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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:45Andrew Santino?

  Hey!

• 0:46Bobby Lee?

  Heyo!

• 0:46Andrew Santino?

  Oh, look at what goes on my feet!

• 0:48Bobby Lee?

  Look what goes on my hands and my body!

• 0:50Andrew Santino?

  And look what goes on our head!

• 0:51Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, and my head!

• 0:52Andrew Santino?

  We got new merch, new socks and shirts. It's been a long time since we made merch, but we really love this drop, that's why we did it. We waited, we think this design is so cool.

• 1:00Bobby Lee?

  Baseball caps.

• 1:01Andrew Santino?

  Baseball caps.

• 1:02Bobby Lee?

  The t-shirts, we have the "Thank You" t-shirts.

• 1:04Andrew Santino?

  And socks.

• 1:04Bobby Lee?

  And we have socks.

• 1:05Andrew Santino?

  Available right now at badfriendsmerch.com.

• 1:24Bobby Lee?

  You know the whole lyric, huh?

• 1:26Andrew Santino?

  I seen the rainbow yesterday, and so many... You know that song?

• 1:29Bobby Lee?

  What?

• 1:30Andrew Santino?

  I got you a gift to start the show.

• 1:35Andrew Santino?

  Gift, gift!

• 1:38Bobby Lee?

  I have no gift!

• 1:41Andrew Santino?

  Well, last time you told us about how much your new hobby has enthralled you, and although we couldn't get you exactly what I thought we were supposed to get you, we got you something else.

• 1:50Bobby Lee?

  Who did it?

• 1:52Bobby Lee?

  What size are they?

• 1:53Andrew Santino?

  Your size.

• 1:54Bobby Lee?

  Nine?

• 1:54Andrew Santino?

  Nine, baby.

• 1:55Bobby Lee?

  They're nice!

• 1:56Andrew Santino?

  You like these?

• 1:57Bobby Lee?

  I love Europa.

• 1:59Andrew Santino?

  These are the Europa Track Control. These are the grippers.

• 2:02Bobby Lee?

  Whose are there that they wore and then they don't want to wear anymore?

• 2:06Andrew Santino?

  No, this was a 14-year-old boy who lives in Burbank. That's where we got them from.

• 2:09Bobby Lee?

  No, really?

• 2:10Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but they're yours now, dog.

• 2:12Bobby Lee?

  Thanks, bud.

• 2:12Andrew Santino?

  And look at the rubber's worn out on the brakes.

• 2:15Bobby Lee?

  Do they work though?

• 2:17Andrew Santino?

  Do they work? Well, they don't break unless like the wheels don't work, but of course they work. Strap up and rock out. You want to take a break and roll around the parking lot for a minute?

• 2:24Bobby Lee?

  Eleven ninety-nine?

• 2:26Andrew Santino?

  That's how much they were.

• 2:28Bobby Lee?

  Eleven ninety-nine?

• 2:29Andrew Santino?

  What would you like them to be?

• 2:31Bobby Lee?

  Three hundred dollars.

• 2:32Andrew Santino?

  Three hu- why?

• 2:34Bobby Lee?

  I want the high-tech versions of this.

• 2:35Andrew Santino?

  Those are the highest tech.

• 2:37Bobby Lee?

  Dude, I can go online right now and get a higher tech.

• 2:39Andrew Santino?

  It's last year's model.

• 2:40Bobby Lee?

  Is it really?

• 2:41Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. That kid was ripping.

• 2:43Bobby Lee?

  Oh, I don't like it.

• 2:44Andrew Santino?

  Come on, put them on.

• 2:45Bobby Lee?

  Was it?

• 2:46Andrew Santino?

  Put them on and rip around the neighborhood for one minute, please. It would really help me out.

• 2:51Bobby Lee?

  Really?

• 2:51Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but I'm having a tough day. I need a good day.

• 2:53Bobby Lee?

  Alright.

• 2:54Andrew Santino?

  Hell, yeah.

• 2:55Bobby Lee?

  You being real? Yes. I wipe out, I swear to God. You're not gonna wipe out.

• 3:01Bobby Lee?

  Where do we go?

• 3:22Speaker 03

  Jump something, jump something.

• 3:30Bobby Lee?

  Dude, he's doing a move.

• 3:34Bobby Lee?

  He's doing the E-L-O-G.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Jump over the yellows.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  Jump over the yellows.

• 3:51Speaker 04

  You two are bad friends. Who are these two idiots? A white dude and an Asian dude. You two are disgusting. Oh, you two are something. We're bad friends.

• 4:07Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, those are gone. Um, I don't think we have ice here. I think you have to go get ice.

• 4:13Andrew Santino?

  You okay, Bob? Ah.

• 4:17Andrew Santino?

  Who has that clip of him falling?

• 4:19Bobby Lee?

  That's all I heard, you laughing? No, and that makes me realize that we don't have the friendship that we have.

• 4:25Andrew Santino?

  Not sure, I ran, I said, "Are you okay?", then I turned and saw-

• 4:27Bobby Lee?

  Oh, you said, "Okay", and then you cackle like a hyena?

• 4:29Andrew Santino?

  We have the footage, if you want to rewind it, we can actually watch what happened. Is you fell, I go, "Oh my god, is he okay?", and then I turned my head while we were coming over to you, and those two Mexican guys are dying laughing. And I mean dying laughing, am I wrong?

• 4:42Bobby Lee?

  Do you have audio on that, see fucking my friend, my supposed friend cackling like a hyena?

• 4:50Bobby Lee?

  Oh, you jump over? You said jump over?

• 4:53Andrew Santino?

  No, he said it.

• 4:54Bobby Lee?

  No, you said-

• 4:57Bobby Lee?

  Wait, wait, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop! That wasn't Mexicans laughing!

• 5:05Bobby Lee?

  You laughed as soon as the fall happened, you piece of shit dude! No, no, rewind it!

• 5:10Andrew Santino?

  Look to my right.

• 5:11Bobby Lee?

  You piece of shit!

• 5:12Andrew Santino?

  To my right.

• 5:13Bobby Lee?

  You piece of shit!

• 5:13Andrew Santino?

  It's an Irish, Irish laughter.

• 5:15Bobby Lee?

  What, what?

• 5:15Andrew Santino?

  To my right.

• 5:18Bobby Lee?

  You didn't even look right!

• 5:20Andrew Santino?

  He's looking- That's where he's looking, he's looking out!

• 5:23Bobby Lee?

  You laughed and then you looked! You laughed and then you looked, you piece of shit dude, that's not cool dude.

• 5:31Bobby Lee?

  Are you-

• 5:32Andrew Santino?

  I said, "Are you okay?"

• 5:33Bobby Lee?

  In laughing!

• 5:34Andrew Santino?

  Watch, listen to the rest.

• 5:39Andrew Santino?

  "Are you okay?", "Honestly concerned", "Fuck", we said. "Hands on hips", "Nervous",

• 5:51Andrew Santino?

  "Carlos laugh", "See", "See", "It's all, are you okay",

• 6:00Andrew Santino?

  Look at the Mexicans! Look at them!

• 6:06Andrew Santino?

  Look at the Mexican dudes laughing, look, look, he's right there!

• 6:19Andrew Santino?

  Dude, look at him laughing. Look at these Mexican guys laughing. Trump, do your job, Trump. And get these guys, they're cracking the fuck up. Yes, he is.

• 6:31Bobby Lee?

  Zoom at that guy, right now, freeze.

• 6:32Andrew Santino?

  Zoom in on the other guy.

• 6:34Bobby Lee?

  Okay, from what I see?

• 6:36Andrew Santino?

  There's two of them.

• 6:37Bobby Lee?

  He ain't laughing, dawg.

• 6:38Andrew Santino?

  Yes, he, 100%, he's laughing. Yes, he was. Everybody saw it.

• 6:41Bobby Lee?

  Wait, go back to the fall, though.

• 6:42Andrew Santino?

  Oh, my fucking god, dude.

• 6:51Bobby Lee?

  This is what?

• 6:54Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 6:55Andrew Santino?

  Oh, my god.

• 6:56Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 6:59Andrew Santino?

  Are you okay? That's the first thing you hear.

• 7:00Bobby Lee?

  No, I can't feel my fucking finger.

• 7:01Andrew Santino?

  Well, I asked, are you okay? I'm the first one.

• 7:04Bobby Lee?

  Are you okay in a laughing hyena style? Laugh, dude. Rewind the laughter.

• 7:09Andrew Santino?

  Three are you ok's.

• 7:11Bobby Lee?

  Get the audio up, dude.

• 7:12Andrew Santino?

  So many are you ok's.

• 7:14Bobby Lee?

  Shut the fuck up, dude. You're a piece of shit.

• 7:17Andrew Santino?

  So many are you ok's.

• 7:18Bobby Lee?

  You're not a friend of mine. You okay, Bob? Volume.

• 7:21Andrew Santino?

  See? Are you okay, Bob? We're concerned.

• 7:22Bobby Lee?

  Go, go right to that fall again.

• 7:25Andrew Santino?

  Alright, everybody, don't laugh.

• 7:27Bobby Lee?

  Don't laugh.

• 7:27Andrew Santino?

  When the fall happens, do not laugh.

• 7:30Bobby Lee?

  If you smile, I will literally, no, put your shirt down. Any of you, you guys smile, I'm...

• 7:39Bobby Lee?

  Dude, I'm, I'm gonna leave. I really am gonna leave.

• 7:42Andrew Santino?

  If you guys laugh, you're gonna go, you're gonna get deep shit.

• 7:49Andrew Santino?

  No more. I'm not even fucking kidding. Bob, hold on, stop.

• 7:55Andrew Santino?

  Play the video, and if anybody in the fucking booth laughs, you're fired.

• 7:58Bobby Lee?

  Any enthusiasm, or, no, you can't cover your mouth. Fuck, dude, dude. Nothing.

• 8:03Andrew Santino?

  Show your face, you cowards.

• 8:05Bobby Lee?

  Alright, go.

• 8:06Speaker 03

  Oh, my god. Oh, my god.

• 8:15Andrew Santino?

  Carlos, you're fired.

• 8:20Andrew Santino?

  See, look, and I'm concerned. Are you okay? Five are you okays.

• 8:24Bobby Lee?

  Why are you crying?

• 8:25Andrew Santino?

  Cause I'm sad. You got hurt.

• 8:31Bobby Lee?

  One more from the other angle.

• 8:32Andrew Santino?

  You okay? Hold on.

• 8:33Speaker 03

  I have a third, there's a third angle.

• 8:34Andrew Santino?

  Hold on, play this out.

• 8:35Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 8:39Bobby Lee?

  Oh my god.

• 8:39Andrew Santino?

  See, fancy smiling.

• 8:41Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I need, um...

• 8:45Andrew Santino?

  The Mexicans, dude.

• 8:47Speaker 05

  Did you break your wrist?

• 8:48Speaker 03

  I think I did.

• 8:49Speaker 05

  I'm sorry, dude.

• 8:55Bobby Lee?

  You literally aren't a friend of mine. It's so sad. It's so fucking sad.

• 8:58Andrew Santino?

  Those guys are laughing and it made me laugh.

• 9:00Bobby Lee?

  No, dude. You laughed at impact.

• 9:03Andrew Santino?

  That's not true. We just watched it again. I didn't crack a smile.

• 9:06Bobby Lee?

  Watch the first one again.

• 9:07Andrew Santino?

  Watch the first one and I won't laugh.

• 9:09Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 9:09Andrew Santino?

  Watch.

• 9:10Bobby Lee?

  Watch, listen to it. Right when I fall.

• 9:15Bobby Lee?

  You're the one, dude. You're the fucking dick.

• 9:16Andrew Santino?

  Pause, pause it.

• 9:17Bobby Lee?

  Jump over the curb.

• 9:18Andrew Santino?

  Start it over.

• 9:19Bobby Lee?

  Jump over the...

• 9:19Andrew Santino?

  Mccone yells.

• 9:20Bobby Lee?

  It doesn't matter.

• 9:20Andrew Santino?

  Jump over the curb and I go, "Yeah, jump over the curb." I repeat what you said. That is true.

• 9:25Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah. Jump inside the volcano. Yeah, jump inside the volcano. It's the same fucking thing, dude.

• 9:29Andrew Santino?

  I thought it'd be cool if you jumped over the volcano. You went in.

• 9:31Bobby Lee?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  He didn't even get near the volcano.

• 9:36Andrew Santino?

  See, he just said jump over the yellow one.

• 9:51Bobby Lee?

  Fuck you.

• 9:52Andrew Santino?

  Stop it, sit down. Please sit. Let's move forward.

• 9:55Speaker 03

  That's insane.

• 9:57Andrew Santino?

  Look, we all learned a lesson. No more gifts. This was retaliation, if I'm being honest, from how much my heart hurt when I bought you those Arsenal shoes and you didn't like them. That's kind of what this was.

• 10:11Bobby Lee?

  Oh, really?

• 10:11Andrew Santino?

  And I knew that you'd fall on these and I bought them knowing you'd fall.

• 10:15Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. One Christmas, I bought probably four or $5,000 worth of gifts to you. And yours is worth what, three, four hundred dollars? We can get into a little-

• 10:23Andrew Santino?

  I've gotten, I've given you more gifts consistently than you've ever given me in the-

• 10:26Bobby Lee?

  I do it in chunks, in big chunks.

• 10:28Andrew Santino?

  You do it once, you did it one time.

• 10:29Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. Oh my god, that was terrible.

• 10:30Andrew Santino?

  I'm sorry that you feel bad, you need to put ice on your hand again, though.

• 10:32Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 10:33Andrew Santino?

  You just ice it.

• 10:34Bobby Lee?

  Oh my god, that was terrible, dude. Anyway.

• 10:37Andrew Santino?

  That's not what it's like when you go to the roller rink.

• 10:39Bobby Lee?

  No.

• 10:40Andrew Santino?

  It's way more smooth. You don't go up to go over-

• 10:42Bobby Lee?

  It's smooth, it's not bumpy, it's-

• 10:43Andrew Santino?

  Well, chiseled, chiseled, uh, concrete is not the move.

• 10:47Bobby Lee?

  I was doing some moves out there even, too.

• 10:49Andrew Santino?

  It looked good.

• 10:49Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I was slicing it out and everything, too, and then, uh, the middle part of the thing I can handle. But when it got bumpy, and when I heard the little weasel go, "Jump out of the curb! Jump over that red, yellow thing, bud!"

• 11:01Andrew Santino?

  That was him.

• 11:01Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. "Jump over the yellow thing, buddy!"

• 11:04Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, he was infla- he was instigating.

• 11:06Speaker 03

  You weren't even attempting to jump, but you just fell in the middle.

• 11:08Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I'm not a fucking professional rollerblader, dude.

• 11:11Andrew Santino?

  Not anymore.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I think even me saying that is ultimately irrelevant, because you, you didn't even, you didn't hurt yourself jumping over the yellow thing. You just couldn't even get over the middle of the street.

• 11:19Andrew Santino?

  Oh my god, don't, please don't.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  We're done, we're done.

• 11:25Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no, please.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  Oh my god!

• 11:37Bobby Lee?

  You're fucking at it.

• 11:38Andrew Santino?

  You know, I gotta tell you something.

• 11:39Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 11:40Andrew Santino?

  Can I tell you something why I love you so much?

• 11:41Bobby Lee?

  Shut up.

• 11:42Andrew Santino?

  I was having a real, real bad day.

• 11:44Bobby Lee?

  Fuck off.

• 11:44Andrew Santino?

  Okay, do you want, you want, you want me to level with you for real? My dad had a heart attack last night.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  Jesus.

• 11:49Andrew Santino?

