Angels, Demons, Nephilim & Giants - The Real Story of The Bible | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 282

Nils Glenn joins us this week to talk about how people have misinterpreted the Bible & shares the real stories of angels, demons, nephilim & giants. Watch this episode ad-free & uncensored on Pepperbox! https://pepperbox.tv/joinunsubscribe WATCH THE AFTERSHOW & BTS ON PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/UnsubscribePodcast 👕 Merch & Shoes https://bunkerbranding.com/pages/unsubscribe-podcast 🔋 Energy Drinks https://drinkechelon.com P. O BOX: Unsubscribe Podcast 17503 La Cantera Pkwy Ste 104 Box 624 San Antonio TX 78257 ------------------------------ THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! PONCHO OUTDOORS Get $10 off your first order and free shipping at https://ponchooutdoors.com/UNSUB when you enter your email. ULTRA Don’t sleep on @ultrapouches. New customers get 15% Off with code UNSUB at https://takeultra.com #UltraPouches #ad GHOSTBED Get an extra 10% off already reduced prices at https://ghostbed.com/unsubscribe with code UNSUBSCRIBE. QUO Try QUO for free plus get 20% off your first 6 months at https://www.quo.com/UNSUB DOSE Head to https://dosedaily.co/UNSUB or enter UNSUB to get 35% off your first subscription. ------------------------------ FOLLOW OUR SOCIALS! Unsubscribe Podcast https://www.instagram.com/unsubscribepodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@unsubscribepodcast https://x.com/unsubscribecast Eli Doubletap https://www.instagram.com/eli_doubletap/ https://x.com/Eli_Doubletap https://www.youtube.com/c/EliDoubletap Brandon Herrera https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonHerrera https://x.com/TheAKGuy https://www.instagram.com/realbrandonherrera Donut Operator https://www.youtube.com/@DonutOperator https://x.com/DonutOperator https://www.instagram.com/donutoperator The Fat Electrician https://www.youtube.com/@the_fat_electrician https://thefatelectrician.com/ https://www.instagram.com/the_fat_electrician https://www.tiktok.com/@the_fat_electrician ------------------------------ unsubscribe pod podcast episode ep unsub funny comedy military army comedian texas podcasts Chapters: 0:00 Welcome To Unsub! 1:07 Cody’s Dad Is A Social Terrorist 7:27 The Battle of Athens 21:00 Nils Is Here! 22:13 Nils’ Content 1:11:32 Giants & Demons In The Bible 1:25:24 Dogma & Religious Movies 1:38:02 Brandon Made History 1:47:08 Insane Prohibition Story 1:55:02 The Offenders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:57Speaker 01

  So you might be into the Bible stuff a little bit as I've heard.

• 1:00Speaker 02

  Like this whole time I thought it was Satan.

• 1:01Speaker 03

  Well, as a kid, that's what you're taught.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:03The Fat Electrician?

  Devil red horns. Don't touch my apple tree.

• 1:05Speaker 03

  There's one rule, literally one rule.

• 1:07Speaker 02

  They're not actually building a tower like that's like going up to the sky and it was called like a ziggurat.

• 1:10Speaker 03

  It sounds like it should be a slur.

• 1:12The Fat Electrician?

  You think Jesus was born during Toyota-thon on purpose?

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. After much studying.

• 1:18Speaker 05

  Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous and Brandon. His hair is fucking fabulous. Donut. A dark oak disposition and there's a fat electrician. Welcome to unsubscribe.

• 1:38Speaker 06

  Hey, what's up? Okay, really quick before all this kicks off. Thank you. First off, Scavlands is freaking crushing. We're at 81% very positive reviews. Y'all loving the game. I've beat it already, uh, but the sheer amount of updates the team is doing and rolling out and implementing new things for the games. We're almost playable. Also send your ideas so I can add more quests. Thank you all so much for the amazing response for Scavlands. I just super, super thankful for being able to now be a video game development company.

• 2:13Speaker 06

  Never would have thought that was a possible thing to say, but here we are. Um, and y'all made it possible. So thank you. If you haven't checked it out, go check out Scavlands. It's on Steam. Scavlands. If I can get a quick shout out to the team. By day two, we had a full patch rollout and then by day four, and I think by day six, if you read the reviews, a lot of them are, are you guys not sleeping? The dev team is working so freaking hard, which is why we partnered with them. Also show the reviews. If you have been playing it, uh, go leave a review. We can't say leave a positive or a negative one, but I can say go leave a review and then you take what you want with that.

• 2:56Speaker 06

  Love you all. Thank you so much. Three, two, one.

• 3:06The Fat Electrician?

  Is the surge more alcohol or is there caffeine in it?

• 3:08Speaker 03

  There's more alcohol, I think. It's an eight percent. Oh dear lord.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Surge of booze.

• 3:14Speaker 06

  Cody, you ready?

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Hi everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tab, Nick the fat electrician, Nils our new friend, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much for being here. See, they were learning about the Bible.

• 3:31Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  Yes, we are. Yes, we are.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  All eyes on you. He just gave half the class a vacation Bible school flashbacks like, haha.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  They were learning about the Bible.

• 3:44The Fat Electrician?

  Dude, we're super stoked for this. We talked about, uh, he's actually a huge fan of Wendigoon. So

• 3:49Speaker 03

  That tracks. Really? That makes sense.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  I do and I am a Wendigoon enjoyer. Yeah.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  My dad sat on his legs.

• 3:56The Fat Electrician?

  You should tell that story, Cody. Brandon, you want to be in frame? It's a good story.

• 4:00Speaker 03

  It's a true story. I don't care. We were there.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Oh, well, we, we, he came down for one of our range days that we were having.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  It was our first range day.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  Was it our first official range day? So we host a range day every year where we bring down our favorite creator friends and they have a good time just shooting Brandon's machine guns. Cause he has one of the rarest collections ever. It's, it's a freaking amazing time. Wendigoon came down. He stayed in my house. And, uh, one night he decided he was gonna sleep on my couch and I was like, yeah, dude, like, you know, we'll get you a hotel room. He's like, no, no, I'll sleep on the couch. I'll sleep on the couch. So it was the first time my father came down, Rick. And we're, uh, we all had a good night before. So we might've had a couple of drinks in this night before. So we wanted to sleep in a little bit. And I wake up in the morning hearing, um, oh gosh.

• 4:54Speaker 03

  It was like Saving Private Ryan or some shit or Band of Brothers.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  It was Band of Brothers. My father was playing Band of Brothers at the highest volume it would go on my TV. And so we all wake up like, oh my God, what's happening? What's happening? And I run out and I'm like, dad, what's, what's? Bitch, I'm not telling you about Saving Private Ryan. Anyways, I run out there and I'm like, what's going on? And my father is sitting on Wendigoon's legs. And I'm like, dad, like turn it all down. Everyone's sleeping in the house.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  He said, that's not my fucking problem.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Wait, so while he was sleeping, you were sitting on his legs or you were sitting on his legs?

• 5:35Speaker 01

  My dad, my, yeah, my father was sleeping on Wendigoon's legs.

• 5:39Speaker 03

  Or no, or he was sitting on Wendigoon's legs. Well, Wendigoon was

• 5:42Speaker 01

  He was sitting. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. He was sitting on Wendigoon's legs. It's like, that's not my fucking problem. The volume's so loud. And I'm like, you turned it up.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Wendigoon pops up, uh, like Isaiah just pops up like a and PTSD riddled veteran.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  Just laughing his ass off. Sweetest kid ever.

• 5:58Speaker 06

  But then

• 5:59Speaker 01

  Dude, I, my favorite part is still, it's a muddy rainy day. Your dad doesn't have shoes or boots for some reason. He finds a brand new unworn pair of women's boots. And he wears them out to the range. Yeah. Ended up being my ex's boots. He just found them in a closet and he said, these fit me.

• 6:17The Fat Electrician?

  They're brand new, like never been opened.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  But we, we go to, we go to brunch that day and we're like, dad, you were sitting on Wendigoon. And he's, what did he say?

• 6:28Speaker 02

  Did he not know?

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Oh, he did. Okay.

• 6:31Speaker 03

  He did not give a shit. So Isaiah was just a good sport about the whole thing. He thought it was the funniest shit in the world. He's like, dude, you need to invite your, invite your dad back to all this. Like every time you do one of these, invite him back. Man's a social terrorist.

• 6:44The Fat Electrician?

  I got to be in the truck when Cody got pulled over with me, John and Mr. Garrett.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  Oh lord.

• 6:51The Fat Electrician?

  That was an experience.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  That was a good time.

• 6:56Speaker 03

  What happened?

• 6:57The Fat Electrician?

  Can we tell that story?

• 6:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:59The Fat Electrician?

  We, we, he got pulled over. I think it was just speeding or something like

• 7:03Speaker 01

  I was speeding down.

• 7:04The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. Just pulled over. So Cody like pulls off the main highway onto like a frontage road. And then we pulled into like a parking lot of like a self-storage place. Like just getting the cop off the road. And we're all sitting there quietly. Cody's getting his like license and registration. I hand it to him out of the glove box and it's like, this'll be interesting. Pretty good chance we get out of this. You know, what are the odds they'll recognize Cody? We'll see. So we're all kind of like thinking the same thing quietly. And Mr. Garrett's in the backseat behind me, turned around looking at the cop and a Middle Eastern law enforcement officer gets out and he goes, ah, hell son, he ain't gonna know who you are. And he didn't. Cody got a ticket and then the department reached out to him later.

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Anyways, Wendigoon says my dad's a social terrorist.

• 7:51The Fat Electrician?

  Good moral.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  And he is.

• 7:52Speaker 02

  Okay, understood. So this is, this is like normal. Yeah.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  That same range day, uh, all of the, all of the ammo and weapons were provided by, at the time it was just me. We didn't really have any sponsors or anything like that. So I was just, you know, this is all our ammo, our, you know, uh, our guns.

• 8:09Speaker 02

  Very generous of you.

• 8:09Speaker 03

  And well, he decided, he was like, son, look, and like toward the end, he's like, all the ammo here is just free. So he's shoving it in his pockets for calibers he doesn't even own. But he stole like two boxes of 4570s. Like you think this will fit my AR-15?

• 8:29Speaker 02

  Just, you know, it's funny because like I'm walking into like a gun crazed group and I just shot a gun for like the first time like this year in January.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  Really?

• 8:37Speaker 02

  So I'm, I'm learning. I'm learning. It was good. I, uh, fully autoed an AR-15.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 8:43Speaker 02

  So that was fun. It was like chained down. So it wasn't really that exciting, but, but I did.

• 8:47The Fat Electrician?

  Were you in Europe?

• 8:48Speaker 02

  No, no. I was, I was at a gun range.

• 8:50Speaker 03

  I've never seen an American range do that.

• 8:52The Fat Electrician?

  I've never seen that. I've only seen it in Europe.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, they like chained it down. So you could like go full auto and that you wouldn't like shoot someone.

• 9:00The Fat Electrician?

  Really?

• 9:02Speaker 03

  Even in full auto rental ranges, I've never seen them chain it down. Usually they have like, obviously a range safety officer, like pretty much on top of you, making sure that, you know.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  A lot of stuff has been happening in Minnesota. So I wonder, I wonder if that's just an extension of that. I don't know.

• 9:15Speaker 03

  Minnesota's been an interesting place lately.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  Yes, it has been.

• 9:19The Fat Electrician?

  Glad to have moved.

• 9:20Speaker 03

  Did something happen?

• 9:21Speaker 02

  No. No, no, we're a roll drive. There's, there's no chaos. There's no.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  There's, there's assimilation.

• 9:31The Fat Electrician?

  They had a new flag.

• 9:32Speaker 03

  Assamilation, I think.

• 9:33The Fat Electrician?

  They had a new state flag.

• 9:35Speaker 02

  Yes, there's been assimilation of sorts, if you want to call it that.

• 9:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, Americans are assimilating to their culture.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  Yes. Yeah, pretty much. Uh, there's no fire burned buildings. There's no buildings that are boarded up. Just peaceful. It's great.

• 9:50Speaker 03

  No fraud either.

• 9:51Speaker 02

  No fraud. There's no fraud.

• 9:52The Fat Electrician?

  The only police department surrendered ever in American history.

• 9:56Speaker 06

  Wait, what?

• 9:58Speaker 03

  Well.

• 9:59The Fat Electrician?

  Well.

• 10:00Speaker 03

  There was another.

• 10:00The Fat Electrician?

  There was, there was another, yeah.

• 10:03Speaker 03

  The, was it the Battle of Athens?

• 10:06The Fat Electrician?

  Uh, I don't know if that counts as a police department. That was, that was a, that was a jail, I guess. So yeah, maybe.

• 10:11Speaker 03

  It's a sheriff department, I think.

• 10:13The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  Do you know that story?

• 10:15Speaker 06

  This is a history. And now I'm like, yeah, you're drawing.

• 10:17The Fat Electrician?

  Battle of Athens.

• 10:18Speaker 06

  Go on.

• 10:20The Fat Electrician?

  Uh, boy, are we doing this?

• 10:21Speaker 06

  You have a history.

• 10:22The Fat Electrician?

  You gotta help me fill it in.

• 10:23Speaker 03

  I'll do it. Yeah, well, I'll help you fill it in.

• 10:25The Fat Electrician?

  So basically, uh, during World War II, um, politically, what was going on at the time was, um, they called it machine politics. Um, the Democratic Party was very, very, very, very powerful. And the, was it the governor? Or no, it was the mayor, mayor of Atlanta, not Atlanta.

• 10:42Speaker 03

  It was, uh.

• 10:44The Fat Electrician?

  Memphis. The mayor of Memphis basically ran in Tennessee, everywhere. He determined all the city councils, all the mayors, all the everything. So like, whatever they wanted went. And while the, all the boys were away fighting World War II, they would basically install sheriffs. And the sheriffs at this point in time were basically extorting the local population for money. Like they were pulling people over and it was like, pay up and they were keeping the money and like, they were just abusing the shit out of this local town in the mountains, Tennessee.

• 11:13Speaker 03

  Most notably, there were no free elections, essentially. So they were, they were in charge of all the ballot counting, everything like that. So if you tried to do anything about it, good luck, because the system was kind of controlled.

• 11:24The Fat Electrician?

  Hmm. Yeah. Like completely rigging elections. Well, all the World War II vets get back in, get back home. And a couple of different things happened, like basically what would happen was when the vets first started showing back up, these corrupt sheriff's deputies knew that these guys had money from coming back home from the war. So they would like basically sit outside bars and wait for them to come out and then charge them with public intox and give them huge fines and keep all the money. And this devolved into two of these deputies confronting, uh, I believe he was in the Navy and they wound up shooting and killing him. And this pissed off all the rest of the vets that came back into town. So they started their own political party to run for mayor or city council.

• 12:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think they were challenging the mayor of that town. Um, where basically they were just like, no, the way that you're doing this is just fucked up. We're not going to take this. Uh, you guys have been, you know, basically boss hog has been in control while we've been away in Europe fighting. Um, we're not going to let this go. So one of the veterans steps up and says, well, I'm going to run for mayor and had all of his, uh, all of the, the soldiers were supporting him and a lot of the locals and everything like that. And it became very contentious because the people that controlled the county at the time were obviously not a fan of this plan. And, uh, something actually transpired, I think, when it finally went to, uh, you know, election time, when it came to a vote. Uh, they were trying to, uh, basically stuff the ballot boxes. They were trying to shut down the polling locations.

• 12:48The Fat Electrician?

  Early, when they weren't supposed to, because so many people showed up. So the, the veterans, it was literally a veterans ticket was running and they were basically running on the platform of like, hey, it's going to be a fair election. We're going to have veterans there poll watching at every location with the deputies and we're going to make sure it's fair. If we lose, we lose, that's fine, but we're going to make sure it's a fair election. So like the whole fucking town shows up to vote for the veterans and the sheriffs are like shutting down polls early. They were, uh, there was a, a elderly black gentleman that they wouldn't let vote and then beat the shit out of him because he wanted to vote. Uh, they did shoot him. They clubbed him and then they shot him and two veterans stepped in to defend him. They beat the shit out of the veterans and had them tied up in that polling location.

• 13:30The Fat Electrician?

  And after that happened, everything kind of devolved. All the veterans went back to this, uh, a local entrepreneur ran a tire shop that they were using as like their campaign headquarters. And they all went back to the campaign headquarters and they're like, they're, they're rigging the election and we can't do anything about it.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  And these are hardened veterans too.

• 13:46The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah, these guys all fought in World War II.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  They just got home.

• 13:50The Fat Electrician?

  They just got back.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  Not the people you piss off.

• 13:52The Fat Electrician?

  So they, one of them stands up and I can't remember the exact words of the speech, but he gives a speech and it ends with, go home, get your guns and meet back here. They go home, get their guns, hunting rifles. Then they go to the National Guard Armory and they show up and there's like a, there's like a fucking supply sergeant there on AGR duty. And they roll up and they're like, you can let us in or we're going to get in, which is it? And he basically hands them the keys and looks the other direction. So they go grab fucking Tommy guns, M1 grands, pistols, grenades, unload the armory.

• 14:24Speaker 03

  Dynamite?

• 14:25The Fat Electrician?

  Dynamite. They didn't get that till later.

• 14:28Speaker 03

  Oh, sorry, I'm getting ahead.

• 14:29The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. So by then the sheriffs have shut down the polling locations early and taken all the ballot boxes into the local jail. So the veterans show up and fucking surround this place with guns and are like, turn over the ballot boxes. And they're like, no. And it devolves in, they cut the power to the building. It devolves into a firefight. A bunch of the deputies get shot, a couple of the veterans get shot. There's pictures, there's veterans up on, this is like on Main Street. Where the courthouse is, there's veterans in fucking windows above shops on Main Street, on the rooftops. They got cars flipped over in this firefight.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  Editor, put those up because they're fucking gnarly.

• 15:08The Fat Electrician?

  They go hard. And, uh, eventually, eventually they're like, all right, well, we, we're going to have to go in there and get them. And one of the veterans works for the DOT and he's like, we got.

