Trump & Putin Meet In Alaska, Melania's Epstein Lawsuit & Netanyahu TROLLS Iran | PBD Podcast | Ep. 630

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Trump’s high-stakes meeting with Vladimir Putin, Melania Trump’s shocking lawsuit over being falsely tied to Jeffrey Epstein, and Netanyahu’s offer to Iran. ------ 🧢 VT SUMMER HAT COLLECTION: GET A FREE VT STICKER COLLECTION WITH THE PURCHASE OF ANY ITEM: https://bit.ly/4mCcpb4 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your plan? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:17Speaker 03

  You are a one of one?

• 1:17Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  I think I've ever said this before.

• 1:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey guys, are you on time? Are you guys here? Because it's 8:59, episode 629. Wake up. It's great to be with And we did it on purpose. All the people that are with us here on time on Friday. This is the first week we've done Monday, Wednesday, Friday, as well as the Bustamante podcast. And I'm loving it, Pat. I'm loving it. Adam's love life is taking a hit because Adam, the McDonald's guy. Adam doesn't like Mondays, doesn't like Fridays. He likes it to be in the in between because Monday he has to sleep in and Fridays he has to prepare for the weekend, but we're gonna make it work. Listen, we all have our priorities. All right, let's go through some of the stories that we got. Trump is apparently on his way to Alaska, six, seven hour flight. And he said that if it goes good, they're gonna do a press conference together.

• 2:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Not a press conference, but what did he call it? A A press briefing. Press briefing together with him and Putin. If it doesn't, it's just gonna be Trump by himself. I love how last minute he just kind of puts that onus on Putin to say, let's see. The world's gonna know if this deal is gonna go good or not. But he's definitely on his way to Alaska and Putin is On his way to Alaska if he's not already there yet. Few items we're gonna cover today. One, why Americans are rethinking alcohol? According to a new Gallup poll, all time low. The 90 days that they've been tracking this, this the lowest America's ever been when it comes on to drinking alcohol. Why? We'll talk about that. They're obviously not watching the news.

• 2:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Putin hauls Trump's energetic and sincere efforts to end Ukraine war. If you remember what the Mexico president said a few days ago when Trump wanted to go out there and, you know, handle certain cartel members. Mexico changed their position very quickly. They sent 26 cartel members to US and deal with Trump administration. What happened, Mexico president? I thought you were tough. I thought you said, no, nobody can do this. Now you give Trump what he wanted. Netanyahu offers Iran water. In the crisis, help if regime removed the mid shortage. So what a noble guy Netanyahu is to give Iran water. Can you, Adam, Vinny was sentimental this morning. He was so emotional that even Vinny brought some water to give to Netanyahu to give to Iran. From Fiji. Have a sip of my tea.

• 3:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Very, very, we're gonna talk about that. California city approves $100,000 of fund to help migrants pay rent. These cities you hear about LA and, you know, New York. Trump touts tax relief for vast majority of seniors on social security is 98 anniversary. I have an idea for social security and most people are not gonna like it. I'm not gonna make any new friends today, so, but we're gonna talk about it. So for some of you that are receiving social security, that may not like what I have to say, you may wanna do earmuffs or maybe just take a break from today's podcast and come back next Monday because of what ideas I have on social security. You ain't gonna like it, but I'm gonna give it to you anyways.

• 4:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Next, Trump told Zelensky and allies he won't discuss territory divisions with Putin this week. He agreed that Ukraine can only negotiate territorial concessions. Macron says. Then we have New Jersey parents applaud new law that could send them to prison for their children's crimes. You get to get parents involved. You gotta get parents involved. I think it was a middle-class residents of Demran city say they're trapped in unsellable homes surrounded by drug markets. And fewer Americans say they don't trust federal government. They don't trust. Fewer Americans say they don't. Uh, meaning they trust, right, Rob? The way it's written, it's a.

• 5:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's fun with headline and I can't wait to get after it. That's the hill for you. That's the hill for you. So. Can you guess how many retiree with, how many retire with $5 million? Here's a hint. Almost no one. Okay? So they're gonna talk about how many people retire with $5 million bucks. Adam and Tom have thoughts on this story. Fed expected a stick with regular size rate cuts after hot inflation data. Joe Rogan rips ice rates. Great. You're going to get rid of the landscaper? That's what Joe Rogan said. Melania Trump threatens to sue Hunter Biden for a billion dollars over false defamatory allegations linking her to Jeffrey Epstein's report. And Hunter Biden responded with his buddy Callahan.

• 5:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And you have to see it. What do you have to see? Uh, Bill Maher, we didn't cover the story, but we're gonna cover today. The View co-hosts are the best advertisement. Aren't the best advertisement for women in blunt criticism. Not he had a blunt, but it was in blunt criticism, like he was, he was being blunt about it. Probably also had a blunt. Could have been both, right? Tom, cue your noise. Stock, close, mixed.

• 6:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Stock, close, mixed after hot PPI report. Adam, if you know what noise. Okay, Reverend Sharpton slams Trump targeting cities with black mayors. It's race baiting. And who was Kevin Watson, Chicago man fatally shot on Facebook livestream. Video goes viral. I said, we're not gonna show the video. No, you don't, you just hear it, but I mean, I think it's worth showing how the mayor of Chicago. When we get to it, we'll just kinda be cautious about it as we're going through that part. Uh, gang, a couple of things that we have, uh, for, for every once in a while, we get new things that come up for summer. Summer hats are here. And I want to show you this with the summer hats that we have. They're not that many. We didn't order hundreds of them.

• 6:56Patrick Bet-David?

  It's this very limited supply for someone. We're just simply testing it out. The first one is the splat print. If you look at it, it's pretty sick. Can you change your pictures on that, Rob? There's not that many of these. We're simply ordering these to see how you like. And then we may do bigger supply. It's a new future looks bright design on the back of it. It's actually pretty sick on the bottom of as well. Then this next one, the black one is not gonna last, although I think the next, these two are gonna be competing. Look at this one here, by the way, with the front logo. Real cool on the way this black one looks. With the orange on the bottom, the future looks bright on the back. And the last but not least, this the white one. With gold, future looks bright, future looks bright uh uh on the back, on the bottom. And an American flag in Valuetainment. Just, Davini, this one looks sick.

• 7:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely, look at how this one looks. This one looks absolutely sick. And uh, so they're out now, gang. Go place an order. When you do place an order. A gift comes with it as well for the first hundred people that place the order. But uh, those are the new hats that came in on Valuetainment. Summertime, go represent future looks bright gear. They just came out this week. Sounds good. Alright, let's get right into it. Story.

• 8:06Patrick Bet-David?

  The first story I want to get into is um. When we're looking at everything, Rob, which one was the story that people said to go with? Uh, can you tell me on the, on the chart?

• 8:13Speaker 05

  Uh, yes, out of uh, all of the voting in the poll, uh, number one story, Trump meets Putin in Alaska.

• 8:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's go to Trump meets Putin in Alaska. So. Putin hails Trump energetic and sincere effort to end Ukraine war. Rob, if you have that video there. And and by the way, something very weird just came out from Hillary Clinton about Trump and Ukraine. But before I show you this clip, that clip. Watch this right here. This is Putin. Go for it.

• 8:41Speaker 06

  Tonight, on the eve of their high-stakes summit in Alaska, Russian President Vladimir Putin trying to lay the groundwork, heaping praise on President Trump.

• 8:52Speaker 06

  Putin saying the current American administration is making quite energetic and sincere efforts to stop the hostilities, stop the crisis, and reach agreements that are of interest to all parties involved in this conflict.

• 9:06Speaker 06

  Putin saying Trump wants to create long-term conditions for peace, both between our countries and in Europe and in the world. But the Russian leader saying he has other goals from this meeting that go beyond the war in Ukraine. That he wants to discuss nuclear arms control. The Kremlin saying trade and economic cooperation will also be on the agenda. Trump today not ruling out those conversations, but saying his focus is on ending the war.

• 9:32Speaker 07

  I think that President Putin would like to see a deal. I think if I weren't president, he would take over all of Ukraine. But I am president, and he's not going to mess around with me.

• 9:41Speaker 06

  But Ukrainian President Zelensky, who won't be in the room, says Putin is bluffing. And today, Trump admitting he thinks there's a 25% chance this summit will fail. But if it doesn't, Trump says he wants to quickly bring Putin and Zelensky together for another meeting, even saying Zelensky could join them.

• 10:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, that's where it ended.

• 10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, sounds good. So when you're seeing this 25% chance, Zelensky saying he's bluffing, Putin's coming in, he's saying, hey, Trump seems very energetic about wanting to make a deal. And then Trump makes a promise, and he told Zelensky and allies that he won't discuss territory divisions with Putin this week, and that he agreed that only Ukraine can negotiate territorial concessions this week. So, Tom, your thoughts on this story here?

• 10:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, this is the right body language from Putin. Because if you take a look at the Trump wins on tariffs and other things around the world, clearly Trump's gaining momentum, and Putin knows this. Putin pays attention to this. Says, "Vinnie, when you take a look at something like that, you can clearly see that Putin is not agreeing to anything, but he's saying, I think it's very sincere, very energetic, what he's doing." And then they go on to talk about territory, where Trump talked to European leaders and said, "Hey, only Ukraine can be at the table for the final word on negotiating its territory."

• 11:10Tom Ellsworth?

  And Trump is telling Zelensky, "Hey, we're not going to discuss territory division with Putin this week." However, then we find out, it comes out the other way, that says Russia and the United States had discussed a model independently like the West Bank. Now, you have to remember what happened with the West Bank and what happened with Sinai Peninsula. When Egypt came across the canal...

• 11:34Tom Ellsworth?

  And the Suez Canal and attacked Israel from the southwest. After Israel pushed them back, they actually pushed them all the way back into the canal and back over. And then they took it and they told the UN, we're not leaving. We don't trust these guys and so we want this permanent buffer and we're taking their damn land. And we're making a permanent buffer between us and Egypt. Deal with it. And that's kind of, and so now the US and Russia are talking about, well, what if there's kind of like this zone? And by the way, there's no weapons and supposedly there's no militarized people in the zone. There are the Egyptian side of the zone and the Israeli side of the zone. And if you really want to know about this, you can go read the book Getting DS.

• 12:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's a great book and it's got the case study on how they negotiated this. Which is very interesting that this exactly what the US and Russia are talking about. Maybe we make a permanent buffer here like the DMZ in Korea. Now, some people are going to be jumping all over me right here. Now Russia took their land and now they're just trying to get it back. Well, look, we got to solve this thing somewhere. And you know, they made this, Ukraine did a huge drone attack last night. On the eve of them all trying to get together. So one of the things I think-

• 12:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have that video by the way of the drone attacks? There was a couple of them while you're, Tom, you're saying that. Rob, if you can pull it up.

• 12:49Tom Ellsworth?

  So I recap. Point one, it appears that good body language from Putin. You know, whether you agree with him or not, agree with him about the attacks and everything. Second, I think Trump's really behind the scenes trying to negotiate something. And the fact that the West Bank or the Sinai or even Korea DMZ comes up, says maybe we create a buffer that ends up working for everybody, may not like it. And then lastly, you know, we haven't seen Zelensky. It doesn't look like Zelensky is going to show up. It looks like this is truly going to be Trump and Putin.

• 13:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So the question here, is that it, Rob? That's one of the ones that was reported on and so-

• 13:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, this is the automated airplane. Is that crazy?

• 13:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so the drones they've built, by the way, we were talking about this the other day with Ukraine. Ukraine produces, Ukraine produces, I believe the number was, was it a, I don't know what the number was. It could have been a thousand drones a day, Rob. Can you check? How many drones Ukraine was producing?

• 13:46Adam Sosnick?

  And they were like 500 bucks a drone.

• 13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  For 500 dollars, they were blowing up 5 million dollar equipment.

• 13:51Adam Sosnick?

  That's an ROI right there.

• 13:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know that, what they were doing. But who in here is, yeah, that's right, right there, you see it? So they do, wow, that's unbelievable.

• 14:02Speaker 10

  Wow.

• 14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  4 million drones this year, 200,000 drones a month, and 6,700 drones a day is what they're producing. A day is what they're producing. So you simply put a bomb on it, send it to a bunch of different locations, to a smaller country, lesser, you know, not, inferior weapons, they're being a bigger pest to the enemy, that's a bigger behemoth with a ton of nuclear weapons that they have there. The question I got for you guys is this. Putin's saying the following. It seems like Trump is energetic and sincere about wanting to do Ukraine deal. Okay. So Zelensky says, I think he's bluffing. Okay? Trump says 75% chance, boom, 25% chance it's a bad meeting, I'm gonna do the whole thing myself.

• 14:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Who here needs who the most? And who is just fake actor, nothing's gonna get done? That's the question, Adam.

• 14:54Adam Sosnick?

  You're asking who needs who the most?

• 14:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, who wants this thing to be done the most? US, Putin, or Zelensky?

• 15:02Adam Sosnick?

  I think Trump wants this thing to be done. He's the one who said that he'll get this done before he's even, uh, taken office. Day one, so.

• 15:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, who doesn't want it to get done?

• 15:12Adam Sosnick?

  Zelensky. Everyone thinks it's Zelensky, I think it's Putin. Because Putin has the opportunity to stop this today. He clearly does not want to stop this.

• 15:23Adam Sosnick?

  It, it's shocking to me that people are so anti-Zelensky. So let's compartmentalize. Is Zelensky someone that we enjoy, that we like, that we want to hang out with, that we even want to back up? No, no, no, no, no. But who's actually the enemy? It's Putin. So, you know, you had the great interview with Andrew Bustamante yesterday, he was basically saying it's really a great return on investment to keep our enemies preoccupied.

• 15:53Adam Sosnick?

  The reason that we're not over there having boots on the ground, whether it's in Ukraine, whether it's in Gaza, whether it's potentially in China is let them do the dirty work. And it's basically saying, oh, like, I don't want to go to the restaurant. I don't want to have to go pick up the food. DoorDash that thing. Uber Eats that thing. Ukraine is our Uber Eats. We want to deal with Russia. We want to deal with their propaganda. We want to deal with their warfare. Let Ukraine deal with it. Everyone's can see, everyone used to be, Bernie Sanders is like, the millionaires, the millionaires. And then it turned into the billionaires, the billionaires. News for you. If it doesn't start with a T, with a trillion, and it starts with an M, million, it's really not that big of a deal when you're giving people money.

• 16:36Adam Sosnick?

  In my opinion, Putin wants to keep this war going. Zelensky is trying to just stay in power. He doesn't know what the hell he's doing. And Trump wants to make a deal. Final point. He said, in a press conference, press briefing with journalists, he said, I'll know within two minutes if we have a deal. Did you hear him say that? And reporter goes, well, well, how do you know that? He goes, excuse me. This is what I do. I make deals. This is what I do. I think there's a 1% chance of anything good happening. Trump laid the groundwork of 25% chance it will fail. I think it's a 99% chance that nothing happens from this. We'll see. Play the clip. Yeah.

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• 18:19Speaker 07

  ... meeting with Vladimir Putin. And at the end of that meeting, probably in the first two minutes, I'll know exactly whether or not a deal can be made.

• 18:28Adam Sosnick?

  How do you know?

• 18:29Speaker 07

  Because that's what I do.

• 18:30Adam Sosnick?

  Hello? I mean, it's so true. If you want to know what Trump is, this is what I do. I make deals.

• 18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're saying 99% chance nothing's going to happen? My opinion is different. Vinny, where are you at?

• 18:42Speaker 10

  Well, my thing, well, Adam, when you say that they're our enemy, what's, we're not at war with Russia. They're not our enemy. They're our adversary. I think China's a way bigger enemy.

• 18:51Adam Sosnick?

  Are we at war with China?

• 18:53Speaker 10

  Well, not a, not a shooting a gun war.

• 18:55Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so there's different types of wars.

• 18:57Speaker 10

  But when it comes to COVID and COVID and buying land and doing all that.

