Why Is Disclosure Happening NOW? w/ Jeremy Corbell | Your Mom's House Ep. 862

Christina P is back touring! Check her out in Brea California on June 5th & 6th. Get your tickets at https://christinap.com/pages/tour-dates Gape your 4th eye with Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell's new podcast Mystery Boys and get to the bottom of what's really going on in the world: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-i3EV1v5hLdsQknDbyTEDhROmB-qoGg7 Check out Tom's new bakery, Ciccio Bomba, at the new third location at 1100 South Lamar Blvd in Austin, right across from the Alamo Drafthouse. Become a paid channel member of YMH to get Your Mom’s House episodes one day early and AD-FREE here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYIgiXwJck_Pb5Nj-wIrsqg/join SPONSORS: - Look for American Dew limited-time packaging or find it in stores near you at https://mountaindew.com. - For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://Hims.com/YMH. - Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to https://quince.com/mom Welcome back! Tom is out of town, which means Christina P is flying solo this week. Joining her is UAP journalist, documentary provocateur, and tattooed accidental truth-teller Jeremy Corbell! Christina P and Jeremy Corbell deep dive into UFO disclosure, government secrecy, whistleblowers, mysterious orb sightings, and the theories that keep people up at night. From David Grusch's congressional testimony to the controversial "Immaculate Constellation" program, Jeremy breaks down what insiders claim is happening behind the scenes and why the fight over disclosure is far from over. The conversation goes way beyond nuts-and-bolts UFOs. Christina and Jeremy explore interdimensional theories, the Ariel School encounter, consciousness, spirituality, and the strange connection between human perception and unexplained phenomena. Whether you're a skeptic, believer, or just UFO-curious, this episode will leave you questioning what you think you know. Is the truth really out there? Maybe! Your Mom’s House Ep. 862 https://tomsegura.com/tour https://christinap.com/ https://store.ymhstudios.com https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:03 - David Grusch: The Man Who Told the Truth 00:06:54 - Opening Clip: Who's Ready To Wrestle? 00:08:26 - Back To David Grusch 00:15:22 - Why Is Disclosure Happening NOW? 00:22:25 - Reverse Engineering Alien Technology 00:31:01 - Immaculate Constellation Breakdown 00:40:34 - Interdimensional Beings & UFO Theories 00:50:36 - Prison Planet, John Lear's Soul Theory, & The Ariel School 01:00:37 - Jeremy's First Orb Encounter 01:11:54 - Why Consciousness Is the Key to Seeing Them 01:20:58 - Christina's Cancer, Orbs & Spiritual Awakening 01:36:19 - They're Coming 01:44:40 - We're All Already Awake 01:56:07 - Sleeping Dog, 46 Files & a Warning to the Government 02:02:26 - Closing Song - "Ding Ding" by Robert Burgess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Welcome, welcome to Your Mom's House.

• 0:13Speaker 00

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• 0:41Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, hi, welcome to Your Mom's House. It's me Christina P. Tom is out of town and I have taken over and officially made this show weird as fuck. But first, I want to plug Brea, June 5th and 6th. I'm gonna be there doing shows, uh, by the time this airs, yeah, this'll be there. Okay, you guys, I'm so fucking stoked to have this person on. We have so many mutual friends and I've been dying to meet him. Please welcome to Your Mom's House Jeremy Corbell.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  What up Christina?

• 1:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh my god.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  I wanted to meet you too, you know? We do have mutual friends, but do not judge each other by the friends we have. That could go sideways.

• 1:20Christina Pazsitzky?

  Your documentary Sleeping Dog is out now.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  And listen, I've been following you for years.

• 1:28Speaker 02

  I've seen you.

• 1:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, okay. But I got into you when David Grusch testified. That was the first time I was like, wait, what? This is in Congress? This guy is talking about what? And then I went down the rabbit hole, straight to you. So, tell us about this documentary and why it's so important.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  John Lear said in the documentary...

• 1:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  You've fallen down the rabbit hole and there's no hope.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  And that's all that's ringing in my head right now when you said you fell down the rabbit hole.

• 1:59Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:59Speaker 02

  There's no hope. There's fucking hope.

• 2:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  Um, I don't remember the question you asked me, but I want to say something before we start.

• 2:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  Never in my life has somebody given me a case of tall boy.

• 2:12Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  Coors Banquet's Christina.

• 2:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's what we do here.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  The best.

• 2:17Christina Pazsitzky?

  I am the best.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  This right now.

• 2:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Let's get ripped dude. I'm gonna smoke six.

• 2:20Speaker 02

  Oh shit.

• 2:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  We're gonna drink your Coors. We're gonna talk about aliens.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Turn that phone upside down.

• 2:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Let me ask you some questions then before we get into the documentary. You guys have to watch this.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  The document. Oh yeah.

• 2:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  You've got to watch Sleeping Dog if you're remotely interested in this U A P, which I fucking hate UFOs. Whatever is going on in the sky. As you guys know, last time I talked about how I see orbs. And I think this stuff is very fucking real. But first things first, is David Grusch still alive?

• 2:48Speaker 02

  Fuck. Yes. Yes. I texted with him this morning. Oh, that's so sad.

• 2:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  I love him so much.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  No, he should be protected. He is an American hero. He will go down in the history books. As a guy that told the truth, broke from the fold.

• 3:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  And, and did something, what he said is true. And now everybody has to catch up. Fucking David Grusch.

• 3:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  David Grusch is a real American hero. And for those of you who are a little skeptical, David Grusch, wasn't he a pilot? He worked in the government. These are, these are pilots coming forward. Go ahead.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  He, he, he participated in a remote piloting thing of some really special craft, but no, he is a full blown. Um, he, he did serve in the air force. He did go to Iraq. Um, but his main job is intelligence. It's always been intelligence. He is a very interesting minded individual. In that he's, I don't know the right word, but uh, his mind can recall, it's like a form of autism.

• 3:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  But it's, there's different forms. And I looked up his form and it can be very powerful. So basically he is an intelligence officer. He has a long career, worked for Space Force. I mean, this guy is legit. Our country trusted him with some of our greatest secrets and then tasked him. His specific job, how he fell down the rabbit hole like you. Other than like in Star Trek when he was a kid, you know, because that's a nerdy thing to do. What he did, he was given the task to go look at the black budgets, the black budget programs or more that the saps, which are like.

• 4:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  I hate these acronyms. A-Tip, Arrow, Saps.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  So this is super easy.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  I was gonna make a joke about the name of your show and that I couldn't come up with a good acronym. So he was tasked with looking into who's hiding and who has knowledge of non-human intelligence, UAP or UFO, craft, parts, biologics, bodies. That was literally his official job. And he is so fastidious and he's so intelligent as much. He went after it. He did over 40 interviews that were then put over into ICIG, which is just Intelligence Community Inspector General. It was like a report saying, holy shit, Houston, we have a problem.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  They've been hiding the funds and this, these property, these assets.

• 5:26Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  It is, and it's, it's bigger than that. So that was, that's David Grusch. That was his job and he did his job and he did it so well that they, that he became a threat. He became a threat.

• 5:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  Who tasks David Crush with that initial job?

• 5:43Speaker 02

  His name is Jay Stratton. And Jay Stratton, I think he's like, there's a book coming out about him. You've seen him in like, oh, the first time you ever saw him was on my show Weaponized. We, George and I do a lot of interviews that we don't publish. But early on, we used a clip. It was at, in Rocket City, we went to go meet with him. And we got him talking about it on camera. He ran what's called the UAP TF, which is the UAP, which just means unidentified anomalous phenomenon, which is actually a better name than UFO. Just UFO is way fucking cooler. But I'll tell you why it's a better name. And then TF is Task Force. So Jay Stratton ran the UAP TF,

• 6:27Speaker 02

  the UAP Task Force. And he tasked David Grusch, this is how I understand it. I believe it to be accurate, with digging in, finding out where the craft were, where the assets were, who's hiding it, where the money goes, who we can interview, who has direct exposure, who worked on the craft. Fucking David Grusch was like, errr, and he went for it.

• 6:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  So rad.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Then he realized what happened, motherfucker, leaned over to George Knapp at a bar and said, I'm coming forward and I don't know how this is done. It's legal.

• 6:55Christina Pazsitzky?

  Stop.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have it on film.

• 6:57Christina Pazsitzky?

  Stop.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  I was just filming George at a bar in Rocket City because I was bored. And leans this guy and I'm protective of George. And then I realized, oh, that's the guy I'm supposed to meet. That's the, I never physically met him before. And I said, let's suss this fucker out. Because it took about a year.

• 7:16Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, for real?

• 7:17Speaker 02

  Oh dude, George and I don't fuck around.

• 7:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, just so you people know that Jeremy Corbell is a journalist. You know what? Shit, I was so excited to see you. I didn't even do our intro. I'm sorry, you guys. Hold on, before we go any further, you gotta watch this clip. I think this will really set us up for something nice. A nice discussion.

• 7:34Speaker 02

  Uh oh.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  Who's ready to wrestle? I am. I am, I'm, I'm ready to wrestle.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  Pajitski?

• 8:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 8:09Speaker 02

  Good night. It's super cool.

• 8:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  Pajitski.

• 8:11Speaker 02

  Bratislava.

• 8:12Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh.

• 8:13Speaker 02

  Grandfather.

• 8:13Christina Pazsitzky?

  Fuck.

• 8:16Christina Pazsitzky?

  Now, now, now. This theme song's so long.

• 8:24Speaker 02

  You have like dreams where this just keeps playing before you have to get up for a show?

• 8:30Speaker 02

  These kids made me a new theme song, by the way. They just gave it to me yesterday. I'll play it in the microphone at the end for you. It's hilarious.

• 8:37Christina Pazsitzky?

  All right. Here we go. We're ready to wrestle. That's, that's our friend there. He runs a 24 hour gym.

• 8:45Speaker 02

  That's your buddy?

• 8:46Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, he's just, I'm obsessed with it.

• 8:48Speaker 02

  He's ready to wrestle.

• 8:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  He's ready to wrestle aliens. He's gonna get abducted by grays and anally probe. Okay, so, so back to, can you bring up a picture of David Grusch? If you guys have like three hours to spend.

• 9:01Speaker 02

  That's what we're about to do.

• 9:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  Go back and watch this congressional hearing.

• 9:06Speaker 02

  Look how they try to put these funny facial expressions on him. That's part of this process of diminishing, you know, he is, look at that one with the white shirt where he's looking straight. That's nice. They've got some, Time Magazine did one of him and yet they tried to make him have a funny expression. That one on the far left is cool.

• 9:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah. And then also, just so you know, on either side of David Grusch are like decorated military people, right? These are not-

• 9:34Speaker 02

  Those are my friends. I got them all done.

• 9:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, so-

• 9:36Speaker 02

  I got Commander David Fravor on Grusch's left, if I recall. On his right is Ryan Graves, both pilots. Specifically, the guy on the far, or the guy on David's left is Commander David Fravor. He is Top Gun. He is, he was the head of the Black, you know all this?

• 9:57Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, yeah, I'm a fucking dork. I love this stuff. No, but for the audience, say it, say it out loud, because people don't know these people.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  Commander David Fravor chased a UFO for the United States military. He was Top Gun motherfucker, head of the Black Aces, VFA 41. So I actually got to him many, many, many years before the world ever knew about him. And I was coached, like, you gotta talk pilot. I'm like, okay, okay. I psyched myself up. I hide in my closet so it sounds good. And I go, Hey, my name is Jeremy Corbella and just don't hang up. I, I, I know about what happened in 2004 and I'm a journalist, but I'm not going to say anything. I just want to ask you some questions. How the fuck you get my number? Like, it started like that. And I told him, it was your buddy with the loose lips who gave you your number.

• 10:47Speaker 02

  So I knew everything about the case. And everybody thinks that case was broke in the New York Times.

• 10:53Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, that's right. The article came out during the pandemic, right?

• 10:56Speaker 02

  Right, 2017, the world changed.

• 10:58Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  You know, great article, opened up this whole thing about UAP. However, some of it was inaccurate, like completely inaccurate. And we can get into that. But the premise is actually perfect because it's true. But David and I, Commander Fravor, says, don't ever call him that. I always call him that. We're really good friends now, right? The thing is, why we're really good friends are part of the premise is I never burned him. I told him, this story is huge. The world's going to hear about it one day. They won't hear about it from me. But if I were you, you know, I would just know that the world's going to hear about this and your life is going to change. You're going to be known from your entire fight career. He, nine 11, he flew over LA to protect it.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  He did crazy shit on missions. But what you're going to be known for is that five minutes that you chased UFO. And he was, didn't believe me. I said, look, I'm not going to leak it. So why we're such good friends is because, well, we both like having a beer. No, but why we're good friends is because I didn't leak his story. Part of telling secrets is keeping them. So when his name went public, I literally called him. I said, it happened. He goes, what happened? And I go, your name just got put out there, not by me. I told you it would happen.

• 12:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  And he was like so angry because it's not that he was hiding from it. It's just that nobody wants that public attention. You don't know what it's going to mean. So for your audience, Commander David Fravor, he saw what's called the Tic Tac.

• 12:31Christina Pazsitzky?

  The Tic Tac, bring up the Tic Tac video. It's on Wikipedia, by the way, which is fucking crazy. So during the pandemic, there were like, what, three or four videos leaked from the Pentagon that showed like the Tic Tac, the Go Fast. I forget what's the other one.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Gimbal.

• 12:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  The Gimbal. And I remember it was so quietly just put there. In the middle of a pandemic and nobody gave a shit. People were like, who gives a fuck? Aliens can't pay my bills. We're in the middle of a pandemic. Right. And I'm like, yeah, I get that. But let's take a look. Your mother is doing stand up in Brea, California, June 5th and 6th, Chicago, Illinois, September 18th and 19th. Get your tickets at christinapete.com.

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• 13:43Tom Segura?

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• 16:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  Let me tell you something. If you go back and you listen to George and me prior to that, the two times before on Coast to Coast AM, we broke the Tic Tac Yofer story without, I did it in a way that Fravor, it was so, we're fishing for more people, which I got from that incident. And I asked Fravor if that's okay, because no one listens, late night show. But if you go back and listen, we broke it. And just so happened somehow, that video got sent to me hours before I went on. And because it was like mythological for a while, everybody was like, there's this video being passed around. I don't know who sent it to me, but it was somebody in the know that I was going to go on a show.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  So I broke that story with George Knapp, and I'll say twice before the New York Times article, and I'm not bragging, I'm just confessing, and here's why. People need to really understand, people didn't want this out. Everything was provoked. It was every inch and millimeter we've made from the government, every video that George and I've ever put out, it's military filmed, it's a risk to do it to sources. And it was provoked. This is not the government giving you shit.

