AI-Planned Dinner with Billionaires, NVIDIA Stock Bump & Billion $ Panda Express

Shaan's Free Workshop --> http://bit.ly/3INb6EV Episode 460: Sam Parr (@TheSamParr) and Shaan Puri (@ShaanVP) talk about Shaan's AI-planned dinner with billionaires, NVIDIA stock bump, billion dollar Panda Express, and Shaan's webinar on hiring internationally. Want to see more MFM? Subscribe to the MFM YouTube channel here. Check Out Shaan's Stuff: * Power Writing Course * Daily Newsletter Check Out Sam's Stuff: * Hampton * Ideation Bootcamp * Copy That ----- Show Notes: (01:00) - Shaan's Webinar (03:35) - Shaan's Billionaire Dinner (17:50) - AI Rally Cry (23:40) - Two controversial things (26:00) - NVIDIA (38:35) - Panda Express Founder: The $10B Mom and Pops (47:25) - Notable people who are back (57:10) - Trady (01:01:30) - Pomp Building ------ Links: * Delegation 101 For Entrepreneurs * How To Win Friends & Influence People * Airchat * Trady * Bay Area Times * Do you love MFM and want to see Sam and Shaan's smiling faces? Subscribe to our Youtube channel. ------ Past guests on My First Million include Rob Dyrdek, Hasan Minhaj, Balaji Srinivasan, Jake Paul, Dr. Andrew Huberman, Gary Vee, Lance Armstrong, Sophia Amoruso, Ariel Helwani, Ramit Sethi, Stanley Druckenmiller, Peter Diamandis, Dharmesh Shah, Brian Halligan, Marc Lore, Jason Calacanis, Andrew Wilkinson, Julian Shapiro, Kat Cole, Codie Sanchez, Nader Al-Naji, Steph Smith, Trung Phan, Nick Huber, Anthony Pompliano, Ben Askren, Ramon Van Meer, Brianne Kimmel, Andrew Gazdecki, Scott Belsky, Moiz Ali, Dan Held, Elaine Zelby, Michael Saylor, Ryan Begelman, Jack Butcher, Reed Duchscher, Tai Lopez, Harley Finkelstein, Alexa von Tobel, Noah Kagan, Nick Bare, Greg Isenberg, James Altucher, Randy Hetrick and more. ----- Additional episodes you might enjoy: • #224 Rob Dyrdek - How Tracking Every Second of His Life Took Rob Drydek from 0 to $405M in Exits • #209 Gary Vaynerchuk - Why NFTS Are the Future • #178 Balaji Srinivasan - Balaji on How to Fix the Media, Cloud Cities & Crypto * #169 - How One Man Started 5, Billion Dollar Companies, Dan Gilbert's Empire, & Talking With Warren Buffett • ​​​​#218 - Why You Should Take a Think Week Like Bill Gates • Dave Portnoy vs The World, Extreme Body Monitoring, The Future of Apparel Retail, "How Much is Anthony Pompliano Worth?", and More • How Mr Beast Got 100M Views in Less Than 4 Days, The $25M Chrome Extension, and More

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• 0:00Shaan Puri?

  AI is obviously all the rage. The entire menu was created by ChatGPT. So the host basically just typed in.

• 0:07Sam Parr?

  I appreciate that.

• 0:08Shaan Puri?

  I'm hosting a dinner for a bunch of tech people. X number of tech people create a menu for an epic dinner party. And it created a full menu.

• 0:15Sam Parr?

  Okay, that's cool.

• 0:16Shaan Puri?

  And then it's like, cool, like, generate an image using Dolly or whatever. And then basically created the whole menu that way. And the chef had to cook whatever ChatGPT had created, which was, which was pretty clever.

• 0:37Shaan Puri?

  Before we go into this episode, I gotta say, I'm doing a workshop with our boy Nick Huber. Do you see this?

• 0:43Sam Parr?

  Just say the W words for me.

• 0:46Shaan Puri?

  It's a workshop. It's not a.

• 0:49Sam Parr?

  Say that other W word.

• 0:50Shaan Puri?

  It's on the web.

• 0:53Shaan Puri?

  It might be a webinar. I might be doing a webinar.

• 0:55Sam Parr?

  Is it similar to a seminar on the web?

• 0:58Shaan Puri?

  I didn't even realize that was. Yeah, I'm doing one of the lamest things one man could do with another, and that's a webinar.

• 1:10Sam Parr?

  All right. Well, what's this webinar about?

• 1:12Shaan Puri?

  Basically, both of us are total, I don't know, nerds or just obsessed with hiring internationally. Like, for both of our companies, I think we both hit a moment where we're like, wait, I'm pretty sure I could find somebody for 10 times less. You know, cost 10 times less. And the secret part that most people don't realize, everybody gets that if you hire somebody overseas, they're, they're cheaper. What I found, I don't know if you, how much you do this, but they're way less.

• 1:38Sam Parr?

  Does overseas mean like, like across like the Mississippi River in Missouri?

• 1:49Sam Parr?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's oversee like the sea, like oversee like for you at the California, you're going to come into, you know, like Hannibal, Missouri.

• 1:57Shaan Puri?

  No, basically, I have, let's see, I got in one of my, in my e-commerce business, I think I have six or seven people in the Philippines, plus two in Latin America. So those are kind of the two hotspots. Latin America, you get the same time zone, and they're good for certain types of roles, like we have like data analytics and stuff like that. And then the Philippines, we have all of our customer support, plus like, anything that's like, sales and outreach. So we're just be like, hey, we want to go get every influencer on board. I'm not even going to talk to you. Just go, go make that happen. And every morning, report how many, how many influencers are on board. Show me the pipeline. Show me the, hey, we want this many wholesalers to start selling our stuff. Go make this happen. And they're just like an automated sales machine, which is pretty, pretty amazing. But anyways, we're doing this webinar, because, yeah, we just want to give away kind of like-

• 2:43Sam Parr?

  Yeah, you gotta call it a web in our-

• 2:46Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 2:46Sam Parr?

  Yeah, we're gonna do it on the web in our-

• 2:50Shaan Puri?

  Anyways, we decided we'll do one, we'll teach anybody who, it's like delegation 101. But if you want to do, if you want to join or whatever, it's on the 6th, I think, 6th of June-

• 3:00Sam Parr?

  Well, how do people find it?

• 3:01Shaan Puri?

  Go to, all right, we're gonna put on the screen, a giant link in the description, it'll be the top link in the podcast description, and, or the YouTube notes. But if you don't see any of those places, you can just go to my website, seanperi.com, and it'll, there'll be a little banner, if you want to do it. Because for doing this thing, might as well, if we're doing it for free, might as well have as many people as we can sign up. And if you sign up, even though you can't make it live, you'll just get the recording. So if you ever want to then hire internationally, you'll have the recording and all of our like, kind of Archie codes of after doing this for, I don't know, 10 years, here's what works, here's what doesn't.

• 3:31Sam Parr?

  All right, so we've started on one end of the spectrum. Can we please go to the other end of the spectrum and tell me about a dinner you had?

• 3:38Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, I had this dinner. I thought I already talked about it, but I don't think-

• 3:41Sam Parr?

  Billionaire Dinner is a great way to go when we started with Webin.

• 3:46Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, exactly. See, what happens is you hire people for low cost, then you go to this billionaire dinners. That's, that's basically what I did. So I went to a dinner at a billionaire's place. And I can't say exactly who, but I want to share three takeaways from this thing.

• 4:01Sam Parr?

  Are they a billionaire from being early at a tech company or for starting something amazing?

• 4:06Shaan Puri?

  Starting their own tech companies. So.

• 4:07Sam Parr?

  Do they sell it or is it still?

• 4:10Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. At this dinner, there was somebody who sold their business for, I think I could say some of the people who were there. So let me, let me try to do that. There was the guy who created Figma was there. So sold his company recently for 20 billion. So he was there. There was people that were like really internet OGs, like they were like their first internet company was in 98 or something like that. And so I, well, that's the part I actually loved. I was talking to them. So that's the story I want to share.

• 4:34Sam Parr?

  Those people are the best. They're the best.

• 4:36Shaan Puri?

  Cause I was like, what was it like back in the early days? And I'm going to tell you one thing that he told me, but before I do that, a couple of interesting things now. I've done a couple of these dinners.

• 4:44Sam Parr?

  Yeah. How did you get invited to this?

• 4:47Shaan Puri?

  I know one of the people there. So they, they, what they do is they host these regularly with the same crew, but then whoever is the host for that month gets to invite guests. So they were, they get to invite three or four guests that are not in the main group to kind of spice up the dinner, but then the main group is like been going for 10 years plus. So it's kind of aspirational. I was like, oh, I'm going to start one of these too. It's a, a once a month dinner with a, with a core crew. And then whoever's the host for that month gets to pick the food. And I think you do like a special gift, like Reed Hoffman, who's the creator of LinkedIn was in the group, whatever. And when, when it was his turn to host, I remember that, uh,

• 5:30Sam Parr?

  There's Rolex's.

• 5:32Shaan Puri?

  He created like his own board game of, uh, like an anti, like it was a Cards Against Trump, like his own version of Cards Against Humanity, but it was just Trump jokes. And he gave one to every guest, right? So just like baller shit like that. Um, so anyways, I'm at this dinner and I would say three observations. I've been to a couple of these dinners. Somehow every dinner I go to in San Francisco is like at least 30 to 50% people talking about psychedelics. And. Your boy's never done psychedelics. Sober as a cat.

• 6:03Sam Parr?

  Not once.

• 6:04Shaan Puri?

