh, the Houthis have, you know, have, have doubled down. They said that today that they are, uh, they warned all airlines against using any Saudi airports. Uh, and previously they'd said, look, you can, you can enter Saudi airspace if you request permission from the Houthis. I don't know how you do that, you know? You call up Houthis traffic control. I don't know what their call sign is.

• 5:02Speaker 06

  But now they're saying they're not even going to let anyone fly over airspace, uh, Saudi airspace. So, you know, I mean, how they can stop that, who knows? But, um, but nevertheless, serious situation, right? They've effectively shut down not just the airport here in Riyadh, but all across the country. Um, you know, the UN calls it a dangerous escalation, which is a huge understatement, right? Um, so this, you know, and we talked about the, the sad, the Mecca pact, right? Turkey and Pakistan, uh, now-

• 5:38Speaker 05

  Want to get a come and meet again?

• 5:40Speaker 06

  Yeah. Um, now Pakistan's already confirmed that it has troops here in the Kingdom, Saudi Arabia. Don't know how many, don't know what, what exactly their role is. Of course Saudi Arabia has also, um, is getting, uh, air defense support, not just from the U.S. This is open source, right? As far as, uh, air defense support, uh, Patriot missiles though. I'm not talking about more Patriot than THAAD missiles.

• 6:15Speaker 06

  Because as we all know, we had discussed, there is a worldwide shortage and, um, and the Gulf states, uh, you know, it's obviously how many, how many interceptor missiles they have left is of course classified. I don't know. And if I, even if I did, I couldn't say here on this broadcast. But the concern is that their stock, their inventory is dangerously low. There's much speculation about why these missiles are not getting intercepted. All right? And in within, and because the Saudi air defense system is actually pretty damn good. Uh, they've had a lot of practice. Um, and so this is really unusual that this number of missiles are getting through. I mean, three in one week in one area, right?

• 6:59Speaker 06

  All three inflicting casualties on a scale upwards. That, that's a, that's a, that's a gap, obviously. Um, now it could be, it could be a crisis if this means that the interceptor stock is so low that countries in the region no longer have the ability to, to defend themselves. Um, anyway, so other countries are, are providing, um, short, short range air defense. Okay. Mainly against drones. That is a gap, but the problem now is not drones. The problem, and this is, as I've said, is concerning, is defense against ballistic missiles.

• 7:42Speaker 06

  The best way to do that, seeing as the interceptor stocks are so low, is to go after the launches in Yemen. And that is why you have seen Saudi Arabia MBS requests from Trump twice now.

• 7:56Speaker 06

  Assistance in going after the Houthis launches. Um, so, you know, he has said no, Trump has said no. Now you've got a U.S. citizen killed in the terminal strike. Um, you've got Rubio condemning the attacks, um, calling them a blatant disregard for innocent civilian life, but we don't know yet whether that's going to prompt action by the U.S. government. Uh, Trump said, you know, we may get involved, we're going to look at it when he was, uh, he was asked about it. All right? Um, I would say, all right, not just because I'm sitting here and I have a personal stake in this, but why would we not, you know, going to the aid of a strategic partner, uh,

• 8:41Speaker 06

  whose civilians are under attack and who by the end, and whose adversary has just killed one of our own citizens, despite what they're also doing to fuck up the bad almond, excuse my language. So, um, you know, and then we take a step back, right? So before the attack, as I mentioned, Washington had twice declined Saudis requests. Um, but, uh-

• 9:11Speaker 06

  At the same time, you know, this speaks to the wider war, not just Yemen. You know, we talked last week about the Camp David Principals Meeting on October the 2nd. The, you know, the feeling that some kind of decision had been made. And then you've got the third carrier group heading here to the Middle East. Another Marine Expedition Group speculation that the war will resume again after the midterms. Now, in the meantime, the U.S. has given the Saudis more than 200 Houthis targets in the last two weeks. So, you know, the target development work is, is getting done, but now we have an American dead.

• 9:54Speaker 06

  So that may change the calculus. And I think, I, I think personally, the question of whether the U.S. will join in. Is, is now, I, I think that, I think undoubtedly, we, you know, it's not just me banging the drums saying we have to. Say, I think we will, a dead American, a mass casualty attack, a civilian aircraft terminal and a ground offensive in Yemen that gives a air power something to support, right? Because air power alone, as we've seen, is not that useful. Apologies to Bahn and all my Air Force friends, but you're not going to win a war through an air campaign.

• 10:38Speaker 06

  But if you've got a ground campaign going on at the same time, as we saw in the war against the Islamic State, that gives us an anchor, something to hang on to. And the Houthis have launched a ground offensive, not the Houthis, the Saudis with their anti-Houthis coalition have launched a ground offensive to take Bandar back, Bandalmehmed, Mendeeb, not Bandalmehmed, but the coastline, Mokka and the coastline there in Yemen, which is in, by the way, in U.S. interests to seize also. Since that helps free up that second strait, prevents it being interfered with, all right? So, you know, I, and you see a lot of things, stuff in the news about, hey, there are 50,000 U.S. troops

• 11:23Speaker 06

  now in the region extended into 2027. Of course, vast majority of those are Navy and, and Air Force dudes, right? But there are, there is the Boxar Group here, Amphibious Readiness Group, which has about 2,200 Marines. And there is another readiness group on the way to make an island readiness group. That's only 4,000 Marines. You've got odds and sods from, you know, the 82nd Airborne, most get the command element, et cetera, et cetera. So, but there's no indication that this is going to result in a ground invasion. What it, what it's likely to result in, I'll talk to in, in a moment.

• 12:05Speaker 06

  It's about 18 warships and all enforcing the blockade of Iranian ports. And, and then, you know, you've, you've still got remnants of the 5th Fleet in Bahrain. So.

• 12:19Speaker 05

  Jack, let me ask you, Jack Murphy's joined us. I don't know if Andy, if you see, because I know.

• 12:25Jack Murphy?

  Hey, Jack.

• 12:26Speaker 05

  What are your thoughts, before Andy gets into that, because I definitely want to know what it like, what it would entail. But what are your thoughts, like, we have to step up and, you know, knock the Houthis out, knock the Hou, you knock this off?

• 12:38Jack Murphy?

  I, I mean, Andy's better spoken on this than I am. I think that we're, it sounds, from what, what Andy's saying, it sounds like we're heading into this interesting situation where resources that we would have dumped into fighting Iran are now going to have to be split to also fight the Houthis in Yemen. And so, and, and I mean, that's the Iranians' intent, right? Is to create a two-front, open a new front in the campaign.

• 13:08Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's a great point. And I, so I, and again, I don't have any inside track on this. I'm just, I'm just speculating, speculating like all of us, right?

• 13:21Speaker 06

  But, but arguably now, you've got midterms as the benchmark and you've got before a phase zero in which you're going after Yemen, right? So the resources aren't being, aren't being necessarily taken away. I'm not, look, this isn't an argument really either way. I'm just saying that this is perhaps the way CENTCOM can see it now. Okay, we've got to take, we've been told to take action against Yemen. We can do it now. And now we, and then we've got kind of a, a period between phases when we can shift to focus on Iran. And I think, so without what would that, you know, how that would look, I think, perhaps in, in phase zero.

