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• 2:26Speaker 01

  Sup, Gigglers? Carrie, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 2:40Hannah Berner?

  We are at our new studio.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It, yeah, I guess it is a studio.

• 2:45Hannah Berner?

  It's not, it's decorated in my style right now, but we will be changing it. But check us out on YouTube.

• 2:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, honestly, because too many people were going to our studio, we didn't feel safe.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We didn't feel safe.

• 2:56Paige DeSorbo?

  There was one time where there was three straight men in there, like, talking logistics. And I was like, this is Giggly Squad.

• 3:02Hannah Berner?

  No, and we need to hold space for giggling, and men take that space.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you remember that time? And I was like, well, we can't start the pod if there's three men here. It's not safe.

• 3:12Hannah Berner?

  But we just sat there and they're like, are you guys gonna start? And we're like, when you leave.

• 3:15Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I literally got nervous. I was like, I can't talk my shit.

• 3:18Hannah Berner?

  Or when the UOPS guy came in and I was like, we will wait. We'll wait.

• 3:23Paige DeSorbo?

  You were that teacher. You were the substitute teacher.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  I'll wait.

• 3:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I hated when teachers did that. I would get so frustrated.

• 3:33Hannah Berner?

  I feel like all your memories from school were difficult.

• 3:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's not talk about them.

• 3:37Hannah Berner?

  Let's not talk about it. You guys, happy beginning of the week. Um, I have so much shit to say.

• 3:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like you watched a lot of things over Thanksgiving.

• 3:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 3:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I watched some Hannah things just to be able to speak to you.

• 3:53Hannah Berner?

  I love that. You're like, just to argue.

• 3:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Just to fit in.

• 3:56Hannah Berner?

  I do have to announce, I did get my period on day two.

• 4:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Congrats.

• 4:00Hannah Berner?

  When you're not on birth control, day two is like, heavy.

• 4:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Monstrous.

• 4:04Hannah Berner?

  Monstrous, like, sitting down is uncomfortable.

• 4:07Paige DeSorbo?

  We're fully synced up, like, we're fully, we're one person.

• 4:09Hannah Berner?

  We're one person now. And it's funny, because you wrote, "I can't do tampons."

• 4:13Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 4:13Hannah Berner?

  Is, have, is your vagina too wide or too small?

• 4:19Hannah Berner?

  The canal.

• 4:19Paige DeSorbo?

  How dare you. I feel like I've said this before, I can't do tampons anymore, but I'm always doing it like the first three days, because I'm not.

• 4:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 4:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not a monster.

• 4:28Hannah Berner?

  You can't just free bleed.

• 4:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I can't just like free.

• 4:30Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna say you. I was gonna say you have to go to work, but you don't. But you can't free bleed on your.

• 4:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't free bleed.

• 4:34Hannah Berner?

  With Daphne, Daphne's white.

• 4:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, guess what? I free bleed now. I can't, I actually can't even do it on the first day. Like, I know that it's in there and I can sense it. And I can almost feel my body like being like, get out.

• 4:47Hannah Berner?

  That's exactly how I feel about thongs.

• 4:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, interesting.

• 4:52Hannah Berner?

  Have we come to an understanding?

• 4:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I think we have. Because I'm just not.

• 4:56Hannah Berner?

  The second I wear a thong, I'm like, take it off. I could feel it. I'm in a conversation and I'm like, do you know there's something up my butthole?

• 5:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And because I drink so much of my Stanley, I'm constantly peeing. So I'm like, I'm not changing my tampon every time I pee. And I'm one of those people that has to do that.

• 5:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 5:13Paige DeSorbo?

  And so now I'm just like, oh, I'll put toilet paper in there. Like, I'm not, I can't do it.

• 5:17Hannah Berner?

  I'm proud of you for setting boundaries and holding space in your pussy for something else besides a tampon. I do have to say one thing about our friendship is you make me better aesthetically.

• 5:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Hmm.

• 5:28Hannah Berner?

  Because one thing about tour is like, I have to show up and at least show that I tried.

• 5:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:33Hannah Berner?

  Like, that's, I feel like, our understanding. Like, you will not be upset if you saw that I put in an effort.

• 5:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:38Hannah Berner?

  So after.

• 5:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you were late today and I was like, where's Hannah? And then Grace goes, she's Dyson air wrapping your hair. And I go, give her a minute.

• 5:47Hannah Berner?

  You go, let her take as long as she needs.

• 5:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Let her cook.

• 5:50Hannah Berner?

  Let her cook. Let that motherfucker cook. So.

• 5:54Paige DeSorbo?

  This is also the middle of the night for us. It's 10 a.m.

• 5:57Hannah Berner?

  It's 10 a.m. Also, in the, so we've been on tour, which is chaos.

• 6:02Paige DeSorbo?

  It was our last week.

• 6:03Hannah Berner?

  Our last week of 2024.

• 6:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I loved the Giggler so much. Cannot wait for it to be done.

• 6:09Hannah Berner?

  It's not done because we keep adding. You guys, we're adding, don't worry. But it's done for 2024. But you don't have time when you come back from tour to like, do normal things. So it hit me last week.

• 6:20Paige DeSorbo?

  What are normal things?

• 6:23Hannah Berner?

  Getting

• 6:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Talking to your family.

• 6:25Hannah Berner?

  Talking to family, drinking water. No, but I had like a self-care chaos day. I had to get lasered because the one rule of lasering is if you don't do it the next month.

• 6:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like a waste, yeah.

• 6:37Hannah Berner?

  So I get my laser, I got my hair did and I got my nails did.

• 6:42Paige DeSorbo?

  All in one day?

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  All in one day. It was chaos.

• 6:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my gosh. You did all of that yesterday?

• 6:47Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 6:48Hannah Berner?

  But I got my period. So I like, I'm so excited to get lasered and I just look her in the eye and I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like, I'm corked right now.

• 6:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:57Hannah Berner?

  And if something comes out, like it's a waterfall. And she was like, it's totally fine.

• 7:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they don't care about that. Except for you, did it hurt more? Like, I can't, I actually can't get laser when I have my period.

• 7:11Hannah Berner?

  I feel like I'm dealing with so much emotional pain day to day. The physical pain is a, is freedom for me.

• 7:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Because it does make you like more sensitive.

• 7:22Hannah Berner?

  I've never said reprieve, reprieve on the podcast, but it was a reprieve.

• 7:25Paige DeSorbo?

  It felt good.

• 7:26Hannah Berner?

  I was, I love the pain of lasering.

• 7:29Paige DeSorbo?

  What are your areas?

• 7:30Hannah Berner?

  As you said, eyebrows down.

• 7:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you?

• 7:32Hannah Berner?

  Eyebrows fucking down.

• 7:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So you're doing your underarms?

• 7:35Hannah Berner?

  Well, because I'm married to an Irishman who is a dolphin.

• 7:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and probably has blonde hair anyway, so it doesn't matter.

• 7:40Hannah Berner?

  Literally doesn't have hair on his legs. Like stunning.

• 7:45Paige DeSorbo?

  That's crazy. So you're doing underarms, legs, belly button. Are you doing full vagina or you're just doing like bikini?

• 7:54Hannah Berner?

  Full vagina.

• 7:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, wow. Oh, she's here for a while.

• 7:57Hannah Berner?

  She's here for four hours. She moves it. She, she's paying rent.

• 8:04Hannah Berner?

  And we, I know everything about her. But we talked about, we have, we have a nail girl.

• 8:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 8:11Hannah Berner?

  Shout out, she's the best.

• 8:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Nail girl, her name is Jacqueline.

• 8:14Hannah Berner?

  What we're obsessed about her is that she does not care to speak to us.

• 8:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually prefers to not speak.

• 8:21Hannah Berner?

  And what's so funny is we're on the road a lot to like, we have the same conversation a thousand times. Like, you get in the Uber and you're like, I don't want to talk about what we're doing. And like, you get to the hotel, you don't have the same conversation. Like, we actually, me and you, don't like chatting. We're not chatters.

• 8:37Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we're not yappers. Some would assume we are yapping all the time. We're not.

• 8:42Hannah Berner?

  We're not. And that's the one thing, you know, when your mom was like, I'm surprised you're friends with Hannah? I've been thinking about that. That's kept me up at night.

• 8:52Hannah Berner?

  Because we laughed and then I went home and I got sad. And I said, what did she mean by that? What did she mean by that? When I realized.

• 9:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No one could act like you and me be okay with it. It's only you.

• 9:06Hannah Berner?

  No, but this is the thing. I'm not out here just like chatting, talking to talk.

• 9:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Talking to me.

• 9:12Hannah Berner?

  I'm not coming up to you like saying, I'm asking questions when I feel appropriate.

• 9:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:17Hannah Berner?

  That's the one thing, if I was a yapper, you couldn't, you wouldn't be able to handle me.

• 9:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, when you're speaking, you have things to say that are important.

• 9:23Hannah Berner?

  Hmm, I wouldn't say that. That's a reach. I just think, you know, some people are like, I need to just like, take up air with stories. At least I'm making jokes.

• 9:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yesterday I had Jacqueline over at my apartment. Obviously Daphne can't speak, but like in my head she can. And then I was getting my Christmas tree delivered. For like thirty minutes, there were three grown adults in my home. Not a word was said. Not a single word was said.

• 9:50Hannah Berner?

  So this is the funny thing about us. I don't want to talk.

• 9:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 9:54Hannah Berner?

  But when I can sense someone doesn't want to talk to me.

• 9:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:58Hannah Berner?

  Then you're like, interesting. I want to talk. So I'm sitting there with Jacqueline because we, we got both got our nails done yesterday.

