Tyreek Hill the NFL's fastest Wide Receiver, Kansas City to Miami, playing with Mahomes vs Tua, Kat Williams of WRs, finding faith to save his family & how one bad decision can change it all.

Episode Highlights: Almost not making it to NFL NFL’s fastest man, 2024/25 MVP? Mahomes locker room vs Tua's Relationship with Andy Reid Inside the Miami Dolphins & leadership Response to personal rumors & headlines Finding Faith in family & marriage 8x pro bowler, Super Bowl champion and the fastest man in the NFL, Tyreek Hill sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred to reflect on being the highest paid receiver, going from juco to the pros, leaving Kansas City to play for the Miami Dolphins, restoring his faith to get back to football and how his marriage is in fact his strength, despite rumored headlines. Calling himself the Kat Williams of wide receivers but known as Cheetah to the football world, Tyreek Hill prides himself in being an open book and sometimes too open but he’s always going to speak his truth. Tyreek shares what his life was like as a child, the bumpy road to the NFL, almost losing football and how one bad decision can cost you everything. On pace to do record breaking numbers at the start of this past season, no one was catching Tyreek with his speed and electric route running which had him in the MVP conversation until injury slowed him up but he learned how to play through the pain to stay on the field. The Dolphins were front runners to win a tough AFC East and their on and off the field success documented in HBO’s Hard Knocks in-season show. Despite falling short to his former team this season, Tyreek still believes the Dolphins were the better team over the Chiefs but fell victim to the “Any Given” Sunday theory that any team can rise to the occasion any week. Tyreek talks about playing with Mahomes and Travis Kelce, describes the locker room in KC vs the one in Miami now, why he believes the Dolphins are on the rise, praises Jalen Waddle and their offensive weapons and never forgets that he owes a lot to Andy Reid for the player and man he is today. Bad decisions in college resulted in minimum exposure early on and little opportunity to show his skills early making his path seem unlikely, until Tyreek’s life changed with one phone call to be drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs which led to him being a household name, feared by defenses and ultimately as Super Bowl champion. Looking up to Randy Moss and admiring Antonio Brown as the best in his position, Tyreek’s mindset has always been the same, to be the most dynamic player on the NFL field every week. Not allowing personal distractions interfere with his career aspirations, Tyreek has turned to faith and focusing on being the leader of the team as a trusted voice to younger guys as well as become the protector of his teammates. Fred stirs the pot to give Tyreek a chance to explain his social media banter with RC after Ryan made some comments on Tua early in the season, and the guys have fun with it but also get into what kind of player and leader Tua is striving to be. Channing couldn’t let Tyreek go without asking him to weigh in on his former KC pals, how his relationship has changed with Kelce and Mahomes and if he ever saw Travis dating Taylor Swift and his answer is not going to get him canceled! Before the fame, the man people know as cheetah today, grew up in Pearson, Georgia raised by his grandparents, Tyreek grew up in the church serving either playing the drums or praising dancing. Those early moments of his life in church instilled his love of God and faith, which later helped him transcend throughout his career. From being a newlywed to divorce rumors to parental headlines to his family home catching on fire making national news, Tyreek knows he is constantly under the microscope and relies on the continued support of his wife, grandparents and kids to tune out the noise and let his play do the talking. New Episodes of The Pivot with athletes, entertainers and more release every Tuesday at 12pm est on YouTube with early release on all audio platforms. Subscribe to The Pivot and Follow along on socials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:00Fred Taylor?

  You can walk any faster? You can talk? I said, the only thing I know how to do fast is...

• 1:05Ryan Clark?

  I hate that. Why though? I like that.

• 1:07Fred Taylor?

  You gotta ask the faster guy.

• 1:09Ryan Clark?

  He actually... He walked to the stadium. He walked to the stadium one time. He was walking fast. He had McDonald's in his ass, too.

• 1:17Fred Taylor?

  I was late.

• 1:18Ryan Clark?

  You were late? Okay.

• 1:21Fred Taylor?

  I just started walking fast in life, bro.

• 1:23Ryan Clark?

  They make y'all get, what? Two hours before the game? Tyreek, you don't need to be at the game before two hours?

• 1:27Speaker 04

  How we doing?

• 1:28Ryan Clark?

  What type of warm-ups you do?

• 1:29Speaker 04

  Good.

• 1:29Fred Taylor?

  It's back? Yes, sir.

• 1:33Ryan Clark?

  Ain't the same no more, huh?

• 1:35Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 1:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, you... Appreciate y'all having me on, man.

• 1:38Ryan Clark?

  Appreciate you. When you was back at, uh, South Georgia, running the one and the two in high school, you didn't have to warm up like that?

• 1:44Speaker 04

  Mm-mm. But this year, I really, like, I'm really, like, working with the strength and conditioning guys, warming up and stuff like that. You know? And it paid off for me, man. I promise you.

• 1:55Fred Taylor?

  What them Fast Fridays hit you like? Like, you gotta do anything extra to get ready for Friday practice?

• 2:00Speaker 04

  Well, our Fridays are different from when I was in KC. See, Fast Fridays in KC was like Fast Friday. You know, you get in, get your work in, you do your plays, and you're gone. In Miami, it's like, we doing walkthrough tempo. It's like, bro, I need to be moving, bro. I'm trying to get home.

• 2:19Ryan Clark?

  So for all of you that don't know, the guy behind the shades is Tyreek Hill. This is Channing Crowder, I'm RC, that's Freddie T., this is the Pivot. We've been pivoting a little bit already. This year, bro, I thought you were gonna get 2,000. I think, first off, to say something like that and then play the way that you did, that's difficult.

• 3:03Ryan Clark?

  Because it ain't like people don't show up to the arena and know, okay, they gonna throw him this ball. When he's in this condensed split, this is the route. Right? When he burst to number one, this is the route. And you continue to beat people. How difficult was it to deal with when you got banged up, though? Knowing the sort of record-setting season you were on?

• 3:22Speaker 04

  Mentally, it was tough, man, for me. You know, obviously, I had set out goals, individual goals for myself. And then, you know, when it happened, you know, I didn't feel it, obviously. Because it happened in the New York Jet game. So when it happened, my adrenaline was still running, I was still playing fast. But y'all played before I played. Y'all know, as soon as the game is over with, that next morning, it's like, you try to get out of bed, it's like, oh! Oh, man, what? And I couldn't walk, and it's like, bruh, that just messed me up mentally. And I'm a speedy guy, my, like, my feet, my ankles, my hamstrings are the most important, you know, asset to my speedy. And that just literally messed me up, man, for the rest of the year, so. I tried not to let it get in my head too much, man.

• 4:06Speaker 04

  My family, they was encouraging me, you know what I'm saying? They really helped me, you know, get my mind right, get back on the field. And, yeah, because my, their whole thing was like, hey, we need you. Hey, we need you, bro. Like, no time to make excuses. You tell your kids that, don't you sit here and do it, you know? Don't be that guy, so.

• 4:25Ryan Clark?

  Did you soak a little bit though? Like, did you get, did you get in your feelings? Because people think because we're used to injury, that they happen, you bounce back, and everybody's ready to go the next morning, even if they can't play, even if they don't feel good emotionally and mentally, they're prepared to get themselves back. For you, did you ever have a feeling of almost having the poor me's, having a pity party? Just realizing what that did to some of the opportunities you had?

• 4:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, it sucked, man. It sucked, man, because when you, when you so used to, you know, playing at a different speed or doing things a certain way, and then you have like something like this happen, it's like all of that goes out of the window. You know, I'm not, I'm no longer 100%, 90%, or whatever the case may be, because I'm not able to move or, you know, run a certain kind of way. And, you know, when you play against other guys, they, they gonna take advantage of that. And it's like, bro, like, ah. So I, I mean, of course, like, I, I've had, I have my moments, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I get locked up on a play, it's like, bro, like, I'm not gonna do it, you know? I'm, I'm out here for the team.

• 5:36Speaker 04

  I, I get it, my ankle hurt, but I ain't gonna make excuses, because that's me, though.

• 5:39Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 5:40Speaker 04

  You feel me? Like, I'm gonna take it on the chin, and then I'm gonna come back here and whoop your ass the next play, though.

• 5:46Channing Crowder?

  How you call, how you call your shot like that? You talking about when he said, "I'm, I'm going to get 2,000." That, that's something, you talking about the dudes you playing, best players in the world. You said it preseason, you knew what was gonna happen. How did you call that? Mike McDaniel, Tua, like, you called your shot. Why were you so confident in knowing, "Bro, I can go get two, two racks"?

