392: Murdered USF Students, D4vd 40TB of Evidence & Influencer Dies After Proposal

This week on Headline Highlights: Makayla Settles’ father will not be charged with what many were hoping for due to insufficient evidence without her testimony, and the case is moving forward on lesser charges despite DNA evidence and earlier felony arrests. Celeste Rivas Hernandez was confirmed to have been murdered by multiple injuries and dismemberment, while the case against David Anthony Burke (d4vd) continues to expand with large amounts of digital evidence. Ashly Robinson, known as Ashlee Janae, was found dead in her Zanzibar villa days after a birthday trip and safari proposal. USF students Zamil Limon and Nahida Bristy were found dead after going missing from his apartment. And in Wilmer, Alabama, Lisa Fields, her pregnant daughter Keziah, and her son Thomas were found bound and murdered in their home while a baby was left unharmed.. If you’re new here, don’t forget to follow the show for weekly deep dives into the darkest true crime cases! To watch the video version of this episode, head over to youtube.com/@annieelise. .🔎Join Our True Crime Club & Get Exclusive Content & Perks..🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to both of my weekly true crime series 10 to Life & Serialously with Annie Elise wherever you get your podcasts on the Annie Elise Channel!🍎 Apple Podcasts | Where you can also unlock access to 100+ and growing extra exclusive deep dives.💚 Spotify🔴 YouTube🎙️ All Other Platforms.📸 Follow Annie on Socials Instagram: @_annieeliseTikTok: @_annieeliseSubstack: @annieeliseFacebook: @10toLife.👗 Shop Annie’s Must-Haves! ShopMY: bit.ly/AnnieElise_ShopMy Amazon: bit.ly/AnnieElise_Amazon.🫵🏻 Get Involved or Recommend a CaseAbout Annie: www.annieelise.comFor Business Inquiries: [email protected].📚 Episode Sources ABC News | ABC 6 | ABC 7 Chicago | AL | BBC | CBS News | CNN | FOX LA | Fox 8 | Glamour | KTVU | Law & Crime | NBC | New York Post | People | TMZ | USF Doctoral Students Murdered | WDAM | WFLA | WKRG••••••••••••••••••🚨Disclaimers1️⃣ Some links may be affiliate links, they do not cost you anything, but I make a small percentage from the sale. Thank you so much for watching and supporting me. 2️⃣ Sources used to collect this information include various public news sites, interviews, court documents, FB groups dedicated to the case, and various news channel segments. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember my videos are my independent opinion and to always do your own research. 3️⃣ The views and opinions expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. Assumptions made in the analysis are not reflective of the position of any entity other than the creator(s). These views are subject to change, revision, and rethinking at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. We make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the reader’s responsibility to verify their own facts.

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• 1:16Annie Elise?

  Hey, true crime besties. Welcome back to an all-new episode of Serial Sleep.

• 1:39Annie Elise?

  Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to an all-new episode of Serial Sleep, your favorite true crime podcast. Happy Thursday. I hope you're having a good week today. It's Thursday, like I just said, hello. So today means it is headline highlights day, where we are going to break down everything happening in the true crime world together. And not just together, not just you and me, my friend. Or is it you and I? I don't even know. Grammar police come for me. But you, me, and Dupree. No, I'm just kidding. You, me, and Amy. Have you seen that movie?

• 2:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:13Annie Elise?

  You mean Dupree?

• 2:14Speaker 05

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• 2:16Annie Elise?

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• 2:17Annie Elise?

  Heller.

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• 2:20Annie Elise?

  Guys.

• 2:22Annie Elise?

  I don't even know what to say. What do we say?

• 2:23Speaker 05

  What do we need to catch up on right now?

• 2:25Annie Elise?

  A lot. I feel, well, no, eh, no. I went back to the long nails.

• 2:32Speaker 05

  Oh, I actually like those.

• 2:33Annie Elise?

  But I got a mom haircut, so it balances each other out.

• 2:36Speaker 05

  And I saw you posted earlier this week, a poll online. What, what's it trending?

• 2:41Annie Elise?

  The people want dark hair. So

• 2:44Speaker 05

  I had a feeling.

• 2:45Annie Elise?

  Dark hair is happening at 12:00 PM today.

• 2:48Speaker 05

  Oh, today?

• 2:48Annie Elise?

  It is.

• 2:49Speaker 05

  Oh, my goodness.

• 2:50Annie Elise?

  I know. It's a big change. It's a big life change.

• 2:53Speaker 05

  Not really. You've gone like black.

• 2:54Annie Elise?

  I know. And I'll like probably be like back to platinum blonde in like six months and my hairdresser will murder me.

• 3:00Speaker 05

  I'm actually on the verge of a new do as well, coming in a couple of weeks. So stay tuned.

• 3:05Annie Elise?

  What do you do?

• 3:06Speaker 05

  You know me, a big change is like, I've added some highlights.

• 3:09Annie Elise?

  You're gonna get like a half an inch trim. No way, O'Brien.

• 3:12Speaker 05

  You'll just have to wait and see.

• 3:14Annie Elise?

  Okay, so before we get into today's cases, I do want to give you guys a little bit of some exciting news. As you know, we are about like a month out from Crime Con, which Crime Con is going to be in Vegas this year at the historic Caesar's Palace. I wanted to put in a hangover quote there. Like where the, like a bank of payphones or what the hell to say? I don't even know. But like where he's like, did Caesar really live here?

• 3:41Speaker 05

  Oh, I don't.

• 3:43Annie Elise?

  When he's like, they're checking in, he's all, so did Caesar really live here? And he's all, do you have a phone I could borrow? Like a bank of phones or like a payphone bank or whatever.

• 3:52Speaker 05

  God, that's a classic. We kind of need to.

• 3:54Annie Elise?

  I used to be able to quote the whole thing. That was like my drunk movie when I'd get home from the bars every, every day.

