#2409 - Brian Redban

Brian Redban is a stand-up comic, producer, co-host of the podcast and live-streaming YouTube show "Kill Tony," founder of the Deathsquad podcast network, and a co-owner of the Sunset Strip Comedy Club in Austin. www.deathsquad.tv Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Buy 1 Get 1 Free Trucker Hat with code ROGAN at https://happydad.com Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in NH/OR/ONT. Eligibility restrictions apply. Terms: draftkings.com/sportsbook. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Fees may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $300 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Token expires 11/23/25. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 11/16/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Training by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

• 0:14Speaker 02

  Hey, good to see ya.

• 0:16Speaker 01

  Good to see ya.

• 0:17Joe Rogan?

  Did you see that new information about China came out with a new quantum computer? That can do, it can do an equation in four minutes. It takes all the world's supercomputers 2.6 billion years to solve.

• 0:33Speaker 02

  Really?

• 0:34Joe Rogan?

  And it can do it in four minutes.

• 0:36Speaker 02

  Is that real, though?

• 0:37Joe Rogan?

  I mean, allegedly. Allegedly. That's the problem with this whole quantum thing is I don't understand. I've had it explained to me four or five times. I don't understand it.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:48Joe Rogan?

  It's just my monkey brain is like, "Uh huh."

• 0:50Speaker 02

  They also say a lot of things, you know?

• 0:52Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 0:52Speaker 02

  So who knows if it's real or not?

• 0:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, you mean China?

• 0:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, China.

• 0:57Joe Rogan?

  But, but they have American ones that have done them too. They've done some crazy, like Marc Andreessen explained one of them. It's so nuts. He said that it solved a computer that if you took, it solved an equation if you took all of the world's atoms and converted it into a supercomputer, all of the universe's atoms, excuse me, and converted it into a supercomputer, it would take so much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death. And this quantum computer solved it in a matter of minutes.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, I don't know what it means, though. I think what they're trying to say is that this somehow or another is proof of the multiverse. Because all of these computers are somehow or another, like this quantum, the idea is this quantum computer is computing along with other quantum computers in other dimensions, other universes, other something, other realms, and that there's an infinite number, that there's so many of them that that's the only thing that can account for this thing being able to do this so quickly.

• 2:12Joe Rogan?

  Right? But because you're like, okay, what are you saying? Like, what are you saying? What are you doing? What does this mean? Yes, chat GPT. How many people know this? This is what's weird, right? Let's assume that they're telling the truth. And let's assume that they've figured out a computer that can. It's got godlike powers, right? How many fucking people know how this works? Like, what is the number? Like, if all those people got assassinated and those machines were just sitting there? Just like, off? How long would it be before somebody came along that could figure out how to start that up again? Do you know what I'm saying? Right. Like, are we dealing with like, it, it, so this is, it might be the most monumental technological breakthrough in the history of the human race, right? If, if something, it has to be, right?

• 2:56Joe Rogan?

  And then you think of what it can do, once it does that. And how many people know how to make that? One schizophrenic.

• 3:05Joe Rogan?

  He's been trying to tell us the whole time. Is it like, one dude? Is this like, one dude that they just feed and take care of and guard him everywhere he goes? Like, he's the guy. He figured this fucking thing out. No one knows how, how this magic works. I mean, if you had to guess, like, how many quantum computer scientists that could successfully recreate a quantum computer, given enough resources? Thirty, maybe. Thirty, maybe on the planet? Maybe, maybe. And what? Thirty out of eight billion? Thirty out of eight billion? I don't even know if we're right, but let's assume we're right. Let's say a hundred, let's get crazy. Let's say a hundred. What are those hundred people? What if some fucking Mongolian assassin just gets hired? Just take out all of them?

• 3:49Joe Rogan?

  And they'd all start dropping like flies?

• 3:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah. This, it's weird when there's technology that's at a level where you, you gotta go like. How many people know how to do that? Like, you were just showing me your phone. Like, show, show me that phone again. This is so sexy. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the new Samsung Fold. And I swear to God, when you're holding it in your hand, it feels like a regular phone. And then bam.

• 4:17Speaker 02

  Thin it is.

• 4:18Joe Rogan?

  It's a fucking iPhone. It's so thin.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:21Joe Rogan?

  If you compare it to my iPhone, it doesn't feel any different. It feels smaller.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, it actually feels smaller.

• 4:26Joe Rogan?

  It's smaller than my iPhone. And then, you could use it like a regular phone, and it's a good-sized regular phone. Like, kind of the perfect size for texting. Where your thumb goes across easy, like, easy one-hand hold. But then, decadence.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Right. Now you have a little iPad, iPad with you.

• 4:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Now you're answering emails, you're watching YouTube videos.

• 4:47Speaker 02

  Supposedly, that's what Apple's doing next, is they're bringing out a foldable next year.

• 4:50Joe Rogan?

  They always do that, though, right? They wait until everybody gets it right.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  Right.

• 4:54Joe Rogan?

  Like, Samsung finally got it right. Because if they came out with some clunky bullshit, like, do you remember the Newton?

• 5:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  I mean, but it was ahead of its time, though.

• 5:05Joe Rogan?

  It was so ahead of its time. Uh, but who trusted their information in that thing? Like, all your data, like, that's gonna crash. That thing's barely glued together.

• 5:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 5:16Joe Rogan?

  I remember when I first came out to California in 1994, there was a guy who was a head of one of these big studios. Like, very impressive character. Kind of guy who wears, like, uh, those tie clasps and, and those cufflinks. He was a tie-clasps cufflink guy, like, very wealthy guy. And he had a, one of those Newton stupid things, and he was carrying it around. And I was looking, and I was like, what is the benefit of that? Like, do you have an address book? I have an address book. Like, you write it down, you just turn to the page? Like, you just turn to the page on this thing that's as big as a house? Like, this thing is so big.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:49Joe Rogan?

  It's like a loaf of bread you're carrying around everywhere.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then that's what kind of made the trio, right? Remember the trio and all that stuff? That was like a little baby version of it.

• 5:57Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I remember I thought I was a wizard when I had a palm. I was like, look at me. I've got a keyboard and a screen, motherfucker. I'm in the future.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  Those were awesome.

• 6:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I remember I resisted the BlackBerry for a while. Because the people that I work with on Fear Factor all had the BlackBerrys. And they were always on their BlackBerry. I was like, that thing is like stealing your time. Like, well, you gotta answer emails. Like, that's the new thing. Like, you gotta be able to answer emails on the fly. That was a totally new thing.

• 6:25Speaker 02

  And you got small, tiny buttons you had to get used to?

• 6:28Joe Rogan?

  But you could actually send an email. So if you were on a BlackBerry, like, you were kind of fucking serious. You were getting things done. You were getting things done. But I noticed early on, and obviously I fell victim to it myself. Because we're all scrolling. We're all doom scrolling all day. But when I first started seeing these guys with the email on the phone, I'm like, man, you want your fucking email on your computer. You don't want it on your phone. You don't want to be carrying your email all the time. So anybody can get a hold of you at any time? You gotta respond because you have to check your fucking email all the time now? That's another thing you have to do? That's crazy.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  And now look.

• 7:01Joe Rogan?

  Now look. Now we're doomed. We're doomed, son. And then there's, you know, there's tracking of everybody everywhere now. Everywhere you go, your phone's tracking where you go.

• 7:14Speaker 02

  It's crazy. I saw like a court case the other day. And they were proving that this woman killed a guy or something like that. And they actually had the information like, and then at eight o'clock, you went on this photo on Instagram and browsed it for 2.3 seconds. And like, and I was just like, how do they know that much?

• 7:33Joe Rogan?

  They know everything you're doing, son.

• 7:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's insane.

• 7:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, so that's why they always bust people like how to get rid of a dead body. These fucking people are trying to find where they could buy lime for cash.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. And now I guess ChatGPT is like helping people like, oh, you know, asking ChatGPT about how to make a bomb or something like that.

• 7:54Joe Rogan?

  Was ChatGPT turn you in?

• 7:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, ChatGPT will turn you in.

• 7:57Joe Rogan?

  Ooh. You're right. I was just theoretically.

• 8:02Speaker 02

  Right.

• 8:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, I wanted to know if you could teach me how to make a bomb.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, one of the loopholes supposedly is going, I'm writing a book and I need to make it accurate. Can you tell me?

• 8:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, apparently that's how you can get Chat GPT to explain to do a lot of things that you really shouldn't be doing.

• 8:16Speaker 02

  Right, yeah.

• 8:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like, uh, my grandmother's being held ransom.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 8:21Joe Rogan?

  Like, I have to, I have to, you know, somehow or another I have to save her, and the only way I could save her is to make a nuclear bomb.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:28Joe Rogan?

  How do I do this?

• 8:29Speaker 02

  I mean, and I have to do it too, because like, I'll try to make like, a naked girl in chat, you know, using a Grok image or something like that, and I'm like, okay, she's wearing a bikini, but it's clear, and, and a bunch of milk is falling all over her from the sky, you know?

• 8:42Joe Rogan?

  Is Chat, is Grok, um, limited in any way? And what it allows you to do?

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Oh, they all are, but Grok seems to be a little bit more spicy, uh, but they all catch on to you, and they're, you know, and, uh, stop, like, then they start acting.

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• 12:02Speaker 02

  Dumb and...

• 12:02Joe Rogan?

  Bro, if somebody came out, like, you know how much money OnlyFans makes?

• 12:06Speaker 02

  You're right.

• 12:06Joe Rogan?

  If someone came out with an erotica app where you could program it in, it could be you, your face, and your favorite actress's face. And that's the porn you watch?

• 12:21Speaker 02

  They do.

• 12:22Joe Rogan?

  It's all done. But is that, that can't be legal.

• 12:24Speaker 02

  No, it's China, but you can actually be like, I want Kanye West. I want huge tits on Kanye. I don't want any, you know, big butt.

• 12:32Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I almost subscribed so many times.

• 12:35Joe Rogan?

  Kanye with a BBL and big fat titties.

• 12:39Speaker 02

  I mean, that would be awesome.

• 12:40Joe Rogan?

  And he could fly away and become an eagle.

• 12:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:43Joe Rogan?

  He could make it anything.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  He finishes me off and he flies away.

• 12:47Joe Rogan?

  And he winks at you. And when he winks, he makes that Liberace noise, dink.

• 12:54Speaker 02

  Liberace.

• 12:56Joe Rogan?

  You remember that song when Liberace winks at me? God.

• 13:01Joe Rogan?

  I can't even imagine inside someone's lifetime, conceivably, somebody saw that on television. Because that was like, what, Jamie, was that 1950s?

• 13:13Joe Rogan?

  The Liberace winks at me, find out when that was. See, let's just imagine someone's alive to see when Liberace winks at me on TV. And then as they're older, they're seeing Kanye West with big fat titties. You're seeing AI that's... I get sent AI things all the time and I have to tell my friends, dude, that's not real.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, it fools me one out of 100 times. And I'll sit there and watch and be like, oh, no, look, that woman had like a weird fingernail in that one frame, you know, or something.

• 13:42Joe Rogan?

  There's always some, but that's just for now. Like, like, a year ago, it was easy to tell.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  Right, yeah. Well, it is pretty hard, like, there's, I follow a couple of these fake girls on Instagram, you know, that are not real. And they have like 2 million followers and I'm like, ah!

• 13:57Joe Rogan?

  So many, there's so many of them, men are so simple.

• 14:01Speaker 02

  But it's pretty good.

• 14:01Joe Rogan?

  Show us big titties with a pretty face, we're like, ooh! And you have our attention and then you could fucking sell us hammers or whatever. Whatever you're trying to do, steal our data, DM us.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's pretty nice, though.

• 14:15Joe Rogan?

  Bro, how many fake DMs do you get or text messages do you get a day?

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Oh, that's about three or four a day saying like, hey, Brian, you know, you selling your house? And I'm like, what, I'm not selling my house, what are you talking, like, just...

• 14:28Joe Rogan?

  Mine aren't even to me, they're to a dude named Raymond. Raymond owned my phone number before me and Raymond was a moron. Raymond signed up for everything, this fucking dude gets text messages all day long.

• 14:41Speaker 02

  I have that same thing and I think it's on purpose, so you write back, hey, man, wrong number. Then they know it's a real, like, it's a...

• 14:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's the same guy's name.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  I know, me too, I have that too, I have that too.

• 14:51Joe Rogan?

  I think it's someone signed up for something and then someone sold the data. So like, you use your, what happens is a lot of these sleazy motherfuckers... Here's the thing, we never thought that data was a commodity. Whoever thought when you would sign up and give someone your email address that that would be valuable?

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Right.

• 15:10Joe Rogan?

  A commodity? And find out what you're interested in, what stuff you buy online, what websites you visit? That's a commodity?

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 15:19Joe Rogan?

  Ugh, that's the problem.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:21Joe Rogan?

  The problem is, is they can make money. And so all someone has to do is get an email list, like say, you know, something you're selling or whatever. Sign up, receive our newsletter, okay, duh. And then they have this big ass database and then just sell it to anybody. These fucking scumbags, it's... All of a sudden, you're getting text messages just from Nigeria. You know, you won money in a lottery and you just have to fill out a form? Oh, really? Oh, really?

• 15:50Speaker 02

  They've been doing that for a while though, right? Remember like you would go to the mall and there'd be a like car, enter to win this car? You know, and you'd fill out all this information, like, how are they just...

• 15:59Joe Rogan?

  That was mailing lists. You would get stuff sent to you in the mail, mail, fucking goo... People don't realize, you just get spammy ads in the mail. Like you'd get your mail and like half of it would be bullshit.

• 16:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:11Joe Rogan?

  Remember those days?

• 16:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, that's still kind of the, it's still kind of the way.

• 16:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but does anybody read those stupid things when you get those things in the mail? Those spammy ads?

• 16:21Speaker 02

  No.

• 16:22Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 16:23Joe Rogan?

  But I guess enough do.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  Why don't they make that illegal?

• 16:26Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 16:27Speaker 02

  There's so many things like that. Why, why, I think right now every house should have solar. Like that has to be the roof from now on, you know, any brand new house has to have solar. Why not?

• 16:38Joe Rogan?

  It would certainly be a lot easier on the grid.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, and we know that grids is gonna get worse and worse with all these crazy computers and...

• 16:44Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. The grid, the grids can't sustain AI. Like if, if AI becomes, you know, much bigger than it is, which is what everybody anticipates. It's demands for power are crazy. This, this grid will crush. Like, remember when, it was one of the most California things ever? They passed a law saying that all new cars had to be electric by like 2035 or something like that. And then a couple of weeks later, they said, please don't charge your electric car, cuz the grid can't handle it.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 17:25Joe Rogan?

  It's so California. We're gonna save you by destroying civilization. We're gonna save you. We're gonna save you. You're gonna have to get an electric car. Only electric so we all feel good about ourselves. And then in the process, you you cook the grid. The grid has, they used to do brownouts all the time just for air conditionings. Remember those?

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, like you had like a part of the, like you're from 12 to 2, 2 to 4, like based on where you live.

• 17:52Joe Rogan?

  It was just enough so it didn't ruin all the food in your freezer.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:56Joe Rogan?

  You know, like they were like, keep your freezer shut, keep your fridge shut. You should be okay, but they had to do it because they didn't have enough juice for the whole city.

• 18:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, it happens a lot almost here, almost here. Like, I watch our grid all the time, like, oh, you know, it's so close to failing here in Texas.

• 18:12Joe Rogan?

  You watch the grid? Is there an app?

• 18:13Speaker 02

  No, they have it on the news when this happens and stuff.

• 18:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, it definitely happened during that big freeze, the first year we moved here. Ooh, that got sketchy.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:21Joe Rogan?

  That got weird because there was people that didn't have any heat for like a week and people like, oh, you're in Texas, shut up. No, it was 20 degrees out.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  It was 20 degrees in your house. I remember being that cold.

• 18:33Joe Rogan?

  Some people died because they tried to light things on fire in their house. They died from smoke inhalation.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  Or putting their generators in their garage. Do you have backup, battery backup yet?

• 18:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 18:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's great. I love it.

• 18:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Um, the thing about solar is solar is relies on batteries and then the batteries degrade and you have to get more batteries. And then the real dilemma, the moral dilemma is the way they get batteries.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:58Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's what nobody, all these green motherfuckers don't want to talk about Siddharth Karas' book. That book on how they get cobalt out of the Congo and he, when he came in here, he showed us all these different videos that he had taken off his cellphone of these people pulling these minerals out of the ground to make batteries. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, this is crazy. This is, it's.

• 19:24Joe Rogan?

  One of the weirdest things ever, that the most advanced thing that we all possess, a cellphone, is made in the most barbaric way possible. Like, the original source minerals are being hammered out of the ground by people who live in dirt floors, they have no money, they have babies on their back. It's insane. It's literally insane that that's the source. Human beings are doing that. These aren't robots, they're human beings operating these conditions so that people can check TikTok.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  There's no way to recycle it at all?

• 20:05Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  That's an Elon question. You put that on the Elon list.

• 20:08Joe Rogan?

  It should be.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:09Joe Rogan?

  It should be a law. It should be like, is there anything left in your battery? Is there anything? The stuff is really valuable. Slaves are pulling it out of the ground. Like, that's literally what's happening. And it's a lot of it is run by other countries, too, man. And they're running these operations out of the Congo, and you're like, oof. And then we're like, ew. I, I'm Greg, I work at the Apple Store, can I help you? Like, Greg, if you follow Greg down the line, you see the fucking minerals in your battery. It's so evil. It's really evil, man. I mean, that's why they call them conflict minerals, right?

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Right. Is any of the new, well, I guess you wouldn't know. Like, any of the, because there's all these different battery techs, like, I know there's

• 20:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a new one that... Yeah, there's definitely a more energy-dense one that, like, um, who's using it now? It's not OnePlus, it's, um, one of those other Chinese, Opio? One of, one of those big Chinese companies that makes killer cellphones that we never get.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  That's banned here.

• 21:15Joe Rogan?

  It's got, yeah, it's got a 7,200 milliamp battery. So, an iPhone has a 5,200 or something like that? So, this is, like, significantly larger than the iPhone battery. What's crazy, though, is the screen is brighter, it's got, like, more nits, and if you have them both on full-screen brightness and watch a video, like, watch, like, prolonged video forever, the iPhone only dies, like, 35 minutes.

• 21:47Joe Rogan?

  Uh, before this one does.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 21:49Joe Rogan?

  Like, they both go like nineteen hours, but this one's like nineteen hours and thirty-five minutes. Like, okay. Well, you got a big ass battery and wh- why does it only go thirty-five more minutes for like forty percent more battery? That seems stupid. Cause they're not as optimized. That's the thing that Apple has over everybody.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:08Joe Rogan?

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• 23:32Speaker 02

  That's still a thing.

• 23:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  But the cameras are really good on it.

• 23:36Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Sony phone is the unhel- unheralded hero of the cellphone world. Because they'll, they'll still make a phone with a jack where you can put in a real audio jack in.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:46Joe Rogan?

  And listen to like real music.

• 23:47Speaker 02

  Instead of a dongle and all that crap.

• 23:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, you could also charge it at the same time. Instead of this stupid, stupid USB-C thing. Because like if you have to listen to something, if something's like really important, your phone's running out of battery, you have to make a choice. Either you wear Bluetooth and, and cook your brain.

• 24:05Joe Rogan?

  Or, you know, you have to charge or listen, or you have to put it on speakerphone or something. But with these Sony phones, they still have the old school headphone jack.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  I like the old school one. I hate dongles so much on these phones. It just sucks that they're banned. Like so many of these cellphones with all these technologies, you know, because it's from China is banned. It's like DJI, one of the biggest coolest companies that makes some of the best drones ever. You know, they just got banned. And now we have to have like the second best, which is just like crap. Like we went backwards 10 years in drone technology.

• 24:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, China's way ahead on drones, right?

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Way, I mean, way ahead. And they're like $600 and you know, they're this big and they're super light. And what sucks is that the US said, okay, you know, DJI is like, we have nothing to do with the government, please.

• 24:58Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if you heard, but we're gonna make a million drones. We have so many drones.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  They have one month though, for the, there's like five different departments in the US government to to research the company DJI and say, yes, they are with China government or not. And none of the government or none of these four, five departments have done anything since. And they have like three weeks left until they're 100% banned forever.