• 15:18Speaker 03

  They're just like besieging the courthouse, essentially.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, those, yeah.

• 15:23The Fat Electrician?

  So they go and get some dynamite out of the DOT shed and blow the front door off the jailhouse. And finally, all the deputies surrender and they take all the deputies out, throw them in a fucking jail cell. There's a picture of like 20 of these corrupt deputies inside of a jail cell while they go in there and they count the ballots in front of the whole town. Cause like the whole town's out there watching.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Well, in the meantime, uh, the, I, I believe that the deputies that were being besieged and, you know, all the, the local leadership called the, the National Guard. Cause they said, we, we need support. We were being assaulted. There are terrorists here that are, you know, trying to, you know, trying to kill us. We need help. And, uh, so finally, by the time that they showed up, but the National Guard showed up, they were informed of the situation. And everybody just kind of went.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 16:14The Fat Electrician?

  So.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  Nothing happened. Like National Guard, they were expecting National Guard to come up, come in and like arrest them.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  They handed them magazines.

• 16:20The Fat Electrician?

  What was this?

• 16:20Speaker 02

  I don't, when was this?

• 16:21The Fat Electrician?

  The National Guard never actually showed up.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  Did they not?

• 16:23The Fat Electrician?

  So what had happened was he put out the call and everybody just kind of went, you're on your fucking own. But the veterans had heard that the call had went out. So they were expecting the National Guard to show up. So one of the veterans had a fucking crop duster. So he was doing hot laps around the entire town on a fucking recon mission. And he was going to report back and they were going to go stop the National Guard initially. But the National Guard never showed up, if I'm recalling this correctly.

• 16:50Speaker 03

  So I looked, Tennessee Governor Jim, uh, McCord initially considered activating the National Guard to handle the escalating crisis. But then rescinded the order before troops directly intervened in the firefight. So the order was given, but he's like, nah, let's see how it plays out.

• 17:04The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. So then the next morning, they still were under the impression that other law enforcement agencies or something were going to come do something about it. So a bunch of veterans loaded up in trucks and drove out to the other counties, like sheriff department. And rolled up with guns and are like, we heard you were going to do something about it. And that sheriff's department was like, nah. And they're like, cool. And then they left. And then like, over the coming days, it just turned into like, nothing was going to happen. There was a federal investigation. And the federal investigator tried to prove that they had taken guns from the armory. But the local armory guy's like, nah, they're all here and accounted for.

• 17:42Speaker 03

  There's actually a couple extras.

• 17:45The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. So yeah, like they like completely got away with it. Nobody got in trouble. They fixed it. Yeah.

• 17:50Speaker 03

  1940s.

• 17:52The Fat Electrician?

  It's like 1946 or 47. It was like right after World War II, like right after.

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• 19:29Speaker 02

  My, my, my confusion is, okay, so how much were these World War II veterans paid? Because like if they're like being extorted, just like were they, like truly they weren't loaded? How much were they, were, were we paying them?

• 19:38Speaker 03

  Well, they were getting a hundred to $200, was it $50 a month in?

• 19:43The Fat Electrician?

  Well, yeah, you gotta realize like they, they, World War II wasn't like a normal deployment, like we have today where it's like, okay, you're going to go over for six or nine months and then you're going to come back home. It's like, there's a lot of dudes that left in 1941 and didn't come home until 1946. And a lot of those dudes saved five, six years worth of wages the entire time. And then you also got separation pay when you got sent out. So I mean, you know, these guys had hundreds of dollars, if not thousands of dollars, which at the time is a lot of money. You know what I mean? And it, I mean, they're not like extorting them for tens of thousands of dollars, but when you have a thousand young men with cash in their pocket, that are all going to bars and you can just bust them all for public intox as they walk out. They're just basically taking all their money.

• 20:28Speaker 06

  Oh, wow, that turned gangster. I've never heard that story.

• 20:33The Fat Electrician?

  Well, then it inspired like, there was like several other almost flare ups that were very similar. And it's like, in, in my video, I kind of allude to the fact that this was like, not the, not exclusively the only reason, but this was like a catalyst to accelerating the end of that era of machine politics.

• 20:48Speaker 03

  Wait, did you do a video on this?

• 20:50The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah.

• 20:50Speaker 03

  Oh, fuck.

• 20:50The Fat Electrician?

  It's one of my best performing videos.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  I literally, I didn't know that. I just texted one of my guys like, we should cover the Battle of Athens. Son of a bitch.

• 20:59The Fat Electrician?

  Beat you.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  You.

• 21:02The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah, that video performed real well when you put the, the YouTube title, World War Two Veterans versus corrupt cops.

• 21:09Speaker 06

  Very good title. Very good title. Holy shit. Yeah. I, that is the last group of people I would fuck with or try to extort, because again, it's just,

• 21:21Speaker 06

  it's just when it's gonna pop off.

• 21:22The Fat Electrician?

  It's like that story and then the Battle of Alcatraz are like some of the funniest fucking stories ever. Where it's just dudes that just got back from World War Two, getting called in to do some shit. Hilarious.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  And they're, yeah, they didn't have a leash on them during, a leash in World War Two, but for the most part, they're just out wandering the countryside fighting.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  What does that mean? Like having a leash on them?

• 21:44Speaker 06

  Rules of war and there's not a, but there wasn't media or that much media at the time. And you're talking about all of Europe. And when you have groups of guys, like some of the individuals in the X cover, they're landing in the middle of nowhere. Their loss are hooking up with different elements. They're not even attached to each other than.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  And then, and then stuff happens.

• 22:05Speaker 06

  Yeah. Hey, we gotta take this bridge or hold this bridge. Okay. Well, now we're attached to each other. Okay. Make this happen. Kind of save it private Ryan. Where's the goal here? Do that. So you don't have those, uh, those rules of war or your

• 22:17Speaker 02

  I see.

• 22:18Speaker 06

  Guidelines. So when you get back, now you have hardened veterans that have just been in a terrible war. And they're like, okay, I wanna fuck shit up.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. Absolutely.

• 22:27Speaker 06

  And they had that brotherhood. They like,

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 22:29Speaker 06

  Those cops stayed home, I'm assuming. So none of them were veterans?

• 22:33The Fat Electrician?

  Correct.

• 22:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, they don't get like, you're gonna have that brotherhood of thousands of people.

• 22:37The Fat Electrician?

  Well, a lot of the cops were like, they, I, I go more in detail in the video, but like, a lot of the deputies were like actual criminals and shit. Like people that had been like felony level convictions and stuff that they were just hiring to basically be thugs and extort people. It's nuts.

• 22:56Speaker 06

  Let's stop real quick.

• 22:58Speaker 03

  Cool story though, because you know, people talk about like, oh, the second amendment, what's it for? Oh, you wanna stand up to tyranny? When would that ever?

• 23:05The Fat Electrician?

  It is, it is. It has happened before.

• 23:07Speaker 03

  There is precedence for this.

• 23:09Speaker 06

  National Guard guy, they pulled up. I guarantee you it was like, keys. Well, bring them back by 12 the next day, we're

• 23:17The Fat Electrician?

  I've told this story before. So like when, uh, when I was in the National Guard, Barack Obama was still president and he was coming towards, uh, 2016, like when he was leaving office. And at the time, there was a lot of people that were like, he's gonna institute martial law so we can stay in power. And that led into the whole Jade Helm thing where a fucking mock annual training mission for the National Guard got leaked.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  Like every, every five years, people forget that's a training mission that happens all the

• 23:41The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. And they think it's an actual government plan to like take over Houston and Dallas.

• 23:45Speaker 06

  They're taking pictures of train yards with military vehicles on it and convoys and like,

• 23:50Speaker 03

  It's that and then, uh, Robin Sage.

• 23:52The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah.

• 23:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. Everybody forgets that that's just a routine military exercise.

• 23:56The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. So like it was, that was going on. And I had like actual people I know ask me of like, are you guys really gonna institute martial law? Like what, what would you do if they told you to do that? I was like, I'm not, you think I'm gonna hop in a shitty Humvee and drive around town with a megaphone and tell you to go to bed? No.

• 24:14The Fat Electrician?

  I'm not about, first of all, they're not gonna give me ammunition. Absolutely not. Like, I know. No.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I mean, we would never see anyone enforce it. Like, you know, for example, COVID restrictions.

• 24:28The Fat Electrician?

  I, I'm from Iowa. They didn't enforce shit.

• 24:31Speaker 06

  I just, I just imagine our homies driving around in the Humvee like, this is gay. Don't shoot me. I have to be here. Don't shoot me.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  Knock, knock, knock. Sir, it appears you have no guns. Is that correct? Okay, that's what I thought. Please tell your neighbors about this interaction before I go over.

• 24:54Speaker 06

  Do really quick, uh, we'll, we're gonna talk. Brandon, congrats on, I mean, you have now a

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Well, shit, before we get into that, do we wanna talk to our guest?

• 25:03Speaker 06

  I know what that's all.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  Is this guy here?

• 25:08Speaker 03

  No shit happens here.

• 25:09Speaker 06

  We just invited Nils to not talk.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Watch us. I, I wanna know more about your stuff because I'm a terrible podcast host and I really didn't, I, I, I looked into your channel a little bit, but I really, really didn't do a deep dive into, to a lot of your stuff.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. So what would you like to know?

• 25:25Speaker 03

  Well, for one, how'd you get started?

• 25:30Speaker 02

  See, my grandpa fought in World War Two and there's a crazy story there. And actually,

• 25:34The Fat Electrician?

  Ready, go.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  No, he, he actually was, um, he actually was a paratrooper though. I think he was at the Battle of Bulge.

• 25:40The Fat Electrician?

  No shit.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Man, he had a Purple Heart. He got shrapnel, I think in his knee. He did like, he, uh, got some like award or something. I can't, I'm a terrible grandson. Um, but he, uh, like he had some awards. He never really showed it to anyone. He was, he had a medal for being like, like a top 10 marksman or he was just like, uh, uh, I don't remember. There's some type of

• 25:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. He was, so, so maybe not top 10, but the, but the point is he, uh, no, he was, uh, he was really good. And then there was, I, I, I forget the story. I think my grandma knows it, but, um, and I should probably talk to her. Um, she, uh, he did like something where he like fixed a radio at like the last second. And then he like saved some people or something like that. So I should probably know the full story. I'm kinda, kinda embarrassed that I don't.

• 26:21Speaker 06

  Grandpa's a G.

• 26:22The Fat Electrician?

  All right. Biblical marksmanship. Go.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Yes, biblical marksman.

• 26:25The Fat Electrician?

  David versus Goliath.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  We've had, we've had an expert on that on the podcast.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Sniper.

• 26:31The Fat Electrician?

  When confronted with a larger man, shoot his ass.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  Shoot him in the head.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  Ah, yes. Sun Tzu.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  Sun Tzu, shoot him in the head. Yeah. Um, no, so I, you know, I make YouTube videos, um, about the Bible. I am really fascinated with the weird parts. So angels, demons, fallen angel type stuff, supernatural world. Um, there's a lot of that in Genesis. So that's usually where I spend, um, a decent amount of my time, but outside of that, what I really enjoy is learning the ancient Near Eastern context, because the Bible was written in a particular time period and a particular people wrote it and a particular group of people were hearing it. So in 2026, it's really easy to read this thing, this English, English translation that we have of the Bible and

• 27:18Speaker 02

  kind of like input our modern sort of ideas onto it and like, oh, what are problems that we care about in 2026 USA? Oh, I'm gonna read that back into the Bible. When, when in reality, my, the thing I find so fascinating about the Bible is scholars have done so much research over the years to be able to make stuff like this, um, decipherable and able for like your average Christian to be able to understand the, the, the context of, of the Bible. And that's, that's truly where, um, I find the most joy. And quite honestly, that's where you get to a lot of the weird stuff because their world was just so much different than ours.

• 27:49Speaker 03

  All right. So Nephilim, go.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  Nephilim. Well, we will get there.

• 27:53Speaker 06

  So my question.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  I knew you were thinking, you were thinking it so loud, it came into my brain.

• 27:57The Fat Electrician?

  Talking about that, I, I saw this post like the other day, and I think it's a perfect example, was somebody had taken the lyrics to, uh, what's, what's the Smash Mouth song from Shrek?

• 28:08Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  Uh, All Star.

• 28:10The Fat Electrician?

  All Star. They took the lyrics to All Star by Smash Mouth and translated it into Arabic and then translated it back to English. Completely different song.

• 28:21Speaker 06

  Interesting.

• 28:22The Fat Electrician?

  But like, that's what happens with, happened with the Bible.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  Biblically accurate Shrek.

• 28:26The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. Like it's, it was, it's really funny to read, but it's just like, oh, it's crazy how much different it changed the lyrics of that song just by going to Arabic and then back to English. It was crazy.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  So what's interesting about the, going to the biblical, uh, translation and whatnot, people kinda have this conception that, oh, well, the Bible was written, well, first of all, the Old Testament was written in, it was like 99% Hebrew. It was like, it was like 1%, Aramaic. The New Testament predominantly in, in, in Kornet Greek, but people kinda tend to have this idea that, oh, well, the Bible was translated into Latin. And then it was from Latin into English, um, and you know, from, uh, or sorry, not Latin into like German and then French. And then eventually we get the, the, the King James Bible, and then we get the, the English translations. But in reality, what happened is we have manuscripts dating back to, um, the original Hebrew and the original Greek. So our English translations today are based off of manuscripts that go back directly to the original language.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  So people kinda tend to think that it went from English to another language and then, um, or sorry, from like Hebrew and then to a different language and then, and then to English. In reality, all the translations come from, we have the Hebrew and then we translated directly to whatever that would be the equivalent.

• 29:33Speaker 03

  So it's not like the Chinese telephone people are thinking it is?

• 29:35Speaker 02

  No, no, no, absolutely not.

• 29:37Speaker 06

  And you're even, I think

• 29:41Speaker 06

  the word for God or even, uh, what was the word you were talking about earlier?

• 29:44Speaker 02

  Elohim.

• 29:45Speaker 06

  Elohim, like that has different meanings just depending on.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 29:49Speaker 06

  That's what's crazy to me. It can mean so many different things. And then mankind's just like, uh, well, this is my interpretation of that.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. So essentially, um, the Bible is, well, I'm full disclosure Protestant. I mean, I love my Catholic and, and Orthodox brothers, but we have a little bit different of a, different of a canon. And there's, there's like a whole history going into that, but, uh,

• 30:11Speaker 03

  So Theses were involved.

• 30:12Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. 95 of them to be exact. Martin Luther. Um, but anyways.

• 30:18The Fat Electrician?

  He wrote a couple of books.

• 30:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, one or two.

• 30:20The Fat Electrician?

  I gave one to Connor one time.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. In the Civil Rights.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  He had a dream.

• 30:25Speaker 02

  Martin, it was first, the first thing he, on the Catholic Church door, he's like, I have a dream that you guys need to stop selling indulgences. Um,

• 30:33Speaker 02

  Uh, but so the, the Bible that we have today, the Protestant canon, it's 66 bucks. Um, 39 in the Old Testament, 27 in the New Testament. Um, like I said, Old Testament written in Hebrew. And then that got done, um, at around like, let's just call it 500 B.C. And then there was like this four or 500 years of silence, they call it. And then that's when the New Testament, um, came, um, around like, I think 52 A.D. is like the earliest thing we have. Jesus died around 33. I think 52 A.D. was the first that we get of like Paul's letters. So anyways, you have, um, the story or like the grand story of the Bible, and then we can get into all the, um, nitty gritty things that are really, uh, fun to talk about is at really what it comes down to is God wanted a family.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  That's like the ultimate story of the, uh, story of the Bible in Genesis one, when God created everything. It says in the, uh, the book of Job, which is another book in the Old Testament, that the sons of God and the morning stars were there shouting for joy with him. When God created the heavens and the earth. So before God created the world, he already had the supernatural world with him. And we'll be talking a lot about the supernatural world and angels and demons and all that. And then over the, you know, of course God plants a garden in Eden. Um, he creates Adam and Eve. They function as his priests on earth, so to speak. And then, um, the, the serpent in Genesis three obviously comes up and screws the pooch a little bit, creates rebellion, sin enters the world. And then through that sin, um, estrangement from God happens between humanity and God.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  And then the whole rest of the Old Testament is the story, or I, I guess the Bible should say, the whole rest of the story is God, um, preparing the way for Jesus to be born. Um, you know, and, uh, I think it was like four B.C. it's not actually zero, zero A.D. Cause like some, I think some Catholic monks somewhere like screwed up the, the chronology or something. Um, and then the story of the Old Testament is of course, Jesus comes, he lives a perfect life or lives a perfect life, lives a life we could not live, died or dies the death that we should have died, pays the penalty, first sin on the cross. Three days later, he rises from the dead and then, um, that restores our relationship to him. And then the whole point of the Bible pretty much is just like filling in that story. And there's a lot of weird stuff in there.

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• 34:27Speaker 02

  We can go really any direction you want. We could go straight to the Elohim thing. I think that's probably the more, the more interesting, the more interesting part of it.

• 34:33Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm unfamiliar with that, uh, as, as a concept. Like I, I know, obviously I've heard the word, but I don't know the, like what you guys were, were speaking about. I'm, I'm kind of.

• 34:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. So a lot of people, a lot of Christians have been kinda like, I don't, not even necessarily taught, cause a lot of people don't, don't really even talk about this word. But Elohim, E.L.O.H.I.M. is a Hebrew word that gets translated God, G.O.D. Okay. Very simple. Now, that word is used over 2,000 times in the Old Testament to refer to the God of the Bible, Yahweh. God of the Bible is Yahweh. Um, that's what Elohim is normally referred to in the, and when it says in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. In the beginning, Elohim created the heavens and the earth. Well, the word Elohim, um, is also used for nearly half a dozen things in the Bible that aren't the God of the Bible.

