The Mindset That Turned Losing Both Legs Into a Paralympic Medal | Amy Purdy

Amy Purdy walked into an operating room at 19 about to lose both legs, and instead of collapsing into fear, she gave herself three goals before the anesthesia took hold. You know that feeling when life pulls the ground out from under you and every identity you had disappears overnight? Amy has lived that more than once, and what she discovered is that the challenges you most want to escape are actually moving you closer to your purpose, not away from it. The key is learning to lean into problems rather than run, to find the smallest sliver of possibility and let it grow. In this conversation, you will walk away with practical tools for building a new identity after loss, understanding why your struggles are not obstacles but doorways, and discovering how staying present transforms the way you compete, create, and connect. Amy’s books: Bounce Forward: 21 Tools to Live a Life Beyond Limits On My Own Two Feet Amy on Instagram In this episode you will: Learn how to set a north star in the middle of crisis so fear does not get to make your decisions Discover why leaning into your problems instead of avoiding them is the only way to find real strength Understand how to step into a new identity after loss without pretending the old one did not matter Recognize the hidden reason so many high achievers crash after reaching their biggest goals Find out how shifting your focus from outcome to contribution changes everything about why you show up For more information go to https://lewishowes.com/1918 For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960 Follow The Daily Motivation for essential highlights from The School of Greatness More SOG episodes we think you’ll love: Shaun White Mikaela Shiffrin Lindsey Vonn Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  It's amazing what you can do when you choose to not be a victim. When you choose to focus on the possibilities instead of the problem. I lost my legs, my kidneys, my spleen, the hearing in my left ear overnight. My world was completely different. But what helped me not be a victim is I made the choice to not be a victim. You take one little step at a time and you see where it leads.

• 0:23Lewis Howes?

  Three-time Paralympic medalist, a world-class snowboarder, and one of the leading voices on resilience and human potential, the inspirational Amy Purdy in the house.

• 0:32Speaker 00

  Our challenges can teach us so much. And that's what going through what I went through. It was a seven-year journey of getting back on my feet to walk again. If you allow yourself to be in the moment and lean into what you're going through instead of trying to resist it, you can learn so much. And those moments become some of your most, I think, grounded, special moments.

• 0:55Lewis Howes?

  The quote you say is the quality of your life comes down to the stories you choose to believe. What is the current story you're choosing to believe right now at this new season of possibilities, but also potentially uncertainty of what's to come?

• 1:06Speaker 00

  Oh, gosh. I mean, I think...

• 1:13Lewis Howes?

  And based on what you've talked about in your new book, Bounce Forward, it's almost like the thing that almost broke you was the launching pad to create more than you could ever imagine in your life.

• 1:26Speaker 00

  Totally.

• 1:27Lewis Howes?

  And I'm curious, I mean, you were on Dancing with the Stars, Paralympic medalist. You've done so many different things. There's billboards of you around the world. Like, you've done so many inspiring things. But what was the thing that allowed you to get out of the first, kind of the victim mindset that a lot of people go through when challenges occur or when life sets them back? How did you learn how to get over that first? Because this is a huge change.

• 1:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was a huge change. I mean, I lost my legs, my kidneys, my spleen, the hearing in my left ear overnight. And my world was completely different. But what helped me not be a victim is I made the choice to not be a victim from the very beginning. So I remember being wheeled into the operating room where I was going to lose both of my legs. And I had no idea what to expect. You know, I had no idea what my life on the other side of this was going to look like. And I was so scared, but I gave myself three goals. And I think I did this because I needed something. I needed something to hang on to, to kind of pull me into the future. And so I gave myself three goals.

• 2:35Speaker 00

  The first goal was that I wasn't going to feel sorry for myself because I wasn't a victim and I wasn't going to act like a victim. And everybody felt sorry for me and it didn't feel good. And the second goal was that I was going to snowboard again that year because I had never missed a year of snowboarding before. And the third goal was that when I figured this whole mess out, I wanted to help other people do the same. And I think those three goals really, they gave me kind of a north star. They gave me something to work towards. And, you know, I had no idea the path to snowboard again or the path to helping others. I just knew that that's what I wanted to do.

• 3:20Speaker 00

  And then I just took it one like little baby step at a time and, and it led places that I never could have imagined.

• 3:26Lewis Howes?

  I love that you had a game plan when they're rolling you in to, you know, do this operation on your legs and your, your spleen and your kidney and all these different things. But also you could go into it thinking, I may not wake up, right? Like, sure, you're positive and like, oh, I'm going to plan for the best, but how did you ever, I mean, it's.

• 3:47Speaker 00

  I wouldn't say I was positive. I mean, I really, I, I had no idea, you know, I, that before going into surgery, um, I mean, the doctors came in and said, if we don't amputate here, which they, they put their hand on my shin and they said, if we don't amputate here tomorrow, we'll have to amputate up here next week. So I had no choice. My choice was to either survive or to not survive. And if I wanted to survive, I had to lose my legs and. I, you know, I think I just, I needed some kind of control in that moment. The way to control the moment was to give myself these three goals. And those goals became, I mean, a huge part of my life.

• 4:29Speaker 00

  Like that is, I did those things over the next 20 years. Those were all I really focused on, were those three things. And so it's amazing, it's amazing what you can do when you choose to not be a victim. When you choose to focus on the possibilities instead of the problem. And you take one little step at a time and you see where, where it leads.

• 4:56Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 4:57Speaker 00

  You know, I had no idea at that time that I'd be in the Paralympic Games. I just wanted to snowboard again. You know, I had no idea that I'd be standing on podiums or Dancing with the Stars or any of that stuff. I just wanted to follow my dreams and do the stuff that I loved and help other people do the same. And it's amazing where that led.

• 5:17Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. What would you say to someone who's going through just a challenge in life where they don't see a greater future? Where they're unable to latch on to some type of positive vision for their life because things are so challenging right now? It seems like it's, maybe they just feel like there's no hope. Like, there's no good future that I can think of or hold on to because of all the bad things that are happening to me right now. What would you say to someone in that position?

• 5:43Speaker 00

  Honestly, I think it really is leaning into the possibility instead of the problem. Like, what we focus on grows. So if we're focused on problems, the problems that we see are going to grow. And if we're focused on, well, what can I learn from the problem I'm going through? It can teach us so much. So, I mean, if you're going through anxiety, for example, and you're so anxious for the future, which I've felt that, we've all felt that. But I've felt that so many times in my life. And for a long time, anxiety. Took off in my life, like it made me feel like I was out of control and I didn't know what my future was going to look like and I was worried about the future.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  And then I started to learn presence, like just to be in the moment.

• 6:33Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 6:33Speaker 00

  Like just to be in the here and now, because in the here and now, everything's fine. You realize when you're present that everything's okay right now. And that helps you to get ahead. So just even learning that is, is a blessing. It's a gift in the adversity. And so I think it's focusing on like the little, the little things that are getting you through your challenges so that those things can grow. And those things may be, you know, it may be just being grateful that your family's by your side.

• 7:10Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 7:10Speaker 00

  Or grateful that you have, I don't know, a dog that you love, or your warm coffee, or that you have another day, or that, you know, you look out your windows and it's beautiful. Like just trying to find the beauty and the possibility in the day and let that grow.

