ASHBY SAVED A WOMAN'S LIFE | Episode 242

It’s Halloween again in the studio and Ashby is here this week!! Drew and Ashby, sweating in their wigs, talk about the double standard of men vs. women in comedy, the San Diego Zoo safari park, getting mistaken for a beekeeper at Legoland, saving a woman’s life while working as a dental hygenist, realizing a 4-foot drop can kill you, and so much more. Follow Ashby on IG: https://www.instagram.com/ashby/?hl=en Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:34Drew Afualo?

  You know what? You would be great.

• 0:35Speaker 02

  Sorry. Oh, my God, I'm so insecure. I thought they were talking about me.

• 0:39Drew Afualo?

  They're just whispering.

• 0:40Speaker 02

  I'm like, they hate me. They hate me. They're like, just wrap this up. So we can get to the next episode.

• 0:45Drew Afualo?

  She thinks she can be in Abbott Elementary.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:54Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest before we get to the guest, though. Happy Halloween. This is arguably our favorite time of the year on the comment section where we're costumes and it's perfect transition to our amazing, hilarious, awesome guest, the one, the only, Ashby.

• 1:20Drew Afualo?

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• 2:04Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  I also did not realize this costume only has like three fingers, too.

• 2:11Drew Afualo?

  Right. You're not familiar with the thing one anatomy? Thing two anatomy?

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Thing one, thing two, three.

• 2:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, both of us are.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  One in the, one in the pink. Oop, I'm sorry.

• 2:20Drew Afualo?

  Two in the thing two.

• 2:24Drew Afualo?

  I love a good one in the pink, two in the same.

• 2:25Speaker 02

  Right, me too, me too.

• 2:26Drew Afualo?

  But thank you so much for coming to the show.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  Thank you, yes.

• 2:29Drew Afualo?

  Welcome. How does it feel?

• 2:31Speaker 02

  Feels good. It's actually really cozy. I feel like that's like my symptom because I put this on and I was like, I feel very calm.

• 2:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're like, I'm feeling protected.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  When like a certain type of clothing makes me feel calmer, I'm like, ooh, I should get tested.

• 2:46Drew Afualo?

  And you know what? If you talk about it on camera, it's okay. They'll diagnose you for you.

• 2:49Speaker 02

  Oh, 100%. Do you know what's funny? On my way here, too.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  I, every now and again, I have like spiritual psychosis. You know what I mean?

• 2:57Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  And I'm like, God, send me a sign. I'm not even kidding. I looked to my right, autism is beautiful sign.

• 3:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 3:05Drew Afualo?

  Well.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Oh, maybe.

• 3:07Drew Afualo?

  God, can you send me another sign?

• 3:08Speaker 02

  Maybe you got me mixed up with someone.

• 3:10Drew Afualo?

  Wait, hold on. Maybe I saw someone else's sign.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe I read the wrong sign. It was like so like genuinely clear as day. I'm like, no, it is, but maybe that's not my sign. I don't know.

• 3:19Drew Afualo?

  No, that can't be my sign.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  It cannot be my sign.

• 3:22Drew Afualo?

  You can show me another sign.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  Look at me.

• 3:23Drew Afualo?

  It can't be my sign. I know, me too. I'm like, there is no way. There is no way.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  It would not make sense.

• 3:29Drew Afualo?

  Well, well, speaking of besides signs, how have you been?

• 3:32Speaker 02

  I've been good. Life has been crazy.

• 3:35Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  But good crazy.

• 3:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, amazing crazy.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, amazing crazy. How are you? You just got married?

• 3:39Drew Afualo?

  I did. I did just get married. Oh.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  Does it feel crazy to say husband?

• 3:43Drew Afualo?

  It does, but it also feels kind of, it feels better because I was getting over fiance. I was kind of over that.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  That's fair. I've been a girlfriend for nine years.

• 3:52Drew Afualo?

  Well, I was a girlfriend for seven and a half before I got engaged.

• 3:55Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 3:55Drew Afualo?

  So I get that.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  You get it.

• 3:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I get like, well, first of all, I get not, not rushing, first of all.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  100%.

• 4:01Drew Afualo?

  Because there's no, nowhere to go.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Nowhere to go, baby.

• 4:03Drew Afualo?

  If we know, no reason to rush. That's how I feel about it. But also.

• 4:11Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'm glad to hear you're in a long, you were in a long-term relationship, too, just like me.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly. We started at 16, too. So everyone's like, when are you getting married? I'm like, well, pipe down. You know what I mean? I just got here.

• 4:20Drew Afualo?

  I know. I feel the same way because we got together when I was 21, like freshly 21. So I'm like, I didn't want to get married at 24.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:27Drew Afualo?

  No way.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 4:28Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'm happy to hear that. I'm sure you'll be happy to move to the next phase of.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  We're at like plaything. I call them plaything. You know what I mean?

• 4:36Drew Afualo?

  That's nice.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Right.

• 4:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, why not?

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Because partner, he's like, people are going to think you're gay. I'm like, maybe, that's not why they think I'm gay.

• 4:43Drew Afualo?

  That's the least of their concerns. Let me tell you something. I know. I started saying husband really early, like, because I was engaged for two years. Because next year, we'll be together for 10. So I was like, started calling him my husband like last year because I was like, ah, I'm over it.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Right.

• 4:57Drew Afualo?

  Whatever.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  Whatever.

• 4:57Drew Afualo?

  And the people were like, you got married? And I was like, who knows?

• 5:01Speaker 02

  My three fingers, pipe down, please.

• 5:04Drew Afualo?

  But I want to talk about you. I want to talk about how you first got into social media. I obviously know your lore with the Lorax specifically, but I would love to know how you got into it, like what you really wanted to do, where you started, all of that fun stuff.

• 5:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was last August. It was August 1st. I posted, I was like super sick. I posted the Hamilton trend. I don't know if you saw.

• 5:24Drew Afualo?

  Which one?

• 5:24Speaker 02

  Lin-Manuel Miranda. I speak Spanish. And it was like the sneaking out the window.

• 5:32Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  So I did that and then that blew up. And so I kept cosplaying basically as Lin, as Hamilton. And then I was like, oh, I don't want to only be known as Lin-Manuel Miranda's body double. And so I was like, I'm going to quickly, you know, do a costume gag. And so, and all the while, I was working my full-time job as a graphic designer remotely in Virginia. Right. And so literally on my lunch breaks, I would go live as Hamilton and like address the allegations of me cheating on my wife. It was a hoot. And then to kind of avoid getting stuck in that trend, I dressed up as like Pitbull. I did a live as him.

• 6:13Drew Afualo?

  Nice.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  And then to avoid getting stuck as that, because people love that, I did the Lorax. And that was like.

• 6:20Drew Afualo?

  The big, big, big one.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  That was crazy. And yeah, I did that for maybe like two months of like lives and videos as him. And then again, same strategy that I just started to do like surprise character lives and dress up and then slowly like introducing Ashby into, into it. And thank God they, could you imagine? They're like, eh, put the costume back on.

• 6:41Drew Afualo?

  She's actually funnier when she's a boy.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Right.

• 6:44Drew Afualo?

  I like how most of them were men. Yours or me?

• 6:46Speaker 02

  The gag is, I just had some introspection with white girl introspection first time in the shower. And I was like, I think, I'm always so frustrated that some of my jokes that would work if a man said it, don't work if I say it, just because they're a man. It's very annoying.

• 7:00Drew Afualo?

  Trust me, I know.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  But then I'm like, ooh, why do I always dress up as men? Because I think I'm funnier as a man.

• 7:05Drew Afualo?

  That's one of those where you're like.

• 7:07Speaker 02

  Uh oh.

• 7:07Drew Afualo?

  I'll come back to it.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  No, it was scary. I'm like, ah, and no.

• 7:10Drew Afualo?

  That's one of those where you're like, and I'm going to come back to that thought.

• 7:13Speaker 02

  I hear you.

• 7:14Drew Afualo?

  Now's not the time.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Not now. I'm butt naked in the shower.

• 7:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm going through a lot right now, so now's not the time.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're not going to, we're not going to dissect that. So maybe, maybe we'll get there.

• 7:22Drew Afualo?

  Interesting.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:23Drew Afualo?

  I feel that. I mean, that's fair. I recently said something that I was like, I shouldn't unpack that, where I was like, I talked about how sometimes when I want to articulate different thoughts that are more serious, I like to write them because I feel like if I say them, there's a prejudice that happens first. So I'm like, you guys will actually listen to me if I write it because, and I write it on something blank with nothing to inspire you to feel judgmental of the thought. Does that make sense?

• 7:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally.

• 7:52Drew Afualo?

  So that like I.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  And actually, I'm sorry, it didn't make sense to me. I'm sorry, I lied. I'm so sorry.

• 7:56Drew Afualo?

  I like, well, basically, I really just feel like they take it more seriously because it's not coming out of my face. They can like read it and then they'll take me more seriously by proxy.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  Right.

• 8:04Drew Afualo?

  Because they already know me as someone.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  I mean, I'm sure that's like their psychology behind. Like if it's your inner voice reading it or whatever, you know what I mean?

• 8:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's one of those where I'm like.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  I'm dyslexic, so I'm like, what the fuck did she just say?

• 8:16Drew Afualo?

  That's one of those thoughts I have where when I'm like, ooh, I shouldn't unpack that. And then I, and then part of me goes, that's probably a man's fault. And then I feel better.

• 8:24Speaker 02

  Right, that part. Yeah, I'm like, mm, someone did it and it wasn't me.

• 8:28Drew Afualo?

  So I do want to know about your history. Obviously, you said you were a graphic designer, but I'm curious, did you do theater? Did you like really want to be in entertainment? Was any of that in your, in your kind of dreams?

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I grew up. I grew up in, in Washington DC, huge theater scene, and I grew up training for like Broadway. That was like the thing. And that shit's hard, by the way. Like aside from like the orgies in theater class, like, that's a thing, by the way.

• 8:50Drew Afualo?

  Besides that incest that goes on in there?

• 8:52Speaker 02

  Kind of weird shit that goes on. People are like, they, they train their asses off. You have to be good at everything. You can't just do like, you know, ballet and jazz. You have to do like tap and stage combat and like stage intimacy class. It's the weirdest shit. Anyway, so I was doing that whole thing my whole life and like skipping school. My parents would drive me up to New York for like Broadway auditions. And then when I was like, oh, please let me go to college for this, they're like, er.