• 35:24Speaker 02

  And that's where we get the word God. So then what's going on here? Well.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  He's in, yeah.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, uh, scholars like Michael Heiser had pointed out in his book, um, The Unseen Realm and whatnot. Like when we, um, use the term God in our modern, this is where we get to this whole modern context versus the ancient context. When the Hebrew writer was using the term Elohim, when we think of the word God in our modern context, we like, if, if I were to just think of God, immediately I'm thinking about something who's omniscient, who's omnipotent, who's, who's all powerful, who like creates things, who has creatorship and stuff like that. But the ancient reader didn't view the word that way because the other times that the word Elohim gets used in the Bible is referred to, um, the sons of God, the disembodied dead, it's used for angels, it's used for demons. It's the same, it's the same word God, but they just view the word God differently.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  So the Bible is monotheistic in the sense that Yahweh is the, the, the Old Testament calls them the most high. But the Bible also acknowledges the existence of other Elohim, which Michael Heiser has pointed out that Elohim, really what that word means is a spiritual being. So for example, in Psalm 82, it says, God has taken his place in the divine assembly. In the midst of the gods, he holds judgment. So you have God, Elohim stands in the council. That's Yahweh. In the midst of the gods, he holds judgment. Same word Elohim.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  So it's kind of like every parallelogram or every square is a parallelogram, but not every parallelogram.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Exactly. So Yahweh is an Elohim, but no other Elohim are Yahweh. And so you get to the weird stuff when you start to figure it in, who are these other Elohim or who are these gods of the Bible? Now, what's interesting is that the term Elohim is kind of like our word sheep. Like if you see a singular sheep, the grammar, the, the way that we structure our sentences, we say that is a sheep right there. But if you say, look at all those sheep, we know that it's plural. Elohim works the same way. The context determines how many gods are here.

• 37:20Speaker 03

  Well, that's helpful.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, well, well, it, it, it's, it's actually really interesting is because the grammar in the, in like, in that, in that phrase is, um, God takes his place in the divine council that the, the Hebrew, um, grammar there is singular. It says in the midst, you can't be in the midst of one. So God is in the midst of other gods or Elohim that he's passing judgment on. And then that gets you into the story of Genesis, because when God created everything, like I said, the sons of God were there, which is where this term Benay Elohim comes from. So there were other supernatural beings there when God created everything. And then out of that, um, you get to the first rebellion, which was God planted a garden in Eden.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  He had Adam and Eve there, and then the serpent comes up and he's just like, hey, we're going to make things or, um, God's, he's essentially like hiding things from you. He essentially can, um, convinces Adam and Eve to rebel against God. God told them to do one thing, just like, don't eat from the tree. And then the, the serpent came and went and did that. And then fast forward a couple, um, a couple of chapters later, they're in the Genesis six, we get to the, the, the Nephilim angle, but, uh, I'll, I'll come back there. Fast forward from there, you get to the Genesis 11 part, which is, you know, you saw my video on the Tower of Babel. So that passage that I just told you about in Psalm 82 is really important when it comes to this. Because later in that chapter, it says that God is judging these other Elohim, these other gods for ruling unjustly.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  Okay. And there's only one time in the Bible where God or where other nations were ruled by other gods. Or at least there's one story on how, and how that came to be. And that was the Tower of Babel story. Cause what happened is humanity came together. Um, and they were like, all right, well, we're going to build a, we're going to build a tower that reaches the heavens, which the Hebrew, it's not like, they're not actually building a tower. Like that's like going up to the sky. What they were actually building was, um, it was called like a ziggurat. So if you think of ancient Mesopotamia, it was like a temple complex.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  It sounds like it should be a slur.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  Ziggurat. Yeah, you ziggurat.

• 39:20Speaker 03

  See, it just, it sounds bad. I don't know who it would be toward, but.

• 39:23Speaker 06

  You read the user agreement is what this.

• 39:27Speaker 06

  You know. Way more about the Bible than even I'm like dang, okay, you have this.

• 39:31Speaker 02

  Well, right. And also let me know, because sometimes I can tend to like assume that certain people know, know things. So if at any point you just like need me to stop being, stop and explain something, yeah.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  I'd love for the audience to say like, what, well, when you do that, you're like, okay. So Tower of Babel, because you threw that out there. I was just about to ask you to kind of break that down a little bit. And you immediately went into it.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  Okay, perfect.

• 39:49Speaker 06

  It's, I think a lot of people even at the table, it's like, you think, okay, one god, theist, even for.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  Monothism.

• 39:56Speaker 06

  Yeah, like you're, and that's about it. You have people that yes, you go to church, you'll have like the priest. Or the pastor break down certain segments, but for the most part, you're, they're not digging this deep into it.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  At least. Cause a lot of it like, in, in like modern churches especially, and again, especially Protestant church, I'm Protestant too, but like. Yeah. Yeah. The, the smoke machine's an electric at Target a little old. They, um, like it's, it's distilled down to like the lowest common denominator a lot of times, which is understandable. Because you're trying to appeal to the masses, but that's always been, I guess, one of my issues with a lot of churches is like, I understand the, the purpose of that. But I like it when people dig a little bit deeper, because that's, that's the interesting part to me.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  And I mean, in a pastor's job at the end of the day, like you said, like you have people who are atheists in the congregation. You have people who have been Christians for, for 40 years. So it's just like, how are you talking about like things like, so that everyone can like. Leave and sort of, uh, understand something.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  Cause if you're talking over 80% of people's heads, like, are you really doing your job?

• 40:54Speaker 02

  Right. Um, but going back to.

• 40:56The Fat Electrician?

  I think I know what a ziggurat is, so I'm going to tell you what I think it is and correct me when I'm wrong.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:01The Fat Electrician?

  Not if, when, but like the notion, so people think the Tower of Babel is like, they're trying to build a tower to reach up into the clouds where they think the gods are. That's not what it is. A ziggurat, and a ziggurat is like, kind of like what the conspiracy theorists think like the Egyptian pyramids are.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:16The Fat Electrician?

  Like it's some special thing in a special location that somehow channels power that allows them to access the spiritual dimension. That's what a ziggurat is?

• 41:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, okay. So like the, the ancient.

• 41:27Speaker 03

  The Hadron Collider.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  The ancient like Babylonian equivalent of what the, of what the pyramids would be.

• 41:32The Fat Electrician?

  Okay.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  If you go and even like look at Machu Picchu and those places, like the, all, all of these temples sort of function at the same way. The idea was, the reason that you built a ziggurat is because it was part of a temple complex. And the idea of a temple is, well, you also have to think about every, every, um, everything in the world that these people were living in back then. Everything was tied to deity. Everything was related to the gods. If your crops grew, great, the, the, the gods favored you. If you're firstborn died, that's, you know, unlucky. And so why, why they would build ziggurats is to locate the deity. Whatever deity they were trying to worship or barter with, or whatever, the idea was you build a home for it. And then it takes up residence into the home.

• 42:13Speaker 02

  And then that's why all these like ancient, you know, the Babylonians, the Sumerians, they all had patron deity. So we think about the, the Greek pantheon, how like you go across Greece, like here we worship Aphrodite, here we worship, um. Zeus, here we worship, um, Apollo, you know, stuff like that. It was, it's really, humanity's been doing like the same stuff. Even, even in the, the ancient world.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  Cause that's something that I, I know, like, uh, Jordan Peterson's talked about a little bit and like a lot of his, uh, religious series and things like that is like the. If we're extrapolating it out like early on, it's like the personification of things, like the personification of the sun. And the personification of water and things like that.

• 42:48The Fat Electrician?

  So we're going around trying to build birdhouses.

• 42:51Speaker 03

  Bloody, bloody lobsters. Oh, these lobsters.

• 42:54The Fat Electrician?

  So we're trying to build birdhouses for gods essentially.

• 42:57Speaker 02

  More or less, yeah.

• 42:57The Fat Electrician?

  Okay.

• 42:58Speaker 02

  So, okay, so.

• 42:59The Fat Electrician?

  So that's basically what we're doing.

• 43:01Speaker 02

  Right. So, no, no, that's exactly, that's exactly.

• 43:04The Fat Electrician?

  I want to see the birds. I'm going to build it a house.

• 43:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, that, that's, that's, that's literally exactly what humanity was doing. And so what, what.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  When the birds don't have a house, that's chaos.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  That's what the Bible says, don't you know?

• 43:19Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, anyways.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, that didn't take long.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. Okay. So the, but the point is, uh, so they, they were building this tower. And the, the Bible says that they were trying to make a name for themselves. The Hebrew word for name there is Shem. Then that's going to come, come important later. And so what happens? They build this tower and they were essentially trying to get God to be on their own terms. Cause that's what you would do. And of course Yahweh is not gonna do that.

• 43:47The Fat Electrician?

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• 43:48Speaker 02

  He's like, he's not, he's not living in your birdhouse. He's much more powerful than that. He's not going to be succumb to this like tiny, tiny little thing.

• 43:54Speaker 03

  So he cast a confusion spell.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  More or less. And so, and so what happened was they all had a unified language. And then at Babel, God was so, uh, God was so fed up with this that he was just like, all right. Well, I'm going to confuse your languages.

• 44:06The Fat Electrician?

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• 44:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:11The Fat Electrician?

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• 44:12Speaker 03

  Hi, you can't understand each other.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, and so, but, so.

• 44:16Speaker 03

  When you and your boys are working on a cool science project and suddenly he starts speaking Mandarin.

• 44:24Speaker 03

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• 44:27Speaker 06

  I didn't say we ruined anything. This podcast, we couldn't understand each other one moment. Ah.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  So yeah, so God scrambled the languages and going back to this Elohim thing, this, this is, this is where I'm tying, tying in that idea. That's, that's why I talked about it is because in Deuteronomy 32, eight, nine, Deuteronomy is the, the fourth book of the Bible, the fifth. Shame on me.

• 44:46Speaker 06

  Lots of laws.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. It's, uh, that Moses is kind of like sermons and speeches and stuff, but pretty much, um, Deuteronomy 32, eight, uh, eight, nine says. When, uh, when the most high separated the nations, he separated, separated them according to the number of the sons of God. According to the number of the, the name Elohim. Do you remember in Solmanity two, when I said was God was judging gods for ruling unjustly? Where in the Bible did God separate the nations?

• 45:16Speaker 02

  At that.

• 45:17The Fat Electrician?

  Power of Babel. Yeah.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. So what happened after Babel was God, okay. So like the, you had the, you had the Nephilim example, we'll go back and talk about that. But then we have this another rebellion.

• 45:27Speaker 06

  You're edging me here.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:29Speaker 02

  And, and so God, God, like God's punishment to them is, okay, you wanna, you wanna have your own gods. I'm going to pull myself out for a little bit. And, um, at the end of Deuteronomy 32, eight, nine, it says, in, uh, Yahweh, the God of the Bible, took Israel as his portion. Jacob hit his allotted heritage. So at that point, Yahweh decided he was going to build up the people of Israel.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  And then all the other nations were given over to these other gods. So if you think about where all these pantheonic sort of religions kind of came from, it's right there. And so what happened was over time, they started, so many two says ruling unjustly, um, giving partiality to the wicked, all these things. And then at the very end of so many two, it says, um, God is going to judge them and then he's gonna, uh, inherit the earth. So from that point on, the whole story of the Bible is Yahweh and Israel versus the pagan nations and the gods. And so what happened then onward is this is going on in the ancient Sumeria. Some people think that the Tower of Babel could have been in Babylon, or some scholars think it could have been like an Aridu. There's like two cities that, that are pretty close by to one another.

• 46:36Speaker 02

  So anyways, remember when I told you that they tried to make a Shem for themselves? They tried to make a name for themselves. Well, in the next chapter, so that was Genesis 11, Genesis 12, God calls this man living in that area, whose parents were worshiping pagan gods. And he's just like, hey, uh, Abram, um, I have a promise for you. I'm going to make your Shem, your name great. And, and it's through that lineage that Jesus is, he's eventually, um, going to be coming. So Abraham calls this guy out of ancient Mesopotamia, go, goes to the land of Canaan. Uh, has some problems there. Um, there's a famine. They end up going to Egypt. They get a, they get super wealthy, go, go back up to Canaan. And then some stuff happens. And then Isaac has, um, a son, and this is really interesting.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  Cause right now, all, all the other nations are ruled over by hostile gods. Yahweh is putting, or he's going to make Abraham's name great. The only problem is, um, the covenant that, uh, Yahweh gave Abraham was he was going to have as descendants as the number of the saints of the sea and the stars of the sky. So in other words, a lot of descendants, we're all going to be descendants.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  We're, we're getting into the Canaanites and the, the way you're talking about the giants right here. We're getting there.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  We're getting there. I keep being told this. Well, like real quick, while, while we're on this, this, this tangent, I guess.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  How controversial of an, an opinion, I guess, is that in the, in the biblical realm? This idea of, I know that there's, uh, in the Bible, like multiple mentions of things like, you know, magic and like different, like. Technically like different, uh, elements performing miracles and things like that, but also like. This idea that there are confirmed multiple gods, I guess, in the Old Testament. How, how controversial is that?

• 48:09Speaker 02

  It's.

• 48:09Speaker 03

  Or hotly debated, I guess.

• 48:10Speaker 02

  It's not controversial for the ancient Israelites.

• 48:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Cause I mean, biblical scholars, even secular scholars will acknowledge that. Well, I mean, they'll argue that, um, the idea of Christianity sort of like elevated out of polytheism, but that, that comes, that comes from the, so like, that's like mainstream. You know, as, as far as I'm aware, but if you.

• 48:27Speaker 03

  Sure. I didn't know what the debate was like.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  Sure. Right. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, if, if, if you talk to Christians today, I mean, a lot of this stuff is like rather new within the last like a hundred years. Because in 1928, archaeologists discovered, uh, the city of Ugarit, which was in, you know, the ancient Canaanite city. And, and there you get the Ugaritic material of the Baal cycle, which talks about the divine council to where then biblical scholars looked at that and said, wait, the Bible has, has this divine council thing that's going on in Solmanity two. So what, but, but what the biblical authors did very often is they were obviously living in the ancient world. They, they were exposed to Egyptian mythologies. They were exposed to, to the Canaanite religion. And so they're looking at all this and saying, well, yeah, but like Yahweh's supreme over all of them. So what they would do is they would take these sort of ideas of the surrounding, um, sort of areas and write a polemic against them.

• 49:12Speaker 02

  Um, and say that, no, your gods aren't the one who created everything. It was Yahweh. And so they would kind of like take and use, use different, different imagery from the surrounding sort of areas.

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• 51:05Speaker 06

  Is that when you talk about like? Adam and Eve and then I know you discussed, oh, they went to a city or when they left the Garnita, there was already cities or civilizations is that?

• 51:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. So that that's that's more that's more controversial. So that so that's good. That gets into the idea of like co or pre pre atomism.

• 51:23Speaker 03

  Biblical literalism and all that.

• 51:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. Because if like, if you read Genesis one excluding from Genesis two, mind you, they didn't have chapters back then. Um, but if you read Genesis one, you have Genesis one, 26, let us make man in in our image, and then humanity was created in Genesis one, but you don't get Adam and Eve till Genesis two. So like, how do you sort of reconcile this? Now, the main line position is that, well, Genesis one obviously describes the seven days of creation. Um, which is way more cooler than what most people think it is. Um, they think that Genesis two, so it does talk about more creation stories, but now we're focusing in on exactly like what God was doing during those first seven days. So when God created, um, the the sun, um, and he created like the the light and then the fish.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  And then the waters in the land that Genesis two is kind of like zooming in on on all of that to where you get Adam and Eve created. But if you do take those as separate accounts, you have the possibility for humans being around. But then God planting the garden in Eden to which he then took Adam and Eve intentionally. Um, and created them to be his priests, because a lot of the a lot of the language that's used for the Garden of Eden is the same language that's used for like the temples that are going to be built or that God is going to instruct them to build later. Because Eden was God's headquarters on earth. Um, people kind of have this idea that the whole world was Eden when God created the world. It wasn't Eden was one specific place. And God tasked Adam with or Adam and Eve to number one, be fruitful and multiply. So have lots of sex and lots of kids.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  Based.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  Based.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  Rabid.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  And then, and then, and then to, um, subdue and rule over creation. So his task for them was essentially, hey, I created this world for you. This is Eden. Go make the rest of the world like Eden.

• 53:04The Fat Electrician?

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• 53:05Speaker 02

  And and do not eat from from the tree of knowledge of.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  One, one rule. There's one rule, literally one rule.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  And so, yeah, I mean, that that that.

• 53:14The Fat Electrician?

  And then the snake handed her an apple. It's upsetting me.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  Used her to get to him. Many such cases.

• 53:23The Fat Electrician?

  My rib has betrayed me.

• 53:26Speaker 02

  So then, like, after, uh, Abraham is called, then you get to like the Moses story where, um, they're essentially pretty much enslaved in Egypt. Actually, I'm going to finish. I'm going to finish. Why is it was talking about Abraham? So God gives Abraham this promise. He's just like, you're you're gonna have to send it. So I'm gonna make a nation from you. The only problem is his wife can't conceive. She's barren. But God supernaturally opens her womb and gives her the ability to to have a kid. He has Isaac.

• 53:51Speaker 06

  Cause how?

• 53:52Speaker 03

  And I know this is entirely different thing to like her age at the time.

• 53:56Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  Like there's, there's biblical canon. There's also like debate about, um, and I honestly don't know enough about this to be educated and have an educated opinion about like the differences in time scale. Where like, uh, I've heard that like they, what is considered years in the Bible is actually months in certain regards or whatever, which like brings the the people that are living 700 years and things like that to a little bit more of a realistic scale, but I I know nothing about it.

• 54:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's, there's, there's two sort of philosophies when it comes to that. The first one, you have the literalists who say, all right, Noah lived 600 or years and Methuselah lived 969 years. There are people who will try to do this and then they'll do like some calculations, kind of trying to calculate, uh, how old the earth is and whatnot. But then you have genuine Christians and genuine scholars who look at these super long lifespans. And notice that, wow, all of them end with like a two, a seven, a five, or a something else. Which is if you have a big enough sample size, that's a really like, why are you finding?

• 54:54Speaker 03

  Statistically anomalous.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  Yes. And so like that that leads to certain scholars believing that these were, um, like symbolic years. So like when the the when these patriarchs were living such long lifespans and and that that wasn't, uh, that wasn't.

