Pod Insights Baby, this is Keke Palmer Secrets to Hollywood Love & Longevity with Nicole Ari Parker About this episode What’s the secret to a thriving career as a working mom and a long-lasting Hollywood love story? Nicole Ari Parker has the secret sauce! She joins Keke to dish on her 20-year marriage to Boris Kodjoe — and how it all started with a steamy first kiss on the set of Soul Food. Nicole gets real about stepping into And Just Like That as Lisa Todd Wexley, from early fan backlash to all the designer drama, and what she hopes is next for LTW. And you know Keke’s gotta fangirl over ALL of Nicole’s iconic roles — Sharon even hosts a Brown Sugar showdown that pits the star against Keke the ultimate superfan!
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0:04 Keke Palmer? Y'all, today's guest is that girl. Actress, mother, wife, businesswoman, and absolute queen. Nicole Ari Parker is in the building. From Soul Food to Brown Sugar, yes. And welcome home, Roscoe Jenkins, some of my favorites. And of course, Lisa Todd Wexley. Today, she's spilling all the tea on her move back to New York, life as an empty nester, and yes, what 20 years of marriage to Boris Kojo really looks like. So baby, let's get into it.
0:58 Keke Palmer? This episode is presented in partnership with Airbnb, where summer adventures feel like a home away from home. Speaking of unforgettable moments, well, you'll see. Let's start the show. Okay, Nicole, I'm so happy that you're here on the show. You look absolutely incredible.
1:15 Speaker 01 So do you.
1:16 Keke Palmer? But I have to be honest, I'm really excited to see what you have over here because you told me that you got me a gift.
1:21 Speaker 01 You were trying to sneak and look.
1:23 Keke Palmer? I know, I'm so excited. So first of all, I have to read the card because I'm an absolute card person.
1:28 Speaker 01 Well, you know.
1:29 Keke Palmer? Kiki, continued blessings to you, beautiful one. You guys know, I know Nicole for, since I got into the industry, since I was about 10 years old. I did second time around. That was like one of the first gigs that I did.
1:40 Speaker 01 Well, that was the first show that was developed for Boris and I, and right after Soul Food.
1:45 Keke Palmer? Yep.
1:45 Speaker 01 And then after the first season, I was pregnant with Sophie, who loves you, by the way.
1:50 Keke Palmer? Yes, I love Sophie too. But I'll never forget because you guys would treat me like your little baby. I remember that, you and Boris, always.
1:57 Speaker 01 And every time we would see you out, we would like hug you.
2:00 Keke Palmer? I felt like you guys were like my TV parents, my industry parents, because y'all were always being so uplifting to me and loving to me.
2:07 Speaker 01 So proud of you.
2:08 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh.
2:10 Speaker 01 I love you guys.
2:11 Keke Palmer? This is... Oh, so you remember I love these. I feel like I DM'd you and telling you how much I was obsessed with these.
2:15 Speaker 01 I didn't get it.
2:16 Keke Palmer? Yes, I told you that. Yeah, I did, I told you how much I loved it for my hair, period, girl. And you know I love a Pilates day.
2:23 Speaker 01 Yes.
2:24 Keke Palmer? So I need to make sure that that hair is staying on lock.
2:26 Speaker 01 Yes, edges for days will stay laid.
2:28 Keke Palmer? Let me see what little... Uh, patterns that you got me. That's good. That's how you know it's a good product. Boom.
2:35 Speaker 01 That's my new collection. Yes.
2:37 Keke Palmer? Congratulations.
2:38 Speaker 01 You can wear them on your vacation, when you're just at the beach and you want to get your hair out your face, or when you're working out, or...
2:45 Keke Palmer? And then I see I've got a hat, so it's...
2:47 Speaker 01 Yes, you can share with your friends and your family.
2:50 Keke Palmer? I absolutely love it. Thank you so much. This is amazing. And I love gifts. I really do hope any guests can continue in Nicole's footsteps. Because I love a gift. Well, I'm so excited to be talking with you and being with you, because I feel like we haven't sat down in a long time.
3:05 Speaker 01 I know. We're always screaming in a hallway at an event or something. You were just at the BT Awards.
3:10 Keke Palmer? Yep, just saw Boris, and it was so cool seeing, uh, him and Kevin and the gang up there, you know, reviving The Husbands of Hollywood by. It was so amazing. I love that show. And also, you just moved back to New York? You guys just moved to New York?
3:23 Speaker 01 Yes.
3:24 Keke Palmer? How is it going?
3:25 Speaker 01 I've been the one in the family that's, for years, have been like, I want... I'm from the East Coast.
3:29 Keke Palmer? I'm gonna say you're an East Coast girl.
3:30 Speaker 01 Yes, I'm from Baltimore, and, um, but I lived in New York forever, then LA, but finally Boris walked into the bathroom and said, "It's time."
3:41 Speaker 01 Our house sold in two days. It was nothing but God. Like, everything moved just like that.
3:44 Keke Palmer? And then you guys are also empty nesters now, too, so the kids, like, were gone.
3:48 Speaker 01 Yes. Everybody says that, but as we speak, my daughter, Sophie, is at the crib with, like, five friends.
3:55 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
3:57 Speaker 01 It's summertime. She's at Howard right now. It's, she has a big internship this summer, but that doesn't start until next week, so...
4:02 Keke Palmer? Wait a minute, what's the big internship? Can you tell me? You maybe can't tell me. What field?
4:06 Speaker 01 Finance.
4:07 Keke Palmer? Dang, she's serious.
4:08 Speaker 01 Yeah, she's the real deal.
4:10 Keke Palmer? At least you got somebody to worry about that money. I do love that. That's good for the family business.
4:13 Speaker 01 Somebody has to be the finance bro in the family.
4:16 Keke Palmer? Okay, so you guys are somewhat empty nesters, but obviously, baby girl Sophie, she's right, right across the pond in DC, in New York, so she's coming over to hang out with you guys.
4:24 Speaker 01 My house is full. That's what I'm trying to say. I want the nest to be empty. Twenty years of marriage. Everybody, get out!
4:32 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh. Well, was there a particular amount of time when they, when she went, uh, to Howard, where you guys felt like you had time alone, or was your son still there?