• 4:00Speaker 05

  You're like, every day.

• 4:02Annie Elise?

  I knew it by heart. But anyway, it's going to be at Caesar's at the last weekend in May, starting what? The 29th through the 31st and it's going to be a really great weekend. A lot of people are already committed to going. The Petito family goes, John Benet's dad goes, Court TV goes, Nancy Grace goes, Chris Hansen's gonna be there. A ton of other creators are going to be there. And we did a giveaway here a couple of months ago and we thought, you know, let's do another one. Let's run it back. So we have decided that we are going to give away two weekend passes, but to one person, right?

• 4:37Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 4:38Annie Elise?

  There will be one winner. Yes, you can bring a guest. Travel will not be included, but the weekend passes for you and your guest will be included. And here's the best part. All you have to do to enter is fill out a super easy form over on Patreon and you don't even have to be in Patreon to fill out the form. It's for free members too, because we got you covered, all my little freebie signee uppers. We do giveaways, we do, you know, bonus things. So all you have to do is go to patreon.com/AnnieElise, or you can go to Patreon and search Annie Elise, sign up at the free level. Again, it's not like a gimmick. You don't have to pay anything, no credit card down, nothing like that. And then fill out this little simple form and you'll be entered to win those two passes. A reminder, quick note, travel is not

• 5:18Annie Elise?

  included. Only one winner will be selected and entries close on Tuesday, May 5th, and then we will announce the winner in the episode description of next week's headline highlights. So on May 7th, but cannot wait to see you there. A lot of exclusive merch will be there too. Amy will be there, Jess will be there, Elizabeth will be there, Ben will be there, our whole team will be there. We'll be in the hotel lobby drinking after Crime Con.

• 5:43Speaker 05

  We'll be doing a couple of fun Patreon things.

• 5:45Annie Elise?

  We are going to be doing some fun Patreon things as well. It's always just like a good weekend with, um, you know, a lot of benefit as well. Mike King will be there, our favorite, and he's doing a big presentation. So I'm going to obviously sneak away to watch that. He's just so smart and amazing and great and I love him. So yeah, so hope to see all of you there. Now with that out of the way, let's start moving into some case updates that I want to share with you. And I want to start with Michaela Settles. Now, you know, we talked about this a little bit last week. We also talked about it the week before when I had a guest on and we dedicated the entire Thursday episode to Michaela's case, but I want to just get us started here on this update because we have talked about

• 6:26Annie Elise?

  it recently. And more specifically, last week, we talked about if there was going to be enough evidence to support a sexual assault charge against Michaela's father. Now, just to recap, if you missed the last two Thursday episodes, which if you did, what the hell are you doing? No, I'm just kidding. Uh, but if you missed it, Michaela had moved to California from North Carolina to live With her biological father. This is back in July of 2025. So she moves in with her father, Stephen Chavez, in Moore Park, California. But then she called her mom just two days after moving in with him, crying, distraught, asking her to come pick her up. She also confided in her mother that her father had violently sexually assaulted her. And because of that,

• 7:11Annie Elise?

  she was actually taken to the hospital and was in such bad shape, her uncle had to physically carry her into the hospital. While she was there, a SANE exam was performed, which if you have heard of any other really horrible true crime cases or cases involving sexual assault, you know that a SANE exam is extremely invasive, but it also is something that yields a lot of results. And it's great if you decide you want to file a report in the future, or even at that point, it's just a great way to collect and preserve evidence. And these nurses are skilled and highly, highly trained. It's not just a regular nurse, it's an actual SANE qualified nurse. But the exam is not

• 7:51Annie Elise?

  easy. It takes hours. So they performed this SANE exam, and Stephen, her father, his DNA was found inside of Michaela. He was arrested shortly after, and he was charged with felony incest and also abuse of a position of trust. But then, fast forward a few months, and in December of 2025, because of the trauma that Michaela had experienced from all of this, she took her own life. Now, there was a court hearing that had been set for the 21st of April, so literally just a week ago. And Stephen, like the true coward he is, did not show up. And a lot of people did show up, because that has really been the call to action in all of this on social media,

• 8:33Annie Elise?

  even in our last episode, is people are so enraged by this case and the possibility that there may not be any real accountability, that so many people showed up with posters with signs just trying to advocate for Michaela and her family. Stephen, though, didn't show up. However, some information did come out a few days later about where this case now stands after that hearing, because his attorney did go there. And according to Michaela's family, Steven is officially not going to be charged with sexual assault. And I want you to actually just listen right now to Michaela's mother speak on this because it is incredibly not only insightful, but impactful. So take a listen.

• 9:14Speaker 06

  As far as the case goes,

• 9:19Speaker 06

  I really don't know how to feel if I'm being honest. So they did set a date for the preliminary hearing. That's May 19th. That's the first time that that's happened. So we are moving forward. They did, however, inform me that based on the charges, the most that he can get is three years and 20 years as a registered sex offender. I said, he's 40 and 60, in 20, in 20 years, this is going to all go away for him. And, you know, they really couldn't really answer me, but they just kept saying, based on the charges, that's the most that he can get. So then I said, why can't we do involuntary manslaughter?

• 10:03Speaker 06

  They said, based on the evidence, this is all we can charge. My daughter then asked, why can't we do rape? And they said, based on the evidence, this is all we can charge. So I don't know what evidence they're talking about, maybe what Michaela said,

• 10:20Speaker 06

  you know, the day it happened. But at the end of the day, he got her drunk. And even if, you know, he said, let's go to this room, or let's go upstairs, or whatever she said, and even if she did, she was intoxicated, she was taken advantage of physically and mentally. So if that's not rape, I really don't know what is. I'm not really sure why they can't, you know, put that as a charge.

• 10:47Annie Elise?

