The Snack: Biebers, Back Hair, and Books for Summer

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: George Clooney's jarring new look Travis Kelce's hairy back Hailey Bieber's Vogue cover + Justin's post Book recs for summer Beef between Chrishell Stause and Emma Hernan Bill and JordOn are engaged!? French President getting smacked by his wife Love is Blind babies and breakups Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Revolve: Get 15% off your first order at http://revolve.com/gge with code GGE. Live Conscious: Get 15% off at https://liveconscious.com with code GGE. Storyworth: Get $10 off their Father's Day sale at storyworth.com/gge. Hungryroot: Get 40% off your first box plus get a free item in every box for life at hungryroot.com/gge with code GGE. Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you subscribe at https://nutrafol.com with code GGE10. Addyi: Learn more at https://addyi.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to the snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Hope everybody had a great Memorial Day weekend.

• 0:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're back.

• 0:15Rayna Greenberg?

  It's Thursday.

• 0:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's almost the weekend. I can't like laugh too hard.

• 0:20Rayna Greenberg?

  She's not really laughing.

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I haven't been laughing.

• 0:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  I survived my gum surgery. They said I was an amazing patient. The periodontist came out as I was leaving to just tell me again. Like, you did so great.

• 0:32Rayna Greenberg?

  What do you think made you so great? Like, I just lay there.

• 0:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  People are really weird about stuff in their mouth. Like, people need like laughing gas at the dentist, which I'm not shaming. Yeah, like, people, I think I was just able to take it.

• 0:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I panic.

• 0:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, people get like really anxious and I, I'm pretty good at getting surgery.

• 0:51Rayna Greenberg?

  You'd think I'm good at getting surgery with three breast reductions.

• 0:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I recover and heal pretty well, but I feel okay today. But my jaw was so swollen. It was so ugly.

• 1:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, you look different.

• 1:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I look like a celebrity that I'm not gonna say because you said it's too mean.

• 1:14Rayna Greenberg?

  With a Jay Leno jaw.

• 1:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stop, Rena. You cannot.

• 1:19Rayna Greenberg?

  You can't laugh.

• 1:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't fully laugh yet.

• 1:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought you'd be super fucked up because I picked you up and you just walked yourself out of, they called me. They were like,

• 1:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Just please come in the building. I mean, I thought you were gonna be like super duper fucked.

• 1:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, it's such a tease because day of surgery is you're still numb right after for another good hour or two and the swelling hasn't started yet. I was like, I'm Gucci. And then I turned into American Dad. Do you know this cartoon?

• 1:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  We'll put a picture on the screen. It's only one side of his face. I don't know if you guys know this cartoon, American Dad has one giant jaw, one side.

• 2:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, it's a big Jay Leno jaw.

• 2:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  But only one side.

• 2:04Rayna Greenberg?

  You did. We should put on the screen. We let us, we let us release the pics.

• 2:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll put it up. Yeah. Cause now I'm past it. I, right. I've never felt so ugly.

• 2:13Rayna Greenberg?

  You look great today.

• 2:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then my fiance called me handsome Squidward.

• 2:17Rayna Greenberg?

  You know that I was like, what kind of nicknames you coming up with?

• 2:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  The American Dad's better.

• 2:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Did he come up with that?

• 2:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's my brother. My brother goes, are you ready for comparisons yet? Like, do you have a good sense of humor about it? I said, let it rip. Cause I FaceTimed with my brother and he's busted out laughing.

• 2:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then I have to tell you something else. Last night, like I could feel that my breath was starting to smell bad. Cause like I can brush, but not all the teeth. Like, yeah, it's tough to brush. I'm doing my best. I was in the shower last night with my fiance, my current fiance. And I go, I go, oh, I really think my breath smells bad. He goes, boy does it.

• 2:55Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys really, you guys have like reached the next step of your relationship. You can like look ugly and smell bad in front of him.

• 3:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he, I was like, why haven't you told me? He was like, why would I tell you?

• 3:05Rayna Greenberg?

  That's so mean to tell somebody.

• 3:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know you're dealing with this and I know why. Why would I tell you? I'm like, babe, I'm all up in your face. You haven't told me the way he said, boy does it.

• 3:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You've just been living free under the false pretense that you smell bad.

• 3:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Napped and drooled on him earlier. He had to change his sweatshirt.

• 3:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause it smelled bad.

• 3:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  My bad breath is all over my sweatshirt.

• 3:28Rayna Greenberg?

  But I've watched a lot of TV and so have you. No, also I brought, I was gonna bring you painkillers. Listen, I know it's not supposed to like drug deal on the side, but I have a lot of narcotics left over from my three breast reductions and the other surgery I got last year.

• 3:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  And they don't give them to you all willy nilly.

• 3:43Rayna Greenberg?

  No, but I have two huge bottles. That'll take them. So I was like, I'll bring you some. And I was like planning on like driving them over to your place. And I went on a date with them in my purse and they were like jiggling around. And he was like, what's, what is that? And I was like, oh, just my bottle of 30 vikes. I gotta drive them to Ashley's later.

• 4:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we'll talk about your dates, probably not Monday or the, with the week after, because we recorded that a little, Monday is a little bit farther out, but. You had one of the worst hangovers of your life. So you were also down and out.

• 4:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Saturday, I'd never left the house. I never left the bed. I didn't do anything.

• 4:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  You were not, okay, something big happened in the company. Raina was not present.

• 4:21Rayna Greenberg?

  This is Monday's problem.

• 4:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But let's talk about our partners and then let's talk about what we watched while we were both really going through it.

• 4:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Uh, new partner. Thanks to Live Conscious. Get 15% off at liveconscious.com with code GGE and Story Worth. Get $10 off their Father's Day sale at storyworth.com slash GGE. And finally, Hungry Root. Get 40% off your first box. Plus get a free item in every box for life at hungryroot.com slash GGE with code GGE.

• 4:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Revolve.

• 4:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thank you to Revolve. We don't play favorites.

• 4:53Rayna Greenberg?

  They're like, just act like you've been here before. Revolve's gonna cancel. We're gonna give them the ick.

• 4:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're like, be fucking cool.

• 5:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 5:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get 15% off your first order at revolve.com slash GGE with code GGE. And Nutriful, get $10 off your first month subscription and free shipping when you subscribe at nutrafol.com with code GG10. And Addy, learn more at addyi.com. I'm gonna fuck this gum graft up from laughing. He's gonna be like, did you laugh excessively? I'm like, sorry about it.

• 5:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I got like jaw lipo and it like totally fucks the muscles in your face. And so your lips can't like turn up on the side. So like, if you guys go back to March recordings of last year, you'll, I'm trying to laugh and my, my lips won't, my, my smile won't go up.

• 5:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's like weird when you're trying to talk really like low key. You're like a hostage.

• 5:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Um, okay. So I never left the bed. I was home a lot this weekend. I'm gonna do a very quick run through. I promised myself because we already did TV shows, but, um, MGK has a new video for Cliche. I watched it 19 times. It's like a spoof on like old like Backstreet Boy videos.

• 5:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, it is? It's like a parody?

• 5:58Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a parody. He's like at the car wash. He's on like a moving truck bed. I mean, it, I can't stop watching it. It's my favorite song. It's the song of the summer.

• 6:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 6:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I watched, I finished Mormon Wise, which I'm-

• 6:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was your show?

• 6:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, oh, as you're talking like she watched a music video.

• 6:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Over.

• 6:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  12 times in a row. Felt like a show.

• 6:16Rayna Greenberg?

  There's like a short blond haired girl, big boobs. She's the dancer. That was, you know.

• 6:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sidney Sweet.

