Who Is TraxNYC? | PBD Podcast | 713

Patrick Bet-David sits down with TraxNYC to break down his rise to building one of the most recognizable jewelry brands in America, the hustle and controversies behind it, and how he became a fixture of internet culture through viral moments and high-profile collaborations with figures like MrBeast, Cardi B, Busta Rhymes, Kodak Black, Young M. A, Pauly D, Alex Verdugo, and UFC champion Jon Jones. Most recently, a heated confrontation with George and Freddy Akay of Akay Diamonds sent his latest video viral, once again proving his ability to dominate the cultural conversation where business and controversy collide. ------ Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH TRAXNYC: https://bit.ly/4q8qDCG 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you're watching this in the last week, if you haven't seen this one guy who lost his mind after a guy over a $22,000 deal and this video on Instagram, you have to have not logged on to Instagram to have not seen this video. I don't know how many views it's at right now. The week prior to that, it was about Nick Shirley, but this week, Tracks NYC, Max Sud, posted a video pulling up to this man. Let me see how many views it's at right now, Rob. Can you see it or not?

• 1:01Speaker 01

  Pulling up to George.

• 1:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Pulling up to George.

• 1:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's got now 73 million views. It's been shared 651,000 times. Can we start off with the clip, Rob? Just play the clip first.

• 1:14Speaker 01

  This is the one that he spits in my face.

• 1:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, go to the first one, Rob, not to this one. Go to this one first.

• 1:20Speaker 02

  Where's my [bleep] money, mother [bleep]? Where's my [bleep] money?

• 1:29Speaker 02

  Where's my money? I got this [bleep] bracelet. Where's my [bleep] money? What are you gonna do, [bleep]? What are you gonna [bleep] do?

• 1:40Speaker 01

  That was four years in the making right now.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  You say DPS, I3, 14K?

• 1:44Patrick Bet-David?

  How long have you guys known each other? Huh? How long have you guys known each other?

• 1:48Speaker 01

  Uh, four or five years.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, 64, 47. Thief? You [bleep] thief!

• 1:55Speaker 01

  There is a violence. There is a violence.

• 1:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what he said, there's a violence?

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Fucking idiot.

• 2:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you can pause it right there, Rob. So, first of all, Trax, it's good to have you on.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Thanks, man.

• 2:08Patrick Bet-David?

  We had you, uh, we were at a, what was it, a, a art Basel event at the Soho House, the Minnetonka event that we had a couple of years ago.

• 2:16Speaker 01

  Had me as a fan for many years.

• 2:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And then I, I, I see this, I'm like, what the hell is going on? Now, keep in mind, you know, the, the jewelry, I had no, when people found out you're gonna be on, I had no idea the gold business in New York was this political. The amount of messages I got.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Fans and haters.

• 2:33Speaker 01

  Haters everywhere.

• 2:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you realize, Trax, this, Trax, that's a limit? I wanna know what happened, so...

• 2:38Speaker 01

  They wanna hold me back, these bastards out there, bro.

• 2:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What, so tell us the story. Who is he? Who is George? Who are all the people involved in that conversation?

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, they are, um, you know, they're just the sneakiest people you could ever imagine, right? I moved into this exchange in 2018. And, uh, I, I signed with these landlords, this, uh, Baharian family, that the father or the uncle or whoever, you know, he, there used to be a bank there. They bought the bank, they renovated it into a beautiful exchange. And, uh, the family renovated them. I know the family for years, for like 20 years, 10 years before, whatever. And I'm like, all right, cool. I signed a lease, 2018, I move in, you know, I start doing social media, I start getting popular. And, uh, I fill up the exchange with great neighbors and everything like that.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Covid comes around, and this family, I don't know if they're Turkish or Syrian Turkish, they're Christian or whatever, not that that matters at all, but that's just, people are curious about shit like that. And, um, uh, lo and behold, unbeknownst to anybody, they buy 50% of this exchange.

• 3:51Patrick Bet-David?

  The exchange or the building?

• 3:52Speaker 01

  The exchange.

• 3:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, the building is a co-op, other owners, you know, in the Diamond District, three years have been buying over there, all sorts of characters with their stupid business, uh, uh, you know, mentalities and schemes, constantly some bullshit, always a problem, um, but whatever, it's, it's manageable.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  And they buy into this exchange because you know, I'm there. Right, and I'm bringing in good, solid tenants and I'm bringing in clients steadily. And, but they, when they buy in, they, as landlords, so to speak, they're really partner, ownership partners, not landlords. But then they sneak down into the booth across from mine and they never say that they're partners. Or that they bought into the exchange, they just say they're renting a booth. So I meet them, I say hello. And I start like, you know, treating them like everybody else. And, and I see something's wrong. The father, you know, I ask him to, you know, we're neighbors in an exchange. In a jewelry exchange. I got the windows and you guys got this booth.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  And I go to this father and I'm like, yo, these are old school chains. I could sell them. I could do an ad right now. Do a commercial and he's like, he looks at me like I'm some bum. You know, like asking for some shit.

• 5:07Patrick Bet-David?

  This is five years ago.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I'm like looking at him like, what the, what's wrong with this guy? You know, what is he, what is he talking to me like that for? Then the son is trying to, he's trying to lie to me, sneak a little lie. No, this, that, this, that. And I'm like, I'm seeing that these people are just doing dirty things. I'm like, what is wrong with these people? I just start to ignore them. I don't give a shit about them. Then, a client, you know, takes a picture and then he tags their business. This is again, five years ago. Tags their, I mean, tags, uh, my business with his picture. It says, tracks my C. With the very same picture that dumb bastard you just had in the thumbnail or whatever, George Akai. And I come up to him and I have him, I take my phone.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  And I show him my phone and I'm like, yo, why is your picture, what is this? He grabs the phone out of my hand. This is five years ago. And he's like, and he's holding it like this. He's like, nooo. I'm like, did you just fucking grab my phone?

• 6:08Patrick Bet-David?

  This is five years ago. So you guys have had a feud for years?

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, no, I was, listen, listen. He grabs my phone out of my hand and he's holding it like this, like I'm a, like I'm a child, like, like you can't have this, it's mine, I, I snatched it. I'm like, yo, bro, do you know what you're doing right now? So then I start to beef with them and I start to warn them. I'm like, yo, I'm not the one to play with, bro. And in person, and then it turns out that they reveal that they're the, that they bought in, then they're feuding with the actual landlords. Then they're bringing in their own super, then they're firing a security guard, then they want to close the shop this way.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  They want to close the shop when they leave, not when I, I close at seven, they want to leave at six, they want to close the whole shop. I'm like, yo, get the fuck out of here, man. I didn't sign my lease with you. I don't know who you are. I don't accept you as the landlord coming downstairs and pretending to be another tenant, you know, doing some sneaky garbage. I'm not here for it. I don't, I don't accept it. I don't need it. And I warned them. And I warned them, and I warned them, and I warned them, don't do it, don't say your tracks am I see, don't do this, don't do that. He feels like he, you know, they felt like they bought in and now they own me. They could say their tracks, they could say this. It's like I could come in here and I could say, I'm value tainment and I could take your shit and I could, you know, tomorrow say I'm PBD podcast.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  Just because I'm here, I'm there, just doing extra shit for no fucking reason. So whatever, but you know what? I'm trying to market my business. I'm trying to keep the peace. I'm trying to do whatever I'm supposed to be doing and that's it. New Year's Eve rolls around. I'm happy. I closed out of my record year. Yeah. I am, uh, I sold five million in December.

• 7:55Patrick Bet-David?

  December alone?

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, December alone, five million, you know, we're doing forty million a, a, a year, whatever. I don't even know what it is anymore. I did my record December, record, uh, uh, margins and, and volume and, and so on and so forth. I'm happy. I have my team. I have all my ducks in a row. I don't have any bullshit going on. And then somebody comes up, one of my members of my staff comes up to me, he's like, yo, Max, a customer's looking for you. There's fourteen K, ten K, and this happened and that happened. I'm like, wha- what's going on? And then I go downstairs and the customer's there, uh, desperate and sad on New Year's Eve. And he's like, I bought this, this guy said he's you. I'm like, that, I'm like, I can't take this shit anymore. I'm just about to get, I'm not waiting New Year's Eve.

• 8:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This is New Year's Eve?

• 8:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm not watching it drop, the, the, the ball drop and thinking I can't wait till Monday to confront them. I'm like, you know what, man? We come downstairs, I go inside their booth. Alright, since they're saying they're me, I must be them. I go inside their fucking booth. I give him his twenty-two thou- uh, he spent twenty-one thousand, I give him twenty-two thousand, I said, "You're made whole." That's it. You know, he's finally happy, he's relieved, because he's not, you know what I'm saying, he's a regular dude, I don't know where he got the money. But he's just a regular guy, but, you know, these regular people that make money or get money somehow, they trust me, they believe in me. So they're looking for me. This fucking dickhead says to him,

• 9:26Speaker 01

  um, uh, he shows him a picture of Traxx and YC, "Jewelry," he's like, "Oh, I'm out of stock." "I'm gonna order this later, but I have this for you now," and he tricks him. And he does this nasty, sneaky shit that I warned him not to do five years ago. So I get behind the counter and I go to war.

• 9:44Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the clip, the first one that we showed.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, the first one is the one where I'm right here.

• 9:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But what I'm saying is, when you went to war, that's what you're talking about.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is after I fucking trashed their, uh, their, you know, their scales and all their other shit.

• 9:56Patrick Bet-David?

  This right here. Rob, you wanna play this?

• 9:58Speaker 01

  It's, this is at, yeah, this is where I, with the customer. The receipt from this disgusting company that pretends to be me, says they're Traxx and YC, sells my customer a bracelet, rips him off, and rips him off on the gold. Shit, they're saying it's fourteen-carat gold, well, we're gonna test this bracelet right now. Start the test. Ten-carat gold. So did they say they were Traxx and YC?

• 10:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, he, uh, he tried to portray, um, he tried to sell one of your products, he said that he ran out.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 10:33Speaker 03

  One of your regular.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Came up with a scheme. Right, that you, so that, that we sell, so you came with a picture of Traxx and YC?

• 10:40Speaker 03

  Yep, I opened up the website for him.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  And then he said he ran out, even though he has nothing to fucking do with me, other than to steal my fucking customers all day long. These rats have done this over and over.

• 10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's the customer, twenty-one thousand dollars, you make him whole, twenty-two thousand dollars, you go up to him, you guys have that, uh, uh, issue, then you leave, what happens next?

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Right, well, before this, you could go to the next clip, you just go to the next, but I think it's, it's this one when I made him whole. And that's me fucking your shit up over there. I just had enough.

• 11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I haven't seen this.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is the one.

• 11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So where are, where is George? Are you in a room where George is also in this room?

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Not in, not at this. George is enjoying his New Year's Eve with his dumbass family somewhere.

• 11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Press play, Rob.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  So not only did these fucking pieces of shit.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  This is what started it.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  Okay, uh, rip you off on this fucking thing. It turned out to be nine carat gold, right? You had a check? So, um, uh, they're gonna be giving you, uh, a thousand dollars on top. Here's, uh, twenty-two thousand for your fucking trouble. These fucking bum.

• 11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that them?

• 11:47Speaker 02

  What the fuck, bro?

• 11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's their area.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  People, this, stop being greedy pieces of fucking lying shit! I'm tracks, I want this, coming up with a fucking.

• 12:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's their area, you're doing this to.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's on now.

• 12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  How, so they're seeing this?

• 12:06Speaker 02

  He's fucking scheming, bro!

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was a surprise.

• 12:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What time is this exactly?

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Starry-eyed surprise for these motherfuckers. End of the day on New Year's Eve.

• 12:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But what time?

• 12:15Speaker 01

  Four PM, five PM.

• 12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is four, five, when customers are around?

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, can you pause it real quick?

• 12:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are, where is your shop?

• 12:22Speaker 01

  Right across from where I'm standing.

• 12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So, this way?

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, right across. I might, the, the window's right, just like where the booth is facing, I'm looking at my shop.

• 12:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So all day, you guys are seeing each other?

• 12:33Speaker 01

  I don't see them because I don't sit at my shop. I have a mezzanine and I do my shit. I have a team that runs my store.

• 12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Downstairs, you're upstairs.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm upstairs, I'm running around, I'm doing shit, you know? And I have a team, but I see them as I'm walking in, walking out, walking in, walking out. But, you know, I, and I don't really sit at my shop for that particular reason. I don't wanna see these disgusting, uh, brothers and, and, and, and their, their scheming ways. I just don't wanna be around it, man. I, I'm very fickle when it comes to shit like that, you know what I'm saying? If I don't like a person, I just don't wanna, I don't have it in me. Because I'll lose it, you know? I don't have it in me.

• 13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so they see this clip. This is end of day four, five o'clock.

• 13:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, New Year's Eve, December 31st. What happens next? Do they call you?

