Prison Took His Freedom. Stoicism Gave It Back.

What happens when everything is taken from you and the only thing left is how you think? In this episode, Lamb of God’s lead singer Randy Blythe shares his firsthand prison experience and how Stoicism became more than philosophy and turned into a practical tool for surviving fear, uncertainty, and loss of control. Listen to the full episodes with Randy Blythe: Lamb of God’s Randy Blythe on Fighting Fear With Gratitude EGO, DEATH, FAME: Lamb Of God's Randy Blythe 📚 Books Mentioned: Just Beyond The Light by Randy Blythe Dark Days by Randy Blythe Follow Randy on Instagram and X @DRandallBlythe and check out his Substack✉️ FREE STOIC WISDOM | Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail 📢 Share | ⚙️ Manage Subscription

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• 0:00Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

• 0:15Ryan Holiday?

  Imagine being this good. Even though she was under unimaginable stress, even though she was suffering a parent's worst nightmare, watching as her only child was overcome by mental illness, by depression, by alcoholism, even as she was doing the agonizing work of understanding her own role in her daughter's difficulties, Joan Didion was still writing. Wasn't for publication. It wasn't even for one of her famed notebooks, although I talk about that in Journaling, Chapter of Wisdom Takes Work. No, these were summaries of her therapy appointments for her husband, typed up as their then thirty-something daughter, Quintana, spiraled into addiction. Helpless to save her daughter, but desperate to do whatever she could, Didion was trying to process

• 1:00Ryan Holiday?

  an overwhelming and deeply painful situation. The private thoughts were not intended for anyone but her husband. And yet, when they were discovered in a small file near Didion's desk and published as Notes to John, who carried the book in the painted porch, after the death of all three figures, they make for profoundly moving reading, detailing in Didion's clear and refined writing style what it is like to watch as your child seems bent on self-destruction. They also prove that even in private, Joan Didion was apparently incapable of bad writing. In a way, this is a similar story to Marcus Aurelius's Meditations. We have a man suffering and struggling. We have a man in the midst

• 1:43Ryan Holiday?

  of a very specific, singular experience, being the emperor of most of the world and also having a difficult child. And here he is writing almost entirely for himself. And yet, from the very specific came something universal and helpful to countless people after his death. We have a man whose literary gifts made even his... Personal admonishments to himself into literature. And both of these books, Joan Didion's Notes to John and Marx Realist's Meditations, these private thoughts of influential people going through turbulent times in their lives have resonance in both their writing and their message. Whether the writing was for themselves or for others, their gift was so apparent, their ability

• 2:26Ryan Holiday?

  to reach people. And we're lucky to have this timeless, universal gift available to us now. And if you want to go deeper into meditations, along with me and thousands of other Stoics all over the world, well, this is the time because it is Meditations Month here at Daily Stoic. April is the month Marx Realist was born. And in honor of that wonderful birthday almost 20 centuries ago, we're going to be diving into meditations as a community, doing a kind of book club about it. You can join me in the live session we're going to be doing about it and all of that. If you grab a leather edition of Meditations, grab the Meditations Month bundle. I'll see you in there. Let's do a deep dive together into one of the greatest books of all time.

• 3:20Ryan Holiday?

  So, pretty crazy Friday night, picked the kids up from school, took them to dinner, and then waited for it to get dark, hoped we'd get lucky with this crazy rainstorm that was coming. And headed over to the Moody Amphitheater where we saw Lamb of God play. You got to start them young if you want them to be into heavy metal, right? You got to start them young. Randy Blythe is a friend and a fan. He's been on the podcast a couple times. And he hooked us up with tickets. They were playing. The kids wanted to go to a concert. So we said, oh, let's do it. And it was incredible to watch them play, pouring rain. It wasn't quite Woodstock 98 or whatever that was, but, but it was nuts.

• 4:03Ryan Holiday?

  Bumped into Cody Sanchez's husband there. She had just been on the podcast a few days earlier. But anyways, as the rain was pouring down, we're watching the Artemis launch on the New York Time's app on her phone and watching the rain come in and then they went on and they played. He shouted me out, Randy did at the beginning of the set, which was, you know, unreal. I wish I had video of that, but I was, you know, actually just trying to enjoy the concert. But that made me think it was such a lovely show. He has been on the podcast twice and he told two really good stories that I think are worth sharing. The first is him talking about what it was like to be thrown in a Czech prison for on trumped

• 4:46Ryan Holiday?

  up charges that he was eventually vindicated on, but, but very scary charges. Let me play that because obviously this stoic theme of being thrown in jail and not knowing if your freedom is going to be taken away is a timeless one. And then it's actually something explicitly he turned to stoicism while he was dealing with.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  Towards the end of my drinking, I, you know, I was looking for some sort of answer other than the one that's obviously staring me in the face like, hey, you're an alcoholic. You gotta stop. I went to go see a shrink. His name is Ted. I wish I could remember his last name because I think I still owe him money from our last session. But I was going to him and I was still drinking at the time and I was complaining a lot about, you know, problems I was having in my relationship, my work and, you know, all of this is stemming from my alcoholism. But he's, he's being cool and he's trying to kind of deal with me without directly saying, you gotta get sober, dude, you know, because I was kind of beating around the bush with him. He's like, I want to, do you know who Epictetus