• 7:28Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 7:28Speaker 00

  Instead of the problem. I think that can help us get through a lot of our challenges.

• 7:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. When a lot of people are going through a setback, you know, whether it be their health, or maybe their relationship, or, or their career or something. A lot of times you hear people say, I just want to go back to where it was before, when it was good, when there wasn't problems, or when I didn't have this health challenge, or I didn't have this financial burden, I want to go back. But you talk about bouncing forward and not going back. You, you were unable to go back to the person you were before you had to lose your legs, right? You were unable to go back. It was not possible. So you couldn't go back to this old identity. You had to bounce forward into a new identity. But that's really hard for people. How do we think of bouncing forward instead of going back?

• 8:16Speaker 00

  Um, you know, I mean, a lot of it is acceptance. Right? Like radical acceptance. I think when I lost my legs, I had no choice. It was so cut and dry. It was like, you are not going back, you know, whether you want to or not. And I think the difference in actually why I wrote this book. You know, when I lost my legs, I was fighting for my life. When I went through this injury that I went through about seven years ago, which a lot of this book is based on. I was fighting for the quality of my life. And that changed everything. Fighting for your life, you know, you don't have emotions around what you're going through.

• 8:58Speaker 00

  But fighting for the quality of your life, your emotions are heightened. You're losing everything. You're, you know, worried about the future. You have no idea what you're doing. You have no idea what your life is going to be like. And that's actually when I learned the most about myself was going through this process this second time.

• 9:18Lewis Howes?

  Not losing your legs, but having to bounce back from injury the second time.

• 9:21Speaker 00

  Because I think, you know, the first time, people would always say, how'd you do it? How'd you get through your greatest challenges? How'd you get through losing your legs? And to be honest, for a long time, I don't think I knew. I would say, I'm not sure. I just kind of, I just kind of did it. I think I had youth on my side and, you know, you're super resilient when you're young and, and so.

• 9:42Lewis Howes?

  You had no other choice too. You're just like, this is what is and I gotta figure it out.

• 9:46Speaker 00

  I just kind of did it. But this time, I really paid attention to what was helping me along the way. And I started writing those things down. I really paid attention to like days that I was grieving, but then I felt better. What helped me? What helped me get over that and or get through that? I'd write that down. And, you know, days when I was anxious, what helped me get through that? I'd write that down. And that's really what became the framework of this book is all these things that have helped me along the way. And what I learned too is these tools or practices.

• 10:24Speaker 00

  They don't just help you survive, they help you thrive. They're the same exact thing. So for example, visualization, I talk about that in the book. I I used visualization in my darkest days, laying in the hospital bed when I lost both my legs, having no idea what my life was going to be like, visualizing what I wanted for my future. But I also used it standing in the Stargates at the Paralympic Games, visualizing the course, how I wanted to race, or visualizing before I walk out on stage, how I want to perform. So I started to realize that these tools not just help you survive, but also can help you thrive, and they're the same thing. And so that's why I wanted to write it in the book and just be able to share that

• 11:07Speaker 00

  these, these are the things I know for sure. And I actually, I wrote the book too because I thought, you know, I might just be motivated by death because I've, you know, been close to death a couple of times in my life, but I thought to myself, if I were to, if I were to die tomorrow, what did I learn? And I actually was on an airplane one day when I, when I thought that question. And I, I grabbed a little napkin and I, I wrote down 21 things. I thought, these are the things I've learned. Like, this is what I would leave behind. And that ended up being the chapters of all the, of the book. So, um, yeah, so you know, it's, and that would have never happened if I didn't go

• 11:49Speaker 00

  through all the challenges that I have gone through. I, I wouldn't have learned these little things and, and now I get to share them. And so I really, I, that's why I do believe that our problems are connected to our purpose, if you lean into them, and if you share what helps you get through those challenges, that's when, that's when you get your most fulfilled. You know, knowing, knowing that what you've learned can help somebody else.

• 12:20Lewis Howes?

  Oh, that's beautiful.

• 12:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:21Lewis Howes?

  Because you went through a lot of like surgeries and you were in the hospital for like a couple of years almost, right?

• 12:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. So exactly. I haven't really even shared that, that part of the story yet.

• 12:30Lewis Howes?

  How many surgeries have you experienced? In your life.

• 12:34Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh. How many surgeries have I had in my life? I mean, I wouldn't even be able to count, probably. But, but the thing is, they were very, you know, I've been through a lot, but I've also had such a beautiful, incredible life.

• 12:47Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  But I think it's been so beautiful and incredible because I've been through a lot.

• 12:52Lewis Howes?

  Ah.

• 12:53Speaker 00

  Because it's, you know, it forces you to figure out what's important in your life.

• 12:58Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 12:58Speaker 00

  It forces you to figure out what you appreciate. Um, to really pay attention to what you have. I think our challenges really ground us in our purpose and in who we are and in our spirit and in our relationships. So even though I've been through a lot, I've also had the most incredible life that I wouldn't have had had I have not gone through what I went through.

• 13:26Lewis Howes?

  What if you didn't have all these challenges, physically, emotionally, that most people have never experienced? Do you think you could have had a great life still?

• 13:35Speaker 00

  I don't think I would have had a life with as much meaning.

• 13:39Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 13:40Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure.

• 13:40Lewis Howes?

  Without the pain, the suffering, surgeries, you don't think it would have been as meaningful?

• 13:44Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, I think I would have, I would have been a massage therapist. I would have loved helping people because that's what I was doing before. I have no idea where I would have gone after that. But I think that our challenges bring us into the depths of life. It, they help us experience life to its fullest. We think that our challenges stop us from experiencing life to the fullest. But really, it's what opens the door so that we can experience life to the fullest.

• 14:12Lewis Howes?

  I think a lot of people need to hear this because most people are running away from their challenges. They're running away from their pain and their problems.

• 14:20Speaker 00

  Right.

• 14:21Lewis Howes?

  And I'm not saying you should live a life of problem and pain all day long.

• 14:23Speaker 00

  No.

• 14:24Lewis Howes?

  But what I'm hearing you say is that your challenges and the pain and the biggest struggles you've been through have given you the most meaning and fulfillment as well. How can someone think that way? Who is in the middle of so much pain and sadness right now in their own personal life?

• 14:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:41Lewis Howes?

  How do they start to believe? Maybe this is happening for me. I just don't know what it's for yet.

• 14:47Speaker 00

  Right. Gosh, I think, um, I think it's just, I really think we have to lean into our challenges. It's leaning into the challenge. I know that that's hard, but, and it's hard in the moment because we're trying to run away from our challenges. But actually, where we learn, where we grow, where we learn who we are is by leaning into the challenge, is what can we extract from it that can help us move forward? Even if it's the smallest little thing in that moment. Because like I said, that would grow, whatever it is that you can lean into in that moment to just find the light, to find the sliver of hope, whatever it may be, just to focus on that, that then grows.