• 6:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, yeah, I watched, um, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which is really just the most toxic behavior I've ever seen. Broken up into segments of women going, mom talk is about female empowerment. Mom talk is about uplifting each other. And I'm like, y'all are terrible to each other. But I can't get enough of it. I'm so into the show. I finished Sirens, which is the new Megan Fahey show with, um.

• 6:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Julianne Moore.

• 6:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Julianne Moore. Um, we both watched it. Phenomenal.

• 6:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't finish it. I'm, I'm DNF on a lot of shows right now. I've, I've never been so much of not finishing. It took a little bit of a turn for me and I just put it away, but I think I'm going to pick it back up at least to watch the finale. You said the finale was insane.

• 7:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I loved it.

• 7:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is like the number one show on Netflix, but.

• 7:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Five episodes and it's sort of like.

• 7:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I watched three, but I'll, I'll finish.

• 7:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It reminds me of Perfect Couple. It's set in like what's supposed to be Nantucket.

• 7:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that it turns crazy.

• 7:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And then there is like a tonal change.

• 7:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 7:13Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys will see it. And then we both watched Friends and Neighbors on Apple TV with Jon Hamm.

• 7:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Friends and Neighbors.

• 7:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I refuse to call it that.

• 7:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It could have had a better title. I just think it should have been called The Neighbors.

• 7:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 7:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Friends. Your Friends and Neighbors.

• 7:28Rayna Greenberg?

  The Neighbors would have been.

• 7:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know that might be a show already, but I was like, this should be called The Neighbors. I mean, I just, I love Jon Hamm so deeply. I'm not telling you anything you don't know. I mean, you're like his biggest fan. Mad Men's your favorite show.

• 7:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Biggest fan of Mad Men. Yeah. Mad Men is a top five for me.

• 7:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jon Hamm is Bad Bunny's biggest fan, which I love. This is like a thing. He's like obsessed with Bad Bunny. I just, I love him so much. Like you were saying, like you root for him when he does bad things. It's really hard. And that's the patriarchy.

• 7:57Rayna Greenberg?

  It is. And like, cause of a woman. So the whole thing is he loses his job at this hedge fund and now he doesn't know how to make money. So he starts robbing his friends and neighbors. And, um, you do root. You're just like, I don't want him to get caught. I want it to be bad to happen. I want him to like keep fucking Olivia Munn and just like.

• 8:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's like ghost. He's the first episode. He really goes through it. All right. We don't want to deep dive on it, but you guys should check it out. I guess your friends and neighbors makes sense now that you said he's robbing his friends and neighbors.

• 8:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. Finale comes out tonight.

• 8:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's tonight?

• 8:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, as we record, no, but as this episode drops, it comes out tonight.

• 8:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thursday? I thought it was a Sunday.

• 8:30Rayna Greenberg?

  The 29th.

• 8:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're right. Okay.

• 8:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Mm hmm.

• 8:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and we both loved overcompensating so much. This is Benito Skinner's based on true life story of him being in the closet and going to college. Mary Beth Barone, who we know and love and has been on the show, and she's his real life best friend and podcast host. She stars in it as his sister and the cast is great and it's just, it's phenomenal. I loved it so much. The roommate, the college roommate.

• 8:58Rayna Greenberg?

  She's my favorite character.

• 8:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  The other co-star, Wally, she plays Carmen. I mean, I love it so much. My bar has been high lately for TV. And again, this is why I'm like DNF. I'm just like, it's not good enough. I'm not finishing. I'll pick up a book or I'll do something else.

• 9:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 9:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  And just really no notes. We love it so much.

• 9:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I was crazy about it. It's just so much, we're so blessed. There's so much good TV out.

• 9:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Hacks has never been better.

• 9:21Rayna Greenberg?

  You do really love Hacks.

• 9:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's my perfect show.

• 9:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 9:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  The first two episodes of the season, I didn't love, but I still liked and I am, I've never loved it more. Best fucking show on television.

• 9:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you guys, tons of summer, tons of summer greatness coming. Uh, do you want to kick it off with the report?

• 9:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're gonna kick it off with, uh, what is your idea? But I'll say it. We're gonna kick it off with a hair report. I am wearing some hair today.

• 9:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, you know what I like to do is.

• 9:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Stick that up under the hat.

• 9:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  When I have a hat, I just, it's just the track, it's just clipped in on the top.

• 9:55Rayna Greenberg?

  You know. No, no, you don't even, I clip it from the top.

• 9:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why? I don't need to hide it. I just clip it on top.

• 10:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I wear a whole hair crown under a hat.

• 10:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Under a hat, when, when we had our Western shows, I just clipped them, I clipped extensions all over, just.

• 10:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Willie nilly clipping them in. I guess why not? Who cares?

• 10:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who cares?

• 10:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it looks great.

• 10:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I had to try to offset the chin today, so I wore some fake hair.

• 10:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 10:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  But the real hair report.

• 10:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Lots happening in the hair world. First of all, George Clooney, I'm watching this interview with him on video. I'm like, is his hair black?

• 10:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, so.

• 10:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Black.

• 10:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was a jump scare and I couldn't figure out why, it took me a minute to be like, he looks like Phil Dunphy from Modern Family. He doesn't look hot. Is he just not hot anymore? Donald Trump, Taylor Swift's not hot anymore. Fucking loser.

• 10:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  What happened here? And then I'm like, it's just that his hair isn't gray.

• 10:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. So he dyed it for a role. He has a

• 10:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Broadway, right?

• 10:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Broadway role. You know, it's so interesting. Women, when they dye their hair, always look better. Men, it's like 100%

• 11:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Depends on where they dye it.

• 11:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess. But like, men that dye their hair darker, like, I love a salt and pepper. You, men get sexier with age.

• 11:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's fucked up.

• 11:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Honestly, like, big hair changes, when Jacob Elordi, was that who it was that grew the beard?

• 11:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 11:17Rayna Greenberg?

  How on, he just got uglier.

• 11:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  100%.

• 11:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Just, I mean, big jumpscare hair changes are kind of crazy to me. And George Clooney has black hair back like in the ER days, right?

• 11:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. They showed all these old photos with this article, we'll put it up on the screen. This People article kind of flashes back and reminisces about his old hair days. Yeah. I just don't think of him like that anymore. He's a silver fox. Like, how did he look older without the gray?

• 11:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause it looks like a midlife crisis haircut.

• 11:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's crazy.

• 11:43Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like the hair equivalent of like buying a red Porsche.

• 11:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  It really is. So it was just, it was such a jumpscare and it did take me a minute to realize why. Like, some, also some men are just meant to be gray hair, white hair, salt and pepper hair. I think my dad, for one.

• 12:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Your dad hitting it out of the park. He looks so hot. I don't want to know him with colored hair.

• 12:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, that's what I'm saying. Like, I, I guess, I mean, my fiance, he started, he talks about this sometimes, like, should he cover his gray in his beard? I think guys feel like a gray beard does. His beard isn't gray. It's got some gray in it.

• 12:20Rayna Greenberg?

  He has the black hair. So you're, everybody has some gray.

• 12:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  The salt and pepper in his hair, do not, I cannot fuck with that.

• 12:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I love men with a little salt and pepper going on.

• 12:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love the look.

• 12:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it. I think it's super hot.

• 12:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  So anyway, George Clooney, just hurry up and get done with that role.

• 12:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And on to, then the next, speaking of hurry up and fix this, Travis Kelce. There's a photo of him that's

• 12:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm sorry, right, I was gonna say, call him by his real name, Big Yeti. They call him Big Yeti.

• 12:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, that's his college nickname, because he's so much hair.

• 12:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Man is

• 12:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Has a nickname because of his hairy back.