4:41 Speaker 01 That was the first time that I felt like... Because Nicholas plays basketball for Germany, you know, he's
4:45 Keke Palmer? That's what I was like, he's overseas.
4:47 Speaker 01 His dad's German, so he's a German citizenship.
4:49 Keke Palmer? It's so incredible.
4:50 Speaker 01 He's playing in the World Cup.
4:51 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
4:53 Speaker 01 And the only reason I hesitated about information about Sophie is because right now, they're saying, we have a joke in our family called Funny You Should Ask. Because no matter what you say to me, like, oh, girl, I like your shoes. You know what's so funny about shoes? Is that my son Nicholas wears a 15 and he's only 18. You want to know why? Because he's playing with Bayern Munich.
5:12 Keke Palmer? You always find a way.
5:13 Speaker 01 Always find a way to talk about my kids, yes.
5:16 Keke Palmer? That's like a mother's love.
5:17 Speaker 01 I'm so proud of them.
5:18 Keke Palmer? Until you find any random thing to bring you back to that baby.
5:21 Speaker 01 I know.
5:22 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, well, congratulations to both of them. Those are both incredible things.
5:25 Speaker 01 Yes.
5:26 Keke Palmer? So, I mean, you're back in New York, you're on In Just Like That.
5:29 Speaker 01 Yes, we taped it last year, but it's on the air now on Max. And, um, but, so you know how that works, like you shoot it, it's in the can. And right before it premieres, you have the very intense press tour. So it's been non-stop.
5:43 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
5:44 Speaker 01 This was the only stop I needed to make.
5:47 Keke Palmer? Yes, I'm so thrilled.
5:49 Speaker 01 I watch you all the time, you know, it's like, my whole family's gagging.
5:54 Keke Palmer? And you, and you, and you just set it off with this look. I feel like, is there a certain level of energy and thought that goes into doing a press tour for In Just Like That? I mean, this is the fashion of the century, and you haven't missed once. So do you feel the pressure of that? Or are you just that girl like that, which I think you are?
6:11 Speaker 01 Well, the character has a way better closet than me. Okay, she's that top to bottom, like.
6:16 Keke Palmer? She definitely is.
6:17 Speaker 01 LTW does not play. For me, I'm just eclectic and wear what I like.
6:21 Keke Palmer? Yeah, yeah.
6:22 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:23 Keke Palmer? Now, was there something emotional about the move? Or did you just guys feel like it was the right time? Leaving back, leaving California, I guess, really is what I'm saying, moving from here.
6:31 Speaker 01 You know when you're done? Like, not even in a negative way?
6:34 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
6:34 Speaker 01 Like, I wanted to be a pedestrian again. I wanted to be in the hustle and the bustle and the grind.
6:39 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
6:40 Speaker 01 Boris really wanted a yard and a house. Because even when you live, we live down in Manhattan Beach, and they were like, you know, the houses are beautiful, but the, you don't have a backyard. We've got a front yard and a backyard in the Hudson River. It's like his dream, you know? He's from the mountains and woods of Germany, so he's happy. But I like being close to the city, too. It's just perfect.
7:01 Keke Palmer? Yeah, and I mean, I know we talked a little bit about Sophie being there, but you guys also did a Howard pop in. I'm curious of how she felt when you guys went down there. You kind of showed up incognito. How did everybody react? Was she embarrassed? Or is she cool with it? I mean, she knows you guys are famous.
7:16 Speaker 01 Well, yeah, but you know.
7:18 Keke Palmer? She knows.
7:19 Speaker 01 It's more that mommy and daddy are here. Yeah, yeah. She's my homebub, you know.
7:24 Keke Palmer? Because sometimes I feel like Leo is like, Mom, get the hooting and hollering out of here. Like, stop with the drama. Sometimes he's like a little weird about it, but he settles into it. But sometimes he doesn't know how to deal with people responding to me that way.
7:36 Speaker 01 I know, they, yeah. Because you're the, you're his mommy.
7:39 Keke Palmer? Just the mom, exactly. So I want to talk about Lisa Todd Wexley and Just Like That. What has she taught you about speaking up and taking space? Because we haven't really seen a character like this. I feel like I know them in real life, but like seeing them on this show in this way, especially going back to the first season where I definitely didn't, I mean, first, you know, edition of the show. We didn't see any characters like this.
8:01 Speaker 01 Right.
8:02 Keke Palmer? So how does it feel to play her? And what was in your mind going into the character?
8:06 Speaker 01 Well, you know, we all know that that lady exists.
8:08 Keke Palmer? Yes.
8:09 Speaker 01 Right? Upper East Side, very wealthy, very well-educated, black woman, black family. And, and that, you know, the city now looks like the city, right? But.
8:19 Keke Palmer? Yes.
8:19 Speaker 01 I wasn't ready for the backlash and the resistance to introducing these new characters, new sexualities, new dynamics. It, you know, this was diehard 20-plus years fans.
8:34 Keke Palmer? Of course.
8:35 Speaker 01 So I had to be tough and take it, you know. Coming over on my page, I'm like, lady, I don't know you. Like, why? Are you just like? And it was, it was tough, but slowly, you know. And even they love to criticize. They watch to say, what is that? And all that, but.
8:54 Keke Palmer? And I remember thinking when I was talking to people about the show, too, is like, sometimes I think the audience has to catch up to the commentary. Like, for instance, when I first watched Sex and the City, I was really, really young, and I'm like, what are they talking about? But then when I turned 30, I'm like, yes.
9:06 Speaker 01 Right.
9:07 Keke Palmer? Exactly. You know, so like, a lot of times, like, you maybe, you maybe have to catch up to the conversation because a lot of the characters have changed in their life.
9:15 Speaker 01 Yes.
9:15 Keke Palmer? You know, they're no longer 30, they're now late 40s, 50s. You know, they're having a different conversation of way of looking at things. And I think it is a timestamp of how things have changed.
9:24 Speaker 01 But at the same time, I was just talking about this. There are 50-year-olds who are fresh out of a marriage or long relationship. The kids are gone and they're entering the dating scene. And they're trying to figure out they have the same insecurity as the 30-year-old. But they've got a solid group of friends. It's like, it still has the essence of women in the city.