• 15:28Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 15:29Speaker 00

  And because it is hard, when you're in the thick of challenge, it's hard to see the other side of it. If you're dealing with anxiety, for example, you cannot be inspired. It's impossible. You cannot see a vision for yourself in the future. You are in the here and now, you are stuck. But if you can, if you can find these little like, just moments that pull you through, whatever that may be, and lean on that, that's what helps to get you through.

• 15:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  And, you know, when I wrote this book, so I wrote 21 chapters, 21 different kind of topics, and the topics were all struggles that I had. And the tools are what helped me get through those struggles. And I just started to realize there are things that are helping me get through. Like, yes, I, I, I would, you know, if I'm overwhelmed, but it's like, okay, now I'm not overwhelmed. So what's helping me get through that? Oh, it's because I started to compartmentalize. I started to segment my life a little bit, like, I'm going to focus on this one thing and just that, and then get through that, and then I'll focus on the next thing, and then get through that. When I was 19 years old, you know, I lost my kidneys, my spleen, my hearing in my left

• 16:40Speaker 00

  ear all at once. I was going to a doctor's appointment one day to work on legs. The next day, I'd have to go to a kidney appointment to figure out if I was going to have to have a kidney transplant. The next day, I'd have to go to like a hearing appointment to figure out if I needed a hearing it. And this was all at 19 years old. And it was so overwhelming and it could completely crush you. But what I started doing is focusing on one thing at a time. So I would say, okay, you know what? This week is just leg week. That's it. I'm not thinking about my other problems, you know? I'm not thinking, yeah, I'm not thinking about my kidneys. I'm not thinking about if I need a hearing aid. I'm just thinking about my legs and that's it.

• 17:23Speaker 00

  And then the next week would be, okay, now we're focused on my kidney. Like, do I need a kidney transplant? Let's get blood work, everything that we have to get. And just by kind of segmenting things out, it got rid of that overwhelm. And I've used that throughout the rest of my life. I mean, it's something that you can use, whether you're going through challenges, like compartmentalize can help you go through challenges, but also help you rise above and, and achieve the things that you want to achieve as well. If you, you know, if you're busy and you're overwhelmed because you have good things going on, you just start to kind of compartmentalize things a little bit. I think I, you know, through my challenges, I just started to realize

• 18:05Speaker 00

  there were things that I was leaning on that were helping me to get through. Instead of just, um, oh, feeling completely out of control. When we really pay attention to like, what is it that just brightened my day?

• 18:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 18:21Speaker 00

  What is it that just changed my mood? And lean into that and really focus on that, then that, you know, that can change your entire day.

• 18:32Lewis Howes?

  That's so true that you, you talk about that because I was going through some just personal, internal stuff last night and it was hard for me to sleep. And I woke up still feeling kind of stressed out this morning. And I just had twin girls that are five, five months old. So I was just like, you know what? I need to get out of myself and focus on my girls. I went in, I held one of them. I took them for a walk and it just allowed me to focus on the present rather than the stuff I'm stressed about. And it gave me kind of more of that purpose and that grounded energy. Putting that towards that as opposed to the problems or the stress and the anxiety. And I think if we can all find that type of tool for ourselves to get grounded in the present, that's

• 19:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:11Lewis Howes?

  hopefully going to help you get over that stress.

• 19:13Speaker 00

  Exactly. Exactly. I mean, you know, we can easily focus on our problems and then, I mean, and you would think that your whole world is over and you think it's the end of the world, you know? Or you focus on the things that are going right and you realize that you have so much. And I mean, you know, I have been through a lot, of course, but I've also had such an incredible life of figuring out the possibilities, living the possibilities. But I wouldn't have figured that stuff out if I didn't have the problems that I had.

• 19:46Lewis Howes?

  Gosh, so the problems kind of gave you purpose, it sounds like. That's crazy.

• 19:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think, yeah.

• 19:51Lewis Howes?

  Go ahead, go ahead.

• 19:52Speaker 00

  No, I was going to say, I really do believe that our problems bring us closer to ourselves. They bring us closer to our relationships. They bring us closer to God and they can bring you closer to your purpose. If you're, if you lean into them, if you learn from them.

• 20:10Lewis Howes?

  If you try to run from your problems, what usually happens?

• 20:13Speaker 00

  Oh, gosh, then you, I mean, you would just collapse and you would feel completely out of control. You would feel, you would feel broken. You'd feel like your problems have completely broken you down and crushed you because you have to let them out, you know, and problems are, we all face them. These are, I know that mine might be more visible because I've got prosthetic legs and, you know, on the cover of my book, I've got a prosthetic leg there too, but, but we all have challenges, right? Like big and small. And so, and really that's what this book is for as well. It's not just for the big problems. It's, it's for our daily challenges that, that we face.

• 20:54Speaker 00

  I mean, even little stuff like this, like you might be driving through traffic and somebody cuts you off and you spill your coffee on yourself and now your day is totally ruined. You know, there's, there's a moment where you can make a choice there on how you're going to handle that problem. And, and it really is in the pause. I call it the power of the pause because if you can pause, you can decide what direction you want to go.

• 21:18Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:18Speaker 00

  And you can say, wait a second, okay, you know, this person's a jerk and it's going to ruin my whole day. Or you can say, maybe this person just got a phone call that their kid is in the hospital and, you know, they just pulled out in front of you. Like that completely just shifts your perspective in that moment. And so. I think that there's just these tools. We think that people who are like positive and happy and strong and live a good life are just that way. But I think we lean on tools and practices and different mindset shifts in order to be that way.

• 21:53Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely. Now, I'm curious about identity and how you've learned to think about your own identity with all the changes you've had to experience because a lot of people, they have their own identity, but if they go through a divorce, or a breakdown, or bankruptcy, or some type of health challenge, it rocks their identity.

• 22:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:14Lewis Howes?

  How did you learn to step into a new identity that you didn't even know you had, because the old one was taken from you?

• 22:21Speaker 00

  Right. I've had to step into quite a few different identities. I mean, when I lost my legs at 19, right, that was stepping into a whole, suddenly I was somebody who had a disability, which I never could have really imagined that that would be my life. So I had to wrap my head around what that meant and how people viewed me as well. And, but really, you know, I think for me, it was just taking ownership of it. It's like, I lost both of my legs, but this is who I am. I never covered it up. I, you know, people would look at me a little bit differently at first, and I had to get comfortable with that.

• 23:00Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 23:00Speaker 00

  But I felt way more comfortable being me than not being me.

• 23:05Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 23:06Speaker 00

  And so, the more that I showed up, you know, then I started wearing dresses and heels, and you'd see my bionic legs, and then people would talk to me about my legs. And then, you know, it helped me embrace my legs and my situation as well. Kind of the more that I, I got brave with it and just became more comfortable with myself, that's kind of when things started to, my whole life started to flow, kind of from that point forward. But I started to meet people, I started to get more comfortable with other people as well. And so, it just became my new identity. But by making that choice, again, that I wasn't going to hide it, you know, I wasn't going to hide who I was now. I was going to embrace it, even if I wasn't comfortable with

• 23:51Speaker 00

  it. And, and-

• 23:54Speaker 00

  And I had to do the same a couple of years ago when, you know, I severely injured my left leg. That was seven years ago. I ended up losing the entire arterial system of my left leg. So I got a blood clot from my hip down every artery of my left leg. And that was from doing all the sports that I was doing on prosthetic legs. So having carbon fiber legs that are kind of pushing in, you know, and you're snowboarding seven hours a day, walking through airports, standing on stage, speaking, whatever it may be, going to the gym afterwards. All of that ended up damaging the arteries of my left leg.