• 12:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, he just, nothing has ever like humbled a man to me like this photo. So there's this photo of him. He's living in this like gated community in Florida. Friends of ours live across from him, which is so funny. She's, she, our friend, I won't say who because she asked me not to, but our friend's parents have been texting her like, saw Travis today.

• 13:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Saw Travis's hairy back today.

• 13:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Saw Big Yeti today. Big Yeti. But there's a photo of him that's sort of like outside of a golf club and he's changing outside of his car and he just has the door open. He's obviously changing his shirt. It's just like, it's so humbling to me because you don't really see celebrities standing in a parking lot that like changing their shirt with their hairy back. And it's like, I don't mind hairy back. I like really masculine men with hair. I don't care. It doesn't bother me, but that level of hair is.

• 13:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whatever you want to do with your body hair is your business. I don't care clearly, but we are all allowed to have preferences on what we find attractive and unattractive. And I do not fuck with back hair. Are you kidding me? Women are out here plucking, shaving, waxing, lasering, and you can't handle your back?

• 13:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, who's going to handle it?

• 13:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. Figure it out. I mean, my, I have a friend, she shaves her husband's back.

• 14:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you remember on that?

• 14:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  She nares his back.

• 14:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you remember that date? I went on like a couple of months ago on the third date.

• 14:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, he asked you to dishandle his back. No, I don't care. Like we are having to, you don't have to, whatever you want to do again is your business. Women don't have to do shit, but I have chosen to laser my armpits, to keep my legs shaved, to be in the middle of whatever I'm doing with my pussy. Just whatever. I don't have time to talk about it right now, but you know, like anything on our faces and like men get to keep hair in all those places. They don't, figure your back out.

• 14:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Women are always in training camp for how much we can do to our bodies, how painful it can be, how often we can do body maintenance.

• 14:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  You have to figure out your damn back. I mean, when it starts coming up on the shoulders.

• 14:45Rayna Greenberg?

  The shoulders.

• 14:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  If I run my hands through your back hair. How am I supposed to ever get wet?

• 14:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, but I don't, I don't want to, I would rather that than stubble. I really don't like the feeling of stubble.

• 14:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, like just get a laser or wax it.

• 15:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Laser, yeah.

• 15:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I get it. A guy doesn't want to go through with that, but I, I don't care. I have to pay the price of this.

• 15:09Rayna Greenberg?

  You really glossed over the fact that somebody asked me to shave their back at their apartment on the third day.

• 15:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're right. Yeah, no, I mean, but you, you glossed over when you told me. You just sent me a screenshot between the two of you. I'm like, what's happening here?

• 15:20Rayna Greenberg?

  He was like a little too cavalier and chill about it and it was completely insane. And he, when I said no, he was like, what do you mean?

• 15:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  So my friend that has to do this, has to, you don't have to do whatever, anything you don't want to do. But she did start handling her man's back pretty early on. He's the hair, he's one of the hairiest people I know. He really is. He's a big yeti. You know, I, I get it. Like it is a commitment, but we have to do this shit. You know, I think, I've been thinking about body hair a lot recently, how places that age, men just get to cover it up with hair. The number one thing that ages you is the lower half of your face. As a woman, as a man, whoever, like the jowls, like these lines, men just grow hair over it. I will tell you ladies, you might not have to worry about this yet until you're our age, you will start to look at your knees. You will start to watch your-

• 16:07Rayna Greenberg?

  My fucking knees?

• 16:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  You will start to watch your knees age. A man has never had to think about it!

• 16:12Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy. The way your knees age, I'm just like, can I get surgery for this? And if I do, like, how long do I have to be laid up? Like, can you walk around after knee surgery?

• 16:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  And men will just never see that shit. The parts of my body I'm watching age right now, I'm like, what if I was a man? I would just have hair over them and it's a privileged age and I'm really trying not to obsess over it. But I think about this all the time because I look at my fiance, I'm like, he wouldn't even notice that part of his body. Cause it's covered in fucking hair. So take care of your back. It's the bottom line.

• 16:42Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like, it falls to us anyways. It falls, it's just like, all we're gonna ask of you is to shave your back. And we'll, we have to do that for you too? I'm not asking you to give me my manicure, my microblading, my tweezing.

• 16:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. Or go to the waxing salon or go get laser. That, that part of your body doesn't really hurt.

• 17:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, from laser? Yeah, not at all.

• 17:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's not as sensitive. Your back is, you're good. Man up.

• 17:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Laser. Honestly, Laser Way. Go to Laser Way. I've been going to Laser Way. I love it. That's my plug for Laser Way. I'm three times in. I love it. Every girl I work with there is so phenomenal. And I'm New York and I love it.

• 17:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, go off.

• 17:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Love them. Okay.

• 17:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Justin Bieber and Hailey Bieber and the Vogue cover of it all. So Justin Bieber is crashing out lately. And I sympathize with anyone who is struggling. I mean, he is a child star. Some of his antics lately have felt very Britney-esque at the point of her meltdown. And that's a bigger conversation, but I always feel for these kids. I don't know how these kids, I mean, he's a grown man now. But like, when you're so famous so young, I think the Diddy trial might be re-traumatizing for him. I don't know exactly what he's all been through. People have different speculations on his involvement in any of that. And he was, but he was like with Diddy all through, whatever. He's going through it.

• 18:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know how you could possibly go through the Hollywood machine at that age and become normal. You and I read Jessica Simpson's book and I loved it. And it's a lot of behind the scenes of what these people go through. So yes, to your point, I can't imagine what that does to you psychologically. You could not be normal.

• 18:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And so Hailey Bieber is on the cover of Vogue, his wife. And she does this great interview with Vogue and they do talk about her and Justin's relationship. But he posts on his Instagram, her Vogue cover with an unhinged caption.

• 18:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you want to read it?

• 18:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you want to read it.

• 18:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yo, this is, yo, this-

• 18:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  He has since changed it, by the way.

• 18:38Rayna Greenberg?

  So he posts this and changes it to some emojis after a while, after some blowback. But yo, this reminds me when Hailey and I got into a huge fight. I told Hales that she would never be on the cover of Vogue. Yikes, I know. So mean. So for some reason, because I felt so disrespected, I thought, I gotta get even. I think as we mature, we realize that we're not helping anyone by getting even. We're honestly just prolonging what we really want, which is intimacy and connection. So baby, you already know, but forgive me for saying you wouldn't get the cover because clearly I was sadly mistaken.

• 19:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  You couldn't have sent that as a private text? That is, keep it in the drafts if I've ever heard.

• 19:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, do you think he was like, I'm about to give some dope life advice? Mic drop.

• 19:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have a few thoughts on it. First of all, he didn't, sadly mistaken is the incorrect language. Gladly mistaken.

• 19:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was, I'm bummed that I was, that I was wrong. He said it wrong. Gladly mistaken, could have wrapped it up a little nicer.

• 19:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 19:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know what I'm saying? Unfortunately, I was mistaken.

• 19:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know what I'm saying? Like, I get what he was trying to say. Like, I was wrong and I'm happy I was. But to me, this story didn't ever need to see the light of day. Couples fight, they say mean things they wish they could take back. But if he told this on like a podcast later, sure, okay. It's an insight into your, this famous couple in their life. We all say things we don't mean sometimes in the heat of the moment. It's a learning moment, but it's like, that was his initial response to her getting the cover, was to make it about him and a time he insulted her.

• 20:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's probably like a pretty painful situation between the two of them. And he's saying like, I said this thing to her privately a while ago. So I want to publicly acknowledge that I said it privately and walk it back.

