Behind the Scenes Minis: Morocco and Bavaria

Tracy and Holly talk about their time visiting Chefchaouen during their Morocco trip. Holly shares her belief that secret societies don't work very well. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:15Holly Frey?

  Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeart Radio.

• 2:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

• 2:28Holly Frey?

  And I'm Holly Frey.

• 2:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  We talked about Saad Al-Hura this week.

• 2:32Holly Frey?

  We sure did.

• 2:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, so this was kind of a long-delayed Morocco episode. I think most of the trips we've gone on for the podcast, I've come home with a lot of ideas for things to talk about. And the thing that I ran into when we went to Morocco was I came home and had ideas for things that it turned out we had already covered on the show, not even in the long past, like episodes that you and I had done together, Holly. There would be, we would hear the tour guide mention a historical figure who sounded really cool, and I would think, okay, that rings the bell a little bit, though, because I, we both jettison things from our memory because...

• 3:15Holly Frey?

  The second I close my computer at the end of the day sometimes.

• 3:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  There's not enough room for all of the things that we're learning for the show all the time.

• 3:23Holly Frey?

  No.

• 3:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  And so I had noted several people and came home and was like, Tracy, you researched and wrote a whole episode about that person like five years ago.

• 3:32Holly Frey?

  Listen, you can only defrag so many times before your brain just stops.

• 3:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  It runs out. It runs out. And I think when I had done the episode that was about the Lisbon earthquake, that was sort of the closest thing to a post-Morocco episode, and it wasn't really about Morocco. Somebody had emailed and said, maybe you could do one on Saad Al-Hura. And at that moment, I thought, I don't think there's enough information.

• 3:59Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 3:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  And it was only some months later that I looked and realized there was newly published work within the last couple of years that was not around back in 2016. And also just some more background things that we have not talked about that much on the show. I, however, am really kicking myself for having not done this before we went to Morocco because I would have gone to the Casbah Museum in Chef Chouen.

• 4:29Holly Frey?

  Yeah, we did have some time to walk around in Chef Chouen.

• 4:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, we had some walking around time. So first, Chef Chouen is beautiful.

• 4:35Holly Frey?

  Oh, breathtaking.

• 4:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Everywhere we stayed in Morocco was beautiful. Chef Chouen was particularly beautiful.

• 4:44Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 4:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  We had an amazing hotel that was outside of the wall of the Medina, but like way up at the top of the hill that overlooked everything. So you could just see the view of the city and all the beautiful blue coloring everywhere. You could hear the call to prayer from multiple mosques at the same time, which was very striking as somebody who has never lived in a predominantly Muslim area. There are also so many stairs. We were unprepared for the number of stairs. So we had gone on a walking tour of the Medina.

• 5:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  And on that walking tour, Patrick saw a piece of art that captivated him. And when we were done with the walking tour, his primary purpose was to find that piece of art again so he could buy it.

• 5:42Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 5:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  First, though, a man told Patrick that he had the best rugs in Morocco, and he could show us where the rugs were made. And Patrick wanted to do that. I was not comfortable with this plan because I had a feeling that we were about to try to be sold some rugs, that we did not have a need for a rug. And so that is what happened. We did have a nice conversation with that person and then left without buying any rugs and then walked all around trying to find this, this gallery where Patrick had seen this art just walking past. And we did find it. Patrick did purchase it.

• 6:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  But by that point, we were very ready to return to the hotel and just chill out.

• 6:34Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  For a little bit because we had been walking and climbing up and down stairs a whole lot. And so I never made it to the museum there at the Casbah. But it was beautiful. The whole trip was beautiful.

• 6:47Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:48Tracy V. Wilson?

  Had a really great time. Mentioned in the episode that Saïta has been in international news.

• 6:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  Basically, the news broke the moment that I finished this outline, I feel like.

• 7:02Holly Frey?

  That's how it always works.

• 7:04Tracy V. Wilson?

  In case you have not heard about this, what happened is that tens of thousands of migrants crossed from Morocco into Saïta. A number of people died trying to make this crossing. And it is unclear what precisely caused that number of people to try to do this all at the same time, as of this moment when we're recording.

• 7:30Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 7:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  There have been a lot of claims about what it...

• 7:35Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 7:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  What the impetus was, but we don't have certainty. Yeah, claims and speculation.

• 7:41Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 7:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  And then also video that I feel like has been circulated in the United States to try to stoke fears of a migrant invasion.

• 7:51Holly Frey?

  Uh huh.

• 7:52Tracy V. Wilson?

  Because that's the time that we're living in. And so it was a little startling to have the name of a place that I found difficult to keep into my mind because the syllables are not in the order that my English-speaking mouth wants them to go in. So almost every time it appeared in the outline, I had a little phonetic pronunciation there so I would remember. And then all of a sudden afterward, it was on the news and I was seeing all these clips in which people were saying it all of the time.