• 10:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 10:05Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, I'm gonna get her to want to talk to me. And, but it was, it's like a cat.

• 10:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 10:11Hannah Berner?

  You can't force it. You have to look like you don't want to talk to them.

• 10:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:15Hannah Berner?

  An hour in, she looked at me and she said, how was your Thanksgiving? And I said, it feels good to win.

• 10:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, there's something with Jacqueline where I feel like she abides by like HIPAA laws.

• 10:24Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 10:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Because like when she's at your house and then she comes to mine, I'm always like, oh, you were with Hannah. Like just to see what she says. And then I'm like, would she get on her nails? And she was like, almost like didn't tell me. She was like, oh, she um, I was like, tell me what she did.

• 10:38Hannah Berner?

  Well, because, because I'm her favorite right now.

• 10:40Paige DeSorbo?

  She was like, she did pink with a little chrome. And I said, oh. That's so interesting.

• 10:46Hannah Berner?

  So she also, like, we don't have, we do have a fun relationship, me and Jacqueline. I would hope she would say that.

• 10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I like the way you say her name.

• 10:54Hannah Berner?

  Jacqueline.

• 10:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Jacqueline.

• 10:56Hannah Berner?

  A Jacqueline.

• 10:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, she's on a jack-o'-lantern.

• 10:59Hannah Berner?

  She's from Queens, so like, we get each other, because Des is from Queens. Anyway, when she was leaving, my initial thing to do was to like, fuck with you. So I wanted to be like, can you tell Paige that like, my knuckles are smaller than hers? Or something, and but I just felt like our relationship wasn't there yet. Because she would be like, no, and then I'd put her in an awkward, and I don't want to ever put Jacqueline in an awkward position. But so badly, I was like, what is something she could say that would like, fuck with Paige?

• 11:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that was good. No, we should start doing more pranks and have Jacqueline be in the middle, because she'd really not like it.

• 11:34Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of hair, oh, I did get my, um, the top of my feet lasered as well.

• 11:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, wow.

• 11:40Hannah Berner?

  So men, obviously, have been doing like horrible things for the last thousand years, centuries, centuries.

• 11:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Hannah Berner?

  Jacob Elordi was the last one.

• 11:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so glad you're bringing this up.

• 11:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's hold space.

• 12:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, typically, I'm into facial hair, because a lot of men are ugly.

• 12:06Hannah Berner?

  Well, now you're bringing me to my point about beards, which I'm fucking right.

• 12:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:11Hannah Berner?

  This is what I have to say about beards. If you're an ugly man.

• 12:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 12:15Hannah Berner?

  This is my beard.

• 12:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And so many of them are.

• 12:17Hannah Berner?

  As most of them are. This is my beard theory. If you're an ugly man, you get a beard, then you become a bearded man.

• 12:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:22Hannah Berner?

  And a bearded man.

• 12:23Paige DeSorbo?

  And you've gone up automatically three points.

• 12:25Hannah Berner?

  You're a man with a beard. You look like you could fix something.

• 12:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:28Hannah Berner?

  It, it makes, it's like makeup for men. It's contour for men.

• 12:31Paige DeSorbo?

  It's makeup for men.

• 12:32Hannah Berner?

  It gives you a little bit, you're, you're a man with a beard, and girls could get by that.

• 12:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. We've come up with a story because of your beard. We've made you more interesting in our head, because you have a beard. And what's he hiding in there?

• 12:45Hannah Berner?

  Exactly. You can hide your secret family, your seventeen chins, a snack. You could hide whatever you want on that beard, and you've become a bearded man, and we can perceive that, and that's okay with us. Jacob fucking O Lordy. And you have a jawline and you have a je ne sais quoi to your face. When you get a beard, you then go down to just a bearded man and you lose the magic. When you have a fucking jawline, do not get a big beard. Also with the long hair, I know it's.

• 13:12Paige DeSorbo?

  A little like, oh, is it?

• 13:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm just saying that because I think when guys do something for a role, I'm okay with it. Because it's for work, because it means they're like working. And I like when they're busy.

• 13:25Paige DeSorbo?

  It had like a reddish tint to it.

• 13:27Hannah Berner?

  Oh, like a copper cowgirl.

• 13:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah burner red, a little bit on the sides.

• 13:34Hannah Berner?

  I don't know what this person looks like, but this is what I envisioned. He looks like he looked like Teddy Mellencamp. No, John Mellencamp, Teddy Mellencamp's dad. That's.

• 13:41Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't know what John Mellencamp looks like. Neither do I. Who am I to say?

• 13:44Hannah Berner?

  But that's what I think.

• 13:47Hannah Berner?

  In the seventies, that's what John Mellencamp.

• 13:50Hannah Berner?

  And Chris doesn't have his computer, but we're gonna put it underneath and see if I was accurate or not.

• 13:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna say no, but maybe, who am I?

• 13:57Hannah Berner?

  Hall and Oates. He looks like Hall and Oates. I don't know what Hall and Oates looks like. Mom, did he look, my mom is here.

• 14:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like in the seventies, everyone had.

• 14:08Hannah Berner?

  So what are the girls to do?

• 14:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I was upset by it.

• 14:10Hannah Berner?

  The comments were so funny. They were like, this is the moment we realize he was just tall.

• 14:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I was upset by it, but then I took a step back and I said, sometimes I cut a bob. And I just go off and I'm like, and today I have really short hair. Maybe. He is also just like, and you, I want, I've been wanting to try a beard and I'm gonna try it.

• 14:32Hannah Berner?

  But this is the thing, when you cut a, cut a bob, it's a religious, cultural experience. It is incredible and.

• 14:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Him growing a beard is just.

• 14:40Hannah Berner?

  You're emphasizing your jawline. He's taking away, he's covering something.

• 14:43Paige DeSorbo?

  What do you think his girlfriend felt? I'm sure she likes it.

• 14:48Hannah Berner?

  What do you think about your boyfriend or girlfriend having opinions on your like hair?

• 14:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it's okay for girls and it's not okay for.

• 14:57Hannah Berner?

  Agreed. No, agreed. So Dez made a joke and he was like, I kind of like your natural hair better. Like I didn't marry a redhead. And I was like, how do I say in?

• 15:08Paige DeSorbo?

  But this is

• 15:10Hannah Berner?

  How do I say I don't care?

• 15:11Paige DeSorbo?

  feels like your natural color.

• 15:12Hannah Berner?

  That's what I told him. Also, this is why I know he's lying. He didn't know I was red until I told him it was red.

• 15:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 15:19Hannah Berner?

  Cause he's straight.

• 15:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Like if we put all your different hair colors in a lineup.

• 15:23Hannah Berner?

  He wouldn't be able to, he's, he's colorblind. He doesn't know.

• 15:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Is he actually?

• 15:27Hannah Berner?

  No, but I, all men are colorblind. That's a fact. That's a fact.

• 15:31Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why they can't be pilots.

• 15:33Hannah Berner?

  That's why. Wait, can we talk about how we, oh wait, we already talked about it, but I'm still shooketh. From when we landed and then just went back up.

• 15:41Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that was scary. That was really scary.

• 15:44Hannah Berner?

  Jack Harlow.

• 15:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, that's what I wanted to talk about next.

• 15:49Hannah Berner?

  So my mom is here, who's a jazz singer. Mom, you had opinions.

• 15:53Paige DeSorbo?

  On Jack Harlow singing Elvis? He could.

• 15:57Hannah Berner?

  She said he couldn't sing.

• 15:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, see, this is why.

• 16:02Paige DeSorbo?

  This is why men are so good at tricking us because I thought like, oh my God, he's so good at it.

• 16:07Hannah Berner?

  This is the thing. It's the bare minimum and it's so right. Imagine like, of like Ice Spice.

• 16:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 16:13Hannah Berner?

  Singing jazz. She would have been critiqued insanely. Ice Spice, if you can, go for it.

• 16:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Like if she tried to sing like Whitney Houston.

• 16:23Hannah Berner?

  Well, if she just went on stage, yeah, and tried to sing, everyone would be like, she can't sing. And I don't even know what she sounds like, but it wouldn't be critiqued. That man, oh, he, he has a good tone. I would like, I like his tone, but I don't think he was hitting notes. Like opposite of me. I hit notes, don't have a tone.

• 16:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not even musically inclined enough to know, except for you, when something sounds bad.

• 16:45Hannah Berner?

  Did we start the battle cry challenge or was that happening?

• 16:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't even know what you're talking about.

• 16:52Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's trying to hit the note on TikTok now.

• 16:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I truly feel like we started that. Did you see Sabrina Carpenter do it? And she was almost like surprised that she did it?

• 17:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it was adorable. It was adorable. Also, apparently Sabrina and Barry broke up.

• 17:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Good.

• 17:08Hannah Berner?

  As they should.

• 17:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I wasn't really into them as a couple anyway.

• 17:11Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no.

• 17:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I was in the beginning for like the first week and then I was over it.

• 17:15Hannah Berner?

  When your first love song about him is about, don't embarrass me, you know where it's going.

• 17:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Here's the thing about Jack Harlow. I'm like kind of off him.

• 17:23Hannah Berner?

  Why?

• 17:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I just like, I've been really taking into account like men's ages. And anything under my age, I'm like, you're a fetus.

• 17:33Hannah Berner?

  Mm hmm.

• 17:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't even exist in the world. Do you even, have you ever paid taxes?

• 17:37Hannah Berner?

  I was talking, no, I know. I was talking about how there's a certain age you hit. As a woman, where it starts being fun again to be with a young guy. Because it's like, you're like, oh, I could boss him around and teach him stuff and like, everything's new to him.