• 6:04Speaker 04

  It's just the people inside of our building, man. Like, everybody do a great job of, you know, motivating each other. And, you know, just the people around, like, offensive talent that we got around, you know, that helps me out a lot. You know, a lot of people may say, "Oh, he just run fast and do this, Mike McDaniel." Yeah, like, I, I don't do nothing. I just go out there and run fast and catch the ball. Like, they make my job look easy. You know, our, our head coach, he does a great job of, you know, game planning. The whole organization, they do a great job of game planning and putting us in position to make plays. And when you have Waddle, when you have Mostert, when you have A-Chain, you know, and then when you got Tua, who throws a receiver-friendly pass, it's like, everything just checks out, man, for, for me to be able to succeed and get 2,000 yards.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  And then our offensive line too though, you throw them in at the beginning of the season when nobody's hurt, you know, everybody coming in fresh and it just, like I said, it just made my job a whole lot easier.

• 7:01Fred Taylor?

  You had two seasons with more than 1,700 yards. We had Coach McDaniel's on the show and he had nothing but high praise, but your receivers coach, Wes Welker, who played with Randy Moss.

• 7:13Speaker 04

  Right.

• 7:13Fred Taylor?

  He had the highest praise.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:15Fred Taylor?

  When he said, "You're the best receiver he ever seen."

• 7:17Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:18Fred Taylor?

  And we had a debate with Floyd Mayweather about Jerry Rice, who's the GOAT? Jerry Rice, Randy Moss?

• 7:24Speaker 04

  I gotta say Moss. I gotta say Moss.

• 7:26Fred Taylor?

  I mean, you gonna say, but, but, that's not where I'm going, but thank you for that.

• 7:30Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:30Fred Taylor?

  We appreciate you for that.

• 7:32Speaker 04

  I love Jerry though. I love Jerry. I'm a part of GOAT fuel or whatever. I love Jerry. I appreciate that. Thank you for the opportunity. You know what I'm saying? But growing up as a kid, Moss.

• 7:40Fred Taylor?

  So Moss is your GOAT?

• 7:42Speaker 04

  Moss is my GOAT, man. And then, A.B.

• 7:46Fred Taylor?

  Okay.

• 7:46Speaker 04

  A lot of people may not like that, A.B. for me, man.

• 7:49Ryan Clark?

  To me, I played with him and I, I had the, he had the greatest statistical six-year run of any wide receiver in the history of the game. And there were things, we obviously know some of the off the field stuff, some of the things he went through. As a receiver, tell me why you say that about A.B. because I agree that I think he, I think he's one of the best ever pound-for-pound players that's played in this league.

• 8:11Speaker 04

  I mean, for me though, being like a younger player and just looking up to A.B. and actually knowing A.B. earlier in my career, I would just watch, watch him like outside of, you know, people knowing him, you know what I'm saying? And building like that younger brother relationship. And he taught me a lot, man, from me just working my tail off, because if you, if you really like watch A.B. whenever he was on his six-year run or whatever, he worked his tail off. He worked with a lot of people outside of his antics off the field. Like, the guy is really like a true underdog story, for real though. And, you know, I, I just try to model myself after, you know, everything that he did for like all the short receivers across the league, because it, it's tough to be a shorter receiver in the league, man. Like, when I first got to Kansas City, it was a lot of things that they didn't want

• 8:56Speaker 04

  me to do, because I, I was like, "Oh, you're not a certain height." And then it got to a point where like, I had to do one-on-ones every day or work my tail off every day to, to show them that, "Hey, I may not be 6'4", 6'1" or 6'2", but I'm able to get to this spot and catch the ball, and I may even score with that motherfucker.

• 9:14Ryan Clark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:15Speaker 04

  Yo' 6'2" receiver, he just gonna catch it. Me? I'm gonna catch that motherfucker and I'm gonna try to get drunk off the yak. And that's something that I try to model my game off of A.B. You feel me? Because he's just... Dude, dude is an inspiration to me, man.

• 9:28Fred Taylor?

  We all, we all agree with you on the A.B. sentiment. You know, he's an amazing talent. And you're talking about your hard work, which is the reason for those comments from Wes. He sees you every day, he saw Moss every day. When you hear those comments, what or how does that make you feel?

• 9:43Speaker 04

  That's just some bullshit, man. We get that receiver rumor, man. Wes had changed that shit up on my ass.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  For real. For my position, Coach, to say that about me, that makes me feel amazing, man. But I still know that I got a long way to go, you know, to be able to accomplish the same, some of, some of the things that those guys have done, man. Like, I feel like I'm just scratching the surface now. Going to Kansas City really helped me out, you know, helped me learn the game a lot. And then, just being in Miami, just transferring into a new role as a leader. And just trying to help the younger guys out become better, man. So, yeah, I got a long way to go, I feel like, before I enter into that realm of receivers.

• 10:24Ryan Clark?

  We all know that, you know, you're a dog. And I want to get into sort of the underdog story as we go forward. But this year on Hard Knocks, you talked about working to mature as a man. You know, and they had you sitting at your kitchen table. You were trying to do business deals and do some, some other things outside of the football field, become the family man you wanted to be. How much do you feel you've grown since entering the league? And having people question who the person Tyreek Hill was to where you are now?

• 10:58Speaker 04

  It's tough, man. I tell you what, like, from where I was and to where I am now, it's probably like, it, it is a testament to God. My whole career, well, my whole entire life, all I ever wanted to do was just play football. You know, I grew up in the church. My grandparents took me to church every day. Played the drums in the church. Lead sang in the church. Praise danced, all that, man. And, you know, God blessed me with everything that I ever wanted. You know, I made it to the NFL. I'm meeting some of my favorite, you know, icons, legends or whatever. And I'm making a name for myself. And going from the kid to entering the league to...

• 11:40Speaker 04

  I just had like a couple of bad years of just losing myself. Like, I feel like I lost my true, I lost my true self. You know what I'm saying? Like, from what my grandparents raised me to be when I entered the league. And I completely forgot, you know, my relationship with God. And it really showed. It really showed, man. Like, I mean, I met my wife now. When I first got into the league, that's when I met my wife. That was before Tyreek here, before anything. And then we got engaged, and I was married. And I kind of had a few rough years where I said I lost my relationship with God. And I fell off. And then I just told myself, man, as the years went on, it was like, bro, at some point, man,

• 12:22Speaker 04

  like, you gotta, you gotta make a commitment to God, bro, at some point. Because he has given you all these great things, and you have yet to serve him the same way your grandparents taught you. And this year, well, last year, starting at the beginning of last year, when I got signed with the Dolphins, I made a commitment to myself, me and my wife. I said, we're gonna build our relationship with God. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna go to church every Sunday and every Wednesday. And I have been doing that. I'm gonna clean my life up, no partying, no girls. And everything's been perfect, man. Like, everything I've ever wanted has ever, it's starting to come back for me. You feel me? Because having, because having off-field situations, you lose a lot of opportunities. Yep.

• 13:05Speaker 04

  But me being able to clean up my life, you know, show people who I really am, because that's who the Chiefs got. When I first got to the Chiefs, the Chiefs got, you know, happy, eager to learn, eager to, you know, just be me, man, like a church-going kid. But then I slowly drifted off as the success began to come. And my grandparents, they was like, hey, slow down now. Slow, slow down. And I didn't listen. And it kept going, kept going, kept going. I said, nah, it's like, all that stuff is not even worth it sometimes, bro. Like, you got, like, you got everything you need. You feel me? God will put everything you need in front of you. And he has done that. You know, from my wife, my kids, my support system with my grandparents. And so far, it's been awesome, man.

• 13:50Channing Crowder?

  What do you think it was, though? But you said success. Was it the money? Was it the success? Was it the attention?

• 13:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I would say that. I just didn't know how to deal with it. Like, I didn't know how to, like, control it. I didn't know how to control, like, the success, the money, the women. I didn't know how to control any of it. I just let it all get to me. You feel me? Like, then when my boys come around, it'd be like, hey, man, where we going tonight? And it's like, it's on, it's on me. I mean, I ain't gonna spend no money on them, but, you know what I'm saying? I don't give nobody no money. You feel me? But when it's time to go have a good time, we going. We sliding. You feel me? And it was like, I put, I put that as the most important thing instead of putting what's important. You know what I'm saying? Which is my family. You feel me? Granted, I'm a family man. I'mma always spend time with them, but it's like, they gonna be there. Like, just let them be over there.

• 14:38Speaker 04

  And you gonna spend time with your beautiful wife, your beautiful kids. You'll be all right, man. So, I just, I don't know. I just, I don't know. I just wanted to try to play the middleman of both, when really, I was really on this side with the friends instead of being on this side.

• 14:53Ryan Clark?

  It's like the, like the Bible say about being lukewarm. You know what I mean? And that, you know, God will spit you out. Like, I think it is difficult for that. I know you had something to say, T.