  No, not once. Way too scared to do it. Have you ever done psychedelics? I don't even really honestly know what would count as psychedelics. I think it's like LSD. I think it's like MDMA. I think it's DMT. These are all the letters, but I don't. I don't partake in any acronyms like this.

• 6:20Sam Parr?

  On one time I met this girl and we went out on like a first or maybe it was the second date. And this was when I was still drinking. So we were a little drunk and then we also took shrooms and a little bit of ecstasy or Molly or MDMA or I don't even know the chanting of them. So I felt, I definitely felt a little bit of all one, but I was also like pretty intoxicated too. So I like, it was, you know, a little bit, you know, maybe 50% of the potency, but that was the only time I've ever done it. And that was, you know, 15 years ago.

• 6:50Shaan Puri?

  The only acronym I've done is DARE and that kept me off all of this. But I gotta say, so I've done three of these dinners now in San Francisco with like entrepreneurial types, successful Silicon Valley types. And it's crazy how much people talk about psychedelics. Like half the table is our regular users of psychedelics or like, you know, regular meaning. It wasn't like your story of like, I did it once and it was, it was cool, but not, not for me or whatever.

• 7:19Sam Parr?

  Dude, I wasn't trying to like find myself. I was just trying to like, you know, have a freaky night.

• 7:24Shaan Puri?

  Find her.

• 7:25Sam Parr?

  Yeah. Yeah. We were trying to find something, but it wasn't myself. I was trying to find myself like, you know, like with each other later that evening, but that's about it.

• 7:34Shaan Puri?

  So in these conversations, to me, there's, what's coming up is not like, it's not, bro, I got so drunk. It's not a brag like that. It's I, the conversation is like this weird intellectual thing where it's like, one third talking about how psychedelics or LSD is cool. One third talking about public policy, like I can't believe these are outlawed. It's crazy. This is, there's, and then one third is science. It's like, there's.

• 8:02Sam Parr?

  Dude, I don't give a shit about any of those topics.

• 8:04Shaan Puri?

  There is so much research about how this can like cure PTSD and like blah, blah, blah. And it just keeps happening. Every dinner I've gone to in San Francisco, three in a row now, half the conversation is talking about this, which tells me one of two things.

• 8:15Sam Parr?

  It's a potpourri in the middle of the table, like fart flavored. Is that like, is that what this place is like?

• 8:21Shaan Puri?

  I'll tell you about the food in a second. They, um, the, the thing with, with these is, is I've, I've had this experience once before or twice before where a lot of people in Silicon Valley are talking about something that I'm like, ah, this seems weird. And then like five years later, it's the norm or seven years later, it's the total norm. So there is this thing that's like, Paul Graham says, if you want to invent the future, you first just live in it. And, and I think that's one of the things that Silicon Valley is pretty good at is people here will do things, whether it's like, like what you're doing, biohacking, where you're wearing continuous glucose monitors. Like Tim Ferriss was wearing a continuous glucose monitor back in like 2008 or something like that. And then a decade later, now it's like a thing that a lot of fitness people are doing.

• 9:05Shaan Puri?

  There's whole startups that are built around, uh, letting you do this like Nutrisense or Levels or whatever. And, uh, but it was like very strange at the time, but there were this like small community of people doing it. Same thing with crypto. Back in 2012, there was people going to these meetups that were like all about Bitcoin. And then they seem like, you know, the biggest kind of freaks at the time, uh, 2011, 2012. And then a decade later, it's on CNBC every day. And so like, I've seen this a few times in Silicon Valley where they're somewhat ahead of the curve, but of course it's like anything, uh, that's out of like, you know, a little bit contrarian. It's not always, just because it's weird, doesn't mean it's always going to be a thing.

• 9:41Sam Parr?

  But the psychedelic conversation, that was cool 10 years ago. Now it's, it's, I mean, you can go to, I mean, I see everyone on Facebook saying, I just got back from some country where we did an ayahuasca retreat. I mean, like,

• 9:51Shaan Puri?

  I don't think that's normal for most people. I think that's like your circle, uh, and my circle a little bit more than it is the average person. All right. So that was one, one piece of it. Second. AI is obviously all the rage. The entire menu was created by ChatGPT. So the host basically just typed in. I appreciate that. I'm hosting a dinner for a bunch of tech people, X number of tech people, create a menu for an epic dinner party. And it created a full menu. Okay, that's cool. And he goes, write the whole thing like a Shakespearean, a Shakespearean play. And so it just translated the menu into like this, like very flowery poem, basically. And then it's like, cool, like generate an image using Dolly or whatever. And then basically created the whole menu that way.

• 10:31Shaan Puri?

  And the chef had to cook whatever ChatGPT had created, which was, which was pretty clever, including like the drinks and whatever. So I thought that was, that was fun. And then the last thing I want to say is, I was talking to one guy and I didn't ask him if I could say this. So I don't, I don't want to say his name necessarily, but he was one of those internet OGs. And I was like, I was like, so what's your story? And he's like, well, I started a business back in, he says, says the name of this company that like I've heard of from the dot com boom. And then like, you know, disappeared after that. And I was like, oh, wow, like, that's interesting. And I was like, so what was it like back then, you know, doing a startup here? He's like, he's like, it was crazy. He's like, I knew every single person doing a startup. He's like, he's like, we used to have like, like in San Francisco here, we used to have these meetups. He's like, we would meet up once a month.

• 11:17Shaan Puri?

  And he's like, it started out with just me and this one guy. He named the guy, I can think I can name this guy, who's the, the guy who started Nextdoor.

• 11:28Shaan Puri?

  This guy, Nirav Tolia. And he's like, me and Nirav were like, hey, let's get together a bunch of, anybody else who you know, that's like interested in this tech, like internet thing, like. Our fellow nerds. Yeah, like if they, if you, if you know anybody doing internet stuff, let's invite them to this thing. And then they created this group and he's like, dude, the group was insane. He's like, it was the guy who went to, you know, like the guy who created Zynga, then the guy who created LinkedIn, the guy who created YouTube, the guy who created PayPal, like all of them. He's like, we would just hang out like, it was just like, like, you know, we used to do those mastermind dinners in San Francisco. He's like, it was like that. He's like, at that time, you didn't know who any of these people were. You didn't know who's special, who wasn't. You just knew we're all super rich to the internet. Add three zeros to like our success and that was, it was basically the same thing. Exactly. And so he's like,

• 12:14Shaan Puri?

  He's like, we would get together and it was just like debates about like what's going on with the internet and like what cool stuff you're seeing. And he's like, we would just shoot the shit late into the night. He's like, and then afterwards. Uh, it started growing. He's like, so it started growing. Then we had like too many people for one table. So we made two tables. I was the host of one and the other guy was the host of the other table. Let's lead that discussion. Then afterwards you would compare notes and be like, who should we invite back? He's like, the key was the internet started growing in popularity like crazy. Like a lot of people wanted to do internet companies. The way that we made the community work was we started pruning hardcore. So he's like, we were like, the bigger the overall community gets, the more high level this one needs to get. So let's, let's only invite pack people that we think are like the most dynamic, the people who are going to do the most interesting things.

• 12:57Shaan Puri?

  He's like, so dude, he's like, this would have been the best venture portfolio of all time. Like it was every internet company that's big now. They were there. And then even the people who were like, you'll have like a Jack Dorsey or something like that. It's like, they hadn't even done their big thing yet. And they're kind of the junior guy at this thing hanging out. Right? Uh, that's, I don't know if he specifically was doing it, but he gave me some, some names of, of some examples of people that were there. Cause I was like, who could you tell at that time was going to do something?

• 13:25Sam Parr?

  And who did he say?

• 13:25Shaan Puri?

  He's like, it felt like half the group. He's like, basically we as, he's like, what we did was when somebody like stood out as somebody that, that really kind of knew where the puck was going. We made them a table host. So they would host their own table. By the end, we had like eight, nine tables going and they were.

• 13:39Sam Parr?

  Did he say of anyone? The question I would have asked was the opposite is who's a mega success? Who you thought, oh, that doofus. I can't believe he, he turned into something.

• 13:47Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. And I, he did tell me a couple of stories, but on both directions, people he thought was just, this person's an animal. They're going to do great things and somebody who's a little over it. I don't want to say, cause you know, if they figured out that I don't want them to be upset or whatever, but I would say like, one of the things he told me was. It wasn't, it wasn't the people who are working on ideas that sounded big. So all the people that ended up with a big thing, the things they were working on weren't the things that sounded like important businesses from day one.

• 14:19Sam Parr?

  And they became important?

• 14:20Shaan Puri?

  They became important.

• 14:21Sam Parr?

  Eventually iterated to the important thing.

• 14:23Shaan Puri?

  Like it was a bigger space than we all realized. It was like, it was basically the person that was like, kind of like doing the thing that was most interesting to them and not necessarily the like, okay, internet's going to be a big deal. So therefore I'm going to create this important sounding real world business on the internet. It wasn't that. It was like, okay, yeah, this is cool that people are doing this. Like, like social networking at the time was not seen as a space that was going to be yield hundred billion dollar companies, right? Like it wasn't, that wasn't a thing that was, uh, that sounded like the frivolous fun thing. It's like, oh, cool. You like, you can like, create a profile, like take a quiz, you can like write something silly on their wall or whatever.

• 15:06Shaan Puri?

