Kylie on Must-Have Philly Food, Off-Limits Jokes & Dating Your Spouse with LeeAnn Kreischer | Ep. 18

Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Lovevery! She may currently be on maternity leave, but Kylie couldn’t leave the Real Ones hanging, so she taped a special episode for you to enjoy while she’s navigating the early days of being a mother of four… which very likely includes lots of outfit changes and very little sleep (1:02). Kylie kicks off the episode by answering a few questions in her “Ask Me *Some* Things” segment because “Ask Me Anything” needed some boundaries. Kylie shares what it was really like interviewing former First Lady Michelle Obama (3:08) and also weighs in on whether or not she gets her older girls a gift when a new baby sister is born (5:40). After that, Kylie introduces the NGL-verse to quite possibly the most Philly food combination she knows of in Doomscroll of the Week (7:05). She also shares some of her and her sister’s weirdest eating habits and her favorite Philly delicacies apart from cheesesteaks (9:30). Then, Kylie is joined by COO, stand up comedy producer and fellow podcast host LeeAnn Kreischer to talk about their shared experience of having a famously shirtless husband (15:54). LeeAnn delves into how she feels about her husband Bert’s shirtless stand up specials and how she and Kylie would feel if their spouses ever got six pack abs. Since LeeAnn produced Bert Kreischer’s latest special “Lucky” (16:58) Kylie asks her how she feels about the southern accent Bert uses when he imitates her, if there’s ever been a joke LeeAnn asked him to cut and how their daughters feel about being the subject of his comedy (21:22). Also, Kylie asks LeeAnn about all her years as a Girl Scout Troop leader alongside her daughters and how that has not only helped their confidence but also hers as she steps into the role of COO of Berty Boy Productions (26:23). Lastly, Kylie asks LeeAnn to play a game of “Is It True?” where she asks her questions about her early relationship with Bert, including whether or not they met in a bowling alley, if he really made her a mixtape (35:15) and if it’s true that they always do a date night once a week (37:45). Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for more exclusive clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with LeeAnn! We’ll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. . . . Support the Show: Lovevery: NGL listeners can get an exclusive discount on their first subscription order by entering code KYLIE at checkout at https://lovevery.com/ Sign up for the 2 Bears 5k! https://register.2bears5k.com/event/2bears5k Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:55Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, in preparation for this episode, I was watching the new Burt Kreischer special, Lucky, on Netflix, and I had to finish watching it from the toilet, so I didn't pee my pants. And that is on laughing too hard and being 39 weeks pregnant.

• 1:17Kylie Kelce?

  Let's get this podcast started.

• 1:23Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie. Oh wait, I can't even say wave. I can't even fucking say wave. I can't even say wave. Wave. Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original brought to you by Love Every. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, Philly food scene hype woman, occasional clapbacker, and I've officially started maternity leave. If you watched last week's postpartum episode or doom scrolled your social media platform of choice, you're probably aware I had the baby. Speaking of, what do we end up naming her? Is she another clone of Jason? And how much did she weigh?

• 2:04Kylie Kelce?

  Because that could get dicey. I wonder if she dethroned Ellie?

• 2:10Kylie Kelce?

  I hope not. I feel like as a middle child, you should at least be able to be the biggest. Have something. I ask because in the spirit of complete honesty, as always, this intro I'm currently taping is pre-recorded. I'm actually 39 weeks pregnant at the time of this taping.

• 2:30Kylie Kelce?

  It's my belly. You can't even see it that way. Hold on microphone.

• 2:36Kylie Kelce?

  Do you see the, the turkey timer is out? You see that? That's your belly button when the, you know, when you're making a turkey on Thanksgiving and the little plastic timer pops up to say it's done?

• 2:51Kylie Kelce?

  So get the fuck out.

• 2:55Kylie Kelce?

  We're ready.

• 2:58Kylie Kelce?

  I think. But even though this is pre-recorded, I can tell you a few things about what my life is very likely looking like right now. Probably not sleeping that much.

• 3:10Kylie Kelce?

  Probably have to change my shirt a lot.

• 3:13Kylie Kelce?

  If you know, you know. Now, I might be on maternity leave, but I couldn't leave the real ones hanging. So we've got a great show for you guys. You can tell I'm still pregnant because trying to stand up to show you my belly got me out of breath.

• 3:27Kylie Kelce?

  Coming up on this special maternity leave episode, I doom scrolled my way to one of the most Philly food combinations I've ever laid my eyes on, and I've got some thoughts. Then you're gonna hear my conversation with a friend of mine and another woman I have no business speaking to, comedy producer, mother, and host of the hit podcast Wife of the Party, Leanne Kreischer. But before you hear that conversation, I figured I'd do a maternity leave addition

• 3:54Kylie Kelce?

  of Ask Me Some Things, because Ask Me Anything needed some boundaries.

