Confronting Humphrey Yang About ‘Diary of a CEO’ | Financial Advisors React

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:00Speaker 02

  Behind the scenes, Stephen Bartlett has a tablet in front of him, but he's also just on ChatGPT. Maybe I shouldn't have said that.

• 1:06Brian Preston?

  The only way you make money is for somebody to pay more than you paid.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  I would be careful of listening to people on the internet say that the only way to generate wealth is through a speculative asset. Housing is different because you can endlessly create more housing.

• 1:18Speaker 04

  Well, that doesn't pass the sniff test.

• 1:20Brian Preston?

  There's always going to be hard stuff. You have to figure out how you can pull yourself out. Content team's been busy. Had a great opportunity. We already have Humphrey Yang on the show, but better yet, Humphrey was just on the diary of a CEO. We were like, let's do a react to see what we think.

• 1:38Speaker 04

  Brent, I am so excited about this. Humphrey, thank you for being with us today. I can't wait to hear a little bit of behind the scenes and I can't wait to see what clips the team has pulled for us today.

• 1:47Speaker 02

  I can't wait either.

• 1:48Speaker 05

  Should people be actively investing? Or should they just put the money in an S and P 500 and be patient?

• 1:54Speaker 06

  I say most people should not be active investors. In fact, I say 98% of America should not be active investors. Just be a passive investor because if you don't want to put in the work, if you're not willing to put in the time and the effort to research, you're probably going to lose and many people do.

• 2:09Speaker 05

  So why do people want to be active investors? If the probability is stacked against them.

• 2:13Speaker 06

  Well, if you get a little bit better returns, if you're willing to put in the work, you can get better returns and it is possible. We do see people that are doing it consistently.

• 2:21Speaker 05

  Is there an element of fun and entertainment to this?

• 2:24Speaker 06

  Absolutely.

• 2:25Speaker 05

  People like sports betting and?

• 2:27Speaker 06

  That's the problem because the fun is I like researching versus, oh, I want to see my money go up tomorrow. If I buy a house tomorrow morning, am I going to go into Zillow in the afternoon and check what is my house price? Am I checking in the evening, what's my house price? No, because you know that this is something I want to own for the long term. Well, when I go into the stock market, because it's so liquid, I buy a stock in the morning. I'm checking it 15 minutes later. I'm checking at lunch. I'm checking in the bathroom, checking in the evening. And I'm getting anxiety because if it's going up or down, I'm very emotional. And that's that emotional control as an investor, which is just as important as the research that you're putting in.

• 3:03Speaker 05

  I see how fundamentally different all of this stuff.

• 3:07Speaker 04

  What a cliffhanger. I fundamentally differ because I was kind of right along with him. I loved everything that he was saying and I agree with 98% of everything that he just said.

• 3:18Brian Preston?

  We've heard that was minority mindset, right?

• 3:20Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 3:21Brian Preston?

  I can't remember his.

• 3:21Speaker 06

  Yes, preach.

• 3:22Brian Preston?

  I would be like preach, you know, because man, I wish I'd have gotten to go first. You know, these are the things I'd be saying because a lot of that stuff is spot on. The markets are so efficient, you know, just be passive.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  No, I really loved what he said. I mean, it's really true, you know, you buy a house, you're not checking the value of it on Zillow. Basically ever, maybe you check it once a year or, you know, whatever, once every five years. But with a stock, since it's so liquid, that's a pro and con, right? You could, you could buy and sell at any time. So liquidity is nice, but then you're checking it all the time. I'll give you a little bit of color on that scene and behind the scenes. Steven Bartlett has a tablet in front of him.

• 3:54Brian Preston?

  Okay.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  And he's going over show notes, like all the questions that he wants to ask, but he's also just on chat GPT a lot. Sorry, Steven. But yeah, but chat GPT helps him. Oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that, but chat GPT helps inform. I know, you know what? Steven, Steven does use chat GPT a lot and he has it in his behind the diary video channel. So I know that I can probably say that. And so he's usually researching stuff on chat GPT while guests are talking.