• 20:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, when you think about what went through his head, it was like, Vogue? Oh, I have a thing to share that's about me too. You know, like, it just, again, like, this was a story for a podcast months later. God, I gotta tell you, this crazy thing happened and thank God I was wrong because my wife is that bitch. You know, this and that. And it was just embarrassing and unnecessary.

• 20:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I do just wonder what she thinks privately about this stuff.

• 20:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 20:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it reminds me of like Kim Kardashian and Kanye West when they were married, when they were actually married and he would do some crazy stuff. And she would be between like, do I acknowledge this publicly and back my, or do I back my husband up and not say anything? And yes, the stuff Kanye West has done is so deeply sick and disgusting. And it's not on the same level, I'm not comparing the two. But this is her husband and to not be able to like clap back publicly about this? Because I would be like, this is like the worst troll comment on earth.

• 21:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 21:17Rayna Greenberg?

  This reminds me when I told you that you would never get this opportunity, ha, ha, ha.

• 21:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, like, it's, it's, you're, you've embarrassed me. This, why are you, that's where I draw the line. You're embarrassing me publicly.

• 21:29Rayna Greenberg?

  And now I either have to say nothing, which, what? I don't know how that makes me look, or publicly embarrass you back?

• 21:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 21:35Rayna Greenberg?

  These are my only options?

• 21:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  We live together. We're in the house.

• 21:39Rayna Greenberg?

  You think he was in the other room writing that?

• 21:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, where was he?

• 21:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  In the car? She comes out from the playroom, she's like, babe, what?

• 21:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you not? Do you think she's just like, Justin's gonna just?

• 21:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. I mean, it was, it was, it was a bummer to see and. A lot of the comments were also just like, he hates her. It was, that was tough too. Like, let's not do that. But the comment that I saw that I've been seeing on a lot of other stuff that I love, this is not brand new, but it's basically along the lines of, I pray a love like this never finds me. And I love that.

• 22:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 22:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I saw it on this other podcast. It was a clip that I came across and it was these podcasters and this man telling his wife, he was saying like, I don't let her do this. And people were like, I hope this love never finds me. And it's like, these men saying they don't let their wives do things. That, I don't let you, I don't let you.

• 22:31Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a crazy sentence to me.

• 22:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine saying it?

• 22:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, sometimes I lay in bed and I'm like, it would be really nice to have a partner. And then I think about all the other relationships that I see and I'm like, I would like yours. But I think about other ones and I'm like, over my dead body.

• 22:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  You would never even be with a man like that. If you find yourself saying, I don't let my partner do something, what is happening here?

• 22:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's not, I mean, if somebody ever said to me, you're not allowed, I'd laugh them out of the room. It's so comical to me.

• 22:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Maybe like, I don't let her smoke crack. I try to get her to not steal things. You know, like I'm saying like bad things.

• 23:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't let her talk shit on herself, you know?

• 23:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like, I don't let her, yeah, that, a positive thing. And so all the comments were like, I hope a love like this never finds me. And I'm like, the comments passed the vibe check. And we just have found that to be like a very funny internet comment. Like, when you see couples that you're like, don't want it.

• 23:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Don't want that. I'm all set. I'll be single forever. I don't know. The Justin Bieber, Hailey Bieber, some people say about them publicly, it's so interesting to me, like that she was just a fan that hunted him down. You see that a lot, like, reality TV, like, she just dated him to get on this show. She, it's like, I don't know, I do think you could hook up with somebody or sleep with them and to like, get certain opportunities. I don't think a lot of people are marrying a person because they were a fan. Like, I think it's a really weird thing to say. Also, Hailey Bieber comes from a very famous family. She is a very famous supermodel. She would have been totally fine on her own. And maybe she was a fan. Who isn't a fan of Justin Bieber? It would be insane.

• 24:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everybody's fans.

• 24:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It would be insane to be like, nope, wasn't a fan. Like, I find it flattering.

• 24:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't know why people dig into any sort of how he or she got them. As long as it wasn't with doing stuff illegal or lying or manipulation. But I mean, people, again, you're an adult. You make your own decisions.

• 24:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I find it really weird. You hear this a lot with like Brittany Cartwright and Jax Taylor. She, she just dated him to get on the show. I don't think she dated him, married him, had a kid with him, bought a house with him. I don't think she did all that because she was like a fan of the show.

• 24:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. Oh, and then I, people are saying like, he's jealous of her success. I think she's super successful now, right? With Rode?

• 24:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, she's very successful and I like Rode. I like their lip gloss, like, but I mean, Justin Bieber was pretty successful.

• 24:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's crashing out.

• 24:57Rayna Greenberg?

  He could.

• 24:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she's on the cover of Vogue.

• 24:59Rayna Greenberg?

  He could never make music again until the end of time like Rihanna. And he would still be one of the most famous people alive.

• 25:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm a huge fan and I'm a huge fan of a long career because I find it so impressive. And so, yes, like I really am, but like, he's not looking good and she's on the cover of Vogue. And that dynamic is interesting. I mean, she looks like his caretaker in a lot of the paparazzi photos and videos you see.

• 25:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 25:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we'll see. We're gonna keep our ear to the ground.

• 25:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  You said ear to the ground?

• 25:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Isn't that a saying?

• 25:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think so, yeah.

• 25:29Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, why wouldn't it be like an ear to the wall? Like, you know, you can like put your ear up against a wall and hear through it. Like, why would my ear be on the ground?

• 25:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know.

• 25:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Are boots on the ground?

• 25:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Boots on the ground.

• 25:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Our boots, but that's like, it is ear to the, nose to the grindstone. Why is my nose on the grindstone?

• 25:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  That means like to work hard. Let me look.

• 25:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, keep your ear to the ground means to pay close attention to what's happening around you. Hold on, nose on the grind.

• 25:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Nose to the grindstone.

• 25:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Nose to the grind.

• 26:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Nose to the ground sounded really violent.

• 26:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Nose to the ground does not have a widely established meaning in the English language.

• 26:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hold on, nose. Nose to the grindstone is to force someone to work hard. Keep your nose to the grindstone.

• 26:17Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, let's take a break. Do you know that one?

• 26:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I couldn't remember it was nose on the grindstone.

• 26:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought it was nose to the ground and then I was like, that sounds so violent to me. Why would my nose be on the ground?

• 26:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  For nose to the grindstone, you can also say, keep one shoulder to the wheel. Would you have your shoulder on a wheel?

• 26:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  These are all like old timey. It comes from like working in a mill. That's your history lesson today, guys. Okay, let's talk about our partners and we will get back into it. Revolve. We are wearing top to bottom revolve, literally hat to shoes for me.

• 26:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Hat to shoes?

• 26:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, yes, this hat was a gift. Sorry, it's my fiance's. He gave me one and this is his. So he bought it for himself and now I'm wearing it, but they sell this on the site, this Haegha House hat. My Sambas, they sell Sambas on the site as well. These are some older cargo pants, this tank I love. I mean, every, the belt even, I made sure I was top to bottom today.

• 27:13Rayna Greenberg?

  You're top to bottom. I am wearing these shorts. It might be the most messages I've ever gotten. They're called the Caroline short from Super Down. They're $64. They're cheap.

• 27:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, they're super. Yeah. And then these, the pants are lovers and friends. Like some of these are like revolve specific brands, which we love, Super Down being one of them.

• 27:25Rayna Greenberg?

  They're like probably their biggest brand, but these are long shorts. I'm getting into long shorts right now.

• 27:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cool offs.

• 27:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Is that what they are?

• 27:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're cool offs!

• 27:34Rayna Greenberg?

  And then I was trying to figure out like what to pair them with and I'm getting a lot of like Veronica Beard sandal recommendations. And then also Javiana's, Javiana's, is that how you say it?

