Haunted with So Supernatural Podcast

In this special crossover, we’re joined by sisters Rasha Pecoraro and Yvette Gentile of the So Supernatural podcast and Root of Evil — the true crime podcast exploring their connection to George Hodel, the prime suspect in the murder of Elizabeth Short, ‘The Black Dahlia’. What starts as a heartfelt conversation about their late mother’s intuitive gifts quickly turns into an unforgettable dive into ghosts, goddesses, and generational hauntings. We talk Hawaiian spirits, ancestral protection, and personal hauntings, including encounters with Madame Pele, Night Marchers, and the chilling energy of the Sowden House. We also review listener-submitted ghost evidence in a new segment we are calling Caught Dead Handed, including chilling EVPs, apparitions, and a demonic figure that literally turns off the lights when it sees the camera. We finish with a palate cleanser, playing a few hilarious rounds of Paranormal Would You Rather. Whether you're here for the ghost stories, the sisterly chaos, or the deeper conversations about healing through the supernatural, this one hits every note. 👻 Links to So Supernatural & Information on the collab - we recorded on their feed, discussing the Demon of Brownsville (also releasing on 6/13) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/so-supernatural/id1500667648 Root of Evil Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/root-of-evil-the-true-story-of-the/id1450277129 Ghost penis link: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/ghosts-penis-caught-camera-stunned-24770890 Watch the Video Version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, howdy.

• 1:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi.

• 1:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's going on?

• 1:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 1:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls.

• 1:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we are your ghostesses Corinne and Sabrina. And today, we are joined by some really cool, exciting guests, Rasha and Yvette of So Supernatural, the podcast.

• 2:03Corinne Vien?

  We are obsessed with them.

• 2:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The love that you will see us experience while recording this episode, I cried, I cry.

• 2:13Corinne Vien?

  They're just the best, nicest humans, and they've just gone through so much.

• 2:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:18Corinne Vien?

  But they're so positive. Positive, and they're so in tune with like, the spirit world, and just so empathetic, and.

• 2:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love them.

• 2:26Corinne Vien?

  They deserve to be haunted by the best.

• 2:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, and that is what we do in this episode, is talk about some pretty positive hauntings. We did do a collab with them, so we have an episode on the So Supernatural feed that also comes out today, June 13th, which is also a Friday the 13th, which I think is amazing. And we talk about the Demon of Brownsville Road, which is a haunting, scary tale. So if you want something scary, go check out that episode. And then this episode is more of just a conversation about the paranormal, and we play a couple games.

• 3:00Corinne Vien?

  We lighten the mood after a terrifying tale on So Supernatural.

• 3:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we review some paranormal evidence in this episode. So enjoy, check out both episodes, and let us know what you think. And tell us what you hear in these EVPs and what you see in the photos.

• 3:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi.

• 3:38Corinne Vien?

  Aloha.

• 3:39Speaker 04

  Aloha, y'all.

• 3:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi.

• 3:41Speaker 04

  Bonjour, no.

• 3:43Corinne Vien?

  Hi, it's nice to see you guys again.

• 3:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 3:45Corinne Vien?

  It's always amazing to see you.

• 3:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We talked about a really spooky topic on your episode. So we wanted to have a little bit more casual conversation, and we have some games planned for you.

• 3:57Corinne Vien?

  So fun.

• 3:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Most importantly, want to get to the meat of it, which is, one, do you two believe in the paranormal?

• 4:05Speaker 04

  100%.

• 4:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I was gonna say 100 million percent.

• 4:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good.

• 4:12Corinne Vien?

  It'd be kind of hard to have a podcast called So Supernatural that you host and not

• 4:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And not believe.

• 4:17Corinne Vien?

  In the paranormal.

• 4:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 4:19Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 4:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Especially Rasha, like you live in Hawaii.

• 4:23Speaker 05

  Well, born and raised.

• 4:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you live there now, Rasha? No.

• 4:26Speaker 05

  No, I know people always think that. I think it's because I always, you know, use so many Hawaiian words, but I live with my wife and daughter just outside of Portland, Oregon.

• 4:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 4:35Speaker 05

  But born and raised, that's home. Always go back.

• 4:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So we need to talk about, what was that like? And because Hawaii has so many beliefs and like the night marchers and just different legends from Hawaii. Have you experienced any? What are ones that like people don't really know about that you really believe in?

• 4:55Speaker 05

  So I have always immersed myself in the Hawaiian culture. I'm not lucky enough to have Hawaiian blood, but I am lucky enough that I was born and raised there. But I always have embraced Hawaiian culture, including all of the lore and the legends. And I believe all of them. I'm so obsessed with Madame Pelé, the goddess of fire. I've always been obsessed with the night marchers and I loved your episode on the night marchers. For me personally, I think, so Madame Pelé comes in different forms.

• 5:35Speaker 05

  Sometimes she comes as a beautiful Hawaiian goddess and other times she comes in the form of what's called a tutu or tutu Pelé in a grandma form. So she's normally wearing like this long white dress and has beautiful silver hair. And one of the last homes, or the last home I lived in with my dad and stepmom, because my sister and I, Yvette and I have, you know, different dads and I was always 50/50, half the time with my mom and Yvette and half the time with my dad and stepmom. And in the last home we lived in with my dad and stepmom, my father was convinced that tutu Pelé haunted our house.

• 6:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No way.

• 6:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:15Corinne Vien?

  Wait, why? Why did he, why did he think that?

• 6:17Speaker 05

  He said he would see her in the shower a lot. He told me this. I do have to preface this with he did a lot of pakalolo. But in the shower is a Yeah, I don't think he was doing Pakalolo in the shower, but but he would always say that he would see her. And I always kind of felt a protection from her there. And I've been very open. I experienced a lot of abuse from my dad, verbal, emotional, physical. And so in that home, none of that ever happened. And I truly think he was afraid of Tutupi. Oh, that's amazing. It's so amazing. It's so amazing.

• 6:59Speaker 05

  And so a few times, he would even see that there were little footprints. And there's this other mythical legend, which I also believe in called Menihunis. And there are these small Hawaiian warriors or Hawaiian people who, again, you know, no one has ever physically seen in modern day times. But most of Hawaiians, or what were considered as kamaaina, means we come from the land, even though we are not Kanakamali, we don't have Hawaiian blood.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Running through our blood, yes.

• 7:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, my dad would see all these little Menihuni footprints in one of the bedrooms. So he was convinced that Tutupi was there and the Menihunis were there. So I was always protected. That's my long winded answer. I'll let my sister talk about anything she's experienced as well. Wow.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  Russia was born in Hawaii and I came to Hawaii. Mom brought me to Hawaii, I should say, when I was, for the first time to meet her real family. I was five years old and mom fell in love like right away with the land, with the energy, with the aina of Hawaii.

• 8:02Speaker 05

  How can you not? Exactly.

• 8:04Speaker 04

  It's so special. You know, there are those people that come and either love it or those that it's just too slow for them and they don't like it. But those of us that go and, and feel that energy, it's like you never want to leave. So for me, growing up in Hawaii, when we finally came there to live, I was probably eight, nine years old. So and I had come from San Diego. So, you know, I had Disneyland, I had SeaWorld. So I was kind of like, okay, there's just the beach. Like, what am I gonna do, you know? But obviously, as you get older, you start to understand the history and the

• 8:45Speaker 04

  the deepness of this land and the people. And every time, like, I would, I would leave and go away and, you know, travel all around the world, I would always gravitate back home to Hawaii because it is so special and so deep. And I even got married there. I got married on the North Shore and go home every single year. I have never experienced seeing Pele or the Night Marchers, even though, you know, when I was younger and growing up, we would go into these cemeteries and, you know, drink and smoke and wait for the Night Marchers, which, which never showed up. Yeah. A few times in my life, Russia, a few times.