• 4:01Kylie Kelce?

  Because you couldn't control yourselves. From Tristan on TikTok, Kylie, you got Michelle? How do you keep your cool? My jaw would be an anvil on the floor. First of all, Tristan, the editing team behind, not gonna lie, did me a solid.

• 4:20Kylie Kelce?

  I had to wipe my upper lip sweat multiple times. Multiple times, okay? A lot of fans were shocked that we got Michelle Obama. Girls, same.

• 4:35Kylie Kelce?

  Guys, I don't, I, I still can't wrap my head around it. The fact

• 4:43Kylie Kelce?

  I, I fear that you guys think that I'm kidding when I emphasize that I have no business speaking to the people that I get to speak to.

• 4:53Kylie Kelce?

  Sometimes I genuinely think I'm living in an alternate universe of like, is this, is this happening?

• 5:01Kylie Kelce?

  I was very nervous to speak to Mrs. Obama. I am so incredibly grateful that she was able to come on.

• 5:12Kylie Kelce?

  I absolutely love how excited people were in the comments on things because it validated how hype I was about getting that opportunity.

• 5:25Kylie Kelce?

  It's, it's so much fun to get to do things that are full circle. And it's so cool to get to speak to people that you never thought in your entire lifetime that you would get to speak to. And it just keeps happening. We just keep talking to people that I'm like, why?

• 5:48Kylie Kelce?

  I don't know why you agreed to this, but I am so happy you did.

• 5:55Kylie Kelce?

  So I just want to be clear.

• 5:58Kylie Kelce?

  I was not cool. I had full pit sweat like I usually do when I interview people. Because I like, what the fuck are we even doing? And but for Michelle, it hit a new level because for Mrs. Obama, I did. I was rocking upper lip sweat. So.

• 6:21Kylie Kelce?

  Cute. It's just, it's a cute little thing that happened.

• 6:29Kylie Kelce?

  Just me and my sweat stash. Uh, next from Raina on YouTube. How do you and people feel about siblings getting a little gift or something when a new baby comes into the family? Thoughts? I know that I shared a very strong opinion about birthday gifts and making sure that only the birthday person receives birthday gifts on that day. I stand by that, even though some of you strongly disagreed. That's okay. I can live with that. I do think that it's lovely to give siblings a gift when a new baby comes home.

• 7:12Kylie Kelce?

  I think because mom specifically is going to be so tied up. And I think that it's okay to help them feel special.

• 7:27Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, they are getting a sibling and yes, that is exciting, but everybody knows that for a four, a five, a four and a two-year-old.

• 7:38Kylie Kelce?

  What's a newborn baby doing?

• 7:42Kylie Kelce?

  Nothing. The answer is nothing. She will arrive, she will eat, she will poop, she will sleep, she will cry. That's it. I don't know. I feel like maybe something simple like new coloring books that they can do quietly at the table. Set yourself up for success with this gift. That does it for Ask Me Some Things. Next up, my TikTok algorithm just hit me with a ridiculous, but possibly the most Philly combination of foods I've seen in a while. Let's get into it in Doom Scroll of the Week. Queen Emma, can we show the real ones what I'm talking about?

• 8:16Speaker 03

  My man thinks this is weird.

• 8:19Speaker 03

  This is a water ice and this is a pretzel.

• 8:22Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, girls say less.

• 8:27Kylie Kelce?

  That is a Philadelphia version of french fries and a milkshake, and I stand by that. I can honestly say that I do not do the dipping.

• 8:38Kylie Kelce?

  But if you ask Big Ed McDevitt,

• 8:42Kylie Kelce?

  if you should have water ice with a soft pretzel, he will say every time, without fail.

• 8:50Kylie Kelce?

  He used to, if I'm not mistaken, Dad, don't quote me on this. He used to, when he was little, as like a little entrepreneur move,

• 9:02Kylie Kelce?

  he would go to his uncle's pretzel shop,

• 9:09Kylie Kelce?

  get pretzels in his wagon, go to the water ice store, get tubs of water ice, and then go down to the factories in Kensington and dish it up. But you're supposed to have soft pretzels

• 9:28Kylie Kelce?

  with water ice. Everybody knows that. Sweet and salty, guys. Sweet, sweet and salty is, that's what it is. This is, that's why this is the most Philly, because she just showed you the Philly version of french fries, milkshake.

• 9:43Kylie Kelce?

  I'm just letting you know. Queen Emma wants to know what the weirdest food combination I do is.

• 9:51Kylie Kelce?

  That's a great question.

• 9:54Kylie Kelce?

  I don't know that I have one.

• 9:59Kylie Kelce?

  I'm with, hold on, let me, this is gonna be one of those like, you're gonna put the clock on the screen.

• 10:06Kylie Kelce?

  I have to have something. I wish you would ask me what my sister's weird food combos are.