• 27:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  The flip flops.

• 27:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Which are all available on Revolve. Revolve's a lot. Flip flops are back, man.

• 27:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Apparently. We were wearing these since spring break in college.

• 27:52Rayna Greenberg?

  They're back.

• 27:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Literally like 25 years ago.

• 27:54Rayna Greenberg?

  They're back.

• 27:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so many different brands, lovers and friends. Like I mentioned, those are my pants are Amanda Uprichard. I live in some Amanda Uprichard. My yellow, I'll put on the screen, my yellow set that I wore to my Miami shows, the tube top with the slacks, like bright, bright butter yellow. It was Amanda Uprichard, Norma Kamali, which we love, A. Goldie, half our jeans, Michael Costello. So this is our whole closet, truly every single thing from hats to accessories, jewelry, tops, bottoms, shoes, socks, literally I have socks.

• 28:26Rayna Greenberg?

  They have lots of collections if you guys want to shop that. So I'm having a festival themed birthday party. I just sent everybody. Everybody was like, what to wear? I'm like, go to Revolve, click the festival collection. That's where you shop.

• 28:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Every single thing. And people are like, where'd you get that Revolve? Just always. And they could not have better. Shipping, two day shipping, the customer service is second to none. They're so responsive. The label is in the box. You get stuff, not that you're going to want to return it, but if you need to, they make it easy. They really, truly care. We have said this for years.

• 28:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it.

• 28:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  The best customer service, the best shopping experience. And again, shop by those collections. So easy shop. Just, you can look so specifically for what you want. You want like, women's tops, tanks, sleeveless, tube top, pants, dress pants, black dress, yellow dress. You sort by color. Like for live shows, we'd be wearing like red, green, yellow, just dresses by color. Sorry, I need to calm down, but we just are obsessed.

• 29:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that's on most websites.

• 29:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. Sort by color?

• 29:22Rayna Greenberg?

  All their collections are phenomenal.

• 29:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really just embarrass me.

• 29:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I think a lot of websites you could filter by color.

• 29:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sadly mistaken.

• 29:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I do it on other websites too.

• 29:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're sadly mistaken.

• 29:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you ever filtered on a website?

• 29:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Over 12. I don't always see color. You see color?

• 29:38Rayna Greenberg?

  A hundo pay on every website.

• 29:40Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 30:22Rayna Greenberg?

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• 30:30Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 30:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't get back to my twenties and I, I don't want to. So if you're in your 40s, if you want to relive your 30s or your 50s to your 40s.

• 30:41Rayna Greenberg?

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• 31:25Rayna Greenberg?

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• 31:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. And Story Worth, it's about that time of year where we are going to talk about Story Worth because of Father's Day. So we have Father's Day coming up and this is the perfect gift you can get for your dad. Shopping for dads, hard to do.

• 32:02Rayna Greenberg?

  No, it's so hard. This is so perfect. I just have been thinking about it for him.

• 32:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. So we have talked about our experience with Story Worth with our dads personally on this podcast a lot. We got this for both of them. So if you want to give your dad something really heartfelt that will make him feel loved, this is Story Worth Memoirs. So basically each week, Story Worth is going to email your loved ones a memory provoking question that you get to help pick. You don't have to. They can do it all automatically, but you can get into the backend and pick the questions. Questions can be like, did you ever get in trouble in school? Oh my God, my dad, just so many stories. My dad was always in trouble. That's where I got it from.

• 32:35Rayna Greenberg?

  My dad just had to pick me up that one time I got, well.

• 32:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you're just.

• 32:40Rayna Greenberg?

  The one time I was at the police station.

• 32:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did he get in trouble is what I'm saying. Like, my dad was bad.

• 32:45Rayna Greenberg?

  No, my dad threw three quarters at me and said, "Take the bus home."

• 32:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God. Love that. How did you decide how many children to have? Talking about milestone birthdays, first jobs, experiences with their parents, so your grandparents, for example, and then they will answer them and then Story Worth compiles them in a book. You will be emailed a copy of their responses as they're submitted, and you'll get to enjoy retelling, their retelling of the stories you already know, or be surprised by stories you've never heard before. I think it's fun to be surprised. And then, again, after that year of doing that, Story Worth compiles your loved one's stories and photos into a beautiful keepsake hardcover book. I can't stress the book enough. I say this every single time we talk about Story Worth, but we're not talking about some, like, picture book that you order off, you know, no shade to those sites, but this is like a real deal book. You're gonna sit down, you're gonna wanna read it. It's super beautiful.

• 33:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Again, it's really a keepsake memoir, and customers love this. They've preserved millions of family stories since their founding over 10 years ago. They have more than 40,000 five-star reviews on TrustPilot. We're just obsessed. I mean, there's no better thing you can get for a parent, a grandparent, but especially your dad this Father's Day. If you don't know what to get him, get him this. And it is the cutest thing, right? And I both said this when we, like, see our dad, like, working on their Story Worth. Like, I looked at my dad's little, like, office room, and he was just, like, typing away. It was just adorable. And your dad typing with one finger.

• 33:57Rayna Greenberg?

  One finger. It's aggressive. Like, he's beating up the keyboard.

• 34:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, this is just a perfect gift. Give the dads in your life a unique heartfelt gift you'll all cherish for years. Story Worth, right now, save $10 during their Father's Day sale when you go to storyworth.com/gge. That is storyworth.com/gge to save $10 on your order.

• 34:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 34:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're gonna go back to Haley, real quick.

• 34:22Rayna Greenberg?

  One second. So, she did the Vogue interview, and then Vogue filmed her doing, like, a "What's in my bag?" And she was so funny. So, she pulls out this moleskine, and it's empty. There's nothing in it. And she's like, "This is where I write all my thoughts."

• 34:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not everyone might know that.

• 34:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, what a moleskine is? I'm just saying. But she, there's nothing in it. And she's like, "I take this everywhere I go. I write down all my thoughts and ideas. I can't go anywhere without it." It's just a blank book. It's hysterical.

• 34:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, the comments had me just questioning society. Like, people didn't know she was kidding.

• 34:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't know she was kidding.

• 34:54Rayna Greenberg?

  It wasn't till I saw the second video.

• 34:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm sorry.

• 34:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Where she's doing book racks and she pulls this Nietzsche book out and she's like, this is my third run through it. And I was like, oh, this isn't serious.

• 35:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but you wouldn't have commented, I don't get it. You would have sent it to me.

• 35:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I quietly sent it to you.

• 35:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Am I being trolled?

• 35:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I quietly sent it to you.

• 35:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  But she's, she's dead serious. I mean, she's a great actress. She's just trolling away in this interview. Here's all my deepest thoughts. I can't leave home without it. It's a blank book. Iconic. So we just love that.

• 35:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I loved it. I like somebody that doesn't take themselves too seriously, a model.

• 35:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  A model. Yeah, exactly.

• 35:30Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, so that sort of brings us to book racks.

• 35:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, also SJP, while we're here, Hailey Bieber says she's read that book three times. Sarah Jessica Parker says she reads two books a day, but she is like preparing to judge something, right? Because this has made headlines, SJP reads two books a day, which if you have time on your hands, it's doable.

• 35:54Rayna Greenberg?

  How long is that book?

• 35:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. But she is preparing for.

• 35:58Rayna Greenberg?

  What do you consider a book?

• 35:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's preparing for something. She's also probably a really fast reader.

• 36:02Rayna Greenberg?

  She, and you also could, I mean, she says read, you could listen to an audio book. I could get through two audio books every day.

• 36:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  How? I don't understand audio books.

• 36:12Rayna Greenberg?