• 18:59Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with you. There's different types of wars.

• 19:01Speaker 10

  Oh, yeah, 100%. But with Russia?

• 19:03Adam Sosnick?

  You think we're just peaceful and friends with Russia?

• 19:05Speaker 10

  Not peaceful, but we've been poking the bear with them since the 90s. We told them, stop.

• 19:09Adam Sosnick?

  But it works both ways.

• 19:10Speaker 10

  No, I understand that. But when it comes to this situation, especially with this meeting, I think Trump is an alpha, huge alpha. So is Putin. They're going to be in a room, hopefully, with Zelensky. He's not even a beta, bro. He's not, he can't compare to these two. And then when you have all the warhawks, I'm hoping the Lindsey Grams and all the defense contracting people, Pat, probably weren't in his ear, which I'm pretty sure they're talking to him. And like, Zelensky, don't, there's no money if you just piece it up and we just stop right now. If you bow down, we're all going to lose money, you're going to lose your position, and you'll look weak. Okay? My hopes are that it happens, but the way that Zelensky is, Pat, with the attitude and coming in the White House, that type of attitude comes from people in your ear saying, hey, go in there and be a freaking tough guy. He's not a tough guy. He's an actor.

• 19:55Adam Sosnick?

  Who, who, can I ask you a question?

• 19:58Tom Ellsworth?

  To Pat's question, who do you think needs it more?

• 20:00Speaker 10

  Uh, Trump. Adam nailed it. Trump, just for, he said he was going to do it. He's a little bit delayed. But I think, uh... I think Zelensky, Zelensky neat, bro, listen, cuz you know what it is? Hundreds of thousands of people are dying, and guess what? With the drones aside, who, who he thinks is, who's lost more soldiers? Ukraine, Ukraine has, and they're running up to them and putting them in vans.

• 20:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so to me, eh eh, this is how I see it, and we can get to the next story, is a, a guy at the level of Putin, or Trump, they don't waste seven hours of their day going somewhere that they don't wanna do anything, and that's a one-way flight. On the way back, it's another seven hours for Trump. How long is the flight time for Putin, Rob?

• 20:41Speaker 10

  That's a good question.

• 20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Where Putin was going through.

• 20:43Speaker 10

  What do you mean? Russia is right next to Alaska, Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house. It's not that far.

• 20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  What I'm saying to you is neither one of them-

• 20:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Moscow is nine time zones wide-

• 20:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 20:53Tom Ellsworth?

  From the Pacific.

• 20:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So, what I'm saying to you is, this, this is not gonna be a meeting where guys are trying to, you know, waste their time going to a meeting like this. That's one, they're not gonna do it. So, there's a reason why they're doing this. There's not a waste of time. So there you go, eight hours and 20 minutes to Alaska. So you got, Putin's got 17 hours of flight time, Trump's got 14 hours of flight time. Neither one of them are doing this for the hell of it, because they need more publicity, and they wanna get cameras there.

• 21:21Speaker 10

  For sure.

• 21:22Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the world knows them, they don't need another million followers, or 100,000 followers, or 50 million views, they don't need that. But to me, in this, in this case, I think the way Zelensky and NATO did it, so NATO is telling Zelensky, "We have your back." He goes and meets with Starmer, he goes and meets with, Macron is speaking on his behalf. Macron comes out and says, "Uh, uh, Trump agreed, only Ukraine can negotiate territorial concessions." Macron says, so Macron is now speaking on behalf of Zelensky speak there, so, which means NATO is not for a deal at all. NATO is trying to tell Zelensky, "You don't have to give nothing, we have your back."

• 22:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what NATO is saying. And Trump in this section where he can throw a complete wrench inside the whole thing and is capable of doing that is, "Really? You guys all teamed up against me NATO? Really? That's what you want to do? No problem. I, the country that gives the most money, I'm agreeing to have Putin, Russia be a part of NATO. Go ahead and play that game." So I think there, there, there, Trump in his, Trump is showing this hand, which is three cards. Trump's got two cards and he's like, "Nobody knows what those two cards are, including Hacksat." No one knows it. And all of a sudden, he's gonna drop it. It's like that moment when Trump is standing next to Netanyahu.

• 22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And he says, "Yeah, we're excited about Gaza. We're gonna take over Gaza." We're gonna take over Gaza. And then Netanyahu looks at him like, "What?" "We didn't speak about this. You didn't agree to this here." So I think that's the surprise element of Trump that's coming here soon. What he's gonna say, who knows? But in this case, I think Putin needs this deal the most. I do think Trump wants it for different reasons. Legacy. But I think, I think Putin, honestly, if you think about it, Putin's been publicly humiliated. Zelensky's not been humiliated. Zelensky's been turned into a hero. Putin's been publicly humiliated because everybody thought, "Within 30 days, the war is gonna be done and Putin's gonna get what he wants." And that's not been the case. Yes, you're right.

• 23:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a black eye in front of, on that black guy. It's a little bit of a black eye Nothing wrong with black eye. In front of his audience, audience of what happened. And, and it's to the point right now where Hillary Clinton chimes in. And this is what she said. She admits she would nominate Trump for Nobel Peace Prize. Whoa, she would? If he helps end the war in Ukraine. Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton admits, she, is this it, Rob? Does she say that? Let's see it. It's a deep fake?

• 23:57Speaker 11

  If President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.

• 24:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so there you go. That's where it ends right there. So, I mean, And, and the reason why Hillary Clinton's saying it the way she did, you know why she's saying it as confident as she did? Because she knows something that there's no way it's gonna happen. Or else she would never say that.

• 24:16Adam Sosnick?

  Right.

• 24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You think she's involved in the conversations with NATO and Zelensky? You think she's involved with all the Democrat establishment talking to each other on what they're gonna be telling Zelensky? You think the insider establishments told her exactly how the conversations went? Of course. I don't think, I think Hillary Clinton just gave away her cards in that statement. And the cards are, over my dead body, this war's gonna end. And because I know the war's not gonna end, because I'm involved in it on the inside with some relationships, guess what? I'm willing to say publicly that I would nominate him to a Nobel Peace Prize. Because she knows she never will. If she does, it'll be the first time in her life that she shows a sign of nobility, which is great. But I think that was her having too much information, that she indirectly told the world that I kinda know a little bit more than you

• 25:02Patrick Bet-David?

  small-time people out there that you are doing podcasts and shows and mainstreaming all this other, you guys are not on the inside, you guys are just, you know, what's the word? You guys are just peasants. You guys are just masses. I know what's going on because I'm on the inside of the conversation.

• 25:14Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think that she's such a psychopath, self-dealing person that she would rather see the war go on in Russia and Ukraine than see Donald Trump, her bitter rival, Hillary Clinton, receive the Nobel Peace Prize? Do you think she's that?

• 25:32Adam Sosnick?

  Diabolical? Just diabolical? Knowing what we know about her.

• 25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you really asking that question? Like, what kind of a question is that? I mean, you're talking about a person that, you're talking about a person that in 2016, do you know what happened to her? She said, "Happy birthday, future president," to herself.

• 25:50Adam Sosnick?

  Well, that's just an egomaniac, right?

• 25:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no.

• 25:52Adam Sosnick?

  She thought she was gonna win, yeah. But that's different from being diabolical.

• 25:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I know. This woman is on a whole different level. Now, never underestimate the power of a, not, you know, D-man. This is, this is Hillary Clinton.

• 26:05Adam Sosnick?

  I know we wanna move on.

• 26:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how highly she thinks of herself?

• 26:08Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, no doubt.

• 26:08Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a week before the election. She wished herself a happy birthday and then she lost. You think she's ever gonna forget this day? No. No, she's not gonna forget this. Brutal.

• 26:17Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, listen, every politician is a narcissist in some capacity.

• 26:20Speaker 05

  Not like that.

• 26:21Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, I'm with you. By the way, just side note, what percentage of the stories we hear about Hillary? She did this, she did this. Do you think are actually true? 10, 20, 50, 100?

• 26:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me put it to you this way. If 25% is true.

• 26:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 26:37Patrick Bet-David?

  It's bad. If 5% is true, it's bad.

• 26:40Adam Sosnick?

  It's like when we had Gianni Russo here, it's like, what?

• 26:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 26:42Adam Sosnick?

  You slept with Madonna, you did this. It's like, if half the stories you say are true, you're the man. So, yeah, I mean. She's that big of a psychopath. I don't know, but we'll see.

• 26:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story. By the way, Hunter Biden made a few comments about Melania Trump. Melania Trump threatens to sue Hunter Biden for billion dollars over false, defamatory allegations linking her to Jeffrey Epstein. And Rob, do you have the comments that he made about her? Is this the one that he made?

• 27:06Speaker 05

  So this is the original comment that Hunter Biden made? And then I also have Hunter Biden's reaction to the lawsuit.

• 27:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 27:12Speaker 12

  Epstein introduced Melania to Trump. The connections are like so wide and deep. Anyway, why do we think? They don't want the files released? I don't know. I think, you know, that, that, that thing that John Rahm says is like a long time ago.

• 27:30Adam Sosnick?

  It's called crack bear.

• 27:31Speaker 12

  Accurate kind of assessment of them, which is everything is projection or confession. Everything. So when he puts out that tweet and he says Epstein now is the Russia hoax or the Hunter Biden laptop? The laptop from hell, which the Democrats swore had swore came from Russia. No, it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom. Like, I wonder if it works? You know what I mean? When he.

• 27:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so that's that. He makes that comment, right? And then Melania and her lawyers sue Hunter for billion dollars.

• 28:04Adam Sosnick?

  Or do they threaten him, Pat?

• 28:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, no, they threatened to sue him for a billion dollars. And then after they threatened him. Channel 5 Callahan goes because I think they're living together, him and Hunter. I don't know if they are, but it looks like they are.

• 28:19Adam Sosnick?

  What?

• 28:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So then, here's the question that's asked, and this is what Hunter had to say. Go ahead.

• 28:25Speaker 05

  Yes, this Andrew Callahan, just for reference, Andrew Callahan asks Hunter if he wants to apologize to Melania.

• 28:31Speaker 13

  So now, we're here, maybe to give you the platform to apologize to the first lady for your statements that you made about her possible connection to Jeffrey Epstein. Uh, fuck that. That's not gonna happen.

• 28:45Adam Sosnick?

  With the language, with the language, what are we doing?

• 28:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, all right, so there you have it. Hunter, Melania, Adam, your thoughts on this story?

• 28:57Adam Sosnick?

  So, uh, this is, uh, welcome to Gossip Girl Crackhead Edition, because if you know anything about how Donald Trump met Melania, it's actually a pretty straightforward story. I don't know if you know this, but Melania is a pretty attractive woman. Uh, that's not her, that's Hillary Clinton. Uh, and she was a gorgeous model, and they were attending an event at New York Fashion Week, I believe, in 1998. And I'm not sure if you know about Trump, but there was one thing he likes other than deals, it's, uh, hot chicks. So he shows up, he sees her, he's actually with another date, and he's like, excuse me, who's this lady over here? Uh, asks for her number, she says no, and then she says, here, uh, give me your number, I'll call you if I'm interested. So, that's how they met. What

• 29:41Adam Sosnick?

  Hunter Biden is doing, didn't, wasn't he pardoned for anything he did? Wasn't there some Otto Penn situation? Yeah, and all the crimes from 2014. It's almost like, remember in middle school, you get like a hall pass, and it's like, you can go and go around, go wherever you want to, and you're like, I'm the coolest kid in the world, I got a hall pass. I feel like that's what Hunter Biden has right now. He has his hall pass, this immunity of some capacity, where he can just say whatever the hell he wants to say, cursing like a sailor, and we know how we feel about that around here, guys, no bueno, and he's just saying the most outlandish things, like a shock jock. It's almost like he's trying to become a shock jock podcaster. The last thing I'll say about Hunter Biden is...

• 30:22Adam Sosnick?

  Who's gonna carry the Biden legacy moving forward? It's not Joe Biden. I mean, this guy's 8,000 years old. Jill Biden is gonna fade away after he passes away. Beau Biden, who was like the quote unquote good son, he died. Ashley Biden, she's nowhere to be seen. So you're left with Hunter, the crackhead artist. And he's carrying the Biden torch, which might end up being a blowtorch. But he's the one that's carrying the Biden legacy. And it might just burn all down if it hasn't burned down already.

• 30:53Speaker 10

  He's, he's, by the way, and there's another clip, like he's, it doesn't seem to be like he's backing down. He's saying that he's gonna be the tip of the spear for everybody. And the pardons Adam have nothing to do with this. These are new allegations. This is post. Whatever he does from this point on, he's not protected at all. He sits there smug and he's happy. But this is a huge, huge hole that he's digging himself into. And this is his attitude about if the people want it, he's gonna keep going for it.

• 31:20Adam Sosnick?

  You're right. What I'm saying is the confidence that nothing I've done in the past, I can get in trouble for. So let me focus on now, he's not gonna get in trouble for saying ridiculous things.

• 31:28Speaker 10

  Oh, no, no.

• 31:28Adam Sosnick?

  That's what people do on the internet.

• 31:30Speaker 10

  Well, that's, well, that's, that's what crack cocaine does to your brain. Because I, dude, I'm pretty sure.

• 31:36Adam Sosnick?

  It's not as bad as fentanyl.

• 31:37Speaker 10

  Well, I'm, I'm pretty sure the people are telling him like his team. Cause mind you, does he, I don't think he has secret service protection. But I'm pretty sure he has security and lawyers and everybody. Bro, these are huge claims and a billion dollar lawsuit. And obviously he doesn't have a billion dollars, but that'll clean him dry. Rob, can you please play this clip, Rob?

• 31:54Speaker 12

  I wanna go through the process. They know that it's, that it's gonna cost

• 31:57Adam Sosnick?

  It sounds like a young Joe Biden.

• 31:58Speaker 12

  an enormous amount of money to do it. And so, uh, you know, that's the only thing that I, I gotta figure out, you know, we gotta get, we gotta figure out how that we're gonna pay for it. Here's what I'm saying to the American people is if you wanna know the origin and the nature of the relationship between Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and which I, which I have no personal knowledge of. I can only go by what has been reported. But if you wanna know that nature, then let's, let's all go figure it out together. Of the connection to them. I'll be the point of the, the tip of the spear for you. We gotta figure out how that we're gonna pay for it.

• 32:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, it's amazing listening to him, you realize where he got his genetics from. And, and, and who talks like him, his pops talks just like him. Yeah. So I, I don't know. I, I think if I'm. If I'm Joe Biden and I'm watching these clips, what am I thinking? Dude, keep your mouth shut. Be quiet. Go away. Hang out with your girls. Do what you're doing. You're not helping with anything that I have going on with the last few years of legacy. Nothing. You think Joe wakes up in the morning and every time he sees stuff like this, or even Jill, more than Joe?

• 33:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So, oh my God, can you tell, you know, Hunter to just be quiet and go away and not talk about this kind of stuff? What is he doing? He's hurting us with the last couple of years that we got left, he got left. So I don't know, I don't know what he's doing here. I don't know the allegations, the stuff. Maybe he's trying to get some attention that he's got going on there, but you know, I'm looking at more from the perspective of Joe Biden. I think it's too much.

• 33:30Speaker 10

  But do you, and I'm not being funny, I'm not trying to be funny. I don't think Joe Biden is even there.

• 33:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Jill is though.

• 33:37Speaker 10

  Jill, you know that?

• 33:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 33:38Adam Sosnick?

  You don't think Joe Biden is just completely confident?

• 33:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Jill is there.

• 33:42Adam Sosnick?

  You're out of control, Vinny.

• 33:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Be quiet.

• 33:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree with that. I think Jill is trying to protect the legacy, the same way we saw her protecting him on stage, the same way we heard that she was trying to do things in the White House. I think Jill Biden looks at this and it's like, your father's legacy is at stake. I think she's the projector. I think you're right.

• 34:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's go to next story.

• 34:02Adam Sosnick?

  You think they don't want him to talk?

• 34:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 34:04Speaker 10

  Hell no.

