Meet Your Attorney General, Pam Bondi [TEASER]

Was she assembled in a lab by the Heritage Foundation? Summoned from beyond the veil by a MAGA demonologist? Or is she simply an emergent feature of Florida’s political swamp? Learn the history of your very angry Attorney General, Pam Bondi. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support http://fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Alli Rodgers. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Transcriptions of each episode are available at fivefourpod.com http://fivefourpod.com Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social. Our Sponsors: * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  And look, look at this beautiful pirate right here. The Attorney General Pam Bondi. And Ben, was this your idea to bring Governor Scott out? Absolutely. You know, I'm born and raised in Tampa. I've been doing this my entire life and I wanted the governor to see how great Tampa Bay is. This is our proudest tradition and we are so thrilled that we're being invaded by all these crazy pirates today.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this subscriber-only episode of Five to Four, Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael are going deep on Pam Bondi, a dog lover from Tampa currently serving as the nation's top law enforcement officer. If you've been paying attention to the news lately, you've probably heard Attorney General Bondi yelling at members of Congress during a hearing on the Justice Department's handling of the Epstein files.

• 0:45Speaker 00

  You don't tell me. Yeah, oh, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. A lawyer, not even a lawyer.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  During the hearing, Bondi did everything she could to deflect from the actual topic of Epstein's crimes. And in doing so, she told us a lot about the role of the Attorney General in the second Trump administration. The hosts thought this would be a good time to talk about who Pam Bondi is, where she came from, how she got her job, and what her recent congressional testimony says about her allegiance to Donald Trump. This is Five to Four, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court and Pam Bondi suck.

• 1:24Peter Shamshiri?

  Welcome to Five to Four, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have drained our civil rights, like Swarovski Shrek draining my bank account. I'm Peter. I'm here with Rhiannon.

• 1:35Speaker 03

  Hey, everybody.

• 1:37Peter Shamshiri?

  And Michael.

• 1:39Michael Liroff?

  Hi. Yeah, I liked getting a glimpse of Swarovski Shrek off in the background of your of your video.

• 1:47Peter Shamshiri?

  Right next to the photo of me and my wife on our wedding day.

• 1:53Speaker 03

  The wife that's about to divorce you because of Swarovski Shrek?

• 1:57Peter Shamshiri?

  Men can't have hobbies anymore.

• 2:01Speaker 03

  So we need to tell this story and then also just dropping in the text thread that Swarovski Shrek was mentioned on CNN today, like where?

• 2:10Peter Shamshiri?

  Yeah, well, they didn't mention me on CNN. There was like a little bit on some like late, like Saturday night CNN show, a comedy slash news show. They had a bit that was like, which costs more, this many roses or this five inch tall Swarovski Shrek? Obviously some CNN intern saw that I posted about Swarovski Shrek on Blue Sky. And then it went viral and then they they did this bit, but I I was not mentioned, which is obviously offensive. I felt a little bit Kanye Taylor, you know, I made that bitch famous.

• 2:47Michael Liroff?

  Folks, you might be wondering what Swarovski Shrek is, but let me tell you, it's exactly what it sounds like. It's Shrek made from Swarovski.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  It's a Shrek figurine.

• 2:58Peter Shamshiri?

  It's a meticulously crafted crystalline figure of Shrek.

• 3:04Speaker 03

  Five inches tall.

• 3:05Peter Shamshiri?

  Someone on Blue Sky a little bit ago posted like, look at this Swarovski Shrek. Anyone who buys this deserves to have the rest of their money confiscated.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  But also, if you do buy it, give it to me, was the original post. It was like, this is also a very beautiful Shrek figurine.

• 3:23Peter Shamshiri?

  Yeah, and I and I saw it and I thought, could I write this off if I put it in the background of videos?

• 3:30Speaker 03

  Right. We're experimenting with putting some video clips on social media, right, of us podcasting and Peter has struggled with his background.

• 3:39Peter Shamshiri?

  Right.

• 3:39Speaker 03

  He's in a room with a slanted ceiling, you know, what do you put in the background? And so crystal Shrek.

• 3:46Peter Shamshiri?

  Visual interest.

• 3:47Michael Liroff?

  Crystal.

• 3:48Peter Shamshiri?

  Yeah, and I'm gonna be honest, it costs $750.

• 3:54Peter Shamshiri?

  And I went to the Swarovski. I went to the Swarovski store.

• 3:58Michael Liroff?

  In person. You bought this in person. It's incredible.

• 4:01Peter Shamshiri?

  Well, I found out that there's a Swarovski store at a mall nearby. And I was like, well, this is funny. I, I looked up online whether they had it. And it said they didn't. And I was like, oh, I'm just gonna go to the store as like a social media bit.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  Right, for the bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:17Peter Shamshiri?

  And then I walked in the store with my wife, who's not loving this, if I'm being honest. And I'm like, hello, I am here for the Shrek. And they were like, yeah, no, we just got him in. And I was like, oh, fuck.

• 4:34Peter Shamshiri?

  And they like showed it to me. And I was telling you guys about this, but like,

• 4:39Peter Shamshiri?

  these workers did not know what to do with this situation. And neither did I, because I can't be like, I'm not serious, like, I'm gonna buy this, but it's not serious at the same time.

• 4:49Speaker 03

  Right.

• 4:50Peter Shamshiri?

  I'm buying this as a bit, right?

• 4:52Speaker 03

  Right. And these workers who I'm sure like make commission are like, um, you know, we also have donkey.

• 4:57Peter Shamshiri?

  Dude, they kept, they kept pointing to other characters. They kept being like, the puss in boots is also pretty cool, huh?

• 5:06Speaker 05

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