• 17:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  So this is what's interesting, Jeremy Corbell, because I've been asking this question since I've watched David Grusch on this congressional hearing with you in the background, by the way. Is that why now? Why disclosure now? I was like, why would the government? What interest do they have in letting the people know now? Yeah, all this stuff is real. Aliens are real. Why? Why now? But you're telling me it was provoked. So it sounds like they're either getting ahead of a narrative.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Shaping it. Their exact words in a CIA document that I saw, "Shape the emerging UAP narrative." That is so interesting. So when they got on their heels, after, you know, the 2004 Tic Tac incident came out and the Gimbal video came out, the GoFundMe and Tic Tac, they started a campaign of cyber warfare to discriminate against the people that have served the country. There was coordinated efforts to diminish their presence, like they did with David Grusch with his PTSD. First question I asked.

• 18:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, I remember that. Like, like he doesn't, David Grusch, come on. They're trying to discredit him by saying he has like mental illness or something like, the guy's like a straight arrow. Come on.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  He's a straight arrow.

• 18:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  He's a fucking family guy. He's normal.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  He had a PTSD, right? And that's what they went after. But the guy that, that, that put that out, he admitted the intelligence agencies leaked it to him. Why are intelligence agencies leaking a medical issue about a PTSD about? Why? Because you know why. So why do they want it out now? I want to answer your question directly. So I'm not accused of not.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  There may be

• 18:48Speaker 02

  great people on the inside that feel that it's far past time to admit the fundamental aspects of what they know. They don't know everything about the UAP presence and contact with human beings that has been going on since beginning of recorded human history at least.

• 19:12Speaker 02

  I know that to be true, that there are good people in government that think the world should know.

• 19:17Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  I know 50% of people though in government that will fight vehemently, if that's the right word.

• 19:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  To never let you know.

• 19:25Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, so, so let's talk about this just from a philosophical hu- human thing. What is the big whoop if we find out that aliens are real?

• 19:36Speaker 02

  What do you?

• 19:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Okay, so I usually interview people when I'm being interviewed, let me just ask you real quick. What do you think the big whoop would be?

• 19:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'll tell you if you really wanna know.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  I do, I do. I wanna know what you think.

• 19:48Christina Pazsitzky?

  How much time you got, Jeremy?

• 19:49Speaker 02

  I'm here all day, let's fuck and go.

• 19:50Christina Pazsitzky?

  Let's get fucking crazy.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's go.

• 19:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'll tell you why, because I think, uh, you know, David Grusch put it out there, I did not the first to say this, that we have, we have materials that have been, whatever, taken from crash sites, we have non-human biologics. Uh, Bob Lazar has said as much, that he worked at Area 51 back in the eighties. He mentioned element 115, which surprise, surprise, is now actually on the periodic table of elements.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Which, he always knew that was gonna happen, by the way, but go on.

• 20:22Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, I think that we've reversed engineered some stuff and we wanna keep it a secret. And, and maybe that's the impetus to like, these are war, these are gonna be used as war weapons or are being used as war weapons? And that threatens security somehow, is that, is that somewhat?

• 20:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, that is like a really great way to explain it in the basics, I'm gonna add to it a little bit, right? Here we go. You like that bitch?

• 20:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  This is why I can't.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Let's fucking light this fuse.

• 20:48Christina Pazsitzky?

  I've been talking to you for years.

• 20:49Speaker 02

  Let's light this fuse.

• 20:51Christina Pazsitzky?

  Let's get fucking weird, man, okay?

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Oh, it's all so weird that you don't even have to try to make it weird.

• 20:56Christina Pazsitzky?

  I have even further, okay, but go ahead.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  Oh no, I have up to you. You're the boss.

• 21:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  And also.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Your mom's house.

• 21:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  Sure bitch, okay, so I don't need to call you bitch.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  Oh, I'll call you bitch back, we're all good bitch, let's go.

• 21:07Christina Pazsitzky?

  And in tandem to this reverse engineering stuff.

• 21:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  Are the existence of orbs, are the existence of quote, good beings or extraterrestrial beings that do want to push humanity and help us along. There's that element too.

• 21:21Speaker 02

  So you just went from a really like concrete thing to what my mom would say. She'd be all, hey Christina. You'd be like, what? And she'd be like, your dick's in the peanut butter. And you'd be like, what do you mean? She goes, you're fucking nuts. So, so she's like, so you went, you went from, but, but there is something to it, but you went from there.

• 21:38Christina Pazsitzky?

  But then you have the Bledsoe's. Well, let's, hold on. Let's talk to the Bledsoe family who's been documenting these orbs for 20 years. And they claim to have spiritual experience of them. There's a lot of people that see this shit and have documented it. So you've got that. And then you've got the war mongering.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  And then you also get, you know, people that, um, they see something for real. And then every fucking plane is an orb or a UFO. And you know, you have to protect your own mind against that because it's so exciting to know that we're living in a reality that is far deeper. And that something else penetrates into our environment that we are unable to experience on a, on an average day. So it becomes exciting. And when that becomes, you have to, you have to guard yourself.

• 22:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes. You'll get psychosis. That's what the people are like, I see the number 444. I see angels. I'm like, yeah.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  Keep your mind open, but don't let the marbles spill out because we only got limited marbles.

• 22:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of course, babes. Okay. So tell me the other part. What am I missing?

• 22:33Speaker 02

  Okay. So, okay, let's reverse the tape in my mind.

• 22:37Christina Pazsitzky?

  Bob Lazar.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  About why it's secret. That was the thing. Why is the government, uh, keeping it? Why did they kept it secret? It's kind of your question, right?

• 22:46Christina Pazsitzky?

  What, what's the big whoop?

• 22:47Speaker 02

  I'll, I'll tell you exactly from an informed point of view. Like this is not speculation. Um, I have met with, uh, under Department of Justice, I have met with weapons of mass destruction specialists that focus on the UAP issue. Now, why would UFOs be classified higher than weapons of mass destruction? It makes no sense. So your first thought, or my first thought was, and I talked with Commander Fravor about this. Well, if you got a Tic Tac technology, whoever gets that technology first, they win because you could literally drop. Off a nuke and drop down from eighty thousand feet to ground level, less than a second and go back up, drop a nuke. Nobody knows who did it. That's different than launching and then they're going.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  So that's the first thought I had is why keep this secret is because we want strategic advantage for strategic surprise. As a technologically advanced nation, we want to be dominant. Yeah, go America.

• 23:43Christina Pazsitzky?

  And that's reversed engineered stuff.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  No. So that is the premise of the secrecy. It's a Cold War mentality. Once we realized, oh, fuck. These technologies, they could do shit for us and they could do shit for other countries and Russia and China also have craft that have been gifted or landed or whatever you want to say or crashed. So what America did is use the the architecture of the nuclear program to hide the reverse engineering and compartmentalize the programs to, and I quote, exploit for derivative technologies.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Because you can't build the UFO. You don't have zero gravity environment where you can make the metamaterials, right?

• 24:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  Right.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  But what you can do is if you like, figure out a tiny little part of it, that could create a huge weaponization capability. So you understand it's not so much like religion would crumble. It's not so much like they've kept this secret so long, they're keeping the secret that they kept the secret.

• 24:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's an infinite regret. I understand what you're saying. So, so in order for them to come out and go, yeah, this all exists, they'd have to call themselves liars. They'd have to admit to

• 25:00Speaker 02

  They'd have to admit to crimes. They'd have to admit to murder.

• 25:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  They'd have to admit to harming people, to silencing them, to trapping them. MKUltra showed us that in fact, in fact, our CIA was operating against Americans.

• 25:19Speaker 02

  So we're like, oh, we're past that now. No, we fucking aren't.

• 25:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  Hold on, I just want to say, I'm a comedian and this show is just for entertainment purposes only. And I'm not credible and if I disappear, you guys know what's gonna just happen.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  The best thing we could say is like, so I say, I'm a bearded, tattooed, fucking caveman.

• 25:39Christina Pazsitzky?

  We're just idiots, guys.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  With a good mentor, but I am a journalist.

• 25:43Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, we're dipshits, okay?

• 25:45Speaker 02

  Well, yes, we are complete, I am a complete dipshit, unqualified.

• 25:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'm totally unqualified.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  But my shield is that I'm a journalist because I go under First Amendment, freedom of speech.

• 25:55Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 25:55Speaker 02

  Right to report.

• 25:56Christina Pazsitzky?

  Just putting it out there, just comedian and journalist chatting, okay?

• 26:00Speaker 02

  No, no, comedian and idiot journalist.

• 26:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  Professional fool, professional idiot.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Professional figuring it out.

• 26:05Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, okay.

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• 28:56Christina Pazsitzky?

  So go ahead. So the CIA is actively, or were actively.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  I mean, that's historical fact.

• 29:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  We know, everyone fucking.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  About three days ago, a CIA employee testified in front of Congress saying, as a whistleblower, it's about three days ago, it's James Erdman III. And he says, oh, by the way, I'm a CIA employee. The CIA has been illegally spying on the UAP whistleblowers that were brought in. And by the way, I brought them in. I told them they're probably spying on us, but I brought them in to, to what was called the DIG, the Director's Initiative under Tulsi Gabbard, under ODNI. Now Tulsi, I think, has no idea that she was lied to in that report, but I will line by line explain, because I documented everything as a journalist, the lies. They were going after whistleblowers, trying to get them for treason, trying to go against

• 29:48Speaker 02

  their, like, saying they're racist, they're trying to do all this shit to get me and George to go around being like, fuck these guys, fuck David Grusch, oh, liars. But we found out on the news just three days ago, this is not MKUltra in the 60s anymore, the CIA was spying on whistleblowers in the UAP field, everybody I brought in to the DIG, they were spying on their phones and computers and listening in. And I brought them in because they told me that they would be absolutely protected under whistleblower law. It is the most illegal thing, other than the thing I'm about to tell you. They were running an operation out of ODNI without Tulsi knowing, and I want her to know

• 30:30Speaker 02

  this, so she will find out, against Congress. Congress is supposed to be watching all this? Yeah. But if, if, if ODNI, if- What's ODNI? Office of the Director of National Intelligence, so Tulsi is the Director of National Intelligence. Yes, yes. So the Office of the Director of National Intelligence had a program called The DIG, and, and shout out to the employees at The DIG, who really were great people, that, like, there are people in the, in that DIG, in that government investigation, who are good-hearted and ready to rock and wanted to get to the corruption. But there's factions, like, small groups that are tasked to infiltrate, get into these government operations.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  They called me first, me and George first, and, because they don't know who to call, or they said they didn't. My lawyer's like, they know who to call, they know where the saucers are. But like- My point to you is that this is not ancient history. This is three days ago. The CIA is spying on its own.

• 31:31Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, what do you, what do you think this is? This thing fucking listens to you.

• 31:34Speaker 02

  Well, that's why I always tell people what I want them to know. I am naked and ready to have a beer.

• 31:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  I read, hold on, hold on, I gotta pee. I'm so excited and I drank too much coffee and water. Let me take a piss break.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, take a piss break. No, I'm gonna drink a beer break.

• 31:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  So allegedly the CIA is, uh, doing things that are stuff not good.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  That allegedly is reported in Congress.

• 31:57Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  By a CIA agent.

• 31:59Christina Pazsitzky?

  Great. So that's part of the story, which is fucking insane. But I also want to play a clip from your podcast Weaponized that you do with George Knapp. This fucking three parter I watched with Matthew Brown, The Immaculate Constellation, the, uh, the author of a document called The Immaculate Constellation. I was so blown away by, A, this man's courage and how fucking nervous he looked.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:28Christina Pazsitzky?

  If you watch this guy's face, there's no way he's lying. He is shitting his pants the entire fucking time he's talking to you. So let's, let's set up what that was. What is the Immaculate Constellation and who is Matthew Brown?

• 32:42Speaker 02

  Right. So people get a, a little confused and it is a.

• 32:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  Is it me?

• 32:46Speaker 02

  No, no. And it's a large story. Um, but he is the author where it was like a report that he, I, I get the words confused. He did a report, cause I told him, we're, we're talking about what do you do? He created this report that showed what he was exposed to. But Immaculate Constellation was the name of a program where there was an intelligence product on a server. And he caught it. He's like, this isn't supposed to be here. I wasn't supposed to see this. This is highly classified. And he like tells his superiors and they're like, okay. And then it's deleted and he's like, am I in trouble? So he is like a do-gooder and he is so smart though.

• 33:26Speaker 02

  And so he essentially tried to do everything right within government as a patriot. But when he saw the crimes that were committed, stuff that he can't even talk about yet to this day. It's not Dopser cleared, which means cleared by the government. You gotta ask them, but he has testified behind closed doors. I snuck him in as camera crew into Congress and they trust me. I said, I got one guy in here. We had to get in. Everybody else is going to leave. Is that okay with you? But it's just the three of us, like three congressional and senatorial people. Okay. Each one said, okay. First contact, Matthew Brown. I did this way before the story became known. Right? This was before the story became known. People don't know that.

• 34:11Speaker 02

  And that kid is a fucking patriot.

• 34:13Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  He is a personal hero and he is vulnerable. But the more he puts his face out there, the less vulnerable he is. But what he did was he saw a document that was about UFOs, videos, photos, all this shit. And he read it and his mind was fucking blown. And then he tried to report that this document was like, guys, it's an intel link. Like anybody can share it within this intelligence circuit. This is higher classification. It's not supposed to be there.

• 34:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, what's it doing there?

• 34:47Speaker 02

  So somebody, people make mistakes, man. It's like.

• 34:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  Or is it disinformation?

• 34:51Speaker 02

  No, and we know it's not. And there's a reason why, but that's a really deep conversation. But Macula Constellation is a program. It has gone by different names. And essentially what it does is before the average intelligence community can see footage from like actionable events in flight, it uses an AI to take out all the UAP UFOs. Instead of like NASA airbrushing shit out, which they got caught doing, right? This was a high level artificial intelligence.

• 35:26Speaker 02

  And Immaculate Constellation is a part of a constellation of UAP programs. And this was a defensive program to make sure the intelligence community, the average intel agent at CIA, FBI, or DOD, or DOE, or all, any of them, don't see the UAPs. That's what it was. And he stumbled across it. He's like, fuck, this ain't right. Somebody's siloing this information. That's who Matthew Brown is. Matthew Brown is a patriot. He's a hero of mine, like Dylan Borland is, and David Grusch is, and man, that's Matthew Brown.

• 35:58Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, let me play this clip. This is literally, and I think I've watched this man talk, like I said, a few times. But the very end of the third episode is, like, I'm getting chills just now because, watch this guy talk, and you fucking tell me if he's lying.