  Like that didn't seem like the big ideas and like all the big ideas seem like, you know, even like things like, um, so it was like breaking into three categories, like things that you didn't think were going to happen on the internet, selling cars, booking travel. Like, you know, it wasn't like, it's like, are people going to do that? Or maybe they'll do like homes, home buying. It's like, I don't know. Maybe that seems like something you really want to do in the real world. It's like, those seemed like kind of fringe because I don't know if people will do it. It was social networking that seemed fringe and small. And that's fun, but not, not that interesting because we, we don't, it's free. How are we going to make a big business out of this? Um, you know, what are you going to do with all these free users that are just going on there and goofing off? And then, then there was like, you know, the things that were actually like important sounding businesses. So I thought that was kind of interesting too. And it reminds me

• 15:50Shaan Puri?

  of, have you seen this, uh, clip? This is all my last thing on this. Look up NFX on TikTok. So NFX is a, uh, is an investment fund.

• 16:01Sam Parr?

  And SX Insights?

• 16:02Shaan Puri?

  Insights. That's exactly right.

• 16:03Sam Parr?

  Yeah. Okay. I'm on their page.

• 16:05Shaan Puri?

  Watch that first video. We'll put this in the YouTube video, but, uh, watch this first video real quick of James Courier standing there.

• 16:11Sam Parr?

  All right. It says everyone in S F is all in on generative AI. So there's an underground scene of startups. This kind of revolution happens every 14 years and builders are here to change the world. And it's James Courier. He's on a stage or like a, he's on a chair at a roof full of like 20 guys. Share your key performance indicators with each other. He's saying to people, share your ideas. The speed of what you move is what gives you and this town and this community its advantage. And it's 65% of all money invested in AI. It's being invested in San Francisco right now. So he's giving this pump up speech where he's trying to say like, you know, years ago, there was like the Facebooks. But just to let you know, this is happening right now with AI. And he's in a room with people like giving this cool speech and everyone's like staring up at him.

• 16:56Sam Parr?

  And they seem like they're super into it.

• 16:58Shaan Puri?

  It's, it's so cool. So he's literally like, you could see a staircase coming down. So he's somewhere downstairs in like a basement. He's standing on a chair and he's in a room full of people. And he's like, basically gives them a rally speech of like, look, this is where the magic happens. He's like, you're in this town, you're in this room, you're with a bunch of builders. And what he says is every 14 years or so, one of these waves happen. And they last somewhere between 24 to 36 months. And he's talking about AI. He's like, um, he's like, we've seen this before with mobile. So mobile comes out, but there's this three year window between kind of like 2009 to 2012.

• 17:38Shaan Puri?

  And it happened with the internet and I was like, you know, kind of like 99,000 to kind of 2003, 2004. And he's like, you get 36 to maybe 48 months max to, um, to take advantage of this moment. And you're in this room, you're with other people. There's some like, basically like there's somebody in this room right now who's building the next big thing. I, you know, I hope it's you, but you want to trade ideas, trade strategies, trade what you're like doing. Find interesting people, work on projects with them, invest in each other. Like this is your time to focus. These windows only open up for a small period of time. Move as fast as you can. And I thought it was pretty, I thought it was pretty dope, uh, to see this kind of like. I don't know this, this like, I don't know, rally cry.

• 18:23Shaan Puri?

  And it really does seem like that's what's happening with, with artificial intelligence right now. Like, there's a window, the big shit's gonna get built right now. The, the next kind of Facebooks of the world are, are being built right now. And it just kind of re highlights the intensity of the moment if you're an entrepreneur.

• 18:40Sam Parr?

  Have you heard that parable about like, there's this guy who, uh, he's, uh, there's a big flood and he's on this roof. And a guy with a boat comes by and goes, hey, uh, come on, get my boat. I could, I need to save you. And the guy on the roof goes, no, no, no, I'm praying to God, I'm a religious guy, God's gonna save me. And I goes, all right, fine. Another guy comes on the boat, it's the same thing. And he goes, no, no, no, I'm not gonna get in that boat. I'm gonna wait for the, uh, God to come and save me. That happens two or three times. The guy eventually drowns and dies. He goes to heaven, he goes, God, what the hell? Why didn't you come and save me? And guy goes, dude, I had four boats come and get you. Like, why didn't you, why didn't you just hop in? That was me. This video, the reason it's somewhat of that is there's this like James Carrier, who he's wearing like, pretty much an ugly shirt.

• 19:23Sam Parr?

  That's like, uh, he's wearing like a, he's wearing like a tucked in tee shirt into blue jeans, kind of dad jeans. I mean, he looks like a dad, he's probably.

• 19:31Shaan Puri?

  He is a dad.

• 19:32Sam Parr?

  Yeah, he's 55, so he looks like he should. And he's wearing like kind of an ugly shirt. And he's like, just a normal looking guy, I guess, is what I mean. And he's giving this really nice speech, but in a basement. And it's that same thing where like everyone's looking for some big opportunity. And from like grand, like epiphany moment, it's like, no, just some guy dressed like, dresses like this, he's in a basement. And he's telling you like.

• 19:54Shaan Puri?

  The message is here, the message is here and the message is clear. And he's trying to shake you by the, he's trying to grab you by the collar and shake you and be like, hey, this is like playtime is over, the window is open, go. And, uh, I love it. I think that's, I think it's a hundred percent true. And I, I want to leave with two controversial opinions.

• 20:11Sam Parr?

  It's a video with 6,000 views. This is, this is the man in the boat trying to save you from drowning.

• 20:16Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, but by the way, the best stuff, like the best content I consume, the most insightful, meaningful content I consume is all like this. It's got like 1,200 views on YouTube. It's got, you know, 6,000 views on TikTok. The best stuff is not the most popular stuff when it comes to like business stuff. You used to host HustleCon and people had to fly out to San Francisco, pay a couple hundred bucks for their ticket, spend all day, do that. Not everybody could do that. Not everybody could afford the flight, the hotel, the ticket, take a day off work, blah, blah, blah. You put all the talks up on YouTube. Every single one of them was on YouTube. It's in fact, it's on our channel on YouTube. Just scroll back all the way to the oldest videos. All the talks are there. And all the talks have like 400 views. And it's crazy.

• 21:00Shaan Puri?

  It's like, oh, you want to be successful. Oh, really? Same thing like Harvard's whole curriculum is like online. You can go take any Harvard class you want online. And people will cry about not like, not having the opportunities that the rich Harvard kids have. What are you talking about? All the classes are online. You can take every single computer science course right now. Yeah. Have the same education that Gates had, that Zuckerberg had access to. You got access to all of it. And they'll have like 900 views. And it just shows you that like the, the, the real ones are going to go do the thing. The, the, those 900 views are like the valuable people. Like, I want to go meet all 900 people that are, that are watching those videos. Cause those are the people that are actually finding. So that's takeaway one. That's, oh no. Oh no, your two cut. My two, two controversial things.

• 21:44Shaan Puri?

  San Francisco is back, baby. And the second thing is this whole like idea of moving away to lower your taxes and moving away to be remote. The best teams are going to be working together. They're going to be in the room with each other, especially pre-product market fit. But I will take any team that's co-located over a remote team any day. Just head to head, if it was a competition, I would take the, the team that's going to be in there every day, having a bunch of serendipitous conversations, whiteboarding ideas, getting to know each other better because they're just spending all like absurd, obscene amount of time together. I would rather have those people that are willing to commit and go all in like that over a distributed remote team where you're spending half your day actually, you know, walking your dog and taking care of your kids and doing, doing all that stuff. I think they're just going to outperform.

• 22:27Shaan Puri?

  And I think that San Francisco is going to outperform. I think that going to the, the, the dense city as like the people who care about the extra 10% in taxes. Or the people who are like, oh, I don't want to live here because, um, you know, I don't like the DA's policy on crime. You know, I just think that that's, I think it's insane that people in a, in a game where the upside is like thousand X returns, that people optimize for a 10% break in state income taxes. It's crazy to me.

• 22:56Sam Parr?

  Yeah, but bro, you're like 11 in San Francisco.

• 22:58Shaan Puri?

  I was close enough.

• 22:59Sam Parr?

  Be alert of.

• 22:59Shaan Puri?

  Stones throw away as they say. I'm across the.

• 23:05Sam Parr?

  What person get though and rack that far?

• 23:09Shaan Puri?

  Do you got a catapult for that?

• 23:14Sam Parr?

  I'm one easy pass away.

• 23:16Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 23:17Sam Parr?

  You're one easy 50 mile throw away.

• 23:23Sam Parr?

  I agree with everything you're saying. All right, this next segment, we're going to call it three killer Asians. And it's about three people. One of those, two of those people is a couple that you're going to talk about, but I'll go first. And then the reason I'm bringing this up. So this week, so let me preface by saying I don't know anything about like public markets. I, I, I'm a, I'm a index investor. I don't do anything like crazy. And so I don't know much, but this week I paid attention to my portfolio. Did you pay attention to yours? There was a, a nice little bump.

• 23:56Shaan Puri?

  I have not checked. What's going on?

• 23:58Sam Parr?

  So stocks are doing well. The tech sector is doing well. And I emailed my banker or texted him. I go, Griffin, what's going on, man? Why the, why, why do I have so much more money than I did the day before? And he said Nvidia just crushed their earnings. And like a lot of people out there, I know the name Nvidia. I know that Nvidia is a company, but I don't really know what they do. Do you know what Nvidia does?

• 24:22Shaan Puri?

  They make chips. They make the chips that go into your, like if you buy a gaming PC, the graphics, the GPU in there is going to be made by Nvidia. It's like Intel makes chips and Nvidia makes chips and AMD makes chips. It's like three companies that make chips.

• 24:36Sam Parr?

  Okay. So do me a favor. Do you have Google up? Google Gary Oldman. So the word Gary and then Oldman, O L E M A N. You know, you see who that is?