• 10:13Kylie Kelce?

  There was a period of time where my sister.

• 10:18Kylie Kelce?

  Emma just wrote into the rundown, what are your sister's weird food combos? Um, I've always been a very, I've always been a very standard food combination person. I would say maybe the weirdest one I do on a semi regular basis is apples and cheese.

• 10:36Kylie Kelce?

  But again, it's that sweet and salty. It's like your own cheese board.

• 10:42Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, my sister went through a phase where we thought she needed to be. This is so, Aubrey, I'm so sorry.

• 10:53Kylie Kelce?

  This is gonna, is this the episode where I out my sister? My sister likes to pretend like we're not related.

• 11:00Kylie Kelce?

  My sister likes to pretend like we're not related. Um, I think just so that she doesn't get dragged into getting asked for signed items from my husband, which like, dude, I get it. Uh, I do not blame you. Um, but my sister, she does, she went through a phase where my mom thought that she needed to be tested for vitamin deficiencies because of the weird shit she would eat. So her most common was that she would slice an avocado in half and put yellow mustard on it and eat it with a spoon.

• 11:42Kylie Kelce?

  The other one that I found just one step

• 11:48Kylie Kelce?

  too far was, uh, she would open up a can of red kidney beans, rinse them and then pour balsamic vinegar on them. And again, eat it with a spoon. So, um,

• 12:05Kylie Kelce?

  yeah, Ob is good for a, an odd combo. It was not me. Off of weird combinations, um, my favorite Philly specialty, aside from a cheesesteak, we will regularly still go to Stocks Bakery for pound cake.

• 12:26Kylie Kelce?

  If you don't know about stocks, you should.

• 12:30Kylie Kelce?

  It's a Phila- that that might be my favorite Philadelphia specialty. We also used to go to Swiaki's for kabassi. We should one day do a segment on

• 12:42Kylie Kelce?

  the pronunciation of Philadelphia things.

• 12:47Kylie Kelce?

  Because Swiaki's Polish meats is on

• 12:53Kylie Kelce?

  is on Salmon Street.

• 12:56Kylie Kelce?

  S A L M O N, as in the fish.

• 13:01Kylie Kelce?

  But it is Salmon Street. It is one of the biggest arguments of our marriage.

• 13:07Kylie Kelce?

  And when Jason didn't believe me that it's pronounced Salmon Street, there's a whole thing. Cheese steaks and the pronunciation of Philadelphia streets are two of the biggest arguments of, which is honestly not that, this is pretty, I feel pretty good about that. That's it for doom scroll of the week. Before we roll my conversation with Leanne Kreischer, it's a tradition as old as time on this show. The toss to the ad read number one. Ladies and gentlemen, Love Every. I'm very excited to introduce the real ones to a brand we've been fans of for a while now in our house. Love Every. We have been subscribed to their play kits since Wyatt was a baby.

• 13:51Kylie Kelce?

  And it was like a cheat code for what toys we should be having at certain developmental milestones. This is the type of box that really lights our fire. I've actually got one for Ellie's age range.

• 14:09Kylie Kelce?

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• 14:53Kylie Kelce?

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• 15:26Speaker 04

  Thank you. It's so nice to see you again.

• 15:29Kylie Kelce?

  I'm so happy to have you. I can't thank you enough for joining me today. I've had the absolute pleasure of running into you two years in a row now at the Super Bowl Party for the other podcast around here. It is a delight every single time. This time I was hiding in the back room. And I think I told you when I came out because someone came back and was like, oh, Leanne's here. And I was like, okay, I'll come out.

• 15:57Speaker 04

  Oh, that's so sweet.

• 15:59Kylie Kelce?

  Well, because I just, you know, pregnant, in heels, I was like, I'm doing too much.

• 16:05Speaker 04

  Yes, it was a lot. That's a big, it's a big fun parties. So I don't blame you, especially pregnant. I'd be like, I'll be on the stool in the corner.

• 16:13Kylie Kelce?

  Well, that's what I was doing. And then I was like, you know what, I always come out for that. And then I Irish goodbye the shit out of that place. I Irish goodbye so hard. Someone saw me go back and pick up my purse. And when I was walking out, I was like, you saw nothing. And they were like, I saw nothing. And I just kept walking.

• 16:31Speaker 04

  I think we were on our way to an Irish goodbye, but Bert caught Jason at the door. So we got to say goodbye to him on the way out.

• 16:38Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, well, you half asked your Irish goodbye.

• 16:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, we almost made it. I almost made it.

• 16:44Kylie Kelce?

  I mentioned in your intro, both of our husbands have been known to go shirtless.

• 16:50Speaker 04

  Once or twice.

• 16:51Kylie Kelce?