• 17:52Paige DeSorbo?

  What age is that?

• 17:53Hannah Berner?

  I think when I hit, when Dez dies, or when I'm around forty.

• 17:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Eight?

• 18:01Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna say like forty four.

• 18:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 18:02Hannah Berner?

  Then it's like.

• 18:03Paige DeSorbo?

  That's actually amazing because I feel like that will coincide with our facelifts.

• 18:07Hannah Berner?

  Yes, but then I'm upset if Dez will never see my facelift.

• 18:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he'll be there in spirit.

• 18:13Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 18:15Paige DeSorbo?

  He's gonna be alive in ten years.

• 18:20Paige DeSorbo?

  If I was Dez and I listened to us, I'd be so mad. We make him eighty five.

• 18:24Hannah Berner?

  I feel like occasionally he does listen to Giggly Squad, but he doesn't tell me. Like, he doesn't check in every now and then to just make sure we haven't gone too far. I think he's just like, needs to know the temperature.

• 18:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Are the girls okay?

• 18:36Hannah Berner?

  Are the girls okay? If we're talking about men, which we are, this is my note. I wrote John Summit, question mark, question mark, question mark. I don't get what's going on.

• 18:46Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't know who it is?

• 18:48Hannah Berner?

  No, I know who it is, but I don't understand the lore.

• 18:52Paige DeSorbo?

  What is the lore? All I know is that he.

• 18:54Hannah Berner?

  First of all, he's a DJ.

• 18:55Paige DeSorbo?

  He's a DJ, but he's an example of someone that like, he made me feel old, even though I think we're actually like the same age. Because on TikTok.

• 19:04Hannah Berner?

  He's in his thirties.

• 19:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I think so. It felt like everyone knew who John Summit was and like, John Summit's been famous for years.

• 19:12Hannah Berner?

  It feels like everyone knows who John Summit is, except John Summit.

• 19:15Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think he believes his own hype too.

• 19:18Hannah Berner?

  Well, this is my thing. I support men in the arts. Is he like an insanely talented DJ?

• 19:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I could never tell if someone was an insanely talented DJ or not.

• 19:27Hannah Berner?

  Has there ever been an insanely talented DJ?

• 19:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's the question. I'm like, I.

• 19:30Hannah Berner?

  I understand if you're like making your own beats, but if you're literally just playing the most popular songs back to back.

• 19:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And like putting them together.

• 19:37Hannah Berner?

  My cat can do that.

• 19:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 19:39Hannah Berner?

  I mean, if it's a girl DJ, obviously she's talented, but boy DJs. Boys, music's not for boys.

• 19:45Paige DeSorbo?

  No, this is so funny you say that because every time I see Zandra come up on my TikTok and she's doing something, I'm like, I've never met this. I've never met her, but I'm so proud of her.

• 19:56Hannah Berner?

  Also, girl DJs are cool. They're like girl stand ups because you know that they have to deal with like the men late at night. And they're like, excuse me, I'm trying to make stuff.

• 20:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm trying to do my art.

• 20:05Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 20:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:06Hannah Berner?

  But I do have to say, um, John Summit, I know that like he had like a thing with Ashton Earl or whatever. And if that's what's giving him like popularity, then I'm more upset. Cause I don't want guys to be empowered because they were associated with a cool girl once.

• 20:24Paige DeSorbo?

  You could just say, I don't want guys to be empowered.

• 20:26Hannah Berner?

  I don't want his career being lifted because he.

• 20:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't.

• 20:30Hannah Berner?

  She let him touch him.

• 20:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not sure if it, I'm sure obviously like people found out who he was more because of her, but I don't think. I think it was mutual.

• 20:41Hannah Berner?

  And also right now I'm doing it. Like I'm giving John Summit more attention.

• 20:45Paige DeSorbo?

  You're giving him a platform.

• 20:46Hannah Berner?

  I'm giving him a platform and like for all I know.

• 20:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You're giving him a seat at this flower table.

• 20:51Hannah Berner?

  For all I know, he's the sweetest man ever. I'm just saying, what are we missing?

• 20:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:55Hannah Berner?

  Where's Grace?

• 20:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not sure.

• 20:57Hannah Berner?

  Cause she's of that age. Grace?

• 21:00Paige DeSorbo?

  She quit.

• 21:01Hannah Berner?

  She's working. She's like, I'm working. Someone has to work in this business.

• 21:05Paige DeSorbo?

  No, here's what I don't want. I don't want a man in Vegas.

• 21:09Hannah Berner?

  He could use a beard.

• 21:10Paige DeSorbo?

  John should get a beard.

• 21:11Hannah Berner?

  That is the man that needs a beard.

• 21:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't ever want a man to be in Vegas and posting Instagram stories about how much fun he's having in Vegas, ever. No matter what your profession is.

• 21:23Hannah Berner?

  What are you overcompensating for if you're having fun in Vegas?

• 21:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You could be hired by the city of Las Vegas to talk about how great Las Vegas is.

• 21:30Hannah Berner?

  Swipe up, Las Vegas.

• 21:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm still upset.

• 21:32Hannah Berner?

  Wait, do you remember swipe ups?

• 21:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Sad.

• 21:35Hannah Berner?

  Rest in peace.

• 21:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Swipe up.

• 21:37Hannah Berner?

  I'm just, I'm sorry. Like I've. Like, for example, Benson Boone.

• 21:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Who the fuck is that?

• 21:43Hannah Berner?

  Benson Boone is the guy at the VMAs that jumped off the piano and did a backflip and hit the note.

• 21:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, let me say one thing. You know, like, when you were younger and you would say something and your parents like would be like, "I have no idea what that is." And you'd be like, "Oh, my God, they just like, don't..."

• 22:01Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was always really scared to get to that age of like where I was like, "I don't know what the kids are talking about." I love it. I actively love. I feel better than people.

• 22:14Hannah Berner?

  Maybe that's why I'm coming for Jon Summit, because I don't get it and it's making me feel old.

• 22:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Being in a group of people talking about a celebrity or a pop star and me coming in and being like, "I have no idea who you're talking about." I feel better than all those people. I'm like, "Sorry, I'm in the real world."

• 22:32Hannah Berner?

  Tell me when you're talking about Whitney, Justin, or Nelly, okay?

• 22:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Doing important, real-world things. I don't have time for your made-up celebrities. Also, let's talk about how Gen Z has just, like, they make up celebrities.

• 22:45Hannah Berner?

  Well, everyone's famous in Gen Z culture.

• 22:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone's famous in Gen Z. Everyone can get canceled in Gen Z. Everyone, like, they have no...

• 22:52Hannah Berner?

  No one's safe from anything.

• 22:53Paige DeSorbo?

  They have no structure. They have no hierarchy. That's their problem. They have no A-list celebrities, B-list celebrities, C-list. Like, there's no structure to Gen Z celebrityism and it's...

• 23:05Hannah Berner?

  It gives you whiplash. It gives you whiplash.

• 23:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone has the same name. Gracie Abrams, that's the same name as someone else. I've known about her, but it's not her. Like, do you know what I mean? Gracie Abrams and Jon Summit, same person. Same person. And I'm like, "Who are either of them?" We don't know.

• 23:26Hannah Berner?

  They are. Well, can someone message in? Because like, I don't want to completely bash, like, a man trying to do his best and working, even though it's in Vegas and whatever he's doing. What is the reason? What is the reason?

• 23:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, no, DJs, I've definitely... Shout out to DJs because they've really taken a profession that everyone is shit on for so many years.

• 23:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And stuck to it. And they've doubled down and they've stuck with it.

• 23:53Hannah Berner?

  My personal thing with DJs is I dated a jazz musician. As we all know, Jazzy John, back in the day.

• 24:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Who could forget him?

• 24:01Hannah Berner?

  One of my first loves, one of my many first loves. And he would go to restaurants for three hours and perform jazz. When I say perform jazz, I mean, you have an instrument that you've been training for years to play. And you're riffing, like jazz is like, he's just listening to what the people, I don't even know what he's doing, but he's he's making it up on the spot. Like they, they're going on so, it's incredible. And they're getting paid a hundred dollars. Then you have DJs who are pressing a button for three hours. And getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. There's just a discrepancy there that I felt bad, like we went to a party in the Hamptons.

• 24:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:39Hannah Berner?

  And he was standing there and the guy was just like playing off his laptop. And he was like, that guy's probably getting paid like five, ten thousand dollars tonight.

• 24:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Should we do a DJ lesson?

• 24:49Hannah Berner?

  Maybe, I mean, I, I could do it right now.

• 24:56Hannah Berner?

  I mean, I do have to say shout out to my playlist. It's basically the annoying friend who wants the aux cord all the time. Who thinks their music, to be a DJ, you have to be delusional. That you think your music taste, people should pay for it.

• 25:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Where it's just like, you just took the top one hundred songs from a specific year and you put them all together.

• 25:16Hannah Berner?

  Also, like you're playing music that other people made.

• 25:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, well, that's the big thing. That would be like if at Giggly Squad, we went on stage and we just said a bunch of jokes that other people have made. But we put them together really well.

• 25:29Hannah Berner?

  No, we went on Netflix, cut up a bunch of Netflix specials that aren't ours and just played them on TV. And was like, this was funny, right?

• 25:40Hannah Berner?

  And I understand.

• 25:41Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so true.

• 25:43Hannah Berner?

  I understand DJs like to party and they like to be out there and they like to feel like they're bringing energy, but you fist bumping is not bringing energy.