  And he's in the hospital. So I was having a crazy day.

• 11:51Bobby Lee?

  Which one?

• 11:53Andrew Santino?

  What do you mean, which one?

• 11:54Bobby Lee?

  Stepdad or real dad?

• 11:55Andrew Santino?

  My real father. Okay.

• 11:59Andrew Santino?

  What is that?

• 12:02Andrew Santino?

  And you laugh now?

• 12:03Bobby Lee?

  The one that abandoned you?

• 12:04Andrew Santino?

  And see, you laugh?

• 12:05Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:06Andrew Santino?

  The reason that you laugh-

• 12:07Bobby Lee?

  Say it again.

• 12:07Andrew Santino?

  The reason you laugh-

• 12:08Bobby Lee?

  Say it again.

• 12:08Andrew Santino?

  Is why I laugh when you fall on rollerblades.

• 12:10Bobby Lee?

  Say it again, dude.

• 12:14Andrew Santino?

  My father had a heart attack last night. You think it's funny? See? Now, are we even now? Now we're even.

• 12:21Bobby Lee?

  Oh, is he okay?

• 12:23Andrew Santino?

  He is okay.

• 12:24Bobby Lee?

  Really? Is he gonna be okay though?

• 12:25Andrew Santino?

  We'll find out.

• 12:26Bobby Lee?

  Alright, sorry.

• 12:27Andrew Santino?

  No, it's okay. But that's why I laugh at you when you fall. Cause you're actually-

• 12:30Bobby Lee?

  A little different.

• 12:30Andrew Santino?

  Cause you're actually a bad person.

• 12:32Bobby Lee?

  No, you're a terrible-

• 12:33Andrew Santino?

  Like you're genuinely a bad-

• 12:34Bobby Lee?

  You're a terrible human being. Well, you'll be hearing from somebody.

• 12:37Andrew Santino?

  Whom? You can't even- your assistant can't even answer your text. What are you gonna go get a fucking lawyer?

• 12:41Bobby Lee?

  My assistant- so Andrew texts my assistant on Monday. She doesn't reply until Friday.

• 12:46Andrew Santino?

  That's right, one week. I go, "Hey, what's Bobby's schedule?"

• 12:50Bobby Lee?

  She has a shit- he has a shitstorm. You know what I mean? Enraged, right?

• 12:54Andrew Santino?

  To whom?

• 12:55Bobby Lee?

  About my assistant.

• 12:56Andrew Santino?

  I didn't say anything bad to her. I just go, "Don't worry about it."

• 12:58Bobby Lee?

  No, you said, "Great assistant."

• 13:00Andrew Santino?

  Tell her when I called you.

• 13:01Bobby Lee?

  Five days.

• 13:01Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, five days.

• 13:02Bobby Lee?

  Right? And I called my-

• 13:03Andrew Santino?

  Five days?

• 13:04Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I called my assistant. I go, "Great job."

• 13:09Bobby Lee?

  "Continue the work, my friend."

• 13:11Andrew Santino?

  And then she texted me and was like, "I'm so sorry. I'll never do this again."

• 13:13Bobby Lee?

  You went camping?

• 13:14Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and I-

• 13:15Bobby Lee?

  You can't go camping?

• 13:16Andrew Santino?

  Brother, she's been camping.

• 13:20Bobby Lee?

  Oh, is it another fucking weight joke?

• 13:23Andrew Santino?

  What? I don't even know what she looks like. I've never seen her in my life.

• 13:26Bobby Lee?

  You body shaming-

• 13:27Andrew Santino?

  You know what's interesting? I've never seen what she looks like and hear Bobby is saying how he feels. So you're saying- you're projecting.

• 13:33Bobby Lee?

  No.

• 13:33Andrew Santino?

  Oh, interesting.

• 13:34Bobby Lee?

  Really?

• 13:34Andrew Santino?

  I've never met this human in my life. I don't even know who it is. It's an apparition. As far as I'm concerned-

• 13:38Bobby Lee?

  You've never met Melanie, my assistant.

• 13:40Andrew Santino?

  When would I have ever met fucking Melanie?

• 13:42Bobby Lee?

  Well, then take that out.

• 13:44Andrew Santino?

  Fuck you. No, that at least stays in.

• 13:46Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, get out. You feel that way?

• 13:47Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you do!

• 13:48Bobby Lee?

  You body shame people!

• 13:49Andrew Santino?

  Never seen her in my life. Don't even know- by the way-

• 13:51Bobby Lee?

  That's just her everywhere.

• 13:52Andrew Santino?

  As far as I'm concerned, she's ChatGPT. I don't even know if she's fucking real. I've never even known this human to be real!

• 13:58Speaker 03

  Also, fat people don't go camping.

• 14:00Andrew Santino?

  Bam! Oh my god, bam, dude. This guy's shooting the fact gun.

• 14:07Bobby Lee?

  Dude, put away your fact gun, dude.

• 14:10Andrew Santino?

  You asked me for restaurant recommendations.

• 14:13Bobby Lee?

  Oh my god.

• 14:13Andrew Santino?

  Did I send you to a good spot?

• 14:14Bobby Lee?

  We can't go from negative to positive that quick.

• 14:18Andrew Santino?

  That's the best part of the show.

• 14:19Bobby Lee?

  No, no, no, I don't like it.

• 14:20Andrew Santino?

  The part of the show is you fall.

• 14:22Bobby Lee?

  That quickly.

• 14:22Andrew Santino?

  You fall, you make fun of my dad that has a heart attack.

• 14:24Bobby Lee?

  No, no.

• 14:25Andrew Santino?

  And he's in the hospital right now.

• 14:26Bobby Lee?

  Like a little child at a playground.

• 14:29Andrew Santino?

  Were you okay? Are you okay from the fall?

• 14:32Bobby Lee?

  Is your daddy gonna die?

• 14:33Andrew Santino?

  Maybe. Maybe. Huge difference between the two. You falling in the parking lot.

• 14:38Bobby Lee?

  You.

• 14:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and you fell, you little fat jelly roll.

• 14:41Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I got not what now, how is it that he's more mad than me?

• 14:44Andrew Santino?

  No, no, I'm not mad. If you shoot, shoot at me, I'm going to shoot back.

• 14:48Bobby Lee?

  You shot at me first!

• 14:49Andrew Santino?

  How?

• 14:50Bobby Lee?

  You gagging when I was falling.

• 14:52Andrew Santino?

  It's hilarious.

• 14:53Bobby Lee?

  It's hilarious.

• 14:54Andrew Santino?

  When a short little fat guy falls on roller blades. Do see if it's funny. Huh? You wanna watch it again, see if it's funny? No.

• 15:01Bobby Lee?

  See what I mean, dude?

• 15:03Andrew Santino?

  Dude, it's funny!

• 15:04Bobby Lee?

  Alright.

• 15:05Andrew Santino?

  It's fucking, this is inherently funny.

• 15:07Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah. That's good, that's good, that's good.

• 15:13Andrew Santino?

  Oh no!

• 15:17Andrew Santino?

  Oh no!

• 15:20Andrew Santino?

  Oh no! I fall, I fall, I fall on the ground. I go for the yarrow thing, I fall on the ground.

• 15:31Andrew Santino?

  Laugh into the mic so we know you're laughing. Will you cut it out? Having a blast.

• 15:38Bobby Lee?

  Man, okay.

• 15:39Andrew Santino?

  And a beautiful sunny day, no less.

• 15:40Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. In front of my two favorite Mexicans. Embarrassing.

• 15:45Andrew Santino?

  Alright, jump to something fun.

• 15:47Bobby Lee?

  Imagine if they were like, a group of like, hot chicks.

• 15:50Andrew Santino?

  I mean, come on.

• 15:51Bobby Lee?

  That would have been so sad for me.

• 15:53Andrew Santino?

  No, no, see, I disagree. Hot chicks would have found it endearing that we were having fun with it. And they would have been like, "Are you okay? Are you okay?"

• 15:59Bobby Lee?

  No, they'd be like, "Are you okay?"

• 16:01Andrew Santino?

  No, it's not high school.

• 16:02Bobby Lee?

  That's why.

• 16:03Andrew Santino?

  That's high school.

• 16:04Bobby Lee?

  Are you okay? What? They would have got the ick. They would have got the ick, for sure.

• 16:07Andrew Santino?

  If they were, if they were.

• 16:08Bobby Lee?

  A guy with no balance? People want balance!

• 16:10Andrew Santino?

  How about this?

• 16:12Bobby Lee?

  What do they look for? A job, you know what I mean? Security balance?

• 16:16Andrew Santino?

  Look up traits that women love in men. Balance is not on there.

• 16:18Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, balance is on there, dude.

• 16:19Andrew Santino?

  No, it's not.

• 16:20Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 16:21Andrew Santino?

  Traits that women love in men. Ready? Confidence, kindness, intelligence, balance. Oh, my God, it is. It's the fourth one.

• 16:27Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah. Sense of humor.

• 16:28Andrew Santino?

  Sense of humor. See? You fell, we laughed.

• 16:30Bobby Lee?

  I know, but not that. It would give, right? Carlos back me up, but ick.

• 16:33Speaker 05

  Ick.

• 16:33Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, it's totally ick.

• 16:34Andrew Santino?

  If they're, okay.

• 16:35Bobby Lee?

  A producer, ick. Not get a job.

• 16:37Andrew Santino?

  How about this? Ick if they're, ick.

• 16:39Bobby Lee?

  He's not gonna be in fucking Commando 2. You get me? He's gotta run across the field with a fucking M16.

• 16:44Andrew Santino?

  You know what the producer's, you know what the producer's a karate ghost? They'd be like, we gotta put this guy in the movie again. Look, you mid, midair, you did a kick. You did a karate.

• 16:52Bobby Lee?

  I didn't kick, dude. My leg, both my legs kicked out.

• 16:55Andrew Santino?

  Do women find it important for men to have balance? Do women find it important for men to have balance? You'll find out.

• 17:01Bobby Lee?

  Oh, fuck.

• 17:02Andrew Santino?

  There's a rock in there? Oh, that's a piece of skin.

• 17:04Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, you want some?

• 17:04Andrew Santino?

  No, thank you.

• 17:05Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna put it on your body.

• 17:06Andrew Santino?

  All right, and I'll punch you.

• 17:08Bobby Lee?

  Why?

• 17:09Andrew Santino?

  I don't want your skin.

• 17:09Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, put my skin on your body, dude.

• 17:11Andrew Santino?

  I don't want it.

• 17:12Bobby Lee?

  That makes, that's blood, brother.

• 17:13Andrew Santino?

  Look, generally, women find it important for men to have a healthy work-life balance. And you do.

• 17:17Speaker 05

  Work and life.

• 17:18Andrew Santino?

  Work and life out there.

• 17:20Bobby Lee?

  Oh, my God. You have a Band-Aid or no?

• 17:23Andrew Santino?

  I doubt this place has a Band-Aid.

• 17:25Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 17:25Andrew Santino?

  I don't even know if we, we don't have like proper anything here.

• 17:27Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 17:28Andrew Santino?

  You know, someone else said that, who walked in the studio and goes, this is how you guys operate?

• 17:31Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 17:32Andrew Santino?

  This place is a joke. It's a joke.

• 17:35Bobby Lee?

  People go, oh, congratulations, you know, you got a great podcast. And I'm like, we, we work in a dump.

• 17:41Andrew Santino?

  We work in a dump.

• 17:43Bobby Lee?

  In an alleyway?

• 17:44Andrew Santino?

  But don't you like, isn't this good?

• 17:45Bobby Lee?

  It's the way it is.

• 17:46Andrew Santino?

  I would rather this than the other thing.

• 17:48Bobby Lee?

  It's like Sesame Street, like, we went down Sesame Street. And then there was like a door there. What's up?

• 17:54Andrew Santino?

  He's got paper towels. Please. Do you want some, um, get him some, uh, uh, Purell. Purell is alcohol. It's gonna hurt. But you gotta, you have to clean the cut.

• 18:06Bobby Lee?

  Oh, you do it. I'm gonna close my eyes.

• 18:07Andrew Santino?

  Fuck. Give it to me. Do you have a tat? Have you, when was the last time you got a tat in a shot?

• 18:12Bobby Lee?

  I've never gotten one.

• 18:13Andrew Santino?

  Oh, shit. Okay.

• 18:17Andrew Santino?

  Ah! Ah, sorry, sorry, sorry! Yeah, but you have to, you have to clean it!

• 18:23Bobby Lee?

  Ah!

• 18:23Andrew Santino?

  Ah, sorry!

• 18:26Andrew Santino?

  Punch him! Take it out on my cone! Take it out on my cone!

• 18:31Bobby Lee?

  Anyway, let's go to positive.

• 18:32Andrew Santino?

  Let's go to positive. You called me up, you said I need a good breakfast restaurant, I suggested it.

• 18:36Bobby Lee?

  It was called Miracle Bakery.

• 18:38Andrew Santino?

  Yep, in Burbank.

• 18:39Bobby Lee?

  So I was with, um, somebody I'm seeing and we were in Burbank. And we're shopping, I bought a, um, a 2012 Godzilla statue.

• 18:48Andrew Santino?

  Shut up, how big?

• 18:50Bobby Lee?

  It was like this big.

• 18:51Andrew Santino?

  Wait, is it at your house now?

• 18:52Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I also got a, um, Master Blaster statue.

• 18:55Andrew Santino?

  Dude, where did you go shopping?

• 18:57Bobby Lee?

  It's called, um, it's called Blast From The Past.

• 19:00Andrew Santino?

  Oh, in downtown?

• 19:02Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 19:02Andrew Santino?

  I know exactly where it is.

• 19:03Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 19:03Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 19:03Bobby Lee?

  I got a Master Blaster and then I got a Transformer, old Transformer, and then I got, um, a bunch of stickers and whatnot.

• 19:10Andrew Santino?

  What?

• 19:11Bobby Lee?

  And then we were, I got that.

• 19:12Andrew Santino?

  Whoa.

• 19:13Bobby Lee?

  And then we, um, that, you know, and then my date was like, she was like, um, I want something breakfasty, I go, I don't know anything around here, let's just get tacos. I want breakfasty!

• 19:23Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you gotta do what they want. When they want breakfast, you gotta give it to them.

• 19:26Bobby Lee?

  I called Andrew and he brought me to a place that was really good.

• 19:31Andrew Santino?

  And I'm gonna be honest. Look, let me be honest. When you ask me about a spot, don't I deliver, typically I said-

• 19:36Bobby Lee?

  That's the thing about you, that's why I call you.

• 19:38Andrew Santino?

  I know, I love you.

• 19:39Bobby Lee?

  Especially in the Burbank area, because you used to live in that area.

• 19:41Andrew Santino?

  Love Burbank.

• 19:42Bobby Lee?

  That I know that you know the spots there. I think you know globally, like if I'm in, if I'm in like Indianapolis, I think you know.

• 19:48Andrew Santino?

  I got you.

• 19:49Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, you got me. Anywhere in the cities, I think you know.

• 19:51Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, the rurals are gonna be hard for me. Even like, even places like Taipei, if you're in Taipei, I can hook it up too.

• 19:56Bobby Lee?

  You can hook up Taipei, yeah.

• 19:57Andrew Santino?

  Uh, so Miracle Bakery, phenomenal stuff, you're ever in Burbank, go say hi.

• 20:01Bobby Lee?

  Also, they, um, they treated me like a king.

• 20:04Andrew Santino?

  Well, you are.

• 20:06Bobby Lee?

  No, they were just nice to everybody.

• 20:08Andrew Santino?

  They're great people.

• 20:09Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:09Andrew Santino?

  They make phenomenal food and they cook it all there.