• 13:18Speaker 01

  They don't call me, they start trying to call the cops. You know what I'm saying? They start trying to do this, they start trying to do that. You know, the police show up and they realize it's a civil matter. Because I'm refunding a person, they, it's an impersonation. My, when the cops come, my NYPD, uh, you know, my staff tells them, hey, we had to make this customer whole $22,000. This, that, this, that, it's not just a clear-cut situation. So, the NYPD leave. They show up the next day. And, but you know, the heat is already on from this video. And they're thinking, you know, like, let's talk like gentlemen, he says, or so to speak, right? Because he knows that the heat is on, on this shit.

• 13:59Speaker 01

  So, on the January 2nd, I pop out and then you see the events, uh, you know, he's sitting in his booth, this, George.

• 14:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's two days later.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, this is the one you pull up to him.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, which we already played, so, got it. And he's surprised, he's not seen you coming in. You, so by the way, pause right there. Are you on that side?

• 14:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's Tracks NYC.

• 14:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I see it, I see right behind it, okay, now I get it.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  That's my booth.

• 14:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys are literally right next to each other.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  He moved in there to fucking steal customers for years, that's what the fuck he did. They saw I was a successful guy and like vultures, like parasites, man. Like parasites, they moved down there. At first, they didn't even put their name on their booth, so they could just say their Tracks NYC. You know what I'm saying, they're sick. Sick people, bro, they're not regular people. They don't buy a cup of coffee over there, bro. They don't do nothing, they're cheap as hell, you know?

• 14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are they from? You said Turkish or something?

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Turkish, I heard Syria, I heard Turkey, I heard this, I heard that. You know what I'm saying, listen, these are all lines on a map. I've been, met so many amazing Turkish people. I've never, ever, ever seen anybody like this.

• 15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then, what does it say, Rob, where they're from? Does it say anything, or no?

• 15:15Speaker 01

  I'm looking right now.

• 15:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so after that clip, after that clip, that's when...

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Just sitting there trying to steal customers from me and then lying. Nooo. Just that bold-faced lying shit. No, I didn't do it. What? You know, I'm like, yo, you fucking retards. I had enough of that shit in the diamond district. Tell me one bold-faced lie to my face that you didn't do this and you didn't do that. That's what you're gonna get from me every fucking time.

• 15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So now, go back to the last, and the last clip is when it's tipping point.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  That's it. That's when I already hit him and I posted this video and then I come back to him. They're already closing the exchange. They're lowering the gates like the dumbasses.

• 15:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what, January 2nd?

• 16:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is January 2nd.

• 16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is after the spit.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  This is Freddie trying to strangle me. Right, like, you can't really see it here, but you know the guy who has his hand, one hand on my shoulder?

• 16:10Patrick Bet-David?

  The black sweater.

• 16:10Speaker 01

  The other hand he has on a chain like this. And he's twisting it and strangling me with it.

• 16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll go on the Instagram account to show the full clip.

• 16:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So he's trying to strangle you?

• 16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you were just on at the second one.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's the third one.

• 16:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Third one?

• 16:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, right there. No, no, no, my bad.

• 16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That previous one, right?

• 16:33Speaker 01

  This one.

• 16:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was that guy? Who was the guy in the black sweater?

• 16:42Speaker 01

  That's his brother. That's his brother. George and Freddie. The two brothers. You know what I'm saying? He put his hand on my neck right away after his brother spit on me.

• 16:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's there with you?

• 16:53Speaker 01

  My staff came to rescue me. Strangled me with my own chain. Uh, get out of this hospital. TracksNYC.com.

• 17:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I love how at the end you just had to put TracksNYC.com. You're just non-stop with it.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Why not?

• 17:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, no, I respect it. And then, and then the last thing is the clip that we saw of everybody walking out, being arrested, handcuffed. But you weren't handcuffed, so?

• 17:19Speaker 01

  No.

• 17:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Why were you not handcuffed? And is this the one, Rob?

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 17:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead and play this.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  Uh, well, because... The NYPD decided that spitting and strangling, you know, they're looking for bruises, the NYPD. Okay?

• 17:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's you.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, if you were assaulted and you want to catch an assault charge, you put a bruise on somebody, that's an assault. That's what they told me. Okay? If you have markings that they could photograph, so they could, you know, prosecute a case to the judge. Because if you say, "I assaulted you, you assaulted me", and you have no markings, it's a hearsay type bullshit. You know, but if you have markings and they could have pictures of those markings, they could prosecute an assault charge, so that's what they look for. And I'm the only one who had markings, because I got beat the shit out of by everybody.

• 18:09Patrick Bet-David?

  How many of their guys jumped you? What was the total?

• 18:11Speaker 01

  I mean, it was the father.

• 18:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The father is George?

• 18:16Speaker 01

  No, the father is the older man. The father of George. I know George and Freddie look like they're 80 years old, but they have a father that's, you know, he's standing like right next to whatever. That's, these are the two brothers. George and Freddie. Okay, and the third brother. And then they have this hitman over there with the other one here, whoever the fuck he is.

• 18:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Is the father in this picture or no?

• 18:40Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, he was in there somewhere. Yeah, there's the father right there, standing in front. You know what I'm saying? He was doing some kicking and some fucking screaming.

• 18:47Patrick Bet-David?

  The dad was kicking?

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, the dad, all I saw is, you know, everybody's coming. I saw the dad, just like his foot coming out. And then, you know, this idiot threw a scale at my head as well, and I hit one of my employees. It's, you know, we're getting the surveillance footage. You know what I'm saying? There's Marcus, my team member, the other father's over there somewhere. So they're trying to break it up. My staff come take it out, but, you know, I can't breathe. All I could do is pull back on the chain to try to breathe, as this fucking idiot is pulling on my chain over a refund, and all this and all of that. They, listen, man. It's all a bunch of bullshit. These people, you know, all the, it's just, this whole saga is an example of blind greed.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  You know, money is my god. This is what you're looking at, okay? I have money. That's what they came up to me. This fucking dumbass. When I was arguing, you know, years ago with this fucking idiot, um, Freddie. In the middle of the argument. He, you know, I'm talking to him. And he, he shows his watch. He's got a gold Skydweller on. He's like, you know how many of these I have? I'm like, what the fuck difference does that make? That you have to say, I have this, so you could say you're what? More important than me? Cause you have more Skydwellers? Cause I don't have enough Skydwellers in my showcase? You have more, that means you're greater? What is your logic, bro?

• 20:10Speaker 01

  They're all about, you know, I have money, I have money. These are just the lowest, biggest losers. That without the dollar sign, they have nothing. They have no ability to communicate. They have no social skills, no personal skills. All they have is a dollar to go, I have more money. And it's just disgusting. People like that are disgusting.

• 20:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, let me ask you this. This event that took place. Are they in jail? Are they out?

• 20:34Speaker 01

  No, they got out. They got criminal charges, the two brothers. Um, assault charges, but I called the prosecutor and the DA, yo, I'm not here to be strangled. It's still a little hard to swallow over here, bro. I'm not here to be strangled. Like a misdemeanor. You know what I'm saying? I never strangled anybody. With a chain. Yo, I had markings, all I'm, I don't bruise easily, dude. I had markings all around my neck, man. And, uh, you know, like, it should be strangled and pulled on like this. And just, I'm just, I'm just thinking, all right, I know my staff is gonna come through. I got some serious guys on my team. That they're not gonna play around. And they come and they rescue me and, you know, and then they start fighting, brawling over there as well.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  They lost it. They lost it. They got exposed.

• 21:22Patrick Bet-David?

  How many businesses are in there?

• 21:24Speaker 01

  Uh, maybe like a 10, I think, or something like that.

• 21:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So what are the other guys saying about it? Or do they know about the feud between the two of you?

• 21:30Speaker 01

  The other guys all hate them, but they try to kind of, you know, use them as a counterbalance towards me, but they know that's, you know? Because they don't want their rent raised. So they're like, hey, hey, you know, I'll be on your side, you know, you're the partners in here. They're all playing a game, you know? People wanna keep the rent low. They wanna be able to, you know, I pay for the windows. The windows are, you know, uh, altogether like forty grand plus.

• 21:58Patrick Bet-David?

  A month.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay. I'm paying for the windows and I'm bringing customers from around the world, alright? And if you're paying for a booth that's four, five grand a month, per day, that's nothing, okay? You sell a watch a day from some spillover customer mind, you're in the profit, you're good. So their business is to, for me to fill the exchange, pay for the windows, and, you know, get a little something. So they're playing, they're playing, but they don't give a shit about them. The, you know, the Baharian, uh, landlords are good people, and they're, they're easy to do business with, they're normal to do business with, so...

• 22:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Baharian or the Armenian or...

• 22:35Speaker 01

  No, they're Baharian. Baharian Jewish, Baharian Jewish family.

• 22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, Jewish Baharian family, got it.

• 22:39Speaker 01

  And that's fine, and, and we do it, and we pay their rent, and we all get along, and we all say hello in the morning, and we say goodbye, and I take a ring over here, and I take it over there, and I bring a customer here, and we all work as one normal community. It's only those motherfuckers in the middle, uh, that fucked it all up. I was doing events in there, I was doing there. No, no vision, no talent, no nothing. Just let me steal and let me sneak and let me this and that. They deserve everything they're gonna fucking get, those motherfuckers, huh?

• 23:10Patrick Bet-David?

  How much longer you gonna stay in there?

• 23:12Speaker 01

  I'm gonna stay in there indefinitely, you know, because I, I like that place, I like doing business, I have the mezzanine in there as well. I met her off in my own space, um, but I like community, you know what I'm saying? I'm better off in my own space, I gotta buy my own building. But I like the community so far, so I'm just doing it like that, and, and that's it. It's an exchange, you could come, you could take a look, you could, you don't like mine. But don't say you're me. I know the temptation is there when the customer's there going, "Are you Traxx?" "Yeah, I'm Traxx." You, you're not Traxx, man. Don't say you're fucking me. You greedy retarded bastards, bro, and you think you're gonna get away with it. And there was other sneaky bastards, you know, doing sneaky shit.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  But I let it slide. I let them correct their ways. I don't want to destroy their business. You know what I'm saying? Because then they're gonna hurt, and then they're gonna cry. You know? So I'd rather sit here and, you know, take, lose a little bite than cut them into two, into pieces. And I do that to some of the people, the bribes, and they know who they are. The slobs, coming up with a bribe, laughing, thinking you're smart. You're not smarter than me, bro. I see what you're doing. You fucking, whatever.

• 24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. So it's funny because you're, you're, you seem like you don't want to be there, but you also don't want to leave. It's like you love the game. It is, it, what is the profile of somebody that makes it? On Forty Seventh, in the district, what is the profile of a good businessman that makes it? Do you have to be feisty? Do you have to have a little bit of an edge?

• 24:43Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, you gotta have something going on, man. I mean, the people that made it, the sad thing is, the people that have been successful for years in that business are some of the most ruthless people ever.

• 24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  In jewelry?

• 24:59Speaker 01

  That are, period. They don't, they're just ruthless, okay? When they're giving out credit, or who they could rip off, or whatever point of leverage that they could squeeze, they squeeze on it. Each time, every time, one hundred percent of the time, okay? Wherever they could lie to you, they lied to you. Whatever they could fool you, they fool you. And, uh, those are the people that have been successful, but it's, it turned it into a disgusting business that way. When I was a kid, and I showed up there when I was eighteen, nineteen years old, the people there were just disgusting. The way they treated one another and whatever, but I'm-

• 25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's about twenty years ago.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who did you work for at first?

• 25:36Speaker 01

  I didn't work for anybody. Um, uh, I just started photographing jewelry and putting it up on eBay. And then selling it and then buying it from Canal Street.

• 25:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You buy yourself or with a partner?

• 25:48Speaker 01

  By myself.

• 25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Right, I hired my friends that, you know, the drug addicts that I used to have for friends, I hired.

• 25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Back in the days.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Back in the day.

• 25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And then slowly you build yourself up.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, and slowly I learned, well, I was building myself up pretty quickly, then I had to take a back step because I was a young dude. I got overwhelmed and I made mistakes, you know, I was eighteen, nineteen. And it took a long time to correct them, but now I have the wisdom to do what I need to do. I know what.

• 26:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What did you do?

• 26:18Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 26:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What mistakes were there?

• 26:19Speaker 01

  What mistakes? Um, well, you know, I lost some of my key people because I ruined their relationship, right? And then I had to backtrack for a long time. The real mistake was my prices were too low, my profits weren't high enough. I believed too many people that were disgusting, like my other landlord, and they were all using it, taking advantage of me. You know, and I was just doing stupid business decisions that didn't make, that didn't make sense. And then, you know, I started watching Warren Buffett and I learned what business is with one thing that he said that really changed everything for me, okay? He bought a windmill company. Windmill company was failing.