• 24:48Sam Parr?

  Old man, like old man. You see it?

• 24:51Shaan Puri?

  Uh, it's pulling up.

• 24:52Sam Parr?

  It's an actor.

• 24:53Shaan Puri?

  Very old.

• 24:54Sam Parr?

  Yeah, you see it, you see it. Yeah, you see, you see Gary. All right. You recognize Gary?

• 24:58Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, I see this guy around.

• 25:00Sam Parr?

  Yeah, okay. There happened another guy named Gary Cole. You see Gary Cole?

• 25:05Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, another actor. Okay.

• 25:07Sam Parr?

  And, and what's your reaction when you see him?

• 25:10Shaan Puri?

  Um, I have no reaction to this guy. What, what am I supposed to be reacting to?

• 25:14Sam Parr?

  You just like seen him around, right?

• 25:15Shaan Puri?

  Oh, yeah, sure. It looks like, it looks like a guy.

• 25:18Sam Parr?

  Nvidia is like McGarry's, uh, the tech world.

• 25:22Shaan Puri?

  Gary Oldman. Where you're going with that?

• 25:25Sam Parr?

  So Gary Oldman, for those of you who are on the computer, Gary Oldman was the chief on Dark Knight, like the, like the top in Dark Knight.

• 25:34Shaan Puri?

  The guy who puts up the bat signal.

• 25:36Sam Parr?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was also, uh, Winston Churchill in like that, The Darkest Hour movie. He plays all these roles where like you see him and you're like, oh, that guy's great. He's awesome. He's always there. He always has a good performance and everything. He's been, it's probably pretty good. But like he's never like the guy and he's never like, I can't tell you who he is. I'd have to look it up. Same with like, you know, there's a bunch of these actors who are like that. That's what Nvidia is of, of the tech world. So basically, and this is gonna sound like obvious to anyone who's like, is in deep tech, but for someone like me who's not, uh, I had to like figure out what Nvidia is. So basically the story is, is that they create GPU, is it GPU chips or does GPU? They, they invented it. So prior to Nvidia, there was like these other chip companies and, uh, they like Intel was one of them, just like the big dogs who you

• 26:21Sam Parr?

  have heard about the seventies and eighties and, and they just make chips that ran your computer, whatever. But then as computers got a little bit better, uh, Jensen Hung, the founder, he was like, look, we need to have a 3D chip for 3D or a chip for 3D video and graphic process. So basically like we can like, our screens will be more interactive and, and all that. And so he invents this chip and he runs the company now for 30 years. So he's been CEO for, of this company longer than any other like newish tech company. And he made this bet and it wasn't that big of a bet. So when he launched in 1993, he raised a $2 million round of funding at a $6 million valuation.

• 27:00Sam Parr?

  So this wasn't like some like, you're gonna crush this. Like it was just a normal startup at the time, but he makes this bet that he thinks that, um, That CPUs, which is what people used to use, that that's gonna be like a little bit less popular. GPUs, which is for graphics and like more general use, that's gonna be like the thing. And so the first people who start using it are gamers. So in like different gaming PCs, people start using it. And then Apple, Microsoft, whatever, they're like, oh, man, we actually also want some of these chips. So we're gonna use that. But now it's expanded way beyond that. So like Tesla uses their chips. So like when you wanna like do self-driving, they've got an Nvidia chip that helps them figure out like where people are.

• 27:42Sam Parr?

  You know, the camera will will use the GPU chip and then it will put like, you know, when you're on a Tesla, you can see people walking across the street. And then now they're even using for artificial intelligence. So anyone who's using like OpenAI, Amazon Web Services, things like that, they're also using GPU. And so this company, it's one of those companies that you don't really think about because it's a B two B company. But at this point, and this is what shocked me. Nvidia is now either the seventh or eighth largest company in the world. Is that insane?

• 28:11Shaan Puri?

  Wow.

• 28:12Sam Parr?

  And so like this company, because their stock did well, the whole NASDAQ, which is like a tech's, a tech-based index.

• 28:21Shaan Puri?

  The market cap is almost one trillion. It's nine hundred sixty-three billion right now.

• 28:26Sam Parr?

  It's insane, right? So because Nvidia popped, the whole NASDAQ, the whole NASDAQ, which is a tech-based, a tech-forward like stock exchange, that's what I meant, not index. They're killing it because of that. And so I have no idea, I like heard that name and be I'm like, what is this little like gaming company? How is this like moving the stock market? And that's what it is. And this guy, the founder, the the acquired guys have a really good episode on him, same as Jensen. He's like really interesting. So he was a Taiwanese immigrant and he, his parents didn't have any money. So they sent him to like a boarding school, which is like a reform school for kids who had issues. And like his roommate was this guy who had just got out of prison at the age of like sixteen or seventeen. And he had been stabbed like fifteen times.

• 29:09Sam Parr?

  And so the guy was like, hey, kick me out of your computers and I'll show you how to lift weights. And so if you look at this guy now, Jensen, he's like a pretty buff guy. And he also has like the word Nvidia, but. Nvidia logo tattooed on him and he like says all these like really wild things like I'll say my will to survive is greater than almost anyone's will to kill me. And like, yeah, all these phrases where he just says like, I'm all in, baby. And so he's a really interesting entrepreneur. But he's like the Gary Oldman of the world where we don't actually like, he's not up there like, we're not watching videos of him like Mark Zuckerberg doing jujitsu because he's not like a mainstream facing guy. But now I think it's going to change because they are absolutely crushing it and I'm one of the many people who probably had no idea what they do.

• 29:52Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. When the acquired guys came on our pod, I think you asked them, you're like, hey, you studied all these companies. You studied all these, these epic titans of business.

• 30:04Shaan Puri?

  And I think you said like, who would you not want to compete with or who would you want to compete with the least? And they said this guy Jensen Huang, they were like Jensen, the guy from Nvidia. The leather jacket wearing CEO has got the Nvidia tattoo on his shoulder. Who has just been like, you know, a monster for like, you know, 20 years with this company. And that was not the answer. Like, I wouldn't have guessed that that's who they would have said.

• 30:27Sam Parr?

  And it was an, it was an unfulfilling answer because I was like, well, I don't know anything about this guy. And I bet most of our listeners were like, oh, I thought you were saying Mark Zuckerberg or someone famous. And this guy's just quietly kind of behind the scenes, although he is like a loud personality. He's not, he doesn't seem obnoxious, but he wears like a cool leather jacket and he looks like very confident. But he's just been quietly behind the scene, kind of killing it. I don't know what his net worth is now, but I bet you he's one of like the top 30 or 50 richest people in America or in the world at the moment.

• 30:56Shaan Puri?

  And he just gave a talk at like the Taiwanese like National University or something like that. And he, I haven't seen it yet, but it's like his commencement speech. And like, you remember the Steve Jobs, like the great one, like the, the one he did at Stanford that was like, just like incredible.

• 31:16Shaan Puri?

  He gave a talk. I haven't seen the whole thing, but there's a couple of lessons and people have tweeted out. I want to share a couple with you. So he's like, uh, he goes, lesson number one, humility. He goes, confront failure head on and ask for help. So he says, back in the day, or one year in the early days of Nvidia, they got their first big chip contract and it was with Sega, the video game console. And he goes, after a year of development, they realized that they had picked the wrong technical strategy to make the chip that was going to do the things that Sega needed to fulfill the contract. And he's like, we realized our architecture was the wrong strategy. He's like, uh, you know, we didn't know what to do. Should we scramble, try to make it work? Should we just deliver something that's not great?

• 31:56Shaan Puri?

  Like, what should we do? Should we start over? We don't have time. He's like, so I just called the CEO of Sega and I was like, hey, I think you have to find another partner.

• 32:05Shaan Puri?

  But I also need you to keep paying us on the contract. He's like, what? He's like, I hate to even ask this. I'm embarrassed. If you like, if we don't have this money, we're going to go out of business. Like, if you just please pay out the rest of this contract, like I'm embarrassed to even ask you this, but um, we need these six months to survive. And uh, we've, we screwed up. Uh, you know, I'll do everything in my power to help you do this and I'll, I'm trying to make it right after this, but like, if we don't have this, if you don't pay this contract, it's over. The show's over for us. And the C of C, uh, Sega agreed. He actually paid it out. They gave him six months to survive. He's like, you gotta confront your mistakes head on with humility and ask for help. That saved Nvidia.

• 32:46Shaan Puri?

  He's like, this is the hardest thing to learn for somebody who's the, the, the smart and successful type. They try to, uh, you know, avoid failure or be denial or, uh, or hide from it. What else did it say? He goes, second is, uh, lesson number two, you have to endure the pain and suffering to realize your dream. So he goes, uh, in 2007, we announced, um, CUDA, this like new way to like, kind of like program your GPUs. I think that's the real key for Nvidia. They don't just make the chips. They make the, they make the, this CUDA thing is, is important. So it's basically the way that people, developers can use GPUs and like, uh, Control the GPUs to do what they want.

• 33:23Sam Parr?

  And by the way, they don't even make the chips. They like design them and they have a partnership with this other Taiwanese company, which is why like sometimes they'll say like, you'll hear things like, well, Taiwan gets invaded by China.

• 33:34Shaan Puri?

  We're at risk.

• 33:35Sam Parr?

  The eighth largest company in the world is gonna be kind of screwed, which means X, Y, and Z for the rest.