• 20:11Bobby Lee?

  We disagreed with the donut.

• 20:12Andrew Santino?

  What happened? Well, this is not a really, you, you're a donut purist, it's different.

• 20:16Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I disagreed with the donut.

• 20:18Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 20:18Bobby Lee?

  A donut, I mean.

• 20:19Andrew Santino?

  But their specialty was all the other, the breakfast items are their best.

• 20:21Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 20:22Andrew Santino?

  What was wrong with the donut?

• 20:24Bobby Lee?

  It was like a phone nut kind of a, the consistency wasn't what I was looking for.

• 20:28Andrew Santino?

  It's probably a little healthier.

• 20:29Bobby Lee?

  Probably.

• 20:29Andrew Santino?

  That's why it's not good.

• 20:30Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:30Andrew Santino?

  Well, look, healthy stuff that's supposed to be unhealthy.

• 20:33Bobby Lee?

  But everything else was excellent.

• 20:35Andrew Santino?

  Oh, no. Whoa, it's vacation Marin.

• 20:39Bobby Lee?

  It's you were shorts. I've never worn slippers. What the slippers about?

• 20:43Andrew Santino?

  Blue chair, babe. Blue chair.

• 20:45Bobby Lee?

  It's, yes.

• 20:46Andrew Santino?

  Dude.

• 20:46Bobby Lee?

  What's your, welcome.

• 20:50Bobby Lee?

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• 21:01Andrew Santino?

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• 21:29Bobby Lee?

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• 21:37Andrew Santino?

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• 21:56Bobby Lee?

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• 22:03Andrew Santino?

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• 22:04Bobby Lee?

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• 22:06Andrew Santino?

  You have a lot of animals.

• 22:07Bobby Lee?

  People living in my house.

• 22:08Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you're like Noah.

• 22:09Bobby Lee?

  And sometimes, and I also live in the woods.

• 22:10Andrew Santino?

  You do live in the woods.

• 22:11Bobby Lee?

  Right, and I do, and I, you know, we got simply safe from.

• 22:15Andrew Santino?

  We got simply safe from them. They sent it and we installed it in Bobby's house.

• 22:18Bobby Lee?

  And can I say something?

• 22:19Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 22:20Bobby Lee?

  My sleeves have been so, you know why? Because I know a slasher isn't gonna walk in.

• 22:24Andrew Santino?

  No one's gonna be able to walk in.

• 22:24Bobby Lee?

  Because I have security and security is what?

• 22:28Andrew Santino?

  It's priceless.

• 22:28Bobby Lee?

  It's exactly.

• 22:29Andrew Santino?

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• 22:34Bobby Lee?

  Way too late.

• 22:34Andrew Santino?

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• 22:39Bobby Lee?

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• 22:54Andrew Santino?

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• 23:15Bobby Lee?

  That's simplisafe.com/badfriends.

• 23:17Andrew Santino?

  There's no safe like SimpliSafe.

• 23:19Bobby Lee?

  Kachava. Okay, so, um, over the years, I've taken protein powders, different types of things.

• 23:26Andrew Santino?

  For years you've been doing that?

• 23:27Bobby Lee?

  I've been doing it and Kachava is my favorite one because, I'll tell you why. The flavor, the chocolate, the, the matcha one, the one with vanilla in it. There's one with chai, there's a chai one. What you do is you just take two scoops, put it into a, um, what do you call it? A?

• 23:44Andrew Santino?

  Little shaker.

• 23:44Bobby Lee?

  A shaker.

• 23:45Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they give you a shaker.

• 23:45Bobby Lee?

  Shake it, yeah, they gave you one. You shake it about five or six times. Last night, I had hunger pains, as you know, you know? And I took two chocolate ones, right? Shake, shook it. Hunger pains went away, right? My body felt great, right? I love Kachava.

• 23:59Andrew Santino?

  You look great, by the way. 25 grams of 100% plant-based protein in every single one. That's pretty impressive. Five indulgent flavors. You got chocolate, vanilla, chai, matcha, and coconut acai, which I love.

• 24:11Bobby Lee?

  With every two scoops of Kachava, you get 85-plus superfoods, nutrients, and plant-based ingredients.

• 24:18Andrew Santino?

  You gotta try it. You can fuel your daily adventures with Kachava. Go to kachava.com and use the code BADFRIENDS for 15% off your next order.

• 24:24Bobby Lee?

  I mean, I just, I, I can't live without it and I'm being real.

• 24:27Andrew Santino?

  No, I know.

• 24:28Bobby Lee?

  This is, this last month, it could have been Kachava for Papa.

• 24:31Andrew Santino?

  He's having it every day.

• 24:32Bobby Lee?

  K-A-C-H-A-V-A.com. Code BADFRIENDS to get 15% off.

• 24:39Andrew Santino?

  Oh, God. Did you see the sign here, by the way, Mark? Did you see what the kids did for you?

• 24:43Speaker 06

  Oh, that's nice.

• 24:44Andrew Santino?

  That's awesome.

• 24:45Speaker 06

  That's clever. Do you have a volume for my cans?

• 24:47Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, no, no, tell, he'll tell, he'll adjust you right there.

• 24:49Bobby Lee?

  Get some volumes, please.

• 24:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, I like to.

• 24:51Bobby Lee?

  He's older, he might not hear well.

• 24:53Speaker 06

  Well, that's funny. That's a pretty good one. How's the new material coming?

• 24:58Bobby Lee?

  You go right to the throat? That's fucking cruel.

• 25:00Andrew Santino?

  And let me tell you something.

• 25:01Bobby Lee?

  That's cruel be ever. And last night, I have to say, Peter Shore came up to me and goes, that's six minutes I've never even seen before.

• 25:07Speaker 06

  I know.

• 25:07Bobby Lee?

  And they're strong.

• 25:08Speaker 06

  He told me today, I just spent four hours with him.

• 25:10Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. And did he say something about my, my, my act?

• 25:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, he said he did new material.

• 25:15Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then why, what's the slam about, guy?

• 25:17Speaker 06

  I thought it would roll right off you because it's not true.

• 25:20Bobby Lee?

  No, but I should do more. The out pitch should be more.

• 25:23Andrew Santino?

  Dude, Aaron.

• 25:24Bobby Lee?

  He's, he knows.

• 25:24Andrew Santino?

  He's clever. He's so clever.

• 25:26Bobby Lee?

  He's so good at what he does.

• 25:27Andrew Santino?

  He is.

• 25:27Speaker 06

  Play with comics. You know, you want me to be open? I can be open.

• 25:30Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, be open.

• 25:30Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you can fly free on this show.

• 25:32Speaker 06

  I feel that. I feel safe with you guys.

• 25:34Andrew Santino?

  You should.

• 25:34Speaker 06

  That's, that's when I was driving over here, I thought, this is gonna be a supportive, safe room.

• 25:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. You can say whatever you want to us.

• 25:40Bobby Lee?

  Say whatever you want.

• 25:41Speaker 06

  No, I got nothing.

• 25:44Speaker 06

  Do you guys have a plan?

• 25:45Bobby Lee?

  No, the question.

• 25:45Andrew Santino?

  We do.

• 25:46Speaker 06

  The yammering?

• 25:46Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 25:47Andrew Santino?

  We got a plan for the yam.

• 25:48Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah. The, the question to me is, why would you end? Let me, I'm gonna say something before I even say that. I wanna say that, um, I feel like there's two people that are the pioneers in terms of comedy that inspired this generation to do it.

• 26:04Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 26:04Bobby Lee?

  Which is a generation below you.

• 26:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, I get it.

• 26:07Andrew Santino?

  It's, it's you?

• 26:08Speaker 06

  Just one below me.

• 26:09Andrew Santino?

  And Mario Batali.

• 26:10Speaker 06

  For sure.

• 26:11Andrew Santino?

  His podcast is so good.

• 26:13Speaker 06

  I think we all, we probably all owe it to Tom Green.

• 26:15Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, we do, actually.

• 26:16Bobby Lee?

  I did, Tom, yeah, yeah, right. Tom was first.

• 26:18Speaker 06

  With the video podcast.

• 26:19Bobby Lee?

  With the video, yeah.

• 26:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, who, me and who else?

• 26:22Bobby Lee?

  Rogan.

• 26:22Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 26:23Andrew Santino?

  Who's that? Who's that?

• 26:24Bobby Lee?

  Joe Rogan.

• 26:24Speaker 06

  Joey.

• 26:25Andrew Santino?

  Joseph Rogan?

• 26:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's out of Texas.

• 26:26Andrew Santino?

  Oh, in Texas? Got it. I got it. Got it.

• 26:30Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. You love Austin, don't you?

• 26:32Speaker 06

  He's running half the planet out of Texas.

• 26:34Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:36Speaker 06

  He's got a, a tight hold on the enlightened meathead.

• 26:40Andrew Santino?

  Dude, Maron's disdain.

• 26:43Speaker 06

  It's not disdain. It's, it's reasonable criticism.

• 26:45Andrew Santino?

  Reasonable criticism.

• 26:46Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 26:46Andrew Santino?

  When's the last time you spoke with him?

• 26:48Speaker 06

  Uh, I don't know. That's a good question. I, I guess it would have been at the store. I never talked to him in Austin. I don't go into the club. I don't really think I'm on his radar. So, uh,

• 26:58Andrew Santino?

  Something tells me you are.

• 26:59Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:00Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, something.

• 27:00Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, something tells me you are.

• 27:02Speaker 06

  I, I don't, uh, you know, it's weird that you get lumped into a, a certain thing. And maybe it's my assumption that, uh, you know, his, uh, his army of, uh, of, uh, you know, healthy fellas.

• 27:17Andrew Santino?

  Is that their title? Army of healthy fellows is so good.

• 27:19Speaker 06

  No, you just gotta, you know, you gotta stay and keep the machine.

• 27:23Andrew Santino?

  The machine's gotta be good.

• 27:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:25Andrew Santino?

  That's a shot at Burt. Go ahead.

• 27:26Bobby Lee?

  What do you think the Austin shelf life is gonna be?

• 27:29Speaker 06

  Well, I don't know. Like, I think that it's so effectively tribalized at this point. It really comes down to material. I mean, at what point? Like, at what point? It's like, whatever they represented in terms of policy.

• 27:41Andrew Santino?

  Sure.

• 27:42Speaker 06

  It's not a stretch. It's like, they won. Trans people are frightened. They have no ability to get healthcare anymore. And, and they, they're afraid of being alive and have no freedom left. So, that's done. When do you stop with the jokes?

• 27:55Bobby Lee?

  Hmm.

• 27:57Speaker 06

  Like immigrants, okay, well, they're being ripped away from their homes and, yeah, and they're, you know, and they're all terrified. And, and okay, so that's done. When do you stop with the jokes?

• 28:06Bobby Lee?

  Right.

• 28:07Speaker 06

  I mean, it's one thing to, to pick on the vulnerable and the marginalized, but, I mean, they're down.

• 28:15Speaker 06

  I mean, like, why do you gotta keep hitting them? Unless you're a hack. Now, there's a question.

• 28:21Andrew Santino?

  Mark.

• 28:22Speaker 06

  Mark.

• 28:23Andrew Santino?

  It comes in swinging.

• 28:25Speaker 06

  No, so I don't know. The last time I talked to Joe, people for a while were like, you know, why don't you go on Joe's show? And, and my answer to that is like, why?

• 28:34Andrew Santino?

  Why? Right. Well, you, it doesn't service you.

• 28:37Speaker 06

  Well, no, I don't need him. And also, there's no, there's no way for me to, like, what am I gonna talk to him about? And there's no way for me to, to, to, to sort of not walk out of there and be like, all right, I guess I'll look at my phone. Oh, fuck. How long's this gonna go on for? You know, like?

• 28:54Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 28:54Bobby Lee?

  But it's like Martin Luther King and Malcolm X made me meeting at one, at one point. So, you think, let's go historical with it.

• 29:00Andrew Santino?

  Say it again?

• 29:00Bobby Lee?

  Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, meeting. They met at one point.

• 29:05Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 06

  Well, that's right.

• 29:06Bobby Lee?

  Pioneers of the civil rights movement.

• 29:08Andrew Santino?

  Which one is Malcolm X and which one's Martin Luther?

• 29:10Speaker 06

  I don't, I don't really think.

• 29:12Bobby Lee?

  That's not Martin Luther?

• 29:13Speaker 06

  The analogy doesn't work.

• 29:14Andrew Santino?

  No, no. He's so bad at analogies, let him keep going with this. It's gonna get funnier as it goes on.

• 29:19Bobby Lee?

  Okay, um, let me go with more analogies.

• 29:21Andrew Santino?

  He's like, this is if Hitler's and Goebbels had to hang out off the work site.

• 29:26Speaker 06

  Why, one of those is right.

• 29:27Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 29:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think you got half that analogy.

• 29:32Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 29:33Speaker 06

  See?

• 29:34Bobby Lee?

  Why could you just once support me? You know what I mean? With an analogy?

• 29:37Andrew Santino?

  Shut up.

• 29:38Speaker 06

  But that was just wrong. It brought race into it in a very profound way. And I wouldn't.

• 29:43Andrew Santino?

  Mine was angled and funny and distant. It went somewhere else.

• 29:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think on one side of that, there's a guy that's aggressively fighting for the civil rights of victimized white people. God knows they've had it hard enough, long enough time. But, uh, has Joe asked you? No.

• 29:59Andrew Santino?

  Oh. Here's a better, here's a better angle.

• 30:01Speaker 06

  Adam used to go like, hey, what? And I'm like, no, why?

• 30:04Bobby Lee?

  Why?

• 30:05Andrew Santino?

  Well, because it's interesting being someone like us on the outside of it and watching you guys.

• 30:09Speaker 06

  Oh, you got one foot in, baby.

• 30:10Andrew Santino?

  Well, yeah, it's, it's right up your ass.

• 30:12Speaker 06

  Yeah. Uh, that's the other foot.

• 30:13Andrew Santino?

  I think, I think what it is for me is I would love to see you guys chat, but I'd love to see you guys chat in neither of your arenas. It would be the only way it'd be legit. Because if you have to go to his show, not gonna work.

• 30:24Speaker 06

  Very good.

• 30:24Andrew Santino?

  He has to go to your house, not gonna work. You guys would have to do this thing.

• 30:28Speaker 06

  So I'm setting up a mob meeting.

• 30:30Andrew Santino?

  Here. Yeah, no, seriously.

• 30:31Speaker 06

  They should do it here. Moderated.

• 30:33Andrew Santino?

  You should do it here at Bad Friends.

• 30:34Speaker 06

  They should do it.

• 30:35Andrew Santino?

  It would piss both of them off so fucking much.

• 30:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:37Andrew Santino?

  Look at the art behind them.

• 30:38Speaker 06

  I know.

• 30:39Andrew Santino?

  It would just be of us.

• 30:40Speaker 06

  This would be good. Neutral ground. But you do have to understand something. I have known Joe since he started.

• 30:47Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 30:47Speaker 06

  I mean, literally since he first set foot on stage.

• 30:51Andrew Santino?

  In Boston.

• 30:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:52Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 06

  And I remember my initial issues where there was another guy, Kevin Flynn, who was out of the game. And he was like a soccer jock. And at that time, Joe was like a, you know, regional kickboxing champion. And my, uh, my initial reaction was like, what are these guys doing here? This isn't for them. All right. This is, it's like Louis once said to me years ago, when Jay Moore started in New York, when he was like 17. He's like, it's not for them. It's not for the good looking guys. It's not for the jocks. This is for us rejects, us guys who don't fit in. That's what comedy was.

• 31:29Andrew Santino?

  Was Jay Moore that good looking? Am I crazy?