  Your husband Bert definitely started this trend a long time ago. And to be clear, Jason has given him credit to him. And then I think also on the podcast as well, because he's just, he wants to make it so clear that like, this is Bert's thing. I think he felt a little guilty after the Bills game when he was, went shirtless in the suite and then sort of people were making the comparison. Jason was like, no, no, I can't own this shtick. This is Bert's.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  What is it though, really? I think it's just every man in the South.

• 17:26Kylie Kelce?

  Is that what it is?

• 17:27Speaker 04

  Ah, yeah. I think you guys just aren't familiar with Southern folks so much.

• 17:31Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  Shirtless is pretty common. People ask me all the time, what do you think about him being shirtless? I'm like, I didn't really notice. I mean, it's just kind of no shoes, no shirt.

• 17:40Kylie Kelce?

  That's what, that's what happens when people ask me about the flip flops. I'm like, I don't, it didn't, I didn't register. I don't, I don't know. It's just like him in his natural habitat.

• 17:50Speaker 04

  Same.

• 17:51Kylie Kelce?

  In Bert's new standup special, Lucky, which you produced, he starts off by talking about how much weight he's lost.

• 17:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:00Kylie Kelce?

  I am on record saying that if Jason were to ever get a six pack, I would not be pleased.

• 18:07Kylie Kelce?

  How do you feel about this?

• 18:09Speaker 04

  Well, I feel kind of similarly. Clearly I have a type. He's my physical body type is like a little barrel chesty, a little beer belly. I don't like skinny lean guys. I don't think I ever have. I've always liked like a big bear.

• 18:26Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 18:26Speaker 04

  My dad's not a big bear. My dad's a little teeny tiny, like 145 pound guy. But yeah, I'm not into a six pack for Bert. Here's a funny story. When we were first dating, Bert shaved his entire body. And I was like, yeah, no, that you, you don't have the body type for that. You actually can't do that. Like, that's not your.

• 18:48Kylie Kelce?

  You're supposed to be a little fuzzy, sir.

• 18:50Speaker 04

  That's not your gig, man. Look in the mirror. A shaved man with your body shape is just wrong. Is incorrect.

• 18:58Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 18:59Speaker 04

  So he never did it again, but he was shaving his whole body before I met him. And then we started dating. I was like, you gotta just pump the brakes. You know who you are.

• 19:07Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 19:07Speaker 04

  You're just a big fella and I love that. I think it's super sexy.

• 19:12Kylie Kelce?

  It is. It's, it's the best body type out there. Uh, I also, I have to ask you, we spoke about this before we actually hopped on the record here. Um, but the accent that he does when he imitates you.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  He lays it on thick.

• 19:27Kylie Kelce?

  How do you feel about him, him, uh, imitating your accent and specifically going as aggressively as he does?

• 19:34Speaker 04

  Well, I don't like it.

• 19:37Speaker 04

  But I have lost that battle, obviously, since it's on camera. So, I mean, I was on record forever. I don't like it because I don't, I'm not really like that, but also not everything he talks about is true. So at a certain point, you know, what I have to do and what I've always done for every special is that I go, well, only I know is true. Or our family, uh, and that's really all that matters. And because I wrote comedy before I met Bert, that art, that art form to me is more important than anything else, really, as long as we're not really going over a boundary of privacy that we're not comfortable with.

• 20:23Speaker 04

  So when I sat in the audience and listened to everybody really enjoy him laying it on thick, I go, you know what? It's pretty easy to listen to how I actually talk. I have a podcast. If you want to see what I really sound like, you can tune in and hear me. I do have a southern accent, but I for sure don't sound like his imitation. So I just had to kind of treat it as an art form and just disconnect. Cause in the beginning I was like, you have to stop doing that. Like you, I, you are misrepresenting me so profoundly, but I also don't have two cousins who are married. You know, I mean, I did say to him, that kid, they ain't blood, but it was relative to something else. And he just, and I did, everything happened except.

• 21:05Speaker 04

  My two cousins are not married, although I do have cousins that are married, but they don't have a kid. So anyway, he just kind of mushes all this super deep redneck stuff together. And at a certain point, I had to let go because it was really funny.

• 21:19Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 21:19Speaker 04

  And that's the point is entertainment is really funny. Not all of it's true. Most of it's true, but not all of it.

• 21:26Kylie Kelce?

  I do think there's something to be said about, uh, like knowing in your own house, like what the truth is, right? Like knowing behind closed doors. I do not that it's like, I, I used to listen to sports radio when Jason was still playing and they would talk about all this speculation about like, what's happening in the locker room? What's happening here? What's happening there? And I would be like, oh, we talked about that yesterday. You're wrong.

• 21:50Speaker 04

  Totally. I, I feel that way, too. I feel if you, you invest where you should be invested. You should not be invested in sports radio. You should be invested in the conversation you had with your husband.

• 22:01Kylie Kelce?

  That's it.