• 33:42Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, especially all the companies that need chips, like, oh, all of our cars need chips, all of our computers need chips, all of our phones need chips. If we lose control of the chips, it's like losing the nukes, or it's like losing access to oil. It's like a big deal. So anyways, um, so he goes, he goes, you know, we basically, we tried to create this thing back in two thousand and seven. Uh, it was super hard, super expensive. Our, our profits took a huge hit. And we had many years of poor performance and our shareholders were skeptical, like, dude, why are you spending all this money on this stupid like GPUs, CUDA thing? Like, you need to improve profitability, blah, blah, blah. He's like, but we just said, no, we're gonna keep doing this. And basically, it took like three or four years before there was even a market for this. But by the time there was a market for this, they were so far ahead.

• 34:26Shaan Puri?

  He's like, so then the phone comes out, the phone, phones become a huge success. Now phones need GPUs. And by two thousand and ten, they had the lead in the mobile chip market. So, uh, chips for phones. He's like, that was huge. And, um, oh no, sorry. The, uh, I screwed up the story. The GPUs thing becomes a big deal as gaming continues to go that direction and like all the AI machine learning stuff. But like, that was, it took like, you know, almost ten years for that to come through. But they like stuck to their guns and stuck with it, even though the shareholders and the, the public markets were punishing them for it. And then the last one, he's like, you know, we were in the mobile chip market, we were the leader. And he's like, um, but it just became so competitive. There was so many people fighting for the same pie.

• 35:09Shaan Puri?

  They basically decided to like sacrifice, um, sacrifice the mobile market and leave that in order to do to, uh, to go for like, you know, a, a different market, this kind of AI machine learning market. And again, it seemed like a terrible strategic bet. It's like you're leaving the biggest market, cell phones, in order to go for this like unknown, like, you know, risky thing. And that strategic bet paid off because they became, you know, the, by far the leader in this field. And, uh, and now that became like, you know, the biggest market, the market everybody's bullish about. And the reason their stock is up so much is because They like gave guidance, like they had like a revenue target or forecast or whatever. There was a revenue forecast and they like just came out like, ah, actually we think we're gonna crush that by like 30%.

• 35:52Shaan Puri?

  And they're like, wait, 30% on a number that's already in the multi billions? And they're like, yes. And so the stock took off after that.

• 36:00Sam Parr?

  Dude, it's awesome. So I'm a big fan. I'm a big Ben of the Sky so is it hot or or?

• 36:05Shaan Puri?

  I think it's long.

• 36:06Sam Parr?

  I don't.

• 36:08Sam Parr?

  The silent agents are always a challenge for me. But Mr. Jensen of Anidia, you are today's killer Asian number one. Sean, tell me who are killer agents number two and three.

• 36:17Shaan Puri?

  All right, we're going from a guy who makes GPUs and AI, artificial intelligence to orange.

• 36:26Sam Parr?

  And that's cheese.

• 36:28Shaan Puri?

  Butchered the joke was too good.

• 36:31Sam Parr?

  GP to M S C.

• 36:34Shaan Puri?

  So I met somebody who was like a real estate person and they were like, uh, I was like, yeah, you know, how's the real estate thing going? They're like, oh dude, it's going great. We're growing, growing, growing. I was like, so you're still just doing this all with your own money? And he's like, yeah, although there's one person wants to put money in that I'll take. And I was like, but you've always said no to anybody's money. Like, why? Who's this one person and why? Why are you interested? He goes, it's the guy who started Panda Express. This guy's a billionaire, like multi billionaire. And he's got so much money. He's got an unbelievable amount of money that he doesn't know what to do with it. I was like, you know, he's like, needs a place to invest this money. And I was like, Panda Express? Like, how much money are they making? And I kind of looked into it.

• 37:14Shaan Puri?

  So this is, this segment is Panda Express, the $10 billion mom and pop. So I don't know how much you know about Panda Express, but.

• 37:22Sam Parr?

  A bit.

• 37:23Shaan Puri?

  It does, uh, I, I know you've, uh, you've tested the, the goods.

• 37:29Shaan Puri?

  So basically it's a privately owned company. So it's just owned by this husband and wife. It does about $5 billion a year in sales, 5.3 billion last year. There are no franchises like of this thing. So they kind of independently own, I think, almost all. There might be like a hundred that are like in international territories that they don't control. But for the most part, they have grown this thing to a huge international chain. It's, I think, the third biggest fast food chain or something like that. It's like, you know, just behind, uh, you know, sort of like the, the, the huge ones, the McDonald's and Chick-fil-A's of the world. And, um, They are on track to become a $10 billion mom and pop company, which is just kind of insane. And my friend who I, uh, who, who was telling me about-

• 38:13Sam Parr?

  What are their names?

• 38:15Shaan Puri?

  What's up? Uh, Andrew, it's Andrew, like, Churn. Uh, I don't know how you say it exactly. It's like Churn. It's C H E R N G or something like that. Uh, it's him and his wife and they, they've owned this thing. They've run this thing. So he started the first one. It was like called like the Panda Inn back in the day. It was like a normal restaurant.

• 38:32Sam Parr?

  I think he's, I think he started it. Yeah, I think his dad had one.

• 38:37Shaan Puri?

  His dad was the chef. So, so his dad was a, was a chef and he, he opened up Panda Inn and his dad was the chef of that restaurant. And then he's, then fast food started taking off and Andrew got pretty fascinated with this idea of fast food. It was like, okay, what if we did Chinese fast food? And so they, the second or third location they did was this like express, this like fast-

• 38:58Sam Parr?

  And it was in California, right?

• 38:59Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 38:59Sam Parr?

  Where there was more Asians.

• 39:01Shaan Puri?

  And they, um, and they start doing a bunch of things that are smart. So some of the strategic smart things that they did was, uh, um, they opened up a bunch of locations as they grew in airports and military bases, which a lot of people weren't doing at the time, but they were like, oh, this is a great way to build awareness. Like, these are like huge hubs that a lot of people come through. If we're here, we will become like known and normal as like, uh, as like a cuisine, basically. And so they did those, even though those weren't the most profitable locations, they did it kind of like for the brand. The second thing, they, um, the, uh, his wife was like a food engineer or something like that. And so she was one of the first people in Chinese restaurants to use a whole bunch of tech.

• 39:45Shaan Puri?

  So tech to monitor inventory or measure speed for, for operations. And that's why they became so efficient and they called themselves McDonald's of the east. Because they're as efficient as a McDonald's, even though almost every other kind of like- Chinese restaurant was it was a traditional mom and pop. They didn't, you know, they write down the orders by hand. They, you know, they track inventory by going and open up the fridge and eyeball and everything and being like, I think we need to order more eggs. Whereas they turned this into kind of like a machine and they would find things that were working in one store. So like this guy in Hawaii who owned one of the, who was running one of the stores, the chef there, he created orange chicken. And he's like, oh, I think I could take, you know, that one beef dish

• 40:26Shaan Puri?

  that's an appetizer that uses the orange peels. I think I could use that orange thing on the General Sales Chicken and like combine the two. I have this fried chicken that's got the orange flavor.

• 40:35Sam Parr?

  So Panda Express invented orange chicken?

• 40:38Shaan Puri?

  That's what it sounded like for my, my reading. Now, I don't know if there's others that are debating that, but that's, that's how they frame it at least. And they sell a hundred million pounds of orange chicken a year. It's like a crazy number. And so, uh, yeah, just this insane thing. So I think they do almost like, like $800 million of EBITDA.

• 40:57Sam Parr?

  I know someone.

• 40:59Shaan Puri?

  It's like an incredible amount of money.

• 41:01Sam Parr?

  I know someone who knows him and he told me the same number.

• 41:04Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 41:04Sam Parr?

  He told me, he goes, he goes, they're knocking on the door. He goes, they're knocking on the door of a billion in EBITDA.

• 41:11Shaan Puri?

  Exactly.

• 41:11Sam Parr?

  That's how much cash.

• 41:12Shaan Puri?

  And then they say, well, what do you do with all this money? And the people have asked them, like, are you going to take it public? And the CFO is like, never. This is going to be a family business to pass it down from generation to generation. Our job is to make this a multi-generational, family-owned business. And I think that's really cool. Like, there's so few of those that like, refuse to go public. And why do they need to? They're rolling in profits, right? Like, they don't, they don't need the liquidity of the markets. They don't have investors that they need to pull off. I couldn't find if there was like, some angel investors early on, that there probably was something. I don't know if they own literally a hundred percent, but it is, uh, it seems like it's either a hundred percent or close to it in terms of their ownership, which I think is, is kind of insane.

• 41:51Sam Parr?

  He also does a few other things. So if I remember correctly, I might get some of the details wrong, but I think that he's the day you start working there. I believe he like even like as a, I think this is like as a cashier, not just like H two B as like a retail worker. I think he buys you the book, um, how to win friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie. Because he said that when he, I don't know, he is, I think he might be an immigrant, but his parents were for sure immigrant and he was like trying to figure out how to like assimilate and how to like be more likeable and charismatic. So he could like, uh, get along with Americans. And he read how to win friends and influence people and it like changed his life. Uh, I also think he read like thinking grow rich. And so he like gives people these books and he also

• 42:35Sam Parr?

  sponsors tons of his employees to go to Tony Robbins stuff. So he's like all about this like self-help stuff, which is cool.

• 42:42Shaan Puri?

  We got a bunch of common.

• 42:44Sam Parr?

  We have a bunch of common and he likes that for his employees. And so I think if I, if I had to guess, when you get to be the size of a hundred million pounds of orange chicken, you're no longer like a product company or just like a restaurant company. You're a collecting people and making sure that they all behave in a very particular type of way as well as like a logistics company. And so in terms of like, you know, like there's a reason why McDonald, whenever they know something, it's like, oh, that's this huge announcement just because you have a McRibs like dude, because they have to go and like, get like, uh, you know, 500 pounds of pork in order to like make this. It's like a huge ordeal. But in terms of treating his people well and like collecting people and he like invest, I heard, uh, uh, into them a whole lot.