• 9:17Drew Afualo?

  I thought this was a hobby.

• 9:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. What?

• 9:19Drew Afualo?

  Like you're just like that.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  Wait, how?

• 9:20Drew Afualo?

  What about this made you think it was a hobby?

• 9:23Speaker 02

  Psych. And then, so I went to school. My first semester, I went for criminal justice.

• 9:28Drew Afualo?

  Right. Interesting.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  Right. No tap there. I was like, what the hell? Where is all the, where are my taps?

• 9:33Drew Afualo?

  Where is the stage combat?

• 9:34Speaker 02

  What do you mean I can't tap in the courtroom? What do you mean? And I did a, I lasted a semester doing that. And then I switched to graphic design and that later developed. I got my degree in that, later developed in working on sets as a production designer.

• 9:47Drew Afualo?

  Cool.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  Like a PA.

• 9:48Drew Afualo?

  So it gets you creative.

• 9:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was still creative. But I was definitely trying to inch my way toward being able to act again.

• 9:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like in the industry.

• 9:56Speaker 02

  It's just so hard to break in, like.

• 9:57Drew Afualo?

  For real.

• 9:58Speaker 02

  You know, when you stopped, I stopped at like 17. Everyone, you know, all your peers kept going. You know what I mean? So it's a train and they're, they stayed on it. It's hard to get back on, so.

• 10:08Drew Afualo?

  That's cool, though, that you're trained in so many facets of art.

• 10:11Speaker 02

  So like when the door opened, I was like, oh, I can tap.

• 10:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And you love character work.

• 10:15Speaker 02

  Love character work.

• 10:16Drew Afualo?

  Which I think is really fun.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  It's so fun.

• 10:18Drew Afualo?

  What would be like a dream for you in terms of like, would you want to write your own kind of sketch show? Or is there, would you want to be in a show? Or you're just kind of like, whoever will take me?

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Genuinely, whoever will take me. And not even for a check. I'm like, I just need a room. You know what I mean? I just need some water.

• 10:32Drew Afualo?

  10 minutes of your time.

• 10:34Speaker 02

  Hear me out. I don't know. I feel like I am I'm in the phase. It'll happen so quickly. So I couldn't even figure out. It was two weeks after I posted my first video. I was in New York taking meetings and that was like, what do you mean?

• 10:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  And they were all asking me like, you know, where do you see yourself in five years? What do you want out of this? And I literally genuinely did not know because I want everything. You know what I mean? Because I had I had so many dreams and now I can kind of like bring them back up. So it's kind of whatever sticks first. I'd love to be in like a, you know, a sitcom show. I'd love to be, you know, in O'Mary on Broadway, you know, literally whatever. Oh, that'd be so good.

• 11:10Drew Afualo?

  Or in like SNL and everything like that.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so like I

• 11:13Drew Afualo?

  I think you would thrive.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  I had the opportunity to audition for that.

• 11:15Drew Afualo?

  Very cool.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  A few months ago, obviously, you know, it didn't pan out because I'm here in a thing two costume. And not New York.

• 11:21Drew Afualo?

  I say that all the time too. I'm like, when I make it big, trust and believe you will not see me here.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  You won't see me.

• 11:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  But yeah, it's just like, it's it's so cool to be, I always thought I was gonna stay a dreamer, which I was, you know, very happy to be because I think that's a very whimsical way to live. But it's a blessing to be like a a working dreamer.

• 11:43Drew Afualo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, crazy.

• 11:45Drew Afualo?

  We feel like especially, I feel like that's something I talk about a lot with online people especially. Because as evil and twisted as the internet has

• 11:53Speaker 02

  You're crazy.

• 11:54Drew Afualo?

  They are insane. As evil and twisted as the internet has become. I've also feel very thankful to the internet because I feel like for people like you and I, I've said this before, I feel like it's given us the opportunity to pursue like

• 12:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:08Drew Afualo?

  Whereas like otherwise, we probably wouldn't have found those opportunities if we didn't make them ourselves.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 12:13Drew Afualo?

  So I think it's incredible that you were like, fuck it, I'm gonna do character work.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  It's crazy and it's so cool that there's a space being carved out for that.

• 12:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 12:20Speaker 02

  And there is like more legitimacy behind it. Like I think

• 12:23Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  Bitch, I'm the first one to be like, what do you mean? You create content like pipe down. Especially coming from the entertainment industry. Like I work, you know, as PA and on set and everything. So I'm like, okay, sure. You, you know, make videos. But now there is, there are, you know, I'm in rooms with executives that genuinely take me seriously.

• 12:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  I'm obviously not dressed like this. What I do, I'm like, all right, hear me out.

• 12:43Drew Afualo?

  Or are you?

• 12:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 12:44Drew Afualo?

  And that's just the gag.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  And they're like, what the fuck? And the gag is like, they're still, you know, 80 year old white men, you know,

• 12:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  like decrepit men, making decisions. And so, but it's it's it's starting to change.

• 12:55Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  Taking us seriously.

• 12:56Drew Afualo?

  And I feel like people like yourself and like me are are the reason why that starts to happen is because there is a lot of untapped talent.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:04Drew Afualo?

  That doesn't get recognized on a national stage unless you have a connection of some kind.

• 13:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:11Drew Afualo?

  And I think that's something I've said before too, where I'm like, I really didn't like get to a point where they were like, you know what? I think this girl has something. It got to the point where we just get too big to ignore. And then they're like, well, there's something here. There's something here. Maybe I should tell. Okay, fine. Fine. I'll hire the Lorax. Fine. Get her in the office. Fine.

• 13:27Speaker 02

  Fine.

• 13:29Drew Afualo?

  Sorry, guys. Had to ditch the turtle head. I'm having a panic attack.

• 13:33Drew Afualo?

  Sorry, guys. Had to ditch it. And I'm like, I'm sure Ashby's gonna ditch that wig soon too because she keeps going, what wig?

• 13:41Speaker 02

  Oh, Izzy's joke in the book.

• 13:44Drew Afualo?

  Okay, what, um, speaking of early career, what was like the first, like a moment that happened where you kind of felt like, oh, my God, this is like maybe turning into something that I can really like take this somewhere.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  I don't know. I mean, I I feel like TikTok has changed into that. Like, I was watching Grace, Grace's episode. And she commented on how, um, like views don't equal follows nowadays. You know what I mean?

• 14:08Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  And so the Hamilton videos that I was posting were going up in views, but also in follows. And I was like, oh, like people, what the hell? People like me? What the hell? Maybe I won't kill myself. Right?

• 14:19Drew Afualo?

  Never kill yourself.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  No, and don't do it. You're too hot. You're too sexy.

• 14:22Drew Afualo?

  Never, ever, ever do it. Dress up as Lin-Manuel Miranda.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  And, um, so I was like, okay, there's something there in terms of like connection to audience.

• 14:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:34Speaker 02

  And then Disney reached out and they were like, we want you to work the press line, which I'm like, how do you know I won't say a slur? Right? Like, how do you know I won't say a slur?

• 14:42Drew Afualo?

  Me always.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  I obviously would never.

• 14:44Drew Afualo?

  Me every time they they hire me. I'm like, okay, but you never know.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  But I really was like, interesting move. You know what I mean? That was like, they don't know me. I don't know them. And thank God I was good at it, you know, for for both of us because I, it opened doors for me to do more press junkets and press lines and stuff.

• 15:01Drew Afualo?

  Very cool.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  Um, and also like mix in character comedy too. So I feel like I I realized early on just because I'd never seen that happen before.

• 15:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  But it was very, it was bad for the psyche. You know what I mean? Like, not great for my mind.

• 15:14Drew Afualo?

  There are quite a few things that I've done in my career too, doing this where I'm like, when I'm in the room, I'm like, you guys are crazy.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, oh, my God, are you guys, you guys hearing yourself right now?

• 15:26Drew Afualo?

  You guys want to hire me? Okay.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  It's actually insane. I mean, but I never know what's real anymore because I, no one hates me more than me. You know, it's like, no, no one thinks I'm

• 15:36Drew Afualo?

  We gotta work on that.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  I know. No one thinks I'm worse at what I do than than me. And and that's, I don't think that'll ever go away.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  Everyone got sad. What happened?

• 15:47Drew Afualo?

  You got a little depressing.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  I thought you were having a fun time.

• 15:50Speaker 02

  But but so it's a lot of like imposter syndrome where I will be in those rooms and I'm like, I can't discern whether or not I'm right and you guys are crazy and believing in me, or I just don't believe in myself.

• 15:59Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 16:00Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I gotta work on that.

• 16:01Drew Afualo?

  I think they do believe in you. They clearly see something that's of value and obviously everybody does. So I think you, I think you are incredible and I think it is imposter syndrome. But I also think that's natural. I think only women ever feel that. Minority people only are the only ones who ever feel that in this industry especially.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:18Drew Afualo?

  I feel like we're the only ones who doubt.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Because we're always questioned about it. You know what I mean?

• 16:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  And we have to like try to prove it in a weird way. So.

• 16:24Drew Afualo?

  Well, and especially the way that we came into this industry too, which is like, we were living very normal lives and like, I I say that all the time. I'm actually really grateful that I went to college, graduated.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  I was just talking about this.

• 16:34Drew Afualo?

  Had a normal job, really.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Because college, you know, college education or standard education is not necessary at all.

• 16:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree. I said the same thing.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  To be a developed person in in any way. But for me, I valued so much of it. I took so much and I, you know, who I am, I think I needed those like added social skills and added like deadlines and, you know, to be on time for things. And just like the little things that you learn, not even like the curriculum.

• 16:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  And I definitely meet certain people where I'm like, I feel like you actually could have benefited from that. Not, I mean, sometimes I'm like, you gotta read a book. You have to read a book.

• 17:08Speaker 02

  But other times I'm like

• 17:08Drew Afualo?

  Especially in this industry.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 17:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so I, yeah, there, I'm I'm definitely glad it happened when it happened.

• 17:16Drew Afualo?

  Me too. I I agree. Yeah, you could not catch me at Charli D'Amelio time in my life.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 17:22Drew Afualo?