• 14:03Speaker 06

  And it's a tough proposition that we've gone after, we've gone after the Houthis three times before, right? I mean, we had a campaign just back in July, a seven-week campaign. We launched, you know, something like a thousand sorties in that time. I know that seems like an absurdly round figure, but it was, I remember seeing it was around that, right?

• 14:29Speaker 06

  And, and, and we didn't achieve much at all.

• 14:34Speaker 06

  It was actually, it wasn't July, it was, um.

• 14:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, it was, it was July of this last year. I'm sure someone will jump in and, and correct me.

• 14:51Speaker 06

  So, yeah, we've, we've achieved very little. But, but, so what might be different now, I think, is, you know, going, focusing first of all on just missiles and, or launches within range of Saudi airports, which sadly appears to be, you know, a considerable part of the Houthis' inventory. I think you'd see, you know, I think, I think you see now in phase zero, the U.S. potentially going all in, Tomahawk, everything from cruise missiles through, you know, carrierborne aviation.

• 15:38Speaker 06

  And, and specifically going after, going after missile launches, because that is the problem. That's the only way you preempt the and mitigate the interceptor problem.

• 15:52Jack Murphy?

  But you don't think there's a potential for a ground game at this time?

• 15:55Speaker 06

  No, no, and of course, you know, I've been wrong before. I don't think there was a potential for the invasion of Ukraine, right? A week before it happened, but no, not at all. I mean, I think you probably share, I, I don't know, but I, I think you may share my views on this. I mean, there's, there's nothing to, first of all, the forces aren't in place. I mean, can you imagine? I mean, how many, how many troops do you think it would take? Let's just, okay, let's, we'll come back and talk about the islands and we'll talk about the enriched uranium mission, which you know, a considerable amount. But, you know, what, what if the plan was to clear the straits by securing that coastline, right?

• 16:39Speaker 06

  I mean, think how many troops that would take, it would take at least.

• 16:43Speaker 05

  Multiple tens of thousands.

• 16:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, I, I would say, you know, at least a couple of divisions, right? And you're going to, and, and what are you going to achieve? I mean, you.

• 16:55Jack Murphy?

  Some of the terrain, like if we were to really fully like try to resolve this problem, as I understand it, some of the terrain is like quite mountainous. It's, you know, probably somewhat similar to Afghanistan in that regard.

• 17:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, very much so. And, and you've got the problem, even if you succumb, so it's the sort of terrain that soaks up a lot of troops. Conventional troops are going to have a problem with mobility. Everyone's going to have a problem with mobility. You're going to suck up all of your aviation, basically covering them. And you don't solve the problem. I mean, the Iranians can lob missiles and drones at shipping in the straits of Hormuz over the head from, from pretty much anywhere in the Iranian hinterland. And Iran is a, it's a large country.

• 17:52Jack Murphy?

  I mean, in theory, right, the Saudis could provide the ground force that we would provide the air support for, which is, you know, what during the ISIS campaign, you know, there was American air power and almost, you know, entirely Arab and Kurdish ground forces with American advisors or coalition advisors. Do you think that's even a possibility? I mean, how do you rate the Saudi National Guard? Do you think they're up to a task like that?

• 18:19Speaker 06

  Are you, are you talking, are you talking the Straits of Hormuz or are you talking in Yemen?

• 18:24Jack Murphy?

  In Yemen.

• 18:26Speaker 06

  Oh, in Yemen?

• 18:29Speaker 06

  I, well, I, I think it's a problem of mobilization and getting them there right now. You know, the forces there that are roughly the anti-Houthis forces that the Saudis have been trying to get together.

• 18:44Speaker 06

  Are it's roughly equivalent to about five divisions. It's, you know, light divisions. So yeah, I mean, numbers vary, but maybe, um, you know, sixty thousand dudes, but they're not a homogeneous force. So I'm answering your question, but it was never on the cards for the Saudis to go back there and force. They're just not, you know, I'm not going to comment about whether, you know, did they have the capability. Frankly, they don't have the capability to deploy that right. You know, I mean, they've got to be, you've got to, the force, the land forces to include the National Guard are spread over the country right now. You've got to bring them together and then you've got to,

• 19:27Speaker 06

  uh, you've got to launch them down to into Yemen. There are, yes, Saudi Arabia has a history of operating in Yemen. There are task forces, joint task forces along the border. Um, there is, there is some scale of advice and assist effort taking place, but it's not advice and assist as we know it. It's more higher level commanders there Saudis directing Houthis on the ground. But to get a Saudi force there anytime soon is just not on the cards. I think that, but, but it's a good, your point's a good one. It's what I was referring to earlier, but there is at least some kind of ground force there that is fighting the

• 20:10Speaker 06

  Houthis and is now, you know, even as we speak, launching offensive to try and take Moka back. Um, which is obviously, you know, it's a separate proposition. Supporting that force, um, I'm saying potentially, yes, gives the air campaign a focus of, of effort that it didn't have before. And that's an argument to, to do this stuff in, in Yemen. But, but we were talking about that before was a ground operation in Iran, which I think we all agree, absolutely not at all practical.

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• 25:24Jack Murphy?

  You know, and how, how would you rate, um, you know, I know we're talking about hypotheticals right now, but how would you rate, um, purely an air campaign than over Yemen? And I mean, how would that be different? Or would it be different from, uh, the air campaign over Iran where we blow up a lot of stuff, but

• 25:43Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:43Jack Murphy?

  We haven't, we haven't, um, we've diminished, but not prevented Iranian capacity to fight.

• 25:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, I, well, we, we weren't successful in Yemen either. I mean,

• 25:55Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 25:56Speaker 06

  Hey, it's incredible. You know, you've got to, and I'm not eulogizing the Houthis, but you've got to hand it to them. They've been, they've taken the best, the best shellacking that the three most technologically advanced militaries in the world can deliver. The Brits, us, and the Israelis, and, and us multiple times. And they, and they've just gone on advancing. I, you know, I mean, and not only that, but now they're, they're threatening the countries around them and demanding that they be asked permission for commercial aircraft to enter, you know, Saudi as. I mean, the, the dudes are, they're technologically advanced as we talked about on this program beyond what anyone thinks. They're using AI for

• 26:40Speaker 06

  the missile guidance. Missile guidance that we've seen here has been very accurate. They're a formidable enemy. So getting back to your, your question, you know, how would we be more successful this time? I'm not sure we could be. I, what I am saying is that it is easier now when you are supporting a ground force, you know, memories of the SDF, right? Um, it's easier for a number of reasons, uh, because you, you have someone, you, the, the Houthis have to show up and fight this force. And when they show up and fight, it makes themselves vulnerable. They can't simply disperse. The fight going on right now vicinity of Bam and Moka anchors the Houthis to the terrain and thus conceptually makes them easier

• 27:26Speaker 06

  targets, right? And of course, we would be going after.