  As you just heard, ultimately, it comes down to what prosecutors believe that they can prove in court. Even with the DNA evidence inside of her, they still have to prove that it was not consensual. And also, there was a part during Michaela's mother's full interview in which she did say something of like how he tried to get her drunk, he did get her drunk, that even if she's the one who said like, oh, let's go hang out in my room or whatever, obviously, she was young, she's impressionable, he's a position of trust, he got her intoxicated, all of these things, which I'm not saying that it was consensual, obviously not. There's no possible way it could have been consensual with how impaired she was, but... Now, the prosecution has to prove that, which becomes difficult when Michaela's not

• 11:30Annie Elise?

  here to speak for herself. So, they're moving forward with the charges that they believe will stick. And I will say, this has a lot of people upset, especially her family, who they feel like these charges just aren't enough for everything that Michaela went through. Because right now, with what he is actually facing, get this, he's only looking at a maximum of three years in prison, and then 20 years on the registry. But even that, if he has good behavior for those three years, he could be released in as soon as a year and a half. Meanwhile, Michaela is no longer here. Meanwhile, he is this sick, twisted freak, in my opinion, who did deplorable, disgusting things with his own daughter, so much so,

• 12:12Annie Elise?

  not just the act itself, so much so that she was so internally damaged, she had to be carried into the hospital, and he can what, after a year and a half, like, go back to living a normal life? Go back to going on vacations? Have a job? Have a life? Have a relationship? Have potentially even more children? I mean, how fucking scary is that? So, lots of people are upset. This is one that we are going to follow very closely. As of now, he has pleaded not guilty, but there is another hearing that's scheduled to happen in a few weeks. So, I will continue following this. I will keep you updated as more information comes out. I freaking hate this man.

• 12:51Speaker 05

  Same. I mean, you saw, I put in the group chat immediately when that came out, that that was the most he was gonna possibly get. I couldn't believe it.

• 13:00Annie Elise?

  I know, which it's like, you know, I get. Everybody is cloaked in innocence until they're proven guilty, but the innocence factor here isn't that you even like, it's the consensual piece. You still had sex with your own daughter. You violently attacked her, or assaulted her, whatever word you want to use, and she took her own life because of it. Like, you are scum regardless, the actual legal, you know, conviction or not, or whatever. What a sick-

• 13:30Speaker 05

  My heart is broken for her family. I can't even imagine the feeling that they must feel, that frustration and just the lack of justice for Michaela.

• 13:41Annie Elise?

  And I understand they've been very tight lipped about the circumstances surrounding Michaela taking her own life, the method. If she did, did or did not leave any notes behind, I know she was journaling a lot. She was trying to work through in her mind while this happened, but so I don't want to put words in her mouth or in her family's mouth, but I would imagine that when she got to that point of feeling like there was no other option but to leave this earth, that there was a level of like confusion, betrayal, possibly even shame, which she should certainly never feel that shame. And it's just, it's heartbreaking. So I hope this piece of scum rots. But, and you know what?

• 14:22Annie Elise?

  Even though he's only facing three years and it'll be a year and a half, maybe if good behavior, we know people like that do not bode well in the prison system. People who are current inmates and see a child predator walk in, we'll just leave it at that. You know exactly where I'm going with that. He's not going to have an easy time. It's not going to be easy breezy, beautiful cover girl in prison.

• 14:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, let's hope not. I mean, it's hard to imagine when things like that happen and then they don't get the punishment they deserve. So if it happens in other ways.

• 14:56Annie Elise?

  Yep.

• 14:56Speaker 05

  It happens in other ways.

• 14:58Annie Elise?

  You know what though? I, I am happy he'll be on the registry for 20 years, which also high, like that's kind of admitting that you did do something wrong if you're going on the registry, obviously, which that's great. Like you can't go around schools. He, his job is an electrician. You probably can't do that anymore because you can't go into a home that has children. There should be a rule if there's not, and I know some people who are listening are probably going to be like, they know what the law is around this. If you're on the registry, you shouldn't be able to have kids. Is that a hot take? Or like,

• 15:27Speaker 05

  No.

• 15:27Annie Elise?

  Is that real? I mean, I get sometimes, I guess, now that I think that's real.

• 15:31Speaker 05

  I don't know how you'd be able to control. Actually I do, but yeah.

• 15:34Annie Elise?

  But like, and I get that sometimes there are not loopholes is the wrong word, but somebody where maybe there's like a case where it's an 18 year old man and a 17 year old girl, and then he gets on the register or like, there's like,

• 15:47Speaker 05

  The technicality.

• 15:48Annie Elise?

  Yeah, but if there's something involving incest or like, and you're on the registry.

• 15:55Speaker 05

  Or any type of assault.

• 15:56Annie Elise?

  Right. Anything involving a child too, which I get it. She was technically 18, but like, you shouldn't be able to have kids because in my opinion, you're a predator and you pose a danger.

• 16:04Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 16:05Annie Elise?

  And like, we obviously know it's not beyond you to hurt your own child and like incest isn't beyond you. So who's to say you wouldn't breed some other children and then do something, you know? I don't know. I could go on and on about that and my thoughts on castration when it comes to people who hurt children, but. Same. Mm hmm. Now, speaking of people who hurt children, we have some updates in the David case. This guy is like the bane of my existence and I want to talk about some of the newest developments in the case against David Anthony Burke, otherwise known as David, D4VD. Cause in last week's episode, we talked about this. Since then, there have been some very disturbing

• 16:45Annie Elise?

  things that have come out and it's a lot. First, we need to talk about Celeste's autopsy. At the time of last week's episode, and even when I did the live stream on Monday, the coroner's report had not been made public. Then it was made public, I believe, either late on Wednesday or early Thursday, right when our episode went live. However, it's now been released and it is one of the most important pieces of information in this case so far. And it also adds a lot more weight to this case because now there's not only actual confirmation of Celeste's manner of death, but also her cause of death. The medical examiner has now determined that her cause of death was from, quote, "multiple penetrating