• 4:18Speaker 04

  It's pretty impressive that he can do that in an interview format while, while he's doing that. That's that's an impressive skill set. I'll tell you the one thing that Jaspreet said that I would just that just made me just ah tinge a little bit. He said that, hey, unless you're willing to put in the time, you shouldn't be an active investor. Well, he almost laid it next to, if you're willing to put in the time to be an active investor, you could be successful. I would argue, even that's not the case, even if you're willing to put in the time, I'm going to spend forty, fifty, sixty hours every single week trying to go out and beat the market. I would still argue there is a low probability that you'll actually be able to do it. And so if you want to set yourself up on the side of probabilities, where will I likely have the most success? Being a passive investor, not trying to beat the market, but just trying to be the market,

• 5:02Speaker 04

  will likely set you up for more success, whether you're willing to put the time in on research or not.

• 5:07Brian Preston?

  Yeah, just go check out the Spiva data.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I made a video on the Spiva data. The Spiva data is great. Spiva, that's another acronym, guys.

• 5:14Speaker 07

  See how fundamentally different all of this stuff is? People are so screwed. They are coming out of university with massive debts. We looked at the stat earlier. Percentage of thirty year olds who have a mortgage and are married has gone from fifty-two percent in nineteen fifty to twelve percent. Nobody can afford anything. So if you look at the average millennial in the US and a Gen Z, they generally have a 401K if they've got a job, right? They have some sort of savings. But they're taking massive amounts of risk. A lot of us would look at them and say, this is ridiculous.

• 5:51Speaker 05

  Why are they taking risk for anyone that doesn't?

• 5:52Speaker 07

  Because there is no way of closing the gap between buying, getting the deposit on the house, getting into a house, realizing that future vision of themselves, however reasonable that is.

• 6:01Speaker 05

  Why?

• 6:01Speaker 07

  It's so far away because the cost of assets has gone up so much versus the incomes don't go up.

• 6:06Speaker 05

  You mean the cost of buying like a house, for example?

• 6:09Speaker 07

  Yes, or even however much percentage share of the stock market, the average salary does, you know, stuff like that. You're getting less for your money.

• 6:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do want to point out one thing about the statistic that he led with there, which was like the the people that the percentage of people that were mortgaged and married from nineteen seventy till now. I think that data set in particular had both of those variables combined together. We already know that people aren't getting married as early as they once were.

• 6:34Speaker 04

  Much later, yeah.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  So that that number is already kind of pulled down. It's exaggeratedly skewed to the downside, I would say. So that is the one note I want to say about that.

• 6:43Speaker 04

  And I don't want to disagree with his with his premise that things are getting more expensive. Student loans are higher now than they will have been historically. The cost of housing is higher now than it has been historically. What I cannot reconcile is the way he started the clip was I fundamentally disagree with everything Jesprecht said. Here are some truths that exist in this world. What he didn't say is why what Jesprecht said does not actually align with why you need to be taking being an investor and passively invested seriously. Because the cost of things have been increasing and are likely going to continue to increase for the next 20, 30, 40 years. So you better be doing something to combat that.

• 7:18Brian Preston?

  Look, historically, if you go look at the Fred data, the Federal Reserve, the typical American, even in those periods he's talking about, were not investing hardly anything. You can't use just history because only people, people only had really assets from their home equity, not from S and P 500 investing and all the other type of things. I worry when somebody uses the shock and awe stats that he used, that it's going to turn off an entire generation. This will probably create some comments and some dust from it, but I put it in the book villains and victims never win. And, and, and I don't want you to look at yourself as a victim. Yes, there are some hard things that are coming your way, but I just know there's always going to be hard things that are coming your way. That does, you can't control that.

• 8:02Brian Preston?

  You can only take what you can control and try to make the best of the situation. The best you can make a situation is we have a growing economy with law of accelerating returns where things are getting faster and faster with innovation. That you can actually buy a small portion of that success, actually own assets that are going to appreciate faster than inflation. And you can pull yourself out. I did it. Bo did it. Humphrey did it. We can all do this. Just don't let somebody lock you into a mindset of behavior that you're not going to ever get out of this. Because I can tell you statistically, there's going to be a always going to be a bell curve.