• 27:30Speaker 06

  Primarily though their missile launches, radars, anti-ship missiles, you know, I mean, the, the, first of all, we would be stripping their air defense, uh, and they've got, they've shut down, they've, I mean, you may have the numbers, they've shut down a lot of, we've lost a lot of high-end drones over Yemen. So their air defense systems aren't shite. We'd have to get rid of those and then go after their launches.

• 27:55Jack Murphy?

  And, and our, our primary goal really, like to get to cut right down to it, it's to prevent them from imposing these costs on Saudi Arabia. I mean, that's really, yeah.

• 28:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, exactly. And, and you know, we, we're saying, we've said twice, hey, we can't help you. Now potentially we can, i- if, if the escalation, if, you know, if the, our continued war against Iran is separated by time. Um, and, and, uh, and then there's kind of the political, political dynamic of, in the views of those in the Middle East, I'm generalizing here, United States responds to Israeli requests for help, but not to Arab requests for help. Okay. Not saying that's the case. I'm just saying that is the perception here in the Middle East.

• 28:41Speaker 05

  Seems like the case.

• 28:42Speaker 06

  Well, I, yeah, it does, isn't it? I mean, you know, so, um, I, I don't think, okay, it's hypothetical, but if Israel had been hit three times in a row, inflicting those type of casualties, and Netanyahu said to Trump, hey, help us, we need your help. Can you, can you strike targets in Yemen?

• 29:04Speaker 05

  I mean, at minimum, we'd probably be flying sorties to knock out ballistic missiles.

• 29:08Speaker 06

  I'm pretty sure we'd be doing something. Okay. Anyway, so my point is, I, look, I, I'm, and I'm not just saying this because of where I am, but, um, arguably it makes good sense. But the thing is that Jack's got a good point too. What could we achieve by an air campaign that we couldn't before? And I would, my argument would be, well, potentially now supporting a ground campaign. Yes, we begin with air defenses. We go after the long-range missile launches. Uh, but we also, by the way, go after anti-ship missile sites too. So the BAM doesn't become a huge issue again. Um, and you know, the Houthis are

• 29:49Speaker 06

  right now fighting hard around Bab al-Mandeb. Um, and, and so they are, as I've said, kind of they're preoccupied around the open. It might be a good time to do this. Um, so that would be, you know, that would be kind of phase zero. Uh, and then I suppose after the midterms, you know, resorting to escalation of, of the war again against Iran, uh, if, um, if Iran hasn't showed signs of negotiating, because as we talked about again on the show, we're not going to open the Straits of Hormuz by military force alone, not in a real sense. Because when you're talking about commercial shipping and insurance and all of that other

• 30:33Speaker 06

  stuff, oil prices are going to remain sky high. Uh, I don't know if you've been seeing how much it costs now to get a tanker through the Straits. It's, it's phenomenal, right? So all those costs are going to remain high, even if every single tanker is escorted and, um, the, the risk remains, as long as the risk remains until the Iranians say they're going to take their foot off the gas. No, that's unfortunate metaphor there, but, um, in, until they say they're going to stop hitting tankers and they agree to a negotiated solution, those prices are going to remain high. It's all good news.

• 31:08Speaker 05

  As usual.

• 31:11Speaker 05

  Only, only good news here on the Eyes on Geopolitics podcast. Um, do you guys want to hit on, um, Trump making a deal with Putin for diesel? Um, it's interesting too, cause like we're talking about Saudi Arabia and us helping Saudi Arabia with the Houthis, and we're probably not going to do anything due to the midterm elections, um, our midterm elections. It seems like this move with Russia outside of Trump being like Putin's, for lack of a better word, lackey. Um, he's doing it to probably ease some tensions before the midterm elections in terms of what the diesel price is here in America and stuff like that. But while, you know, it seems like a cheap move, you know, he was in that

• 31:53Speaker 05

  same, uh, press conference or ga- or press gaggle, Andy, that you mentioned before, where people asked him about Saudi Arabia and he said, you'll see. He also mentioned that, uh, when they asked about like, why are you buying or why are you making a deal with Russia to buy their diesel? Um, because you need to, and he, he basically blames Zelensky and said, uh, he needs to stop bombing their refineries and Ukraine needs to find a new leader. And, you know, anybody with a, you know, a working frontal lobe, uh, can see that this, that kind of, that, that kind of talks crazy. Uh, so I want to know what you guys are thinking in terms of what we heard the other day about the diesel.

• 32:39Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. I, I mean, I did hear or did read that, um, the amount of diesel is such a drop in the bucket that they're ostensibly buying from Russia, that it's really not going to make any impact on the market at all. Uh, but it's, the administration probably already got their objective, um, accomplished, which was a day's worth of headlines. Um, they, they already did that. Um, as far as this, this stuff with Ukraine, I mean, you have to think that the Ukrainians are becoming

• 33:12Jack Murphy?

  inured to American threats at this point. Like, you, you know, that we've been threatening those since the beginning of this administration. We keep threatening them with stuff and Iranian, or I'm sorry, the Ukrainians, uh, continue to be able to fight and impose these economic costs on the Russians. I mean, why, why would they stop? And, you know, if the United States government isn't going to help out Ukraine, then, you know, what, what is the leverage? What is the, the threat that you're kind of holding over their head?

• 33:41Speaker 06

  Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know in the great scheme of things, whether the, you know, the amount, the numbers they're talking about are huge, but it seems like a lot, you know? I mean, it's originally, it starts 300,000 tons immediately, then half a million tons in early November. Um, and then, um, three million more within a short period.

• 34:08Speaker 06

  It's the messaging, right? That is just so embarrassing right now. You know, Russia, it, it's, it's been reported for some time and, and the president has acknowledged that Russia is helping Iran with its targeting. Here we are amassing this force in the Middle East. We have been at war now for what? Eight months against Iran. Russia has, along with China, been Iran's biggest supporters, uh, materially as far as oil and also technologically, um, as far as, you know, the, the agreements on Shahar drones, the Russians have been improving,

• 34:48Speaker 06

  Shahar guidance systems, blah, blah, blah, et cetera. Um, and, uh, also with intelligence, without targeting of US, uh, US forces in the region. And then here we are now cutting a deal with the major benefactor of our enemy while we're at war. I, I just can't, whatever way you look at that, it's very hard to make sense of. And I, I don't know what the spin has, has been from, uh, the president's, um, from the government, but to me that's, that's hard to swallow.

• 35:26Jack Murphy?

  They've said since the beginning that, you know, they always wanted Russia as a trade partner. They didn't care about Ukraine or any of this other stuff, that the primary was Russia as a trade partner. Um, I mean, there's a lot, there's a lot, I could probably say some things that upset some people, but I mean.

• 35:42Speaker 05

  Please, please do.

• 35:43Jack Murphy?

  Well, I, I mean, I think the Trump family sees Russia for, you know, the Russian government for what it is. It's, it's a big grift. There's a lot of corruption. And so there's a lot of graft that the Trump family can get involved in there. Um, if they can open that up as a, a, a trade partnership up, um, through Putin's regime. I, I mean, I think, deep down, that's what this is really about.