• 55:07The Fat Electrician?

  Where's Connor?

• 55:08Speaker 02

  Different to like ancient Sumeria had the.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  He might have taken Bo home.

• 55:11The Fat Electrician?

  Connor has a good example about this with, um, ancient Chinese. So in like ancient Chinese writings, he I forget his exact example, but he said on the podcast before it was like this natural disaster killed 400 million people. But in the context of ancient Chinese.

• 55:27Speaker 02

  Killed a lot of people.

• 55:28The Fat Electrician?

  400 million was like saying a fuck ton to us. That was like their version of a shit ton.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. And that's, that's a really good example. And we'll get there later in the biblical story when Joshua goes up and kills all the giants in in the land of Canaan. There's, there's hyperbolic language also being used there as well. Cause apparently God tells them to commit genocide and leave no one left standing, but that was.

• 55:50The Fat Electrician?

  Joshua was a fed.

• 55:51Speaker 02

  It's really good.

• 55:52The Fat Electrician?

  Giants are NFA items.

• 55:55Speaker 03

  Leave no dog standing.

• 55:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. So anyways, God gives, uh, Abraham a son, Isaac. And then he tests Abraham and he's just like, hey, um, go up to this mountain and sacrifice your only son, who I said that is going to be giving you the the promise in your inheritance. Abraham walks up, which is really interesting how much that actually, um, is a type or like a biblical typology is like something in the Old Testament or a person or an event or something that foreshadows something in the future. So when Abraham went up to go sacrifice his own son, it was very, um, symbolic of Jesus doing like this exact same thing. So Abraham brings Isaac up there. And right before he's about to sacrifice him, God, God provides a a substitute for him and he he he provides a lamb. So.

• 56:42Speaker 03

  Which I saw a meme the other day that was just like, imagine two weeks after this, uh, Abraham asks, uh, Isaac to take a walk just because he wants to take a walk.

• 56:52The Fat Electrician?

  He's just like.

• 56:54Speaker 03

  He's, uh.

• 56:55The Fat Electrician?

  You sure about? Nah, dad, my legs are tired.

• 56:59Speaker 02

  I remember what happened last time. Are you gonna kill me this time? This time I'm going to, yeah.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  It's just kind of that like, that's, that's kind of an irreparable rift in a relationship between a father and son, I think.

• 57:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, so after that, you know, Isaac has Jacob, and then Jacob has these 12 sons and they end up becoming the 12 tribes of Israel that eventually, um, they're, um, there's a famine in the land. They go to Egypt. And then they're they're enslaved by by the Egyptians. And there's they're enslaved for a while.

• 57:29Speaker 06

  This is where like Isaac and Ishmael's.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 57:32Speaker 06

  This is part of that. So then Ishmael is will lead to Islam, but Isaac then.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. So Ishmael was promised that there would be like.

• 57:41The Fat Electrician?

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• 57:43Speaker 02

  For approximately 72.

• 57:45Speaker 03

  This boomer has his ring on.

• 57:48Speaker 02

  No, he was promised like.

• 57:50The Fat Electrician?

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• 57:52Speaker 06

  It was promised to me.

• 57:54Speaker 02

  It's promised.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  No. So, um, all the, all the Israelites are in exile. Uh, they're being treated by treated by the Pharaoh. And so though God raises up Moses and then, well, actually, actually before then, as soon as, um, Jacob has these, uh, 12 sons, Joseph ends up becoming one of the most famous men in Egypt. So he's like the, he does a lot of good stuff for the Egypt. Uh, for Egypt, um, the Pharaoh loves Joseph. He's doing a really good job. He leads them through famines. He leads them through this stuff. But then Joseph ends up dying and then a new Pharaoh comes and then over some time passes and then the new Pharaoh doesn't, it says, uh, that he did, he didn't remember Joseph. So Joseph was this Hebrew guy who did all of these amazing things for Egypt.

• 58:41Speaker 02

  And then a new Pharaoh comes along and says, oh, wow, we have a lot of people here now and they're populating very, very fast. We need to enslave them. Um, and so then they start treating them terribly.

• 58:51The Fat Electrician?

  Rocks aren't going to pile themselves.

• 58:53Speaker 02

  Or, yeah, these bricks, uh, and then just over time, he's just like, hey, the amount of bricks that I wanted you to make. Okay. Well, we're not, we're not, we're not going to gather your hay for you now. Now you need to go, go get, gather your own hay. So he just progressively just makes it worse.

• 59:07The Fat Electrician?

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• 59:16Speaker 03

  You you're on such a shit list, it became one of the wonders of the world.

• 59:22Speaker 06

  That is as military as it gets.

• 59:24The Fat Electrician?

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• 59:26Speaker 06

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• 59:28The Fat Electrician?

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• 59:29Speaker 03

  It's a literal biblical punishment.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:33Speaker 06

  Generations is wild.

• 59:35Speaker 03

  In in 7,000 years, people will still remember you fucked up.

• 59:43Speaker 06

  Explain that to your kids as you're having to do it, train them to do the same thing.

• 59:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, it was like, we have life pretty good.

• 59:50Speaker 06

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• 59:52Speaker 02

  In America. Okay, there we go. There you go. Yeah. In the US of A, baby. Seventeen seventy-six.

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  So eventually, Moses, some Hebrew lady has a baby, has Moses, she, and the pharaoh was just like, all right, we're gonna kill all the male firstborns of the Hebrews because they're, they're growing too much. And then he was afraid that they were gonna revolt and like eventually take over Egypt. And then so she puts Moses in a, in a basket, one of the pharaoh, I think it was Pharaoh's daughter, Pharaoh's sis, Pharaoh's daughter's sister, or something like that, finds him, brings him into the court. So Moses, this Hebrew baby, is being raised in the Egyptian court. And eventually, so he's being trained in all the Egyptian stuff. So like, he knows all their terminology, he knows all this. But eventually, he walks outside.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  And then he sees one of his, one of his Hebrew people, like, being beaten by this Egyptian. And so, out of rage, which is what happened to Moses a lot, he got very angry. I think he just took a rock, or I don't remember how he killed him. He just freaking, just destroys the Egyptian guy.

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  Antique gun.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  The slave driver. Yeah, yeah. Antique guns. And Pharaoh hears about this, and then Moses has to flee. And so then he goes and leaves, goes somewhere else for like forty years, and then that's when he goes to, that's where then God appears to him in, in the burning bush. He's just like, Moses, your people, like, are enslaved. And Moses is just like, yeah, my people are enslaved. He's just like, well, I'm gonna raise you up. And Moses is making all these excuses on why he shouldn't be doing this. Because he sucks and he can't speak well, and who's gonna listen to him? Cause like, they kinda knew him. He was this Egyptian guy. Well, Hebrew, you know, but he's raised in the Egyptian court.

• 1:01:30Speaker 06

  So what was the purpose of raising him in Egyptian court? I mean, it's smart. I just didn't, I didn't even know that. Like, he was raised, hey, bring in this individual, raise him, like.

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Well, the, the pharaoh, I'm just gonna say Pharaoh's daughter, Pharaoh's daughter's sister, she, I, I think it was because she just took pity on the baby. Because all of, like, all of them, like, all their firstborns were gonna die. So Mo- Moses was gonna die. And so she kinda like, if, if I remember this correctly, she kinda like took pity on him, brought him into the court, and then just through there, Moses was just raised there.

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  But eventually, Moses gets this epiphany, you know, he, he, you know, his brother Aaron comes along, and then, you know, him too partner, they, they go back to Egypt, and eventually, they're like, all right, it's time to leave. So then they all leave. This is when God has the ten plagues on Egypt, if, if you're, if you're familiar with those. And it was interesting is every single.

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  I watched Veggie Tales, yes.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  But it was interesting, and not a lot of people know this, but like, every single one of those plagues that God gave them of like, turning the Nile into blood, of, you know, frog infestations of.

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  Larry boy.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  Exactly. And then at the very end.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  This is hitting different for the VBS kids. Sorry.

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  All of them, so this is, goes back to this thing, is like, everything was tied to deity. Every single one of those attacks were attacks specifically on one of the Egyptian deities. So like, they had the goddess of the Nile and fertility. God, God turned that to blood. They had the goddess of like, I think her name was Hecate, she had like a frog head or something. God sent frogs.

• 1:03:00Speaker 03

  So it's literally mocking their deities.

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  Mocking, mocking their deities. Yep, absolutely.

• 1:03:04Speaker 03

  I never knew that.

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  And at the very end, mocking Pharaoh himself, because they believe that, you know, the, their rulers were sort of made in, in the image of God, which is the complete opposite of what the Bible says. The Bible says that all of us as humanity are created in God's image to image God, to be his representation here on earth. All the other religions of the time just thought that that was just for, that was just for kings, that was just for the gods, that was just for whatever. The differences between those is, is really fascinating, too. Eventually, the Egyptian army starts chasing, chasing them out of Egypt. So then they get to the Red Sea, and then the Hebrews are just like, shoot, we need to run.

• 1:03:41Speaker 02

  But there's a giant body of water here. And then, of course, God parts the Red Sea, and then the Israelites go through, and then they, the Egyptians follow them. God collapses the sea on them. They all die. And then right here, then and now, Israel is now wandering in the wilderness for forty years before they can go up to Canaan. And this whole time, God is providing for them. He's giving them food, he's giving them water, he's giving them all these different types of things, and they're just complaining the whole time, which is pretty much the whole track record of the entire, entire Old Testament. God's literally appearing to them in a pillar of fire, guiding them by night, and like a dust cloud by day, or, or something like that. And so God is just providing them away. And then they eventually get to the border of the promised land. Now we get to the giants.

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• 1:06:04Speaker 06

  Well, really quick, with you have like the Red Sea parting, is that you get different versions of that? It's like, oh, the time of year is spread apart, and it just took a long time, or it's the literal translation, translation of it parted and then crashed onto the soldiers?

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Speaker 06

  How's your take on?

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  So the, the term Red Sea, actually in the Hebrew means sea of reeds or Reed Sea. So a lot of people tend to think that, that like, this could have been just like some massive body of water, but if it was like a sea of reeds, it usually, usually would have been smaller. I know some Christians who think that they just experienced something supernatural, but I mean, obviously, the Bible says that God was responsible for, whatever part of the sea, God was responsible for it. So if that was the Israelites assuming that it was like a natural thing, and then attributing it to God, like, or God, like, sending down air, and then, and then it did it.

• 1:06:51Speaker 03

  Whether it was serendipitous, and therefore God, or it was something obviously supernatural, therefore God. Either way, it was, God was responsible.

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:59Speaker 06

  I love how you break it down. It is both sides. It's like, hey, this or this.

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so, we need to go back for a second to Genesis six. So.

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  He asked you again, bro.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no. Cause this provides, this provide, no, we're talking about giants.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  He's, he's Wendigoonin over here.

• 1:07:20Speaker 02

  But this provides all the context for the conquest of Canaan, which had to do with the giants.

• 1:07:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  So the Israelites, just, just going back, they send twelve spies to go into the land of Canaan. They're wandering for forty years. They're like, okay, this is the land that God had promised us, we're, we're about to walk in. They send in twelve spies. Ten of them come back and are like, shoot, there's giants here. And we're like grasshoppers to them. And then, then they're like, all right, well, we're not gonna go in here because we don't wanna fight these giants. So that's what I'm gonna edge you with. And, and then we're gonna go back to Genesis six.

• 1:07:55Speaker 03

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• 1:07:56Speaker 06

  Hold on.

• 1:07:56Speaker 03

  Wendigooning, is it?

• 1:07:57Speaker 06

  Only ten of them did that? What the other two did? They did wanna fight the giants?

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  I don't remember. I don't remember.

• 1:08:03Speaker 06

  They were into that shit.

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I, I just remember.

• 1:08:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:11Speaker 03

  We would view, as we would view grasshoppers.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:08:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:15Speaker 02

  Yep, yep, pretty much. So they saw these giants in there.

• 1:08:17Speaker 03

  That's hyperbolic.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  But then the question is, how did the giants get there? Enter Genesis six. So Genesis six says that, you know, this was in, this is in the days of Noah. It said, when the sons of God, you know who they are, remember? The Benet Ahim, the supernatural beings, saw that the daughters of men were attractive humans.

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, cause it was like the Nephilim, like, spawn of like angels and humans, right?

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  Yep. And so these, these rebellious sort of angels, what we'll call them, even though angel is not the right term, which, which we'll get into, there's the whole thing on that, too.

• 1:08:54Speaker 02

  So the, these guys rebelled, married these human women and then had intercourse with them, I presume, because that's probably how it happened. And then their offspring was the Nephilim, which is what we, you know, we now translate, translate today as giants. And so what happened was the Bible just tells you that. It says that when the sons of God saw the daughters of mankind, saw that they were beautiful, they had, um, you know, had intercourse with them.

• 1:09:18Speaker 03

  I have logistical questions here.

• 1:09:20Speaker 02

  Produce the Nephilim, yeah.

• 1:09:22Speaker 03

  Cause we think of angels in the very, you know, cherubim kind of way, like angel, angel.

• 1:09:29Speaker 06

  I like the terrifying ones.

• 1:09:30Speaker 03

  That's what I'm wondering, like the, the actual, you know, the, I know it's a meme now, the biblically correct, biblically accurate angels. How, how does that work?

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:40Speaker 03

  It's never explained, I imagine.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  The photo, on, on, on contrary, those, those modern videos unfortunately are not biblically accurate angels.

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  Namely, because usually those are representations of cherubim and seraphim, which according to the Bible and the terms that it uses are not angels.

• 1:10:03Speaker 02

  Hold up. What the heck did I just say? Well, there's three buckets of terms that are used for angels, but just, just in specifically the, the Old Testament. There are terms that describe what a being is. So like what it is ontologically, i.e. ruach, which is the Hebrew term for spirit. So you can have spirit beings. That's what something is. Elohim is another one of those terms. It's what something is. It's, it's resident of the supernatural realm. And then the second bucket of terms we have for angels are terms of hierarchy. So, sons of God. If you think about an ancient sort of kingdom, you had the king and then beneath him, who had the most important roles? His bureaucracy, the sons of God, the people who were like closest to him. The third tier, you, um, or, um, and so, so then there, there's terms for that. There's like archangel.

• 1:10:48Speaker 03

  I'm just thinking back to, yeah, I'm thinking back to like, uh, it was a long time ago, but Isaiah did a very good video on like the, the angel tier list, I think.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:56Speaker 03

  Iceberg, yeah, the iceberg. Yeah, yeah. Something like that, where he explains the, the hierarchy of.

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:11:01Speaker 03

  The, I guess the divine kingdom.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. Um, and then most importantly, this is, this is like the, the most important thing I'm about to say on, say on angels. There's the third category of terms of use for angels that describe function. That is where the term angel lives. An angel, according to the Bible, is not what something is. It's what something does. It is a function. It is a job description because the, the Hebrew term malach gets translated directly as messenger. And that's, and then in Greek, that becomes angeloi. So an angel, according to the Bible, is what, is what something does. So if a supernatural being, um, takes on the form of a messenger, then it takes, takes on the function of an angel, but it's not what something

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  is. Cherubim and seraphim are the, are in that same bucket or in that same category. They're, they're job descriptions. Seraphim and cherubim are usually, um, their function in, at least in, in the biblical text is they are sacred throne guardians. That's their function. So that's not ontologically what they are. It's what their function is. And, and angels no different. So when we say the word angel, we immediately assume that the biblically, or those are the biblically accurate sort of angels. But the, the actual Hebrew words that are used for it is much more nuanced and much more different. And like, you know, this goes to our modern world. We just say the word angel and we just mean anything in the supernatural world. Whereas the biblical writers clearly had a much more nuanced, much more like in-depth layer of like all the different nuances of the spiritual beings.

• 1:12:28Speaker 06

  So what were they describing when you have like the eyes or what do you think they were?

• 1:12:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, I mean, yeah.

• 1:12:34Speaker 06

  Or creature at that point.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  So, so the, the cherubim in specifically, I think it's like Ezekiel 28, but mainly in Ezekiel, chapter one, he's seen like these composite creatures where there's four different faces. And then they have, you know, two wings covering their eyes, two wings for flight, two wings covering their feet. Same thing with seraphim. Isaiah, chapter six, you have, Isaiah needs to be purified in order to, in order to enter the presence of God. And so, um, like this angel, the seraph takes burning coals and like puts it in his mouth or something like that. So, so that he was purified. I know it's crazy. Um, but by definition, if we're just going based off the, the biblical terms that the Bible uses, they are not classified as angels. However, if a supernatural being takes on a message, because like humans can

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  be called angels too. In, in, in the Bible, oftentimes angels actually don't appear in that way at all. They, they appear as humans. Almost like, I think it's like 95% of the time in the Bible, when, when it uses the term angel, people are appearing in human flesh.

• 1:13:32Speaker 06

  And that's where the Nephilim and your, do you think it's those versions of angels?

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  Well, Nephilim are a whole different.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:39Speaker 01

  Thing.

• 1:13:40Speaker 06

  Well, no, but they're the ones that slept with the humans in human form.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  The, the, the sons of God rebelled in heaven. Remember that, that like second tier? So it's like you have Yahweh at the top, you have the sons of God, and then you have the angels below him. So these, these were, these were the sons of God who, who came down.

• 1:13:55Speaker 06

  So this is your Lucifer, but not Lucifer. This is a different one.

• 1:13:59Speaker 01

  If you're talking about the Nephilim, Nephilim were the fallen sons of God who mated with humans and that's where the Nephilim comes from, right?

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Yep. Yes, sir.

• 1:14:06Speaker 06

  Yeah. So the second tier, which Lucifer falls in the second tier, correct?

• 1:14:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. So Lucifer in, um, Lucifer just gets trans, Lucifer is not a personal name for Satan. It's.

• 1:14:16Speaker 06

  There is one time he used that name.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  It's just, it's just, uh, Jerome translated it in Latin. Um, it just means like mornings or, uh, not mornings.

• 1:14:23Speaker 06

  Fallen star.

