"Mark Hamill"

Grab your power converters, it’s our national treasure, Mr. Mark Hamill. Spices in space, body-part autographs, time machines, and Scotty’s first pod. Revert to your 9 year-old nerd self… it’s an all-new SmartWars.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Sean Hayes?

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• 0:44Sean Hayes?

  Compatibility and availability vary.

• 0:49Jason Bateman?

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• 1:29Sean Hayes?

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• 2:05Sean Hayes?

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• 2:50Will Arnett?

  Guys, let's just scooch in here real quick. Let's just wedge our way in here right before we're gonna start another new... But I just wanna scooch right in here, right before we start and just kind of look up a little view in the eye.

• 3:00Jason Bateman?

  Little appetizer, little audio appetizer?

• 3:02Will Arnett?

  Yeah, little appetizer, just get a little scooch in, just kinda like a quick little wink and hello.

• 3:07Jason Bateman?

  Sean, let's just make it a twosome today.

• 3:08Sean Hayes?

  Okay, ready?

• 3:09Jason Bateman?

  Here we go. Welcome to Smartless.

• 3:11Sean Hayes?

  Yes!

• 3:12Will Arnett?

  I'm wedged in.

• 3:13Sean Hayes?

  Who's that other guy?

• 3:14Will Arnett?

  Still wedged in.

• 3:15Jason Bateman?

  Here we go.

• 3:33Jason Bateman?

  Sean, where'd you get that sweet Smartless hat?

• 3:35Sean Hayes?

  Isn't that cool? From the merch store at SiriusXM.

• 3:38Jason Bateman?

  So you go to SiriusXM, you can just buy like Smartless, like t-shirts, hats, and like, what if I wanted like leg warmers? Do they have those?

• 3:46Sean Hayes?

  Yes, yes, um, yes, you could do all that. You know, um...

• 3:53Jason Bateman?

  Do we get any... Does anyone...

• 3:55Sean Hayes?

  This was sent to me though.

• 3:56Jason Bateman?

  We talked about this before. Yeah, why'd they send us that? I got one of those too.

• 3:59Sean Hayes?

  I don't know, did you get it or no?

• 4:00Jason Bateman?

  I did get it. Why did they send us one of those hats? They're particularly proud of it?

• 4:03Sean Hayes?

  I don't know, 'cause they're like new, I guess, in the store.

• 4:04Jason Bateman?

  They're pretty sweet. Amanda stole mine immediately.

• 4:06Sean Hayes?

  Now, who...

• 4:07Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that's really cool.

• 4:08Will Arnett?

  Who came up with those? Sean, you had a hand in that particular hat, right?

• 4:12Sean Hayes?

  No, I didn't. I haven't, no, not at all.

• 4:14Jason Bateman?

  Will's got notes. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

• 4:16Sean Hayes?

  Well, Will wants a trucker hat. This is like a baseball hat.

• 4:19Jason Bateman?

  Well, yeah, but it's...

• 4:20Will Arnett?

  It's not a baseball hat.

• 4:21Jason Bateman?

  It's got a real curve on the bill.

• 4:23Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 4:24Jason Bateman?

  It is a trucker hat, which I like, but it's got a real soft top to it.

• 4:26Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, buffalo bill.

• 4:27Jason Bateman?

  It kinda rolls back. I like a high top to my trucker hat.

• 4:30Will Arnett?

  We call that, we call that, it's almost got a slouch and I don't like it.

• 4:33Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I know.

• 4:34Jason Bateman?

  But you can find the high, the high top trucker hats on the site there.

• 4:38Sean Hayes?

  Yes, you can.

• 4:39Jason Bateman?

  Where is that, Sean?

• 4:40Sean Hayes?

  It's at the Sierra Six. I don't know the link. Does anybody know the link? I don't know.

• 4:43Jason Bateman?

  Well, we'll put it in the chat.

• 4:45Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 4:45Jason Bateman?

  Everyone's getting the chat, right?

• 4:47Will Arnett?

  Oh, yeah, we should get. Oh, yeah, people are jumping on the chat, right? Oh, hang on, let me just take a look. The chat is blowing up.

• 4:53Sean Hayes?

  Wait, Jay, did you make it to Maple's game?

• 4:55Jason Bateman?

  I did. I saw the first quarter and she was, I was telling Will.

• 4:58Sean Hayes?

  Basketball, right?

• 4:59Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, she's got incredible ball skills, which is what I think Sean's or Will's handle? One, maybe both your handles.

• 5:07Sean Hayes?

  Ball skill?

• 5:08Jason Bateman?

  Coming up through high school.

• 5:09Sean Hayes?

  Ball skills?

• 5:10Jason Bateman?

  Ball skill haze.

• 5:12Sean Hayes?

  Here he comes.

• 5:13Will Arnett?

  I love not even commenting and just letting, watching you sort of, sort of deadly draw that one out. And I think that what you, one of you, what you have up there.

• 5:22Jason Bateman?

  All day today, doing our, doing our, doing our sketches today.

• 5:25Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, we were working on something today and chatting about something today that's to come that we keep talking about.

• 5:30Jason Bateman?

  Not sure we got anything usable today.

• 5:32Sean Hayes?

  I, I think we did.

• 5:33Will Arnett?

  Please, JB, give me a break. We got, yeah, of course we did. Of, of course, of course, of course we did. And it's, it's all in, in the vein of this fun thing that we keep talking about that we're, that we're really excited about.

• 5:44Jason Bateman?

  When are we gonna talk more about that?

• 5:45Sean Hayes?

  In a few weeks.

• 5:46Will Arnett?

  Pretty soon.

• 5:47Jason Bateman?

  When is the audience ready to hear?

• 5:48Will Arnett?

  In a, in a matter of weeks, we're gonna be able to talk about what it really is, and I think it's exciting and.

• 5:53Jason Bateman?

  I'm very excited to share with our listeners.

• 5:55Sean Hayes?

  Super excited.

• 5:55Jason Bateman?

  They think it's something that they might like. They might.

• 5:57Sean Hayes?

  Guess what else I'm excited about?

• 5:59Jason Bateman?

  What is that? Your next, your next guest?

• 6:01Will Arnett?

  This is what I like. I like, I like a segue more than anything.

• 6:03Jason Bateman?

  A smooth segue.

• 6:04Sean Hayes?

  Will, have you figured it out yet? Cause I was talking to Will, giving him clues today.

• 6:08Will Arnett?

  I was trying to think and you were like, oh, it's so me.

• 6:10Jason Bateman?

  Give me a clue. I'll figure it out. I'm brighter than him.

• 6:12Sean Hayes?

  Well, I'm, so I'll read it. You'll guess it by the end of this intro. Here we go.

• 6:16Sean Hayes?

  We'll have to add him to our smart list, legendary all-star list. That's, I've just kind of started. But dedicated to his craft, he trained with an Olympic fencer before becoming the thing I cannot yet mention. As a child, he often contemplated who he'd rather fly as Superman or Peter Pan. His career started with a role on General Hospital, which primed him for the pilot of Eight is Enough.

• 6:36Will Arnett?

  John Stamos.

• 6:37Sean Hayes?

  As he patiently awaited May 25th, 1977, when the world would come to know him as one of the most famous heroes in cinematic history. That role's Luke Skywalker and he is Mark Hamill.

• 6:47Jason Bateman?

  Whoa.

• 6:50Jason Bateman?

  Whoa, Mr. Hamill. Now Sean, how are you even, well, at least you're sitting.

• 6:57Sean Hayes?

  I'm not even kidding. I'm shaking. Look, I'm shaking a little bit.

• 7:00Jason Bateman?

  How'd you get through the day? Sorry, we're gonna leave you in a second, Mr. Hamill. This guy Sean Hayes lives and breathes Star Wars.

• 7:08Will Arnett?

  He said, "When you see my guest tonight, you're gonna be like, of course, that makes total sense." And I was like, "Who could it be? It's not the mayor of Tatooine, but it's close."

• 7:19Jason Bateman?

  It's close.

• 7:20Sean Hayes?

  So wait, just before we start, first of all, thank you for being on here. This is huge for me and...

• 7:25Jason Bateman?

  Thank you. All of us.

• 7:26Sean Hayes?

  Billions of other people.

• 7:27Will Arnett?

  Oh my god.

• 7:28Jason Bateman?

  This guy's a national treasure for Christ's sake.

• 7:30Sean Hayes?

  You are, and I can't believe you're... But before we start, I just wanna read to you what you wrote on your Instagram about Stephen King. You wrote, "It took every ounce of discipline I possessed to avoid freaking out and exposing myself as the weak-kneed, slavish fanboy I truly am." And of course, I feel the same way about you as you wrote about Stephen King. Because I've been waiting 50 years to talk to you.