• 24:35Speaker 00

  It damaged my popliteal artery and then shut down my entire femoral artery. And I went through major surgeries, 10 surgeries in the course of two and a half years, I think. And it was all during COVID, so I'd be in the hospital by myself for days at a time. And I had to step into a completely new identity after that happened because I went from losing my legs when I was 19 to living this incredible life of, you know, sport and athletics and Dance with the Stars. And then I was on, you know, Oprah's stage, speaking and traveling the world and felt completely capable, 100% capable.

• 25:17Speaker 00

  It's so comfortable in my legs as well to now being knocked off my feet again, not even sure if I'd be able to go back to do those things that I worked so hard to do.

• 25:27Lewis Howes?

  It was almost harder, it sounds like, the second time around because you, it almost, the first time it was obviously life altering, but it unlocked a whole world of possibilities. This second time around, it almost sounds like, oh, all these possibilities might stop now because of these challenges. That's interesting. That's scary.

• 25:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, and that's why, that's why it was so hard. That's why I say that the first time I was fighting for my life, but the second time I was fighting for the quality of my life.

• 25:56Lewis Howes?

  Wow, yeah.

• 25:56Speaker 00

  And that made it that much harder because now you're like, I'm here on earth and this is how I'm gonna live the rest of my life. And, and am I going to be the person that I was? Am I the person that I thought I was? You know, who am I if I'm not doing the things that I was doing? That I thought defined me? Who am I now if I can't do those things? If every single thing is just stripped away, who are you?

• 26:23Lewis Howes?

  Yes. So what did you discover who you were in that process?

• 26:26Speaker 00

  I, I discovered, let me think. I discovered that, I'll tell you what, it very much so softened me.

• 26:35Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 26:36Speaker 00

  Instead of being very clear and maybe, not clear, but like.

• 26:43Lewis Howes?

  Driven or something?

• 26:43Speaker 00

  I was, yeah, I was very, very driven before and I still am. But it softened me to be a little bit more receptive and, and let people around me help me. I think for so long, I wanted to share and show just how capable I was.

• 26:58Lewis Howes?

  I can do it.

• 26:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, we all wanna feel that way, right? And people, you know, say, oh, she has prosthetic legs. Like, do you need help with something? I'd be like, I'm fine. I'm an athlete. Like, I traveled the world, you know, and I drag my snowboard bags all around the world. Like, I'm good. But now I really, this softened me in a completely different way, in a very, very good way, that allowed other people to not just help me, but I became more receptive, I think. And it connected me to my relationships better and it made me feel more grounded. Like, it is when you go through those challenges that you start questioning, why are we here?

• 27:40Speaker 00

  What is the purpose of this? And how do I wanna live the rest of my life? And when you really can have those deep moments, that's when you learn the most about yourself. And that's when you learn the most about what you want for your life and what really matters in life. And for me, I realized it was just the simple stuff. It's, you know, my relationships. My, my mom was amazing. She took care of me while I was going through all of this. My husband was absolutely incredible. It completely transformed our relationship.

• 28:13Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 28:14Speaker 00

  I went from being, you know, traveling and just being so, um, I don't know, just so independent to allowing him to totally step in.

• 28:23Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  Take care of things. And he stepped up in a way that I never could have imagined. He would be, you know, cleaning the house every day, taking care of me, started cooking every day. I realized how nurturing he was and I, I never saw that before.

• 28:38Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 28:38Speaker 00

  Like quite like that. And I think it's because I didn't need it, but once I needed it, it allowed him to rise into a version that he wasn't able to express before either.

• 28:52Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 28:52Speaker 00

  And, and so-

• 28:53Lewis Howes?

  Cause you never allowed him to, it sounds like.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 28:55Lewis Howes?

  You're like, no, I got this. I can do these things.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  Right.

• 28:58Lewis Howes?

  I'll handle it.

• 28:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I think, um, yeah, I, I really think that our challenges can teach us so much. And that's what, going through what I went through, it was a seven year journey of getting back on my feet to walk again. And I'm still in it because I have prosthetic legs. So it's like actually getting my legs to be comfortable enough to walk in. Um, is, that's like the, a second phase of the journey that, that I'm in right now. But, but the first phase, i- it's like, when you're going through the depths, you allow yourself to be in the moment and lean into what you're going through instead of trying to resist it. You can learn so much and those moments become some of your most, I think grounded, special

• 29:44Speaker 00

  moments. Because like I said, people are there for you. You realize people are there for you when you need them the most. Like, that's amazing. What else can you ask for in life?

• 29:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 29:55Speaker 00

  But to, but to have those moments of being grounded and knowing that you're supported and- Being connected with others. I think that's one of the most important things that we have on earth and that we need is, you know, that support.

• 30:11Lewis Howes?

  I think challenges also teach us, allow other people in our lives to support us, but they also show us who doesn't really care enough to like support us as well.

• 30:22Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:22Lewis Howes?

  When you reach out and say, hey, I'm really struggling. Can you help with this? And someone's silent.

• 30:26Speaker 00

  Right.

• 30:27Lewis Howes?

  You're like, oh, they're not as supportive as I thought they would be. Or, and so you kind of learn more about who the relationships really matter in your life when you go through challenges, like the people step up that are maybe the least that you would expect to do it, step up for you sometimes, where others maybe not. And I think that allows opportunity for you to build stronger relationships with the right people.

• 30:49Speaker 00

  Right. And so it's always a win.

• 30:51Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 00

  Right? Because you think, okay, this person's not in your life now because they weren't there for you.

• 30:56Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 30:56Speaker 00

  When you needed them the most, but at the same time, it's like, well, thank God you figured that out. Now you know who is in your life, who has stepped up to support you. And, but also just that, you know, I think what I learned going through my challenges really is the power of being vulnerable, being comfortable letting people in and not just pretending like you have it all figured out. And when you let people in, it allows them to show up as their best self as well. Or maybe show up in a different version that they've shown up in before. They're, they're able to show up and, and support you in a way that maybe they didn't support you before.

• 31:36Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  And it comes down to you just allowing people in.

• 31:42Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 31:42Speaker 00

  And, you know, for me, going through the challenge that I went through, going through all these surgeries and stuff, I really had no choice but to rely on the support that was around me. And that gave me strength. So, you know, a lot of times I think, we think that resilient people are just resilient. Like they're just, that's just a resilient person who has a lot of grit. But I think resilient people. Realize that there are certain things that help them become strong.

• 32:10Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 32:10Speaker 00

  There are certain things that help them through challenges. And for me, one of those things was, you know, my relationships and my family and my friends and really leaning into my own vulnerabilities so that I can let them in. That actually gave me the strength to continue forward.

• 32:29Lewis Howes?

  Wow. Was there ever a time where you were so uncertain that you just said, God, show me the way, tell me what you want for me?