• 1:14:24Speaker 02

  You know, it's not fallen. It means like light or the, like the light. It has something to do with light.

• 1:14:28Speaker 06

  Like light bringer or something?

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not, it's not a personal, personal name for Satan. Um, which that's another.

• 1:14:36Speaker 06

  It's a, yeah. That's what's crazy. That's only mentioned a single time.

• 1:14:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:40Speaker 06

  And it's just, it's the idea of like, oh, can God always live in heaven or what? Because was it during Satan, however, it's described, it meets with God in heaven, right? When they discuss Job, again, I was far off topic. We'll get to the Nephilim's, but it's one of those questions I've always found.

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  Well, that's a really good segue into talking about the divine council, which ties into that solity two thing. So in Job, chapter one, you have, um, you have Satan, um, appearing to God and it says the other sons of God were among them. So God is in this divine assembly. He's in this divine council, so to speak. And then Satan comes and shows up. Do you want to know the problem with that? In Hebrew, the name translated Satan there has a definitive article in front of it. So it is not capital S Satan. It is Ha-Satan, which literally just gets, uh, gets translated to the adversary or the accuser, because that's what the word Satan means. So when you, it's like, if you say the word Satan, you mean adversary or accuser. But that Satan in Job one and two has the definitive article. It's

• 1:15:42Speaker 02

  the same way. You're not the Eli and I'm not the Nils. This is the Satan. So even that is not directly personified as the serpent who rebelled in Genesis three.

• 1:15:51Speaker 06

  Oh, those are completely separate too?

• 1:15:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:53Speaker 03

  Not the same. That there's no direct tie to that directly. Like that, that, that was one thing that kind of fucked me up a little bit years ago when I, I learned about it. I was like, whoa, whoa. Cause like.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  It's like this whole time I thought it was Satan.

• 1:16:03Speaker 03

  Well, as a kid, that's what you're taught.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:16:04Speaker 03

  Like, oh, this is.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:07Speaker 03

  Like this was just the devil appearing as a snake. And it's like, there's not saying that wasn't what it was, but it is never explicitly stated anywhere.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  Well, the, well, the term that the Bible uses in Genesis three for, we'll just call them, we'll just call them Satan, just, just to make it easy. It's not like technically correct, but, um, the Hebrew word used for it is, uh, nachash. And that is.

• 1:16:27Speaker 03

  Bless you.

• 1:16:30Speaker 02

  Thank you. Nachash. There you go. Um, I'm working on my Hebrew. Um, so the way that gets translated in Genesis three is it's a triple entendre in Hebrew. It means, it kind of has three meanings at the same time. So number one, it means serpent. Uh, number two, it means, um, shining one, which was just how supernatural beings were kind of viewed. Like when people looked up into the sky and they saw the stars and thought they were angels. They were like, oh yeah, they're like pretty shiny. Um, then the third one is divination or like the divine or someone who like gives sort of like divine sort of knowledge. And if you think about that rebel, he kind of embodied all three of those things. He wasn't a lit, like Genesis three, they're like describing the serpent in that way. It's

• 1:17:11Speaker 02

  not the fact that he was a snake. The Bible never says, says that he was a snake. He was likely, um, or not even likely, he was a member of God's divine council, those sons of God, who Ezekiel 28 says one, he was like a guardian anointed cherub, but he took on the form of, uh, nachash. And then that's what he was able to, um, tempt Ed with, uh, because he appeared as one of like their own angels that, that they would have been familiar with. Cause Eden was like the meeting point, meeting point between like heaven and, and the rest of the cosmos. And so it wouldn't have been weird for them to see this being kind of come in, but it would have been weird for this being to come in and tell them to do something that was contrary to what God had told them, told them to do.

• 1:17:52Speaker 03

  Like just to segue on that a little bit real quick. It's kind of funny how much of like modern, I guess, Christian canon that we think of as like fact and something that like, okay, that's obviously in the Bible, because that's what I've seen portrayed in, you know, uh, paintings and things like that, uh, comes from like basically biblical fanfiction, like Paradise Lost.

• 1:18:12Speaker 02

  That's exactly what it is.

• 1:18:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. Like, like it's stuff that came a thousand years later, 1500 years later, that we just kind of adopted into like the zeitgeist of what Christianity is.

• 1:18:21Speaker 06

  So you la agreement is, oh, I know it. Check or you hear these stories and then that's what you think. Like even.

• 1:18:28Speaker 03

  Well, it's just like.

• 1:18:28Speaker 06

  Same versus this. Like this is the first time I'm even learning. It's like, oh no, that was ace.

• 1:18:33Speaker 03

  Well, it's like Paradise Lost is basically like it's historical fiction where it's like, okay, it takes things that are in the Bible and it fills in a bunch of details that are never stated anywhere. It's a, it's a piece of fiction, but it's.

• 1:18:44Speaker 02

  Really, really good story though. It's really, I did a two hour video on it.

• 1:18:47Speaker 03

  But it, but it permeated Christian culture so much that like it's kind of become adopted.

• 1:18:52Speaker 02

  Like even our view of hell is kind of somewhat filtered from Dante's Inferno.

• 1:18:58Speaker 03

  Where were we?

• 1:18:58Speaker 06

  Which we have to be careful about.

• 1:18:59Speaker 03

  I'm still, again, the influence of man.

• 1:19:01The Fat Electrician?

  I'm confused. What, so what happened to all the other gods from earlier after the Tower of Babel thing?

• 1:19:08Speaker 02

  Yes, so they were, um, they were said, put over to rule the nations. So like you have in the books of, of Daniel where it says like the Prince of Persia was fighting Michael the Arch, Michael the Archangel. So it's just like, there was like a supernatural like battle going on, just like, if you think about these like patron deities that these cultures kind of have, that's kind of what they turned into.

• 1:19:27The Fat Electrician?

  Right. Like what happened after that? Cause obviously like those cultures like disappeared or whatever. They're just out there in the ether somewhere or what?

• 1:19:33Speaker 02

  Right. It just, it just turned into different ones. Cause if you think about the, the Greek gods and the Roman, how the Roman gods came from then.

• 1:19:38The Fat Electrician?

  Okay.

• 1:19:38Speaker 02

  And I mean, I mean, what it kind of what that Jordan Peterson, you, you, you were talking about before about like cultures kind of like looked at these things and described.

• 1:19:46Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  The deities. So.

• 1:19:47Speaker 06

  The personification.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, the personification of them.

• 1:19:50Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:19:50Speaker 03

  So is it like, there's, is there a possibility? Cause like I'm, I'm very fresh to this sort of topic, I guess. Uh, like that, you know, it's, it's somewhat metaphorical in the way that it's like the battling of, you know, deities of other cultures or things that I, I really don't know.

• 1:20:06Speaker 02

  Hmm. Well, I mean, I, I don't know if you can say metaphorical because Paul, Paul in the New Testament says we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but principalities, powers, thrones, dominions, um, authorities and all those things. And all the terms that Paul uses there are terms that describe geographical rulership. So there is the sort of sense that there was a literal like God gave over these nations to be ruled by these lesser Elohim. Otherwise, why would God be judging them? And, you know, and so many too, you know? And so like my, my, my view of it is.

• 1:20:32Speaker 03

  I guess my thing is like just nations that are like, have other, other, uh, perceived rulers.

• 1:20:38Speaker 02

  Oh, right.

• 1:20:39Speaker 03

  Like that, that sort of thing.

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:20:41Speaker 03

  Obviously like a very physical like difference, like.

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:20:43Speaker 03

  The Greeks believing this, this culture believing this, but like not necessarily the legitimacy of their deities, but the fact that they worship them.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right.

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• 1:22:36The Fat Electrician?

  Giants, you were at Giants.

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  That's right. Okay. So anyways, the, the Nephilim show up. And so what happens is the Bible just gives you this, it gives you four verses on, on these Nephilim in Genesis six. It says that, all right, these fallen angels came, they had intercourse with the women. Okay. The, the Nephilim are here. All right, moving on. Um, but, but what happened is, and this is where, so we have the biblical canon.

• 1:22:56Speaker 03

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• 1:22:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:59Speaker 03

  I answered my own question while I was in the bathroom thinking about it, uh, cause I was listening to you guys talk. And I, my immediate thought went to Sodom and Gomorrah where, uh, like they sent the, uh, the two angels and they immediately tried to.

• 1:23:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yep.

• 1:23:10Speaker 03

  Where it's like, it's like a physical, like a human embodiment of an angel. It's like, okay, well, if that's on the table, then okay, that, that does make sense.

• 1:23:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. Um, are you, are you talking about in regard to like angels appearing in like human form?

• 1:23:21Speaker 03

  Uh, yes. And specifically like the, I guess the.

• 1:23:24Speaker 06

  Different class.

• 1:23:25Speaker 03

  Logistics of, you know, how does a angel that is described a certain way breed with a human? And like that, that, that was the question that spawned from that.

• 1:23:32Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Um, so however, there is a book that isn't in the biblical canon, except for one church, which is the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, which is the book of first Enoch. And the book of Enoch is pretty much an amalgamation of, of different writings, but more or less it is a, um, non-canonical book of the Bible that was written between the Old Testament and, and the New Testament. That really expounded on the Genesis six story of, um, the Nephilim. So like I said, in Genesis, we get four verses describing how the angels came and had sex with women and then, and then created the Nephilim. All of, pretty much all of, um, first Enoch is about expounding on that story.

• 1:24:10Speaker 06

  It's not canon?

• 1:24:11Speaker 02

  It's, it, it's not canonical. However, that doesn't mean it's not important. So we don't believe that it's inspired scripture.

• 1:24:16Speaker 03

  Stupid question. Is that, is that part of the, I forget what the, uh, the Catholic books that are like non-canonical, but.

• 1:24:23The Fat Electrician?

  You're talking about the catechism?

• 1:24:25Speaker 02

  Apocrypha.

• 1:24:25Speaker 03

  Apocrypha. Thank you.

• 1:24:26Speaker 02

  They call.

• 1:24:27Speaker 03

  Is that part of that or?

• 1:24:28Speaker 02

  So it's a part, the Protestants would call it the Apocrypha, but they call it the deuterocanonical because they actually do think it is canon or, um, or those, those like types of books where.

• 1:24:36Speaker 03

  Right. Cause I, I knew you can have those different, like you could have the Bible and then the, the Bible with the Apocrypha texts.

• 1:24:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. So pretty much what happened was, so in between the Old Testament, you have the book of Malachi, which is, which is where the Old Testament ends. And then at the start of the New Testament, you have the book of Matthew. And like I said, there was like this 400 year gap in here. So you had a lot of like serious Israelites and serious Jews who were reading their Old Testaments and thinking, man, like, like, what's going on? Is like, is there anything where we're sort of like missing, missing in all this? So like they, they, they just start writing pretty much. And so like one of them, so like, but, but.

• 1:25:08Speaker 06

  That's wild.

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  But it's, it's, um, so it, it tells a story that there was 200 of these fallen, you know, divine sons of God. They descended on a place called Mount Hermann, which is a real place. You, you can go there. I think there's like a UN like facility there or something like that. They're probably up to no good.

• 1:25:23Speaker 03

  Um, that's the UN. They rarely are.

• 1:25:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. But.

• 1:25:26Speaker 03

  They're hiding the giants, damn it.

• 1:25:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. So that's where, um, these fallen angels descended and they made a pact with one another. There were 200 of them and we're just like, hey, like we're going to commit to this. Um, yeah, we're going to piss off God, but we're going to commit to this. And then they're the ones who actually go and have, um, relations with the women on the earth and they, they produce the Nephilim. And then after that, Enoch talks about how essentially human depravity, so, um, just escalated. So you had the fall in Genesis three where sin entered the world, you know, through, through, um, Adam and Eve.

• 1:25:57Speaker 03

  And shortly after there are furries.

• 1:26:00The Fat Electrician?

  That was chapter two.

• 1:26:03Speaker 03

  Sorry to keep derailing you.

• 1:26:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:05Speaker 03

  I keep flashbang.

• 1:26:09Speaker 02

  But like Genesis six is where that rebellion escalated because now you have these fallen angels in Enoch are teaching them about like metallurgy and like making weapons and cosmetics and omens and doing all these different types of things. So this is where humanity just pretty much got really good at killing one another and they kind of like escalated that. And then it was after that, you know, cause that happens in Genesis six, then you have the Tower of Babel later. So we have a human, or we have human rebellion, which sin enters the world. We have a supernatural rebellion in Genesis six, and then we have a human rebellion again in, in Genesis 11. So a lot of Christians tend to think that, oh, there was just like one fall and that explains why the world is the way it is. But an ancient Israelite would have been reading their Bible and saying, no, there's really like three reasons why the world is the way it is right now.

• 1:26:51Speaker 02

  Um, and just, and Genesis six with the Nephilim, things just got progressively worse. Um, and that's why God had to send the flood. Um, because it said that, like, uh, I think it says like evil was in the heart of like every single man or something like, it just got so depraved. Um, during that time. So that's what Enoch expounds on. Now, it's not canonical in the sense that is in the Bible. However, the two New Testament writers are aware of it because, you know, the, the, the writers of the Bible are smart. They're reading books, they're, they're making cross references. They're doing all these different types of things. Two of them reference, um, the, the story of Enoch. So just because it wasn't canonical, it didn't mean that it wasn't important.

• 1:27:30Speaker 02

  And we know that because Paul, obviously he's writing the, the, he wrote like 70% of the New Testament, but he quotes Greek, um, Greek poets and different stuff like that. So, um.

• 1:27:41Speaker 03

  Just a well-read individual.

• 1:27:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like these people were like well-read. They were, you know, they're, they were just really smart. And so pretty much from that time, it says, uh, that when God set the flood, it said the Nephilim was on the earth before and after those days. So somehow the Nephilim survived the flood. And there's, there's different theories. Um, I haven't really done a whole lot of digging on getting into detail about like all, all the different theories. But essentially these Nephilim survived and they start populating, um, all these, you know, lands of Canaan. So we get to the 12 spies going out there and then they're like, holy cow, we see giants up there.

• 1:28:17Speaker 02

  And then they're scared, but eventually Moses doesn't want to go in. So God's just like, all right, well, you're not going to be going in. You're going to die before you ever see the promised land. But then Joshua, I can't remember if it's his son, but the, the guy who essentially, um, replaces Moses goes in. And then he conquests all of Canaan, kills, kills all the giants. And we know that, um, and this is the part where you talked about like words that sort of like can be like kind of hyperbolic. In the book of Judges or, um, not Judges, in the book of, uh, Joshua, when he goes up and conquers Canaan, remember they were just out of Egypt? They were wandering for 40 years and now they're into the land that God had promised them.

• 1:28:52Speaker 06

  This is the people who are like, yo, there's a whole bunch of giants here.

• 1:28:54Speaker 02

  Yep. Yep. So, so they're entering in here and then they just do all this killing. God tells them to go in, uh, the Hebrew word is karem, which means devote to destruction, certain groups in this land. Now.

• 1:29:06Speaker 06

  Karem's a gangster word.

• 1:29:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. Karem. And so like, people will look at this and see that, well, God commanded genocide because God told them to devote to destruction, man, woman and child from, from these particular places. Well, some context matters here, Mr. Eli, Mr. Nick.

• 1:29:23Speaker 02

  Operator.

• 1:29:25Speaker 02

  Context matters in the sense that

• 1:29:29Speaker 02

  God only gave that instruction for them to devote to destruction and completely wipe out only the places in the hill country of the of the land of Canaan. And the people who were living in the hill country of Canaan were the giants. The people who were living in like the valleys, tho- those are the humans and God told them to just like drive them out. But to the hill country, to the giants, God told them to devote to destruction. So the conquest was just as much removing the Nephilim from the land, just as much as it was going in and in conquering the land, so to speak.

• 1:29:57Speaker 01

  Were the giant cyclopses?

• 1:29:59Speaker 02

  No, probably not.

• 1:30:01Speaker 03

  Christopher Nolan lied to me.

• 1:30:04Speaker 01

  The hills have eyes. They're singular.

• 1:30:11Speaker 03

  So there's, this is one funny fact I will throw out there. So there's an internet, I don't know if it's a, an urban legend or what it is, but it's, it's kind of like in the, the public consciousness that the Smithsonian at one point had Nephilim bones or giant bones. Well, for sure, there is officially, it never existed, quote unquote, but I, I don't actually even know where this started. Uh, but it's kind of like a commonly known thing that like in the 1920s or something like that, the Smithsonian had accessed or had the bones to like a Nephilim or a giant, and then they smashed them. They were, they were told to smash them.

• 1:30:45Speaker 06

  Smithsonian has locked away a whole bunch of stuff where they're like, nope, we didn't touch it, or they just, we got rid of it.

• 1:30:50Speaker 03

  So that's a well-known thing. The Smithsonian does have a bunch of artifacts that are not on display that they keep in their own like private vaults.

• 1:30:57Speaker 06

  Well, and then they got rid of too. Like as you're talking, it just goes over that where it's like, nope, we don't know what you're talking and you can't even request information on it, right?

• 1:31:05Speaker 03

  I read about this like a year or two ago. I, I'm probably poorly remembering it, but I, I, I heard that there was no actual like factual basis for it, but it was just something that was told over and over again. But I did find out uh, congressmen do have uh, access to all of the, the vaults of the Smithsonian that are not publicly available. So show me the fucking Nephilim. I'm coming for the bones.

• 1:31:28Speaker 01

  The gang steals bones. Change the name, but.

• 1:31:32Speaker 03

  Show me the giants. I'm going to take Isaiah with me too.

• 1:31:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:31:38Speaker 02

  Please do.

• 1:31:39Speaker 06

  Enoch was the, I, that's what I was like, man, that name sounds super familiar. He's the only dude that went to heaven without, and it's such a short passage for the book of Enoch did, why does it have his name? Cause this is the only dude that's like, hey, homie was great. We took him to heaven, didn't die and then.

• 1:31:54Speaker 02

  So, yeah, obviously Enoch did not write first Enoch or second Enoch or, or third Enoch. They're, they're, um, the term used for it is pseudopigraphal. So it's just like, they just ascribed the name Enoch to it, but Enoch of course didn't write it cause he was taken up to heaven. And there was one other person who was taken up to heaven and that was the prophet Elijah. Oh, and in second Kings, yeah.