• 36:06Speaker 05

  Well, early on, when they were talking about like peace talks and stuff like that, they sent Kushner and, and Wickoff and there was rumors about.

• 36:12Jack Murphy?

  Patel this last week, didn't they?

• 36:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, that too. But like initially, they were talking initially about like when the Nord, when the Nord Stream two po- uh, pipeline starts up again, who's going to have a piece of that? And they were basically like, at least that's the rumors that, that's what the conversation was about. Um, and again, Cash Patel, like why the director of the FBI needs to go to Russia? Uh, I don't know.

• 36:34Jack Murphy?

  Especially when we don't care about counterintelligence anymore.

• 36:37Speaker 05

  Right.

• 36:38Speaker 06

  Yeah. I mean, so obviously the, the direct incentive has to do with the midterms, right? I mean, diesel, I haven't been back in the States. I'm told diesel's almost doubled in price, price in the last year.

• 36:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think it's around seven bucks a gallon.

• 36:55Speaker 06

  And, um, yeah, so, so at least 70, 80% up, right? Um, and now Hormuz closed, largely closed to traffic, Gulf refinery output is cut off, uh, and Houthi and Iraqi militia attacks have hit the Saudi East-West pipeline. Um, so all of that's affected the prices. And, and so midterms, yeah, diesel prices hit, you know, who do they hit? They hit truckers, farmers, small businesses, all of which are core Trump constituencies, right? Just three weeks bein', with three weeks before the midterms, um, his economic approval

• 37:37Speaker 06

  is at a low. I would say all of those are factors in this decision. Um, but, you know, Jack, to your point, I, I'm no expert, but I, I know, I, I mean, I was reading, you, you know, obviously the experts agree with you, or rather, of course, the experts agree with you. You are one of them, is what I meant. Um.

• 37:58Jack Murphy?

  Kind of need to quote that on, uh, my next book.

• 38:01Speaker 06

  Uh, you know, that this isn't enough volume, right? Um, it, it's still like, even with all of this, e- even with all that supply to Russia, uh, refined diesel supply, I mean, I'm sorry, even getting all this diesel from Russia, um, incoming diesel supply is about half the pre-war levels because of, uh, because Gulf refining has been cut off. Um, and, uh, you know, it, aside from, in return though, you know, and aside from the fact that it's,

• 38:40Speaker 06

  it's kind of saluting Moscow again, it helps Moscow ease its revenue squeeze, which arguably is, I mean, is, is far tighter than ours. Um.

• 38:53Speaker 06

  So yeah, just hard to hard to see a good a good justification. I mean, especially last month, right? The president signed a Russian sanctions law.

• 39:08Speaker 05

  Was that the Lindsey Graham Beard Act or whatever it was?

• 39:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was targeting banks and the shadow fleet. It was banning new investment. And it was and it was imposing tariffs up to I up to 100% on the top five importers of Russian energy, right? And here we are. Now we're one of them. I don't know. What are we going to do? Sanction ourselves? Just weeks, you know, weeks later, the treasury's licensing Russian diesel into global markets. So, you know, I mean, does that undermine? Does that mean the tariffs due this month are gonna be imposed at all?

• 39:49Jack Murphy?

  Speaking of our friends, the Russians, there's something I wanted to point out here. There's a new book out. I have not read this yet, but I'm looking forward to it. It looks really good. It's written by two 60 Minutes journalists, and they worked on a story for 60 minutes about Havana syndrome. And now they've written this book. And yeah, I'm really looking forward to reading it. It looks like they cover a lot of ground in here, including some stuff I don't know about. So yeah, I'm looking forward to reading this one.

• 40:21Speaker 06

  Has has Mark seen that?

• 40:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, Mark pointed it out to us in the group chat. Yeah. Yeah, he wanted us to have him on the team house, the journalist, which

• 40:30Speaker 06

  That would be good. With special Mark on that, too.

• 40:34Speaker 05

  I have. There's a question from the chat. Will this orange turd even matter when he loses the midterms? I mean, I guess it depends on how badly he loses the midterms, and it also depends on if the Democrats are fucking not pussies.

• 40:45Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I mean, he's still the president of the United States, so it still matters. But, you know, yeah, there's something, too, that that like, will the system be completely jammed up after midterms? And like, functionally, it's kind of the done, it's kind of the end of the administration, in the sense that they're not going to pass anything further through.

• 41:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, but Jack, frankly, they're not really passing much anyway, like.

• 41:08Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, they're just making decisions and then seeing if the courts challenge them.

• 41:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's doing, he's ruling by executive order, essentially. I mean, he did pass some stuff, you know, the Epstein Act passed. They're they're in contempt of Congress for that right there. You know, they're not really following acts of Congress. And it remains to be seen because let's say the Democrats take the House by a lot, and they have a solid majority. And let's say it's razor thin in the Senate. Will, and they try to put up impeachment proceedings on him, which is probably, you know, in violation of them, like he could easily get some impeachment hearings on him and stuff like that, or charges on him. Will the Senate actually convict, even with a majority Democratic? Like, if let's say it's 51, 49 Democrats, Democrats are spineless. Like, let's be real, they are spineless. They

• 41:55Speaker 05

  are not an opposition party. They're a joke. They're a complete joke.

• 42:00Speaker 05

  So I don't know, he'd probably be able to do whatever he wants to do. Still, he'll probably be able to, you know, govern by executive order and, you know, and if the courts say, okay, no, like, will they even listen to the courts? Will they even listen to Congress? They're not right now, currently. He signed a bill into law, and they're actively in contempt of Congress. So, yeah, he'll still matter, is the answer to that question.

• 42:26Speaker 06

  You know, I mean, there was an interesting aspect to that phone call that I don't know it'll come to anything, but, you know, Putin basically acted as though he has the leverage, which I suppose he does. We've given it to him. But he, you know, Bozeshkian has said publicly that he is refusing talks, right? But then privately, he's passing terms through Putin, through Moscow. And Putin apparently, you know, brought this up in the phone call. We don't know what those terms are, but it was essentially an Iranian, an Iranian offer.

• 43:10Speaker 06

  So, you know, that tells you at least Iran wants to wants an off-ramp. The the the problem is that, of course, we don't, we don't necessarily acknowledge this, but they're not going to acknowledge that publicly. I mean, faces everything. So there might be something that comes out of positive that comes out of this, this phone call me. I mean, I'm trying to, I'm grasping the silver linings here because we have been accused of being ultimate pessimists. I think we've lost 20% of our audience, which was five, maybe six people.

• 43:51Jack Murphy?