• 22:01Speaker 04

  So I'm not invested in the comments people put on Burt or my or anybody's social media. I'm invested in what happens between me and Burt in the progress of our life. And that's, that's all that really matters.

• 22:15Kylie Kelce?

  Is there ever something where you're just like, that's where I draw the line?

• 22:19Speaker 04

  Sort of. So like in this last special, in the very top of the special, he talks about me going through menopause. And at a certain, he had done it so much that his tone shifted and it started sounding really mean, like he didn't like me, like he was putting me down.

• 22:38Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 22:38Speaker 04

  And I gave him this note. I saw it a couple of times and it, it kind of stayed that way a couple of times. And I was like, it doesn't sound like you love your wife. It sounds like you borderline like are intolerant of her or don't like her. So I don't like that. You need to, you need to find the, the, the smile. Where's the rascal? Where's the like, she, isn't she the cutest? Like, look at that big wart on her nose. Isn't it so cute? You know, you got to find that piece. And he did. And when he shifted, I was like, then I'm fine with you talking about all of it.

• 23:10Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 23:10Speaker 04

  So that tone and intention is just as important as the words you say or the story.

• 23:16Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely.

• 23:16Speaker 04

  You know, the feeling behind it matters and, and I love that he took that note. Other than that, I don't know that I've had any, any content that's been off limits. He just kind of naturally knows what's really off limits. So we've never really had an issue.

• 23:32Kylie Kelce?

  Now, speaking of your daughters and really like drawing that line, is there anything that, that Burt has told stories of or made jokes of that the girls have said like that's off limits?

• 23:44Speaker 04

  Yes. Um, so typically we let them watch the special before we send in the final cut to Netflix and they'll, only one time, Isla was like, you can't put that joke in and we took it out. So, um, I think the interesting thing about Burt's journey as a comic is that when he started getting a little bit of success, there was no Instagram. So when he started talking about our kids, it was very much in a vacuum, right? It was just, if you were at the live show, that's what we find.

• 24:19Kylie Kelce?

  You heard it. Yep.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  And so he would do the special and, and put those things on the special, but we also thought, well, everyone's already heard it. He doesn't have this huge fan base. We really, you know, when you start out as an artist, you don't really know if you're going to become this successful, which we're very blessed that he has. So telling stories about our family for one is his, is his life. It's his world. His, the three of us are like his, his world. So that's what he's inspired to talk about. Now, as the girls have gotten older and retroactively look back at what he's talked about, they're like, yeah, I don't know if that was cool. I don't think that was cool. You like exposed us to the whole world without our permission. And we agree, actually. I totally agree.

• 25:03Speaker 04

  But at the same time, we didn't really know where we were going and social media didn't exist at all, like Facebook, but that's it. So, um,

• 25:16Speaker 04

  If we were to do it over again, I don't know how we would have done it differently because I have another opinion about that too, you know. Bert did this great story about Isla's period party. Isla, when she got her period, wanted a period party. Her sister fell apart and was like, I'm not ready to be a big girl. I don't want this. And Isla was like, we are throwing down. I need a red velvet cake. I need pasta with marinara sauce. I need all the adults to have red wine. I need everyone to come dressed in red. And she wanted to make her red velvet cake. She iced it and she named it Jason because she got her period on Friday, the 13th. Shut up. That is my daughter and that is a true story.

• 25:58Kylie Kelce?

  That is a second kid. That is a second kid.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  It's insane. So Bert wasn't even planning on talking about that. And then he had to do Conan and he just started talking about it on Conan because he, you know, never meets a stranger and he's a complete open book. And all of a sudden in the aftermath, he went, oh, wait, I talked about Isla's period on Conan. Oh, that might not have been a great plan. And then, you know, the toothpaste out of the tube at that point. So how do you put it back in the tube? You can't really put it back in the tube. And the amount of emails Bert got from that one story, like now I have something of humor to talk to my daughter about, girl dads, when she gets her period.

• 26:45Speaker 04

  We're throwing a period party for our daughter. This is so inspiring that your household can talk about these things so openly. I am so amazed that a dad is this supportive of his daughter getting her period. We threw the period party and she in fact invited six girls and two boys and didn't tell the boys what the party was about and revealed it when she could the cake. This is for my period. And the two boys were like, what? It was brilliant and amazing.

• 27:14Kylie Kelce?

  Um, now you're also the COO of yours and Bert's production company. Uh, I read a quote where you said, I had no idea how to be a COO. Uh, Girl Scout troop leader, sure, but COO? Um, first of all, how long were you a Girl Scout troop leader?

• 27:30Speaker 04

  I'm still a Girl Scout troop leader.

• 27:31Kylie Kelce?