• 43:25Sam Parr?

  So he's kind of like a really interesting guy. I don't know if this is like PR spun stuff where all, uh, you know, he looks great all the time, uh, just from the outside, but he seems like he does a lot of really good, good stuff.

• 43:38Shaan Puri?

  There's a, I, I just asked chat GPT for some fun facts. I said, give me some, some fun anecdotes about them. And they said, the thing about the, the books says he buys, uh, thousands of copies of, uh, of his favorite books. One is like awakening the Buddha within and gives it to his employees. Another thing that it says is according to Forbes article. Staff members often start the day with affirmations like, people are depending on me to be at my best. I believe in myself and my abilities. Opportunities are everywhere.

• 44:08Shaan Puri?

  I don't know if that's, that's truly how they start their day, but it's a hell of a lot better than just saying the pledge of allegiance. I think we should put this in schools.

• 44:18Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, 2,000 plus stores as a kind of family owned private and non-franchised out business is mind boggling level of scale to reach.

• 44:30Sam Parr?

  He also-

• 44:31Shaan Puri?

  And it's him and his wife Peggy that just like still kind of like own the thing.

• 44:35Sam Parr?

  And he does the total opposite of what you just said before. He moved to Nevada. He now lives in the background because he's making so much income. But yeah, I know that he, I think Nevada's now, it was like a big deal when he left California into Nevada. That's his, that's his home state now.

• 44:49Shaan Puri?

  My thing is about tech entrepreneurs. If you're, if you are gonna build a Silicon Valley style venture startup, this, this is the place to be for that. I'm not saying everybody in the world should live in California. If you're, if you're, if you're slinging a hundred million pounds of orange chicken, you live wherever the hell you want. That's, that's rule number three.

• 45:07Sam Parr?

  I want you to tell me, we're gonna move into the last section here. I want you to tell me, you got a little ambitious here. You titled this section, famous people who are back with new companies. I don't want to call them famous, maybe-

• 45:20Shaan Puri?

  Notable?

• 45:20Sam Parr?

  Somewhat popular. Notable. Notable. Notable is a better one. Let's do notable. Tell me what you got.

• 45:26Shaan Puri?

  I don't know if you've seen this, but there's a few people who are well-known in our industry for, for a bunch of reasons that are doing interesting things. I want to get your quick reaction to each of them. So I don't know if you've seen all these, but, but we'll start with Naval. So Naval is kind of like the, I don't know, one of the godfathers of Silicon Valley. He's been here again since that kind of like- Pre dot com boom days, he did a startup that went public and then he famously got in a big dispute with a bunch of people about it. He created a blog that was called Venture Hacks and then him and his partner Nivea, they that became that eventually sort of led to Angel List, which is a multi-billion dollar startup. That's like LinkedIn for the tech industry.

• 46:08Shaan Puri?

  And he's known, he's got like, I don't know, a million plus followers on Twitter because very insightful guy. So Naval's awesome. He's got a new app.

• 46:15Sam Parr?

  He turned into like a, he's like a self-appointed guru, which is brilliant.

• 46:19Shaan Puri?

  I think he's actually the opposite. I think he's a non-self-appointed guru. I think other people appoint him a guru and he's like, that makes me a little uncomfortable, but I kind of like it.

• 46:28Sam Parr?

  He leaned, he leaned into it.

• 46:30Shaan Puri?

  He leaned into it hard. But I've, as somebody who's consumed, I think every word that Naval has said somehow, like I've watched all his live streams, his podcasts, all that stuff, right? Love his stuff. He many times will be like, people, you know, why don't people be like, why don't you do more or have your own things? And he's like, I don't want, I don't, I don't like this, playing this role of this guru thing. I don't like how much I like it. And I have to be very careful that I don't fall into that. I don't want that to be my life and my identity and get excited about, oh, I'm gonna, I'm just excited about learning this thing because I'm gonna go tell everybody about it. And then everybody's gonna think I'm so smart. He's like, no, I don't want that. I want to learn the thing because I like to learn it and that's it. And he's like,

• 47:13Shaan Puri?

  you know, he's like, I, you know, like, it's like junk food. When he's like, I get on here and I give random advice to people. It's my junk food. It's not what I want to be eating.

• 47:22Sam Parr?

  And people base their lives on it.

• 47:26Sam Parr?

  But it is far.

• 47:27Shaan Puri?

  Justin's got the Nvidia tattoo. I got the Naval tattoo on my arm.

• 47:32Sam Parr?

  Okay. So what's air chat thing?

• 47:33Shaan Puri?

  Have you seen it? Have you played with it?

• 47:36Sam Parr?

  Yeah. Isn't it just like a, a little bit, but is it, it almost felt like an AI friend? Is that what it is?

• 47:42Shaan Puri?

  No, not at all. So it's a app, it's like a social media app. So you open it up and there's these like rooms. And so you can go into a room that's like, it might be, people talk about AI and it's sort of like, it's audio, but it's recorded. So I could go on there and I could be like, you know, I was playing with this chat GPT thing. And one of the cool things that I've been doing is this. Has anybody tried anything that's blown their mind? That blew my mind. And then another person who follows me can just reply like, Uh, dudes, you're totally right. Here's what I did. And you're hearing their voice. It's like voice plus the transcription of it. So it's kind of like a, a way to have almost like a podcasty style thing where you're having a conversation, but it's, it's open, like anybody can kind of hop in that you allow into your room. And, um, and the conversation goes wherever it is, wherever it goes. So I had a little

• 48:26Shaan Puri?

  bit of like a dinner party in a way. And so there's like, for example, one of the rooms I liked was the guy, Nive telling the origin story of Angel List, which I had never heard before, but he was like, all right, I'm going to go back and I'm going to tell you the origin story of Angel List. And it's actually like not what I had thought. He's like, we had Venture, Venture Hacks, the blog, and that was kind of popular. And then I was like, uh, I was trying to figure out what to do. Like, how do we turn this into a business? And so I emailed Naval, Naval had owned 10% of it. And I was like, all right, Naval, uh, hey, I don't know what you think about this, but like, I'm thinking about selling this PDF. Like, okay, Venture Hacks is a free blog, but then here's this PDF. Like, we were joking about like the webinar thing. It's like, dude, even some of these awesome people did it. And he's like, I'm gonna sell this PDF that will, uh, like, just give people like templates.

• 49:10Shaan Puri?

  And Naval's like, okay, that's cool. Um, you know, for my 10%, just keep it with how this, this, like, this awesome PDF thing you're gonna try to do. Like, go ahead and hold on to my 10%. I, I don't need it. You need it more than I do. And then he's like, he's like, then we were driving home from some events, uh, after I had told him about the PDF thing. I was like, ready to go do that. And Naval had this like, I, you know, like, we were shooting the shit and we had this idea like, oh, you know what I really want is like, I want a list of investors and just what they invest in, what check size. Cause people are always asking us, dude, the Venture Hacks, like, hey, do you know any investors that would invest in my startup? He's like, I just want a list that I can refer to as like, here's all the investors I know. Here's what they invest in, and here's a check size. So when someone

• 49:54Shaan Puri?

  asks for an intro, I can go look at the list and make the intro. And then maybe he's like, yeah, that's cool. I don't think that's a business. Like, it's gonna, that's gonna make less money than my PDF, but like, you're right. That would be really useful for us. So he's like, so I went home that night. He's like, I made a form and I emailed it out to every investor I know that was like, yo, what do you invest in? Um, what's your average check size? And what's your email address? And like, you know, are you open to people contacting you about, like, for introductions for deals? He's like, and I sent it to people and they immediately filled it in. It was the ugliest form. I didn't even pay for the premium. He's like, just a reminder that like, You know, you just need to start, you need to get it out there and get momentum going.

• 50:33Shaan Puri?

  And he's like, now, um, I, I, with any project, if I can't like launch some version of it in the first 24 hours, it like, kind of like, it bothers me a lot. Like, I don't really want to do projects where I can't do that. He's like, so that was the first, that was V1 of Angel List. We got this, these people back and then we put it on a, we put it on our website. And then we like, got some like press coverage because it was like, oh, here's a list of all the angels. And then it was like, all their emails were there. So that was bad. So we had to take that off and then hide their emails because people were just getting spamming them. He's like, and then that became like the precursor to what Angel List was, which is now this like multi-billion dollar company was like just this list of angel investors. And that was the simplest, like useful thing. And he's like, uh, and so he's telling the story in the air chat and he's like,

• 51:18Shaan Puri?

  if you guys want, by the way, like, I could tell you the two other ideas that we like, you know, two other paths that we looked at that like turned out to not be, not be good ideas. But, um, you know, let me know. And then you could see that this, now I'm like, oh great, I'm going to follow along. I kind of want to hear this oral history of Angel List. And so it's, it's cool in that way, right? Like it's a, it's a cool new app. So he's coming out with this and he's like, I'm a co-founder of this. And the other guy, I think who's behind it is that guy Brian Norgard. I don't know how he says last name exactly.

• 51:46Sam Parr?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:47Shaan Puri?

  Who's kind of like well-respected in the tech scene, uh, as like a product guy, product designer guy.

• 51:52Sam Parr?

  Didn't he like work at Tinder or something?