  What do you mean?

• 36:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've never listened to one. I was elite. Raina, I like, I'm, I'm a fast reader, so I'm reading faster than anyone could talk. An audio book must take twice as long to listen to than read.

• 36:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, it's like podcasts. You're listening to it when you don't have the opportunity to read. So long car rides, I listen to audio books.

• 36:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  But my point is, as long as it would take me to read a book, an audio book has to be twice as long because it's pausing for effect, it's being read. I'm reading faster than I talk or anyone talks.

• 36:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, I'm skipping whole chapters.

• 36:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Audio books are beyond my comprehension. And I, this, I know I'm like, not the norm.

• 36:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you read really fast. Like when we have to like read a lot, I'm just like, I should do it.

• 36:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I read a whole book in a day.

• 36:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I do that all the time.

• 36:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't know that.

• 36:54Rayna Greenberg?

  That I read a book in a day all the time? But it takes me like six hours.

• 36:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's a, the commitment.

• 36:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm not like just brazen through this shit. But yeah, Sarah Jessica Parker said she reads two books a day and people are like, um, why? I think she's gonna, she's judging like a book competition or something.

• 37:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  She has.

• 37:09Rayna Greenberg?

  So unlike the Academy Awards people that apparently didn't have to watch movies in full, Sarah Jessica Parker is like, I will read these books in full before I judge it.

• 37:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so we want to do a few book recs for the summer.

• 37:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and there's tons of stuff online. Obviously, we don't tell you guys how to use the internet, but Goodreads has a great summer book rec list. So does Barnes and Noble.

• 37:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  But here's what we've been reading. Just, we'll kick it off, The Wedding People. You guys got to read it. We both read it. We love it. It's one of the hottest books of the spring and summer. It's by Alison S. Bach, and it's a phenomenal read. This woman goes to this hotel, and she's the only person there that's not part of this wedding, and things take a turn, and it's great. We love it. No notes. And then All Fours. I said I was going to review it. I mean, did you finish it? You're in the middle of it?

• 37:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm four chapters in, so she's just left. But basically, this woman is going to go on a road trip to New York and pivots, what, like, within 30 minutes?

• 38:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  30 minutes outside of LA, and she goes to this hotel. And I didn't really know what I was in for. I knew it was going to be kind of this, like, sexual awakening, but I had no idea. I was like, what is she doing? And people have mixed reviews on this book because they don't like her as a protagonist.

• 38:17Rayna Greenberg?

  They don't like root for her.

• 38:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and I think, you know, it's her inner monologue. I think we all have a lot of thoughts that we would never say out loud, you know? So I don't know. It's like honest and raw, and how like marriages can look, and the way people really examine their life. And I'm not saying either way. I don't know. I still am, I go back and forth on her.

• 38:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I really like content. I've really been enjoying content about, like, what happens in that stage of life where you're like, I got all the things. I got the career, the husband, the kid, and like, people are driving towards this, and it's like, now what? And that's what I love about Wedding People. That's what I love about Your Friends and Neighbors. Like, I love this theme of like, okay, well, what now?

• 39:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I read Wedding People right after All Fours, and I kind of kept conflating the two marriages. Like, it was like, I almost needed like a palate cleanser between those two, because those are very different, but about women in this stage of life of like, what am I doing?

• 39:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. After I Do with Taylor Jenkins Reid is one of my favorite books of Hers, I just, I like this concept of like, okay, we got the thing. Now what?

• 39:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So those aren't new books, but we wanted to talk about them. And I just, the book I read in a day while I was down and out with my surgery was called The Friendship Breakup. It's by Annie Catherine. It's not like it's brand new either, but I don't know. You don't see a lot of books about friendship breakups.

• 39:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I think it's great.

• 39:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. It wasn't, I wasn't so obsessed with it. I think I would have done it differently, but like, I couldn't put it down because I, you don't get a lot of that content. And I had to see why her friends were mad at her.

• 39:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it. You and I really loved All The Things I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton. And it also is just sort of about friendships changing and morphing as you get older. And so is her other book, Ghosts? Ghosts?

• 40:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ghosts. Oh my gosh. Anything Dolly Alderton. And then I'm trying to get my fiance to read Good Material, which is from a male point of view, going through a breakup. Anything Dolly Alderton, we've talked to her about her before, but her three books are phenomenal. But yeah, this friendship breakup, I don't know. It's like, then I was reading people's reviews. I was like, I do kind of understand that bad review, but I liked it and I blew through it.

• 40:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Some books also, like not every book has to change my life.

• 40:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 40:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I just want to have like an enjoyable experience while we're here.

• 40:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And I, I found myself getting emotional over it and I, you know, if I'm, I really do, I did enjoy it. I read it in a day.

• 40:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, that's how I feel about like a lot of summer reads. I don't necessarily like Emily Henry books.

• 40:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 40:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, she wrote Happy Place and Funny Story. I like, they didn't change my life, but they're good. They're a good summer read. She has a new book coming out this summer called Great Big Beautiful Life. She really is like the summer read girl.

• 40:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 40:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Ellen Hildebrandt is like the, every book of hers is set in Nantucket. The Hotel Nantucket is great. She wrote The Perfect Couple. I always get Perfect Marriage and Perfect Couple.

• 40:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 40:56Rayna Greenberg?

  That they based the show on. And then she also wrote Five Star Weekend. All great summer reads.

• 41:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Love that. We have two books from former guests and future guests that we wanted to recommend. Maria, Matchmaker Maria, who we've had on the show, Maria Avgatidis. I always botch that, but Ask A Matchmaker. Matchmaker Maria's No Nonsense Guide To Finding Love. I was reading this last night and she's been on the show and she writes this really beautiful thing about us in the book. And like how us having her on the show in 2018 like changed her life. I mean, I was like crying reading it. And so this is a great must read for anyone who wants to find love. And if you've found love, you'll still enjoy it. Who doesn't want to read from a matchmaker?

• 41:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I like her insights. I just, I like the way she looks at the world. I think she's just interesting and like doesn't sugarcoat, sugarcoat, candy coat.

• 41:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sugarco. Yeah, she gives it to you straight.

• 41:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, so I like her content a lot. So that's coming out. And then we have an episode coming up, which we're really excited about with Erin Claire Jones. And she wrote a book about human design theory. And it's about how we make decisions. And her book came out last week. So it's called How Do You Choose: A Human Design Guide For What's Best For You? And that episode will be out in a couple of weeks. So stay tuned for that.

• 42:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  We want you guys to read this before the episode and find what your design, find your category of type of person you are, the way you make decisions. And in her episode, we'll talk all about like career, love, life, friendships, all this stuff. It's really fascinating. If you guys haven't heard of human design, it's gonna like blow your mind.

• 42:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I just love books about like, what bucket do you fit in? What bucket does your parent fit in, your partner, your friends, your business partner? We talked a lot about our business relationships. So I like that a lot.

• 42:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then there's a few coming out this summer. Taylor Jenkins Reid, finally, we've been waiting for this book, which I don't know. I don't, I'm gonna love it because I love all her books, but it doesn't immediately speak to me. But I guess in light of the recent space expedition, this book is called Atmosphere. It comes out June 3rd. An epic new novel set against the backdrop of the 1980s space shuttle program about the extraordinary lengths we go to live and love beyond our limits. You think Katy Perry is gonna read this one?

• 43:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Katy and Gayle, Lauren Sanchez, our astronauts, America's astronauts.

• 43:11Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a real departure from her other books, Daisy Jones and the Six, Malibu Rising, and The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, all some of my favorite books. This is different. I'll read anything she writes.

• 43:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 43:23Rayna Greenberg?