• 9:28Speaker 05

  Something new I learned about my sister.

• 9:30Speaker 04

  You could not, but I could.

• 9:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I also love that that's like the equivalent of going to the cemetery and playing with, you're using a Ouija board, but yours was like going to a cemetery, waiting for the Night Marchers.

• 9:42Speaker 04

  I know, I know. And then we all freaked out and left.

• 9:46Corinne Vien?

  I feel like on the rating, the stupidity of teenagers, I feel like that is probably the highest because the Night Marchers, like, you guys were really brave.

• 9:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pushing some boundaries.

• 9:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, or the opposite, or high.

• 10:01Speaker 05

  Oh, my goodness.

• 10:02Corinne Vien?

  What would you have done if you had actually encountered the Night Marchers?

• 10:05Speaker 04

  I mean, I probably would have passed out, you know.

• 10:10Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 10:11Speaker 04

  I have no idea.

• 10:12Speaker 05

  Yes, I never went looking for the Night Marchers.

• 10:14Speaker 04

  When you're a teenager, you're fearless, right? You just think, oh, whatever, whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. But I absolutely love Pele. I mean, if you could see in my office, and both Russia and I have this beautiful picture that is framed of her, that is right above our head. But there's so many legends, you know, that ground, the Hawaiians and the Hawaiian Islands. And it's, it's a unique and special place.

• 10:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It really is. Okay, well, what other paranormal experiences have you two had? And have you ever had a shared paranormal experience?

• 10:48Speaker 04

  Hmm. I think we want to have a shared paranormal experience.

• 10:54Corinne Vien?

  Should we all have one together right now?

• 10:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everyone, close your eyes. We'll hold hands.

• 11:00Speaker 05

  We've tinkered with it before, though, Yvette. I mean, we have to tell the story. So the one time that we went together to, we call it the Franklin House, but it's known as the Sowden House, where allegedly Elizabeth Short, also known as the Black Dahlia, was murdered. And that home was also the home to our great grandfather, George Hodel. But when we did our first podcast, Root of Evil, we did an episode that ended up on the cutting room floor. And that was the first time Yvette and I had gone to that home together. We'd been separately with our mom.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  I had been there many, many times before with my mom. And the energy in that house is like none other.

• 11:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 11:48Speaker 04

  Especially in the basement. And I've had a couple of experiences where we were all down there. It was my mom, my two uncles.

• 11:55Speaker 05

  Our mom.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  Our mom, excuse me, I always say our mom. And the woman that was living there at the time, you know, was giving us a little tour. And we all went down in the basement. And I literally started to have a panic attack. Never had a panic attack in my life. But I told my mom, I said, Mom, there's something, there's something not right here. And my mom started, I swear to God, she started praying like in a different type of language, like in some type of tongue. I have never heard it before.

• 12:27Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 12:27Speaker 04

  Like blessing us or something. And we stayed for like a few minutes and we went back upstairs and got out of there. But I Never wanted to go back in that house again until

• 12:40Speaker 05

  I made her.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  We were doing Root of Evil and Rasha was like, come on, just do it. Just go in. And I was like, oh my God, I don't want to. But I had my anchor, I had my best friend Melissa, who was actually in LA at the time. And she is of Hawaiian descent and she has just this strong, powerful energy. And I felt safe actually to go in, knowing that she was there. And then, Rasha, you can tell the rest of the story.

• 13:10Speaker 05

  So in Hawaii, we have something called like a sitting ghost. So I don't know if you have ever heard of that, but it's normally it happens when you're sleeping and you can feel someone or something on your chest. There's just this deep, heavy energy.

• 13:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah. Kind of like the old hag or something like that?

• 13:28Speaker 05

  Yes, yes, yes, yes. But we feel this a lot of times in really scary situations. And I felt that as soon as I entered the home. And then we were, you know, going all around and we were being interviewed by Zach Levitt, who was our director and producer and writer on Root of Evil.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  And I was actually okay at the time. I was fine.

• 13:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, you were okay, but I had that heaviness of the sitting ghost on my chest. And so I had a really hard time even speaking.

• 13:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, Yvette, you were fine because the, the energy was all going to Rasha.

• 13:58Speaker 04

  Right, right. This is true. But then.

• 14:02Speaker 05

  It shifted when we got to the basement. And as soon as Yvette walked in, if I remember correctly, she started crying. And the kind of tears where you don't hear anything, you just see it.

• 14:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 05

  And I held her hand and the sitting ghost left me. And I was there to calm her down. And I don't think we lasted in there very long. Did we?

• 14:24Speaker 04

  No, we didn't. No, because Zach saw exactly how I was feeling. And we, we left and went back upstairs and thank God, you know, Melissa was up there. But it's just, you know, you know, when there is that evil presence of energy in a space that you can't explain it, but you just know how, how evil it is. And yeah, I have no, I have no desire to go back. So Rasha, don't ask me again.

• 14:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I feel like you guys did a lot of digging up old wounds and especially related to that case and how it tied to your family that I don't blame you. Which actually, can you, for people who are listening and who may not have heard Root of Evil, which Corinne and I both loved. We were listening to it like when you guys were putting it out. Yeah. Aww. We're OG listeners. We are. Will you just give some context and share with our listeners how you're connected to the Elizabeth Short case?

• 15:24Speaker 05

  So it all started with our mom. Our mom was born in 1951 under mysterious circumstances. She was born in San Francisco, California. And then she was given up for adoption to an African American family because her birth certificate said that her father was, it didn't say African American at the time because it was 1951.

• 15:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Said black.

• 15:48Speaker 05

  Said negro.

• 15:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Negro, yeah.

• 15:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, I feel weird saying that, but yeah, but that's exactly what it said on the birth certificate. And our biological grandmother was only 15 when she gave birth to her. But mom was given away and was raised in Reno, Nevada. And her whole life, she was told that she was adopted and that she was biracial. And so to make a long story short.

• 16:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's not, it's not possible.

• 16:18Speaker 05

  I know, it's gonna still be really long, I'm so sorry. And Yvette can jump in anytime.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  From the time, I'll just say from the time she was eight years old, she knew that she had a story to tell because obviously she was this little white child, you know, with blue vibrant eyes who was living with a black family. It just didn't quite seem right. And she was having issues on both sides, you know, hatred, I should say, racism on both ends of the spectrum. She didn't fit in because she was white, you know, and she didn't fit in because she was black. But mom had this incredible sense of knowing that there was something bigger to this picture than she could even possibly imagine.

• 17:05Speaker 04

  And she started searching for her real mother and she eventually found her when she was probably 21 and that's or 20, yeah, 21 is when she found her around 21, 22. And then ended up going to Hawaii when she was 25, 24, 25, 26. We flew to Hawaii and that's where she met her real mother, Tamar Hodel. And that's when Tamar told her the whole story that she had lied, you know, and said that her father was Negro. But in fact, he was not. He was some Italian playboy who took advantage of her. And that her grandfather was the prime suspect in the Black Dahlia murder.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  So mom's world was completely shattered in that instance.

• 17:55Speaker 05

  Right. Her whole life, she grew up believing something to realize is not true. Yeah.

• 18:01Speaker 04

  Yeah. And then, you know, she knew, like I said, she knew that she had a story to tell. So for many, many years, like she just pounded the pavement, you know, trying to get someone to buy this story. It was called Pretty Hattie's Baby starring, you know, Alfred Woodard and Tess Harper. And that never took off. And then she finally met the one, the only Patty Jenkins.

• 18:26Speaker 05

  Patty Jenkins.

• 18:27Speaker 04

  And that's how I Am the Night came to be.

• 18:30Speaker 05

  But I do have to say, a part that Yvette always leaves out, because I know she always felt uncomfortable saying it, is that day that she met Tamar on the beach on the island of Oahu in Hawaii. Tamar, her biological mother, told our mom. That there was incest as well. So it could have been an Italian playboy as her father, or it could have also been her grandfather. So there was that piece in my whole life. I always believed that George Hodel was mom's biological father and biological grandfather. But Yvette, you never did, right?