• 25:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, here's the thing that why we also don't connect with DJs is because I would assume that all DJs get energy from other people. Like that fills their cup up.

• 26:01Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna be honest.

• 26:01Paige DeSorbo?

  We couldn't be more opposite of that.

• 26:03Hannah Berner?

  They're getting energy from drugs.

• 26:07Hannah Berner?

  They're pushers. They push people.

• 26:10Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, my son's at 2 a.m. Nothing good happens at 2 a.m.

• 26:15Hannah Berner?

  So it's the holiday season and I'm running out of inspiration to get cool, fun, beautiful gifts for the holidays. And this happens every year. But now I have Pinterest. And I'm so excited to do a little searching and a little shopping in this special segment presented by Pinterest and Acast Creative.

• 26:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I'm a true millennial. Like, I've been obsessed with Pinterest since the day that it came out. I've never found inspo the way I can find it on Pinterest. And now that I live in like my dream apartment and it's so gorgeous, I'm always looking for holiday decor inspo. And I have like seven different trees saved that I'm like, I have to recreate all of them and it's so hard to pick. But it truly does give you like the most unique inspiration and I have so many boards for so many years. Pinterest truly does have the best gift guides and they're so unique.

• 27:07Hannah Berner?

  Also their search bar and algorithm, like we're women in STEM, it's so good because I'll be like, something very specific, I'll be like, what do I get for my brother who's outdoorsy but also likes expensive things and is from New York? And like, it'll give me inspiration. I hate when people get you like stereotypical gifts, like, oh, like you're an aunt, you'll like the shirt that says aunt on it. Like, give me something that makes you feel like you know who I am. And I'm guilty too of giving people uninspirational gifts because I waited last second, I clicked the first thing that came up and that's why I love Pinterest gift guides. Some examples of their gift guides that I love is like, 50 gifts for your mom that you'll high key want for yourself. That's my favorite gift when you give it to your mom, but you know you're probably gonna

• 27:52Hannah Berner?

  use it or she'll eventually give it to you.

• 27:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like that's everything I buy for my mom.

• 27:57Hannah Berner?

  They also have a holiday guide for the homebody, a holiday guide for the wellness enthusiast.

• 28:02Paige DeSorbo?

  What about a pet gift guide? I feel like they definitely have like a good pet one.

• 28:07Hannah Berner?

  They definitely do. They also have one that's just like French inspired.

• 28:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed.

• 28:12Hannah Berner?

  And you can shop from these guides? Like you literally just click on them?

• 28:16Paige DeSorbo?

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• 31:05Hannah Berner?

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• 31:09Paige DeSorbo?

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• 31:22Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I do need to do a shout out for talking about influencers. This girl posted the funniest TikTok that was basically like how influencers, I'm totally fine if you have a bad breakup with your boyfriend. But if you've been pushing down people's throats, how perfect and amazing your relationship is to make people jealous for even two months. I don't give a fuck.

• 31:51Paige DeSorbo?

  About your 50 part series?

• 31:52Hannah Berner?

  About your 50 part series because you tried to, I'm about to do a 50 part series about how you inflicted pain on me.

• 31:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you gaslit me.

• 31:59Hannah Berner?

  If you gaslit me and pretended your relationship was perfect, because I'm fine if you're lying to yourself, don't lie to everyone.

• 32:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:06Hannah Berner?

  Lie to yourself, you're trying to make other people feel bad by posting you guys making out in a picnic and then commenting. If you're commenting on each other's post romantic things, like I'm sorry. Seek help. But also like when y'all break up, I know people are like, tell us what happened. Actually, I know. No.

• 32:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I'm such an advocate of like not posting your boyfriend on your own social media.

• 32:31Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 32:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Because one day you guys are gonna break up. Sorry.

• 32:33Hannah Berner?

  It's basically like the friend who like sits down and she's like, tries to make you jealous every day about how cute her boyfriend is.

• 32:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a one-upper.

• 32:40Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and then the next day she's like, you know, he treated me like absolute shit the whole time. You're like, I like, I hold space for that and I feel bad.

• 32:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that holding space has become such a freaking thing now.

• 32:52Hannah Berner?

  I hold space for that. It's different when it's like a friend and it's like a personal thing, but when you've been using your relationship. I do like that you monetize it and use it for likes, but when you're using it to make other girls feel bad about their relationship. And then you want them to hold space for you that you've been lying the whole time. Let's start off with apology.

• 33:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 33:11Hannah Berner?

  Let's apologize for the lying. Also, let's stop lying.

• 33:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 33:16Hannah Berner?

  You trying to make your relationship look good on Instagram for other people hurts them and hurts you.

• 33:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Just don't post it in general.

• 33:24Hannah Berner?

  You can post it, but post the fighting. Post the fight. Post and be like, we, he, I hate this man.

• 33:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, no.

• 33:33Hannah Berner?

  It's just there's, then or not is lies.

• 33:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's a lot of emotional drama that like, you're not privy to and you have to like get in the headspace of like, oh, and now we hate this man. Because I'm about to watch thirty parts of like, the worst things ever. So it's a lot of admin for us. Because I'm like, well, yesterday we were like obsessed, we were waiting for you to get engaged and now we're like, we hate him. So it's a lot of catch up.

• 33:57Hannah Berner?

  I'm also not supportive of the Gen Z trend of, I'm trying to go viral.

• 34:02Paige DeSorbo?

  For your own people.

• 34:03Hannah Berner?

  No, I have to call them out because they, they don't have more mature people in their life who've messed up in this capacity. Don't try to get attention from.

• 34:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Rage bait?

• 34:14Hannah Berner?

  Don't rage bait people. Don't try to be like, okay, this is gonna go viral because I'm gonna say something so fucked up a guy's done to me. Guys have done very fucked up things to me. I don't need to say it in public.

• 34:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:25Hannah Berner?

  Because I don't need that attention.

• 34:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I think we're in a, we're in an area where becoming viral is like proving a conspiracy theory. Or like proving something that like everyone once loved is actually really bad.

• 34:40Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 34:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like it's like finding some like hidden truth.

• 34:43Hannah Berner?

  Fear mongering.

• 34:44Paige DeSorbo?

  It's fear mongering. I don't like the word mongering.

• 34:47Hannah Berner?

  I know. What is a monger?

• 34:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It makes me uncomfortable.

• 34:50Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna go mong.

• 34:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't love it. Um, so yeah, I agree. And it's like really stressful. Like there was a girl like making a TikTok about like some club in New York City and it was just like, it was the worst club and it was actually sex trap. And I was like, oh my God, I think I've gone to that club. Is that really what was happening?

• 35:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 35:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And then people like commenting being like, what are you talking about? Like it just closed down. Like it's not like some secret. So it's just like so many different.

• 35:18Hannah Berner?

  Let's go back to the simple of like the energy you put out in the world is the energy you get back. Whatever happened to like when a guy fucks with you, you give him nothing.

• 35:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Ham on his car. Like whatever happened to that? Whatever happened to?

• 35:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You've never heard that if you put, is it ham or baloney?

• 35:37Hannah Berner?

  Like you throw it?

• 35:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Put baloney on a car, it takes the pain off. I've never done it, but I've heard.

• 35:45Hannah Berner?

  I love when Chris goes to his phone to be like, what the fuck are they talking? Is that some Italian mafia thing?

• 35:52Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think like girls like talked about it in high school. Eggs?

• 35:56Hannah Berner?

  Eggs? How do you know that?

• 35:59Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a ham and cheese sandwich.

• 36:00Hannah Berner?

  You were gone. Why do people like John Summit? She was like, don't get me involved in that.

• 36:06Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like HR.

• 36:07Hannah Berner?

  HR. But, um.

• 36:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Grace has been begging for HR on this. On tour and we're just like, no.

• 36:14Hannah Berner?

  Whatever happened to like, you find out a guy's an asshole and you go, okay, he now has no access to me. And I'm never talking to him again and he can't fuck with me and he's not a part of my life. And he could watch me go be more successful than him. What happened to that?

• 36:29Paige DeSorbo?

  What happened to silence?

• 36:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly. What happened to everyone just, I don't know, shutting the fuck up?

• 36:37Hannah Berner?

  There's this comedian named, I believe it's Dana, Dana Donnelly. Yep. She's hilarious and I sent her video to Ken Urick.

• 36:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed with Ken.

• 36:50Hannah Berner?

  Cause I felt like Ken needed, I'm like Ken's older sister, um, that she didn't ask for.

• 36:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Anything Kennedy does, I'm like, I'm just going through something.

• 37:00Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so she goes, Dana's the opposite. She goes, tell everyone any, everything all the time. So you're never a target for blackmail. And I feel like that's how Ken Yuric lives his life.

• 37:12Paige DeSorbo?

  There was a moment, wait, actually, I think this is like when I became obsessed with Kennedy. This is years ago. Someone was trying to blackmail her, like in 2020. And I remember her making a TikTok being like, you're not blackmailing me. This is what it was.

• 37:26Hannah Berner?

  This is what I did.

• 37:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And I remember being like, oh my God. I can't believe blackmail is a real thing.

• 37:32Hannah Berner?

  One thing I do stand by, and I've, one thing about me, I will say, I've made mistakes. I've never lied.

• 37:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:40Hannah Berner?

  I've never not told the truth. Call me crazy.

• 37:42Paige DeSorbo?

  If I don't owe you anything, I'll lie right to your face.

• 37:46Hannah Berner?

  So this is the thing with, with saying everything on the internet is yes, no one could blackmail you, but.

• 37:55Hannah Berner?

  I will cause. What cause?