  Well, something else that I'll throw out, this is a more abstract academic conversation, perhaps, than what we're willing to have. But I just finished reading this book, which was very good. It's Legitimacy in Liberal Democracies. The book is basically like some of the clearest political writing I've read about democracy in America today and where it stands. And it's basically talking about how in highly pluralistic societies, governments have to come up with all these different legitimation stories, like basically creation myths about themselves. And the end result is a sort of like gridlock, that nothing gets

• 44:36Jack Murphy?

  done. And so there's this interesting thesis that, you know, we think about revolution, revolt, insurgency. Well, what if things just kind of continue to slog along and get stupider and stupider? And the system is just totally in gridlock and nothing ever gets done. And that seems actually like the most honest and realistic scenario for the future that I that I've heard. It's not, it's not a revolution. It's in this, in this book, he makes the point, revolutions and revolts can't happen in a country like America, because democracy is so deeply embedded in the society that people cannot imagine a different type of government.

• 45:18Speaker 06

  I, so I would say I would agree with him on the thesis that

• 45:25Speaker 06

  that revolution isn't possible in the United States, but not for the reasons that he's given. Actually, democracy is not well entrenched in the United States. I think, I think the bias has always been anti-democratic, you know, in real terms, right? And we only became a democracy very, very recently. And I'm concerned, my, my feeling may be, when you think about it, I mean, the American experiment, as among, among Western governments, is essentially the, I mean, in many ways, the newest and was, I'm just wording this carefully. Let's take most Western democracies right in Europe.

• 46:09Speaker 06

  They're what they have now, the system that has evolved over century after century, right? They don't have, with a couple of exceptions, they don't have constitutions, right? It's been a, it's been a constant kind of back and forth until, until a path was chosen that people by and large realize works best, right? You know, I mean, you take the UK, you had people pushing back on the monarchy, you know, with the Magna Carta, but it took many, you know, they're still pushing back on the monarchy, you know, and it was, it was gradual evolution. In the US, you had this thing called the Constitution that people keep trying to interpret. And you had this method of government, but you have, in a, and again,

• 46:54Speaker 06

  I'm going to be critique for this, essentially, in many ways, very immature sense of thinking among the population. I can't put my finger on it. It's more than formal education. It might just be a result of the fact that the country has evolved relatively recently from people who've come from all over the place. You know, there isn't any sense of historical progression. Okay, we tried this or tried that, that we haven't, you know, since, since our ill-fated, our unwise decision to throw off the British, we haven't really toyed with revolution in the same way that, you know, other countries have. So my, I,

• 47:34Speaker 06

  anyway, long-winded way of saying this, my concern, I agree with the thesis, I agree that, that things are just becoming more and more dysfunctional. And I agree that this is not likely to result in revolution, because we are small c, essentially a very conservative society, small c, right? But my concern is that there's no end to the dysfunction. You know, we keep thinking, we just got to get through this four years. Do we? Well, then what? All kinds of, all kinds of precedents have been set, not good precedents in this, under this government, in this administration, right? Or, you know,

• 48:17Speaker 06

  I mean, you can take it back. If you're talking about this, let's just take it beyond this administration going back. Let's talk about Congress's, you know, we talk about this a lot, Congress's ability, Congress's responsibility to oversee the conduct of wars, right? We've already seen that erode for the last two to three decades. It's not going to suddenly get stronger. It's not as though there's suddenly going to be a, hey, listen, we got to go back to what we're supposed to do by the Constitution. We've seen executive powers grow increasingly, right? Simply because of that vacuum. We've seen the two-party system,

• 48:55Speaker 06

  I would argue, become, and, you know, again, I'd be critique for this, but both parties, by the standards of any European parliamentary political system, both parties are far right wing, right? But at the same time, we've seen the divisiveness between them that that doesn't, doesn't allow, doesn't broker any type of, that that puts party first before any sense of, you know, how is all that going to be reconciled? It's not, you know, it's not, none of this, these are deep cultural issues.

• 49:34Speaker 06

  And and you know, maybe we have to say the American experiment is not working. The American experiment, government, government, governmental experiment, and people will attack me. Oh, no, of course it is. The Supreme Court's doing X and X. It is to a certain extent, but that's not the way the Supreme Court is acting now, or the courts are acting now as a check on the executive, as the first check on the executive isn't the way the system was supposed to be designed.

• 50:02Jack Murphy?

  Well, he points out in the book also that, you know, despair sets in in the individual at a certain point as these legitimation stories fail one after the other. Um, the person sinks into essentially doomerism.

• 50:17Speaker 06

  Apathy.

• 50:18Speaker 05

  Apathy.

• 50:21Jack Murphy?

  That you completely have lost faith in the system and the institutions of government and the capacity for reform. But he also points out that those people are atomized. When someone becomes a doomer, they're, you know, camped out in their parents' basement, playing video games. They are not out on the street organizing. They are not at the beer hall trying to rally the troops to go and overthrow the government. So again, no- nothing actually changes.

• 50:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, I, I mean, I think, I think he's absolutely right. Think what's, you know, whatever your criticisms of France, I know they're, you know, of course, I, I mean, I've got.

• 50:59Jack Murphy?

  They have a protest culture.

• 51:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, they've got a protest. Look what's happened, happening now in the schools, right? They're kind of Bill of Rights, I mean, what they're demanding. It, it all makes sense. The, I mean, and all those things that they're talking about. That basically the atrophy, the erosion of the education system across the board in France are things you would talk to any teacher, things that are happening here. But we're not going to see, you know, those, the, that, those level of protests are not, I'm not, I'm not countenancing violence, but I'm saying even, you know, the walkouts the, from all the, the high schools across countries, all the Lysays, all the teachers and students on the same side this

• 51:43Speaker 06

  in, and, and making demands. And I, and you know what? It will result in something. Yes, you, you can see the, all the, the, you know, backlash now, but the, all the videos of the riot police shooting gas canisters in the face of fourteen year olds and everything. It's going to result in changes. It's a painful way to do it. Again, I'm not countenancing violence. I'm talking about the demonstrations themselves. You'd never see that here. In fact, there's a, there's a revulsion. There's a, the, the people who do demonstrate are reviled. You know, I mean, that's why when you saw those yahoos coming out on the side of ice. I,

• 52:25Speaker 06

  it's, yeah, so I, I mean, I do agree with, uh, I just don't agree with the, the why, but I agree with his.

• 52:33Jack Murphy?

  Well,

• 52:34Speaker 05

  The way we're gonna try and make this more optimistic.

• 52:36Jack Murphy?

  He, he sort of ends on the note that

• 52:41Jack Murphy?

  crises come about, but they don't go on long enough. Um, and they're not acute enough to, um, the point that the American public really rises up, um, that they do end up getting mitigated. You think of like the two thousand and eight economic crisis, nine eleven. I mean, there's a bunch of things you could throw in there, I suppose. Um, but he points out that, you know, there could be a trigger point in the future, whether started by a natural disaster or a pandemic or a war or AI getting out of control. So who knows what it could be, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't really matter. But that a crisis is initiated and the government cannot respond quickly enough because of what we were talking about, that nothing changes, that everything's locked up,

• 53:25Jack Murphy?

  that it can't be flexible or adaptable enough. And that could really actually lead to something like collapse.

• 53:31Speaker 05

  Then the only way that happens is if, like, uh, what our pacifiers are taken away. Like, the NFL season is, is canceled, or, you know, you can't get your Grubhub delivery.