• 7:55Jason Bateman?

  Oh my god.

• 7:55Sean Hayes?

  This is crazy. It's crazy that I'm talking to you.

• 7:58Will Arnett?

  Well, it's not quite 50 years, it's 47. I mean, let's be honest, because the movie came out in 77. I saw A New Hope four times in a row. I know I give Sean a lot of shit for being a Star Wars. I saw the first one four times in the theaters when I was a kid.

• 8:12Speaker 03

  Wow, so you were like 12, 13, 14?

• 8:15Sean Hayes?

  I was seven.

• 8:16Will Arnett?

  We were both seven. Sean and I were both seven.

• 8:19Jason Bateman?

  They both look much older than I do, but so... Now Will, did you pay four times for it, or did you just?

• 8:25Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I went four times. I went, "Yes, of course."

• 8:28Jason Bateman?

  You left the theater and re-entered four times.

• 8:30Will Arnett?

  Nobody could believe it was a phenomenon, that nobody could believe it changed everything, and we were like...

• 8:35Sean Hayes?

  We talk about it all the time on this show, when we talk about movies.

• 8:38Will Arnett?

  And I give Sean a lot of shit just for being a nerd, Mark, but that's not the only reason he's a nerd. He's a nerd for a lot of other reasons.

• 8:45Jason Bateman?

  Mark, how was it to continue being a part of that going forward, on and on? Did you think it would go on this long?

• 8:51Speaker 03

  Oh, of course not. No, no, not at all. Although, when we were doing it, I remember the first couple of days we shot in North Africa, I went over with Guinness and the droids, and I hadn't met Carrier Harrison yet, and I said to George, "Why is this Episode Four? Why aren't you starting with Episode One?" He goes, "Well, well, Episode One, uh, there's a lot of exposition, and, uh, it's more political. This trilogy is much more commercial."

• 9:18Sean Hayes?

  So he knew?

• 9:19Jason Bateman?

  Did he, did he already have plans that he would go back and do those first three? Or did he just kind of jettison that from the very beginning and just like, "Ah, yeah, we're just gonna not even do those stories."

• 9:28Speaker 03

  Well, the way I understood it was that he originally had planned four trilogies of 12, but when we were shooting, I asked him about the first trilogy, and he said, he explained, "Well, this is more commercial. There's a lot of exposition, and it's political, and it's about taxation, and blah, blah, blah, so I wanted to do..." He wanted you to feel like you walked into a serial chapter play, and you'd missed the first few episodes. That's why they had the crawl, to bring you up to speed. But, I mean, as actors, you must appreciate this. When I auditioned, we just had a, it was an open cattle call.

• 10:07Speaker 03

  Brian De Palma was casting Stephen King's Carrie, the horror movie set in high school, and George was casting Star Wars. And it was a cattle call. Like I say, you sat down, they said, "Tell us a little about yourself," and you talked for five minutes, and I said, "Thank you." They didn't talk about the project at all. But here's the interesting part. My agent says, "Okay, you've got a screen test. Uh, we're sending you the pages." It was like a 10-page scene with Harrison as Han Solo in the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon. No Wookiee, just the two of us. But there was no context. I mean, I'm reading this thing going, "Wait a second. Is this like a parody or a send-up of Flash Gordon?

• 10:48Speaker 03

  Is it like Mel Brooks or whatever?" So I, when I went to the audition, I went to Harrison, because he had done American Graffiti, he'd known George, and I said, "Harrison, uh, is this like, are we, is this like a send-up? I mean, is it..." He said, "Hey, kid, let's just get it done," you know. He was absolutely no help whatsoever.

• 11:08Sean Hayes?

  I could listen to you imitate him all day.

• 11:10Jason Bateman?

  Was, so was he, did he have to audition at all, or was he, he was already set in that part coming off of American Graffiti?

• 11:17Speaker 03

  Well, no, he'd already done American Graffiti. When I did the screen test, I don't know whether he was set or not. But he did do a screen test with Carrie, so I guess George was fairly sure. And there were two sets of three. And Marcia Lucas, George's wife, said, when he was packing to go to London, he hadn't decided between the two. I mean, there was no mix and match. It was me, Harrison, and Carrie, or Will Seltzer, Terry, none, and I forget now who's Han Solo. And she took credit. She said, I'm the one that suggested he go with you guys.

• 11:50Jason Bateman?

  That's great.

• 11:51Sean Hayes?

  That's amazing.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  But here's, here's what's so interesting is, and I went to George at the same audition, said the same thing I said to Harrison. Is this like a parody or are we serious? He went, um, let's just do it and we'll talk about it later. Translation, translation, let's just do it and we'll never talk about it later.

• 12:09Jason Bateman?

  Shut up and hit your mark.

• 12:11Speaker 03

  Exactly. George is not like, he's not an actor's director. He comes alive in the editing room. He, he doesn't want to hear about backstory or motivation or whatever. Now, Erwin Kirchner was the opposite. He was very much into that. He did Empire. But like I say, the moment my agent said, okay, you got it, and they're sending the script over, I will never forget reading that script for the first time because it just blew my mind. I mean, even without John Williams' music.

• 12:42Jason Bateman?

  So it was that good?

• 12:43Speaker 03

  Or the special effects. Yes, it was all on the page, you guys. You really got the sense of.

• 12:48Sean Hayes?

  Isn't that amazing?

• 12:49Speaker 03

  Yes, it was.

• 12:50Jason Bateman?

  What about you realizing what part you had just gotten to?

• 12:54Speaker 03

  That's it. I have to tell you, Jason, when I, it was weeks, maybe a month later. And when I tested, I figured, oh, Harrison's the leading man. I'm like the annoying sidekick, right? Because I'm badgering him and all this stuff. And I have to do this for you. I mean, my daughter's through this a million times. There was a line in the screen test that thankfully was not in the finished product. We're going towards the Death Star and Solo says basically, look, I've done my part. When we get to an inhabitable asteroid, I'm dropping you and the droids off. And here's my actual line. But we can't turn back. Fear is their greatest defense.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Solace. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large scale assault.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  Now, try and make that sound like it's a spontaneous thought just coming off the top of your head. I mean, it's just, and I mean, you could diagram this sentence.

• 13:59Sean Hayes?

  Well, whenever, whenever Scotty and I run out to the store, we say this line, we say, Oh, this should be great. But I was going into Toshi Station to pick up some power converters. Which is, here it is, here it is. I was going into Toshi Station to pick up some power converters.

• 14:11Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 14:13Speaker 03

  You know, and people don't believe me, but I was trying to be as whiny baby as I could. So I had somewhere to go.

• 14:21Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

• 14:22Will Arnett?

  Yeah, you had to be this kid who didn't, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:25Speaker 03

  And you gotta be as annoying and whiny as possible, but you know, I still get garbage over that over the years.

• 14:32Will Arnett?

  I just, I just want, I just, I didn't even tell you this, Sean, I just watched A New Hope again recently with the little kids.

• 14:38Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:38Will Arnett?

  And with my kids and, and it just, it holds up in the most cra- in the crazy.

• 14:43Sean Hayes?

  How old is it? What is it?

• 14:44Will Arnett?

  1977?

• 14:45Speaker 03

  He shot it in, shot it in 76 and it came out in 77.

• 14:49Will Arnett?

  You guys shot it in 76, you shot it in 76, it's 48 years, man.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was 24.

• 14:54Will Arnett?

  Almost 49.

• 14:55Sean Hayes?

  Wow.

• 14:56Will Arnett?

  So you go, so you shoot that thing in, in 1976 in, in London and in North Africa.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Right.

• 15:04Will Arnett?

  Right? And I remember, by the way, I remember, um, my friend, this guy, uh, I worked with, Peter Cohn, who was, uh, he was a first assistant director, uh, on lots of big movies, but one of his first jobs, he was a P A, right? On A New Hope, Peter was?

• 15:19Speaker 03

  Yes, and the thing was, he was not going to be able to go to, they weren't taking him to North Africa, but when they discovered he spoke French, he was in and he was like 19 and we became fast friends and he's still one of my closest friends today.

• 15:34Sean Hayes?

  Wow, I love that.

• 15:35Will Arnett?

  He's a great guy, he's a, and I, I worked with him on a couple of movies. Uh, he was the first A D on, uh, Blades of Glory. He was also first A D on Withnail and I, which is my favorite film of all.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah, it's great.

• 15:46Will Arnett?

  So, but I remember him telling me, and, and maybe Mark, you can talk, speak to this, telling me about like, for instance, R2-D2 is just like this, because it was 1976, it was just like this bucket, like this metallic.