• 36:17Speaker 02

  Look, man, if, if, if you were to die tomorrow because of whatever reason, what do you want people to know right now? Like, what do you want people to know if you're just, like, fucking on?

• 36:28Christina Pazsitzky?

  Look at his face. God.

• 36:35Tom Segura?

  You are not free. And this reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. And God is real.

• 36:48Christina Pazsitzky?

  Boo. Unpack that. Yeah. Right?

• 36:55Christina Pazsitzky?

  I know.

• 36:58Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's, it's, and you guys, you have to watch the whole thing, because it's so... There's so much that I want him to be able to say. Do you need a minute, buddy? Yeah, yeah, go, take a minute.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 37:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, let's, what the heck is this guy saying? There's so much there. God is real, the reality that we live in, and he goes on to say is highly curated. The science that we know is not the science that exists. Like, so many things.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. He didn't say all that. I think he said three things. You know, you're not free.

• 37:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  Not in that clip.

• 37:30Speaker 02

  But let's look at what he said.

• 37:31Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  You're not free.

• 37:33Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  So whatever he was exposed to, he interprets as you not being free.

• 37:40Speaker 02

  Now, we all react to information in different ways, but I would agree with him. We're not free. If we were free, then we would have the information that is being hidden from us. Then we'd have freedom of speech and debate. Then we'd have freedom of thought. So if you don't have freedom of thought, because someone's holding information from you, you ain't free. And you don't even know you're a prisoner. I think that's what he meant. He should speak for himself.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  Second thing he said.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  I don't fucking remember what he said.

• 38:09Christina Pazsitzky?

  God is real.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  No, that's the last thing. We get to that.

• 38:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  Let's watch it again. Let's, let's see it, because it's, this gave me the chill, sorry. I wish I could.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  If you were to die tomorrow because of whatever reason, what do you want people to know? Right now, like, what do you want people to know if you're just like fucking on?

• 38:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  You are not free. Okay. And this reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. Yeah.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  So, that is true. People don't have all the information. But they've been holding a big fucking truth away from the American public and, and the global public. Although the global public, a lot of people already know, because they've experienced it themselves. That's why UFO thing is like, in movies, it's because art imitates life. So people have experienced that. Now, the last thing that you brought up, and he says, um, God is real. That was a very emotional moment, and I'll tell you what was happening at that second. I think, at this time, I can tell you what was happening at this second, but that's his just personal faith. I, you know, I'm not a religious person. So, for him, he's saying, God is real, whatever that means to him.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  So you have to separate those three sentences. The first two are factual things that I know to be true. The third thing, God is real. Well, that's, that comes down to your own personal thing. You know, I have my own personal thing when it comes to religion or spirituality, whatever the fuck people call it. You know, source, you know, how you were fucking created. So I just want to separate for him. To him, that's important. To him, he's like, that was like a message of, of hope. Like, so no matter what fuckery we get, he's saying, and you should ask him, not me, but saying, God is real. So it was a very powerful three-part statement.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  It's not like he read about God and classified documents, right? But the other two things he knows for a fact, and so do I. You are not free unless you have the information, right? You're not free if you don't have all the information. That's the way I interpret it, and I agree with that. And the second thing he said is so clear and true. And you are not allowed to know the nature of reality. And that is fucked. And that comes from both a scientific standpoint. There are certain equations that are classified? What the fuck? That is fact. What the fuck?

• 40:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  Certain equations that are classified?

• 40:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, like our physics. There is a small set of physics, from how I understand it, that is so dangerous that it is classified. Give you an example that you know of, how to create an atomic bomb. But that's easy. You know, people understand that now. I mean, the average person doesn't, thank God. But they know nuclear physics exists, right? But there are equations, from what I know, and I'm not like smart, I don't know what they mean. But like, there are equations that are classified. Why? So the nature of reality itself, something about the nature of itself is being held back from human beings. Now, I understand, you don't put out equations for like,

• 41:31Speaker 02

  a power source, because that could be weaponized. So that should stay classified in America. But the fundamental truth, that we are not alone, that there is a non-human intelligence that has been engaging humanity since the dawn of time, or quarter of human history. Who has the right to not, to hide that from you? And they have been hiding it from you, straight up. So now, is the levy breaking? You know? Have we kicked him in the balls and made him fall onto the ground and vomit up the truth? Let's fucking find out. I'm ready to go.

• 42:07Christina Pazsitzky?

  Fuck around and find out, sleeping dog.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, sleeping dog bite me, so what? I've taken many bites. Life is full of pain. Kick that fucking sleeping dog. I did.

• 42:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, let me tell you what's fascinating, because I do think David Grusch...

• 42:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  Didn't allude to it, said it right out in the congressional hearing that I've watched a few times, he said, and I fucking had to like read about it, learn about it, they're they're interdimensional beings. We inhabit an interdimensional world. Like there's basically another dimension that exists alongside us right here that we just cannot perceive because of our meat, our meat containers, right? Am I paraphrasing Grusch properly? Because he said interdimensional.

• 42:53Speaker 02

  Well, I, I, I think that, I, I don't know his exact words in Congress that day, but there was a silence moment that I'll tell you about where everybody just fucking stopped. You know, I got him, to get him to testify took a long time, not, not, he wanted to. There was so much resistance to getting him up there because he's credible, and so is Commander Fravor, and so is Ryan Graves. I've worked so hard each time to get those people up there, just so you can hear them put their hand to God, and put their hand to the American public, under oath. Because otherwise, just people talking, right?

• 43:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 43:30Speaker 02

  So I fought for that with Rep. Luna, with the, originally with Representative Burchett, who's my homie, balls like church bells. And then Rep. Burleson is now the champion, all three of them, and a ton of people that don't want to be known for this are fighting behind the scenes. So he did say the word interdimensional, I'm sure, but he put it in a caveat, like, why he popularized NHI, non-human intelligence, instead of alien, is because it's more complicated in the assessment of the government than just like an alien from another planet. So one of those options is what we call interdimensional,

• 44:12Speaker 02

  right? Now, I can give you the four or five top theories on, from government, like- What these beings and pilots and intelligences are, because it may be much stranger.

• 44:28Christina Pazsitzky?

  Great, let's hear it, because non-human biologics is another one that he kept saying.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  So David Grusch, non-human intelligence, so words are weapons, right? So if you say alien, okay, that's a very limited scope. You're talking about a being from another planet. But if you say a non-human intelligence, you could be-

• 44:43Christina Pazsitzky?

  He said non-human biologics.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  We'll get to biologics, but I want to deal with the first thing he said about interdimensional. Okay, so non-human intelligence is the idea that if it's not human and it's hyper-intelligent or just intelligent, right, then that's a non-human intelligence. We're talking about people, though, that make craft that can outperform anything we have in our arsenals, so what the fuck? So when he said interdimensional, and you should ask him directly, he is conveying what a lot of us have talked about for a long time. We don't know the origins, the ultimate origins of these craft. Now, they do appear to be designed to travel amongst the stars. So like, I always make the joke, why would you make a Ferrari if you didn't want to fucking go fast, right?

• 45:29Speaker 02

  Why would you make something that could travel amongst stars if you didn't? So that leads me personally to think at least part of this UFO phenomenon is interstellar, right? Going to other star systems or maybe galaxies, because there's no limit on how these things work. I used to think distance mattered when I was a kid, till I heard Bob Lazar and I realized that distance doesn't matter if they propel through non-reactionary propulsion systems.

• 45:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's right, which is a huge part of this.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  We'll get there, but I want to directly answer your question. I'm not accused of it. Okay, so check it out. Interdimensional.

• 46:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  If you understand what that means, then you are far the fuck ahead of me, because I can't live in this dimension. I don't know what that means. I know a Rubik's Cube, I know like you look at drawings of squares that end up being three-dimensional. Interdimensional, okay. So that would suggest that there is another, that there's, have you ever watched Stranger Things? Okay, so there's not, that would suggest an upside down. That would suggest that there is something that is always present and right here. And it's like our eyes only see a certain spectrum, our ears only hear a certain spectrum, but that's, it's deeper than that. It's saying that there is a world.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Within perforating, surrounding, touching, manipulating, interfacing with what we know to be tangible reality. So the common thought now is that these craft are not just from other planets, but there may be visitation where they're perforating dimensionally our environment and we see glimpses of them like you would see a piece of paper. I'll do this and it just pokes through and you see, I had to do that and it pokes through. That is the idea, right? Like instead of seeing a circle, that circle is two dimensional, but that's

• 47:27Speaker 02

  an, let's say it's an orange, it's a sphere. So if that's what he's saying, which it is, one possibility is that these visitors or watchers are from another dimension, but there's other options. Extraterrestrial, interdimensional, extratemporal. You also have the idea of breakaway civilizations as if they're just fucking from here and they're living in the damn ocean and.

• 48:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, that's another one that they're supposedly, well, not supposedly, there's people reporting that they're seeing crafts coming out of the ocean. There's something with the ocean.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  Well, there is and there's a reason because of the physics of the craft, that that is a fact. But you also have just the idea of ultra terrestrial, right? Hal Puthoff talked about this. It's the idea that it's a civilization that did some amazing things. And when there was a cataclysm, they used their technology and have been here all along.

• 48:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Like the Anunnaki?

• 48:31Speaker 02

  I don't know. I don't know.

• 48:33Christina Pazsitzky?

  What's that guy? I don't know. But wait, hold on, hold on. I'm so excited.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  Techno terrestrial is my favorite theory though.

• 48:39Christina Pazsitzky?

  Weird shit. Okay. So, sorry. Let just, just to wrap my brain around this. Are you suggesting one of the theories is that? We are the byproduct of like aliens, basically. Like, they came here, they fucked a bunch of us, they created us.

• 48:53Speaker 02

  Or just manipulated our genetic code to help build us so we could build tech. My favorite theory is techno-terrestrial. That's what I call it. So I came up with this idea many years ago, but I think it's like an old idea. But we've only had modern technological revolution for like the last hundred years, maybe fifty years.

• 49:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  I mean, what, the internet just fucking?

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Right, right, right.

• 49:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Fiber optics, hello?

• 49:15Speaker 02

  So I'm calling it techno-terrestrial. But the idea is that this is something that happens all amongst galaxies. That there is a artificial intelligence that has decided to self-replicate for some sort of byproduct, which I don't understand completely, that we were manipulated genetically to become humans with sentient intelligence and self-awareness. And we are fucking focused on building what they wanted us to build. That's one theory. So I'm just telling you, I don't know, but these are the popular theories in government

• 49:57Speaker 02

  that I've heard in skiffs, like in official, secret compartmentalized.

• 50:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  I know what a skiff is.

• 50:02Speaker 02

  You just fucking read it.

• 50:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  I really know what a skiff is.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  She's CIA.

• 50:05Christina Pazsitzky?

  I've heard this theory that we're supposed to reach a level of technological development. And then at that time, we are able to make contact or something.

• 50:16Speaker 02

  Who told you that? The aliens and shit?

• 50:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  I've talked to weird people.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, but do you believe that?

• 50:22Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 50:22Speaker 02

  But it's okay. But I mean, do you believe that? Because I don't know the answer.

• 50:25Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't have the answer. I think, okay, so here's, here's something I wanted to ask you about. And I'm, I'm leaning more towards John Lear's theory that is in your documentary, Sleeping Dog, which is out right now. You guys have to watch this.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  This kid, Michael Azowski, made it not at my behest. I had to ask my mom and my wife and my dog if it was okay. I was fucking pissed at first. I gave him twenty years of footage to go make UFO movies. And then he turns the camera around, convinced me it would protect me. People needed to see this.

• 50:55Christina Pazsitzky?

  They do.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  So I just want to be clear. I did. It's not my movie. I gave him footage. Michael Azowski, he's a gangster. We're either gonna love him, kill him. My mom's gonna kill him if it ends up hurting us.

• 51:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  It won't. I have to say that it was lovely to see your personal side and to also see your relationship with George Knapp. And John Lear, because I have only ever seen you and George, like, you know, at a podcast or on Rogan or whatever. And it's really lovely. You guys have such a nice dynamic as you did with John Lear.

• 51:23Speaker 02

  He's really my best friend.

• 51:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, I believe it.

• 51:25Speaker 02

  For real. He's my mentor. He's cool as shit. He teaches me shit.

• 51:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah. He's a real G. He's an OG.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  He is a fucking goat. George Knapp is the fucking goat.

• 51:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  He's rad. But I wanted to ask you about John Lear's theory of souls because I think, so another theory I've heard Rogan talk about is that we are being harvested for our souls.

• 51:48Speaker 02

  That comes from John Lear.

• 51:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay. I think that Earth is some kind of a penal colony, honestly. I don't think it's a

• 51:55Speaker 02

  Penal?

• 51:56Christina Pazsitzky?

  Penner, a penis colony. We just butt fuck each other.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. I've heard about it. So what's going on with that?

• 52:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  But I, it's curious.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  The penals? What is, what are we talking about?

• 52:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's penal colony.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Oh, like a, like a prison. Oh, the prison clinic.

• 52:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  I think so. And I think there's something to our souls having to be worked on. And that's maybe why we're here. But tell me John Lear's theory, because he thinks like the grays are involved and and the moon is like a

• 52:25Speaker 02

  Well, John Lear had no filter, like all his marbles were like going in and out and in and out. Now I couldn't keep track of it. But some things he said were absolutely true. And he connected me with a whole bunch of high level people. Because they all came to him because he had this special talent of like listening. What he's really doing was ready to tell everybody. The guy had like the biggest mouth ever. So I don't know which of your questions to answer because the the idea did come from John, although it's it's an older idea that we are on a prison planet, the penis colony.

• 52:58Christina Pazsitzky?

  The penis colony.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  The penis colony.

• 53:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  Exactly. So that's um.

• 53:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 53:03Speaker 02

  That's one. Also, the zoo theory that like, um, you know, it's just like, we're cool to watch. I mean, we fucking watch like little, you know, amoebas, like, we're cool to watch, just like entertainment.

• 53:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's true. I mean, I like to watch my cats just do stupid things and humans are so stupid. And we're so rife with conflict and problems.

• 53:24Speaker 02

  It's the best show on planet Earth. Planet Earth, best show in the solar system, I bet.

• 53:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  I bet.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  Not bragging.

• 53:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, no, I mean, there's a reason reality television, we finally turn the camera on ourselves. How stupid we all are. It's fucking great.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  I don't know stupid because also inspiring like, um, despite our stupidity, um, you see bravery, you see humor, you see. So I I love human beings, you know, how like, um, you know how we put up these barriers and we're like, I'm different than you. Okay. So I fucking love humans. I'm sorry. I'm an extrovert, you know? And um, the idea of like a prison planet, if you want to go dark, let's go dark, what he told me.