• 1:32:14Speaker 02

  So giants, where were we?

• 1:32:17Speaker 06

  They were, oh, it was uh, killing giants. It was like, yo, get rid of these things. And that one was the, was it like, hey, these creatures shouldn't exist? Or what was the mindset?

• 1:32:26Speaker 02

  Well, the, the idea was the, this was just a forbidden mixture and it was actually through Enoch kind of expounds that the.

• 1:32:33Speaker 03

  Like an abomination?

• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was abomination. So like, obviously God couldn't have Israel do what they needed to do if there were, if there were giants in the land.

• 1:32:42Speaker 02

  But where we get demons from, this idea comes from these Nephilim that died. Well, because they were sort of a half mixture, they didn't really have any place to go. So they just kind of became wandering spirits that, um, and then so like the dead spirits of the Nephilim essentially became what we modern, or what, what we now understand today is like New, New Testament demons and demonology and stuff like that.

• 1:33:02Speaker 01

  Is that their souls are just wandering?

• 1:33:03Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:33:04Speaker 06

  That makes sense because they didn't go anywhere. So now it's like, hey, this creature that is.

• 1:33:09Speaker 03

  I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I've never heard this before and I find that odd. Uh, we're like, what, what is the, I guess, reference for this?

• 1:33:16Speaker 02

  So that, that sort of developed in the second temple period, like you, you, you get stuff like uh, Enoch talks about this in, in Michael Heiser's book, um, demons, you can, you, you can read more. I think he talks about it in the, in the unseen realm too. But yeah, is the, the idea, or at least their understanding of where demons come from, especially in this um, intertestamental period between the Old Testament and New Testament, when these people were like writing things, that's how they, that's how the idea of demons sort of like.

• 1:33:41Speaker 03

  Because like my layman understanding is that it's like, uh, angels that were fallen.

• 1:33:46Speaker 02

  Exactly. Yeah. Well, right. But, um, those fallen angels in Genesis six, God put them in chains, um, and for gloomy darkness where they're, where they're right now, where they'll eventually be sent to Tartarus, which Paul uses the Greek word um, for, for hell there. So those angels rebelled. Um, but speaking of angels who didn't rebel, have you guys heard that uh, Satan rebelled with a third of the angels when that happened?

• 1:34:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:08Speaker 02

  Do you know that that's not in the Bible?

• 1:34:10Speaker 03

  I was kind of figuring that that was, yeah. It's more of that fan fiction stuff.

• 1:34:15Speaker 02

  There is one time in the Bible where the term third and the term angel show up together and it's in Revelation 12. And if you actually read Revelation 12, it's talking about the context of this happens at the birth of, the birth of the Messiah, which was Jesus. So there was no time when Satan rebelled with a third of the angels, um, of heaven in the, in the premier world. I guess. So if there's another factoid for you.

• 1:34:38Speaker 06

  I'm, I'm just going to trust you on all this cause I know a lot of stuff, even reading or studying it. Like I was like, oh, Enoch's the only one. And it's like, no, Elijah is also the one, but it's so much is lost with anything on this, you guys.

• 1:34:52Speaker 01

  I'd be so pissed.

• 1:34:54Speaker 03

  You'd be so pissed?

• 1:34:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:55Speaker 03

  Of, about one?

• 1:34:56Speaker 01

  Can you imagine if we, we got sent out to go kill giants and then we pulled it off or like bad news guys, now they're demons?

• 1:35:06Speaker 03

  So.

• 1:35:10Speaker 06

  Nick, I gotta say, that's a fucking kick ass series to write. You know, a bunch of SF dudes go out and they slay these fucking giants. Cause they're like, yeah, they shouldn't be here. Oh, we got ghosts now. Fuck.

• 1:35:26Speaker 02

  It's a way worse trade off.

• 1:35:28Speaker 01

  Now I need to shoot them with salt.

• 1:35:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like, well, call the Impala.

• 1:35:38Speaker 06

  Did you ever watch, um, uh, just speaking on biblical terms, did you ever watch, uh, the one from Kevin Smith, Dogma?

• 1:35:46Speaker 03

  I still haven't either.

• 1:35:48Speaker 06

  What?

• 1:35:49Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:35:49Speaker 06

  Nevermind. You haven't seen Lord of the Rings.

• 1:35:51Speaker 02

  What, what is that about? Dogma?

• 1:35:54Speaker 06

  Have you, have you seen it?

• 1:35:57Speaker 06

  It, I think he made that after, right after Clerks. So it was Clerks and then Dogma, or maybe one other.

• 1:36:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was after Clerks. It was after Clerks and, and all that stuff.

• 1:36:08Speaker 03

  It's like a movie famously like you can't find it, right? Cause it's not like streaming.

• 1:36:11Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause Weinstein, Weinstein took the, took the rights from it and Kevin Smith didn't have the rights for it for a while. And now you can actually go and watch it. And it's got Matt Damon and Ben Stiller or Ben Affleck. He's in.

• 1:36:24Speaker 06

  Selma Hayek.

• 1:36:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Selma Hayek's in it and, and, uh, Chris, uh, Chris Rock is in it.

• 1:36:31Speaker 06

  Uh, the guy that plays Snape?

• 1:36:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:36:33Speaker 03

  Alan Rickman.

• 1:36:34Speaker 01

  Alan Rickman. He, he plays Metatron. He's the voice of God in it and dude, it's got so many big actors in it. And I, I think he was trying to make fun of, of religion in a way. But it ended up being, it like, it ended up being like pretty good. It did really, really well. Like he

• 1:36:56Speaker 01

  good movie. If you ever watched that, I'm more surprised you haven't seen it.

• 1:36:59Speaker 03

  What's the deal? I think I've, I've heard about it a bunch. I'd never sat down and watched it. What's the deal with Weinstein? Like why, why did he, uh, or Weinstein? Uh, why, why didn't he, um, like, why did he try to poo poo the movie?

• 1:37:10Speaker 01

  I think it was right around the time that he got accused of, you know, women.

• 1:37:13Speaker 03

  It would have been way before I thought. Cause that was like, like late nineties.

• 1:37:18Speaker 01

  Somehow he, he ended up with the rights for it and Kevin Smith tried to get it back from, don't quote me on any of these shit. I'm, I'm not. I'm, I'm speaking off the, the top of my head here, but he finally, they were finally able to get the rights back for it. And now you can, you can watch it again.

• 1:37:34Speaker 03

  Cause I think it's on like fucking YouTube.

• 1:37:35Speaker 06

  It was held in, uh, legal limbo because, uh, Weinstein personally owned his distribution rights following his theatrical release. For years Weinstein refused to re-release the film or sell the rights back to Smith, demanding $5 million. Because that ownership predated the streaming era, the movie largely disappeared from digital platform and home video for a decade. Holy shit. Over a decade.

• 1:37:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. Cause it was kind of known as the movie you couldn't watch. And everybody kind of attributed that like, oh, it was because of the subject matter instead of like a licensing agreement.

• 1:38:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's great. I didn't even know that. Cause I watched it when it, back when it came out. So it was a long, long time.

• 1:38:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I, I don't know if the whole concept is like God is making fun of you, but in the end, it's like God always believed in you the entire time. If you watch it, it's, it's it's actually pretty good if, if you watch it. It's a good, yeah.

• 1:38:25Speaker 02

  Called Dogma?

• 1:38:26Speaker 01

  Dogma.

• 1:38:26Speaker 02

  How, how old is it?

• 1:38:27Speaker 01

  Holy shit. It came out in two thousand.

• 1:38:29Speaker 06

  Early two thousand.

• 1:38:29Speaker 01

  Or no, like 99 maybe.

• 1:38:33Speaker 03

  This is a good.

• 1:38:33Speaker 06

  You weren't born yet?

• 1:38:34Speaker 02

  No, I was born in 2000.

• 1:38:36Speaker 01

  Oh no. I think this came out like as you were born around that.

• 1:38:41Speaker 06

  You're pre nine 11 at least.

• 1:38:42Speaker 02

  I was pre nine 11.

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  I was talking with, I was talking with.

• 1:38:44Speaker 02

  I don't know where I was when I.

• 1:38:46Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't know what my friends have been telling me or what. But you might be into.

• 1:38:51Speaker 02

  The second tower, well, I'm one.

• 1:38:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. 1999 Dogma.

• 1:38:55Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you. Yeah. There we go. Nailed it. So you might be into the Bible stuff a little bit as I've heard, but no, it's, it's a really good story. And like, I don't know if they were trying to make fun of it back then, but it, it, it's pretty, it's pretty good.

• 1:39:07Speaker 02

  Well, I'm all for.

• 1:39:08Speaker 06

  Kevin Smith is, I mean.

• 1:39:10Speaker 01

  And he's a, he's a, he's a good director and everything.

• 1:39:12Speaker 06

  Kevin Smith, if you want some of the funniest shit.

• 1:39:15Speaker 01

  J and Silent Bob are in it.

• 1:39:17Speaker 06

  J and Silent Bob. And then when they talk, uh, Kevin Smith talking about working with Bruce Willis and all that is one of the most amazing stories.

• 1:39:24Speaker 03

  Which bit?

• 1:39:25Speaker 06

  He has an entire hour segment of talking about working on, uh, Die Hard four and not working with Bruce Willis or just like, oh yeah, I can, I can spice up this scene and then working with Bruce Willis the first time. And I cannot do that story justice. I will send it to you guys. Cause it is comedy gold.

• 1:39:43Speaker 03

  Give me the wave tops, like.

• 1:39:44Speaker 06

  He shows up for, he has to rewrite the scene with, uh, Bruce Willis in it, or he shows up first day and he's the nerd in Die Hard four.

• 1:39:54Speaker 06

  Bruce Willis shows up or he shows up, everyone's waiting. This is millions of dollars just for a single day. Like, hey, what are we, what are we doing? What are we waiting? Ah, it's BWT. It's like, what? BW? Bruce Willis time? Yeah. Wait, we're all holding for him just to shoot a scene. And this is like four hours fast. So they're waiting for Bruce Willis to show up. He's looking at the script. He's like, Bruce Willis finally shows up and it's like, hey, let me see. Oh, he wouldn't do this. So I can, oh, no. John McClane, John McClane wouldn't do any of this. This is stupid. Boom, boom, boom. Pass forward. It's like, well, I can try to rewrite the script for you. Oh, okay. Kevin Smith, fantastic writer. Like, this is how he's got to that point in his career.

• 1:40:40Speaker 06

  Like, yeah, again, I can take a shot at this. Him and Bruce Willis are talking. They're, the entire team's like, oh, yeah, we just wait for Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis is like, I'm not doing this. The, this scene sucks. I need it. No, he wouldn't say any of this. The director's like, well, I don't know what, uh, what, what, what can we do? It's like, okay, well, um, here, what, the, the studio's calling. They're saying we have to film this. Bruce Willis calls the studio. It's like, hey, I'm not doing this. The, this scene is garbage. I would never say it. John McClane wouldn't say that. Well, you're gonna have to say, it's like, okay, well, uh, who do you, who else do you have to play John McClane? That's what I thought. We're rewriting it. Fuck off. Click. They went,

• 1:41:20Speaker 06

  gave Kevin Smith a day to rewrite everything. He comes back two days later. Bruce Willis loves it. And then they shoot exactly what he wrote, but then Kevin Smith goes into moron working with Bruce Willis and how that was as a moment or a time because he did that movie with him.

• 1:41:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:41Speaker 06

  That movie, yeah. He has a lot of stories about it. He loves him still. He like, he paid his respect, but he's like, I would never work with that guy again or film with him.

• 1:41:49Speaker 01

  Second time. I don't know why.

• 1:41:51Speaker 02

  Oh, it was not the second time. That was like three or four.

• 1:41:54Speaker 06

  Oh, really?

• 1:41:56Speaker 01

  That was for Die Harder, right? The one that we, with Justin Long?

• 1:42:02Speaker 06

  Yes, yes, exactly.

• 1:42:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, the one with Justin Long when they first started. That would, that was, yeah, that was right after Dogma.

• 1:42:07Speaker 03

  Is it Die Hard with a Vengeance? Is that the?

• 1:42:10Speaker 06

  I order Die Harder.

• 1:42:11Speaker 03

  Is it Die Harder?

• 1:42:12Speaker 01

  Shit like the.

• 1:42:13Speaker 06

  Die Hard.

• 1:42:14Speaker 03

  Live Free or Die Hard?

• 1:42:15Speaker 06

  Live Free or Die Hard. Yep.

• 1:42:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:42:17Speaker 02

  How many Die Hard? I've never seen a Die Hard movie. How many are there?

• 1:42:20Speaker 01

  Are you, are you gonna watch?

• 1:42:21Speaker 03

  What do you watch at Christmas?

• 1:42:22The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah, how old are you?

• 1:42:23Speaker 02

  Twenty-six. Halfway to fifty-two.

• 1:42:26The Fat Electrician?

  He commented on my YouTube video one time.

• 1:42:29Speaker 03

  I, you were telling me this story.

• 1:42:30The Fat Electrician?

  He commented on my Swamp Fox videos. Like, I went to Francis Marion University. I didn't know any of this.

• 1:42:35Speaker 02

  South Carolina. I went to Francis Marion University and you just did a video on that guy. I had no idea why it was called Francis Marion or what a Swamp Fox is.

• 1:42:40Speaker 03

  He's kind of a big deal down there.

• 1:42:41Speaker 02

  Kind of a big deal.

• 1:42:42Speaker 06

  Were you like, who's this guy? Cause I knew it popped up.

• 1:42:44The Fat Electrician?

  It pops up as like, it like sorts through by follower count. I was like, that's interesting.

• 1:42:50Speaker 02

  This handsome blonde guy commented on my videos.

• 1:42:52Speaker 03

  Connor was, Connor was playing that one game. Uh, I forget what they call it, but you like, you're those, uh, little stick figure guys and you have to paint yourself like your surroundings.

• 1:43:01Speaker 02

  Mecha Chameleon?

• 1:43:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, that one. He, uh, he's been playing that lately.

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  Who is it?

• 1:43:06Speaker 03

  Uh, Connor. The guy who's just here a second ago. And, uh, you know, there's a bunch of kids apparently that play that game. So he's just enjoying his time just bullying children and.

• 1:43:18Speaker 02

  It's a really good pastime bullying children.

• 1:43:20Speaker 03

  He got into a server where it was a bunch of like older guys too, that were also helping him bully the children. And, uh, it's something along the lines of like, they're just like, oh, you know, they're talking about, oh, you're old, or you're this, whatever. He's like, shut up. You learned from nine eleven from a book. It's like, oh, hell. I kind of forget this new generation just didn't experience that.

• 1:43:40Speaker 02

  Oh, I did. It was one.

• 1:43:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:43:43Speaker 01

  When you were.

• 1:43:43Speaker 03

  Barely.

• 1:43:45Speaker 02

  Oh, but I did though.

• 1:43:45Speaker 03

  When's your birthday?

• 1:43:46Speaker 02

  January second.

• 1:43:48Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. Yeah. So you were a whole eighteen months.

• 1:43:50Speaker 01

  Of what year?

• 1:43:51Speaker 06

  Goo goo.

• 1:43:52Speaker 02

  Two thousand.

• 1:43:53Speaker 01

  Jesus, buddy.

• 1:43:54Speaker 06

  God, that's young. That is wild.

• 1:43:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:43:58Speaker 06

  Hey, you're not two thousand. Oh, man, you are so young.

• 1:44:02Speaker 02

  Yo, Neil. How old are all you guys?

• 1:44:03Speaker 01

  You, hold, hold on real quick. You gonna watch Dogma for me?

• 1:44:07Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 1:44:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:44:09Speaker 02

  How do you write that down?

• 1:44:10The Fat Electrician?

  Go around the table and guess ages.

• 1:44:11Speaker 01

  I'm telling you, like, I want to hear your take of it. That's actually a good video for you, by the way.

• 1:44:16Speaker 02

  To do Dogma?

• 1:44:17Speaker 01

  You, you breaking down Dogma? That's a, that's a million view video right there, young kid.

• 1:44:23Speaker 06

  Oh, we had a title like, uh.

• 1:44:25Speaker 03

  The truth and falsehoods.

• 1:44:28Speaker 06

  Bible historian breaks the buck.

• 1:44:29Speaker 01

  Oh, no, no, no, because it was a, it was a banned video for a while. Me breaking down the banned video.

• 1:44:36Speaker 03

  Well, just, well, that's what we were just talking about. It wasn't like banned. It was just like.

• 1:44:40Speaker 06

  But I, you play with the words.

• 1:44:42Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just clickbait. Just fucking lie.

• 1:44:44Speaker 01

  Well, you know, I, I tried to go back and watch it like five years ago. Couldn't get it in anywhere. I had to go on, on like, you know, Pirate Bay and find it to watch it.

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  Dude, I didn't even make a video on it? Would YouTube allow me to?

• 1:44:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, shit. Yeah, absolutely, dude.

• 1:45:00Speaker 02

  Okay. I'm gonna have to become a reaction YouTuber.

• 1:45:03Speaker 06

  Just one.

• 1:45:04Speaker 01

  Sure. Oh, fuck off.

• 1:45:05Speaker 03

  A fate worse than death.

• 1:45:07Speaker 06

  His is movies, Cody. Yours is different. He's like, I react to, you react to.

• 1:45:13Speaker 01

  No, I would just, your, your biblical knowledge, breaking down Dogma, like, I would watch that movie all, or that video, that YouTube video all day long.

• 1:45:22Speaker 02

  All right, all right.

• 1:45:22Speaker 06

  That's a huge.

• 1:45:23Speaker 01

  It's pretty cool, man. Cause they're, they're biblically, biblically accurate with like a lot of the characters and a lot of.

• 1:45:30Speaker 03

  I haven't seen it, but I don't feel like that's true.

• 1:45:32Speaker 02

  I.

• 1:45:32Speaker 06

  Kevin Smith does a new.