• 17:29Annie Elise?

  injuries," otherwise known as stab wounds. And of course, as we know, the manner of death was ruled a homicide. However, we looked into this report and when you dig a little bit deeper and you look a little bit further into the report, that is where things really start to sink in. Because according to the autopsy, she had, quote, "two penetrating wounds of the torso with smooth edges that may represent sharp force injuries. One was on the right side of her abdomen and the other was on the left side of her chest." The report also goes on to say that Celeste also had injuries to her arms and legs. And then it notes something that I know has been widely talked about a lot, but hadn't really officially been confirmed until that press conference, but it's a detail nonetheless

• 18:14Annie Elise?

  that is extremely difficult to hear. But it has been confirmed that her body was dismembered. This 14-year-old little girl. And according to the report, without getting too graphic, her arms and legs had been cut into multiple pieces. Which that really shows the level of violence that was involved in this case. And it's truly horrifying. And I have to say, before I go any further too, about like her tox report and all of that, there have been videos now surfacing too, where he played Coachella in 2025, I guess it was, just four or five days before what they presume the death date was of Celeste. And was it before or after? No, it was before, it must have been before.

• 18:58Annie Elise?

  And then we all, we know he went on tour and like all of these things that just in my opinion, show zero remorse, zero care, and just like this level of like entitlement and audacity that you're going to get away with all of this. Which again, innocent until proven guilty. So there were also tox reports that were run as part of her autopsy. And those test results showed, and I want to be clear when I say this, quote, presumed positive for multiple substances. There, it was benzos, methamphetamine, um, shoot, what was the other one? There was another one involved in there as well. But they had said they were still waiting like for, I think, concrete confirmation on that, but it looked as though there was a high level of drugs in her system.

• 19:40Annie Elise?

  I saw a lot of comments online of people thinking that that possibly indicated that maybe there were intentions of, or a history of the past year that she had been with him of like trafficking her to his friends, to other things. My only hope is that if all of those drugs were in her system, I hope she didn't feel or wasn't aware of what happened to her when it happened. That I feel like would be the only possible silver lining in all of this. So this is obviously being treated as a very clear, very deliberate, brutal murder. But at the same time, there are of course, still some limitations because of the condition that her body was found in. So there may be some gaps when it comes to exact timing and certain details.

• 20:22Annie Elise?

  But that's also not to say that prosecutors don't have a ton of evidence in this case. And I am talking massive amounts of digital evidence, not just, which actually I'm getting ahead of myself, so let me just leave it there, a lot of digital evidence. Because during David's first hearing, Which happened at the end of last week. Prosecutor said that they are working with somewhere around forty terabytes of digital evidence. Forty, which to put that into perspective a bit, I even brought an illustration with me. Where is it? First, let me tell you this. So it's not one phone. It's not two phones. It's not, you know, because I think what you can get like a phone with like thirty two gigs, sixty four gigs, that's not even a terabyte.

• 21:03Annie Elise?

  So this is multiple hard drives worth of data, meaning tens of millions of photos, hundreds of thousands of hours of video, forty terabytes, which I'm going to show you right now. For those of you who are watching the video version of this, this is a one terabyte hard drive. This is what I record into every day when I record my episodes and then I upload it. In a given hard drive that is just one terabyte, I have on average, I'm thinking through the thumbnails that I always see when I open this on my computer, at minimum twenty hours of footage where, when I still, and I still have room. So this is just one, times that by forty, when it comes to, and videos are obviously larger files than photos.

• 21:47Annie Elise?

  So think of how much material that is of digital evidence they have against him. And apparently they obviously haven't even gone through all of it yet. How could you? That is such an overwhelming amount of files and data and just so much to sift through. So it's not where they just have like a couple of key pieces of evidence. There's a very high likelihood that they are going to find more stuff, more incriminating stuff, which leads us to one of the parts that has a lot of people talking. Prosecutors have said that on David's phone, specifically on his iCloud accounts, plural, multiple iCloud accounts, they found what they described as a significant amount of CSAM material.

• 22:31Annie Elise?

  For those of you who are unfamiliar with the acronym CSAM, you can look it up, but it is child sexual assault material. And I'm saying assault, it's really a different word, but I guess it could be interchangeable, actually, but some like it's basically. Child explicit material. And that's the exact language that was used with the prosecution. They were saying CSAM material and that there was a ton of it. Now, when I first heard this, I'll be honest with you. I didn't know if that just meant that David's a predator, that he has been, you know, he has all sorts of this material, like a Duggar situation of all sorts of children, or if it's all material involving Celeste. And that because she was a child, it is considered CSAM material.

• 23:15Annie Elise?

  We don't know at this point, though, I want to be very clear whether any of that is directly related to Celeste, or if it involves other individuals. But regardless, disgusting. And regardless, it will come out. And then another thing came out during this hearing. A wiretap. Prosecutors also had confirmed during this hearing that a wiretap had been used during the investigation. So allegedly, there are recorded conversations that are going to be used as part of this case. However, they didn't say what these conversations were that were recorded, or exactly who was involved, but they did say that they have them. So obviously, there are still a lot of moving parts in this case. But with the way that things are going, it looks like there might be a lot more to this

• 24:00Annie Elise?

  situation than anyone ever imagined or anticipated. So I am going to be all over this because we have been following this for nearly a year now. Celeste deserves justice. Her family deserves answers. This scum, whoever was involved, David, David and his entourage, whomever, whatever, everybody deserves to be held accountable. So I will keep an eye on this as it plays out. Fuck this guy.

• 24:26Speaker 05

  I can't believe the 40 terabytes.

• 24:29Annie Elise?

  It's so much data.

• 24:31Speaker 05

  The external hard drive sitting here when we started. And I was wondering, I'm like, what is this prop here for? And then you're like, I actually have it right here. I'm like, oh, there, that's why.

• 24:39Annie Elise?