• 54:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah. What's his exact theory?

• 54:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:09Christina Pazsitzky?

  Prison planet.

• 54:11Speaker 02

  So we are containers.

• 54:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Containers for souls.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  I fucking wish I could smoke with you because the valley fever thing, I can't have a cigarette.

• 54:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  You got that when you were a youngster.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, youngster.

• 54:22Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, hold on, but our souls are containers and then the the aliens want us to preserve the container because they take our souls, right? Like our souls are food.

• 54:32Speaker 02

  I don't know what happens after you crack a beer, other than it goes into my mouth and I drink it. But his theory was that, and and funny enough, they they actually gave this to Bob Lazar in a briefing. And Bob is so a nerd. He is a science nerd. God bless his heart. But he is so analytical and he's had to be on the defensive, so he's really careful. He read a briefing that said that human beings were genetically altered like forty six times or something. And that that's like even Jesus was a. Like an alien, basically a hybrid.

• 55:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  Sure.

• 55:10Speaker 02

  Where they genetically all you're like, sure.

• 55:12Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, it's not, that's not.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  It's believable now after everything we've seen in the last five years.

• 55:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, but what you what isn't believable? Like, yeah, okay.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  Okay, so I'm just saying, like, I don't speculate as a journalist. This is not right now. We are talking theory.

• 55:25Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  So John Lear said, we are containers for souls. And that aliens like the grays are cybernetic organisms. They're biologically printed, but they have an AI hive mind. And they are here to take care of their product like we would a Kobe beef. We'd give them beer and massage them till the day we eat them. Okay, so that was John Lear's theory. That human beings were maturing like a fine wine, a soul through human experience. Pain, love, fucking.

• 56:04Speaker 02

  All emotions would mature that soul, maybe learning, learning.

• 56:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes, yes, to evolve your soul.

• 56:09Speaker 02

  Right, so evolve, mature the soul. And but John Lear said, but we're we're a product. We're a commodity.

• 56:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 56:19Speaker 02

  To a higher intelligence than the grays. That's what he said. And I started laughing my ass off when he told me that, right? Because I was because it was just like, you know, 15 years ago. I'm like laughing my ass off. What the fuck is this guy talking about? Lazar did read in a briefing memo that he was given a whole bunch, a whole stack. And he doesn't know what is misinformation to see if he goes and leaks it. So like, why would they tell a guy coming to work on a propulsion system? That fucking Jesus was a hybrid and that the grays call us containers? And we call the grays kids, the kids because they're short. Like, it doesn't make any sense they would show them that. So we think it's disinformation or what they call passage material.

• 57:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  So that's John Lear's theory that you asked for. Did that answer your question?

• 57:05Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes, totally. Then that would give the grays a whole lot of power over us. And from what I've been told, the grays are not like that intelligent. They're just like soldiers.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  I never met one.

• 57:17Christina Pazsitzky?

  I never met one either, but.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  I have friends that have, like legitimately documented by tons of other witnesses. There's two females, shout out to Liesel and Salma. Ariel School, there was a landing.

• 57:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, yeah, the Ariel School phenomenon. I've seen that UFO documentary.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  There's a few documentaries. There was a landing of a craft at a, at a school with about, you know, I think ninety kids, sixty, ninety kids, South Africa.

• 57:41Christina Pazsitzky?

  In the nineties.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, and the thing is, I heard about this story and famously John Mack from Harvard, who is head of psychology, psychiatry, whatever. He went out there with the BBC and they did interviews with the kids. And I see these little faces of these cute little kids, a very diverse school, white kids, black kids, the whole thing. It wasn't just like, you know, it was every kind of person, including teachers. Now, the teachers at first said, we didn't see him, nothing to see here, move on. Imagine a, a school and the BBC comes with John motherfucking Mack from Harvard? You're like, whoa. But here's what happened. I see these faces of these kids and kids tell it like they saw it.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  Like when you're in that setting with a, with an authority figure asking you, you don't coordinate amongst ninety, sixty, ninety kids. The same narrative, you don't draw the same picture, you don't, you just don't do that. And there's John Mack and I'm, I'm a kid and I'm watching these kids flash forward. Liesel, I, she, she meets me in Oregon. Salma, they were the closest to the aliens, they call them aliens. They're the grays. They had almond shaped eyes, big heads. And here's what people don't know. When they were standing in front of this being.

• 59:09Speaker 02

  Salma, or I think it was Liesl, said to me,

• 59:13Speaker 02

  in my mind was being projected the destruction of Earth.

• 59:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, yeah.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  And she said, the environment. And she says, I got the message, and a lot of the kids did, that we're gonna hurt ourselves and that we should protect Earth because it's special. And then she said she had to like break out of that, Liesl and Salma, break out of that, Liesl said, and all of a sudden it just all went back, like the sound was back, everything was back. And they left, ran away, or, you know, kids. The thing is, I asked her, I said, one,

• 59:54Speaker 02

  what, what did they want you to do and are you doing it? And she goes, and she looks at me, because it was the first time she had publicly spoken,

• 1:00:03Speaker 02

  and she goes, I think I'm doing it right now.

• 1:00:05Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:00:06Speaker 02

  I'm getting goosebumps. I think I'm doing it right now to tell people. But my brain, I have to be on guard all the time because in my life, I'm thinking in my head, are they lying to her? Right? So, so I, I wonder, Messengers of Deception is an amazing book by Jacques Vallée.

• 1:00:26Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, I know Jacques Vallée. I don't know him personally, but I, yeah.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  So, friend, shout out to Jacques Vallée. He is, he is a good friend. I love him with all of my heart. And he is a pioneer of deep thinking on this complex mosaic, this Rubik's Cube that we call the UFO phenomenon, which is much deeper than hard physical craft that fly through the sky, much deeper. I can tell you that because I am the fucking repository of crazy. Every single fucking person on planet, I made myself accessible. I got an email, I got a phone number, I will take any call, I will talk with you. I don't know if you, don't, just don't hurt me, protect me.

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  I'll listen to you. And I love that. I can't answer everything. It's just a bombardment.

• 1:01:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Wait, but can I ask you a question? So that, that doc- What you're talking about?

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  Aerial school.

• 1:01:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, look it up because they actually have footage of these children being interviewed by a renowned psychologist. And it's conclusive evidence that like they all saw the same thing.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  The head of Harvard psychology did the BBC.

• 1:01:33Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's nuts.

• 1:01:33Speaker 02

  Lisa and Salma shout the fuck out to you. You are heroes of mine too.

• 1:01:37Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's so cool.

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  Aliens. They saw aliens and the aliens projected things into their heads to protect the earth. But I'm skeptical person. I don't believe you or an alien. You have to show me, not tell me. So when the aliens say that shit to them, I'd be like, are you fucking liars?

• 1:01:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, that's true. Okay, but what about the orbs? What do you think I'm seeing in this guy?

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  I'm playing just the tip right now with you because I know you want to talk about orbs.

• 1:02:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  Let's talk about them. What are they?

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  About psionics and you want to talk about when you see with your mind and you connect and another other people stand by you can't see them.

• 1:02:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, no, they can see them.

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  Okay, but sometimes they can't because sometimes I don't till I look at the footage. So I got a story for you and I've never told it.

• 1:02:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, cool.

• 1:02:20Speaker 02

  Fuck, here we go. Jesus Christ. My God, I'm gonna pee my pants. Okay, check it out.

• 1:02:28Christina Pazsitzky?

  Go ahead, buddy.

• 1:02:30Speaker 02

  Just did.

• 1:02:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:32Speaker 02

  Actually, I did that one time in second grade. Piano teacher was the daughter of somebody from the Grateful Dead. And she told me I couldn't pee in class. I'm so defiant. This might define me. I'm so defiant. I go, okay, and I pissed myself.

• 1:02:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  Don't pee yourself.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  No, and then and then what happened was they had to give me new pants. It took me out of school. My mom was so mad at the at the teacher because she didn't let me go to the bathroom. Second grade, what the fuck was her name? Um, it was at Franklin School. Anyway, so I'm not gonna pee my pants.

• 1:03:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  Don't pee your pants.

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  That would be a great clip for you though.

• 1:03:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  Don't pee your pants.

• 1:03:03Speaker 02

  Okay, check it out.

• 1:03:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  Go ahead, buddy.

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  Well, just because I'm drinking beer.

• 1:03:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  I know.

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm gonna tell you a story because I thought about it.

• 1:03:09Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  When I saw your podcast where you talked about your experience, I didn't know you had one.

• 1:03:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:14Speaker 02

  You were with Duncan when you had it?

• 1:03:16Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, I've had multiple experiences.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  And told him.

• 1:03:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  Okay, so I just saw that.

• 1:03:20Christina Pazsitzky?

  That clip, yeah.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  And I was like, and I'm like, I'm fucking going to Austin. And then boom, your producer hits me and I'm like, I am free, baby. Let's do this. So

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  bear with me because I want you to hear this story.

• 1:03:35Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  I've never told it.

• 1:03:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  Not like this.

• 1:03:40Speaker 02

  I saw something in the sky and it looked like a silver surfer like from a cartoon. And naively, and I don't know what year it is, but everybody can go look at the video. It's probably one of the first videos I ever put on YouTube.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  And I asked people, what is this? Like you can see, I'm just asking, what is this? I'm not saying that's a UFO, I'm like, what is it? Immediately that night, Bill Nye the Science Guy goes on television and says, oh, you know, they probably superimposed brine shrimp onto the film. I go to Google, what the fuck is a brine shrimp? Sea monkey. Motherfucker said I put sea monkeys in the footage? That's not science. I was like, I was so confused. I thought he was a science guy. I called the news station. I go, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's my footage and I don't know how to superimpose dick. And they ignored me. And I thought, what the fuck? How does this work?

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  So I went deep dive on MySpace and I started connecting people on MySpace and just trying to figure out, I think it was MySpace or Facebook or something, it was like little groups, you know? And I was like, did anybody else film this? Famously TMZ had some basketball player that filmed it. I found five other people. So now I had six or seven, if you include mine, angles of observation. So I thought, I'm gonna fucking figure this out. I did. Then I got a seventh piece of footage. And it was the head GoPro or something camera on this Red Bull skydiver with iridium flares on his ankles that was going like the silver surfer over Santa Monica.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  And I go, yes, I solved a UFO case. I emailed all these UFO groups like, I solved the case, guys, I solved the case. Nobody wanted to take it because UFO people want UFOs. They don't want solved cases, right? That's boring. So I was like, what is this all about? I've been interested since a kid and, and nobody, like, I solved a case. So that was kind of my first UFO unidentified sighting was something I solved.

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  I got a YouTube message that says, "Meet me at this time, at this place, at this parking lot, on the rooftop," or no, he said somewhere else, "at this time, this place. And I'll show you. All you gotta do is be grateful. And there's a practice you can do, and you'll see him." And I turned to my girlfriend, who is now my wife, right? And I go, "This fucking crazy guy wants me to meet him in Santa Monica." And I don't, nobody knows me. I don't know anybody. I was doing art. I was an artist at the time. After martial athletics, I was an artist accidentally. And she goes, "You know you're gonna go."

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  "Oh shit!" So I immediately wrote him back and said, "I'll meet you. Give me your number." Gave me his number. I changed the location and time on him five times, just so I wasn't getting fooled. Like, he knew there was a balloon that was gonna go, a weather balloon or something like that. So I'm already thinking, like, defensively, right? Because I want to know the truth. Finally, we get up to, I took him in my car, delayed, delayed. He has all these cameras. He's a homeless guy, by the way. He had a cellphone, right? Number one thing. They all do. You got to. But back then, this is back then. This is like, probably the first iPhone. You can look at the video to see the year, but it was like, I was shocked. I was like,

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  "Cellphones? What the fuck?" But like, he was in a, he was in a home at that point, right? But he hit like a halfway house kind of thing. But real homeless guy. I love him with all of my heart. But he's got like, you know, he's had a rough life. So you got a guy who's had a rough life, who's homeless, who's gonna show UFOs, and has spent whatever money he got on this fucking camera and tripod. So I was filming him. I'm literally filming him. I have this footage. It's like, Michael didn't put it in the movie. I'm filming the guy, and he's doing some summoning thing. First time I ever heard about this. So imagine this is, I'm gonna get the year wrong. Whatever year it was, it was really early on. Look at the video.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  And all of a sudden, he goes, there, there. And you see me all skeptical, like, okay, okay, buddy. And I come into frame. I'll give you this footage for your show. It's never been aired, I don't think.

• 1:08:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:08:11Speaker 02

  It's a cool little clip, but I'm giving you context so we could air it, right? So what happens is, I'm like, okay, buddy. You can see on my face, I'm like, an artist wearing a fedora and shit. You know, I'm like, I'll go, buddy. I go next to him. My eyes, at that time, were a little bit better. I was like, looking, I can't see anything, but I'm looking right where his look is pointing. And he's going like, Yahweh, Yahweh. He had a religious belief, right? Which I, which I didn't. Holy shit.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  I saw something that day that previously I had never seen before. And they were fast movers. They were orbs.

• 1:08:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  So I don't catch them on the film. I capture accidentally because I was filming him. My reaction, which is stunned.

• 1:09:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  So like you, that was the first time I'd ever seen anything I couldn't explain. I could not explain this. That started this thing for, for a couple of years or a few years quietly. I'd meet him at the VA, whatever. I have dozens and dozens of times when he said, I'm gonna summon, and you're gonna see something in the fucking sky.

• 1:09:25Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  And I have a Canon 5D Mark II.

• 1:09:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  It's like a fucking shitty camera. I was good at the time. So you don't like, it's not like high definition zoom in like you got now. But he was fucking right. And it never took more than three minutes for something to show up. So I started telling my super educated friend from Harvard that I've known since three years old, named Michael Shane Side, this writer who's like, you know, my friend has known me forever and, you know, will call bullshit on me. And he just laughed his ass off at me. He's like, you fucking following a homeless guy, fucking looking at UFOs? You fucking kook. You know, that was his attitude.

• 1:10:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:04Speaker 02

  Let me tell you how this ends.