• 15:03Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, no, I was gonna say, I know Chan kinda beat me to it, cuz I wanna ask him, is it really more money, more problem? I mean, we made a lot of money. But you made a lot, making a lot of money. The 100 million, I like, that's crazy. But certain things are, serve as a reminder to get you back to, you know, where you need to be. So to ensure that you don't lose those blessings. I wanted to kinda get into, me, I'm, I'm a fan. And I'm a fan of your speed and all that you do on the field and everything else. But there was, once upon a time, it was a story of a man who outran a cheetah in a 120-yard race.

• 15:38Speaker 04

  A 120-yard race?

• 15:40Ryan Clark?

  A real cheetah?

• 15:41Fred Taylor?

  A cheetah accelerates 0 to 60 in 3 seconds.

• 15:44Speaker 04

  How long? So a guy outran a real cheetah?

• 15:47Fred Taylor?

  Yes, in a 120-yard.

• 15:49Speaker 04

  There's no way.

• 15:50Fred Taylor?

  He was just inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame.

• 15:54Speaker 04

  You talking about Devin Hester?

• 15:55Fred Taylor?

  Devin Hester.

• 16:00Fred Taylor?

  Now, serious, bruh.

• 16:02Channing Crowder?

  I don't know about that.

• 16:02Fred Taylor?

  It was, it was, it was 30 yards and it was down back, down back and he beat the cheater. It was done by National Geographic.

• 16:09Ryan Clark?

  He told the cheater to run the shuttle.

• 16:10Speaker 04

  I mean.

• 16:11Fred Taylor?

  I'm, I'm, I'm just telling he outran the cheater. I just asked him if he knew the story.

• 16:15Speaker 04

  I never heard that story. By the way, if you want to confirm anything, me and Devin Hester had the same special team coordinator. I, I had David Toad, who was with the Chiefs. And Devin Hester had David Toad when he was in Chicago. I asked, I said, "Coach Toad, who found to keep it a hundred with me?" He was like, "Obviously you, man, but Devin is the better returner though." That kind of hurt me when he said that. I was like, "Bro, what?" He was like, "Yeah, man, Devin's the better returner."

• 16:40Fred Taylor?

  Did he ever miss returning?

• 16:42Speaker 04

  Oh, me?

• 16:42Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 16:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, some, sometimes I do. You know what I'm saying? Because in, in the return game, there'd be so many opportunities out there. You feel me? And all you gotta do is really just beat the gunners and you, you home, man. Just run by the fast guys, cause the big guys like Chandler, they can't, they can't break.

• 16:59Ryan Clark?

  Hey, you talking next.

• 17:00Channing Crowder?

  I ran up on Devin at UM and he got the hell on.

• 17:04Ryan Clark?

  Look how easy you said it though. All you gotta do is beat the gunners. If it was that simple, it'd be more people other than Devin Hester who just got inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I have a question. You mentioned people try to take advantage of when you're not 100%. And the first thing came to mind when you said that was Legereus Snead.

• 17:25Ryan Clark?

  He's crossed the line from you, he's in press coverage, jump jams you, you fall, you get up, say a little something, you throw a little push. When you, when you are in moments like that, knowing how good you are, how talented you are, how fast, how explosive, people don't normally get their hands on you like that.

• 17:42Speaker 04

  Right.

• 17:43Ryan Clark?

  When that happens, is it a little bit of embarrassment? Are you pissed off? Do you want to throw hands? How does something like that make you feel in that moment?

• 17:52Speaker 04

  I mean, for me, man, I was definitely pissed off, but at the same time, though, I gotta be mindful that the game continues, though. The game has to continue. I can't let no kind of feelings between me and you, you know what I'm saying, happen. Because you may win some reps, and I'm gonna win some reps. But at the end of the day, I gotta make sure I win more reps than you. You feel me? So at that moment, it was just like, damn, this dude really just jammed the shit out of me in this damn cold. Like, your hands don't hurt, bro? You feel me? So what's going on? But we got back to the sideline, like, soon as I sat on, motherfucker brought an iPad to me and was like, this you right here? I was like, hey, bro, not right now, not right now, bro. Not right now, not right now. Not right now. I was hoping nobody seen it, but apparently, everybody seen it.

• 18:36Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, they had the close-up joint on you, man. It was an ISO cam on y'all, too. I mean, it's two all-pros, but we are here now, man, and you said during the season that you felt the team you were on was better than the Kansas City Chiefs team that you were on.

• 18:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:53Ryan Clark?

  When you look at the talent and those things. So what is the difference? Because that team reached the ultimate goal.

• 19:01Speaker 04

  Right.

• 19:02Ryan Clark?

  And this Miami team did not.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  Well, it just, I will say this, the Kansas City team is a much more, you know, older team, more veteran team. And their coaching staff has a little bit more experience than, you know what I'm saying? So we got a young team, they got a little bit older team, I feel like. They got an older coaching staff. We got a kind of a younger coaching staff, man. So it just takes, you know, reps, you know? I feel like the more opportunities that we, you know, continue to produce for ourselves, which is making it to the playoffs, we'll be better, man. And then also, we just gotta win, you know, those key games. Like, we lost against the Titans, we were supposed to win that one. Lost against the Bills, we were supposed to win that one.

• 19:46Speaker 04

  If we win those two games, then we're not talking about Kansas City. We're talking about a whole nother situation. We're talking about a home playoff game in Miami. So if we just take care of the games that we're supposed to take care of... Then we'll be alright. Now, we are, I will say, we are, the Dolphins is a better team than the Chiefs though.

• 20:04Ryan Clark?

  I'm thinking of the Chiefs teams you were on. You say the Dolphins were better than the team that beat y'all this year.

• 20:08Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 20:09Ryan Clark?

  No, that's not true.

• 20:10Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 20:11Ryan Clark?

  Tyreek, you played them.

• 20:13Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 20:14Ryan Clark?

  You played them.

• 20:15Speaker 04

  I did.

• 20:16Ryan Clark?

  You were doing shows with us, very well, might I add, and they're in the Super Bowl.

• 20:24Speaker 04

  Hey, the better team don't always go to the Super Bowl, that's all I gotta say.

• 20:27Fred Taylor?

  See, that's why you my dog and my neighbor, I love that. I feel like we was better than the Titans.

• 20:33Ryan Clark?

  Only people who've never gone to the Super Bowl say that, so I'm shocked.

• 20:36Fred Taylor?

  We can't talk like this every episode.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  The better team always don't go to the Super Bowl.

• 20:40Channing Crowder?

  The team that gets more points wins the game, Bree.

• 20:43Fred Taylor?

  And now y'all got Alicia back here talking about that truth.

• 20:45Speaker 04

  So what y'all saying, the Ravens, the Chiefs are better than the Ravens?

• 20:48Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, cuz they beat them.

• 20:49Speaker 04

  Man, come on, man.

• 20:50Channing Crowder?

  Bro, the Ravens was, I had, we picked them, we did it, picked them, but they, but the Chiefs beat the Ravens.

• 20:55Speaker 04

  This shit, any given Sunday, you know it. It's any given Sunday, man. Whichever team is prepared the best and got their mindset to go out there and dominate, that's what team gonna win. You feel me? That's what team gonna win.

• 21:07Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 04

  I just feel that way. The Ravens are, I don't even know their team, but if you look at them defensively, both defenses match up real good, right? Then you look at the offense, like Ravens offense are way better, bro. Now you got Pat and Kelsey, but besides that, like, but I think we better than the Chiefs though.

• 21:25Ryan Clark?

  You mentioned Pat and Trev, you didn't like being the side chick?

• 21:31Speaker 04

  Nah, I ain't like that. I really don't enjoy that too much, man. See, I'm used to being the main chick, for real. I've been like that my whole life, man.

• 21:38Channing Crowder?

  My home's in my auto, you could've been my auto.

• 21:43Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 21:45Fred Taylor?

  You made it to Miami, you took on a leadership role, even being vocal, you know, going out on a limb, talking about your quarterback, and how well, you know, he throws the ball, precision, accuracy, the whole thing. You even, I believe you tweeted after somebody said your QB was thicker than a snicker.

• 22:03Speaker 04

  I'm so glad we getting into that now, bro.

• 22:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, why did you say that about him, bruh?

• 22:15Speaker 04

  Why did you say that, man? I mean...

• 22:17Channing Crowder?

  We here, man. We having a good time.

• 22:20Speaker 04

  Tua, Tua built different. He is. I got my man back. I will, I will say this, Tua does game way easy. Like, from me knowing him.