• 37:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, some of the things that some girls say on the internet, I'm like, you'd have to waterboard. You would have to physically hold me down.

• 38:10Hannah Berner?

  You're so right.

• 38:11Paige DeSorbo?

  To get that information out of this little body, you'd have to torture me.

• 38:16Hannah Berner?

  But that's where the internet's fucked up right now because half the internet is lying.

• 38:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:21Hannah Berner?

  And pretending there's something or not. The other internet is telling too much.

• 38:24Paige DeSorbo?

  It's too much.

• 38:25Hannah Berner?

  It's too much. So we have to find a happy medium again because the internet is full of lies and too much and people exposing themselves.

• 38:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Love and light and like not being ashamed of who you are. Some people should have a, a small percentage of shame. Just like a little baby bit of shame and what's the other word I'm looking for? Self-respect.

• 38:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Bring it back. Bring back self-respect.

• 38:56Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I'm, speaking of babies, my mom, who's in the room, actually told me the most insane IVF story.

• 39:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 39:05Hannah Berner?

  It was on the New York Times.

• 39:06Paige DeSorbo?

  The real New York Times.

• 39:08Hannah Berner?

  When my mom sends it from the New York Times, it's a real New York Times.

• 39:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Written article from the New York Times.

• 39:11Hannah Berner?

  A written article. So. This couple does IVF, gets their baby, and their baby's perfect. Basically, a couple weeks in, they're like.

• 39:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Brand new, fresh baby.

• 39:25Hannah Berner?

  Fresh, it's fresh.

• 39:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Out of the womb. She carried it? She's pregnant. Okay.

• 39:30Hannah Berner?

  A couple weeks in, they're like, that's an Asian baby.

• 39:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop.

• 39:35Hannah Berner?

  Like, at first, they were like, they didn't know, and then they were like, that is an Asian baby. Now, there's nothing wrong with Asian babies, unless.

• 39:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You, in fact, are not Asian.

• 39:45Hannah Berner?

  Aren't Asian. They were Spanish and Italian. Italian and Jewish.

• 39:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Jewish, okay.

• 39:51Hannah Berner?

  With an Asian baby. And they love this baby, but they're like.

• 39:55Paige DeSorbo?

  This is not our baby.

• 39:56Hannah Berner?

  This is not our baby. So they go to the adoption agency. No, not adoption. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm fine. Sorry, because my mom's here, listening to me retell the story she told me, I can't do it. Like, you know, when someone's like, I feel.

• 40:06Paige DeSorbo?

  You're at school. You're at school right now. You're taking a test.

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  I'm so scared right now.

• 40:10Paige DeSorbo?

  How was your listening comprehension? Not good?

• 40:12Hannah Berner?

  She shook her head before it started.

• 40:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she's like, no, not this story.

• 40:15Hannah Berner?

  So she goes to the IVF people.

• 40:16Paige DeSorbo?

  She could never be on Giggly Squad, because Giggly Squad is built on misinformation.

• 40:21Hannah Berner?

  We are spreading fear mongering lore.

• 40:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Lies.

• 40:25Hannah Berner?

  Lies. So they go to, I don't even know what an IVF, what, the clinic.

• 40:30Paige DeSorbo?

  A facility?

• 40:30Hannah Berner?

  A facility.

• 40:31Paige DeSorbo?

  If you will.

• 40:32Hannah Berner?

  A, a house.

• 40:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 40:33Hannah Berner?

  Of IVF.

• 40:36Hannah Berner?

  As a product.

• 40:42Paige DeSorbo?

  The couture, house of IVF, the atelier, house of IVF. There's one in Beres. They're building one in Italy.

• 40:51Hannah Berner?

  And Milan, obviously. I went to IVF Week in Amsterdam, but not get invited to Tokyo.

• 40:58Paige DeSorbo?

  IVF Week is.

• 40:59Hannah Berner?

  IVF Week.

• 41:00Paige DeSorbo?

  So hard to get into.

• 41:01Hannah Berner?

  This is our future. So they go to IVF, the IVF place.

• 41:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 41:06Hannah Berner?

  And they were like, I don't, my baby's Asian.

• 41:10Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, look what you've done.

• 41:11Hannah Berner?

  They go, that's crazy, because there's another couple that just came in, who's Asian, and their baby has red hair.

• 41:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:19Hannah Berner?

  And look, there's, there's, we're not, there's no judgment going around.

• 41:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:24Hannah Berner?

  But they were like, something's off because the other people had red hair.

• 41:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 41:28Hannah Berner?

  Right? So they're heartbroken because they find out these two families are 10 minutes away from each other.

• 41:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. How, how long have they had each baby?

• 41:39Hannah Berner?

  Two months.

• 41:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Two months.

• 41:40Hannah Berner?

  So they.

• 41:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, wait, wait. Sorry. Question for the mom in the room. Can you breastfeed a baby that's not yours? Yes. Oh.

• 41:47Hannah Berner?

  Do you know back then, communities would like communally nurse? Like they'd be like, we have kids and the moms take care of the kids. Like, I'm gonna nurse your baby.

• 41:59Paige DeSorbo?

  You're not.

• 42:01Hannah Berner?

  Wait, imagine the baby, imagine the baby was like, not my brand.

• 42:07Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, you're always eating salty things.

• 42:10Hannah Berner?

  No, the baby's like, did you have Mexican food last night?

• 42:15Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I mean, it probably differs a little, but no, all the babies can eat.

• 42:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay.

• 42:20Hannah Berner?

  So babies are eating, you're, you're fucking connected to this baby.

• 42:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:24Hannah Berner?

  So the, at first they're like, oh, our bad.

• 42:27Paige DeSorbo?

  The IVF place.

• 42:28Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, they're like, we're gonna start doing the legal things to switch it back. Because you can't just immediately switch it back, right? So, because they legally owned those babies, right?

• 42:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no, I'm knocking on that door and being like, cookie exchange.

• 42:43Hannah Berner?

  No, but it's the thing, it wasn't a cookie exchange because they felt, they each felt so connected to their babies. So it was very hard.

• 42:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my god.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  So they, because imagine, imagine you have Daphne for two weeks.

• 42:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, I knew you had to put it in my perspective.

• 42:59Hannah Berner?

  That's actually the baby that I.

• 43:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Was supposed to have.

• 43:02Hannah Berner?

  And they were, they're like, that's, we got it wrong.

• 43:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm now.

• 43:06Hannah Berner?

  That's my baby.

• 43:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm learning Asian culture. I'm doing the things.

• 43:11Hannah Berner?

  So they decide to do this kind of co-parenting thing where like every day they see the babies to like.

• 43:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that's unsustainable.

• 43:21Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, so after a couple of years.

• 43:25Hannah Berner?

  It was, it's been like five years and now. Oh yeah, there's older siblings. They had to be like your, your younger brothers, not your younger brother.

• 43:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So now respective children live in like their biological homes.

• 43:38Hannah Berner?

  Now they see each other weekly, but like it's crazy because we're not moms. So we don't know that initial phase, but like the nights you spend with this baby. Also, like, I don't know how that person's been raising my baby.

• 43:50Paige DeSorbo?

  This is so off brand. I really wonder, what were the dads doing?

• 43:55Hannah Berner?

  Nothing.

• 43:56Paige DeSorbo?

  What were the dads in this situation?

• 43:59Hannah Berner?

  Apparently, apparently the dads were distraught.

• 44:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Because it had to have been both moms were like looking at like each baby one night and we're just like, I don't think.

• 44:07Hannah Berner?

  The dads definitely didn't notice, or they did and they were like, what Asian man were you fucking?

• 44:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, yeah, I'm surprised there wasn't more

• 44:16Hannah Berner?

  Drama.

• 44:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Drama like discourse. Imagine like someone was just like, I did cheat on you. And it's just like, not a thing, whatever. Um, I wonder if they're gonna tell, how they're gonna tell the kids

• 44:31Paige DeSorbo?

  what happened, like when they're old enough to like comprehend it.

• 44:32Hannah Berner?

  So this is the crazy thing and I'm not trying to fear monger.

• 44:35Paige DeSorbo?

  We're obsessed with fear mongering.

• 44:37Hannah Berner?

  Apparently this happens all the time, but the only time people know is when it's a different race.

• 44:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I have to hold space for that.

• 44:46Paige DeSorbo?

  That I wonder truly how often that happens.

• 44:49Hannah Berner?

  Well, apparently there's like not a lot of regulation.

• 44:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Well, I have always heard when you give birth, like, you know, when they take your baby to like clean it up or all the stuff that like you do not let it go by itself.

• 45:01Hannah Berner?

  Because they fumble it.

• 45:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 45:02Hannah Berner?

  Because they, all babies look the same.

• 45:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a feeling because like manifesting like when we have our own.

• 45:10Hannah Berner?

  They're gonna switch our babies at birth?

• 45:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 45:13Paige DeSorbo?

  When we are ready to have babies, I just have this feeling that like, we're also gonna be in labor at the same time. And so like, we're gonna rent like a house type situation.

• 45:24Hannah Berner?

  It's not the real world.

• 45:26Paige DeSorbo?

  To have them and the doctors will come to us and it'll be like a makeshift ho- hospital.

• 45:31Hannah Berner?

  It's not a laser girl that comes to your home.

• 45:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I want it to be private. I want it to be the equivalent of flying private when I give birth. Like, I don't want anyone around.

• 45:41Hannah Berner?

  Are you gonna have a surrogate?

• 45:42Paige DeSorbo?

  No, not like initially, but if I had to at some point have a surrogate, I would.

• 45:50Hannah Berner?