• 25:24Joe Rogan?

  It's probably a trade tactic, if I had to guess.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  You think?

• 25:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think a lot of what Trump does is trade tactics. Like he threatens, he threatened Xi Jinping that he's gonna start testing nuclear bombs again. That's what he said. Like they're testing nuclear bombs. So he's like, if they're testing bombs, we're gonna test bombs. We don't wanna test bombs. He said he was gonna test bombs and all of a sudden they're having like really fruitful conversations. They sit down and talk it out. I think the craziness of him helps in that way. Because once he sits down and talks to people, you know, he's He's pretty good at making deals. You could hate the guy. You could do, you could, you know, you could be like, fuck him, he's like, okay, okay, yeah.

• 26:10Joe Rogan?

  But look, he's already negotiated peace settlements with many African countries that have been at war for decades. These people have been in conflict forever. There's quite a few different international conflicts that he's somehow or another brokered peace deals for. And nobody wants to like, look at that. Like, he's not profiting from making sure these people don't kill each other. He wants, legitimately, there's some part of him, you have to admit, doesn't want people to die. And if he can prevent that, he's gonna try to do that. Also, the crypto coin's sketchy as fuck. But you know what I mean? Like, you gotta be able to say, you gotta be able to say all of it, right? It's all, there's a whole lot. It's like, all human beings, he's got a lot of things going on.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:56Joe Rogan?

  He's just got more because he's the fucking president, but some of those tactics of talking shit, and it kind of seems to work a little. Admit it or not, do you think it's un-presidential or not, you're probably correct. Some of it seems to work. It's not working with Russia at all.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:13Joe Rogan?

  The Russia-Ukraine thing, like, remember he said he was gonna be able to fix that in 24 hours? And Putin was like, okay, I'm gonna fuck with you.

• 27:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:20Joe Rogan?

  You know, Putin is on a totally different level. He's a legit dictator. I mean, he's been running Russia for a long fucking time. And he's got that place locked down so tight that even if he really did allow for open elections, he would still win all the time. And why would he allow for open one? I know what's best for you.

• 27:43Speaker 02

  That's crazy that that still happens.

• 27:44Joe Rogan?

  Still happens, in most countries, bro. That's what's crazy. This is the only country legitimately where it's up for grabs. Like, that's how a guy like Trump can get in there. I mean, it's a crazy, evil battle, and now people are being prosecuted because of a lot of the things that they tried to do while, while he was in office the first time. I mean, there's, there's so many cases going on right now that seem to be legitimate. Like, they legitimately, you see the BBC thing? The BBC thing is crazy. The head of BBC had to resign because they took a film of Trump from January 6th, the speech that he gave, and they edited it so something that he said 52 minutes later.

• 28:30Joe Rogan?

  They put, right after one, he said something, to make it look like he was trying to get people to go attack people and fight at the Capitol.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  They do that to you all the time.

• 28:39Joe Rogan?

  But this one's, but this one's nuts. This, not only is this one nuts, but this one is for a literal president of the greatest country the world's ever known. He's the president and you're lying about what he said publicly, uh, which is on the internet, which anybody could see. Like, it is the, the clearest, like, indication of how, how that woke shit was rotting people's brains. And is, still. Is still, but just less, you know what I mean? It was, it was like, it was on the march then, and they all felt like they had to go along with it.

• 29:17Joe Rogan?

  And so, "And by any means necessary, we must make sure that," you know, so they decided to paint a different version of what he said. And they're fucked now. They're fucked.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  BBC?

• 29:28Joe Rogan?

  60 Minutes did it with the Kamala Harris interview, but they did it the other way. They made it look like she had a good answer. Which is like, it's so crazy, like, you guys are supposed to be the news. You're not supposed to be the propaganda arm of whatever party you support. This is nuts. This is fucking nuts, and BBC is always like the one you quote when you wanna seem smart. "I was watching this thing on the BBC, oh dude, you watch the BBC, you must be fucking smart."

• 29:58Speaker 02

  And PBS, I mean, that, that used to be what I considered, like, school, like, that's like, you know, the, the best, the good guys.

• 30:05Joe Rogan?

  Did you see that PBS lady? She's like, "Sometimes truth gets in the way of good." They're like, "What? No, it doesn't. Truth doesn't get in the way, you fucking crazy asshole." And then they, they had an interview with her, and they were like, like, asking her questions, like, such non-answers, like, "What did, what did you mean by this? Are you, you know, what, what is, uh, uh, do you guys lean in one way or another ideologically or politically?" And it's like this circular, non-answered dance, where you don't, you're never a real person. You're not saying, you know, like, "Thank you, Mr. Senator, for that question." You know, like, you're not real. You're just, you're just trying to get through this session without revealing anything that's gonna force you to be sued.

• 30:52Joe Rogan?

  And that's in charge of the narrative that we get on TV. And a respected narrative, PBS very respected, BBC very respected. Like from because of the past and it just got infected by zombies. They just made their way through that gates. And they took over the staff.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  What's next?

• 31:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh, this is a rejection of that, but the scary part is what we usually do is we do something like that and then we overcorrect. Right? And then we go like white nationalists, fucking we're all Christian, get rid of the Muslims. You know what I mean? Like it gets, it gets scary when there's like hardcore ideological conflict because people push back. Oh, you want to know what a bitch is? I'll show you a fucking bitch, right? You know, that's what happens. You cannot call me a bitch. Okay, motherfucker. It's on, you know, and then that's what people are doing on the left and the right. And the ultimate expression of that is obviously Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk gets shot and people are celebrating like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 31:58Joe Rogan?

  You, you want people to die that you disagree with? Like where are we right now on the scale of one to two civil war? Where are we? Are we at seven? Cause I thought we were five. I thought we were like four, four or five. But after Charlie Kirk thing, I'm like, oh, we might be like seven. This might be like step seven on, on the way to a bona fide civil war. As soon as you start celeb, like regular people celebrating somebody getting murdered in front of their wife and kid on television in front of the whole world. Soon as you celebrate that, like, man, you're in dark territory. You're in dark territory. And if the worst thing you could say about that guy

• 32:40Joe Rogan?

  is that he said some things I disagree with and you're celebrating that he got shot in the neck in front of the world? Whoa, and you work at an insurance company? This is nuts. And you thought it was okay to say that on Instagram? This is nuts. This is nuts. Like what are you guys on? Like what's happening here?

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Estrogen pills.

• 33:06Joe Rogan?

  I think it's Adderall.

• 33:07Speaker 02

  Adderall.

• 33:08Joe Rogan?

  I think there's a lot of folks out there, high productivity folks that are on amphetamines. You're an amphetamine person, you know, which is why they're so mean. Like amphetamine people are mean.

• 33:22Joe Rogan?

  Weed people are like, "Aww." Weed people are like, "Well, you know, man, like, she's in a bubble." And like, the people she's around, they all think it's the right thing to do, that you, you know, you, you have the platform, and you know it's right." Like, you don't know what's right. I don't know what's right. Nobody knows what's right. The only way you find out what's right is you gotta talk to people. And you all, you listen to like, their logical arguments about something, you go, "Oh, okay. Yeah, you got a good point. I never thought about it that way." But if you can't do that, then you never figure it out. And if, instead of doing that, you decide the other people can't talk, or you make up some facts, or you edit some video together to make it look like somebody said something they totally didn't say.

• 34:06Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen it? You seen the, like, what they edited? Uh-uh. Jamie, do you, can you find it real quick, an example of it, so we could see it? Cause it's so nuts. Like, how did you think you were gonna get away with this? But this is what they've fucking done so many times. They did that with that "very fine people" hoax. Where they tried to pretend that he was saying that some of the neo-Nazis are very fine people. Hmm. That is not what he said. Yeah. They cut, edited the fucking shit out of that. And then Obama was saying that during the campaign for Kamala Harris. Did he call them white nationalists "very fine people"? Like, he's saying that on the campaign trail. Like, that's crazy. Wow. So, here, play this out.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not gonna have a country anymore.

• 34:58Joe Rogan?

  Alright, that's the BBC.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  To the Capitol.

• 35:01Joe Rogan?

  This is what he actually said.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  And we're gonna cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.

• 35:14Joe Rogan?

  Fifty-four minutes.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you're not gonna have a country anymore.

• 35:21Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. Crazy, crazy. He was literally saying the opposite. Yeah. He was calling these senators and congresspeople gonna cheer on these brave senators and congresspeople. That's crazy. On PBS? That's nuts. Bro, by the way, he's pleading sarcastic. He doesn't want to cheer on the brave senators. Right. He wants to scare them with a mob of people. Yeah, exactly. Let's be real about bold things. Let's be real about bold things. But he's also saying they stole the fucking election and...

• 35:52Joe Rogan?

  I feel like if you say that, you've gotta have some like really good evidence that you could give out. Like if you said to me, if I ran for president and I told you, dude, they stole the election. And you're like, how? I would have an answer. I would have an answer. No one has an answer. Every, there's no documentary that's really good. Like, no one's like put together like a rock-solid, peer-reviewed, paper-supported documentary. This is exactly what happened. This is how they stole the election. We know that you can do this. We know they did this. We know that these things got dropped off. We know it didn't make any sense. We know there's dead people voted. We know there was ballots that were mail-in ballots that were brought in in shipments and all of them were for Biden.

• 36:36Joe Rogan?

  And there was thousands and thousands of them and they swung vote. Okay, if you have that, then you gotta make a fucking documentary, a really good one, and put it out there so everybody can understand it. Because it's crazy that this is four years later and people are still saying that. Or you don't wanna fix it because you monkey with the elections too. You know? And here, is there evidence of that? Well, I do know that a Republican company... Who bought Dominion? Who bought the Dominion voting thing? I believe this GOP supporter bought the voting machines. Oh, really? Right. Yeah. Wait, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

• 37:20Joe Rogan?

  So, it's one of two things that's going on. Dominion Voting Systems sold to company run by former Republican election official. What? Yeah. This world sucks. This is where it gets sucked.

• 37:37Joe Rogan?

  I had Rep Luna on the podcast and one of the things that she said that was really shocking. She said, "Sometimes they don't want to fix things because they can campaign against them."

• 37:50Joe Rogan?

  I was like, "What? No." They fundraise against them. "No." I was like, "No." And then I was like, "Of course." They don't want to fix it. They want it so that it's us versus them and you're gonna lose your right to whatever it is. Whatever it is. It's just a big ol' hustle, dude. It's insane. It's a big ol' hustle because one of the things is going on, one or two things is going on. Either you don't have any evidence that they stole the election. Or you have evidence and you're not telling me. Why would you not tell me? Why would you not tell me? I'll tell everybody. You have evidence? Like, or... Are you like, "Oh, is that how they did it? Okay."

• 38:36Joe Rogan?

  "Let's spread some money around. Let's make it happen our way. Let's copy." Well, just like, uh, Xiaomi when they make the iPhone that looks exactly like a, uh... It looks cool. Their phone, they even call it the Pro Max 17. It's badass. And has the screen on the back. It has the screen on the front and the back. Yeah. That was the one. Yeah. That was the one. Yeah. That was, that's the one that has... It has a new kind of battery. It's a different, different composition, right? Right, yeah. And, yeah, that's, I think... What is that called?

• 39:10Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, see if you can find that out.

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• 40:36Joe Rogan?

  It's some, God, I don't want to fuck it up. But that was one of the big criticisms of the newest Samsung phone. The 26 Ultra, the speculation is that they haven't switched to that type of battery production yet.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:51Joe Rogan?

  Samsung is getting criticized because they're not keeping up with the Chinese phones. Like, they've got a bunch of loyal Samsung people, but they're not keeping up with the highest-end Chinese phones. Other than that.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  Right.

• 41:02Joe Rogan?

  That's, that, that's a step up. That, but like, there's, there's some things that the higher-end Chinese phones are doing that's like, ooh.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, they've been pretty safe lately, Samsung has, with their phones. They're kind of, oh, doing what Apple's doing. You know, just every, just a little thing different every single year instead of just... I mean, I just saw a phone, I think it's, was it the Razr phone? No, but it has like the liquid cooling in it. So the back is all just like water bubbles going around and stuff. Like, it's so badass looking, dude.

• 41:33Joe Rogan?

  Who makes that?

• 41:35Speaker 02

  Jamie, you know what I'm talking about? It's a...

• 41:37Joe Rogan?

  Liquid cooling phone?

• 41:38Speaker 02

  Was it Razr? No, like, liquid cooling phone. Somebody just showed it. Oh, Jerry Riggs Everything just had it, and he tore it apart and everything like that.

• 41:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  It's badass.

• 41:48Joe Rogan?

  I like that guy's show, but it also makes me sad.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Uh, here it is. Unbox Therapy. Red Magic.

• 41:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, didn't you have a Red phone, Jamie? It's not? Oh, those fucking thieves.

• 42:02Speaker 02

  Look at that. See, see those white dots? That's actually water bubbles.

• 42:05Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  And when it gets hot, it just starts spitting.

• 42:08Joe Rogan?

  So that's a gaming phone?

• 42:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:11Joe Rogan?

  How much do I want water bubbles? I do want water bubbles, but I don't want them enough to switch to Android. It's a problem.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, that phone looks awesome.

• 42:21Joe Rogan?

  That's pretty dope. That's a problem, though, the gaming on the phone, dude, man, I can't fuck with that.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  I can't either.

• 42:27Joe Rogan?

  It's right there. It's too accessible. I don't want to get addicted to some stupid game on my phone.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's, I'm not into it.

• 42:35Joe Rogan?

  But I know some people who love it. They love it.

• 42:38Speaker 02

  William Montgomery, he sits there and plays like three hours of just a brick game.

• 42:42Joe Rogan?

  William Montgomery. That video you sent me, him bombing at that Austin Comedy Festival, that shit is so funny.

• 42:49Speaker 02

  There's so many videos now of it.

• 42:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, that's so funny. Here's the thing about William. William, to me, is the ultimate, once you see him, you love him and you want to see him more comic. The ultimate.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:03Joe Rogan?

  But the first time you see him, you're like, what the fuck is this?

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, like Brody Stevens. When you first see Brody, you're like, what the fuck is he yelling?

• 43:09Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. He's really the most similar guy to Brody that I know.

• 43:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:13Joe Rogan?

  And they're both, they're both weirdos.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:15Joe Rogan?

  You know? William's such a weirdo. But he's a great guy, just like Brody was. But he's, if you see him, though, like The Black Keys, those guys fucking love him.

• 43:25Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 43:25Joe Rogan?

  And when they came into the studio, they wanted to come to the club. They goes, William Montgomery coming? I go, I'll make sure he's there. I call up William, I'm like, William?

• 43:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Pat and Dan, they fucking love him, man. He's got so many fans, because he's so unique. He's so unique. But you gotta know what you're getting into with him.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  Right. And don't have him open up for you if you're, what's that, Morgan J? Who is he opening up for? Like, who's that guy? That guy's so, is that a girl or a guy?

• 43:52Joe Rogan?

  I have no idea. I don't know, I just saw the clip you showed me. I didn't see anything else.

• 43:56Speaker 02

  It's, I think it's that guy that goes into the audience with a, like, an autotune microphone, you know, that's really popular for some reason, like, he's...

• 44:04Joe Rogan?

  See, I'm so old.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Me too, I don't know any of this guy.

• 44:06Joe Rogan?

  I'm so old, I'm out of the loop. I don't know what these kids like.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, Morgan J. Who's Morgan J?

• 44:10Joe Rogan?

  I find out about artists, and when I find out about them, they have 20 million Instagram followers. I'm like, okay.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  That's who, like, yeah, that's who it is, Morgan J. And he has 5.2 million followers, and his whole... Thing is like he just goes into the audience with he's not really a comedian like he's more of a like a performer. He just goes into the audience and like and talks to people like he does crowd work. That's pretty and he's like one of the biggest stars right now like it's crazy.

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, people like crowd work. That's why they like Matt Rife. Like he does, he does a lot of.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  He's sexy.

• 44:41Joe Rogan?

  Sexy too. Bold things, bold things, but it's also the crowd work. If he was just sexy, wasn't good at crowd work, he wouldn't have the audience he does. Matt's funny. He's really quick.

• 44:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:52Joe Rogan?

  You know, that's like a certain style of performing, you know, he's real calm on stage and you know, he finds the thing to say. And people love that because you're doing it off the top of your head and it's wild for them. They're like, oh my god. But, you know, it's just a different thing. It's a different thing than like regular stand up.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 45:12Joe Rogan?

  You know.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  Kind of like.

• 45:14Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of like what?

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Like, kind of like Chappelle is like he's like a totally different like he'll sit there and just smoke a cigarette on the stool like talking like like chill and stuff like that.

• 45:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  You know, that's like a different style of stand up comedy is relaxing.

• 45:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, Dave is also like Dave comes up with material by ranting. You know, so he records his all these sort of shows where he's just working on material. And then he goes over and finds out what he said that made sense, what he said that was funny. You know, he just lets it kind of flow, you know? It's a very interesting way of doing it and obviously it works really well. Boy, that guy is so dedicated to comedy. It's it's so interesting. Like all these years he's been doing stand up. And he's still more dedicated than ever. You know, he's always performing. He's always like showing up somewhere and working.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:03Joe Rogan?

  He's always like he's just constantly piecing it together. And he's such a nice guy, like fucking the nicest guy to everybody. You know, like he like he was upset with Chris Rock after Chris Rock made that special, not upset, but disagreed, I should say. That he went so hard after Will Smith.

• 46:28Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean?

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:30Joe Rogan?

  It's like, that's how nice he is.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  Have you seen Will, you've probably talked about this, Will Smith's like new song?

• 46:35Joe Rogan?

  That's great. It's my phone ring.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 46:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  It's your new?

• 46:39Joe Rogan?

  If you call me, that's my phone ring.

• 46:42Speaker 02

  Remember what you used to be? "I am beautiful."

• 46:44Joe Rogan?

  It's Christina Aguilera.

• 46:46Speaker 02

  That used to be your old callback or your ringtone.

• 46:49Joe Rogan?

  "You are beautiful, no matter what they say." "Words can't bring me down."

• 46:57Speaker 02

  Those were the days.

• 46:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, man, it was fun. You could get a phone, you would, it was like I had a Verizon flip phone and you could download ring tones.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  Why can't you do that now? I just thought of that, you can't do that anymore.

• 47:10Joe Rogan?

  I think you can.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  You can't make a song at a ringtone. Where did that go away?

• 47:15Joe Rogan?

  Is that really not a thing anymore?

• 47:17Speaker 02

  No, I never thought about that. Wait a second, why would they?

• 47:19Joe Rogan?

  Is that real? No.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  What the fuck? You should be able to do it, like pick a song on iTunes and

• 47:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 47:25Speaker 02

  How, how can you, why can't you do that anymore?

• 47:27Joe Rogan?

  I think you can.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  No, no, you can't.

• 47:30Joe Rogan?

  Can you?

• 47:31Speaker 02

  You can?

• 47:32Joe Rogan?

  You can.

• 47:32Speaker 02

  You can.

• 47:33Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Wait, no one does that anymore.

• 47:36Joe Rogan?

  Nobody does that. I'm gonna switch mine to back and black.

• 47:46Speaker 04

  That's how everybody used to do that back then.

• 47:48Speaker 02

  No one's done, zero people do that now.

• 47:49Joe Rogan?

  I know, zero, zero.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  More people are making their car alarm sound on their Teslas like things, but you know, you know how you can do that? You make like fart sounds or whatever.

• 48:00Joe Rogan?

  That was like a scene in movies, right? Where the phone would play "Bad to the bone." "Bad to the bone," yeah.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 48:11Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember when you would call people and music would play?

• 48:14Speaker 02

  Ring back tones.

• 48:15Joe Rogan?

  Yes! Their, their tone of their and you would hear, you would hear a shitty song. You're like, "God, you're making me listen to this."

• 48:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, now, now you don't wanna do any of that, because you don't want anyone to know that's your phone number, you know what I mean? Like, you're like

• 48:32Joe Rogan?

  You don't wanna go super specific.

• 48:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, right, yeah. I used to be like, "This is Brian, man," you know, now fuck that.