• 15:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:59Will Arnett?

  And they would, it would fall over, they'd kick it.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, exactly. It's a marvel of editing because.

• 16:04Sean Hayes?

  Sean, why are you crying? Sean, I, I, I'm on the verge, on the verge.

• 16:10Will Arnett?

  No, but tell us.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  Well, no, it was like you say, I mean, George called it the most expensive, low-budget movie ever made.

• 16:16Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 16:17Will Arnett?

  Right.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  And what he meant by that was every single penny has to be up on the screen. The only people they actually had to pay decent salaries to would be Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing. All of us were unknowns. I think I got a thousand a week. I remember complaining to my agent, whoa, I make eight thousand to 10,000 on television a week. And she said, hey, get a grip. It's a movie, it's George Lucas, it's Alec Guinness. I went, oh, yeah.

• 16:40Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  And as you know, I mean, money is secondary. We do this because we love it.

• 16:47Sean Hayes?

  Yes.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  And if you can get a nice salary, good for you, but.

• 16:51Sean Hayes?

  And so, but wait, what about Robert England? For my sister Tracy, Robert England was Freddy Krueger. And he told you to audition for Star Wars? Is that true?

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Well, in his book, he said, you know, basically, if it weren't for me, Mark, wouldn't it be Luke Skywalker? And to be fair, I mean, I love Robert.

• 17:06Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 17:06Speaker 03

  But when he said that to me, he had just come back from an audition. You know how it is. Once you've auditioned, you feel free to tell your friends, oh, have you been out for this thing?

• 17:15Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 17:15Speaker 03

  And he said, have you been out for this George Lucas thing? And I said, no. And I went to the phone. I called my agent and I said, and I told her about it. And she said, I'm all over it. You've got an appointment next Wednesday. So I hate to burst Robert's bubble.

• 17:29Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  It makes for a better story.

• 17:32Sean Hayes?

  Sure.

• 17:32Will Arnett?

  Sure, it's a good soundbite, but you know, we've put it to rest now and fucking.

• 17:37Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:38Will Arnett?

  I'm just kidding. I was about to unload. I don't know the guy at all. It's great.

• 17:40Sean Hayes?

  Mark, were you, were you, um, what, what was, what was your work schedule like before, uh, Star Wars? Were you? Yeah, you were in the pilot of Eight is Enough. That's what I want to know. And then you got replaced.

• 17:53Speaker 03

  But they changed. A lot of the people in the pilot, they changed the father. They changed three siblings, including me.

• 18:00Jason Bateman?

  Big Van Patten.

• 18:01Speaker 03

  I was just doing, uh, you know, I, I, I did TV, after the soap, I did TV movies. I don't know how many of 30 or something between 70 and 76 and lots and lots of, you know, FBI.

• 18:16Jason Bateman?

  You were, you were, you were a working actor. This, this wasn't a huge shock to you, to the system when this thing took off. I mean, I guess, how can you be prepared for that, that kind of exposure?

• 18:26Speaker 03

  You can.

• 18:26Jason Bateman?

  But it wasn't, you weren't, you weren't right off a truck.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 18:30Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 18:30Speaker 03

  And, and the, the way I felt about it, I thought, I didn't see any ads for it on television. Like I'd watch Saturday Night Live and usually they, you know, place.

• 18:40Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 18:40Speaker 03

  A movie commercials there. I didn't see it. Uh, and, uh, on the day it opened, the driver picked me up to go dub the, uh, 35 millimeter Prince. Cause it only opened in like 16 theaters in 70 millimeter. And I said, can you drive by Grommets Chinese? I want to see what it looks like up on the marquee. Oh, here's a fun fact. There was such disagreement on how to promote it at Fox that it opened with no poster.

• 19:07Jason Bateman?

  Wow.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  They just stapled the lobby cards up because they couldn't, is this like, that one faction was promoting it? Like a, uh, an entertainment journey beyond your imagination, far beyond. The other one was like pushing the more comedic aspects, you know, Little Rascals and other space. But they couldn't agree. So anyway, I said, can you drive by Grommets? And now what I thought was this thing's going to take a couple of weeks to get going. Cause the hardcore sci-fi fantasy horror fans are all going to see it on day one. But it'll take word of mouth for it to spread and say, hey, you know what? It's pretty funny too. And it's, you know, it's all these things.

• 19:45Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  But so anyway, we drove by and I couldn't believe my eyes. There were lines around the block the first day, so I, I couldn't figure it out.

• 19:53Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. What was the promotion that got the, that got that amount of interest going? I was too young to really, uh, notice it, but how do you think they, they, they accrued that much interest in it without the posters?

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Well, they did a poster, but I think Hildebrand was the artist and they depicted Luke as like six, two and ripped with, you know, muscles and, you know, a whole thing. Didn't look anything like me.

• 20:15Jason Bateman?

  And I didn't even audition, but yeah.

• 20:17Will Arnett?

  You know, you know, but you know what's funny though, that what a great example again, once again of how fucking lucky. The suits got.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:26Will Arnett?

  And, and, and they kind of got in their own way and couldn't agree on a poster and who are so quick to rush to, to take credit for shit and blah, blah, blah. And I know that-

• 20:36Speaker 03

  It was the merits of it that they gave it its legs.

• 20:38Will Arnett?

  It was the merits of the, of the, of the, of the, you know, the, the picture itself. They got it to where and created this thing. And how quickly do you think, Mark? Those same people who decided that they couldn't figure out to put a fucking poster or whatever, how quickly do you think they took credit at dinner that night? Or the next week, or at a lunch with other? It's fucking absurd.

• 21:01Speaker 03

  Isn't that the way? Cause they really didn't see any potential and they, you know, we didn't-

• 21:05Will Arnett?

  Of course, of course they didn't.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  They were really prepared to dump it. But you know, George had made a graffiti at Universal and the head of Universal wanted to dump it on the second half of a double bill. And it was only Francis Ford Coppola that went to him and said, "Look, you've got to give this a chance because..." They were mad because they spent so much money to get the rights to all the music, all the vintage rock and roll. But to think that, that, that American graffiti could have been just thrown away and they never learned.

• 21:34Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 21:36Jason Bateman?

  We'll be right back.

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• 24:22Sean Hayes?

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• 24:30Sean Hayes?

  And now, back to the show.

• 24:33Jason Bateman?

  Hey, what had John Williams done before? He did Jaws before this, yes?

• 24:37Sean Hayes?

  Oh my god, he did so much.

• 24:38Jason Bateman?

  But, no, but before Jaws or this?

• 24:40Sean Hayes?

  He did Lost in Space, he did, um...

• 24:43Speaker 03

  He was billed as Johnny Williams and he did a lot of universal television shows. I mean, we were so...

• 24:49Sean Hayes?

  He did, uh, Gilligan's Island.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  Aside from, aside from George, I think he's probably more responsible for the success of that film than any other single person. Cause well, I remember, uh, Gary Kirsch, the producer, picked me up to go do another dubbing session. He said, "Oh, I just got the, the score from, you know, I was over in London with a little..." When he put it on, you guys, I'm telling you, I felt tears streaming down my face.

• 25:15Sean Hayes?

  Yes, for sure, so powerful.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  I just couldn't, exactly. I wanna, also wanted to finish the story about me reading it for the first time, remember?

• 25:22Will Arnett?

  Yes.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  I got it without reading a script.

• 25:25Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  I just had read that one.

• 25:26Will Arnett?

  Yeah, sorry, keep going, yeah.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  Well, here's the thing. When I, when I opened to the first page, it said, "The Adventures of Luke Starkiller, as taken from the Journal of the Wills, Saga Number One, The Star Wars." And I'm thinking, "Wait a minute, was that I Luke?" No, I guess Harrison was Luke, cause I figured,

• 25:47Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  He, he was a traditional leading man. He was 35 or whatever and he was Harrison 4, come on. So I started to read this thing and I, you know, I, in the very beginning, I realized, "Oh my god, this is seen through the eyes of this teenage farm boy." I mean, that was unusual in and of itself. You'd think it'd probably be through the eyes of, of Han Solo. But, I mean, that's the journey that, that, that...

• 26:11Sean Hayes?

  Give us a little bit of Harrison's, uh, reaction when he read the script. He's like, "What the hell?"

• 26:17Speaker 03

  By the way, Sean, I have to tell you, after, I, I didn't say, "Oh, I'm gonna go do an impression of Harrison 4." I was on, um, uh, Seth Meyers and I was just relaying a story that happened to us, uh, when we were on The Death Star. Um, I, we were midday and I said, "Wait a second, this scene takes place after we were in the trash compactor, which we hadn't filmed yet."