• 34:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 34:05Adam Sosnick?

  I actually disagree with you guys.

• 34:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 34:07Adam Sosnick?

  Because other than, okay, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out. Other than Hunter Biden.

• 34:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 34:12Adam Sosnick?

  Can you name one person that is defending the Biden legacy at this point? Corrine Jean-Pierre, who is the biggest liar on earth.

• 34:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Please don't defend me like that.

• 34:20Adam Sosnick?

  This is not defending.

• 34:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't defend me like that.

• 34:22Tom Ellsworth?

  You're talking about political allies versus...

• 34:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to be defended like that? I don't want to be defended like that.

• 34:27Adam Sosnick?

  The point is, nobody else is defending him.

• 34:30Speaker 10

  Smokes him crack.

• 34:30Adam Sosnick?

  Corrine Jean-Pierre, who was the biggest progressive Democrat I've ever seen, is now an independent. People jumped off the Biden ship.

• 34:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 34:37Adam Sosnick?

  Because it was a Titanic.

• 34:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you.

• 34:39Adam Sosnick?

  And this is the crackhead who's defending him. They actually appreciate it.

• 34:42Patrick Bet-David?

  There is a person that edifies you. Let's just say somebody edifies you. There's different ways of edification. You're in front of a crowd of thousands of people and one person comes up and they say something like this. Let me tell you guys about Patrick and I. This is why I like doing business with him. I've been doing business with him for 12 years. In 12 years, anytime I need to get ahold of him, I can get ahold of him. He's responsive so fast. He's busier than anybody I do business with, but he always calls me back. And he kept his word. There were moments we went through challenging times. He'll push you, he is this, he's that. But I have so much respect for the way I've done business with him. This is why we continue to do business. And it was the best job we ever had. With that being said, please help me bring up Patrick, but David, okay? That's edification. Let me give you the other one. Oh, my God.

• 35:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Patrick has changed my life in a way that if it wasn't for him, I have to tell you, I would have been this. And he is the closest thing to God and.

• 35:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't do, don't do that. We're like, that's, that's, that's the what? You know, sometimes, sometimes edification is. I'll look at Vinnie and I'll say, listen, let me put it to you this way. I can listen to Vinnie for hours. I'm never bored. He sincerely is this funny 24/7. My kids love him. I haven't met anybody doesn't, doesn't like this guy. If you're somebody that doesn't like Vinnie, manect me, okay? And tell me about it. I've yet to meet one person.

• 36:02Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, you're just gonna manect from me. No, I'm just kidding.

• 36:05Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but my, my point, my point here is there is a levels to edifying somebody. Some people edify in a way that is so fake. Like when you did it yesterday, sincere, we're talking, we're there. But sometimes you're like, ah, dude, that's not the way to do it. So I don't want to be edified like this. I don't want to be lifted up like this. The way I want to be lifted, like if a person complimented Joe Biden, like this would be one way to say it. Say what you want to say about Joe. We can all agree about the fact that maybe the debate wasn't this. Maybe this wasn't this, well, maybe that wasn't this. Look, here's what I can tell you. Behind closed doors, always dressed nice, was always respectful to me, was always good to me. You know, was always fair with me. And I don't know what the legacy they're gonna write about it. But I definitely hope that the history books show the fact that he was fair. Da, da, da, da, da.

• 36:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I, that's proper edification. You don't want somebody edifying you like this. All right, let's go to the next thing.

• 36:55Adam Sosnick?

  But this is all they got.

• 36:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Let, let's, well, that's pretty bad. So I would tell him to go retire. Uh, all right, so let's talk about ICE. More than 100,000 Americans apply to join ICE. Apply to join ICE. Think about it, to help deport illegal aliens. Do you know what happened after 9/11? So many people joined what?

• 37:17Speaker 10

  Police Department.

• 37:18Patrick Bet-David?

  The Police Department and Military, you joined the Police.

• 37:20Speaker 10

  I was in during it and then they did stop laws where we couldn't even leave and people were joining left and right.

• 37:26Patrick Bet-David?

  But there's a lot of people that would join because they're like, "I'm gonna go fight for my country." Right now, Americans are saying, "I wanna go clean up the border." 100,000 Americans applied to join the ICE to have local arrests and deport illegal aliens. As Department of Homeland Security officials reported, "Following a recruitment effort by Trump's administration, the campaign includes an ad campaign and a $50,000 signing bonus for new recruits." Damn. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem stated, "Our country is calling you to serve at ICE in the wake and of the Biden administration failing immigration policies. Our country needs dedicated men and women

• 38:02Patrick Bet-David?

  of ICE to get the worst of worst of the criminals out of the country. New ICE recruits are offered student loan repayment, forgiveness options, a 25% law enforcement availability pay for Homeland Security investigations, special agents, premium overtime payments for enforcement and removal operations, deportation officers, and enhanced retirement benefits." Okay? So that's what they said. The bill also includes more than $46 billion for new border wall construction, $45 billion for ICE detention space, $10 billion reimbursed for states who covered border security costs under Joe Biden, and $3.5 billion with Department of Justice to issue grants to local governments who help locate and arrest illegal aliens, among other funding measures. Okay? There was a clip of Mayor Bass losing it over ICE.

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But Rogan, Joe Rogan, rips ICE raids. He says, "Great, you're going to get rid of landscapers." Okay, Rob, I don't know if you have the Rogan clip, we'll come back to the Bass one. Joe Rogan criticized the Trump administration. Raids on, Joe Rogan explained publicly protest stemmed from a visceral reaction to officers pulling. People out of schools and pulling people out of the Home Depot and pulling people out, pulling people that were just hardworking people. He argued that voters expected the removal of violent criminals, not ordinary workers, saying when people thought about ICE, they thought, "Great, we're going to get rid of the gang members." That they think, "Great, you're going to get rid of landscapers." Rogan pressed, if this is the clip that you have, Rob?

• 39:29Speaker 14

  Yep.

• 39:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 39:30Speaker 15

  All of a sudden, these like pop-up riots. I actually call them the Timu riots. Like, this is a Chinese-funded group, and what they're doing is they're using that front in an effort to then divide on that topic as well.

• 39:40Speaker 14

  I absolutely believe this is true, that I'm sure other countries fund similar things, but also, it was in reaction to some of the ICE raids. And pulling people out of schools, and pulling people out of Home Depot. When people thought about ICE, they thought, "Great, we're gonna get rid of the gang members." They didn't think, "Great, you're gonna get rid of a landscaper."

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• 41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what, Ron?

• 41:05Speaker 10

  This is just B-roll footage of the... but that's the conversation.

• 41:10Patrick Bet-David?

  This is LA?

• 41:10Speaker 10

  Yes.

• 41:14Patrick Bet-David?

  We were just there a couple of days ago, and this is not the same LA.

• 41:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Okay, so ICE, ICE raids, 100,000 people signing up, you're getting rid of landscapers. Vinnie, your thoughts on this story?

• 41:28Speaker 10

  I think like, well, first and foremost, let's say what the actual problem is, okay? The Biden administration let in how many? What's the number? I hear 20 million. Tom Homan said 10 million, so let's set the floor there. It could be more. Let's say 10 to 20, let's go in the middle of that, okay? And now, Trump, just like everything else, just like with Russia, just like with the border, just like with crime, Trump has to come in and clean everything up, alright? It's like, this is the analogy, alright? The Biden administration threw this wild party, okay? They opened the doors, Tom, everybody came in the house, criminals, they're spray painting, they're killing, girls were raped at the party, people are dead, okay? Now the cops show up, everybody's showing up at them, the maids, everybody's cleaning up, and you're getting mad at the cops and the maids.

• 42:12Speaker 10

  I'm sorry, and there's a misconception, and I understand what Joe cops, and I... Trust me, he made a great point about how there could be a way that if you've been here for 10 years, or 5 years, and you've been paying taxes and all that stuff, even though Trump made it seem like he's gonna get rid of everybody, say what you want, Trump is saying exactly what he said. Okay, but there's a misconception that they're just walking into schools and grabbing people. The majority of these raids, Adam, let's say that they're looking for 30 people, 19 of them have arrest warrants, they were DUI, they have felony charges, and they're just getting rid of them. I apologize, I am so sorry. If you're here illegally, the first thing you did to come here was break the law, so when he's doing this wide grab and they're trying to get everybody, I'm sorry,

• 42:55Speaker 10

  some of these people who are still illegal are going to get... Uh, rounded up and it sucks. It sucks, but he, he ran on it. If you don't like it, then you shouldn't have voted for him. Cause that's what I voted for. I voted for getting these people out of here that are illegal. Because how much times we keep hearing sanctuary city this sanctuary city that all the money has gone to these people. Yes, there needs to be an adjustment, but Trump said he was gonna do it and he's doing it and that's it.

• 43:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, I love the recruitment. You know, the US armed forces, police locally, they've been running programs like this to recruit forever. There have been programs that ran right after nine 11. There's programs that run where, you know, the army feels that they're below their target. So they put some programs out there. So they're putting a program out here and what are they doing? They're not recruiting a militia. They're recruiting the permanent staff that is going to stand watch and control our closed border. We've closed the border. Now we're getting more staff that's gonna be there. And yes, we're gonna continue the removal of people that have a criminal record. The people that they went after, you know, had criminal records.

• 43:58Tom Ellsworth?

  But there was also visual footage that looked bad and the mainstream media was more than happy to say, that's an innocent man in the middle of a field being taken out. You know, did that happen? I don't know, but there is a lot of evidence that they were going after people that had criminal records, who were already here illegally. And then did China fund it? Have Soros organizations funded some of these protests? Yes, yes. The allegation, I believe, I believe the allegations. So when I say yes, I'm saying I believe the allegations that other people that don't agree with Trump are helping to fund, make the protest even worse about immigration.

• 44:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I think the average American, if you look on policy by policy, they like what's going on with the, the, a lot of the policies that Trump has made. But they didn't like what was going on visually.

• 44:51Adam Sosnick?

  With all the footage, it's like, hey, I like the border being closed. I like the fact that we're

• 44:57Speaker 10

  Vinnie.

• 44:57Adam Sosnick?

  Cleaning people back, but then they would see some of the footage and go, ah, that kind of looks kind of bad.

• 45:01Speaker 10

  Yeah, and again, Tom, it's sometimes it does look bad, but just to make my point, a lot of these people were talking about the ICE raid that they did on August 6th.

• 45:12Speaker 10

  The Border Patrol grabbed 16 illegals in Westlake Home Depot in LA. Records showed six of them, okay, 16, six of them had criminal histories, including a Nicaraguan charged with felony theft in April, a Guatemalan with a prior LAPD arrest for DUI with great bodily injury. He almost killed somebody in an accident, a Guatemalan ICE fugitive with a 2014 deportation order, and three previously deported Guatemalans who illegally came back in during Biden. I get it. It looks bad, guys. It looks bad, but if you ask for it, now you got it. The word illegal, people keep missing the point. Guys, we all came here legally. Your family came here legally. My mom and dad, my grand, they all came here legally.

• 45:53Speaker 10

  Okay, besides the fact that, you know what, let's say out of 100 of them, five of them raped and murdered and everything, that's too much. That's five Americans that would have been saved if it wasn't for, for the border. And this all sits on Alejandro Mayorkas and the last administration, who, Adam, you want to talk about pardons? Nothing's ever going to happen to that guy. He's sitting at home, smiling his butt off, because he opened the door and let, this problem is because of that Biden administration. So this is all lies on them, period. End of story.

• 46:20Adam Sosnick?

  Remember the clip that was like, hide your wife, hide your kids, because they're out here raping everybody? I feel like that, this guy right here, thank you, Rob. I feel like that is sort of the narrative. You want to play this?

• 46:32Speaker 10

  No, no.

• 46:32Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I feel like that's sort of the narrative with the illegal immigrants, but sometimes when you want to make an omelet, you got to crack a couple eggs. And a couple crackheads. But the reality is this, why are people joining ICE? How many people are applying 10, 100,000 Americans have applied to join ICE?

• 46:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 46:47Adam Sosnick?

  That's amazing.

• 46:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 46:48Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. I want to be, how many people don't want to be police officers anymore? How many people stopped wanting to be firefighters in California over there?

• 46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 46:55Adam Sosnick?

  So, I think it's a very good thing that you want to serve your country. What are the main three reasons that an American want to serve ICE? Number one, it's a job. It's a career. AI ain't gonna replace you. You're gonna have a job for sure. You're gonna have money, benefits. What are they giving? $50,000 signing bonuses? Maybe I'll join ICE, who knows? Number two, you want to serve your country, straight up. And we talked about why someone would join the CIA. It's like, bro, you gotta be insane. Peter Thiel's, it's like, they're doing this because they genuinely want to serve their country for national security purposes and to help the country out. Number three, and this is, I think this goes for both sides. They genuinely feel like they're doing the right thing.

• 47:37Adam Sosnick?

  This is what I, the people that are protesting against ICE feel very passionately that they're doing the right thing.

• 47:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 47:43Adam Sosnick?

  The people that are joining ICE are feeling passionately that they're doing the right thing.

• 47:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, this is a two-part thing, right? One is Joe saying that they're coming after the landscaper. So, the one thing why Joe is loved is because Joe has a soft, you know, he has a heart.

• 48:00Adam Sosnick?

  Empathy.

• 48:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Empathy. That is the reason why he's so, he has the empathy and he can kill you, right? So, he's got that combination of how he's the gentle guy that also has a heart when he sees things like this. Story comes out here, Secretary Noem announces 1.6 million illegal aliens. This is yesterday or today. This is a few hours ago. 1.6 million illegal aliens have left. This is self-deported. In the first 100 days as secretary in the US, has seen a decline of 1.6 million illegal aliens across the country. So, watch this. Q20, Q1 2021 Biden 10.2, next year your lady 11.4, next year 12.6, next year 40 million,

• 48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  next year 16 million, right? And that from 15.8 million to 14.2 million, 1.6 million out. Now, they're saying they only, ICE has only been able to get how many? We've heard the number. How many people have them been able, uh, uh, has ICE gotten themselves? It's 100,000? It's not a big number.

• 49:02Speaker 10

  It's not, it's less than 200,000.

• 49:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's less than 200,000. But guess what? The, the advertisement, the messaging, all of that, a lot of people are like, screw this, I'm going back to Mexico. Don't even worry about coming and getting me. I'm gonna go back to my family. So the 1.6 million that have self deported is a part of, that, that's the number. Yeah, ICE has removed in the first 100 days was 65, 66,000. Not a big number when you think about that.

• 49:27Speaker 10

  No.

• 49:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's say it's 100,000 that they actually got. But say 1.6 million self deported. That means they did that. That's a part of what they did. So to, to, to those that are sitting here saying, well, you know what? What about this and what about that? Guys, you, this was his top three issue was the border. He ran on this in 16. Build the damn wall. He's been saying this for nine years, that this is what he's gonna be doing. Okay? And guess what happened a moment he came in? People coming through the border went to zero. Nobody has even wanted to come here anymore. It's like illegally, no. Legally, God willing, I'm gonna wait to see how I can come, end up coming here.

• 50:09Speaker 10

  Right.

• 50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But to me, I believe the number one most important thing anybody and everybody thinks about when it comes down to family, kids, is safety. It's the S word. Keep me safe, keep me secure. If you can't do that, I'm not with it. It's the same exact thing he's doing in DC. Like when you see this mayor Bass of LA saying something like this, this is her by the way, watch her reaction, look how she reacts, watch her rage.

• 50:37Speaker 05

  I do not believe that this just happened to be a coincidence.

• 50:39Speaker 16

  There is no way this was a coincidence. This was widely publicized that the governor and many of our other elected officials were having a press conference here to talk about redistricting and they decided they were gonna come and thumb their nose in front of the governor's face. Why would you do that? That is unbelievably disrespectful. It's a provocative act. They're talking about disorder in Los Angeles and they are the source of the disorder in Los Angeles right now.

• 51:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 51:08Speaker 16

  This is just completely unacceptable.