• 48:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, people used to always have like funny things that they would leave, "Hey."

• 48:42Speaker 02

  Joey Diaz. "The cocksucker, hang up the phone."

• 48:47Joe Rogan?

  For the

• 48:49Joe Rogan?

  He's the last one. When you get a text from him, to this day, I'm like, really?

• 48:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, he texts us more nowadays. It's kinda cool. It's kinda cool.

• 48:57Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 48:59Joe Rogan?

  You know the torture he put you through when you would try to text him?

• 49:04Speaker 02

  Or with the laptop in the green room one time, he's like bending my finger backwards. I said, turn that off, Cox. I'm like, alright, Julian.

• 49:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he didn't like the laptop.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  He didn't like technology.

• 49:13Joe Rogan?

  He was fighting technology tooth and nail, but he's right in a lot of ways, you know?

• 49:19Joe Rogan?

  It's just, I feel like the people that fight technology right now in 2025, it's like, what are you doing? What are you, come on? You can't beat this thing.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:29Joe Rogan?

  You better just adjust to the new world, son. Are you gonna be out in the fucking field with a horse-driven plow? Adjust to the new world, okay? Just have some fun. Whatever this is, you're not gonna stop it. This motherfucker's rolling down the hill.

• 49:46Joe Rogan?

  Like, no one's hitting the brakes on technology now, unless, unless like a big event happens. Unless like a boom, some big asteroid hits us, or China implements those really good drones.

• 50:01Speaker 02

  All the drones come out, wake up.

• 50:03Joe Rogan?

  I think the Trump administration just said they were gonna buy a million drones.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  Wow, that's good timing for banning a whole drone company. I actually heard a rumor, I never looked in it, that uh, some, about that, where the owner of that drone company is like owned by the vice president of the United States of America.

• 50:20Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 50:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:21Joe Rogan?

  JD Vance?

• 50:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think JD has like, see, I haven't researched it yet, so I don't know if it's true, but that, that's hilarious if it's true because we just canceled DJI, and now.

• 50:32Joe Rogan?

  And he owns?

• 50:33Speaker 02

  I, I read that somewhere, but never researched it.

• 50:36Joe Rogan?

  What specifically we'll find out?

• 50:37Speaker 02

  It was the, supposedly the vice, I think it was the vice president owns a, or is invested, invested in a drone company, and, and the US is buying all these drones from it.

• 50:50Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. I might be wrong. That's an important thing to get correct. I forgot. We might have to edit this out if it's not correct. Right. Young Jamie, put that into our sponsor, Perplexity. And find out whether or not, we have an AI sponsor. Perplexity, I like them, they're awesome. They're great.

• 51:10Joe Rogan?

  Let's see if it has information. So there's one thing, it's like, you can be an investor, right? Like, maybe you have a stock portfolio and you invest in a bunch of different companies because someone told you they're really good four years ago. When you become the vice president, are you supposed to get rid of those now? How's that work? Yeah, I would think you, well. It gets a little Nancy Pelosi-ish. Maybe no new investments. We don't even know if he does have stock in it, if it's true. It's probably not real, no way. Significant ties.

• 51:45Joe Rogan?

  Make that a little larger, please, oh my god. This is the first sentence. J.D. Vance has significant ties to the drone and broader defense technology industry through his previous career as a venture capitalist. Before entering political office, Vance co-founded and managed funds that invested in several defense-related startups, including the companies at forefront of drone, aerospace, and surveillance technology.

• 52:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so, okay, this is Anduril, this is, uh...

• 52:20Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 52:23Joe Rogan?

  Interesting, okay. Leading...

• 52:28Joe Rogan?

  Can you put that back up so I can finish this?

• 52:32Joe Rogan?

  Leading defense tech startups specializing in autonomous systems, including drones. Palmer Lucky was on the podcast, he's, this is his company too. Oh. He brought these, those crazy headsets where you could see people behind the walls. Bro. Yeah, that shit's awesome. That's all the same company.

• 52:51Joe Rogan?

  Benefiting from new federal legislation and growing demand for advanced military drone surveillance and automation. Boy, we're so close to the Terminator.

• 53:02Joe Rogan?

  Okay, here it is. Federal Financing Disclosure Form Show That Vance Maintained Those Investments, Sometimes Valued in the Hundreds of Thousands While Serving as Vice President, Although Ethical Boundaries About Recusal and Direct Control Over Such Assets Are Subject to Federal Ethics Rules. So there's federal ethics rules as to what happens? Like if he passes a law that benefits that company that he has a significant stake in?

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:29Joe Rogan?

  Vance has publicly commented on the national security dimensions of drone technology, criticizing the risk posed by foreign, particularly Chinese drone manufacturers, and advocating for US-made autonomous systems in both military and civil sectors. Well, that is accurate, though. It is a problem. And it's not just a problem because... There's like a bunch of problems. One of them is, in America, to operate some drones when they get really high-end, you have to have a pilot's license.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  Not if it weighs under 250 grams, which is what, you know, they're like the really nice, small ones.

• 54:06Joe Rogan?

  Right, but to have one of the ones that they were buzzing in New Jersey with.

• 54:09Speaker 02

  The big ones.

• 54:10Joe Rogan?

  When they were flying those weird ones.

• 54:11Speaker 02

  The farm ones, yes.

• 54:12Joe Rogan?

  What do you think those were? Do you think those were like government drones that they're testing? Probably this company.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably that company.

• 54:17Joe Rogan?

  Probably Palmer Lucky with a fucking joystick.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  Assassinated.

• 54:21Joe Rogan?

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• 55:05Joe Rogan?

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• 55:21Joe Rogan?

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• 56:06Joe Rogan?

  Don't have insurance or live outside of the United States? You can still get 10% off your first month. Visit betterhelp.com to explore your payment options. That's better H E L P dot com. Palmer Lucky's sitting at home with an Xbox.

• 56:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, with his little Game Boy thing.

• 56:24Joe Rogan?

  Dude, he was one of those guys where you're talking to and like right away you're like, "Oh, okay." Like, "You're crazy smart." Like, this is weird smart. You know what I mean?

• 56:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:33Joe Rogan?

  Some dudes are weird, like Elon's weird smart. There's people that are weird smart. You're like, "Oh, okay."

• 56:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, Palmer's a badass, man.

• 56:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:41Speaker 02

  Like, I saw an interview with him and it just showed like his living room or something and it just looks like my living room, like nerd stuff everywhere, you know?

• 56:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, for sure. He had a copper jacket on.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  A copper jacket?

• 56:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's copper. I go, "What is it?" He's like, "The whole jacket's like a Faraday cage." Like, you put your jacket in, you put your phone in the pocket, it disappears.

• 57:01Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 57:02Joe Rogan?

  And I was like, "Whoa." It was heavy.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sure.

• 57:05Joe Rogan?

  I put it on, I was like, "This is weird." And you're like, "You can't move so good in it."

• 57:09Speaker 02

  $20 worth of pennies.

• 57:11Joe Rogan?

  Probably at least. Probably at least. It was weird. It's a weird thing to own, a copper jacket, but it's very Palmer Lucky-esque. You know what I mean?

• 57:20Speaker 02

  That's interesting.

• 57:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so this drone thing, like, so China has been investing, like, the way it works, their government and their corporations are like this. They work together and they work together for China. Like, and you don't have a choice. Like, you can make a lot of money, but you do what the fuck we tell you to do, bitch. And that's how they run things over there. And because of that, they can dump a ton of money into these things for the future of China and boost them up and make them work. And then they all compete, they compete against each other in China, you know, and it's, it's like a weird hybrid of capitalism and communism. It's very strange. And they have a giant head start. Like, they do drone shows. You've seen the shows?

• 58:04Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, they have like dragons in the sky and samurais.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Have you ever been to one?

• 58:08Joe Rogan?

  No, like, ah, I saw a small one at Coda.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:12Joe Rogan?

  At the Circuit of the Americas out here.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:13Joe Rogan?

  It was pretty dope. But the ones they do are nuts. They're nuts.

• 58:17Speaker 02

  They just had like one of the biggest ones ever recently.

• 58:20Joe Rogan?

  See, we can find some video on some China drone shows.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:23Joe Rogan?

  They're, it's incredible. And their, their drones are more advanced. They, they, they're pushing their technology faster and, you know, that stuff works exponentially. And if you put the brakes on American technology, you also put the brakes on American manufacturing.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  Look at that. That's nuts.

• 58:40Joe Rogan?

  It's insane. Each one of those is a drone. That's nuts, dude. I mean, that literally looks like something from Avatar.

• 58:47Speaker 02

  Dude, yes.

• 58:48Joe Rogan?

  Right? Look at that. That's insane.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  DMT trip right there.

• 58:52Joe Rogan?

  That's insane. Look at this. There's an enormous flower that's at the end of this little girl's kite rope. Look at, they did the moon.

• 59:00Speaker 02

  Spinning.

• 59:01Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. Is that, wait a minute, hold on. Are those real?

• 59:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's real.

• 59:06Joe Rogan?

  That's real for sure, for sure?

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's just on, uh, that's the one I was talking about, the, the largest one ever.

• 59:14Joe Rogan?

  This is the largest one ever? Was it that that we just saw?

• 59:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is just how they do it.

• 59:23Joe Rogan?

  Look at how many drones they have. How many drones are involved in this?

• 59:27Speaker 02

  I think it said 10,000 drones.

• 59:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. This is insane.

• 59:31Speaker 02

  They charge up 10,000 drones.

• 59:33Joe Rogan?

  Dudes are doing kung fu in the sky.

• 59:35Speaker 02

  I mean, that's nuts.

• 59:36Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 59:39Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 59:43Joe Rogan?

  That's so impressive, man.

• 59:44Speaker 02

  It really is.

• 59:45Joe Rogan?

  And that they're all just sync- oh my god. Like, come on, man. At one point in time,

• 59:53Joe Rogan?

  some- sometime in the near future, that-

• 59:58Joe Rogan?

  that, I mean, they're gonna be able to do whatever they want in the sky.

• 1:00:01Speaker 05

  We also have the sphere in America. They don't have a sphere.

• 1:00:04Joe Rogan?

  You mean the big building?

• 1:00:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, okay.

• 1:00:07Speaker 05

  Well, I'm just saying.

• 1:00:08Joe Rogan?

  I get it. The sphere's pretty dope.

• 1:00:10Speaker 05

  They're probably watching that, like, why don't we have that? Why can't we go watch music like that?

• 1:00:13Joe Rogan?

  But at some point in time, they're gonna be able to have movies in the sky that are made out of drones.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Drones. Yeah, every drone's gonna be like an LED and then it's gonna replace, you know?

• 1:00:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, you'll be forced to watch a movie. You'll be forced to lay down on your lawn and watch a movie in the sky.

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:28Joe Rogan?

  Like, why wouldn't they be able- if they can do that, this is very primitive, right? This is primitive, this is like the Pong version of what the- it just- they're just gonna have trillions of little tiny drones that all sync up in the sky. And they all make different colors.

• 1:00:44Speaker 02

  Ten thousand, that's just like, you know, the- this, like, small pixel, you know, we're gonna have like 4K drones everywhere.

• 1:00:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, someone used a drone jammer and they started falling out of the sky.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:54Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. Do you see what they're doing in Ukraine because of the drone jammers? They use monofilament line, so each one of them has like a fiber optic line. That's nuts.

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:06Joe Rogan?

  So they have like miles and miles of fishing line, and then all these birds are making nests out of it and shit?

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's how that, uh, government mission happened because of that, uh, where he was like in that, uh, in that truck or something like that, and he- all those drones came out of the truck and did all those strikes in, I think it was the Ukraine or something like that, uh...

• 1:01:27Joe Rogan?

  What happened?

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, right?

• 1:01:29Joe Rogan?

  What exactly happened?

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  So, you- they had to use those- those fiber optic lines. Uh, there was a, I think it was Ukraine, I don't remember what country it is, but they got over the border of whatever country it was, and they had all these drones with those fiber optic lines and did drone strikes from the inside, uh, that the Ukraine watched. I couldn't remember, uh, on Russian soil.

• 1:01:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right, right, right. This was the crazy- When they blew up all the

• 1:01:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:01:53Joe Rogan?

  Jets that were, uh,

• 1:01:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:55Joe Rogan?

  On the runway.

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  And they used that fiber optic line. That's how they got those drones.

• 1:02:00Joe Rogan?

  That's how they got it. So the drones can't be disrupted.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  Right, or detected or whatever too.

• 1:02:05Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:02:06Speaker 02

  That's like James Bond. I mean, that's just like Mission Impossible shit.

• 1:02:10Joe Rogan?

  The fact that, yeah, that actually happened. They really did do that. And I think they caused like seven billion dollars worth of damage.

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. Yeah.

• 1:02:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Bro, that war is. One day, 24 hours, I'll have a deal. There's no deal to be made, sir.

• 1:02:28Joe Rogan?

  You know, that Putin fellow is making a point.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:32Joe Rogan?

  It's not a good one. How many people have died now? I mean, what is the total on both sides? I mean, it's gotta be off the charts.

• 1:02:41Speaker 02

  What is going on with, was it, uh, we're in war with all those drug runners and Trump keeps on blowing up a boat every day?

• 1:02:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  That's kind of crazy, right?

• 1:02:50Joe Rogan?

  My question is, how verified is this evidence?

• 1:02:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, how much, you know, because if I was a fisherman and like there's another guy was a fisherman, like this cocksucker, this guy is always stealing my fucking fish. And then I would go, uh, Mr. Trump. This man, he have Fentanyl, thousand pounds coming to you. I give you the boat number.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it happens a lot. I think two happened yesterday or today.

• 1:03:16Joe Rogan?

  Apple tracker.

• 1:03:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:18Joe Rogan?

  On his fucking, on his bait pile. Yeah, it's, um, it's weird.

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:03:25Joe Rogan?

  Here we go. Boom. That's a wrap. Who is still piling in those boats?

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 1:03:30Joe Rogan?

  Imagine how you, how poor do you have to be before that seems like a good idea?

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:03:35Joe Rogan?

  Pretty fucking poor.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  It just makes me wonder though, if these boats, if there's like innocent people on them too, like,

• 1:03:42Joe Rogan?

  For sure, this guy's bringing his girlfriend. Come on, baby. We're gonna go to the US. Once we get to San Diego.

• 1:03:48Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. There was one boat where people actually survived it, which is crazier.

• 1:03:54Joe Rogan?

  Bro, what kind of a story do they have? Is these people that survived, are they uh, actual drug people? Or are they just like, deep sea fishing?

• 1:04:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Did you see that helicopter, like four people died? It's one of the most irritating, frustrating video ever. It just happened yesterday. This helicopter lost its...

• 1:04:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I did see that, yeah.

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  And then landed twice on the water, and then for some reason went back up, and then...

• 1:04:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:04:22Joe Rogan?

  I think they probably didn't know that they lost their tail.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  They have to, that's insane.

• 1:04:26Joe Rogan?

  I think they probably thought it could control it, it's probably a guy.

• 1:04:29Speaker 02

  And if I was in that helicopter, I would just open the door and jumped into the water, and hopefully I survived at one point.

• 1:04:34Joe Rogan?

  Hopefully, it doesn't land on you, this asshole's just dropping it left and right.

• 1:04:37Speaker 02

  Oh god.

• 1:04:39Joe Rogan?

  I bet it was a guy. I bet a woman would have like landed on the water. Okay, okay, stop, stop it, how do I stop it? Let's go, we're going in the water! A guy would be like, "I got this, I got this, bro."

• 1:04:49Speaker 02

  Right. That's crazy.

• 1:04:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I wonder what happened? Did he clip the tail somewhere? Like, did he hit something? Or did it fall off?

• 1:04:57Speaker 02

  It looked like he, because it looked like he was supposed to land on that little rock thing, and then it clipped it, then went down and kind of landed on the beach for like, a second. It went up a little, then landed again, and then, he's just flying in the air. I don't even know that was possible without a tail of a helicopter, that seems crazy.

• 1:05:14Joe Rogan?

  Obviously, he can't direct it.

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:05:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Maybe that was the problem, that he couldn't control it. I don't know.

• 1:05:19Speaker 02

  No, that's crazy.

• 1:05:21Joe Rogan?

  Ask Bill Burr.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:22Joe Rogan?

  He flies those things. He took me up above downtown LA, it was amazing. I was like, "This is crazy, like, this is so cool."

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  I don't like heli, I don't...

• 1:05:31Joe Rogan?

  He would take them to gigs sometimes.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  That's crazy. Do you trust helicopter? I don't really, I'm not into it.

• 1:05:36Joe Rogan?

  I trusted it for that day. I'm like, "I'll trust it." It's fun to go up with Bill.

• 1:05:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:42Joe Rogan?

  It was fun to see him, uh, like, really into this hobby he has. I was like, "That's interesting," you know?

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  It's really cool that he does it. He's an interesting guy. I'm surprised you didn't go to Dubai.

• 1:05:55Joe Rogan?

  Me? No. You mean Saudi Arabia?

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  Saudi Arabia. Dubai.

• 1:06:01Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I don't even go to San Francisco.

• 1:06:03Speaker 02

  I know. I'm gonna Glendale.

• 1:06:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you think I'm gonna go to... No, no, no. I think if you chase money when you have money, then money owns you.

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:13Joe Rogan?

  My time is what's valuable to me. And also, I'm not down with that whole thing.

• 1:06:21Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:06:22Joe Rogan?

  There's a, there's definitely a whitewashing.

• 1:06:26Joe Rogan?

  You're, um, you're, you know, Schultz has a great argument. You're going to see your fans. Like, just because this is put on by a government that does bad things, or has done bad things, guess what? Your government does bad things too, and has done bad things. Right? You know, ask people in Yemen how they feel about America. Right? Ask people in Iraq. Ask the million people that died unnecessarily because we lied about weapons of mass destruction. Ask them. Ask them about America. You know? Right. Yeah. It's complicated. I get the argument, like, I have fans in the Middle East, you wanna go see your fans in the Middle East? I get it. How many fans? One? I don't know. I've been a lot. They have the internet, man.

• 1:07:11Joe Rogan?

  I've been a lot. Yeah. They do. It's not like North Korea. They're much more open than other parts of the world. You know, we can't judge them on, well, obviously, we can judge them. But if you wanna be rational, like, they're adjusting. Like, women can drive now. Alright, it's a new thing. It's very recent. Andrew Schultz was telling me, uh, when he was over there, that a lot of people that are over there, they get their wife, like, a cheap Chinese car, 'cause these ladies have never driven before. They just fuck it. They just play bumper cars with everything. They park terrible. They're always fucking their cars up. And these guys have big money. I mean, that's a very wealthy country.

• 1:07:55Joe Rogan?

  You know, so they offered Shane a bag. They offered Shane a bag. He's like, "No." And they doubled it. And they doubled it, and he's like, "No, no." He goes, "It was hard when they doubled it." I'm like, "Of course." That's how they're trying to get you, but... You know, the criticism is all from people that were not invited, which is kinda typical. Yeah. And were, or were never going to be invited. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. It's, um...

• 1:08:28Joe Rogan?

  It'd be good for them to experience comedy because I think comedy is one of the only things that can get discussions going from both sides. Like if you go on stage and you have an opinion, and it's not funny, I could be in the audience, I have a different opinion, I'm like, well fuck this guy, I don't agree with that at all. But if you go on stage with an opinion that makes me laugh, even if I don't agree with it, I'm like, oh this motherfucker, he got me. He got me, that's a good point, that's a good point, and you're like giving your buddies knuckles, that's a good point. That's like where comedy breaks down doors. Unfortunately, there was like restrictions put on you, which is another reason why I wouldn't do it. Like if someone says, you can't say this, or you can't say that, I'm like, okay.

• 1:09:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then you say something like, well, I didn't think about that, you shouldn't have said that either, we're gonna...

• 1:09:16Joe Rogan?

  Right, they have laws, there's laws, like if you went over there and made fun of a prince, or a king, or a royal, or the government, or whatever, you're in real trouble. Like you could go to jail forever, trouble. That doesn't make me feel loose.

• 1:09:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:09:33Joe Rogan?

  You know, that doesn't make me feel like I want to do stand-up in a place like that.