• 32:36Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 32:37Lewis Howes?

  And what was that conversation or conversations and relationship with God been life for you?

• 32:43Speaker 00

  It's been an interesting conversation, to be honest. It's been an interesting journey. Yeah, absolutely. My gosh.

• 32:53Speaker 00

  When I, when I injured my leg, I mean, I had no idea.

• 33:00Lewis Howes?

  Seven years ago or seven years ago or in the beginning?

• 33:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. So when I injured my leg seven years ago, I, you know, I injured my popliteal artery. I had no idea if I'd be able to wear a prosthetic again. So I didn't even know if I'd be able to walk again. And that was the hardest time of my life. And that went on for a couple of years of not knowing. So that was this extended challenge that just seemed to not end, right? There wasn't really an end in sight and there was no, nobody could give me a prognosis. Nobody could say, oh, yeah, I mean, I was such a unique case.

• 33:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, give it six months, you'll recover or you'll be back on your feet.

• 33:36Speaker 00

  Right. Most people lose their legs from what I went through. I already am an amputee, so it's like, you know, just, we were just trying to save the rest of my leg.

• 33:45Lewis Howes?

  Uh huh.

• 33:45Speaker 00

  And so, and not knowing what the future held. I mean, it, there was a lot of times that I, I would just go up and I'd sit in my bathtub and just bawl my eyes out. And, but, and I was grieving, you know, I was grieving the loss of who I was. I was grieving the uncertainty of, of what's to come.

• 34:07Speaker 00

  And just, you know, I think like, why do I have to go through this again? It was the first time in my life that I was saying, why me? I never said, why me when I lost my legs in the first place, but this time I did. And, um, but I'll tell you what, first of all, just grieving, just going into my bathtub and allowing myself to grieve, like allowing that energy to move through me. I would always get out feeling so much better and hopeful.

• 34:33Lewis Howes?

  That's good.

• 34:33Speaker 00

  And feel like, okay, I got this, whatever, whatever happens, I'm going to be okay. So that's one of those things that I just started to pay attention to, that when you allow yourself to feel the emotions, then that's where you find your strength and you can continue forward.

• 34:50Lewis Howes?

  Wow, that's beautiful. The book is amazing and on, on page 101, you have a quote that says, the quality of your life comes down to the stories you choose to believe. You know, you've been, it's been 25 years since losing your legs, I believe, right? 25 years. And you were just telling me before we started rolling that you're, you're in transition again in so many different areas of your life. You're in transition and you've been full steam ahead of like the last 25 years of building your business and your brand and doing certain things. But now you're almost creating a new identity for what's coming. And again, the quote you say is the quality of your life comes down, comes down to the stories you choose to believe.

• 35:34Lewis Howes?

  What is the current story you're choosing to believe right now at this new season of possibilities, but also potentially uncertainty of what's to come?

• 35:42Speaker 00

  Oh gosh, I mean, I think, you know, the first, kind of the first half of my life or the first third of my life was trying to, was actually living life normal, right? Not realizing what was out there. Uh, actually, you know, until I was 20 years old and then all of a sudden I lost my legs. The next 20 years really became trying to figure out the possibilities. What can I do with these legs? What can I do, you know, what's possible? And I figured those things out and I also figured out my limits, right? And then I think these next 20 years really are, and who knows what they are, but just stepping into this next part of my life really is just, uh, is helping others see that within themselves,

• 36:25Speaker 00

  that we all have so much potential, no matter what challenges we're faced with. We all are capable of so much, but you don't have to go like crazy achieving big things either. Just to, just to know that you are capable of doing the things that you want to do in your life. I think it really is just about living a good life and living a fulfilling life. I, that is so, that's the most important thing we can have is being fulfilled. And the way to be fulfilled is to be able to deal with adversities that come our way. Because the longer we live, the more adversity we're going to face. Like, that's all there is to it. You know, you get older and things start falling apart. And, I mean, the longer you live, like, the more chance that you'll have a disability.

• 37:10Speaker 00

  You'll have to go through something major. And you'll lose people. You'll lose different versions of your, of yourself. And so, the more we can just accept that that is the process of life. And that is actually what brings us closer to our, ourselves.

• 37:31Speaker 00

  That's, like, that's kind of where I'm at right now. I'm just in a, I'm in a space of being very appreciative for everything that I've gone through, everywhere I'm at, as far as everything I have, you know, to deal with, or, but, I don't know, I think, you know, we, I, we all have challenges. I mean, that's just the biggest thing. I think, and it's knowing that that's a part of life. It's not, those aren't detours that knock you out of life. Those are the things that help you discover life more and deeper.

• 38:09Lewis Howes?

  With all the wisdom you have now over the last 25 years, if you could go back to the 19, 20-year-old who just, you know, lost her legs and her kidney and her spleen, what are three pieces of advice you would say to her if she was sitting right in front of you in that hospital bed?

• 38:25Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh. Three pieces of advice. First of all, I would say, two, that you are going to go through a lot of challenges, but don't focus on the problem. Focus on the possibility. Like, focus on the possibility within the problem. There always is one. So, you know, don't let the problems grow. Focus on the little slivers of things that you find in there that, that you can lean into. Because that will take you, that won't just get you through your challenges. That will take you further than you ever knew you could go. Um, the second thing is to, gosh, just, um, let me think, like, you're just so capable of so much.

• 39:08Speaker 00

  So don't let your problems stop you, you know, like you are capable of more than you even know. We all are. We'll never even reach our potential of what we're capable of, just knowing that.

• 39:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 39:21Speaker 00

  And so just whatever it is that you want to do, like go after it. Don't look at your challenges as these obstacles. Look at those challenges as the way to get to where you want to go. Because they will help you if you look at them in that way. And I think, you know, I guess the third thing is just to, and it's, it's how I've always felt, to be honest. But just appreciate your body. Your body is just so powerful. It's so amazing. Our bodies are absolute healers. And so just appreciate it, take care of it. The more you take care of your body, the more it will take care of you. And it will be there for you. I mean, my body's been my greatest ally through all of this.

• 40:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 40:04Speaker 00

  Because I, gosh, I've gone through surgeries and lost my legs and kidney transplant and all this stuff. And yet my body has recouped and been strong and resilient. And my body has actually taught me how to be resilient. It continues to bounce back every single time and, and do what it's supposed to do. I mean, that's just so incredible. So I, I would just, I would continue to, I would say, keep taking care of yourself. Because your body will carry you through some of your greatest challenges.

• 40:33Lewis Howes?

  If you could go 25 years in the future and give yourself advice today from your future self, hypothetically, if you could go into the future, what do you think she would say to you right now with where you're at? You know, you're launching this book about bouncing forward. You're going through personal transitions and career and business. You've kind of lived a full life of accomplishing certain goals and dreams to show what was possible for yourself, but now you have new season of life. What do you think she would say to you, three things? As, as you are right now, leaning into this season?

• 41:15Speaker 00

  Maybe the first thing would be.

• 41:19Speaker 00

  You like Amy, you already know.

• 41:22Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 41:23Speaker 00

  You already, you already know what it's about, which really is just being, truly being present.