• 51:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Who believes it?

• 51:10Speaker 16

  People like California.

• 51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  People in California, people in LA. So the guy behind her definitely believes it with that haircut of it. So when you think about, when you think about what Newsom said yesterday with the redistricting. Let me go to that one because she commented on that. So they had a meeting, they've been wanting to redistrict in a while and his words were "it's over for California." Okay, I think there was a quote, I gotta find it to see which one it is. Rob, what clip do you have about the new statement he made about redistricting California?

• 51:36Speaker 05

  Right here, this is what he says Donald Trump's plans are and why he wants redistricting so much.

• 51:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 51:43Speaker 17

  Wake up, America, wake up. You will not have a country if he rigs this election. Rig. You will have a president who will be running for a third term. Mark my word. I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I received in the mail a "Trump 2028" at from one of his biggest supporters. These guys are not screwing around. The rules do not apply to him. The most corrupt president in history. Doesn't believe in free enterprise, crony capitalism. He is wrecking this country, wrecking the economy. Lies. He's a lawless president. Lies. Wake up, America. Wake up to what's going on.

• 52:20Speaker 10

  How many lies, hold on, Adam, dead serious. How many lies did he just say factually in that statement? Lawless, the economy sucks, and by the way, Rob, the one that I sent you the image, he's, I'm telling you right now, remember I made the bet with Sam Seder, the most handsome guy in the world, that he said that like, that he was gonna be the frontrunner? He's gonna be the frontrunner. And just that fool, Rob, that fool right there, Pat, when you look at this. This is the, and this is it. This is the presidential look that he's going for. He's completely full of crap. And when you ask, who's buying it? Who's buying the Karen Bass? By the way, I'm shocked. She's even in the country, not on vacation when shit's going haywire. I'm shocked. I am shocked that they're doing it. But you, you said it, Adam.

• 53:05Speaker 10

  I'm sorry, Pat, you did? The scariest thing is, they're not, he's not losing any support. Those people standing out there in Californians are like, yeah, yeah. And they're still gonna vote for them even though their city, their state is going down to, I can't even say.

• 53:18Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you one thing I know for sure. California is not America. We just came back from LA and Pat did the, uh, the debate, the Jubilee thing. Wow.

• 53:30Speaker 10

  I couldn't believe it.

• 53:31Adam Sosnick?

  These people are so far gone.

• 53:32Speaker 10

  Oh, my God.

• 53:33Adam Sosnick?

  That there's no, they can't be redeemed. Now, let me qualify this. They're actually smart. They're not idiots. They're well read, they're educated, they have strong opinions, they got the vernacular, they know what's going on. But they're fighting the wrong fight. And they're defending the wrong people and there's no switching these people. So if you're Gavin Newsom now, that's your audience. Gavin Newsom still is the governor of California. That's his first priority. Yes, he wants to be president of the United States one day, obviously like that. He's, that's his audience, that's his megaphone. So he's saying the things that the people in California wanna hear. These people are so far gone, they're not redeemable. Thank God that there's common sense people in the Midwest, in the, in the Bible Belt, in Florida, that are like,

• 54:16Adam Sosnick?

  dude, save your crap for a person.

• 54:19Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a lot of common sense people in California. That's the reason they've been planning the redistricting before anybody else was talking about redistricting because they freaked out about the compositional change to California after the election. And so he's out there rage baiting. He's out there, the dog whistle to his followers. He's out there headline chasing and he's trying to posture himself. And he's got no. He really has no record to run on. You look at the fires, you look at the economy, you look at the job loss, you look at California's tax, you look at what's going on, you look at the controversies that are having over what appears to be a land grab in the Palisades that's being done legislatively

• 54:58Tom Ellsworth?

  with laws. And you see a man without a country. Also, the minute he steps east of Las Vegas, the Democrat polls are different. JB Pritzker has got tremendous support. And so this primary is not in a FedEx being sent to Sacramento that says, "Hey, man, see you in February 28th. You know, here it is, and it's your size. It's tailored for you. Come on, baby. The water's warm." That's not what Gavin Newsom's about to find. JB Pritzker and the DNC are really not with Gavin Newsom. That part's gonna be fun to watch, but you can see what they're after right now. Trump's gonna lose in midterm, presidency ends in 17 minutes, and Speaker Jeffries back. Their focus is on the

• 55:42Tom Ellsworth?

  midterms, and they were gonna redistrict California anyway. It's happening in plain sight. And no, they're not dumb. They're very shrewd, but they're... Look, they think we're evil. Liberals think conservatives are evil. We just think they're wrong, and we want to process it. Honestly?

• 56:00Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, everything you said, I agree. I agree. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. The only thing, I'll give you a caveat, and you said Gavin Newsom has no record to run on. That doesn't matter. The only thing that they have to run on is, he's not Trump. Trump is evil. Bad, bad, bad. I agree with it that it doesn't work, but that's the platform.

• 56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so by the way, if they redistrict, the way they want to redistrict, okay, right now, they got a 43-9 lead, okay? And remember, with the House, you know, midterms around the corner, so this redistricting is purely for midterms to see who's gonna get bumped out. It looks like Crockett is gone. So now, Rob, can you pull up who are the nine Republican House of Representatives in the state of California? Who are the nine House of Republican Representatives, uh, yeah, in California? See which one of these guys are a threat? Like, who is actually a formidable name that gets in the way, out of all the names? Daryl Isha, okay. He's a stud. He's a stud. Ken Calvert, Young Kim, Jay David, Vince Fong. Is that a rapper? Vince Fong, uh. Young Kim? Tom, you know who Vince Fong is?

• 57:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, we met him.

• 57:02Patrick Bet-David?

  We met him, yep. He's like, yeah, the Asian Vince Fong.

• 57:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Vince Fong is in Central Valley around Bakersfield, took Kevin McCarthy's seat.

• 57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right, so Tom McClintock, Kevin, so all of these guys are targeted. That's who they're targeting. They're targeting these nine names. So if they redistrict, and the way that I think they're gonna redistrict, four or five of these guys are gonna lose their jobs. So four or five lose their jobs, it has nothing to do with California, because California is already 43 to 9. It's about what the majority of the House, Rob, go to see the split right now, how many Dems and how many Republicans have? Like, the percentage of controlling the House? What is the number? Do you know what the number is, Tom? I know Republicans are up, but by how many though? 10 maybe, give or take? It's not a big number, it's not like they're up 40. The score's a very close score. What is the number? Let's see here.

• 57:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you look at this, you got what, 219 to 217? So check this out. So if he's able to, oh yeah.

• 58:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so 7 seats, gotcha.

• 58:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So if he's able to flip 4 in California, you know what that does? Add 4 to Democrats, which is 216, take 4 away from Democrats, which is 215, Democrats now control the House. If Abbott does redistricting, which they just got approved by the Senate, even though the other nine people didn't vote, they go and they do flip 5. So that's the 5, 4 plus minus, 1 goes to Republicans. But who else will be doing that? DeSantis is talking about being able to do it in Florida, but in Florida, they can't do it dramatically, like some of these other places can do it with these weird salamander type of stuff that they're doing. Sensible law, somebody did 100 years ago in Florida. That's right, so the reality of it is,

• 58:43Patrick Bet-David?

  the Democrat, and Newsom is trying to say, I'm gonna do, and, you know, in a way, he's saying, destroy the Republican Party for many years to come. If he does this, he's putting the onus now on Trump, but again, Newsom is a professional politician, and he knows what he's doing here. Uh, so a part of this story is the ICE, a part of this is redistricting. Rob, make sure Humberto makes us into two clips, not just one clip, of what happened with the, because I'm looking at 21 minutes, but, let's make a note of that so Humberto knows this. All right, let's go to the next one. Just a couple of days ago. The president of Mexico, Scheinbaum, when the president, White House says, hey, we're gonna be going and to clean house in Mexico because they're looking for certain cartel members.

• 59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  She said, there's no way you can do this. There's no way you can come over here and da-da-da-da. All this stuff, right? And I don't know if you have that or not, Rob. Is this it? Yeah. She wasn't for us doing any of it. Go ahead and play this clip. This was a couple of days ago.

• 59:40Speaker 18

  We cooperate, we collaborate, but there will be no invasion.

• 59:43Patrick Bet-David?

  She called it an invasion.

• 59:44Speaker 18

  That is discarded, absolutely discarded. In addition, they have expressed it in all calls, that it is not allowed or part of any agreement, much less. When they have come to raise it, we have always said no, that we can collaborate in another way.

• 59:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so she says that. Couple of days later, guess what? Mexico sends 26 cartel members to US and deal with Trump administration, okay? And she made his job actually easier. This is a lot easier if you send it to us, than us having to go and get it. So, this story is the 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the US on Tuesday, including Abigail Gonzalez Valencia, leader of the Los Cunios, allied with Jalisco New Generation Cartel, the CJNG, CJNG and Roberto Salazar, wanted for the 2008 killing of LA County Sheriff Deputy as part of a deal with Trump administration to combat drug smuggling. Mexican Security Minister Omar Garcia Harfuk

• 1:00:40Patrick Bet-David?

  stated at a Wednesday news conference, these transfers are not only a strategic measure to ensure public safety, but also reflect a firm determination to prevent these criminals from continuing to operate from within prisons to break up their networks of influence. Rob, can you play this clip?

• 1:01:00Speaker 19

  Jalisco and Noreste Cartels to the US. That also includes one suspect who is accused of participating in the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy. Attorney General Pam Bondi writing, quote, "These 26 men have all played a role in bringing violence and drugs to American shores. Under this Department of Justice, they will face severe consequences for their crimes against this country."

• 1:01:26Speaker 20

  From what I'm reading, these 26 individuals, cartel members, or leaders, I believe that the US promised to seek the death penalty in order, as part of the deal, to get them here. What's Mexico's, what is their incentive to send those folks here?

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• 1:02:39Speaker 21

  Well, if you remember when the Trump administration designated the cartels as a foreign terrorist organization. Obviously, the Mexican government got incredibly nervous about that because that gives incredible power to the US government to pursue the cartels. So the Mexican government is now cooperating with the US government because it does not want US forces going into Mexico to take care of the cartels, which have been a direct threat and have been terrorizing Americans in which this administration is clearly not going to tolerate it. So what I find encouraging about this is the collaboration now between the US government and the Mexican government so that, you know, the Mexican government doesn't get any more of the the direct kind of ire and attention from from the Trump administration.

• 1:03:23Speaker 19

  Yeah, a major win for the Trump administration because the last place these 26 cartel leaders would want to be is in US custody. And our relationship with Mexico is unique.

• 1:03:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So when you hear that story, why, Tom, why wouldn't they want us to go grab the cartels out of Mexico that are causing havoc in their country? Is it because they are owned and controlled by the cartels? Is it because they're afraid of the cartels? Why is that?

• 1:03:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I think you just hit on it. Everything that's there's been alarm bells going off in my head when I read this. I said, okay, this must mean, because we see what happens in the election, you know, they they kill candidates, they kill judges, it's still happening. And the cartels have tremendous influence and control over parts of the Mexican government. And I think, remember, some of these guys were already in jail. Some of these guys had already been, you know, captured and captured with US assistance. So remember, these 26, this follows the 29 that were sent to us in February. This is now 55.

• 1:04:28Tom Ellsworth?

  And so I think that some of the cartels that are controlling the Mexican government are giving up guys that are in prison because they don't want the US military coming across the border and disrupting on a wide scale. Because watch, which is operating, Vinny, check this out. Which is operating and which is not operating? The guys in prison have influence, maybe they call shots, but they're not really operating. The guys on the ground are operating. They're operating everything they've got. Human trafficking, the drug manufacturing, they're operating all that. The minute we come across the border and we put raids, we disrupt operations.

• 1:05:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Meanwhile, they just take 26 guys out of prison who may be calling the shots, but they're not operating. Do you see them going? So I think the cartels are like, man, we do not want the US military coming across here and busting up the stuff that we got going right now. We can't have this. And I think there's this very delicate détente and a negotiation where I believe the cartels have influence and said, you know what? These guys are in jail, kind of screwed. We're not going to get them out of jail. If they get released, the US is going to freak out anyway. Why don't we just send these 26 over the same way we sent 25 over in February? I think it's that way. I don't think this is the Mexican government standing up and being all noble and, you

• 1:05:51Tom Ellsworth?

  know, purely, you know, law and order stance and looking forward and protecting these citizens. I think that's, I don't think that's the story here.

• 1:06:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny.

• 1:06:03Speaker 10

  Well, I think, by the way, she came out of nowhere. Do you guys remember running up to that election from 2018 to 2024? I believe 87 mayors were killed, beheaded, and everything from the cartels or whoever in Mexico, and then she gets put in. So there's, I feel my opinion that there's, you know, she's the one that they want to be in there. I don't know all the details. I'm not really that deep into Mexican politics in Mexico. But Tom, 26 individuals here, that's, that are going to be in our prisons. I did the math. That's cost per year for, let's say, 30 years, they're going to be in here, not the ones that they execute, $65,000. So we're talking about the American taxpayer is going to be paying roughly 31 million to 51 million

• 1:06:46Speaker 10

  to have these people here to take care of them for the rest of their lives, not including medical costs or this or that. Why, why are we taking them? Why can't they just deal with these problems, keep them themselves and, and, and hold their foot to the fire in, in terms of justice?

• 1:06:59Patrick Bet-David?

  According to them, they have lowered homicide by 25% in Mexico. Can you verify this, Rob? If they, if Shinebaum has lowered homicide in Mexico by 25%, apparently they have. Now, again, that's their data. I don't know. They're saying they have.

• 1:07:16Speaker 10

  But Pat, why do we, why, why should we, like, can't they put them in jail and do what, why, why, why do we need to take them in and take care of these people? Not the ones that are going to get the chair, because we're going for the death penalty, especially the ones that are trying to kill or have killed cops. Why can't they just keep them in their prisons? Well, I, I'm still confused on why do we have to take these people in?

• 1:07:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Why, why are we taking?

• 1:07:35Speaker 10

  Why are we taking all 26 of these people?

• 1:07:37Tom Ellsworth?

  They cut a deal.

• 1:07:39Speaker 10

  And to do what with them? But what, what can't they, if the guy killed a cop or killed whatever, can't they give them the death penalty there?

• 1:07:46Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm coming across, and I'm going to do this myself. And they're like, we don't want Trump to do that.

• 1:07:51Speaker 10

  Just take the bodies yourself?

• 1:07:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Here, I'll give you 29 guys in February. I'll give you 26 here. That's 55. Take them, fill them full of sodium pentathol, make them sit naked on a hibachi, get their attention and get all the information you want from them. You don't think that there's probably some of that going on?

• 1:08:05Speaker 10

  Okay, okay.

• 1:08:06Tom Ellsworth?

  We're good at that.

• 1:08:06Speaker 10

  I got you. Okay. So this is, this is like a, like, we're not going to come and invade.

• 1:08:11Patrick Bet-David?

  In her first year, approximately 11 months, Shinebaum has achieved a 25.3% reduction in daily homicides, which fell from 86.9% to, 86.9 a day to 64.9. This marks the lowest levels. Since 2015, so she's doing something to give her credit. She's doing something about it as well. Uh, with numbers and Rob, i- i- is it true? We don't have a military base in Mexico?

• 1:08:34Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think we do.

• 1:08:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you check that? We don't have a military base in Mexico? Yeah, I mean, look, I, if, if, if you think about one of the issues, top 20 issues, Trump. Tw- uh, 47. You know what was, yeah, we don't have a military base in Mexico. Okay, that makes sense. So if you look at the, if you look at one of the issues that Trump ran on was what? Border. Squared away, he's doing it, ICE. $50,000, 100,000 people already signed up. What's another thing that he signed up that he, uh, said he was gonna do? Top 20.

• 1:09:03Adam Sosnick?

  Economy.

• 1:09:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Fentanyl.