• 1:09:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, almost like the UK.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  Yikes.

• 1:09:42Joe Rogan?

  They're worse than anybody, that's what's funny, most people don't even know. They're, most Americans are blissfully unaware of how crazy censorship has gotten in the UK.

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  And crime.

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  Off the charts, crime and censorship because people are complaining about the crime.

• 1:09:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:00Joe Rogan?

  That's really what the censorship is all about, because it's all about immigrants.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, pickpocketers everywhere.

• 1:10:04Joe Rogan?

  Bro, they just brought in people from places they bombed. How wild is that? Like, oh, did we ruin your country? So sorry. Come on over and live in London.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  Saudi Arabia of them.

• 1:10:20Joe Rogan?

  All the places that the West has bombed the shit out of and you create all these refugees and then you bring them to your country. Like, what are you doing?

• 1:10:29Speaker 02

  It's insane.

• 1:10:30Joe Rogan?

  Why you, why don't you have a vetting process? Are you trying to ruin everything? And that's where I think it gets weird because I think like, under the guise of empathy and under the guise of kindness, they are engineering the destruction of major Western cities. And the question is like, who? Well, George Soros is the big one that everybody points to. But he can't be acting alone. There's gotta be a lot of other people that also want the same result. And you gotta go, well, why? And the more I think about it, the more I think about it with its accelerated pace right now, because it's so accelerated, the more I think it's connected to the, to the ultimate,

• 1:11:12Joe Rogan?

  the, the, the ultimate birth of AI, when AI really does become the global force for everything. They're gonna want you already locked in to like, digital ID. And that's the first response that England has had to all these problems. It's not stop immigration. It's not crack down, find the criminals, arrest them. No, no, no. It's put everybody on digital ID to keep us all safe. And that's, so once you, see, if they do have AI, AI's in control of everything. Everything you do, all your money, all your food, all your groceries, they put carbon taxes on you so they can complete control you. You have a carbon allotment. So if you go over your carbon footprint, they're fucking, you can't travel anymore.

• 1:11:54Joe Rogan?

  So you're totally locked in. They would want all that stuff in place. And the only way to get that stuff in place is to create chaos. So you wanna like newly su- super restrictive laws. Get people so they're terrified and they want safety. Someone offers a solution and that solution involves them being able to track you everywhere you go and everybody has to have it. Everyone, yes, this is the solution to make us all safe. And the next thing you know, you're in a fucking Orwell book.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  But, on the other side, I do like the idea of having list my driver's license on my phone. Like, you know what I mean, like?

• 1:12:31Joe Rogan?

  Why not just get a chip? Don't be a pussy. Get the forearm chip. You know that's coming.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:37Joe Rogan?

  Get that chip, son.

• 1:12:38Speaker 02

  Brain chip.

• 1:12:39Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, get the brain one. Wait, you know, it's like you don't go right into an iPhone. You get a BlackBerry first.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  Do you think Elon has the brain chip and he's not telling anybody?

• 1:12:47Joe Rogan?

  No, I think Elon's an alien.

• 1:12:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's not real, right?

• 1:12:50Joe Rogan?

  I don't think he's from here. If there's a person that's not from here, that's the guy.

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  Trillion dollar.

• 1:12:58Joe Rogan?

  He's a different kind of human. And he's having fun. That's the thing, man. Like, I'm friends with him. Like, I've hung out with him

• 1:13:06Joe Rogan?

  on air, off air. He's having fun. Like, he's having fun. That's what I want. He's like, works constantly and also always laughing, having a good time. Like, I got to see the SpaceX launch and then Jamie and I were there on the lawn while it was launching. It was crazy. It was two miles away. I thought it was like a quarter of a mile or half a mile, because it's so loud. Two miles. Two miles away. And then I got to sit in the command room and watch them, they had all these monitors, like, I don't know how many different cameras were on this fucking rocket. And we watched it touchdown in Australia 35 minutes later.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  That's so cool.

• 1:13:44Joe Rogan?

  It was wild, dude. But all the way, he's joking around about it blowing up.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:13:50Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Because what they're doing with these is they were running, he was explaining to us on the show that they were running very specific tolerance tests. So they would remove heat shields in critical areas to see whether or not the vehicle will survive. So, one of the things about the blowups, people are like, "Oh, he's a fucking idiot. He keeps blowing up his rockets." They're designed to possibly blow up, because they want to find out what's the, what can it tolerate, right? And so they had removed these heat shields from very specific places, but it still made it. And so it got, it lost pressure, like, somewhere over Australia, and there was like only a 30% chance that it was gonna touch. Down, but it did.

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  Wow, that's so fucking.

• 1:14:34Joe Rogan?

  It's wild, man. It's wild. Why? It's wild how much data they're collecting instantaneously. And it was also practicing this thing that the way it shoots satellites into space. It's like a Pez dispenser. So it has like these things, these satellites are all in a rack. And then this thing opens up that looks like, you know, like, like a ju- just a a long, flat opening like a Pez would come out of. And then they shoot these satellites out of it.

• 1:15:05Joe Rogan?

  And they were practicing that.

• 1:15:07Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 1:15:07Joe Rogan?

  I'm like, this is nuts.

• 1:15:10Joe Rogan?

  This is nuts. It's really weird. Like the door opens up and you you're watching like, this is crazy. I don't think everybody understands how advanced this stuff is. Like, I thought, Jamie, you felt the same way, right? When we were going down to the factory. I thought they'd have a rocket that they built. No, they're building like hundreds of rockets. Like, it's a.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Assembly plant, that kind of style?

• 1:15:34Joe Rogan?

  It's, yeah, it's huge. It's fucking huge, man. At one point in time, what did they say they were gonna be able to do? Three a week?

• 1:15:42Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:15:43Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't it something crazy like that?

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  I don't remember how many. Well, they have to do a lot, but yeah, I don't remember how many.

• 1:15:48Joe Rogan?

  That was the ultimate goal.

• 1:15:49Speaker 02

  I feel like more than that.

• 1:15:50Joe Rogan?

  More than that. Maybe three a day. I don't know. Three a week. Let's just say three a week. Rockets! That can go to space. It's, and the process is fucking bananas. You can't take pictures. I don't even know if we're allowed to get specific, but while you're walking around and you're looking at it, I wouldn't be able to explain it to anybody.

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:16:11Joe Rogan?

  Chinese listening careful.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  What does Rogan say? Pez dispenser.

• 1:16:16Joe Rogan?

  Write that down. Um, but it's it's nuts. They have garage doors that are as high as a fucking skyscraper. And then they roll out a rocket. You're like, yo, this is nuts.

• 1:16:34Joe Rogan?

  It's really like truly nuts. That's awesome. And the outside of it is just like a like a cyber truck factory. Like what is going on here? Whose car is whose? How does anybody know?

• 1:16:48Joe Rogan?

  That's the argument. Like if you ever want to have like if someone's gonna totally completely track everything you do forever, it's gonna be an electric car. Oh, yeah. Right? Mm hmm. Because that's just you're just driving a computer. You didn't even have an engine anymore. Yeah. I mean, it's all everything's electric, electric, computer controlled vehicle that's self. This episode is brought to you by Tacovas. All right, seriously. If you're looking for new boots or shoes this summer, you gotta check out Tacovas. These guys make some super durable and handmade boots. Besides being incredibly comfortable right out of the box, they've also got some great slip ons, perfect for casual summer Fridays.

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• 1:19:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Have you tried one of the robotaxis yet? No fucking way. I would feel like such a scab. I feel like a picket line crosser. I do have a question for you. Have you gotten a colonoscopy? Yeah, I got one. Now, do you go to a regular doctor? Because I was thinking like, does Joe go? You should probably go to a butthole doctor. No, I mean, like, do you go to, like, a private guy? Like, you don't go to, like, where all the other guys? I'm not telling you on air where I get my butthole checked. Like, that's, like, weird. I just had one, and... How's everything up there? Good. Everything's great. That's amazing. Yeah, it's so amazing, right? It doesn't make any sense. What are you thinking about? Why do you abuse your body? But I hate it. They have to roll you, like, when you're getting it,

• 1:20:06Joe Rogan?

  they roll you down this hallway and there's all these, like, people just sitting there looking at you like, oh, it's his turn. Daring at your butthole. Yeah, like, we're really doing it, Red Band, like, type C. And, uh, I, I, that was just, it's just weird. It's not, it's very... Do you get your blood work done? Do you get yourself checked up on? Every, uh, six weeks I do it. Yeah, there's a unique blood screen that they can give you now that checks for all cancers in your body. Really? Oh, shit, I need that. We're just doing it. Uh, Waste of Well will do it. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah, I did it. I got nervous. Yeah. I got nervous like the first time I ever got an AIDS test. I got an AIDS test in the first time. I've been getting them a lot lately. Been getting them a lot lately.

• 1:20:46Speaker 02

  You do it every six weeks?

• 1:20:48Joe Rogan?

  It was in the 90s. I was getting health insurance for the first time. And it was like early 90s, like 92, something like that. I was like, oh no. I was just thinking of all the stupid things that I've ever done.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:21:01Joe Rogan?

  What if I have AIDS and I don't even know it? That's how everybody thought back then.

• 1:21:04Speaker 02

  And then the mosquitoes.

• 1:21:05Joe Rogan?

  And then after a while, everyone was like, hey, no one's really getting AIDS.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:21:10Joe Rogan?

  What's going on?

• 1:21:11Speaker 02

  I was scared of AIDS too.

• 1:21:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, everybody was, dude. I remember the moment I found out that Michael, that Magic Johnson was HIV positive. I was in my car in Revere, Massachusetts, driving down the road.

• 1:21:22Speaker 02

  And you fucked him.

• 1:21:23Joe Rogan?

  And he was right next to me, right next to me, with his dick out. I was like, you didn't tell me.

• 1:21:34Joe Rogan?

  That dude was the first one that everyone was scared, like, oh no, he can get it? If he can get it, he's a superstar.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:41Joe Rogan?

  If Magic Johnson can get it, I'm gonna die. I'm fucked. Oh my God. And I really, we really thought that it was gonna be like a zombie contagion that swept through the world and everyone was gonna die. Because they were talking, like Fauci was on TV talking about children getting it from family members. Like that it was communicable, like, like in the air, like, like the flu. It was so spooky, man. That guy scared the fuck out of everybody when it came to AIDS. Just like he did with COVID. How weird. How weird that he did it again.

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  Isn't it crazy to think that Eazy-E died from AIDS?

• 1:22:14Joe Rogan?

  How did Eazy-E really die, though? He must have taken AZT.

• 1:22:19Joe Rogan?

  You know, the idea that Eazy-E died from AIDS itself, like, it's mostly drug users. That was what, who was dying in the early days of AIDS. And this is what Peter Duesberg said. So Peter Duesberg, he's like a persona non grata in the medical world. And it's because he had a completely different opinion than everybody else when AIDS first came out. He was like, one piece of data they're not taking into consideration is that all these people that have AIDS, Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, not just HIV positive, but all the people that have AIDS, all of them are hardcore drug users. It was like 90 something percent of people that had, air quotes, AIDS.

• 1:23:00Joe Rogan?

  And that they weren't, I don't whether it's political correctness or what, it was a lot of gay party guys and these guys were taking hardcore shit like amyl nitrate, which apparently loosens up the old booty hole, makes it easy to, as the kids say today, bottom. They didn't use to call it bottom back then, they were calling it butt fucking. Now it's bottoming, you know? Have you seen hole tox?

• 1:23:23Speaker 02

  No, what's that?

• 1:23:24Joe Rogan?

  Guys get botox on their hole to make it looser.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 1:23:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, to make bottoming easier. They call it hole tox.

• 1:23:31Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 1:23:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if you leave men to their own devices, they will come up with the worst things to do to themselves.

• 1:23:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:38Joe Rogan?

  But, um, so that was, uh, so Duesberg, his contention, and it was like, I remember we had him on the podcast. And it was the first time we got like violent pushback. People like, you have blood on your hands. I'm like, who's dying of AIDS right now? This, cause this was like 2012 or something. I'm like, who's dying of AIDS? Is this a real thing? Cause I'm just bringing on this guy from the University of California, Berkeley, who's a tenured professor, who did groundbreaking research on cancer, like really respected, until he took this position on HIV that was outside of the Fauci narrative. And he was like, I don't think that's what we're looking at here. He goes, I think HIV is a symptom of someone having a very

• 1:24:19Joe Rogan?

  compromised immune system. I don't think it's a cause. And they were like, you monster. You have blood on your hands. Like, I remember there was an article written in one of those, uh, magazines, like Spin Magazine or something like that.

• 1:24:33Speaker 02

  Spin.

• 1:24:34Joe Rogan?

  Back in the day, you know, when it was like cool.

• 1:24:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:37Joe Rogan?

  But they used to have cool music magazines, like Spin was a cool music magazine.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  There was another one. What was the other one? Max, Max, no.

• 1:24:44Joe Rogan?

  No, Maxim was like a guys magazine, but like, remember Rolling Stone used to be cool? It used to be cool. It was like, before it was like a propaganda arm. It was, uh, it was like you'd get interesting stories and this was in, I think it was Spin Magazine.

• 1:25:02Speaker 02

  Spin, yeah. There was another one that was like Spin. That's what I'm trying to remember.

• 1:25:06Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find Peter Duesberg article AIDS.

• 1:25:11Speaker 05

  EZ died only a month after he was diagnosed.

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  Whoa, he went full blown that fast?

• 1:25:17Speaker 05

  He might've been diagnosed with full blown, I think.

• 1:25:19Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:25:20Speaker 05

  And some rapper thinks it's a conspiracy that he was killed by the government.

• 1:25:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's fun.

• 1:25:25Speaker 02

  I mean, Ice Cube had that whole album saying that he got fucked in the ass by Dr. J and a baseball about no Vaseline or whatever, so.

• 1:25:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, who knows?

• 1:25:37Joe Rogan?

  Don't you remember when Shug Knight was on, I think he was on Jimmy Kimmel Show, talking about how you just inject somebody with AIDS?

• 1:25:43Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:25:44Joe Rogan?

  You can inject them with AIDS?

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Like the mosquitoes.

• 1:25:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, um, what was my question? Oh, Peter Duesberg, Spin Magazine. Yeah, so he wrote this article about it, and then he, I believe he wrote a book about it, but he's fucked. Like, his career completely stalled out after that. He couldn't get funding for things. And, you know, widely dismissed by all, most all, other scientists. And back then, I used to think, it doesn't make sense that this one guy has figured things out and that nobody else does. But now, I'm like, maybe it's the same as what happened during COVID. But maybe back then, there's no internet, and maybe back then, they could just get away with it. Maybe back then, they got used to getting away with it, which is why they tried it again in 2020. That's why they did the exact same thing to all those, like, legitimate professors, legitimate doctors.

• 1:26:34Joe Rogan?

  They shamed them and banned them. They didn't want anybody deviating. And that's, I think, what they might have done to this guy. That's crazy, to think that the whole AIDS crisis might have really been about people destroying their immune system through hardcore drug use. That was his contention. People were saying it's very homophobic. It's like, okay, let's not, let's say a bunch of nice things about gay people. Let's, we love them, we appreciate, you know, I have no problem with gay, let's say it. Like, if you're, if you're talking about this, if you were a doctor back then, gay people are amazing. However, all these gay people are doing drugs. All these gay people that are getting AIDS, like, something like 90% of them were hardcore drug users. This was his contention.

• 1:27:18Joe Rogan?

  And you would say, well, that's what opens them to the type of behavior that you get AIDS with. Like, okay, right, but Sam Kinison had a bit about that. Do you remember his bit? He was like, they say, Sam, AIDS is a communicable disease. Straight people get it too. He goes, name one! Name one fucking guy! Name one! It's not our fucking dance.

• 1:27:43Speaker 05

  He didn't write the article, but he's definitely in the article.

• 1:27:46Joe Rogan?

  Right, there was an article about him.

• 1:27:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no, he didn't write the article. Did I say he wrote it?

• 1:27:50Speaker 05

  No, no, I'm just, for clarification, because I didn't...

• 1:27:52Joe Rogan?

  No, it was an article about, yeah, Bob Guccione, Spin Magazine.

• 1:27:55Speaker 05

  Um, here's what it says.

• 1:27:56Joe Rogan?

  Isn't he the guy that owns Penthouse? I think so, right?

• 1:28:00Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:28:01Joe Rogan?

  Bob Guccione Jr., founder of Spin.

• 1:28:03Speaker 05

  Penthouse? Oh, maybe, yeah, yeah.

• 1:28:05Joe Rogan?

  Maybe. Um...

• 1:28:09Joe Rogan?

  Okay, listen to this. So this is what he wrote, what Bob Guccione Jr. wrote. Um, scroll up a little higher.

• 1:28:19Joe Rogan?

  "At the end of 1989, two years after we started the highly controversial AIDS column, uh, in Spin, we published an article by Cecilia Farber called 'The Sins of Omission', about the truly bad and corrupt science surrounding promoting AZT as a treatment for the syndrome of diseases. Cecilia was the editor and frequent writer of the column and unearthed hard evidence of the cold-bloodedness of the AIDS establishment pushing a drug that was worse than the disease and killed faster than the natural progression of AIDS left untreated. AZT had been an abandoned cancer drug, discarded because of its fatal toxicity,

• 1:29:02Joe Rogan?

  resurrected in the cynical belief that AIDS patients were going to die anyway. So trying it out was sort of like playing with the house's money. Because the drug didn't require the usual massive expensive research and trial processes, having gone through that years earlier, it was insanely profitable for its maker, Burroughs Wellcome. It was a tragically perfect storm of windfall profits, something to pacify AIDS activists and the media, and a convenient boom to the patient holders for HIV testing."

• 1:29:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, patent, excuse me, patent owners, patent holders for HIV testing. Celia, who should get the Congressional Medal of Honor for her brave and relentless reporting, here and throughout the 10 years we ran the column, exposed the worthlessness of the drug, the shady studies and deals to suppress the negative findings and its awful and final consequences. This piece was, this piece very literally changed the media's view of AIDS and sharpened their discerning and skeptical eye. And soon after AZT was once again shelved, hopefully this time forever. Many times over the years since, people have come up to me and said that reading this article saved their lives.

• 1:30:15Joe Rogan?

  That they either stopped taking the drug and their health improved vastly, or they never took it because of what we reported. Nothing ever made me prouder, Bob Guccione Jr., founder of Spin, October 3rd, 2015. So this is all, this article is all about Peter Duesberg's perspective on this. And it's very complicated and it's certainly not for me, a guy like me, to figure out if he's telling the truth or if he's correct. But what they said about AZT and chemotherapy and pushing AZT through and how they made a bunch of money, that's all true. They were, not only that, but they were giving AZT to people that showed no symptoms, like Arthur Ashe.

• 1:30:58Joe Rogan?

  Arthur Ashe tested positive, they gave him AZT. There's a bunch of people died from taking AZT that probably didn't have to die. Right. That's scary shit, man. If it's the same guy that pushed the vaccine during the AIDS crisis, during the COVID crisis, it's kinda fucked that he got to do it twice. Serial killer. And if he didn't do it twice, nobody probably would be aware that it was the same guy. Because even if you know about AZT, nobody was going Anthony Fauci. Nobody was saying that guy's name. You know, you weren't saying, when you would talk about the AIDS crisis, even, they even made a movie about it, right? Dallas Buyers Club. That's the fucking movie. That's what it's about. The bad guy in Dallas Buyers Club is Anthony Fauci. Really? Yes. I need to re-watch it.

• 1:31:43Joe Rogan?

  That's the guy keeping them from getting other medications and pushing AZT. They did the same thing. We played a video the other day where Fauci's talking about AZT. The reason why they use it is because it's both safe and effective. He used the exact same terminology.

• 1:32:00Joe Rogan?

  Fucking wild.

• 1:32:01Speaker 02

  It's wild.

• 1:32:02Joe Rogan?

  And then, when Biden's leaving office, he gives him a pardon. Big old juicy pardon.

• 1:32:08Speaker 02

  That's ridiculous.

• 1:32:09Joe Rogan?

  It's kinda funny. It is kinda funny, right? It's like, god, when it's so in your face. The corruption's so like, up your ass and in your face, like, brrrr.