• 51:54Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. He basically like, he started a couple of things that like, had a bunch of hype, but didn't fully pan out, but were cool products, like didn't work, but were cool. And then ended up like, had a product at like the match group or something like that at IAC. And so then he like ran Tinder.

• 52:10Shaan Puri?

  And now he's like doing this, I guess. So that's kind of like one, one app. So give me your, I don't, you haven't played with it. So it's hard to get your quick reaction.

• 52:16Sam Parr?

  Well, I, yeah, you gotta like set up a waitlist. That's cool.

• 52:21Sam Parr?

  Rub it in. Do you think that, uh, do you think that this is gonna be like a thing?

• 52:27Shaan Puri?

  I do not. So I, I think it's gonna be, it's actually reminds me a lot of Clubhouse.

• 52:36Shaan Puri?

  In that early on, Clubhouse was awesome. What is awesome because it was such a curated community and it was like, they brute forced only dope people onto the platform because that's who their friend group was. And so early on with Clubhouse, you would go into any room and it'd be like, super interesting conversation. You could just hop in and meet people and you could build, and I told my friend this, there was a guy who used to work for me, Jason. And I was like, Jason, he was still at Twitch after he got acquired and kind of like, you know, spinning his wheels a little bit. And I go, Jason, you should just forget about Twitch. I said, every night you should go on Clubhouse and hang out there for like five hours. You will build like the best network in Silicon Valley in the next two months. If you just do that. Cause I was like, you're an awesome talker.

• 53:17Shaan Puri?

  People love you when they meet you, but it's just hard to go meet like the power players. Clubhouse is this place where all the power players are hanging out and they want to be talking to randos because that's what Clubhouse is. And that they're excited about Clubhouse, therefore they're excited about talking to randos. I was like, you can go in there and go from rando to friend in like two months. And he did exactly that. He went in there, he started hanging out and he built this awesome friend group. They still hang out in real life today. He ended up raising a fund out of that group of people like, dude, you seem like you know a lot about crypto. Like, could you invest some of my money in crypto? And he's like, uh, I don't know. And ended up raising like a few million dollar fund, invested it, made these guys money, triple, I think he doubled or tripled their money and paid it all back and gave, stopped the fund within like a year, which is like

• 54:00Shaan Puri?

  incredible. And, um, yeah, he just like had this awesome networking experience. So to me, air chats like that right now. You go in there, everybody's smart and awesome and like the who's who of, of the tech world. And so it's great for me as a user right now. I don't think it'll stick like that. And I also don't think it'll catch on to be a mainstream social media thing because for one reason, audio is too slow.

• 54:24Shaan Puri?

  People can like scroll and read, I don't know, some crazy like three or five times faster than audio. And so there is, uh, it's too slow. Any social media, you're now competing with TikTok. It's like, how do you compete with the entertainment per second that you get rate that you get from an Instagram or TikTok or even a Twitter? It's all short form, bite sized, just instant dopamine hits. And it's like podcasts, it's very hard to compete with that. It'll never be as like, you know, billions of people are just opening this thing up all the time because audio is too slow and you get too few like hits of awesomeness per, uh, per minute that you compare to your other options, your other buttons on your phone. So that's why I don't think it'll become like a mainstream thing.

• 55:09Sam Parr?

  Tell me about this tradie thing.

• 55:11Shaan Puri?

  Okay. So Dom, who was the founder of fast.com, which was a funny story.

• 55:17Sam Parr?

  What's the 30, what's the 30 second story of fast?

• 55:20Shaan Puri?

  30 second story fast. Guy gets his domain fast.com, comes out with the crazy hype on Twitter of just fast is going to be the, like the next big thing. It's one click instant checkout. What Amazon did with one click checkout, we're going to do for the rest of the internet. And they're just pumping on Twitter, how fast it's going to be awesome. They raise a bunch of money at a huge valuation. They're bragging about

• 55:41Sam Parr?

  Hundreds of millions, right?

• 55:42Shaan Puri?

  Hundreds of millions, yeah. Pre-launch, uh, pre, pre-traction, basically. And a few of us were kind of like, I don't know, man. I'm not sure. Like where's your customers? Why, what's going on? And, uh, sure enough, the bubble pops. Uh, people sort of realize that fast.com has basically no traction. It had like, I don't know, like tens of thousands in revenue, as it had like, you know, almost a billion dollar valuation. And, uh, the product doesn't really work that great. The team is like, whatever. It all just falls apart. I don't remember the exact details of how it fell apart, like, but it fell apart. They were burning, I think $10 million a month of investor money at one point, something like that, between three and 10 million. I don't remember the exact numbers,

• 56:25Shaan Puri?

  but they were burning an absurd amount of money. He couldn't raise anymore because they had no track, no traction. At a certain point, the investors want to see traction. And so fast just combusts. And then it comes out that, oh, this guy Dom previously had built a company in Australia called tow.com. That was supposed to be Uber for towing your car and tow truck drivers. And basically like that company also had a dope domain toe.com.au and raised money. It got a bunch of press. Got sub users, but not a lot ran up a bill that he couldn't pay like a $13 million bill or something like that. He's getting sued for by the government there because like towing contracts that he couldn't fulfill.

• 57:08Shaan Puri?

  And ended up just like leaving Australia and like starting like, you know, he used to be Dominic Holland and he rebranded as Dom in the U S. And, and, and did fast.com. So it's kind of like, okay, this guy's track record. So now he's got tradie.com, another quick domain name. Have you seen this thing tradie like?

• 57:26Sam Parr?

  Yes.

• 57:26Shaan Puri?

  Tradesman.

• 57:27Sam Parr?

  And yeah, and so explain what it is and I'll tell you what I heard about it.

• 57:30Shaan Puri?

  So it kind of on the surface, like most of Dom's ideas, it sounds kind of like a good idea. So it says the fastest way to grow your trade business. And he just shows a bunch of like, you know, blue collar types. So this guy does like landscaping. This guy's got like a tractor. And it's like, hey, we give you a website. We let you do your customers book you and pay for you online. We give you easy way to do invoicing. You know, if you're a professional, you know, trades person, you should be using tradie. That's that. That's the pitch. It's not a bad pitch. I think it's a good idea. Now tell, tell what you heard about it because I think we heard the same thing.

• 58:06Sam Parr?

  So here I'll read it. So someone tweeted, they go, looking at tradie.com.

• 58:11Sam Parr?

  So far 80% of the businesses I've contacted from the site, meaning there's a bunch of businesses that were listed as testimonials.

• 58:18Shaan Puri?

  So I think he said, it looks like Dom's at it again, right? That's the frame.

• 58:23Sam Parr?

  Yeah. He goes, he goes, he does it again. He goes 80% of the companies that contacted from the site don't seem to be real. They're shell companies with fake Yelp and Google listings and 90% of them didn't poke up, didn't pick up the phone. Tradie said, one tradie made their landing page without permit. Oh, one person who was listed on the website said that tradie made the landing page without that company's permission. And two so far seem to actually be using the product, but tradie is giving it to them for free and sponsoring them. And then he shows like all the domain names that the same LLC that owns tradie has also bought all these other domain names that were listed on the website of tradie.com.

• 59:06Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, this is guy, Justin Mitchell, J Mitch is the guy who. Who tweeted this out? And so, uh, so yeah, like straight off the bat. And now, by the way, I think all those are gone from the tradie website. So.

• 59:21Sam Parr?

  So with that, and again, my takeaway is run. Not, not touching this thing.

• 59:26Shaan Puri?

  Instant reaction.

• 59:27Sam Parr?

  All right. And the next two, Tip Top and Bay Area Times.

• 59:31Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, let's skip that one. Let's do the Pomp one. So, uh, Pomp, friend of the pod, is doing something interesting. I don't know the full story. I haven't talked to him about this. Have you talked to him about this Bay Area Times thing?

• 59:41Sam Parr?

  No, not yet.

• 59:42Shaan Puri?

  Do you know what?

• 59:42Sam Parr?

  I didn't even know about it. I don't even know what it is.

• 59:44Shaan Puri?

  Okay, so, uh, go to bayareatimes.com. It looks like.

• 59:48Sam Parr?

  So Pomp is famous for, he was one of the early guys who was very vocal about crypto. He started a podcast, YouTube channel, and now he's a whole personality. He's pivoted away a little bit from crypto. So now he's just talking about business, but also a little bit of politics and sports and all types of stuff.

• 1:00:05Shaan Puri?

  His kind of relaunch I want to talk to you about, which is basically like, how do you think that's going and gonna go? So he was the Bitcoin bull. He, he, he popped off in terms of, uh, he's, he's built his audience around Bitcoin and saying how amazing crypto is. And then people will note, like, you know, they kind of like the, the crypto kind of haters basically will be like, dude, look at this. He removed the red laser eyes. He removed, I'll mention of Bitcoin from his bio. Um, and now like, he hosted a real estate conference the other day. He's, uh, hosting like, you know, startup events, um, you know, just like normal startup things. He's doing this, like his media stuff is not about crypto anymore. And so, you know, I think he's diversifying and kind of shifting away from.

• 1:00:45Sam Parr?

  I think it's working really well, too.

• 1:00:47Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. And like, I, I would just say this, I think for most people, it's a very hard transition. I would not want to bet against Pomp. I think he is a very formidable, smart person who is going to be successful in whatever he chooses to be successful at. And I think he's chosen. I'd like to build my hold co to be about these, these things instead of just this one. And I think it's a very hard pivot to make and he's making it very well. He's doing it very well so far from what I can tell.

• 1:01:16Sam Parr?

  So basically he owns, right now he owns, I think he owns an executive recruiting company, a research company.