  Show and tell. No, because I feel like people don't understand how much that is. Like, on this, if I plug it in, at minimum, 20 hours will be on here. And that's even like at 50% capacity. This is one terabyte, so 40 of these, and that's all video files that are hour-long episodes, you know? It's like, who needs that much material?

• 24:58Speaker 05

  I've, I've always not like wondered, I mean, these people are sick, so you're never going to understand it. But yes, like for the amount of content they have and saved and stored, which I do know there's like people that sell it and share it and things like that. So, but.

• 25:15Speaker 05

  Like, why not just watch it? Why not download it? Not that,

• 25:18Annie Elise?

  Because they want to relive it.

• 25:19Speaker 05

  But that's disgusting.

• 25:20Annie Elise?

  But then like, what's so disgusting is they become desensitized to it. So then they have to get grosser material. And that's like Duggar, who has the worst video that's even out there.

• 25:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 25:32Annie Elise?

  So regardless, look, I think the writing is on the wall. I believe that David killed Celeste. Okay, that is my opinion. If I'm proven wrong, I will come and eat my words. Even without that, if he's proven innocent and exonerated and he didn't kill Celeste, I don't care. You're still scum because you have all this material on your phone.

• 25:52Speaker 05

  You're still a pervert.

• 25:53Annie Elise?

  Exactly. And the 40 terabytes isn't specifically 40 terabytes of CSAM. It's 40 terabytes of digital evidence that they have. But he does, that is inclusive on the iCloud accounts of CSAM. So I just want to like, make sure I'm making that, you know.

• 26:08Speaker 05

  Oh, well, then I guess that's good to know. They have that much evidence.

• 26:11Annie Elise?

  Oh, yeah. I think, and like, in his hearing, I like, saw him like, sitting back while his like, lawyers were talking for him in the hearing. And like, he just seems so smug. And they're, and they're asking, they're like, we want a speedy trial. We want all this. We're going to prove his innocence, which like,

• 26:24Speaker 05

  Good luck.

• 26:25Annie Elise?

  Eye roll. Like, yeah, have at it. But I don't think it's going to play out the way this guy hoped that it would. And it's like, for what?

• 26:33Speaker 05

  Well, it's taken so long that maybe there was a part of him that thought he was going to get away with it.

• 26:37Annie Elise?

  Oh, I'm sure. He thought he was going to get away with it. Especially because all of the grand jury meetings in the beginning of the year where they have witness statements now. He was pissed about that. And his attorney even said something in the hearing, like, this was all unbeknownst to him. I'm like, they were all these secret meetings behind closed doors. Like, obviously, that's how you build a case. Like, who knows what he would have done if he knew that his friends were, you know, turning on him and sharing things, witness intimidation, silencing them, whatever he would do. Like, and so I think he thought he probably was getting away with it. And then like, when they're like, oh, no, bro, you know,

• 27:09Speaker 05

  Here's 40 terabytes. You couldn't wait to use that again?

• 27:13Annie Elise?

  I couldn't wait to do it. They're like, 40 terabytes, like, go get in lockup. And I think it's too with his restrictions right now. We obviously know they pulled, they are not allowing bail, but he gets like, gets to shower. Either every other day or every three days, he gets, I think, three hours in total of yard time for the week. I think he's in segregation.

• 27:34Speaker 05

  Is he getting the fangirls coming after?

• 27:36Annie Elise?

  Not that I've seen. Thank God. Not like a Wade Wilson situation. But also like gross. But they're both gross. They're both discussing Wade Wilson has

• 27:45Speaker 05

  I'm just thinking because he's famous. You know, there's all of those.

• 27:47Annie Elise?

  There could be like those thoughts. Yeah. Is that what they're called?

• 27:50Speaker 05

  I was gonna say Stan, but then I'm like, I don't know if that's the right way to say that word.

• 27:56Annie Elise?

  I think it's like thoughts, which I don't even know what that means. I think it's like thirsty girls, like.

• 28:04Speaker 05

  I don't know. Or not thoughts.

• 28:06Annie Elise?

  Talk to me in my twenties.

• 28:09Speaker 05

  Not, not anymore.

• 28:10Annie Elise?

  Yeah, so we will keep a close eye on this.

• 28:14Speaker 05

  So this next case is one that a lot of people have been talking about, but it also has a lot of unanswered questions right now. It's about a 31 year old lifestyle influencer, Ashley Robinson, better known as Ashley Janay online, who had just traveled to Zanzibar, Tanzania, for what was supposed to be this big birthday trip with her boyfriend. But then that quickly turned into something much, much bigger. Because while she was there, her boyfriend Joe McCann proposed to her during a safari. And that obviously sounds like a great thing. From all her pictures on Instagram, everything about this trip seemed like a dream. There were photos of the couple celebrating, smiling, having a great time. This was a huge life moment for both of them.

• 28:56Speaker 05

  But then just days later, Ashley was found dead. And according to reports, on April 9, she was found unresponsive in the villa where she and her boyfriend were staying. And later, she was pronounced dead at the hospital. At first, authorities were saying this might have been a suicide. But then something about the whole situation felt off. Because reports say that the night before Ashley died, she and Joe had gotten into a pretty serious argument. And it was a big enough argument that the hotel staff actually had to step in and separate them into different rooms. And Ashley had even spoken to her mom right after this happened, telling her about the argument. Letting her know that they were staying in different hotel rooms.

• 29:37Speaker 05

  And Joe had also contacted Ashley's family to tell them that she was in the hospital, but didn't provide any details other than something had happened 11 hours ago, but no other context as to what had happened. And it was ultimately the hotel who reached out to Ashley's family to let her know that she was deceased. So when you line that all up, you have this argument, this couple that's on this happy trip, they just got engaged. Then they have this serious argument, a separation into different hotel rooms, and then her being found unresponsive the next day. It immediately raised all these questions. Now, Joe has been questioned by the police, and the most recent reports say that his passport has been held while the investigation continues. But he still has not been charged with a crime.