• 1:09:04Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, this is the fentanyl. Promise. This is what they're doing to say, we promised you we're gonna go after fentanyl? We're doing it. We're gonna find out who's behind it and we're gonna put him out. Adam, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:09:16Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, in the western hemisphere, Mexico is the last country in the world I'm gonna go visit. Oh, my God, why would you say that about Mexico? It's our neighbor. Uh, not safe. Just straight up, you talk about why, why the most, uh, high priority of a family has of taking care of their kids is safety, safety, safety. You call it the S-word, right, Pat?

• 1:09:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:09:35Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, here are the most dangerous countries in the western hemisphere. We know what happened in El Salvador, we know what's going on in Venezuela, Jamaica, Honduras, Ecuador, Guatemala. Shout out to Mexico, uh, shout out to Mario, the Mexican. But those are the list of, uh, of countries. The most dangerous cities? Just cities?

• 1:09:55Speaker 10

  Jalisco is up there?

• 1:09:56Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my, it's all Mexico, the top 10, nine of the top 10. Colima, Mexico, Ciudad Obregón, Mexico, Zamora, Mexico, Manzilo, Mexico, Manzanillo, Mexico, Tijuana, Mexico, Ciudad Juarez. Throwing a little Port-au-Prince, Haiti in there. The most dangerous cities you could possibly go visit. Now, I know everybody in Miami is like, I'm going to Tulum. Stay in Tulum, bro. Don't leave Tulum. All those cities, you will get decapitated. By the way, little fun fact, there's a couple of cities in the United States that are close to the top 10. Jackson, Mississippi, Memphis, Tennessee, clean it up, boys. Baltimore, Chicago, but they all pale in comparison to what the hell is going on in Mexico.

• 1:10:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's a lot of weird stories. Rob, did you see the story of the Mexican influencer, 23-year-old girl who was on a live stream? And she said, if anybody's gonna do anything to me, it's gonna be my ex. And she's getting, don't play the video.

• 1:10:47Adam Sosnick?

  No, please don't.

• 1:10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But if, but if I'm gonna, if any, anyone's gonna do anything to me, it's gonna be my ex. And she's getting a gift. Apparently, a, uh, she's getting a gift while she's getting the gift, and she gets killed.

• 1:11:00Speaker 10

  Beautiful girl.

• 1:11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is a top member of the brutal Jalisco Nueva, uh, uh, the whole CJNG. And is also suspected of murdering a Venezuelan model in 2000. Her body was found dumped in a sewage canal. This happened, uh, the story of this 23-year-old, Marquez was shot on May 13th.

• 1:11:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, um, yeah, she was shot on May 13th, this model right here in Mexico, because she got a Gucci purse or Louis Vuitton purse from somebody else, and it was one of the fans that sent it to her. And he wasn't, he wasn't too happy about it.

• 1:11:31Speaker 10

  Apparently, the murders are actually up by over 700 deaths. So again, you nailed it. You don't know, that's numbers that we're getting. We don't know the stats.

• 1:11:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't know the data.

• 1:11:39Speaker 10

  Careful if you go to Mexico.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, uh, and especially if you look like this. But, and if you, uh, uh, now, if you look like that, there's other places. Oh, you're gringo. Yo quiero tu dinero. I actually think, I, I actually think you would farewell in Thailand.

• 1:11:55Speaker 10

  Oh, no, my friends there doing some dirty work out there.

• 1:11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I think you would farewell over there.

• 1:11:59Speaker 10

  Shout out to our buddy that's out there.

• 1:12:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's talk about another story, something that's very sentimental to, uh, Vinnie. Netanyahu offers Iran water. Uh, Iran water crisis help if regime removed amid shortage. So apparently, in, is this it, Rob?

• 1:12:16Speaker 10

  Yes, sir.

• 1:12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, I mean, he's just, go ahead, Rob.

• 1:12:21Speaker 10

  And action for the water. Oh, he's trolling, this is so.

• 1:12:27Speaker 22

  Today, I'm going to make an unprecedented offer to Iran.

• 1:12:31Speaker 22

  It relates to water. The Iranian people are victims of a cruel and tyrannical regime that denies them vital water. Israel stands with the people of Iran, and that is why I want to help save countless Iranian lives. Here's how. Iran's meteorological organization says that nearly 96% of Iran suffers from some levels of drought. Issa Kalantari, a former Iranian agriculture minister, said that 50 million Iranians could be forced out of their homes due to environmental damage. 50 million. Millions of Iranian children are suffering due to mismanagement, to incompetence, and the theft of vital resources by the Iranian regime. Now, Israel also has water challenges.

• 1:13:15Speaker 22

  We've developed cutting-edge technologies to address them. Israel recycles nearly 90% of its wastewater. That's far more than any other country on earth. We invented drip irrigation. Our technology targets individual plants with exactly the nutrients they need for each plant. Israel has the know-how to prevent environmental catastrophe in Iran.

• 1:13:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So, by the way, he's going about it to kind of, you know, get the people of Iran against the government, which totally makes sense. But this is also happening, and a part of this story is true.

• 1:13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Because as you read this story, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian warned of severe water shortages, with Reuters reporting that Iran could face critical shortages as soon as next month, worsened by five years of drought and poor resource management, as seen at the Amir Khabir Dam near Tehran, okay? So, there is credibility on what's going on with Iran and the water story. However, the president responds back, and he mocks Netanyahu over pledge of help in water crisis. He says he mocked Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who offered to help to help Iran water crisis, stating on X, "A regime that deprives Gaza of water and food now says it will bring water to Iran. A mirage, nothing more."

• 1:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he has retweeted that to say he's not trying to help us. He's just kind of giving a little bit of troll work here. First, look at the difficult situation of Gaza and defenseless people, especially children who are struggling because of hunger, lack of access of potable water and medicine because of a siege by the brutal regime. His remarks respond to Netanyahu's Tuesday video. "After promising Israeli water, expects experts would assist Iran once its current regime is replaced," per the Jerusalem Post. Pezeshkian responds, saying, "We do not have water. We do not have water under our feet, and we do not have water behind our dams. So you tell me what we do." He described the situation as "we are in a serious and unimaginable crisis",

• 1:15:19Patrick Bet-David?

  noting his administration is consulting experts to find solutions. So, the water crisis is real. Netanyahu is trolling. Masoud responds, bringing in Gaza. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:15:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, they were actually offering a high-tech solution. I don't know if you know this, Vinnie.

• 1:15:35Speaker 10

  What?

• 1:15:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Basically, they told them, we're gonna let you know when the water's gonna be there, and you'll get a signal on this pager. Everyone take one.

• 1:15:46Speaker 10

  Show up when the pager goes off.

• 1:15:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, so, no, I think, so, let's face it. There's grandstanding going on both sides of this because Netanyahu sounds like he was doing a UN climate speech. If you listen to that, close your eyes and just picture him in front of the UN and all that green marble or whatever it is down there. He sounds like a UN speech. So, is he trying to help? Is, yeah, maybe, but probably not. I think what he's really trying to do is just get the Iranian, drive a spike on the Iranian people and to get some of the moderate Iranian people who are upset about the fact that they're in this war-torn country and that they want regime change, they want new leadership, they want somewhere to go, the future, while looking at the rich past they've had.

• 1:16:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Netanyahu's pointing right at those people, trying to get those people. Here's another reason, man, they can't even get you water, and I'm willing to help.

• 1:16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie?

• 1:16:40Speaker 10

  I mean, listen, I'm gonna go straight up to, besides Bibi's plan of, you know, the Greater Israel, he wants to, you know, he wants to, he wants to expand, he wants to dominate, he doesn't want, you know, his enemies being, being surrounded by him. So, he's trying to take over, and I get it from that angle, but Iranians had such a huge window of opportunity a couple of months back when everything was going on, when Israel and America were starting to bomb and everything, and we talked about it, this was their moment, Tom, this was the moment, rise up, get in the streets, do your thing. What happened? Dud. It's like a firecracker that goes. And nothing happens at the end, okay? So now, this is what's starting to happen, okay? You have leaders trying to say, hey, listen, guys, if you're, you know, rise up, one of you guys step up,

• 1:17:25Speaker 10

  somebody do something, we'll give you water, because if not, what it's going to come to is Israel is going to keep putting the pressure on, and it's gonna, they're gonna get involved even more than they are. He even said that he was. And then America's gonna obviously get involved too, because there are allies. So this all goes back to what you said months ago. The people had a chance. I don't care if it was Reza Pahlavi, somebody, get in the streets. Get in the streets, because if not, this is the type of stuff that's gonna be coming.

• 1:17:51Adam Sosnick?

  When you get in the streets, you die, though.

• 1:17:52Speaker 10

  No, no, no, not Adam. If everybody said enough is enough, you're not gonna kill everybody, bro. There's no way. There's no way, not at that moment.

• 1:18:00Adam Sosnick?

  You don't think the Iranian regime will kill all their people?

• 1:18:02Speaker 10

  Adam, I think the people, the voice of the people are way too strong. If everybody said, "F you."

• 1:18:07Adam Sosnick?

  What evidence do you have of that? Because I have 46 years of evidence. They don't give a shit what the people think.

• 1:18:12Speaker 10

  Adam, when has everybody gone in the streets? Literally, I'm talking about, nobody go to work and then people rise up.

• 1:18:17Adam Sosnick?

  He's playing in reality. They will kill every single one of their citizens.

• 1:18:21Speaker 10

  I don't believe that. Well, guess what, Adam? Is it worth it? Is it worth it? Then being-

• 1:18:24Adam Sosnick?

  They're clinging to power.

• 1:18:25Speaker 10

  No, I'm not, I'm talking about the people. The people don't like what's happening, Adam.

• 1:18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, as much as, this is the conversation. Both of you are right. It is the conversation. You know, yesterday I'm asking Bustamante, for 39 years, 37 years, the Shah was president, the king of Iran. Kissinger doesn't help him, he falls. Four countries unite against the fall of Iran. Now, for 46 years, they've been the leaders, and nothing's happened. Now what? It's, oh, it's gonna be a peaceful, like when Reza Pahlavi says, "It's gonna be a peaceful." No, it's not. Rob, did you, did you see the, the, the thing I sent you with the water shortage in Iran? I don't know if you saw that or not. Check this out, how bad it is. Yes. When you look at this chart, Vinny, oh my God.

• 1:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  This is water shortages spark. Remember, Michael Burry said at the end of Big Short in the movie. He said, "The next biggest thing to look at is water." When I went to Harvard, there was a guy there that learned how to build a plant to make water. He says, "This is the future goal. This is what you're gonna want. Look at this here." Water shortages sparked in protests in Iran. Extreme drought. Look at the left side there. Abadan, you see, uh, Ghazistan. Severe drought is the orange, all over the place. Moderate drought, abnormal dryness. So Tehran is okay, when you look at Tehran, but all the other places, man. It is not looking good in Iran. Adam?

• 1:19:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, Bibi Netanyahu is just completely trolling his enemies at this point, specifically in Iran. He did a video when he assassinated one of Hamas's things, and he takes out the glasses and he's like, Netanyahu, Bibi Netanyahu. He's the James Bond of the Middle East. Even if you hate Israel, make these concessions. He's eliminated Hamas, he's eliminated Hezbollah in Lebanon, he's basically, uh, done a deal with the Houthis, you don't hear much from them anyways. Iran is a sitting duck. They've taken out their nuclear capabilities, Syria's been dismantled. Again, even if you hate Israel, this is truth, truth, truth, truth, truth. Israel has completely embarrassed their enemies.

• 1:20:37Adam Sosnick?

  But what the Iranians are doing, it's the same playbook. Ready for the playbook?

• 1:20:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Give it.

• 1:20:42Adam Sosnick?

  But Gaza! Yeah, uh, President of Iran, Ayatollah, uh, you've killed X amount of people, but Gaza! Hey, Syria, what's going on? But Gaza! It's the but Gaza defense. And here's what Bibi Netanyahu thinks about Gaza. He doesn't give a shit. Clearly, he's gonna do what he wants to do. He'll take it over, and you ain't gonna do a thing about it. Because it's a doggy dog world in the Middle East, it ain't the Midwest, and these people only understand strength. I don't operate that way. You don't operate that way. Why? Why don't we operate that day? Because we live in America! And we don't have to, "Oh my God, we're gonna get killed today unless you live in Shirek." We have oceans, we don't have to worry about all this. People in Israel are on edge.

• 1:21:26Adam Sosnick?

  Every single, Andrew Bussamati made it some great points, he's like, "They don't operate the way we do." The, uh, the way we, every day, they're paranoid. They think they're gonna get blown up, and that's the way they operate. By the way, compare Iran to Israel, it's not even close. Israel is a leading country in the world when it comes to desalination and technology of water. By the way, they're in the Middle East. What is the Middle East known for? Desert. There's no water there. Iran has basically, zero water to drink, what's that thing? But the last point is this, talk about misery and happiness. The happiest country in the Middle East is which country? Israel. One of the least happiest countries in the Middle East is Iran. They're not happy in that side of the world.

• 1:22:10Adam Sosnick?

  The angriest people you said were the Lebanese, the Turks, and another country over there. They're not happy there. They don't have freedom there. Some people have safety, but they don't have freedom. Last thing, GDP per capita in Israel? One of the highest in the Middle East, one of the highest in the world, 53,000 per person. That means the average person, 53,000. Do you know what the misery index and the GDP per capita is in Iran? $4,000.

• 1:22:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:22:35Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, that's what people make in a month, that's what they make in a year. And it gets worse in Yemen, in Syria, in Afghanistan. They're very poor and very miserable there.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, somebody could say, well, it's because of sanctions we put on them, so nobody does business with them. But there's a reason, because you don't have diplomacy. But if you go to this, I just asked a question, I said, how bad is the water shortage in Iran? Look what it says. It says, as of 2025, Tehran's main reservoirs were holding only 13% of the capacity. With Lard Dam, Rob, can you type in picture Lard Dam? Just type in picture just to see what Lard Dam looks like. Lard Dam is only at 1% of capacity of water, Vinny.

• 1:23:12Adam Sosnick?

  Damn.

• 1:23:13Patrick Bet-David?

  1% of capacity of water. It's 1% full. And then inflows were down 28% year over year. Karaj Dam dropped 58%, Lard down 34. Tehran is down 33. While Latian and Mambo together decreased 47%. Nearly half of Iran's provinces are officially water stressed, outpacing available supply. The nation is experiencing not just a drought, but what many call water bankruptcy. With looming day zero scenarios. Day zero scenarios? Sighting running dry within weeks. Weeks. This is not like a issue that's a 10 years away, 20 years away.

• 1:23:50Adam Sosnick?

  It's here.

• 1:23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  This is here, right? And over the past five decades, roughly 70% of Iran's groundwater reserves has been depleted. Tehran, for instance, experiencing land subsidies for up to 25 centimeters per year, indicating collapsing. study revealed over three and a half percent Iran's land area impacting nearly ninety million people is sinking with some regions affected by sinkholes and irreversible ground collapse. This is a real issue they're dealing with over there. And at the end of the day, you can look at the government as an enemy. You can look at Ghamenei or all the president, everything they're doing, but the people are the people are the people. Nearly eighty-five million people, give or take, are suffering with water.

• 1:24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Water is a very, it's a, you don't think about water because you have all these bottles of water here, many times we'll just leave the water, we'll drink a little bit and boom, it's out. And Iranians right now would literally die to have water to give to their kids and their families. So it's tragic what's going on over there.

• 1:24:50Adam Sosnick?

  As an Iranian, who do you blame for Iran not having water?

• 1:24:53Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a hundred percent the government.

• 1:24:54Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, thank you.

• 1:24:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's a hundred percent the government. It's the government's in the way of the people having the life that they can't have. The government will blame Iran, the government will blame US, the government will blame Saudi, the government will blame Israel, government will blame anybody and everybody except themselves.

• 1:25:09Adam Sosnick?

  And what's the whole thing Maslow's hierarchy of needs, you know, food, shelter, water? Think about how many billions Iran has spent on proxy wars, on their nuclear ambitions, on funding terrorism, outsourcing, all the drama that we see in the world, and their people don't have water?