• 19:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I absolutely did not believe it. I mean, obviously, you don't want to believe it.

• 19:15Speaker 05

  Right. Right, yeah.

• 19:15Speaker 04

  And mom, after that, you know, she never put any energy on trying to find her biological father. For good reasons, I'm sure she was, you know, deathly afraid of what she might find out. But in my heart of hearts, just knowing my mom's spirit so well, I just, I couldn't phantom that could be true, you know? Until, you know, she was just about to pass away and she did say that, you know, she believed that George was her father. And that just like nearly like.

• 19:52Speaker 05

  Two days before she died, she said that?

• 19:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, crushed my soul.

• 19:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:57Speaker 04

  But years later, we found out that he definitely was not her biological father.

• 20:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, thank you, 23andMe.

• 20:05Speaker 04

  And I could just hear the heavens opening up.

• 20:08Speaker 05

  There you go, that's good. Yeah, and of course, it was devastating when we lost our mom. We lost her. She was very young. She was diagnosed at the age of 65 with breast cancer. And we moved her from Honolulu to just a couple of blocks away from me and my wife. And Yvette was flying in every few weeks. And we got our mom, well, we thought we got her through breast cancer over a year and a half. But unfortunately, it metastasized. And 11 days before she died, she signed that deal with Patty Jenkins. And her husband, Sam Sheridan, who was the showrunner and worked with mom for the whole year that she was sick with breast cancer on the pilot of I Am The Night. Wow.

• 20:52Speaker 05

  And we were on set just six weeks after mom died with Patty and Chris Pine and Sam Sheridan and India Isley. And fast forward to, you know, a few months into filming, because we were there majority of, of the filming. We were very fortunate to be invited and to be a part of that experience. They're like, hey, girls, we know your mom left hours and hours and hours of cassette tapes that she recorded from the time she was a young woman. You know, do you think you could do a companion podcast to go with I Am The Night? And we're like, Like, what's a podcast?

• 21:30Speaker 05

  We're like, sure. Yeah. Yeah, of course. And they brought in Zach Levitt from then Cadence 13, which is now Odyssey. And they asked us to do Root of Evil, The True Story of the Hodel Family and the Black Dahlia. And they asked our entire Entire family. Family. So the entire living side of the Hodel family was also a part of it. Wow. Which was pretty magical and heartbreaking at the same time, because a lot of, a lot of deep, dark things came out of that. And, you know, our connection to Elizabeth Short is that George Hodel, our great grandfather, was the prime suspect in her murder.

• 22:16Speaker 05

  Right. That was always something that mom had to bear across. She had to bear and she always wanted to advocate for Elizabeth. Yeah. And we always want to do that as well. And the truth of the matter is, like, even if we do believe that George truly did it, We don't have any

• 22:33Speaker 04

  Solid evidence.

• 22:34Speaker 05

  True, concrete evidence. It's all circumstantial.

• 22:38Corinne Vien?

  Right, right.

• 22:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:39Speaker 05

  And we would love one day for someone to come out and be like, nope, it wasn't George. And we'll be like, oh, we were JK, just kidding.

• 22:47Corinne Vien?

  Scratch that.

• 22:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, but regardless, you know, he did awful, awful, awful things to

• 22:53Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 22:53Speaker 05

  our family. And it was an incredible heartbreaking and surreal experience.

• 23:01Speaker 04

  It was many things in it. I would have to say that it was very cathartic, you know, in the end, to have all the family together, you know, during that time was pretty special, was very special.

• 23:15Corinne Vien?

  Which I feel like is so important to have in a situation that you guys had, or I guess like presently are, are in, from a supernatural perspective too. And even, I'm sure you guys heard about it constantly, growing up in Hawaii, this idea of like loved ones, of ancestors, of spirit guides, of people coming in. And so you want to think of all of your family who came before you as these like pure beings, as these people who can come back and like

• 23:41Speaker 05

  Protect you and guide you.

• 23:43Corinne Vien?

  Right. And like here you guys are uncovering the opposite within your, or potentially the opposite within your bloodline. So I do think it's really beautiful that everyone did get to come together and have that good energy that you, you hope to have throughout your family, just excluding that one person.

• 24:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Talk about also like healing ancestral like trauma and generational trauma.

• 24:08Speaker 05

  Breaking the cycle. That was broken with our mom.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:12Speaker 05

  Our mom was the most beautiful being. She was just a bright shining light.

• 24:16Speaker 04

  She truly was because despite, you know, all the things that she had gone through, all the secret and all the lies, she still rose above all of it, you know? And, and when I say that supernatural is in our DNA, it truly started with her. Because when, when she was young and living in Reno, Nevada, and experiencing, you know, all these ups and downs, she had guides that would come to her. She had her big mama who had passed away, who would show up and, you know, give her signs to get out of the house, or do this, or do that. So she always experienced the paranormal.

• 24:57Corinne Vien?

  Wait, what do you mean get out of the house?

• 24:59Speaker 04

  Well, there was a time when she was young and she was living with her mother, her adopted mother, Jimmy Lee. Jimmy Lee, Jimmy Lee was an amazing human being, but she had a, you know, she had a drinking problem. So when someone is an alcoholic, you know, there, there's an ugly side to them.

• 25:16Speaker 05

  Right.

• 25:16Speaker 04

  And so there was physical abuse. And so there was one time where they got into a big fight and that night she had a vision that her big mama came to her and told her that it is time for you to leave this house.

• 25:32Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  And she ultimately did. She, she got out of the house when she was 14. She was with my dad, you know, pregnant with me at 15, had me on her 16th, right after she turned 16 on August 1st. So, yeah, and all through her life, she's had, you know, different visions like that.

• 25:50Speaker 05

  And she's always believed in the supernatural.

• 25:52Speaker 04

  Always, always. Guardian angels like carried her throughout her entire life, for sure.

• 25:58Corinne Vien?

  Well, it's so incredible that she, that she's like allowing them to throughout her life, too, right? Like that she had that sign and that she took it.

• 26:08Speaker 05

  Because so many people do shut it out or like have influences in their life that tell, that convince them to shut it out.

• 26:15Corinne Vien?

  Or you ask for a sign and then the sign comes and you're like, well, was that really a sign?

• 26:20Speaker 05

  That's me.

• 26:21Corinne Vien?

  I'm talking about Sabrina here. It takes 17 signs to accept it as a sign.

• 26:27Speaker 05

  Right. No, she was the opposite. She thought everything was a sign or a symbol. Like you bet and I would roll our eyes at her at times. We're like, okay, mom, you know, but she truly believed in all of that. She believed in crystals and tarot readings and psychic mediums.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  Right. But she also had a very deep faith in God as well. You know, she was raised in the church. So she had the best of both worlds, you know? Nothing was an extreme, you know, one or the other. She like had the perfect mold of faith and belief and, and the supernatural all in one. And again, that carried her through. She was truly beyond her time. And I've said that many, many times. She was one of a kind. She just, she had a second sense.

• 27:11Corinne Vien?

  Well, it's amazing too, because it sounds like she got double practice, right? Because if she grew up in religion and then she was also interested in all of those other things. It's just like, again, more practice and believing in things and energies outside of yourself.

• 27:23Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenuvo in a couple of weeks.

• 27:31Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 27:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 29:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So how much of that has been passed down to you two? And like, do you guys believe in crystals? And what type of spiritual practice do you hold?

• 29:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do I believe in crystals?

• 29:29Speaker 04

  As I have my rose quartz.