• 1:01:25Shaan Puri?

  Job board.

• 1:01:26Sam Parr?

  What else? A job, like, yeah, a job board.

• 1:01:29Shaan Puri?

  And like a course that trains you to get jobs in crypto.

• 1:01:32Sam Parr?

  And then what, and then maybe like two more.

• 1:01:33Shaan Puri?

  His media company. That are all, and then I think he's investing beyond that. So here's what he said. He goes, introducing the Bay Area Times. This is a new product that uses data and visuals to analyze what's happening across business, finance and tech on a daily basis. So you can go to bayareatimes.com and he basically says narratives dominate the headlines on other platforms. Writers spend paragraphs regurgitating the same points over and over again. These products take too long to read. They bury the data deep in the paragraphs and it's hard to recall the information. But what if you just want cold, hard facts? What if you want to see the data in a single chart? What if you don't have 10 minutes to read every morning? That's what we built this for. So every morning they send out an email that's got five big stories. It's got a visual, which is like a chart or a graph along with a few bullet points, no hidden agenda, no trace of facts, no bias narrative.

• 1:02:17Shaan Puri?

  That's his claim. He says he's been testing this with 20,000 readers and the feedback's been phenomenal.

• 1:02:23Shaan Puri?

  Go for it, right? And so you could see, it looks like it's built on Substack.

• 1:02:27Sam Parr?

  Beehive.

• 1:02:28Shaan Puri?

  Oh yeah. Sorry. This is, oh yeah, this is Beehive. So let me go to the first one. All right. So like the one that he sent out three days ago, it's basically, here's the data. It's like, what's going on in the stock market? What's going on with Bitcoin, gold, Ethereum, et cetera. And then it'll be like, uh, here's a chart on life expectancy. And it says life expectancy has been stagnant for the past 20 years after the COVID drop. It's at 77 years old, which is the same level as 2003, right? So that's like the one big chart and then they put bullet points underneath it.

• 1:02:58Sam Parr?

  So he's basically using visuals to, and data to explain what's going on in the news. I think it's cool. I think the worst case scenario here for him is that this makes like two or three million dollars a year. And it's a very, very profitable. The best case it becomes hustle, morning brew, whatever. It gets millions of subscribers and makes tens of millions. You're however much more. Um, I think it's cool. What do you think?

• 1:03:19Shaan Puri?

  I kind of wish this was an actual printed thing.

• 1:03:24Shaan Puri?

  I like people that are going into like newspapers and magazines right now. I think those are very interesting.

• 1:03:29Sam Parr?

  So there's Agora, the newsletter company I always talk about. They would say that they would charge like two grand a year and they would send you like a newsletter, but it was a financial newsletter, except when they say newsletter, they would literally mail it to you and they still do that. And it was just printed on like printer paper. And it was kind of cool for that reason.

• 1:03:47Shaan Puri?

  Right.

• 1:03:48Sam Parr?

  And I actually agree with you. I think that could be cool where you just like literally mail someone and it comes in like one of those tan envelopes and it looks like it's almost like, uh, here's like the, here's like, um, like, uh, I think the president every day gets like a briefing.

• 1:04:02Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:03Sam Parr?

  It's like a presidential briefing where it's like, here's what you need to know. And like oftentimes I'm like, just a piece of paper, like just give me that, but at my house.

• 1:04:09Shaan Puri?

  Totally.

• 1:04:10Sam Parr?

  And I actually do think that would be cool.

• 1:04:11Shaan Puri?

  Did we talk about this jumbo mail marketing thing?

• 1:04:14Sam Parr?

  What's that?

• 1:04:15Shaan Puri?

  So I saw this on Twitter, it's pretty cool. So basically, um, they, they go, the, the tagline is this. Have you ever received a package in the mail and thrown it away without opening it? Neither have we. Basically they're like 90% of people, 90 plus percent of people who receive like a stuffed envelope, like a stuffed package will rip the thing off and open it. So if you go to, um, the Twitter is at Mail Jumbo. It's basically the, the icon's this elephant. And it goes, we create jumbo chunky mail that's guaranteed to reach your audience. It's good for real estate investors, home services and business buyers. And basically that, what they do is like, you, they just do direct mail, like, kind of like, you know,

• 1:04:58Shaan Puri?

  here, oh, we got a bunch of, uh, you know, like spam in the mail, like, oh, whatever. We want to buy your business or we're a real estate agent, whatever. But they do it in these jumbo packages just to increase your response rate. So they're like, yeah, it costs more, but you're actually going to get more people to, to read your thing. And I thought this is like a brilliant, simple, like side hustle style business that I think also will. We'll get to, you know, mid seven figures in revenue and be a profitable bootstrap business of just jumbo mail marketing.

• 1:05:27Sam Parr?

  There's this guy named Sam Ovens who we've talked about, but like 10 years ago, he had this course called consulting.com and he would teach you how to become a consultant, whether it's like how to do SEO for companies. I don't know what services the consultant would do, but he would teach you how to start a consultancy business. And he has one big thing that he, I don't know if he says he invented it, but he goes, this is like my shtick is I do this thing called lumpy mail where I send just a normal envelope, but I put something lumpy in it. Like, I forget what he would put, but like a figurine or a pen, I forget whatever it was, but it would make it feel like the envelope had a little bit of weight to it. And he goes, the reason I do that is because when lumpy mail gets opened way more and I can get your attention way more. And so what these guys are doing, he used to call it lumpy. They're calling it jovo. I thought that they like learned about it from him.

• 1:06:12Sam Parr?

  But, and he claims that it was amazing.

• 1:06:14Shaan Puri?

  Well, the guy who's behind it, one of the guys is behind it, is the same guy that does, is the mobile home, mobile home park guy on Twitter, who also does like nine other businesses and is like completely, he's like if somebody downloaded the podcast into their brain and then their brain said, let's do all of them. He's just taking, he's doing like nine ideas at once at all times. He's kind of a madman, but this is one of his ideas. And he did it because when he was trying to buy businesses, like I think like the mobile home, like buy these mobile parks, mobile home parks, he needed to do mass outreach and he wanted to increase his response rate of, are they actually even seeing my, my offer or that I want to buy their, their, their business? And how do I get them to reply? And so I think this was part of the, the inspiration for that.

• 1:07:01Sam Parr?

  I think we should wrap up here, but as, before we do, I want to give you kudos. You said something last pod that was very funny, that totally flew under the, under the radar. And if you made it this far, 60 minutes in, I'm going to give you a piece of gold that you can go, this joke that you're going to tell your friends. We said something about like breaking up with someone, maybe it was like breaking up with the business really, relationship. I don't remember. But I said something like, it's not you, it's me. And you said, yeah, it's not you, it's me in that I think you're horrible.

• 1:07:33Sam Parr?

  And I regurgitated that joke this weekend.

• 1:07:37Shaan Puri?

  Killed it.

• 1:07:37Sam Parr?

  The rea- the rea- they loved it. I looked so funny. It was such a, you said that line and it totally like went under the radar. It's like, look, it's not you, it's me. And that, I think you're the worst.

• 1:07:51Sam Parr?

  So that is like a free joke. I have just given you something.

• 1:07:54Shaan Puri?

  All right.

• 1:07:54Sam Parr?

  I've given you the listener something.

• 1:07:56Shaan Puri?

  What do they give us when we give them something, right? Nobody just takes, right? You don't want to be a taker. That would be.

• 1:08:01Sam Parr?

  Yes, that would go against our agreement that we have with our listeners. I've just given you something. Shaw gave you something that I now gifted to you. Now I want you to go to our YouTube page and our, I always call it the iTunes page and that just shows how old I am. I don't know what the podcast app, like the Apple podcast app. Go to both of them and click subscribe because if you've listened to this, we've given you that.

• 1:08:25Shaan Puri?

  By the way, drop comments on the YouTube. That is now my favorite part of the podcast. Because we did this for two years with no YouTube and there's no feedback loop. You don't get any comments on the podcast app. But on YouTube, people leave comments and now we get, I don't know, I don't know how many of these, like maybe 30, 40 comments per, per video. I love, I read every single one of them every single time, like no joke, because it's like my only way to kind of like interact.

• 1:08:51Sam Parr?

  Dude, they're all saying, they're all saying you look ripped now.

• 1:08:55Shaan Puri?

  I do like that part of the comments, not gonna lie. That is a good, good feeling. They're like, wow. But it's also one of those like, what do, what do you call it? I had a before before and now I'm a before photo.

• 1:09:06Sam Parr?

  You had, you had a way before picture, yes.

• 1:09:09Shaan Puri?

  I used to be the way before and now I'm just the before and I think people recognize that. I appreciate them for that.

• 1:09:15Sam Parr?

  You can see, you definitely have some, some, you got some set definition, bicep, triceps, you got the seps.

• 1:09:23Shaan Puri?

  I got sepsis over here.

• 1:09:27Shaan Puri?

  But I'm gonna start commenting back to anybody that says something interesting and and to that spammer out there that keeps trying to trick all of our people into a WhatsApp group. I'm hunting you. I'm coming for you because the YouTube algorithm can't get you. I will get you. I will find you.

• 1:09:43Sam Parr?

  It's hard.

• 1:09:43Shaan Puri?

  I have a unique set of skills that have prepared me for this moment to find you on every single video and remove your comments.

• 1:09:50Sam Parr?

  Yeah, 10 years of Googling has prepared you to reverse image search and figure out where they've made their mistake. All right, that's the pod. We'll see you all soon.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  I feel like I can rule the world, I know I could be what I want to. I put my all in it like my days off. On the road, let's travel, never looking back.