9:44 Keke Palmer? Exactly, but in a different perspective and time. And that's what I really like about it.
9:48 Speaker 01 Season one, my first day of work, I had to enter into the classic lunch scene. And I'm a cool girl.
9:55 Keke Palmer? Were you a big fan of the show before?
9:56 Speaker 01 Yes. But I was shaking. And we were shooting, um, we were shooting at a museum. I'm drawing a blank. And, uh, it was all glass windows. And the fans started to realize, the New York City fans started to realize.
10:11 Keke Palmer? And they don't play, the New York fans and paparazzi taking a whole new life.
10:14 Speaker 01 Nicole backed one. I went back to one and I turned around and like right behind you was like 400 people with their like faces pressed to the glass. I was like, oh my god.
10:25 Keke Palmer? I mean, that must be insane entering such a big franchise like that.
10:29 Speaker 01 Oh, it's insane.
10:29 Keke Palmer? Yeah, it is insane. I, I, I want to play a game with you to learn a little bit of tea about, about the girls. So I want to play most likely to for all the In Just Like That cast.
10:39 Speaker 01 Okay, I'm the new girl, okay? I'm, I might be number 10 on the call sheet, okay?
10:43 Keke Palmer? So, period. It steals every scene. Holler at you, girl. Okay, so let's get a little bit into this tea. Most likely to send a voice note instead of a text?
10:55 Speaker 01 Maybe Carrie.
10:57 Keke Palmer? Hmm, okay.
10:59 Speaker 01 You know she does the voiceovers at the end, yeah.
11:01 Keke Palmer? Yes, that feels very, very much on brand. Okay, most likely to respond first?
11:06 Speaker 01 Charlotte.
11:08 Keke Palmer? I love Charlotte. Most likely to butt dial the chat by mistake?
11:14 Speaker 01 Oh, Miranda.
11:18 Keke Palmer? I feel like I'm somewhere between Miranda and Carrie. Cause I can be very stiff like Miranda and very anal about everything. But then also kind of like main character all day, every day, like Carrie.
11:28 Speaker 01 Right.
11:29 Keke Palmer? Um, okay, most likely to go MIA and stop responding?
11:34 Speaker 01 SEMA.
11:37 Speaker 01 You know, Serita and I are best friends in real life.
11:39 Keke Palmer? No.
11:40 Speaker 01 Yes, for like 25 years.
11:41 Keke Palmer? And did y'all both know you were gonna be on the show at the same time?
11:43 Speaker 01 We found out like a day, day or two apart.
11:45 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
11:46 Speaker 01 But like, we were like world broke actresses together, like sharing a shirt for an audition broke. Like, let's go get a margarita broke.
11:54 Keke Palmer? Oh, my goodness. That's everything. It's so good. I feel like in the industry, and I have the same kind of relationships where it's like, I was just, you know, cheering on Leon Thomas at the BET Awards. You know, anybody that I see that I knew we were kids together, working in this industry, it's so good to see, hey, we still in it.
12:10 Speaker 01 Right.
12:10 Keke Palmer? And growing and evolving.
12:12 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:12 Keke Palmer? Okay, most likely to say, who all is going before committing?
12:18 Speaker 01 Charlotte's husband. Harry.
12:22 Speaker 01 Harry.
12:23 Keke Palmer? So, the Guardian praise and just like that for weaving in characters, obviously like Lisa and Seema in complex and realistic ways, rather than tokio roles, which is something that obviously is always what we're thinking about as minorities coming into a predominantly white show. So what did you appreciate most about Lisa when you were coming into the show and looking at the character?
12:43 Speaker 01 I was talking about this recently, and what I loved is, you know, MPK, the brilliant writer and one of the creators of the show, he put black women in the writers' room.
12:54 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
12:55 Speaker 01 Dope writers in the writers' room and of different ages, of different identities. And I mean, so some of the things that are happening, the art in my house, the decor around the character's desk.
13:08 Keke Palmer? Yeah, says something about her culture.
13:10 Speaker 01 My coffee cups.
13:11 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
13:11 Speaker 01 You know, everything is intentional and, and spot on. And it's like, instead of trying to like, just throw it on the wall, he was like, let me try to do it right. And, and me being a white man, like, I might not know something. I mean, I, I have a great eye, I'm a great writer, I've got multicultural friends, but...
13:30 Keke Palmer? But still, let's push it.
13:31 Speaker 01 Let's get it right.
13:32 Keke Palmer? Yeah, yeah. Now, I have to go back to one of the first things I know of you, which is Soul Food, the insanely iconic television series that you guys did from the original IP, that was a movie, which is one of my favorite, favorite movies. And I mean, it gave us you and Boris. I mean, that, as far as I know, that was the first time you guys met or knew each other. So, I want to just go back to that time in your life. Did you think... Wow, this would be my husband. Or did you have an immediate inkling of a crush? Like, just what was happening in that time period? Because first of all, the show was the hottest thing on television already. Um, so yeah, so take me back to that, because I have to, I have to go back to the beginning.
14:11 Speaker 01 25 years ago, oh my god.
14:13 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh!
14:14 Speaker 01 I know. Um, he walked into the room and like, everybody fainted. The chairs fainted.
14:23 Keke Palmer? Chairs fanning gives me life, girl, yes. The chairs fainted for my husband.
14:27 Speaker 01 And I, you know, I was a classically trained actress coming from New York. Went to NYU and they hired our supermodel to play my boyfriend and he's just like, he has a German accent, like, he was fresh off the boat. He was like, hello? And I was like, oh my god. And so the first love scene we had, he was so nervous. He was so nervous. But Eric LaSalle was directing, the pilot.
14:55 Keke Palmer? Yes, shout out to him.
14:56 Speaker 01 I was like, and he was like, cut, because Boris was so scared to kiss for real. Or not like actors that we don't slob each other down.
15:06 Keke Palmer? No, it's nerve wracking, like, one of the limits.
15:07 Speaker 01 Yeah. And there's a way to, he didn't even know how to do it fake for the camera. So it was really late, Eric LaSalle was like, everybody take five. And I was like, come here.
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17:39 Speaker 01 You know how you have these little panels in the studio? I took him behind the panel. I grabbed his face. I kissed him.