• 29:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 29:31Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. I have crystals all over the house. I mean, you know, obviously, because, you know, we were so incredibly close to our mom. So all of that has resided within us in one way, shape or form. So absolutely. I mean, I believe in guardian angels. I believe in crystals. I do have a deep faith in in God as well. So I feel like I'm the mix of both of her because mom, she was the type of person who was willing to open her mind to learn other things, you know?

• 30:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  And and I feel like I'm exactly the same way.

• 30:06Speaker 05

  And by the time I came along 11 years later, mom wasn't really into organized religion.

• 30:12Speaker 04

  You always have to put that in 11 years later.

• 30:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love listening to you two because you're such sisters, like the way that you you have little comments between you two. It's so fun.

• 30:25Speaker 05

  That's how you know you have true sisters.

• 30:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:29Speaker 05

  But I think truly by the time that I did come along that mom just wasn't into organized religion. She always said God is love. She always said that. So I wasn't raised in any type of church whatsoever. But

• 30:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You were raised in the church of love.

• 30:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's it. Amen to that.

• 30:46Speaker 05

  So I consider myself spiritual. I have not a bad relationship with organized religion, but I think also, you know, not realizing that I was gay until I was 30 years old. And, you know, my father was incredibly homophobic because he was raised devout Catholic and then he denounced Catholicism. But I think for me, I just never really felt accepted, but I always felt accepted by our mom. And I always felt like her love overshadowed anything else.

• 31:19Speaker 05

  And I loved collecting crystals and making wishes. And I remember her like giving me little crystals and I'd put them in my pillow. And she would tell me to, you know, make wishes at night so that I could dream. And then my wishes would come true. I mean, this is so sweet.

• 31:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm just gonna say this and like, I don't think I'm necessarily like a psychic or a medium, but the way that you two are just talking about your mom, like I feel that love and presence around us. Like I just, and it's a different energy than what we had before we were recording with you two. You know, I just feel like her presence and just the way that you remember her and talk about her is so palpable.

• 32:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, you guys carry her with you.

• 32:01Speaker 05

  Yeah. For sure.

• 32:02Corinne Vien?

  Thank you both.

• 32:03Speaker 04

  We absolutely do. Thank you. That is the highest compliment possible because, you know, in every aspect of our life, she is with us, you know? We are carrying on her legacy, her torch of what she instilled in us to be strong women today, but different, you know, obviously.

• 32:20Corinne Vien?

  Right, right.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  She was a force to be reckoned with for sure, you know? And.

• 32:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like truly feel the love.

• 32:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, Sabrina's crying.

• 32:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm like crying.

• 32:29Corinne Vien?

  You're just here because the video's not zoomed in, but Sabrina's too.

• 32:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I really feel the love. It's beautiful.

• 32:36Speaker 05

  Oh, Sabrina.

• 32:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you for sharing her with us.

• 32:40Corinne Vien?

  That's so special.

• 32:41Speaker 05

  Of course. And I think honestly, that's part of what made Root of Evil so successful is our mom's voice was all throughout it.

• 32:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 32:50Speaker 05

  And she anchored us and she still anchors us. And it's so funny, we were just talking about this story yesterday with the CEO of AudioChuck. It was just like a meeting greet because he's, he's brand new to the company. And we were saying that right after mom died, we hired a psychic medium.

• 33:09Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 33:09Speaker 05

  And it was virtual. And we both asked her, because she said after she gave us, she gave us a lot of things and she said a lot of things that were very affirming and very validating. So we knew that mom was there. And she's like, do you have any questions for her? And you're like, is true crime podcasting what we're really supposed to be doing, Mom? Is this living out your legacy? Because she was just this epitome of sunshine and kindness. You know, she just so happened to be connected to one of the most infamous unsolved murders in American history.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  But couldn't watch anything to do with true crime, like nothing.

• 33:48Speaker 05

  Me either. I'm a Disney Harry Potter girl.

• 33:51Speaker 04

  So I'm like, are, is this really what you want us to do, Mom?

• 33:54Speaker 05

  Are you sure?

• 33:55Speaker 04

  Please, please come through and tell us.

• 33:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. And the psychic said, that Mom said that this is just a jumping off point. They're literally rocket ships about to take off in your life.

• 34:10Corinne Vien?

  And look at you.

• 34:10Speaker 05

  Like facing evil was just happening and we, we wanted to change the genre of true crime. We wanted to make it more.

• 34:19Speaker 04

  Empathetic, just.

• 34:21Speaker 05

  Ethical, like you guys do ethical true crime. You come from a place of heart and aloha, but we just didn't feel quite right in this space.

• 34:30Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 34:31Speaker 05

  And so eventually when we connected with Audio Chuck and Pave Studios and got to do So Supernatural, and they asked us, they're like, hey, do the girls like anything supernatural? We're like, that's what Mom wants us to do.

• 34:43Corinne Vien?

  Of course. What a natural pivot.

• 34:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:46Speaker 05

  And it's true crime adjacent because of some of the stories that we delve into.

• 34:51Corinne Vien?

  Right. Yeah. I mean, for, for ghosts to stay here and haunt places, oftentimes there are these big.

• 34:57Speaker 05

  Tragic events.

• 34:58Corinne Vien?

  Tragic events.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 34:59Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 35:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 35:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I will also say, like, the, the way that you just mentioned, like, your mom was so, like, happy and love and like, every time we're, we talk to you, you just are so happy, so smiley and.

• 35:13Corinne Vien?

  I know, I texted you earlier. I was like, are we ready for our girly pop energy?

• 35:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 35:19Speaker 04

  I truly feel that all four of us are kindred spirits. You know, just the connection that you two have and the respect that you two have for one another, even though you're not sisters, you are sisters. And that transcends in what you do as well. So right back at you both.

• 35:36Corinne Vien?

  Thank you. That's very nice. Okay, let's take our love circle somewhere a little bit darker.

• 35:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let's go to the dark.

• 35:42Corinne Vien?

  We all like investigations. We all like clues. We all like digging up evidence. And so Sabrina and I have prepared some from our listeners and some that were just found on the internet, some supposed evidence of the paranormal, which we're going to present to you. And we can decide, which I think we're all going to decide that it's definitely evidence of the paranormal.

• 36:05Corinne Vien?

  We can decide or talk through what we think of all of them.

• 36:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. And so we have some like photos and videos and EVPs. So we've got a lot. We've got a lot and kind of want to do like a little game of, I think you've named it. What did you name it?

• 36:20Corinne Vien?

  I did. I was feeling creative this morning at 4:00 a.m. after putting my child down for like the 10th time in the night.

• 36:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Crin wrote, "This is the new TGOG segment that we're going to unveil here first, where we break down the footage, the photos, the sounds and ask ourselves, is it proof? Were these spirits?" You gotta say this.

• 36:41Corinne Vien?

  Wait, what did I name it again? I can't even remember.

• 36:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What did I name it at 4:00 a.m.?

• 36:45Corinne Vien?

  I was so clever. Caught dead handed.

• 36:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Caught dead handed.

• 36:49Speaker 04

  I love that. That's good.

• 36:50Corinne Vien?

  Caught dead handed. This is our new segment that we're going to unveil.

• 36:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Unveil with you, Rasha and Yvette.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  We are honored. Let's do it.

• 36:59Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so our first bit of evidence was sent in by one of our listeners, Claire. She writes, "Hey friends, my name is Claire, but I will be telling this story on behalf of my friend. When she told me this and she showed me the footage, I asked if I could send it into your podcast and she said yes. This experience scared the crap out of her and just seeing the footage makes me feel sick and uneasy. This story is short. It's about my friend who I will call Maddie." And at the time, she lived in an apartment with her parents that had just been built by her parents, and they were going to rent this place out to other people. Maddie has always seen ghosts and just had weird shit following her around since she was a teenager. She told me about several of her experiences in the past where she would see a sleep paralysis demon or just have really weird stuff happen around her all the time.

• 37:43Corinne Vien?

  But this experience completely changed everything. She now stays away from anything spooky. She does not like to talk about the paranormal.