• 26:44Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 26:45Speaker 03

  Or maybe we had, cause I said, "Shouldn't I have like some schmutz and, uh, messy hair and..."

• 26:50Sean Hayes?

  Coffee grounds.

• 26:51Speaker 03

  ...poly styrene in my, in my hair?" And he goes, "Hey, good." It ain't that kind of movie.

• 27:00Speaker 03

  If anybody's looking at your hair, we're all in big trouble. And I went, boy, is he right.

• 27:09Sean Hayes?

  That's so great.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  You know, I told him, I said, you know, you ba- you really make a great director if you weren't so lazy. Because he knows his part and he knows everybody and he'll, he'll give you suggestions. They're all gold. I just idolized him. I mean, when he walked in the door the first time, because I went back after he did this stuff in Africa. Harrison came first and he comes on this soundstage, you know, in his Han Solo gear and I just, I already liked him in the conversation and, and American Feedy anyway, but I mean, I just was, the relationship was real because I idolized him. I looked at him as a mentor or an older brother and all that.

• 27:54Will Arnett?

  He was so fucking cool with the vest and shit.

• 27:58Speaker 03

  And when I read it, I thought, oh my God, why don't I ever get the part of the womanizing gambler and scoundrel? You know, I'm just like, oh, I'm going to Tachy Station. What?

• 28:09Will Arnett?

  I did a thing for Vanity Fair once and they said you can do any, you know, any sort of character from a film, blah, blah, blah. And I went as Harrison Ford from, from Star Wars.

• 28:18Sean Hayes?

  Oh, wow.

• 28:19Will Arnett?

  Yeah, because I was like, yeah, he was like, he was a cowboy. You know what I mean?

• 28:22Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. Speaking of that, speaking of that, you must know, Mark, that, that these guys know Scotty, my husband, is as big a fan as I am. I mean, we've, you know, we're just massive.

• 28:31Will Arnett?

  How far off camera is he right now?

• 28:33Sean Hayes?

  He's, he might be coming on right this second.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Oh, good.

• 28:36Sean Hayes?

  As, because he has a couple.

• 28:38Will Arnett?

  Oh, boy.

• 28:41Sean Hayes?

  He's dressed as Kylo Ren. Dressed as Kylo Ren. I mean, it doesn't get nerdier.

• 28:44Will Arnett?

  We've got Scotty in the Kylo Ren.

• 28:46Speaker 03

  More royalties for George Lucas. Very good.

• 28:49Sean Hayes?

  I know. So Scotty's got like a couple.

• 28:53Speaker 03

  Hi, Scott.

• 28:54Sean Hayes?

  He's been waiting.

• 28:55Speaker 04

  I've been sitting here for like an hour.

• 28:58Speaker 03

  You know, my mom told me, she said, when you were born, I couldn't decide on a name. It was between Mark and Scott. And they said, if you don't decide right now, we're just gonna put baby Hamill on the birth certificate. So she literally flipped a coin. And of course, when she tells you that at age seven, you go, oh, Scott's so much a cooler name. You should have named him Scott. You always want what you don't have, right?

• 29:22Sean Hayes?

  But Scott, I'm a big fan, but Scotty's like a mega, mega fan.

• 29:27Will Arnett?

  All right, go Scotty.

• 29:28Sean Hayes?

  And he's got a couple of questions.

• 29:29Speaker 04

  It's next level.

• 29:31Will Arnett?

  Hang on, first of all, welcome to Smartless, Scotty.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think this is Scotty's debut, is it not?

• 29:36Speaker 04

  It kind of is.

• 29:37Will Arnett?

  On the proper podcast.

• 29:39Speaker 04

  On the proper podcast. I may have been seen in the background, but that's.

• 29:42Sean Hayes?

  Isenogel.

• 29:43Speaker 04

  Um, Mark, it's such an honor to meet you. I mean, it just, it goes without saying, I'm such a huge fan I am. Um, but I, I think my question really is, at what point, when everything was done, the film was done, it was completed, and it was about to come out and all of that. I know the typical question is, did you know it was gonna be a hit? Of course, nobody knows it's gonna be a hit. Anything's gonna be a hit. It's not up to us. But when did you have that visceral sort of reaction like we all had? Or did you ever have it like audiences had where you realized, oh, this is, this is something bigger than all of us. This is.

• 30:19Speaker 03

  There was a moment, and it was, we, they sent the three of us, Carrie Harrison and me, on, to promote it. And we did Vancouver. I don't think it had opened. And then it opened, and when we came into Chicago, I looked outside the plane, I saw massive crowds. And I said, hey, you guys, there's somebody famous on this plane. We were, we were looking around to see if like there was a big sports star or whatever. And then as we got closer, said, hey, Carrie, look, that girl has buns on. She's got the Princess Leia. Harrison, that guy's got a, the vest and everything. Somebody had made a Luke tunic out of a pillow, because there were people dressed like us.

• 31:02Speaker 03

  And we all looked at it, and we're like, whoa, that's above and beyond. I mean, you want it to be a successful movie, but when you see people then role playing.

• 31:12Will Arnett?

  Especially 50 years later, right? I mean, it's like, hey, like a grown man. Go ahead, next question, Scotty.

• 31:19Speaker 04

  Listen, I'm here, I'm here to give Sean a break from the harassment, it's now for me.

• 31:24Speaker 03

  Well, listen, I have to tell you, it's a double edged sword because what'll happen is, and this has been happening for 20, 30 years, the kids that were little when it came out are now parents of their own and you'll be in an airport or something, and you know, a five or six year old, they think we made Star Wars two weeks ago. I mean, there's nothing to really date it in terms of models of cars or clothing or whatever. So, they have no concept of time and so they'll be, you know, the parents will gesture to a 55 year old me and go, "Hey kids, look who it is, it's Luke Skywalker." And they look at this, look at me in horror, like, "God, what happened to this guy? He really let himself go."

• 32:07Jason Bateman?

  Great makeup artist in the movie.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 32:11Sean Hayes?

  So wait, so Scotty, do you have another question before you take off?

• 32:15Jason Bateman?

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 32:16Speaker 04

  No, I didn't realize I'd be by people.

• 32:18Sean Hayes?

  No, you can hang out, I didn't know if you wanted to.

• 32:20Speaker 04

  No, no, no. No, I would love to.

• 32:21Will Arnett?

  Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, one second, let me just say, Scotty, Scotty, I don't think that Sean meant that, I think that what he meant to say, like, he didn't know if you had more, "Sean, I got this," and then, Sean, Sean, look at Scotty and tell him what he meant to say.

• 32:35Sean Hayes?

  Well, what I meant to say was, "I didn't know if you had to go somewhere and I didn't want to keep you on the podcast."

• 32:40Will Arnett?

  Where the fuck does he have to go? Be honest. I mean, what are you talking?

• 32:43Sean Hayes?

  And now Scott, how are you feeling? No, no, look at Sean and you tell him how you're feeling.

• 32:50Speaker 04

  I'm feeling wonderful and thank you for the opportunity.

• 32:54Sean Hayes?

  This is great.

• 32:55Speaker 04

  It's a pleasure to be here and I, uh...

• 32:57Sean Hayes?

  Well, our hour is up.

• 32:58Will Arnett?

  I'm glad that Mark could be here for the two, two of the biggest Star Wars fans in the world, that Mark, you could see them work out.

• 33:05Jason Bateman?

  In couples therapy.

• 33:06Will Arnett?

  In couples therapy.

• 33:07Speaker 03

  We owe everything to the fans, if it weren't for them, we wouldn't, we wouldn't be anywhere.

• 33:11Sean Hayes?

  Right, right, right.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  We didn't get that.

• 33:13Will Arnett?

  Wait, Scotty, you got it, Scotty, you have to have one last burning desire question.

• 33:16Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, something. What about, what about Norway with the Empire Strikes Back and the snow? Remember we were talking about that?

• 33:23Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't there, um, I, I, I could have this wrong, but wasn't there a thing where... You guys were, you know, where you were in Norway was, it was just absolutely treacherous with all the snow. And I think you guys were scheduled to, to go shoot somewhere or whatever it was, but it was so bad. Then you just went out the back door and did stuff.

• 33:44Speaker 03

  Exactly. Here's what happened. They, they, they had, you know, our luck was terrible. We had rainstorms in Tunisia that cost us, we had to shut down. Then we go to Norway, it was like the coldest winter in, I don't know, 11 billion years, whatever it was. And they had found a, a glacier, uh, which was about an hour and a half from where we were staying. And we would take, uh, we were meant to go on snow buggies because it photographed on camera, it photographed blue. And I remember now, this is the days before a lot of CGI, everything was practical in those days. So the day arrives for us to go to this blue glacier and they said, it's, it's impossible.