17:46 Keke Palmer? No, God!
17:49 Keke Palmer? So scary.
17:50 Speaker 01 And I said, "It's late. That's how you kiss."
17:55 Keke Palmer? And that's why he says gotta be my wife. What sign are you, Nicole?
18:00 Speaker 01 I'm a Libra.
18:01 Keke Palmer? Acting like this. Libra's always a freaky and like to keep it tucked. I know about y'all. I know about y'all. Oh, my gosh.
18:09 Speaker 01 What are you?
18:10 Keke Palmer? I'm a Virgo. I'm right, I'm close up.
18:11 Speaker 01 My mommy's a Virgo.
18:12 Keke Palmer? When's her birthday?
18:13 Speaker 01 September 22nd.
18:14 Keke Palmer? Okay. So that was y'all's first kiss ever?
18:19 Speaker 01 Yeah, but he, you understand, it was Toronto. He had every girlfriend on the planet.
18:26 Keke Palmer? Wow.
18:27 Speaker 01 And so I wasn't, why would I put myself in that position? No. So at the end of the fourth season, we knew the show wasn't gonna come back. I had saved a little money.
18:36 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
18:37 Speaker 01 And I was gonna buy my first house.
18:38 Keke Palmer? Fabulous.
18:39 Speaker 01 In L.A. And so we were all friends. I'm still friends, like, they are my sisters, Vanessa and Melinda.
18:44 Keke Palmer? I love ya.
18:44 Speaker 01 So he was like, "Uh, let me just look with you." So I had found the house. It was in my price range. It was gonna be my first purchase. And he's walking around the house, he's looking around, and he goes,
18:59 Speaker 01 "You know, we could get more space if we did it together."
19:04 Keke Palmer? No, he didn't, girl.
19:04 Speaker 01 Yes, he did.
19:06 Keke Palmer? This is crazy, actually. Wait a second. That don't even sound real. I need the Nicole and Boris movie. If that's how it was happening.
19:16 Speaker 01 Should I write a little book?
19:17 Keke Palmer? You're kidding me.
19:18 Speaker 01 No.
19:18 Keke Palmer? So you guys had, obviously, y'all, y'all working on the show, y'all built a great friendship. Y'all, you know, I mean, there's stuff, there's love there.
19:24 Speaker 01 Dating, cuz his character left the show before the show ended.
19:27 Keke Palmer? Yes, yes.
19:27 Speaker 01 Cuz I didn't want, this was my big break. What if he broke my heart and now I'm depressed on my show?
19:32 Keke Palmer? With him walking around.
19:33 Speaker 01 Yeah, with 18 girlfriends. I wasn't gonna do all that.
19:36 Keke Palmer? That's smart. You never [BLEEP] where you sleep.
19:38 Speaker 01 Yes, that's the one.
19:39 Keke Palmer? Or work.
19:40 Speaker 01 So he was gone, so I had a year to, like, decompress, and he had a year, duh, duh, duh.
19:46 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
19:46 Speaker 01 But what happened is, uh, Melinda said the same thing.
19:51 Speaker 01 It was the last season, so we were sending emails. We were like, you know.
19:54 Keke Palmer? Sending emails is so nostalgic.
19:56 Speaker 01 Yeah.
19:57 Keke Palmer? No texts.
19:58 Speaker 01 I don't even know, but, yeah. And so, Melinda and I shared, we rented a big house in the last season and we shared the house. And I opened.
20:06 Keke Palmer? You guys were so close.
20:07 Speaker 01 I know. And then she, I got a big email and I opened the attachment and it was a picture of the house that he said after that one, we should get. And it was like, it had a little pool, it had a tennis court, because you know, he played. And a house.
20:23 Keke Palmer? Oh my god.
20:24 Speaker 01 And he's standing in front of it, and he says, "I found our house." Melinda walked in, she goes, "What you doing, girl?" She always had good snacks. She was like, "What you doing?"
20:33 Keke Palmer? I loved it.
20:35 Speaker 01 She's like, "What you doing, girl?" And I just turned the, the computer around and she read what it said. And she goes, "What kind of Gucci you got?"
20:45 Keke Palmer? Okay, can't get no Gucci out the queen. Yes! Or I guess you can. I know, that's right. Girl, this is so fabulous.
20:56 Speaker 01 Oh, I just remembered Sophie and Nicholas come watch.
20:59 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, that is everything. What I think is so awesome is like, everybody wants, oh, two entertainers together, but it's really not that easy.
21:05 Speaker 01 No.
21:06 Keke Palmer? Because there's so much ego that could be involved.
21:07 Speaker 01 I can tell you though, he was the one that, you know, you think, so you can't make a man or a woman do anything they don't want to do.
21:14 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
21:15 Speaker 01 He really wanted married and kids. Like, you know, some men want that. Even if they play, play all day, but when they are ready to do that, and he really wanted to be married with kids. And we got a boy and a girl, and two dogs.
21:31 Keke Palmer? Period.
21:32 Speaker 01 Period.com.
21:32 Keke Palmer? Been attached at the hip ever since.
21:35 Speaker 01 Twenty years. And it's not.
21:36 Keke Palmer? What a blessing.
21:37 Speaker 01 It is not happy, happy days every day.
21:39 Keke Palmer? Sure.
21:39 Speaker 01 But, we're in a new phase now, like, of, like you said, the kids are gone.
21:45 Keke Palmer? Yeah, yeah.
21:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, they're back all the time.
21:46 Keke Palmer? I mean, it's a different, yeah, different transition life. So how do you feel in that? How do you think that has, like, changed the way that you guys, I mean, I see online all the time, the communication between you guys is, as far as I know, flirtier as it's always been.
21:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
21:58 Keke Palmer? You guys are planning these big dates.
21:59 Speaker 01 I think it's a resurgence right now. Yeah, cuz also we're working actors, so there's a grind in the middle passage.
22:05 Keke Palmer? Yep.
22:06 Speaker 01 But right now, all of a sudden, it's like, you know, something new. I don't really have words for it yet.