• 27:01Speaker 01

  You know, and they were doing all sorts of shit, building windmills, doing this, doing that. And how did he turn it around? How did he turn it around? Well, he stopped producing windmills, which were a loss in production. And then he raised the price on certain key repair components. And then it was in the green. So you cut down the production of things that are at a loss. Stop selling things that are giving you a headache. And just focus on what makes money and increase the price on that, and that's it. Keep your business profitable and in the green. So here's an example for my business. I would have, you know, a ten-carat chain that's very light, but it would snap very easy.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  So don't sell it. That's it. You know, you don't need a chain that snaps and then the customer's returning in two weeks, or they think it's bigger, they think it's this, they think it's that. If it's a headache, raise the price and forget it. Just keep your business profitable. Stop trying to please everybody and get every sale. That's not business. Okay? Volume is not business. Profit is business. Keep your profits high on things you could sell. Keep your expenses low. Profit's high. And then when you know to make a move forward, you make a move forward. I was making moves forward out of a self-esteem. I'm an immigrant from Azerbaijan. I landed in America in 1993 with my parents. They didn't know anything about business. Okay? I opened up my business 11 years later in 2004. I didn't even know if I could have a business.

• 28:29Speaker 01

  I didn't even know if I could be successful. So I had one foot in, one foot out. But that's, it's not about how you feel. Business don't give a shit how you feel, whether you feel confident or you doubt yourself. Business cares about your profit, margin, what you're selling, and the principles behind business. And that is something I had to wake up and learn. That all these stupid feelings from Azerbaijan and the Soviet Union don't mean anything. What means something is the product, the customer, profit, margin, and things like that.

• 29:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's funny because like I was telling you pre-going live, the moment we announced you're gonna be on, I started getting messages. FYI, some people are watching this. Trax is on Manect as well if you want to go find him. The only thing is on Manect, you're, you can't find him under Trax. You gotta look up Mak Sud. M-A-K-S-U-D. Agadjani. A-G-A-D-J-A-N-I. And you can ask him any question. Practically anything. I would probably be asking questions saying, "What do you think about this?" Just for a second opinion. But when we announced that you're gonna be coming on, next thing you know, I'm getting messages. "I cannot believe this. Do you know what he did? Do you know who he is? This is happening to him?" I want... There was some, one guy named Joseph said he used to be in business with you. Kawari Akari.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I don't know. He says he's the one, he and him did eBay stuff together and all this stuff.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, he is the, he used to be in ninth grade. I can't believe, you got him off on Manect.

• 29:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Manect, yeah.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  He was in ninth grade, we were in a class together. This fucking guy, bro. He keeps thinking he started me and he did this, he did that. His father was a jeweler. I was working on Canal. And then, um, he hired, I hired him. All right? You know, his father was a jeweler. I went over there. And, you know, God rest his soul, his father passed. And um, you know, I saw how to size a ring for the first time.

• 30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So he's three years younger than you?

• 30:17Speaker 01

  No, no, we were at the same age.

• 30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Ninth grade.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  Ninth grade, we were together and then um, we graduated, I started my business and then he's like, yo, you started. I saw him on Canal Street. You started the business, yo. And then um, we go.

• 30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how he speaks.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  That's how he speaks. You know, I started you. And then um, you know, we go over there and I see, you know, he shows me, his father's a jeweler, how to size a ring. He teaches me a thing or two. And introduces me to a couple of people on the block. I'm like, cool. You know, I'll um, I'll hire you. You know, and this is my business, I'm starting it, but I'll work with you and if you do well, you know, I'll cut you a piece or I'll get you this and get you that. And all of a sudden in his head, he's a partner, he's an owner, he's this for the rest of his fucking life. It's an ego trip, man. These people are crazy, okay? And you know, you're getting these haters popping out and saying, do you know this, do you know that? They don't want me to be successful being an honest person. Cause they went the path of the scumbag.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  And they wanna stick to that path because they believe that's the way the world really works. And when they see an honest person being successful, it puts their whole philosophy in doubt. So they want me to fail. You know, because I'm actually doing actual business, I'm changing the way the business is. And they wanna see me fall because of that. You know what I'm saying? And that bothers me, but it's okay because I'm ready for it. Just like I was ready for it with those fucking stupid ass Akai brothers. There's a lot of people circling around. You know, like hyenas. Trying to take a bite here, a bite there, but once you get one and you get to grizzle them. And then they limp away, half dead. Then the rest of them know.

• 31:52Patrick Bet-David?

  In, in the space you're in, but by the way, you said your background Azerbaijan, Baku. Is it true it's half Jewish, half Muslim?

• 31:59Speaker 01

  Yes. Well, my mother's Jewish. I was raised Jewish. Uh, you know, my dad never told me anything about the religion. But then I found the Quran in the house. You know, when I was 15. And I'm like. Oh, I guess so. Are you Muslim dad? And he said, yeah.

• 32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You found out the first time he was Muslim at fifteen?

• 32:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 32:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Your parents are still together?

• 32:18Speaker 01

  Uh, they're not together anymore, but they separated like when I was twenty-five.

• 32:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So they were together for twenty-five some years?

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe even a little longer?

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, like thirty.

• 32:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Jewish and Muslim?

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  How did that happen?

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Well, you know, the Soviet Union, it wasn't very a religious state, you know? So religion didn't play a factor back then. You were just all communist, I guess.

• 32:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So communism was above religion?

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

• 32:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. So, so, I mean, genetic-wise, that's like perfect to get into jewelry, no?

• 32:45Speaker 01

  I suppose so. I mean, I'm happy with it, you know, because it gives me an open-minded perspective on faith, you know, whether it's Christianity or anything, and that's it. You know, I mean, my sister, I shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna say it anyway because it bothered me. My sister's like, "Don't say you're half-Muslim because, you know, because she's an Orthodox Jewish." And the people in her area, you know, "Muslim is like a terrorist, ah." I'm like, "I don't give a shit what they think." You know what I'm saying? Like, some of these Orthodox people, they're like, "Muslim, they're scared." You know what I'm saying? Or like, I'm like, "That's disgusting. That's disgusting behavior." You know what I'm saying? Judging a person because you're scared of what they, what they look like or what their name is. All these fucking labels. Listen, man.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  These are all lines on a map, and I get a lot of that. "Oh, I'm Armenian, or I'm Georgian, or I'm this, or I'm that, or I'm here." Or someone messaged me in a DM, and you know, "Don't be blaming us for genocide and da-da-da-da-da." I'm like, "Just shut the fuck up, okay? All right? These are all lines on the map. Your great-grandfather could have been from, you know, another place, and you don't know it. You don't know where these people from and who they, you know, got together with, hooked up with three hundred years ago on what line or what border. It's all in your head." You know what I'm saying? This is bullshit.

• 34:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So with this event that took place, the event that took place at New Year's Eve and then the January 2nd, did you notice traffic being up?

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Hell yeah.

• 34:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you notice people just coming in just to see you guys?

• 34:19Speaker 01

  I got a year's worth of marketing in a weekend.

• 34:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, before that, I had on my, before that on my Instagram, I had a hundred million views in thirty days. Because I was doing a lot of videos and shit like that.

• 34:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred million in thirty days on Instagram.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  Before.

• 34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is not bad.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  Yes, now it's three hundred and twenty million.

• 34:39Patrick Bet-David?

  In a week.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  Uh, in a, yeah, in the thirty day trailing, whatever.

• 34:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  Okay, so now I'm up to like three hundred and twenty million views. And then I'm, uh, you know, they're probably gonna be the same thing on YouTube and things like that, you know? So that's a lot of views and that's a lot of business and that was a big boost. Thanks, George. And Fred.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Thanks for ripping me off and strangling me, man. It all worked out. Not for you guys though. So the next thing is, you know what I'm saying? Uh, I'm not here to be spat upon and strangled by these motherfuckers. Uh, excuse my language. Um, for nothing, okay? I need to get restitution and I'm not gonna keep a penny of it. I'm gonna give it to my family, my staff and the people in New York and like, throw the money in the air or some, whatever.

• 35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So you are gonna seek restitution?

• 35:26Speaker 01

  Bradford Cohen. You know, he reached out to me as a client of mine, a serious attorney. And, um, he decided to take the case, so whatever Bradford could do, uh, as what's fair restitution for, uh, for me and my staff. For, my staff comes to work to sell jewelry. They don't come to work to rescue me for murder, bro.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  They're not coming to me to deal with them to begin with, stealing clients and all that other stuff. They keep coming to me and they're like, yo, this is happening, this is happening. I'm like, yo, man. Talking about it and these bastards are like, yeah, let's talk now that I put the heat on him. He comes up to me, let's talk like gentlemen, just the biggest hypocrite. Ready to say anything when it's now it's time to talk like a gentleman. For four years, I warned you. I don't need to talk to you about anything. I'm telling you, don't do it. These are the consequences. I'm not here to go back and forth and play with you. Play your game and I don't advise anybody plays that game. Cause some of these people and it's that Middle Eastern mentality. Ah, no, no.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Those people need to be beat down, okay? Not physically, so to speak, but um, uh, metaphorically speaking, it's in the disgusting aspect of the culture. No, this is this and this and that and here. That's why the Middle East isn't a, is a shithole, as Trump would say. You know what I'm saying? Cause people playing too much, man.

• 36:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the worst event that's happened there? I mean, has there been any, has anyone died? Has there been any massive crimes that has happened in that district? I mean, if you're telling me spitting on someone's face, you know, when, when you see that video.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was pretty much the worst. I mean, that doesn't happen, you know, listen, everything revolves around money. Nobody there gives a shit about anybody, you know, they all want the money. And that's the, I mean, you know, brawls happen all the time. Okay, it's either a robbery or it could be a brawl over something because somebody is just blatantly stealing or, you know, give me my shit and people raise their voice. But no one is as low as this dumbass bastard right here. Spitting in my face and then running away behind the counter.

• 37:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, that's a horrible look.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that is the lowest of, and talking shit. And then his brother is like.

• 37:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what it is?

• 37:50Speaker 01

  Watch his brother's hand as he puts it on my neck right there. Like, when did you start to play that?

• 37:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Play, press play?

• 37:56Speaker 01

  And I start to move, right there, he, he has his hand on my neck, you see that?

• 38:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, don't put your fucking hand on my neck, bro.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  This dumbass bastard Fred, you put your hand on my neck? That's why I slapped him right across his face. His brother spits on me and he pushes me. They think they own you. We're the landlord, so we own you. Yeah, you own me, you fucking dumb motherf- I'm sorry to lose my temper over here, bro. But you know what I'm saying? The notion, uh, uh, uh, uh, and you're not a landlord, bro. You bought into an exchange, collect your portion and get the hell out of there, bro. You're banned. They're walking out in handcuffs, these stupid bastards. The father and the two sons. And then he turns to me, he's like, this fucking idiot Fred. And he turns to me and he goes, eviction is coming. First and foremost, yeah. How many years are you in America? You can't speak English, bro.

• 38:51Speaker 01

  Your father don't speak no fucking English, dude. My father speaks English. He's walking out in handcuffs. Eviction is coming. Eviction is coming, bro. You don't own any fucking thing, dude. You bought 50% in, you're not an operating partner, bro. You're an idiot. You're an idiot, bro. You should've gave her a refund, you dumb bastard. You're walking around in handcuffs. Shout out to the NYPD. Smiling.

• 39:23Patrick Bet-David?

  But what I'm saying is, if a guy does that to anybody, I would never do business with a guy like that. I don't know the guy, I don't- The first time I'm learning about him, his name is George and the brother Fred.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I would never do business with some- That has gotta be the wor- And by the way, is that last guy that's being walked at the father?

• 39:41Speaker 01

  I never did that in my fucking life, yeah.

• 39:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Is the last guy that walked out?

• 39:44Speaker 01

  That's the father, that's the fucking father with the-

• 39:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the 42-year-old brother, that's Fred.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And then that's the father.

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 39:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it, so exchange.

• 39:54Speaker 01

  The father's the raised, one who raised his kids. Someone translate this shit to the father, so you know what the fuck to do.

• 40:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, uh, uh, the, the spitting part is what got to me. I'm like, uh, it, it, too, too much out of control.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro.

• 40:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That, that's the ultimate insult.

• 40:12Speaker 01

  Listen, I'm paying forty thousand dollars a month just for the windows, plus more for my mezzanine. Okay, you're talking about I'm a tenant that's paying over fifty, the close to sixty thousand dollars a month, right? Okay, sixty thousand dollars a month, not a, not, not a little amount of money. I ride an electric scooter to work, okay? Cause I like to go through the traffic or whatever. A standing scooter, a fast one or whatever.

• 40:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Literally, that's what you.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  I mean, that's what I, in the summertime, that's what I do, okay? Now I drive or whatever in the car, cause it's cold. But I like to ride in the summer because I like to get the exercise, you know, from Queens or whatever. I just like it. Alright, I don't need to impress anybody. I get there, I leave my scooter in front of my shop, you know? It's mine, my shop, my window. He's telling me, you gotta move it, this, that, you know, doesn't like the way it looks, here, there. It's my window, bro. I'm paying sixty thousand dollars a month, I can't leave my scooter out front, bro? You wanna lose a tenant, I'm the tenant. I'm the one bringing the customers from around the world. I'm the creative person, you're the fucking bum, saving every penny and not spending it since nineteen seventy-two,

• 41:18Speaker 01

  who still can't speak English, that's you. I'm a person who's fucking building a business since eighteen years old in a creative way, not fucking anybody over, not stealing anybody's ideas, hiring young, diverse fucking people, doing the right thing, bro. I'm putting a scooter out front, you're telling me what to do? When your sons are stealing my customers, man, this is what you get. You know what I'm saying? People could have it correct for a long time in life and then shit catches up, right? You don't wanna be like Diddy when you're fifty or whatever. You could have it all going well, money and all the sky dwellers you could imagine, and then your end looks like this. You gotta do it correct, man, come on, bro.