• 31:31Bobby Lee?

  He was cute back then.

• 31:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, for sure.

• 31:33Andrew Santino?

  Okay, but let's be honest. Let's go back to the truth tree then. Marc Maron is a good looking guy.

• 31:37Speaker 06

  Not always.

• 31:38Andrew Santino?

  Mark Maron.

• 31:40Bobby Lee?

  Dude, why are you getting TV shows every fucking second, man?

• 31:43Andrew Santino?

  And we'll get to that.

• 31:44Bobby Lee?

  Not for my looks.

• 31:44Andrew Santino?

  We'll get to that in a second.

• 31:45Bobby Lee?

  It is. This company, your face, I've seen you on screen.

• 31:48Andrew Santino?

  No, he's a handsome guy. It's annoying.

• 31:49Bobby Lee?

  You have great angles on your face.

• 31:51Andrew Santino?

  When you were young.

• 31:52Speaker 06

  Now.

• 31:52Andrew Santino?

  Yes, you're right. You matured. When you were young, you were hideous. You're a hideous man to look at.

• 31:56Speaker 06

  I was long, sweaty and bloated and long hair, but getting back to Joe. Look, I imagine.

• 32:04Andrew Santino?

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:04Bobby Lee?

  All right.

• 32:04Andrew Santino?

  Sex machine, dude.

• 32:06Speaker 06

  That was okay.

• 32:07Andrew Santino?

  Ladies, who's that? That's a hot.

• 32:09Speaker 06

  But look, I really couldn't land on a look, could I?

• 32:11Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 32:11Andrew Santino?

  God, you really rotated. Now, go to the, no, the Comedy Central photo down below.

• 32:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:16Andrew Santino?

  Awful.

• 32:16Speaker 06

  Awful.

• 32:17Andrew Santino?

  Awful.

• 32:17Speaker 06

  That was a bad night.

• 32:18Andrew Santino?

  Awful. I mean, this is what anti Semites dream of.

• 32:21Speaker 06

  That's not quite, that's not quite a full Jew. I would say full Jew. Look at the one of me and Sam Canison. That is me at my drugged out fucking best.

• 32:31Bobby Lee?

  Wow. What a legendary photo.

• 32:34Andrew Santino?

  That's such a good photo.

• 32:35Speaker 06

  What a crazy, I was out of my mind.

• 32:37Bobby Lee?

  I know.

• 32:38Speaker 06

  Out of my mind. Everything had a reason.

• 32:39Bobby Lee?

  Was that at Crest Hill?

• 32:40Speaker 06

  That was.

• 32:41Bobby Lee?

  Did you live in Crest Hill?

• 32:42Speaker 06

  That was, yeah, I did. That was in the back lot.

• 32:43Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 32:44Andrew Santino?

  Wait, hold on. Was that Fitz? Was that you and a young Fitz?

• 32:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, that was in Boston, me and Fitz, yeah.

• 32:49Andrew Santino?

  Look at that, dude.

• 32:50Bobby Lee?

  Oh my God, dude.

• 32:51Andrew Santino?

  I've never seen this photo. Look at how jacked Fitz looks.

• 32:54Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 32:54Speaker 06

  And then up there on the, where's that one of me and Dave Cross in the red shirt? Dave Cross, it was probably in the mid 90s, yeah. Hey.

• 33:01Bobby Lee?

  Oh my God, dude. Wow.

• 33:04Speaker 06

  But that night for the Comedy Central, the first half hours, I was, I fucked it, man. It was so sad, dude, because I got out here, I wasn't living out here, and I was still doing coke then, right? And I had one guy who would get me the blow here, right? And it was, you remember, you remember Bob Baker?

• 33:23Bobby Lee?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:23Speaker 06

  Sure. Bob Baker.

• 33:25Bobby Lee?

  Bob Baker, dude.

• 33:26Speaker 06

  I couldn't trust Chewie, but Baker had other connections. You know, Chewie.

• 33:28Bobby Lee?

  Chewie had other connections. House of Blues, you can get in there for free.

• 33:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, but, but, but, I don't know what happened to Baker, but he wasn't a dealer, but he, you know, he was here and I would say like, I'm coming out, you know, try to get him. So I was really dead set on like trying to keep clean before that special, and I thought I did, because I was like, you know, I'll just do a little the night before, but I'll stop at like 6:00 at night, you know, and. But needless to say, I didn't sleep much and I tanked. I didn't tank, but it was not good. It was the same, that was like the same night that, that Hedberg, whether it was that night or the night after, did the special that made him.

• 34:06Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 06

  But he didn't do well either, but he was him.

• 34:09Bobby Lee?

  I was at that special.

• 34:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, that was at the Ivy, on, on.

• 34:12Bobby Lee?

  He bombed so bad.

• 34:13Andrew Santino?

  Well, and he talks about it in the special, right? Doesn't he talk about eating shit?

• 34:16Bobby Lee?

  He stopped at one point and comes out again. It was weird.

• 34:19Speaker 06

  But it, it took on mythic proportions that special.

• 34:22Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:22Speaker 06

  That really was what put him on the map.

• 34:24Bobby Lee?

  Hmm.

• 34:25Speaker 06

  But that was the same bunch of taping. So I was kinda sweaty. I did okay. I really didn't have my voice in totally. I was still kinda bitter, but the saddest thing about this is like, you know, after you do a set like that, you wanna go into a room full of friends and like, and they had food there too. And, and I'm like, alright, I finished the set and I walk into where the food is, no one's in there but Baker. And he's going, "They got roast beef." And I'm like, "Whoa, whoa."

• 34:50Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 34:50Speaker 06

  Wow, that's the, that's the victory party.

• 34:53Bobby Lee?

  So what years were you a doorman at the store, though?

• 34:56Speaker 06

  I got out here, I guess, I, I guess it was 86 and 87.

• 35:01Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 35:01Speaker 06

  So I got out here in like the summer of 86, became head doorman. And, uh, you know, she made me head doorman. I gotta, I had to get all these idiots jackets. It was a different thing there. She tried to open the, she tried to open one in Universal City.

• 35:15Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 35:16Speaker 06

  Like in a hotel there. So it was my job to make the schedule for the doorman. There was no security or anything and nobody wanted this job.

• 35:23Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 35:23Speaker 06

  So it was me, Rod Blackman, who wasn't a comic, Andy Volver, uh, Mike Jocelnik. Do you remember that guy?

• 35:30Bobby Lee?

  No.

• 35:31Speaker 06

  He was, he became a, he was a lawyer. He's in Cleveland. Uh, you know, um, Jay Pope was another guy. I can't believe I'm remembering these names. But like, you know, she was like, "Man, you gotta get him jackets." And I'm like, "I gotta get him jackets?" So I'm down in fucking Chinatown, trying to find black blazers for these idiots. And, uh, yeah, and then like, I was living in Culver City with Steve Bro. And then they, they kicked me out of the, the apartment. Uh, because like Pete Berg, you know, the director?

• 35:59Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 36:00Speaker 06

  Steve Brill is also director. I went to college with Steve and we were best friends. We actually started doing comedy together.

• 36:04Bobby Lee?

  Pete Berg is killing it now.

• 36:06Speaker 06

  He does alright.

• 36:07Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:07Speaker 06

  Like he does, he did a few Samoan movies. He did Samoan's last special, but Berg is definitely killing it.

• 36:12Andrew Santino?

  Definitely killing it.

• 36:13Speaker 06

  And he's got a real.

• 36:14Andrew Santino?

  He was your college roommate?

• 36:15Speaker 06

  Wow. No. Steve Brill was my good friend at college. So Brill lived out here and there was a whole crew of them, including Berg. When I met Berg, he was like, he was running, he was trying to act. I took pictures of those guys and he used a picture I took of him as his headshot for years out in Culver City, but him and, and Brill were friends. And I was living with Brill in Culver City in a building his uncle owned or his mom or something. And what happened was Berg needed a place to live. So all of a sudden they're like, you can stay on the couch. And it was so sad because I, I was trying to get in doing stand up. The way I got the job as a doorman at the store is like Mitzi, I was doing PA work. This is a funny story. Like I didn't know what the fuck to do when I got out here. I just wanted to be a comic and I didn't know how to get on, I didn't know anything.

• 36:58Speaker 06

  And I, when I got out here, I'd, I'd showcased at the store and I showcased, I don't even think it was a real showcase at the improv. Um, and I just like, didn't know what else to do. There wasn't any other options. And I started doing PA work. And so the, the first job I had as a PA was on a, and I, it doesn't matter.

• 37:18Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, just tell me.

• 37:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 37:19Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, we have to know.

• 37:20Speaker 06

  It was on a shoot for, it was, it was a, a series of videos called Kid Songs, music videos for kids.

• 37:26Andrew Santino?

  Kids songs.

• 37:27Speaker 06

  Kids songs.

• 37:27Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. Like Kids Bop.

• 37:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, whatever. It's something like that. And this one was a circus themed one. And they were shooting at the, the Circus Vargas, which was on, it was not, it was, what do you call it when they're, they're not in season? Off season.

• 37:41Bobby Lee?

  Off season.

• 37:41Speaker 06

  Right. So, I know, it's hard. I'm getting old.

• 37:44Andrew Santino?

  I see why you're ending the show.

• 37:49Speaker 06

  That's pretty good.

• 37:49Andrew Santino?

  Thank you, thank you. Wait, wait, save it, come on, just finish the story. Don't attack me.

• 37:54Speaker 06

  So, uh, so it's just all these circus people and these kids and the, and the directors all coked up and it's all crazy. And I'm just a P A running around getting things, but it's like really, it's all circus people and the kids are running around. And then after a day of shooting, there were two clowns. And, uh, and after we, we wrapped, the clowns come up to me and they're like, you wanna get high? And I'm like, yeah, okay.

• 38:20Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 38:20Andrew Santino?

  Well, I'm a P A.

• 38:21Bobby Lee?

  I've never been high with a clown.

• 38:22Speaker 06

  Well, that's, that's the fucked up thing. Like we, let's go to our trailer. So I go to the clown trailer and they're in there. And the one dude just starts rolling and joy and I go like, hold on, you gotta take the makeup off.

• 38:35Andrew Santino?

  I can't be still staring at you guys in fucking clown makeup.

• 38:38Speaker 06

  Can't do the clown, full clown.

• 38:40Bobby Lee?

  Was the nose still on?

• 38:41Speaker 06

  Everything was still on.

• 38:43Bobby Lee?

  That's insane.

• 38:44Speaker 06

  So anyway, so I get another P A job for Mitzi and I didn't know it. I just got a job. You get into this, this circuit of P A's. And she was shooting at that time where, where, what is over there now? Where the Petri is, Petri. Used to be the House of Blues and before that it was a house. It was, it was called, it was, it was John Barrymore's old house, an old Hollywood house that Mitzi owned. And she put a restaurant in there called Barrymore's. And for a while there, no one would eat there.

• 39:12Bobby Lee?

  Was it good?

• 39:13Speaker 06

  I don't know. It was a full restaurant.

• 39:14Andrew Santino?

  No one would fucking eat there, man.

• 39:16Speaker 06

  Wow. Well, they tried to offer packages, like, you know, dinner and the show. So you, dinner and then you go to the main room show. But it was, it was a restaurant for a little while and there were production offices underneath it. And she was trying to produce the Comedy Store Channel. So she had all the guys that were working at that time, doing all kinds of sketches and all kinds of shit. It was this big undertaking.

• 39:37Bobby Lee?

  Ollie Joe Prater?

• 39:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, probably. I'm trying to remember who was, well, she was fucking Danny Stone at the time.

• 39:43Bobby Lee?

  Oh my God.

• 39:44Speaker 06

  Danny was like, you know, who, how are you? All he did was like, uh,

• 39:46Bobby Lee?

  Oh my God.

• 39:47Speaker 06

  Rodney Dangerfield.

• 39:48Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, he has that kind of vibe.

• 39:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, always wearing a suit and sweaty, bug eyed and you know, but.

• 39:54Bobby Lee?

  I heard Jimmy Schuber ate her pussy, but I don't know if I can.

• 39:56Andrew Santino?

  All right, Mark, finish your story. Yes, he, he diverts and it's.

• 40:00Bobby Lee?

  Sorry, sorry.

• 40:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, no Schuber will cop to that.

• 40:02Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 40:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, Schuber.

• 40:05Bobby Lee?

  Really?

• 40:05Speaker 06

  I think so.

• 40:06Bobby Lee?

  Oh, that was urban myth. Okay.

• 40:07Speaker 06

  No, no. He used to say, I had a pager on my dick. So.

• 40:12Bobby Lee?

  Wow, wow.

• 40:13Speaker 06

  But um, I don't want to talk out of school, but I think that's public information.

• 40:16Andrew Santino?

  Sure.

• 40:17Bobby Lee?

  Okay, good.

• 40:17Andrew Santino?

  It is now.

• 40:18Speaker 06

  So anyway, so I had auditioned for Mitzi.

• 40:20Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 40:21Speaker 06

  And I was running around doing P A on this weird shoot. You know who was around Charlie Barnett? Charlie Burnett?

• 40:26Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 40:26Speaker 06

  Remember the guy from Washington Square Park?

• 40:27Bobby Lee?

  Yep.

• 40:28Speaker 06

  He was in D C Cab, I think. He was a Comedy Store regular, old street performer. And I just remember he was around, Ali Joe was around, all of them. Jan Hart, Karen Haber, all the, that crew of the late eighties.

• 40:38Bobby Lee?

  Freddie Asparagus?

• 40:39Speaker 06

  No, he wasn't part of that.

• 40:40Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 40:41Speaker 06

  But I did, I did some Boy with Freddie once up at Crestille.

• 40:44Bobby Lee?

  Alright.

• 40:44Speaker 06

  But um.

• 40:44Bobby Lee?

  You know who that is?

• 40:45Andrew Santino?

  I know Freddie Asparagus, yeah. I've heard the name.

• 40:48Bobby Lee?

  Three Amigos.

• 40:49Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 40:50Bobby Lee?

  He played the bartender.

• 40:51Andrew Santino?

  He was, you know what? Yes.

• 40:52Bobby Lee?

  That line, that, that role was.

• 40:54Andrew Santino?

  Scene.

• 40:55Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Andrew Santino?

  Where he's like, uh, uh, I gotta get out of this town.

• 40:58Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:59Andrew Santino?

  It's too dangerous. I remember, yeah.

• 41:01Speaker 06

  He's a good guy.

• 41:02Bobby Lee?

  Great guy, yeah, there he is.

• 41:02Andrew Santino?

  He died, right?

• 41:03Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, he died, yeah, yeah.

• 41:04Speaker 06

  Okay, so anyway, so I know I'm in, like, I auditioned for Mitzi. All I want to be is a comic. So I'm like, I see her at these, at, you know, she's running around or moving slowly around in her boa.

• 41:17Andrew Santino?

  Sesshaying around, yeah.

• 41:19Speaker 06

  And I go, Mitzi, I finally get a minute. I'm like, Mitzi, I'm Marc Maron. Do you remember me? I auditioned for you, she, for you. She goes, oh, yeah, you're funny. Go talk to Becker and be a doorman.

• 41:30Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 41:31Speaker 06

  So I went up to Mike Becker's office.

• 41:32Bobby Lee?

  Was that a big deal back then?

• 41:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 41:34Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 41:35Speaker 06

  Because that was the entry level position.

• 41:36Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 41:37Speaker 06

  So like, so then, so I go meet with Becker and, and she's, I said, she wants me to doorman. He's like, alright. And.

• 41:45Andrew Santino?

  He didn't give a fuck.