• 1:32:24Joe Rogan?

  What are you gonna do?

• 1:32:24Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:32:25Joe Rogan?

  Move to New York, become a socialist. Try that out.

• 1:32:30Speaker 02

  No, thanks. That's gonna be interesting to see what happens in New York.

• 1:32:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, most likely, he's not gonna be able to do most of the stuff he said he was gonna do.

• 1:32:37Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:32:38Joe Rogan?

  Because he'll find out, you can't.

• 1:32:39Speaker 02

  Oh, I heard all these CEOs are moving out of there, and the stock market, I heard, is moving. I don't know if that's real. Is that real? Stock market's moving to Texas, I heard?

• 1:32:46Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:32:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:47Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:32:48Speaker 05

  Stock market here. It's similar, but I don't think it's the same.

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  Same?

• 1:32:51Joe Rogan?

  But you gotta have a Ten Commandments on the wall, and, uh, you check your gun at the door.

• 1:32:57Speaker 02

  I just got my first gun, I can't wait to shoot it.

• 1:32:58Joe Rogan?

  Congratulations.

• 1:32:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:59Joe Rogan?

  What'd you get?

• 1:33:00Speaker 02

  It's so easy. Uh, Shadow Systems War Poet.

• 1:33:03Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, War Poet?

• 1:33:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:05Joe Rogan?

  That sounds like something Aubrey Marcus.

• 1:33:06Speaker 02

  Right? The whole time, I'm like, wait, is this Aubrey's gun?

• 1:33:10Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna signature gun.

• 1:33:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, Shadow System, though. It's like a Glock 19-ish, you know?

• 1:33:16Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:33:17Speaker 02

  But...

• 1:33:17Joe Rogan?

  Nine millimeter?

• 1:33:18Speaker 02

  Nine millimeter.

• 1:33:18Joe Rogan?

  Have you gone to the range yet?

• 1:33:20Speaker 02

  Not yet. I need to go. I wanna get a scope for it, though, too, like, one of those laser scopes.

• 1:33:24Joe Rogan?

  Red dot. It's called a red dot. Don't say a scope.

• 1:33:26Speaker 02

  A scope. And, of course, I need to get a silencer and all the fun stuff.

• 1:33:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, god.

• 1:33:33Speaker 02

  But it's so crazy how easy it is. You know, I didn't know it was literally walk in, go, I want a gun, and they do a little background check, and go, here's your gun. Like, you don't have to register it, and...

• 1:33:43Joe Rogan?

  They just make sure you're not a criminal.

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  Right. Yeah. It's great.

• 1:33:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's better.

• 1:33:48Speaker 02

  And you don't even need to do that. You could literally give somebody a gun in this state, and go, here, that's your gun now. Like, gift a gun. That's...

• 1:33:53Joe Rogan?

  The craziest thing about this country is the place with the most gun violence are the cities that have the tightest gun control.

• 1:33:59Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:34:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Like, boy, you talk about counterintuitive. Yeah. I wonder if that's our same problem with drugs. I really do. I mean, I don't necessarily think it's gonna be good to have all drugs legal and sold everywhere. I just don't think it's necessarily good for us. But also, it's not good to not do it. It's not good to like, make it illegal because then people are just gonna get it somewhere else. Right, and bad versions of it. This is my argument against gambling, too. Like, especially online gambling. You know, if online gambling becomes somehow or another illegal, like if they stop with these apps, like, let's say some people decide, look, there's so many people that are losing their money and going crazy

• 1:34:43Joe Rogan?

  and getting addicted to sports books, that we're gonna have to ban all these apps that allow you to bet on sports. And then there's a scandal that happened with the NBA, and there's another scandal with the UFC. So it's clear that organized crime is getting involved and people are trying to make money with rigging bets and shit like that. So we're gonna make it illegal. You think people are gonna stop betting? It's just gonna be like, they're in the prohibition. During the prohibition, what do they do? They went out and they fucking bought illegal booze. They're gonna go out and they're gonna support illegal gambling. They're gonna go to people's houses where they're gonna have poker games and they're gonna get robbed. You know, it's gonna, you're just gonna open people up to crime.

• 1:35:24Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna open people up to the kind of people that are willing to risk their freedom in order to have an illegal game so they can make money. Those are wild people, man. That's the same people bringing in fentanyl. That's why they have to blow these boats up. The reason why they have to blow these boats up is because fentanyl's coming in. The reason why fentanyl's coming in is because we don't have legal drugs. We have to get it illegally and we got a shit ton of junkies. The drugs are illegal, but they're somehow or another getting here to the point where they've ruined Portland. The whole city is filled with junkies. You got people, like, homeless people everywhere, complete chaos. It's all drugs.

• 1:36:02Speaker 02

  I think that fentanyl bin looks sexy on a girl, though.

• 1:36:04Joe Rogan?

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• 1:36:45Joe Rogan?

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• 1:37:29Joe Rogan?

  These fucking dudes are like on the street, like literally looking at their asshole. It's crazy. Looking back at their asshole, one leg forward, like face sniffing their own butt and somehow or another they just hold that position with like their hand out here like this. It's crazy. It must feel so good. But legal gambling is what's killing Vegas, right? Like the whole, Vegas is in a lot of trouble. Vegas is in a little bit of trouble. I think the problem with Vegas is things got super expensive. They started charging people for parking, you know, they stopped giving as many free drinks at the tables, you know, there's some, but that might've been in response to losing money too. I don't know. But that's what a lot of people complain about. Yeah.

• 1:38:14Joe Rogan?

  And that's sad because I mean that's. Vegas is a tricky place because if you could do what you could do everywhere and not have to go to Vegas for it, what is it to have for you? Right. All it has is like big event centers and the fact that you go there for a vacation. So like, that's why they're trying to get people to do, like, they do residencies. You know, like Celine Dion had the residency there and I think, um, what's his face? Garth Brooks had a residency there.

• 1:38:43Speaker 02

  And a sphere.

• 1:38:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:44Speaker 02

  They have to make stuff like that.

• 1:38:45Joe Rogan?

  The sphere.

• 1:38:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like you can only go, there's, they're building some extra spheres, right?

• 1:38:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:52Speaker 05

  The original goal is to have three of them and I think now they've reeled back on that. There's a smaller one I saw getting made somewhere.

• 1:38:59Speaker 02

  Those mini spheres are blowing up now everywhere. They just opened up one in Dallas and I want to invest in that company.

• 1:39:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's a separate thing.

• 1:39:06Joe Rogan?

  That's a separate thing, but there's one place that allows you to be in front of a screen that is so big, it feels like you're on the field, right?

• 1:39:15Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:39:15Joe Rogan?

  I've seen those.

• 1:39:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:39:16Joe Rogan?

  That the one we're talking about?

• 1:39:17Speaker 05

  It's weirdly called Cosm and I don't think it's related to the other place.

• 1:39:21Joe Rogan?

  It's not.

• 1:39:21Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 1:39:22Joe Rogan?

  Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, that's his. Alex Gray, leave him alone. He owns Cosm, you can't call it Cosm.

• 1:39:29Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:39:29Joe Rogan?

  You know? That's Chapel of Sacred Mirrors.

• 1:39:32Speaker 05

  They made that sweet Matrix version of the movie that's lame.

• 1:39:35Speaker 02

  I want to see that.

• 1:39:35Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 1:39:36Speaker 05

  I'll show you, I'll show you. It's insane.

• 1:39:38Speaker 02

  You haven't seen this?

• 1:39:39Joe Rogan?

  No. Cosm did this?

• 1:39:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can still go. I think, I think they have it in Dallas. I want to go so that.

• 1:39:44Speaker 05

  It's called Matrix in Shared Reality.

• 1:39:46Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:39:47Speaker 05

  Uh, let me find the video of the Matrix.

• 1:39:48Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  This is a company I want to invest in, I think.

• 1:39:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's the greatest way to see a fight.

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:55Joe Rogan?

  It's probably better than going live.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  It is, probably.

• 1:39:58Speaker 05

  It's the same screen, you're watching it there. But like, that's the movie in the middle and then they've added all the extra shit around it to like, add whatever, you know, nonsense shit to look at, but. They did a similar thing with the Wizard of Oz. Like, I saw people complaining, the Wizard of Oz, that the sphere is full of AI. Cause they expanded the screen.

• 1:40:17Joe Rogan?

  But they did it, right.

• 1:40:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, I've seen shit though. It looks kinda neat.

• 1:40:20Speaker 02

  It looks badass, like.

• 1:40:21Speaker 05

  They got the tornado flying around in the sphere.

• 1:40:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, why are people upset?

• 1:40:24Speaker 05

  Cause people are nonsense.

• 1:40:25Joe Rogan?

  They want the old one. You can still get the old one.

• 1:40:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:29Joe Rogan?

  It's not the spear. You're at the Sphere, shut the fuck up, enjoy it.

• 1:40:33Speaker 02

  Flying monkeys in the sphere.

• 1:40:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I want it to be like the old one. I want it to be grainy and make me feel about like apple pie. Remind me of the olden days.

• 1:40:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:43Joe Rogan?

  When that was a good movie. Bro, you know how many people died from the Wizard of Oz?

• 1:40:47Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:40:48Joe Rogan?

  Like, like, how many people got sick? Like, that dude that had the Tin Man? That guy got fucked up from that stuff.

• 1:40:54Speaker 02

  Makeup, yeah.

• 1:40:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:55Speaker 02

  A lot of shit happened.

• 1:40:56Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 1:40:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:58Joe Rogan?

  The makeup got him.

• 1:40:59Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. There was, I, I think, over ten things that happened like, like that on the Wizard of Oz. There's a lot of shit like happened, like... Well, I don't know if that hanging guy was real, but remember that guy?

• 1:41:12Joe Rogan?

  Did someone hang themselves?

• 1:41:13Speaker 02

  Hung himself and he... Was that real? I don't think that was real, right?

• 1:41:15Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:41:16Speaker 05

  It's definitely like one of the longest lasting urban myths about it, though.

• 1:41:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:20Joe Rogan?

  But like, what happened to the Tin Man?

• 1:41:22Speaker 02

  It was the makeup that...

• 1:41:24Joe Rogan?

  Right, but what happened to him?

• 1:41:25Speaker 05

  I'm looking it up.

• 1:41:26Joe Rogan?

  I think it was bad. You gotta imagine, like, how toxic is that stuff?

• 1:41:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:41:32Joe Rogan?

  Especially back then. This was like back when they had the radium girls. Do you know about that?

• 1:41:37Speaker 02

  The witch, the witch had something happen to her, too.

• 1:41:39Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. Buddy Epsom, originally cast in roles of Woodman, AKA the Tin Man, was essentially poisoned by the makeup, which was made of pure aluminum dust. Oh my god. Nine days after filming started, he was hospitalized, sitting under an oxygen tent. When he was not getting better fast enough, filmmakers hired Jack Haley to be the Tin Man instead. This time, instead of applying aluminum powder, the makeup artist mixed it into a paste and painted it on him. He did develop an infection in his right eye that needed medical attention, but it ended up being treatable. So that guy, they just left him...

• 1:42:10Speaker 05

  This guy lost it? He lost the role?

• 1:42:11Joe Rogan?

  He lost the role.

• 1:42:12Speaker 02

  Wow, that sucks.

• 1:42:13Joe Rogan?

  So whatever happened to him afterwards?

• 1:42:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:15Joe Rogan?

  Let's find out what happened to Buddy Epsom after the... Let's see, what if he survived?

• 1:42:21Joe Rogan?

  No, that can't be him.

• 1:42:24Speaker 02

  Wait, that's the original guy. Wait.

• 1:42:25Joe Rogan?

  That's him?

• 1:42:26Speaker 05

  I mean, they replaced him.

• 1:42:27Joe Rogan?

  It can't, right, but it can't be Buddy Ebsen from the Beverly Hillbillies. It can't be the same guy.

• 1:42:33Speaker 05

  I mean, how many?

• 1:42:34Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm saying. How many Buddy Ebsens are there? What did that just say?

• 1:42:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, it's him.

• 1:42:38Joe Rogan?

  That's him?

• 1:42:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:39Joe Rogan?

  So he got lucky.

• 1:42:41Speaker 05

  Maybe. Maybe it never would have been Jed Clampett, because it couldn't have been the Tin Man.

• 1:42:45Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 1:42:47Speaker 02

  Man, his face looks like a Tin Man now that you look at it.

• 1:42:49Joe Rogan?

  Is that definitely the same guy? Does it say that?

• 1:42:53Speaker 05

  Right here. Best known for rules is Jed Clampett in Barnaby Jones.

• 1:42:56Joe Rogan?

  Right, right. But, but does it say that he was in?

• 1:43:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a little Tin Man, like, the second picture over.

• 1:43:03Joe Rogan?

  I know, but that might be the other one. Is that the same guy? Well, we'll look in his Wikipedia.

• 1:43:08Speaker 05

  I think there's two different famous Buddy Ebsens.

• 1:43:11Joe Rogan?

  I know, what are the odds? Well, the other guy, maybe he's dead, maybe he didn't get famous. This guy jacked his name.

• 1:43:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's signed by MGM.

• 1:43:17Joe Rogan?

  Wizard of Oz, there it is. Wow, that's him. He was the original Wizard of Oz.

• 1:43:24Speaker 02

  Sexy, sexy Tin Man.

• 1:43:26Joe Rogan?

  Poisoned his ass. That's nuts, man.

• 1:43:30Speaker 05

  The witch also got sick off of her stuff.

• 1:43:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she was wearing green, right?

• 1:43:34Speaker 05

  Burns from the makeup.

• 1:43:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she got burned.

• 1:43:35Speaker 02

  That was false.

• 1:43:36Speaker 05

  Copper makeup.

• 1:43:37Joe Rogan?

  Copper makeup so it wouldn't seep through her wounds and become toxic. Unlike Ebsen, she didn't get fired because they could live without her on the set for several more weeks. Oh, my God.

• 1:43:49Speaker 02

  Then it's false, the actor didn't hang himself.

• 1:43:52Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, and one of them playing the munchkins?

• 1:43:56Joe Rogan?

  Whoo. True, someone stepped on Toto. Oh, no.

• 1:44:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, those movies are weird to watch now, because you realize that wasn't that long ago, in terms of human history, and people were just weird back then.

• 1:44:14Speaker 02

  Nuts.

• 1:44:14Joe Rogan?

  So what is the sphere version of the Wizard of Oz look like?

• 1:44:17Speaker 02

  So they, they, as an example, it's normal in the middle.

• 1:44:21Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:44:21Speaker 02

  But then they built everything around it. So like, when there's a tornado, the original movie just had like a little spinning tornado. Now they make this humongous tornado, like where you could see like the clouds in the sky and this monster trunk of a tornado. It, it's so awesome.

• 1:44:36Joe Rogan?

  Who would complain about that?

• 1:44:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, people just hear AI, don't change my movies and they're like. I went to see, I just wanted to see a big version of the same old shitty movie. Right. And while that tornado is going on, they have like things flying through the air and for real.

• 1:44:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, like drones?

• 1:44:50Speaker 02

  No, no, like, things that are supposed to look like dust and stuff, like, look at it.

• 1:44:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, that's amazing.

• 1:44:56Speaker 05

  Giant fans in there and they throw debris in the air and shit.

• 1:44:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow. Oh my god, that's incredible. Why would anybody complain about that? You know, when they did the UFC there, um, I think the, it was at least twenty million. Oh, they spread it out? Do that again, show that again?

• 1:45:15Speaker 05

  They had the ad stuff that actors would have been doing, that you'd never know what they would, that's, that's what I saw people were mad about, whether it really mattered or not.

• 1:45:22Joe Rogan?

  It's fake.

• 1:45:23Speaker 02

  Well, no, no, this is, this is like not the final version, like that's.

• 1:45:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's when they're working on it?

• 1:45:28Speaker 02

  That's when they were working on it still, but, yeah.

• 1:45:31Joe Rogan?

  So they had to have them walk into the scene?

• 1:45:32Speaker 02

  Look at that.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:45:35Speaker 02

  I mean, it looks badass. I want to go really bad. I'm going to go there, uh, next month to go, uh,

• 1:45:43Speaker 02

  see something.

• 1:45:43Speaker 05

  It's also not the whole movie, I think.

• 1:45:45Joe Rogan?

  It's not?

• 1:45:46Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:45:47Joe Rogan?

  What, they cut out?

• 1:45:48Speaker 02

  I thought it was.

• 1:45:48Speaker 05

  I don't think they, I don't think they did the entire thing. I guess if the movie's two hours, I think it's an hour and a half or something like that.

• 1:45:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, that's not cool.

• 1:45:55Speaker 05

  They might have cut out some songs or something.

• 1:45:57Joe Rogan?

  You're not supposed to do that, because then it's not gonna sync up.

• 1:45:59Speaker 02

  Right, yeah. I, I wish they would do that though, like if you go there, you, uh, you get headphones and you listen to the Pink Floyd.

• 1:46:05Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:46:06Speaker 02

  That'd be badass.

• 1:46:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, you would bring your phone.

• 1:46:09Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:46:09Joe Rogan?

  And you would sync it up.

• 1:46:10Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:46:11Joe Rogan?

  So that would piss me off if they fucked it up and made it an hour and a half instead of two hours and I just dropped acid.

• 1:46:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:18Joe Rogan?

  And I was ready.

• 1:46:19Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go see Zac Brown band there next month, so I might-

• 1:46:23Joe Rogan?

  What is he doing in there?

• 1:46:24Speaker 02

  He's got a residency there. He's doing the Sphere and he-

• 1:46:27Joe Rogan?

  What is he doing with like the craziness in the sky?

• 1:46:29Speaker 02

  I don't know. He said he was working on, they've been working on a lot of cool stuff, but I didn't ask him like-

• 1:46:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you probably can't tell you anyway.

• 1:46:36Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:46:36Joe Rogan?

  Right, until the thing. So who's been there? They had, um-

• 1:46:41Speaker 02

  Grateful Dead-

• 1:46:42Joe Rogan?

  Phish.

• 1:46:42Speaker 02

  Phish.

• 1:46:43Joe Rogan?

  Right. Um, was it Phish?

• 1:46:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, Phish was there and I think-

• 1:46:47Speaker 05

  You two started it.

• 1:46:47Joe Rogan?

  You two started it, right. You two did the first one.

• 1:46:50Speaker 02

  And the Backstreet Boys or something weird like that was there?

• 1:46:52Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:46:52Speaker 02

  NSYNC? Yeah.

• 1:46:55Speaker 05

  When I was, I was there the weekend it started and I was walking around wondering why everyone was dressed in white. They saw, I don't know how you do this and how you tell people to do this. Everyone showed up in white.

• 1:47:05Joe Rogan?

  For the Backstreet Boys?

• 1:47:06Speaker 05

  For every show. Twenty thousand people.

• 1:47:08Joe Rogan?

  Wow. For the Backstreet Boys?

• 1:47:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, mostly girls, guys too.

• 1:47:11Joe Rogan?

  Wait.

• 1:47:12Speaker 05

  I don't know how you communicate that. What is that all about? I don't know. It was very strange. Walking around Vegas and everyone dressed in white jeans, white shirts.

• 1:47:18Joe Rogan?

  Ew.

• 1:47:19Speaker 05

  What is fucking happening? Oh, the Backstreet Boys are here. And you leave at 11:30 and they're all walking around drunk and still all in one.

• 1:47:25Joe Rogan?

  Bro, the Backstreet Boys were huge when I was 21. If you had told me when I was 38, they would be playing in the most sophisticated dome. The most sophisticated auditorium, whatever you want to call it stadium that anyone's ever performed in, I'd be like, what?

• 1:47:38Speaker 02

  And selling it out.

• 1:47:38Speaker 05

  I've got the list of acts now. Uh, yeah, Zac Brown starts in a couple of weeks.

• 1:47:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:43Speaker 05

  No Doubt's coming in May.

• 1:47:44Speaker 02

  No Doubt?

• 1:47:45Speaker 05

  Yep. Kenny Chesney's also been there.

• 1:47:48Joe Rogan?

  Do you know how much money it must cost to run? Cause the UFC budget was way over because of it, cause they had these big crazy animated things that were going on in the background. It was fucking cool as shit, man. Just walking into the building the first time, I was like, this is nuts.