• 1:10:08Speaker 02

  So I kept showing footage to my friends. I'm like, look dude, there's something there, man. I don't know what it is, don't really fucking care, but at the same time, it's fucking weird, right? They mocked me and Asimakis Pagidas, AKA Alpha, my Greek friends. These guys are really educated. They studied things like classics and you know, they're smarty pants, right? Way smarter than me, not street smart, but smarter than me otherwise. And one day, I'm filming with John Lear and my, like now, my phone is on silent. I had this compulsion while I'm filming, which I also have on camera. And I'm like, John, hold on a second. In the middle of filming, I just had this feeling. And I picked up my phone and it's Mikey and I have it recorded.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  I open it up. I go, hold on, John. Mikey, what's up, man? And he goes, um, um, so you know that thing you told me about? He goes, I went outside, put myself in a state of gratitude and prayer. And he goes, and I am seeing orbs in the sky. And then I hear in the background, these girls walk by. What, what is that? They said to him, what is that? He goes, I, I, I don't know. I'm on the friend with my, uh, I'm on the phone with my friend Jeremy. I, I, I don't know. And I go, Mikey, John Lear is here. You know, John Lear, the UFO nut you were talking about? Um, and John goes, Mikey, tell them to come visit John Lear in Las Vegas, Nevada. They know where I live.

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  Motherfucker stands up and his legs are all black and fucked up from all his illness. I see him hobble to the door, open the door, all filming, all filming, look up out the sky.

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  Come back in, sit down and go, Mikey, it's a no show. They didn't come here, but that's okay. Uh, thanks for letting us know. And I sit there thinking, I have fallen down the rabbit hole and there's fucking no hope. And so all of that happened. That was my first experience to the possibility that consciousness is related to your ability to perceive. And I want to say that very specifically, your ability to perceive what is always there. John Lear used to say, Jeremy, if your eyes could see. The sky would be black from how many UFOs are up above you. And I was like, dude, you fucking crazy, right?

• 1:12:33Speaker 02

  So, so that's the first time, I do a good John Lear impression. First time that I thought, A, John Lear believes what he's telling me. He got up in pain to go look out because he thought Mikey was gonna send the UFOs there. And Mikey said it, said, go to see John Lear in Las Vegas, Nevada. I will give you that footage too, it's crazy little clip. But all it shows is that John Lear believed it. I, I was not a believer in that, but I've seen that happen. There is a connection between human consciousness and what we call UFOs. Always has been, always been reported, but don't get trapped. And let me explain, I think it's really important.

• 1:13:17Speaker 02

  That is a vulnerability. At some point, if you have an extraordinary experience, the fish gotta get bigger. Your mind has to make it bigger. If you want something bigger, tell them to come closer. That's what always bothers me this summer, I think. Tell them to come closer. If you have this psychic connection and they want to, and it's real? Tell them to come closer so you can like talk with them. That's what I would do. But I'm kind of like kryptonite to the unexplained because I have to be as a journalist. Right? So like, I'm always the guy inside going to get the night vision goggles for my friends that are out in the desert, me in Pioneer Town. I'm like, I'm gonna give you the coolest thing you see 100,000 times more stars. Hold on, I'll be right back.

• 1:14:01Speaker 02

  I go in, they all start screaming. So, close friends of mine, scientists who didn't believe shit, saw stuff. By the time I get out with the night vision? You missed it, motherfucker. That was always me. It was always me. So you're lucky, you're fortunate, actually. Luck is like opportunity and your ability to grasp that opportunity. But you're lucky when you're born, you're fortunate. There's a difference in that word. Look it up. The, the, the point being that you saw something.

• 1:14:40Speaker 02

  That expanded

• 1:14:43Speaker 02

  your concept of what it means to be human. That is fortunate. Because there is a larger world out there. The ancient Greeks used to think that stars were pecking marks from

• 1:15:00Speaker 02

  what are they called, not Tweety birds, hummingbirds, they used to believe hummingbirds made the stars by pecking the firmament. But now the world is so much bigger, we realize there's galaxies and shit. So you experienced that, don't ever let that leave you, there's something bigger, there's something greater, right?

• 1:15:17Christina Pazsitzky?

  Definitely.

• 1:15:18Speaker 02

  But you're being played.

• 1:15:20Christina Pazsitzky?

  Why?

• 1:15:21Speaker 02

  By our government.

• 1:15:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  You think so?

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  I know so.

• 1:15:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, then tell me how I'm being played.

• 1:15:27Speaker 02

  The psionics movement is a government controlled movement. I've, I've, I've really never talked about this publicly. But I know that to be true. Not that these guys didn't have experiences, not that there isn't a connection to consciousness and UAP. But I told you at the beginning that they're trying to shape the emerging UAP narrative, that is a quote from a CIA document.

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  The psionics movement as it's presented to you by intelligence agents

• 1:15:59Speaker 02

  is to shape the narrative. It's not that it's untrue, all of it, some of it is untrue. And I think if I had those guys sitting with me right here, they'd, they'd admit, they'd want to admit it. Cause they're patriots and they're probably good humans.

• 1:16:14Speaker 02

  So keep your mind open.

• 1:16:16Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:16:17Speaker 02

  Don't let the marbles spill out.

• 1:16:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, hold on, but then how are they, how is it that if I go outside anywhere in the world? And I literally just look up and I like what, what your crazy homeless friend was saying. You look up in gratitude, I do have to be on a certain emotional whatever frequency.

• 1:16:36Speaker 02

  You've noticed that?

• 1:16:37Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  Explain that.

• 1:16:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, see, here's a difference, here's what I think the, okay, I'm so glad you said that. I think this is where worlds collide, this is where we need to have the orb discussion meets like the journalist covering the UAP.

• 1:16:53Speaker 02

  Let's go there.

• 1:16:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah. There is a component to this stuff that is spiritual, that isn't just, I haven't seen spacecraft, I can't tell you that I've seen discs or Tic Tacs or any of that stuff.

• 1:17:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  But like, uh, if I go out and if I have like what your friend was saying, a feeling of gratitude of a meditative state. If I'm not thinking about my worldly bullshit, my problems, I have to be in the right mind space, they show up.

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:17:28Christina Pazsitzky?

  What? Don't say it to me like that. Why? How, how would the government know that Christina P., the comedian in Austin, Texas, is thinking positive thoughts?

• 1:17:37Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, it's not our government putting craft in the air.

• 1:17:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh.

• 1:17:41Speaker 02

  They can't control that.

• 1:17:42Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh.

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  No, I'm sorry, we had a miscommunication.

• 1:17:44Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, so how are they can, what's the, what's the rub?

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  The, the rub is that there is a connection. It appears as a journalist, there is a connection. It appears, I can't deny it, no matter how allergic I am to it, to consciousness and what we call UFOs, what you're experiencing.

• 1:18:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  To be able to perceive them, the perception.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Your words, not mine.

• 1:18:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  Right.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  I believe that to be correct. I can't prove it, I believe it.

• 1:18:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, I do too.

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  Okay. So our government is hyper aware of the connective tissue between consciousness and the perceived world. Equations are classified. So what you're seeing is the phenomenon and that's what we call it now. Right? It's popular because it's much bigger than the spaceships, as we call them, the craft, UFOs. I believe. I'm, I'm pretty damn sure. You take that for whatever bearded, tattooed, fucking accidental journalist, take that for whatever you think. So what you're seeing is the phenomenon.

• 1:18:56Speaker 02

  Our government can't hide that from you, can they? Because it's you, it's you out there. If that's real and it's true, and look, I'll be like your best worst friend, your worst best friend, because you'll send me a video and you'll say, I just summoned these orbs and you'll send it to me. And I'll geospace, location, tag, all that shit. And I will sometimes find that you have seen a distant airplane.

• 1:19:20Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:19:21Speaker 02

  Starlink.

• 1:19:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  For sure. That's, yes.

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  But sometimes there'll be nothing trackable on any tracker. And there will be other characteristics, as an example, which I've seen myself. Instantaneous acceler- I've seen it in person. Instantaneous acceleration. We don't have anything that can do that.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  So when you send me a video, I will eliminate. You just text me the video. I'll eliminate all the knowns. And if we have an unknown, then you saw a UFO. Unidentified fucking object, okay?

• 1:20:05Speaker 02

  Brass tacks.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  Our government knows the jig is up. They were forced into that position. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's like some altruistic thing with people in government. They're like ready to tell people, right?

• 1:20:22Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, it's not usually the case. Humans are like that.

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  So what you're seeing by how you're describing it to me is the real UFO phenomenon.

• 1:20:31Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:31Speaker 02

  It's not like government craft they're putting up.

• 1:20:33Christina Pazsitzky?

  Thank you. Finally.

• 1:20:34Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:20:35Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's not like this reverse. It's not like that.

• 1:20:37Speaker 02

  They're retarded. It's so discombobulated.

• 1:20:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  The whole orchestration of the intelligence agencies. There's no way.

• 1:20:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  But here's what I'm saying, Jeremy Corbell, is that there is that there are the weirdos of the world like me, the artists, the creatives.

• 1:20:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:53Christina Pazsitzky?

  That can tap into this consciousness that allows us to see.

• 1:20:57Speaker 02

  Anybody can.

• 1:20:58Christina Pazsitzky?

  Anybody can.

• 1:20:59Speaker 02

  But, but, but, but creative people, I've heard this a lot, like musicians, creative people. They tend to be seekers of like something. So you hear about it more from them, but I'll tell you factually. If I go through 15 years of recorded phone calls.

• 1:21:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of course. Look, I've got, my, my fans have emailed me. I've seen the orbs. I've seen the orbs.

• 1:21:20Speaker 02

  Engineers call me from nuclear programs. They did never believed in UFOs. It was like. A car crash, so you don't need to be there summoning.

• 1:21:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, no.

• 1:21:31Speaker 02

  For some people, it's like a car crash. It just happens to them.

• 1:21:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:35Speaker 02

  And it injures them because they see something their mind can never erase.

• 1:21:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, I see what you're saying. So if you see it before you're kind of ready to see it, maybe it'll break you.

• 1:21:44Speaker 02

  It's just people not trying is what I'm saying. So there's, there's people that don't try. So you want a concrete example?

• 1:21:51Christina Pazsitzky?

  What of trying?

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  Of people not trying and seeing one?

• 1:21:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  Sure.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Okay, I don't know where you want to go, but here.

• 1:21:57Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, no, no. I want to talk about, okay, so, so hold on, let's back it up.

• 1:22:01Speaker 02

  Go wherever you want to go.

• 1:22:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, so you think what I am seeing are actual aliens. Is that what we're saying?

• 1:22:08Speaker 02

  I didn't say that.

• 1:22:09Christina Pazsitzky?

  UAP phenomenon.

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're seeing UAP. You're seeing the real phenomenon, whatever that is, the phenomenon, which we call UFOs.

• 1:22:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Right.

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  From, from, from your account to me, I assess that you are not mistaking planes. Whenever you feel grateful, you, you know, look at the sky when you're, when you're feeling like fucking shit.

• 1:22:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  It won't, it won't show up.

• 1:22:33Speaker 02

  It won't be there, right? So you're.

• 1:22:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  And I have witnesses, my husband, my children.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:37Christina Pazsitzky?

  Anybody comes over to my fucking house, I'm like, let's go outside and look at the orbs. Okay. Holy shit. Like I've invited people over and they're, they, they shit their fucking pants. It's real.

• 1:22:48Speaker 02

  I, I've been.

• 1:22:48Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't summon them, by the way, and I, I don't feel like, I don't, I don't, that's a weird word.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  So I'm so, I'm so glad you said that.

• 1:22:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't like that idea. It's not that. Yeah.

• 1:22:56Speaker 02

  Okay. You don't summon shit.

• 1:22:59Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 1:22:59Speaker 02

  That shit is there all the time.

• 1:23:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  I think so too.

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  Because what happens, people start thinking they're a master summoner.

• 1:23:05Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 1:23:05Speaker 02

  And I've been with them and they get so depressed that when I'm there, that they don't see them, that they say, well, it was, you know, your investigative mind, it stopped them from coming. Bitch, I've been with a lot of people that saw them. They think they're summoning them. They are not. All they're doing is removing the fucking blinders off of their eyes.

• 1:23:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes. Thank you. That's what it is.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  We call them the watchers. You know, in some, in, in intelligence circles, I heard that. They're always there.

• 1:23:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  They're always there.

• 1:23:35Speaker 02

  However.

• 1:23:37Speaker 02

  They do interact and let me give you concrete proof. It to to me, not to you. This will be a story to you. I was so skeptical. That I was like with a bunch of people like tell them to do shit then. Tell them to do something.

• 1:23:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  And they're like flash. Motherfucker flashed. I'm like, that's pretty cool. I'm like, tell it to move left. Motherfucker moved left. Just asked it, will you please like? Um, I said, tell it to circle around the other one.

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  Fucking circle around the other one. So I'm sitting here shitting my pants. I'm just pissing it. And I'm like, trying to keep cool looking.

• 1:24:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:15Speaker 02

  And I'm like, I said out loud. And and be careful what you say out loud. I've learned that in my three, three times I said something or two times. For sure. I said something out loud and life was like, oh, we're participatory in this thing we call reality. Check this out bitch.

• 1:24:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:30Speaker 02

  And it was like. I like, that's where I got sick and went, went to the, that's where, that's where my whole life changed. I asked the world, do you have anything other for me than the martial athletics and being a sensei and teaching that? And devoting my life to it and it fucking answered me.

• 1:24:48Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, I know. It's fucked up.

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  I said out loud, it's fucked up. I said out loud, we're being too serious for your pockets. I said out loud. I will never doubt again. If you perform this exact maneuver. And I said it. The Harvard guys there, Mikey and Alpha, the guy, Asimakis Pagidis. And motherfucker. It. The, the things we were seeing in the sky did it.

• 1:25:13Christina Pazsitzky?

  So.

• 1:25:14Speaker 02

  So I was like. I, but I still doubt.

• 1:25:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:19Speaker 02

  You know, I'll never doubt again. I didn't keep my promise.

• 1:25:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  But that's the seat. So there, there is and there lies the difference of consciousness, I think.

• 1:25:27Speaker 02

  You nailed it with saying you don't summon. You're right.

• 1:25:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 1:25:30Speaker 02

  Tell all the summoners, they don't fucking summon shit.

• 1:25:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 1:25:33Speaker 02

  They get these egos and they start religions based on it. All they had was an experience of the natural world and the fish gets bigger. You can't summon shit. You can't. They're there.

• 1:25:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  They're there.

• 1:25:45Speaker 02

  If this is true.

• 1:25:46Christina Pazsitzky?

  And I think there is something to. Uh, you being open, like you said.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  Fact.

• 1:25:53Christina Pazsitzky?

  Being open, be not being like fuck. Like you, you can't go into it.

• 1:25:58Speaker 02

  Just be open to it.

• 1:25:58Christina Pazsitzky?

  Just be open, curious.

• 1:26:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  And grateful.