• 8:41Brian Preston?

  Get to choose where you want to be in that bell curve of success because everybody else in your generation is facing the exact same thing. Figure out how you're going to pull yourself out of this. And I know a lot of you, you're going to say, Brian, you don't understand. I'm just telling you, there's always going to be hard stuff. You have to figure out how you can pull yourself out.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I like that. I think that, you know, his main premise is like, you're never going to close the gaps. You might as well take a really big swing. And I just don't, I fundamentally disagree with that. Yeah, he's setting you up a little bit. Yeah.

• 9:10Brian Preston?

  To go one hard way, you have to set up an extreme over here. I get it. I mean, people do that stuff in negotiations all the time. Go way over here so you can go over here with the next premise he's going to present to us.

• 9:20Speaker 06

  If we look at the crashes from, you know, recent history, 2020, stocks fell by 30%, Bitcoin fell by 50%. 2022, stocks fell by, the S and P fell by about 20%, Bitcoin fell by 60%. So in those times, people who are in the S and P are freaking out, selling.

• 9:41Speaker 07

  Yep, but here's the thing. This is the risk reward that people don't understand. If you've got a time horizon. Let's say the average drawdown in the S and P during a bear market is 25%. Drawdown being a drop. A lot, yeah, a drop, a drop in prices. You're getting compensated 15% a year returns for that at best. In Bitcoin, the average drawdown over the same period will be about 70%, but you're getting 150% return.

• 10:09Speaker 06

  If you're on the winning side, though. If I buy it and I can sell it for a higher price.

• 10:14Speaker 07

  Just hold it.

• 10:15Speaker 02

  I know you guys have a lot of takes on cryptocurrency, but you know, his main premise is like Bitcoin, since its inception has returned about 150% per year. But I think my argument on the, on the podcast itself was like, people aren't going to hold through a 70% drawdown. They're, they're out, you know, pretty quickly. You know, if I can't hold Apple stock through a 10% drawdown. You know, and I'm a reasonably, you know, I have the knowledge about investing and I, and I get scared at 10%. I don't know if I could hold it. I mean, I, I would probably hold it 70% because it's like, I can't lose that much more. But could I hold it for 15 years? Or if it was up double, would I just, wouldn't I just sell it at that point?

• 10:50Speaker 04

  If you think about the undulations they described in the stock market, a 25% drawdown, and they didn't talk about an upside. But let's say it's a 30, 40, 50% upside potential, right? On that same sort of undulation scale. And then you have Bitcoin, it's a 70% drawdown, 150. When you lengthen the distance between the trough and the peak, you have more opportunity to make a bad decision along that. So what you're doing with the S and P 500, you're actually like banding down both of those. That's going to be a much more consistent, much more stable ride for most investors. Cause I agree with you, most investors are likely to freak out on one side or the other. I'm either gonna lose 50% and I can't handle it anymore. I'm gonna make a hundred percent, I'm gonna get out while I can. At least when you buy the stock market, when you're buying the S and P 500, you recognize,

• 11:33Speaker 04

  yeah, that yo-yo is going up and down, but it's going up and down steadily up the mountain, higher, higher, higher, higher. And we have a hundred years of data to substantiate that claim that it is building, it is expanding. Companies are becoming more valuable, there is innovation happening. Those things are not necessarily true about cryptocurrency.

• 11:53Brian Preston?

  Just last week, I was responding to a, a, an X post where somebody had said, they used the rate of return assumption that said that Bitcoin was better than 401ks. But when you looked at the data, it's because they were using a 30% annual year over year growth rate versus the S and P, which is around 10 to 12%. They were saying, look, even with the free money from your employer, it's not going to keep up with 30%. I was like, man, that 30% assumption is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Cause Bitcoin, and look, I'm not trying to get into, is it good or bad? Cause I, I just don't think, but there is, it is one of those things. It's just like gold and the fact that the only way you make money is for somebody to pay more than you paid on it. It's not like it generates dividends, it doesn't generate income, it doesn't innovate.