• 37:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So she won't listen to this?

• 37:53Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, she's mad he's not tuning in.

• 37:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 37:56Corinne Vien?

  This night, she was in that apartment that her parents had been staying in and renovating. But her parents were out of town, so this night she was home alone. She started hearing things on the other side of the door, as shown in the video, and started to record. And that is when she spotted what she can only describe as a demon.

• 38:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're gonna show the video.

• 38:16Speaker 04

  Ah!

• 38:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Dun dun dun.

• 38:17Speaker 04

  Uh oh. Oh. Oh my god, that's so creepy.

• 38:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it literally turns the light on and off.

• 38:22Corinne Vien?

  And it's peering around. It turns the light off when it realizes, I think, that it's being filmed.

• 38:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my god, that is so freaky.

• 38:31Speaker 04

  That's wild.

• 38:32Corinne Vien?

  Rasha, you said you're a Harry Potter fan. Does this not look like Dobby's ear to you?

• 38:36Speaker 07

  Oh my god, it totally does.

• 38:40Speaker 04

  He's a demon elf.

• 38:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it's tall, too, like whatever this is.

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 38:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, because the height is above the chair in the middle of the lamp. Ooh.

• 38:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That gives me chicken skin.

• 38:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh, it's so creepy. And it's like, there's not a ton of space to hide in that area, but it's perfectly behind that one, I don't even know what it is, if it's like a construction curtain or what.

• 39:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it feels like it wanted her to see it. Like, turning the light on-

• 39:07Speaker 04

  Yes, of course.

• 39:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And off is a very, very strategic, malevolent choice.

• 39:13Speaker 04

  I would have freaked. I would have, yeah.

• 39:16Corinne Vien?

  Do you think that you would have been able to film it or just be paralyzed in fear?

• 39:21Speaker 07

  I think I would have been paralyzed in fear.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, same, same.

• 39:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What about you guys?

• 39:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You would film it, wouldn't you?

• 39:29Corinne Vien?

  You know, I don't know, because things have changed in me in the past like a couple of years. I used to be so chicken, and now it's like, yeah, like now if something paranormal happens and I'm just like, "Stop," and like, "Move on."

• 39:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 39:42Speaker 04

  Oh my goodness.

• 39:42Corinne Vien?

  So maybe now I would, but if I were answering this question a year ago, I definitely would have been way too scared. Now I would probably approach it and be like, "You gotta go."

• 39:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You gotta go.

• 39:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See, my instinct, I think, like, in a lot of fight or flight situations is freeze. So there is part of me that thinks that I would freeze and then like slowly be like reaching for my phone and film it.

• 40:07Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 40:07Speaker 05

  Like, I need to record this.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's hard to say, right? Because we can say, like, my initial reaction is be like, oh, hell, no. Like, I'd just be terrified. But then, if you're right there in it, and you are in that fight or flight, like, you don't know how you're gonna react, you know?

• 40:27Corinne Vien?

  Totally.

• 40:27Speaker 04

  Especially like with you, Corinne, like, being a mom now, you're like, come on, I'mma take you on.

• 40:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mama bear.

• 40:34Corinne Vien?

  I had enough demons, I'm fighting every single day. I don't need another one.

• 40:39Speaker 05

  That is definite proof of the paranormal.

• 40:42Corinne Vien?

  I mean, yeah, like, what else could that possibly be?

• 40:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. I mean, I think this whole segment is, yes, this is proof.

• 40:50Corinne Vien?

  I named it inappropriately. It should just be, I don't even remember what I named it again.

• 40:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Caught dead-handed.

• 40:58Corinne Vien?

  It's caught dead-handed. They're just caught dead-handed. Oh, my god, this is proof that I'm a new mom. My brain doesn't work. I have zero words. Rasha, does it ever turn itself around? Do you ever get your memory back?

• 41:10Speaker 05

  Does your brain ever return to its full capacity? My pregnancy was wicked. Like, I had preeclampsia and was on bedrest at seven months. And I think I was okay after she was born. Like, I felt like it kind of returned pretty quickly. But I definitely have my, obviously, blonde moments.

• 41:32Speaker 05

  You'll be fine, Corinne. It'll be back.

• 41:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so this next one I found on Reddit, and it's an EVP. So I'm gonna play it, and I kind of want to hear what everyone thinks they hear.

• 41:48Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so you're not gonna tell us what people on the internet think it is yet?

• 41:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 41:51Corinne Vien?

  So that we can make our own judgments?

• 41:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, so just as a context, this was posted seven months ago on Reddit. And the user RGK1012 said, "Caught an EVP while trying to record a video of a storm. The first thing you hear is me saying, 'Back Rutherford,' which is my cat's name, followed by the EVP. It was very late at night. I was alone with just my cat, trying to catch a video of the lightning. The neighbors had just moved out. I didn't hear anything audibly in real time, only when watching it back." Oh, only when watching it back.

• 42:22Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 42:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let me put both of my headphones on for this one. Okay.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I heard something.

• 42:40Speaker 04

  I did too, but I can't. One more time.

• 42:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I heard Rutherford.

• 42:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then it almost sounds like Gollum.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  Take it? Is it saying, "Take it"?

• 43:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I hear the word "back" at first. Well, cause so he says that he says "back Rutherford" to his cat. Oh, he says "back Rutherford"? Okay, wait. Yeah. But then you hear something creepy after that.

• 43:11Speaker 04

  Something after that. It sounds like it says "take it" or something. Is that?

• 43:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Wait, one more time.

• 43:15Speaker 04

  One more time. One more time.

• 43:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I hear "back Rutherford".

• 43:30Speaker 04

  I hear that.

• 43:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Rutherford. And then it sounds like "taken".

• 43:34Speaker 04

  "Take it, David" or some, I don't know.

• 43:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, not "Dear David". Not "Dear David". It does sound like that. Yeah, like a "take it". Like, "take the picture" or "take the video" or...

• 43:44Speaker 04

  "Take it".

• 43:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I, when I first heard it, I thought it said "dickhead".

• 43:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And maybe. I don't know. It's creepy. Yeah, it's like little and "uh".

• 43:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which makes me wonder, like, is it the cat?

• 44:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, is the cat speaking?

• 44:02Speaker 04

  But what are people saying that they think they're hearing?

• 44:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good question. Let's see. Some people heard "Timmy".

• 44:08Speaker 04

  Ah, so it is a T.

• 44:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Some person said they listened to it reversed and it sounded like a dog.

• 44:15Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 44:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh. Someone else thought that they heard "kitty" after saying "back Rutherford".

• 44:21Speaker 04

  Huh.

• 44:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Which I guess would make sense.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But like a spirit being like, "kitty, ditty".

• 44:27Speaker 04

  And cats can normally see spirits, right?

• 44:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Oh, wait. Someone else said, "I literally hear dick. I'm not making a joke, is what I heard."

• 44:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like I heard like dickhead.

• 44:36Speaker 05

  Yep, that goes with your dickhead.

• 44:39Corinne Vien?

  It does. Okay. Unfortunately, the spirit wasn't able to join us today to confirm.

• 44:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To tell us exactly.

• 44:46Corinne Vien?

  It is freaky, though, like when you find something that you weren't expecting to find when you're like relooking at stuff. We actually had, I wish we had pulled it to show you guys, but Sabrina and I did, we did like one big tour, but then we've done a few like small, like couple of shows here and there, like live shows. And a few years ago, we were going through some of the EVPs that people had like marked in our podcast. And we realized that like two or three years apart, the same man's voice is in EVPs. Like one time it said like hello, and then another, another time it said something else, but it is not someone that we recognize at all. We had both moved apartments multiple times.

• 45:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's like a male's voice.

• 45:29Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it sounds like a man, maybe in his like late twenties or early thirties.