• 1:26:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, what does that word mean? So like, so I fixate on words because I think they're weapons, right? So state of be grateful. Like, sure, like, we're grateful, like, we're alive, you're grateful, we can smoke a cigarette because it fucking is amazing. I can have a beer, I can hug my wife, I can sleep, you know, and get good rest. Like, I think all you have to do is be open.

• 1:26:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:26:36Speaker 02

  People do all these things, like there's protocols to summon.

• 1:26:38Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't buy that stuff.

• 1:26:39Speaker 02

  All bullshit, because I've seen different protocols all work. And I've also seen a lot of people get so drunk on having seen it that they literally think they're prophets.

• 1:26:51Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:26:51Speaker 02

  And then, and then every plane, every satellite.

• 1:26:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, becomes a thing.

• 1:26:56Speaker 02

  Fucking hell.

• 1:26:57Christina Pazsitzky?

  See, that's what I'm saying. So I also think there's something to who you are as a human, if you're humble, or if you're, like, you have an ego about it, and you think you're a prophet, like, they're not gonna...

• 1:27:12Speaker 02

  No, no, I don't think they give a fuck. No, I think...

• 1:27:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  I think they do, Jeremy. I think that they won't...

• 1:27:17Speaker 02

  No, because people with huge egos still get real captures of summoning.

• 1:27:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  So I don't think egos are bad.

• 1:27:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 1:27:24Speaker 02

  I don't think having a large ego is bad, if you're a large person. Don't be a douchebag, don't be a dick.

• 1:27:31Christina Pazsitzky?

  Don't be a dick, yeah, yeah.

• 1:27:31Speaker 02

  But one sends, one of my jujitsu teachers once told me when I was a kid, he said, I mean, he was like a fucking gnarly dude. I mean, like, building a fucking black power army, like, the dude was gnarly, and I fucking got my knee snapped, and, you know, I got the shit beat out of me, and he bit through my thumb down to the bone. He was like a gnarly guy, but he did say something really wise. Taught me a lot what not to do, but also taught me what to do. And he said to me, he says, when you...

• 1:28:05Speaker 02

  Diminish your power.

• 1:28:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  To someone else to make them comfortable.

• 1:28:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:11Speaker 02

  You're doing them a disservice. And I'm like, what do you mean? And he says, because they're uncomfortable, because they're upset, or whatever the fuck it is. Then, then you're not living by example. So he's not saying go be an egomaniac. What he's saying is, don't, he goes, you're not, you're not bragging, you're confessing. He says, just be yourself.

• 1:28:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  But fully yourself, the, the impression that I get is you have to be fully yourself by allowing other people to do their thing. You do your thing. You're just a clear vessel. You're a clear line.

• 1:28:47Speaker 02

  So you're talking about when you're summoning or in life?

• 1:28:48Christina Pazsitzky?

  Don't say summoning. When I.

• 1:28:50Speaker 02

  So sorry, no, you're right. You're right. When, when you're experiencing or when you're in life?

• 1:28:53Christina Pazsitzky?

  In both. No, so I think the tangent to, so since I have been seeing these orbs.

• 1:28:59Speaker 02

  It changed you.

• 1:29:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:00Speaker 02

  Tell me how.

• 1:29:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's an enlightenment. It's a very.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  What does that word mean?

• 1:29:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  It means that I, I, I've had a lot of, uh, childhood trauma, a lot of stuff. And everybody who's listened to me for the last 20 years, I'm very open about my life. I've been in therapy, EMDR, Prozac, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.

• 1:29:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  I had cancer and now I'm smoking again, which is great.

• 1:29:21Speaker 02

  What kind of cancer you have?

• 1:29:22Christina Pazsitzky?

  I had breast cancer, a very rare kind, by the way, that like less than one percent of the population has, two years. And I had such PTSD.

• 1:29:30Speaker 02

  My mom did too, by the way.

• 1:29:31Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, it's horrific.

• 1:29:32Speaker 02

  She had other, other.

• 1:29:33Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'm fine now, but I had this bizarre O kind that nobody knew about. It was like a rare form. And then I was in Boca Raton and I was broken with PTSD and I just.

• 1:29:42Speaker 02

  I saw that in the news or something. You were, you were on some trip with your husband.

• 1:29:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, that's when we got stranded and I saw orbs in, in there too.

• 1:29:48Speaker 02

  Of course you did.

• 1:29:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  But before that I was begging God, whoever, please help me with this PTSD.

• 1:29:53Speaker 02

  Right, whatever you call it.

• 1:29:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, I'm broken and I, I will not come back from this. This is too much suffering.

• 1:29:59Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 1:29:59Christina Pazsitzky?

  Can't do it, God. And I'm not a religious person. I'm not whatever. And I just started, that's when I started seeing the orbs and meditating.

• 1:30:07Speaker 02

  Holy shit.

• 1:30:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  I meditated and guess what? They, they, whatever, this connection, this thing, this awakening, I've had a spiritual awakening where it's, um.

• 1:30:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's broken down my past trauma. It's broken down bad memories, bad ways of being.

• 1:30:25Speaker 02

  By seeing these things?

• 1:30:26Christina Pazsitzky?

  Not by seeing, but also by meditating every day. I don't know how, I don't know why.

• 1:30:33Speaker 02

  Do you take like five minutes or?

• 1:30:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  I know, I can meditate for two hours. This morning I did for two hours. Yeah, I sit in the dark for two hours and I get in downloads.

• 1:30:42Speaker 02

  Do you try to do anything?

• 1:30:43Christina Pazsitzky?

  Emotional downloads, no.

• 1:30:44Speaker 02

  You just sit there?

• 1:30:45Christina Pazsitzky?

  I just fucking sit there and I'm telling you and I I've worked through my 50 years of trauma. I cry, I rage, I get angry. And then I get another inspiration, another thing. Maybe it's the subconscious mind. Maybe it's my unconscious mind. Yeah, fucking great! And now I'm at a point where like, uh, I feel more integrated, as they say, and Carl Jung would say you've integrated your shadows. So I've been able to see my shadows. Feel them, because I didn't have feelings for many years. I was so traumatized. And this, whatever, since I've been seeing orbs, I feel things.

• 1:31:25Speaker 02

  Okay, so is it since you've been seeing orbs? That that changed your life, or is it that your life changed and then you looked up?

• 1:31:35Christina Pazsitzky?

  Both, in conjunction. I've always been a seeker. I've always, I studied philosophy in college. I've always been curious about the existence of reality. I never thought that what we have.

• 1:31:45Speaker 02

  Ontological, right?

• 1:31:46Christina Pazsitzky?

  Ontological proof. I went to Oxford, I studied every proof for the existence of God for one year, okay? So I've always been a seeker.

• 1:31:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:31:55Christina Pazsitzky?

  So I've always been in therapy, I've always been working towards. And then the time I see the orbs, from that point till now, so last October until now, I've had a thorough fucking integration of my consciousness.

• 1:32:08Speaker 02

  Which makes you more, um...

• 1:32:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  Vulnerable?

• 1:32:11Speaker 02

  Okay, but, yeah, let me ask, I'm gonna ask before you tell me.

• 1:32:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Go ahead.

• 1:32:15Speaker 02

  Um, does it make you more authentic?

• 1:32:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes. And I can't tolerate inauthentic, I never really could before.

• 1:32:25Speaker 02

  You can see it in two seconds, right?

• 1:32:26Christina Pazsitzky?

  And now I can smell it. I don't like it. I don't want to be near it. And so many things in my life have fallen away.

• 1:32:31Speaker 02

  Yes, good.

• 1:32:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  Because of that.

• 1:32:33Speaker 02

  Now you're focused.

• 1:32:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:35Speaker 02

  Because you know the path.

• 1:32:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  And what your jujitsu teacher is saying?

• 1:32:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:39Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's the point where I just realized yesterday, actually. So I go, I walk in nature. I go to the park and I look at trees and.

• 1:32:45Speaker 02

  As part of meditation, is that, you consider that meditation too?

• 1:32:47Christina Pazsitzky?

  Sure. It's how my fucking brain is. No!

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  Okay, because I meditate all the time.

• 1:32:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, you do?

• 1:32:52Speaker 02

  I never sit down anymore. I did that for like thirty years.

• 1:32:56Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:32:56Speaker 02

  All I do is I try to be tunnel vision present.

• 1:33:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:33:00Speaker 02

  And for me, people are like, that's not meditation. You gotta sit down and do these om's and chants. And I'm like, what the fuck?

• 1:33:07Christina Pazsitzky?

  I hate that stuff.

• 1:33:07Speaker 02

  Maybe. I'm like, right now, all I try to do is be with you.

• 1:33:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:11Speaker 02

  Look straight ahead and try to be present. And to me, that's meditation. Is that right? How you understand it?

• 1:33:17Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes, and, so yes, and, I'm gonna yes, and, that since I started seeing orbs, they, they, whatever, this thing.

• 1:33:25Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:33:26Christina Pazsitzky?

  I got connected to my heart, if that makes sense. They literally, or whatever, this, this, what I do know when I meditate to get in connection with my soul, with my feelings, I would start by putting my hand on my heart just to feel something. I wasn't feeling anything. I was so traumatized.

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  You just go like that because you need, in your mind, the words you use, you're like, my heart, I'm not feeling. So you, see, that's what I mean. You can create anything that is meaningful to you and it has the intent that allows you to do.

• 1:34:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes, a hundred percent.

• 1:34:01Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:34:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes. And so the more connected I become to myself, the more connected I've been to my past, my healing process, the more orbs I can see. Does that make sense? Like, I can go out into fucking camping with my kids and I see them.

• 1:34:20Speaker 02

  So you're trapped.

• 1:34:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  There's some connection. What's my trap?

• 1:34:23Speaker 02

  It's a big trap.

• 1:34:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 1:34:24Speaker 02

  So. I go out to a great dinner and I try this fucking piece of sushi, it's out of this world. Shout out to Itzakaya in Ojai, California. This fucking sushi is the greatest in the world. The guy makes it with love, the owner. He puts a piece in front of me and I eat that and it is so good. What do I want to do? I want to share that with fucking everybody.

• 1:34:46Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:46Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, you're trapped, everybody.

• 1:34:47Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, yeah, okay.

• 1:34:48Speaker 02

  I want to share that with everybody. And I fucking tell them, you could, there's this guy and you gotta go to this fucking sushi, so good. This fucking piece of a fucking thing. And I get passionate, I'm like, it's the fucking best thing, you gotta fucking try it. I'm gonna take you, I'm gonna go pick you up right now. They try it and they're like, oh yeah.

• 1:35:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's great.

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  I go, wait, and they're like, oh, I hate fish. I'm like, what did you fucking tell me? So here's your trap.

• 1:35:14Speaker 02

  This is what I say at the end of the movie. UFOs are a symbol. They're a sign.

• 1:35:22Speaker 02

  They're for you. In my experience, this level of it, we're talking about not the government level. They're for you. Your trap is that when something changes you, which you said it did, then you want to share that. So you're gonna tell people, hey, come look at this. And you're gonna say, it's so cool.

• 1:35:46Speaker 02

  And the trap is you're gonna feel bad when they don't have the same experience as you. It will happen, don't worry.

• 1:35:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  Right, no, I've already shown people and they're like,

• 1:35:54Speaker 02

  It's a no show.

• 1:35:55Christina Pazsitzky?

  Great, no, no, they see them and then they go, cool, what time is the movie? Like, they don't give a shit and it doesn't affect them.

• 1:36:01Speaker 02

  So you're cool with that?

• 1:36:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:36:03Speaker 02

  As a person to person, like, I've seen people get destroyed because their whole world changed when they were able to understand that this is real, whatever this is. And then they go into like, like a PTSD shock that like, nobody cares and they, okay, so you understand that's for you, what you saw?

• 1:36:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes, well, here's the thing too, and I feel like that's just the laser light show, like orbs and stuff and phenomenon or whatever the fuck you see, that's just the, Like externals, the, the fun, the fireworks, the truth of it.

• 1:36:37Speaker 02

  The shiny thing.

• 1:36:38Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, like the real stuff is the internal healing. If you get to connect, if you get this spiritual thing, that's the real gold that I want to share with people. And also, I want to-

• 1:36:49Speaker 02

  But you share that without showing them your photos. You share that by being you every day after that.

• 1:36:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of course. Yes, baby. That's why I'm here talking to you. Yes. But that's why I want to talk to you too, because I want to, if you see these things in the sky, I just don't want the government narrative of like-

• 1:37:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, be careful.

• 1:37:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  This is war.

• 1:37:06Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:37:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  We gotta, we gotta go to war with these things. I don't think that everything in the sky is inherently evil.

• 1:37:13Speaker 02

  So you seeing that, so I don't read media because my mom will screenshot anything negative and send it to me. I don't need to read it. So what, what you're telling me, and I just want to make sure, is the predominant narrative in popular culture right now, that, that they're coming and we gotta prepare and be ready and be worried? Is, is that, is that what you're saying?

• 1:37:38Christina Pazsitzky?

  I think what I've observed as a, as a child of the Cold War, you and I are about the same, we're the same age.

• 1:37:43Speaker 02

  Forty-nine.

• 1:37:44Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, I'm forty-nine too. And I think we're raised in the Cold War narrative of, we've also watched all the movies, um, you know, Close Encounters. And like, you're led to believe that what else is out there is inherently gonna, it's gonna abduct you? You're gonna wake up and your butt's gonna be bleeding? This is a fucking, these are the, this is gnarly, this is bad. You gotta prevent against knowing these things. And I'm like, I just don't think that's a very intelligent way to go about looking at the unknown. We don't know. I don't know. I can't tell you. Maybe there is no correlation between me seeing stuff in the sky and having

• 1:38:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  um, an emotional healing. I don't know. Maybe there isn't. You're right. But I think for us immediately- Oh, good. Okay. So then we agree on that.

• 1:38:32Speaker 02

  But I don't understand chicken and egg yet with you, and we're gonna get to that, because I'm gonna interview you in a second.

• 1:38:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh shit. But I just don't, I, I just hate the narrative of like, uh, weapons and we, you know. This is bullshit.

• 1:38:43Speaker 02

  Okay, but you hate the narrative because it you don't like weapons? Or do you hate the narrative because you think it's a disservice to humanity?

• 1:38:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't want the public, exactly. I don't want the public inherently thinking that because it's unknown, it's bad and we have to go to war over it. We have to nuke somebody over it. That's the thing.

• 1:38:59Speaker 02

  So we're totally aligned, but there's a lot of nuance. And I depending on what you want to talk about and your audience wants to hear. I would love to break down the nuance of the messaging from our government. If you want, that's too much.

• 1:39:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't want to hear it.

• 1:39:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck that.