  Grace is dying laughing. This is, I heard the first one's the hardest, though. I feel like after the first one, the rest just like drop out of your pussy.

• 45:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I wanna carry at least one.

• 45:59Hannah Berner?

  Just for the experience, just for experience.

• 46:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Just for the experience, but then I feel like, how do you say?

• 46:03Hannah Berner?

  For the culture.

• 46:03Paige DeSorbo?

  How do you say to like that kid that you didn't carry, like, yeah, I was over it?

• 46:08Hannah Berner?

  You go mommy?

• 46:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry.

• 46:10Hannah Berner?

  Mommy did enough. I also, I personally, people will be like, actually, no one's asked me, but if someone did and was like, are you afraid of like having a baby? I know in my heart of hearts, I'm going to shoot that baby out of my pussy.

• 46:23Paige DeSorbo?

  You're gonna be so good at having a baby.

• 46:25Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm gonna do it like, people are afraid doing it in the cab, I'm doing it in the cab.

• 46:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 46:29Hannah Berner?

  I'm literally gonna be like, huh! I'm gonna use all my quads.

• 46:33Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think you're gonna be so good at giving birth.

• 46:36Hannah Berner?

  Thank you. Thank you. Like, you know when I was like, oh, it took me nineteen hours?

• 46:41Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 46:42Hannah Berner?

  Nineteen minutes. I'm gonna be competitive about it.

• 46:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You're gonna be in there being like, this has gotta be some type of record.

• 46:48Hannah Berner?

  I do.

• 46:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You're gonna make people look up statistics and stats.

• 46:52Hannah Berner?

  I wanna be the Alona mayor of having a baby.

• 46:56Paige DeSorbo?

  You're gonna be looking up people's times. You're like, mm, I beat you.

• 47:00Hannah Berner?

  Also, you know, some girls are like demure about everything, like how they eat and like how they laugh. I feel like some girls try to be demure having a baby.

• 47:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Giving birth, like getting their makeup done.

• 47:09Hannah Berner?

  They have makeup done, they're lying there, like their husband's in the room and they're like, oh, I'm pushing, mm. I'm literally gonna be like, whoa!

• 47:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, two things that I think are off-brand for me. Well, one, not so much. First thing, don't want my husband in the room. See ya. Get out of here. I, I really don't.

• 47:26Hannah Berner?

  I want him to see my pain. I want him to lock eyes with me the entire time.

• 47:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I, I don't want him there.

• 47:32Hannah Berner?

  Feel my soul and the struggle I'm going through.

• 47:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I only want my mom.

• 47:36Hannah Berner?

  Well, yes. Mom, did you have dad in the room?

• 47:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know my mom didn't have my dad in the room?

• 47:43Hannah Berner?

  It was like a connecting thing. Did you let him see it come out? And that's two types of girls.

• 47:52Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom.

• 47:54Hannah Berner?

  Cause you guilt tripped him. He thought you were like a superhero.

• 47:57Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom did it in such a giggly squad coded way. She, they never put you under to have a C-section. They put her under. They're like, why don't you take a nap? You're annoying.

• 48:09Paige DeSorbo?

  But no, she was like really sick. So she was like put under when they took me out.

• 48:12Hannah Berner?

  She was sick.

• 48:13Paige DeSorbo?

  And I feel like.

• 48:14Hannah Berner?

  She was like, uh, uh, I'm sick.

• 48:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like that's so me. Like I had no idea what was going on. And then all of a sudden they just like lifted me out and I was like, this is fine. That's truly who I am at my core.

• 48:28Hannah Berner?

  When they.

• 48:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Like there was no stress on me from my own birth. Like I wasn't crying. I wasn't like fighting my way out. Like I was literally lifted out, laid in a different spot. And I was like,

• 48:39Hannah Berner?

  Yes. See, I probably had like a weird head angle because it came out weird and there was just like stuff. They did try to put a hat on me and I immediately started freaking out.

• 48:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, I'm not into accessorizing.

• 48:49Hannah Berner?

  I was like, I'm not wearing this hat. I like got my fingers stuck up. They called me like, didn't they call me crazy animal?

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• 50:32Hannah Berner?

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• 50:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I watched Substance over the weekend.

• 50:53Hannah Berner?

  Do you need to hold space?

• 50:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I want nothing to do with it. I'm not holding space. I'm not like-

• 50:58Hannah Berner?

  You hated it.

• 50:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I hated it.

• 51:00Hannah Berner?

  It was artsy.

• 51:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I hated it.

• 51:02Hannah Berner?

  Tell me everything. What are your thoughts?

• 51:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed with Demi Moore. I love her. I'm obsessed with Margaret Qualley. I think they're great actresses. I'm really surprised that two really huge names signed on to do this movie because I thought the story of it, very different, very like so pertinent to like our life and culture. I just felt like it took a turn into like a horror movie that I was not expecting it. I thought it was gonna be a little more nuanced of like, first of all, you know how you have like your delusions of like you're a Michelin star chef, you're like a pop star, you can do all these things.

• 51:42Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Not delusions.

• 51:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry.

• 51:47Paige DeSorbo?

  They had no lines. I could have been an Oscar award-winning actress in that movie. They had no lines. They didn't talk. It was facial expressions. It was, I just felt like it could have gone more, like made you really think, which I think it did, but I just wasn't expecting it to be as gory as it was. And I can't watch, I really can't watch stuff like that.

• 52:14Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. It was, it's funny, I liked it because it was so unrealistic gory. Like, I can't watch realistic, like, those war movies when they're like cutting off someone's arm, I'm out. I'm out. Like a second they put a leather strip and someone's like, I'm out. What? You know they make them bite down on stuff because they're like removing like someone's limb, I'm out. I'm out. I know the silence. I'm out.

• 52:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Classic torture, yeah.

• 52:36Hannah Berner?

  Classic torture. But when it's so unrealistic, I'm like, this is kind of funny.

• 52:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, like, she got out of her body. Like, it was just too much.

• 52:43Hannah Berner?

  I feel like it was the kind of thing where like, it was missing something. Like, I wanted a little more. And, but apparently people either love it or like despise it.

• 52:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I honestly, I felt the same way with, what's the other one everyone loved? The Jacob

• 52:58Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 52:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I love Saltburn.

• 53:00Hannah Berner?

  I loved it, even though it was ultimately about um just what men will do for real estate.

• 53:05Paige DeSorbo?

  My TV and movie taste, I like it girly and like pretty.

• 53:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, well, I'm happy that you even did the substance.

• 53:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, everyone wanted to watch it and I was like, I feel like it is.

• 53:16Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 53:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I do love Demi Moore. I haven't seen, I feel like I haven't like watched Demi Moore in like a lot of movies.

• 53:22Hannah Berner?

  The the interesting thing is like she's beautiful in it.

• 53:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Gorgeous.

• 53:25Hannah Berner?

  And I guess some of the like lessons from the movie was first like it could always be worse.

• 53:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 53:33Hannah Berner?

  Which I hate that. To be like, oh, yeah, your life sucks. Well, it could be worse. It never made me feel better.

• 53:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 53:40Hannah Berner?

  Then the concept of like, would you rather look weird but not old?

• 53:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 53:47Hannah Berner?

  Or look just old?

• 53:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I think it like the ultimate message, which I don't, I feel like it came across for women because we just like always experience this. But like truly, when you hit a certain age or a certain part of your life, like you really are a second thought as like a woman.

• 54:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like people will say you you're like invisible, like you don't get noticed, which sounds so peaceful.

• 54:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, truly.

• 54:11Hannah Berner?

  Every time you walk outside, you're not like trying to like not get kidnapped.

• 54:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't wait. I feel like I'm always, people are always going to try and kidnap me.

• 54:19Hannah Berner?

  Even though you've never been kidnapped once.

• 54:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but I've had some close calls. I've had some close calls.

• 54:24Hannah Berner?

  No, but they're just like you said earlier about how like you love that you don't know what like the pop culture is right now sometimes.

• 54:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 54:31Hannah Berner?

  There's like a peacefulness of getting older where you're like, I don't need to be in this like rat race you guys are in of like comparing and popularity and whatever. There's like a beautifulness.

• 54:41Paige DeSorbo?

  But like Demi Moore in the movie was like sad about it, you know, like she is just like thought of differently, which I get that. Because I feel the same way, even being in our early thirties, like, once you get married or once you have a baby, like people think of you differently.

• 54:55Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm literally so scared. Once you start getting pregnant and stuff, it's like then you are this, you're just like this.

• 55:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're supposed to like have it all together. You're supposed to be more mature.

• 55:06Hannah Berner?

  And also as performers, like touring and if I want to be in movies or something, like you're pregnant.

• 55:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 55:13Hannah Berner?

  Like, not to bring back the movie, but it's like, I can't let you in the club, bitch, you're pregnant. I would fuck the shit out of you. But you old and pregnant.

• 55:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect example, like, you can't come to the club anymore, you're a mom.

• 55:25Hannah Berner?

  You're beautiful, but bitch, you're pregnant.

• 55:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, then it's, that's, that's like, it's like sad, kind of. Um, okay, next thing I want to talk about, did you see, this was like, I, I don't know, maybe because I'm rewatching Gossip Girl, so I'm like, so in that mindset. Did you see Chris Martin and Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter, Apple, make her debut? Like, such Blair Waldorf debutante ball, it looked like a movie.

• 55:49Hannah Berner?

  So it was a debutante ball, first of all, second of all, I didn't know that was legal.

• 55:52Paige DeSorbo?

  A debutante ball?

• 55:53Hannah Berner?

  I thought we'd moved on from debutante balls. But I understand there's like high society things that are happening.