22:12 Keke Palmer? Yeah. I guess also that's the thing too, when kids come, like you have each other, it's just you two, and then it's the three or four, have any more kids that you guys have. And so then when those kids go, it's kind of like, oh yeah, it used to be this before. Let me get back into that bag. That's what my parents would always say as well. Well, let's stay on this, on this throwback because you also were in one of my favorite movies, Brown Sugar Girl. I know you always, my divorce, that scene, and you, I can't believe that you was cheating, girl. That was crazy cheating on that man. But I love that boxing scene with you and Sanaa Latifah, and all the things I fight to know, you already got. Whatever it is, it was so good. I love that scene. All the things I'm finding to understand, you already know.
22:55 Keke Palmer? Whip that hair back, you look so good, girl. So you have to tell me, how was filming that movie? Because obviously when we, you know, it couldn't be that way then because time has to pass. But that is the golden era of not just black rom coms, but rom coms in general.
23:10 Speaker 01 Right.
23:11 Keke Palmer? Like you guys were setting a new foundation of things that we would look and want to redo for years. So when you see it now, or when you think about it now, like what do you remember about that time and how the impact is impacted?
23:23 Speaker 01 Well, it was really interesting cuz that was the first movie, one of the first movies after nine 11, they got permits to shoot in the city. It was like heavy in the air. And so this was a burst of joy. And the people seeing Queen Latifah on the street and, and Mos Def and Taye Diggs and Sanaa. And everybody was just like, it was a really good energy when we were on location cuz people needed it. And, and then the cast just acted a fool. We just acted a fool.
23:54 Keke Palmer? You guys look like you had so much fun. I mean, I heard about so much. I talked to Tay and he was saying so many different things you guys were doing with improv.
24:00 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, for sure.
24:01 Keke Palmer? I mean, so when I'm thinking about doing a movie with my cast, I'm like, OK, we have the cast dinner, we have the rap party. What was y'all cast dinner, rap party, after hours, hanging out? What was that like?
24:11 Speaker 01 I don't remember that. I don't remember. The set was like the party.
24:15 Keke Palmer? Really?
24:15 Speaker 01 Yes, those group scenes on the floor. On the floor, like the hip hop Dalmatians. Remember those two?
24:24 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, yes. The girl is mine. Say what, say what, what?
24:28 Speaker 01 The hoe is mine.
24:29 Keke Palmer? Yeah, the hoe is mine. That was so good. I really loved that movie. I loved it also because of the, like, not only the love story, but the conversation around hip hop's love story to its culture.
24:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
24:42 Keke Palmer? I think that's so, like, even watching it now and seeing how hip hop has changed. And sometimes it feels as if the culture has been stripped from it. When you look at a movie like that, I think it really puts into perspective of why hip hop was created.
24:53 Speaker 01 Right. I think part of it is the pressure to, you know, get those numbers.
24:57 Keke Palmer? That's right.
24:58 Speaker 01 And, you know, become branded before you become.
25:02 Keke Palmer? You.
25:03 Speaker 01 You.
25:04 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
25:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
25:05 Keke Palmer? And that movie.
25:05 Speaker 01 Like, Mos Def came out the gate, Mos. Like, you know.
25:09 Keke Palmer? Yep.
25:10 Speaker 01 And he was like, by my record or not, and then it just spread, you know. Most of, most of the New York artists were like that back in the day.
25:16 Keke Palmer? Yeah. I love that movie. When I watched it again as an adult, I was like, oh, my gosh, there's two great stories that are happening here. Um, I'm curious of what you think. And maybe you don't even think this, but like, what do you think that this generation of rom coms, what they could borrow from that era? Or what is missing?
25:33 Speaker 01 Hmm, like Love Jones.
25:35 Keke Palmer? Yeah, Love Jones.
25:36 Speaker 01 Yes.
25:36 Keke Palmer? Best Man. I mean, that was more like coming of age, but, you know, obviously Brown Sugar.
25:41 Speaker 01 I think it's in the writing. And I think it's in capturing.
25:48 Speaker 01 The tenderness that we don't see in movies about us all the time. You know, friendships, remember? Like, best man that-
25:57 Keke Palmer? Just about friendship.
25:57 Speaker 01 Yes.
25:58 Keke Palmer? Your college.
25:59 Speaker 01 Or, um-
26:00 Keke Palmer? The woods.
26:01 Speaker 01 Love.
26:02 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
26:02 Speaker 01 In, uh, you know, peace, there's a peaceful through line that, that I think, you know, could be brought back in movies about us.
26:10 Keke Palmer? I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, I think there's so much, often with our culture, there's so much focus on the sensationalism. But that's one of the main things that we remember about that. I mean, at the end of the day, Taylors character was an executive, so were you.
26:22 Speaker 01 Yes.
26:22 Keke Palmer? You know, like, everybody was seen in like a light of not just being somebody on the streets. Like, there was elements of that. But it was like, we, there's nuance to these characters that also just fit in everyday life.
26:34 Speaker 01 Which brings us back to the LTW on, and just like that, like, this woman exists.
26:39 Keke Palmer? That's right.
26:39 Speaker 01 These young black people exist in New York, in Chicago, in DC, everywhere. And it's not a big deal.
26:47 Keke Palmer? Nope.
26:47 Speaker 01 Like, in a house, in a house party, in a brownstone in Brooklyn, you will find all these people. And the friend from the hood.
26:54 Keke Palmer? That's right.
26:55 Speaker 01 It's like-
26:56 Keke Palmer? And we all kicking it together.
26:57 Speaker 01 Yes.
26:57 Keke Palmer? Yes. Um, speaking of that, I mean, you've been in a lot of really iconic black millennial core memories. I mean, like, Remember the Titans, Blue Streak, I literally live for Blue Streak. Girl, that movie's so good. And that was just, that's your first one with Martin? Because obviously you did Welcome Home, Roscoe Jenkins. Girl, you know I know your credits. Yes, and I love Welcome Home, Roscoe Jenkins. Yes. You was always coming in looking fine somewhere. Um, so, yeah, Blue Streak, Brown Sugar. If you could reboot just one.
27:30 Speaker 01 Oh.
27:31 Keke Palmer? Which one would you do?
27:34 Keke Palmer? Remember the Titans would be a great TV show, wasn't it?
27:37 Speaker 01 Oh.