• 30:22Speaker 05

  At the same time, though, there are some conflicting narratives and theories coming out, because Joe has allegedly told Ashley's family that she, quote, "did something to herself." And her family is pushing back on that. Take a listen.

• 30:35Speaker 07

  He told me that Ashley did something to herself and that she was being taken to the hospital. I said, "What happened? When?" And he told me it had been 11 hours prior.

• 30:45Speaker 05

  They've said that Ashley was happy, that she had just gotten engaged, that this was a big trip for her birthday and something that she had really been looking forward to. And that nothing suggested that she would have done something to hurt herself. In a statement, they said, "One moment she was celebrating love and life in true Ashley fashion, and the next, she was gone." And that's where the uncertainty really sits right now. There's no confirmed official cause of death that has been publicly finalized. No one has been arrested, and the investigation is still ongoing. So this is really one of those situations where everything on the surface looks kind of perfect, and then overnight just turns into something that feels very unresolved. So we'll definitely be keeping an eye on this story,

• 31:29Speaker 05

  and as more information comes out, we'll keep you posted, because there's clearly still a lot of unanswered questions. And depending on what investigators find... Who knows, this story could shift in a big way.

• 31:41Annie Elise?

  I know, I feel like I don't have a gut read either direction. I feel like it could, could have been self harm, or it could have been something more nefarious. Who really knows? But for some reason, it did bring me back to, and I forget the victim's name in this case. I'm sorry. It's like, it's on the tip of my tongue, but I can't think through it. Somebody will know it. I believe it was in the Bahamas, or it was somewhere tropical as well. And they got into an argument, and he took the top of the toilet seat, the tank, and like bashed her head in. This was like two years ago, maybe, maybe three years ago. And they had gotten into a fight, and then he fled, and he took like a dinghy boat to another island. Um, and like tried to like pass it off, or I don't even know.

• 32:24Annie Elise?

  Which obviously, we don't know the cause of death. We don't know anything like that, but there's something weird here.

• 32:30Speaker 05

  Definitely.

• 32:31Annie Elise?

  So, yeah, I guess we'll just keep an eye on it. That's so sad.

• 32:34Speaker 05

  What really struck me as weird, I mean, obviously, the whole thing is unsettling, but you think, you know how it is, you plan a big trip for your birthday, you have everything planned down to the detail. What you're wearing, what you envision this trip, you're so excited for, you're not planning, obviously, to harm yourself. You've got all these details lined up. And then on his side, he's planning a proposal. So I would imagine this is something he's excited for, planned all the details. So it's like you have these two people going on this trip, and they're so excited and looking forward to what seems to be this bright future. And then all of the sudden, I mean, it turns.

• 33:11Annie Elise?

  Well, that's, I want to know what the argument was about.

• 33:13Speaker 05

  So dark. And then even, yeah, if the dark, you know, you separate, you have a breather, you take a night to sleep apart, and then come together in the morning and hope to resolve it. So, yeah, what happened in the middle of the night to cause her?

• 33:25Annie Elise?

  An argument when you just got engaged and you're happy. Like, what was that argument about? I want, that's what I want to know.

• 33:37Annie Elise?

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• 34:59Annie Elise?

  Okay, so this is a case that we have not talked about yet, but I have seen you guys commenting and DMing me. And I'm just going to say this upfront. It is very shocking, but also seems to be developing very quickly. I'm going to let you know everything that we currently know at the time of this recording. If there are updates before this releases, you know, don't come for me. I will give you another update, but I want to let you know where things stand right now. So this is the case about the two University of South Florida doctoral students, Zamil Limone and Nahida Brizzi, both 27 years old, both from Bangladesh, and both working toward their PhDs. And both of them went missing the same day, which was April 16th. Now, when this first happened,

• 35:44Annie Elise?

  I swear, everybody on social media was going crazy about it. They could not figure out what was going on, how these two students went missing, what was happening. It was really, I mean, it truly was mysterious. They had last been seen at Zamil's apartment, which Nahida had gone over there to hang out with Zamil. The two of them were in a relationship, so this wasn't anything unusual. Hello, you hang out at each other's apartments, you eat, you cook, you go out, you do whatever. I mean, she had been there before. It was part of their normal routine, just a regular visit like any other. But after that, neither of them was heard from again. No calls, no texts, nothing. And pretty quickly, people in their lives knew that something wasn't right, because this was not normal behavior for either one

• 36:28Annie Elise?

  of them. So at first, it was being treated as a missing persons case. Two students, both gone, last seen at the same place at one of their apartments, then just seemingly vanishing from his apartment, which that already alone, it raises a lot of questions. But then, just days later, everything shifted. Because while searching for the two missing students, authorities found Zamil's body. He was found on the Howard Franklin Bridge in Tampa, and he was found inside a trash bag. And from what's been reported, he had multiple sharp force injuries, otherwise known as stab wounds. So at that point, this case, I mean, it immediately changed, right? This wasn't just a disappearance anymore. This

• 37:11Annie Elise?

  was a homicide. So as investigators started digging, they then discovered something pretty interesting. Zamil had a roommate at his apartment. He shared the apartment with a man named Hisham. Now, surveillance footage that investigators were able to collect and gather showed his roommate, Hisham, moving things to a dumpster using a rolling cart. Multiple trips as well, which, hello, that is suspicious. Why are you moving so many things to a dumpster, right? So at that point, after investigators saw this footage, the focus started shifting entirely onto the roommate. And when law enforcement moved

• 37:50Annie Elise?

  in to make an arrest, Hisham barricaded himself inside the apartment. A SWAT team then surrounded the home.