  That's incredible.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Year. Uh, my, I started a Girl Scout troop when Isla was in kindergarten. Uh, I recognized in preschool that Isla had some learning differences. She was quite significantly dyslexic, but I knew she was super smart. So by the middle of kindergarten, she still didn't have her ABCs and was the only kid in class who didn't have her ABCs. And I went, I need to do something that levels the playing field here. I'm going to start a Girl Scout troop and I'm going to invite all of the super smart kids in kindergarten and mine. And I'm going to find two other moms that I want to do this with, that I want to spend time with, and that's how I'm going to do this troop. And we still have that troop.

• 28:17Speaker 04

  Isla was a Girl Scout from kindergarten until she graduated high school. And, uh, Georgia was a Girl Scout from second grade until she graduated high school.

• 28:26Speaker 04

  We kept adding different age groups. So even though both my kids are in college, I have my last group, I have two groups now. I have a group of seniors in high school and a group of juniors in high school, and then I'm retiring. But I, I think that running that troop in a conscientious way, so we didn't just take what the Girl Scouts gave us and this, you know, just kind of point and shoot.

• 28:47Kylie Kelce?

  Findlessly follow, yeah.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  Not do that. We took what they gave us and went, how do we creatively apply this to our group? What of this does our group need? And what do they already know? I don't need to teach them something they already know. You know, there's a lot of STEM stuff in Girl Scouts. They get so much STEM in school. We don't need that kind of STEM. So how do we do STEM a different way? I kind of took that and applied it to running this company.

• 29:16Speaker 04

  I don't even have a college degree. So I came here just rolling up my sleeves going, "Well, how would you manage this?" It can't be that different from managing a Girl Scouts. I mean, there's like, I had 25 girls with 25 different personalities. And I have 13 employees now with 13 different personalities. So it's not really as different as you might think. The analytics piece of like, reading financial reports and all that, I already knew how to do that from just running a household. So I think sometimes when we're presented with a challenge that seems really out of our depth, if you really boil down what the basic, simple things are in that challenge, you'll find that you maybe already have the skill

• 30:00Speaker 04

  set. It just looks a little different. The fancy words that make COO seem huge, when you take it away, it's really personality management, and workflow management, and financial flow management. And if you run an appropriate household, you're already a COO.

• 30:18Kylie Kelce?

  Sure. I mean, ultimately, you're using like, basic leadership skills, right? Like, learning, like, knowing how to speak to each person, knowing how to effectively apply their strengths and weaknesses. And, and that's incredible. I think it's so, it is, I mean, not that you need the props, but it's such a mom win to hear that you saw Isla struggling with dyslexia and decided that there were other ways that she could excel. And to be able to show her that, and to be actively involved in helping her get there and see that, I think one of the best things we can do, especially for young girls, is to build

• 30:59Kylie Kelce?

  their confidence. And so, to know that like, she was dealing with something that was not a choice, and extremely difficult to navigate, that you were able to flex into that space and say like, "This is how we can show you all of these other things that you can be amazing at." It doesn't make you dumb, or anything else that you, that your brain works this way. Because- Your brain can then apply it to other things and hands-on activities, things that don't involve sitting down and trying to read a novel. The Play Kits by Love Every are designed to give parents more confidence. The play guides and Love Every app make the job of parenting easier with tons of activity ideas and expert guidance.

• 31:44Kylie Kelce?

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• 32:28Kylie Kelce?

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• 32:43Speaker 00

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• 33:10Kylie Kelce?

  Now, let's talk about your career. You are a podcast host. I love Wife of the Party, especially just the name in general. I feel like it's like the perfect summary. You've been doing the show since 2018, is that right?

• 33:28Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 33:29Kylie Kelce?

  And I always say that I love to hide in a corner, but here I am doing this now. So, did you always want to be in front of the camera?

• 33:41Speaker 04

  No, I have a weird journey. I think for a minute I thought I wanted to be an actress until I tried to be an actress and then I did not want to be an actress. I figured out I much preferred analyzing what was going on in a script. So I started writing screenplays. I wrote eight screenplays. Four of them were optioned. One was made. I got hired to like adapt a novel into a feature film. All this before I met Bert. And so I always have loved that. And that kind of creative exploration of relationships and dialogue. I've always loved that. I've always been a big reader. But I stopped writing when I got pregnant. I actually had a big project I was about to go into

• 34:23Speaker 04

  production on. I got pregnant with George and I got very morning sick. I was morning sick for like six months. And then Bert started touring when George was three days old. And we were super broke and I was like managing an apartment building so that we can have free rent and health insurance and just getting us from A to B. And I put all of that kind of aside and started just helping Bert with his creative process, which I really enjoyed. But at a certain point, I started seeing my future without my kids. About six, seven years ago, I was like, well, they're leaving. My life just can't be all about Bert because that's not good for either one of us. It's not good for Bert either. So what can I do for myself? And Bert said, you should start a podcast. I was like,

• 35:08Speaker 04

  nobody wants to hear what I have to say. Why would anybody want to hear what I have to say?