  I would have been a shooting star.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  She just followed me.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  I just put three fingers in my mouth. By the way, I was like

• 17:31Drew Afualo?

  Dixie D'Amelio followed me for a while and then unfollowed me. I don't know what that was. Dixie, I'm so sorry if I offended you and some, sometimes I just wanna be happy. That's maybe that's why she unfollowed me. We were doing two different things.

• 17:46Drew Afualo?

  We were both workshopping two different bits at the same time. I I feel the same way about about that, especially meeting people in this industry. And you're like, you could have benefited from college. I think the same thing.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:57Drew Afualo?

  You could have benefited from college and a real job.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  Right.

• 18:00Drew Afualo?

  Before this happened.

• 18:01Speaker 02

  Right.

• 18:02Drew Afualo?

  Uh, because you working press lines and stuff, I'm so curious. I'm sure you've noticed. There are some celebs I talk to where I'm like, I don't think you've ever spoken to a human person ever.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, or they're just so PR trained that they're like plasticky. And I'm like

• 18:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like I say, lobotomized. They feel like robots.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  But like, I I've met specifically, um, the men, which is so interesting.

• 18:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  I feel like the women are a little more plasticky, but but the men are like overly charismatic to the point where I'm like, do you know you're here right now? Like, they'll be saying things and they're like, you know, what you're doing is amazing. I love what you're, what you're doing. And you seem so incredible. And I'm like, eh, you're scaring me. Whereas like the women are more like composed and a little more lobotomized, but the men are almost like scarily charismatic to the point.

• 18:46Drew Afualo?

  Where it feels strange.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:48Drew Afualo?

  Because it doesn't feel real.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know what that is or what they, what they're teaching them over there.

• 18:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I, yeah, I've met a few like more famous men, I'll say, than women, who have been very strange and weird where I'm like, it feels like skinwalker shit. Like, it feels like you you Googled, how do humans interact?

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:07Drew Afualo?

  And then you you memorized it. And then you got in here and you're like, yes, hello, yes.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  I'm like, yeah, you know what? Yeah, hell, yeah. Whatever you're doing, it's working on me. It's like freaking me out. I don't like who it turns me into. I don't know.

• 19:18Drew Afualo?

  Did you talk to anyone that you were surprised they were awesome? Like you were glad they were awesome?

• 19:23Speaker 02

  You know who's awesome? John Cena.

• 19:26Drew Afualo?

  He is awesome.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's awesome. Okay?

• 19:29Drew Afualo?

  He is awesome.

• 19:30Speaker 02

  He's so nice. He remembered my name. Okay, the bar's low.

• 19:35Drew Afualo?

  No, but for men of that caliber, it's true.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:37Drew Afualo?

  That's like, that's rare.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  He just repeated my name back after I said my name's Ashby. But he did remember and, um, he was just so kind, like eye contact. But you could tell he was listening.

• 19:46Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 19:47Speaker 02

  And that's the difference. Like, a lot of people look me dead in my face and they were not processing what I was saying. Um, he he's so, he's so kind.

• 19:54Drew Afualo?

  That's cool. He he is. I talked to him, I talked to him at a premiere once and he was very nice and very fun and like, I love when they're a little bit silly.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:03Drew Afualo?

  Like, you don't have to be crazy, but like, like, I obviously, like, we as interviewers, we're like, we provide most of the silly.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  Right. I'll like, I'll like lob you.

• 20:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. They're layups more than anything.

• 20:16Speaker 02

  Right, right, right.

• 20:16Drew Afualo?

  But when they're not fun, like, or they're, you could just tell that they're like, it feels like, almost like torture for them to be there. You're like, okay, I I don't want to be here either.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry. Especially like when I'm dressed, I did the Ted Lasso premiere, uh, with Apple TV and I was, I was dressed as Ted. And there's one, one person that, you know, just tired, probably overworked, whatever, overpaid. Oops. And I was standing there looking the way that I did and I was, I felt so bad because I'm like, you shouldn't have to deal with this right now.

• 20:46Drew Afualo?

  Sorry about that.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Truly the last thing.

• 20:47Drew Afualo?

  They approved the mustache. Sorry about that.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  Right. I'm so sorry. They put this on me. I was asleep when they did it. Um, and so I do feel bad sometimes, but the people who get it, they get it.

• 20:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  They appreciate it.

• 20:56Drew Afualo?

  One, one time I interviewed someone and it was like, I was in costume because it was Halloween. But I was like, I was asking them like, oh, are you big? Obviously, it looked like this. I was in a big costume, whatever. I was like, do you love Halloween? And they were like, no, I I actually hate Halloween. Oh, well.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Oh, why'd you say that?

• 21:14Drew Afualo?

  And then after that, I was like, okay, well, unrelated. If you were wondering why I'm dressed this way, I just like really need to do laundry. So I fucking hate Halloween too.

• 21:25Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 21:25Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 21:26Drew Afualo?

  I fucking hate Halloween.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 21:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'd say it's hard. Like, have you ever had, you don't have to say who, but have you ever had like an interview where you're like, God, oh, my God, oh, my God?

• 21:35Speaker 02

  I mean, okay, sometime, I have multiple different shticks that I can do. You know what I mean? Like with, with Trixie, it's a little like chatty, you know, we, we try to jab at each other.

• 21:43Drew Afualo?

  Which is fun.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Right.

• 21:43Drew Afualo?

  Cause she's fun.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  You have to know your audience. Of course, there's always gonna be that like 12 year old that's like, that wasn't very nice. I'm like, girl, like, what do you mean? You know what we're talking about right now?

• 21:52Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  But then, like, sometimes I'll pick a shtick and it doesn't work. I was doing a, like a press junket thing with this very notable actress. And she took the mics, I had like the little DJI on the stick and with the foam cover like this on it.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  And she took it off to see what was underneath. And I made a joke like, oop, don't eat it, or something.

• 22:15Drew Afualo?

  Careful, it's not edible.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  And she, she went like this, she went.

• 22:19Speaker 02

  And I was like.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  All three fingers.

• 22:23Drew Afualo?

  That was a joke.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  It was so scary. And I, and it wasn't, you have like, you know, 30 seconds to then ask your question. So I couldn't spend 30 seconds being like, I am so sorry, but I knew you were gonna eat it.

• 22:32Drew Afualo?

  I was kidding.

• 22:33Speaker 02

  I'm sure they feed you really well.

• 22:34Drew Afualo?

  She said, I would never fucking do that ever, idiot.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  I genuinely, I was like, okay, awesome. So, sorry, where's the rope? I need the rope, I need the rope.

• 22:40Drew Afualo?

  Sorry, how high does this building go?

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Right, right. Did you know more than three feet can kill you?

• 22:46Drew Afualo?

  I did not know that, but I, but I would assume. I feel like four feet, though, is not that high.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Right, three feet, I didn't like, I didn't like, I didn't like Google this. It was, it was something I learned in, it was something I learned in class, unrelated to.

• 22:59Drew Afualo?

  Was it in the, the period of criminal justice?

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Right. That three feet, if you fall off a ladder, or three feet tall, you can, you can die.

• 23:04Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  Right.

• 23:06Drew Afualo?

  I didn't know that either, but it feels like not that high, like four.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  Again, the vibes got a little weird.

• 23:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. I'm, I'm with you, I saw you. I was right there with you. That's why I said, really, four feet can kill you? That's crazy. I'm six feet tall.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  Everyone else felt weird. It's like, I mean, you feel good.

• 23:20Drew Afualo?

  It's the costumes. It's sucking all the brain power out of me because we're having attacks.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  Right.

• 23:25Drew Afualo?

  Cause it's so like.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  I feel so good and you feel so. Do you know what I almost?

• 23:31Drew Afualo?

  I know, we're doing an opposites thing right now.

• 23:33Speaker 02

  I literally almost bought, but it, okay, I almost bought one of those like people cocoons.

• 23:38Drew Afualo?

  Oh, the ones that hang?

• 23:39Speaker 02

  Bitch, you know what I'm talking about.

• 23:41Drew Afualo?

  I saw the Autism is Beautiful sign too, so. Yeah, I know, I know all about that, yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  And I almost bought it, but it was one of those things where it's so big and it has to be like in the, like on a beam, like on a supportive beam.

• 23:52Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Then I'm like, everyone will see that. And they'll know.

• 23:54Drew Afualo?

  Well, and if I'm being honest, like, my big ass, like, I'm gonna rip that shit off the ceiling. Like, I don't wanna find, like, imagine me trying to calm myself down.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  Having a hard day.

• 24:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, imagine, imagine I'm having an attack and I get in that thing and it rips off the ceiling of my rental home.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 24:10Drew Afualo?

  Then I have to text my landlord, sorry, I was trying to calm myself down.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  Sorry, I was trying to regulate myself.

• 24:14Drew Afualo?

  Sorry, my, yeah, I'm sorry, my autism swing ripped out the drywall, my bad. I'm not doing that.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  I really, really do want to be tested, but apparently it's like four grand.

• 24:23Drew Afualo?

  No, same, likewise.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  And then I have to be tested for like, you know.

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• 25:37Speaker 02

  Being too poor.

• 25:38Drew Afualo?

  Well, yeah, well, then that's one of those.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Like, okay, so the test came back negative for autism, but positive that you actually couldn't pay the bill, so.

• 25:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, we're gonna need to put this on a credit card, multiple cards. I feel that way about it too, because I'm like, it is so expensive and then it's also just a yes or a no. Which makes me feel like when I took my dog, I was like, my second dog that we adopted, we fostered, and I took him to the vet. And the guy who I fostered him from told me towards the end of our meeting that he thinks he might be deaf. I said, huh?

• 26:06Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 26:06Drew Afualo?

  And he's had him for over a year. And I said, you think? And he goes, well, I didn't wanna get him tested because I, I had a feeling, but then when I took him to the vet, they said it's like $600 and it's just a yes or a no.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  You meant the man thought he was deaf.

• 26:18Drew Afualo?

  Oh, no, no, no, the dog.

• 26:18Speaker 02

  What the hell does a dog have to do with this?

• 26:19Drew Afualo?

  My dog, my dog, yes.

• 26:20Speaker 02

  Got it, got it, got it.

• 26:21Drew Afualo?