• 41:32Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 41:32Speaker 00

  Like just stay present every moment that you can. So you can observe and lean into everything that you can learn from along the way. Like just don't get too ahead of yourself because life is always going to change. You think you know where you're going and you have no idea. So just stay present.

• 41:55Lewis Howes?

  Do you feel like it was hard for you to stay present in the last 25 years? Like you're always thinking about the next thing, the next goal.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  For a long time, I think I was. I think that's what happens when you reach, uh, well, not just reach success, but when you have a lot coming in. Uh, when you're, you know, all of a sudden it's like, sometimes, you know, you've worked so hard to be successful. Then all of a sudden you have a lot that's coming in. For me, I was, you know, I've spent a lot of time speaking on stages and it's amazing. Uh, what I've, I feel like I've been able to do, but at the same time, it can get you a little bit in a mindset of like, what's next? What's next? Okay. Especially when you achieve big things, right? Like the Paralympics or, or you're an athlete. So just, you know, once you achieve certain things, sometimes you're like, okay, you're in achievement mode.

• 42:44Lewis Howes?

  Of course.

• 42:45Speaker 00

  And so, yeah, I think I'm actually enjoying not overachieving right now.

• 42:51Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. It feels relaxing, huh?

• 42:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, it does feel relaxing. I feel like I'm in a much more calm, confident space than I was at before. And I'm okay with just kind of what is.

• 43:02Lewis Howes?

  That's great.

• 43:03Speaker 00

  And that's, and so I think just being, I continue to go back to being present, but just, I would tell myself to continue to be present.

• 43:12Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 43:12Speaker 00

  Because that's where you, that's where you grow the most. That's where you learn the most and that's, that's where you, you make the smartest decisions as well.

• 43:21Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Okay. So that's the first thing you would say?

• 43:23Speaker 00

  I, I'm not sure what I would tell myself for the other two, my gosh. Um, I, I would say lean into, um,

• 43:36Speaker 00

  I would say take care of my family and friends and relationships. Probably more than I am now.

• 43:43Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, really?

• 43:45Speaker 00

  For sure. You're very good at that, actually, taking care of relationships. Yeah, it's because it's something that I want to be doing. So if I think about like the next part of my life, it would be just, you get so busy that you don't, you don't pay attention to what everybody else is going through at times.

• 44:02Lewis Howes?

  What would that look like this year for you? If, if that wisdom to take care of relationships, friends, family, what would that look like for you to actually be doing for this year?

• 44:13Speaker 00

  It would actually be slowing down with work probably, which is hard to do.

• 44:18Lewis Howes?

  It's hard.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  Because you work so hard to get to where you're at. And now you're like, now I'm here and I don't have time to, you know, spend time with my nieces and nephews and they're all grown and.

• 44:28Lewis Howes?

  One of the things that I've done in the last, I mean, this is challenging for me because I'm, I like to accomplish and achieve and I set goals and I want to create them. But I have said no over the last six months. I've said yes to a lot as well, but I've said no to a lot of money-making opportunities, trips, cool experiences, because I just don't want to be away that much from my family.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 44:50Lewis Howes?

  And so even I went to Vienna to give a speech a couple of weeks ago. And I was only there for 24 hours, but it took 16 hours to get there and 16 hours to get back. And I was supposed to stay for three days, but I stayed for one because I wanted to get back to be with my wife and my kids.

• 45:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:08Lewis Howes?

  So it's, and there could have been other cool opportunities if I would have stayed. I was like, you know what? I'm going to miss out on that, but I'm going to be more present with my, my family and,

• 45:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:20Lewis Howes?

  And I'm not going to sleep for three days and I'm going to, you know, make it work, but it's choosing to figure out what to say yes to and what to say no to.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:30Lewis Howes?

  And, and figuring that out. And it's hard to do sometimes when you have so many cool opportunities.

• 45:35Speaker 00

  Right.

• 45:35Lewis Howes?

  Or money-making opportunities or trips or this or that. It's like. It's learning how to say no.

• 45:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:42Lewis Howes?

  Is a challenge.

• 45:43Speaker 00

  Learning how to say no is a huge challenge and that's actually, that is where I'm at right now.

• 45:47Lewis Howes?

  Or it's flipping it and saying, learning how to say yes to your friends and family.

• 45:52Speaker 00

  Right.

• 45:52Lewis Howes?

  And then you don't even have to say no.

• 45:54Speaker 00

  Exactly, exactly.

• 45:55Lewis Howes?

  It's like instead of.

• 45:56Speaker 00

  Right, I'm choosing this instead of this.

• 45:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  It's not a loss.

• 46:00Lewis Howes?

  I'm not saying no to this, I'm saying yes to my family, so I can't do anything else.

• 46:04Speaker 00

  Exactly, yeah.

• 46:05Lewis Howes?

  Okay, so that's, I'm gonna check in on you in a few months and see, hey, are you taking care of family or friends by saying yes to that? And what was the third thing you would say, you think?

• 46:14Speaker 00

  I think the third thing would just be get really clear on what you want. Because then that makes it easier to say yes to your friends and family or say yes to certain things. We think we're clear, but I don't know, it's not until you really ask yourself some smart questions that you're really clear on what it is you want. It's really easy to look, you know, at social media or whatever it may be and, and see people doing all types of stuff and then thinking that that's what you should be doing as well. But when you really reel it in and decide and figure out like what you want yourself, like what do I really want for my life and what am I willing to sacrifice to get it?

• 46:53Speaker 00

  And these days, because I am in such a, just a more calm space in my life, I, I'm not willing to sacrifice my own, I'll tell you what, I know I'm not ready, I no longer will sacrifice my nervous system for stuff. Like getting caught up and, you know, freaked out about something not going right or, you know, rushing around. I, I just, I, I so want to have a calm nervous system and that's so important to me. I just, yeah, I, I, I know what I don't want, which is I don't want to get caught up in things that don't matter. And, and just truly focus on the things that do matter.

• 47:39Speaker 00

  So, getting clear on those things for sure.

• 47:43Lewis Howes?

  I'm curious if you could give me some advice. You're three-time Paralympian, correct? A three-time Paralympic medalist.

• 47:49Speaker 00

  Yes, two-time Paralympian.

• 47:51Lewis Howes?

  Two-time Paralympian, three-time Paralympic medalist. You know, my dream is to be in the 2028 Olympics with the USA handball team. There's no guarantees. I've got two and a half more years. I've been on and off the team for 16 years playing this sport. This is my last chance to make the team as an Olympic athlete. And this is something I've been pursuing for 20 years, plus years, since I was a kid, for nearly 40 years, right? But 20 years since I saw this sport for the first time. Knowing that there's only so much I can do, which is take care of my conditioning, my athletic ability, my health, you know, and doing all the things that I can control.

• 48:35Lewis Howes?

  But making the team and being on the roster is not 100% of my control, no matter how good I am. And even sometimes the best players don't make the team for whatever reason. But there's a chance I could make it and there's a chance I could not make it for whatever reason. I've got to stay healthy, all these different things. What advice would you have to me as a three-time Paralympic medalist? With my dream and goal to be an Olympian over the next couple of years? On how I should approach this season?