• 42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So, talking about Diddy, uh, I, I see some of the guys you've done business with over the years. Um, let me see if I see, is that on the site?

• 42:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:08Patrick Bet-David?

  These are all the people that have been-

• 42:09Speaker 01

  On the homepage, right there.

• 42:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back to the homepage, Rob?

• 42:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. So Paulie D, Mr. Beast does a lot of business with us.

• 42:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. Beast?

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's the best. I mean, Mr. Beast is another fucking level.

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me why?

• 42:21Speaker 01

  Why? Um, I'm on-

• 42:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You made the diamond, uh, the YouTube channel thing for him, or something like that?

• 42:27Speaker 01

  Nah, I made, I make his gold, the gold medals for his Olympics and all his other-

• 42:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, there it is, Mr. You made the gold medal-

• 42:32Speaker 01

  And he wires over the money, man, and we're gonna do a video soon. He wires over the money for the gold. And, you know, he's not playing around. He gets the real gold. If he's saying he's giving out a hundred thousand dollars worth of gold, he's giving out a hundred thousand dollars worth of gold on a gold medal. And it's like two seconds in a video, for two seconds in a video, we're making him a gold medal. Check this out. He bought a hu- a hundred thousand dollar gold medal. He bought a hundred thousand dollar gold medal. Um, uh, he used it for the video. The customer didn't want the gold medal, so they gave the customer the hundred thousand. I got the gold medal back, and now the gold medal, since the gold price went up, is now one thirty. So I got an extra thirty thousand dollars out of it, bro. So that's Mr. Beast, bro. That's a different level, man. You know, a bunch of people-

• 43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Easy to deal with?

• 43:17Speaker 01

  The best. Listen, bro, this is the best that America has to offer.

• 43:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. Beast?

• 43:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's the best America has to offer.

• 43:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me ask you, out of all the people you do business with, who is tough to get payments of? Is it athletes? Is it MBA? Is it MLB? Is it rappers?

• 43:30Speaker 01

  Well, hold on. There's nothing worse than the rap culture or the rap client. I don't give a fuck. Okay? If you're a rapper and you don't wanna do business, or you don't this, take your money and shove it up your fucking ass. Straight out. Okay? I don't need to be told, ah, ah, ah, they like to get ripped off, they like to get duped. I'm not into duping business. The athletes are great. Business people are the best, right? You're the best client anybody could want. Cause you're smart and you have money. You know, you, this is what you want. You wanna buy a motorcycle, you wanna buy some shit, you wire the money, you want your product, goodnight, goodbye. They wanna be told, they wanna be this, VVS, they wanna go, ah, ah, ah, they wanna pull up to the shop

• 44:10Speaker 01

  with fifty extra people, one of them who wants to steal, one of them, it's the hood mentality, that's just really what it is now. Uh, that being said, you know what I'm saying, I'm a big fan of rap, Kodak Black, Boss Mandilo hit me up, uh, Bobby Shmurda hit me up, you know what I'm saying, I love Boss Mandilo, that's my favorite rapper right now, him, Kodak, and whatever. So I love it, and Young M.A. was a great rapper, uh, Cardi B, great, so I don't wanna shit on him completely, you know, but I'm not gonna hold back, 'cause I'm not here to, and they understand that, you know what I'm saying? The, uh, when it comes to the money, if you don't know how to do it, and that's why they always end up broke. Rappers? Yes, they're stealing, you know, Busta Rhymes is another great client of mine, um, um, they're stealing,

• 44:52Speaker 01

  they don't know how to manage their money, and their money's getting siphoned off, and they don't even know it. And then the person that's telling them what's up are the, is the enemy, the person that's giving them the bad news is the enemy. It's the mentality, and I'm not with that mentality, I'm just not with it, I don't give a shit, man. I want to sell on tracksy.com, I wanna do my own thing, you need me, I don't need you. You want an honest person to do business, John Jones is, is my boy. You know what I'm saying, the UFC fighter. Yeah, he is the best, after UFC fight, he pulled up. After he, the fight where he- In Madison Square, in New York? Yeah, in Madison Square, where Trump was at, and Elon Musk, and everybody, he came the next day. And Kodak was the man, but you know Kodak, you're waiting for him for two hours, three hours, four hours to pull up.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  You know, waiting in his lobby of his hotel, he's upstairs. Kodak, it was funny, but...

• 45:42Speaker 01

  I finally go up after like two hours to, to Kodak. So he's in the bedroom over there, you know what I'm saying? And I'm just standing, I'm like, alright, but I'm, his crew's there, so I start talking to his crew, I'm having a good time. And, uh, you know, I just glance into his room, he's sitting in the dark, you know, he's got these big eyes. He's sitting in the dark, and he's just blinking, looking at me, brushing his hair like this. You know what I'm saying, somewhere in his room, and I'm like, you know, saying that, but that, that's a fun experience, Kodak is fun, but he's on his own time.

• 46:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Kodak's on his own time.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  Kodak is on his own time.

• 46:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else have you done? You did stuff with, uh, is it, not Diddy, but you did stuff with 50 or you did stuff with?

• 46:20Speaker 01

  Well, with him, I can't even mention his name, as it turns out, because, uh...

• 46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  With Diddy?

• 46:24Speaker 01

  The, the other dude.

• 46:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, okay.

• 46:26Speaker 01

  Money by Monday, I think I could call him.

• 46:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't mention his name?

• 46:29Speaker 01

  I used his image or something like that and, um, you know, he's not one to play with either. Let's just put it that way.

• 46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 46:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And, but you respect that?

• 46:37Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, I respected. I mean, it was fair. I did what I did because I wanted a little attention from him and I wanted to do a little something and, you know, he was fair. He was, but he was not playing around. It was a money by Monday situation, but, you know, that's what I wanted. That's what I wanted. You know what I'm saying? I didn't react to 50, uh, or whatever, like I did to these guys, uh, because I, what I owe, I pay. You know? So that's it.

• 47:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you gotta be kidding me.

• 47:07Speaker 01

  It wasn't that much. It was nothing near that.

• 47:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But he started with that and then you settle with it?

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, no, he, he came with a, with a donation to his charity. And his, and...

• 47:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Respect.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  Very respectful, man. Fair, fair, but he is another man that is calculated and intelligent. Okay, this is a calculated, intelligent person, okay? There's something that a man is. All right, and he understands these rules, these subtle rules of between me and you, me and this guy, me and this guy, you know, how to behave, not to overcross any lines. And even if I overcross a line, you are not gonna react right away. You're just gonna take note that this person is off, right? You know what I'm saying? That's how a man acts in this world. And, and you know, it's a shame in the hip-hop world how they disrespect one another, baby mamas and this and that, and they just love to disrespect and, and then people get,

• 48:02Speaker 01

  you know, from the documentary, nothing hurts more than to find out that Tupac got killed, you know, over that jealousy. That's what it was portrayed to be, allegedly, or it seems, you know what I'm saying, because of, uh...

• 48:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You're talking about Diddy and...

• 48:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, Diddy, you know, being the hater that he was. Sneaky, he's another sneaky one. You know what I'm saying? He's another sneaky one. That's what it seemed like from the documentary. Oh, so love, I'm love, I'm love, but really he's this and he's that. Now, he could be something else, I don't really know, but that's neither here nor there. But to see these people die because of this stupid bullshit, to miss out on these talents like Biggie, it's sad.

• 48:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Biggie and Tupac, both of those guys, they should have been here right now.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  That would be, it would be unimaginable.

• 48:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  It's incomprehensible.

• 48:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I totally agree. By the way, stay on that, because that's interesting what you just said, because you said one is sneaky, one is a businessman. So you said 50 is a businessman, he's a, he's a man's man, and Diddy is a little bit more on the sneaky side. But you said there's some rules and codes.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  To be in that world, you know, in the jewelry world, doing business with all these guys, you have to know the power plays, right? You have to know the human nature side.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Talk, talk a little bit on that.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, listen, the jewelry business is a small community, okay? You know, I might have to, and when I pick up a kilogram of gold, two kilograms of gold, I go, I take it, and I leave. Okay, somebody writes the bill, and my accountant pays it, or whatever, or we work it out later. It's trust. The jewelry business is a trust game, okay? That's why it started by a Jewish community in the diamond district, okay? Because they know that when I give you this diamond, and you, you have the client for half a million dollars, I have the diamond for 400,000, okay? I got it in the rough, I got it for 200, I cut it myself, and now I got it at 400, okay? So I'm ready to make a move, but I don't have the customer. You got the customer.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  I hand you the stone, you go sell it, bring me the money. You don't go sell it and pocket it and run off like a drug addict, you know, with running off on the plug, because we're in the same Jewish community, I could trust you, and we could do this, and we could do that. And that's how that business started. It's built off of trust. There's no time to sign it, an agreement, and get your affidavit, bro. I need, you need the stone, the customer's in the store, go. Okay, that's the jewelry business, the hip-hop business and every other business has its own rules, its own thing, you know, Silicon Valley, their contracts are this long or whatever. Okay, Warren Buffett, he doesn't do crazy contracts. He knows who to do business with, he's also runs on trust, or did.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  You know, on whatever it is. So that's really what it is. You can't get a good deal like Warren Buffett says with a bad person. Forget it. Don't waste your time. You're wasting your time with a disgusting person and that's that. Just like I struggled with these Akai brothers, man.

• 51:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Stay on this with the Jews. So the Jewish trust, what is the code? Because you hear the, you know, I had a guy back in the days was in the dealership business in L.A., his name was David.

• 51:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And first time I saw six million dollars in cash, I was 21 years old, 22, whatever, he had like million dollars in cash. And I said, "What is it with you guys always having money?" He says, "In the Jewish code, when one Jew makes money, five Jews make money. We make money together." "We're not worried about, you know, trying to, only one person makes it and, you know, we don't wanna..."

• 51:29Speaker 01

  Well, listen.

• 51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, listen, this is what he said, and they said they keep making business. But is there, is there a code on why Jews do business together and they win together?

• 51:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, the code is, "Don't steal like a petty thief." That's the actual code, whatever anybody tells you, okay? "Don't steal like a petty thief." Okay, but when the numbers get bigger, the temptation gets greater. All the time in the diamond district, brothers turn on another brother.

• 51:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Brothers?

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Yes, they can't split the pie. They make the pie, and then they can't decide it. It's always, "But I did more work." "But I should have this." "But you didn't do that." "You took more vacations. You spent more, so I should have this, I should have..." They can't split the pie. And they turn on one another, and sometimes they get lawyers involved. They can't do Thanksgiving dinner or Shabbat together, or whatever it is. But it's not to be a petty thief to run away. One, probably because there's nowhere to run to. Living in the same neighborhood. And going to the same synagogue. Community, okay? It's just the Jews have a actual community. Where... You know, to be a thief, you're gonna be ostracized. So you're not gonna be a petty thief.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  So when you don't have that, that, uh, that's, that you could transact quicker. Trust is in a, enables transaction. That's what the people in the Middle East and, and, and other places in the world need to understand. Okay? You know, or I do business in Africa, or whatever it might be. You have to understand the value of trust to transact. That doesn't delay, you know, like, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna this? You know, if I'm gonna buy something on PBD, I know I'm gonna get it. That's what a brand is. Brand is a trust. You know, I trust that when I spend $10 at McDonald's, I'm gonna get a burger. I know what it's gonna be. All right? So that's just really what it is. And that's just what it is in the Jewish community, in the jewelry business. You know, somebody comes in there that's not Jewish.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  All right? And they're not from the community, you know, and e- even though, for me, I had to pay millions of dollars in cash upfront before I got anything. Okay? But I was all with it.

• 53:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean by that?

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Before I was able to get any trust at all, or anything like that, you know? My first transaction was like, I need this, here's the cash. It's not like I need it, give me, give me. I built my credit up, okay? If somebody comes in and they want something, and you have to write them a memo, you're wondering if you're ever gonna see them again. They might be tempted, because they're stupid, to run off with five grand, 10 grand.

• 54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are the worst people to do business with? That you've said, I'll never do business with them ever again?

• 54:05Speaker 01

  No, I don't.

• 54:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there anybody or no?

• 54:07Speaker 01

  No, of course not. I mean, um, people will surprise you. You could never judge a person by what they look like, ever. All right? Because they will surprise you and shock you about who they are and what they're capable of. All right? And sometimes you might have a bad experience with a group, or this, or that. Or you might have a great experience with a group, and then the reverse happens, or whatever. So there is no, uh, set rule for that, you know? And that's, uh, by the grace of God.