• 41:46Speaker 06

  And then he's like, can you be head doorman? I'm like, yeah, sure. And I'm fucking in Chinatown buying jackets for guys. But uh, so that's how I got in.

• 41:53Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 41:54Speaker 06

  And what had happened where I was living. Ugh, so.

• 41:58Bobby Lee?

  Crestille.

• 41:58Andrew Santino?

  Wait, how old were you?

• 41:59Speaker 06

  This is before I moved to Crestille, because I was still at, they made me move to the couch.

• 42:03Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 42:03Speaker 06

  At Brill and Berg's, Berg's house. But then they just started bringing parties home, bringing chicks home, and they'd wake me up and Berg would be like, play some guitar. You know, I'm like, what am I doing?

• 42:12Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 42:13Speaker 06

  Why am I the, like, the bitch in this situation?

• 42:15Andrew Santino?

  Get us laid, dude.

• 42:16Bobby Lee?

  This is late eighties, right?

• 42:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, and I didn't know how to get an apartment because I was a moron. I was like a feral. And I'm like, I wanted to get in, I had to get out of there. So I go look at apartments, but I don't know how to look at apartments. And then like an apartment opens up down the hall. Some woman needs a roommate down the hall from Berg. So I go take this apartment and within days, you know, I'm, I'm doing blow. She's supposedly sober. I get her fucked up on blow. And like I drank all her champagne for her party. And then there was literally an intervention. Like her and her boyfriend and their friends said, you can't live here anymore.

• 42:48Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 42:49Speaker 06

  And I'm like, all right. And then, and then Mitzi was like, you can live at Crest Hill. And I'm like, great. So that's when I-

• 42:56Bobby Lee?

  Who was living there at the time, Crest Hill?

• 42:58Andrew Santino?

  Well, for people that don't know, Crest Hill is a house that the Comedy Store owned and Mitzi would house-

• 43:02Bobby Lee?

  More on the hillside of the store.

• 43:04Andrew Santino?

  It's right above the store.

• 43:05Speaker 06

  It was a great old place. Uh, at the time, it was funny because I got a really good room. The room right off the kitchen had its own bathroom. It was a good room. And then across the way, Todd, Todd Lemish, the Todd, Tamayo lived upstairs, Tamayo Tuki.

• 43:21Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 43:22Speaker 06

  And then across the hall, who the hell was that? Well, Todd, there was another Todd, the sound guy. He lived downstairs. And eventually Schubert was living upstairs in the porch room for a while. Nancy Redman was there for a minute.

• 43:35Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 43:35Speaker 06

  I'm trying to remember who lived in that main bedroom, but that was sort of the crew at the time. But I remember one time, because that's why, that's why Kennison was always up there and why I had to go get the booze and everything. Cause he was, you know, with Tamayo. And they were always broken up. So he would like come up there and we'd do blow for three days and he'd just end up like pounding on her door. You're like, Tamayo!

• 43:56Bobby Lee?

  Ridge, oh my God.

• 43:57Andrew Santino?

  Look at it.

• 43:58Bobby Lee?

  Are you from the future?

• 43:59Andrew Santino?

  No, it's a slick Ridge Wallet. And they don't just make wallets, by the way. They make luggage and premium everyday gear. But I'm telling you, these things are awesome.

• 44:06Bobby Lee?

  You don't have to tell me because I'm the one that uses Ridge Wallet.

• 44:10Andrew Santino?

  I know you do.

• 44:11Bobby Lee?

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• 44:27Andrew Santino?

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• 44:28Bobby Lee?

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• 44:29Andrew Santino?

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• 44:59Bobby Lee?

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• 45:12Andrew Santino?

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• 45:13Bobby Lee?

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• 45:15Andrew Santino?

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• 45:28Bobby Lee?

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• 45:35Andrew Santino?

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• 45:36Bobby Lee?

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• 45:44Andrew Santino?

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• 46:12Bobby Lee?

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• 46:19Andrew Santino?

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• 46:27Bobby Lee?

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• 46:31Andrew Santino?

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• 46:31Bobby Lee?

  When I went to Hawaii, you know, I hate shorts, by the way.

• 46:33Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you almost never wear them.

• 46:34Bobby Lee?

  I never wear them.

• 46:35Andrew Santino?

  Till you go on vacation.

• 46:35Bobby Lee?

  But I was like, how would I wear them? And I went to Chubby's and listen, when I wore these things, right? I didn't even notice I was wearing shorts. And they look so fashionably good. I wasn't self-conscious at all. And I like this expandable waist thing right here.

• 46:46Andrew Santino?

  I think it's really cool. By the way, our waist fluctuate. All right?

• 46:49Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 46:49Andrew Santino?

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• 47:09Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 47:09Andrew Santino?

  And the shorts are incredible. They also have the line Swim Collection, which I really love. Cuz I like changing swim trunks. Cuz I like swimming in my backyard. I'm a little swimmy boy, huh? I'm a little swimmy boy.

• 47:19Bobby Lee?

  I just like the classic look on them too. And whether you're suiting up for Cannonballs, which I loved, you know, Cannonballs.

• 47:25Andrew Santino?

  You're a big Cannonball guy.

• 47:26Bobby Lee?

  You're a cookout guy.

• 47:26Andrew Santino?

  I am a cookout guy.

• 47:27Bobby Lee?

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• 47:37Andrew Santino?

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• 47:52Speaker 06

  It was crazy. It was, it was, it was the last, I think, really crazy time when I was there. I talked about this recently with Andy Richter and it all sort of comes back to you. You know, cuz I, I mean, I've told some of these stories before, but it's like when you get back to them, it's sort of like, you know, you start, you start, you know.

• 48:07Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You start getting back into it.

• 48:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah. But it was just, it was just so crazy because no, Monday night was no cover night, right?

• 48:15Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 48:16Speaker 06

  So, so the way that worked was like all the rooms were open. They had to buy drinks. But that was like Sam night. So Sam would take over the main room. Monday night, he'd show up like 10:30, 11.

• 48:29Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 48:29Speaker 06

  And then it was just all the freaks from Hollywood would converge. It was just such.

• 48:33Bobby Lee?

  Stevie Nicks, everyone, right?

• 48:34Speaker 06

  Well, it was like more, it was porn stars occasionally, you know? People would come and Sam would have to, you know, put on a, like he was a good guy show for him. I remember, you know, one time like, I was such a fucking cocky dick. Like one time, uh, in the kitchen, like, uh, they Clapton and Phil Collins had come to see Sam.

• 48:55Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 48:55Speaker 06

  And I don't give a fuck about Collins and I don't really give a

• 48:58Andrew Santino?

  But Clapton a little bit.

• 48:59Speaker 06

  A little, but not much, you know, so.

• 49:01Bobby Lee?

  What? Eric Clapton?

• 49:04Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 49:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, but he's Eric Clapton, but like, I'm a, I'm a guitar player, so I have him in a certain place.

• 49:10Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 49:10Speaker 06

  I, I tend to play more like him than I, I want to, but I, whatever. So he's back there.

• 49:15Bobby Lee?

  James Taylor, would you, James Taylor, is somebody that, would you be impressed by him?

• 49:18Speaker 06

  I interviewed him.

• 49:19Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 49:19Speaker 06

  Uh, he's, he's a lot darker than you think.

• 49:22Andrew Santino?

  Is it? Yeah.

• 49:23Bobby Lee?

  What is fire and rain?

• 49:24Speaker 06

  Dude, full on depressive junkie for years, couldn't get out from under it, dude.

• 49:30Bobby Lee?

  Wow, wow, wow.

• 49:30Speaker 06

  Couldn't get out from under it.

• 49:31Andrew Santino?

  Isn't that Clapton's story too?

• 49:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, but like Clapton.

• 49:34Andrew Santino?

  Dark, dark guy.

• 49:35Speaker 06

  Yeah, I guess, but why does he play, he just, he's kind of a hack, you know?

• 49:39Andrew Santino?

  I love this. Clapton is a hack. I love that.

• 49:41Speaker 06

  A blues hack, yeah, a bit.

• 49:43Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 49:43Speaker 06

  I mean, he had pretty good phrasing and, but, but I think that his best work oddly was with like John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers, the first band he was in. When he first realized like, if I just crank this, I can still play these old dumb blues licks and sound like a genius. So.

• 49:59Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 49:59Speaker 06

  What?

• 50:00Bobby Lee?

  I love you.

• 50:00Speaker 06

  He'll cop to that.

• 50:01Andrew Santino?

  Joe Bonamassa.

• 50:03Speaker 06

  Bonamassa is a savant, but I don't know who he is. Do you?

• 50:06Andrew Santino?

  No, but, but that's kind of why I like him.

• 50:08Speaker 06

  That's why I don't like him.

• 50:09Andrew Santino?

  You think he keeps him hid, you keep, he keeps himself hidden in, in an order for us to not find out?

• 50:14Speaker 06

  I just think he's a, a sort of like naturally gifted guitar player.

• 50:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 50:20Speaker 06

  Who can play the fuck out of anything and he's a good mimic and he's like, you know, he can play like anybody.

• 50:27Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 50:27Speaker 06

  But like, I don't, if you can fake feeling, who do I believe?

• 50:33Andrew Santino?

  Ah.

• 50:34Speaker 06

  You know, like you gotta figure like Freddie King.

• 50:36Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 50:36Speaker 06

  Could only play Freddie King. And when Freddie King plays Freddie King, you're like, holy fuck. This guy's really in it. So Bonamassa can play exactly like Freddie King. I'm like, yeah, but you're not Freddie King. It sounds right.

• 50:48Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 50:49Speaker 06

  But the feeling's not there. Right.

• 50:51Andrew Santino?

  Well, who's the? Yeah. Who's your, who's your, who's your god then? Who's the guitar god?

• 50:57Speaker 06

  Well, that's a good question.

• 50:58Andrew Santino?

  Or who are the gods, plural then? Who are the three gods? If there's a little Mount Rushmore, a little whatever, who, three, four gods?

• 51:05Bobby Lee?

  In terms of guitar playing?

• 51:06Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 51:06Bobby Lee?

  Hendrix?

• 51:07Speaker 06

  Look, you know, in terms of, uh, blues, you know, I'll go with those old guys. You know, I like Freddie and I like Albert and I like, um, who else do I listen to?

• 51:18Bobby Lee?

  Sixth names? Give me the last name too, man.

• 51:20Speaker 06

  But I like Helen Wolfe, I like his guitarist, Hubert someone. I like, uh, I, what?

• 51:26Bobby Lee?

  He's just deep to cut, like.

• 51:28Speaker 06

  I'm sorry.

• 51:29Bobby Lee?

  Any of these fucking Albert whoms?

• 51:30Speaker 06

  Albert King?

• 51:31Bobby Lee?

  Oh.

• 51:31Speaker 06

  Albert King was Stevie Ray's guy.

• 51:33Bobby Lee?

  What are you looking at me for?

• 51:33Andrew Santino?

  You know Albert King.

• 51:35Speaker 06

  He was Stevie Ray's guy.

• 51:36Andrew Santino?

  You do.

• 51:36Bobby Lee?

  Okay, yeah, yeah.

• 51:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, and Freddie King, like, was pretty, pretty great. He's Clapton's guy. But I like, I like dirty shit. I like Hound Dog Taylor.

• 51:44Bobby Lee?

  Oh, wow.

• 51:45Speaker 06

  That, I mean, I like dirty fucking blues. I, I'm a big Keith Richards guy and he's not really a lead player, but I love him.

• 51:51Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 51:52Speaker 06

  I like Hendrix a lot. I mean, you can listen to Hendrix, that stuff's crazy.

• 51:55Andrew Santino?

  It's still sick.

• 51:55Speaker 06

  But he's doing, buddy, it's so funny, I saw Buddy, uh, Buddy Guy, you know? Cause, you know, Hendrix got a lot of Buddy Guy in him. And, uh, it was just, it was, it was very funny when I saw Buddy Guy and Junior Wells when I was in college at, in, uh, in Cambridge. They were both shitfaced, it was second show. And Buddy was like, you like Hendrix? I'll show you Hendrix. And he just started doing these looks, I'm like, holy shit, those are your, those are your licks? You know, and, but Hendrix was a genius.

• 52:21Bobby Lee?

  You don't like pop bands then? Like when Nirvana came about, did you like it?

• 52:26Speaker 06

  That's pop? No, I like Nirvana, sure.

• 52:27Bobby Lee?

  Okay, okay.

• 52:28Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, I love, I listen to.

• 52:29Andrew Santino?

  They're not pop?

• 52:30Bobby Lee?

  Popular music.

• 52:31Andrew Santino?

  Well, they became very popular.

• 52:32Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:32Speaker 06

  No, no, I listen to all the music, dude. I'm a big Iggy Pop fan.

• 52:35Bobby Lee?

  Okay, good.

• 52:36Speaker 06

  Big Jesus fan.

• 52:36Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 52:36Andrew Santino?

  Did you ever find yourself?

• 52:38Speaker 06

  I used to listen to, like, I was listening to Skinnerd the other day. I grew up in New Mexico, dude, so I had to.

• 52:43Bobby Lee?

  Alright, dude.

• 52:45Speaker 06

  But I knew a guy at a record store who was like one of these like weirdo art guys, Steve LaRue. And he turned me on, on, onto all the sort of art rock stuff and Bowie and then, but on the radio, you were Skinnerd and all that other shit. So I'm pretty well versed in all of it. What do I go back to the most? I think I, honestly, I, I listen to more Stones than, than I just.

• 53:03Andrew Santino?

  Stones more than anything.

• 53:05Speaker 06

  Well, I go back to the, ACDC. Huge Angus Young fan. He's definitely one of my guys.

• 53:09Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 53:09Speaker 06

  Angus Young on the lead guitar.

• 53:12Andrew Santino?

  And a fucking performer, no less.

• 53:13Speaker 06

  But you can't beat that guy. And his licks are just straight up blues licks, but man, he's the, he's one of the best.

• 53:19Bobby Lee?

  Good performer.

• 53:20Speaker 06

  Fuck it. He's a great guitar player.

• 53:21Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 53:22Speaker 06

  Great guitar.

• 53:23Andrew Santino?

  Did you find yourself ever liking John Prine or no?

• 53:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, sure. I like John Prine.

• 53:27Andrew Santino?

  I could see you liking him.

• 53:28Speaker 06

  Oh, he's good. I interviewed him. Great guy.

• 53:30Andrew Santino?

  Because I feel like he's kind of your style of, of guy where, uh, he doesn't.

• 53:34Speaker 06

  Clever. He's clever.

• 53:35Andrew Santino?

  He, no, no, that's not what I would say. I would say, no, he just doesn't give a fuck. Uh, if it, if it feels like it's supposed to be the right way. If it's like, I'll do it my way.

• 53:46Speaker 06

  He does it his way and, and some of his songs are fucking great.

• 53:50Andrew Santino?

  Oh, they're.

• 53:50Speaker 06

  Angel from Montgomery.

• 53:52Bobby Lee?

  All right. Why, why don't you end your podcast?

• 53:56Andrew Santino?

  Sorry about that, Mark.

• 53:56Speaker 06

  Oh, let's get back to what we started with.

• 53:58Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, let's go with the original.

• 53:59Speaker 06

  I don't know what.

• 53:59Bobby Lee?

  I get, I drifted from it. It's just like John Prine, this and that, feeling. I don't know about that.

• 54:05Andrew Santino?

  Well, we're just chatting.

• 54:06Bobby Lee?

  I don't like it. Let's go to what you.

• 54:08Andrew Santino?

  Fuck you.

• 54:08Speaker 06

  The thing with Joe, the thing with Joe.

• 54:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 54:12Speaker 06

  Is I don't know that we have a lot to talk about because of my, you know, my idea of what he's done to comedy.

