Algospeak

Adam Aleksic's Roman Empire is language, particularly how algorithms are changing the way we all use words. This week, Endless Thread gets algospeak-pilled and learns how "unalive" spread from a kids' Spider-Man cartoon to TikTok mental health communities trying to avoid censorship; what we're really saying when we say we're "goblin-core," and whether this all means we're "cooked." Show notes: Algospeak: How Social Media Is Transforming the Future of Language https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/776856/algospeak-by-adam-aleksic/ This episode was produced by Grace Tatter, edited by Meg Cramer, and co-hosted by Ben Brock Johnson and Amory Sivertson. Mix and sound design by Paul Vaitkus.

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• 2:08Ben Brock Johnson?

  Heads up, this episode is about language, but it makes references to suicide. You can call or text 988 if you ever need to talk to someone. Okay, here's the show.

• 2:21Speaker 05

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• 2:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, Emery, I'm gonna tell you a story that was told to me by Adam Alexic. He's kind of a pop etymologist, maybe we could say. And he's known on TikTok as Etymology Nerd.

• 2:42Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 2:43Ben Brock Johnson?

  The story is about how the word unalive came alive.

• 2:52Speaker 06

  It starts in a meme on Reddit in 2013 that was based on an episode of The Ultimate Spider-Man.

• 3:02Speaker 07

  We go into that compound, find Agent McGuffin, snag the list, then unalive Taskmaster and his acolytes. Capisce? Wait, unalive them? Yeah.

• 3:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  At some point, unalive jumps from this kid's TV show to a kid's video game.

• 3:18Speaker 06

  It gets repurposed into a Roblox meme in 2017 where the Roblox character says, "Go commit unalive."

• 3:28Amory Sivertson?

  So people are using this synonymously for kill?

• 3:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yes, but then unalive starts to go through this interesting evolution from a random joke and meme to something a little more serious, which happens when it jumps from the popular gaming platform, Roblox, to the popular attention-grabbing platform, TikTok, in a very specific area of TikTok.

• 3:53Speaker 06

  It gets popularized in the mental health space on TikTok because they need a way to communicate.

• 3:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  The mental health community needs to talk about suicide, but there's this problem. You pretty much can't say "suicide" on TikTok, no matter what the context is. While TikTok's community standards are technically against glorifying suicide, moderators might flag your video even if you're just talking about it for the sake of education or prevention.

• 4:21Speaker 06

  And so the the mental health community, looking for a way to discuss the concept of suicide in a way that's not going to be censored by the algorithm, they turn to a trending meme, and that meme gets amplified even further.

• 4:32Amory Sivertson?

  So people on TikTok are saying unalive all the time.

• 4:37Ben Brock Johnson?

  Right, and then it leaps off of TikTok and into the real world.

• 4:42Speaker 06

  So on the 30th anniversary of Kurt Cobain's suicide, they put up, the Seattle Museum of Pop Culture put up a placard saying that Kurt Cobain unalived himself.

• 4:50Amory Sivertson?

  Hmm, and I'm guessing this did not go over very well with... Kurt Cobain Nirvana fans.

• 4:57Ben Brock Johnson?

  Did they love it? No, they did not love it. A lot of people were upset. They thought Unalived sounded flippant, when actually, the curator who designed the exhibit thought it was a sign of respect to avoid triggering people who have lost loved ones to suicide. But this is how language works now, right? Phrases are forged online, and then we find ourselves using them with our friends and family, at work.

• 5:22Amory Sivertson?

  On museum placards.

• 5:23Ben Brock Johnson?

  We're talking about algo speak.

• 5:26Speaker 08

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• 5:32Speaker 09

  My Roman Empire is this scene from The Vampire Diaries.

• 5:35Speaker 10

  Oh, do these pit vipers make me look Sigma? And their brother's like, yeah, he's so Sigma.

• 5:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  Simply put, words and phrases that we are using in our daily lives because of algorithms.

• 5:46Speaker 11

  This is my meal. I call this girl dinner.

• 5:49Ben Brock Johnson?

  We are so genuinely cooked, and I think people are starting to realize. And Adam has written a whole book about this called, wait for it, algo speak. And he is the perfect person to explain this, not only because he loves words, but also because he spent a lot of time figuring out how to use language to make the TikTok algorithm work for him.