• 37:58Speaker 06

  Late Friday, after a nearly 90-minute standoff, Hillsborough County, Florida deputies took 26-year-old Hisham Abu Garbi into custody. And we commanded the suspect to come out to our deputies. He

• 38:13Speaker 06

  At that time, SWAT was activated. SWAT then mobilized and commanded the suspect to come out of the residence. At that time, he came out peacefully and was taken into custody.

• 38:28Annie Elise?

  He was eventually taken into custody and he was charged with false imprisonment, tampering with evidence, and failure to report a death. Then, after that, investigators executed a search of the apartment. And according to court documents, they found a significant amount of blood inside this apartment. And not just in one concentrated area, in multiple areas. Which, this then pointed to something pretty major and something pretty bad that had happened there. During this search, they also went to the apartment's trash compactor, the dumpster area, and they collected some of Zamil's belongings. Those were the same items that they saw his roommate moving on that surveillance footage. They also searched Hisham's phone.

• 39:12Annie Elise?

  And that is where another key piece of evidence comes in in all of this. Because investigators said that they found searches that had been made before the murder. And this wasn't, you know, your run-of-the-mill Google search that so many idiots like to make, but he had allegedly been asking questions to his good old friend, ChatGPT. Searches like, what happens if a human is put in a garbage bag and thrown in a dumpster? Can a VIN number on a car be changed? Has there been someone who survived a sniper bullet to the head? And also, what does "missing endangered adult" mean? I mean, pretty specific searches, if you ask me. I ask ChatGPT a lot of questions, literally every day.

• 39:56Annie Elise?

  I've never have felt the need to ask, what happens if a human is put in a garbage bag and then thrown into a dumpster? And then, coincidentally, someone I know, no less someone in close proximity, is then found in a garbage bag near a bridge. Like, come on. So phone pings were also pulled from the same phone, and they showed the roommate was near the bridge where Zamil was found in the days after both students went missing. So now they had their suspect in custody and one of the students had been recovered and found. But at this point, Nahida was still missing and investigators made it very clear at this point that unfortunately, given the circumstances and the evidence and the

• 40:36Annie Elise?

  blood, they did not believe that she was alive. Then, just a few days later, on early Monday morning of this week, additional human remains were recovered from the water near that bridge. Authorities said that the remains are believed to be Nahida. So at that point, both victims had been found and recovered. So that is when the roommate was charged again, because up until that point, he had only been arrested on those initial charges that were tied to the investigation. The charges of false imprisonment, tampering with evidence, and failure to report a death. But now, once both victims had been found, those charges were upgraded, and he was formally charged with two counts of first-degree premeditated

• 41:17Annie Elise?

  murder on top of everything else. Now, here's what's interesting, and here's what has a lot of people speculating, questioning, wanting answers. We still don't have a confirmed motive. That hasn't been publicly explained, and it's the piece in all of this that still feels like it's missing, right? I mean, at least at the time of this recording, right now, there is no information on a motive, but based on what the investigators have laid out, both victims were last seen at the same place, at that apartment, and evidence inside that apartment, and all the things that the roommate did afterward, and leading up to it, the searches, the blood, the, all of those things, they believe that this was deliberate and planned. This case is rapidly still developing, and there is a lot more

• 42:02Annie Elise?

  that is going to come out as it moves through the courts, but I mean, like, wow, what a nightmare, and what is going on, and how sad for these two students who, like, were just here trying to get their PhDs, like, together in all of this, and then this roommate does this allegedly, and like, why? I don't know. And what I'm hung up on, too, is...

• 42:24Annie Elise?

  We I haven't at this point, at least at the time, again, of this recording, we don't know what Nahida's cause of death was. We know that for him, it was the sharp force injuries, otherwise known as stab wounds. But I'm a little bit hung up on the search of has there ever been someone who survived a sniper bullet to the head? And maybe I'm reading into this too much, but in my mind, the only reason somebody would search that is if they shot someone with a sniper bullet in the head and then dumped their body, maybe by a bridge, and started panicking and freaking out, being like, could they have survived it? Could they have like pulled the bag off? Could they have then got? Will they tell on me? Will like they go to the police? Unless like, I'm thinking of something different. But I feel like that's when you would start spiraling.

• 43:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was like, that search is very disturbing.

• 43:13Annie Elise?

  Yeah, it's and like so specific.

• 43:16Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 43:16Annie Elise?

  Like, I don't know. So I will be following this very closely, but it's incredibly sad.

• 43:22Speaker 05

  It's so sad. And of course, the answer or the question is why?

• 43:26Annie Elise?

  Right.

• 43:26Speaker 05

  Because you think.

• 43:27Annie Elise?

  Maybe jealousy? I don't know.

• 43:29Speaker 05

  And it's just, it's kind of wild when you think about roommates in general, because it's like, you really don't know a whole lot about them.

• 43:36Annie Elise?

  Yeah.

• 43:36Speaker 05

  In a personal sense, and you're sharing a very close intimate space with them. And then and you're trusting, obviously, you're sleeping there.

• 43:44Annie Elise?

  Totally.

• 43:44Speaker 05

  I mean, it's kind of wild.

• 43:46Annie Elise?

  I know. It's scary.

• 43:48Speaker 05

  All right. So I came across this next case out of Wilmer, Alabama, and it's a really unsettling one. It all started on April 20, when deputies from the Mobile County Sheriff's Office were called out to a home. And when they got there, when they went inside, they found three members of the same family dead. And more than that, they say that the way they were killed was brutal and unusual. The victims were 46 year old Lisa Fields, her 17 year old daughter, Kasia, her 12 year old son, Thomas, and Kasia was also around eight months pregnant at the time. So really, this wasn't just three victims, it was four. And all three of them were found inside the home, but not all together. They were in separate.