• 54:35Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's a rule, right? That's also a rule that somebody could be, uh, uh, the good can be bad, the bad can be good at times and surprise you.

• 54:44Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 54:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting, okay. Um, it, it, to the average person, say the average person sees a video like this and they see going back and forth where, hey, this is nine carats and he sold it to you at fourteen carats, right? Um, what can the average, because it doesn't increase the level of trust. Right now, gold has gone up, I don't know what the numbers were, now forty-three hundred, forty-four hundred dollars.

• 55:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, I bought a handful of, you know, kilos of gold that.

• 55:10Speaker 01

  Wow, man, that's always squeezing.

• 55:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty-five hundred, yeah.

• 55:13Speaker 01

  They're not playing around with that shit.

• 55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they're not playing around right now. So it's a, it's a good time to be in a business, but how about the average person?

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Doesn't make it easier to sell.

• 55:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What can the average person do to not get ripped off?

• 55:22Speaker 01

  What the average person to do to not get ripped off? Well, um, you know, you gotta learn, first you gotta deal with trustworthy people and then you gotta test it. Gold is not that hard to test, but really, you, you, you know, if you're a customer, man, you're not here to buy in and then run around and test it. Is this Rolex a real Rolex? Is it missing links? Is it this? Is it that? Is it this? Is it that?

• 55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Why not?

• 55:43Speaker 01

  Because, man, you wanna, you're, you're, you're here to have a positive transactional experience. If I'm buying a motorcycle from Ducati or I just bought a Lamborghini, you know what I'm saying? I don't wanna look under the fucking hood. I don't wanna pop open the engine and check the valves and see whatever it is.

• 56:00Patrick Bet-David?

  The difference is that's a Lambo, that's Ducati.

• 56:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:03Patrick Bet-David?

  If I'm buying gold from a guy I don't know.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  Then don't buy it from him. Buy it from Traxxas.

• 56:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, give me some red flags though. Like, think about for buy, like, if, if somebody were to tell me, you know, hey, I wanna find an accountant.

• 56:18Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm doing forty million a year, who should I hire as an accountant? I would give you what things to look out for.

• 56:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Who would you say, like, avoid doing business when buying jewelry when there's these two, three things?

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Um, I, I don't think off the top of my head, but if, what do you mean if you have an accountant? What do you mean by that?

• 56:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, if you're asking me, say you're doing forty million a year, you say, Pat, what do I look for in an accountant?

• 56:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I could tell you a couple things.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  What do you look for?

• 56:40Patrick Bet-David?

  On what to look for.

• 56:41Speaker 01

  What do you look for?

• 56:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I would say, don't go with an individual guys that's independent, go with a bigger firm.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Even if it's a fifty, top fifty regional firm.

• 56:48Speaker 01

  I wouldn't agree with that, no.

• 56:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Go with a fifty regional firm. And the reason for it is this, because if a guy walks.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And you have, there's a, back in the days, there was a guy named Brian at Bally's. Then everybody did their taxes with him.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Three years later, fifty people got audited.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody went to Brian.

• 57:05Speaker 01

  And he disappeared.

• 57:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And Brian's like, "Well, guys, listen, I'm not in the business anymore." But if you're with somebody with a name, that name is worth losing credibility. So even if he walks, the firm still has to hold themselves accountable.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  Sure, maybe they do, or maybe they could just...

• 57:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, they absolutely do, if you're dealing with a number like that. So to me, buying from someone, you're in the space, are there any red flags?

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Are there any red flags?

• 57:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Buying jewelry, buying gold, buying diamonds?

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Yes. Um, uh, well, you know, for me, uh, when I walk in the room and I get irritated by a person or they don't respond, I already get turned off and that's it. It did, I, I don't really even look for flags. It's just that if you don't say hello properly, if you don't have the dignity to say, "Hey, how are you?" Then you're a piece of shit and I don't want to have anything to do with you, okay? If you tell me one thing, you know what I'm saying, you're wearing a blue suit. "No, it's light blue, uh..." Any, any deviation of anything, you're done to me, you know what I'm saying? I'm not here to argue over basic facts and all that. So that's where, that's what it is for me, okay? But for the average consumer, the only thing you, if you're buying something and you feel like

• 58:14Speaker 01

  you're getting a deal from a small vendor, you could get it tested and that's that. And you could have to get a refund if you have to get a refund. But there's a reason why there's brands, because small vendors, uh, you know, have to build a reputation that's very, very difficult, okay? So, uh, and that takes a lot of time. If you're a small vendor, uh, like I was, and you're overlooked, you could attract customers by lowering your prices and doing a personal business. You know what I'm saying? And saying, "Hey, I got you. Don't worry, man, here's my personal phone number, call me anytime." You know, well, and now that I'm a bigger cu- bigger business, people want to buy from me, they can't call me up.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  You can't call me up because I'm busy. Or you could manect me, or whatever.

• 58:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 58:55Speaker 01

  But, you know, I'm busy. So, you could book me, I'm a neck, that's pretty much it. But if you're a small vendor, you have to, you have the advantage of doing personal businesses. Advantages and disadvantages, being small, being large.

• 59:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Advantages and disadvantages of being small.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  Anyway, listen, I got a little gift for you. You like gold chains? You look like a gold chain guy.

• 59:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I have it right now.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  Okay, you have one right now. Well, I got you a link. Now, this is not some bullshit. Okay, this is a 14 karat gold link. And I'm gonna be remiss to, to lose it. But if there's ever a person to have it, I think it's you. So can I put it on you?

• 59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  Let me put it on.

• 59:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course. Oh, man.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  This is a beautiful link.

• 59:43Speaker 01

  Whatever. But it's also good to strangle motherfucker.

• 59:51Speaker 01

  Got his, got his ass.

• 59:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Live on the podcast. TV is gone.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  Doesn't feel good, right? Doesn't feel good, I know.

• 1:00:00Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not at all. George and Fred, man, guys, that's not cool. Let me see this here. Well, thank you.

• 1:00:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a beautiful link.

• 1:00:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Sick.

• 1:00:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, I thought it would be.

• 1:00:08Patrick Bet-David?

  It's heavy, I feel it, it's great.

• 1:00:10Speaker 01

  It's not a joke, it's nice.

• 1:00:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much for that.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  My pleasure.

• 1:00:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, and by the way, that's, would you say that's a little bit of our hospitality? The Middle Eastern hospitality that we have where, you know, we're in the giving. Of course, we like to make money. Of course, we're, you know, we're paranoid sometimes and we're careful who we want to do business with. Do you think that's, that's a part of our nature to also wanna make sure other people are happy with our service?

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, yeah, that's a, listen, every culture has a better nature and a, and a, and a worse nature. And that's definitely the warmth. Like last time I was in Azerbaijan, or when you go to Turkey, or you go whatever. You know, the warmth that people receive you in person is not, nothing like anywhere else in the world. Okay, they really, you know, welcome you. When you're on their territory and you are vulnerable, that's when they treat you the best.

• 1:01:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree, I agree, you know, in the Russian culture, I was talking to you about the Baku family, Azerbaijan family earlier. One time, she invites us to a wedding, I take my dad with me.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've told this story, it's not a big story, but it's my dad's gonna crack up.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01:21Patrick Bet-David?

  We go to this place in Glendale.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, it's right across the street from, I don't know if that's John Marshall or John Mear, whatever that school is. It's a little Armenian hall, right next to the old Albertson's, I think it was, or Vons, whatever it was. And then we're sitting at a table, my dad, you know, used to drink a lot, but he stopped drinking. So this Russian man is like, listen, here, Gabrielle, mat vodka, mat kapi, mat mehat al kapi. So my dad hits one, it's the second one. At this point, if you say no, he keeps saying, I'm offended, if you keep saying no.

• 1:01:52Speaker 01

  Right, yeah.

• 1:01:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Twelve shots later, my dad is sitting there saying, listen, if we say, he's gonna kill me, we have to leave. So he says to me, we gotta leave. We get in the car, I don't know how to drive, I said, Dad, I can't even drive, I'm pulling over.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:02:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it was so bad, but that's, that's the one thing where it's, it's, uh...

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, they don't force you to drink in Middle Eastern culture, but in Russian culture, that's the thing.

• 1:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  In Russian cul- it's an insult, if you don't take a shot, if they offer it to you.

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  They pressure you, it's not really an insult, they pressure you.

• 1:02:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Pressure is an understatement, they almost put a chain around me and tried to choke me, saying, you better take a shot, like Trax did, it's like, hey, take the shot right now, or else I'm offended by it. But no, by the way, were you in that movie with Adam Sandler?

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, Uncut Gems.

• 1:02:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You were in, what was it called, it's, uh...

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  Uncut Gems.

• 1:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I was watching it, I was watching it, I'm like, wait a minute. Is that Trax? So which scene was it that you were in, you were...

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  Um, uh, yeah, there were a couple of scenes, you know, I mean, the beginning of the movie, I'm on the phone with him, but when he's receiving the opal, I'm in that scene, alright?

• 1:02:53Patrick Bet-David?

  How was that experience?

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  The Ashkenazi boys, the Safdie boys. Uh, that was an amazing experience, I mean, you know, the Safdie brothers, uh, did the, did the movie, and they were looking for this part when he's receiving the opal. Um, you know, with Garnett, I was there with Garnett the whole day, shout out to him. And, um, they were looking for this part, and I have to give this speech while he's getting this opal. And they didn't really know what to do with that because, you know, he's opening up a fish or something like that. So I started ranting, kinda like I like to do. And they loved it. And they got me for the movie. And we shot that scene all day. It was just me and Adam Sandler that whole day, for the most part, you know, shooting that scene. And, you know, he's an amazing guy. Amazing. He was making me laugh.

• 1:03:38Speaker 01

  He was, you know, doing all sorts of stuff. I mean, that's a once in a lifetime experience, man. Being on a movie.

• 1:03:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Especially a movie that has to do with your business.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:03:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, that's like the ultimate. And with a guy like Adam Sandler that...

• 1:03:52Speaker 01

  The crazy part is like, I finally go and I'm doing a movie. I'm out of the diamond district. I've been in the diamond district doing bullshit the whole time. I go to the soundstage in Long Island and they recreate a whole diamond exchange booth. I get behind the counter because I'm playing a jeweler and, you know, some of the actors, the security in the movie, like Keith or Kevin Garnett, they're asking me about watches. They're asking me about shit. I'm like, yo, bro, I'm acting. You know, say that while the, while the, like, we're on a break. They're like, alright, well, how much is this watch? I'm like, this isn't even a real, this is, this is props. This is not true. I'm not, I'm not selling anything here. It was weird. It was a very weird experience, man.

• 1:04:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam Sandler, Kevin Garnett. Interesting. And when you're watching him and he's acting, you're acting. What was it like when you sat down? This guy's a pro. Did you see anything where you're like, he's a pro? Was it kinda like, that's it?

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  He's a hump. He's a businessman, Adam Sandler, okay? He's an entertainer, but he's not a holly. He knows that he's just a mortal human being. He's there to do his movies and make his money. He's a smart man, okay? And someone else might be...

• 1:05:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's made a few hundred million dollars.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Why do you think that is?

• 1:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, I think he's an extremely likeable guy and people trust him.

• 1:05:15Speaker 01

  He's easy to work with, super easy to work with, so that's why he gets the business. They're like, you know, I can have this guy, but it's gonna be a headache and he wants this and all these pretenses and all this other shit. And with Adam Sandler, it's like, boom, let's go.

• 1:05:29Patrick Bet-David?

  How did they reach out to you? Did they reach out to you or you reached out to them?

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  There was a, you know, A1 Studios, I don't know what the, or what, A24, whatever it is, um, Studios, uh, is, uh, they had a casting system and they were looking for me and because, you know, my feud with Tekashi at that time, I came up and they had me, um, uh, do, uh, uh, what's it called? The casting.

• 1:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What was that like? For a guy who's not an actor, what was it like?

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  It was easy because after what I went through in the Diamond District, screaming about, you know, um, money they owe or whatever it was, was nothing. And, uh, especially to be in a movie, to, to build up my brand, it was nothing. It was a cakewalk. You know, what I went through in the Diamond District is something that is extraordinarily, uh, bitter. And I lost many years of my life struggling with these animals until I, until I turned into what you saw.

• 1:06:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Did this bring business? Did this bring notoriety? Did this bring people coming to you? Or what did this do for you?

• 1:06:32Speaker 01

  This got the, this got the ball rolling, you know, uh, all of my YouTube shorts and all my other stuff got the ball rolling. All these events got the ball rolling. It's all tactics, it's all whatever. Right now I get a lot of attention, but from, uh, whatever happened or so on and so forth. And I'm still, I got beefing with these guys. You know, Saint Akai and these guys, they called up and they're like, you know, some, some fucking, somebody in the, some go-between, another, whatever, I'm not even gonna hurt his feelings. He calls me up, he's like, yo, let's make peace, we're all in the same, we're not on the same fucking block, we're not all this and that. These guys have been playing with me this whole time, bro. What peace? You spit my face, you strangle me? Once you, you fucking strangle me, what peace we gonna make, bro? If I was really holding your fucking chain,

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  you know, and I'm still feeling this, if I was really holding you and trying to strangle you for like 30 seconds, bro, am I gonna come back into your studio and make peace?