• 6:14Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm Ben 6'7, health fix, makeup tutorial Johnson.

• 6:22Amory Sivertson?

  I'm Amory, plant-based Silverton.

• 6:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  Nice. And this is Endless Thread from WBUR in Boston.

• 6:29Amory Sivertson?

  Today's episode, algo speak.

• 6:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  Amory, I don't know if you know this about me, but I'm kind of an etymology, maybe not a nerd, but like, I'm etymology curious. I'm etymological. I love etymology. I'm like, super interested in it.

• 6:53Amory Sivertson?

  Thank you for sharing that, Ben. Thank you for opening up to me in this way.

• 6:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  So I started my conversation with Adam by telling him about something I had been chewing on. I was thinking about a very specific example of this recently and I can now I'm of course, oh, I know what it was, Oxford.

• 7:13Speaker 06

  Like a place where oxes cross.

• 7:16Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, for some reason, like I, that was a thing that I thought about and I get that it's obvious, but like for me.

• 7:24Speaker 06

  No, no, a lot of these seem obvious, but they're staring you in the face, but you don't notice those are, I didn't think about Oxford either until you just said it.

• 7:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's, that's totally right. Like, I feel like they are always staring us in the face and yet we don't think about them. We just sort of like accept them as like names. And then maybe later we're like, wait, what does this mean? And it's like you said, sometimes it's staring us right in the face.

• 7:47Speaker 06

  And sometimes it's hidden, like the word Cambridge isn't actually a bridge over the River Cam. I mean, the River Cam is currently there, but it was, when it was named, it was a bridge over the River Granta. And then British pronunciations mangled that over time to Cam somehow. You know how British accents work? And then they eventually renamed the river to Camp as like a back formation.

• 8:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  Wow, wow.

• 8:15Ben Brock Johnson?

  Adam got the etymology bug way back when he was in high school. First, he read every book he could get his hands on about etymology. And then he wanted to share what he was learning. So he started a blog called Etymology Nerd. And then he found a place where he could talk to other etymology nerds. So boy, can you guess where? Uh, he went to Reddit. You dang right. He went to Reddit where nerds can yell at each other about all sorts of topics. And this is where he discovered that not only did he like the history of words, he also liked getting a ton of upvotes. Gotta love those internet points, baby.

• 8:52Speaker 06

  Kind of a fun little game for me in high school was like, oh, how can I go viral with this? And it's like, it comes down to like phrasing, it comes down to content choice. But there's, you know, certain things that compel people more than other things.

• 9:04Ben Brock Johnson?

  Can you give us an example of a Reddit post and what you did with language to capture attention?

• 9:12Speaker 06

  Well, there's something called a curiosity gap, which is the gap between what you know and what you would like to know. And a good viral headline, especially on Reddit, taps into the curiosity gap. And it can be something simple, something obvious, like. I made an infographic on how hip hop bands got their names. I might post that and that got like 30,000 upvotes when I posted it years ago. And that, you know, you know what hip hop bands are, but you don't know where they got their names from. And that's the curiosity gap.

• 9:42Ben Brock Johnson?

  Adam learned other tricks, too. For instance, using first person I statements gets more upvotes. So does using words that reference or inspire an emotion. So in some ways Reddit was Adam's introduction to algo speak. This idea that you adjust your language based on social media algorithms. And Adam was about to encounter a new algorithm because after high school, he left his Reddit ambitions behind, in part because he started posting on TikTok.

• 10:15Speaker 06

  You know how everybody in your friend group starts speaking the same after a while?

• 10:18Ben Brock Johnson?

  If you've encountered Adam, it's probably here on your TikTok for you page.

• 10:22Speaker 06

  Does anyone else find it a little alarming how many phrases emerged from Americans mocking other languages? You know how some people are definitely first name, last name people? Like you would never refer to them by just their first name.

• 10:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  As of recording, Adam has more than 800,000 followers. He has several videos with nearly 5 million views. He identifies as an educational influencer, which doesn't mean he's selling stuff. Instead, it means he's making a career teaching people about words on social media. From his days as a power redditor, Adam knew that saying something interesting wasn't enough to attract attention on its own. How you say it is almost as important. And TikTok requires different tricks than Reddit, like what he calls the influencer accent.