  And then Katie Strino, who's a good friend of ours, we absolutely love her. She's been on the show several times and she has a book coming out on June 24th called Sunny Side Up. A heartwarming and hilarious debut about a 35-year-old recently divorced woman facing the looming prospect of going solo to her little brother's wedding.

• 43:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just that alone, I cannot wait. I mean, this is, you weren't, you went to your little brother's wedding solo. So did I. We weren't like. We had a different experience. But had it been a few years earlier than that, we might have felt different about it.

• 43:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I think a lot of people feel really insecure about that.

• 43:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And Katie Strino, obviously she has a company, Mega Babe, and she is an influencer. And this is her first fiction. This is her first, she has other books, but she's like foraying into fiction. I can't wait to read it.

• 44:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, me too. And she's just, she's smart and sharp and just so funny. I can't get enough of her. So I'm sure her book's gonna be amazing.

• 44:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then Molly Jong Fast has a book coming out called How to Lose Your Mother, June 10. Molly Jong Fast is a journalist, political commentator. I'm obsessed with her content. She has a podcast. I really look to her for a lot of my political news and information and just her takes in general. And this says, "A ferociously honest and disarmingly funny memoir about her elusive mother's encroaching dementia and a reckoning with her complicated childhood." And her mother was like a famous writer too, I believe. But people are really excited about this one. And just in general, Molly Jong Fast is a great person to follow and really read anything she writes. So I'm excited to read that. And that's something a lot of people deal with, like aging parents.

• 44:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, absolutely.

• 44:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like reflecting on your childhood and stuff.

• 44:54Rayna Greenberg?

  So there's a lot of really good content coming out this summer. I don't know, do you like your, do you have an Amazon shop?

• 45:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, on my Instagram.

• 45:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, right. I'm sorry. I don't hold my storefronts like you.

• 45:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It's my whole personality. People ask me for book recs a lot. So on my link tree on my Instagram, you can go to my Amazon, you can see all the books that I buy. And I've organized, at the bottom, there's cookbooks. At the top, there's other things I like, you know? I put it all there. So if you guys are just like, where do I get books? Make sure I get the credit.

• 45:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  And, you know, we should probably start like a book club with you guys. We'll work on it.

• 45:27Rayna Greenberg?

  We will. You guys have asked. We will.

• 45:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everyone's like, get on Goodreads. I'm like, what? What is it? No, I'm sort of on it.

• 45:34Rayna Greenberg?

  You can just go to my link tree on my Instagram.

• 45:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Guys, hit Raina's storefronts. All right, let's just talk-

• 45:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like it's cured my shopping addiction.

• 45:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 45:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm not really shopping that much anymore.

• 45:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, I'm proud of you.

• 45:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you.

• 45:46Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 46:29Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 47:06Rayna Greenberg?

  And your nails.

• 47:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  My nails.

• 47:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Never bad.

• 47:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Look at these. Oh, someone asked me, like, are you going to talk about your nails? Yeah, I did the natural. This is just natural, like gel. My nails are so strong. So this can help with that, too. That's just, you know, a side effect that is just positive in general. You may have heard of Nutriful's hair growth supplements and wondered, do they actually work? It is a fair question. Many hair supplements overpromise and underdeliver, but Nutriful is different. As the number one dermatologist-recommended hair growth supplement brand, it's trusted by over one and a half million people and is clinically tested to deliver real results in just three to six months. So this summer, stop worrying about your hair and start making memories. For a limited time, Nutriful is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to nutrafol.com and enter the promo code GGE10. Find out why Nutriful is the best-selling-

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• 47:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I'm telling you guys about Hungry Root and because summer is coming up, there like really has never been a better time to have somebody else sort of coordinate the grocery shopping and the meals for you guys.

• 48:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Go off.

• 48:09Rayna Greenberg?

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• 48:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you want snacks?

• 48:34Rayna Greenberg?

  You want snacks? I don't know if that's a question, actually.

• 48:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  You order.

• 48:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I have a lot of snacks from Hungry Root. You do?

• 48:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 48:42Rayna Greenberg?

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• 49:26Rayna Greenberg?

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• 49:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Raina, let me ask you a question. How would you feel if you lost your libido?

• 49:39Rayna Greenberg?

  My sex drive, is that like a serious question? I'd never recover.

• 49:42Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 50:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I love that women have this option.

• 50:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Same. You can go learn more at addyi.com. That is A-D-D-Y-I dot com.

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• 51:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Addy. That is A-D-D-Y-I dot com.

• 51:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, you guys have raps, gossip. We're gonna wrap it up with headlines.

• 51:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 51:23Rayna Greenberg?

  So Selling Sunset star Chrishell Stiles reveals rift with co-star Emma Hurnan because of her MAGA boyfriend.

• 51:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was crazy.

• 51:30Rayna Greenberg?

  You just, so here's basically what happened is, somebody wrote on Instagram, "I heard you guys are in a rift. It's all over Reddit. What's the tea?" Like a random stranger. The post was on something about-

• 51:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so something about pride, which obviously Chrishell is in a queer relationship with G Flip and is an ally and an advocate for that community, obviously. And someone A person, my cat is gray is the handle.

• 51:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Just a random person.

• 51:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  But also, do you think sometimes people plant this?

• 51:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 52:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Like, that could be her finsta. She just wanted to write it in a comment. The way that celebrities approach this stuff sometimes, I love to see it, but my cat is gray comments, what's happening with you and Emma? Hot topic on Reddit, which I see Reddit and I'm like, no, you're not getting a response out of me.

• 52:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely. I'm like, what are you doing on Reddit?

• 52:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  But Chrishell popped back and she says, ask her about her MAGA boyfriend who told me pronouns are dumb and that he likes to use the N-word and just can't, I can't with that. Too old to allow that in, but love her from afar. She went nuclear. She just full send. Holy shit.

• 52:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Ask her about her MAGA boyfriend?

• 52:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, you just don't see this very often.

• 52:43Rayna Greenberg?

  You, I mean, would you say you see, you know, Khloe Kardashian does this, but actually, what I was gonna say was that you see it with reality show people and I forget that she's a reality show person at her core. I always forget that that's what they are.

• 52:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're just, they're just messier because they have to be. They're trying to keep the season going. This is why you're gonna tune into next season. You want to see the fallout between them. You want to see is Emma gonna defend this behavior? Emma will come out guns blazing, I'm sure, being like, he never said that.

• 53:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Or maybe she will.

• 53:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tea right there.

• 53:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And I really, I've, I mean, I don't know, half of this could be made up or just for TV, but like, I really do feel for people that have lost a close friend because of a significant other. And it's certainly happened to me. I've had like some pretty bad falling outs with friends. Thankfully, actually mended all of them over the years, but like, bad falling outs over who my friends were dating. And absolutely, politics plays into it and like, you know, the kind of person that your friends pick. And I mean, I couldn't be around it. That would be the end of our friendship if you had this like terrible MAGA partner.

• 53:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 53:45Rayna Greenberg?

  And I'm not saying every single person that is MAGA is terrible. I'm saying a terrible MAGA person.

• 53:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. And like, again, it's a direct insult to your partner. Like, I have, we have a friend and she's in an interracial relationship. And I remember her telling me, like, when we first started being friends, she was with her, I guess, ex-friends now. And like, they said something racist. I mean, her partner is black. I was like, what the fu, like, what is, I mean, I'm glad you showed me who you are.

• 54:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 54:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  But, I mean, people can't keep it in the box. Good, let it fly. Let me cut you out of my life.

• 54:15Rayna Greenberg?

  That'd be the end of our friendship.

• 54:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. All right. I'm gonna let you do the next one. Why?

• 54:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Because it's our Roman Empire?