• 22:27Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, whoa, so, my closest teammate when I played was Troy Palamalu, who's also Polynesian. And I've been to American Samoa twice for camps, like, there are bigger people, right? That's why you see so many of the Polynesians that have been great football players and NFL players have played D-line and offensive line. And so, I fell into being into the, in the locker room, right? Because if I'm, if I'm a Miami Dolphins and we in the locker room and we making jokes or whatever like that, that's a joke I tell, right? And talking about Tua, that's a, that's something that, you know, I've said to Troy or we say to Casey Hampton, because he was, like, chanting all the time when he talks about me, he treats me like I'm a stripper, right?

• 23:11Ryan Clark?

  Like, we, we, we in a restaurant.

• 23:13Channing Crowder?

  He built like an ant that stands up on his back feet.

• 23:15Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, like, yeah, we, we in a restaurant one time, we closed the restaurant down, he screaming my name, because he's like, "Man, I don't want you to get kidnapped, because they gonna try to F you."

• 23:24Speaker 04

  They'll abduct him.

• 23:25Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So like, I don't, yeah, so, you know what I mean? So the, so my mindset up there, like, it was happening quick, you know what I mean? I was like, dang, Tua, like, he's thick. And I was like, and it's kind of all lower half. And I was just like, like a chick that work at Onyx. And it just kind of sort of came out, and I moved on from it.

• 23:42Speaker 04

  That's it, you moved on.

• 23:43Ryan Clark?

  You know what I'm saying? Like, to me, it was just, you say a little joke, you move on. Now I give my analysis on how he plays football. And when it all blew up, I was like, damn. And at first, like, like any other thing, you want to defend your stance, right? So I was like, I really was just joking. Like, it wasn't, it wasn't a big deal to me. And then you start to see more people get upset about it. And the next thing is, like, all of us who consider ourselves tough individuals, I was like, well, I would tell him that. Right, like I'd say it to him, which I would. And then the adult in me goes, but if something I say on TV.

• 24:18Speaker 04

  He ready to get aggressive.

• 24:19Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, well, I was.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  He ready to get aggressive.

• 24:21Ryan Clark?

  If something I say, if something I say on TV.

• 24:24Speaker 04

  He got a little pitbull in him, man.

• 24:25Ryan Clark?

  Or about someone is taken that way, and I didn't mean it to have that effect. Also gotta be an adult and say I'm wrong and have that awareness. And so I did, and we talked on the phone and we chopped it up. But I swear to you, Reek, it really was just like watching him play. I was like, dang, Tua, Tua got a little thick. And then the way my mind works, you know, I was like, oh, I said that and it goes away. But yeah, man, it became a bigger deal.

• 24:51Speaker 04

  Right, it was a big deal.

• 24:52Ryan Clark?

  And they were talking about, man, was gonna use his judo on me.

• 24:54Speaker 04

  Man, them boy had posters of you in the locker room, they was like, what? Hey, you was gonna get it, bro. You was gonna get it, bro. He was like, the next time he say my name on TV, it's on. I was like, Tua?

• 25:11Speaker 04

  I was like, let me get Rhonda number. Hey, say that again one more time. Whatever you said, do it again.

• 25:16Ryan Clark?

  He was on the on-site list.

• 25:18Speaker 04

  Man, yeah, man, okay, okay, okay, on-site.

• 25:23Fred Taylor?

  See, that's the beauty of it. It wasn't more even about what that comment was, because it's so far gone. You know, he's since seen Tua at the Provo games.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's gone, man.

• 25:34Fred Taylor?

  But it really was just to highlight the fact that you defend your guys in the locker room, and it's always high praise for where you at, which is a great sign of, you know, where you need to be.

• 25:44Ryan Clark?

  His arm is too short, though.

• 25:46Speaker 04

  You sure, bro?

• 25:47Ryan Clark?

  His arm is too short.

• 25:48Speaker 04

  You sure, bro?

• 25:49Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I'm gonna keep him off of it with the jab.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  You just seen Mayweather the other day.

• 25:54Fred Taylor?

  You don't think Reek can throw? Huh?

• 25:55Ryan Clark?

  No, I believe he can fight.

• 25:56Speaker 04

  I just seen Mayweather the other day, though.

• 25:57Ryan Clark?

  I believe he can fight, but I saw where Legere's got him. It was all about length.

• 26:03Channing Crowder?

  They did you bad on that.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  And when Ree jumped up, when Ree jumped up to push him, he had to jump. Cause he wanted to.

• 26:11Channing Crowder?

  Cause he wanted to. They did you bad on him.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  He jumped up to push him. I said, oh, he can't even, he can't even get to his face, man. I was like, shoot, I'm good. I got, it's just him and two of them. Hey, Logan Paul, sit up the boxing mat, man. Sit up the boxing mat, man.

• 26:26Channing Crowder?

  Like we were talking about the KC to Miami. How, how was that decision made? I'm from Miami. I'd have had you on my radio show and all that. Like we were, the, the city was jacked up that you made that decision. But how was that decision made? Cause like right now, Andy's a, Andy's a Hall of Famer.

• 26:41Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:41Channing Crowder?

  If Andy sit down right now, Hannibal goes to Hall of Fame. And then you come to Miami. How was that decision made?

• 26:48Speaker 04

  It was a family decision, man. It was just one of those, you know, um, what's gonna be the better long-term situation? You know, for my family, you know, really all of us, you feel me? So we looked at it as, as far as like, okay, if we go to Miami, it's gonna be a new community, obviously.

• 27:07Speaker 04

  And you're looking in, you're looking into getting into like the, the whole brand space. You feel me? Cause the brand space in KC is already taking over. Let's be real. Pat, Kelsey, they, they already took that over. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta look at it as an aspect of, okay, while you're playing and then after you're done playing, is there, you know, a certain area of space that you would like to take up? And I was like, yeah, like Miami's perfect. You know, I got family in Miami and there's so much, so, so many opportunities in Miami, especially if we start winning. Cause I, I was looking at it automatically like, look, we gonna win, you know, regardless. And that's gonna bring up the momentum of just everything that, that I'm trying to get accomplished outside of football. So that, that was really how the decision was made. The money was already good.

• 27:51Speaker 04

  Like once they said highest paid receiver, I was like, yeah, lock that in. So now let's look at the off-field situation. Like how does that look? Like how does our future look? And we talked about it, me, Drew, my wife and we moved forward with it. It was tough now. It was tough now, but.

• 28:08Ryan Clark?

  Why was it tough? You said you was gonna get paid no matter what.

• 28:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, man, like, yeah, like, this is something that I always dreamed of, getting paid, you know, the highest paid or whatever, man, but it's also tough, you know, leaving, leaving back, you know, what we had started, you know what I'm saying, in Kansas City with, with just how special it was, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, Kansas City was a team that drafted me in the fifth round. That was a team that really gave me my opportunity to do what I'm about to do now. So it's like, just looking back over all that, man, so it was definitely tough. I'm telling you, it was tough.

• 28:39Ryan Clark?

  When we saw you, though.

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• 29:40Ryan Clark?

  So you was like, hey, man, if y'all want the Kat Williams wide receivers, put me on the show. First off, Kat Williams talked like he had some sense on Club Shay. He said, you been talking like you had some sense. But what did, what did you, what did you mean by that, though? Because you have been one to speak your mind about certain things that other players won't.

• 30:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, man, I just feel like everybody's opinion should be heard sometimes, like, even though, like, you shouldn't be afraid of, you know, another man's judgment, no matter what, you know what I'm saying? I feel like the only judgment you should be worried about is God's, and that's how I look at it, and.

• 30:20Speaker 04

  When I said I wanna be the Kat Williams of the NFL, I mean that. Like, so if y'all ask me a juicy question, shit, I'm gonna cross my legs up and then I'm gonna get to talking like Kat Williams. Well, I'm gonna say, well, um, yeah, we gonna move on. We gonna talk about it, so.

• 30:34Ryan Clark?

  I do have a question about, cause Fred mentioned leadership. The stardom of football players now is higher than it's ever been.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:44Ryan Clark?

  You see it with your former teammate Travis Kelce. He's transcended.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 30:48Ryan Clark?

  The football field. When you think of paparazzis, gossip blog, all these different things, we see you on there a lot now. Whether it be about decision-making that could be true, about your marriage, those things. And then, you know, we walk in that Pro Bowl and I was like, he looked happy as hell to me. So does his wife look happy as hell. How do you deal now with being a figure that people are gonna write about, people are gonna talk about, people are gonna start rumors about? And how have you handled that inside your home?

• 31:19Speaker 04

  Well, remember when I said that about going to church? You know, being able to go listen to the word of God? And me and my wife, we told each other that we just gotta keep our faith strong, man. Like, no matter, you know, what people say about us, it's gonna happen. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what happens when people wanna, you know, be nosy or try to find out like what's really going on. Especially with a guy with a past like mine, like, a lot of people, they wanna see, hey, is she happy? Is she okay? Like, and it's like, bro, like, at the end of the day, bro, only two things I'm worried about is my wife, eh, and then us going to church. And so far, we've been real consistent with that. Granted, everything else that done happened to us. And we done had a tough 2024, me and my wife. Like, I tell her that all the time.