• 11:10Speaker 06

  I will very intentionally employ what I call an educational influencer accent. I'll stress more words to keep you engaged. I'll use uptalk that keeps you hanging on the end of my sentences. I'll use like exaggerated sensational language. I can't be the only person who thinks it's insane that we're already collectively forgetting where the word podcast comes from. I'll use slang words that I know are better at capturing attention. And in doing so. Academia is literally so cooked right now. I make myself a vector for spreading these words.

• 11:44Amory Sivertson?

  So he's constantly learning about etymology and language. And then he takes what he learns to juice the algorithm.

• 11:51Ben Brock Johnson?

  And you might be thinking, okay, of course, the algorithm is changing how Adam talks in TikTok videos. But most of us aren't influencers. So how does this end up changing how the rest of us talk? Adam calls this the engagement treadmill.

• 12:06Speaker 06

  Influencers see what's trending and we try to hijack those trends by making content revolving around that trend.

• 12:13Ben Brock Johnson?

  So if the word gyat is trending, an influencer will make content using that word to increase the likelihood that their content will trend.

• 12:23Speaker 06

  And then it actually becomes more of a trend because now more people are consuming it. And, and that means it, the algorithm pushes it more, which means more influencers are using it. And when we have words like gyat or riz, which are like these new like quote unquote brain rock words, I think that happens because they, you know, they start out as like a minor phenomenon and then they get like blown out of proportion by influencers, but they become more salient in our culture as a result.

• 12:48Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, so influencers pick up on words that are trending and they use them to drive engagement and then more people hear those trending words and then more people use them.

• 13:00Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah. And all of a sudden, everyone and their dad knows what riz means. Slang has always worked like this, but now it happens at breakneck speed.

• 13:11Speaker 06

  Let's say a post gets 20% more likes than another post. That first post isn't going to be pushed 20% more. It's going to be pushed over 100% more than the other post, uh, simply because the algorithm picks up on small differences. And over time, these small differences really snowball into, and that's how posts go viral, that these small differences build up. And so the question is then, what are these small differences? How do you get that 20% extra engagement? And usually that's through language choice. That's through playing into these algorithmic incentives, right? The word riz got really popular in like a year. It would have taken maybe a decade for it to catch on in the nineties or something. That, that just, algorithms take these things that are innate trends.

• 13:53Speaker 06

  Influencers are amplifying these algorithmic words and then also turning them into more of an algorithmic trend that the algorithm then amplifies, the influencers then amplifies. So I do think. Even though the mechanisms of language change are not any different than they've ever been. I do think it's happening faster. I think it's happening more intensely. I think we probably perceive more slang words than we've perceived in the past.

• 14:16Amory Sivertson?

  Whoa. I mean, this is, this is both a beautiful idea to me in that we can share information and language and new ways of talking with each other very, very, very fast. And also, it's like we're talking in a new way before we even realize that we're talking in a new way. There's no time for us to be intentional about our language, it feels like. Or maybe I'm just very, very old, which is also possible.

• 14:43Ben Brock Johnson?

  I feel the same way as you. And also, I recognize that it feels like such a very old statement.

• 14:49Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, I guess I'm annoyed when I hear myself using something that I've heard on the internet, which doesn't happen all that often, but it does happen.

• 14:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  The other day, when you, you were like, you said to me, "All that jazz," I think you said.

• 15:07Amory Sivertson?

  Yep, and like.

• 15:08Ben Brock Johnson?

  You were like, "Oh, those hep cats with all that jazz."

• 15:11Amory Sivertson?

  I finally caught up to 1923. Yeah.

• 15:19Amory Sivertson?

  No, it just feels like I've been incepted. I guess that's what it is. It feels like, "Oh, no, I don't, why did I just say that?"

• 15:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  You didn't give consent.

• 15:27Amory Sivertson?

  Right. How dare those words come out of my mouth.

• 15:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  Now, Adam has a ton of examples of words that have slipped into our everyday lexicon because of the internet, new versions of these things that we are talking about. And we're going to dig into a couple of those words. Here's something from before the internet. After these messages, we'll be right back.

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• 17:22Ben Brock Johnson?

  So one kind of fascinating thing about Alga speak is that words begin online in small, specific communities. And it doesn't take much for one of those words to slip out into the mainstream and become very popular, totally separate even from its original use or meaning. Let's talk about expilled or like study-pilled, New York-pilled, et cetera, et cetera. When did you first come across this terminology?