• 1:45:33Speaker 02

  You said the name Metatron, which comes from Thirty Knock, which is probably the most craziest garbage out there.

• 1:45:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, Alan Rickman is Metatron. Dude, it's kind, it's a kind of a cool movie.

• 1:45:44Speaker 03

  Salma Hayek's in the Bible?

• 1:45:48Speaker 01

  And she's hot in it. Sorry.

• 1:45:50Speaker 03

  Ah, I think we're getting to the crux of this one.

• 1:45:55Speaker 06

  I agree with Cody. It'd be a good one.

• 1:45:58Speaker 01

  It'd be cool if you broke that down, cause no one's watched it in twenty years now. It's such a good movie.

• 1:46:03Speaker 06

  Especially a genuine.

• 1:46:04Speaker 02

  I will heavily consider it.

• 1:46:06Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:46:06Speaker 02

  How about that?

• 1:46:07Speaker 03

  Doctor.

• 1:46:07Speaker 02

  Curious. I will heavily consider that.

• 1:46:10Speaker 03

  Dogma. Oh, wow. That's actually very highly rated. Like, compared to what I thought on like, on IMDb.

• 1:46:15Speaker 01

  George Carlin was in it before he died.

• 1:46:17Speaker 06

  Yep. It's a really, like, it has a powerhouse. If you look at that list of actors, that is.

• 1:46:22Speaker 03

  George Carlin playing a cardinal is very funny.

• 1:46:24Speaker 01

  It's, it's kind of funny, cause he plays George Carlin. He's like, ah.

• 1:46:27Speaker 06

  Fuck you.

• 1:46:28Speaker 01

  It was like, ah, I was fucking hitting my golf club today.

• 1:46:35Speaker 03

  All right, Matt Damon plays Loki.

• 1:46:40Speaker 03

  I'm starting to think this is not terribly biblically accurate.

• 1:46:43Speaker 01

  But that's why, that's why if he did.

• 1:46:45Speaker 02

  I was like, Loki's.

• 1:46:47Speaker 03

  That is Norse, that is Norse mythology.

• 1:46:49The Fat Electrician?

  That's Marvel.

• 1:46:50Speaker 03

  It's a result of the.

• 1:46:51Speaker 01

  It's Tom Hiddleston.

• 1:46:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, oh, yeah. There, I forgot about that.

• 1:46:54The Fat Electrician?

  Speaking of which, you guys know that, uh, um, who's the actor that plays Iron Man?

• 1:46:59Speaker 03

  Robert Downey Jr.

• 1:47:00The Fat Electrician?

  You know, he's cast as.

• 1:47:02Speaker 02

  That was weird.

• 1:47:02The Fat Electrician?

  How old are you? You know, he's cast as Doctor Downey.

• 1:47:06Speaker 02

  Marvel, to be fair.

• 1:47:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Thanks, buddy. They announced that like a year ago.

• 1:47:10The Fat Electrician?

  I know, I forgot.

• 1:47:11Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:47:12The Fat Electrician?

  So now I'm, I'm, I'm on conspiracy theory Marvel shorts in my algorithms everywhere.

• 1:47:17Speaker 01

  They didn't cast Pedro Pascal to play in the fifteenth.

• 1:47:22Speaker 03

  He's, he's a different guy in that movie.

• 1:47:27Speaker 06

  Is he in that too?

• 1:47:28Speaker 03

  He's in Fantastic Four.

• 1:47:29Speaker 06

  For fuck's sake.

• 1:47:30Speaker 02

  That's better than whoever Channing Tatum's character was.

• 1:47:33Speaker 03

  Gambit?

• 1:47:35Speaker 01

  With a French accent?

• 1:47:37Speaker 02

  That was, oh, I cringed so hard.

• 1:47:39Speaker 01

  At least he's an original character, not Pedro.

• 1:47:42Speaker 02

  Trying to make a name for myself.

• 1:47:43Speaker 01

  That's how it's fuck me.

• 1:47:45Speaker 02

  That was brutal. Gosh.

• 1:47:47Speaker 03

  This is devolving quickly.

• 1:47:49Speaker 06

  Oh, so fast. I love it. Hmm. I don't know. Like, oh, uh, get back, Brandon. Again, I just, now can we circle back to, you were the first individual.

• 1:47:59Speaker 03

  Sure, I just felt, I felt bad that we, we included a guest and didn't actually include any conversation. I was just trying to, you know.

• 1:48:04Speaker 06

  Thank you, Brandon. I appreciate that.

• 1:48:06Speaker 03

  I want you to feel like you're a part of this, you know?

• 1:48:08Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 1:48:09Speaker 03

  And I wanted to hear about Giants.

• 1:48:11Speaker 06

  I know, I know. I knew everyone was gonna circle back. He's like, oh, he's gonna be like, deep into the weeds on this. That's why I find it, I found it super interesting, cause it was, uh, even the Tower Babel. I was like, oh, or no, Eden and then other societies existing. I was like, I never even.

• 1:48:29Speaker 03

  I feel like we need the red flashing on the screen with the, like the alarms, like autism alert.

• 1:48:35Speaker 06

  They always do super, I, look at when we had Forgotten World Ian on. That was.

• 1:48:40Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Wow, yeah.

• 1:48:41Speaker 06

  Massive episode.

• 1:48:42Speaker 03

  We know, we know our audience.

• 1:48:44Speaker 06

  Yep. Like, oh, lock in.

• 1:48:46The Fat Electrician?

  Go ahead, one-upper. Tell your story. What'd you do last night?

• 1:48:48Speaker 03

  Well, before I. One up, uh, you tell your story first.

• 1:48:52The Fat Electrician?

  Oh, I have, I have a menu item at Taco John's now. I have the fat burrito and you can just go to Taco John's and order the fat electrician burrito now. And I was like, this is dropping tomorrow. And then Brandon goes out at twelve oh one to one up me.

• 1:49:05Speaker 03

  I got a call from GOA. Long story short, uh, there was a, a lawsuit that was filed because with the big, beautiful bill, um, there, it took the tax stamp price on a suppressor, SBR, or short barrel shotgun, down from two hundred dollars down to zero, which is constitutionally important because, uh, when the NFA was first instituted in nineteen thirty-four, the Supreme Court ruled that it was constitutional, because they were saying it was an infringement on the Second Amendment. Shocker, it is. Uh, but they were saying it was constitutional because Congress, not because you're, you're registering the firearm, but because Congress has the ability and the authority to levy tax. So you're registering the two hundred dollar tax, not registering

• 1:49:50Speaker 03

  the firearm, and that's why they approved it. So fast forward, with the big, beautiful bill fight, uh, we were able to take down, uh, we were originally trying to remove SBRs, SBSs, and silencers from the NFA entirely. The Senate parliamentarian, thanks to John Thune, uh, decided that that was not allowed. And so we just settled for returning it to zero dollars. So it's a zero dollar tax. Now, how the do you register a tax that is zero dollars? It's unpaid. There's, there's no tax now. So the only thing there is to register the firearm, which is the position of GOA and all these other groups, including myself. Uh, and apparently some Texas judge just agreed. So a federal court judge just declared that, um, he, he,

• 1:50:32Speaker 03

  he ruled that, yes, that's, that makes perfect sense. Now that you're not registering the tax, this is unconstitutional.

• 1:50:39Speaker 03

  Then the DOJ and ATF essentially had seven days to respond. It was really the DOJ had, had seven days to, uh, basically respond, respond to this injunction, saying that, oh, well, you know, we're going to appeal this and take it up to the Supreme Court. Uh, folks like myself and all the other gun rights groups, basically were pleading the, the administration to not appeal this.

• 1:51:04Speaker 03

  Five and a half days go by and everybody's just like.

• 1:51:09Speaker 03

  No appeal. We're like, oh shit, this might actually be happening. So I get a call from Aiden Johnson. Shout out, uh, my boy over at GOA.

• 1:51:19Speaker 03

  He says, hey, we've got this crazy idea. So the, some of the plaintiffs on the lawsuit were, um, Gun Owners of America, which is great, fantastic group. Silencer Co, Silencer Shop, and B and T. He's like, let's go to the silencer, uh, silencer shop, uh, HQ that is just opening up. Let's go there, cause they're one of the plaintiffs on the lawsuit. You're a member of GOA. And let's purchase a silencer co and B and T suppressor because apparently that like, uh, under the ruling of the lawsuit, those were the things that were protected. So you're like quadruple protected under this federal judge, uh, ruling. And it's under the jurisdiction of the judge because of where it was at geographically.

• 1:52:03Speaker 03

  So like, this is the best legal case possible. And on midnight, 12:01. Let's file for the very first. Transfer of a suppressor without an NFA tax stamp in 92 years since the NFA was put into, uh, into law.

• 1:52:18Speaker 06

  This is.

• 1:52:20Speaker 06

  That was. 12:01, like today.

• 1:52:21Speaker 03

  That's why my, that's why my, my eyes are bloodshot. I got home last night at like 4:00 AM.

• 1:52:25The Fat Electrician?

  Homie made history last night.

• 1:52:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:52:27Speaker 03

  So I have, uh, sitting on my kitchen counter, I have two suppressors, the first two suppressors that were transferred. Post ruling.

• 1:52:35The Fat Electrician?

  You're gonna frame them?

• 1:52:37Speaker 03

  I don't know what to do with them.

• 1:52:38Speaker 06

  You frame it.

• 1:52:39Speaker 03

  Oh, this is actually a great bit too. So we did actually, we made history. We, we were able to make it happen. The, the DOJ never, um, at least at, at time of recording, the DOJ still, they, they have like a 60 day window or something like that, but they had seven days before the judge's ruling, uh, went into effect. They did not appeal. Uh, so we'll see how this ages, but.

• 1:53:00Speaker 03

  So we, we did, as soon as the, the judge's ruling took effect, filed for the first NFA transfer, uh, of a suppressor, or excuse me, non-NFA transfer of a suppressor in 92 years. And they technically sold it to me. So it was two cans. It was a silencer co suppressor and a B and T suppressor. The first one, they charged me $17.76. And then the second one, they charged me $19.34, which is 1934 when the NFA came into. So it was great. It was just, it was phenomenal.

• 1:53:29Speaker 02

  I feel like that's not a lot of money for a suppressor.

• 1:53:31Speaker 03

  It's nothing. Yeah.

• 1:53:32Speaker 06

  Oh, no.

• 1:53:33Speaker 03

  Those are, those are very, very nice suppressors. It was a hearty discount. I greatly appreciate it, gentlemen.

• 1:53:39Speaker 06

  Dude, I, I seen that today. I, because again, TBI woke up, I was like, oh yeah, Brandon was doing that last night at midnight. Cause I remember it. I was like, why is Brandon going to Austin? That's all I could.

• 1:53:51Speaker 06

  Think.

• 1:53:51Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. Cause we left the autism forum.

• 1:53:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:53:53Speaker 03

  Which thank you, by the way, for helping.

• 1:53:55Speaker 06

  Forgot we did the autism forum last night too.

• 1:53:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, we did the, the autism forum is like, it was a campaign event, but like a, you know, an issues based forum.

• 1:54:01Speaker 01

  Eli, is that not such a retarded thing when it comes to suppressors? Oh, you're gonna kill more people if you got a suppressor, right?

• 1:54:08Speaker 06

  People think, again, like guns, when you hear suppressor, you're like, oh, it's like.

• 1:54:14Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:54:14Speaker 06

  Dude.

• 1:54:15Speaker 01

  No, it just lowers it a little bit.

• 1:54:17Speaker 03

  We need to take, take those people out to the range and let them shoot a suppressed 556.

• 1:54:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, like when, when we would bring the Hollywood type people out, like to the, to the range and things. They'd be like, is it gonna be loud? It's a suppressor. Oh, that. And, and they would be blown away by like, oh, it's not completely quiet. It just lowers it to where you don't have to wear ear pro with it.

• 1:54:41Speaker 03

  Take your standard AR-15 and put a suppressor on it and tell me if you want to shoot that without ear pro.

• 1:54:47Speaker 06

  It is, you're still doing, you're going down to like 132 decibels, right? 128 depending on the round, unless it's like subsonic ammo. It is. Uh, corridor digital, actually. I took them because they'd never fired a suppressed weapon before, and I had my Wolverine. And we were in indoor range. And they were like, oh man, holy shit, what's that like? I'm like, oh, actually, here, handed it to them. And they're like, oh, they took off their ear pros. Like this is gonna be hilarious. And then they pop a round off and like, oh, I thought it was like the, oh my God, that is not like John Wick 2 when they're in the subway and like.

• 1:55:27Speaker 06

  Everyone's just walking. No, it is.

• 1:55:31Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:55:31Speaker 06

  I'm clapping books together is what I always say. It's just like two books together.

• 1:55:35Speaker 01

  It's still loud, but it, you just don't have to wear ear pro for it.

• 1:55:39Speaker 03

  You're also just cycling the weapon too.

• 1:55:41Speaker 02

  And it's also much cooler.

• 1:55:42Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 1:55:46Speaker 01

  The point is you're not gonna wanna kill someone more because.

• 1:55:49Speaker 06

  No. It doesn't help it either.

• 1:55:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. But if you, uh, like just take, if, if you have like an AR-15 or something at home, just take that and, and just drop the bolt on it. You're still gonna have that sound no matter what. You have the sound of the weapon cycling. It's gonna be loud as shit either way.

• 1:56:06Speaker 06

  Especially 556. It's, and what Brandon did just, uh, since you're just getting into the world of firearms, it's something you would do, you'd have to pay $200 for to just buy a suppressor. And now you're waiting. Uh, you used to have to wait about 15 months. You'd send in your fingerprints, you'd send in everything. Then it's a 15 month window to wait. Once you purchased it and you cannot touch that thing.

• 1:56:30Speaker 03

  Just to have a piece of metal that on its own couldn't hurt anybody, but makes your ears ring less when you shoot.

• 1:56:36Speaker 06

  That's, that's a quiet suppressor. And that was, you'd wait 15 months.

• 1:56:41Speaker 02

  You weren't even allowed to use it after you got it or?

• 1:56:43Speaker 06

  You, yes, after 15 months, after $200 on top of what you spent. So all.

• 1:56:48Speaker 03

  Registration, all your fingerprints, your, and like biometrics, your fucking asshole imprint. Like you had to send in all sorts of shit.

• 1:56:56Speaker 06

  Just a pucker.

• 1:56:57Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:56:57Speaker 02

  You, you kinda know a lot about this. Did you invent a gun or something?

• 1:57:00Speaker 03

  Something like that.

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  Something like that.

• 1:57:01Speaker 03

  I've dabbled.

• 1:57:02Speaker 02

  I've heard.

• 1:57:04Speaker 06

  And then.

• 1:57:05Speaker 02

  It's three more better than the AK-47.

• 1:57:07Speaker 03

  Exactly three.

• 1:57:09Speaker 01

  AK-50. That's three more better.

• 1:57:12Speaker 03

  It's Mo betta.

• 1:57:14Speaker 02

  Three more better.

• 1:57:16Speaker 06

  But.

• 1:57:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, this was, uh, this was a big win. Cause that's something that, you know, that I, I mean, if you go to places like Europe, that, that's considered rude to fire your weapon without a suppressor.

• 1:57:25Speaker 06

  It's a death while too. There, you.

• 1:57:27Speaker 02

  Well, you can't do a lot of things in Europe.

• 1:57:29Speaker 06

  But you can have suppressors. You can have suppressors.

• 1:57:31Speaker 02

  What, a what?

• 1:57:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're, they're, oh, they're way more strict on their firearms, but they're like, dude, if you, if you're shooting a rifle, like dude, put a fucking suppressor on that. What, what's wrong with you?

• 1:57:41Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:57:41Speaker 03

  And so.

• 1:57:42Speaker 06

  You see why it's crazy.

• 1:57:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, it's, well, and, and the NFA entirely is just like an artifact of, you know, the, the mobster mentality, or excuse me, the, uh.

• 1:57:51Speaker 02

  Was that NFA stand for?

• 1:57:52Speaker 03

  Fear, uh, National Firearms Act, 1934. So you had.

• 1:57:56Speaker 02

  That's that one.

• 1:57:57Speaker 03

  You had like all these people that, all this organized crime that, that came up after prohibition. And they were like, okay, well, why is this organized crime here? Well, clearly it's not because of prohibition.

• 1:58:06Speaker 06

  Al Capone, baby.

• 1:58:07Speaker 03

  It's because of these machine gun suppressors, uh, sawing off shotguns, all these things. That's what we need to crack down on. And oddly enough, that didn't help with gang violence.

• 1:58:15The Fat Electrician?

  My favorite part about prohibition was when they intentionally poisoned US civilians.

• 1:58:20Speaker 03

  It was like 10,000 people.

• 1:58:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:58:21Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:58:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. You didn't know that?

• 1:58:23Speaker 01

  Let's hear it, Nick.

• 1:58:25The Fat Electrician?

  Oh, the government intentionally, they found out that people were like taking ingredients to make their own booze. And I forget which ingredient was, it was a type of, it was a particular type of alcohol that was actually poisonous. And they intentionally started using that instead, knowing that people would turn it into booze and people drank it and died.

• 1:58:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, it wasn't like.

• 1:58:47Speaker 02

  Would never do that.

• 1:58:47Speaker 01

  That sucks that prohibition happened and there was a group of people that didn't want it to happen more than others. And, um, that sucks that the, uh, the, the government poisoned a bunch of people to get booze out of their system.

• 1:59:00Speaker 03

  Well, it's crazy cause it's, it's not about saving lives at that point. It's about control.

• 1:59:04Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:59:05Speaker 06

  Oh, they literally, so it was adding, uh, the mandated additions of toxic chemicals such as methanol. To it. And because of that, bootleggers stole the supply and produced bootleg liquor that they were consumed by masses.

• 1:59:19The Fat Electrician?

  Deaths of approximately 10,000 Americans.

• 1:59:23Speaker 03

  I know my history.

• 1:59:23Speaker 06

  Approximately.

• 1:59:24Speaker 01

  Okay, so 1934, what, what weapons were they running around with that they wanted to ban?

• 1:59:29Speaker 03

  Well, that's where.