• 8:21Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 8:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  So all of that will be two weeks and some in the past by the time this episode comes out. And who knows what the situation will be or what other conclusions might have been drawn about it by then.

• 8:36Holly Frey?

  Yeah, mysteries.

• 8:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 8:40Holly Frey?

  What did I say? Oh, weddings that are not normal.

• 8:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 8:44Holly Frey?

  So I had an unconventional wedding, big surprise. I got married in an arthouse movie theater in a red dress, and my dad dressed as Santa to give me away. It was very silly. I'm a big fan of absurdity. But we had, at the time, I was working in a university library, and one of our assistants was an exchange student from France. And he very earnestly came up to me at the reception and said, I cannot wait to tell my parents what weddings are like in the US. And I was like, let me stop you there.

• 9:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 9:21Holly Frey?

  My darling, I'm a weirdo. It was very, very funny. Bless him. I was like, no, they're usually not quite like this, but that made me laugh and laugh. The other thing, did I ever tell you the pronunciation of Chef Chauvin?

• 9:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 9:34Holly Frey?

  Breaks my brain.

• 9:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 9:36Holly Frey?

  Because I want to French it up.

• 9:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, sure.

• 9:39Holly Frey?

  I want it to be Chef Schwain.

• 9:42Holly Frey?

  It's not.

• 9:45Holly Frey?

  That's all. I just, but man, what a beautiful city. I also did have a funny, Chef Chauvin, as you said, is a city of stairs. I am a short person.

• 9:57Holly Frey?

  Those stairs are not, you know, standard rise.

• 10:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  No.

• 10:02Holly Frey?

  That getting from where we got, as we went on our walking tour, we kept going lower and lower into the Medina. And I was like, oh, yeah, oh, SpaghettiOs, this is going to be bad. And going back up was so, I felt like I was climbing a mountain. It was hilarious at one point because it is, there are some conservative clutches within that community, right? And my beloved was with me and he was on the stair above me and had reached a hand up and was helping me get up. And a woman, a very elderly, very sweet, I'm presuming, woman came running out of her house to say, we should not be touching each other. And I just wanted to be like, my darling, the other option is that I live with you now.

• 10:48Holly Frey?

  There was such a language barrier. We could not, and she would not have found that funny.

• 10:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 10:52Holly Frey?

  But it was hilarious.

• 10:54Tracy V. Wilson?

  I'm a tall person and I also found the stairs very challenging. And I think I told the story of, we were walking, this was after we had gone back down to the bottom of the Medina to have dinner.

• 11:05Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 11:05Tracy V. Wilson?

  And we were returning to the hotel afterward, which some people did in taxis.

• 11:09Holly Frey?

  I did it in a taxi.

• 11:10Tracy V. Wilson?

  The taxi has to go around the edge of the Medina. It cannot drive through those streets.

• 11:15Holly Frey?

  Was the farthest drive. I did not anticipate the length of that drive.

• 11:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. So Patrick and I and a couple of other people were walking back up and I was, I was finding it challenging. And I arrived at a little landing.

• 11:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  And there was a person who was feeding a group of cats. There are a lot of cats, free roaming cats in Chef Chauvin. And so this person who I could not see, they were, they were inside the open door to what was presumably their home, was feeding these cats. And I stopped and the, and Patrick and the folks ahead of me were like, are you okay? I said, yes, I just have to take a picture of these cats, which I was using both to take a picture of cats and to have a minute to catch my breath. And this person who I could not see from within the house said to the cats, you have to smile.

• 12:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Which I really loved.

• 12:12Holly Frey?

  Yeah. Yeah. When we say some of those stairs are steep, listen, I'm five, three on my very best day with perfect posture. I'm really five, two, but I like to, you know, steal an inch. There were steps where I had to bend my leg. And my, to get to the next step, my knee was above my waistline.

• 12:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 12:36Holly Frey?

  It was arduous, worth it, worth every bit of it.

• 12:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 12:40Holly Frey?

  Cause it is such a spectacular and unique place, but it was very funny. I was just like, whoo.

• 12:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 12:45Holly Frey?

  No wonder everybody here is incredibly fit because they are literally doing the mountain goat dance every day.

• 12:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. I, the, my house, the floor that the bedroom and my office are on is upstairs from where the kitchen is. And the front door. And so I do a lot of up and down the steps.

• 13:07Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 13:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh, and then we also have an attic that's, that the, a prior owner finished and the stairs into the attic are very steep. I do that sometime. That did not prepare me. The all day long up and downstairs at home did not prepare me at all for the steps of Chef Chauvin, which is again, so beautiful.

• 13:24Holly Frey?

  Love, love.