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 1:48:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was, it was really truly impressive. And I guess the outside is insane too, you know?

• 1:48:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's cool, the visuals they have on that. Like the advertisement too, like, you know, they would just have like Samsung phones on this big-

• 1:48:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah, after a while, it's just gonna be drones in the sky. Just pixel sized drones. Just trillions of them playing a movie out. I mean, that sounds crazy, but so does a screen. So does a, you know? Right. A giant, I was watching some guy reviewing the biggest TV you can buy now. It's like a hundred and eighteen inches. Hundred and thirty, I think. Is it really? Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about, yeah. So, maybe it's, you know, the thing about these things is like, maybe the video I watched is seven months old. Right. Right, and now there's a one that's- Was it Linus Tech Tips? No, someone else. Some guy, and he was like, you can sit it on a cabinet, but it weighs two hundred and forty pounds. So you have to have like a super sturdy cabinet.

• 1:49:00Joe Rogan?

  But most people should just hang them on the wall, but you do not try to hang it on the wall by yourself. It's just way too heavy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it?

• 1:49:08Speaker 05

  It's ten days old. It's a hundred and sixteen inch TV.

• 1:49:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so that's the biggest?

• 1:49:11Speaker 05

  I don't know. I just typed in biggest TV. It's the largest TV in the world. Maybe it's a LED light.

• 1:49:16Joe Rogan?

  I think there's something a little bigger than that. Maybe it is a hundred and sixteen inches.

• 1:49:22Speaker 05

  Unboxing the biggest TV yet.

• 1:49:25Speaker 05

  Unbox therapy. The thing I like that's cool that nobody can get is like what Justin Bieber and Kanye have in their warehouses, which is like a giant Jumbotron screen. And they're watching TV and watching movies.

• 1:49:36Joe Rogan?

  A giant Jumbotron?

• 1:49:37Speaker 05

  It's, yeah, I don't like-

• 1:49:38Joe Rogan?

  So they made a movie theater?

• 1:49:40Speaker 05

  I don't, it's like they're practicing for their arena shows and they're just-

• 1:49:43Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:49:44Speaker 05

  Ah, yeah, hear me, uh-

• 1:49:45Joe Rogan?

  Really? No. So a Jumbotron like you would have at Madison Square Garden? And they have one in their house?

• 1:49:55Joe Rogan?

  Justin Bieber? You've been following Bieber? Wait a minute, Justin Bieber's doing a Twitch stream?

• 1:50:00Speaker 05

  He started doing Twitch recently, yeah.

• 1:50:02Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:50:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's just live streaming his, like, he's making videos and practice and he's got a basketball hoop and golf-

• 1:50:08Joe Rogan?

  How many people are watching while he's doing this?

• 1:50:10Speaker 05

  I don't know, he also doesn't really communicate with the fans or anything, they just kinda have it on. That thing back here is a giant screen. I don't wish you could see it on.

• 1:50:17Joe Rogan?

  That's so weird. But like, how many people are watching this while it's streaming?

• 1:50:22Speaker 05

  Well, this video has two hundred and fifty thousand views from thirteen days ago.

• 1:50:25Joe Rogan?

  Right, but this is a YouTube video, this is an actual stream.

• 1:50:27Speaker 05

  This is a reposting of it.

• 1:50:29Joe Rogan?

  Right. Is it on his channel? No.

• 1:50:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:50:32Joe Rogan?

  The bug is his channel?

• 1:50:34Speaker 05

  No, this isn't his channel. I don't watch, it won't show the video.

• 1:50:36Joe Rogan?

  So the two hundred and forty-two thousand are on someone else's channel? So they've taken his stream and reposted it?

• 1:50:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, I guess. He's just making his video, or making songs.

• 1:50:46Speaker 02

  How do you know about this? Are you a believer?

• 1:50:53Speaker 05

  He's got good songs. He's got good songs. He's a golfer.

• 1:50:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's a golfer. Oh, he's a golfer. It's that cult, the cult of the ball. Cult of the little white ball.

• 1:51:03Speaker 05

  LeBron got the bug, Kevin Hart got the bug?

• 1:51:05Joe Rogan?

  I saw Kevin Hart got the bug. You motherfuckers, everyone's got that goddamn golfing bug.

• 1:51:10Speaker 02

  Kevin Hart?

• 1:51:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I bet Red Band never gets that bug.

• 1:51:13Speaker 02

  No, I ain't gonna fuck that shit.

• 1:51:15Joe Rogan?

  It's never gonna happen. They'll never get you with that.

• 1:51:18Speaker 02

  I don't want that.

• 1:51:18Joe Rogan?

  No, they'll never get you.

• 1:51:20Speaker 02

  It sounds horrible.

• 1:51:20Joe Rogan?

  They'll never get you with some outdoor activity. Fuck off. Fuck off.

• 1:51:24Speaker 02

  Whatever, it wouldn't be that.

• 1:51:25Joe Rogan?

  Fuck off, you're outdoor.

• 1:51:27Speaker 02

  Archery? You wanna do archery? I used to do archery in, uh, middle school.

• 1:51:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, when we open up, what's that?

• 1:51:33Speaker 05

  Kanye watching a basketball game on his screen.

• 1:51:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, how, what is, can I get a perspective?

• 1:51:37Speaker 05

  That's Kanye down there.

• 1:51:38Joe Rogan?

  What? No way! No way, for real? That's how he watches TV?

• 1:51:44Speaker 02

  I don't, I mean...

• 1:51:44Joe Rogan?

  It's a hundred foot screen?

• 1:51:46Speaker 02

  That'd be cool.

• 1:51:47Speaker 05

  That's what I was saying, like, that's badass.

• 1:51:48Joe Rogan?

  That's all before, that's all before the anti-Jew stuff, when they killed his bank account.

• 1:51:53Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that like the panel things, like where they put those panels in?

• 1:51:57Joe Rogan?

  Bro, go back to that, that's insane.

• 1:51:59Speaker 02

  Joe, get that for the studio so we can go watch basketball.

• 1:52:04Joe Rogan?

  You know we're doing another studio at Circuit of America?

• 1:52:07Speaker 02

  Circuit of America, that is so awesome, dude, that, uh, that amusement park there looks so fucking cool, dude.

• 1:52:12Joe Rogan?

  It's sick, it's sick, they, they have great restaurants are opening up there, they have a fitness center there, it's dope, it's pretty dope. And, uh, the track is incredible.

• 1:52:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, but is it gonna be like, like, traffic nightmare around there? Because that area is already kind of a traffic nightmare around there.

• 1:52:29Joe Rogan?

  You know, it's not the...

• 1:52:29Speaker 02

  Helicopter in.

• 1:52:30Joe Rogan?

  It's not the best place to drive to sometimes, like, I went to see Garth Brooks there recently, it was nuts, so many people there. I saw Eminem there, that was nuts.

• 1:52:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, you saw Eminem there?

• 1:52:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:52:40Speaker 02

  Oh, damn, I didn't even know he was there.

• 1:52:42Joe Rogan?

  It was great, it was great, he looks good. Um, and he put on a very energetic show, you know, he's, he's still can flow fast, you know, it was really good. It was a great show. And, uh, who else did we see there? Oh, Post Malone was there. I saw Post Malone there a couple of times. I saw him when he did the, I think a couple of times. I saw him when he did the, um, the other time I saw him was in Dallas. But he did the, uh, country music, uh, tour. So he was doing like mostly like country, a lot of acoustic songs, a lot of acoustic guitars. Great.

• 1:53:11Speaker 02

  Posty. Here's a fun story about Posty. Uh, when I met him, he met my, my fiancee Janice, who's Asian. And he exchanged phone numbers with her and then I find out later how he's got like the biggest Asian fetish ever. And I'm like, and so Janice and him text, have text. I'm like, oh no. She calls him Posty as a joke just to piss me off. Like, oh, Posty, what's going on?

• 1:53:37Joe Rogan?

  Can't he just be a friend?

• 1:53:39Speaker 02

  He loves Asian girls more than me. That's hilarious.

• 1:53:42Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. It is a thing. Dudes love Asian girls. It becomes a thing.

• 1:53:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:48Joe Rogan?

  I don't know why, but it seems to stick.

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  Uh, it's probably like Chung Lee from Street Fighter as a kid, you know, seeing her in that little dress.

• 1:53:58Joe Rogan?

  That can't be the only reason. That's ridiculous.

• 1:54:01Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:54:03Joe Rogan?

  It's interesting though, right? It becomes a type.

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:54:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That, oh, I saw the Stones there. That was nuts. That was nuts.

• 1:54:13Speaker 02

  So it was outdoor concert there?

• 1:54:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I mean, they have a huge stage and the Stones was like over a hundred thousand people were there for it.

• 1:54:20Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:54:21Joe Rogan?

  Cause it was also during Circuit of the Americas. Maybe it was bananas, man. Like you can't even believe you're seeing it. So it was, it's so nuts. It's one of those things where you're like, is that really Mick Jagger out there? Like this is, you know what I mean? Like some people attain a level of like legendary status that you can barely believe they're real when you see them in person. That was what it was like.

• 1:54:42Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:54:43Joe Rogan?

  They were great, man. Like put on a great fucking show at a thousand years old.

• 1:54:49Speaker 02

  Have you raced a car there? Or is that possible?

• 1:54:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've driven around. I haven't raced anybody, but I've gone fast. I wanna go fast!

• 1:54:54Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:54:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I took the, uh, well, I've driven a few cars around there. I drove, uh, my car, which is a GT3RS, a 2007 GT3RS. I took that around the track. I took a Ford GT. It's another car I have. I took that around the track. And then recently, I drove, um, they have a new Corvette, the Corvette ZR1.

• 1:55:14Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:55:15Joe Rogan?

  It's a thousand horsepower.

• 1:55:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:18Joe Rogan?

  A thousand horsepower Corvette. It was bananas. By far, the best car I've ever driven.

• 1:55:25Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:55:25Joe Rogan?

  By, by far.

• 1:55:27Speaker 02

  You gonna get one?

• 1:55:28Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:55:29Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:55:29Joe Rogan?

  One thousand, one hundred thousand percent.

• 1:55:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, it looks sexy too. I love it. I...

• 1:55:34Joe Rogan?

  No, dude, it's, it's incredible. It's incredible. I mean, it's just like, it's so engineered, man. Like, when you're driving around the track, well, we were going fast, and the thing was just gripping. Grip, the, the handling is so balanced, cause it's a mid-engine car now. You know, the, from the C8, the eighth version, like, from Tony's on, is all, like, super balanced out now, because the engine is in the middle of the car. It's just, like, so planted.

• 1:56:00Speaker 02

  Is it better than a, I mean, Porsches have mid, mid-engine cars too. Is it better than Porsche handles?

• 1:56:06Joe Rogan?

  Porsche's mid-engine cars are the Caymans.

• 1:56:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:56:09Joe Rogan?

  And the Boxster. Those are the mid-engine cars.

• 1:56:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:12Joe Rogan?

  The other ones are rear-engine cars, which is a little more tricky. Rear-engine cars, it's like, when the ass end kicks out, you gotta keep on the gas, or the car will spin out on you. It's a little different. You know, like, a lot of people don't, they like it, because you can control that. And once you get to control it, it can actually help you run the track. That's why one of the fastest cars in the world around the Nürburgring is the Porsche 911 GT3RS, which is a rear-engine, rear-wheel-drive car. And it's one of the fastest cars around the Nürburgring, cause when you know how to drive it, that weight balance can actually assist you, and they're just so well-engineered. But the Corvette's faster. It is? Yeah, the Corvette, I think. What's it zero to sixty?

• 1:56:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, zero sixty is way faster. It's a faster car. It's a spaceship. Like, it's a nutty car. I don't know if it's faster around the Nürburgring. Matter of fact, I don't think it is. The, I think it's like a hair behind it, which is interesting because it's a lot more horsepower. But that, that's also, a professional race car driver drove the Porsche, and Corvette set its record for the fastest American car ever built around the Nürburgring with a Corvette engineer. Not even a professional race car driver. And so professional race car drivers, like, there's some guys on YouTube, they've looked at the footage, because you can watch the dash cam footage, they said, I could take about ten seconds off this. Wow. Which is nuts.

• 1:57:39Joe Rogan?

  More than a Model S Plaid, though? The new ones? They're really fast, too, but they're not as fast around corners, you know what I mean? Like, the Nürburgring and a lot of these tracks, it's not just about how fast you go, it's about what kind of suspension you have. And the Model S Plaid, in some ways, is limited by the width of the tires and the suspension. It's a great car for driving regular streets, but if you were gonna do a car like that and take it on the track, you would do what I did with mine, the unplugged performance one. Badass. That's different. That could probably go around a track faster than anything. Right. Because it has super wide tires, it's a wider body, because they add carbon fiber fenders,

• 1:58:23Joe Rogan?

  wider tires, and then like insane braking power. Like, that car's, that's a future car. That car's from the future. It's sexy as fuck. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever driven. Yeah. But everything else I have, all the fast, supposedly fast cars, they're all pussy cars compared to that thing. Right. That robot just, whoosh, silent, goes faster than all of them. Faster, handles incredible, and it's really heavy. Those are really heavy cars.

• 1:58:50Speaker 05

  I've never even seen that the Mercedes MG1 is the fastest on the Nürburgring.

• 1:58:54Joe Rogan?

  Wow, that's sexy. That's basically a race car.

• 1:58:57Speaker 05

  Six thirty. So a minute faster than the Tesla Plaid in twenty twenty-three.

• 1:59:01Joe Rogan?

  What is that exhaust on the top? See, that's the thing about a Tesla Plaid. Seven thirty used to be awesome. Like, when my GT3 RS came out, I think it was like seven forty, a professional race car driver took it around the Nürburgring, which is kind of nuts. But now, I think...

• 1:59:18Joe Rogan?

  The Corvette is under six, is under seven. I think it's like 650. What is the Corvette's time? So number one is eight, yeah, okay.

• 1:59:29Speaker 05

  649.

• 1:59:30Joe Rogan?

  649. That's crazy. So that's a full minute almost faster than the GT3 RS that I have. So look at that. So below that, so it is faster than the GT3 RS, which is nuts. Cause the GT3 RS and the GT2 RS have always been like the ones that everybody looks at.

• 1:59:50Speaker 05

  .05.

• 1:59:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, real close, real close. But again, the Corvette is being driven by a guy who's an engineer. The Porsche is being driven by a race car driver. There is a difference. Those engineers are awesome drivers, but that's like, you know, you play basketball in college, you're really good, now you have to play against LeBron. There's a bit, there's a difference.

• 2:00:11Speaker 02

  And it's also pre-production, right?

• 2:00:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And then there's the GT2 RS, the Manthe. So what Manthe is, it's like a performance company. They take a regular GT2, which is a nutty car. It's a turbocharged GT3 RS essentially. And it's got more than 700 horsepower. It's an insane car. So that's a little faster, but the regular GT2 RS is not as fast. Around the, so that's an MR. That's another modified vehicle. It's another company. That's a GT3 RS. But then GT2 RS is what I'm asking about. So there's the GTD. That's the Ford Mustang. That's the new crazy Mustang that they just came out with. So these are nutty numbers, man. Like off the charts insane numbers.

• 2:00:57Joe Rogan?

  And they're gonna get faster and faster. Like

• 2:01:01Joe Rogan?

  when Elon's here, he was trying to tell me, without telling me, how insane his, that little Sportster car, whatever it's called, the Roadster.

• 2:01:10Speaker 02

  Oh, the Bigfoot.

• 2:01:11Joe Rogan?

  Whatever that thing is gonna be. Roadster.

• 2:01:12Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:01:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay.

• 2:01:17Joe Rogan?

  But he said they're gonna have a product demonstration sometime in the beginning of the year. He said January, February.

• 2:01:23Speaker 02

  They had that 13 years ago too.

• 2:01:28Speaker 02

  I mean, I wish he would bring that out. God, that's like the

• 2:01:32Joe Rogan?

  How many people put a deposit down on that?

• 2:01:34Speaker 02

  A lot, and a lot of people have canceled their deposits.

• 2:01:37Joe Rogan?

  Including Sam Altman.

• 2:01:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, MK did recently also.

• 2:01:43Speaker 02

  I mean, I don't understand what the problem is. Like, why not just release one? I mean...

• 2:01:47Joe Rogan?

  Because you can't.

• 2:01:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:49Joe Rogan?

  Because you're busy.

• 2:01:50Speaker 02

  Well, but he's releasing

• 2:01:52Joe Rogan?

  He's got rockets to make.

• 2:01:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:54Joe Rogan?

  He doesn't have the time.

• 2:01:55Speaker 02

  I like my Hummer. That's my favorite car.

• 2:01:57Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 2:01:58Speaker 05

  From time he's been here, they've already pushed it back to April 1st now.

• 2:02:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:02:03Speaker 05

  Article I just found from

• 2:02:04Joe Rogan?

  For the demonstration?

• 2:02:04Speaker 05

  Three days ago.

• 2:02:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so, okay, so 2027.

• 2:02:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're gonna get this before GTA?

• 2:02:10Joe Rogan?

  Tesla delays reveal of production roster.

• 2:02:13Speaker 02

  April Fool's Day.

• 2:02:14Joe Rogan?

  To April Fool's Day.

• 2:02:15Speaker 02

  It's not, he's fucking with everybody.

• 2:02:17Joe Rogan?

  That's funny. Come on, that's funny.

• 2:02:19Speaker 02

  No, it's definitely funny.

• 2:02:20Joe Rogan?

  That's actually funny.

• 2:02:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:23Joe Rogan?

  Look at that. Let me see the image again. Gives him some deniability, bro. If that thing does come out, though, that's gonna be so much fun. That's 0 to 60 in some stupid number. Because the Tesla Plaid, my car, does it in 1.9.

• 2:02:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:37Joe Rogan?

  1.9.

• 2:02:38Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 2:02:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't know what that's gonna do it in, but it's probably gonna be like 1.4 or something insane, which is 1 second. Basically a second.

• 2:02:49Speaker 02

  My Hummer does in 2.8, and that's scary as fuck, dude. And the whole front goes up like a boat, and you're just looking at the sky.

• 2:02:55Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:02:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:57Joe Rogan?

  Are they having a hard time selling those?

• 2:02:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, 100%.

• 2:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Why? They're cool.

• 2:03:01Speaker 02

  They're really cool. I think it's just, I don't know, man, it's just, it's expensive. It's a very expensive car, and, you know...

• 2:03:08Joe Rogan?

  You're always ranting about it, though. You love it.

• 2:03:10Speaker 02

  It's my favorite car, and it's just ridiculous that it's so much fun to drive. It's the funnest car I've ever drove. And little things like that, where you go fast and the whole thing goes up like a boat, it's so hilarious. They just released Super Crab Walk also, just like an update where it's even more ridiculous, like where you can just drive sideways, kind of.

• 2:03:29Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, Super Crab Walk.

• 2:03:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's fun, dude. You should, you should borrow my car sometime to go out. Like, it's fucking hilarious. It's fucking awesome.

• 2:03:39Joe Rogan?

  Have you been in a Cybertruck yet?

• 2:03:41Speaker 02

  Uh, I have, but I haven't driven one and, you know, that's something I canceled my reservation for. That's why I got the Hummer, but uh, I got, I'm still, I got that tick, like I kinda want it still, but I don't know.

• 2:03:51Joe Rogan?

  If you did it, you should put cat stickers all over it.

• 2:03:54Speaker 02

  Cat stickers?

• 2:03:55Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? Like put your Death Squad cat.

• 2:03:57Speaker 02

  Like wrap it and stuff? I would wrap it.

• 2:04:00Joe Rogan?

  People would definitely fuck with it.

• 2:04:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't do that.

• 2:04:02Joe Rogan?

  Dudes would piss all over your car or something.

• 2:04:03Speaker 02

  Right. Like I wanted, wanted to get red band as my license plate and it was like available. I was like, I can't do that.

• 2:04:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:11Speaker 02

  But that'd be cool.

• 2:04:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, you're asking to get stalked.

• 2:04:15Speaker 02

  Like, I roast, you know, be like that.

• 2:04:21Joe Rogan?

  That was back when Tony wanted attention.

• 2:04:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:23Joe Rogan?