  So that's how I feel about the autism tests. Like, I'm like, they're just gonna give me a yes or a no. And then it's kind of like, well, then I spent all that money just to confirm something I kind of already knew.

• 26:29Speaker 02

  They're just gonna say, have you ever put on a onesie and how did you feel?

• 26:32Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  And I'm gonna say, great.

• 26:33Drew Afualo?

  Have you ever thought about buying this swing? They show it to me on the TikTok shop, I say.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Has God ever sent you a sign? It's so obvious.

• 26:39Drew Afualo?

  Are you familiar with this billboard? And they showed me that sign. And I say.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  It's my face. The hell?

• 26:42Drew Afualo?

  And that's the funny thing is I think I know what sign you're talking, like literal sign. I was like, I think I've driven past that sign as well.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  The instructions on the email were like, okay, you'll see an Autism is Beautiful sign, take a right.

• 26:54Drew Afualo?

  Hook a right, you can't miss it.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  Right.

• 26:56Drew Afualo?

  Hey, y'all, remember the other week when I was talking about how excited I am for Lululemon's new fall collection dropping September 8th? Well, the time has come. The fall collection is here and I finally got my hands on some of their new pieces. As you can see, look at me, ooh. And let's just say, these are getting added to my weekly rotation, all right? One of my favorite new pieces that I got is the seamless stripe trim tank top and mid-rise short set. They have this super cute vintage inspired stripe running down the side. As you can see, it's up here on my tank top that I really love. And honestly, when I put it on, I feel fast. I feel like I could run a decathlon, I feel like I could run a marathon, I could do anything in my new Lululemon.

• 27:38Drew Afualo?

  It's actually so common for workout clothes to compromise style for performance. And Lululemon's fall collection finally gives you the option to have both. Their pieces are perfect for any of my daily activities, from providing support during my gym workouts, to giving extra comfort and style when I'm out running errands, or traveling. That's why I've loved Lululemon pieces for so long, I genuinely feel like I can wear them everywhere. New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here. Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com. I do wanna talk about what's next for you in terms of like, where are you headed now? In terms of what's my next goal?

• 28:23Drew Afualo?

  Like, this is what I'm working on, this is what I really wanna focus on next?

• 28:26Speaker 02

  I have a project that I'll tell you about after. But we just like finalized the deal of it, so I'm very excited.

• 28:34Drew Afualo?

  How exciting, oh, my gosh, I'm so happy for you.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  I'm very excited. It's, it's just another like outlet for me to do funny things and, you know. So, yeah, it'll be really exciting. But then other than that, like just auditioning and doing that whole thing and, yeah.

• 28:48Drew Afualo?

  I've been doing a lot of auditioning too.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  Do you like it?

• 28:51Drew Afualo?

  I like it. I feel like I low key wish that it was back in the day where you would do more in-person stuff. I do feel like I do better in person than I do on self tapes.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  There's also like so many more layers, cause I grew up in theater and that was all in person. Now it's even more digital than it's ever been.

• 29:08Drew Afualo?

  I know, that's what everyone tells me.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  You lose, like, I don't know, I light up a room. And I'd love to light up a room.

• 29:13Drew Afualo?

  You're so me, because that's how I feel, I feel the same fucking way.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  My smile has booked me. Like, multiple.

• 29:19Drew Afualo?

  Listen, give me five minutes. It's gonna be hard for you not to wanna cast me in everything after.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  Pop my Invisalign out real quick. No, but like, it, it does give, get, get rid of like that level of personality, you know what I mean?

• 29:30Drew Afualo?

  I think so too, and I, I just feel like I don't shine the same in self tapes.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:35Drew Afualo?

  How do you feel about self tapes?

• 29:36Speaker 02

  I, I like them, I like doing them, but also like, okay, sometimes I feel like, how will they feel bad for me? Cause sometimes like every now and again.

• 29:46Drew Afualo?

  They're not gonna know how much I need it.

• 29:47Speaker 02

  Like in person, I would like walk in a little, you know, not great posture, maybe a little slower, maybe something just happened, maybe my mom just, you know, got sick or something.

• 29:55Drew Afualo?

  You're trying to sympathy them into the cast?

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Like, I'm already acting, I'm method. You know? And so, you know, maybe they feel a little bad. Maybe like, let's throw her a bone. Maybe it was on the edge, and it's like, we feel bad.

• 30:05Drew Afualo?

  Why not?

• 30:05Speaker 02

  That doesn't come across in a, so I've tried, it doesn't come across.

• 30:08Drew Afualo?

  They're like, look at the wig she has on, just put her.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  She's dressed as a doctor.

• 30:11Drew Afualo?

  It's okay, just put her in there.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  Just throw her in there. So, yeah, I feel like it gets rid of a little bit of that.

• 30:17Drew Afualo?

  That's, that's a good point. Mine's kind of the opposite where I'm like, I'm just so incredibly amazing and awesome.

• 30:23Speaker 02

  Right.

• 30:23Drew Afualo?

  And also intimidating in a, in a physical aggressive sense.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 30:27Drew Afualo?

  So maybe that's working my way in too.

• 30:29Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 30:29Drew Afualo?

  Where they're kind of like, ooh, okay, yeah, fine.

• 30:33Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Down, girl, down, girl. No stomping, no stomping.

• 30:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we're, we're attacking them from two different angles. You know what I mean? I think we're cornering, we're triangulating. I think what's, what would be a dream, like a show that's on the air right now, what would be a dream?

• 30:46Speaker 02

  Oh, every single one, I mean, like truly, I am, definitely.

• 30:48Drew Afualo?

  You're so me.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Oh, what, like, that's so bad.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  Okay, bitch, what's new? Like genuinely, I, every single tape I get sent from my team, I'm like, I just want you to let them know how badly I want this.

• 31:01Drew Afualo?

  This is a fucking dream of mine.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  You literally said that last time.

• 31:05Drew Afualo?

  And it's always true.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  Right. And they're like, maybe it's a Toyota commercial. I have never loved a car.

• 31:11Drew Afualo?

  I would fucking kill to be in this space of media.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  I'm like.

• 31:15Drew Afualo?

  Not the point, not the point.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  But, yeah, it's, it's, I don't know, again, I would love like a, you know, Abbott Elementary or.

• 31:24Drew Afualo?

  You'd be great in that.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 31:26Drew Afualo?

  You'd be fantastic. You know what you would be great in?

• 31:28Speaker 02

  Sorry, oh, my God, I'm so insecure, I thought they were talking about me. I heard whispering, I'm like, they hate me, they hate me. They're like, it's wrap this up, it's only gonna get the next episode. She thinks she can be in Abbott Elementary. Yeah.

• 31:40Drew Afualo?

  You know what you would be great in, but it's not comedy based at all, really, but there is comedy in it, The Pit. I think you would kill.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Do you think?

• 31:48Drew Afualo?

  I think so.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  Do you know what's crazy?

• 31:49Drew Afualo?

  I see that in you.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  I played, did you just hear me gulp? That's a joke. I was on Investigation Discovery multiple times as the dead body. So I actually could be that one. It's one of those things where it's like, okay, at this point, it's like, you're typecasting me. It's always like the 15 year old blonde white bitch that always dies. And it's true. And, oh, my God, they do. Literally, they just do.

• 32:11Drew Afualo?

  You're an SVU victim every time?

• 32:13Speaker 02

  Every single time.

• 32:14Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Right, I got like a 250 day rate.

• 32:17Drew Afualo?

  That's not bad, though, just to lay there.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  Sure, middle Maryland, fine.

• 32:22Drew Afualo?

  I think you would do so great in The Pit, like as like, one of the nurses or something?

• 32:26Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 32:27Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, that'd be awesome. Night shift? Okay, we're manifesting.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, give me the pit, give me the pit. I'm finna be in the pit.

• 32:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, honestly, if you do get cast in the pit, I would love if Laura could clip that and stitch it on the front.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  Oh, they'd love it. They're like, wait, what the fuck?

• 32:45Drew Afualo?

  This is the place to manifest, honestly.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  No, 100%.

• 32:48Drew Afualo?

  I joke about this a lot, but I put three dolls on Broadway from that chair.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 32:51Drew Afualo?

  Listen, from that chair to God's ears, hello.

• 32:54Speaker 02

  Amen, amen.

• 32:55Drew Afualo?

  Amen, sister.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  God was like, I just told you you have all to them. So I don't know. I don't know if we're speaking the same language.

• 33:00Drew Afualo?

  That's neither here nor there.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  Right.

• 33:01Drew Afualo?

  God doesn't give with both hands.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Right.

• 33:03Drew Afualo?

  So you get that and the role in the pit.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Right.

• 33:05Drew Afualo?

  It's a win-win either way.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  You know what? I'd love it. You know what? Fine. I'd say yes.

• 33:08Drew Afualo?

  What would you, what would you say, kind of a different pivot, but what would you say has been kind of the hardest part about now kind of doing this career? Because obviously, we talked about being very normal before this, and it's a very different transition, so I'm curious.

• 33:23Speaker 02

  I think, I mean, I share every part of me on the internet.

• 33:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  But not because I want to, only because like, I don't think it's that interesting. I don't know.

• 33:31Drew Afualo?

  I feel that way too.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  I'll just be like, yeah, I like picked my nose today. And everyone's like, that's so real. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. Yeah, I shot a little bit too. They're like, we love that. I'm like, oh, that's awesome.

• 33:41Drew Afualo?

  They're like, representation is sound part.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  I don't know. I think it does get to a point where I, I haven't been good at like stopping work and starting life. Like, there's no line there. It's all kind of like my career. Because it's, again, when you're, when that door opens, and it's only been 13 months, if we're talking baby, baby terms. But it's like, I don't want that door to close. I'm always thinking about it. And when I'm always thinking about it, I'm always thinking about what everyone thinks about me. And if I, literally if I see one comment about a 12-year-old who has epilepsy, and I made a joke about epilepsy where I flickered a light, which was very funny, by the way. I cannot sleep. Genuinely, I get nauseous and I do not eat for a day if I hurt one person's feelings, or if I'm like misunderstood.

• 34:22Drew Afualo?

  Listen, I tell, listen, I get that, mama.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  It's hard.

• 34:26Drew Afualo?

  It's hard, yeah.