27:37 Keke Palmer? No, it wasn't a TV show.
27:38 Speaker 01 No, it wasn't a TV show, but that would have been-
27:40 Keke Palmer? But it could have been.
27:41 Speaker 01 I would like to see what happened with the cast of Brown Sugar.
27:45 Keke Palmer? Girl, yes, because I lived when they gave us Best Man Holiday, Best Man Thanksgiving, Best Man.
27:50 Speaker 01 I did the la- I did the Best Man final chapter.
27:52 Keke Palmer? Girl, I loved the Best Man final chapter. Again, another great exploration of characters in a different stage in their lives. Truly good writing where it's not just, hey, they're here. No, like when Terrence Howard's character went through that moment where he, I think it was a heart attack or like the health conversation as we get older. Like, they really tackled real topics. When the love dies in a marriage, when we're getting a divorce. So, I loved what they did with that. I would definitely love it.
28:19 Speaker 01 You'd really be watching movies.
28:20 Keke Palmer? Girl, too many.
28:22 Speaker 01 My next job, I'm gonna be like, we need to keep this authentic because Kiki is gonna peep the lie.
28:30 Keke Palmer? Girl, I literally am such a, and I'm telling you, Brown Sugar for many, many, like, the last month was my going-to-sleep movie. I'm one of those people. Like, it's like, that's my, my comfort thing. I need that. Um, so when you asked weekly, you said, I get a lot of calls to be somebody's mama, but I don't necessarily get a lot of calls to be the president. Although in my house, I'm the president. I literally live for this, literally. But I'm, I'm curious, do you feel like Hollywood is still catching up when it comes to, uh, the range of roles women get to play? Or do you think it maybe is a lot on us as the, as the artists or the talent to try and produce them and create them on our own?
29:06 Speaker 01 I think that more behind-the-scenes, uh, power and accessibility that, you know, those stories will be told.
29:13 Keke Palmer? Did you get a chance to see number one on the call sheet?
29:15 Speaker 01 No, I didn't.
29:16 Keke Palmer? I was curious, because it was kind of like what we're talking about here. I was curious what you thought about it because a lot of people were just talking about the discrepancy between, um, the male first on the call sheet and the female first on the call sheet experiences. And obviously, some things is like, you know, you only can know what you can know. But then it does become a thing of like, okay, how do we equalize and make sure that we're getting the same opportunities, especially when we are number one on the call sheet? Um, anyway, I was just curious, but if you haven't seen it. Yeah, it was interesting. It really, really was. So you and Boris just hit 20 years of marriage. What did you guys do to celebrate?
29:48 Speaker 01 The press tour had started for, and just like that, so I wasn't really able to go away to Mexico. I had to go to Paris and all these things.
29:55 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
29:55 Speaker 01 And I was like, baby, let's just, you know, we just got this house. Let's just have like a picnic and we got a yard. We got a backyard. Let's have like, do something romantic. He was like, no. Twenty years. We going somewhere. Next thing I know, we are in the Amanara Resort. Thank you, Amanara Resorts. And, um.
30:17 Keke Palmer? Forrest is such a romantic. What sign is he?
30:20 Speaker 01 He's Pisces.
30:21 Keke Palmer? Pisces. My son's a Pisces. This is just so sweet. I mean, you guys, when I was getting ready for this interview, I'm like, you guys had your own talk show before.
30:29 Speaker 01 And you were on our talk show.
30:30 Keke Palmer? Yes, I remember.
30:32 Speaker 01 Yes, we need to find that footage.
30:33 Keke Palmer? We need to find that footage. Because, I mean, what do you think and feel about that? Just how people love you guys as individuals?
30:40 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:41 Keke Palmer? But then people loving you guys as together. I feel like that's such a like, again, it's so rare to have that kind of partner in life and in career.
30:50 Speaker 01 I don't know. I, it's, it just worked out.
30:52 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
30:53 Speaker 01 I don't know how. I don't have a special formula. People joke, they say you should write a book. And I'm like, no, I shouldn't. Like, it is regular stuff going on in my house.
31:03 Keke Palmer? That's right.
31:04 Speaker 01 Running late, where's my thing?
31:06 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
31:07 Speaker 01 You were supposed to take this to the dry clean for me, baby. Are you hungry? Like, all, all of it is happening.
31:14 Keke Palmer? Yeah. Do you think it's just, because I talk to this about my parents, well, my parents a lot too. Where, is it just choosing? Like, I just choose you. You know, I think we always talk about love being an action and being a verb. It's something that you choose to do. Would you say that's like a, a key ingredient to the longevity you guys have?
31:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think we were, we chose each other very deliberately. But I think there was an instinct there where you're like, mm. Because, you know, people sometimes don't do this, like, could I leave my children with this man?
31:46 Keke Palmer? Yes.
31:47 Speaker 01 People marry men and have children with them, like, no, daddy's not watching you. You know what I mean? Like, I have a very good father. So I had a very sharp sense of, mm, okay. When it comes down to it, if the [BLEEP] hits the fan, you know.
32:04 Keke Palmer? Are you gonna ride?
32:04 Speaker 01 Yeah, are you gonna ride?
32:06 Keke Palmer? Mm-hmm.
32:07 Speaker 01 Or rise to the occasion?
32:09 Keke Palmer? I know that's right.
32:10 Speaker 01 And I, and I thought he would. And he has.
32:14 Keke Palmer? I mean, I literally live for you. I've told you, I've felt like your surrogate daughter for so many years. You guys have often been open too about going to therapy and stuff like that. Is that something that you think is good, you know, for couples? A lot of people are still waking up to that, to comfortability around that. I've been a avid therapy goer since I was like 17, but it's still something we sometimes don't want to talk about, or we think something has to be wrong to go.
32:37 Speaker 01 Right.
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33:39 Speaker 01 I would say if you're bickering a lot and cussing each other out or fussing and fighting, there's something going on with each of you individually. And that might be a, yes, start with couples therapy, just to have kind of a moderator. But then you have to be like, okay, why is this person making me so mad? Or why am I so irritable? Or why are we in this rut? And it just unpeels the layers, you know, and recalibrates the situation of which direction you want to go in.