• 1:07:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:07:25Speaker 01

  Right. You know what I'm saying? I spit your fucking face.

• 1:07:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just wondering how the hell you guys gonna coexist?

• 1:07:31Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna fucking coexist, I'm gonna go to war every day. I'm not here to coexist with any-

• 1:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right across from you.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Let's go to war every day, cross. Let me curse out your fucking family every day.

• 1:07:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Every day.

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  Every goddamn day, bro.

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  Every day.

• 1:07:48Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  Until people get bored of that shit, bro. Revile you motherfuckers, bro.

• 1:07:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Babe, what are you doing today? I'm just going to work. Why was your day? Babe, went after George.

• 1:08:00Patrick Bet-David?

  They should have, is there a live camera for people to see or no?

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  First I gotta sue them, man.

• 1:08:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh? Is there a camera for people to see?

• 1:08:07Speaker 01

  There will be, whatever, there has to be, there will be.

• 1:08:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's gotta be documented, people would be tuning in.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, if these fucking idiots are smart, they're gonna fuck right off. Goodnight and goodbye, bro. Empty your safe, get the fuck out of there. And if the landlords, the actual landlords, the Baharian family, have some sense, they'll throw them the fuck out of there. That's it. They shouldn't have never been there to begin with. Sold half the exchange to some fucking idiots, for what?

• 1:08:36Patrick Bet-David?

  How much would the exchange sell for?

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  I don't know, 20 million mortgage, mortgage.

• 1:08:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So they have real money?

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  Half the exchange.

• 1:08:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Do these George and Fred have money?

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, they're greedy animals, bro.

• 1:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What kind of money do these guys have?

• 1:08:45Speaker 01

  They have a different store, they fucking hid their money. George and Freddie, you didn't pay your fucking taxes, you greedy bastards. You fucking hid that shit. You siphoned it off from the government. The US government, you fucking dumb motherfuckers, bro. Go pay your fucking taxes and pay me. You fucking idiots, bro. Until we turn that fucking leaf over and take a look in there, what you've been fucking doing. Paying your sales tax, you stupid motherfucker, bro? Nah, I'm not playing around with them, bro. They're fucking, yo, bro, you have never met greedier people in your life. And you've met some, I'm sure. These people, you know, you could produce some greedy people in this world, and they could come from any culture, anywhere. Hypocrites could come from anywhere, okay?

• 1:09:30Speaker 01

  Like, you know, Fauci, who was just telling you, this is good for you, and this, and vaccine. You know what I'm saying? And you're watching that on TV across the whole country, and you just can't believe what you're seeing. These people are on that level. They hid their money. They had enough to do whatever they had to do. They hid their money. I don't know what they did. Okay, and they need to be turned upside down with their pockets like rabbit ears. You know, Kleenex for the kids' tears, like Biggie used to say, okay? They need to have their whole shit looked at and fucked with because they are ruthless. And I even hear they had a different exchange and they ran it into the ground. The father would go on vacation and close the entire exchange.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  "I'm on vacation, so you have to fucking suffer." Lording over people, you know what I'm saying? And instead of having grace-

• 1:10:23Patrick Bet-David?

  In New York?

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, in New Jersey. Instead of having grace that you are in a position of power to be a beautiful person because he was probably treated like shit, it's my turn to treat you like shit. It's my turn, you know what I'm saying, to do something disgusting to you. Or to treat people like garbage. No, no, yeah, fuck you.

• 1:10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think this is just the beginning. It's gonna be interesting what happens next. By the way, we said Tekashi. What happened with Tekashi?

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  Tekashi, you know, when he was a trade-way gangster, so on and so forth, whatever. I don't really even wanna talk about this kid. That was back in the day, but Aiden Ross, he wants to... He's doing some fighting shit. So I said, "Aiden, we could fight."

• 1:11:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You want him?

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, me and him. Or, you wanna get in the business, you gotta fight, baby. Or Tekashi, you know what I'm saying? He could fight. Now Tekashi's gonna go inside for... I don't wanna, you know, go back and forth with the kid. You know what I'm saying? But, uh...

• 1:11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you ever make something for Tekashi?

• 1:11:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I did business. I knew him in the beginning. I was at their house. I was doing all sorts of shit over there when I first started, before I even did Uncut Gems. I don't even remember what year it was. But if they wanna fight, you know what I'm saying, I've had a couple of fights. I'll fight Tekashi or I'll fight Aiden.

• 1:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who'd you fight? You fought who?

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  I fought Nico and I fought my MMA I fought.

• 1:11:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Who?

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  Uh, my employee that ripped off or whatever. This is my fight over here, but my MMA fight, it's right in the thumbnail, is my better fight.

• 1:11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You and Nico fought?

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, me and Nico fought. That's the Nico fight. But go down, yeah, click that one. Click straight like in the middle of the video, and you guys gotta get paid YouTube up in here, baby.

• 1:11:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what are you doing, Rob?

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  Alright, so click it right in the middle. It's right in the middle of the beef.

• 1:12:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You're doing UFC with-

• 1:12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He's UFC, he's a MMA guy?

• 1:12:11Speaker 01

  Nah, he is, well, listen, he pretended he was. He's a piece of shit, is what he is.

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:23Speaker 01

  So, I mean, there was a...

• 1:12:29Speaker 01

  So, it's a long fight. This isn't the best part of it, obviously. But it's okay. It's all a fight.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  He tries to choke me out, but he fails.

• 1:12:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, let me, let me ask you. Pause this real quick.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Trex, who were you in high school? 14, 15, who were you in high school?

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  Just a confused, awkward guy.

• 1:12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, really?

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  That's what I was.

• 1:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you fighting? Were you getting in trouble?

• 1:12:51Speaker 01

  I mean, I would have a temper. I would have whatever, but, you know...

• 1:12:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You did have a temper?

• 1:12:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You've always had this temper?

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, i- i- is mom and dad, you have one of their personalities, or no?

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  Um, uh, you know, my dad was a homicide detective in Azerbaijan.

• 1:13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Peaceful job?

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, he was a tough guy, and that rubbed off. You know, he's stepping over bodies, coming home. So, that rubbed off a little bit. My mom is not, nothing like that. She has no temper whatsoever. But, uh, you know, that made me hard, bro. That just made me tough. And, uh...

• 1:13:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you get into a lot of fights in school?

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  Um, a few, not that many. You know what I'm saying? But it was miss- I- I'm a very, you know, peaceful guy. It's, if there's a misunderstanding, I might, you know, lose my cool, but...

• 1:13:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what the Joseph guy said?

• 1:13:37Speaker 01

  It's only the money that's really...

• 1:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  The Joseph guy we're talking about, he said one time, he sneezed near you, or something like that. And he said he lost his mind.

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Listen, dude, this dude would have a, he used to call it a snot bomb. I don't know what was wrong with him, bro. He would fuck...

• 1:13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  We have a girl like that in the office, like that. Shout out to Mickey Rob. When Mickey sneezes, the building shakes.

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, that's not this. There was like a smell that would permeate, something.

• 1:14:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, got it.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  Disgusting smell, and I would be like, what the fuck, bro? It'd freak me out, but, yeah, whatever, man. I mean, this guy's remembering shit from... Uh, twenty years ago, twenty-one years ago, and still talking about it. And he's like, I started you, ah, ah, yeah. Taking credit from my, it's like, imagine somebody from twenty years ago, I started you.

• 1:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Plenty of them do, though. And I told him that. I said, listen, you know, you know what it is when I get messages like that. When I get messages like that, it's kind of like, you know, that they, that person said they started you. That person said, without them, without this. And by the way.

• 1:14:30Speaker 01

  And it's true to some degree.

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  To, to, to, for, you know, you, you give some names, a Brian, a, you know, there's a lot of names of guys that impacted on, uh, John, Jamie, there's a lot of guys that I can give on business that helped out on a big way.

• 1:14:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But when they say, without me, you wouldn't be anybody, that's where you kind of sit there and say, come on, man. Just pump the brakes a little bit. If, if it was that much greater, you would be much bigger. And by the way, he, he, I don't mind, it's a part of the history that they have as well, to say, I knew tracks when, dot, dot, dot, you know, you're talking about, you had a five million dollar December.

• 1:15:07Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You had a forty million dollar year.

• 1:15:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you project doing in twenty twenty-six?

• 1:15:12Speaker 01

  I don't know, I'm, uh, more, I guess, so I'm, uh, maybe a twenty percent more.

• 1:15:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Twenty percent more, so you're gonna hit fifty.

• 1:15:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That's good.

• 1:15:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good sales, but you know, it's all about the profit margin, you know what I'm saying? I want to make a couple of million bucks a year, and that's it.

• 1:15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you, what, what product will you never sell that you used to sell? You talk about the tank car at the chains that you don't do because of brakes. What do you, what will you no longer sell that you used to sell?

• 1:15:35Speaker 01

  Um, nothing in particular, nothing super cheap, because super cheap shit attracts, you know, the, the people that expect the most from the least. All right, the luxury business is the only business that where you raise your price and you sell more.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  It becomes more desirable, more unaccessible, like Chrome Hearts, it raises, you know, keychain, five thousand.

• 1:15:59Speaker 01

  This one's ten thousand.

• 1:16:00Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the biggest product you ever, the most expensive product you ever sold?

• 1:16:03Speaker 01

  I think it would be a diamond, man, uh, you know, like six hundred thousand or something like that.

• 1:16:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Six hundred thousand?

• 1:16:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, something like that. Stones, Solitaire Stones would be.

• 1:16:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're not in the watch business?

• 1:16:16Speaker 01

  Oh, the watches, yeah, absolutely.

• 1:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Will you sell the Patek, will you sell the bigger watches?

• 1:16:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course, of course.

• 1:16:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You will sell the bigger watches?

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, we sold skeletons, we sold this, we sold that, but you know, the jewelry business is a... Listen, if you want to understand the jewelry business, it's an inventory business. Uh, if you buy the right inventory, you make ten percent on your inventory, easily, okay? So fifteen percent, let's say. So if you have a hundred million dollars worth of watches.

• 1:16:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Ten million bucks.

• 1:16:40Speaker 01

  You can make ten, fifteen million dollars a month, every month. That's it. You have the watches, so they gotta buy it from you.

• 1:16:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Who do you guys buy it from to get it out of this can?

• 1:16:50Speaker 01

  The best way to buy, shout out to Moses, okay, this is, uh, you know, another jeweler. The best way to buy is to buy from the customer, because when they get eighty percent of their money, they feel happy. They're like, you know, especially when the prices go up at the dollar and shit. So, you know, they buy a watch for a hundred grand and they wear it for two years and then they sell it for seventy-five. They're happy. And then you could resell that watch and maybe it's now one-ten worth and you resell it for ninety-five.

• 1:17:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Twenty K.

• 1:17:21Speaker 01

  The next customer's happy too, but you just made twenty thousand dollars. So that's the way to buy is from the consumer. That's why if you want to sell your watches, you go to Sixty-four West.

• 1:17:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to Sixty-four West, or Manecta Tracks.

• 1:17:33Speaker 01

  Or Manecta Tracks, especially Manecta.

• 1:17:36Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know Roman Scharf?

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  Of course, that's my boy. I was speaking to him, I'm going to dinner with him Wednesday. He's an amazing person, man.

• 1:17:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so Roman...

• 1:17:44Speaker 01

  This is the best guy.

• 1:17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Roman comes on, we do a podcast together. We put Roman's phone number, uh, not phone number, what do you call it? Manecta. He's in, he ends up doing three hundred Manects.

• 1:17:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:17:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And he tells me, he says, Pat, I've sold a million dollars of watches on Manect.

• 1:17:56Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:17:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not even kidding with you.

• 1:17:57Speaker 01

  No, of course.

• 1:17:58Patrick Bet-David?

  The deals and the business that he did, and Roman's a good guy. Roman's, I bought a couple pieces from Roman. I just recently bought a big piece from Roman.

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Forget everybody else, man, just go to Roman.

• 1:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Roman's a good guy. So i- i- interesting. So you, you guys collaborate, you guys do deals together?

• 1:18:12Speaker 01

  We're friends.

• 1:18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Or is it separately, just friends?

• 1:18:14Speaker 01

  We're friends. He helps me out and he does something for me, you know what I'm saying? Uh, and that's it. But the friendship is there, I enjoy his company. He's such a supportive person, bro. This is the opposite of the fucking Akai people, right? You know, life can hand you death in one hand, life in the other.

• 1:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:31Speaker 01

  Okay, and this is the opposite. This is a guy who's giving, who's caring, who's a really amazing, just a pleasant person.

• 1:18:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Good father as well, he's got a... Is that in your plans anytime soon?