• 34:27Speaker 02

  But again, it's, you know, everyone's like, oh, care less. I'm like, okay, bitch.

• 34:32Drew Afualo?

  God, why didn't I think about that?

• 34:34Speaker 02

  Genius.

• 34:35Drew Afualo?

  God, what great advice. You should, you should go be a therapist.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  But I also don't want to. I don't want to care less. I really, really do want to care about everyone and how I make people feel and, you know, what I give into the world and the energy and how I leave a room. And I always want to leave people better than how I found them.

• 34:48Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  And my intention always is to make people laugh. And if I'm not doing that, tell me and I'll scrap it. Like, if I'm not achieving what I went out to achieve, then fuck me, I guess. You know what I mean? I don't, I'm not gonna die on a hill that's hurting people. So, ooh.

• 35:04Drew Afualo?

  It's like that.

• 35:04Speaker 02

  Someone feel that?

• 35:05Drew Afualo?

  It's like.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  Pre-cha, that's crazy.

• 35:07Drew Afualo?

  It's like that balance. Like, you do have that balance, because then there's also like, there is the bean soup of it all too, uh, which the internet has become. And that's, that's the only part that I think has made the internet some, like unbearable, is, um, kind of refusing to acknowledge who has, who has historically been good. And also, there is a line between comedy and like actual harm. And like you were saying earlier, if I gave this joke to Shane Gillis, he would, I always joke, if I gave this joke to Shane Gillis, he'd sell out Madison Square Garden.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  He's always, he's literally always my example too. The shit that man has gotten away with and still has a career. Oh, you're kidding.

• 35:46Drew Afualo?

  And revered as one of the most hilarious men in the entire world. Like, that, that's why I said, like, I, oh, that's so funny you do that, because I, I'm like, he would sell out Madison Square Garden.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  It's, and it.

• 35:55Drew Afualo?

  If I started ghostwriting for comedians, you would have no idea where, where we could go.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  And it's like, and then, like, no tea, no shade, a little bit of both, of like, the Kevin Hart roast. Like, those white men were just itching to say the N-word.

• 36:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they were, they were so excited. They just couldn't wait.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  But then, every single time in one of those examples, it's always the women that get bashed.

• 36:16Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 36:16Speaker 02

  That, in that stark of an example of like.

• 36:19Drew Afualo?

  That's an extreme.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Like, why are we joking about this? Is this even funny anymore? Even then, it's the women that get bashed. I'm like, oh. There's something there, and even me as a, like, a person in society, I'll view, uh, men funnier than women. And that's just an automatic thing that, like, when I'm watching a show, I'm like, oh, that's so funny. But then I have to check myself and be like, well, if a woman said that line, or if this was a woman, like a female character.

• 36:42Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  And it's, it's interesting, because I'm, you know, I'm a.

• 36:45Drew Afualo?

  It's subconscious. Yeah, well, it's subconscious in a lot of ways, and I think women are constantly policing themselves. Like, in addition to being police, they're also policing themselves. So it's like, men are just given a far longer leash, like, especially in comedy. Like, they're allowed to, to push boundaries, they're allowed to make really off-kilter jokes, as long as it's done correctly, like, whereas women kind of have a one-shot-only thing. And then if you factor the TikTok into it, bitch, it's a whole nother.

• 37:12Speaker 02

  I also truly do have a theory that because a lot of men don't think women can be funny, they don't take what they say as a joke. So I'll say a joke.

• 37:21Drew Afualo?

  That's actually a really good point, yeah.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  About like, if someone's like, my dad died, and I'm like, what, like his hair? A joke.

• 37:25Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  People who do not think women can be funny, take that as like a literal statement that I was making fun of this girl's dead dad.

• 37:33Drew Afualo?

  Then that's a good point, yeah.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  And it's, I can't really blame them for it, because it is so subconscious, it's so like ingrained, and I think how we view women still, and it's like a long road to iron those things out.

• 37:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  But it is one of those things where I genuinely just think it's because there's a disbelief that women can even make a joke. You know what I mean?

• 37:49Drew Afualo?

  No, that's such a good point. Because then it's like, oh, she must have meant that.

• 37:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:53Drew Afualo?

  And it's like, or I'm just being hilarious. Like, there's that too.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Or the comment, I'm sure you get this a lot, where it's like, she's so unintentionally funny, or she's so effortlessly funny. I'm like, do you know I'm sweating my fucking ass crack off trying to make a joke here?

• 38:03Drew Afualo?

  That's me trying my hardest.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  I'm trying my fucking hardest. So yes, it comes across funny, because I meant it to be funny. But then, but then Shane Gillis was like, ooh, the meticulous way that he. Oh, you're kidding.

• 38:12Drew Afualo?

  That was planned. That was like a layered joke. Well, and that's the worst part is like, even as women, we can, I know a funny joke when I hear one.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 38:21Drew Afualo?

  So I can give credit where it's due.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  And I set it up 10 minutes ago. It's not, it's not, I, I think there is too, an art of coming off as like sporadic, or like, ooh, she's so crazy. It's like, I think that is a funny persona, and I think I get that a lot too, like whenever I go live and, you know, I read comments and it's, it's improv. It's not that crazy. But then there are those comments of like, wow, she has no idea. I'm like, huh? What do you mean?

• 38:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, everything you're doing is just by accident, or you're just, you're going insane and wanting to put on costumes. Like, they're acting like nothing about it is intentional.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 38:54Drew Afualo?

  Because they find you funny.

• 38:56Speaker 02

  Right.

• 38:56Drew Afualo?

  So they're like, this can't be intentional. She's hilarious.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  But again, I, I love that, I think there is like such a sweet spot in there, because I want to be known as a funny person. Sometimes it bites me the butt, where like, I'll be doing my makeup on live, and everyone's like, mm, not funny. I'm like, oh, I wasn't trying.

• 39:12Drew Afualo?

  You're just living life, and they're like, um, get back to the funny stuff, yeah.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  Okay, well, sometimes I'm not trying to be funny, baby. But, you know, I, I think I would much rather be known as a comedic entertainer, rather than like, you know, an influencer, or like.

• 39:27Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 39:28Speaker 02

  A good talker. You know what I mean? Because there is more validity behind it. And I think I do want to put in the work that it takes to be that person.

• 39:34Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  You know?

• 39:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I think that's something that, uh, you've probably noticed since when you start meeting people who went up the traditional way, and they've been in this industry for a long time. They can appreciate, like, a lot of the stand-ups I'm friends with, like, they can appreciate that I respect the art, so I'm not asking for, oh, give it to me, because I have a lot of followers.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  Right, right, right.

• 39:53Drew Afualo?

  Um, so they, they can appreciate that, and I think that makes them less averse to the blending of the worlds, because.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  You have to be aware.

• 40:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, to some extent, like, but I also think too, I'm like Hollywood as a whole stands on the shoulders of nepotism. I don't have a famous fucking dad, so I had to go up a different way, bitch. I just start getting in the ass of every man. That's awful. And that's how I got in here, so.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  So funny.

• 40:14Drew Afualo?

  You had to put on Lin-Manuel's ponytail, and I had to do that.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  I had to get in drag.

• 40:19Drew Afualo?

  I had to be in drag, mama.

• 40:21Speaker 02

  I literally, I have, okay, so I'm also working on getting diagnosed with OCD, because I have ruminations. Like, okay.

• 40:26Drew Afualo?

  I also have OCD. I got diagnosed with that earlier this year.

• 40:30Speaker 02

  Really? Oh, my God.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  And I genuinely, I've been telling myself, you have a famous dad. You're a nepo baby.

• 40:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 40:41Speaker 02

  I don't. I literally don't. My dad's in sales.

• 40:43Drew Afualo?

  Like, you're living in fear that you maybe have.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  My dad's in security, sales for banks.

• 40:48Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  And, um, genuinely, like, over the past month, I'm like, you have a famous dad and you're a nepo baby. And I'm like, oh, my God, I am.

• 40:53Drew Afualo?

  And they're gonna find out.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  And I have proof, by the way, that I don't have a famous dad.

• 40:57Drew Afualo?

  Well, your dad, yeah, you could ask your dad.

• 40:58Speaker 02

  And everyone's gonna find out. And you're gonna, like, what the fuck am I cooking up here? Because that's a crazy narrative.

• 41:04Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, though, I think that's really good self-awareness.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:07Drew Afualo?

  There are quite a few white girls that are being outed.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 41:10Drew Afualo?

  That lefty girl, that whatever the fuck that girl's name is.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  Still a lefty?

• 41:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, her.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:14Drew Afualo?

  Hello. That's why they're popping up out of nowhere. So maybe that's why. You're like, you're getting paranoid.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, do I have a famous dad? Maybe at like Deloitte, he's a fucking famous man.

• 41:23Drew Afualo?

  I better never find out I have a famous dad. If I do, oh, you best to believe I'm gonna nepo baby the fuck out of that thing.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  100%.

• 41:29Drew Afualo?

  Oh, then why am I doing all this by myself? I need help.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  And I never blame, never blame the baby. I never blame the baby. If I was baby, I'd nepo baby all the way. I hope my baby's a nepo baby.

• 41:38Drew Afualo?

  I literally told The Rock, because he, we were joking about, I was like, oh, my God, if nepotism was at play here, I'd trust and believe I'd be telling people you were my dad. I would be telling people right fucking now, you're my dad.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  And as a white person, I'd believe it.

• 41:50Drew Afualo?

  And that works, that works. I'd literally be like, um, yes, that's my actual dad, and I need a role in the next movie franchise ASAP, please. Thank you so much.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  I'd be like, yeah, you, Brettman, both kids. Yeah, I don't see any difference.

• 42:03Drew Afualo?

  I know, me and Brettman sisters, and also both children of The Rock, obviously. He's full Filipino. No worries. No worries, they can't tell. No worries, not a big deal.

• 42:14Speaker 02

  Do you remember that clip? Who the fuck said that? Filipina?

• 42:17Drew Afualo?

  Bill, oh, Cameron Diaz.

• 42:20Speaker 02

  Little dobo.

• 42:21Drew Afualo?

  I know a lot of Filipinas.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  Filipinas, I love that one. Oh my god, I love that one.

• 42:26Drew Afualo?