• 45:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we joke that we have a spirit named Sven haunting our podcast. So we just kind of been, we're like, okay, maybe it's Sven.

• 45:40Speaker 05

  He's just maybe it's Sven.

• 45:42Corinne Vien?

  We have had like different mediums and people say like, oh yeah, there is a man haunting your podcast. And his name is not Sven, but he is dawning that name proudly and enjoys the attention.

• 45:56Speaker 05

  And you don't hear it when you're recording, right?

• 45:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, no.

• 45:59Speaker 05

  It's just the listeners that hear it. It's always after.

• 46:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I think that's the thing with audio in general, like there's probably countless EVPs in podcasts, but people are probably not listening to a true crime podcast for EVPs or

• 46:14Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 46:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A self-help podcast for EVPs.

• 46:19Corinne Vien?

  It's also strange though, because it's like we used to edit back then and now we have an editor and stuff. And so like audio is cleaned and audio is like, we usually try to find things that are like strange and eliminate them. So it is strange when EVPs still make their way through and that we like, even in, in post, don't notice it.

• 46:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 46:39Speaker 05

  Wow, that's a trip.

• 46:40Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I have a ghost photo now to share with you guys.

• 46:43Speaker 05

  Oh, okay.

• 46:44Corinne Vien?

  This was sent in by one of our listeners. They write, this story is from my friend Ashley, who okayed me to tell the story. This happened when she was in high school, probably around 2013 to 2014. She lived in a duplex, which she thought was haunted and got uneasy feelings in the home. Her and her friend were sending selfies back and forth, her friend being the first to send one. And when it came time for Ashley to send a picture, she snapped a selfie and went on with her time. Her friend later responded to her selfie, saying, who's that behind you? Confused, Ashley looked back at the image and was immediately freaked out. There was a full body apparition behind her, sitting on the couch, watching her.

• 47:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 47:25Corinne Vien?

  And this was sent by Jessica.

• 47:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is such a creepy photo. Ready?

• 47:30Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 47:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sharing it now. Shut up.

• 47:34Speaker 05

  What?

• 47:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, did it stop sharing? Oh, my God, that's.

• 47:38Corinne Vien?

  That's creepy.

• 47:40Speaker 05

  That's so funny. It only went on there for a second and then went away.

• 47:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It doesn't want us to see it? Oh, my goodness.

• 47:47Speaker 05

  It it looked real to me. Oh, no.

• 47:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah. It looks like Voldemort.

• 47:54Speaker 05

  It looks like Voldemort from the first.

• 47:55Corinne Vien?

  Skeleton. It's like a skeleton face, like almost like a mask. I think of in the movie The Strangers, one of the masks that the.

• 48:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:04Corinne Vien?

  Killers wears.

• 48:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The face almost looks like it's melting.

• 48:08Corinne Vien?

  It does. And do you see like the hand, the arm looks bent and it looks like there's a hand like.

• 48:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 48:14Corinne Vien?

  They're just kind of clasping their hands up here. Or one hand is up here. Yeah, there's limbs, there's a face, there's eye, nose, mouth.

• 48:22Speaker 05

  So creepy. It looks like a skeleton to me.

• 48:24Corinne Vien?

  Very creepy.

• 48:25Speaker 05

  Total proof.

• 48:26Corinne Vien?

  Total proof.

• 48:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Total proof.

• 48:27Corinne Vien?

  Caught dead handed. I remembered it this time.

• 48:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's also so interesting when people do catch photos of spirits like like we had an experience in New Orleans. It's our claim to fame. We.

• 48:40Corinne Vien?

  The only time we've ever been in a tabloid.

• 48:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 48:43Speaker 05

  Oh, I've been in a tabloid, too. Let's hear your story.

• 48:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, what was your quote? And then I'll tell the story.

• 48:50Corinne Vien?

  So I find out we were in the tabloid because at the time I worked in HR and the director of HR sent me, she must have had like a Google alert on all the employees or something. And she sent me this article because I was quoted as saying, yep, that's definitely a penis.

• 49:07Corinne Vien?

  Corinne Vienn of Two Girls One Ghost said, "Yep, that's definitely a penis."

• 49:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So yeah, we were in New Orleans and we were at Lafitte's blacksmith shop and Corinne and my friend Scout were sitting in front of the fireplace where people, when they take photos, people have caught a face that is said to be Lafitte, John Lafitte's face, like spirit form.

• 49:30Corinne Vien?

  And it's like frequent. People say like one in every, you know, 200 photos or something will have something that looks like a face.

• 49:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But we caught something phallic.

• 49:40Corinne Vien?

  It's like a glowing little blue penis.

• 49:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 49:44Corinne Vien?

  Something that looks like a penis.

• 49:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let me see if I have, actually, I'll pull up the tabloid.

• 49:50Corinne Vien?

  Sure, show the lesbian a penis. Great.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  Show us that little blue penis, please.

• 49:57Corinne Vien?

  It's interesting.

• 49:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally, the Daily Star, "Ghost penis caught on camera by stunned paranormal fans inside haunted bar." There it is.

• 50:05Corinne Vien?

  Oh, there it is.

• 50:06Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, that's definitely a blue penis.

• 50:11Speaker 04

  That is funny.

• 50:12Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 50:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But my point being like, it's, so I took two pictures, like, within the same 10 seconds. And

• 50:22Speaker 05

  And it's not in the other one?

• 50:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One photo has nothing and the next does. And it's like, how?

• 50:27Corinne Vien?

  Well, and oddly, all of the photos you were taking were live because we were like, oh, we're gonna hold them down, see if we can capture anything like moving or whatever. All of them were live. The only one in the whole batch that wasn't live was this one, the one where there was something.

• 50:40Speaker 05

  That's definitely a spirit, for sure.

• 50:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. But like, why then? And was the entity there the whole time, but just then, in that moment, like my camera was able to capture it? Or did it choose to make itself visible to us?

• 50:57Speaker 04

  I think it chose. I think it chose because why wouldn't it get in any of the other ones you were taking, right? I think it specifically chose, for sure.

• 51:05Corinne Vien?

  Well, I wish we had a choice to not see that, but.

• 51:08Speaker 05

  I can never unsee it.

• 51:10Speaker 04

  Well, at least it was blue.

• 51:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's the only type of like flashing I want.

• 51:15Corinne Vien?

  A paranormal flashing.

• 51:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Caught dead handed.

• 51:21Speaker 05

  You need to trademark that and put it on a shirt.

• 51:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so good. I'm sure it exists somewhere else. It's just, it's a pun. I love it. I love a pun. Okay, so the last one we have is another video from a listener. And it's like a Ring camera situation. Oh. And the only context is, hi ladies, the Ring camera captured this at 1:30 in the morning outside of our house in Pennsylvania. That's it.

• 51:46Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 51:48Speaker 04

  Oh. Oh, that's definitely a spirit.

• 51:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Right? It looks like a full- For sure. Walking.

• 51:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that wild? Oh, that gives me chicken skin. That's the creepiest one I've seen out of everything.

• 52:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that one just makes me, I mean, brings up the whole conversation of timelines and like, what is time and is this- What are spirits? Are they, are they actually like deceased people in the present timeline? Or are we seeing some sort of like glitch in the- Right. Matrix, a different timeline. Is this just like a person walking through the yard in a different timeline? Wow, that's something to think about.

• 52:27Speaker 04

  There's so many different ways to look at it, right? Again, we can go back to what happened on the land, like what happened on that property? Is there an entity or a spirit that is, you know, still present there for some reason or another? Or, like you said, are we in the matrix? Like, you know, are we living in two different or three different timelines? Who's to say?

• 52:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or four or five.

• 52:48Speaker 04

  Or four or five, right.

• 52:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Or the multiverse. Everything, everywhere, all at once. Stay at the multiverse. Exactly. Are we a regular human Loki or are we crocodile Loki in this life? Oh my goodness, I want to be crocodile Loki.