• 12:36Brian Preston?

  It's only going to be if somebody pays more, be careful with that framing.

• 12:41Speaker 07

  Just hold it.

• 12:41Speaker 06

  That's the key.

• 12:42Speaker 07

  All of these are in a nice trend channel, they go up. Anybody can buy something and hold it long enough, it'll go up.

• 12:48Speaker 06

  Well, what about, let's look at housing. You can say the same thing about housing. 2008, housing crashed, just hold it. I have too much debt, I'm underwater, my bank's taking it from me. People are buying Bitcoin with debt.

• 12:58Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, that would, I would not recommend that, but. Housing is different because you can endlessly create more housing. And we have a demographic problem in housing that makes it more complicated. Demographic problem is, A, everyone's leaving the cities now. B, the generational gap, maybe you can afford the boomer houses. We don't have enough cheap housing for young people. People are relocating, moving around. So we've got a very interesting mismatch in real estate now that makes it more complicated than it used to be.

• 13:26Speaker 06

  Absolutely, and I do want to say, I think the part that we fundamentally differ is not that there's value in crypto. I own crypto. But the difference between you and I is you are all in crypto. For me, it's a speculative piece of my portfolio.

• 13:40Speaker 04

  I have a lot of friends and a lot of people I interact with that they own crypto. They have positions in crypto. And I'm not going to fight them on that no differently than I would fight someone who wanted to have an allocation to gold or to silver or whatever.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  Collectibles or wine.

• 13:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. But to go all in on it, I would have the same reaction as someone else who is all in on collectibles or wine or gold. I just don't know that's the prudent way to build for a financial future.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  What did you think about what he said about the housing and how there's no more housing or we can create infinite housing or something like that?

• 14:11Speaker 04

  Well, that doesn't pass the sniff test. I don't think we can create infinite housing. And I think a lot of areas, that's not something that is possible to do. And I don't think that what housing does and comparing housing as an asset class relative to Bitcoin as a holder of value is necessarily the same thing. Because one is a use asset, one is theoretically an investment asset. So I think your mixing can compare those. It was interesting, the conversation started on real estate and then went to housing. Which, housing does not represent all of real estate. Those are even two separate things that I'd want to bifurcate before we had the conversation.

• 14:44Brian Preston?

  I'm not against Bitcoin or any of these cryptos. It's just that I think that there's a, it comes off as way too speculative for me to take it completely serious. To Jaspreet's standpoint is I think it's more of a speculative play that I wouldn't want to be more than 3% to 5% of my total portfolio.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  I would be careful of listening to people on the internet say that the only way to generate wealth is through a speculative asset. Because you don't know what their financial position is either. I don't know what Raul's financial position is. Like, it could be that he built his wealth.

• 15:11Brian Preston?

  He could be one of those wells.

• 15:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, he could have built his wealth off crypto or he could have been already wealthy and then now is saying to younger people, hey, you should invest in this because it's the only way out of, you know, poverty, as he says. But I don't know Raul that well, but he was very cordial in the conversation, so I do want to at least give him a respect for that.

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• 16:31Speaker 02

  Deuce 145% returns since 2012. But in 2012, no one knew how to buy it. I bought it on some random sketchy website. I got this like, you know, this, this string of characters for my wallet. And I tried to buy, you know, I tried to buy a coffee at a cafe in Palo Alto. And I didn't know that Bitcoin transactions took 30 minutes to go through. So I sent Bitcoin twice for a $5 coffee. Now, keep in mind, this is 0.1 Bitcoins, right? This is 10K worth of Bitcoin.

• 16:57Speaker 08

  I sent it twice and they didn't get it. And guess what? I still had to pay for the coffee for my debit card.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  So where did my Bitcoin go?

• 17:03Speaker 05

  You spend what, 20K on?