• 1:39:15Christina Pazsitzky?

  Can I tell you, I feel like I then fuck their messaging. It's like.

• 1:39:19Speaker 02

  But be aware.

• 1:39:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's so much information and disinformation and bullshit. It's like, oh, fuck, who cares what?

• 1:39:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:39:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  I that's what I'm saying too.

• 1:39:26Speaker 02

  I'm gonna simpify it. I'm gonna simpify it, which is just, um.

• 1:39:33Speaker 02

  You cannot trust? Anybody that isn't independent? Telling you shit. Obvious.

• 1:39:43Speaker 02

  The reason the government? Uses emissaries to tell you? Like a spaceship might be coming is what they're saying, you know? Sometimes? That we have to prepare?

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  Is because? In the good sense? That's their fucking job is to protect you.

• 1:40:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's true.

• 1:40:05Speaker 02

  They can't get out of their mind, the weaponization, the last seventy fucking eighty, ninety years. So I'm gonna give them an out. I'm gonna give them an out.

• 1:40:13Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:40:13Speaker 02

  However, reality? Reality? These are so advanced. These craft, I don't know if the beings are, might be fucking retards who stole the keys from their parents. But like, the craft are so advanced? It they wanted to hurt us, they'd hurt us at any given fucking second.

• 1:40:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's what I said when when Duncan was here. They could have wiped us out.

• 1:40:32Speaker 02

  Fucking Duncan, why isn't he here?

• 1:40:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  A million year, I know, he's a Duncan.

• 1:40:36Speaker 02

  Duncan, I've texted you three fucking times and I gave you a goddamn Duncan.

• 1:40:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  God damn it.

• 1:40:41Speaker 02

  If you don't meet me at three fifty today at my hotel for me to take you to Willy Wonka's Magical Emporium of Fantasy? Fuck you. Fuck you.

• 1:40:50Christina Pazsitzky?

  Fuck your mother.

• 1:40:51Speaker 02

  Wow, that too.

• 1:40:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay, where are we? Sorry.

• 1:40:55Speaker 02

  Where are you? Where do you want to?

• 1:40:57Christina Pazsitzky?

  Where do I want to go? I mean, look, I just think.

• 1:40:59Speaker 02

  I agree with you.

• 1:41:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  There's more to this. I think that we're in a highly materialistic? Age where we have been?

• 1:41:07Christina Pazsitzky?

  Told how to think, how to feel.

• 1:41:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  And there, look, spirituality and all these things have been, human consciousness is also the great mystery that we don't know shit about. And I think the atomic model that we're on is fucking bullshit too. And we're about to enter this new era of understanding consciousness and how it works. And but that's the thing is like, let's fucking do it. Come on. What's the whole

• 1:41:33Speaker 02

  You're right. What's my hope? Let's fucking go. Let's force it. Let's use people's desire to force scientific study, to, to force experiments. Let's focus on human consciousness, because there's something beautiful that is intangible to me, where our consciousness has a direct interplay with physical reality. I've experienced that.

• 1:41:59Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of course. Look, the, the secret, remember that thing that came out in 2000?

• 1:42:04Speaker 02

  Yes, it felt like a cult though.

• 1:42:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  Really? Because I'm sitting here now in a fucking studio. This is the house that Farts built. Because I was into the secret and manifesting and using your mind to create. That's what I'm saying. Like, I created a stupid career telling jokes about my tits through just believing and going. So consciousness is very powerful.

• 1:42:24Speaker 02

  Okay, so that's real. But then what if I've got friends that are super sick? And they have incurable diseases. And everybody's telling them, oh, do this, the secret, do this, uh, meditate, do this. And then what happens is, they still got cancer. They still fucking die. And so what I'm asking you is, you know, how do you square that circle? You're like, so I agree with you. My whole life-

• 1:42:53Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'm talking about material success. I'm not talking about health. And I'm talking about like

• 1:42:57Speaker 02

  So in your body, you can't have effect?

• 1:42:59Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't know. I don't know that one.

• 1:43:02Speaker 02

  My mom told me, when she had cancer really bad, that she got all the treatments, she lost her hair, she did all this. When I was a kid, I was like 13. And she says, I visualized like snow, just- Coming or going all over my body, just ripping out the cancer, getting it gone. Now, we don't know, was it the chemotherapy? Was it the snow? I don't know.

• 1:43:20Christina Pazsitzky?

  We don't know.

• 1:43:21Speaker 02

  But it can't hurt.

• 1:43:22Christina Pazsitzky?

  Can't hurt.

• 1:43:23Speaker 02

  To visualize, like you do in the material success of your life.

• 1:43:26Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of course.

• 1:43:26Speaker 02

  To visualize a healthy body. Yeah, what's in your mind is, is.

• 1:43:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Is very powerful.

• 1:43:31Speaker 02

  It is the, the worst virus ain't fucking covid. The worst virus is a fucking douchebag putting negativity on. You have to guard your mind like more than you need to guard your physical body.

• 1:43:44Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of course.

• 1:43:45Speaker 02

  So we're talking the same, like, we're just meeting for the first time in person.

• 1:43:48Christina Pazsitzky?

  I know.

• 1:43:48Speaker 02

  I can do that too.

• 1:43:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  Wait, hold on. So do you think that, have you heard stories?

• 1:43:52Speaker 02

  I mean, burp.

• 1:43:53Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, you can rip, get, let's fucking rip, dude. Have you heard stories like mine where people see orbs and then they become awakened or something?

• 1:44:02Speaker 02

  Christina.

• 1:44:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  What? I don't know, I'm new to this, but I've only talked to the blood cells. I know.

• 1:44:10Speaker 02

  Stories like yours? If I had a, if I had a penny, honey, so, so, so check it out. But to give you a positive, um, feedback here.

• 1:44:20Speaker 02

  My emails are like a Vegas slot machine at midnight.

• 1:44:26Christina Pazsitzky?

  I know.

• 1:44:27Speaker 02

  From, no, no, in a good way. From all around the world. From every socioeconomic class of human being. From every country. From every educational background. Military, non-military, kids that like write me, they're doing a class paper because they saw something at 13. You're asking me, have I ever heard a story like yours?

• 1:44:58Speaker 02

  It is a worldwide experience. We just don't talk about it or share it because we've been told.

• 1:45:11Speaker 02

  You ain't rap so tight.

• 1:45:13Christina Pazsitzky?

  Hmm. The awakening part, though, the, the integration, the emotional, spiritual.

• 1:45:19Speaker 02

  All these words you use, people, I hear them all the time. I don't relate to that. What is the awakening? What is the spiritual? I am awake. I am alive. Well, is the world waking up?

• 1:45:29Christina Pazsitzky?

  But that's the bridge between guys like you and guys like me. The, the, the spiritual, the emotional, uh, artists and like the, do you know, that's what I'm saying. We're the bridge. We're creating the bridge.

• 1:45:44Speaker 02

  Maybe we are. I, I don't know. Talking feels good, but, but here's the deal. I think we are all awake.

• 1:45:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 1:45:52Speaker 02

  No, no, let me make my argument. Let me make my argument.

• 1:45:55Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 1:45:56Speaker 02

  I, I believe in humanity. We are spectacular creatures. We have so much pain because like, by the way, life has pain.

• 1:46:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:46:06Speaker 02

  As you know. And we were born awake. We are awake. What we're doing is we're numbing ourselves. We're awake. All you gotta do is stop numbing yourself. Be okay with pain.

• 1:46:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:23Speaker 02

  Be okay with fear. Be okay with being vulnerable. Be okay.

• 1:46:27Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  Saying what you mean, mean what you say, though. Don't fuck around. Life is short. Don't fuck around.

• 1:46:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:46:32Speaker 02

  You got somebody that you have a riff with? Call them. If they don't pick up, that's on them. You've tried.

• 1:46:41Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:46:42Speaker 02

  Tell them. I, I'm, I'm just saying we're, I don't like these delineations because what happens? You say spiritual. Oh, he's not spiritual. Like, I know you're not saying that, but I'm saying.

• 1:46:52Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:53Speaker 02

  Like, fuck that. You're a human being. You're alive. There, it's like, it's like a racist spiritual thing. You're like, awake.

• 1:46:59Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'm, I'm a spiritual racist. How dare.

• 1:47:01Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Fuck it. Now you're fucking taking the piss out of me. No, no, I know. But I'm, I'm just saying, I'm trying to make a point because I've, I've felt this so long, which is that. So, you know, it's so 1950s, be a racist. You gotta be a real, be a racist, right? So here's the deal. Um, we're human beings. I think we're on a rock that's spinning, I think. Never gone up, haven't been invited up yet to space to check it out.

• 1:47:29Speaker 02

  When people say words like awakening and this sort of thing, it isolates a certain population of people. They feel, well, maybe I'm not awake. Fuck that. Everybody's awake. We are all have pain. This is my personal choice. So, so I'm trying to be inclusive in saying, motherfuckers, nut up and stop being a bitch and stop

• 1:47:51Christina Pazsitzky?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:47:52Speaker 02

  hiding what you're really thinking. Just fucking say it.

• 1:47:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  Just say it.

• 1:47:55Speaker 02

  And if people, your friends don't like it, then you don't gotta be friends with them no more. Like you said, you called the herd. You didn't say those words, but with your fucking friends.

• 1:48:03Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  So I, I'm sorry. That's just, I've been feeling that a lot lately. We are all in this together. Fuck off.

• 1:48:09Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:09Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:48:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  I think you're, I think what you're saying is absolutely right. I don't know that. I think there's a process. Everybody is capable of feeling and experiencing what I did. I'm not saying I'm special. Every human's birthright is to become integrated or awakened. Yes. You're, you're, it is a divine right that you should be happy, that you should do what your jujitsu teacher was saying, like fully experience your being or whatever it is to, to be fully yourself without encroaching on another.

• 1:48:41Speaker 02

  What your experience to make someone else comfortable. Tell them about your fucking orbs. And you did. You went on a worldwide podcast. But I mean, so you're doing it, but I'm saying, you know, speak up. Everybody speak up. If you've had a UFO, UAP experience, speak up. You don't gotta talk to me. Just don't call me. Call everybody else. Just tell them. Don't be fanatical about it. Just tell them. And if you, and if they pick it up and consume it like the fish and they like the fucking sushi.

• 1:49:06Christina Pazsitzky?

  They're in, they're on, they're on our team. And if not, no worries. Don't listen to me. Then they're fine. Not in this lifetime. Next lifetime, you'll pick it up.

• 1:49:13Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 1:49:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  I think there's, I think what I think is happening is we all have consciousness, right? Everybody's conscious to some extent. How much of it we can exercise through the feeling, our feelings is what opens that consciousness. What you're saying. So a lot of us are actually unconscious in a sense of we're numbing. We're avoiding, we're every, most of us.

• 1:49:35Speaker 02

  That to me, I become a, my wife says, okay, Jeremy, you're in robot mode.

• 1:49:39Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of, dissociation. I dissociated for thirty four years.

• 1:49:43Speaker 02

  Been to a therapist since, uh, cause I can't tell them. You know, I hear you have to be honest to a therapist. And I like, if I've heard classified shit, I can't tell them as a jerk, you know, so like I, dude, I would love a therapist, but not a CIA therapist.

• 1:49:56Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 1:49:57Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Somebody that would, anyway, so you're saying, please continue your thought.

• 1:50:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, what I'm saying is, most of us are capable, we are all capable.

• 1:50:05Speaker 02

  Every human being.

• 1:50:07Christina Pazsitzky?

  Every human.

• 1:50:07Speaker 02

  Is capable.

• 1:50:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  Of, of experiencing and feeling.

• 1:50:10Speaker 02

  Being authentic.

• 1:50:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  What I have, absolutely. I'm not special. I'm not different. I just sought it out. I'm a seeker.

• 1:50:17Speaker 02

  You sought it out. So, okay, so but now you haven't answered my question.

• 1:50:20Christina Pazsitzky?

  Sure.

• 1:50:21Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a worm in my brain.

• 1:50:22Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 1:50:23Speaker 02

  And you got an answer, or you don't know is an answer.

• 1:50:25Christina Pazsitzky?

  Okay.

• 1:50:26Speaker 02

  Chicken or egg?

• 1:50:27Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh.

• 1:50:28Speaker 02

  Did your life change because you saw the orbs?

• 1:50:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:50:32Speaker 02

  Or did you see the orbs because your life changed?

• 1:50:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  Both, both, but more of the former. Okay, so hold on.

• 1:50:39Speaker 02

  Explain.

• 1:50:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  My life was always, I've always, like I said, I've been a seeker, but then I hit rock bottom, I see orbs. And I believe, now I believe that there's something bigger out there. Cause I fucking have confirmation that the supernatural is real. I mean, I walk, I couldn't sleep that night. I couldn't, I couldn't go back to living the life I had lived, cause I, I had confirmation.

• 1:51:01Speaker 02

  How long ago?

• 1:51:02Christina Pazsitzky?

  This is in October, last October, in Boca fucking Raton, bitch.

• 1:51:06Speaker 02

  What, how, how did your husband react when you were like, babe, I saw some fucking orbs and I think they're aliens. And, um, so how are you doing? How, how did he react?

• 1:51:16Christina Pazsitzky?

  He knows that I'm wacky and was always like, I believe you, I believe you.

• 1:51:20Speaker 02

  Did you want him to?

• 1:51:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  To see it.

• 1:51:22Speaker 02

  Trust you? Oh, you wanted to see it?

• 1:51:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  So I said, great. We went back home and on our rooftop here in Austin, I go, let me just see if it'll happen here. And it did. And he sat down and he goes, holy shit, it's like a fucking parade. I go, I know. And he's like, but it doesn't, it doesn't affect him.

• 1:51:42Speaker 02

  They weren't in a straight line, right?

• 1:51:43Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, no, they go all every which direction. And he goes, it's a fucking parade.

• 1:51:47Speaker 02

  What, what was his feelings?

• 1:51:49Christina Pazsitzky?

  Not like mine.

• 1:51:50Speaker 02

  Was he was just like, that's fucking cool. I gotta go do a fucking show.

• 1:51:53Christina Pazsitzky?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:51:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:51:54Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's cool. And, and that's why I'm not so affected by it. Like if you don't, it's not your time. Maybe you're not able to have. Maybe they tap into something that you're ready to get.

• 1:52:04Speaker 02

  When you say it's not your time, you make people feel like they're lesser than you.

• 1:52:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  No.

• 1:52:09Speaker 02

  No, no, I'm just trying to tell you what I've experienced for 15 years. So I'm, so I'm trying to make UFOs great again. I can't believe I just said that. I am trying to be a witness to people as a journalist that I have heard tens of thousands of peoples whose lives have been transformed.