• 1:25:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:27Adam Sosnick?

  This is Iran.

• 1:25:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let's get to the next story. It's tragic with what's going on in Iran, but it's a real thing. It's happening. Next story I want to get into is a different kind of a story, but I'm going to read this and I'm going to give you my thoughts. Trump touts tax relief for vast majority of seniors on Social Security's 90th anniversary. Okay? So when he says this, President Trump's proclamation issued Thursday to mark the 90th anniversary of Social Security Act signed by FDR, described it as a monumental legislative achievement, stating, "To this day, Social Security is rooted in a simple promise: Those who gave their careers to building our nation will always have the support, stability, and the relief." They deserve the proclamation highlights his administration's improvement,

• 1:26:10Patrick Bet-David?

  including technological advances and a reduction in average telephone response. Time from 30 minutes last year to six minutes and 80% decrease. Trump claims these efforts ensure social security now stands stronger and more resilient than ever before. Counting democratic criticism of workforce. And one big, beautiful bill. The administration complete over 3.1 million payments ahead of schedule totaling $17 billion to eligible beneficiaries and the proclamation notes provisions in the Republican spending package signed last month allow the vast majority of seniors who receive social security to pay absolute nothing in taxes on their benefits, which Trump calls the largest tax break for seniors in the history of our country, Rob. So is this him signing it?

• 1:26:52Speaker 05

  This is, and then he praises the social security commissioner.

• 1:26:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:26:58Speaker 07

  He's brought with him some of the most talented people in business and they were making, again, they were making a lot of money, but they made a lot of money they had money they didn't have to make anymore. And they just want to do this. They want to have our country become strong and good. And that's what's happening and we're doing that in a lot of locations, a lot of areas. You deal with some of the people that are commissioners, that are secretaries of state, of secretaries of treasury and commerce, people that were really, really successful people. And they gave all that up to make a very small amount of money. They don't even consider it a fraction. You say 1%, less than 1%. That's pretty good. That's a big, that's a big pick.

• 1:27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you see this here. And obviously it's nice, it's great, everything that they're talking about, but then when you get your social security statement that comes in and many of these letters, it tells you the account's going to be insolvent by 2033, that it's going to run out of money. And one part that we don't think about, every president is afraid of having the social security conversation. They're all afraid of it. You know why? It's a big voter base. And if you don't get it, you're not going to win midterms, you're not going to win elections, you're not going to win any of that stuff. But I'm not running for office, okay? If you're younger watching this, you're going to pay a price for it. I'm talking to the guys that are in their twenties and their thirties. Watch this here. Rob, can you go back and type in?

• 1:28:28Patrick Bet-David?

  When, when FDR came out with social security, what was the life expectancy in America? So I'll tell you while he's pulling this up. FDR comes out with social security in 1935. Life expectancy at the time was 61 years old. Okay? 61 years old was life expectancy.

• 1:28:47Speaker 10

  Wow.

• 1:28:47Patrick Bet-David?

  At that time. Okay? 61 years old, right there. Do you know when benefits were paid out? 65 years old. So at the time, benefits were paying out four years after the average American died. So do you know the first time, when they came out with social security became law? The first time they paid out social security was in 1937. 1937, they used to pay social security in lump sum. Do you know in 1937, how many people in America got social security? You know what the number is? Can you type in? How many people got social security the first year they paid it out? It's roughly 54,000 people that got social security the first year, give or take. Not, not, not 1940, 1937 is the first year they paid it out.

• 1:29:31Patrick Bet-David?

  How many people in 1937 got social security? It's 54,000 people, give or take. Do you know in 1937, when 54,000 people got social security? Do you know how, what the US population was at the time? 53,000 people got social security? Do you know what the US population was at the time? The US population at the time was 128 million people. So let's do some math, Vinny. I know you like math.

• 1:29:55Speaker 10

  I love it.

• 1:29:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you type in US population 1937? Tom, you know where I'm going with this. Watch this. Let's do math.

• 1:30:00Adam Sosnick?

  I'm right with you.

• 1:30:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So, if you do, 54,000 people got benefits, out of 128 million people, let's do the math. You know what the number is? It should be .004%.

• 1:30:14Speaker 10

  Wow.

• 1:30:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So.

• 1:30:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Today, what's our population?

• 1:30:19Adam Sosnick?

  330 million. Almost 400 million.

• 1:30:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So if we apply this into today's math, so let's take this times 340 million people. To use FDR's formula today, only 143,000 people should be getting social security today. Do you know how many people got social security payments? Can you pull up the number, please, what it is?

• 1:30:41Adam Sosnick?

  Probably 50 million people.

• 1:30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  74 million people are getting social security checks today. The number is right there. 74 million people are getting social security checks today. So let me get this straight. We started off in 37. Average age was, uh, uh, life expectancy was 61. Benefit started at 65. Only 54,000 people got the benefit out of 128 million. .0004 percent. You apply to today on 340 million, it should be only 143,000. Yet 74 million plus got it. And if we apply FDR's calculation on when social security benefit should start, you know when it should be? Rob, can you do me a favor?

• 1:31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the life expectancy today of Americans?

• 1:31:28Adam Sosnick?

  Like, you guys wanna guess?

• 1:31:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's, let's, what is, what is?

• 1:31:31Adam Sosnick?

  72? More than that, buddy.

• 1:31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it today? What is it today?

• 1:31:36Adam Sosnick?

  High 70s, low 80s.

• 1:31:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it today? 78. Okay, do you know what that means? If we use the same exact principle of social security starts four years later, 61, 65, and that was when we were living 61. Now you go to 78. You know when benefits should start? At 84 years old. If we use FDR's formula, social security today should start at 84 years old.

• 1:32:02Adam Sosnick?

  People are normally dying around 78.

• 1:32:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but by the way, nobody is going to agree to this.

• 1:32:08Adam Sosnick?

  No way.

• 1:32:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Because no one's gonna get elected. Except for the youth.

• 1:32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're in your twenties and you're in your thirties, you ought to be campaigning for not wanting any social security. But also the debt load is not going to be passed on you because in reality it is. And you're going to be suffering the consequences. So let me get this straight. Median income's not comparable to what it was 20 years ago, 40 years ago, 80 years ago. Where a lot of these boomers, they were able to buy a house and paid off within eight, 10, 12 years. By 22, 23, 25 years old, they had a house. It's not the case today. Your income was able to give you decent, you know, life, not today. On the backs of what? So now they'll say it's the billionaire's fault. It's the rich man's fault. No, it's called, out of all the money

• 1:32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  that America gets in taxes, which is roughly 4.9 trillion dollars of revenue that comes in, tax revenue that comes in. Do you know what percentage is used for entitlement programs? 68% of that income is used for entitlement programs. Let me explain to you what this means. You make 490,000 dollars a year. You're rich. You're doing very good for yourself. Your parents guilt trip you on paying 70% of your 490,000 dollars every year to your cousins, to your siblings, to your grandparents, to your aunts, to your uncles. They guilt trip you. But mom, I worked hard for this 490. Doesn't matter.

• 1:33:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Give it to your cousins. Give it to your uncles. Give it to your aunts. Are you kidding me? Yes. I worked so hard to make 490. Let's take 490,000 dollars of income, time point 68. 333,000 dollars of it should be given to your friends and family. Do you think that's a good idea? If you don't think that's a good idea, why should it be a good idea for 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds that are sitting there saying, what's going to happen with this if their account's going to deplete in 2033? 2035? Are we going to keep adding this? 40 trillion debt, 50 trillion debt. Do you know what our total unpaid commitments we have in debt, not national debt? Our national debt is what roughly, Rob? 38 trillion dollars? Our national debt is 38 trillion dollars. What is our total national debt clock? We'll say what? Let's look at this here.

• 1:34:28Patrick Bet-David?

  37.2 trillion dollars. But what is our complete debt that we have to all the programs combined? Right there, it's on the side. Probably 100 trillion. Right there, it's 105 trillion dollars.

• 1:34:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's our commitment to social security, commitment to everything else that we have. That's your debt. That's your debt. To all the young folks that are watching this, that's your unfunded debt and interest. Forget the 37 trillion dollars. That's it. That you have to pay for. How do you think that money's gonna come? You think we have that much oil? You think we have that much bitcoin? You think we have that much reserve in gold? You think we have that? How much you think we have in gold? You know how much we have in gold? You know what's our gold reserve? How much is our gold reserve up? Can it go to our gold reserve? How much do we have in our US gold reserve? Look at the number. Should be 400, 500 billion, but it's gone up now. But it should be a, a, a, what's the number? What's the dollar amount that we have book value?

• 1:35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, there it is. Overall, the US reserve gold is now 757. Fort Knox alone is 388. We have 757 billion dollars. Oh my God, that's so much money. Go back to the debt clock. You know how much that is? Nothing. That's the change. That's, did you understand what I just said? The change, the gold would simply pay for the change. So if you go to the amount of debt that we have, we're in a bad situation right now. Yep. Bad situation right now. So yeah, you know what? Social Security, let's keep doing it, guys. Let's keep doing it. I think the least somebody should have the brass to do, raise the age to 75. And by the way, you know how it should be? This is how I would do it.

• 1:36:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, push back on this and please give the devil's advocate argument to what I'm saying and tear apart my argument. If you're above 60 years old, guess what? Let's pay you off at the age that we have right now. If you're below 60 years old, benefits starts at 75 years old. We don't have a choice but to do this. Benefits start at 75 years old, not 65. I would go to 80. I'd go to 85. We're living longer. But benefits goes back to 75 years old for anybody under the age of 60. Anyone above the age of 60, you're there, your benefits start at? 75. No, 65 years old, above 60. Okay. Above 60, you get it at 65. Below 60, 75 years old. Tom, thoughts? Argue against it.

• 1:36:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not against it because there, there needs to be a financial restructuring, but I'll be the devil's advocate on the voter's side. Okay? So I recognize that we have a, a spreadsheet that doesn't work. So we gotta do something. But here's gonna be the argument. Wait a minute. I didn't work for a company with pensions. I've got some savings. My wife and I have our individual IRAs. We rolled a couple of small 401ks over when we were with companies that could get us a 401k. And we got our savings and social security. That's what I intended to live on. What do you mean you're just gonna pay me a lump sum? You're supposed to pay me by the month. I've been getting statements from the government that said that I'm gonna get $2,700, $3,200 a month for the rest of my life. My wife's gonna get 1,200.

• 1:37:41Tom Ellsworth?

  That $4,000 plus my savings. I were selling the house. We're moving to Florida. We're gonna get a condo, downsize. That was my plan. You can't change the plan on me. You can't pull the rug out from under me right now. That is the devil's advocate position. That's the voter. And then my other brain says, well, you gotta do it. Greece was going bankrupt, Vinnie. Going bankrupt. Go look up Greece austerity riots. Going back 15 years ago, I believe it was. They said in Greece, we're frickin' broke. And we are one of the... That's right, 15 years ago, uh, May 2010, almost exactly 15 years ago. The government said, we're going broke.

• 1:38:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Guess what? Some of you folks are gonna have to work longer. And then you're gonna have a little less. It's called austerity when you get to retirement. And they're like, wait a minute. Me sitting on the porch with the misses, having little tiny juice glass full of wine, the way we live our lives here. You're, maybe, you're telling me I gotta work longer and I'm gonna get less? Yes. And then they revised it, I believe, twice. And the people went bonkers. You know why the people went bonkers? Cause also in socialism, you know what you had? You had people like me. Sitting in a job and you had people like my niece waiting for that. I want to work at the post office for the rest of my life on a good government job.

• 1:39:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Just get paid, hang out, but I can't get my job until my dad retires. And you're telling me now I gotta wait for him to retire? So this, it was, it was called a barbell reaction where you have two ends of the spectrum are reacting. And then you have the bar in the middle. The youth went bonkers. They're not going to get basically socialist income and 30 hour a week jobs and gets paid their living wage for that. And then the older people said, I get less and I can't retire for another five years. And then you can see what they did. They, they reacted a little bit and they kind of tore up the place.

• 1:39:42Speaker 10

  You think so?

• 1:39:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:39:44Adam Sosnick?

  So I'm going to tell a story, so bear with me. So I've had a, I've had a rough week. My stepdad died and we know that. I went to his funeral and he's been sick for quite some time, but I'd have a very crucial conversation with my mom about life and finances and work. And here's what I said to my mom, who's 74 and I love you, mom. And thank you, Vinnie, for reminding me to call my mom every day. I said, Mom, you're not retiring anytime soon. You need to stay working. You need to make more money and you need to save that money. I love you, I'm here for you. Whatever you, your shortfall is, I got you. But you need to stay working because I want you here to age 100.

• 1:40:29Adam Sosnick?

  And if you're going to be living for the next 25 years, you don't have enough money to last another five years. You need to keep working. There's no retiring for you. And that is exactly the type of conversation that unfortunately many of you need to have with your parents and your grandparents. Because they did not save that money. And it's sad and it's true. People always ask me, Pat, how did you meet Pat? What's, you know, the number one reason I'm here? Number one reason is because that debt clock? Rob, if you can show that. I saw that in 2015 and I said, what the hell is this?

• 1:41:02Adam Sosnick?

  I said, what's going on here? I was at a conference in Vegas, much like we were just at last week. And of course, this is when I was drinking. I'm sitting in the back of the room and I'm hungover and I'm sitting in the back of the room. And it's, you know how the insurance guys are. It's all older white guys and they're all doing their thing. And I'm just, I'm sitting in the back in the room and I hear blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's why millennials are going to be broke. I'm like, what? Millennials are going to be broke? What do you mean? They're like, did you not hear anything we just said for the last hour? I was like, no, I'm hungover. It's Vegas. And I go, what do you mean they're going to be broke? I go, what are we going to do about it? They go, nothing buddy. We're about to retire. That's on you. I was like, what? And I felt inspired to basically start my show.

• 1:41:46Adam Sosnick?

  And I talked to Pat, I was like, Pat, I want to do this thing. It's 2016 at this point. I said, all right, I'm going to help millennials save that money. And I realized that this is a major problem. Here's a little fun fact for you. You talked about social security. I'm fully on the same page with you, Pat, as far as social security. Workers per retiree, that's what social security is founded on. Workers work, they make the money. The retirees who pay into it get to receive the money. In 1940, after FDR did the New Deal, do you know how many workers per retiree there were? Forty-two workers per the retiree. Pat, you ready for this? You know how many workers per retiree now? Two. In 1940, there was 42 workers per each retiree. Now there's two.

• 1:42:31Adam Sosnick?

  And do you think that's going the right way or the wrong way? Life expectancy, then you said was 61. You receive benefits at 65. Now you're living to 85, 90. My grandma is 98 years old. She's going to be 100. People are living longer. And then also, as far as living longer, birth rates are going lower. The math is not in our favor. Social Security was built for a world that we live to 65. We're all living to 85, 95, 100. No wonder this country is going broke. People criticize me. Adam, focus on Epstein, Gaza, Autopen. We're broke.

• 1:43:07Adam Sosnick?

  And we need to focus on saving that money.

• 1:43:09Tom Ellsworth?

  It was supposed to be a small supplement for approximately two years. It's become a pension program for 40 years.

• 1:43:15Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, and it's very sad but true.

• 1:43:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Tilt.

• 1:43:17Adam Sosnick?

  This is why I care so much about this.

• 1:43:19Patrick Bet-David?

  They have to raise the age.

• 1:43:21Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with you.

• 1:43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  They have to raise the age. To the boomers that were listening who got off the podcast when I told you earmuffs. Remember what I said. They have to raise the age. Your kids and grandkids are gonna be destroyed for this one day. All right, let's go to next story.

• 1:43:39Adam Sosnick?

  It should step up.

• 1:43:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story I want to go to is the following. Is Vegas dying? That's the question. Is Vegas dying? The numbers came back. June of 2024 to June of 2025. The amount of visitors going to Vegas dropped 11%. The amount of people visiting Vegas is down 11%. How's that even possible? The airline booking, down. Visitors, down. Vegas tourism, down. Casinos losing billions. All of that happened. Is this the clip, Rob?