  I love, uh, I love clips like that when you just whip them out in conversation. I have like the crazy kind of brain rot where like I'll just say it and sometimes I forget that not everybody's in this industry. So they don't get a lot of those references.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  Every single time someone like cuts me off in conversation, I go, oh, oh, so you don't want to talk about nine eleven? And everyone's like.

• 42:46Drew Afualo?

  Nobody wants to talk about nine eleven.

• 42:47Speaker 02

  I guess you can talk about nine eleven and I'm like, no, like, no, like the, the video.

• 42:52Drew Afualo?

  You guys know the, you guys know the clip?

• 42:54Speaker 02

  No worries. No, but yeah, you can't go in strong with those if it's like, if it's heavy topics.

• 42:59Drew Afualo?

  Literally like my, my husband's birthday is in October and last year, like obviously it's around Halloween and like, we went to something for his birthday last year. We had this like safari thing at the San Diego Safari Park. Shout out.

• 43:12Speaker 02

  I went there.

• 43:13Drew Afualo?

  Do you love it?

• 43:14Speaker 02

  Did you do the, the?

• 43:14Drew Afualo?

  The roar and snore?

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Roar and snore.

• 43:16Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, Ash, we've literally, we're the same person. Wasn't it so amazing?

• 43:19Speaker 02

  I felt like I was in Africa.

• 43:20Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I truly felt like I was like, this is the coolest thing.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  It's exactly like Africa there.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Literally, it's exactly like Africa.

• 43:28Drew Afualo?

  That when I did that tour with like my whole family, there was like 11 of us, like of friends and family. About like at least three or four times, all of the guides we had were go, no kids, huh? Okay, yeah, no worries. Like there's no kid, no kids.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  No kids.

• 43:41Drew Afualo?

  No, I was like, you guys don't go with your adult friends to go bond at the zoo? Okay.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  I, my boyfriend and I went to Legoland, um, which we'll never do again.

• 43:50Drew Afualo?

  It's kinda, it's kinda not great.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  Well, it's one of those things that you I guess are required to like have kids or else you're like there for the wrong reasons.

• 43:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 43:57Speaker 02

  There's no right reason, I guess, to be there alone as an adult. And we knew that, we knew that because we did like a Costco Legoland day.

• 44:04Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  We're white, I don't know if you knew it.

• 44:05Drew Afualo?

  Right, yes.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  So we, we hit Costco, got a dog, went to Legoland and we walk in, rope dropped by the way. We walk in.

• 44:13Drew Afualo?

  Barricade at Legoland.

• 44:16Speaker 02

  I'm gonna kill a six year old out the way.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  And, um, and so we're walking to the ride and, um, we're in like a crowd of, you know, well, kids and their parents. And an employee, like three employees grab my boyfriend and say, okay, right this way. I'm like, oh, this is nice. They're like, okay, so the bee issue is over here. We're like bee issue. And mind you, we dressed for the, we look like little safari people, like we're dressed in tan, he's wearing a hat. He thought he was a fucking beekeeper. They had a bee issue. They literally, they, the only reason we could have been there was to tend to their bee problem and.

• 44:53Drew Afualo?

  To this pest control?

• 44:54Speaker 02

  Fucking rampant bee colony that there's no other reason. I guess I was maybe his assistant or I don't know what I was in that story.

• 45:02Drew Afualo?

  Beekeeper? You're the sous chef?

• 45:05Speaker 02

  You're gonna hold the, hold the smoke pump, right? You're gonna smoke them out. And I, I was baffled. I'm like, I'm never coming back here again. I must have a kid right now. And they're like, oh, we're so sorry. No, we have a bee problem. And sure enough, we saw the beekeeper, doppelganger, looks just like my fucking boyfriend.

• 45:19Drew Afualo?

  They said, you can't blame me, you do look like a beekeeper.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  Right, I'm like, oh, fuck, they were right.

• 45:24Drew Afualo?

  There is this joke in. Did you ever watch The New Girl? Like the show? Did you remember that episode where they, they, there's like a rival bar? And then when Nick and Schmidt go over there to sleuth, the lady who owns the bar goes, are you the walnut wholesalesman? And then he goes, what? And then he goes, who sells walnuts wholesale?

• 45:42Speaker 02

  Wholesale is so funny.

• 45:43Drew Afualo?

  And she goes, you just kinda look like that. And then when the actual guy comes, he looks exactly like you. That was your boyfriend?

• 45:49Speaker 02

  Sometimes you just have to be like, yeah.

• 45:50Drew Afualo?

  They're like beekeeper, right?

• 45:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, you were right.

• 45:52Drew Afualo?

  What do you do? Keep bees?

• 45:54Speaker 02

  I bet you keep bees for a living.

• 45:56Drew Afualo?

  You big beekeeping fan? That's crazy.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was insane. Ridiculous.

• 46:00Drew Afualo?

  Well, yeah, when we were at the safari park, essentially it was obviously around Halloween. They had like Halloween stuff up. But like me and all of my friends and my family, we kept going pumpkin. Every, every time we saw pumpkin, pumpkin. And then it would echo at least three or four pumpkins.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 46:16Drew Afualo?

  So we kept doing that like for days. Like we did it for so long that my mom goes, is that from something? Like what is that from? What are you guys saying? Like?

• 46:24Speaker 02

  I love moms. They think everything has like a nice.

• 46:26Drew Afualo?

  What are you, they're like, is that from something? Or like, oh, it's just, it's this thing on to, it would take longer for me to explain.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  Then you showed the video and they're like, oh, do you know them from school? Or I'm like, no, I.

• 46:36Drew Afualo?

  That's my, that's so my dad core too. Like when I show my dad a funny video, my dad's like, who is that? Do you know them?

• 46:43Speaker 02

  My dad will send a video of me to me and be like, who the fuck is that? I'm like, right, right.

• 46:49Drew Afualo?

  Or my dad will see things like seven months later and be like, did you hear about this?

• 46:53Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 46:54Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, yes, I did. I saw it quite a while ago.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  Jackson just died. And you're like, uh, yeah.

• 47:00Drew Afualo?

  Did you know?

• 47:02Speaker 02

  Obama was just elected. This is huge.

• 47:05Drew Afualo?

  This is huge for us. Okay, I do have some fun facts about you.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 47:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, don't know if you know, but I do have some fun facts about, well, you'll let, I always say you'll let me know if they're fun.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 47:17Drew Afualo?

  And if they're not fun, I'm gonna fire Amanda. So no, no pressure. Okay, so first one.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  Your parents are divorced.

• 47:25Drew Afualo?

  You have autism.

• 47:26Speaker 02

  Right. No, not super fun, right?

• 47:30Drew Afualo?

  Okay, this first one says you played, uh, Brooke Windham in Legally Blonde the Musical.

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• 48:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's from my mom's Facebook.

• 48:47Speaker 02

  Which by the way, I just, I literally just, I literally just like had a company be like, we can erase you from the internet. I'm like, hell yeah. And they gave me like a whole report on everything that was online. Bitch, my, my asshole was up there. Like, literally everything was on there. Everything was, the apartment I live in right now and the best way to enter the building was on there. And I just moved.

• 49:07Speaker 02

  So yeah, go ahead. That was crazy.

• 49:09Drew Afualo?

  And then they gave that report to Amanda and then she used it to make your fun facts. You played Brooke Windham. Okay, Legally Blonde the Musical is one of my favorite musicals of all time.

• 49:18Speaker 02

  And mind you, I was cast, the girl that was meant to play Brooke Windham, uh, had to get like bone surgery. I don't know which bone. But like she had to get one of them fixed and, ooh, okay, hell yeah. Um, and anytime I get a laugh. And I had to step in like two days before.

• 49:35Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy. Did you do the whole jump roping in a living?

• 49:38Speaker 02

  And I'm asthmatic.

• 49:39Drew Afualo?

  Damn.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  Right.

• 49:40Drew Afualo?

  Look at you bitch.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Right.

• 49:41Drew Afualo?

  That is truly a Peloton workout when I see that.

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Absolutely insane.

• 49:45Drew Afualo?

  As you're belting at the same time.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Right.

• 49:47Drew Afualo?

  That is one of the best songs on the soundtrack too. I'm jealous.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  Oh, it's so good.

• 49:50Drew Afualo?

  That's fucking awesome. I think that's so sick. Okay, this next one says you used to have a job doing print production on Walking Dead comics?

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 49:57Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 49:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I worked at Skybound Entertainment. They do Invincible, Walking Dead, Transformers, Lego, um, all that stuff. Yeah.

• 50:05Drew Afualo?

  That is so cool.

• 50:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm pretty successful. So I don't know if you've heard about me.

• 50:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, just one of my many accolades. So also right here, it says you worked as a dental hygienist for six years?

• 50:17Speaker 02

  Yes, I did. Yes.

• 50:19Drew Afualo?

  What are you doing playing in people's mouths? You should not be doing that.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  And I actually was, and do you know, I actually saved a woman's life, um, twice because, hold on now, pipe down. Because, okay, so I found this, um, I was well confused and I was like, I don't know what I want to do with my life. So I literally just Googled highest paying job for lowest amount of school time. That was the exact Google search. And no tea, no shade, dental hygienist was the first one.

• 50:42Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  And, um, I mean, albeit still like six years of school.

• 50:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 50:46Speaker 02

  But they were like, you could be a dental assistant for no school, I think. Maybe it said probably not. And I found a private dental practice across my street. So I went over and me and my like tight ass, I was like, hey, like, do you guys take like, you know, like, interns or whatever? And he was like, I, you can tell me how much you want to be paid. And I will pay you that hourly if you can make it two weeks training under me. And I was like, hell yeah. I bought 10 shrubs, a thousand dollars by the way.

• 51:14Drew Afualo?

  What kind of movie ass deal is that? I'll give you the job of a lifetime.

• 51:18Speaker 02

  And guess what?

• 51:19Drew Afualo?

  If you survive.

• 51:19Speaker 02

  I didn't. And I was like, that's why he offers the fucking bank is because no one makes it. It was rigorous. It was bootcamp. I had to memorize how many teeth are in the mouth. Whoa, that's a lot of information. I still don't know actually. Um, and.

• 51:32Drew Afualo?