• 53:44Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, it's like dur- during the pandemic, my, my, uh, canary in the coal mine was McDonald's. As long as McDonald's is open, we're good to go. If McDonald's shuts down, bro, it's time to leave the country. Get out of here.

• 53:56Speaker 05

  Yeah. I wish people were as like passionate as they were about like, you know, their football team. You know, there's a reason why twenty five million people or more watch a single football game in America.

• 54:09Jack Murphy?

  So it's interesting. So in the book, he also talks about how, um, as politics are failing people, they kind of resort back to other things, um, like their faith, their family. And one of the things he lists in there is fandom. That people retreat into these fandoms and that private corporations provide a sort of narrative, a narrative glue, and even a narrative story. If you think about like superhero movies and stuff like that, Star Wars, and people attach themselves to these franchises, um, like, like it's a very personal thing for them. And so fandom is, is one of the things that people retreat into as politics fail.

• 54:50Speaker 06

  Fandom, that's a great term. It is very true, isn't it? And to your point, yes, it's almost a, it's almost pathetic, isn't it? The obsession.

• 55:02Jack Murphy?

  Yes, it is.

• 55:02Speaker 05

  When you think about it, yeah.

• 55:04Speaker 06

  Uh, and, and I, and it is true that, you know, I think even back, looking back to the US military, it doesn't matter what was going on in the world. Um, but most officers in the morning will talk about the game they watched the night before. You know, I've worked with militaries all over the world, the French, the Brits, the Israelis are not like that. You know, they, they were, of course, they'll, you know, the, the Israelis not at all, the French not so much, but the Brits a little bit will talk about. But they will talk about geopolitics way more than their US counterparts. You know, have you ever, if you, if you like the conversations we have had in this discussion, if you bring that up in the, the average group of military officers, they will, you will quickly get deflected.

• 55:49Speaker 06

  Right? And it's not that we're arguing in a partisan way, but if you're just talking general terms about what's going on in the world. And, and if they do offer an opinion, it's often, often very simplistic. Not a lot of deep thought or reading often. I'm generalizing here. And of course, marine officers are a cut above the rest, but, um, but, but, you know, that's symptomatic of the culture at large. It is, it's, it never ceases to amaze me how grown adults become so emotionally attached to football teams. You know, they have, they have real lives going on outside that. I mean, they've got, you know, children, families, you know, professions, but they all talk endlessly about

• 56:31Speaker 06

  where, you know, last night's game. I've always found that a little sad.

• 56:36Speaker 05

  I think it's to a point, right? Like, uh, I'm a fan of teams. I don't really care much except for like hockey, right? So there's one team I enjoy, and that's the New York Rangers and

• 56:47Speaker 05

  you know, I like them, I hope they win, but it's not like my be all, end all. It's not everything I need it to be. And it's like my, my whole personality, right? Uh, I think a lot of the times people make the mistake.

• 56:59Speaker 06

  You don't wear hockey jerseys with your favorite player's name on them.

• 57:02Speaker 05

  And no pants, no.

• 57:05Speaker 05

  Just a hockey jersey. No, no, I don't. Uh, so I, I mean, I do see, I see my fri- friends of mine too, and, and I don't know. I, it's just, it's interesting how I guess people don't care as much about like the real issues as they care about like their running back who's starting for their fantasy team.

• 57:26Jack Murphy?

  It's hard. Um, it's very hard to live in, in the sort of like, you know, ideal that we're describing here. Um, no one, really no one lives a life of empiricism.

• 57:36Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 57:37Jack Murphy?

  You know, no, no one does because it's too painful. It's too difficult to do that. So, you know, we all.

• 57:43Speaker 06

  This particular podcast.

• 57:46Jack Murphy?

  Right, but this podcast is contained like in an hour of our lives, you know, um, after this.

• 57:52Speaker 06

  I think about it all week.

• 57:54Jack Murphy?

  After this, I can be, you know, painting Dungeons and Dungeons and Dragons miniatures, you know, that I've, I've these like weird hobbies that have nothing to do with, uh, with politics. And I think everybody kind of has to have something like that, whether it's watching a basketball game or whatever it is.

• 58:10Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 58:11Jack Murphy?

  Um, because it's just so painful to like live in a world where, um, we have to mentally juggle these profound philosophical and political issues on a daily basis. It's, it's hard. It's, I mean, let's admit it to ourselves. Like, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on in the world and we're bombarded with this information all day, every day. Uh, and it's not great for anyone's mental health. I don't care how smart or how responsible you are.

• 58:39Speaker 06

  Hundred percent. Escape, escapism absolutely necessary. But when escapism becomes everything and you're in your second reality, that is disturbing. When, and when that's all you can talk about. That, it's.

• 58:54Speaker 05

  I think the problem in America specifically is also, uh, a lot of people are very much blackpilled. You know, there's a reason why a hundred million people don't vote, right? At a, like, even at the highest turnouts, there's still a hundred million people who are registered or, uh, or can vote, who do, don't vote. Um, I, and I think you talk to people and they're just like, oh, that shit doesn't matter. They're both the same shit. Like they, they're checked out completely from politics and geopolitics and issues.

• 59:24Speaker 06

  It gets to Jack's point about apathy, right? So the, the real question, I think, you know, Jack brings it up on the book, brings it up is when something extreme happens, right? When, when the system seems to be breaking down, people are pushing the limits in a bad way of, of the checks and balances. Does, does the, you know, the, do the, the people react correspondingly? If not by revolting, at least, at least dropping their apathy and showing up to vote. We don't know yet, you know? But I think, you know, to Jack's point, the, I, e- even if they do, the prospects are, are not great. I mean,

• 1:00:08Speaker 06

  The so many, so many boundaries have already been broken and the general shift has been in a negative way.

• 1:00:15Speaker 05

  Also, I think the way we teach kids now, you know, whether it's civics or whatever, just the basic stuff in terms of how the government works. Like, there's a reason why midterm elections are the slow elections. Because everyone's looking at top of the ticket. It's, it's kind of ingrained apathy.

• 1:00:34Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I mean, my, my black pill moment here, I would advance a controversial idea. If those hundred million people vote, I don't think it would substantially change the system in any meaningful way. If you increased enfranchisement to, um, let's say younger people like sixteen year olds. Um, I don't think that would make any substantial difference. Um, I mean, I, I, I think it's a little bit more than just, you know, voting. Um, there, there are these sort of like institutional problems.

• 1:01:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's no question. I mean, yeah.

• 1:01:10Speaker 06

  Yeah. It's more than voting and it's more than education about civics because I, there's, it's hard to put your finger on it, but there's just a, they, there is,

• 1:01:23Speaker 06

  there is an underlying, you know, it's hard to tell what comes first, but there's an underlying apathy in American society. And it gets back to Jack's point about not responding, you know, not really reacting when, when things start, when, when the whole process, the whole system shifts in a bad way and the checks and balances aren't working.