• 34:27Speaker 03

  I mean, even if we go there, it'll be whited out from the blizzard. So like you say, it's me, it was Han Solo rescuing, uh, Luke in the snow after getting hit by the Wampa. And if you turn the camera around, there's people on the balcony sipping cocoa, watching us.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  We're about a hundred yards from the back of the hotel.

• 34:47Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 34:48Jason Bateman?

  This is where you cut the belly open on the thing and you got inside?

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly. No way! So, I mean, they were all enjoying it, but, uh, it's funny now because, you know, in those days, there wasn't so much security. In other words, when I read Star Wars, I just blew my mind and I said, oh my God, I've got to get my friend Jonathan to read this. So my best friend Jonathan worked down at the LA Art Museum. And I passed it to him and he, and he read it. He said, yeah, I don't know how they're going to do this or what it is really. He goes, can I, can I give it to Meredith? I said, yeah, sure. So we passed it all around. All my, all my friends read it. It was before everything was coded with your name on it.

• 35:28Jason Bateman?

  Right, right.

• 35:28Speaker 03

  Where you have to protect it with your life, but, uh, it was just a different time. And like I say, I had a blast. I mean, one thing that hit me, I said, you know what's, what I love about? About this is you can take from it what you want. In other words, it's effortlessly feminist. The princess is anything but a shrinking violin. She takes over her own rescue.

• 35:49Will Arnett?

  Right.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  Makes Han and Luke look like a couple of chumps. You call this a rescue? Give me that gun. And she's standing up to Vader nose to nose and, you know, really giving him.

• 35:59Will Arnett?

  Right.

• 35:59Speaker 03

  And so what I'm saying is that is, is, is just accepted and, and it's, it's.

• 36:05Will Arnett?

  It was ahead of its time. How long was the shoot? Do you remember that?

• 36:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was, uh, like, I think it was scheduled for 10 weeks and we went 12.

• 36:14Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 36:14Speaker 03

  But that was, I mean, that was Star Wars on Empire. It was crazy because it was scheduled for three months, four months. Everybody wrapped and went home and I was still the only human being on the call sheet. There was a puppet, uh, a, uh, robot, various snakes and lizards and one human being. Cause they built Dagobah on a, on a soundstage at, uh, Elstree. And, uh, you know, we, I mean, it's amazing that we could get away with that. Cause I'm, when I was reading the script, I said, how are they going to do Yoda? Is he going to be, is he going to be, uh, you know, stop frame animation or whatever? I didn't know it was going to be a puppet. But I'm telling you Frank Oz is such an artist. When he puts that thing on,

• 36:59Speaker 03

  you're just there, you know? It was so real to me. Uh, and he was always breaking down. The eyes would go cockeyed, the ears wouldn't work. So they had like a stand-in, which was just a foam, uh, mold of his face. You know, with a piece of blue tape where his eyes are supposed to be. And so every time you see me on, in a single, talking to him, he's not there, but I can, I can be a Jedi. I'm saying to this foam rubber right here. But again, Frank Oz, I mean, he's, I saw, we're the best of friends. What is it? All these years later? He's just one of my favorite people in the business and so talented.

• 37:38Will Arnett?

  Oh, it's so amazing. Uh, Scotty, before you go, now I'm saying before you go. Before you go, before you go, do you want to do your, um, Yoda impression for Mark?

• 37:47Speaker 03

  Oh yes, let's hear it.

• 37:49Will Arnett?

  Oh boy. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

• 37:50Speaker 04

  I'm sure it's never been done.

• 37:53Jason Bateman?

  Oh, there you go. There you go. That was great. That was great.

• 37:55Will Arnett?

  That was good. That was good.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  No, thank you, guys. Thank you so much.

• 38:00Jason Bateman?

  Thanks, Scotty. I'll see you.

• 38:01Sean Hayes?

  Thank you, Scotty.

• 38:02Speaker 03

  That happens all the time. I was on CNN and Jim Acosta did a Yoda impression.

• 38:06Sean Hayes?

  Sure.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, everybody, everybody reverts to their nine-year-old nerd self.

• 38:12Sean Hayes?

  Yes, yes.

• 38:14Will Arnett?

  Because, because it's like, unlike anything else, everybody on the planet has seen it and knows what it is. Think about that.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's strange. And I have to tell you, when I read it, I thought, you know, this is, I am so there. I mean, even if I had not got the part, I would be dying to see this movie. That's, that's how I felt about it.

• 38:36Will Arnett?

  Do you remember, you know, I love that story that you talk about on Empire where you, whenever you, you know, if the camera were to turn around, they'd see people sipping cocoa on the, on the deck. Do you look at certain scenes from, over the years, from, over all the movies and go like, well, I've done this before, but you go like, I remember I was really sick that day. Like, you watch a take and you go, oh, yeah, that was the day I ate the bad fish.

• 38:56Jason Bateman?

  Well, that was the first scene we shot or the last scene we shot.

• 38:59Speaker 03

  I, I saw them when they came out, but I, I don't go back and see them again. In fact, when they did the reissue, with the special editions, when they called me, I said, oh, yeah, if you could send me a copy, I'd like to see it. When my kids heard about it, they said, are you kidding? You're not gonna go see it in the theater? I said, why do you guys want to see it? You've seen it a bazillion times on, on video, they said, but never on a big screen.

• 39:22Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  Oh. So, I did. I saw, I saw Empire, and the first one, Empire and Jedi, once in the theater, but I haven't seen them again since. And the same with the sequels. You see them and then you just move on.

• 39:37Jason Bateman?

  You've seen Star Wars, Empire and Jedi only once in the movie theaters and never again? No.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't watch them on video, to tell you the truth. And there's, there's, that's, there's a certain disconnect because the fans have seen them not only far more recently, but many, many, many, many, many more times than I have. So, they'll ask me questions where I go, wait a second. Cause this is like, do we go to the

• 40:05Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah, right.

• 40:06Speaker 03

  They go, well, it's not in a movie. It's in Splinter of the Mind's Eye. It's a novel by Harry Dean Fox. So they, they play the games, they read the books and they know way more about it. I know I've disappointed people. I took a Star Wars quiz once and flunked it. Nathan said, it was multiple choice. What kind of a moral

• 40:23Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I was gonna ask you when the last time was that you saw the first one, Star Wars?

• 40:29Speaker 03

  Would have been 97, cause it was the 20th anniversary of the, when it first came out. But I mean, the question's like, what was Han Solo smuggling? A jewelry, B units, C? It was spices. And who knows the, I mean, the minutia that these people have is really astonishing. And I hate to disappoint people if I go to these.

• 40:53Will Arnett?

  Didn't they have spice on Dune too?

• 40:54Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, they had spice on Dune, yeah.

• 40:56Will Arnett?

  What's with the spices in space?

• 40:58Sean Hayes?

  Well, people like

• 40:58Will Arnett?

  I said, it's a real hot commodity in space. You know, get some paragon up in space and you're living up the you're in the highest of cotton. Yeah, go ahead.

• 41:07Sean Hayes?

  What is the craziest fan interaction you've had?

• 41:10Will Arnett?

  Wow, God.

• 41:11Sean Hayes?

  Like, do you have like, besides today with Scotty?

• 41:13Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Well, number one, don't sign body parts.

• 41:17Sean Hayes?

  Oh, boy.

• 41:18Speaker 03

  Sure. No good can come from that.

• 41:19Sean Hayes?

  Okay. Uh, noted.

• 41:22Speaker 03

  For the most part, you know what it's like. I mean,

• 41:24Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:25Speaker 03

  I, when, when it all happened and went crazy, we were sort of in the center of the storm. So it seemed like everybody was going nuts around us. We weren't going nuts.

• 41:36Sean Hayes?

  Right, right, right.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  But it was a different time. I mean, you'd have people just proposition you like, really? Yeah, come on back.

• 41:43Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 41:45Sean Hayes?

  And we will be right back.

• 41:49Sean Hayes?

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• 44:36Sean Hayes?

  And back to the show.

• 44:39Will Arnett?

  Somebody asked me recently, they said, if you had a time machine and you could go back to any time to live, what would it be? And I said, late 70s California.

• 44:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:49Will Arnett?

  Because it feels like it was like a, just like a, a kind of unregulated, just kind of a constant sunset.

• 44:55Sean Hayes?

  Big party.

• 44:56Will Arnett?

  Just good time party.

• 44:57Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:58Will Arnett?