  I think it's 32.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  Sure. And you had to like lay out these like certain trays for certain operations and stuff. But there was one time he was taking a, I was doing the suction and water stuff. Um, felt super illegal by the way. And he was removing a, a temporary tooth from this old woman's mouth and it fell down the back of her throat and he didn't notice. And so I went in there with my fingers. I'm not even kidding, I went in there, I-

• 51:55Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Three fingers into this woman's mouth. And yeah, she was gagging, but you know, whatever. And so I took it out, saved her life. And he was mad at me, of course, because apparently, you know, I didn't have gloves on or whatever. There was some, something I missed in the protocol, but she's alive. Well, maybe not, she's old, but I don't know, it was a couple of years ago. She was probably like ninety something. Anyway, she's, she lived for a little bit after that.

• 52:17Drew Afualo?

  Imagine, imagine she died from whatever germ you put in her throat grabbing that too.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  Just full pneumonia, just killed her, day after she's dead.

• 52:24Drew Afualo?

  He's like, actually, you made it a lot worse. You made it a thousand times worse, actually.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  Right, right. But my intention was there, and that's all that mattered.

• 52:31Drew Afualo?

  But you did save someone's life.

• 52:33Speaker 02

  Right, for a short time.

• 52:33Drew Afualo?

  Good for you.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 52:34Drew Afualo?

  That's what I, that's what I would be telling people. I'd be leading with that.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Right, and I do.

• 52:38Drew Afualo?

  Maybe not the other stuff, I lead, I lead with that. I did save someone's life.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I should, I should do that.

• 52:43Drew Afualo?

  I shouldn't have been in there and it should not have been-

• 52:44Speaker 02

  Have you ever saved anyone's life before?

• 52:45Drew Afualo?

  Have I ever saved anyone's life? No, my life has been saved a couple of times, though.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 52:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was a big choker when I was a kid, um, that's just something about me.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 52:54Drew Afualo?

  Um, but I literally got to the point where like peppermint candies, like little hard candies, I got, they got banned from me. Like, my mom was like, she is not allowed to have those. Because every time I had one, I would choke.

• 53:06Speaker 02

  You swallowed it whole, or like what do you-

• 53:07Drew Afualo?

  I guess, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if I was just an avid sucker and it just flew down there.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  Right, for sure.

• 53:12Drew Afualo?

  But I, I remember, um, when I was a kid, I literally, uh, was at, it was my sister's birthday party. I couldn't have been older than like two or three. Um, there was, like, you know, piñatas, they have a bunch of candy, but in like-

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Right.

• 53:25Drew Afualo?

  Mexican piñata, piñatas, they also put like peanuts in there, like full-sized peanuts, like big ones you get at the circus. Like, they're fucking huge and they have the shells still. Um, I like opened one, yeah, and I just ate the whole thing, shell and all. Uh, obviously got lodged in my throat, I started choking, and then my godfather's dad was a firefighter for like years. So he literally, three fingers down my throat, scooped that bitch out.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 53:49Drew Afualo?

  And it scratched my throat and everything, I had to go to the hospital and all that. And then now, to this day, my family still calls me Peanut.

• 53:55Speaker 02

  That's honestly really cute, I wish I had a nickname.

• 53:59Drew Afualo?

  If anyone wants to give me one.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Maybe like cutie patootie, I don't know.

• 54:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so I was a big choker.

• 54:06Speaker 02

  Two by two Lego.

• 54:06Drew Afualo?

  You did?

• 54:07Speaker 02

  Or one by one, my bad, yellow. And it went to the back of my throat, and I was trying to, weird history with Legos today, this is crazy. Um, and I was like trying to, you know, take it apart from another Lego, and it shot down the back of my throat. And-

• 54:21Drew Afualo?

  Were you a child?

• 54:22Speaker 02

  I was a child, yeah.

• 54:22Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 54:23Speaker 02

  Well, I was sixteen.

• 54:26Drew Afualo?

  So I guess, so a minor.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  So I was getting there, I was getting up there. Um, and so, you know, well, there's three fingers on her. And so three fingers, of course, down my throat, and I had to scoop it out. But it was, if it was any centimeter down, deeper down my throat, I would have died.

• 54:41Drew Afualo?

  You did, you did it yourself?

• 54:43Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 54:44Drew Afualo?

  You, you love saying fingers and throats.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  No one's gonna come and save you.

• 54:49Speaker 02

  You have to save yourselves.

• 54:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, sometimes, you're gonna have to do it yourself.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  Not a man is gonna come and save you from a one by one Lego down your throat.

• 54:57Drew Afualo?

  Sorry, one by one.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 54:58Drew Afualo?

  Yellow.

• 55:02Drew Afualo?

  That's a crazy way to choke. That would be a crazy way to choke.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's insane.

• 55:06Drew Afualo?

  You ate, you ate a Lego on accident.

• 55:08Speaker 02

  But now I have the, the machine, the-

• 55:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, the one that suctioned it?

• 55:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, the, the life vac, this one.

• 55:13Drew Afualo?

  Ooh.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  And I got two, one for my car and one for my apartment. Because of course, I'm like, well, just my luck, you know, I get in the car and I'm choking.

• 55:22Drew Afualo?

  And I, and I accidentally swallow a Lego again.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  Right.

• 55:25Drew Afualo?

  While I'm driving.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  And let's be real, I only eat in the car, like, I'm not eating at all. What are we doing? It's twenty twenty-six.

• 55:30Drew Afualo?

  You eat while you drive?

• 55:31Speaker 02

  Right.

• 55:32Drew Afualo?

  I feel you.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  So yeah, just in case.

• 55:33Drew Afualo?

  Well, you know what? I love that you're, I feel like we're going insane, low-key, the way that we're jogging.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  I feel like I'm hallucinating. Hundred percent, hundred percent.

• 55:43Drew Afualo?

  Okay. I'll go on to your next one. Okay, your last one, it says you used to skip school and your dad would drive you from Virginia to New York for Broadway auditions.

• 55:52Speaker 02

  That's right, that's right.

• 55:52Drew Afualo?

  That is, I think that's really cool that your parents were letting you skip school, though.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  It's so weird because they were so supportive, but then they rug pulled. And I'm like, whoa, what the hell, all that money?

• 56:02Drew Afualo?

  They were like, we're not supposed to be doing that, I guess.

• 56:04Speaker 02

  But my tap class, it's like, I, like, truly, I know I sound so butthurt about the fucking tapping, but like, that's a weird thing to be good at now, you know what I mean? And now my mom's like, you should go into criminal justice. Uh, okay, well, now I know how to do a butterfly fucking kick. And that's like, I can't use that, mama, it's like, I don't know, it, they, so yes, they were very, very supportive until they had to pay that-

• 56:23Drew Afualo?

  I thought it was a joke. I thought you were kidding.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I'm like, what do you mean? So, yeah, they're, but now they're very supportive, well, of course. Because like, see, it all worked out in the end, I'm like, okay.

• 56:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, right, before you tried to make me go into criminal justice. What was your plan going into criminal justice?

• 56:39Speaker 02

  I wanted to be a detective.

• 56:42Drew Afualo?

  Just for the pageantry?

• 56:43Speaker 02

  Don't-

• 56:44Drew Afualo?

  For the coat, maybe?

• 56:46Speaker 02

  Well, for the hat, and then also for the pipe.

• 56:48Drew Afualo?

  Magnifying glass.

• 56:49Speaker 02

  I, well, I grew up watching Pink Panther.

• 56:53Speaker 02

  And when I told them that, they're like, you have to be a cop for ten years, you know that, right? I'm like, no, no, no, I, I don't have to be a cop.

• 57:00Drew Afualo?

  No, no, well, Steve Martin didn't have to do that.

• 57:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, and also A-CAB, and then also, no, I don't want to be a cop. Criminal justice, it's not cop class number one.

• 57:08Drew Afualo?

  You're like, I want to be a silly detective, I don't want to be a real one.

• 57:10Speaker 02

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And they're like, no, next semester you have to take a class. It was literally, I was at the very back of the room and they were like, okay, so like prerequisite, you know, for being a detective, ten years of cop being, I guess, and I was like, what?

• 57:24Drew Afualo?

  Of cop stuff.

• 57:25Speaker 02

  And I literally went up, like, oh, you know, down the hundred steps to get to the professor, and I was like, hey, just quick question, like, is everyone needed to like be a cop at like some point? Or like, can we maybe like, like, is there a different route?

• 57:34Drew Afualo?

  Can I audible and maybe do something else?

• 57:36Speaker 02

  The desk for, you know, a couple of years? Um, they're like, no, you have to be a cop, and I was like, I can't.

• 57:41Drew Afualo?

  For ten years?

• 57:42Speaker 02

  I can't, because I'm, then I'll be dead.

• 57:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  Thirty felt far away. I was like, I can't be thirty, I cannot.

• 57:51Drew Afualo?

  I can't be thirty and doing this.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  I won't be able to move, I'll be bedridden.

• 57:54Drew Afualo?

  What if I don't fit in the trench coat at that point?

• 57:56Speaker 02

  Right, I'd be too big.

• 57:59Speaker 02

  I'd be way too big, I'm too tall.

• 58:00Drew Afualo?

  What if the hat doesn't fit?

• 58:01Speaker 02

  The hat will not fit.

• 58:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, god, I can't do this major.

• 58:04Speaker 02

  I don't have a nicotine addiction, the pipe won't work. So, yeah, so I changed to graphic design.

• 58:10Drew Afualo?

  That's good for you.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  Because you don't have to be cop, by the way, for that.

• 58:13Drew Afualo?

  That's true, you don't, and thankfully, thank god for that.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  I get there, re-enroll as a graphic designer, and they're like, okay, so you have to be a cop for ten years.

• 58:19Drew Afualo?

  And so you've been a cop for ten years, I assume?

• 58:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 58:22Drew Afualo?

  Before you get hired here, I assume?

• 58:23Speaker 02

  Right, I'm like, what?

• 58:26Drew Afualo?

  When I, when I was in college and I was like, I wanted to go into journalism, I wanted to do sports journalism.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 58:31Drew Afualo?

  So I wanted to-

• 58:32Speaker 02

  You give that, by the way.

• 58:33Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  You're welcome.

• 58:34Drew Afualo?