• 56:01Paige DeSorbo?

  With a debutante ball.

• 56:02Hannah Berner?

  I didn't even know it was a thing.

• 56:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not quite sure exactly what it is. It's literally telling the world you're a woman.

• 56:08Hannah Berner?

  Which, not necessary.

• 56:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't air my business.

• 56:13Hannah Berner?

  I also love that none of the, the boys that were there were also socialites, but no one gave them attention.

• 56:18Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so crazy you say that, didn't see one of them.

• 56:20Hannah Berner?

  There's, it was like, boys and girls, I think. But it, there's something creepy about it, I think it's creepy.

• 56:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew you would say that, but there's something, I like it because there's some, I love like a period piece. So there's something like, I'm watching it as like fiction.

• 56:36Hannah Berner?

  See, I see it as like, these girls that have so much for them, but you're like, she's pretty and she's ready to get married one day. Girls used to get married off at sixteen.

• 56:45Paige DeSorbo?

  At nine.

• 56:46Hannah Berner?

  Why?

• 56:48Hannah Berner?

  Why are we celebrating this culture? Why are we celebrating that?

• 56:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I just liked watching, looking at their dresses.

• 56:53Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, they could wear dresses whenever they want, it doesn't have to be a debutante ball, where the parents are like, look at my daughter, who's, who's had her period for a couple of years now and is finally ready to, and has, and has her boobs grew.

• 57:06Paige DeSorbo?

  When your daughter comes to me because she really wants to be in the debutante ball and you're not letting her.

• 57:11Hannah Berner?

  Do not go to, yeah.

• 57:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Secretly sign her up for the debutante ball.

• 57:15Hannah Berner?

  Well, she has to be more of an nepo baby to get into the debutante ball. It's also literally just a nepo baby party.

• 57:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. They need a space where they feel safe.

• 57:25Hannah Berner?

  They need, you know what? If that's their space.

• 57:29Paige DeSorbo?

  They need a space.

• 57:30Hannah Berner?

  Let them have their space.

• 57:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And let it be in a castle in Paris, you know, that's where they've chosen to have their space.

• 57:36Hannah Berner?

  I wanna see a nepo baby, like Survivor episode. Like, I don't wanna see all the nepo babies.

• 57:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm surprised there's not some type of TV show where it's like, let's round up all the nepo babies. Let's talk to them, see what they're doing, see what's going on.

• 57:49Hannah Berner?

  I don't wanna see the nepo babies at a debutante ball that their parents all paid for. I wanna see them trying to survive on an island with no food or.

• 57:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I want the drama in the nepo baby world. What nepo babies don't like? Other nepo babies? What's like the hierarchy of nepo babies? Like, are they like, you're just like a famous doctor's daughter? Like, we don't care. I'm Brad Pitt's son. Like, you know, like, I wanna know what their drama is.

• 58:15Hannah Berner?

  But you know what nepo babies I feel a little bad for? Not to be controversial right now. But with the society of like, one day celebrities are cool, the next day they're canceled, the next day they're the greatest, the next day they're the worst. Like, as a nepo baby, like, for example, like Johnny Depp.

• 58:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 58:34Hannah Berner?

  Like, he's the greatest of all time. And Lily Rose is like the shit. And then like, he's in this horrible trial. And like, she didn't ask for that, but then she has to deal with the repercussions of that.

• 58:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:46Hannah Berner?

  Or like, these old guys who say something stupid. And it's like, you have to be associated with your dad.

• 58:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. But think about like, okay, if your mom was famous and someone was coming at her, you would be like, and now I'll kill you.

• 59:00Hannah Berner?

  Well, it is kind of like.

• 59:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, you would defend, you would be fine to be in it because you're like, I'm gonna defend my mom.

• 59:07Hannah Berner?

  Olivia Jade's another example of like nepo baby. It's not her fault.

• 59:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, it's not her fault.

• 59:14Hannah Berner?

  That her mom won't, that she was dumb.

• 59:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed with Olivia Jade and I'm obsessed with Aunt Becky.

• 59:18Hannah Berner?

  Who's Aunt Becky?

• 59:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Olivia Jade's mom.

• 59:21Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I didn't really watch Full House.

• 59:24Paige DeSorbo?

  What did you do on Friday nights when it was TGIF?

• 59:26Hannah Berner?

  How old were you?

• 59:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, when we were in middle school. It was like Boy Meets World, Full House.

• 59:30Hannah Berner?

  I was going and renting like a movie from like, a local.

• 59:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like Blockbuster?

• 59:35Hannah Berner?

  No, we didn't have Blockbuster in Park Slope. We had like small businesses.

• 59:39Paige DeSorbo?

  When you were younger, what was the, when you would go to the run to movie?

• 59:42Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 59:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, you'd go through a phase where you'd run the same movie every single time. What was like yours?

• 59:46Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my God. Good question.

• 59:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Space Jam. You seem like a Space Jam girl.

• 59:49Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I love Space Jam. We also watched like Power Rangers.

• 59:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I like went through a Spice Girls phase.

• 59:55Hannah Berner?

  I, I did like Spice Girls. Power Rangers, like.

• 59:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:59Hannah Berner?

  That was cool.

• 59:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, the pink one.

• 1:00:00Hannah Berner?

  I'm, I'm kind of blanking. I realized I like blacked out my childhood in that moment. I have some documentary updates. Are you okay? Cause they're like really intense.

• 1:00:10Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm okay. Are you gonna start with the JonBenet Ramsey one?

• 1:00:13Hannah Berner?

  I wasn't going to, but let's do it.

• 1:00:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I want you to because I don't wanna watch it.

• 1:00:17Hannah Berner?

  Okay. Yeah. No, perfect. You don't have to.

• 1:00:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, great.

• 1:00:19Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so the crazy thing with JonBenet Ramsey is that there's not actually a good documentary out about her recently. So I was very excited when this came out.

• 1:00:30Hannah Berner?

  What we're learning in this society is everything we watch, all the media we consume is biased. And it's by someone who's trying to get you to think a type of way. So we have to be smart when we're being fed information.

• 1:00:44Paige DeSorbo?

  We have to ask questions.

• 1:00:45Hannah Berner?

  We have to ask questions. So the documentary, the dad was in it the whole time.

• 1:00:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Talking.

• 1:00:51Hannah Berner?

  Talking. And.

• 1:00:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Is he still married to the mom?

• 1:00:54Hannah Berner?

  She's dead.

• 1:00:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 1:00:56Hannah Berner?

  Of cancer.

• 1:00:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, recently?

• 1:00:59Hannah Berner?

  Not recently.

• 1:00:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:01:00Hannah Berner?

  But, um, they basically didn't bring up that it was ever the brother. Like, it wasn't even brought up that it was the brother. And they leaned into it was a, an intruder. And as someone who doesn't know the case that much, I was like, okay, obviously it's an intruder. And they just made it sound like the police the whole time were like, it's the parents, cause they like, you know, when police decide something and then they don't wanna look stupid. But then this guy kept, like, the DNA wasn't matching anyone. The point that I was like, can we recheck the DNA?

• 1:01:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, why aren't they doing that?

• 1:01:33Hannah Berner?

  Finding people being like, it's this person, it's that person. There was. Foreign semen of a man, which is why I'm confused.

• 1:01:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I don't mean to laugh because it's not funny. But the phrase foreign semen is not.

• 1:01:48Hannah Berner?

  No, who's foreign semen is it? And I feel like in DNA days, I'm like, let's figure it out.

• 1:01:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, it's not like this happened in the seventies, like.

• 1:01:57Hannah Berner?

  No, I know.

• 1:01:58Paige DeSorbo?

  They could run the DNA. They could run it then. Like, I don't get it.

• 1:02:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but they basically like so many people they've thrown in and the DNA doesn't match to the point that I'm like, I've seen enough documentaries. Someone's DNA needs to fucking match. And then they, there were like ropes and there's, there's so many things that DNA could have been on. And I'm like, what's going on? It feels like someone's being covered for some, I don't know. But anyway, you watch it and you're like, okay, it was definitely an intruder and they just don't know who the intruder was. And there's all these crazy guys that call in and go, it was me. Cause they're like these pedophiles that are obsessed with JonBenet, like they have shrines of her and stuff. Cause she's, it's like a thing. And people are like, you're a pedophile, but you didn't murder JonBenet Ramsey. So don't try to like get famous off it.

• 1:02:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God, that's disgusting.

• 1:02:43Hannah Berner?

  It's disgusting. So I watch it and I'm like, okay, it was an intruder. They never found it. Like definitely an intruder. Then of course I'm on TikTok.

• 1:02:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:51Hannah Berner?

  And they were like, it had to be the brother and they covered it up.

• 1:02:56Paige DeSorbo?

  The only thing that I saw that like, is how she had eaten right before she went to bed.

• 1:03:04Hannah Berner?

  The pineapple.

• 1:03:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:05Hannah Berner?

  Which also like, what a weird. Pineapple and milk.

• 1:03:07Paige DeSorbo?

  What a weird.

• 1:03:08Hannah Berner?

  Which that's where the law was broken.

• 1:03:11Paige DeSorbo?

  After that, I was calling the police after that.

• 1:03:14Hannah Berner?

  The police were immediately called. Who in there? Right? Have some ice cream like a normal human.

• 1:03:20Paige DeSorbo?

  That's crazy. Here's a very controversial, but like the only thing I can think of. Because obviously like this has been so many years and like she's dead.

• 1:03:32Paige DeSorbo?

  If you found out that one of your children killed the other child, aren't you covering it up for them though?

• 1:03:40Hannah Berner?