• 1:59:30Speaker 01

  Thompsons.

• 1:59:30Speaker 03

  That's where you saw like a lot of the, the Thompsons. That's what people were talking about, you know, sawing off shotguns specifically, short barrel rifles, uh, you know, machine guns, Thompsons.

• 1:59:38Speaker 01

  What was the barrel length of a Thompson at that time? Is that one of the biggest ones? Cause you saw like, they were, they were publishing new pa, newspapers back then. That was like one of the biggest things. Like everyone's looking in the newspapers and these crazy dudes running around with these.

• 1:59:52Speaker 03

  Well, the Thompsons were full auto. I, I want, I don't quote me on this. I'm, I'm bad at it. I've got a couple of them, but they're like, I want to say they're like 10 inch, 12 inch barrels on the Thompsons.

• 2:00:00Speaker 02

  Was that World War I or II?

• 2:00:02Speaker 03

  World War II. So it was a 1928 Thompson, I think. Um, it was middle of honor. But yeah, those were, uh, yeah, they were largely used in World War II. This would have been beforehand. So like.

• 2:00:12The Fat Electrician?

  It'd be wild if they found out the government was lacing drugs with fentanyl. I mean, it's the same concept.

• 2:00:18Speaker 03

  Well, well, now it's not necessarily, well, I mean, I'm not, look, if you think the government wouldn't, they would, uh, but it, a lot of it's China now. A lot of a fentanyl, uh, the fentanyl coming into the United States is from China.

• 2:00:30Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:00:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  It's coming across the Mexican border, not so much now, not as much now, but it's, it's a lot of its origins are from China.

• 2:00:40Speaker 02

  So interesting how organized crime works, like how much like moving pieces there have to be like without people figuring it out. Or maybe do they know? Yeah, maybe that's not the right.

• 2:00:48Speaker 06

  Did you get to see how it's wild if you read on organized crime and then the different syndicates and then how do they expand? And then the shipments of illegal drugs and the trades they have to buy out very specifically to not get in trouble.

• 2:01:03Speaker 03

  Well, so now like a lot of what the cartels are doing, they're, they're going two different directions now because the, the drug trade is becoming more and more like unprofitable. I suppose on like a broader scale compared to other things. So what they're, they're shifting to now is legitimate businesses. They're, they're actually, they're doing a lot of like farming and agriculture. They're still running.

• 2:01:19Speaker 01

  I was gonna say avocados.

• 2:01:20Speaker 02

  Avocados.

• 2:01:21Speaker 03

  They're probably not.

• 2:01:21Speaker 01

  Avocados.

• 2:01:22Speaker 02

  Stores or what?

• 2:01:23Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, well, this man's a man.

• 2:01:25Speaker 01

  This man.

• 2:01:26Speaker 03

  Expert on that. But what? He literally did a video on the mattress store thing.

• 2:01:30Speaker 01

  Oh, I have theories.

• 2:01:33Speaker 03

  But they're also, they're moving to things that specifically, specifically things that are facing my district is things like oil field theft or like oil theft. Where they're, they're just stealing oil directly.

• 2:01:44Speaker 02

  I bought a piece of land and it had oil on it.

• 2:01:48Speaker 03

  It was the way to make money back in the day.

• 2:01:49Speaker 06

  Really good way to make money.

• 2:01:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:52Speaker 06

  I wish too. I had the exact same problem.

• 2:01:55Speaker 03

  You've seen James Dean, uh, Giant, I think was the movie that was, yeah.

• 2:02:00Speaker 03

  Just like the, you know, the, the roughneck that just happens across a plot of land that is full of oil and becomes a billionaire.

• 2:02:06Speaker 06

  No, have anyone seen that here?

• 2:02:08Speaker 01

  James Dean.

• 2:02:10Speaker 06

  Brandon's like, I've never seen Doc Mart or Lord of the Rings. You guys, you know, everyone's seen.

• 2:02:14Speaker 03

  The motherfucker was an icon of early Hollywood. He only had three movies. I think it was Rebel Without a Cause, East of Eden and Giant.

• 2:02:22Speaker 01

  Breakfast Sausage Guy?

• 2:02:23Speaker 02

  Lamonge, right?

• 2:02:24Speaker 01

  Movie had been like 1958, right? James Dean?

• 2:02:26Speaker 03

  I think he was dead by then. I don't, I think it was 53, 54, something like that.

• 2:02:32Speaker 01

  The Breakfast Sausage Guy?

• 2:02:34Speaker 03

  Jimmy Dean.

• 2:02:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:02:36Speaker 06

  I didn't realize you, he only did three movies. That is one thing I did not know.

• 2:02:41Speaker 03

  I don't know how.

• 2:02:43Speaker 06

  I know he loved cars and he died in the car.

• 2:02:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, he died in that car that Goldberg has.

• 2:02:47Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:02:48Speaker 01

  Goldberg, we were, we were in his garage.

• 2:02:50Speaker 03

  He has one of those?

• 2:02:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, the, the, the car that James Dean died in Goldberg said, this is the one that he died in.

• 2:02:55Speaker 03

  No, he doesn't have the actual car.

• 2:02:57Speaker 01

  Not the actual car.

• 2:02:58Speaker 06

  Oh, I was gonna say.

• 2:02:59Speaker 01

  He had one.

• 2:02:59Speaker 06

  He has the replica. Does he have a 550 spider?

• 2:03:03Speaker 01

  Yes, it was the, that one. That was in, that was in Goldberg.

• 2:03:06Speaker 03

  Having that, I don't know why.

• 2:03:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, he had the spider. It was, it was.

• 2:03:09Speaker 03

  Like a Porsche 550 spider.

• 2:03:10Speaker 01

  Yes, he had the, the Hellcat. He had the Hellcats and the demons on that, that one area. And right across from it, he had a, he had that spider sitting right there. And he specifically said, this is the one that James Dean died in, not.

• 2:03:24Speaker 03

  Son of a bitch, that was not the car.

• 2:03:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:03:25Speaker 03

  Cause I don't think anybody knows where that car ended up.

• 2:03:28Speaker 01

  But he has one of the exact cars that James Dean died in and John sat in it and we took a video with John in it.

• 2:03:34Speaker 03

  Well, that's good luck.

• 2:03:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, it, because he was talking about how much it gets off, um, the torque of it. He says it will come off the front wheels.

• 2:03:46Speaker 03

  Bill, uh, we need you to settle something for us. Uh, we need to know. We need to see the bastard.

• 2:03:51Speaker 01

  He's got it. It's in front of the fucking Hellcats right there.

• 2:03:54Speaker 06

  I mean, I think for.

• 2:03:58Speaker 06

  Dude, if Bill owns one of the OG ones, that's insane, cause.

• 2:04:01Speaker 01

  Bro, Bill's got one of the OG ones. I'm pretty sure Bill beat the fuck out of me if I'm misremembering what the story you told me.

• 2:04:07Speaker 06

  It's looking like Bill owns an original 1955 spider, which is absolutely insane.

• 2:04:14Speaker 02

  Car?

• 2:04:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, John sat in it and John was like, this is a tiny car.

• 2:04:22Speaker 06

  Holy shit.

• 2:04:23Speaker 01

  Or, you know, I'm retarded and I'm, I don't know what I'm talking about.

• 2:04:26Speaker 03

  Are you talking about this one?

• 2:04:28Speaker 01

  No, it's, it's directly in front of that one. It's sitting right here.

• 2:04:32Speaker 03

  If he were.

• 2:04:32Speaker 01

  That car.

• 2:04:35Speaker 02

  I, I'm trying to find it.

• 2:04:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:37Speaker 02

  Is it Goldberg?

• 2:04:38Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:04:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. Fuck. It's right there. On the picture you're showing me, it's right there.

• 2:04:44Speaker 01

  He said, this was the car that James Dean himself in. I have one of the original.

• 2:04:48Speaker 03

  Himself, but.

• 2:04:49Speaker 01

  Well, not the car, but.

• 2:04:51Speaker 03

  Well, no, no, I mean, I'm saying he didn't kill it. He died in the car.

• 2:04:53Speaker 01

  I'm gonna leave this podcast.

• 2:04:54The Fat Electrician?

  You think Jesus was born during, during Toyota-thon on purpose?

• 2:04:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:00Speaker 02

  After much studying.

• 2:05:03Speaker 03

  Do you want to just call Bill?

• 2:05:06Speaker 01

  I'm trying to segue him back in.

• 2:05:09Speaker 03

  Now, now I really need to know.

• 2:05:13Speaker 01

  I'm trying.

• 2:05:15Speaker 03

  This is one of my favorite things about this podcast. Cody's about to legitimately just call Bill Goldberg.

• 2:05:22Speaker 06

  Toyota-thon, Spike, it's yours. What do you want to do with that ball?

• 2:05:27Speaker 02

  I'm enjoying playing with a Sharpie.

• 2:05:30Speaker 01

  Come on, I overhanded it at the T for you. Hit it.

• 2:05:36Speaker 06

  Is Bill gonna answer?

• 2:05:38Speaker 01

  Do you know wrestling? God, you're so young. You might not.

• 2:05:40Speaker 02

  I remember watching The Undertaker.

• 2:05:43Speaker 06

  So Undertaker is one, he hangs out too.

• 2:05:45Speaker 01

  He's probably doing.

• 2:05:45Speaker 06

  You know Goldberg, Bill, Bill Goldberg?

• 2:05:47Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:05:48The Fat Electrician?

  You don't know who Goldberg is?

• 2:05:49Speaker 03

  Pick up Bill, we're arguing about your cars.

• 2:05:52Speaker 02

  Well, Edge.

• 2:05:53Speaker 01

  They didn't know who Goldberg was either.

• 2:05:56Speaker 03

  No, we didn't.

• 2:05:57Speaker 06

  Goldberg's like one of the like, like fucking.

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  Oh, Logan Paul.

• 2:06:03The Fat Electrician?

  I did. Should we do the, should we do the offenders?

• 2:06:07Speaker 06

  Oh, yes, the offenders all.

• 2:06:09The Fat Electrician?

  Do you know about the offenders?

• 2:06:10Speaker 02

  Oh, Lord.

• 2:06:11The Fat Electrician?

  Oh, okay. So we have a, we have a superhero group. Think of like the Avengers, but the offenders. Um, so the way this works is you get to pick your superpower, but every superpower has a bad offset and we get to pick the offset. So for example, Cody can fly.

• 2:06:24Speaker 01

  Cody, why can't you fly? I can only fly when I'm shouting racial slurs.

• 2:06:30Speaker 03

  So Nick, what's yours?

• 2:06:31The Fat Electrician?

  I'm, I'm post nut clarity man. So I'm like, uh, I'm like Professor Xavier, but only for like 30 to 45 seconds after I come.

• 2:06:40Speaker 06

  I can run.

• 2:06:41Speaker 02

  What's the drawback?

• 2:06:42The Fat Electrician?

  Huh?

• 2:06:43Speaker 02

  What's the drawback?

• 2:06:44The Fat Electrician?

  I gotta, I gotta bring my wife with me everywhere.

• 2:06:46Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:06:50Speaker 06

  I again travel at the speed of light and then, uh, I cannot interact with anything for five minutes. So I had to just take notes of.

• 2:07:00Speaker 03

  To save, to use the crime.

• 2:07:03Speaker 03

  Something, something that was pointed out to me recently, I didn't remember. Damn, Dan Cummings or damn Dan, uh, Cummins. His, uh, his, uh, power and offset on the offenders, cause I forgot that. I don't think I was on that podcast. Maybe I was, I forget. It's a long time ago. Uh, his power was, uh, he gets to shoot lasers out of his dick. But his offset is he has to feel it the whole time.

• 2:07:27Speaker 03

  Like God, that was such a good offset.

• 2:07:31Speaker 06

  So what kind of superpower you want?

• 2:07:37Speaker 02

  Um, gosh, where, I gosh.

• 2:07:41Speaker 06

  What if you choose walking on water?

• 2:07:45Speaker 02

  Maybe, um, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.

• 2:07:51Speaker 02

  Oh gosh, uh. I mean, this might be a basic one, but I, I do think it would be really fun, but being invisible.

• 2:08:01Speaker 03

  Uh, who has that? Is it Rich?

• 2:08:02Speaker 02

  If someone else has it, I can think of another one.

• 2:08:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, Rich, but he has to masturbate.

• 2:08:06The Fat Electrician?

  The entire time.

• 2:08:07Speaker 06

  Invisible.

• 2:08:08Speaker 02

  Okay. Yeah. So probably not that one.

• 2:08:10Speaker 06

  So he can.

• 2:08:10Speaker 01

  Trust me, we got good offsets on any of this.

• 2:08:13The Fat Electrician?

  Whatever he says next, we're just doing. I don't care if he has a power or not.

• 2:08:15Speaker 03

  I, I'll give an example real quick. Uh, when I was out in West Texas, there was a security guard at one of the facilities we were at, uh, just on campaign stuff. And he was like, by the way, big fan of the podcast. Um, can I join the offenders? I'm like, fuck it. What do you got? He's like, we're out in the middle of the desert. It's a hundred and 10 degrees, West Texas. And he's like, I want to make it snow whenever I want. Like, cool. Offset, you live in Northern Canada.

• 2:08:45Speaker 06

  I was gonna say the temperature can't change.

• 2:08:47Speaker 03

  No, it's just raining.

• 2:08:49Speaker 06

  Oh, this sucks.

• 2:08:52Speaker 03

  But I was like, we're driving away. He's just like, but it already snows up there. I'm like, that's the point asshole.

• 2:09:03Speaker 06

  I tried to warn you on unsub. I said, I was like.

• 2:09:07Speaker 02

  My superpower is at any point I can just summon a pirate ship out of nowhere.

• 2:09:13The Fat Electrician?

  It's fine. The Pope has to sign off on it.

• 2:09:17Speaker 03

  Doubly funny as a Protestant. It's a doubly funny as a Protestant.

• 2:09:22Speaker 02

  I do not report to the Pope.

• 2:09:24Speaker 06

  I was gonna say he has no.

• 2:09:24Speaker 03

  You do now.

• 2:09:29Speaker 06

  I was gonna say he has no control where it teleports. So it just appears and drops.

• 2:09:34Speaker 02

  That's what it is. At any point I can just, anywhere in the world, I could just summon it and it's random where, where.

• 2:09:39Speaker 06

  No, I want it around you. So if you try to save people, you can do the exact opposite.

• 2:09:44Speaker 03

  It can only teleport to places that don't have water.

• 2:09:48Speaker 03

  You just drop a pirate ship.

• 2:09:51The Fat Electrician?

  Honestly, still a pretty good power.

• 2:09:53Speaker 06

  I guess.

• 2:09:54Speaker 03

  I cast pirate ship.

• 2:09:59Speaker 02

  I think it's pretty good. I, I'm content with that.

• 2:10:02Speaker 01

  This man just worked for the Coast Guard for the rest of his life.

• 2:10:05Speaker 02

  And just, and just hope I get it on water.

• 2:10:08Speaker 03

  What, what? What was the catalyst for pirate ship?

• 2:10:11Speaker 02

  I don't know. It's my brain.

• 2:10:13Speaker 06

  He, he got nervous.

• 2:10:16Speaker 06

  I, I, I, I got nervous.

• 2:10:18Speaker 03

  I panicked.

• 2:10:19Speaker 02

  Exactly what happened was I thought about the scene in Pirates of the Caribbean two, when they're like fighting on top of that roller thing. And for whatever reason, that movie scene sticks in my mind. And then I thought pirate, and then I thought L L Puppet, and then I thought, all right, it's a pirate ship. That, that's, that's what went in my head.

• 2:10:34The Fat Electrician?

  What the fuck? What, what do you even name that superhero?

• 2:10:38Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 2:10:40The Fat Electrician?

  Pirate ship guy?

• 2:10:45Speaker 02

  Marvel's got some bad.

• 2:10:46Speaker 03

  You're a fucking used pirate ship salesman.

• 2:10:49Speaker 02

  Okay. To be fair, Marvel's not that much, very much that much creative.

• 2:10:52Speaker 06

  Pirate ship guy, they're robbing the store.

• 2:10:56Speaker 06

  Wow. I can eat shit.

• 2:10:59Speaker 03

  It's the guy from the back rooms.

• 2:11:01Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes. He's the pirate. That's, that guy.

• 2:11:04Speaker 03

  Captain, oh fuck. Well, if you're, you're trying to be a hero, it's Savvy Jones.

• 2:11:09Speaker 02

  Savvy Jones.

• 2:11:15Speaker 06

  Gee, Savvy Joneses.

• 2:11:19Speaker 03

  Well, you crushed half them.

• 2:11:20Speaker 02

  Like comes with a kraken on it or something. I don't know. Good Lord.

• 2:11:25Speaker 06

  Oh my God.

• 2:11:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, yep, that's about it.

• 2:11:29Speaker 06

  My man, where, where did the beautiful people on the internet find you? Before we go to the after show, we'll do like a 10 minute after show for everyone's out for that. Good.

• 2:11:38Speaker 03

  Should be fun.

• 2:11:38Speaker 06

  Hell yeah. Where'd the people find you on the internet?

• 2:11:41Speaker 02

  Uh, YouTube, Nils Glenn, uh, two N's, um, Instagram, also Nils Glenn, and that's about it.

• 2:11:48Speaker 03

  Well, thank you for coming on the podcast, man.

• 2:11:50Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

• 2:11:51Speaker 06

  Absolute pleasure. Like I, autism just tismed out right there. Super appreciative of that.

• 2:11:59Speaker 02

  Happy to give into that.

• 2:12:01Speaker 06

  Now I think every, all of us had a good time. Like I learned a shit ton that I did not know. That's what I find the most interesting part of it. So thank you, brother. Truly, truly appreciate it.

• 2:12:10Speaker 03

  And knowing is half the battle.

• 2:12:13Speaker 06

  Ding. Cody, close us out.

• 2:12:15Speaker 01

  Thank you for joining the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, the fat electrician, Nils, Brandon Arer, myself, Don Operator. Thank you so much. Please join us on the unsubscribe after show on Patreon. Say bye.