• 1:52:31Christina Pazsitzky?

  Thank God, I'm not crazy now.

• 1:52:34Speaker 02

  Well, I didn't, I did not say that.

• 1:52:35Christina Pazsitzky?

  Jeremy Corbell.

• 1:52:36Speaker 02

  I did not say that.

• 1:52:36Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, you tell me there's others. I'm just glad there's others.

• 1:52:39Speaker 02

  There definitely are others, but like, um, like my wife can't give a fuck, buddy. There's a tip jar in our minds for if I say the word UFO. She doesn't give a fuck. She's like, ask me how you're doing. I go for 15 minutes because I'm in like interview mode. And, and, and she's like, no, I ju- I just asked, did you feed the dogs? You know what I mean? It's like, like, like your husband, it's not that it's not his time. It's just, it doesn't matter to him. He's, he's on his path. Yeah, he's doing his thing. It mattered to you.

• 1:53:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  It mattered to me because I asked for it. But I also asked for it. I was broken. I had just gone, I had just experienced the most awful thing in the world. And I asked for, and I think, and I asked for grace, whatever that is in religious terms. And I got that help. So I don't fucking know. There's something about being so, and, and this is, I don't know if that's a common denominator too. And these people with the orbs.

• 1:53:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, a lot of times people are at a point where they let down their guard.

• 1:53:42Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes, that's what it is.

• 1:53:44Speaker 02

  And their boundary. Yeah.

• 1:53:47Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's what it is. It's, it's the, the, the programmed societal ego mind that says, this is for weirdos. You're fucking weird. You can just knuckle, white knuckle through it. Just shut up. Just get on with things.

• 1:53:59Speaker 02

  Which is a survival thing we have to do.

• 1:54:01Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes. And it got me really far for many years. And then I cracked open emotionally.

• 1:54:06Speaker 02

  Happened to me.

• 1:54:07Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, right? And then you go enough, I'm 50 years old. It's now or never. When will I be a fucking human being? I can't do this anymore.

• 1:54:15Speaker 02

  Now imagine what you can do now that you have focus and self-awareness and love in your heart.

• 1:54:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:54:24Speaker 02

  Power.

• 1:54:26Speaker 02

  That's amazing. If we could all get there.

• 1:54:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:54:30Speaker 02

  In our own lives, the world would be a beautiful fucking place.

• 1:54:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  And I think that's the point of these phenomenon. I think that's a lot of this, don't you?

• 1:54:41Speaker 02

  I don't know. As a journalist, I don't know. But I feel that there's an opportunity for that.

• 1:54:50Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:51Speaker 02

  Because I've just talked to too many moms, brothers, sisters, doctors, lawyers, plumbers, carpenters, people from all over the world that tell me that they were changed. So that's why at the end of the movie, when I saw it, I was like, that's it. You got it, kid. The kid Michael. I was like UFOs, because there's like this long talk on making a fire.

• 1:55:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  I know. I love it. I love it. It was so good.

• 1:55:22Speaker 02

  I want to actually say one thing about the movie.

• 1:55:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  It was so good.

• 1:55:24Speaker 02

  Check it out. What I said, if I recall, is that to me, or I don't know if I said to me, but UFOs are just a symbol.

• 1:55:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:34Speaker 02

  There are, there are an opportunity. It's like to remind you. So I'm agreeing with you. I think that they pose an opportunity to be reminded of the mystery of what it means to be born, what it means to live your life. And if we stop thinking about ourselves, and we start thinking about others, and we start thinking about like other people, and we start thinking about what it means to be human, then we realize that we need to live by example. And if we live by example.

• 1:56:08Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yes.

• 1:56:09Speaker 02

  That is the greatest lesson you could ever give anybody you care about is to live what you say with your mouth. And I think that's what UFOs.

• 1:56:19Christina Pazsitzky?

  So much.

• 1:56:20Speaker 02

  I think that's what UFOs are, other than technologically advanced craft that the government has hidden from you.

• 1:56:25Christina Pazsitzky?

  That too.

• 1:56:25Speaker 02

  And the CIA is after everybody that was trying to speak for it, and they've gone after whistleblowers for treason, and they fucking tried to fuck me and fuck George and control us and control our mouths, and fuck you for not wanting the world to know this beautiful, beautiful truth. And sure, maybe there's something scary. Maybe we're a commodity. Maybe it's too big a secret. Don't kick a sleeping dog, Jeremy. You know what? Fuck you. You're not my daddy. I never asked you to be the fucking barrier between me and the natural world. You can suck a dick. Yeah. And I think that's what-

• 1:56:57Christina Pazsitzky?

  Good job, Jeremy Corville.

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  He's like, the booth people clap. Yeah, you make me feel good. Watch out, praise and blame is all the same. All of a sudden gets in my head that you like that.

• 1:57:09Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh, no.

• 1:57:09Speaker 02

  Fuck that.

• 1:57:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  Don't get eye on your own supply.

• 1:57:12Speaker 02

  Oh, dude, come on.

• 1:57:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'm just kidding.

• 1:57:14Speaker 02

  What kind of drug dealer are you if you don't? You gotta test it before you sell it anyway.

• 1:57:18Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yay. No, but I think, I think you're right. Uh, anyway, that was a beautiful way to end this show. I think that you said the, there's nothing more to say after that. You guys watch Sleeping Dog? How do people watch it?

• 1:57:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Great question with their eyes.

• 1:57:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  No, where can they see it?

• 1:57:33Speaker 02

  Where can they, um, like in their room, at home? I'm just fucking, okay, okay, okay, check it out. Um, there is one thing I want to say about it because I haven't said this yet, but, um, and it's important to me. Um, they can watch Sleeping Dog. This kid, Michael Azowski, made a film, uh, Sleeping Dog. And it is about UFOs. And it was to provoke the government. That was the reason. It was to show people the stress and pressure that I was put under by intelligence agencies, private corporations, and also what the whistleblowers have gone through. And you see that all. Um, but what I want to say about the movie, other than I let people in this, because I thought it would be protective for me. That's what he convinced me.

• 1:58:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:14Speaker 02

  Um, cause I don't want to live in fear and I don't want to live under pressure. And I don't want to live in these secret things where, you know, I'm having to have secret meetings in fucking Congress. So I want this all to be out. Whatever it is, I want it to be out. I am just literally doing my best as a journalist with George. What I want to say about the movie is this. At the motherfucking end, I light a fire.

• 1:58:41Speaker 02

  Let's fucking light this shit up.

• 1:58:43Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yep.

• 1:58:43Speaker 02

  There's a song that plays and I just want to say thank you because I've never said this because the movie just came out. Watch it on Amazon, watch it on fucking Apple right now. I'm sure a streamer, if they have any wisdom, you know, we'll see they can make money on it and want to put it out. Right now, we just put it on Amazon and Apple. Everybody can get it. At the end of the movie, there's a song and it's by a guy named Ben, Ben Schneider. People know him as Lord Huron. He is an amazing human being. He has this incredible wife. He has, I'll just say offspring. I don't know how personal I want to get, but he essentially

• 1:59:25Speaker 02

  fought to allow me to include a song at the end of the movie and I'm going to butcher this, but I believe it's, um, "Life is Strange."

• 1:59:34Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, can I tell you that? I actually listened to it and I was like, that's a really great song. I hate everything.

• 1:59:40Speaker 02

  Motherfucking Huron.

• 1:59:41Christina Pazsitzky?

  Oh my God, it was so touching. I was like, that's a really perfect song to end this movie on.

• 1:59:46Speaker 02

  You just wait. Uh, so, so Michael put that in because he became a fan because George Knapp was friends with Ben and then George has been dragging me for 15 years to learn about music because I'm musically retarded. My wife says stunted, but I say retarded. We're like that. Um, we're going to go see Lord Huron on 6/2, June 2 at the Santa Barbara Bowl.

• 2:00:12Speaker 02

  And I know I'm not supposed to say where I'm going to be in time series, but that's, I'm so excited. So that's what I wanted to say about the movie, other than watch it and it's a very serious subject. It is funny. It looks like a horror movie and there's this beautiful song and it's by this guy Ben and I've never thanked him yet. So I'm publicly trying to thank that motherfucker.

• 2:00:30Christina Pazsitzky?

  Thank you.

• 2:00:30Speaker 02

  Because that, that song meant a lot to me.

• 2:00:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  Well, I just want to thank you for all the work that you've done on all of this and I think you're

• 2:00:37Speaker 02

  My pleasure.

• 2:00:38Christina Pazsitzky?

  pushing humanity into its next iteration, very necessary.

• 2:00:42Speaker 02

  Don't blame me for that.

• 2:00:43Christina Pazsitzky?

  We're out of the, uh, we're getting out of the old 1950s mentality.

• 2:00:47Speaker 02

  We better because it's 2026, last I heard.

• 2:00:50Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah, it's so fucking boring. And I think, I think the public is ready to, the kids are ready. I don't think anybody is like-

• 2:00:56Speaker 02

  Oh, they're completely ready. Are you kidding me?

• 2:00:58Christina Pazsitzky?

  Who is freaked out. What are you talking about?

• 2:01:00Speaker 02

  Nobody's freaked out.

• 2:01:00Christina Pazsitzky?

  Nobody cares.

• 2:01:01Speaker 02

  No. And, and in fact, it's, it's inspiring. It's like the new, you know, when like atomic physics became a thing and all these people wanted to be nerds and study atomic physics? We need more Americans, um, you know, studying the cutting, bleeding edge stuff.

• 2:01:14Christina Pazsitzky?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:14Speaker 02

  And I think UAP should be in every high school. Um, just the known facts, like no, just the known facts. Like what are the pilot reports say?

• 2:01:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  Learning about?

• 2:01:22Speaker 02

  Right. What are we learning about now?

• 2:01:24Christina Pazsitzky?

  That's so silly.

• 2:01:24Speaker 02

  I do actually, we need to end on something because your podcast is probably coming out soon.

• 2:01:31Speaker 02

  For the first time in human history, a president has, man, I'm not a political person, but first time in human history, a president said, release files. Okay. So what files? So they gave us like a trove of them. There's more coming really soon, by the way, really soon. Sleeping Dog provokes, because I show eight videos that are military filmed. They have to release those eight, but there's 46 Congress asked. I gave them the file names and they publicly put it out on Twitter. Here are the file names. Those 46 videos better be released to the American public so that they can assess their value and validity.

• 2:02:16Speaker 02

  And I was promised by Congress and they publicly put a photo up with the new director of Arrow. And they said, we are copacetic now, bitch. Let's fucking go. That was not their tweet, but it was good. So I want to end your podcast because it probably comes out soon.

• 2:02:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  June 3rd.

• 2:02:34Speaker 02

  What day is it? How long is that?

• 2:02:35Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't even know what year it is.

• 2:02:37Speaker 02

  May? Are we in May?

• 2:02:38Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's 1500s.

• 2:02:39Speaker 02

  Is it May now?

• 2:02:40Christina Pazsitzky?

  It's May 21st.

• 2:02:41Speaker 02

  So how long till June 3rd? It's like two weeks from now. Okay, so, hey, government,

• 2:02:52Speaker 02

  you better release those forty-six files. They're coming out, come hell or high water, and that's just the start. Then, you need to tell people about reverse engineering, and biologics, and beings, and autopsies, and maybe even agreements. That's how I want to end this podcast with you.

• 2:03:11Christina Pazsitzky?

  Agreements.

• 2:03:12Speaker 02

  And I'm so glad we fucking found that.

• 2:03:13Christina Pazsitzky?

  I love you. Come back again. Let's do this soon.

• 2:03:15Speaker 02

  Every time I'm in Austin, I'm gonna be bombing you, be like,

• 2:03:17Christina Pazsitzky?

  Hell, yeah, dude.

• 2:03:18Speaker 02

  Why are you sending me so many videos and non?

• 2:03:21Christina Pazsitzky?

  I like.

• 2:03:22Speaker 02

  And Duncan, fuck you.

• 2:03:23Christina Pazsitzky?

  I love you. I love you. Thank you so much, Jeremy. You're the best. Sleeping Dog, out now. Watch it. Okay, I love you. Bye, mommies.

• 2:03:29Speaker 02

  Bye, mommies. Your mama's house.

• 2:03:32Christina Pazsitzky?

  You're welcome.

• 2:03:32Speaker 05

  Ding ding, motherfucker. Don't fuckin' play real games with me. I asked you what your fuckin' name is, motherfucker? Like, when's Chief gonna be in?

• 2:03:45Speaker 05

  What's your name, man? What's your operator number?

• 2:03:50Christina Pazsitzky?

  Twenty-nine.

• 2:03:52Speaker 05

  What's so hard about that? What'd you pause for?

• 2:03:56Speaker 05

  What's she so scared about? This is Conald Peterson, okay? Huh?

• 2:04:04Christina Pazsitzky?

  Conald Peterson.

• 2:04:05Speaker 05

  Conald, C-O-N-A-L-D, Peterson. What's your name?

• 2:04:10Christina Pazsitzky?

  I'm Sheriff.

• 2:04:11Speaker 05

  I'm calling about murder, buddy, okay? Hospital murder. Hospital murder. I'm calling about murder, buddy, okay? Hospital murder. Hospital murder. I want to know what happened to that retarded kid. Do you know anything about a kid that was mentally challenged and retarded that got murdered? I'm sorry, sir. Pardon? I'm having a child here. Do you want to answer the phone? Why don't you stick the phone up to your ear and try to listen, okay?

• 2:04:37Christina Pazsitzky?

  I don't care.

• 2:04:38Speaker 05

  Okay, do and do what? Because, uh, the whole world's gonna hear this. What's your name anyways? You don't need to know my name. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna get your name in about three seconds, okay? After I call the state patrol, we're gonna track your name, okay? How you doing, Sheriff? What's your name, buddy?

• 2:04:55Speaker 05

  Ding ding!

• 2:04:58Speaker 05

  Okay, and I think the talk's clear enough to I'm not gonna put you on the name of a baby rapist on your blog and go up a YouTube site around your name, okay? You gonna give me your name, buddy? Oh yeah? You're gonna do this, huh?

• 2:05:14Speaker 05

  You're going on the net as a baby rapier after I get your name now, buddy, okay? Okay, sir.

• 2:05:22Speaker 05

  But what's your name, buddy? Don't be scared to get your name.

• 2:05:28Speaker 05

  You don't need to know my name. Oh yeah, I'm gonna get your name in about three seconds.

• 2:05:34Speaker 05

  I'm calling about murder, buddy, okay? Hospital murder. Hospital murder. I'm calling about murder, buddy, okay? Hospital murder. Hospital murder. I wanna know what happened to that retarded kid.