• 1:01:43Speaker 05

  I think it's been like a slow kind of burn in terms of like, like it's been going on for decades. Where like the erosion of like institutions and in a way where they don't make enough noise or news for people to react in certain ways, whether you see going away from the dollar or, or the gold standard, or where you see, you know, huge tax cuts and deregulation in the eighties or the bank deregulation in the nineties, like, or super PACs, right? With Citizens United, like these little things that have happened that don't really get huge headlines. Maybe they do in like the small, like the junkies, like the political junkies who, who follow this stuff like it's a sports team and they have their own fandom or own interest in it.

• 1:02:26Speaker 05

  And all that stuff has, has completely coupled, like has completely compiled to a place where most average people aren't going to know the intricacies of a specific Supreme Court case that, you know, hurt, hurt our, you know, gave super PACs almost unlimited, you know, effect on our, on our elections and stuff like that, and our politicians essentially. Uh, it's things like that where people are just like, and I understand that the worlds, they, the lives they live, like they're just trying to get by. Maybe they don't have the bandwidth to think about it or read the Wall Street Journal or whatever it is like, you know, take 20 minutes a day and like read up on the news and see what's going on.

• 1:03:10Speaker 05

  I think media literacy too is a huge, like people in America are extremely in a bad space in terms of how they digest their news and what they think they know and what they think is a reputable news source and isn't.

• 1:03:23Jack Murphy?

  We, uh, as Americans, we've kind of been trained to be docile consumers from an early age. And, you know, for us, politics is another fandom. Um, it's, you know, it, it has been pitched to us both by politicians and by the press and by the media. Um, as entertainment, that politics is this form of entertainment. It's this sort of cage match. It's this sort of.

• 1:03:46Speaker 05

  Horse race, right? You look at the polls. It's like, it's literally like football, like you're, like you're playing fantasy football.

• 1:03:53Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. And, and so I think that's, you know, why you see some of the cosplay in, in American politics is for that reason.

• 1:04:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's a great point. In, uh, I want to say more mature democracies, you don't see that to the same extent. You see it in, in, uh, Eastern Europe, you know, with some of the populist leaders there, you see it in Latin America, places like Brazil, of course, but, uh, Bolsonaro and Argentina. Um, but you don't see it so much in Western Europe.

• 1:04:26Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, my friends, my friend sometimes asks me like, what can you, what would you do if you had one choice? What would you pick? Like if you were king of the day of, uh, for the, for the day. And I'd be like, first things first, it would be getting unlimited money out of politics completely. If, if Elon Musk wants to make an ad about his preferred candidate, he absolutely could do it, but he needs to like literally be on the, on the thing being like, I am supporting this person. It shouldn't be some like, you know, some wedge issue and it's brought to you by, you know, somethingforamerica.org where nobody knows who it's from and stuff like that. The anonymous on, you know, uncapped money that's coming in is, is the biggest problem without question.

• 1:05:10Jack Murphy?

  I would pass a law, uh, against how long you can have a political campaign going. Um, so, so for like Congress, I'd be like three months and for president, six months and that's it. That's all you get. Sorry. We don't need, we don't need, you know, three hundred, you know, fifty days of campaigning a year.

• 1:05:29Speaker 05

  It's going to be more like, once the, once the midterms are over, presidential 2028 is kicking off.

• 1:05:36Jack Murphy?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:36Speaker 05

  Especially with the primaries first and stuff like that. It's a horse race for two years. Well, in Europe, they don't have that, like it's way shorter.

• 1:05:45Speaker 06

  They've got rules again, at least in the UK, there's rules against that. All right, fellas. Hey, on that high note, I'm going to have to jump off. So, um,

• 1:05:53Speaker 05

  All right, get that all out of here.

• 1:05:54Speaker 06

  Yeah, thank you, Andy. Conversation can go up. Great, great seeing you both again.

• 1:05:58Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, good talking to you.

• 1:06:00Speaker 05

  I want everyone to check out Andy's Substack. That link is in the description and his book, he's got a new book coming out as well. Uh, and there he goes. He muted him. Jack Murphy.

• 1:06:14Speaker 06

  I stay on because I'm eighty-one percent.

• 1:06:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. Stay on Andy and I'll just mute you.

• 1:06:20Speaker 05

  Ciao. Uh, The Most Dangerous Man, Jack's book is out now. Check it out. Of course, you want to check out Jack's, uh, Substack called The High Side. Him and Sean Naylor do investigative journalism of the highest standard. Um, anything else, Jack? We're going on a field trip this week.

• 1:06:40Jack Murphy?

  I was go, I was going to go apple picking today, but it got canceled because of the rain, doing a family thing. Um, so, yeah, so me and you will be down at, uh, AUSA this year, uh, the Association of the United States Army Conference down in DC. So, um, the next like three days we'll be down there.

• 1:07:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, we're going to be perusing the defense industrial complex. It'll be very exciting.

• 1:07:06Jack Murphy?

  And come and say hi to us if you're down there.

• 1:07:08Speaker 05

  If there are any Chinese or, uh, North Korean honeypots, I am more than available.

• 1:07:15Speaker 05

  I don't have secrets to give, but I have other things.

• 1:07:20Speaker 05

  No, it should be fun. It should be cool. There's a lot of drone companies out there. I know that. That's the one thing I know from signing up for this event. And you put your email onto that signup list. I've gotten in and like three hundred emails.

• 1:07:34Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, everything is drones and AI.

• 1:07:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. Like we, I'm going to keep saying the joke, podcasts are out for the white guy. Now it's drone companies. We got to start drone companies. That's the move. Jack, I love you. Thank you. And everybody who watched, thank you. We'll probably, I'm going to try, let's try and do this live stream maybe once a week. Maybe the midweek we'll do it.

• 1:07:54Jack Murphy?

  Okay.

• 1:07:55Speaker 05

  And shout out to Ver watches, vaerwatches.com/teamehouse.

• 1:07:59Speaker 06

  I noticed something in the, uh, in the chat here from a Mr. Well Hung, who says that he is in fact a Chinese honeypot. And he's going to be looking for you at AUSA.

• 1:08:12Speaker 05

  I can't wait. I can't wait to see him. I guess I should have said female honeypots would be preferable for me. I mean, I'm sure there's male ones out there that do a great job, but not for me.

• 1:08:22Jack Murphy?

  I heard, I heard the story years ago. Um, we'll get going, but real quick, this story about a, uh, it was a US American naval officer abroad somewhere. And he was staying in a hotel room and like, it wasn't in China, but it was like, you know, Vietnam or something like that. And someone came and knocked on their door and there's a Chinese prostitute at the door. And he's like, hey, no, thank you. Go away. Like fifteen minutes go by, there's another knock at the door. It's a different girl. Like, you know, first they send a blonde, then they send a redhead. And like, the people keep knocking on the door all night and he keeps like not answering or sending them away. And finally, at the end of the night, they send a dude.

• 1:09:04Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 1:09:05Jack Murphy?

  They're like, yeah.

• 1:09:06Speaker 05

  And he finally did it.

• 1:09:07Jack Murphy?

  We know what this guy's dealing with.