• 32:02Speaker 04

  I say, look, we done had our house burnt down, motherfucking, in the news about a divorce. It's like, damn, 2024 ain't going how it's supposed to be going. But I know it's for a reason, though. I tell her, like, it's gonna be beautiful. The end of, all of this is gonna be beautiful, and I know it. And maybe we just need a fresh start, just me and you. That's probably what it is, but I haven't laid my hand on it, but.

• 32:21Ryan Clark?

  People saying you're getting divorced and it's very public, people now looking at you, looking at her, how do two people deal with that?

• 32:30Speaker 04

  Just communication, just having open communication. You know, sometimes, we all know in relationships, there's gonna be agreements and disagreements. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying, I made it, I made it to where in our household that there're gonna be certain situations where she...

• 32:49Speaker 04

  Is always right and, and well, not right, but I would say she is making like full decisions and sometimes it's gonna be me making decisions. And when we come together, we gotta be able to, you know, agree to disagree. So we just try to live by that, man. Like, nobody's right. We always gotta have open communication, even when it's tough. You know what I'm saying? And obviously, we had conversations about, you know, um, a posting up. And that was really where it all spiraled from, like a divorce or whatever. I don't like saying that word, but that's really where it all spiraled from. Like, and that was...

• 33:31Speaker 04

  All I'm gonna say is shit get weird is when you tell people outside your family. You feel me? That's, that's when shit get weird. Like, so if you telling mom, dad, sister, "Ay, post..." And da, da, da, da, da. Then they gonna go tell somebody else. Then it's gonna go, it's gonna leak out eventually. So for us, it's like, we try to keep our, right here. You know what I'm saying? We gonna tell y'all what we want y'all to know. And so far, it's been good, man. Like, we still learning that as we go, cuz we still fresh in the marriage thing. You know what I'm saying? We, we try to go to couples therapy. You know what I'm saying? So we can learn a little bit more. We try to ask other married couples, like, "Ay," like, certain questions. So we still learning, man.

• 34:14Fred Taylor?

  I love the fact that you're trying to, you know, solidify your future by building and strengthening your foundation. And what keeps jumping out, jumping out is faith. I wanna, I wanna kinda go back, cuz usually, we try to allow our viewers, like, an opportunity to, like, really get to know someone outside of, of football. But, no, let's pivot. Your journey was a bit different. Like, you had some adverse moments.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:39Fred Taylor?

  Coming up in a small town, raised by a single mom. Like, take us through those moments where you really had to step out on faith in your upbringing, going to, uh, Garden City, you know, CC, and then, you know, kinda lead us through that.

• 34:53Speaker 04

  Well, me going to Grand, Garden City, man, it was, it was something definitely that I didn't wanna do at the time, you know, cuz I was raised by my grandparents. And my granddad, he was... He was, he was kinda like me. He was like, he was in and out. He was, he was had a rough life, you feel me? But, one thing he made sure to do is take care of all his kids. That's one thing my granddad always did. So go, going to Garden City, I didn't, I really didn't wanna do it because, you know, I'm, I'm, I was raised by my grandma and I wanted, I wanted to stay around my grandmother and help my grandmother. I told her, I was like, "Look, I got a job at Wendy's, you know what I'm saying? I can work there for a few years, then I can go to college." You know what I'm saying? But my grandma, she ain't see it that way though. She was like, "Look, don't worry about me. I was here in this world before you and I'm gonna be here after you."

• 35:37Speaker 04

  Well, not after you, but she was like, "I'm, I was here before you and I figured it out," or whatever, so. I didn't wanna go to Garden City at all, man, but it was, it was kinda like a moment where like, it was like, "Bro, if, if I look at my life and where I'm from, there's literally nobody in my city that has made it anywhere, like to the NFL, like, anywhere like that's successful." It was just one of those moment where my grandma, she used to pray a lot. She used to say, "Aight, we gonna pray about it." We prayed about it. I went to Garden City and I didn't like it at first. It was like so far from home, I didn't know nobody. Then, that's when I got close with Nick Marshall. Y'all know, y'all remember Nick Marshall?

• 36:19Speaker 04

  He was a quarterback from Auburn. Me and him got close. Then I was cool then. Like, once I seen like other guys from like my, like, from like, from like my neighborhood, cuz he from like my neighborhood, I was cool. You know what I'm saying? I balled out at Garden City and I ended up committing to go to Oklahoma State, went to Oklahoma State for a year. I got in trouble at Oklahoma State. Transferred. Transferred to West Alabama and I'm in the NFL. It was crazy. I only, I only went to West Alabama for like three months. I ain't go to school or nothing. I was just there for the football team. I literally showed up, I literally showed up one day before the first football game. One day before the first football game. No training camp, nothing?

• 37:00Speaker 04

  No training camp, no nothing. I, I, I haven't trained or nothing, cuz after I had got kicked at Oklahoma State, I had sat for like a whole... Six months and I was trying to decide where I wanted to go to school because no school would take me. I had just got dismissed. So finally, West Alabama, they, the president, he accepted me the day before the game and they called me. I live like eight hours away. They was like, can you be here before the first game? I got in my car, me and my grandma, we drove up, got there to the game. I was like, can I play? He was like, yeah, you can play. I was like, I don't know the plays though. He was like, all right, we gonna put you in a kickoff return. I had scored two kickoff returns that game. I ain't know what I was out there been doing.

• 37:42Speaker 04

  I was like, I went out there to the guys. I looked them all in the face. I say, all right, look, y'all just get on somebody, bro. Y'all just touch somebody. That's all I need y'all to do. Took him to the crib every time. D2 was wild though. It was wild though.

• 37:56Ryan Clark?

  Talk a little bit about that, that phone call in the fifth round. You know, you, you mentioned your past earlier. Part of that was a domestic dispute in college and the reason you weren't at Oklahoma State. You go to West Alabama. You go to a, an organization who had one of the more horrific domestic violence incidents in all of football.

• 38:24Speaker 04

  Right.

• 38:25Ryan Clark?

  What was sort of those conversations about Tyreek the person with Andy Reid and the organization when they drafted you?

• 38:32Speaker 04

  Coach Reid, he, he's real honest and upfront with you. You know what I'm saying? Like, one thing he told my parents was, you know, I said, I'm gonna take care of him just like he my own son. And he, and he held his word too though. Like, he took care of me and he gave me advice just like he was one of my parents. And that's, that's, that's one of the most admirable things I can, you know, respect, you know, about him as a man, dawg. You know what I'm saying? Like, he really took care of me. But I really can't speak too much about what he said, but he was just, he was just like, you know, like when you come here, like make sure you understand the situation that you're in. You feel me? Like, we gave a small-town kid an opportunity and I don't want you to mess that up. Granted, if you are not on this team, you know what I'm saying? I want you to be successful in

• 39:15Speaker 04

  this league because I know you can. So me and him would have our conversations and chop it up. And that was it, man. Like, he was real close to my granddad. Like, my granddad, he's still alive, but, you know, he was real close to my granddad. Like, make, make sure he all right because they about around the same age. So. How did they find you? Because he was fast.

• 39:35Fred Taylor?

  I know, but yeah, a lot of people, he's fast, fast, but did you get invited to the combine?

• 39:42Speaker 04

  No, so I didn't get invited to the combine. I would have broke that so easy. I would have broke that. I'm so mad. Adidas would have owed me a. What is it? Is it 424?

• 39:51Fred Taylor?

  22, right?

• 39:51Speaker 04

  422, John Rose. 422, John Rose. But yeah. Tyreek, you wasn't running 41. Yes, bro, I'm telling you, man. I was like buck 70 then. Buck 70 then. So, yeah. But I went to like two pro days. So, I went to pro day at University of Alabama, which was 35 minutes from the college I went to, West Alabama. Then I drove to South Alabama pro day, and that's where Kansas City Chiefs was. You feel me? And I ran a, I think I ran a 42 at the South Alabama, and then I was catching the ball. That's when I played running back, though. I wasn't, I wasn't running receiver routes. I was doing all running back stuff.

• 40:31Speaker 04

  And then I guess when I got to the Chiefs, they was like, we just gonna move you to receiver. And I just worked my tail off to be a receiver.

• 40:37Channing Crowder?

  Through the stories you just took it through, you had to doubt yourself at some point. Getting kicked out of school, not, not even being there to play, having to drive 8 hours with your grandma to go play in the first. You had to have doubted yourself at some point.