  I appreciate that. I wanted to do sports journalism, I think because I grew up an athlete, and then my dad was an athlete for a long time, my parents were both athletes, like, I was like, this, well, this naturally feels like the next step, because I think entertainment didn't feel like an option to me. Like, I was like, well, I feel like they don't hire people who look like me, so I guess I'll go this way.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Right, right, right.

• 58:50Drew Afualo?

  And in my head, I was always thinking, and then I'll be on air, and I'll be so charming and hilarious. They'll be like, let's get this girl her own show. I like literally was thinking, I'm like, oh, they'll probably give me my own sports show, and then I'll be able to do, and then I'll work my way in that way.

• 59:03Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 59:03Drew Afualo?

  And that's kind of what I thought, but then when I got there, I remember when I was working at the NFL, they wanted me to literally like target women. They wanted me to get women more interested in football, they wanted me to like get women to like engage more, because women spend more money than men. And female demographics just pay off more.

• 59:20Speaker 02

  And they're like, we have this idea, and it's a naked Sydney Sweeney on top of a bed.

• 59:24Drew Afualo?

  I'm thinking tits and footballs, thoughts? And then I would go in there, when I tell you I would go into those meetings with the dumbest, like silliest ideas, because I thought that they would be like, this would engage women.

• 59:39Speaker 02

  Right.

• 59:40Drew Afualo?

  You know, because that's what I do now.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Right.

• 59:42Drew Afualo?

  And every time I did, they'd be like, what if we went back to the doggo thing? Like, what if we, they were big fans of like doggo jokes and like golden retrievers and like, whatever the fuck that means, I was like, you're talking about the average woman, right? Not like, not like the worst woman alive, you're talking about the average woman? Okay. Um, and I remember one time, this is when Baby Yoda was huge, um, everybody thought he was adorable and awesome.

• 1:00:06Speaker 02

  Still is in my house.

• 1:00:07Drew Afualo?

  Right, right.

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:00:09Drew Afualo?

  Russell Wilson like changed his profile picture to a picture of him, like, it was like his jersey on Baby Yoda.

• 1:00:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:00:15Drew Afualo?

  Obviously, he's with Sierra.

• 1:00:16Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:00:17Drew Afualo?

  I was like, okay, you know, it'd be hilarious is if I made one of Sierra. And I don't know how to use Photoshop, even though it said I was proficient in the Adobe suite on my resume, I don't know what that means.

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:00:27Drew Afualo?

  I didn't think that meant I knew how to use the programs.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 1:00:30Drew Afualo?

  I just know what the suite is. So then, I'm on Photoshop, I'm teaching myself Photoshop actively, like as I'm working at the NFL. I spend, when I tell you I spent hours photoshopping Baby Yoda with like her jer, like a shirt of hers, like earrings, like hair, like all that stuff. And I was like, oh my god, hilarious. I slack it to my manager, I'm like, hey, I'm thinking I put this as our profile picture and tweet it, and then maybe she'll engage.

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:00:55Drew Afualo?

  Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She goes, I don't understand this, don't charge for this.

• 1:01:01Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:01:01Drew Afualo?

  I spent four hours on that, so on my time card, I was only there for three hours.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Don't pay yourself for this.

• 1:01:08Drew Afualo?

  I don't get this, don't post it, and don't charge for this.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  That's actually insane. That's crazy.

• 1:01:15Drew Afualo?

  And speaking of the Lorax, right?

• 1:01:17Speaker 02

  Were we?

• 1:01:18Drew Afualo?

  The, well, when I look at you.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  Great segue.

• 1:01:21Drew Afualo?

  When I'm looking at you, I'm thinking Lorax. The head coach of the Chiefs looks like the Lorax, like in real life, he looks like him, he's just not orange.

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, he does.

• 1:01:29Drew Afualo?

  He does, Andy Reid. So I, that was another idea, I go, you know, the Lorax, the Lorax is not big at the time, but I'm like, you know, he looks like the Lorax, and I could make the players the trees. And like, he loves the trees, you know what I mean? And so I had this whole pitch to her, and she was like, I don't understand anything you fucking said to me.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  I don't get this. No one will get this?

• 1:01:50Drew Afualo?

  Also, was he like, the internet will love it, like, I was like, women are gonna love, they're gonna think this is so funny. They didn't deserve me there. I was pitching ideas like that constantly, and they were like, this bitch is annoying.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  They didn't see who you were trying to be.

• 1:02:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and honestly, shockingly, it was hard for me to make friends.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  I literally just discovered that too, at, at my big age, where I was like, I don't think I was gonna make it friends.

• 1:02:09Drew Afualo?

  At that, at that company, I was not good at making friends, I, I, and I will say, I'm, like you said, I'm a delight.

• 1:02:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:02:15Drew Afualo?

  I'm a hoot.

• 1:02:16Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:02:16Drew Afualo?

  I'm really easy to get along with. When I was there and I was like, I'm making jokes, like, nobody wanted to be my friend.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  Right, which is like, at what point are we the problem?

• 1:02:26Drew Afualo?

  Really like, and I remember thinking like, that was like the only environment where I felt like nobody really fucked with me at work. So when I would go to lunch and stuff, they had like big cafeterias, like on the work campus that you could go to. Everybody's sitting together and all the lunch ladies were like, hi Drew. Like I'm friends with all the lunch ladies. I'm friends with the security guy.

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  I've always been that my whole life. I was like, you know, invited into, you know, teachers rooms for special lunches and stuff. It's like, they're like, I just want extra time with Ashby. You know what? Let, we have this closet where you can take your test. I'm like, they love me.

• 1:03:01Drew Afualo?

  They're giving me special treatment.

• 1:03:03Speaker 02

  Alright, indoor recess, let's do it again. They fucking could not get enough of me. Can't get away from them.

• 1:03:07Drew Afualo?

  I know, I was, I really at the NFL, that's how I felt. I was like, I should have known, honestly, I should have known it wasn't gonna work out for me because nobody thought I was hilarious there. And everybody finds me hilarious.

• 1:03:16Speaker 02

  Which is funny. I feel like I didn't unlock like a level of funny because at, at my last job, everyone genuinely was so shocked that this happened to me because I never talked. Like I, I learned my lesson. Talking, bad things happen when I talk. People do not laugh when I talk at work. Um, because they're, you know, time and a place. And they're also like all 40 and 50 years old.

• 1:03:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  Um, and so I, I kind of learned and said, this was like a very shocking turn where they're like, what the fuck have you been doing? That's crazy.

• 1:03:43Drew Afualo?

  You're like, yeah, I have a life.

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:03:45Drew Afualo?

  And it's you dressed as Lin-Manuel Miranda. I have a life outside of the shop.

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  What have you been doing? I mean, you didn't give me a raise when you're in. Thank you. Thank you. Have you showed clips before on, on accident?

• 1:03:55Drew Afualo?

  On accident, no. But I will say, literally this happened to me two days ago. I was on FaceTime with my sister and I was, I was bitching to her about something. I don't even remember what it was, but I was in a bad mood. And I was like, and I was like, dude, and then, and I was like ranting to her. Mind you, I just got out of the shower, so I was in a towel. And it was like, my phone was propped up on my bathroom counter. And then I went to go take my towel off, but then I was like, wait, I'm on FaceTime. So then I tilted it up so that you can't see me. And so I took off my towel. I forgot about that fucking face tracking bullshit. They put on FaceTime. They're like, hold on, we're tracking the bush. They're tracking my big fat penis. Like literally, I get on the camera, it tracks down. I'm standing there topless.

• 1:04:34Drew Afualo?

  I'm still talking. My sister goes out of the frame, goes, hey dude. And then I go, I know, I know, I know. I know, I know. I just saw, I just saw.

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  Crazy.

• 1:04:41Drew Afualo?

  Me being, and then she was like, I didn't want to embarrass you, so that's why I got off camera. Oh my, I'm standing, standing there ranting, tits swinging. And then I literally was like, I'm so embarrassed that I can't even remember what I was.

• 1:04:54Drew Afualo?

  I literally shocked myself out of anger. I was like, oh my God, oh my God. Oh my fucking God.

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:05:00Drew Afualo?

  It was horrible. And then live on that call, she taught me how to turn off that face tracking shit.

• 1:05:05Speaker 02

  I didn't even know that was a thing.

• 1:05:07Drew Afualo?

  Girl, that camera is following you everywhere. I tilted it up and it tracked my face, showed my titties.

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  Crazy that I thought your tits were on your face though.

• 1:05:14Drew Afualo?

  Right. I think that the internet is a better place with you in it. And I think it's amazing that you are continuing to lean into what it is that brought you the, the platform, but at the same time that you're, you're growing past it. And you really want to keep, I do think you are so funny and you are so talented. Character work I think is, is rare for women to, especially now online. So I, I think that's amazing and commendable. And I'm so happy that you have a platform.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:05:39Drew Afualo?

  And to kind of wrap us, I would love to know if you have any advice for any aspiring actors or performers in any way? Because you are a performer at the end of the day, you're an entertainer. So if you have any advice for them?

• 1:05:50Speaker 02

  Um, leave people better than how you found them.

• 1:05:54Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  And be nice to yourself. Well, no, I don't do that. So.

• 1:05:58Drew Afualo?

  But you should, and you want, and you're working on it.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  You and I are gonna work on being nicer to ourselves.

• 1:06:04Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  Right. I'm not gonna pull my weight, but I hope you do.

• 1:06:08Drew Afualo?

  So hopefully you'll be carrying most of that water, but.

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  I'm a hypocrite, you know.

• 1:06:12Drew Afualo?

  Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. I fucking love you.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Love you.

• 1:06:15Drew Afualo?

  I'm sorry that we went insane in these costumes. You watching you itch like.

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  Crazy.

• 1:06:23Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming on the show. You're a hoot. And thank you all so much for tuning in to our very first episode for spooky season this year. Thank you so much to the amazing guest, Ashby. Don't forget, we're, for, well, I'll say, for the maybe two people that don't know who you are. Where can everybody find you?

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  At Ashby, A S H B Y.

• 1:06:40Drew Afualo?

  On all platforms, period. Very exciting. Thank you all so much for tuning in. Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream audio on all streaming platforms. Hello? I'm having a stroke, but the video is free and exclusively on our favorite platform, YouTube. Thank you so much to Ashby. Thank you so much to all of you and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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