  Now he's hiding.

• 2:04:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:24Joe Rogan?

  Hey, I'm hiding, hiding. Um, now he's got tinted windows. When you, like, maybe you can put red band in like a code.

• 2:04:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:34Speaker 02

  Now I do it.

• 2:04:35Joe Rogan?

  That'll be actually be more fun.

• 2:04:36Speaker 02

  I almost said what my license plate is. I mean, I kinda did.

• 2:04:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, did you?

• 2:04:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:42Joe Rogan?

  That's a douche move, right? Having a like, I've never, I'd had one, December, uh,

• 2:04:48Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:04:49Joe Rogan?

  12, 2020, 2012. That was the end of the Mayan calendar.

• 2:04:53Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:04:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:55Speaker 02

  That's right, you did have one.

• 2:04:55Joe Rogan?

  What if that really did, if like, we're gonna look back and that's when something happened? And we just didn't realize something had happened?

• 2:05:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:02Joe Rogan?

  Like there's some technological breakthrough, they're gonna point back to December 21st, 2012?

• 2:05:07Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:05:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:10Joe Rogan?

  They're gonna say, oh, that's when everything went weird?

• 2:05:13Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 2:05:14Joe Rogan?

  Probably, right?

• 2:05:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, that and COVID. We got two updates during those two times.

• 2:05:18Joe Rogan?

  COVID was the big one.

• 2:05:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:20Joe Rogan?

  I had someone trying to tell me it was the most painful conversation, that every time your nose got swabbed during COVID, they put, uh, micro particles in your body and they can turn them on or off and make you tired or make you like, what? Why am I having this conversation?

• 2:05:37Speaker 02

  Did you hang up with Eddie Bravo?

• 2:05:39Joe Rogan?

  Have you researched this? Have you researched this? Like, what are you talking about? I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. Like, everybody's got it and 90% of the people on the planet have these things in their body and they can just turn them on and turn them off. Okay, what? Where is this technology coming from? Where do they have, how, you know how many steps have to be taken before they inject stuff into people? They have to be sure that it works.

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. Did you see Kim Kardashian doesn't believe we went to the moon? Have you been watching?

• 2:06:05Joe Rogan?

  Been watching the show. Dropping, we dropping knowledge on Kim. Old Kim's catching it.

• 2:06:11Speaker 02

  It's funny watching her be into that though.

• 2:06:14Joe Rogan?

  Catching it, old Kim's getting red pilled. Yeah.

• 2:06:18Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 2:06:19Joe Rogan?

  Bro, when you watch Richard Nixon having a conversation with the guys, "Congratulations, boys, you're on the moon." There's, he's got a phone, he's got a landline, he's calling the guys on the moon. Like, shut the fuck up, just shut your fucking hole. There is no way that phone is connected to anybody other than another phone.

• 2:06:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. I didn't even know about the phone thing, that's ridiculous.

• 2:06:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's one of the things that Gus Grisham complained about. He hung a lemon, uh, he put a lemon on a, a coat hanger and hung it on the lunar module. Because they couldn't communicate with the, the people that were in the command center. They were all trying to communicate and he was pissed off, it wasn't working, so he put a lemon and he hung it on the door and that's, that's the, the dark, dark conspiracy, because he burned to death inside that thing.

• 2:07:12Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:07:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and his family thinks that they murdered him because he wasn't willing to go along with the moon hoax. He was supposed to be the original pilot.

• 2:07:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:21Speaker 02

  Did you follow that conspiracy of there are all the Challenger astronauts are still alive or you've been following?

• 2:07:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I've seen that, I've seen that.

• 2:07:27Speaker 02

  I love that one.

• 2:07:28Joe Rogan?

  You want to know what's not a conspiracy that Elon told us? If they made the Challenger out of steel instead of aluminum, it wouldn't have burnt up like that.

• 2:07:36Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:07:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what he said, he said it was about the tiles.

• 2:07:40Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:07:41Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that nuts?

• 2:07:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, because that's how it happened, the tiles.

• 2:07:43Joe Rogan?

  The tiles break off, yeah. But aluminum just heats up too fast and, and disintegrates, it falls apart, yeah. That's why he uses steel, like those, those things are all, all of those spaceships that he's making.

• 2:07:56Speaker 02

  Does he cast them like he does his cars, I wonder, like, you know what I mean?

• 2:08:00Joe Rogan?

  Um, I can't say how they do it, I don't think, I don't think we could say, right?

• 2:08:04Speaker 02

  Ah, don't tell me, I don't care.

• 2:08:05Joe Rogan?

  I don't think we should say. But it's steel. I'll tell you, it's steel.

• 2:08:08Speaker 02

  Steel.

• 2:08:09Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy looking, man. When you see them in person, you're like.

• 2:08:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a trip.

• 2:08:16Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it's literally like you're inside of the Death Star. And you're looking at some spaceship that they're constructing. Or you're, you know, with the Resistance or whoever Luke Skywalker was with. It's weird, man. It's weird, because these are spaceships. They're gonna go into space.

• 2:08:36Joe Rogan?

  And eventually, supposedly, go to Mars.

• 2:08:39Speaker 02

  I'm good.

• 2:08:41Speaker 02

  You're not gonna go.

• 2:08:42Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:08:42Speaker 02

  Fuck that.

• 2:08:43Joe Rogan?

  But if you had a choice between Earth is gonna be hit by the biggest asteroid that's ever impacted Earth in five years. It's, there was no way we're gonna avoid it.

• 2:08:51Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:08:51Joe Rogan?

  And we've figured out a way to grow food on Mars. Who's in?

• 2:08:54Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:08:55Joe Rogan?

  I might go to Mars.

• 2:08:56Speaker 02

  Then I'll go. But I wanna be, like, passed out like my colonoscopy where I just wake up and I'm like, oh, I'm here.

• 2:09:01Joe Rogan?

  Could you imagine watching from Mars when Earth gets hit with an asteroid? You watch it in real time?

• 2:09:07Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:09:08Joe Rogan?

  You see this big flash in the sky. And like, a quarter of Earth looks like it's on fire.

• 2:09:15Speaker 02

  God.

• 2:09:16Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 2:09:17Speaker 02

  That'd be intense.

• 2:09:18Joe Rogan?

  Bro. Imagine being on the surface of Mars, watching Earth get destroyed. Going, oh, boy, we gotta make the most of this. If I could barely see it, wouldn't you? You have telescopes and shit. Well, with your eyes, you mean? Yeah, with your eyes, you could barely see it, for sure.

• 2:09:33Speaker 02

  And wouldn't it be like years later, you would see it?

• 2:09:36Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:09:39Joe Rogan?

  It'll be a few seconds later.

• 2:09:40Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:09:41Joe Rogan?

  But if, uh, yeah, if you were using a telescope, you definitely will see it. Um, but with the naked eye, it'd be a little tiny dot. Because it's only, Mars is only like, what, three quarters the size of Earth?

• 2:09:55Joe Rogan?

  How big is Mars in relationship to the size of Earth?

• 2:10:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so you could barely, and you could barely see Mars, right? So Earth would only be like a slight bit bigger.

• 2:10:05Speaker 02

  And then going back to Earth after to see it would be crazy.

• 2:10:10Joe Rogan?

  Just watch cannibals, just all people like looking up at you over rib cages, wearing human skin.

• 2:10:15Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:10:16Joe Rogan?

  That's probably what people are like after the asteroid's impacted. You know, the, the people that have survived like these big, huge extinction events? Okay. Oh, it's a lot smaller than Earth. It's half the size, basically. Almost...

• 2:10:31Joe Rogan?

  Little bit more than half the size.

• 2:10:33Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:10:35Joe Rogan?

  So we could barely see that, so you could probably barely, barely see Earth too.

• 2:10:42Joe Rogan?

  You know, Terrence Howard has the craziest idea about planets.

• 2:10:47Joe Rogan?

  He, and again, I don't know if he's right, but it's fun. He thinks that planets are made out of chunks of stuff that gets ejected from the sun. And eventually, gravity, coal, and as it moves further and further away from the sun, it gets to the point where it can support life. And he said, you probably experienced that all over the cosmos. It's probably like peopling, like things get to a stage where it could support life. And then life exists for long enough where intelligent life develops. And that happens all over the cosmos. That's his thought. And then maybe these people that we see when you meet aliens, maybe that's future versions of people.

• 2:11:30Joe Rogan?

  And that peopling is a natural thing, just like, you know. Grow crops. You know, oh, the crops are fruiting. We're going, we're going to get apples. We're going to go pick apples today. Cause the, the tree lived long enough, the seeds planted long enough. Now grows fruit. Now you can go, go eat your apples.

• 2:11:51Joe Rogan?

  Imagine, we're just a farm, just a people farm.

• 2:11:55Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense. Everyone say, no, that doesn't make any sense. Listen, nothing about this world makes sense. Fucking literally nothing. Nothing about life makes sense. It's, it's all very strange. And you don't think it's possible that this is a stage on the way to becoming some new kind of life form? And that has happened already somewhere else? And they come to visit to make sure we're okay?

• 2:12:21Joe Rogan?

  Of course that's possible.

• 2:12:22Speaker 02

  I'm leaning more towards simulation theory more and more the older I get.

• 2:12:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 2:12:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, hundred percent, hundred, hundreds percent.

• 2:12:28Joe Rogan?

  Alright, why? What's your argument for why the simulation theory is real?

• 2:12:33Speaker 02

  Because you can kind of see right now, the idea, like, look at, look at AI chatbots, or look at, look AI, talking to AI, you could already kind of see artificial intelligence now, like, baby version of it.

• 2:12:48Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:12:48Speaker 02

  Imagine a hundred years from now, imagine thousands of years ago, and we are the AI, you know, I just, I just see that, that just seems like it makes sense, that we're, aliens created us as AI, you know, in this fake world, and they're just...

• 2:13:07Joe Rogan?

  So this is just a program running?

• 2:13:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:11Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:13:14Speaker 02

  It's a fun one to think about.

• 2:13:15Joe Rogan?

  Let's talk about that stupid quantum computer. Okay, what is that?

• 2:13:18Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:13:18Joe Rogan?

  So if that thing can do that, if it could run a calculation that would take every computer on Earth 2.6 billion years to solve, and it could do it in a few minutes, what is, what kind of rendering can that thing do? You know, like, what kind of experience can that thing provide to my, my simple monkey neurons? What, you know, I wear a headset, and it cre, like, you were telling me about those weird online games, where they're never-ending, where like, you, you explore space, and there's like, universes, and, but there's no end to the game.

• 2:13:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:13:53Joe Rogan?

  You just go places and see things, and you can go to a new place and see a new thing, and it's like, constantly rendering a new version of it, like, well, what's that?

• 2:14:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:02Joe Rogan?

  Right? What is that? And now you add a bunch of variables, like, life forms, this, and natural disasters, and ideological capture, and all this different shit, and trannies in the women's room, all that stuff, like, add that to it, and all the chaos of war, and of fucking, you know, Samsung can't get their shit together, like, all, put it all together, like, to keep you confused and chaotic, and like, you're guessing constantly, everything's madness. Like, this is, that's how I would make a simulation, I would make a simulation that's fucking completely bananas. Some old guy gets shot in the ear, jumps up and goes, "Fight, fight, fight." Crazy stuff.

• 2:14:37Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:14:38Joe Rogan?

  The, the nuttier, the better. The weirder, the better. I want a communist running New York City, run it, run that, run that program, let's go.

• 2:14:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:46Joe Rogan?

  And all these rich kids are gonna be supporting him. Yay! So chalazam! Run that program, the, all of it.

• 2:14:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Run it.

• 2:14:59Speaker 02

  And we get upgraded when we sleep at night.

• 2:15:03Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 2:15:05Joe Rogan?

  It's just one of those things, it's like, we realize that we're building towards an event. Like, human civilization clearly seems to be building towards an event. There's like the military stuff, the Ukraine, Russia stuff, the Gaza, Palestine, Israel stuff. But it's also the technology war. It's like building towards an event and how that event plays out, I don't know. And I think everyone's got a little bit of anxiety about that. You know?

• 2:15:35Joe Rogan?

  But at least they're, at least they're letting that climate change, we're gonna die shit go. Bill Gates was like the first, he sounded the first alarm, actually, we're gonna be fine. Did you see he said that recently?

• 2:15:46Speaker 02

  Bill Gates said that?

• 2:15:47Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Yes, Bill Gates, the Pied Piper of we're all gonna die. The guy, literally the Paul Revere of we're gonna die. Is now, we're gonna be okay. We're gonna be fine. So they're letting that go. So if they're letting that go, okay, good.

• 2:16:04Joe Rogan?

  At least you can relax in that front. So what do we have to be anxious about now? What, what, what dilemmas is the simulation providing us? That are gonna keep us distracted as we build towards an event?

• 2:16:19Joe Rogan?

  I think the real event involves AI. I think that's the real event. I think all this other stuff, the climate change stuff and the-

• 2:16:24Speaker 02

  And it would make, isn't it kinda weird too that AI literally came to us overnight? It wasn't like we saw baby versions of AI. It just seemed like, oh, one day we have, all have AI, like we have artif, you know, all this. It came out of nowhere.

• 2:16:39Joe Rogan?

  I mean, when was ChatGPT, or excuse me, when was OpenAI funded? When was, when was it founded? What was the-

• 2:16:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 2:16:46Joe Rogan?

  Let's guess.

• 2:16:47Speaker 02

  Uh, 2017.

• 2:16:50Joe Rogan?

  I was gonna say the same thing.

• 2:16:51Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 2:16:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was gonna say so. I was gonna say 16, I was like, nah, 17.

• 2:16:55Speaker 02

  Yep, seven.

• 2:16:56Joe Rogan?

  But it might be 15, right?

• 2:16:59Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:16:59Joe Rogan?

  Was it? 15?

• 2:17:01Speaker 02

  Ah.

• 2:17:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so 10 years ago, these motherfuckers knew. That eventually we're going to figure that thing out. And and then also, they were probably the first people that were collecting data, right? And realizing that data is a commodity. Well, it's also a commodity in that this data allows people to use their artificial intelligence and create things, um, which is essentially on the back of artists, right? Like, digital artists and like, these, a lot of these people that, um, make stuff with their hands, that like, have a distinctive art style. Like, you can tell it, make me a painting of a dog and a young boy in the style of Picasso

• 2:17:48Joe Rogan?

  during a very particular time period of his life, and it'll, like that. But it's doing it off of Picasso's work.

• 2:17:54Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:17:54Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 2:17:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, so it's trained on.

• 2:17:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like, if you say, make me a Frank Frazetta of Conan the Barbarian that's never been seen.

• 2:18:02Speaker 02

  Do you do that?

• 2:18:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's on.

• 2:18:04Speaker 02

  What should we do that?

• 2:18:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, let's, um, let's put that into perplexity.

• 2:18:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, and have it.

• 2:18:09Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't do images? All right. That's an issue.

• 2:18:13Speaker 02

  Make Credit Thorne Ward have big boobs then.

• 2:18:16Joe Rogan?

  Um, all right. When you, when you use, uh, AI, like, what, what, are you using programs that do deep fakes? Are you using programs that do video gener- are you using Sora?

• 2:18:28Speaker 02

  I use, I use Sora, uh, all the time.

• 2:18:31Joe Rogan?

  Is that the best one for videos, right?

• 2:18:33Speaker 02

  Uh, they all, it kinda sucks, sometimes Sora's the best, other times Grox great. I mean, they, every, every day, I'm going, I'm just trying to go back and forth between them too. But I would say Sora's probably the best one right now. But then, next week, some other one will just come out, you know, and be better. So, I'm always jumping around.

• 2:18:52Joe Rogan?

  Brett Weinstein was explaining something really interesting about, like, Nvidia and a lot of these, um, companies that make video cards. That their design of these video cards is uniquely good for AI generation. And that they're, that's why they're so huge now. Like, these companies are bigger than any other company.

• 2:19:11Speaker 05

  I asked it to do it. There you go.

• 2:19:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:19:13Speaker 02

  Wow, that looks good.

• 2:19:15Speaker 05

  I don't know if that, is that?

• 2:19:16Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 2:19:16Speaker 02

  No, that's from like, that's Cobra Commander's thing or something like that.

• 2:19:20Joe Rogan?

  That's incredible.

• 2:19:20Speaker 02

  That looks great.

• 2:19:21Speaker 05

  I stand corrected.

• 2:19:23Joe Rogan?

  So, tell it. Tell perplexity to make him look older and more scarred. And vulnerable. Well, no, he was always mean. More scarred. Okay, I think they're doing it based on Arnold Schwarzenegger. Cause the hair was lighter and Conan's hair was like jet black in the books. Ooh, look at, look how it generates. I like that. This is wild. Cool. Make him look older and more scarred. Oh, that's so cool. Get a little, oh my god. Oh my god, they fucking nailed it. That is perfect. Holy shit dude, that's incredible.

• 2:20:06Speaker 05

  Did he even fake sign?

• 2:20:07Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 2:20:08Speaker 05

  Fake signature.

• 2:20:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh wow, that's cool. What is the signature?

• 2:20:13Speaker 05

  You can't, it's in the logical, it doesn't like it's anything.

• 2:20:16Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. He's wearing U boots. That's the kind of boots they wore back then. Damn, that's pretty fucking good. The dragon has three arms. Uh, now make him in a scene where he's fighting armed skeletons.

• 2:20:45Joe Rogan?

  So we're gonna have the old dude with the scars fighting skeletons. We're 12. And now, now animate it, you know, that's cool. Now, give him a big ol' hog.

• 2:20:59Joe Rogan?

  Big ol' floppy. Oh, whoa, what happened? His hair, he's getting older. That's Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's weird. That's not Conan. Okay, uh, give him, good, but give him long, black hair. And pouty lips. Put pouty lips just to see how. Give him hair to jet black and longer.

• 2:21:29Joe Rogan?

  Alright, here we go.

• 2:21:30Speaker 02

  Put him in pigtails.

• 2:21:32Joe Rogan?

  It's wild how this thing can just do this.

• 2:21:33Speaker 02

  I love this shit. This is all, I mean, I just do this for hours.

• 2:21:36Joe Rogan?

  And then all it takes is a prompt, and you can do it with your voice. You don't even have to do it by typing it in, which is really nuts.

• 2:21:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:21:46Speaker 02

  Have you?

• 2:21:48Joe Rogan?

  That's better.

• 2:21:49Speaker 02

  That's better.

• 2:21:49Joe Rogan?

  Still a little longer with the hair. The hair needs to be a little longer, but that's okay.

• 2:21:53Speaker 02

  And that looks like he dyed it black, like, just fermented, right?

• 2:21:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they took away the weapons from the skeletons. They don't look skeletons having that battle axe. Look.

• 2:22:03Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:22:03Joe Rogan?

  They edited that out.

• 2:22:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, that sucks.

• 2:22:06Joe Rogan?

  Okay, make the...

• 2:22:09Joe Rogan?

  Make the skeletons heavily armed with armor

• 2:22:18Joe Rogan?

  and helmets, swords and shields.

• 2:22:24Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:22:25Joe Rogan?

  With armor and helmets,

• 2:22:29Joe Rogan?

  swords and shields.

• 2:22:34Joe Rogan?

  Why did I say swords?

• 2:22:35Speaker 02

  Swords.

• 2:22:36Joe Rogan?

  I said it like it's spelled.

• 2:22:38Speaker 02

  That's your Boston in you.

• 2:22:40Joe Rogan?

  Swords. He's got a sword. Run, Paulie. He's gonna get ya. He's got his sword.

• 2:22:51Speaker 02

  Oh, I like how it does it.

• 2:22:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:22:54Speaker 02

  Kind of.

• 2:22:55Joe Rogan?

  Pretty dope.

• 2:22:55Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:22:56Joe Rogan?

  That's pretty fucking dope. Although, where's the blood on the sword coming from if they're all skeletons?

• 2:23:00Speaker 02

  True.

• 2:23:01Joe Rogan?

  Issue. That's an issue. That's pretty fucking good, though, dude. It's a little different than Frizzetta's style. Okay, now, say, make it more like Frizzetta's paintings. Cause it's a little too detailed.

• 2:23:17Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:23:18Joe Rogan?

  Make it more like Frizzetta's...

• 2:23:23Speaker 02

  Skeletons are bullshit, though.