• 17:04Speaker 02

  I spent 20K. Yeah, that could be the title of this video. I do, I do, I do that a lot. I, I try to break the fourth wall here. This could be the title of this video. But, but that is a true story. I was actually looking at my email this morning to see when that was. It was actually 2013, December 2013. I bought $100 worth of, actually what I did was I bought $100 worth of Ripple Labs. So if you've heard of Ripple, the cryptocurrency, about $100 worth. I was trying to convert it to Bitcoin. I was able to convert it to Bitcoin. And at that point, I think Coinbase was just getting started. So I was able to, I had the receipts. I sent 0.124 Bitcoins to this random wallet address, which is the cafe in Palo Alto. And the person on the other end of the register had no idea what was going on. They're like, oh, I didn't even know we could accept this because nobody was paying with it.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  I was, I was kind of like savvy. I was like, oh, look, I got a hundred bucks worth of this.

• 17:52Speaker 04

  Look how fancy I am. $20,000 cup of coffee.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's the other thing is that in 10 years, it could be a $50,000 cup of coffee or it could be a $1 cup of coffee. We don't know. And then the other thing is that the 145% annual return that, you know, one of the gentlemen is talking about is contingent on the fact that I held it since 2012. And that I knew how to buy it in 2012 or 2011 or whatever it was.

• 18:15Brian Preston?

  Well, and humans are so good at not being emotional and just holding stuff forever. Yes, just like just hold it. I mean, that's, that's so much easier said than actually done because we're very emotional creatures. That's not the relationship people have with money.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I also want to say if somebody, you know, if you put $10,000 into something and the next week it's at 20,000 or 30,000, you would be dumb to keep holding it, right? A lot of people would be like, well, I just doubled my money. I would have taken this way before I put $10,000 into it. So sometimes you just sell it. And so hindsight is 2020, but you can't, you can't really forecast that.

• 18:48Speaker 04

  Hindsight is a $20,000 cup of coffee.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  What about you Humphrey? $10,000, does your strategy change? My strategy is a little probably more conservative or traditional. It's probably 90% index funds. Uh, so tracking the S and P 500 and then 10% speculative. And my whole goal for that 25 year old would probably be to get to a hundred thousand dollars as quickly as possible. Because at that point, I think they get more options, flexibility, and they're able to kind of use that capital to maybe take more risk after. That's still 10 years with the S and P, well, eight years of the S and P. About 7.84 years. Yeah. But that also assumes that they're only doing the 10,000 bucks a year. Maybe they, they can save and invest a little bit more. That'd be nice. But I think for a lot of people in America, if they can get a guaranteed a hundred thousand dollars in 7.84 years, I, I think a lot of people might opt for that.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  I just filmed a video about how a hundred K would take, you know, 7.84 years to, to compound. But I did come off a little bit of a smart in that clip.

• 19:41Speaker 04

  You should. I kind of loved it. That was great. 7.84 years to get there.

• 19:45Speaker 02

  And also my hair looked really great. I think I had to grow it out a little more.

• 19:47Brian Preston?

  I did have to do a double check. Make sure you weren't, because it was a black.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 19:51Brian Preston?

  I was not wearing the same thing.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Turned to not wear the same thing.

• 19:53Brian Preston?

  So I'm glad to see it was a little different.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  So that clip was about how to invest $10,000. So you know, that's what I said, 90% index funds, 10% spec. 10% is quite a lot still, but I think we were talking about someone who was young, so 20 or 25 years old. So what would you guys do?

• 20:06Speaker 04

  I actually love what you said, $10,000, I'm going to buy some broad based, low cost index fund ETF. S and P 500 is a great option and odds are if I do that this year and then I do that again next year and then I do that again next year. I'm going to get to 100,000 very, very quickly, likely even faster than 7.84 years. And what's amazing is once you hit that first 100,000, then it just starts spilling over. You reach this kind of boiling point where now the money begins growing on itself so fast that how long it took you to get to the first 100 is way longer than it takes you to get to the next 100. And then once you get to the 500, it's way less to get to a million. And then once you get to a million and it just continues to compound and compound and compound, which gets really, really exciting.