  Yes, but also like whatever happened to just being like a horrible accident took place and like.

• 1:03:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, maybe they obviously knew it wasn't a horrible accident. Like if my son kills my daughter, oh my God, don't even like say that. I'm I'm gonna cover for him. Like I'm gonna try and not lose my second child. And that may be the wrong answer, but like instinctually, that's just like where I what I.

• 1:04:07Hannah Berner?

  The reason the brother kind of makes sense is because if you're gonna break into a house, you're not gonna sit down with a pad of paper that they pulled from the house and write a three-page letter.

• 1:04:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you're also not.

• 1:04:21Hannah Berner?

  Getting the fuck out of the house.

• 1:04:23Paige DeSorbo?

  You're also not stay. Yeah, you're not staying that long.

• 1:04:27Hannah Berner?

  It was found in her, like the mom's pad. Like he took a page out of the mom's pad, the person who wrote whoever it is. They did say that this also could be totally wrong because this was a TikTok. But they said that like she'd been at the hospital multiple times because like Burke was aggressive and like had some outbursts. And if that's true, then it's like.

• 1:04:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:54Hannah Berner?

  But I don't know if that's true.

• 1:04:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I don't think we'll ever know.

• 1:04:57Hannah Berner?

  I don't think we'll ever know, but Burke did not want to be involved in the documentary and they like didn't bring the Burke stuff up once in the documentary, which I.

• 1:05:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Why did they keep doing this though?

• 1:05:07Hannah Berner?

  Because Netflix.

• 1:05:08Paige DeSorbo?

  If it wasn't the son, like, okay, if there are like, say it was the son and the parents are covering for them. Why do they keep doing this? Like, we don't, I don't need a documentary in another 10 years about this. Like, let her rest. Like, I'm so done with it.

• 1:05:23Hannah Berner?

  I think it's because unsolved murders are make money.

• 1:05:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Then like run the DNA.

• 1:05:30Hannah Berner?

  That's why I said, run the DNA. Actually, the job I want.

• 1:05:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Hannah Berner?

  I mean, the Innocence Project is like an amazing organization, but I want to be that bitch that's on the computer that is like, give me every case before 1970 or 80 or whatever. I'm DNAing that shit.

• 1:05:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine being a murderer in the 60s.

• 1:05:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, catch me.

• 1:05:50Hannah Berner?

  They didn't have text messaging. You literally would, could do anything.

• 1:05:55Paige DeSorbo?

  You could do anything.

• 1:05:56Hannah Berner?

  You could go anywhere. If you got caught murdering in the sixties.

• 1:05:59Paige DeSorbo?

  You're so stupid.

• 1:06:00Hannah Berner?

  You're a fucking loser. You're a fucking loser, but I want to be that bitch that's like.

• 1:06:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you could change your name and no one would check, could check it.

• 1:06:07Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no.

• 1:06:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you could put yourself in the witness protection program and it not even be a thing.

• 1:06:12Hannah Berner?

  You could literally get in trouble in one state and go to another state and they wouldn't know that you were in trouble in another state. No, it was insane. Well nowadays you can't, you Google one thing and they're like.

• 1:06:22Paige DeSorbo?

  You could move states, start a new life and no one would know. And that sounds so nice.

• 1:06:26Hannah Berner?

  Rent a book on how to murder someone. Read it, send it back.

• 1:06:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 1:06:30Hannah Berner?

  Murder someone and they'll be like, we have no idea.

• 1:06:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And return the book. And no one would even know.

• 1:06:34Hannah Berner?

  Cause you put a different name, no one would know.

• 1:06:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No one would know.

• 1:06:36Hannah Berner?

  I want to be that bitch that like some murderer is like chilling in his house because he murdered someone in the sixties. And I want to be like, knock, knock bitch.

• 1:06:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we ran the prince.

• 1:06:45Hannah Berner?

  We ran the prince. I don't, I want all those people gone. Sorry, I'm a policeman. I'm a policeman today. Um, okay. Another documentary of villains. Are you aware of Kundalini Yoga?

• 1:06:59Paige DeSorbo?

  You've, only because of you.

• 1:07:01Hannah Berner?

  Can you spell it?

• 1:07:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you've talked about this documentary.

• 1:07:04Hannah Berner?

  I've finished Breath of Fire on Max. People have to watch it, but it's basically, it's crazy and watch it.

• 1:07:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:07:15Hannah Berner?

  The next one is the most upsetting one.

• 1:07:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:07:19Hannah Berner?

  It's called, what is it called? It's called The Shopping Conspiracy.

• 1:07:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I can't, this is the one on Netflix?

• 1:07:26Hannah Berner?

  It might ruin your life if you watch it.

• 1:07:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I, that's why I haven't watched it because people are like, I'm actually disgusted.

• 1:07:32Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, I actually don't know how do we move forward.

• 1:07:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:35Hannah Berner?

  So basically in the thirties, a bunch of businessmen came together and they were like, we're making light bulbs and it takes two thousand five hundred hours.

• 1:07:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate them, man. Hey, we're making light bulbs now. You know there was some wife being like, why don't you do your fucking chores? Instead of playing with your friends? Some made up thing you guys keep talking about.

• 1:07:58Hannah Berner?

  You're fire like normal people.

• 1:08:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Electricity, yeah, sure. Why don't you clean the pigpen and shut up?

• 1:08:04Hannah Berner?

  No, you're gonna be so mad at this. They go, okay, it takes 2,500 hours until this light, light doesn't work anymore. That's not good for business. Let's, after a thousand hours, make sure that this light breaks down.

• 1:08:18Paige DeSorbo?

  That's how I feel about my iPhone.

• 1:08:20Hannah Berner?

  So that, that's so fucked up, right? That's now the business model for businesses. So Apple, all these people make sure that one, it breaks down after a certain amount of time. Two, it's not fixable. Or if it is fixable, it's like impossible for us to like open it and do it.

• 1:08:37Paige DeSorbo?

  All the men do is lie. All they do is just lie.

• 1:08:39Hannah Berner?

  We're all getting tricked left and right. And basically, the biggest problem is, okay, so you want us to keep consuming and keep buying because products are gonna break? There's no end of life cycle for these things. So we're producing more items, more fashion, more electronics than, than at like

• 1:08:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Ever before.

• 1:08:56Hannah Berner?

  Like they were talking about like Sheen and like the amount of clothes that they're making is insane. And because it's cheap, you don't care that after a couple washes it breaks because you're like, it cost me $4, it actually was worth the wear.

• 1:09:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 1:09:08Hannah Berner?

  We don't have anywhere to put this stuff. And let's be honest, we don't know what recycling is.

• 1:09:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't believe that they're doing the recycling either. I don't trust them.

• 1:09:19Hannah Berner?

  So they're not. Brands will just say like, this is recyclable.

• 1:09:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Hannah Berner?

  When they're not. And then things, they basically said, stuff has to be either put into the air, the ground, or the water.

• 1:09:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the thing, specifically living in New York City, like every couple months or whatever, I'll get an email from my building being like, just a reminder, like we're a recycle, we recycle and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, when you see trash on the street, it's all just black bags of trash. So like how, where is the recycling?

• 1:09:50Hannah Berner?

  This is the thing, plastic, a lot of it is not even recyclable. So where does, where are the iPhones, the MacBooks, every, where are these things going?

• 1:10:01Hannah Berner?

  It's going to other countries and they're just pouring it. They're basically like Ghana is just full of clothes. Like, cause they're just pouring clothes in their beaches. Thailand is full of laptops and people have to go in and try to like break them down, but obviously they're getting sick because of like the metals and shit.

• 1:10:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I have this weird thing where like I can't get rid of my old iPhones because I'm like, someone will try and frame me.

• 1:10:25Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah, all my laptops and iPhones.

• 1:10:27Paige DeSorbo?

  My laptops and iPhones.

• 1:10:29Hannah Berner?

  So you're saving the planet. I'm holding space for you to save the planet. But the problem is, is all these people are making things to break, but then not coming up with like a cycle for, and they just make it and they sell it and they're like, I'm rid of it.

• 1:10:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:45Hannah Berner?

  But the universe is dying.

• 1:10:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:10:47Hannah Berner?

  Like, this stuff is going into the ocean, the air, or the ground. It's not sustainable at the rate we're making products.

• 1:10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:10:55Hannah Berner?

  And we're fucked.

• 1:10:57Paige DeSorbo?

  What a happy note to end the pod on.

• 1:10:59Hannah Berner?

  What an appropriate note to end the pod on. I do have to say.

• 1:11:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I kind of do want to watch that one, though.

• 1:11:05Hannah Berner?

  I think you should.

• 1:11:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm going to.

• 1:11:07Hannah Berner?

  It does make you want to like, save the world, but like, it's definitely not going to be through plastic straws, like not.

• 1:11:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:11:15Hannah Berner?

  Like, there's bigger.

• 1:11:16Paige DeSorbo?

  It needs to be a bigger overhaul.

• 1:11:17Hannah Berner?

  We need like government to have some like structure in place so all these huge companies can't keep.

• 1:11:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Like making so much stuff.

• 1:11:25Hannah Berner?

  Making so much stuff and even like maybe let's make some stuff last a little longer.

• 1:11:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:11:31Hannah Berner?

  If we're going to be creating product. Um, we are going to Mashantucket, Connecticut. This weekend, we're going to Windsor, Ontario.

• 1:11:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Cleveland.

• 1:11:44Hannah Berner?

  Cleveland, Ohio. We have some tickets left. Check it out on our website. Um, we love you guys so much. And thank you for giggling with us.

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