• 1:44:09Adam Sosnick?

  I guess.

• 1:44:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play this clip. Go forward.

• 1:44:11Speaker 23

  Hi, Brian and Alan. Well, experts say fewer people are coming to Las Vegas and that largely has to do with money. But international visitors are also down specifically from Canada and Mexico. But experts say Las Vegas relies a lot on their tourism, so it is hitting this city hard. And Las Vegas welcomed nearly 400,000 fewer visitors this June. That's compared to the same time last year. That's an 11% drop, the first double-digit decline since 2021. And it's not just tourists, convention traffic. A major moneymaker here is also down. Those big conferences and expos bring in high spending of visitors. And the cost of visiting adds up fast.

• 1:44:53Speaker 23

  Between resort fees and service charges, vacationing here can be more expensive. Even the city's airport is feeling the impact with passenger traffic falling more than 6% last month.

• 1:45:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's insane when you hear that, right? So now think about this. That's going on. With Vegas, taking a hit the way that they have. Then reports come with alcohol. I'm gonna combine these two together a little bit. Go through the reports with alcohol, Rob. I don't know if you have that or not. It says, why are Americans, why Americans are rethinking, let me go to what page that is. What page is that on, Rob?

• 1:45:25Speaker 05

  Uh, page eight.

• 1:45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Page eight, okay. Why Americans are rethinking drinking alcohol. And there's a poll that came up from Gallup. You have to see this number here, okay? If you show the chart, Rob. Gallup poll conducted in July found that 53% of US adults now believe moderate drinking is bad for their hair, a record high, up from 28% in 2015, 28% in 2015. It nearly 2Xed with 2/3 of 18 to 34 year olds viewing it as unhealthy. 2/3 of 18 to 34 year olds, what were you doing at 18 to 34? Drinking, right?

• 1:45:58Speaker 05

  Everyday.

• 1:45:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So viewing it as unhealthy compared to, uh, 4 out of 10 in 2015. And while other adults are concerned, rose, uh, half Americans 55 or older agreeing up to, uh, up from 2 in 10, oh my god, that's, that's nearly 3Xed. And the shift is driven by growing, uh, evidence that alcohol consumption, even in moderation, leads to negative health outcomes, including, uh, being a leading cause of cancer, as noted by health professionals, Lydia Gallup, Lydia Assad, Gallup's director, US Research stated, older adults have lived through an era where there was more of a mixed message about alcohol, so it may take them a little bit longer to absorb this information. Look at that chart right there. Lowest, okay, lowest number. So, when you combine these two stories, why, why did I combine these two stories?

• 1:46:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So, when you think about the youth today, is, is a fun weekend for them going to Vegas like it was for us?

• 1:46:53Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 1:46:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not. Uh, do they wanna go watch the shows? No. Do, do, do they need to go to Vegas to gamble? No, there's an app for that. Do they need to go to Vegas to meet a girl? No, there's Tinder for that. We're in LA with one of our guys, don't mention the name, don't mention the name, I'm not mentioning the name. One of the guys like, I wanna see if the quality of Tinder's gonna be good here, uh, in LA. It's 11 o'clock at night.

• 1:47:15Speaker 05

  The talent, I didn't say talent.

• 1:47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the next day he was upset. He's like, yeah, it's not as good as I thought, it's better in Miami, or it's better in Florida, right? Remember that conversation, right?

• 1:47:23Speaker 05

  His exact words were, I'm disappointed by the caliber of women out here.

• 1:47:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So, guess what?

• 1:47:28Speaker 05

  And it was not me, for the record here, guys.

• 1:47:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but, what's the, well, you came back at 2:30 in the morning, but that's a different conversation.

• 1:47:33Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 1:47:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, but, but. And you were on Grindr.

• 1:47:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he was not grand, it was Bumble, but so, so while-

• 1:47:41Tom Ellsworth?

  I have what is called real life friends.

• 1:47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  But here's the point, the point I'm making to you is the following. The, the guy that said that-

• 1:47:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm gonna kill you, Tom.

• 1:47:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Is in his twenties, late twenties.

• 1:47:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:47:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, may have just turned thirty. And he's saying, "Look at the market where I'm at. Why would I need to go to Vegas?

• 1:47:59Tom Ellsworth?

  True.

• 1:47:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would I need to go to Vegas to gamble? Why would I need to go to Vegas to meet girls? Why would I need to get to Vegas to, for what? For the Raiders? That's eight games a year. Eight games a year, maybe I'll go to Vegas. Aside, do I want to go watch, you know, the Bellagio show, the O? Do I want to go watch the Blue Man Show? Do I want to go watch any of that stuff? I have access to all of that stuff on YouTube, okay? I have to save some money. Prices are going up for me, I have, my income's not going up as much as it should. I need more savings. And then with alcohol? I mean, more and more and more people today are obsessed with health. When I was interviewing Chip Wilson ten years ago, the founder of Lululemon. Funny guy, we're sitting there, we're somewhere in, uh, uh, by the water, I don't know if we're Newport Beach, Santa Monica.

• 1:48:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sitting there, he says, "In the next twenty years, everyone's gonna be in shape." I said, "Why do you say that?" He says, "Because everyone's gonna wear smart clothes." I said, "What's smart clothes?" He says, "The clothes are gonna tell you, stand up, walk around, temperature's this, go over there, do this, you know, drink water, go over, eat this, time to eat something, don't eat too much." This is, he says, "The entire data is gonna be given to you where everyone's gonna be smarter when it comes down to health." I had a friend of mine, neighbor, that came and visited us yesterday.

• 1:49:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's telling me about the difference between lifespan and health span. Okay, lifespan is how long you live, but maybe you don't enjoy the last fifteen years of your life. Health span is how long you live while you're healthy. Everybody today is concerned about how long they live a healthy life. So man, it's a bad time for Vegas, think about it.

• 1:49:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Great.

• 1:49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Used to be hot, but it's a bad time for Vegas. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:49:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think he's absolutely correct, and what I look at is, uh, in preparing for this, I sat back and I just had a quick synapse in the old brain, and I'm like, "Wow, you know what, I know it's just my feed, but when I also talked to Kim about it- In Instagram, I look at how many influencers are out there talking about health. Gary Breck is talking about health. I won't mention a bunch of other names, but we all know who they are. And some of them are out there just, you know, selling the latest program, like they've always done. But there is an awareness on there about, about health. And there's also been an awareness about diet. And guess what?

• 1:50:22Tom Ellsworth?

  The younger generation right now, with the cost of, of food where it went. Now, eggs have come back down and we can stop the egg jokes about, "Oh, I've got eggs. She'll date me. She thinks I'm rich." So you've got a, a big awareness about health and you also have a cost issue. And, and I think that you have the vanity that is on Instagram about look good, feel good. And that vanity leads to bad sides of health, like, "Oh, just take Ozempic. Take the fat shot." What's the worst that could happen to you? It turns out, apparently, you know, allegedly, an awful lot of side effects, apparently, that are physiological side effects to taking Ozempic and that aren't so good. And then there's the other side of it.

• 1:51:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, maybe I don't need to eat a Big Mac. Maybe I don't need to eat, you know, a big grease bomb like that.

• 1:51:11Speaker 10

  A McRib.

• 1:51:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And people, people are thinking about it. And people have been thinking about sugar and Coke. And you finally have folks talking about soda machines in schools are still there, but there's a lot of folks out there that are pushing for it. And now, you, you bring all that youth together that is having this awareness. And socially speaking, they don't want to go to Vegas to go on a bender. And they can watch all these programs elsewhere, and it's expensive. And so, they sit there, "I can barely afford housing, so where is my disposable income?" They're not spending on cable. And I guess they're not spending on alcohol. I guess it's all coming back down. I think there's a budget part of it and a health part of it.

• 1:51:53Speaker 10

  And, and you make a great point. When we were in Vegas, me and Adam were sharing a room. And while we were cuddling and I was a big spoon. We went to the mini.

• 1:52:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, that's our secret.

• 1:52:01Speaker 10

  We went to the minibar. If you, did you see, you guys were in a different room, but if you move anything or try to put personal items inside the minibar and the sensor goes off, it's a $50 surcharge. Okay, and look at.

• 1:52:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, like if you brought a.

• 1:52:14Speaker 10

  You didn't know?

• 1:52:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob's face. You had a bottle of water and you want to put it in a fridge, like you would do at the Marriott Courtyard. Don't do that in Vegas and bump something.

• 1:52:22Speaker 10

  Yeah, bucket of Coors Light, $290 if you want to go by the pool and all that stuff. It's unbelievably priced. They need to do a major shift. Maybe they could go to Bet David Consulting and have you guys talk to them. But you know, I realized too, when you said, you don't need the girl, like everything's online. You could swipe and get your girls. Did you find it weird in our hotel? When you walked around, there was a camera and there was just a dealer and they're gambling around the world. Why do you need to even go to Vegas? Drake does it. All these guys are at home winning millions, losing millions. You don't even.

• 1:52:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Did you see the big glass enclosed stage that was filmed everywhere with four games going on it? With all the identically dressed dealers.

• 1:53:02Speaker 10

  Oh, no.

• 1:53:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Men and girls, there was the typical.

• 1:53:04Speaker 10

  Tom, the guys were hot too. Like, don't.

• 1:53:06Tom Ellsworth?

  They were all there. That's right.

• 1:53:08Speaker 10

  The hottest. Hot. No, but I mean, why even?

• 1:53:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Including that roommate you had, apparently.

• 1:53:12Speaker 10

  And mind you, as somebody that stopped drinking over two years ago, I think it's fantastic. And especially with the drinking, because you know what? When you eat too much food, what do people say? Yeah, I was full. I need to lay down. When you drink too much alcohol, you know what they say? It's alcohol poisoning. It's poison. So, good. Good.

• 1:53:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, shout out to Vinny. He hasn't drank in how many years?

• 1:53:32Speaker 10

  Two years, two months.

• 1:53:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And he's been a good influence on me because I think I've cut down my drinking 90%.

• 1:53:38Speaker 10

  Humberto's been sober for.

• 1:53:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not worried about that guy. Let's focus on us. You know how they say.

• 1:53:43Speaker 10

  I'm two years, two months, 14 days.

• 1:53:45Tom Ellsworth?

  You're down to five martinis a day? That's incredible. Tom, you drink fake alcohol to look cool.

• 1:53:49Speaker 10

  No, Tom, I've seen Tom put it down, bro. You don't know, Tom.

• 1:53:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And then he does his.

• 1:53:54Speaker 10

  On the way here, you should see Tom drinking on the way.

• 1:53:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly. Tom's drunk now.

• 1:53:58Adam Sosnick?

  We're recovering a story.

• 1:53:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, you're collecting retirement in two years. Relax.

• 1:54:03Speaker 10

  Wow.

• 1:54:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Um.

• 1:54:04Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, boy.

• 1:54:07Adam Sosnick?

  This guy just called me on Grindr. I say that you're, I say his actual age. Whoa. Let's not do this, guys.

• 1:54:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, one's an observation, the other's discrimination.

• 1:54:18Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, discrimination against old gay people is what you're saying. Anyway, let's focus, let's stay on track here before Tom does his bubbler again. Here we go. So you know what they say, what happens, what happens at Vegas stays in Vegas? What happens if nobody goes to Vegas? You know where people are going instead of Vegas these days? Miami, and I'm not sure if you've noticed, Miami's up, up, up, up. Shout out to Mayor Francis Suarez. Why do you go to Vegas anyways? It's for three things. Two, gamble, drink, or party. In whatever order you want. Gamble, drink, party. You can do all that in Miami, but Miami has one thing that Vegas does not have. The beach, the sun, the fun. You don't have to go to Miami and drink and party. Go work out on the beach, go on a boat, go on a yacht ride, have a great time.

• 1:55:02Adam Sosnick?

  Miami is the new Vegas. New York is done, LA's done. It's all about Miami. Look where we live in sunny South Florida. You go to Miami, you go to 11, you go to Bodega.

• 1:55:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to New York.

• 1:55:13Adam Sosnick?

  You go to the, you go to the, Miami, Miami, Miami.

• 1:55:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Traffic.

• 1:55:19Adam Sosnick?

  There's, there's fountains running around. Go to 11, go to Bodega. Vegas has not been cool since The Hangover, and the little Asian dude jumped out of the trunk like Tom did with the little ding. And there is a tiger in the bathroom.

• 1:55:31Patrick Bet-David?

  What's his name? Carlos. Carlos.

• 1:55:33Adam Sosnick?

  That's true. Baby Carlos.

• 1:55:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Baby Carlos, yeah. No, I mean, look, the, the reality of it is, this is what's going on with Vegas. It's not the same. We were there. We were there last week. We brought, we tried to help Vegas. We brought nearly 10,000 people there. And I actually like going to Vegas because I go to a couple of restaurants every time I'm there and, you know, I've watched almost every one of the shows. There's good memories of being in Vegas, but it ain't, it ain't, it ain't what it was before. We do our events in Vegas at the MGM Grand Arena, and we get our guys to be locked and focused, to not go and gamble and stay locked in for 34, 5 days. And we're able to do, we've been doing that for many, many years, but. Unfortunately, it's not what it wants.

• 1:56:12Adam Sosnick?

  But it's helping the city. They're buying lots of room nights or paying for restaurants.

• 1:56:16Patrick Bet-David?

  That's our event last week.

• 1:56:17Adam Sosnick?

  What was the top picture, Rob?

• 1:56:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The top picture is.

• 1:56:19Adam Sosnick?

  Who's that guy?

• 1:56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Hummer mechanic, baby. Look at this guy. Sixty-three Bravo.

• 1:56:24Adam Sosnick?

  Look at that guy.

• 1:56:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I had a certification called Hotel Eight, which is you try to pull trucks out of the mud with an LMTV or an FM TV. That's what I did before.

• 1:56:34Adam Sosnick?

  In ninety-seven, you're solo in a truck. Twenty twenty-five, this is your event, given the keynote speech.

• 1:56:39Patrick Bet-David?

  This is last week.

• 1:56:40Adam Sosnick?

  Pretty cool, Pat.

• 1:56:41Patrick Bet-David?

  We had a very good event. It was such a special event. It was phenomenal. It was phenomenal. I showed a picture of Tom.

• 1:56:46Adam Sosnick?

  Shout out to PHP.

• 1:56:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I showed a picture of Tom, one of the all-time greatest pictures, very emotional picture of Tom.

• 1:56:52Adam Sosnick?

  I could reenact it right now if you'd like.

• 1:56:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not gonna do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.

• 1:56:56Adam Sosnick?

  Making a point. Just making a point.

• 1:56:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's go through here to the next story. Vinny, I'm coming to you with this one. And this is probably gonna be our last story. New Jersey parents applaud new law that could send them to prison for their children's crimes. You got to get the parents involved. All right. So let's see what the story is. We've talked about this on the podcast here for the last two or three years, this specific story. Rob, is that the clip?

• 1:57:19Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:57:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:57:21Speaker 24

  Parents, if they don't prevent their kids from breaking the law, they could essentially face fines up to $2,000 and jail time, up to ninety days in jail. Some parents are outraged saying this sets a dangerous precedent. You know, thanks to cell phones and YouTube, we're seeing more scenes like this play out of country. It's what Gloucester, New Jersey, found itself dealing with last summer with when more than 500 teens arrived at a city party, started a brawl and needed over 100 police to calm the situation. The mayor of Gloucester, addressing this recently, says he may have a solution.

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• 1:58:57Speaker 25

  We have a juvenile crisis in this country. This is not unique to Gloucester Township. But rather, is symptomatic of a larger societal juvenile crisis. And I'll tell you, I don't have all the answers. But one possible answer is to hold parents accountable for their children.

• 1:59:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm. Oh.