• 5:47Speaker 01

  is? And I'm like, no. He's like, he is a philosopher of the school stoicism, you know, he was a slave and he wrote this book called the Intridian or the, or the manual. And I forget which translation he had. So I bought it and I was reading it and it was making sense, but because I was still deep within the throes of my alcoholism, I could not internalize and really apply the lessons there. But the seed was planted, you know? And then a few years later, when I got sober, I picked Epictetus back up, you know? So that was probably.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  My first year of sobriety. And when I got arrested, I was about a year and a half sober. Reading some of Epictetus at that time, I hadn't gotten into Marcus Aurelius or Seneca yet. But reading Epictetus and trying to, I think I internalized some of like, his external conditions did not define his emotional state. Cause he, you know, was a slave who was, we don't know to what degree crippled, I suppose. And thinking about that and thinking about the end of my drinking, where I was so miserable and just wanted to die. When I was in prison, I was like, this sucks, right? There's no way around it. This is not a good time.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  And, and it's very scary and all that other stuff. But I at least want to live. I at least want to sort of make the best of this situation. Whereas a year and a half ago, I didn't care if I lived or died. But I actually, I wrote a friend of mine from prison where I was like, I would rather do another five, 10 years in here than drink again. Because I think I can survive five or 10 years in here. You never know, but I'm, I think I can do it. But I'm pretty sure I would not survive another round with alcoholism.

• 7:44Ryan Holiday?

  So how does the philosophy hold up then? I mean, you obviously hadn't spent years studying it, but suddenly your freedom is taken from you. And not that dissimilar to the way Epictetus or Stockdale or, or any of the Stoics who sort of experienced this kind of severe adversity. How does it, how does it stand up?

• 8:03Speaker 01

  It stands up 100%. I'm not going to say that I was like this Bodhisattva like figure of calm in prison at all times, you know? Cause that's, I just wasn't. And I, and I was facing a very uncertain future. But the sort of philosophy of, of embracing your current circumstances and not trying to, I don't know, wish futilely that you were anywhere but where you are right at that moment. It works. It works so, so well. I saw people in there who. We're miserable, always thinking, oh, you know, this person did me wrong and that's why I'm here. And or conversely, constantly projecting in the future,

• 8:47Speaker 01

  when I get out of here, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. And I'm like, we have to take care of right here, right now. You know, cuz that's all that really exists. If I have one foot in the past and one foot in the future, I'm pissing on the present. And even though right now sucks, you know, I have to address my situation right now. And I have to be cognizant of the fact that I'm not in like, let's say, Afghanistan or something, getting shot at, you know? I have a roof over my head. Is it leaky and 137 years old? Yes, I have food. Is it terrible? Yes.

• 9:23Ryan Holiday?

  But it's not Stockdale's prison.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  It's not Stockdale's prison. Yes, no, it's not. You know, I know guys who did a lot more time than me and they came out and survived it, you know? And I have a lot of friends that I always bring up, like, you know, as I just did, like Afghanistan or something. I have friends in the in gone through some horrific stuff in the military, you know? It wasn't a good time for me, but I I know people who have been through worse. And that gives me sort of grounding in the state of my current reality.

• 9:57Ryan Holiday?

  Lamb of God has a great song called Memento Mori. It's got almost 70 million streams on Spotify. And he and I talked about that very idea when he was on the podcast. I think you will like it.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  The concept Memento Mori, I'd heard it before I really started tying it with Stoicism, I heard. Someone told me, he's like, oh, the monks, the ancient monks, the Christian monks would would say this, you know? Remember, one day you too shall die. As I get older, and I'm kind of, I'm writing about this in the new book I'm working on some, I think more and more about my mortality. Because physically, I feel it. My body hurts more and more as a 50 year old man who still acts like he's 17 on stage. I feel it more and more and more. And, you know, more and more people that are older than me, their either family or friends are dying. So that is bringing my mortality.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  Closer to my own face, you know? I see people who try and deal with death, I think, by ignoring it. Sure. You know, like, and I think that's actually a huge problem in our culture now. Meditating on death, I think for some people, it's, it seems depressing or whatever. And for me, it's just maintaining a firm grasp on reality and trying to, it encourages me to make the most of what time I have here, you know? It really does because it's fleeting. And the more you become aware of mortality, the, the less time you have to, to waste on, on frivolous things.

• 11:30Ryan Holiday?

  Randy has two great memoirs. His first is called Dark Days, A Memoir. And then his most recent one, which came out in February of 25, it's called Just Beyond the Light, Making Peace With The Wars Inside Our Head. He's a sober guy, a really thoughtful guy and an incredible musician. So thanks to Randy for the tickets and I thought you guys would like this little flashback. You can listen to both episodes with Randy on the podcast and you can catch Lamb of God touring all over the country right now.