• 20:44Speaker 04

  But the earlier you figure it out, the easier it is, we say this all the time, the absolute best time in the world to start investing was yesterday. That makes today the second best time to start.

• 20:56Brian Preston?

  Bro, you know, I think he just gave up the ghost of what he, because he was talking about how his path is so much faster. I always tell people be careful when somebody's promising you or are trying to sell you something that's outside the reality of what we've ever experienced. And I know from my own research and you've seen this from anybody who's ever talked about money. Typical millionaire is 49 years of age. It typically takes 27 years of building assets to, to reach that. Anybody who's telling you that they've got the path that's going to break those norms. My, my spidey senses be like, what are they trying to sell me?

• 21:30Speaker 02

  I, I will say to his defense, he doesn't have much to sell besides telling you to buy cryptocurrency.

• 21:34Brian Preston?

  Well, he does, but is the fact that if you are, if you're a concentrated holder of cryptocurrency.

• 21:39Speaker 02

  Oh, sure, sure, sure.

• 21:39Brian Preston?

  How do you make, how do you make more money in cryptocurrency? You have to convince people to pay more than you paid. So he has a conflict just in that. We all, anybody in per, anybody in finance has a conflict of interest when they start talking to you about products. We do too. Look, we're fee only financial advisors. We have to share with people what our conflicts are because anybody working in personal finance is got a conflict. So if you're a holder, a large concentrated holder of Bitcoin, you have a conflict of interest because you only can make more money if more people paid more than you paid.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Okay, fair point. I take it back.

• 22:12Speaker 05

  This word passive income, I know.

• 22:14Speaker 07

  It's driving nuts.

• 22:16Speaker 05

  Why does it drive you nuts?

• 22:17Speaker 07

  It is a, there's like a passive income industrialization complex that is, I mean, it is literally every millennial's dream is.

• 22:25Brian Preston?

  Yeah.

• 22:25Speaker 07

  I'm gonna get passive income. And it doesn't exist. We talked about property. Property is the least passive income you can imagine. It is awful. Every time I've tried to rent out property, there are so many costs, everything goes wrong. It's just endless. You're paying fees and people think there's, there's a magic passive income. Everything comes with effort. There is no such thing as returns without effort. That's, even robbery comes with effort, you know? There's, there's no way of making money without effort or risking something.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think I said in the podcast that dividends are pretty low effort, right? If you can get a pass, that's pretty passive if you, but, but you need the money to start. So that's, I understand.

• 23:03Speaker 04

  Then you gotta pick the what to buy, right? Like there's some effort that goes into it. But certainly different than trying to go out and manage a rental property, manage a commercial piece of real estate or something like that.

• 23:13Brian Preston?

  I mean, when I see that clip, it, cause it, it is a pet peeve of mine. How many content creators are out there talking about passive income? And they always, real estate, by the way, we own a lot of real estate. It is so not passive. If you're doing it right, it's not passive. All the people who talk about content creation is passive. I mean, does this feel like a passive?

• 23:35Speaker 02

  It's slightly easier than running the marathon, but it is still hard. It is still hard.

• 23:39Brian Preston?

  When we've done content on passive income, cause it is way overdone out there in social media. The closest thing is probably just being an index investor.

• 23:48Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 23:49Brian Preston?

  Because then you are just point it, set it, and, and then it, it's, it's amazing what the portfolio can do because it's back to don't try to beat the market, just be the market. And we do live in a pretty fascinating, incredible time to be alive where the pizza pie is getting bigger, the economy keeps growing, innovation keeps rolling. And it's kind of cool if you can just go buy a sliver of that and watch it grow.