• 49:04Speaker 00

  I think you should just fall in love with the process. That is it. Because it is the process that builds you. It's the process that you'll remember. It's, those are all the things, even if you were standing on a podium, looking back, those are all the things you'll remember is the people along the way, the little moments along the way, the things that you learned about yourself along the way. Because once you get there, it's so fleeting. And you already know that too. It's like, once you achieve something, it's so fleeting. You get there and if anything, you don't always feel like, I made it. You maybe feel that way for a moment, but then you're, you're like, well, what's next? What do I, what do I got to do next?

• 49:45Speaker 00

  And so it really is really appreciating the process and being super present in it. Because even if you make it and even if you win medals.

• 50:00Speaker 00

  What you'll remember most is not what it felt like to stand on the podium getting the medal. You'll remember what it took to get there.

• 50:08Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 50:09Speaker 00

  And I mean, that really is, you know, that really is what it's about.

• 50:14Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 50:15Speaker 00

  Because once you hit that spot, you end up going, okay, now what am I doing with my life tomorrow?

• 50:20Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 50:21Speaker 00

  You know, and yeah.

• 50:22Lewis Howes?

  It's almost like the process is over now.

• 50:24Speaker 00

  The process is over now. And I actually realized this even going through my injury. It's it's kind of similar, but I, you know, I was going through this injury and it was major. Like, I was sitting in a wheelchair in my house for a couple of years. I mean, I was I was working. It was all during COVID. I was still doing like virtual speeches and stuff like that. But I could not, I had one prosthetic leg. I couldn't really get on crutches. I really couldn't do as much as I, you know, was doing before, that's for sure. And but there was this day that I was in my kitchen, I was sitting in my wheelchair, and nothing had changed with my circumstances. My leg wasn't any better at this point. I had all these surgeries. And I was pouring myself a cup of coffee, and I realized that I was happy.

• 51:09Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 51:10Speaker 00

  And I really felt happy. And I froze. And I thought to myself, how am I happy? Like, I'm in the same situation that I've been in this whole time. Nothing has changed. And I realized I was happy because I was problem solving. And I was working on something every day. My problem solving was how do I get my legs? How do I get comfortable again? How do I get doing the things that I love to do? And so I was biohacking. I was talking to all these different people. I was doing hot and cold therapy. I was, you know, I was researching. I was doing all this stuff. And I realized that I was happy. And I was happy not because I reached some kind of outcome. I was happy because I was problem

• 51:52Speaker 00

  solving. And because that gave me purpose. And because I was in the process of doing something. That's what brought the happiness. And so it's similar to being an athlete or having a huge goal. It's Falling in love with the process. It's allowing, it's recognizing, because if you haven't made it to the podium yet, you don't, you can't really reflect back, but it's, it's recognizing that that process is what's actually making you fulfilled and making you happy. And standing on the podium or making it to your goals is just the, you almost just get a relief because you go, okay, like, I did it, but that's not what brought the fulfillment.

• 52:40Lewis Howes?

  Why do you think there's a certain amount of athletes, specifically at the Olympic level, that once they accomplish their dream, or they go to the Olympics, or they medal, there's a certain amount who have gone through extreme depression afterwards? There's a documentary called Weight of Gold, I don't know if you've seen this?

• 52:56Speaker 00

  I have.

• 52:57Lewis Howes?

  And it's sad to see these incredible athletes. Not all of them, but some of them go through extreme highs and then extreme lows right after the Olympics, within like months. They're like, what's my purpose? Who am I? It's almost like they have this new identity, but they don't know how to navigate it.

• 53:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:14Lewis Howes?

  Why do you think that is for so many Olympians that go through? And I don't know if that's same for Paralympians and Olympians? Or do you know other athletes who've gone through this?

• 53:23Speaker 00

  Absolutely. I know athletes going through it right now.

• 53:25Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 53:25Speaker 00

  Because the Paralympics and Olympics just ended. And yeah, it's huge. And I'll tell you what, even when you win medals, you feel that on the other side.

• 53:35Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 53:35Speaker 00

  And

• 53:35Lewis Howes?

  What, why is that? You just won the highest high.

• 53:38Speaker 00

  That's why.

• 53:38Lewis Howes?

  You're the best in the world.

• 53:40Speaker 00

  That's why.

• 53:40Lewis Howes?

  And now you crash? Why?

• 53:41Speaker 00

  Exactly. Yeah, that is, I mean, that's a huge part of it. It really is. There's, there's nothing like, there's nothing like the feeling of being the best in the world, trying to be the best in the world, all the years that it takes to get there.

• 53:57Lewis Howes?

  Years.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  All the energy. Everything that goes into it and and then also performing on the world's biggest stage. And when you do that, it's like the world's watching and everything clicks and everything comes together. And then all of a sudden, you know, real life is on the other side of that. And it just, you don't get that adrenaline. You don't have that drive. It's hard to find that drive in anything else, really. You know, like you're not waking up training to maybe do your podcast. It's like it's just a different type of energy that goes into it. So there's a letdown, I think, no matter what on the other side. And that's why I say it's so important to fall in love with the process and to just be really present in the journey of it.

• 54:42Speaker 00

  Because that's, I mean, that's ultimately like what you'll flashback on and and what means the most. And I also think we just put such high expectations on that one moment. Like that's supposed to be the best competition and race of your life because it's the Olympics. You have no idea what's going to happen. The conditions could be horrible. It's, you know, something's not set up right, like you're not together like you thought you would be. Like, we think that that's the most pinnacle moment and the most important moment of our sporting career. And that it's just one day. That's it. It's just one day and anything can happen on that one day.

• 55:21Lewis Howes?

  Anything.

• 55:22Speaker 00

  Right. And so I think we have this vision and this dream of competing in the games. Sometimes getting there and being completely, completely let down by the experience.

• 55:33Lewis Howes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 55:33Speaker 00

  And it could be anything that happened that day that could let you down. And so, and I I actually felt a little let down, even after winning silver. I won silver and bronze. Yeah. I was grateful that I won it. I was like, yes, I'm so grateful, but um, but I felt a little bit let down just, uh, I, I, you know, because I could have performed better because I, there were just certain things that I thought of afterwards that I thought, gosh, I could have, I could have actually pushed for that gold even harder. That can eat you up, you know? And but but what I love about that journey was that I for the first time ever was so

• 56:14Speaker 00

  present in my training for the couple of years leading up because I took time off after Dance with the Stars and Paralympics or my first Paralympics and then I came back to the Paralympic Games and and I'll tell you what actually made me come back and change my perspective a little bit on things is because I was like when I went into Dance with the Stars, when I went into doing the Oprah tour and all of that. So I just won, you know, a medal at the Paralympic Games. I was kind of in this achievement mode of what's next, what's next? And then I decided to go back to my second Paralympic Games, compete in some of these World Cups. At that point, I was the underdog and I was horrible. Like, I was not at the

• 56:58Speaker 00

  level of everybody else. Not that I was horrible, but I was not at that level that everybody else who had continued to compete. And I remember I was standing in the Stargates, I was in Italy, and we were doing a World Cup and it was icy and it was cloudy and and the course was super sketchy. And I mean, I have two prosthetic legs, can't feel my feet on the ground anyways. So I was kind of falling and frustrated and working on my legs, trying to figure things out. And I went back to my room and I was asking myself, why am I doing this? Like, I don't have to be here. I already have a career outside of this. I don't have to be here. Why am I doing this? And I I thought, you know, if I have a bad day tomorrow, I'm just, that's it. Like, I'm just done. I don't

• 57:40Speaker 00

  need to be here. And so that night, I was getting ready to get into bed. I got a phone call at 11 o'clock at night, and it was the front desk. And we were just staying in this little Italian village and just this little like house in this Italian village up in the Dolomites and And so I get this phone call and they say that there's somebody downstairs to to talk to me. And I was thinking, who would it be? It must be my coach, I guess. And so I put my pajamas on. I went downstairs and there was this young girl standing there in two prosthetic legs with five people around her. And they saw on Instagram that I was in this little village. And they jumped in the car.