• 40:48Speaker 04

  Bro, look, check this out. So, when I had got kicked out, like my grandmother, like, I'm gonna tell you, like, I'm gonna tell you how every, like, faith is real. I'm telling you, faith is real. My grandparents, they made sure to put that faith in me all up until my life, man. Like, so when I got kicked out, like, me and my granddad, so my granddad had a job at like a sawmill. He was like, he used to make fences. He would put the lumber inside of a drill, and it would do the work for him. So, I ended up getting a job there, you know what I'm saying? Like, right after I got kicked out, because I wanted to help my grandma, you know what I'm saying? So, my grandma, she back praying. She back praying. Like, I'm back going to church, doing my normal thing. I was real embarrassed too, though.

• 41:31Speaker 04

  Because when you get kicked out of school, going back to the crib, everybody like, ah, we knew it. There you go. He's back.

• 41:38Speaker 06

  Only took what, four months?

• 41:40Speaker 04

  Especially in a small town.

• 41:41Speaker 06

  Let it go to his head. He knew it.

• 41:43Speaker 04

  But then when they see you, they're like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You were the one." My mindset, it was like me and my grandparents the whole time, you know what I'm saying? And we went to church, we prayed. I had to get a job. Me and my granddad would wake up at 4 a.m. every morning. We'll go to work, we'll come home by 5. And, you know, like me and my grandma, we would just have talks. And I used to just be like, "Man, like, I really think my life is like over. Like, I really wanted to play football." Like, that was probably the funnest time I had in my life. She'd be like, "Yeah, but this is just a test, you know what I'm saying? To really see how strong you is." And like, she would tell me that every day, and I'd be like, "Man, you just talking, man. Like, you just talking."

• 42:25Speaker 04

  And then I just started filling out college applications again. Like, this is when I began to start calling colleges. And I got a lot of no's, a lot of no's. Like, "Yeah, you real talented, but just can't take you because of the kind of incident that you had." You know what I'm saying? So, when West Alabama called me, I was like, "Hey, can you be here in two hours? I'm on the way." No questions asked. But there was some moments in there where it was like, I really think I'm done, bro. Like, I really think I'm just another person, you know what I'm saying? From my hood, who just didn't make it, you know what I'm saying? Like, he let everything get to him. He let the girls get to him, he let his friends get to him. He let going out, you know what I'm saying?

• 43:09Speaker 04

  Having a good time instead of prioritizing the things that are most important, you know what I'm saying? Get to him. And it is all full circle. And now it's like, now I know though. But I did have some weak moments in there.

• 43:24Ryan Clark?

  What is Tyreek Hill doing if he doesn't get the call from West Alabama?

• 43:30Speaker 04

  Probably going into the army, man.

• 43:32Ryan Clark?

  Really?

• 43:32Speaker 04

  Probably going into the army. You feel me? I don't know. Or probably on somebody's block, smoking weed every day, selling drugs, I don't know.

• 43:44Speaker 04

  Just being another fast hood hero like dang that dude play semi-pro? Yeah, he running 4-2. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, that dude.

• 43:51Ryan Clark?

  Do you ever think about that and really reflect on the blessing that it is to be where you are?

• 44:01Speaker 04

  Yes, sir. Every day. And that's probably why, you know, I play the way I play, man, because God has really brought me through the storm for real. Really brought me through the storm like everything I've been through. And I make sure that, you know, I just thank him by just working hard and just trying to inspire the youth. Like Ray Lewis said something to me, well, he said something to the whole AFC locker room, Ray Lewis did. He was like, every time you walk out that door, make sure you know that you're not doing it for you no more. You're doing it for those little kids that's watching all across the world. You're doing it for the fans that support you and pay their hard-earned money. So make sure before you walk out of that door on your hot horse, you know it's not about you.

• 44:43Speaker 04

  And that's something that I live by every day. Like I've been living like that. You feel me? Because I could have been on the streets, I could have been, Lord knows well, man. But here I am, right here. I'm standing right here in front of you, talking to y'all, small-town kid, talking to you guys. After everything I've been through, man. After everything I've done. Like God has blessed me with just so much, man. And that's why I said 2024, me and my wife, I'm gonna commit my life to God. It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be tough. I'm gonna have some temptations in there where it's like, ah, I gotta reflect back. But I gotta stay the course, man, because what you just said, like I gotta be mindful of everything, man.

• 45:25Fred Taylor?

  As you're sitting here, you're starting to remind me a lot of, a lot like Jalen Ramsey. You know, two guys, both of you guys have won Super Bowls.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  That's my guy.

• 45:36Fred Taylor?

  Came in with a little bit more edge, you know what I'm saying, in your younger career.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:44Fred Taylor?

  What are the conversations like in the locker room with Jalen?

• 45:47Speaker 04

  Man, about winning all the time, you know, how we can get the team better, you know, or whether that's us going at it at practice, me and him every day to show the guys that you can never shy away from competition, or... You know, just trying to find, you know, different ways for the team to come together. So we can win a playoff game, man. And, you know, me and him, we really take pride in going, going against each other in front of the whole team. Like, we really do. Cause it's like, bro, like, you can't be scared to lose reps. You know what I'm saying? Like, you gonna have reps where you lose. You gonna have reps, you know, where they may not go your way. But it's all about, you know, how you bounce back and come back and do it the next play, bro.

• 46:28Speaker 04

  And that's really why Mike, I feel like, brought both of us, man. Cause both of us are so fundamentally and technical with our craft. It's like, now, we gotta step into that role of teaching all the guys around us. Like, I gotta, I'm teaching Waddle, like, how to be a pro. I'm teaching Waddle, you know, how to play a full seventeen game, eighteen game season, bro. Like, cause he's, he's very important. I feel like he's just as important as, as I am. You feel me? Like, he's, he's that dude. And I wanna see him succeed. I wanna see him get paid. I wanna see him, you know, win games. Like, I wanna, I want, I want all the guys on the team to have the same feeling I had back when we won the Super Bowl. That's the best feeling ever, man.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  And that's something that, I don't know, it, it, it just felt amazing, man. So, that's what I want for all the guys.

• 47:19Ryan Clark?

  We, we definitely know about that, Tyreek, that amazing feeling. Not everybody here in our presence.

• 47:25Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 47:26Ryan Clark?

  Under, understands.

• 47:27Speaker 04

  God damn.

• 47:27Ryan Clark?

  That's like.

• 47:28Speaker 04

  Go ahead, it's your turn, Chan.

• 47:32Channing Crowder?

  That motherfucker got a Super Bowl ring. He wanna just always throw it at us.

• 47:36Speaker 04

  Hey, that Super Bowl ring feel good, man. I'm telling you, man. It's, it's different.

• 47:40Channing Crowder?

  It is.

• 47:41Speaker 04

  Now, what would you rather have? A Super Bowl ring? Or would you rather have a hundred million dollar contract? Two Super Bowl rings?

• 47:47Channing Crowder?

  Oh, a hundred million dollars.

• 47:52Fred Taylor?

  That's all we needed was that nod.

• 47:55Speaker 04

  I didn't agree. I just shook his hand, bro. I just shook his hand.

• 47:58Fred Taylor?

  But see, you can say that when you got both.

• 48:00Speaker 04

  What's that?

• 48:01Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, you know what I'm saying? When I got the ring and 100 mil. Trifecta.

• 48:04Channing Crowder?

  And to capitalize on both of it. Bro, you talking about 2024.

• 48:09Channing Crowder?

  Like I said, I'm down in Miami there. Bro, I'm sitting there one day on radio and the whole thing is about your goddamn house being on fire. Bro, what the hell happened?

• 48:19Speaker 04

  Bro, I was at practice when it happened. Shit, crazy. First off, I just want to say, Rick Ross, bruh, I don't, I can't vibe with you now, bruh. I can't fuck with you no more, bruh. Oh, my grandparents calling. Hello? What's up?

• 48:34Channing Crowder?

  What time we gonna be in Atlanta?

• 48:37Speaker 04

  Oh, uh, let me, let me call you back.

• 48:41Speaker 04

  Let me call you back, please. I love y'all.

• 48:45Speaker 04

  What time we gonna be in Atlanta?

• 48:47Fred Taylor?

  Hey, your grandparents talk loud, too. Yeah, it was that phone.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, uh, Rick Ross, man, like you ain't even come over. You had the audacity to talk to a fireman instead of come take. You got my number, bruh. You get on Twitter, post me all over Twitter, like after what me and my family went through. You supposed to be the neighbor, the neighborhood hero.

• 49:08Speaker 04

  But yeah, man, I was at practice.

• 49:10Fred Taylor?

  Freddie live there, too. Little him. That's funny. Freddie live there. You saw my story? Oh, okay. You see me say anything?

• 49:14Speaker 04

  He didn't say nothing.

• 49:16Fred Taylor?

