Moment 45 - Why 80% Of Relationships Don't Work: Mo Gawdat

In these ‘Moment’ episodes of my podcast, I’ll be selecting my favourite moments from previous episodes of The Diary Of A CEO. In this episode, we go back to a moment from one of my favourite episodes with Mo Gawdat. We discuss something that I like to bring up with a lot of my guests; how to maintain love and keep relationships healthy. The way Mo speaks about his previous partner is phenomenal and should be a lesson to us all mentioning that he still admires her spirituality, love and wisdom. Mo explains that reaching this level of maturity in meaningful relationships requires work, trust and a total understanding of each other. Finding love and keeping love are not the same thing. In this moment listen to become a better person in your relationships. Episode 101 - https://g2ul0.app.link/9MCCcFlLnmb Mo: https://twitter.com/MGawdat? https://www.instagram.com/mo_gawdat/?... Watch the episodes on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Steven Bartlett?

  Romantic love. Let's take a pivot there then.

• 0:04Mo Gawdat?

  Oh, man.

• 0:05Steven Bartlett?

  Before we started recording, we talked a little bit about the modern world of dating and how difficult it is because of the way the world's changed and, you know, the battles with romantic love. You know, I know you've been in, you were in a relationship for a long time.

• 0:17Mo Gawdat?

  Yeah, 28 years, yes.

• 0:19Steven Bartlett?

  And then back on the dating market?

• 0:21Mo Gawdat?

  Yes, not doing great.

• 0:23Steven Bartlett?

  Not doing great.

• 0:26Steven Bartlett?

  You were, you were with someone for 28 years.

• 0:28Mo Gawdat?

  Yes.

• 0:30Steven Bartlett?

  I'm like 28 years old.

• 0:31Mo Gawdat?

  I know.

• 0:32Steven Bartlett?

  Staggering, you know.

• 0:33Mo Gawdat?

  Oh, she's an amazing woman and we're still best friends. She's still, she's still, in my eyes, the best woman that ever existed. And I think in my, in her eyes, I'm still, I'm the best man that ever existed. And I think it's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful connection. And it's doable. And it's actually, if anyone needs to experience that once in their life.

• 0:54Steven Bartlett?

  Do you know what question I'm gonna ask you?

• 0:56Mo Gawdat?

  No.

• 0:58Steven Bartlett?

  If, if you both think you're the best people that ever, ever existed.

• 1:01Mo Gawdat?

  Huh. Love and relationships are two different things. Love is feeling. Relationships are compatibility and fit and work, okay? And progress and projects and, you know, and partnerships and lots of, and lots of things, relationships. So in, in the book I'm working on, I actually have a section about finding love and a section about keeping love, right? Because, because they're not the same thing. And I, you know, Nibel and I, you know, she's the most amazing woman ever. And, you know, at least from what she gave me in life, I, I will eternally be grateful. Everything that I am, any comment that I said today was discussed one day with

• 1:46Mo Gawdat?

  Nibel, right? Her spirituality, her wisdom, her, you know, her love made me who I am. Okay. And you can't kill that because you no longer want to sleep together. Do you understand this? You can't, you can't be that stupid to take all of those beautiful relationships and just say, okay, that's it, we're separated, we don't wanna talk. Right? The, the thing is, I believe that love is short-lived. Okay? I believe that Nibel and I had to fall in love six times. Uh, uh, over, over the twenty eight years because we both changed every single time. So she's, she was my college sweetheart. We had that amazing, you know, puppy love and wonderful romantic relationship and so on. And then we get married.

• 2:31Mo Gawdat?

  And then she becomes a different person and I become a different person. And you suddenly go like, where's my sweetheart? Okay, and you have a choice then either to walk out and say, I'm look, I'm gonna go look for my sweetheart. Or in our case, we go like, oh my God, she's gone that sweetheart, but my God, this one is so cute. I love that one, right? And we fell in love again and again and again, six times. Until our paths went literally opposite ways after Ali. Where my, my path went into, okay, I'm gonna write a book and tour the world and do more of what I do. And her path went into, okay, it's time for me to start focusing on my own life. I wanna,

• 3:12Mo Gawdat?

  you know, focus on my own business, focus on my own stability. I don't wanna travel the world like a maniac and it became difficult. It became difficult to go back every two weeks when we haven't met. And feel guilty that I have not been there for her and she hasn't been there for me. And so one day we sat down, we spoke, we hugged. Literally hugged and then, you know, said, okay, maybe it's time to try another experience and and then we went back to the same home and spent another week together. And then I left, uh, and it's beautiful. It's beautiful as it is. I think, uh, you know, uh, we, we still carry each other's credit cards and we still, you know, manage our investments together and there is total trust and total,

• 3:56Mo Gawdat?

  uh, you know, understanding and we still, you know, parent Aya, our daughter together and it's wonderful. It's just that romance is that is one part of the different melody of loves that you can feel for someone.