• 13:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  So yeah, kicking myself for not having started, I, it would have been amazing to have started this episode before leaving for Morocco and then finished it afterward because I would have gone on a little fact finding mission while we were in Chef Chauvin.

• 13:40Holly Frey?

  Yeah. Yeah. I've had a few that have been on my list since Morocco. And one of the things that I have run into, because I was taking notes as we went, like when I would talk to tour guides, I would take a lot of notes as we went, but sometimes they, the history information they gave me doesn't always match up with sources that I have found.

• 14:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, sure.

• 14:02Holly Frey?

  And it's hard to know, because that's a local, you know what I mean? Like they know things that other people might not. So it's hard to, to figure out which is the more, I don't want to say valid, because that's not right, but which, which source is the more accurate and which way to lean it? And I just, every time I try it, I end up getting wanted up and I'm like, ah, I'm not going to touch it anymore. So we'll see, we'll see.

• 14:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  We'll see.

• 14:28Holly Frey?

  We'll see.

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• 19:13Holly Frey?

  We talked about Adam Weiselt and the Illuminati this week, which make me laugh probably more than Adam Weiselt would ever want to be laughed at. But yeah, baby, you're a mess is what I would like to say.

• 19:30Holly Frey?

  Honey, get it together. Write a list. It's gonna be okay.

• 19:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, I it's it's not what I expected when you told me what you were working on.

• 19:40Holly Frey?

  What did you expect?

• 19:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  I don't know what I it's I didn't expect it to basically be an academically oriented, at least in theory at the beginning. We're going to encourage learning like that's not.

• 19:56Holly Frey?

  You were expecting mysticism and ritual.

• 19:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  I.

• 20:00Holly Frey?

  Which I think a lot of people would.

• 20:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  I expected some Aleister Crowley stuff.

• 20:04Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 20:05Tracy V. Wilson?

  And it was not that in any way.

• 20:08Holly Frey?

  No, I mean, in fact, like the the more sort of Aleister Crowley-esque things that he read about in the Freemason rituals, he was like, oh,

• 20:19Holly Frey?

  which cracked me up a little bit.

• 20:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  I feel like the most Aleister Crowley part of the episode is that, you know, photocopied, mimeographed, however they did it thing that was written in the 60s. That's the most Aleister Crowley of everything.

• 20:35Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I mean, I do love the idea. I don't love the idea because I think a lot of people have glommed on to things that are fundamentally limiting them in learning actual stuff. But I do love the idea that the real heart of this whole conspiracy is a couple of like, you know, fringe counterculture jokesters from the 60s. Like a couple of hippies, like, let's shake up the world. We'll introduce such cockamamie things that no one will believe them.

• 21:04Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 21:04Holly Frey?

  But they will start to question things because this was published material.

• 21:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, I used to find conspiracy theories a lot more fun than I do now.

• 21:13Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I mean, I understand the appeal of them for sure. And there there is a way in which I do totally get when the world is on fire, when things are unjust and unfair. It is soothing in a way to be like, you know why?

• 21:33Holly Frey?

  Cause forces are working against us.

• 21:37Holly Frey?

  And there are forces working against us. I do believe there are things we don't know about operations of of government and military. But I don't I don't think it's as organized as people want to believe.

• 21:50Tracy V. Wilson?

  No, and I it's there are so many things that are fringe beliefs and and conspiracy theories that have taken over mainstream discourse about things in a way that is really harmful and counterproductive. And that is that's really why I like I never found the ones that seriously affected people's lives to be fun.

• 22:15Holly Frey?

  No.

• 22:16Tracy V. Wilson?

  But it sort of made all of them seem less fun.

• 22:20Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons I kind of wanted to do this one. Like, as I think about how many instances I have encountered throughout my life, but there's been a higher concentration in recent years of people who kind of want almost want to buy into these sorts of ideas. I just want to be like, yo, humans can't do that. They just can't. They can't.

• 22:45Holly Frey?

  They cannot tell me, I mean, every secret group there has ever been has been exposed. Because people go, I don't like you anymore. I'm leaving and I'm telling your secrets. It just is the way of of, you know, the human animal that that.

• 23:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:03Holly Frey?

  It leaks. There's that great, right? If you for my Andor watchers in the crowd, which I hope means everyone, you know, NEMEX manifesto about like the brittleness of of power and how ideas like this can't galvanize, they get leaky. It's it's inherent in the structure of of anything that's trying to like get one up on somebody else. There will always be a a gap.

• 23:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  This is not about our podcast, but does the full text of that manifesto exist or just the portions of it that appear in the show?

• 23:39Holly Frey?

  I have only seen, and I have seen a lot of people write out the text of what appears in the show, some of it pieced together, right? Because we get different pieces of it at different times. But I haven't ever seen anybody put together like a full manifesto.