• 1:59:22Speaker 10

  What do you think about that? I absolutely, like, finally, finally, this is what the hell's been missing. Okay, let's put aside everything that Trump's doing with DC and Chicago. I have a whole thing I was gonna get into about DC and Chicago and the horrible leadership just from the mayor's side and all that nonsense. But Adam, we talked about this too, about Oh, yeah. Parents that have children that do terrorist crap in this country or mass shootings or anything. You know what? Where were the parents? I forgot which state it was that It was Michigan. Michigan actually had the mom and dad. I know exactly where you're going here, buddy. I love that you remembered it. That the parents in jail time. You live your guns out, you're irresponsible, and your kid does something stupid. I'm sorry, what is this one, Tommy? Read it right there. James and Jennifer, just read it.

• 2:00:05Speaker 10

  Yeah, um, the parents of the Oxford High School shooter, James and Jennifer Crumbly, were sentenced to 10 to 15 years each for the involuntary manslaughter in connection to the 2021 school shooting. Okay? When kids run the street, I'm on you. Is it just me, Rob? Or have you been seeing? All I'm seeing is videos like this of kids running in the streets. They're doing drifting, they're beating the hell out of each other, they're shooting at each other, and zero respect for the law. It all starts at the home. You know what kept me out? Yes, I did a lot of stupid stuff, but you know what kept me from actually losing everything? Knowing that my dad, like, oh my God, my dad, Pat. If my dad found out, I'm pretty sure you're in the same boat. If my dad found out when my mom said those six words, "Wait until your dad comes home", that was the fear. Wait until your father gets home, bro.

• 2:00:50Speaker 10

  That stopped me from doing everything, okay? If the parents don't teach the discipline and the order and all that stuff, it all goes to haywater. It's not the school's job, by the way. It's not the cops' job. It's yours. Parents need to step up, and I guarantee you, if that goes into law, the crime rate, especially with the youth, is gonna drop in Jersey like that.

• 2:01:08Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what's very interesting about this? It's very, very interesting. Insurance companies have something called subrogation. So in other words, your car gets hit in a parking lot by somebody, and you walk out from the store. Oh, my gosh, my car's been hit. People said, hey, it's this guy, this old man backed into you. Your insurance company will quickly get your car fixed. But then they are going to go to the other guy and his insurance company called Subrogation to get the money back, because he's responsible for it. You don't have to do that. You know, Liberty Mutual, whoever you have, takes care of your car. Well, guess what? If an underage child breaks a window on your house, and under your homeowner's insurance, you get it fixed. Do you know what they're gonna send you?

• 2:01:50Tom Ellsworth?

  They are going to send you a questionnaire. And they will call, if that child is under 18, they will call the other child's parents. They will attempt to find a parent or guardian and make them responsible for that window. This is the way it works behind the scenes, so, in the insurance industry. So why should it be so shocking that now people are trying to say, okay, well, if your kid goes out there, commits a misdemeanor, and costs the company, the city, some money and things like this, an act of vandalism, then you should pay for it. And if you're gonna be completely responsible and leave guns out there, then just like these people in Michigan, you're gonna do time. I love it, because it's, you are responsible for your kids.

• 2:02:36Speaker 10

  Adam, thoughts?

• 2:02:37Adam Sosnick?

  So, I upset a couple of people last week, or, when I said that you should hitch your kids more often.

• 2:02:43Speaker 10

  Hitch? Like hitch 'em?

• 2:02:44Adam Sosnick?

  No, hitch.

• 2:02:45Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, don't hook 'em up.

• 2:02:46Speaker 10

  Hitch 'em.

• 2:02:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, no, oh, gosh.

• 2:02:48Adam Sosnick?

  Hitch 'em. Not Hitch, not Will Smith, no. Uh, but sometimes...

• 2:02:51Speaker 10

  Did you hit that?

• 2:02:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, you're being very inappropriate, Tom. Tom, what'd you mean by, did you hit that?

• 2:02:58Adam Sosnick?

  Keep going.

• 2:02:59Tom Ellsworth?

  No, Tom, explain.

• 2:03:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 2:03:02Adam Sosnick?

  Adam.

• 2:03:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to add one more story.

• 2:03:03Adam Sosnick?

  Don't go, hit it like the kid, go for it. I'll start over. I made some, Rob, you're laughing?

• 2:03:08Tom Ellsworth?

  No, don't start over, just pick up where you left off.

• 2:03:11Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, I'm gonna pick you up and drop you off where I found you at the old age nursing home. Well, you can't get on the car, you have to Uber him. You'd have to Uber him. That's right. Unbelievable. Anyway.

• 2:03:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Hope you're, hope you're wearing Nikes.

• 2:03:24Adam Sosnick?

  Speaking of hitting your kids, sometimes you gotta hit your parents and sometimes you gotta hit the people that are responsible for how horrible the kids are. As much as Tom is being annoying today, his kids are absolutely incredible. He's a good parent. Some parents need to be held accountable for how horrible they are. We showed a story last week, some gangster ass lady with tattoos, she's going to jail for some reason because her kid did some murder and they're holding her accountable. I, I was like, oh, if your kid shoots up a school, without question, you go to jail. What do you mean? The parent didn't do this? How, it's a kid, I don't care. Turns out, yeah, this is the lady right here. Oh, turns out she didn't raise the best kid. Model citizen.

• 2:04:07Adam Sosnick?

  Oh no, shocker. Sometimes the parents have to be held responsible for the actions of their kids and sometimes the kids do such bad things, the parents need to be doubly responsible. Throw them up, lock them away, put them in jail. Your kids are shitty, you're a horrible person, everyone's going to jail, straight to jail.

• 2:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Kids are not shitty. Let me tell you, kids are trouble. Parents teach bad habits to the kids. There's more caught than taught in parenting. Okay, kids have a shot in life. If you raise them well, I've met so many kids that are so impressive. Then I want to meet the parents who tell the parents, great job, okay? Vinny just said something powerful, I hope he tweets it out. These six words make America safer, okay? Wait until your dad comes home.

• 2:04:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Those six words, make America safer. Unfortunately, when the number of single mothers right now and children being born without a father, you can't use that line. Wait until your father comes home. Wait until your father comes home. You can't use that line. It's a very powerful line to make America safer. Last story here, Tom and Adam, this is the one you guys wanted to talk about, so I'm gonna come to you here.

• 2:05:17Adam Sosnick?

  Uh oh.

• 2:05:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you guess how many retire with five million dollars? Here's a hint. Almost no one. Ninety-nine point nine percent fall short. Okay, so let me read the story to you. Five million bucks is the number that we're talking about. Fewer than one tenth of one percent of retirees have five million dollars or more, meaning only about one in a thousand reach this mark. While only three percent achieve the one million dollar milestone, according to analysis by Employee Benefit Research Institute using federal reserve survey data. Uh, uh, data from DQY DJ shows four point eight million US households or three point seven percent of a net worth of five million dollars or more in 2023. Including non-liquid assets like home equity and businesses which may not directly support retirement income.

• 2:06:02Patrick Bet-David?

  A five million dollar net egg allow, nest egg allows a four percent annual withdrawal.

• 2:06:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Rate yielding two hundred thousand dollars yearly before taxes, providing resilience against inflation, market swings and health expenses. The article highlights that, uh, reaching five million dollars requiring high earning, uh, careers, disciplined savings, wise investing and smart business decisions or luck with tips, including working with a financial advisor. As a good one can help you make, map out a realistic plan, stress test against market swings and adjust it as your life changes. Adam?

• 2:06:37Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, Tom, you can go first, sir. I'm just pulling something up.

• 2:06:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, uh, this doesn't surprise me. Um, even in the areas where you have, um, very, very dramatic appreciation in homes. The average American, you know, through even. Even an IRA that was pegged to Nvidia and Apple sequentially, you know, you're not going to retire with this amount of money. The average American retires with far less, which is the savings crisis that we have in America, which is also related to what we were talking about Social Security. As Social Security has become a pension plan. So it's sort of interesting to me, they come out with this, the story. How many Americans retire with 5 million? Less than you think. What they should be saying is how many retire with a million? It's less than you think, to really put it in perspective, to see, you know, what's there?

• 2:07:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Because, you know, $50,000, 20 years, that's a million, you know? And so if you retire and that's four grand a month, a little over four grand a month, yeah, that goes quick. And so the headline to me, kind of, you know, is making a point and trying to get clicks. But the real issue is just how many Americans don't have the basic savings to even supplement Social Security? And now, Social Security has got a change that we already talked about.

• 2:07:53Speaker 17

  Adam?

• 2:07:54Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, you're not going to be a millionaire. You, you're also definitely not going to be a billionaire, because the odds are not in your favor. How many billionaires are in America? Thousand or so? How many millionaires are in America? There's 23 million millionaires. The percentage of people that retire with a million dollars in the bank, 3%. The percentage of people that retire with 5 million dollars in the bank, .01%. Now, if you ask the millennial, an average dude, he's 30 years old, are you going to be a millionaire? It's like, of course. 50% of millennials think they're going to be millionaires. 72% of Gen Z think that they're going to be millionaires. You're not. However, what country gives you the best chance to be a millionaire?

• 2:08:39Adam Sosnick?

  It's not even a question, it's the United States. The problem with most people is they don't play the long game. You know the average age when someone becomes a millionaire? Do you know it? 60 years old. Everyone wants to get rich quick, put this microwave hustle society. The reality is, you'd rather look rich than actually be wealthy. The only way to be wealthy is work, earn, save, invest, and do that year in and year out, and don't stop. It might take you a decade, it might take you a few decades. But if you do it the right way and save that money, you will become a millionaire. But not pipe dreaming that you're just going to become a billionaire one day. It's not going to happen.

• 2:09:17Patrick Bet-David?

  In regards to what? You're saying billionaire?

• 2:09:19Adam Sosnick?

  No, there's a 3% chance you become a millionaire. There's a .01% chance you become a billionaire. I know, how many people do you mean?

• 2:09:26Patrick Bet-David?

  .01?

• 2:09:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Less than that, sorry. .01.

• 2:09:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's like .0001.

• 2:09:32Adam Sosnick?

  Correct, correct, correct, correct. The point, yeah. .01% chance you're gonna be a 5 millionaire.

• 2:09:38Speaker 10

  .01?

• 2:09:40Adam Sosnick?

  Hell, I can do it! Tom, help me out here! When you said that, I went, "Wait a minute, I'm not good at math, but are you serious?" But you think that .01 is a good number in your favor? No, but to be a billionaire, it's not, I mean .000 is... .01 of having 5 million dollars. The chances of becoming a billionaire are nonexistent.

• 2:09:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It's .000...

• 2:10:02Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I forgot to carry the decimal.

• 2:10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Or 1 and 3 and 8 and 8. But, but here's, here's the point, listen.

• 2:10:08Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody becomes billionaires. Very few people.

• 2:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, this is the part to be thinking about when it comes down to this, okay? It's, there's nothing worse for you to do than you compare yourself to somebody else without you willing to do what that person has done or is willing to do. It's very simple. You know, we were having a conversation. Our, three of our highest paid employees in the company are all in sales. All of them here. They work for Bedavid Consulting, and if you're somebody that's in sales and you have experience with SaaS, software sales, or you've done consulting sales, go to bedavid.com, apply for the company, okay? Bedavid Consulting.

• 2:10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  These three guys are all above a half a million and they're all gonna make a million dollars, net. They've only been with us for a couple of years. It's not like they've been with us for a long time.

• 2:11:03Adam Sosnick?

  I just applied, by the way.

• 2:11:05Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but you know when, "Oh my god, why don't I get paid more money? Why don't I do this? Why don't I do that?" Guess what?

• 2:11:11Adam Sosnick?

  Some math required.

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, it's, it's not some math requires. They're taking client calls on Sundays. They're doing stuff on Saturday. They're working till 8 o'clock at night. They're, they're, they're choosing to go above and beyond to make the kind of money they wanna make. Great. Don't be upset. Like, "I can't believe that guy drives that car." No, don't be upset. That's that job they chose to take. The, the, one of the guys at Jubilee asked me a question, he says, "How do you feel about nurses?" I said, "To me, they're in the top 10 most honorable professions in America." "Do you think it's fair that nurses don't make as much money as hedge fund people do?" I said, "That's not how life works." Hedge fund solves a bigger problem, and nurses is not a high-paying job, period. If you want to go compare the two, the market pays better for somebody that's able to make financial analysis, and it's not about feelings, not feelings,

• 2:11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  it's what the market pays better for. But if you love being a nurse, guess what? Be a nurse. Yesterday, I asked a question from, uh, my oldest son, dropping him off, and I made a video and I said, "Vinnie, check this out." And he, we, we, uh, Tico? Yeah, we're driving, I'm like, "Tico." I just asked him, I'm like, "Maybe this guy wants to be a teacher one day, I don't know." I said, "Tico, would you want to be a teacher?" "Oh, absolutely not." "Why not?" He says, "I'm so sick and tired of these kids." "Kai?" "You're a kid." But he, he's like a 70-year-old kid. He's 80 years old. He's 80. But you know what it is? And Tom, you're laughing because you know that's his personality. Yeah, he's hilarious. He's not 13. I've had these conversations with him. I know. So, but, but the point is, what you choose to do. Now, let's go the other way around. Let's say you chose to be a nurse.

• 2:12:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's say you chose to be a, whatever the job is, a supporting cast, HR, whatever you're doing. How can you now maximize your earnings potential to later on have a few million dollars, 40 years later, 30 years later? Be better with your money, be frugal, start investing early, create better habits, fight to get equity in the company, work your butt off to move up, so maybe you're gonna participate in bonuses, LTIP, all these other situations, and then you're putting yourself in a, and don't make some dumb mistakes. Avoid the alcohol, avoid the drugs, avoid the bad, stupid things that can potentially cost you so much money. If you don't do those things, you put yourself in a position to be financially free, right? That's what you end up doing. Now, having said that...

• 2:13:24Patrick Bet-David?

  For somebody else that is, you're going for all the marbles and you're working in ways that nobody else is, yeah, you could have an expectation of, we were just in Arkansas, visiting a business, we went to this place called Hot Springs, Arkansas, and we visited this, uh, two business owners, Sean and, uh, and, um, uh, Morgan, and we're there, and we're driving around, we're meeting these 250 employees in their city, they're rock stars, 250 employees work for this company, okay? Bam. They're, they went from being regular guys to building a business that's probably worth right now a hundred, 150 million dollars, and they're probably gonna be able to build this company potentially to half a billion to billion dollar business. Nice. They're at that level now with they've gotten themselves that, that there's a possibility

• 2:14:09Patrick Bet-David?

  with that, but that doesn't mean everybody is capable of doing that, nor do they want to. Yep. Nor do they want, if you don't want to, also don't be envious of the person that becomes that, okay? That's the key. If you don't want to, don't be envious of the guy that becomes that as well, because that person wants it, it's a very big difference. Anyways, Vinny, uh, we're very, uh, honored to know that we do a podcast with somebody that's about to be a billionaire yourself. I appreciate that. And the way you dressed today, honestly, today, Vinny dressed like he owns all of Fort Lauderdale, he's running for mayor, he's... It works. By the way, if you ran for mayor in Fort Lauderdale, it would be the funniest campaign. One of you guys is gonna run for mayor, you, uh, Tom, definitely not Adam, Adam's gonna run mayor of Miami, but in Fort Lauderdale, one of you guys is gonna run.

• 2:14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be interesting. See you in 20 years. Guys, today's what, Friday, first week, we did three days? We did it, guys. Remember, remember, remember the hats, if you didn't get them, these two are going fast, and it's not a lot of them, so if you wanted, one person just ordered, uh, a bunch of them for the entire office, go to VTMerch.com, place the order with the different ones that we have, one is a speckled one, snack back, the other one is the gradient, uh, snapback black, and then the white gold one, which is pretty sick as well, any of these, go to VTMerch.com, place your order, and, uh, add a Future Looks Bright shirt with it. God bless everybody, have a great weekend, we'll do it again next week, take care, bye bye, bye bye.

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