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• 54:05Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, we do have one more game. And this is gonna be our palate cleanser to come off of.

• 54:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 54:12Corinne Vien?

  Cause I'm sure like people who are watching on YouTube too. And listen or watch at night are gonna be like, oh my God, what the fuck?

• 54:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Don't leave us with this.

• 54:20Corinne Vien?

  Why did you do this?

• 54:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, okay, well, first have YouTube captured any what you would call evidence? Have you caught any spirits dead handed in any way?

• 54:30Speaker 05

  Well, I've always joked since our mom died in 2017 that I wanted to see her ghost or have her haunt us, happily haunt us. And I've been joking about this for a long time. And I think it was about four nights ago. And normally I suffer from really, really bad nightmares. And four nights ago, I had a dream where I saw her mom, but she was in the form of a spirit. Like she was kinda like that blue glassy, almost like you could see through her. But she looked so stunningly beautiful. And you know, cancer kinda took that away from her in the end, even though she still was really pretty. But it like, no sign of cancer or anything.

• 55:14Speaker 05

  And I was telling you about this the other day when, you know, the morning, I didn't remember it until she was telling me about a dream she had. And then I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, I have to tell you, I dreamt about mom last night. And I asked this spirit, which I knew was my mom, I said, can I hug you? And I can't remember if she said yes or she nodded. And I hugged her and I felt the hug.

• 55:39Speaker 05

  Like I could physically feel it. And that's the first time, and I've dreamt about her many, many, many times. Normally it's sadly, it's her corpse. And she's like, I'm not dead. And I'm like, you have to stop coming to me in corpse form.

• 55:52Speaker 05

  It's freaking me out. Because we cremated you, so what is going on? But yeah, I felt the hug and like I could feel it in my dream and in my body. And that's the first time that's ever happened to me.

• 56:06Corinne Vien?

  That was a dream visitation, then it doesn't really feel like a dream at all. And she hugged me. We've heard before, like, if you can feel something, or like if you can look down and see your own toes, if you're consciously thinking in your own dream, oh, my God, I can't believe this is happening.

• 56:21Speaker 05

  That, that's exactly how I was feeling.

• 56:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's not a dream. It's, it's you in this like astral plane space that looks like a dream to give you access or to give

• 56:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:33Corinne Vien?

  spirits access to you in a space that won't scare you. Now I'm crying.

• 56:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I also think when you're sleeping, you just are able to be a little bit more in a, in a, wow.

• 56:44Corinne Vien?

  Release your inhibitions.

• 56:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can release your inhibitions. That's the only way you can say the word.

• 56:50Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I love that. Oh, my God, it makes my heart happy. You gotta sing it if you can't say it. But yeah, that's so beautiful. Yeah.

• 56:58Speaker 04

  I think for me, like I've, there's so many times, you know, after mom passed, I would, I was in the shower and I would always write on the, the glass door. I'd always say, I love you, mom. I miss you. And I would wait like for the steam to, you know, take it away or for her to write something. Till this day, that still hasn't happened. I still do that. Um, waiting and I know one day it will happen. I do believe it. But there was a time, again, dreaming, sleeping, and I was going through some stuff. And as a kid, you know, whenever I would work out my problems, I would just go to sleep. My mom always used to say, that's why you look so young, because you slept half of your life away.

• 57:39Speaker 04

  When I was sleeping and having some issues, I felt my mom saying, it's okay, it's okay. And I could feel the touch of her hand rubbing, you know, across my forehead.

• 57:52Corinne Vien?

  That's so sweet.

• 57:54Speaker 04

  That was the, the very first time that I ever felt that. That was a while ago. I think I told you about that, Russia, a long time ago.

• 57:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I remember.

• 58:00Speaker 04

  But that's the only time that I actually felt that, you know, like that physical touch.

• 58:06Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 58:07Speaker 05

  And I know you two have had multiple.

• 58:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah, but nothing quite like the ghost penis.

• 58:16Corinne Vien?

  That one was unique. That will probably never happen again.

• 58:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't, if we catch another ghost penis, I will be, I don't know.

• 58:23Corinne Vien?

  There's a problem. Then, then somebody needs to give us, Travel Channel needs to give us a show, or maybe HBO, so that we can show the penises.

• 58:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Chasing ghost penis.

• 58:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh, to be HBO Max. Phantom flashers.

• 58:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're good. So witty. But yeah, let's do our palate cleanser.

• 58:41Corinne Vien?

  The palate cleanser.

• 58:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Actually, you gave a witty name to this, too. What did you call it?

• 58:45Corinne Vien?

  Because my brain's on at 3 a.m., but not, not many other times.

• 58:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, it's would you rather paranormal versus mundane inconveniences? Okay, so do you want to do one for Rasha and I'll do one for Yvette? And then we'll go back and forth?

• 58:56Corinne Vien?

  Okay, we're gonna do like a little bit of a rapid fire. These are gonna be would you rathers, and one of them's gonna be like a, would you rather have the option to choose this paranormal thing? Or this other thing that's not paranormal, but might be a little bit annoying? Okay, okay, okay. Rasha, would you rather have a haunted music box that only plays Baby Shark?

• 59:16Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 59:18Corinne Vien?

  Or every stranger you ever meet, call you mommy?

• 59:21Speaker 05

  Oh my god, that is so hard. Um, I'd want every stranger to call me mommy, because I could not get Baby Shark out of my head for years.

• 59:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Even just hearing Baby Shark makes it go off.

• 59:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god, no one hum it, no one hum it.

• 59:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right, Yvette, would you rather have a doppelganger that only mimics your most embarrassing moments? Or use a phone that only makes calls on speaker?

• 59:47Speaker 04

  Um, I would have a doppelganger who always, you know, mimics my most embarrassing moments, because I am one to laugh. I love to laugh, so I'm fine with that.

• 59:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right, well, what's an embarrassing moment that you're, you're?

• 1:00:02Speaker 04

  Oh my god, I'm trying to think about one.

• 1:00:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You gotta pick an embarrassing moment.

• 1:00:06Speaker 04

  Rasha, Rasha would know one.

• 1:00:08Speaker 05

  An embarrassing moment?

• 1:00:10Speaker 04

  An embarrassing moment. Oh my god.

• 1:00:11Speaker 05

  Do you guys know that viral moment when Jessica Simpson?

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  Oh, right, this is the one.

• 1:00:16Corinne Vien?

  Oh, the chicken or tuna of the sea?

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  And I was like, but what?

• 1:00:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, she did the same thing that Jessica did. She's like, but isn't it chicken? And I'm like, oh my god, Yvette, this is when we lived together in LA.

• 1:00:31Speaker 04

  There was like, yeah, you know, I do have a little bit of blonde in me.

• 1:00:36Speaker 04

  But hey, I would rather, I would rather be laughing like 24/7.

• 1:00:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fair, yeah.

• 1:00:41Corinne Vien?

  So you'll find the humor in your doppelganger.

• 1:00:43Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:00:43Corinne Vien?

  Reliving your embarrassing moments.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  Yes, I would, I would. And my abs would be tight.

• 1:00:48Speaker 05

  This is true.

• 1:00:50Corinne Vien?

  Okay, Rasha, would you rather have a ghost that moans your name every time you fall asleep?

• 1:00:57Corinne Vien?

  Or have everyone in your life insist that ghosts aren't real?

• 1:01:03Speaker 05

  Oh, oh, I'd probably want them to moan my name because I don't want to know that ghosts aren't real.

• 1:01:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I agree with that. Yeah.

• 1:01:13Speaker 05

  I would do the same.

• 1:01:14Corinne Vien?

  You'll get desensitized to it, right? Like you'll just hear the...

• 1:01:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, I'll get used to it. It'll be fine.

• 1:01:19Corinne Vien?

  Right. It's a white noise at this point.