• 1:18:44Speaker 01

  Yes, it is in my plans, and I have to get going on that ASAP. You know what I'm saying? I want to get... Luckily, you know, I'm 39 years old, but you know, I have good genes. My mother, my grandmother was 101 when she passed.

• 1:18:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So you got a lot of living to do.

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  I got living to do, but I don't want to be, you know, too old, so... But everything comes in its own time, you know what I'm saying? I had just got the Lambo that I really, really like.

• 1:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one?

• 1:19:09Speaker 01

  Perfect color. It's a Huracan Storato. Okay, it's an off-road Lambo. The only one, I'm the only one in a Lambo in New York City. Okay? Yeah, that's that first, click that first video right there. That's it, that's it right there. So this is me running over gold with my old car, and then I melt down that gold because...

• 1:19:31Speaker 01

  Just admit it.

• 1:19:34Speaker 01

  There's an important business reason for that. Once we burn it out into the brand-new bar, I bring it over to Moses. How's the Ferrari? More important question. I'm sick and tired of seeing his Ferrari in front of my shop. So guess what? I'm gonna melt the bar into a Lamborghini gold bar. I take the Lambo bar and I cash it in with Isaac, and then I get this.

• 1:19:57Speaker 01

  Because I've been taking care of my business for 21 years, now my business is taking care of me. With some smart choices, I was able to take some gold scraps and get this Lamborghini. And guess what? If you see one flying through the city with money coming out the window, it's tracksnyc.com. Yeah.

• 1:20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  See, okay.

• 1:20:14Speaker 01

  Everything comes in its own time. The Lambo came in its own time. I always wanted to be on your podcast. That came in its own time. Wife's gonna come in its own time. Kids are gonna come in their own time.

• 1:20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for you.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  Just stick close to God. That's really the plan, though.

• 1:20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Rob, can you do me a favor? Go type in on YouTube, and just type in Traxx. And then go to, actually go to, is that his channel? Go on his channel, go on Shorts, okay? Go on Popular. Okay, go to the first one. Guys, 205 million views, 7 million likes. Let's see what he does in this video here. Go for it.

• 1:20:48Speaker 01

  We'll use this gold to work for our business. We're gonna turn these scraps into a powerful business move as soon as they go on fire along with this Rolex, which we're gonna roast like a marshmallow. Don't worry, it's just a fake Rolex. It's all gonna make sense as soon as we pour out this bar and throw that fake Rolex right in there. Did that ruin the bar along with this band? Let's find out. When we flip it over, it looks like absolute garbage up until you start hitting it with the hammer and reveal the bar. The Rolex is stuck, but we're gonna remove that, scrub the bar, and we have a 4,000 pennyweight piece of gold that we're gonna join with its bigger brother in the safe. Gold does not belong in the safe hiding from the light.

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  It's better put to business, that's why we cash it in.

• 1:21:35Patrick Bet-David?

  800 now.

• 1:21:36Speaker 01

  For $447,000. And then begin making watch deals all over the diamond district to add $447,000 worth of Rolexes in our shop, and that's business. I'm gonna show you how we use... So, gold scraps, man.

• 1:21:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So, here's a question for you. How you come up with these ideas? And why do you think there's so much interest? 205 million people watch this video, got 7 million likes.

• 1:21:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are people interested in videos like this that you make?

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  I keep their attention from the first frame, okay? And they, what did Mr. B say? If you're driving down the road and you see a cow, and you've seen him all the time, especially if you're in the Midwest, you don't say nothing, but if you see a purple cow, you go, "Oh, purple cow." You know, it's when you haven't seen something before and you see it for the first time. So, it's the first time usually people are seeing gold melted, gold cashed in, and business being done only in one minute. So, I just wanna show people something I see that they don't see and teach them something, you know? After that one minute, you're a little bit smarter than you were than the minute before. And that's really what it is. It's value tainment.

• 1:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  It's value tainment, yeah, I like, I agree. It's value, congrats on the Lambo. That was a good-looking Lambo.

• 1:22:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, that shit is great.

• 1:22:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Moses, is he down the street from you guys?

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:22:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw the other day, it's funny, the moment your video went viral, Complex, I think, put a list of

• 1:22:59Speaker 01

  Jewelers.

• 1:23:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Twenty most popular jewelers, or whatever it was.

• 1:23:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, Complex, shout out to them.

• 1:23:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, do you have that list, Rob? I don't know if we even talked about it, but I saw this, I think, four days ago. Three days ago, something like that, that they posted on their, I think it's that one right there. See if it's that one Instagram, or one of the two. Is that it? Go next, Rob? Keep going?

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  This is the older one, when they didn't love me that much.

• 1:23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  They literally just did a new one.

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's thirty-nine weeks ago.

• 1:23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they just did one.

• 1:23:33Speaker 01

  Now they're putting up all my videos over there, I'm living on Complex over there.

• 1:23:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:38Speaker 01

  Keep scrolling, I think, yeah, right there, to the right.

• 1:23:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, there you go.

• 1:23:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So go a little slower, Nadine, is she also in New York, or no?

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  I don't know, I never remember.

• 1:23:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Singapore, keep going? Houston, Leo?

• 1:23:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, Greg, he's a support, thank you, Greg.

• 1:23:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Greg looks like the guy from Bronx Tale, but it's not him, it's not the same guy. You know who I'm talking about, the young guy that was hanging out with Sonny, keep going? Moses, so what's Moses's story? I'm starting to see him a lot as well.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  Yes, Moses is a very shrewd business, young business person, that knows how to really price and negotiate and maneuver, and he's also a nice guy, he's got a good family.

• 1:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going?

• 1:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at that chain right there.

• 1:24:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, that I made.

• 1:24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't want to be choked by that one.

• 1:24:29Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:24:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That may choke you without somebody needing to choke you.

• 1:24:33Speaker 01

  If the person is rich, let him fucking do it, go for it.

• 1:24:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going.

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  Go for it, Fred.

• 1:24:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Japan, keep going?

• 1:24:42Speaker 01

  Mavani, he said hello, yes.

• 1:24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going?

• 1:24:45Speaker 01

  Maharayan Boys.

• 1:24:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Icebox, keep going.

• 1:24:48Speaker 01

  Icebox Boys, also normal people. These guys are normal as well.

• 1:24:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going?

• 1:24:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Jason Beverly Hills, you know these guys?

• 1:24:57Speaker 01

  No, I never met him, but I'm sure he's a normal person.

• 1:25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny DeJour?

• 1:25:02Speaker 01

  Benny's a good guy, yeah.

• 1:25:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going. I've heard of Benny.

• 1:25:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. Jewelry Unlimited, very long time they've been in business. In eBay days, I used to compete with them.

• 1:25:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, really?

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going.

• 1:25:13Speaker 01

  Johnny's another guy, great guy.

• 1:25:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going.

• 1:25:17Speaker 01

  I don't know, I never met Gabby. Seems like a normal person as well. Elliot's another good dude, he's, you know, keeps to himself. Nothing wrong with him, I'll tell you that much. And Alex, I never met.

• 1:25:29Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's first, Alex?

• 1:25:31Speaker 01

  I guess so. Listen, the jewelry business is, uh, it's about the customer. Again, it boils down to the clout and it boils down to unfortunately, the rapper Drake. Where does Drake shop?

• 1:25:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I got it.

• 1:25:45Speaker 01

  You know what I'm saying? The jewelry's not that hard to make. Now, these guys are creative and they do creative shit, but, uh... So they'll make a creative piece for their client, but it's just all corny bullshit to me, you know what I'm saying? That's why I say fuck you.

• 1:25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, who's some, you did, the Trump, Trump's grandson buy something from you?

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, uh, Trump's grandson, I was talking to Baron yesterday on the phone. He hit me up with FaceTime, finally. Uh, no, he was, uh, by the, he stopped by the shop.

• 1:26:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Baron's wanting to buy something?

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  Uh, Baron is a, uh, fan, I suppose, uh, you know, he watched the video of me screaming at these guys, he loved it. I said, yo, your pops knocked me out with the Maduro move. I'm like, yo, can you, you couldn't tell him to hold off?

• 1:26:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Why is that? Why? Because?

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  Because, you know what I'm saying, once he went into Venezuela, my, my views went down. I'm just joking.

• 1:26:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, got it. It became, uh, the news story?

• 1:26:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So Junior bought from you, so who, who is some?

• 1:26:38Speaker 01

  This is Donald Trump the third. Yeah, yeah. So we went into the streets and shit, I mean, you know.

• 1:26:43Patrick Bet-David?

  With him?

• 1:26:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That's him?

• 1:26:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, Secret Service was there. Donny.

• 1:26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He looks like a Trump.

• 1:26:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, good kid, good kid.

• 1:26:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got the look.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  Good kid, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:26:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Press play rap?

• 1:26:53Speaker 01

  That's really my passion is to give guidance to the kids. He is pretty straightforward. I mean, the parents ain't gonna spoil him with a Rolex and all this other shit. That shit has to be earned. If you're getting your kid a Rolex, you don't love your child. You're destroying their life. A Rolex is something you wanna work hard for and then one day put on your wrist and say, "Damn, here I am." You know what I'm saying? I got there. That's the reward. Like, getting your first sports car. That might happen early in life, that might happen later in life, that might never happen.

• 1:27:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back to that run. Is that guy to his left his security?

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  Uh, to his left, that's his friend.

• 1:27:31Speaker 01

  Sprite is a good one, Batman's a good one, they got the Bruce Wayne somewhere on that.

• 1:27:36Speaker 04

  Usually all the Rolex crowds are on this side.

• 1:27:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:39Speaker 04

  This one's the left.

• 1:27:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:42Speaker 04

  They only came out in 2023.

• 1:27:45Speaker 01

  And you know what? When they saw, when Akai... And they were looking at watches, you know, the kids, they wanna see watches, they wanna see lit shit, they wanna see this, but remember, when you're dealing with me, I'm not on the sweetness, man. I'm not on the trying to be, oh, you know? There's the watch, and then there's the man. You can have a Timex, a Rolex, a Patek Philippe, but it's gotta be equivalent to who the man that's wearing it is. You know what I'm saying? What's more important? Let me ask you something. The watch or the wrist that's wearing it? These watches are like trading pieces. You buy them for 10% more, you sell them for 10% less. When Akai saw this kid and the grandson... They were scared, they were cautious, but not cautious enough.

• 1:28:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, Akai?

• 1:28:24Speaker 01

  Akai.

• 1:28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 1:28:25Speaker 01

  They're still there because they're seeing, "I'm with the president's grandson, and they're still using my name and stealing my customers." You know, the greed, it blinds you, bro. Greed blinds you, sin blinds you. You know what I'm saying? When you sin, you're blind. You could win 99 times and that one time you lose it all. You know what I'm saying? Just like Diddy, just like...

• 1:28:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the one person? By the way, Diddy, you said you did something for Diddy or no?

• 1:28:50Speaker 01

  When I was a kid, um, you know, for Sweet Sixteen, he gave me some business. But, you know, I was only like ni- twenty years old, twenty-one years old, and the quality I had was just garbage. And then he looked at it and then he never did business with me again.

• 1:29:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the quality of what you had.

• 1:29:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I, I bought something from a vendor that was a G-Shock, fully iced, that just had shit diamonds in it, like horrifying.

• 1:29:14Patrick Bet-David?

  How could he tell?

• 1:29:15Speaker 01

  He's been around jewelry his whole life, but the price was good. But somebody was setting up his birthday for the Sweet Sixteen, MTV, for one of the sons. And then, uh, you know, I got the, before I was doing it, and I, you know, I had crazy good prices. So when they needed jewelry, okay, at that time, my markup was like five percent, ten percent.

• 1:29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  To make a name for yourself.

• 1:29:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, to make a name for myself. It was stupid, okay? I could have made myself a thirteen percent, fourteen percent, twenty percent, eighteen percent. Be smart, bro, don't give it away. Five percent, please be my friend, but I didn't, whatever. So I'm a, so I, I had good deals, they, they were attracted to that, and then it all turned to shit. But it's all right. Yeah, I think he's wearing it.

• 1:29:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the one person you haven't done business with that you'd like, is there anybody on your list?

• 1:29:59Speaker 01

  That I like?

• 1:30:00Patrick Bet-David?

  That you'd like to do business with?

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  Um.

• 1:30:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That you'd like to make a piece for, you'd like to?

• 1:30:05Speaker 01

  Patrick Bet David, ever?

• 1:30:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, well, he did, I'm wearing your chain now, I got Traxxas Gold chain on my neck, and I feel safe.

• 1:30:12Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't know, man, whatever, eh, eh, not really worried about it particularly. I'm a fan of, you know, Boss Mandilo hit me up, I'd like to make a piece for him, for, for the rap community to, you know, make amends. Cause he's a real rapper.

• 1:30:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Have they ever, eh, have you been, you've been in movies, but have you been in a rap song, or have they mentioned you?

• 1:30:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:30:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, which one?

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  Well, you know, there's a Jewish rapper, uh, Kosher BLP, he's coming up, he's out in Florida.