• 17:49Speaker 06

  On Reddit in about 2019, it wasn't very broad at the time, but then it really got popularized on TikTok, like around 2022 or so.

• 18:00Ben Brock Johnson?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:01Speaker 06

  You got to start with the Matrix, which had the idea of presenting a red pill and a blue pill.

• 18:05Ben Brock Johnson?

  Of course.

• 18:05Speaker 06

  That kind of applied to politics. You could say you're red-pilled or blue-pilled, but the word wouldn't have had larger impact if it wasn't for the incel community online, which started gathering on 4chan and then moved to other forums and had some impact on Reddit as well. But they had the term "blackpilled," which means "accepting incel ideology," and they were the ones that really kickstarted the trend of turning "pilled" into this productive suffix that can just be thrown onto anything. And so like, I don't know, now if I really discover I like eating burritos, I can say "I'm burrito-pilled" or something like that. So you can just attach it nonsensically to any word. And it's kind of funny, and these words spread because they're funny.

• 18:42Ben Brock Johnson?

  How should we navigate the kind of ethical implications of popularizing terms that arise in the dark, terrible corners of 4chan, we could say? How do you think of that as a kind of linguistic influencer?

• 18:58Speaker 06

  You talk to the middle schoolers, and they don't actually know where any of these words come from. So like, they use words like "sigma" and "chad," and sometimes they'll use like "pilled" or "maxing."

• 19:07Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 19:08Speaker 06

  They don't know where it comes from. They just think it's a funny internet way of speaking, and I'm not at all concerned. I mean, at the same time, I advocate for etymology because I think it does tell you something about that social pattern. Like, maybe now that you know it comes from incels, maybe you can make your own choices about using those words. I'm still gonna use them sometimes when they're kind of funny, but I'll use them strategically. There's other words also that come from African-American English, and it's important to know like, oh, when this word is like, it moves into the broader community, it actually loses some of its rhetorical power in the original community. And do I want to be using this word? I don't know. But like, there's also context being lost when other words are drifting across these social boundaries as well.

• 19:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, pop quiz, Emery. Can you use "pilled" in a sentence?

• 19:50Amory Sivertson?

  Um, I'd say I'm oatmeal-pilled.

• 19:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oatmeal-pilled, okay. All right.

• 19:58Amory Sivertson?

  Every day. Every day I'm popping that oatmeal.

• 20:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  That oatmeal has that riz. You know what I mean? You saw that oatmeal and you were like, "Gyah!" Right? Okay.

• 20:12Amory Sivertson?

  No, I can't endorse this.

• 20:18Ben Brock Johnson?

  Another example, also a suffix that shows how algo speak is shaping our understanding of ourselves. Can we talk about core?

• 20:27Speaker 06

  Well, it started with the word hardcore in the 1970s to describe a music music genre. And then there was there's like emo core and speedcore and some other music genres. Tumblr was the one that really began turning core into like aesthetics, like cottage core and goblin core to describe like ways of dressing like you're living a bucolic lifestyle or

• 20:46Ben Brock Johnson?

  Love me some goblin core. Big fan of goblin core.

• 20:50Speaker 06

  I'm kind of a goblin core fan myself. But those words are kind of circulating. And this is a common pattern that a word will be circulating a little bit. And then the algorithm is going to blow it way out of proportion. So it was like just kind of in the niche Tumblr communities. Once it hit TikTok, these cores became like huge aesthetics. There were so many cores that they ended up making a parody aesthetic called core core, just like as a joke of all the cores that were showing up. So when the word cottage core is used in a video by an influencer, it doesn't matter whether it's in a hashtags, the computer knows if you like say it, or if it's in the subtitles or anything, or if people in the comments are saying it. So all these things factor in. And then the algorithm categorizes that it knows this is a cottage core video and it sends it out to people who it thinks should get cottage core videos. And now there's

• 21:35Speaker 06

  way more people buying cottage core clothing because that word was popularized on TikTok. And I think it's actually quite intentional. If you look at the TikTok business platform landing page from 2021, it says subcultures are the new demographics. And then it gives businesses ideas for how to profit off the cottage core aesthetic. So it's acknowledging that these words are metadata we're using to like target users as consumers. And that the word demographic is fascinating to me because what's the word demographic, right? A demographic in the past is like race, gender. Now it's also whether you're cottage core or goblin core. All of that is now part of how the algorithm categorizes you as a person.