• 44:33Speaker 05

  Rooms and all of them had been bound with zip ties. And that detail alone really stood out because it told investigators right away that whoever did this came prepared. This wasn't chaotic, this wasn't random, there was control here. And when you look at how each of them were killed, that's where things start to feel even more unsettling. Lisa, the mother, was stabbed and had her throat cut. Kaziah, the daughter, was shot. And Thomas, the 12-year-old, suffered from extreme violent injuries, with reports indicating that his throat was also cut multiple times. This wasn't one weapon, this wasn't one method. In fact, they noted that Thomas was almost decapitated. And it wasn't quick.

• 45:19Speaker 05

  To a lot of people, this suggested something deliberate, intentional, and planned. There was also an 18-month-old baby in the home, Kaziah's baby, and that child was found alive and completely unharmed, thank God. And that's just one of the details that make people stop for a second. Because why? Why spare this baby's life but kill everybody else in the home? And that's why some people have kind of been speculating to say, why was that baby kept alive? Perhaps because they were too young to identify anyone? We really don't know yet. And the way this was discovered mattered too. This wasn't just a routine welfare check. Kaziah's boyfriend was actually working offshore, and he hadn't been able to reach her for a few hours.

• 46:03Speaker 05

  And then in the middle of the night, he checked Life 360 and saw that her phone was moving. He was worried, so he asked a relative to go to the house to check on her. Her being pregnant, her phone moving in the middle of the night, he was unable to reach her. And that's when the family member walked in and saw what had happened. Sheriff, what can you tell us about what happened here?

• 46:23Speaker 07

  Well, the, we received a call from a family member of the victims, that there was some deceased. Individuals inside the house, once we made entry, discovered the mother, forty-six years old, was, had been murdered. All three victims had their hands bound behind them with zip ties or flex cuffs. The mother was stabbed, the seventeen-year-old was shot, and the twelve-year-old's throat was cut. So the throat was cut. Throat was cut, a- as was the mom.

• 47:05Speaker 05

  And so when investigators started going through the house, they could tell right away that something wasn't right. It didn't just look messy, it looked like someone had been going through things, searching for something specific, maybe. And that raised another layer of questions, because if it was a robbery, it didn't really line up with the level of violence at the home. Law enforcement also said that this didn't appear to be a domestic situation, and said that more than one person may have been involved. And when you look at the number of victims, the zip ties, and the fact that they were in different rooms, that does kind of make sense, because realistically, there aren't really many people that could do this to three people by themselves. And another detail that kept coming up was that there are no obvious signs of forced

• 47:47Speaker 05

  entry, which really raised the possibility that whoever did this may have been known by the family, or at least was someone that they didn't immediately see as a threat. Now, this is where things have recently taken a turn. Authorities have confirmed there has been an arrest made, and this came just over a week after everything happened. According to the Mobile County Sheriff's Office, fifty-four-year-old William Graham Oliver was taken into custody on Tuesday afternoon and is now facing several charges. Specifically, he's being charged with eight counts of capital murder. And here's how that all breaks down. There's one count of capital murder of two or more people, four counts of capital murder during a burglary, two counts of capital murder of a child younger than fourteen years

• 48:31Speaker 05

  old, and one count of capital murder in the presence of a child. And there's already a lot of speculation online about the motive. What could have been going on? Whether This was something targeted for a specific reason or something else entirely. But as of now, nothing has been confirmed by investigators. So it's just speculation at this point. What we do know is that a mother, her teenage daughter, along with her unborn child and her young son, were killed inside their own home in a way that investigators are still trying to piece together. And even now, there are still more questions than answers. So we'll definitely keep following this one closely as more updates come out because this is a case

• 49:14Speaker 05

  that feels like there's still a lot more beneath the surface and we're just not there yet.

• 49:19Annie Elise?

  It's really sad. I wonder if it is somebody who knows them. I mean, they obviously said it was targeted. You had said like that multiple people may have been involved because who can do something like this? And I'm like, well, Brian Koberger could, you know? So I mean, who's to say it's not one singular person, but.

• 49:34Speaker 05

  I read somewhere that some of the speculation goes back to one of the children's biological fathers. That there had been rumors of prior law enforcement involvement in with him and potentially even with the home, potentially drug related. And they were exploring that. So we'll see.

• 49:55Annie Elise?

  Oh my gosh, it's so sad. Obviously a lot of heavy cases today. And for those of you who may have missed it earlier this week on this feed, the Serial Slay feed on Monday, I did drop a mega episode. It was so long, in fact, that we broke it up into two parts. It's very triggering to listen to. It's very difficult. I actually interview the survivor of that case and it involves her being pregnant, a friend of hers telling her to turn around and count to three, having butcher knives in her purse. It's horrific, but so if you missed that, go back on the feed, start with part one, then go into part two. And also, if you're not following my second true crime podcast yet, 10 to Life,

• 50:37Annie Elise?

  now would be the time to go bounce over there, check that out because on Tuesday, we released an all new episode regarding Athena Strand. You may have seen this trial going viral right now. She's the seven year old little girl who was abducted by the FedEx driver. I covered that case early on back in 2022. And so we took another look at it. We talk about the updates with the trial, what's been going on, what happened with the abduction and how it happened and the logistics of everything. So that episode is currently right now on the feed, on the tend to life feed. And we had put that out Tuesday. As a reminder, if you're a podcast listener, everything lives on under the same channel

• 51:17Annie Elise?

  on YouTube, but it's broken up into two separate podcast feeds for audio. So if you're an audio only listener, make sure that you're following both podcasts because you'll get new episodes every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and every other Friday. So a lot there. But I will keep you posted on updates in all of these cases. And we have another deep dive coming out this Monday, which will be on this serialist feed. So make sure to listen to that. Before you go, if you are listening on Apple, please take a quick second rate and review. It helps the algorithm. It helps push this out. If you're watching on YouTube, like, subscribe, all of the things. And until the next one, be nice, don't kill people. Can't

• 52:02Annie Elise?

  believe I'm going to say this, but like, don't hurt children. And just be a good human. All right. Bye.

• 52:08Speaker 05

  Bye.

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