• 1:30:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Kosher BLP?

• 1:30:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, Busta Rhymes did in his last album.

• 1:30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That guy right there, BLP Kosher?

• 1:30:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:30:44Speaker 01

  Yes. He's a great rapper.

• 1:30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:30:47Speaker 01

  I mean, he's, he's coming up, he's doing his thing.

• 1:30:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you said Busta Rhymes?

• 1:30:51Speaker 01

  Busta Rhymes, yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about, uh, uh, uh, what do you call it, uh, Jacob the Jeweler? What's the brand of the watch called, uh?

• 1:31:01Speaker 01

  Jacob and Co?

• 1:31:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Jacob and Co.

• 1:31:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, listen, he's a master jeweler, another Baharian, uh, that, uh, mastered the craft of jewelry. And, um, you know, he had a flawless performance in the jewelry industry, very subtle, very thoughtful. And as a sub person, the model, you know, as far as a watch is concerned, there has always been creative watches. And that's it. That's all there is to say about it. You know, um, they're a little bit loud and then he brands them a certain way, but you know, he had legendary watches for years. And, um, you know, would I personally, do I personally would die for Jacob and Co? No, I wouldn't. You know, that's not really a watch for me, but he comes up with creative pieces.

• 1:31:49Speaker 01

  And that's it.

• 1:31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there a watch you own, you'd never sell?

• 1:31:53Speaker 01

  Uh, no. That's Roman says, the Roman would say the same thing, you know what I'm saying? That, uh, not at the moment. I mean, I keep my watches in my showcase. My watch right now is some bullshit Rolex Datejust that I just beat up and shit. I'm still actually want to get my watch back that was stolen in a robbery that I gotta post a picture of. That was hand engraved by this guy, Sir Jewelry, which is an amazing hand engraver. So I was gonna do that video later and get that back. Because it's a one of one Rolex that was gifted from me from somebody was a customer that was.

• 1:32:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody stole it?

• 1:32:24Speaker 01

  Somebody stole it.

• 1:32:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Where did they steal it?

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  It was in a robbery, you know, at the Buddha bar or whatever. The guys went to jail, the, the, the police swooped in. A bunch of shit happened over the course of, of, of my life. That's, uh, that's always a wacky story, but there was a robbery. They stole the watch. I want to get it back. But, um, there isn't a watch that, right now I have a million and a half in the showcase. That's not enough in the watch business. Okay. I might put in, you know, another 500,000, but I'm thinking, should I buy a silver mining stock and just let that go up? Or should I buy more jewelry and that go up? So I have to deploy another half a million, 600,000 dollars worth of capital right now. Um, into the marketplace.

• 1:33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Watches?

• 1:33:07Speaker 01

  Uh, maybe. You know what I'm saying? What about silver miner stocks? What's happening with silver? What's this story about this battery? Uh, Samsung is creating with using a kilo of silver for cars that could go 900 miles with BMW. You don't want to find out about that a day late and a dollar short, my friend. Okay. If they have a 900 mile BMW coming out. That charges in, uh, an hour. Can you imagine that? And it uses a kilo of silver each?

• 1:33:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the.

• 1:33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  EV Maxx Gen 6 battery technology, these models are part of a brand new, new class platform with the production. Is it tied to silver?

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, you could ask that question. I mean, this is just, this is cutting edge news. Even you don't even know about it, huh?

• 1:33:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Just type silver in the, in the search?

• 1:33:58Speaker 01

  It's, it's really, um, really cutting edge news. Solid state EV batteries, 900, yeah, try that one.

• 1:34:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, it's a, uh...

• 1:34:08Speaker 01

  You're gonna, you're gonna have to dive deep for it, but...

• 1:34:12Patrick Bet-David?

  900 miles.

• 1:34:12Speaker 01

  Toyota claims...

• 1:34:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Breakthrough could offer 900 miles driving range.

• 1:34:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:34:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, the Lambo's not gonna do that, though.

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  Fuck the, fuck 900 miles on the Lambo. I mean, I have a V10 in that shit, naturally aspirated. I don't need it. I don't drive it on the weekends.

• 1:34:26Patrick Bet-David?

  900 miles on it, it's, uh...

• 1:34:28Speaker 01

  I'm gonna destroy that Lambo. I'm gonna have it upside down by the time I'm done with that shit.

• 1:34:33Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you drive it? Are you like putting...

• 1:34:34Speaker 01

  Like a fucking Lambo, baby. I'm not a, I don't do any tickle.

• 1:34:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know, every time, when I buy exotics, they're like, "What are you doing with this?" I'm like, "I'm gonna drive it." As if it's a, I bought a brand new Rolls Royce Dawn. I put 20,000 miles on it. I bought a 458. I put 18,000 miles on it. I, I drive.

• 1:34:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I bought an Aventador. I drove it every day like it's a BMW.

• 1:34:56Speaker 01

  Yes. Yeah.

• 1:34:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting.

• 1:34:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, last question for you. I'm a buyer. Give me an idea, if I got 10 grand, 100 grand, a million bucks, where should I put my money in jewelry? Or should I?

• 1:35:09Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, you should.

• 1:35:10Patrick Bet-David?

  10 grand, 100 grand, a million bucks, what should I be looking at?

• 1:35:13Speaker 01

  That depends on how intelligent you are and how thrifty you are. Now, if you're getting an emerald, that's an $800,000 emerald for $250,000, you should buy that. But, if you don't know anything about an emerald, then you shouldn't do that. Then you should just buy gold. And lots of heavy gold jewelry, because that's easy to scrap and easy to melt and go on with that.

• 1:35:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Gold?

• 1:35:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:35:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're long on gold, or you're...

• 1:35:40Speaker 01

  I mean, I was explaining gold when it was 1800. I started making gold videos when it was 1250 dollars an ounce. I started the business, it was 350.

• 1:35:50Patrick Bet-David?

  When you started the business 20 years ago, it was 350?

• 1:35:52Speaker 01

  350.

• 1:35:53Patrick Bet-David?

  From 350 to 4500 bucks?

• 1:35:55Speaker 01

  It was 10 dollars a gram, now it's over 100 dollars a gram, 14K.

• 1:35:58Patrick Bet-David?

  13X.

• 1:35:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, something like that, okay, on a chain, alright? So, the price went up to 1900 when the mortgage collapsed, the mortgage crisis, and then it simmered back down at 1250 and I said, "Buy." It went up to 1850, I said, "Last chance." Now it's 4500, I don't know what the hell is going on. The story of our lives is what's gonna happen with the dollar. My lifetime, your lifetime, the story of the dollar. Trump is coming in trying to hold the dollar and save it, after these people prostituted the dollar, okay? They put the dollar out there like a whore. "Give me my money," you know what I'm saying, this is what they did with the dollar. So, the story of our lives is can he save the dollar or not?

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  Because Xi Jinping is coming, and he's not, he's not, you know, an idiot. He moves quietly and carefully, and they're working on the silver now, they're working on the metals now, but you can't trust the communists, you want to stick with this. So something is at play, but Trump is only there for three years, Xi Jinping is there for a long time. We all know the play. They want to show the dominance by taking Taiwan. And when they do that, they'll wait until Trump is out of power and they have absolute dominance, and then maybe they'll take it. They're not gonna take any risks, any unnecessary risks, that's how you got to this position. No unnecessary risks. And the story of our lives is the dollar, and for the average person, they're buying, they're not buying.

• 1:37:28Speaker 01

  You know, right now, the truth is, whatever they're saying, whatever the statistics are, you can't really hold your money in the bank. You know that. You have to hold it in something. And for the average person, if you're not saving in precious metals, you're not saving, period. So this paycheck to paycheck, credit card shit that America's going through is very tragic to me. And it shouldn't have been like that.

• 1:37:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, you're in New York City. Have you thought about like doing something creative like I love communism and taking it to Mondani and handing it to him?

• 1:38:03Speaker 01

  I don't want to have nothing to do with Mondani.

• 1:38:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Really? You're not a Mondani guy?

• 1:38:06Speaker 01

  Fuck Mondani.

• 1:38:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He's your mayor.

• 1:38:07Speaker 01

  I mean, listen, I don't want to say it because he's my mayor, he's gonna be up my ass, but I don't need any Mondani. Uh, I don't need to have nothing to do with that. I like Mayor Adams, to be honest. I met him. Um, you know, he was a fine guy. I don't know what this guy's gonna do. Let him prove himself. And let him do something for the city. Communism, schmamunism, all this other shit. All these games and all these idiots that vote for this hope and change bullshit. Uh, and all these young kids with their, you know, they're, they're lost, they're confused. And I remember that I was one of them. I was thinking Obama was a great president and hoping for a second term, he's gonna do it, when he was just a bullshit artist the whole time, bro.

• 1:38:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean by that?

• 1:38:45Speaker 01

  I mean, when he came out with Obamacare, his big move that took years. You know what I'm saying? He's a good, he's a good cheerleader. That's what the fuck he is, okay? And he came out with Obamacare and the website crashed and it didn't work? That means someone was coming up to him and saying, "Yeah, we're working on it." He's like, "Great, we're gonna build the healthcare." There's, there, there, uh, you know what I'm saying? Pretending. People don't understand. These people are fooling you and they are pretending while they're printing dollars and stealing them. That's all that's going on. So all that Obamacare that was just feeling sorry for him and wanting to be a success. And when my eyes opened to that, because I was a business person waiting for a good economy.

• 1:39:31Speaker 01

  And I was building a website and I had to do it by myself on my own. You're the President of the United States and your website's crashing and then you're asking Google to help you? And then, you know, he did YouTube videos in the White House? Because Google, because Google had to save the day. He had to pick up the phone and call Sergey Brin.

• 1:39:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how much they spent on that website?

• 1:39:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, they got ripped off and they always get ripped off.

• 1:39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it was nine hundred million bucks or something like that, Rob?

• 1:39:55Speaker 01

  My friend, yeah, they, they got ripped off. It's just telling them what they want to hear and it's just, that's what communism is and that's what all of that is. You're on your own, you know, that's really what the Republican and mentality is, is you gotta realize, these people aren't coming to help you. It's only the primitive people of the world that are voting for these promises. And that's why they get these dictators, because they believe in the liars, okay? And this is again, what I'm saying, about to say is a little bit, gonna sound crazy, but it needs to be said, okay? It needs to be said, alright? And there's a lot of, it's super intelligent women out there, you got Candace Owens, she's got her problems, you got Megyn Kelly, you got this and that.

• 1:40:36Speaker 01

  But, um, you know, when women vote, they vote for the biggest bullshit artist out there, that's telling them, uh, you know, empty promises, okay? Alright? And that's, uh, you know, that's, uh, what's causing a lot of this, uh, I'm not saying, I'm not saying in any way, that it's a concern, okay? Because, as a man, you might have a different mentality, and you might be more cautious to bullshit. But these dreamers and these promises, it's dangerous, so I just wanna put that out there for the women that might be watching, okay?

• 1:41:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What you're saying is, please stop voting, is that what you're telling them?

• 1:41:14Speaker 01

  No, no, I'm saying, stop buying into bullshit promises and liberal dreams of kumbaya, okay? That's my message. Vote, vote intelligently, you know, you need more female leaders, you need more black leaders, you need more amazing people that are standing out there and guiding people, right? You need more Jewish leaders, alright? Like, that's like, what consider myself, to teach the Jewish, I'm responsible for my people, not responsible for other people. I'm responsible for the Jewish people, you know, for Azerbaijan, for whatever, to, to give, uh, uh, the right direction on moral behavior, okay? And I would suggest, for other groups and other people, it would be a big difference to the world if you stop believing in bullshit artists, that promise you a bunch of shit.

• 1:41:58Speaker 01

  "We're gonna freeze the rent, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, here, there, this, that." These are all bullshit ideas, they're gonna come to nothing. How many people suffered because of communism, and because of all these promises of the distribution, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the, you, we're gonna, the Central Bureau, you're gonna call the Central Bureau, and you're gonna build apartment buildings in Kazakhstan, from Moscow, we need, uh, that, this is not gonna work, man. They're all gonna say, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, steal the money." So wake up, America.

• 1:42:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Wake up, America. Menect, Trax, Maxud.

• 1:42:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And go buy some gold.

• 1:42:36Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's what the key is. I think that's what I took from the message here.

• 1:42:40Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:42:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Trax.

• 1:42:45Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Great to have you on, man.

• 1:42:47Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:42:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, all the best to you. Stay safe, keep making noise. Uh, you're, you're, you're meant to be on camera. You are so entertaining to watch. It's an understatement. For a guy that's not in the space who just enjoys watching you, you can grab the attention of the audience from the second you're on till the end.

• 1:43:06Speaker 01

  Thank you for having me, my brother. That's an honor to hear you say that.

• 1:43:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I truly mean it. You're, you're, you're fantastic at what you do. Take care, everybody. God bless. We'll do it again tomorrow. Bye bye, bye bye.

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• 1:43:47Speaker 06

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the HouseMajorityPac.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.