34:07 Keke Palmer? Yeah. Speaking again of just Boris and you guys' whole romantic relationship, you got married in Germany with a carriage, a letterhosen, and a 30-foot dessert table? I mean, this is like storybook energy. What do you remember about this day, girl? This is crazy.
34:24 Speaker 01 First of all, Boris is from where the Smurfs are from. Okay, like, full on, do you know what a Smurf is?
34:31 Keke Palmer? Yes, girl, I love the movies.
34:36 Speaker 01 He is little, for the other people in the room, Hansel and Gretel. Okay, like, it looks like when we walked out of the church, the only thing I wanted to do, because it's like a fairy tale, all the trees and everything, that I wanted to be on a horse and carriage with my dad, that's taking me to the church. Now, when I say, it's like, the church is here, the cobblestone road goes right to his grandmother's house that he grew in, that his grandmother lived in, like, in World War II. Like, the house is still standing. But you're walking through the village, and literally someone's like, oh, a wedding, and opens her wooden shutters and throws flowers on me. I think there's a picture in People Magazine of me catching flowers that some stranger threw on us.
35:18 Keke Palmer? That was a flex, you heard it.
35:19 Speaker 01 Yeah.
35:22 Speaker 01 So, um...
35:24 Speaker 01 But the 30-foot table, after the reception, was in his grandmother's house. And his grandmother baked 15 of those cakes.
35:33 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, grandmama with the words.
35:35 Speaker 01 So, for my, my kids had a great-grandma for a while, who they called Oma.
35:39 Keke Palmer? Oh, my, yes. So, I got to spend a little time in Germany. I was in Berlin, working before. I mean, it's such a beautiful place. I really enjoyed it. I don't think I could...
35:47 Speaker 01 He's from the Black Forest.
35:48 Keke Palmer? Now, where's that?
35:50 Speaker 01 Deep in the woods.
35:51 Keke Palmer? Wow.
35:52 Speaker 01 Yes.
35:53 Keke Palmer? So cool.
35:53 Speaker 01 You know, I'm gonna tell his business a little bit. Like, people don't know that Boris chopped the wood when... I'm saying Hansel and Gretel, but it's Hansel and Gretel. He chopped the wood that went in the center wall oven that warmed the house. Like, wintertime, it is very cold. It's cold.
36:14 Keke Palmer? He's had such an interesting life.
36:16 Speaker 01 Yes. So, like, when stuff breaks in my house, he's like, I'll fix it. Like, it's full-on, I... Everyone's like, he's so fine. I'm like, yes, I'm like, he's such a good daddy. I'm like, yes, I'm like, he's a handyman.
36:30 Keke Palmer? Oh, don't know, be breaking. I love that so much.
36:34 Speaker 01 From changing attire to literally fixing like a windowpane.
36:38 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, that is so, that really is handy, because stuff do be breaking. Okay, well, now it's time for my favorite part. So, obviously, I told you brown sugar is my fave. And we always play a game with my guests when they come.
36:50 Speaker 01 I'm so scared.
36:51 Keke Palmer? So, I figured that we do this game about a movie that you're in, and we'll do a little face-off and trivia, right? We'll see who knows the best, the star, or the superfan. I know, so I'm gonna win.
37:04 Keke Palmer? So, let's get into the brown sugar showdown. So, the gag is, we've got Sharon, who is going to be the judge and host of this trivia game. Let the brown sugar showdown begin.
37:19 Speaker 02 Okay, y'all, get ready. It's time for a showdown, and not just any showdown, it's the brown sugar showdown. This is how it's gonna go down. To answer the question, you hit the bell. You get one point for each correct answer. Okay, let's get things kicked off now. So, these are iconic quotes.
37:41 Speaker 01 See, you cheating already.
37:44 Speaker 02 Now.
37:44 Speaker 01 She like this, like I can't see it.
37:47 Speaker 02 So, so, listen now. So, I'm gonna say the first part of these, of the quotes, and then you finish the line, okay?
37:54 Keke Palmer? Okay.
37:55 Speaker 02 For the bonus points, you can tell me who said the line. This is the first one. "I don't want to be second to anything."
38:06 Speaker 01 No, no, no, no, she got it.
38:07 Keke Palmer? Nicole said that.
38:08 Speaker 02 Okay. Yes, but you didn't say the quote. "I don't want to be second to anything."
38:14 Keke Palmer? Especially not that damn Sanaa Lathan.
38:19 Keke Palmer? I'm just playing.
38:20 Speaker 02 This is pretty hard, no.
38:22 Keke Palmer? That's hard, Mom, just tell me. I know, I remember she said it, but it was hard.
38:25 Speaker 02 It says, "I don't want to be second to anything, not your job, not your friends, not Sydney." But you were close.
38:31 Keke Palmer? I was close. I knew it had to involve Sydney.
38:33 Speaker 02 That was close. Okay, next. "You can't help who you love. You're not supposed to."
38:40 Speaker 01 I think it might have been Mo Stef. No, it was Sanaa. Sanaa said it to Boris's character.
38:47 Speaker 02 "You can't help who you love. You're not supposed to."
38:49 Keke Palmer? Isn't that so crazy? That's your husband, wow.
38:54 Speaker 02 Okay.
38:55 Speaker 01 That's so crazy.
38:56 Keke Palmer? That is so crazy. I have to do a quick sidebar. When you guys were on Brown Sugar, were you guys dating on set? Or hanging out? Or just it was like, oh, no, this is my coworker?
39:04 Speaker 01 Again, it was slow.
39:06 Keke Palmer? Yeah, it was still kind of.
39:07 Speaker 01 Because I'm also like, you need to get all that activity out your system. Because, you know what I mean?
39:15 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
39:15 Speaker 01 He was literally chased down the street.
39:18 Keke Palmer? I live for that.
39:19 Speaker 01 You know, and I was not, I was, I can't, you know what I mean?
39:23 Speaker 02 Well, you can't help who you love. You're not supposed to. It just happened.
39:28 Speaker 01 It just happened.
39:29 Keke Palmer? Okay, what's the next one?
39:30 Speaker 02 The next one, okay. I used to love him, but then I let him go.
39:36 Keke Palmer? Uh, Sidney?