  I didn't say a thing. I was getting the updates. Andy hit my line. By the time I got out there, it was 16 fire trucks. I was in the house. I was actually on the treadmill, uh, doing some cardio. I went out there. I'm like, what the fuck? I walked down. I'm like, oh, no, this ain't good. And then she was trying to get to work and, you know, I seen Rosé over there. I think it might be electrical because the smoke is dark.

• 49:40Speaker 04

  And then he gonna say something about we ain't stop on there.

• 49:44Speaker 04

  Yo, what's going on? Don't try to use me for promotion, man.

• 49:49Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, I see Real Z back there. But I was like, man, and then the next thing you know, I'm on the neighborhood. The community grouped me and they're talking about, well, now we gotta have our, because we got 24-hour armed security. There's like, we gotta get three of them in here. We gotta pay extra and we gotta do this and that. Fans start showing up.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  Bro.

• 50:05Fred Taylor?

  The news people out there for three days. I'm like, ain't no smoke.

• 50:08Speaker 04

  That was out there for a minute, bro.

• 50:09Fred Taylor?

  What's going on?

• 50:10Speaker 04

  To be honest, bro, like, I was at work and I still don't got the full story. I still don't got the full story. Like, I'm asking everybody in the house, what's going on? Everybody looking at me crazy. You feel me? So, going through that feeling right there, though, it was like the worst thing ever, though. Because it's like, everything that you work hard for, you know what I'm saying? The people, because I, I had like, my mom, my nephews, my sister. I had everybody living with me, you know what I'm saying? And my wife, she was gone at the moment. And it's like, people won't take care of your stuff the same way, you know what I'm saying? You would. And it's like, bro, like, that's the most hurtful feeling ever. Like, I, I try to like, be that nice guy where I like, take care of my family and help them out a little bit. But it's like, damn, bro, like, can you at least take care of my, the stuff that I work hard for, please?

• 50:52Fred Taylor?

  And it, it always comes back to the fact that, the good thing is, is isolated to that location. And, and thank God, nobody was...

• 51:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, everybody was safe.

• 51:01Fred Taylor?

  Correct, because it's all material at the, at the very end of the day. But, man, it was, I'm like, fuck, please don't let it fucking burn down completely.

• 51:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was...

• 51:10Fred Taylor?

  It looked, it looked pretty bad.

• 51:11Speaker 04

  That was the big thing. I was at practice, I was running a route, too. Like, I ran a route, because I, like, when I practiced, I, I got, I got my Apple Watch on. And I'm, when I'm running a route, I'm looking at my watch. My wife, she called me like, 10 times. I'm like, aw, she ain't want that. Then a message popped up. She said, "The house is on fire." I said, "House on fire?" Soon as I turned around, like, the, the Miami Dolphin security guy, Drew, Drew Brooks was right there. He was like, "Ree, let me tell you something." He's like, "Your house on fire." I took off running to the locker room. I'm saying, I took off running to the locker room, got in my car, went home, and I was like, oh my God. Then I seen everybody safe. I was like, okay, everybody good. But it was, it was definitely hard, though.

• 51:50Ryan Clark?

  But the fact that he said, "Rose," they said something about Wingstop on the joint.

• 51:56Channing Crowder?

  They got thighs now.

• 51:59Fred Taylor?

  It was all over the internet, like all the blog sites. The news gave you actual address.

• 52:04Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:05Fred Taylor?

  It was crazy, bro.

• 52:06Ryan Clark?

  I'm sorry to tell you, bro.

• 52:07Fred Taylor?

  They gave you the exact location.

• 52:08Ryan Clark?

  I'm sorry to tell you, bro. Like, we probably gonna have to move from there, bro.

• 52:11Fred Taylor?

  Yeah? It's all good, bro. It's not how it goes. You gonna get a bag for the crib, bro.

• 52:16Channing Crowder?

  You can't have money out there.

• 52:17Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 52:18Fred Taylor?

  You gonna get a bag.

• 52:19Channing Crowder?

  Okay, you can't have money out there.

• 52:21Ryan Clark?

  That boy is rich. I'm about to live on the outskirts of that.

• 52:26Channing Crowder?

  We had to go in together.

• 52:27Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. We gonna take the left wing.

• 52:32Fred Taylor?

  The good thing, y'all on a permanent list, both of y'all, so glad welcome back anytime.

• 52:36Ryan Clark?

  It'd be so hard to get y'all gate.

• 52:38Speaker 00

  Having uncontrolled eosinophilic esophagitis, or E O E, can mean you're stuck in many ways, like cutting your food into tiny pieces.

• 52:48Speaker 00

  Or stuck chewing food for a long time.

• 52:53Speaker 00

  Dupixent Dupilumab, a prescription medicine for patients one year and older weighing at least 33 pounds, can help with that. It's a breakthrough treatment that can reduce inflammation in the esophagus and improve swallowing.

• 53:06Speaker 00

  How about this? Dupixent is not a steroid. It proactively treats E O E, so you can get ahead of it.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Severe allergic reactions, including skin reactions, can occur. Get help right away if you have trouble breathing, or wheezing, or swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or throat. Tell your doctor of newer worsening joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection, or asthma. Don't change or stop other treatments without talking to your doctor.

• 53:26Speaker 00

  Feeling stuck with E O E? Start treating with Dupixent. Talk to your gastroenterologist or allergist today about Dupixent. Learn more at dupixent.com or call 1-844-DUPIXENT.

• 53:37Ryan Clark?

  When you got down, when he started to get healthy, you know, and you were on your streak of playing the way you were on your way to two Gs, I texted and I was like, "Say, bro." I was like, "Have you..." I was like, "What is Tyreek doing differently than other receivers?" And you know how Jalen talk? He said, "He said, 'Man, it's like nothing I've ever seen.'" And you know, Jalen, and he said, "And this from somebody that think he could lock him up." Yeah. You know what I mean? When Jalen says something like that about you, who was just coming from a team with Cooper Cup at OBJ, who was going crazy in the Super Bowl.

• 54:15Ryan Clark?

  In your honest opinion, with the Justin Jeffersons, the Jamar's, the Devontes, all of these players, is it Tyreek Hill and everybody else when it comes to the wide receiver position?

• 54:25Speaker 04

  Yes, and I say that because of I can do some of everything that they can do, but I feel like they can't do exactly what I can do, you feel me? There's value in the return game, there's value in, you know, coming out the edge to block a kick, like whatever you need, like in KC I was on the unsized kick team, like I'm on, I want to do everything, like whatever position is needed on the football field, Tyreek Hill want to do, I don't care how much money I make, like I want to, I want to add value to this team some kind of way because you can always use some speed somewhere, you know what I'm saying, that's my mindset, like when I came in I was a gunner, like, so I'm still in that mindset of, hey coach, let me go in and get some gunner reps sometime,

• 55:08Speaker 04

  bro, like, let me, let me go in there and feel this ball at the one yard line for, for the defense, man, let me be that guy, so that's why I say, I'm the best receiver at, I can block, I can, what, catch, what you want to do, high ball, I can do that, whatever, you know what I'm saying, so.

• 55:25Ryan Clark?

  How much do you feel people fear you? He says his best receiver was Randy Moss, or the greatest receiver, and I played Randy Moss, there was a level of fear when you walked onto the field, it feels the same way in the way defenses play you, do you have that feeling of, okay, when I'm out here, they understand it, like, they get it, they know who I am?

• 55:46Speaker 04

  It'd be sometimes, like when you play against a team like the Chiefs, like, we played against the Chiefs, it was one third down, like we was like in the middle of the field, they had two corners in front of me, then a safety over top, I was like, yo, like, what do I do? And, and the thing about it was, I was in the slot, so think about being in the slot with two dudes over you, the defensive end in here, like, so you can't release inside, you can't release outside because the outside receiver's there, it's like, what do I do at that point, bro?

• 56:17Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 56:18Speaker 04

  You feel me, so, as far as fear, I don't, I really don't know, man, because like we got too many weapons on the offense, you feel me, so many, it's so, it's so many, you know, people that can, you know, make an impact on this offense that you just can't key in on one guy, you got so many other guys, now, that'd be great if they keyed in on them, so that way I can eat.

• 56:37Channing Crowder?

  You ain't sneaking around nowhere. A little fast there.

• 56:41Channing Crowder?

  They don't see you out there. But I gotta, I gotta, I gotta ask about, uh, Mike, Kat Williams, you said. If I ask some juicy stuff, you give us something.

• 56:51Channing Crowder?

  You speak about the Chiefs.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  Right.

• 56:54Channing Crowder?

  Did you ever see Travis Kelce with Taylor Swift?

• 56:58Speaker 04

  Why you trying to get me counseled like a bit by these Swifties, bruh?