• 58:25Speaker 00

  They drove four hours to find me. They knocked down every door in that village to find me.

• 58:32Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 58:33Speaker 00

  And it was all to figure out how I snowboarded in two prosthetic legs so that she could do it too.

• 58:38Lewis Howes?

  That's pretty cool. Just that alone might have been worth the whole experience, right?

• 58:41Speaker 00

  Well, it did. It completely changed my whole view on why I did what I did. And and it took the kind of pressure of like, oh, like, you know, I'm here to win medals away completely. I thought that's not what it's about at all. I ended up sitting down with her. It was her grandparents and a translator and her leg maker. And they, you know, were all trying to figure out how I set my legs up. I spent the next hour with them. And when I walked away, I thought to myself immediately, I thought, that's why, that's why I do this. Not to win medals, not to be the best in the world, but to show other people that they can do this too. Like they can live their dreams too, no matter what challenges they're faced with.

• 59:25Speaker 00

  And that changed the way I approached my training from that point forward. I I knew my why so strong that it didn't matter how hard things got. I knew exactly why I was showing up every single day. I never asked again, why am I doing this? I knew why I did it. And and it was so much more fulfilling to know that answer. And to not be doing it for myself, really, to be doing it to show what the possibilities are so that others can, you know, but believe that they can achieve their goals as well. And and to be an example of what's possible. And that that just changed my whole perspective on how I.

• 1:00:12Speaker 00

  An approach on how I went into that Paralympic Games. I was so calm, present, appreciative. I brought my whole family with me to competitions, which I didn't do going into the first Paralympics that I was in. I was so focused in my first Paralympics that I was just like,

• 1:00:28Lewis Howes?

  They'll distract me.

• 1:00:29Speaker 00

  Exactly. It was like, everybody fall aside and I just focused on what I needed to do. But for this Paralympics, I brought my family with me. I enjoyed the ride. I enjoyed every moment. Even when I competed, I competed, I could have competed stronger and better, of course. But what I am so proud of myself of is that I was so present while I was competing. And, um, and so, yeah, I mean, there's a few different things in there. It's, it's knowing why you're doing what you're doing and that it's, it can't be the outcome and it can't be like the shiny objects. Like, that's not enough of a why to, to drive you through the process of it. And, uh, and also being present enough that you actually are enjoying.

• 1:01:14Lewis Howes?

  Enjoying the process. Yeah.

• 1:01:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, enjoying the ride because that's what, that's, that's the most important part of it. Otherwise, you know, medals just collect dust and they, they end up on your wall and you're like, that's awesome. But, but what that really meant was, you know, you get to go back and say, but this is, this is the meaning behind that.

• 1:01:35Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful.

• 1:01:35Speaker 00

  Which is the most important part, which you get whether you win a medal or not.

• 1:01:38Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. I'm loving all this. Your new book is called Bounce Forward. I want everyone to go get a copy of the book. It's out now. And it's 21 Tools to Live a Life Beyond Limits. You're all over social media on Instagram. Uh, people can follow you there and see your content and your journey as well. The thing, the theme that I'm hearing you say throughout this is to stay present, is to take care of family and friends and to enjoy the process. That's what I've been hearing as kind of a, a reflection of the last 25 years of, of what you did and what you wish you'd have done more of, of where you're at now and where you're heading in the future. Um, I want to ask you a question. I think I asked you this 10 years ago on this,

• 1:02:23Lewis Howes?

  on the, on the show, I believe. So I'm curious to look back and see what your answers were then. This is called the three truths question.

• 1:02:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:02:30Lewis Howes?

  So hypothetical scenario, we've been gone, we've gone into the past, we've gone into 25 in the years in the future. If you could imagine, you know, all the way to the very end of your life, very far in the future. And you could think about your whole life experience. We're in the future now. And for whatever reason, it's your last day on earth. And you've accomplished and created all the things you want to do. But for whatever reason, on the last day, you have to take all of your work with you, all of your books and your content, it has to go to another place. Hypothetical scenario. But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world. And this is all we would have of your content.

• 1:03:04Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:03:05Lewis Howes?

  These three lessons. I call it the three truths. What would those three truths be for you?

• 1:03:11Speaker 00

  I would say that your problems aren't an obstacle towards your purpose. Your problems are the way to your purpose.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  Because by leaning into them, they teach you what you really want and what's what's really meaningful to you.

• 1:03:38Speaker 00

  The second one I would say is we're capable of so much more than we know. And no matter what adversity you're faced with, you're capable of so much more than you know. And to lean into that, to know that, to know that your challenges don't need to stop you. They really can open up the doors to figuring out just how capable you really are.

• 1:04:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:05Speaker 00

  And I'd say the third one is that contribution matters. Whether you're contributing support to somebody else or you're contributing your voice to something or you're contributing your art to something or music. Contribution matters, which makes me believe that we're supposed to do it. Because it feels so good.

• 1:04:32Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:04:32Speaker 00

  It feels so good when you show up and contribute what you have with the world. That That matters.

• 1:04:40Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, that's beautiful. Again, I want to make sure people get your book, Bounce Forward. Make sure you guys get a copy for a friend as well. It's gonna really inspire you. With whatever challenge you feel like you're going through, any problems you're going through, it's gonna inspire you to hopefully overcome them with some more peace and purpose. Final question for you, Amy, before I ask, I want to acknowledge you for your contribution. Constantly being a light in the world where so many people struggle, your voice matters. I'm so grateful for you. We've known each other for 10 years. We've done a lot of stuff together and you continue to show up and inspire so many people, including myself. So I appreciate you. I'm grateful for your contribution. And I'm excited to see how you step into your, you know, your next path in what you're up to,

• 1:05:24Lewis Howes?

  of being present, enjoy the process, diving into family and friends and receiving. And relax. I'm excited to see that, that season of life for you. And my final question is, what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:05:39Speaker 00

  My definition of greatness is living a life of possibility and helping others do the same.

• 1:05:46Lewis Howes?

  Amy Purdy, thank you so much. Appreciate you.

• 1:05:49Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:05:49Lewis Howes?

  Amazing. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately, that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And

• 1:06:34Lewis Howes?

  now it's time to go out there and do something great.