  No rules, kind of easy breezy.

• 45:00Sean Hayes?

  It was great, man.

• 45:00Will Arnett?

  Yeah, it was great, man. Well, you were nine, but, but Mark, you as somebody who was like at the pinnacle of the film industry in that time, it must have been a lot of fun.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was, but you always try and say, I haven't changed. Everybody else is going bonkers, but you know, you want to hang on to that. And plus you, I immediately tried to throw myself into things. I wanted to do character parts. I wasn't getting them. You know how these guys, you do one thing well, they want you to do the same thing over and over again.

• 45:31Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  So I went to New York and I was able to do character parts. It wasn't until I discovered animation where I went, oh, where's this been all my life? Cause they cast with their ears, not their eyes.

• 45:41Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 45:41Speaker 03

  And you're able to play all these parts you'd never get on camera.

• 45:44Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, you're like such a superstar voiceover actor now. It's incredible.

• 45:48Speaker 03

  But I'm, I'm too short to be the Joker, you know? He's 6'2". What I'm, you know, I'm 5'9" at best.

• 45:53Sean Hayes?

  But wait a minute, this is, this is, Mark, this is you as the Joker, which is fucking crazy. It's incredible. Because now there's a teeny little bit of me in you too. That's why aren't you laughing? Wow. That's incredible.

• 46:12Will Arnett?

  No way.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's from Arkham Asylum. And you know, I had done the role for however long the first iteration came in. There's so many good Jokers after me. Kevin Michael Richardson and Jeff Bennett.

• 46:23Sean Hayes?

  No, you're, you're one of the most iconic ones now. It's incredible.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  But what I'm saying is when we got to the video games, cause I mean, I'd get mail in the original incarnation saying, why doesn't the Joker kill more people? And you have to say, it's a children's cartoon.

• 46:36Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 46:37Speaker 03

  There's this standards and practices. There was a list of things that you could not do. You could not. Punch someone directly in the face. You couldn't throw someone through a plate glass window. No nudity, no liquor, no drugs, etc. Somebody made a drawing, Bruce Tim made a drawing of Batman flying through a glass window with a gin bottle and a hypodermic needle and a girl, you know, bare chested. He broke all the rules in one. But when, by the time we got to the video games, which is, I don't know, I'm bad on time these days, but 10, 15, 20 years later. Cause Kevin Conroy was always my Batman.

• 47:17Will Arnett?

  Okay, that's what I was gonna ask you, who your Batman was, yeah.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  When Kevin passed, I said, this is a time for me not to do it anymore because, you know, I got to the point where my agent would call and they say, they want you for Joker. I'd say, is Kevin doing it? If they said yes, I'd say, then I'm in. I wouldn't even have to read it. But what I couldn't get used to was the video games, cause they were for 16 and older. And people did die. I mean, there was, I'm looking at going, can we say this? Much more sophisticated than the early stuff.

• 47:48Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, for sure.

• 47:50Speaker 03

  But I want to ask you a question, Sean.

• 47:52Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 47:52Speaker 03

  Because one of the things I miss about living in New York, cause we had an apartment there for 19 years, is, is seeing theater. And I would have loved to have seen you play Oscar Levant. Cause I could see it. I could see your face morphing into that character.

• 48:08Will Arnett?

  Oh, so long Oscar was such a good, oh dude.

• 48:11Speaker 03

  And when I was a kid, I mean, on, on, in the summertime, I could stay up past my bedtime and watch Twilight Zone and Dick Van Dyke and all the shows I loved. And I saw, I used to watch Jack Parr and Steve Allen and Oscar Levant fascinated me as a kid, cause he was effortlessly witty, but he had all these tics and

• 48:32Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 48:33Speaker 03

  nervous tics and the smoking and all of it. And I thought, well, you know, but I thought you did.

• 48:39Sean Hayes?

  I'm gonna do it again in London in next summer, but just for a limited time, if you find yourself out that way.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  I'll keep that in mind. I'll keep that in mind.

• 48:47Will Arnett?

  Sean, what a mind blow. If you go and you're doing a play that you wanted Tony for, which again. Sorry, just so quick. Yeah, you wanted Tony Ford, and then you get to go and you do it on the west end of London.

• 48:59Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 48:59Will Arnett?

  And you've just invited Mark Hamill.

• 49:02Sean Hayes?

  I know, that is crazy.

• 49:04Will Arnett?

  No, it's true, Mark, this is big for him.

• 49:06Jason Bateman?

  This is huge.

• 49:07Sean Hayes?

  This is huge.

• 49:08Will Arnett?

  Big for anybody, but it's big.

• 49:09Speaker 03

  I had a rule with the stage manager, I say, don't tell me who's out front, because the one, what happened was, I came in and everyone said, you know who's in the audience? Jackie Gleason.

• 49:21Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 49:21Speaker 03

  And I thought, oh no, because Harrigan and Hart had been pitched to Gleason and Carney in the 60s, and it didn't happen for whatever reason. But he, you know, he's really familiar with that era and that music and all of it. So, I mean, it, it was something I wish I had not known, because you want to be totally there, you don't want to be thinking, oh, what did Jackie think of that?

• 49:43Sean Hayes?

  Right, right, for sure, for sure. And sometimes, you know, you can't, you can't help it because other cast members would be like, did you hear Meryl, Meryl Streep's in the audience?

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, it's terrible. So, I mean, they would tell me, when I could come off, they'd hand me a note and I'd see, you know, who was there. But, uh,

• 49:57Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 49:58Speaker 03

  Uh, that must have been my, probably easier for you to do Levant than doing someone as recognizable as Jerry Lewis, and you just killed it.

• 50:07Sean Hayes?

  Oh, thanks.

• 50:08Will Arnett?

  You know what, you know what, he was, let me put it this way, my, my review was, he was Oscar Levant, just as I remembered him.

• 50:14Sean Hayes?

  Oh, God, that's what my dad wrote. Okay, so anyway.

• 50:19Sean Hayes?

  So, I can't believe you remember that.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  Well, did you, did Will and Jason meet on Arrested Development? Is that where you guys met?

• 50:25Jason Bateman?

  We did.

• 50:26Will Arnett?

  Yeah, we did.

• 50:26Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:27Speaker 03

  And by the way, I'm still mad they canceled that. Everything I like gets canceled.

• 50:30Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 50:31Speaker 03

  And I hold grudges for, I'm still mad they canceled Square Pegs, and that was 1982.

• 50:36Sean Hayes?

  Oh, my God, remember that?

• 50:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, Buffalo Bill.

• 50:39Jason Bateman?

  Sarah Jessica Parker never would have done Sex and the City.

• 50:42Speaker 03

  There you go. Buffalo Bill with Dabney Coleman, he and she, Caluchis Department.

• 50:48Will Arnett?

  Mark, I got a question for you. When you said you, you, you were, you had done the pilot, you got fired from Eight is Enough, is that what happened? You, and, or they, you got replaced?

• 50:58Speaker 03

  No, they just, they redid it with, like I say, uh,

• 51:03Speaker 03

  A different father.

• 51:04Will Arnett?

  Right.

• 51:05Speaker 03

  They.

• 51:06Sean Hayes?

  Well, that's we call that fired. Yeah.

• 51:07Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. I was fired.

• 51:10Will Arnett?

  But what year, like, how soon after that did Star Wars happen?

• 51:14Speaker 03

  Well, I think, yeah, it was probably six months later or something.

• 51:17Will Arnett?

  So what's crazy about it is, the reason I bring it up, and I've talked about this before, is six months before I got the pilot for Rest of the Development that changed my life, I got let go from a show. They replaced my character. Actually, they just wrote him out. And at the time, I was like, oh, I was a serious writer on a sitcom. I was gonna make money and all this kind of shit. And I got so bad. And six months later, I didn't know that the universe had made space for me to have to do the thing that would change my life.

• 51:44Speaker 03

  Oh, see?

• 51:44Will Arnett?

  And so it's very, now, I didn't become a global superstar the way you did, but

• 51:48Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 51:48Will Arnett?

  but but still, it like was the thing that really propelled me and gave me, you know, the career.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  I had a similar thing happen. I got a part on The Texas Wheelers with Jack E. Lamb. You know, that cockeyed character actor from westerns?

• 52:02Will Arnett?