• 1:01:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yvette, would you rather own a haunted Alexa that whispers true crime facts every morning at 3 a.m.? Or wake up every morning to find 100 unread messages in a group chat?

• 1:01:37Speaker 04

  Probably wake up every morning to find 100 messages in a group chat. Because I don't check all my messages as it is.

• 1:01:47Speaker 05

  I'm the same.

• 1:01:47Corinne Vien?

  It's an obligation to read them then.

• 1:01:49Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:01:52Speaker 04

  For sure. My sister gets anxiety looking at my phone when she sees if like if I have...

• 1:01:57Speaker 05

  There's a notification.

• 1:01:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, I have notifications that I haven't checked. I'm like, it's fine.

• 1:02:01Speaker 05

  I'm like, have you not responded? It's fine. I don't understand you.

• 1:02:04Corinne Vien?

  Rasha, are you like an inbox zero type of person?

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  Yes. Oh, she is.

• 1:02:08Speaker 05

  I am so type A in that sense.

• 1:02:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We used to be like that and now we both are like text messages at 150.

• 1:02:16Speaker 05

  Oh, God, I couldn't. I couldn't.

• 1:02:18Speaker 04

  And I'm like, it's fine.

• 1:02:22Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, here, let me, let me do this one first before the other one I was gonna do. So, Rasha, would you rather have a haunted ceiling fan that spins faster and faster and faster when you're anxious?

• 1:02:31Speaker 05

  Oh, shit.

• 1:02:32Corinne Vien?

  Or live with a thermostat that's stuck at 66 degrees forever?

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  Oh, that's easy.

• 1:02:37Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 1:02:37Speaker 04

  I mean, that's easy, Rasha.

• 1:02:39Speaker 05

  I can't have anything at 66, but I have the worst anxiety. Oh my god.

• 1:02:45Corinne Vien?

  So what are you gonna choose?

• 1:02:46Speaker 06

  I know, Raja.

• 1:02:48Speaker 05

  I'd probably go with the thermostat stuck at 66 because the fan would make me have a panic attack.

• 1:02:53Speaker 06

  Right?

• 1:02:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would also like start to fear like Final Destination, like this thing's gonna fly off and.

• 1:02:59Speaker 05

  I know, I can't even watch the commercial for the new one. I'm like, nope.

• 1:03:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, okay. You bet.

• 1:03:06Speaker 06

  Okay, okay.

• 1:03:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Would you rather have a spirit that appears every time you sneeze just to say, bless you, and then vanishes? Or have a partner who sneezes louder than loud every single time?

• 1:03:21Speaker 06

  Well, I have to go with the second one because I already have a partner who sneezes louder than loud and scares the bejesus out of me every time he sneezes, my husband, Gino. So that's a real thing.

• 1:03:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like both of those are not terrible. Like, I wouldn't mind a ghost showing up like every time I sneeze to say bless you.

• 1:03:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, bless you, bless you.

• 1:03:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's kind of polite.

• 1:03:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:43Corinne Vien?

  But then it's like, what does that ghost look like? And then the fear of them.

• 1:03:45Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:03:46Corinne Vien?

  And what if you don't know where they pop up? Like, are they gonna be right in front of your face? Or like across the yard?

• 1:03:50Speaker 06

  Like, ah, thank you.

• 1:03:53Corinne Vien?

  You're scared. It's like the buildup of the sneeze and you know they're about to pop up.

• 1:03:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:57Corinne Vien?

  I think the suspense of it would. I would choose the loud sneezer.

• 1:04:02Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:02Corinne Vien?

  Okay, Raja, would you rather be haunted by a spirit who sobs loudly during your Zoom calls? Or never be able to mute yourself on a Zoom call?

• 1:04:13Speaker 06

  Ooh. Depends how many weird noises you make.

• 1:04:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, shit.

• 1:04:22Speaker 05

  I think I'd go with never be able to mute myself because I try to keep all my embarrassing things like off the mic anyway.

• 1:04:31Speaker 05

  Like, if I have to burp, I'd be like, man, I'm reaching for something over here.

• 1:04:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I would like love to have a moaning Myrtle. And I'd have to explain it every time I'm on a Zoom call like, hey, you're gonna hear some sobbing. It's my ghost. She hates when I'm on Zoom.

• 1:04:46Speaker 06

  Don't worry about it, it's fine.

• 1:04:47Speaker 05

  But then I'd almost feel bad about it. I'd be like, I can't take a Zoom call because it upsets my house.

• 1:04:52Speaker 06

  I would feel bad. That's why I'd wanna not be able to mute myself.

• 1:04:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right, Yvette, would you rather have a Victorian child ghost who wants to play, but their favorite game is funeral? Or live in a home that used to be a funeral parlor?

• 1:05:12Speaker 04

  Oh, Lord.

• 1:05:14Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:05:17Speaker 06

  You have to pick one. No. Um, what was the first one again? Say it again.

• 1:05:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Have a Victorian child ghost who wants to play, but their favorite game to play is called Funeral.

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  I would have to say that. I would have to choose that one. Yeah.

• 1:05:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And they want you to play the dead person every time.

• 1:05:35Speaker 06

  She wants to play.

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  They want to play the dead person every time.

• 1:05:37Speaker 06

  She wants to play.

• 1:05:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Honestly, not a bad gig to play the dead person. If you get to like lie there and they pretend to do your makeup. Like it feels good. Feels like a little massage.

• 1:05:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, she might, she might have some talent. Who knows?

• 1:05:50Speaker 04

  But then they close the coffin and you freak out.

• 1:05:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm gonna pitch this game to my kid when he's old enough.

• 1:05:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Russia, would you rather wake up every morning to find creepy photos of yourself sleeping on your phone, but you always get a nice nine hours of sleep? Or wake up at the witching hour every single night, no matter what?

• 1:06:10Speaker 05

  Ooh. I would want the creepy photos on my phone and get the nine hours of sleep because my 13 year old steals my phone sometimes and does take creepy photos of me sleeping.

• 1:06:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, she takes photos like all the way up your nose.

• 1:06:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a lived experience. I love that.

• 1:06:27Speaker 05

  She loves the point five especially on her iPhone and gets all the crinkles in my head.

• 1:06:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh. So you do live in a haunted house. It's haunted by your 13 year old.

• 1:06:36Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:06:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, this is the last one?

• 1:06:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, Yvette.

• 1:06:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Would you rather have a ghost that whispers spoilers to every show you start? Or be limited to only watch cable and there's no streaming?

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 1:06:55Speaker 05

  That's a hard one.

• 1:06:55Speaker 04

  I think I would take the first. I would have a ghost who whispers the spoilers because I, I can't just watch cable and no streaming.

• 1:07:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, I agree.

• 1:07:06Speaker 06

  I can't, I can't.

• 1:07:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And Yvette's always the one that figures out what's going on.

• 1:07:11Speaker 04

  Yes, I am the true detective because I am always the one figuring out the shit right from the get. Ooh, that rhymed.

• 1:07:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, that's our game.

• 1:07:22Corinne Vien?

  So that was our palate cleanser.

• 1:07:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That was our palate cleanser. Love the palate cleanser.

• 1:07:27Corinne Vien?

  Makes you forget all of the videos and EVPs and photos we just looked at.

• 1:07:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I feel warm and fuzzy inside. Exactly. I feel like in general, this episode was lighter than the demon of Burrisville. Burrisville? Oh, Brownsville? Brownsville. Brownsville. The demon of Brownsville. I was like, what? Is that another one? You know, I missed a couple of letters there, but I was close. It's fine. You're fine. Which if people haven't listened, go check out that episode on So Supernatural.

• 1:07:57Corinne Vien?

  Well, thank you guys so much for joining us. We had so much fun. And we will.

• 1:08:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you.

• 1:08:03Corinne Vien?

  On the other side.

• 1:08:11Speaker 08

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