• 54:20Andrew Santino?

  Sure.

• 54:20Speaker 06

  And I, I don't think it's great. I think that it's tribalized and I think that, you know, he's created a, a sort of army of people that think they know comedy, but they only know a specific thing. And what they think is good is not necessarily good. It may be what they're like, what they like. But on the outside of that, most of this sort of sensitive weirdos that we all grew up with in comedy have been sort of pushed aside and the space for them has become limited and it's a little.

• 54:48Bobby Lee?

  There was a time though, that alt comedy was the.

• 54:51Speaker 06

  Not alt comedy. I'm not even talking about the alt people.

• 54:54Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 54:54Speaker 06

  I'm talking about just like interesting standups.

• 54:58Bobby Lee?

  Right.

• 54:58Speaker 06

  You know, weirdos.

• 54:59Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. Like Brent Weinbach has a great special.

• 55:01Andrew Santino?

  Sure.

• 55:02Bobby Lee?

  I think he's so weird.

• 55:03Speaker 06

  Joe Mandy?

• 55:03Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, Joe Mandy.

• 55:04Speaker 06

  You know, and now it's like kind of this, you know, this, there's this cultural idea of what comedy is.

• 55:10Andrew Santino?

  Is there a world? And I understand what you're, I get your perspective.

• 55:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 55:14Andrew Santino?

  Is there a world where both these things exist and it doesn't fucking matter?

• 55:17Speaker 06

  They do.

• 55:17Andrew Santino?

  So this is what I always say, like, I get that you don't like that world. That's part of why I love you, because you're like, fuck that and you'll shit on it. And that's what's great about comedy.

• 55:27Speaker 06

  There's some good comics in there, and there is a lot of middle section. There's a lot, I, I believe that we all exist in the same world.

• 55:32Andrew Santino?

  And it doesn't matter, is my point. I, I get why you-

• 55:34Speaker 06

  It's, it's not all on him.

• 55:37Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no.

• 55:37Speaker 06

  The culture has changed.

• 55:39Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 55:39Speaker 06

  And, and, you know, and I don't necessarily think for the better. But it's changed in a lot of ways in that, look, you know, there are comics that only drive clips. And, and that, you know, only do crowd work and they don't care if they do other people's jokes. Because the traction is with the clip. And what they don't realize, I think, and what a lot of people don't realize, is that you're just, you're, you're the, you're the internet's bitch. You're the platform's bitch. So in the sense that if you're not able to fucking confidently do an hour without worrying about getting clips so you can get people, come see you to do crowd work.

• 56:12Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 56:13Speaker 06

  What are you really? What is your voice? Who do you work for? You'd like to think you're working for yourself.

• 56:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 56:18Speaker 06

  But you're just a platform bitch who doesn't really need to find who they are up there, do anything interesting at all. That's a problem.

• 56:25Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 56:25Speaker 06

  So, and the bigger problem about what you're saying, I think we all still do exist, but the nature of the comedy business is fragmented and some of it's tribalized. But there used to be a lot more weirdos around.

• 56:36Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 56:37Speaker 06

  Who were kind of exciting and interesting and took it a different place. I would argue with just talky-talk comedy, there's not that many people bringing it to a different place, dude.

• 56:47Andrew Santino?

  Right. Well, there's, there is some good ones that like, I think that, I think that kid, KC Rocket's really entertaining and fun and different and unique. I think they're, they're there, right? I think the problem is, you were, there's so much sludge, there's so much shit, there's way more noise than we've ever fucking seen.

• 57:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 57:02Andrew Santino?

  So it's hard to appreciate or even care because all that's really being shown is kind of the constant like, give it to him, give it to him, give it to him, give it to him. So I get-

• 57:10Speaker 06

  I'm tired of the attitude.

• 57:13Andrew Santino?

  I thought you were gonna say violence in this country.

• 57:15Speaker 06

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm tired, they come up back to LA. One guy, I wanna name his name, and go, "Oh, you're pretty, it seemed like you're thriving." He goes, "I'm killing it."

• 57:25Andrew Santino?

  Killing it, yeah.

• 57:26Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? And I'm like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, dude." "You moved out because you couldn't survive here."

• 57:30Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 57:31Speaker 06

  This is a different...

• 57:33Andrew Santino?

  It's an animal.

• 57:33Speaker 06

  It's an animal.

• 57:34Andrew Santino?

  Well, I think the weirdos you're referring to, by the way, were birthed, and I defend this to, I'm fucking blue in the face, were birthed at the Comedy Store.

• 57:40Speaker 06

  A lot of them.

• 57:41Andrew Santino?

  I, I think the biggest, the biggest mistake that's made whenever I go back east is, you know, the New York guys that I have very close friends out there, they all, they, you know, they make fun of the store and blah, blah, blah, blah for all the years. And I'm always like, "Dude, you'll never find a bigger group of fucking lunatic all over the mappers." It's like, when I started, when I moved here in 06, it was wackadoo central.

• 58:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:01Andrew Santino?

  The late nights were fucking insane.

• 58:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:03Andrew Santino?

  In fact, the front patio, you were like, "Is this illegal, whatever this is?"

• 58:07Speaker 06

  Do these people live here?

• 58:08Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, this is crazy. And I think I always push, I was like, "People don't know that about the store." They think they hear this like corporate bro, bro, and that happens internally in LA a lot too, where they're like, "The store is a fucking, you know, whatever, sellout factory of fucking bro comics." Not anymore. No, but there was a wash of it that came through, and I think... Yeah, Joe, they moved to Austin.

• 58:29Andrew Santino?

  No, I think, I think, I think even, I think even, even up to a few years, even when I was starting out, and the Largo guys or the Eastside guys, if I go do Eastside shows, they would make fun of me going back, because I had a lot of good friends that were Eastside guys.

• 58:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 58:42Andrew Santino?

  And we started together.

• 58:43Speaker 06

  That's because they couldn't cut it, couldn't cut it at the store.

• 58:45Andrew Santino?

  I know, but they still would hate on me for going, they'd go, they'd be like, "Why the fuck you going there, Santino? It's all fucking loo-" And I hate it, because I was like, "You don't get it, that place is diverse and insane and weird."

• 58:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, but, but the bottom line is, you gotta do the job.

• 58:56Andrew Santino?

  You gotta do the job.

• 58:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, Eastside, you don't gotta do the job.

• 58:59Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 58:59Speaker 06

  You got a bunch of like-minded people that'll sort of watch you worm your way through a personal story that goes nowhere.

• 59:05Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 59:05Speaker 06

  And, and find, you know, love. The, the, the whole issue, and whatever alternative comedy was, it didn't deliver the goods, because it ain't around anymore. And that weird argument, it wasn't that alternative comics were open micers, they were just trying to do something different.

• 59:21Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 59:21Speaker 06

  But if you're brought up with the word- Working ethic of like, you know, you open, you middle, you headline and then you fucking do the job. That that wasn't the same sense of of of purpose. So when you do the store and the reason why I've never stopped doing it. And I was always a club comic from the beginning, but I.

• 59:37Bobby Lee?

  Well, you're like Blade, though. You live in both worlds.

• 59:39Speaker 06

  That's right. Well, I helped build the alternative world in New York, but.

• 59:43Bobby Lee?

  But I'm just saying, there's some comics like you that do both.

• 59:46Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 59:46Bobby Lee?

  I wonder why. I mean, there's you. I think Zach lives in both, Gaffinakis. Patton Oswalt lives in both.

• 59:52Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 59:52Bobby Lee?

  But some of them don't live in both.

• 59:54Speaker 06

  Well, some of them don't live anywhere anymore. I'm not sure what they're doing.

• 59:58Speaker 06

  But.

• 59:59Andrew Santino?

  They're back on that couch, baby.

• 1:00:00Speaker 06

  But but the truth is, is that like, in my mind, it's like, you got to be able to do the job for whoever.

• 1:00:05Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:00:05Speaker 06

  So like the idea, and sometimes at the store, it's hard. It's not always easy at the store.

• 1:00:09Andrew Santino?

  There's tough.

• 1:00:10Speaker 06

  There's a lot of times where most of the room doesn't know who the fuck I am, but that's the job.

• 1:00:14Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:00:15Speaker 06

  I mean, you know, I do have my my people and I go do theaters and stuff.

• 1:00:19Bobby Lee?

  Of course.

• 1:00:19Speaker 06

  But you want to go put yourself through the, I still have that weird ethic. It's like, because a lot of people are like, why would you go to the store anymore? I'm like, I don't know. Because I gotta do the job.

• 1:00:28Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:29Speaker 06

  And I've, it's a way to make, to know whether shit really works. If you can make it work over there.

• 1:00:34Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:34Speaker 06

  It's gonna work anywhere.

• 1:00:36Andrew Santino?

  I think that's it. I think everyone that got successful at the store that became a store person or a store name.

• 1:00:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Andrew Santino?

  They have that like unrelenting, I have to be a comedian. I have to do it.

• 1:00:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:00:47Andrew Santino?

  Like even when your. When wives and girlfriends and friends are like, what are you going to do? You're going to the fucking now?

• 1:00:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's why I don't have any of those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:57Bobby Lee?

  So you want to transition to stick?

• 1:00:58Andrew Santino?

  Real fast. Yeah.

• 1:01:00Bobby Lee?

  Well, just. I can, I can even tell you what it is.

• 1:01:02Andrew Santino?

  Go ahead.

• 1:01:04Bobby Lee?

  He was a very masterful golf player.

• 1:01:06Speaker 06

  I know.

• 1:01:06Bobby Lee?

  You do?

• 1:01:07Speaker 06

  I do. I know he's a good golf player.

• 1:01:08Bobby Lee?

  He's also a great bowler. He does. He's good at everything.

• 1:01:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's like, he's got all those white guy sports down.

• 1:01:13Bobby Lee?

  Right, right, right. He does, right.

• 1:01:14Andrew Santino?

  I have some of the black ones.

• 1:01:17Bobby Lee?

  And he's also, I don't know if you know this.

• 1:01:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:20Bobby Lee?

  Great actor.

• 1:01:21Andrew Santino?

  Okay, that's not, that part's not.

• 1:01:22Bobby Lee?

  You're no, you're a great.

• 1:01:23Speaker 06

  I think you are.

• 1:01:24Bobby Lee?

  We've talked about this before. You're a great actor.

• 1:01:26Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, yeah, but anyway.

• 1:01:27Bobby Lee?

  He should have gotten something instead.

• 1:01:28Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but it has nothing to do with you.

• 1:01:30Speaker 06

  I kept telling them, you know, where's Andrew?

• 1:01:32Andrew Santino?

  They kept saying, no, thanks, no, thanks, no, thanks. I was mad. We saw the show stick. It's a great show. It's on Apple. Uh, of course, our good friend Mark Maron is on it with.

• 1:01:41Speaker 06

  You wouldn't have played my part, though.

• 1:01:43Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 1:01:43Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:01:43Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:01:44Bobby Lee?

  You would have played Owen's part.

• 1:01:45Speaker 06

  That was a tough sell.

• 1:01:46Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Speaker 06

  I think it was attached early.

• 1:01:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it was either me or Owen, basically.

• 1:01:49Bobby Lee?

  No.

• 1:01:50Andrew Santino?

  There was no other part. The joke is, there's no other parts. It's a young, it's Owen and a young child and him. It's like a fucking.

• 1:01:56Bobby Lee?

  There was no one liner?

• 1:01:57Speaker 06

  You could have easily done Timothy Olyphant's role.

• 1:02:00Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, fuck you, Timothy.

• 1:02:01Speaker 06

  And you could have, uh, you could have done the, the kid's dad's role, too.

• 1:02:06Andrew Santino?

  Who's that? What's his name?

• 1:02:07Speaker 06

  I forget the actor. He's great. But I mean, I'm just thinking like you could have done those.

• 1:02:10Andrew Santino?

  Thanks a lot. Recommend. I'm the only, I'm the only fucking comedian that, me and Nate Bargatze, the only comedians that golf.

• 1:02:16Speaker 06

  It's so funny. I sent Nate a picture of, uh, me and, uh, and Owen. No, I don't even know the guy's name.

• 1:02:21Andrew Santino?

  This is gonna piss me the fuck off, I bet.

• 1:02:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:02:23Andrew Santino?

  Be a guy that I like.

• 1:02:24Speaker 06

  Well, I'm sure you like him. I, the fact that I can't remember his name is not great, but hold on, let me see if I can find it. Holy shit, I didn't know that him and I talked.

• 1:02:32Bobby Lee?

  So Happy Gilmore 2, you should have gotten a real golf part in that, too.

• 1:02:35Speaker 06

  Yeah, why didn't you get a role in that?

• 1:02:36Andrew Santino?

  Not gonna say anything bad right now if Sandro's listening, okay? Thank you, Adam. Thank you for everything.

• 1:02:40Bobby Lee?

  Thank you for everything. Thank you, Adam.

• 1:02:41Andrew Santino?

  As if Adam would ever fucking hear this. No. You know what's so funny? He might, he's got his finger on the pulse. He's pretty, he's not listening to our show. He's pretty good, though. Adam knows.

• 1:02:50Bobby Lee?

  He's so good.

• 1:02:50Andrew Santino?

  Adam knows.

• 1:02:51Bobby Lee?

  He's smart.

• 1:02:52Speaker 06

  I'll be honest with you. I thought that last special that Josh Safdie directed was the, one of the best things I've ever seen.

• 1:02:58Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, fact.

• 1:02:59Speaker 06

  It was like. And nobody watched it. And it was so weird and it was so clear that, that he had an agreement with Adam to be like, I'm gonna do some shit during the show.

• 1:03:08Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:08Speaker 06

  He's just gonna react to it.

• 1:03:09Andrew Santino?

  Well, the, the special before that got a lot of love because it was more.

• 1:03:14Andrew Santino?

  Oh, that's Kalamorokawa.

• 1:03:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, so Kalamorokawa, so I sent that picture to Nate and Nate says, "This is my happiest day."

• 1:03:20Andrew Santino?

  Oh, that's

• 1:03:21Speaker 06

  I never in a million years thought I would see this picture.

• 1:03:23Andrew Santino?

  You with Kalamorokawa is so funny. And Kalamorokawa, of course, is.

• 1:03:27Bobby Lee?

  A human.

• 1:03:28Andrew Santino?

  Asian. Yeah, Asian. He's like you, bud.

• 1:03:30Bobby Lee?

  Damn it, I got it right.

• 1:03:31Andrew Santino?

  Just like you, big guy.

• 1:03:32Bobby Lee?

  It's like if you got a photo with Thierry Henry or something.

• 1:03:35Andrew Santino?

  It would change your life.

• 1:03:36Bobby Lee?

  It would piss me off.

• 1:03:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. God, I hope I do one day.

• 1:03:40Bobby Lee?

  He's one of the greatest French

• 1:03:41Andrew Santino?

  Soccer players.

• 1:03:42Bobby Lee?

  Soccer players of all time.

• 1:03:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'm not a sports guy in any way.

• 1:03:44Bobby Lee?

  I'm just saying, if you had

• 1:03:45Andrew Santino?

  I know that. Well, golf's not a sport. It's an activity.

• 1:03:48Speaker 06

  But I mean, I'm athletic, but I don't do

• 1:03:50Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, we get it.

• 1:03:51Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:03:52Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 1:03:52Andrew Santino?

  He has been working out a lot more than usual.

• 1:03:54Bobby Lee?

  I know. Look at your legs.

• 1:03:55Andrew Santino?

  I thought we were cutting down on the zins, though. We're not.

• 1:04:00Andrew Santino?