  Yep.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Now, when he did Support Your Local Sheriff, Support Your Local Gunfire, then he got to show his comedy chops. And this pilot was an irreverent, it was like the anti-Waltons. We all, Gary Busey was the titular head of the family, because Jack comes back in the pilot, having been in jail for stealing a car or whatever. But my character, Doobie, Doobie Wheeler, was, what I loved about it was, he was hilarious, but he was so serious about himself. He took himself very seriously, thought he was a womanizer, even though he was a virgin, all these things. It was really, for its time, in 1974, I remember, New York

• 52:47Speaker 03

  Times said, possibly the finest bucolic comedy since Tobacco Road. And I said, oh, man, not only is this a breakout part, but it's a comedy part. Because the most part, I was playing real straightforward, high school students and that kind of stuff. So I was really jazzed, and it came out, and it made 13 episodes. It got canceled after four episodes. And I was devastated, because I said, I'm not gonna get another. Good part like this.

• 53:14Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 53:14Speaker 03

  I I just don't see it happening. I was really, really depressed, but the upshot is if that had run.

• 53:21Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Then I wouldn't have been able to do Star Wars.

• 53:23Will Arnett?

  Exactly. That was that's my point, which is like.

• 53:26Jason Bateman?

  We would have had Freddy Freddy Krueger out there swinging around a lightsaber.

• 53:29Will Arnett?

  I mean, and that would have been imagine all the scratch marks on Vayner's cape.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  No, actually, it would have been Will Seltzer.

• 53:36Jason Bateman?

  Oh, yeah.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  And Terry Nun from she was in a band. Uh, I can't remember.

• 53:41Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, Terry Nun.

• 53:42Speaker 03

  Terry Nun, she was in not Joy Division. I don't know. You Google it, but I mean, it was like I say, it was cast as a set, not there was no mixing and matching.

• 53:54Jason Bateman?

  Right. Yeah, right. You came as a package.

• 53:56Will Arnett?

  Berlin. She's the singer from Berlin.

• 53:59Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 53:59Will Arnett?

  The band Berlin. Yeah.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 54:01Sean Hayes?

  You know, Mark, I I have, as I always say with my guests that I bring on that I have 7,000 questions. But I wanted to, you know, we we got to let you go because it's been an hour and we promised we'd only have you for an hour here. So so the, you know, all the stuff I wanted to ask you about, just like, you know, coming back to The Force Awakens and what was that with J.J. Abrams? Anyway, we'll talk about that at dinner sometime, hopefully. But I watched The Fall of the House of Usher. I thought you were incredible. You have The Life of Chuck coming out on Netflix, which looks so good. You have The Long Walk, another that Stephen King movie that comes out in 2025, which is fucking that looks incredible.

• 54:38Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Sean Hayes?

  Um, and you've been getting all these accolades for The Wild Robot, the whole.

• 54:41Speaker 03

  I'm in the new I'm in the new SpongeBob SquarePants.

• 54:44Sean Hayes?

  You're in the new SpongeBob SquarePants movie.

• 54:46Speaker 03

  Have you seen Wild Robot? I mean, it's funny that we should bring it up now that it's we're wrapping up.

• 54:51Will Arnett?

  I have. I've seen it. It's it's so great.

• 54:53Jason Bateman?

  I heard it's fantastic.

• 54:54Will Arnett?

  So great.

• 54:55Speaker 03

  I read the book, this book by Peter Brown. There's a reason it was the number one bestseller in the New York Times and won all these awards. It is so perfect that I thought, please don't mess this up. If they can capture even 20% of the charm of this book. We're on a winner and they kept the illustrations, the exact same as in the book. The cast is beyond great.

• 55:18Will Arnett?

  I was reading the book to the kids, to the kids. Yeah, it's amazing.

• 55:21Speaker 03

  But it's so effortless and it's so meaningful in this time about tolerance and joining together for the greater good.

• 55:29Will Arnett?

  That's where they lost me. Yeah, to be honest, if I'm being real, that's where they.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  It seemed very timely, you know, given what we're going through.

• 55:37Sean Hayes?

  But it's a huge hit and it's like getting recognized, which is great.

• 55:41Will Arnett?

  It's really, really good.

• 55:42Speaker 03

  I'm so lucky.

• 55:43Jason Bateman?

  Well, Mark, I just say just for me, you're just, you're such a delight and I'm so excited that you're such a delight because myself, like so many people my age, you're such a part of just who we are and who we wanted to be and the fact that you have maintained such a kindness and a warmth and a decency in your, in your person, it seems, is just, is such a relief and thank you for, uh, for being here, buddy.

• 56:13Speaker 03

  Thank you for saying that, but I have to tell you, these people, when they come up to you, you know, and, and talk about it, they put it in such personal terms, you know, that it helped me get through my mother's, my father's divorce or, you know, whatever it is, I never get tired of it. It's like, oh no, let's not talk about that again. I want to hear what they have to say, you know? I think at this point, since I'm sort of soft focus on the details, you know, because I haven't seen it that much. And really, Luke had a light presence in the sequels. He did a silent cameo in the first one and a cameo in the last one. So I only had that middle part. But what I'm saying is, it's, it's

• 56:53Speaker 03

  something that I don't take for granted and I think how lucky I am because people say, oh, aren't you sorry that you're remembered for nothing but Luke? When in fact, I never expected to be remembered for anything. I just wanted a job.

• 57:09Will Arnett?

  I mean, what an absurd, what an absurd thing, if anybody actually says that, what an absolutely absurd fucking thing to say.

• 57:16Jason Bateman?

  It's the most famous film in the history of entertainment.

• 57:18Will Arnett?

  And like you said, it's that connection and I was, I'm going to echo what Jason said. For a kid who grew up in, in Toronto and saw it the first time at the. Was it the Pleasant Theater on Mount Pleasant?

• 57:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:28Will Arnett?

  I- in Toronto, in the city. For me to be here all these years later, talking to you, the impact.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  But that you're a good person, too.

• 57:37Will Arnett?

  Yeah, and then on top of it, you're a great dude.

• 57:39Speaker 03

  It's a gift.

• 57:40Will Arnett?

  Is really, is really something.

• 57:42Speaker 03

  And I appreciate Sean mentioning Follow the House of Usher, because I'm used to doing really bizarre and atypical roles in animation. This is the first time Mike Flanagan asked me to do a character that would have been routine in animation on camera.

• 57:57Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, you were so great.

• 57:59Speaker 03

  Who is this soulless, evil sociopath. Naturally, they thought of me.

• 58:04Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, sure.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so grateful to, to Mike Flanagan.

• 58:09Sean Hayes?

  But we watched it. I just love that. You, you knocked it out of the park. I, I loved you in that part. It was so unexpected and absolutely thrilling to watch.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  And it was, it was really one of those things where, when I read it, I thought, how am I gonna do this? I usually have a slight concept of what is required of your character to make the whole thing work. And it was a huge ensemble. Mike does these wonderful, you know, Haunting of Hill House, Haunting of Blimander, Midnight Mass. So I was a huge fan of his and I thought, even though I don't know how to do this, if he thinks I can do it, then by gosh, I'm gonna do it. But it was really scary, because when I was flying to Vancouver, I still had no idea. And little by little, his wardrobe helped me pick out his wardrobe. As I said to the hair people, this guy wants to get out of bed in the morning, just draw his, with one swipe of the towel.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  So cut it short enough so it just lays down, doesn't stick up, just lays down. Then they found the glasses, they found the hat, and the last thing that came, which was really interesting, because we didn't discuss it. But we were doing a scene in the Roderick and Madeline Usher's office.

• 59:15Sean Hayes?

  Yep.

• 59:16Speaker 03

  And I said, how do I convey that this guy is completely dead inside? And I just started talking like this. Well, I called him. He didn't call us back. I'm, I got a guy looking out for him. I didn't discuss it ahead of time and I didn't say I'm gonna go in and do this voice. I just end the moment said, should I do it? And I did. And after we did a couple of setups, later in the day, Mike walked past me and just said, love the voice.

• 59:42Sean Hayes?

  Yes.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  And I said, oh, I'm home.

• 59:45Sean Hayes?

  So great. You became a completely different person. I love that.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  Yes. And that's so rare. You know how exciting it is to let that someone thinks outside the box of what you're known for. And I'm really lucky. And then again, he cast me in a small part in The Life of Chuck, which again, he said, I'm gonna send you the script based on a Stephen King novella. And there's a part for you in it and blah, blah, blah. So I'm expecting, okay, you got Stephen King, you've got Mike Flanagan. This is gonna be the horror epic of all time. I'm telling you guys, it is the sweetest, poignant, warm story of a boy named Chuck at four different stages of his life. He

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  grows up to be Tom Hiddleston. But it's so atypical of both of them. And I said to them when we made it, I said to Trevor Macy, the producer, I said, I don't know how we're gonna promote this because I it's indescribable. I mean, you have to see it to get it.

• 1:00:42Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I can't wait to see it.