• 24:11Speaker 05

  I've got a friend who's. Steadily compounded his, his bank balance over time. And I remember asking him, I said, how much money do you now have in your bank account? He's taken a really slow approach over time. He runs businesses freelance. And he goes, I think probably about a million dollars. And I was like, it's just sat on your bank account. He was like, yeah. And because he's scared. Like, he's scared. He doesn't know what to do with it. So he thinks just putting it in the bank account is the safest possible thing to do.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Well, it's a guaranteed loss. If you're, the average bank account in the United States today, not the high yield accounts, but the average account is paying 0.1%, 0.5%, I don't know, something, something super low. If we just say inflation is 3%, meaning the the cost you have to spend out of the bank account to buy something is going up by 3%. And that's the reported number. It's not the, the real inflation that many people feel. Well, that means there's a net loss of 2.5% on that. So if I have a million dollars there, that's $25,000 of lost buying power.

• 25:04Speaker 04

  What makes me so sad about Stephen's friend is that the hardest part is the saving. Having the discipline to be able to live on less than you make and be able to sock money away and put, that's the hard part. And yet so many people are able to do the hard part, but then they just leave out the next step. That, what I'm gonna say, the easier part of actually putting your money to work. Cause it's amazing. If he was able to build up an accumulated bank balance of a million dollars, it would be wild to see, had he been investing that in low cost index funds, low cost investments, what that could have turned into, or how much more quickly it could have gotten to a million. They did 90% of the hard work, but just didn't quite finish the drill.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Right. So you have to do the full hundred.

• 25:43Brian Preston?

  Humphrey, we have loved having you on the show today. If people want to know more about your content, where can they go find you?

• 25:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. You look me up on YouTube. It's Humphrey Yang, or just go to the description below. Hopefully I'll be linked there. And perhaps this is a collab post as well. So you can click on my channel there. And also fun fact, we filmed for four hours for that podcast.

• 26:01Brian Preston?

  Holy cow.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  And it was cut down to two. So you missed a lot of back and forth between the two other gentlemen. And I was struggling to get some words in there, but hopefully you got a lot of my words in today.

• 26:13Brian Preston?

  Any other, any other kind of behind the scenes?

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. So like while you were shooting the podcast, what's really cool is they have a photographer come and take photos of you while you're shooting it. And then at the end of the Podcast, they print out a book, a bound book of all the photos of you on the show with the quotes that you said on the show. And then the bound book gets passed to Steve and the host, and he signed it and gives it to you as a parting gift. And that's a really great parting gift. Makes me feel really good about coming on the show. So I will see you guys after this show, and I will expect this book from you guys as well.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  So funny you mention that Humphrey. We have a gift for, I'm kidding, it'd be awesome if we did that.

• 26:47Brian Preston?

  Let me get you a signed copy of Billionaire Mission right now.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Oh, I would like that. But we were talking about this at lunch. So that's why I just wanted to bring up the story again.

• 26:55Brian Preston?

  You said something, though, when we were sharing, and I don't mean to pull more behind the scenes, and maybe where they, you said pumping air. So I immediately got a visual. They're like cold air or laughing gas. What type of air are they pumping on you?

• 27:06Speaker 02

  I think it's just oxygen.

• 27:07Speaker 04

  O2, so that your cognitive function can happen more.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I guess they just.

• 27:12Brian Preston?

  Do you feel it? Or you smell it? Is it, that's kind of unique to me.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  You kind of hear it because you can kind of, because the vents are at the bottom of your feet, and you kind of feel it on your feet. You know, it's something that you kind of noticed because I remember I was filming, and it was a little hot in there. And then all of a sudden, the air turned on. I was like, oh, this is nice. And then I got a little bit more cognitively alert.

• 27:29Speaker 04

  So funny, you said laughing. They pump in O2 at the diversity. We pump in laughing gas.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  Look, he's laughing already.

• 27:37Speaker 04

  We messed it up.

• 27:38Brian Preston?

  Thank you for coming on today. It has been an absolute blast. I love collaborating. I love when we meet other people. You can tell you, you have the heart of an educator.

• 27:47Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 27:47Brian Preston?

  And I think we are helping the world to become a better place. I'm your host, Brian Preston, joined by Bo Hanson, of course, Humphrey. Money Guy Team, out.

• 28:02Speaker 09

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