• 1:09:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, he finally succumbed to his passions. Couldn't help it anymore. He's like, finally, I didn't want to say that I wanted a guy, but.

• 1:09:15Speaker 06

  They obviously didn't do very good, uh, target reconnaissance. I mean, maybe officer, you should begin with a man.

• 1:09:24Speaker 05

  There's the marine causing trouble. All right, guys. Thank you, guys, for watching. Uh, yeah, this watch is a fricking nice watch. It's Ver. Going by, they're presenting sponsors for the Team House and Eyes On. So if you want to help support Eyes On and the Team House, go to ver.com/teamehouse. Links are in the description. I love you.

• 1:09:43Jack Murphy?

  Thanks, guys.

• 1:09:44Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:09:47Speaker 05

  Hello, everyone. If you're hearing this, uh, you are not a member of the Patreon. You can get your hands on ad-free episodes that come out early and you can ask us questions. Maybe we'll answer them. You can also watch the Team House podcast completely ad-free and early, and you can also watch it live as we interview our guests. Um, and it's the best way to support the channel. So if you can, if you're open to it, you can go to patreon.com/teamehouse. That link is in the description. Uh, we appreciate the supporters and we hope you would consider being one. So it's Patreon.

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• 1:27:29Speaker 03

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  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:28:47Speaker 04

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• 1:28:59Speaker 01

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:29:11Speaker 02

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• 1:30:37Speaker 03

  Outdoor deterrence plans start at $49.99 a month. Visit simplisafe.com/l licenses for alarm license information.

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  911 Nashville returns.

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  What's a homicide detective doing here? Three bodies on the ground.

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  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

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  Oh, sins swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

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• 1:33:05Jack Murphy?

  Unlike traditional alarm systems, SimpliSafe uses smart AI cameras that spot potential threats and alert live US-based agents to help stop a break-in before it starts. Our agents intervene in under 30 seconds to deter intruders while they're still outside, preventing them from getting close to your family. Plus, you control your privacy and recordings. And with a 60-day money-back guarantee, you can try us risk-free. Monitoring and deterrence plans start around $1 a day. Order today to get 60% off a new system with professional monitoring. Save now at simplisafe.com/iheartradio. SimpliSafe, ahead of crime, in real time.

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• 1:35:01Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:35:03Speaker 04

  There's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:35:06Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:35:09Speaker 04

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:35:16Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:35:29Speaker 02

  When intimate itch strikes, waiting it out isn't always an option. That's why there's Vagisil Maximum Strength Anti-Ich Cream. It provides fast relief from intense external feminine itching and burning. And 92% of women said Vagisil provided long-lasting itch relief. Intimate itch can have more than 60 causes. From everyday things like shaving, pads, tight clothing, to yeast-infection-related irritation, Vagisil helps protect delicate skin from further irritation. Trusted by generations, clinically and gynecologists tested. Don't let discomfort get in the way. Visit vagisil.com to find the relief that's right for you.

• 1:36:01Jack Murphy?

  Right now, you can save 60% on SimpliSafe home security. When an intruder approaches a home, they expect a camera. What they don't expect...

• 1:36:09Speaker 03

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• 1:36:14Jack Murphy?

  Unlike traditional alarm systems, SimpliSafe uses smart AI cameras that spot potential threats and alert live US-based agents to help stop a break-in before it starts. Our agents intervene in under 30 seconds to deter intruders while they're still outside, preventing them from getting close to your family. Plus, you control your privacy and recordings. And with a 60-day money-back guarantee, you can try us risk-free. Monitoring and deterrence plans start around $1 a day. Order today to get 60% off a new system with professional monitoring. Save now at simplisafe.com/iheartradio. SimpliSafe: Ahead of Crime in Real Time.

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• 1:37:01Speaker 06

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• 1:38:10Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:38:13Speaker 04

  There's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:38:16Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:38:19Speaker 04

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:38:26Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:38:38Speaker 02

  When intimate itch strikes, waiting it out isn't always an option. That's why there's Vagisil Maximum Strength Anti-Ich Cream. It provides fast relief from intense external feminine itching and burning. And 92% of women said Vagisil provided long-lasting itch relief. Intimate itch can have more than 60 causes. From everyday things like shaving, pads, tight clothing, to yeast-infection-related irritation, Vagisil helps protect delicate skin from further irritation. Trusted by generations, clinically and gynecologists tested. Don't let discomfort get in the way. Visit vagisil.com to find the relief that's right for you.

• 1:39:10Jack Murphy?

  Right now, you can save 60% on SimpliSafe home security. Traditional security systems only alert you after a break-in has already happened, and that's too late. SimpliSafe is changing that.

• 1:39:24Speaker 03

  Stop, this is SimpliSafe. You're being monitored and recorded. I'm requesting police dispatch.

• 1:39:29Jack Murphy?

  Using the Outdoor Camera Series 2 and Advanced AI Alerts, our live US-based agents identify potential threats on your property and help deter them. So the intruder never gets into your house. The break-in never happens. Because we don't just alert, we stop crime before it starts. SimpliSafe monitoring and deterrence plans start around $1 a day with no long-term contracts. Order today to get 60% off a new system with professional monitoring. Save now at simplisafe.com/iheartradio. SimpliSafe: Ahead of Crime in Real Time.

• 1:40:05Speaker 03

  Outdoor deterrence plans start at $49.99 a month. Visit simplisafe.com/licenses for alarm license information.

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• 1:40:41Jack Murphy?

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• 1:41:19Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:41:22Speaker 04

  There's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:41:25Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:41:28Speaker 04

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:41:35Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:41:47Speaker 02

  When intimate itch strikes, waiting it out isn't always an option. That's why there's Vagisil Maximum Strength Anti-Ich Cream. It provides fast relief from intense external feminine itching and burning. And 92% of women said Vagisil provided long-lasting itch relief. Intimate itch can have more than 60 causes. From everyday things like shaving, pads, tight clothing, to yeast-infection-related irritation, Vagisil helps protect delicate skin from further irritation. Trusted by generations, clinically and gynecologists tested. Don't let discomfort get in the way. Visit vagisil.com to find the relief that's right for you.

• 1:42:19Jack Murphy?

  Right now, you can save 60% on SimpliSafe home security. Traditional security systems only alert you after a break-in has already happened, and that's too late. SimpliSafe is changing that.

• 1:42:33Speaker 03

  Stop, this is SimpliSafe. You're being monitored and recorded. I'm requesting police dispatch.

• 1:42:38Jack Murphy?

  Using the Outdoor Camera Series 2 and Advanced AI Alerts, our live US-based agents identify potential threats on your property and help deter them. So the intruder never gets into your house. The break-in never happens. Because we don't just alert, we stop crime before it starts. SimpliSafe monitoring and deterrence plans start around $1 a day with no long-term contracts. Order today to get 60% off a new system with professional monitoring. Save now at simplisafe.com/iheartradio. SimpliSafe: Ahead of Crime in Real Time.

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• 1:44:28Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:44:30Speaker 04

  There's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:44:34Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:44:36Speaker 04

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:44:43Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

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• 1:46:05Jack Murphy?

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