• 23:53Tracy V. Wilson?

  I was just curious.

• 23:54Holly Frey?

  Yeah, to the best of my knowledge, there isn't one.

• 23:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  For folks who have not watched Andor, there's a manifesto

• 24:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  that I find parts of it that are read on the show very moving.

• 24:06Holly Frey?

  I'm obsessed with that show, as everyone knows.

• 24:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  It's very good.

• 24:11Holly Frey?

  It's transcendent for me. It's just like, it feels like a gift, like the universe went. Like Tony Gilroy was like, you know, you know, who needs a gift? Holly Frey.

• 24:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  Fry needs one.

• 24:19Holly Frey?

  Just get a maker one, but really, no.

• 24:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 24:22Holly Frey?

  But what a gem. Oh, my goodness. What a spectacular, spectacular. Very, if you want escape, but also to be able to process things that we are living through. It's great. But if you are not ready for your entertainment and escape to include processing things that we are living through.

• 24:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right, right.

• 24:39Holly Frey?

  It's a lot.

• 24:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  And that is why I didn't watch the second season for a while because I I was like, I don't think this is, I don't think I'm in the headspace for this at this moment. And then I did watch it eventually, and it was great. I was correct in not watching it earlier than that.

• 24:57Holly Frey?

  It's very, very heavy. Have I ever told you this? It is not meant to sound braggy. It is honestly, to me, hilarious. So because I also have a Star Wars podcast, I will get promo materials for stuff. And sometimes I will get to watch shows in advance because especially in the instance of Andor season two, heading into Celebration, which is the big Star Wars convention in Japan last year, there was going to be a lot of Andor promotion and they gave, you know, podcasters and journalists the entire season before we got there, but the show had not started yet. And one of the hardest and proudest achievements of my life

• 25:40Holly Frey?

  is that while people were like talking about their wild theories about where the show was gonna go, I just sat on my hands.

• 25:47Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, not blabbing. Yeah.

• 25:50Holly Frey?

  Where I wanted to be like, that is not what's gonna happen to that character. But, okay, cool. I love this theory. I love. I never once said that. I was just like, oh, that's an interesting idea.

• 25:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 25:58Holly Frey?

  That was very difficult to sit on, especially because some of the emotional beats are so hard and you can't talk to very many other people about them.

• 26:08Holly Frey?

  Be like, I'm I'm I'm on the struggle bus emotionally. We need to. No, so good.

• 26:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 26:13Holly Frey?

  So good. Anyway, I don't I don't think secret societies work very well.

• 26:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  No.

• 26:19Holly Frey?

  Now, I will tell you the funny coda, which is that I was talking to my beloved about this, as I often do, and he said, that's exactly what the Illuminati would watch. And he was joking, but he's right. Like, that's the out. That's why the concepts like this of conspiracy theories work so well. You cannot disprove them because you can't really prove a negative. You can't prove the nonexistence of a thing because there can always be a a seed of doubt, which is why they're powerful. Anyway, I hope that everybody is engaging in critical thought at all times. I know that's exhausting. I wouldn't do it all the time. Wears me out, but you kind of gotta.

• 27:01Holly Frey?

  I know our our noisy world is a lot to process all the time. I had a similar discussion about this with one of my siblings recently, who was like, I just, I don't want to pay attention to any of that. And I was like, you, you have to. Like, the that is the burden is on you, like, you have to. But that's just, you know, everybody, everybody approaches the world differently. I'm very bossy with my siblings. In any case, if you have days off coming up, I hope that you get to watch whatever show feels great to you. I am not anti escapism. We all need an hour or two here and there to play a game, goof off. Listen, I watch garbage. I watch Bravo TV sometimes, a lot

• 27:42Holly Frey?

  of times. Do whatever makes you feel good and makes you ready to be able to, you know, think critically about the world around you and the things happening in your world and gives you that little valve of relief so that you can go on with your day to day without feeling the weight of it all to a point of collapse. I also hope that you find time to just embrace joy. That's the secret society. Go out there and find joy, even when everything is a mess. You can make some, even in small increments. You know, for me right now, I'm thinking about a delicious mac and cheese that I'm gonna have when we're done. That's gonna be some joy for me today. Whatever you can do to take care of yourself and hopefully take care of others, I'm gonna

• 28:23Holly Frey?

  encourage that. If you have responsibilities where you have to take care of others, maybe, or you gotta take care of work responsibilities, or you gotta do, you know, something that you don't want to, I hope that goes smoothly. It gets done more quickly than you anticipate and that you have a little time to yourself or with people that you love so that you can all embrace joy together. To heavens, we need it. We will be right back here on Monday with a brand new episode. We will also, of course, be here tomorrow, the Saturday classic.

• 28:57Tracy V. Wilson?

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• 29:12Holly Frey?

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