• 57:02Channing Crowder?

  You say, you say, you say you gonna give it to him. I need it. Did you ever see that happen?

• 57:06Speaker 04

  Hell nah, I didn't see that happening, man. Hell nah, I didn't see that happening, man. I, I think he's just like, uh, I don't know, bruh.

• 57:17Speaker 04

  Nah, uh, I didn't see it happen, bro, happening, bro. I thought, uh, Kayla, Kayla and Kelsey was gonna stay together for a minute though. But, uh, Kelsey, he, he got that swag where like he can like interchange though. Like he got that, he got that swag where he can be, you know what I'm saying, with a black beautiful queen, or he can, he got that swag where he can be with like, you know.

• 57:39Ryan Clark?

  The biggest pop star in the world?

• 57:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, the other side too. I don't even wanna say that, bruh.

• 57:45Fred Taylor?

  Well, let's pivot.

• 57:47Channing Crowder?

  I had to go, man. It surprised me.

• 57:49Speaker 04

  Nah, that's a great question.

• 57:51Channing Crowder?

  He said, he said, throw it out there.

• 57:53Fred Taylor?

  But nah, let's pivot. RC say the biggest. You've watched the show, so you should be ready for this. Your biggest pivot in life? You know, that one defining moment that allows you to be the person who you are now?

• 58:06Speaker 04

  I say, uh, when I got dismissed from Oklahoma State. That's probably like the biggest moment of my life where it's a big moment, because it's like a lot of moments that, that, that happened in that big moment. Just being kicked out, me being able to go back home, you know, find my true self with my grandparents, me having to get a job, and then just sit in that whole entire period just thinking about what, you know, I've done. You know what I'm saying? And me being able to go back to college and then just be, be so grateful for, for this everything, you know what I'm saying? Cause... I'll tell you, well, after Beldum, because that's when I got dismissed, like, right after Beldum game. After, at the Beldum, man, my whole life completely changed. You know what

• 58:47Speaker 04

  I'm saying? Because that's like a big deal in, for the Big 12. Oklahoma State versus OU.

• 58:52Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying? I had scored a big touchdown, returned a kick. My life was changed. It was trending up. You know what I'm saying? But what we don't realize is that, in that exact moment, it can be trending down too, though, with just one bad mistake. And like a lot of people, a lot of athletes, really, like, we don't, we don't think like that. It's like, we just all about, oh, I'm in this moment, I'm in this moment, instead of just thinking about, hey, God can take it away from you, too. The same way he give it to you, it take it away from you, just that fast. And I had that moment where I, I needed that. I needed that, man.

• 59:27Ryan Clark?

  I have a question that I wanted to ask. It didn't flow in this way. Patrick Mahomes.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 59:32Ryan Clark?

  Right. I think, you know, you made some statements that drew some ire because you said that Tua Tagovailoa was the most accurate quarterback you played with. And, but that's not the only skill a quarterback needs to have.

• 59:45Speaker 04

  Oh, for sure, for sure.

• 59:46Ryan Clark?

  And, and being in the locker room with him, bro, being on the field with him, you know, he's on a trajectory that has the possibility of being the greatest quarterback.

• 59:54Speaker 04

  He will be.

• 59:56Ryan Clark?

  How do you, when you look at his play and that dude, what's your first thoughts about Patrick Mahomes?

• 1:00:02Speaker 04

  I ain't gonna lie, Pat, Pat, he a different dude, bro. Like, he, he, obviously the best quarterback in the league. And now, what I said about Tua being the most accurate, you know what I'm saying? Like, this year, and I'm gonna talk about Tua, then I'm gonna get back to Patrick. This year for Tua, like, this is like a build-on season, because this is obviously his best, his best season of his career. You know what I'm saying? So, we gonna go from accurate to being that, that fearless, cocky, well, not, not really cocky, but, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:00:30Ryan Clark?

  The way he plays the game.

• 1:00:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, the way you play the game.

• 1:00:32Ryan Clark?

  Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady.

• 1:00:33Speaker 04

  He gonna, he gonna continue to add on to his game, you feel me? Like, because he, because he got the skill set, and he got the supporting cast to do it. You feel me? With all the weapons that he got around him. Now, Pat, Pat a different dude. And I'm gonna tell you how he's a different dude. We, I can't remember what year it was, but we was like on a bad streak. All, like, his supporting cast was playing bad. Me, Kelsey, all of D-Rob, me, Cole, we, Sammy, we all was playing bad. This dude called the whole offense up. He called the whole offense up. Uh, this is like on a Tuesday, I believe. He called us all up. He cussed all of us the fuck out. Like, and me and Pat, we, we, we go back and forth.

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  But that was a moment right there where like, he stood on business and it was like, bro, I really respect this because he really just called out all his fucking weapons. Individually pointed us out, looked us in the fucking eyes and said, "Bro, Ree, you think you so fucking fast, but you can't catch the fucking ball. You wanna be the best receiver in the game." And

• 1:01:36Speaker 04

  he, he, he, he was letting me have it. Then he went to Kelsey. Then he went to D-Rob. Then he went to, uh, Sammy. Like, he went to all of us, calling us all out. And in that moment right there, I was like, "Yo, it's go time now." Like, that put so much, like, that, that put so much, like, I don't know what it put in my, fuel in my heart, bruh. Like, that next game, that's when we begin, we, we begin to get things rolling. Because you never wanna get called out by the leader of your team like that. You don't. You don't. And it's like, "Bro."

• 1:02:03Ryan Clark?

  That's just good.

• 1:02:04Speaker 04

  "I'm not gonna let nobody die in this circle right here no more." And we started killing after that. And that's one thing that our quarterback, he gonna, he gonna add, you know what I'm saying? To, because with Pat, we all had a relationship with Pat. Like, we all hang out, we all, you know, do stuff outside of football. And in Miami, we're still building that. You know what I'm saying? It, it hasn't got to that yet. But I feel, I'm, I'm telling you, this year it's gonna get to that. Cause I, like, we, we done had some battles in there, you know what I'm saying, already, but it ain't been a battle where it's like, we can have a conversation, but then we can come back the next play and be like, "Hey, bro, I think you should do that." You know what I'm saying? It's been, "Nah, fuck you. And then I'll talk to you later." You know what I'm saying? Or next week. And we don't need that. It need to be like,

• 1:02:46Speaker 04

  "Look, bro, we need to do this, yada, yada, yada. You need to get open. I need to be better." And then we need to come back and then talk about it, not have grudges against each other. Cause we all trying to win.

• 1:02:55Ryan Clark?

  That's the best thing.

• 1:02:56Speaker 04

  We all trying to win, man. You know what I'm saying? Being able to have them tough conversations, you know what I'm saying? It's, it's needed, I feel like, bruh. Cause that got us better, when Pat did it. It made me wanna kick his ass, but it got, made me wanna get better, man.

• 1:03:08Ryan Clark?

  My, my last question would be this, Ree. You- When we sit down with people, you have this preconceived notion of what they might be like. And then you sit with them for an hour and you're like, oh, dude's nothing like what people have paid him to be. And we try to do a deeper dive into just the human. What is something that you think people don't know about you that you'd like them to know?

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  I don't know, man. I'm old school. I was raised by my grandparents, you know? So I try to live like the old school way. I'm very cheap. I don't spend much money.

• 1:03:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's it. That's really all I got.

• 1:03:49Ryan Clark?

  That's good.

• 1:03:50Channing Crowder?

  You don't spend no money. You fend it out.

• 1:03:53Ryan Clark?

  Right here? He probably got sponsored, man. That's Super Bowl money. Yeah, he like the 15th best receiver in the game. You know they gave that to him for free?

• 1:04:26Speaker 00

  Having uncontrolled eosinophilic esophagitis, or E O E, can mean you're stuck in many ways. Like cutting your food into tiny pieces.

• 1:04:36Speaker 00

  Or stuck, chewing food for a long time.

• 1:04:41Speaker 00

  Dupixent Dupilumab, a prescription medicine for patients one year and older weighing at least 33 pounds, can help with that. It's a breakthrough treatment that can reduce inflammation in the esophagus and improve swallowing.

• 1:04:54Speaker 00

  How about this? Dupixent is not a steroid. It proactively treats E O E, so you can get ahead of it.

• 1:04:59Speaker 01

  Severe allergic reactions, including skin reactions, can occur. Get help right away if you have trouble breathing, or wheezing, or swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or throat. Tell your doctor of new or worsening joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection, or asthma. Don't change or stop other treatments without talking to your doctor.

• 1:05:14Speaker 00

  Feeling stuck with E O E? Start treating with Dupixent. Talk to your gastroenterologist or allergist today about Dupixent. Learn more at dupixent.com or call 1-844-DUPIXENT.