• 35:13Kylie Kelce?

  Jason's heard that.

• 35:14Speaker 04

  I don't have anything to say. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And he goes, well, don't worry about who listens to it. Worry about how it makes you feel and talk about things you're interested in. And just have your friends and have fun and don't think of it as like, I am going to now become a personality. Think of it as a creative outlet because you are so creative.

• 35:37Kylie Kelce?

  I think the fact that you've been doing it for this long, I think that that clearly exhibits that people are enjoying the authenticity of the conversations you're having. Because I think that that's always, I think that when it's clear that it is an honest and authentic conversation, that people lean into that no matter what. Even if it's not something that they agree with or like would normally listen to or talk about, I think that a lot of people just really can appreciate that on a deeper level.

• 36:05Speaker 04

  Well, authenticity really is the goal, right? For your life, for, for everything you do in life, it should be authentically yours. You are an incredibly authentic person. And that's why your podcast is so successful right out of the gate. You are very much who you are.

• 36:21Kylie Kelce?

  Well, I always say you get what you get. I don't have anything else to offer you.

• 36:26Speaker 04

  Girl, I don't have time to keep up with some other persona.

• 36:29Kylie Kelce?

  That's it. I, I can't, I don't, I don't have anything else. This is what I got. To lighten the mood, though, I would love to play a quick game with you. We call it, is it true?

• 36:40Kylie Kelce?

  And we'll specifically lean this one into your early relationship.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  Can I guess the questions? Did Bert really shave his body? Yes. Uh, did you really meet in a bowling alley? Yes. What, what, what are the questions?

• 36:53Kylie Kelce?

  Did Bert make you a mixtape?

• 36:55Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, yes. We didn't talk about the four days I asked for a break. Okay, we went to dinner with all my girlfriends and Bert made an actual ass of himself to the point where I was like, I don't know if I can date you. Like, I need four days. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? And who are you? Has someone just possessed your body? I cannot even be around you. So I just simply said to him, I just need a couple of days. Dude stopped eating, started drinking Slim Fast and showering all day and crying in the shower. So after two days, he wrote me a love letter and made a mixtape and put it on the windshield of my car and then left me a voicemail saying, I've left a mixtape on the windshield of

• 37:40Speaker 04

  your car. And so in the love letter, it's he, all this feelings poured out. And then in some part of the letter, he was like, track eight is exactly how I feel. Now, my question is, why was it track eight? Did you need me to understand one through seven before I got to eight? Was this like a preamble?

• 37:57Kylie Kelce?

  One through seven was the soundtrack you were supposed to be listening to while you read the beginning.

• 38:02Speaker 04

  I guess. I don't know. But I was like, why so complicated? Just put it to number one. So I listened to track eight and it was. So clearly, an apology for his behavior. It was a Coldplay song called Warning Signs. And if I play it today, he will immediately start sobbing because it triggers the four days that I left him, right? That he suffered drinking Slim Fast, waiting for me to return. But I listened to the words of that song, and it's basically about not realizing what you have and letting it walk out the door. And taking for granted who that person was. And I was like, he gets it. If he means this, he gets it.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  So I go back to his apartment, and he like fell on his knees and started sobbing and all this histrionics about me coming back. And, and yeah, he left a mixtape on my windshield for the four days that I needed some space because he was an asshole to my girlfriends. Yeah.

• 39:01Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. That's, well, I guess it is true.

• 39:04Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 39:06Kylie Kelce?

  Is it true that you guys do a date night once a week?

• 39:09Speaker 04

  No, we don't do it once a week. But we are actively dating each other, which looks a little different than a date night. Okay?

• 39:16Kylie Kelce?

  So, so this is, it's funny that you phrase it that way because when people say, like, what is the best marriage advice you've ever gotten? I always say that you should always date your spouse because at the end of the day, I truly believe you chose your spouse, right? Like you chose to love them, you chose to let them love you, and you chose to build a life together. And so at the end of the day, and it's no knock on my kids, I love my kids with my whole heart, and I always will, but I chose my husband. I didn't choose my kids. I, I got what I got with my kids, and I love them as much as I could ever love another being. But I, I chose my husband.

• 39:59Kylie Kelce?

  The same way that like I love my parents, I love my sister, they're my family, I got what I got, they're my family. My husband I picked. So it's one of those things where I'm like, I'm going to keep picking you by continuing to date you and appreciate you. And I think that over the 10 years that we've known each other, we've seen a growth in each other that like you can. Only appreciate if you're still like actively investing in your relationship, engaging with that person and then like being able to appreciate the changes in growth that you guys have made both together and independently. And I think that that's, that's all of the dating, right? Like, that's what you do when you date someone.

• 40:43Kylie Kelce?