• 54:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 54:24Rayna Greenberg?

  People are speculating wildly that Bill Belichick is engaged to his girlfriend Jord- Jordaan.

• 54:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm obsessed with the headline, "At least one person knows."

• 54:34Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 54:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wrote it.

• 54:38Rayna Greenberg?

  But people have been

• 54:41Rayna Greenberg?

  But that's what people have been saying, "At least one person has confirmed that Jordaan has been wearing a ring." She's told at least one person. That's what everybody keeps saying.

• 54:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who's this fucking lucky person? Can you imagine knowing that?

• 54:55Rayna Greenberg?

  And then there is a photo of her-

• 54:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  The way I would sell that information for a million fucking dollars.

• 54:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Fuck, yeah.

• 55:02Rayna Greenberg?

  There is a photo of her at Raleigh Durham Airport. She is, she does appear to be wearing an engagement ring.

• 55:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 55:08Rayna Greenberg?

  So, I mean, listen, she's my hero. She's, I mean, there's a lot of women that walked so that I could run, but she is

• 55:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stop it.

• 55:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Jordan is my hero. The way she is manhandling this man.

• 55:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so speaking of women abusing their male partners, the French Prime Minister.

• 55:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's not funny, but the segue was. This was crazy!

• 55:36Rayna Greenberg?

  So if you guys, so the French Prime Minister is standing at the-

• 55:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Emmanuel Macron?

• 55:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, he's standing on whatever the French Air Force One is, whatever that is.

• 55:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 55:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think that him and his wife realized that the plane door was opening and you see just her arm come in and hit him in the face.

• 55:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 55:54Rayna Greenberg?

  And he just snaps right back into it like, "Ha, ha, ha."

• 55:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  When he realizes the fucking door is open. Those flight attendants, you were, you know, they were like, "Oh shit, I'm getting fired." We didn't let Brigitte slap him before we opened the door. They must have been arguing. Like, they, they must have, I mean, you don't just fucking mush somebody like that. Like, it was not, it was like a push in the face.

• 56:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, she, she hit him in the face.

• 56:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like clearly something was happening like why let's let's keep the door shut for a second.

• 56:28Rayna Greenberg?

  You just don't see this.

• 56:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  You don't see that, yeah.

• 56:30Rayna Greenberg?

  From unless it's reality TV people much like Chris Shaw like the and the higher like you don't see this from celebrities and you definitely don't see it from politicians.

• 56:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  From presidents.

• 56:39Rayna Greenberg?

  You think Melania is hitting Donald?

• 56:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, people were like some of the comments I saw obviously on the shade room. The best comment section was like Melania copies everything else. Copy this.

• 56:48Rayna Greenberg?

  She would she's like, I would never touch him.

• 56:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's like, ew, I have to touch him.

• 56:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't be touching him.

• 56:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I would never.

• 56:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you were playing this game last night on speakerphone with my family. How much money would you have to get paid to sleep with Donald Trump?

• 57:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't.

• 57:03Rayna Greenberg?

  The limit does not exist. My Aunt Sherry said a billion dollars.

• 57:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  A billion.

• 57:06Rayna Greenberg?

  A billion. And my uncle, Uncle John said, you would do it for a million. And I was like, I might do it for a hundred thousand.

• 57:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, ew.

• 57:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody was laughing so and I was like.

• 57:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll give you a hundred thousand.

• 57:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I was like, the stuff I've done for free, you guys don't even understand. I really I brought I brought the house down and the family, the family speakerphone shot last night.

• 57:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I I truly couldn't do it. There's no amount.

• 57:28Rayna Greenberg?

  A million dollars?

• 57:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I really would like a million dollars.

• 57:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Start at a billion.

• 57:39Rayna Greenberg?

  A bi I could. How much stuff have you done for free? Think about it.

• 57:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  What do you? What's the point?

• 57:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. I would love a million dollars.

• 57:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not something that gross. I've never fucked a monster for free.

• 57:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I've not that bad, but you know.

• 57:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so.

• 57:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I would it for a hundred thousand, just so you know, just so we're clear. But if the bidding could start, the bidding could start at 500K and I would consider it.

• 58:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ah, okay, so anyway.

• 58:07Rayna Greenberg?

  You have a shopping addiction. Okay, I'm gonna stop interrupting you now.

• 58:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  We have some pregnancies. We have some Love is Blind pregnancies Lauren and Cameron. Our number one couple, the number one couple, the first couple to ever get engaged and get married on the show. Season one.

• 58:22Rayna Greenberg?

  The royalty of the show.

• 58:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  They truly are the royal couple of the show. They announced their pregnancy with a clear blue partnership. You love to see it. I'm sorry, if you were an influencer and you are not getting paid to show your pregnancy test, you're doing it wrong.

• 58:34Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy. What else do we have children for but to monetize their existence through social media?

• 58:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is how you help start paying for their college.

• 58:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Exactly.

• 58:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, um, and you know, you do gotta pay them.

• 58:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Lindsay Hubbard, she started this.

• 58:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did she?

• 58:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Sheena.

• 58:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then Ollie and A.D.

• 58:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, and they just got engaged kind of recently also, and now they did this like beautiful maternity shoot. It's very sweet. And then a breakup I love to see, I don't know if you guys remember this, but um, from the Dallas season, Matt and Colleen, people really thought that relationship seemed a little, I mean unsafe. That he was really verbally aggressive towards her and she seemed really sweet and not sure how to manage it. She seemed visibly a little frightened sometimes. I'm not saying anything was happening behind closed doors.

• 59:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Didn't want to move in with him.

• 59:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 59:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, seemed like scared to want to live with him for like, yeah, safety reasons. That was the vibes.

• 59:23Rayna Greenberg?

  So that was season three and they have also announced their split. So I hope that, you know.

• 59:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  They collabed a statement. I love a breakup collabed Instagram post. I live for it. Father God, just kidding.

• 59:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, it says, hi, everyone. We're sharing this. We've been separated for some time now and have been doing our best. Cause nobody cares that much. You know, they're not that famous.

• 59:45Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I love when people do these like, is it a black square with white writing?

• 59:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  100%.

• 59:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it.

• 59:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  You didn't see this black square?

• 59:54Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I just guessed.

• 59:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  In Jesus' name we pray, Colleen and Matt. Just kidding. They didn't talk about God in that one. So yeah, I mean.

• 1:00:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Remember when Mark Quavis, when he announced his split, his wife was like, what? That was my favorite announcement.

• 1:00:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God.

• 1:00:10Rayna Greenberg?

  His wife was like, this is news to me.

• 1:00:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I live for, I live for a breakup announcement from a Love is Blind cast member.

• 1:00:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 1:00:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:00:17Rayna Greenberg?

  They take that seriously.

• 1:00:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right. Well, that's your snack. Uh, Raina's gonna make me cut something that you will never see the light of day. But it's okay.

• 1:00:25Rayna Greenberg?

  It's for our safety.

• 1:00:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, GirlsGottaEat.com, GirlsGottaEatPodcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, Reina is Reina.Greenberg.

• 1:00:38Rayna Greenberg?

  You have shows this weekend?

• 1:00:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Next weekend.

• 1:00:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, yeah. Where can people see you?

• 1:00:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Pasadena next.

• 1:00:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Love it.

• 1:00:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Come on out. No, everything's like, most shows are like, a lot of the shows are sold out through the rest of the tour.

• 1:00:48Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, well, then we won't talk about it.

• 1:00:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you guys can come see me on tour. Get tickets at ashhess.com. They're not all sold out, so I will be all over. And subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we'll see you Monday.

• 1:00:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good weekend, guys.

• 1:00:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.