  The no is, "No, we're not." And we're not gonna

• 1:04:03Speaker 06

  Now I'm starting to see them all around my yard because I don't even spit them in the right place. I'm just like, now, you know, you got a problem where you're like, "Is that a zin?"

• 1:04:12Bobby Lee?

  Why did it

• 1:04:12Speaker 06

  Under my pillow?

• 1:04:13Andrew Santino?

  My buddy told me.

• 1:04:13Bobby Lee?

  Why did it end your podcast?

• 1:04:15Andrew Santino?

  Timeout. Hold on.

• 1:04:16Speaker 06

  Finish this, the stick thing.

• 1:04:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, we're gonna get there.

• 1:04:18Speaker 06

  The interesting

• 1:04:19Bobby Lee?

  Am I a bad interviewer?

• 1:04:20Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:04:20Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no. No, no, no.

• 1:04:21Speaker 06

  I'll be honest with you about the stick casting. For me.

• 1:04:25Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:26Speaker 06

  Is that like, okay, so I get offered that role of Mitch. And it's the role of a caddy. So I immediately said, like, I read some of the scripts. I'm like, "I don't know anything about golf." And they were, and I was basically saying, "No, I can't do it. I don't want to do it." And they're like, "Doesn't matter." And I'm like, "Okay, but, you know, I have a podcast. I can't do it." And they're like, "No, we'll figure it out." And I'm like, "Okay." And I kept telling them I couldn't do it, but ultimately what became appealing was a couple of things, that if I want to act, I should do it. You know what I mean?

• 1:04:57Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:57Speaker 06

  The business is so anemic now. If you get an offer and you say no, you're like, "All right, well, then we're, then you shouldn't do anything."

• 1:05:04Andrew Santino?

  Right, because this is it.

• 1:05:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's one of them.

• 1:05:07Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:07Speaker 06

  But the thing that was appealing to me was outside of the, I don't really need to play golf in it.

• 1:05:11Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 1:05:12Speaker 06

  But the friendship between two guys who are sad for very deep reasons and have stuck by each other for this long through thick and thin and through these emotional cycles, well, that was kind of compelling to me to be able to play that. And I thought I could play that. And the nature of a caddy is like fundamentally codependent. I mean, you're there to service the dude.

• 1:05:34Andrew Santino?

  Yep.

• 1:05:35Speaker 06

  So that dynamic with Owen, I thought was really interesting and could be kinda touching. And that was really what drove me to it. And I learned enough about golf to sell it, but it wasn't on me to carry the golf of that show.

• 1:05:51Andrew Santino?

  Pun intended, carry as a candidate. Yeah, you didn't have to carry the golf of the show. But it didn't matter because honestly, like anything else.

• 1:05:56Bobby Lee?

  He got a straight offer, bro.

• 1:05:58Andrew Santino?

  What's that?

• 1:05:59Bobby Lee?

  Straight offer.

• 1:05:59Andrew Santino?

  Can I finish the thing with him and I so we can have a good, you know what I mean? A good rapport out of it? In the middle of the, in the middle of the thing. Am I a bad interviewer to the guys in the booth? No, you're the best. Anyway.

• 1:06:11Speaker 06

  It's a conversation, Bobby.

• 1:06:12Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 1:06:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:06:13Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, ask away, whatever else.

• 1:06:15Speaker 06

  No, go ahead, no.

• 1:06:16Andrew Santino?

  No, no, well, we were gonna tie it up, but it's.

• 1:06:18Bobby Lee?

  Tie it up, dude, put a button in it.

• 1:06:19Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. Put, you see a button in it? You see how good he is at the thing?

• 1:06:22Speaker 06

  On it, yeah.

• 1:06:23Andrew Santino?

  Fuck, dude.

• 1:06:24Speaker 06

  It's good. I think this whole comedy team thing works for you guys.

• 1:06:27Andrew Santino?

  And it really does.

• 1:06:28Speaker 06

  It does, yeah.

• 1:06:28Andrew Santino?

  We're not, we don't, we're our own little ships and nobody wants to be on these, on this boat, by the way. Like, when people say like, you know, those worlds have been kind of, um, I don't wanna say like corporatized or whatever, eaten alive by other bigger things.

• 1:06:45Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:06:46Andrew Santino?

  And Bobby sometimes will say, how come nobody wants to buy our show?

• 1:06:49Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:06:50Andrew Santino?

  And I'll say, buddy, we don't, we're not really sellable. We're not really like.

• 1:06:53Speaker 06

  No, but you, thank God, because now you just run your own ship and cash your own checks.

• 1:06:57Andrew Santino?

  Whenever someone says, this is kinda funny, we don't ever have politics on the show. We never do, because we just are like, that's not for us.

• 1:07:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:03Andrew Santino?

  Go over there.

• 1:07:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:04Andrew Santino?

  I don't like it on this show. And we had a few offers of like people, politicians, wanted to come on the show. None of the big ones.

• 1:07:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:12Andrew Santino?

  But anyway.

• 1:07:13Speaker 06

  I only did a sitting president.

• 1:07:14Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I know, we remember.

• 1:07:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:16Andrew Santino?

  But it was unfortunate because it was the.

• 1:07:19Speaker 06

  What?

• 1:07:19Andrew Santino?

  It was the.

• 1:07:20Speaker 06

  The black one?

• 1:07:20Andrew Santino?

  It was the black one, yeah. You said it, not me, I, you're the one, take it away, Mark.

• 1:07:24Speaker 06

  He was great.

• 1:07:25Andrew Santino?

  No, he was fucking amazing, one of the best interviews of all time. No, but I said, I said we shouldn't have politicians on, you know, he obviously agreed, he's like, yeah, I don't want that shit on here. And then I also thought, had they seen this show? This is not.

• 1:07:36Speaker 06

  But that's the thing, they don't give a fuck. All they want is your audience.

• 1:07:39Andrew Santino?

  That's right.

• 1:07:40Speaker 06

  They don't give a fuck.

• 1:07:40Andrew Santino?

  Well, that's what's so sad.

• 1:07:41Speaker 06

  Because politicians will talk right through you.

• 1:07:43Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:07:43Speaker 06

  They don't give a shit.

• 1:07:44Andrew Santino?

  They're not listening.

• 1:07:44Speaker 06

  They're gonna say what they wanna say no matter what.

• 1:07:46Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:07:46Speaker 06

  And they're gonna, you know, they're, and you can say whatever you want and they'll be like, yes, but I'm going to say this now.

• 1:07:50Andrew Santino?

  Right. I'm gonna say what I wanna say.

• 1:07:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:52Andrew Santino?

  And also, why'd you quit your podcast?

• 1:07:56Speaker 06

  That's Bobby's question.

• 1:07:57Andrew Santino?

  I know, but Bobby, go ahead and ask it.

• 1:07:59Bobby Lee?

  Well, because, um.

• 1:08:00Andrew Santino?

  I texted you, didn't I? And what did I say?

• 1:08:01Speaker 06

  He said.

• 1:08:02Andrew Santino?

  It was very nice.

• 1:08:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, he said, congratulations.

• 1:08:04Andrew Santino?

  I said, thank you, Podfather. Congratulations. And good luck in the future.

• 1:08:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:08:08Bobby Lee?

  Did I say anything?

• 1:08:09Andrew Santino?

  No, you fucking did. Of course you didn't text.

• 1:08:10Speaker 06

  No, you were like, why?

• 1:08:14Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, that's all. Yeah, yeah. Why? I'll tell you why I was mystified by it. Is that right, the word?

• 1:08:19Speaker 06

  Sure. That works.

• 1:08:21Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I love when he tries. It did work, but I love it.

• 1:08:23Speaker 06

  If it were the 40s, you guys would be the best team. Because you'd be like, what, Bobby?

• 1:08:30Bobby Lee?

  All right.

• 1:08:30Andrew Santino?

  Don't you think we're a good throwback to old comedy teams?

• 1:08:33Speaker 06

  That wasn't even an Asian thing.

• 1:08:34Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 1:08:34Speaker 06

  Okay. That was just a tone.

• 1:08:35Bobby Lee?

  Sounded like Asian.

• 1:08:36Speaker 06

  No, it was just a.

• 1:08:38Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah. I've heard villagers say that.

• 1:08:41Andrew Santino?

  We are like a good comedy duo from the old days.

• 1:08:43Speaker 06

  Totally.

• 1:08:43Andrew Santino?

  Of like the old stupid wackadoo.

• 1:08:45Speaker 06

  You're the straight guy and he's the wacky guy.

• 1:08:47Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:08:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:08:48Bobby Lee?

  Anyway.

• 1:08:49Speaker 06

  It, um, you're like Marty Allen.

• 1:08:51Andrew Santino?

  Go ahead, wacky guy.

• 1:08:52Bobby Lee?

  Hello there.

• 1:08:54Speaker 06

  That's Marty Allen.

• 1:08:55Bobby Lee?

  Hello there.

• 1:08:56Andrew Santino?

  See, that was racist. Do you see what he did?

• 1:08:57Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I see what this is now.

• 1:08:59Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:59Speaker 06

  No, no, that's.

• 1:09:00Bobby Lee?

  It's a team up. It's an old school team up.

• 1:09:03Andrew Santino?

  It's a team them up.

• 1:09:03Speaker 06

  Go ahead, Bobby. Lee's be serious.

• 1:09:05Bobby Lee?

  So let's be serious for a second. Um, uh, cause you've had, I think, the best guests, I mean, you could imagine.

• 1:09:11Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:09:11Bobby Lee?

  Um, you've had Leo, right? Brad Pitt.

• 1:09:14Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:09:15Bobby Lee?

  Barack Obama.

• 1:09:16Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:09:16Andrew Santino?

  In that order, by the way.

• 1:09:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:09:18Andrew Santino?

  It goes Leo, Brad Pitt, Barack Obama.

• 1:09:20Speaker 06

  The best, one of the best moments of the podcast, we had Barack Obama on and then President Obama. And then we did, me and my producer did a sort of post-talk about what it was like to have the president on. And people were like, who are you gonna put on after that? And we were like, I think Rich Voss.

• 1:09:36Bobby Lee?

  Wow, wow, wow. Rich Voss is very funny. Little drop, though.

• 1:09:40Speaker 06

  The best.

• 1:09:40Andrew Santino?

  A little drop from the President of the United States?

• 1:09:43Speaker 06

  Voss is so funny. I, you know, I've known him forever.

• 1:09:46Andrew Santino?

  He's so funny.

• 1:09:46Speaker 06

  He's so funny. I, I knew him when I was starting out in Boston. He used to come up from New York. And back then he had like this Jerry curl, Italian ponytail, little Italian horn necklace. So, but he was always something. But it was so funny. I had a great interaction with him. Cause you know, he knows Norton and I'm, you know, I'm friends with Norton and I haven't talked to Norton in a while. And I saw Voss at the Comedy Store and I'm like, how's Jimmy doing? Is Jimmy doing all right? How'd I heard from him? And he goes, Jimmy's great. Uh, he's got a beautiful wife with a huge cock.

• 1:10:18Andrew Santino?

  All true.

• 1:10:19Bobby Lee?

  All true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:21Andrew Santino?

  Why'd you make the decision?

• 1:10:22Speaker 06

  Your hair looks good, buddy.

• 1:10:24Bobby Lee?

  Please stop.

• 1:10:25Speaker 06

  It does.

• 1:10:26Andrew Santino?

  Stop with this.

• 1:10:27Speaker 06

  It does.

• 1:10:27Andrew Santino?

  I'm not, you know what, guy?

• 1:10:28Speaker 06

  Oh, boy.

• 1:10:29Andrew Santino?

  Oh, boy.

• 1:10:30Speaker 06

  You're misreading me again.

• 1:10:31Andrew Santino?

  No, I'm not misreading you.

• 1:10:32Speaker 06

  You always think that I'm like, you know, condescending, or I'm busting your balls. I'm being honest.

• 1:10:36Andrew Santino?

  It's because of the history we once had.

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, but that was-

• 1:10:38Andrew Santino?

  At one point, you didn't like me.

• 1:10:40Speaker 06

  No, that's not true. That was all in your head.

• 1:10:41Andrew Santino?

  Okay. At one point, he doesn't like everybody.

• 1:10:44Speaker 06

  That's not true. I'm just-

• 1:10:45Andrew Santino?

  But then he learns to like you a little-

• 1:10:46Bobby Lee?

  Right.

• 1:10:47Speaker 06

  I'm just guarded. It's not, not that I don't like-

• 1:10:49Andrew Santino?

  You've never had a point where you didn't like him, or you didn't like me?

• 1:10:52Speaker 06

  I never didn't like you. I didn't know you. Like, I-

• 1:10:55Bobby Lee?

  There we go.

• 1:10:56Andrew Santino?

  You know, that's how he does it.

• 1:10:57Bobby Lee?

  That's how he does it.

• 1:10:58Andrew Santino?

  That's how he does it. Yeah.

• 1:10:58Bobby Lee?

  Alright, good. I didn't know you either. I just treated you like shit.

• 1:11:01Andrew Santino?

  And here's the problem.

• 1:11:03Speaker 06

  I would argue that I didn't treat you like shit. I may have come off as, uh, a lot of people think arrogant, but it's not. I'm just like, I'm just guarded.

• 1:11:11Andrew Santino?

  If everybody thinks it, may it be true?

• 1:11:13Speaker 06

  But you know me now.

• 1:11:14Andrew Santino?

  I do.

• 1:11:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:15Andrew Santino?

  I do.

• 1:11:16Speaker 06

  I love you. I'm a pretty softy guy.

• 1:11:17Bobby Lee?

  Great, great guy. Sensitive.

• 1:11:19Speaker 06

  Once you get the, the key to me-

• 1:11:21Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:21Andrew Santino?

  But here's the problem, Mark. Yes, that is to be true. The problem is, losers, like us-

• 1:11:27Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:11:27Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, we fucking loved you through it because we were like, I still really like him and I really want him to like me, but I don't think he likes me. And we did that, and we all did that.

• 1:11:35Bobby Lee?

  Although, I was so, did I tell you about Oklahoma City?

• 1:11:38Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 1:11:38Bobby Lee?

  I'm shooting the Green Day movie in Oklahoma City.

• 1:11:40Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:41Bobby Lee?

  I'm at the hotel. I have the day off. And I'm coming out of my hotel room, and from afar, I see the back of his head. But I thought, there's no way that's Mark Maron.

• 1:11:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:11:51Bobby Lee?

  He turns around, and it was the most exciting, I, I kind of-

• 1:11:56Speaker 06

  I was excited.

• 1:11:57Bobby Lee?

  I speed ran towards you. It was unbelievable. Yeah, well. He was doing a show there. I was stuck in a hotel.

• 1:12:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:12:03Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, it was a great meeting.

• 1:12:05Speaker 06

  It was great.

• 1:12:05Andrew Santino?

  But he had the other times, when he didn't look at you in the hallway and he walked away.

• 1:12:08Bobby Lee?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:09Andrew Santino?

  You remember those days?

• 1:12:10Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, oh, yeah. Well, I think that you didn't like my style of comedy. I'm, I'm very needy on stage. I use little tricks.

• 1:12:17Speaker 06

  I am too. Who isn't needy on stage?

• 1:12:20Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I use tricks on stage that you wouldn't, you know what I mean, do. Let's be honest.

• 1:12:24Andrew Santino?

  What are some of the tricks?

• 1:12:25Bobby Lee?

  Right? Just like, you know what I mean?

• 1:12:26Andrew Santino?

  What's not a Mark Maron trick that you do?

• 1:12:28Bobby Lee?

  Well, I kiss people on the lips.

• 1:12:29Andrew Santino?

  You do?

• 1:12:29Bobby Lee?

  Different things, like, you know.