• 22:16Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, so Amory, if we're using words that we might not use or know about before the algorithm started manipulating the spread of culture and in using those words, we've made our identities and interests easier to monetize and we often don't even understand where these words come from, do you think we're cooked?

• 22:37Amory Sivertson?

  Cooked is like, we're done for, right?

• 22:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 22:41Amory Sivertson?

  Like, we've reached max whatever.

• 22:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 22:45Amory Sivertson?

  I don't think we're irreversibly cooked. I mean, I can appreciate the sense of connection that comes with having a shared language and these sort of like inside joke-esque internet speak. And yet, I'll also say, like, my favorite people to be around are the ones who say things that make me go, where did that come from? What is going on inside of your brain? And so I guess I would just hope that we all are able to better identify where our language is coming from and to pick and choose what is coming from the internet that actually fits into my existing personality and sense of humor?

• 23:27Amory Sivertson?

  And where is the line between that and, oh, this algo speak and these sorts of internet-y jokes are now taking over my personality and my sense of humor? You know? So I guess I'm just, I'm pro weird, singular contributions to the culture that I think only come from actually stepping away from the algorithm, putting down your phone and just being a weird person in the world.

• 23:55Ben Brock Johnson?

  You know, it's tough for me to tell if we're cooked, Amory, because like, I feel like, on the one hand, I derive a lot of joy and feeling, feelings of belonging when I can effectively communicate with my peers. And there's like, an aspect of that that is, that is like, inclusive and there's an aspect of it that's exclusive, right? Like, some of the language we use is designed to, like, show that we're on the same team.

• 24:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  And in, in the process of showing that we're on the same team, we're also showing which teams we are not on.

• 24:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  And I do like being able to relate to people through the use of words. And I don't just mean like effectively communicating, but like using specific words that like show that we're on the same team. Here's an example that I think is maybe a good example, and I admit that it may feel performative. But like, I have stopped referring to my wife as my wife. I refer to her as my partner. Okay. And that to me feels like a way of showing to people who are not straight, white cis men that like I see them.

• 25:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  And I respect that like, I feel like sometimes wife is used in a negative kind, in a negative way, like, oh, the wife's give, she's giving me a hard time, the wife. And I feel like partner is can be a much, a very positive sounding word because it's like, hey, we're in a partnership and partnership suggests like equal footing and like equal agency. So I like that. Yeah. But, but, you know, I also recognize that a lot of this stuff is like nonsense and maybe even that is nonsense. And I don't know, um, I don't know how to move through a world where this stuff happens so quickly that by the time I try to use the words that everybody's using, all of a sudden it's too late and it's passed me by.

• 26:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  All right. So I did ask Adam about whether or not he could answer the big question here. So are we cooked or are we not cooked?

• 26:24Speaker 06

  No, I don't think we're cooked. I like to be tapped into the pulse whenever I have a chance to talk to middle schoolers or middle school teachers. I really like that chance because that's, that's where the pulse actually is. These kids are just using slang words to relate to each other. They're using it in the way that I remember using the words yeet and like bay and whatever back in my middle school days. And that's, I don't think I'm cooked. I don't think these kids are necessarily cooked. I, they don't know that these words come from insult culture. They don't, you don't know any of that. They're just using language as a point of connection between each other. I think we're, we're gonna be completely fine.

• 27:18Ben Brock Johnson?

  Endless Thread is a production of WBUR in Boston. This episode was produced by Grace Tatter, hosted by me, Ben Brock Johnson.

• 27:25Amory Sivertson?

  And me, Amory Sivertson. It was edited by Meg Cramer, mix and sound design by Paul Vikes, our production manager.

• 27:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  The rest of our team is Dean Russell, Franny Monahan, Emily Jankowski, and our managing producer, Sumit Joshi.

• 27:39Amory Sivertson?

  Endless Thread is a show about the blurred lines between cottage core and goblin core. And let's just keep blurring those lines, okay? I'd like to see.

• 27:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  I thought you were gonna say between cottage core and cottage cheese.

• 27:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  This is a different, that's just a different, I don't know what that means. If you have an untold history, an unsolved mystery, another story from the internet that you want us to tell in plain English or algo speak, hit us up, [email protected]. Bye.

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  I am absolutely in favor of AI in learning in the right context.

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