  You get to know them and you get to like appreciate who they are and learn about them. And I'm still, I say it all like, I'm still learning my husband all the time. Like, I know who he is as a person.

• 40:56Speaker 04

  Right.

• 40:56Kylie Kelce?

  But I love learning him as he's continued throughout his career, throughout like just getting older, becoming a dad. Like, it's fascinating.

• 41:06Speaker 04

  It is fascinating. And the thing about me and Bert, we, we, as empty nesters, we've had the amazing experience of kind of reconnecting. We feel like we're dating again. We, it just confirmed how right we were 24 years ago to fall in love. Because we are best friends who are also very attracted to each other. But you can be attracted to somebody and not want to have a conversation with them.

• 41:39Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely.

• 41:40Speaker 04

  He's the first person I want to talk to. He's the first person I want to ask when I have a problem. He's the first person I want to tell when something amazing happens. And that has never changed, even when we weren't getting along. You know, there were periods of time when we just were like not getting along. He still was my person. And we say that all the time. You're just my person. I just wish for everybody on the planet that they could find their person. So there's nothing more fulfilling, not only in a relationship, but in yourself, to have someone look at you at warts and all, again, and say, you're my person forever, ride or die, and really believe it

• 42:25Speaker 04

  and, and, and feel that in return for that person. It's, I mean, I feel like, I don't know how we were smart enough to recognize it in each other and act on it. I don't, I don't know how. I don't know how that works. And you as well, that you were smart enough to go, hey, hold on.

• 42:43Kylie Kelce?

  It's that, I, I think you're absolutely right. It's like those signs where you're just like, oh, I. I've never met someone that I could sit down and talk to this long and feel like, I mean, even after months of doing it, it would still feel like it was like we were almost like giddy to get to know each other even more. And it was, that was one of those moments where you're just like, okay, this is, this is what you're, this is the feeling you're supposed to have.

• 43:11Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 43:12Kylie Kelce?

  The last thing that I want to just touch on is that you and Bert have a 5K coming up on May 4th in Tampa called Two Bears 5K.

• 43:21Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 43:22Kylie Kelce?

  This is happening at the Bucks Stadium.

• 43:24Speaker 04

  Yes, at Raymond James Stadium.

• 43:26Kylie Kelce?

  Amazing. And how can people get involved?

• 43:29Speaker 04

  You can go to twobears5k.com. There's going to be a Strava set up for the Two Bears 5K, not quite yet, but it's going to be such an amazing event. And, and the, the goal of this 5K is to just get off the couch. You don't have to run it. It's not a 5K run. It's just a 5K. If it takes you three hours to do the 5K, at least you've started moving. And, you know, we're just so excited about the excitement around the event. You can also walk the 5K virtually. So if you can't make it to Tampa, you can register for the virtual race, which will get you a t-shirt and a medal, so that you can feel like you're participating. So.

• 44:12Kylie Kelce?

  I will say, I, a little birdie told me, AKA Queen Emma, in my rundown, that your team was told that Jason may or may not be participating.

• 44:21Speaker 04

  I've been told he's registered.

• 44:23Kylie Kelce?

  Well, then, I better get registered too.

• 44:26Speaker 04

  Well, please.

• 44:27Kylie Kelce?

  I will, I will, at the very least, absolutely, virtually participate. We will include all the links and necessary information throughout our content to make sure that people are aware of it and also can join. I cannot thank you enough for coming on today. It was such a pleasure to talk. I, I mean, I know that I love talking to you, but I am so, so grateful that you came on the podcast and I'm so happy to have you here, not gonna lie.

• 44:55Speaker 04

  Well, thank you for having me. It's so nice to see your beautiful face and your beautiful soul, and it was a great conversation.

• 45:02Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you, LeAnn.

• 45:03Speaker 04

  Till I see you next time.

• 45:04Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much again to my guest, LeAnn Kreischer, for joining me on Not Gonna Lie. Make sure to check out Bert Kreischer's special, Lucky, on Netflix, produced by the wife of the party herself, LeAnn Kreischer. You can find even more clips from our conversation on my YouTube channel on More Ship Monday. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. I'll be back next Thursday with another special maternity leave episode of Not Gonna Lie. I'm excited for the real ones and the Kyliegers to find out who else I got a chance to talk to. In the meantime, make sure you follow us on all social media, at NGLwithKylie, for all the best moments from the show. We'll also be posting all sorts of new, never-before-seen clips throughout my maternity leave. We'd

• 45:47Kylie Kelce?

  never leave you real ones hanging. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to Not Gonna Lie on YouTube. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original, brought to you by Love Every. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in.

• 46:10Speaker 00

  Let's be honest, you don't go to the holiday gift exchange just to participate. You go to win. This year, cause a stir. Gift a KitchenAid stand mixer to whip up new traditions. 'Tis your season to mix it up.