• 1:12:31Andrew Santino?

  Pew shot.

• 1:12:31Bobby Lee?

  Pew shot.

• 1:12:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, show the belly.

• 1:12:33Bobby Lee?

  Show the belly, the little tricks that you know.

• 1:12:35Speaker 06

  But I, I want you to know that once you guys, anybody, any comic, once you figure out the trick of me and you figure out how to bust my balls, it's over.

• 1:12:45Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:12:46Bobby Lee?

  I don't believe that. I believe you softened.

• 1:12:48Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no.

• 1:12:48Bobby Lee?

  No, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:12:49Andrew Santino?

  No, he's saying there's, look dude, he's saying.

• 1:12:51Bobby Lee?

  He softened.

• 1:12:52Andrew Santino?

  He's saying, there's a fucking code and you gotta get to the, and once you get to, you know what it is in video game? Like, once you found out where that extra thing was in Mario and you were like, I know how to get that fucking thing.

• 1:13:02Bobby Lee?

  Oh, right, right, right.

• 1:13:02Andrew Santino?

  But it looked threatening and hard, but once you're really like, no, you jump on the mushroom, you get to the thing, then you can, blip, blip, blip, blip. Then you get it. That's what it really is. That's Mark's thing.

• 1:13:12Speaker 06

  Doesn't that make sense?

• 1:13:13Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it does. And you gotta get there.

• 1:13:15Bobby Lee?

  But also, when I knew you, the, right, it was like, I knew you when WTF was new.

• 1:13:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:13:21Bobby Lee?

  Even before when you were married to me, right?

• 1:13:26Andrew Santino?

  Weird.

• 1:13:29Bobby Lee?

  What are you fucking doing? I think maybe it was a secret or something.

• 1:13:31Speaker 06

  I'm through it.

• 1:13:32Bobby Lee?

  You're through it, yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:33Andrew Santino?

  He's through it, yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:35Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, which, you know, I have feelings about, but, uh, yeah, but I knew when you weren't as successful.

• 1:13:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Bobby Lee?

  And you know, the reason why you started WTF is because you weren't in a good place.

• 1:13:45Speaker 06

  Bad place.

• 1:13:45Bobby Lee?

  Very bad place. And you were a little angry and sad, right? And so I think that, once you got through.

• 1:13:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, the divorce, yeah.

• 1:13:54Bobby Lee?

  You're right, and, oh, right. And then, you know, WTF started taking off, then you were getting TV spots and you were, all the things that you deserved, you got.

• 1:14:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:14:05Bobby Lee?

  Okay? And then you softened.

• 1:14:07Speaker 06

  Well, I softened with age and I softened with a lot of stuff, but yeah, but I, but also the, the primary intention of WTF at the beginning was to sort of settle these scores of people that either I did have problems with or people had problems with me. And most of the time, when I thought I had, you know, caused some trouble for somebody or, or they didn't like me, they didn't even know what I was talking about. And I'd be.

• 1:14:30Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:31Speaker 06

  You know, I'd bring up these events and be like, oh, yeah, okay, I guess. And it was like, I had decided somehow that I was an outsider of the community.

• 1:14:40Bobby Lee?

  You're not.

• 1:14:40Speaker 06

  And that, no, I'm not, but, but I'm crazy.

• 1:14:43Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 1:14:44Speaker 06

  So.

• 1:14:44Andrew Santino?

  That's true.

• 1:14:45Bobby Lee?

  You're a leader.

• 1:14:46Speaker 06

  Well.

• 1:14:47Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, you are. You're a leader in the community. You're one of the forefathers.

• 1:14:50Andrew Santino?

  But you're also crazy. This lines up.

• 1:14:52Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:53Speaker 06

  A little bit.

• 1:14:53Andrew Santino?

  All right, so say it. Just say it.

• 1:14:55Bobby Lee?

  What?

• 1:14:56Andrew Santino?

  What, what, why?

• 1:14:57Bobby Lee?

  Why did I stop?

• 1:14:58Andrew Santino?

  Just why? Why are you done?

• 1:15:00Bobby Lee?

  Why?

• 1:15:00Speaker 06

  Oh, oh. Well, the truth is, like, we've been doing it 16 years. And, you know, when we set out to do it, it was not, there was no money to be made. It was really just an act of trying to create something, you know, honest and interesting. And it evolved over time. And my producer and I were audio guys, and he's a very specific type of producer. He spends a lot of time with these interviews. He crafts them. And the, and over time, it developed a very personal style. And it was sort of a, a sort of the arc of my life and my engagement with these people. But it was ultimately a lot about me. And the thing about the show is that we, we've worked very hard at it.

• 1:15:42Speaker 06

  There, we never wanted to do video. It was never part of our thing. We're not content generators. We're not, we don't put things into the world to make money, really. And the fact was, is three years ago, we got that deal with the platform. And it was something we deserved, and it was not a huge deal, but it was a good one.

• 1:16:00Bobby Lee?

  It was a good one.

• 1:16:01Speaker 06

  And, you know, we got in under the wire on that. And, and right before we took the platform deal, we were like, you know, we don't have to keep doing this. We've done an amazing thing. We've helped sort of create a foundation for this medium. We've created a style of doing it that a lot of people copped. And, you know, we're still operating at, the quality has never shifted. The audience has never gone away. But it really becomes a question of like, how long do we need to do this? And the arc of the deal with the platform is three years, and it's coming up on that. And we made our money in a way. But it's, it's, it, it becomes the, the, I think the landscape's different.

• 1:16:45Speaker 06

  You know, we do what we do, and people still do it, come to it. Audio is a great thing, but after a certain point, it's like, we've interviewed everybody.

• 1:16:53Bobby Lee?

  Hmm.

• 1:16:54Speaker 06

  And my producers, like, were a little exhausted. It's consumed our entire lives. And we just thought, like, in terms of our, our legacy, why not just let it be done? You know, why you, why do you want to end up like down the line to having people going like, oh, Maron's still doing it? Who the fuck needs that?

• 1:17:12Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:13Andrew Santino?

  God, that's fucking wild.

• 1:17:14Bobby Lee?

  That's wild.

• 1:17:14Andrew Santino?

  By the way, he gets regarded as an interviewer in public and you and I are at the airport and people go, Bobby's mom! That's what we hear.

• 1:17:20Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. You know what I also get? The reason I'm doing a special is because podcasters come see my show and then afterwards they go, wow, we didn't think you could do stand up.

• 1:17:30Speaker 06

  I know.

• 1:17:30Andrew Santino?

  They never knew you did it.

• 1:17:31Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, they never even knew I did it.

• 1:17:32Speaker 06

  And that's the most important thing in our life.

• 1:17:34Bobby Lee?

  Yes.

• 1:17:35Speaker 06

  When's yours coming out?

• 1:17:36Bobby Lee?

  I shoot it in January.

• 1:17:38Speaker 06

  Is it gonna, how long is it gonna be?

• 1:17:45Bobby Lee?

  You know what headline on the road, Mark?

• 1:17:48Speaker 06

  How many openers you put?

• 1:17:52Bobby Lee?

  Two or three?

• 1:17:53Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no.

• 1:17:54Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I do.

• 1:17:55Andrew Santino?

  Three or four.

• 1:17:55Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:56Speaker 06

  You have to understand something. I think you're fucking hilarious.

• 1:17:59Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 1:18:00Speaker 06

  And you don't believe that.

• 1:18:01Bobby Lee?

  You're doing a special.

• 1:18:02Andrew Santino?

  Oh, he doesn't want the attention.

• 1:18:03Bobby Lee?

  I don't want the attention.

• 1:18:04Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:05Speaker 06

  You're doing a special. I shot a special New York.

• 1:18:06Bobby Lee?

  Yes.

• 1:18:07Speaker 06

  And I think it's one of the best I've done.

• 1:18:08Andrew Santino?

  Where is it at?

• 1:18:10Speaker 06

  Where'd you shoot it? I shot it at the Bam Harvey. It's like, uh, it's in Brooklyn.

• 1:18:14Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 1:18:15Speaker 06

  I was gonna do it at Town Hall again, but I didn't, I didn't, I don't love that space. And I said, there's, isn't there like an 800, 900 seater anywhere in New York?

• 1:18:21Bobby Lee?

  You only did one show?

• 1:18:22Speaker 06

  No, I did two shows.

• 1:18:23Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 1:18:24Speaker 06

  But the theater is like this old theater from the early 1900s and they've, they've maintained it, but they didn't restore it. So it almost has sort of a half a ruin feeling.

• 1:18:33Bobby Lee?

  Ooh.

• 1:18:33Speaker 06

  And they had this back wall that looked like a fucking piece of modern art. And I'm like, that wall is the whole thing. We gotta, we gotta make that part of it. And the production design on it, it's fucking genius.

• 1:18:44Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 1:18:44Speaker 06

  The guy like, the production design guy, he's, he saw the space and he wanted to integrate it. And I'm, I'm of the mind that, you can't really make those things look that much different than anything else.

• 1:18:53Andrew Santino?

  No, leave him alone.

• 1:18:54Speaker 06

  But this guy was genius. He goes, I'm thinking ketsuki. And I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck that is. So I Google it and it's this ancient Japanese art of restoring ceramics with gold to, to, in the cracks.

• 1:19:05Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:19:06Speaker 06

  It's all, and he, and I'm like, all right, well, that sounds good. You just do that. So he just created this vibe that was amazing. I did a full fucking 73 minutes. I had it in my mind.

• 1:19:16Andrew Santino?

  73.

• 1:19:17Speaker 06

  Well, they wanted an hour and like, I believe this is what we work for. And that's why I love HBO is because they, they curate shit.

• 1:19:24Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:24Speaker 06

  They're still producing good shit.

• 1:19:26Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:26Speaker 06

  And I, and they're, they're like, you're gonna do an hour. And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna do an hour. But then I was like, I think it should be 73. Because my last special was seventy-three, so I got it in my head. That that was, that's what I could do, seventy-three. And they were like, alright, fine, do it. And it's so fucked up, and I guess it's just a testament testament to how long I've been doing this. Like, I had like an hour and forty-five for the tour, and I knew a few weeks going into it that I had to get it down. And I just got the redundancies out, I found the callbacks, but I swear to God, both shows that I did that night, seventy-three minutes, like on the fucking dot. Wow.

• 1:20:02Andrew Santino?

  No, you know cognizant of the time, you were just rolling.

• 1:20:05Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:20:05Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 1:20:05Speaker 06

  And I look at the clock and I'm closing at seventy-three, I'm like, I know how to do this.

• 1:20:09Andrew Santino?

  Seventy-three is phenomenal.

• 1:20:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's good, though, and I just want to tell you.

• 1:20:13Bobby Lee?

  It's gonna be on HBO.

• 1:20:14Speaker 06

  HBO premiered August first.

• 1:20:17Andrew Santino?

  August first.

• 1:20:17Speaker 06

  August first. Go check it out, yeah.

• 1:20:20Andrew Santino?

  What's it called?

• 1:20:21Speaker 06

  Panicked.

• 1:20:23Andrew Santino?

  Literally perfect.

• 1:20:25Speaker 06

  It's perfect.

• 1:20:25Andrew Santino?

  And by the way, for the record, go see, uh, watch Panicked right now on HBO. Uh, a great name is hard to find, we're trying to find his name for his special.

• 1:20:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, well, we'll figure it out later.

• 1:20:34Andrew Santino?

  No, give him, come on.

• 1:20:35Speaker 06

  Could you call it Bobby?

• 1:20:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that's good.

• 1:20:40Speaker 06

  With a lot of E's.

• 1:20:41Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, Bobby.

• 1:20:43Andrew Santino?

  It was gonna be called Trauma Lama.

• 1:20:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's pretty good.

• 1:20:46Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:47Andrew Santino?

  Trauma Lama's really good, AI generated that unfortunately, as we we asked what AI thought it would be.

• 1:20:52Speaker 06

  What's in the running, though, really?

• 1:20:53Bobby Lee?

  I have no idea.

• 1:20:55Andrew Santino?

  Well, no, we had a few, the Slept King he likes, Trauma Lama, Chink in the Armor. I think that one's very funny. I do think that one's very funny.

• 1:21:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:21:05Andrew Santino?

  AI came up with all these.

• 1:21:07Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, anyway, watch Mark.

• 1:21:09Andrew Santino?

  What was the other one?

• 1:21:10Bobby Lee?

  Tiger Daddy.

• 1:21:11Andrew Santino?

  Tiger Dad.

• 1:21:11Speaker 06

  Oh, that's pretty good.

• 1:21:12Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:12Andrew Santino?

  Tiger Dad.

• 1:21:13Speaker 06

  I think you should capitalize on, you know, the name of the these shows.

• 1:21:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you should.

• 1:21:17Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. Well, my nickname in on Tiger, but my other podcast is, uh, The Slept King.

• 1:21:22Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:21:22Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:23Speaker 06

  The what king?

• 1:21:23Bobby Lee?

  The Slept King.

• 1:21:25Speaker 06

  What is that, slept?

• 1:21:26Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, cuz I'm not woke, I'm the opposite.

• 1:21:29Speaker 06

  It's too complicated.

• 1:21:30Andrew Santino?

  See what I'm, yeah, it's hard to find.

• 1:21:31Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:32Andrew Santino?

  It's hard to get the panicked, panicked on HBO, I see it, I get it.

• 1:21:35Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 1:21:35Andrew Santino?

  And I'm sure you named that yourself.

• 1:21:37Speaker 06

  I did, we had a few things in the running, but I I kinda stuck with that one, I'm like, let's just do this.

• 1:21:42Andrew Santino?

  What was the other one?

• 1:21:43Speaker 06

  Yeah. What was the other one?

• 1:21:44Andrew Santino?

  You don't have to clear it with HBO, right? They don't care.

• 1:21:46Speaker 06

  No, you got to.

• 1:21:47Andrew Santino?

  Oh, you do?

• 1:21:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, and I, yeah, you definitely got to clear it with HBO. But we were going with one that I thought was too long, and now I can't even remember.

• 1:21:55Andrew Santino?

  Equanimity and the bird theory or whatever?

• 1:21:56Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 1:21:57Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, I just was, but it's really hard to find those one-word ones, and you kind of feel like you need to. There's so many of them done already.

• 1:22:04Andrew Santino?

  Right, or it's, or it's, or it's, it's two words, but it's quick. It's gotta be pop-up.

• 1:22:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:22:08Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's gotta be fast.

• 1:22:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, I can't remember the fucking other names. It's so crazy. But when I got panicked, I'm like, this is it.

• 1:22:15Andrew Santino?

  Panicked is perfect.

• 1:22:16Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:22:16Andrew Santino?

  Panicked is perfect. Go see Panicked on HBO.

• 1:22:18Speaker 06

  All right, thanks.

• 1:22:19Andrew Santino?

  For those of our fans and friends.

• 1:22:20Speaker 06

  That's very nice of you to.

• 1:22:20Andrew Santino?

  We love you.

• 1:22:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:22:21Andrew Santino?

  We always say thank you for being a bad friend to the audience, and I want you to do it, because it'll be a nice sign-off for us.

• 1:22:27Speaker 06

  Thank you for being a bad friend, and...

• 1:22:31Bobby Lee?

  That's it.

• 1:22:32Andrew Santino?

  No, don't cut him off.

• 1:22:34Bobby Lee?

  That's it!

• 1:22:34Andrew Santino?

  Fuck.

• 1:22:35Bobby Lee?

  You don't do more?

• 1:22:37Speaker 06

  And I'll be honest with you, these two guys are good friends and of mine, and if I was in a pinch, I know I could call either of these.

• 1:22:46Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:47Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:22:47Andrew Santino?

  We love you.

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