39:37 Speaker 02 You, who, I can't tell who's hitting the bell.
39:39 Keke Palmer? Sidney, it was me.
39:41 Speaker 02 It was Sidney. Okay, get ready. I wasn't just marrying a man, I was marrying into a lie.
39:48 Keke Palmer? Damn, she got it.
39:50 Speaker 02 Yes.
39:50 Speaker 01 I don't even know.
39:52 Speaker 02 I was.
39:54 Speaker 01 I just wanted to.
39:54 Speaker 02 Look at here. I wasn't just marrying a man. I was marrying into a lie.
39:59 Speaker 01 That's Reese.
40:00 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:01 Speaker 01 Talking about.
40:02 Keke Palmer? Marrying Tay. He was obviously in love with Sidney.
40:05 Speaker 02 Yes, yes. Okay, let's keep going. Hip-hop has always been that kind of friend to me.
40:11 Speaker 01 Most of.
40:11 Keke Palmer? Yeah. No, no, no, it wasn't.
40:13 Speaker 01 It was Tay.
40:14 Keke Palmer? It's Tay.
40:15 Speaker 02 It was the character.
40:16 Speaker 01 Dre.
40:17 Speaker 02 No. Hip-hop has always been that kind of friend.
40:20 Keke Palmer? No, it was Sidney!
40:21 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:22 Keke Palmer? Yes. She wrote that in her final monologue.
40:26 Speaker 02 Right.
40:26 Keke Palmer? Because hip-hop was their love language.
40:28 Speaker 02 Right. You're looking for something, but it's not me.
40:32 Keke Palmer? Dre. Not to his wife.
40:35 Speaker 02 You're looking for something.
40:36 Keke Palmer? It's Reese.
40:37 Speaker 02 It's Reese.
40:38 Keke Palmer? Okay.
40:39 Speaker 01 I said that to Dre at the end at the pool table.
40:41 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
40:42 Speaker 01 Yeah.
40:43 Keke Palmer? She left like a queen, though.
40:46 Speaker 01 Thank you, baby.
40:47 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean? That Reese character, you played her with such class. I mean, the cheating was crazy, but she still was like, hey.
40:53 Keke Palmer? Everything about her was smooth.
40:55 Speaker 02 Yes, when you think you know everything about hip hop.
40:58 Keke Palmer? It's Sydney.
40:59 Speaker 02 Yeah.
40:59 Keke Palmer? I can't even hear. When you think you know everything about hip hop, until it all falls down. That's when I knew what hip hop meant to me. I love those voiceovers.
41:08 Speaker 02 Okay, this is the last one.
41:09 Keke Palmer? Okay, great.
41:10 Speaker 02 I need to be your wife, not just your lawyer.
41:16 Speaker 03 Reese.
41:16 Speaker 02 Yeah, when did she say that?
41:18 Speaker 03 On the couch at the apartment in the loft.
41:20 Speaker 02 All right.
41:23 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, that was so much fun.
41:25 Speaker 02 So this is when you guys, I think you act out the scenes.
41:27 Keke Palmer? Okay, let's do it.
41:28 Speaker 02 This is your scene that you're supposed to act out?
41:29 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, I'm really excited, actually.
41:31 Speaker 02 This is your scene.
41:32 Speaker 03 Wait.
41:33 Keke Palmer? So who am I, Sydney? Oh, my gosh, this is my scene. That I love.
41:38 Speaker 03 Okay, wait.
41:38 Keke Palmer? You have to let me be you.
41:40 Speaker 02 Let me just tell you what's going on.
41:41 Speaker 03 Oh, I'm the other, I say the words.
41:43 Keke Palmer? You have to be Sydney.
41:43 Speaker 03 Is this the dream?
41:44 Speaker 02 Okay.
41:44 Keke Palmer? No, no, we doing this, the, the, this one. The boxing match.
41:48 Speaker 03 Okay.
41:48 Speaker 02 In this round, you'll perform a key scene, and I'll be judging. This ain't improv class. This is brown sugar.
41:59 Keke Palmer? I love the drama. Okay, I'm, I can be Reese, right? Okay, great.
42:03 Speaker 03 You can be Reese, baby. But we need to, we need to fight. If we're gonna act it out.
42:08 Speaker 02 All right.
42:09 Speaker 03 Okay, let's just do it here.
42:10 Keke Palmer? Okay, so here.
42:11 Speaker 02 Okay, and action.
42:13 Speaker 03 Let's let it out. You have a problem with my friendship with Jeff.
42:18 Keke Palmer? I don't have a problem with it.
42:21 Keke Palmer? I have a problem that you're in love with Dre. And I get it, he lets you in in a way he hasn't let me in yet.
42:26 Speaker 03 I'm not apologizing for my friendship with him.
42:29 Keke Palmer? I'm not asking you to.
42:30 Speaker 03 So now don't be mad at me.
42:31 Keke Palmer? I just didn't expect this. This isn't what I signed up for. That was the scene.
42:38 Speaker 02 Okay.
42:38 Speaker 01 I gotta give it up.
42:39 Speaker 02 I give y'all both one. Fabulous, I was really listening.
42:44 Keke Palmer? I literally, this is one of my favorite performances. I live for you in that scene. You look so glamorous as well as being so truthful.
42:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, and I just want to say thank you for being amazing and being someone that all of my daughters, I have three daughters, that looked up, watched you,
43:01 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
43:02 Speaker 02 imitated you, and just, you're fabulous.
43:05 Speaker 03 Thank you.
43:06 Keke Palmer? You really are.
43:08 Keke Palmer? Thanks for coming on the show.
43:15 Keke Palmer? Okay. Can we talk about how Nicole Ari Parker just gave us a whole masterclass in living your best life? Fashion, family, career, romance. She's doing it all and making it look effortless. From New York moments to marriage milestones, Nicole is showing us that the journey is just as beautiful as the destination. She and Boris, the definition of a Hollywood power couple who still manage to feel like your favorite neighbors. Fun, flirty, and full of love. Nicole dropped a lot of wisdom, but if there's one thing to take with you, channel that energy. Romanticize your life. Wear the dress and don't be afraid to say, "I got this." That's right. You got this. See y'all next week. You know it's your girl.
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