• 1:00:44Speaker 03

  It's amazing. And you know, I saw it at his house once, just in a little room. But when I saw it at the Toronto Film Festival with an audience, it was a revelation. Because it wasn't in competition, but it was voted favorite film. Because the audience becomes such a part of it that things that you didn't expect to get reactions, got reactions, they laughed, they applauded, people were in tears. I mean, it's really special.

• 1:01:15Sean Hayes?

  What's that one called?

• 1:01:16Speaker 03

  It's called The Life of Chuck. And it's told backwards. It's act three, act two, act one. And I'm only in act one at the end of the picture. But Tom is great. This boy that plays him at age 12, Benjamin Pejack, remember that name? Because this kid, he can sing, he dances, he played, he was the Ron Howard part in the revival of Music Man on Broadway, Hugh Jackman. And I'm telling you, I mean, I just.

• 1:01:45Speaker 03

  I wish you were my real grandson. He's just phenomenal.

• 1:01:49Will Arnett?

  Well, I can't wait to see it.

• 1:01:51Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that and.

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  That comes out in May.

• 1:01:53Sean Hayes?

  Fantastic. And then, and the long walk, I can't wait because that's a crazy concept.

• 1:01:57Speaker 03

  By the way, I read that. I'm thinking, ugh, this, because I always read the books before they've even seen the script. It's excruciating. It's so horrible.

• 1:02:06Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, it's a hundred teenage boys are forced to participate like in an annual thing where they have to walk at a constant pace or they get killed, right? Or something like that?

• 1:02:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's people ready to shoot them in the head. I mean, I'm telling you, it's so gross. I thought, there's no way. I mean, I'll watch it maybe, but I can't do something like this. And again, my son read it and said, are you nuts? This is fantastic. You gotta do it.

• 1:02:28Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:29Speaker 03

  But just the violence, the gun violence alone. Now luckily, it's now they do it CGI where you don't have to do squibs and everybody goes.

• 1:02:37Sean Hayes?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:02:38Speaker 03

  Gets cleaned up after each take because the bug goes flying. But I mean, it is really gross.

• 1:02:42Sean Hayes?

  I love that. I love it. Well, you got a lot of good stuff coming up. And by the way, if you have any Star Wars memorabilia you want to get rid of, please send it over.

• 1:02:50Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:51Sean Hayes?

  And.

• 1:02:52Speaker 03

  When specifically are you gonna do Oscar in London?

• 1:02:55Sean Hayes?

  Uh, July through September at the Barbican Theater.

• 1:02:59Speaker 03

  Like three months?

• 1:03:00Sean Hayes?

  Like, yeah, well, no, uh, seven weeks.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  Okay, seven weeks.

• 1:03:05Sean Hayes?

  The end of July too.

• 1:03:06Jason Bateman?

  Sounds like fun. Summer in England.

• 1:03:08Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, Mark, it's been an honor and a privilege to talk to you. Um, I echo what these guys say. I just can't even believe I'm talking to you. This is crazy.

• 1:03:19Speaker 03

  When I listened to you guys do with Steve Martin and Martin Short, I said, well, after this, I've gotta be a letdown. Nobody can top those two. It was one of the best episodes.

• 1:03:30Sean Hayes?

  You've been such a joy.

• 1:03:31Jason Bateman?

  You hit the peak, sir.

• 1:03:32Will Arnett?

  No, you're incredible.

• 1:03:33Jason Bateman?

  Thank you for joining us, Mark.

• 1:03:34Sean Hayes?

  Thank you.

• 1:03:35Speaker 03

  Thanks for having me.

• 1:03:36Will Arnett?

  What a thrill.

• 1:03:37Sean Hayes?

  If you ever get hungry, call me. I'll have a meal.

• 1:03:40Jason Bateman?

  Thanks, Mark.

• 1:03:41Speaker 03

  What a kind man you are.

• 1:03:42Jason Bateman?

  Bye, buddy. Bye.

• 1:03:44Sean Hayes?

  Bye.

• 1:03:46Sean Hayes?

  Hi.

• 1:03:47Jason Bateman?

  Well, Sean, you gonna be alright? You need to mop, uh, you need to towel off, or?

• 1:03:53Sean Hayes?

  Yes, I do. I was sweating a little bit the whole time.

• 1:03:54Jason Bateman?

  I mean, my lord, what a guest for you.

• 1:03:57Sean Hayes?

  Isn't that crazy? He was supposed to come on for a long time and-

• 1:03:59Will Arnett?

  Now what?

• 1:04:00Sean Hayes?

  You just couldn't, now what? I know, I'm done.

• 1:04:02Will Arnett?

  Harrison Ford. You said Mark Allen, now what? I mean, I guess Harrison, you can make your way through the cast. Of course Harrison would be amazing.

• 1:04:08Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, Carrie would be hard to book, I'm sure. She would like that, she would like that joke.

• 1:04:13Will Arnett?

  You want to say, "Cut that now," or no? She would love it.

• 1:04:15Sean Hayes?

  She would love that joke. But, um, I wouldn't, you know, I didn't even get to ask him about, um, you know, the fact that actors, we kind of measure our lives in like milestone of jobs, right? We all talk, always talk about like, "I was doing this at that time and this and that." And for him, Star Wars never, there's no end to that milestone.

• 1:04:36Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:37Sean Hayes?

  Like, he reprised Luke's on Mandalorian with Jon Favreau, you know?

• 1:04:40Jason Bateman?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:04:41Sean Hayes?

  And, like, he is so open and willing to share, to not shy away from it and to embrace it, which I think is really important.

• 1:04:50Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, and he's, he loves the legacy of it. He's not frustrated that that was then and this is now.

• 1:04:58Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I like that, I like that about him. He's not, you know, sometimes they play it down like, "Yeah, yeah, I did." You're like, "No, no, no, it's a big, it's a crazy thing."

• 1:05:05Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, he was the star of, is the star of the biggest film, most famous film in the history of our business.

• 1:05:13Sean Hayes?

  Totally.

• 1:05:13Jason Bateman?

  It's a, it's a, it's a, just a remarkable thing. And, uh, thank God he's proud of it.

• 1:05:19Sean Hayes?

  I know, incredible.

• 1:05:21Will Arnett?

  Which is your favorite film of all the films, Sean?

• 1:05:24Sean Hayes?

  Well, The Empire Strikes Back is pretty special.

• 1:05:26Will Arnett?

  Yeah?

• 1:05:27Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I mean, I like, I'll, I live for all of them, but like-

• 1:05:30Will Arnett?

  What was the thing about Empire Strikes Back?

• 1:05:32Sean Hayes?

  It was just, I don't know, it was a little more sophisticated, it was a little more, there had, there was-

• 1:05:37Jason Bateman?

  We'll turn it back into a bi here.

• 1:05:38Sean Hayes?

  A little, there's a little more-

• 1:05:40Will Arnett?

  Oh, no, I was gonna do a special one. No, because I know a lot of people felt like, that was, well, A New Hope is the first one, so it's like the first time you see it, so it's amazing.

• 1:05:49Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, huge, huge.

• 1:05:50Will Arnett?

  Empire Strikes Back is an amazing cinematic feat and-

• 1:05:53Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:53Will Arnett?

  People weren't, they didn't love as much, and this is a very special return of the Jedi!

• 1:05:59Sean Hayes?

  Jedi, Jedi!

• 1:06:00Jason Bateman?

  Jedi, Jedi!

• 1:06:02Sean Hayes?

  That's not even a word!

• 1:06:04Will Arnett?

  I know, but it's Star Wars, it's allowed for you!

• 1:06:07Sean Hayes?

  Alright, fine.

• 1:06:15Will Arnett?

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• 1:06:20Will Arnett?

  Smartless is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Michael Grant Terry, Rob Armjarv, and Bennett Barbago.

• 1:06:32Will Arnett?

  Smart. Less.

• 1:06:37Jason Bateman?

  What do I gift my mom and nieces?

• 1:06:38Speaker 05

  Walmart has top brands you know, like Ninja, Disney, Lego.

• 1:06:45Jason Bateman?

  Oh, Dad loves music.

• 1:06:47Speaker 05

  Sonos can bring his songs to life with sound that hits just right.

• 1:06:53Jason Bateman?

  And my coffee-obsessed bestie?

• 1:06:55Speaker 05

  Delongi Brews Coffee, right for mornings extra bright.

• 1:06:58Jason Bateman?

  All those great brands at Walmart? Who knew?

• 1:07:00Speaker 05

  We knew, now you do too.

• 1:07:03Will Arnett?

  Shop gifts no love at Walmart.

• 1:07:08Sean Hayes?

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• 1:07:51Sean Hayes?

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