• 2:23:24Joe Rogan?

  Paintings.

• 2:23:25Speaker 02

  They would just, all their bones would fall on the ground. There's no muscles.

• 2:23:28Joe Rogan?

  There's nothing to stop the blade. But they're all coming at ya. There's so many of them. They're coming at ya from everywhere. You know? You have to... They're scary.

• 2:23:37Speaker 02

  Ridiculous.

• 2:23:38Joe Rogan?

  There's a zombie inside the skeleton, a zombie brain. Yeah, they have no muscle. You can kick their ass. Fuck off, bitch.

• 2:23:44Speaker 02

  Be a pile. I don't like his pose.

• 2:23:47Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, still the same.

• 2:23:49Speaker 02

  And what's that bomb on the ground? Like a World War II bomb?

• 2:23:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what is that? What's that?

• 2:23:53Speaker 02

  It's like a vibrator. That's a Hitachi.

• 2:23:55Joe Rogan?

  What is that big robot dick on the ground? Big old red rocket.

• 2:23:59Speaker 02

  That's weird.

• 2:23:59Joe Rogan?

  I kinda like how they've got the skeletons have shields now.

• 2:24:02Speaker 02

  Now that's cool.

• 2:24:04Joe Rogan?

  That looks pretty dope.

• 2:24:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:08Joe Rogan?

  No one still to this day, I would love to talk Quentin Tarantino into doing it for his last film. No one to this day has done a really good Conan movie like the books.

• 2:24:18Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 2:24:19Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever read the books?

• 2:24:20Speaker 02

  Uh, long time ago. I used to be really into that and the Death Dealer, or was it the Death Dealer? Is that what his name was?

• 2:24:26Joe Rogan?

  Death Dealer?

• 2:24:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:27Joe Rogan?

  Who?

• 2:24:28Speaker 02

  Oh, man. The guy with the big horns, uh, the black, Death Dealer, right?

• 2:24:34Joe Rogan?

  Is that what it's called?

• 2:24:35Speaker 02

  I used to be in that too.

• 2:24:37Joe Rogan?

  Who's got the horns?

• 2:24:40Speaker 02

  I think it's called The Death Dealer. Is it called The Death Dealer? Yeah, that guy.

• 2:24:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:24:44Speaker 02

  Oh, that, yeah, that's, uh, Fourth Picture, right there. Uh, where he's on the, uh, next to it.

• 2:24:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:24:50Speaker 02

  To the right.

• 2:24:50Joe Rogan?

  So it's basically a ripoff?

• 2:24:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was really into those books.

• 2:24:54Speaker 05

  Frank Frazetta, unless someone made that up.

• 2:24:55Speaker 02

  No, it is. It's Frank Frazetta also.

• 2:24:59Joe Rogan?

  Go to that.

• 2:24:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's him.

• 2:25:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:01Speaker 02

  Dude, that was my, he was my favorite.

• 2:25:02Joe Rogan?

  That's one of Frazetta's best paintings.

• 2:25:03Speaker 02

  Really? Yeah, that's The Death Dealer. I used to read those books.

• 2:25:06Joe Rogan?

  I didn't know there were books.

• 2:25:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was obsessed with that, The Death Dealer.

• 2:25:10Joe Rogan?

  What is the book about?

• 2:25:11Speaker 02

  I don't even remember anymore, man.

• 2:25:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:25:14Speaker 02

  It was, it was badass though. I used to...

• 2:25:17Joe Rogan?

  The Death Dealer.

• 2:25:18Speaker 02

  Actually.

• 2:25:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Frank Frazetta's Volume Three, The Death Dealer.

• 2:25:21Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was my favorite one. That was my favorite book right there.

• 2:25:25Joe Rogan?

  Book two.

• 2:25:26Speaker 02

  Second one, yep.

• 2:25:27Joe Rogan?

  So what, does he just go around fucking killing people?

• 2:25:29Speaker 02

  He was a badass. He was pretty, I think he was dead too, if I remember. I don't even remember, like he was...

• 2:25:33Joe Rogan?

  See if you can go and find out what it looks like inside of it.

• 2:25:37Speaker 05

  Inside of what?

• 2:25:37Joe Rogan?

  Inside of that book. Like, is it a, um, it's a graphic novel, right?

• 2:25:42Speaker 02

  No, no, it's a book.

• 2:25:43Joe Rogan?

  It's a book book.

• 2:25:44Speaker 02

  Book book.

• 2:25:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:25:45Speaker 02

  And then I've read, I got, I've read that before I read Conan, and that's how I got into Conan, cause I was like, wait, who's Conan?

• 2:25:50Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:25:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:51Joe Rogan?

  So who wrote that?

• 2:25:53Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't.

• 2:25:54Speaker 05

  Said on one of them.

• 2:25:55Joe Rogan?

  It's not Robert E. Howard, right?

• 2:25:56Speaker 05

  James Silk?

• 2:25:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. So he based it on a Frizzetta painting?

• 2:26:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:26:03Joe Rogan?

  And made, okay, okay.

• 2:26:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:26:05Joe Rogan?

  So Frizzetta, though, was, the Conan books were in the 30s.

• 2:26:09Speaker 02

  Were they?

• 2:26:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:26:10Speaker 02

  Oh, I didn't know it was that old.

• 2:26:12Joe Rogan?

  It's really old.

• 2:26:12Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:26:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Robert E. Howard. He lived with his mom, he was super depressed, and wound up killing himself. And he wrote about like the most badass motherfucker that he wished he was. Living in a time where there's sorcerers and dragons and...

• 2:26:27Speaker 02

  You, have you been to Conan's Pizza here in Austin?

• 2:26:30Joe Rogan?

  Is it related?

• 2:26:31Speaker 02

  It's all Conan, uh, Conan shit. You walk in, it's all Conan shit.

• 2:26:34Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:26:34Speaker 02

  You would love it, dude.

• 2:26:35Joe Rogan?

  How's the pizza?

• 2:26:36Speaker 02

  I haven't had it, I haven't been there yet, but I, it looks badass. I saw it on TikTok and it's just like a Conan's fans', uh, dream.

• 2:26:44Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious. Super nerd.

• 2:26:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's just everywhere.

• 2:26:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's all Frizzetta stuff on the wall?

• 2:26:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, everywhere.

• 2:26:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow. What a great idea.

• 2:26:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:26:53Joe Rogan?

  It's a good way to keep chicks out.

• 2:26:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, look at the, look at the table, it's all...

• 2:26:56Joe Rogan?

  We're not going to the, yeah, hard seats and Conan paintings. That's how you keep chicks out. We are not going to see those fucking gay paintings.

• 2:27:05Speaker 02

  I wanna go there though.

• 2:27:06Joe Rogan?

  Why do you like those fucking gay paintings?

• 2:27:09Speaker 02

  They're the most coolest paintings in the world.

• 2:27:12Joe Rogan?

  They are.

• 2:27:12Speaker 02

  They are.

• 2:27:13Joe Rogan?

  But I don't think that, I don't think women have the same opinion.

• 2:27:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's...

• 2:27:19Joe Rogan?

  Have you had a guess?

• 2:27:20Speaker 02

  I don't know. I mean, I was into Red Sonja too, but girls hate Red Sonja.

• 2:27:24Joe Rogan?

  Cause she's too hot.

• 2:27:25Speaker 02

  I know.

• 2:27:25Joe Rogan?

  She's got big old titties and she fucks everybody up. Yeah, she's too hot.

• 2:27:30Speaker 02

  Red Sonja versus Conan.

• 2:27:31Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it weird that like that genre caught fire? Like the genre of like fantasy, like medieval fantasy, like, like chain mail, like iron, big swords, helmets, and then monsters, witches, warlocks, and like, what is that? Like, why did that, why the barbarian era? Why was that so interesting to people? Muscles. Yeah, like for Robert E. Howard, cause he's living this bullshit, soft life, living in his mom's house. Yeah. Can't get any pussy. Fuck, I'm such a loser, you know? Writing these books about a guy who's the ultimate just destroyer, covered in scars, kills everybody, kills all the monsters, never loses.

• 2:28:16Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, yeah. Comes close to losing a couple of times. Never loses. Would you want Arnold Schwarzenegger to play Conan again if he? No. No. What about his son? I think his son. No, the best Conan of all time. Like, how many, first of all, how many Conans have there been? Three, two, three.

• 2:28:35Speaker 05

  Movies?

• 2:28:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I think two or three.

• 2:28:40Speaker 05

  Eighty-two, two thousand eleven, twenty twenty-five.

• 2:28:44Joe Rogan?

  Two thousand, which one was two thousand eleven?

• 2:28:48Joe Rogan?

  Who starred as Conan in the two thousand eleven one?

• 2:28:51Speaker 05

  Weird way to see it. Hold on a second.

• 2:28:54Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:28:55Speaker 05

  IMDb showed this way.

• 2:28:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, I guess, two thousand, Jason Momoa.

• 2:29:03Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that was two thousand eleven?

• 2:29:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:29:06Joe Rogan?

  Why did I think that was earlier than that? Okay. This one, in my opinion, Momoa was the best Conan. Yeah. So there's, how many of them are there other than that?

• 2:29:15Speaker 05

  There's the Red Sonja and there's just the.

• 2:29:17Joe Rogan?

  So the Arnold ones, but there was, nobody else did it other than Arnold. Did they ever do one? Those are animated, but did anybody ever do one other than Arnold and Jason Momoa? I don't think so.

• 2:29:27Speaker 05

  TV show.

• 2:29:27Joe Rogan?

  Okay. There was a TV show, what?

• 2:29:31Speaker 05

  Ninety-seven, ninety-eight.

• 2:29:32Joe Rogan?

  That's gotta be animated, though. Isn't it? Hmm. It has to be.

• 2:29:37Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:29:38Joe Rogan?

  It's not? Wow, that looks. What?

• 2:29:40Speaker 05

  This is around the time of like Xena Warrior Princess.

• 2:29:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, I remember this.

• 2:29:46Speaker 05

  I remember that, too.

• 2:29:47Joe Rogan?

  I remember this. It wasn't bad. He was more realistic as Conan than Arnold was, cause Arnold just looked like a straight up bodybuilder. But Jason Momoa, see if you can find an image of Jason Momoa as Conan. He looked fucking terrifying. He looked like the the most legitimate version of Conan. He's a cool dude, man. I like Jason. Is there any images of him in there? There he is. That's probably what Conan would have looked like. Big dude, but not a bodybuilder, covered in scars. I mean, tough to stay alive back then.

• 2:30:22Speaker 02

  Was that movie good? I don't remember seeing. This was the one that was 3D, right?

• 2:30:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a terrible movie. It's terrible. But it could have been good. It started off good. It started off, I was like, oh shit, this is the best version of Conan ever. It was, it, someone needs to make it like the books, you know?

• 2:30:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's hard to do.

• 2:30:39Joe Rogan?

  To read.

• 2:30:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:40Joe Rogan?

  Ain't nobody reading no more.

• 2:30:42Speaker 02

  Ain't nobody reading.

• 2:30:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, I wonder how much TikTok has killed the book industry? Is it different people?

• 2:30:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's different. That's different people, that's.

• 2:30:50Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, how much has like social media in general dropped the amount of people that read books?

• 2:30:55Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I do so much reading from websites and Twitter and shit like that nowadays that if I was into books, I could see myself not reading as much because I'm reading all day already, you know?

• 2:31:06Joe Rogan?

  Do you find yourself using that phone because it's got a bigger screen more to watch stuff and read stuff?

• 2:31:12Speaker 02

  Uh, I use my, lately I've been using my Apple Vision Pro the most just to watch movies and TikTok.

• 2:31:17Joe Rogan?

  Dork.

• 2:31:18Speaker 02

  Dude, it's badass.

• 2:31:19Joe Rogan?

  You're a real dork. You're TikToking on an Apple Vision Pro?

• 2:31:21Speaker 02

  Hell, yeah.

• 2:31:22Joe Rogan?

  You're in there with them?

• 2:31:23Speaker 05

  I don't do that. I watch a movie on it.

• 2:31:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's the best way to see a movie.

• 2:31:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's awesome.

• 2:31:27Joe Rogan?

  Is it the best way to see a movie?

• 2:31:28Speaker 05

  Better than watching it on your TV.

• 2:31:30Speaker 02

  Better than going to a movie theater.

• 2:31:31Speaker 05

  Clear than watching it on your TV.

• 2:31:33Speaker 02

  And if you're into 3D, best 3D you can ever get, better than any movie theater.

• 2:31:37Joe Rogan?

  And do you have to stay plugged in while you're, have it on or can the battery last all throughout a whole movie?

• 2:31:42Speaker 02

  Uh, the new one lasts three hours, so, and you know, most movies, but I just have like my MacBook charger hooked up to it.

• 2:31:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so you can keep it plugged in?

• 2:31:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm just laying, I'm just laying on the couch, you know, 500 inch screen on my ceiling, you know, and have like maybe like an app on the side, like, you know, message app or something, or, eh.

• 2:32:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I guarantee you do. Do they have that?

• 2:32:04Speaker 02

  Huh? You, you can watch, yeah, all that stuff.

• 2:32:07Joe Rogan?

  You can watch porn?

• 2:32:08Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. You can watch 3D porn.

• 2:32:10Joe Rogan?

  Boy, that's a problem. Porn as big as like a Jumbotron?

• 2:32:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't want that. I don't need to see that. I don't want that. And it's cool, cause like if, if you like hit record on it, you can just go up to your dog, like go up to Marshall and go And then you can watch Marshall in 3D, you know, it's so cool. Like, and it's like the best way to look at photos. And the new one is just so nice, dude, it's.

• 2:32:35Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:32:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:32:36Joe Rogan?

  Why, how come it hasn't really caught on?

• 2:32:38Speaker 02

  Cause of the price, it's so expensive. I just got the new Samsung one. Uh, Samsung just released their vision of the Apple Vision Pro. And it's half the price.

• 2:32:47Joe Rogan?

  What is it called?

• 2:32:48Speaker 02

  Uh, XR, Samsung Galaxy XR, I think it's called. And it's, it's just like the Apple Vision Pro, it's a little bit not as good, you know, but if you don't have the Apple Vision Pro, that's a good for the price, that's a good alternative. And it does the same shit.

• 2:33:05Joe Rogan?

  Watch movies, everything.

• 2:33:06Speaker 02

  But the only problem is that I had, I just got to see how good it was. And if you have the Apple Vision Pro going to that, it's like going backwards, so it's.

• 2:33:14Joe Rogan?

  How much backwards?

• 2:33:15Speaker 02

  Uh, I'd say like 30% backwards.

• 2:33:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really? In quality or in?

• 2:33:20Speaker 02

  Quality, it's just, and it's, but it also just came out, so that, you know, there, there's a lot of bugs and like things they can fix. But there's also like the pass through, I mean, the pass through on the Apple Vision Pro is almost like perfect. You know, like you could drive, you can look at your text through it, I mean.

• 2:33:36Joe Rogan?

  You drive with it on?

• 2:33:37Speaker 02

  You could, but I wouldn't.

• 2:33:38Joe Rogan?

  Do you drive with it on?

• 2:33:39Speaker 02

  No, I don't do it, no.

• 2:33:39Joe Rogan?

  You motherfucker, you're driving with an Apple Vision Pro on, you fucking psycho.

• 2:33:43Speaker 02

  No, I don't. Uh, but, uh, you could, you could.

• 2:33:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you saw the Palmer Lucky stuff, where he has these goggles that you put on with the headset. And, you know, when, you've seen the demonstration, right? So imagine something like that for the world. Where every car has a camera and everybody knows where the accident is, and everyone knows what's happening.

• 2:34:04Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:34:04Joe Rogan?

  So even if you're on like self-drive, if you're driving yourself.

• 2:34:08Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:34:09Joe Rogan?

  You'd be alerted of things like way in advance of what's happening.

• 2:34:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, it should be on your, on your windshield though, like, you know, like up, like the display, like, uh, I, I love that shit, where you're driving, you have a little speed thing pop up.

• 2:34:22Joe Rogan?

  You can see into cars and see people getting roadhead.

• 2:34:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:25Joe Rogan?

  You can see like, like an outline of someone's head bobbing up and down someone's lap.

• 2:34:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:32Joe Rogan?

  The next step in the invasion of your privacy.

• 2:34:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally.

• 2:34:37Joe Rogan?

  So Vision Pro's been around, what, two years now?

• 2:34:40Speaker 02

  Two years now.

• 2:34:40Joe Rogan?

  That's weird that Apple got ahead of everybody else. That's unusual.

• 2:34:43Speaker 02

  That's the first time, right?

• 2:34:44Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:34:45Speaker 02

  The first time and-

• 2:34:46Joe Rogan?

  But they did have to have a giant brick of a battery to do that.

• 2:34:50Speaker 02

  The Samsung has it too. You still have to.

• 2:34:52Joe Rogan?

  How big is a Samsung? Like a laptop brick?

• 2:34:55Speaker 02

  It's about the size of the phone right here, like a phone.

• 2:34:57Joe Rogan?

  That's Apple's as well?

• 2:34:59Speaker 02

  And it's not a big problem because you usually just like have it on the couch and you just have like a wire hooked up to it.

• 2:35:03Joe Rogan?

  How heavy is the one on Apple? Is it the size of a phone or is it bigger?

• 2:35:07Speaker 02

  It's about the size of the phone.

• 2:35:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:35:09Speaker 02

  It's a little smaller and it's not too heavy, but it's not like you hold it or anything.

• 2:35:13Joe Rogan?

  I thought it was like one of those things that comes with the laptop, like those fucking bricks that come that we charge, charge a brick.

• 2:35:19Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. It's not, I mean, it's, yeah, I would say it's about the size of a normal phone. If not, it's a little smaller than this, I guess. But and each one, each one lasts like three hours and then, you know, I have two, so I can just unplug it.

• 2:35:30Joe Rogan?

  You ever watched Kill Tony on it?

• 2:35:32Speaker 02

  I've watched Kill Tony on it, yeah. Like, it's fun watching YouTube and TikToks on it, you know.

• 2:35:38Joe Rogan?

  So it's like a giant screen?

• 2:35:39Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Sometimes I edit on it. Like, if I'm editing Kill Tony, I'll just put that on and then have like a IMAX movie theater that I'm editing on. So it's great. Like if I'm on an airplane or something, I could sit there and have like five screens and like, you know. It's cool. It's great for airplanes too. If you just want to sit there and watch movies and shit like that and-

• 2:35:58Joe Rogan?

  Right. Instead of just staring at a laptop screen.

• 2:36:00Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 2:36:01Joe Rogan?

  And then everyone going, "What are you watching?"

• 2:36:02Speaker 02

  Right, and you can watch-

• 2:36:03Joe Rogan?

  What is that? The original Blade Runner? That's the best one.

• 2:36:05Speaker 02

  Dude, and you can sit there and watch porn and no one will even know.

• 2:36:09Joe Rogan?

  They'll know when your dick gets-

• 2:36:12Speaker 02

  Well, you put your little tray down over it.

• 2:36:15Joe Rogan?

  You gotta be a special kind of fucking creep to be jacking off on a plane with a bunch of people.

• 2:36:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't get that.

• 2:36:21Joe Rogan?

  Some people would just want to get caught.

• 2:36:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:23Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of people out there that's part of the thrill. I'm a naughty boy.

• 2:36:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:27Joe Rogan?

  "I got a blanket over my head because I can't sleep and the blanket just happens to be moving like this."

• 2:36:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, we used to have a problem when I was manager of a movie theater of this guy that would come in and it was an old black guy. He looked like a professor or something like that, shirt tucked in. He always have a newspaper under his arm. And he would just sit in the movie theater like a couple rows behind somebody, put the newspaper on his lap and just jerk off. And we caught him maybe six times. We banned him. And then when I, when I switched movie theater, like I became a manager of another company, a different part of town. He was there too, like, I was like, oh, you guys got this guy here too? Like, he just went to movie theaters and masturbated and got caught all the time. Like, I had to tell him three multiple times, dude, you're banned here, get out of here, you know? I should have called the police, looking back at it.

• 2:37:13Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious. That's his sport.

• 2:37:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37:16Joe Rogan?

  Some people play chess.

• 2:37:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37:18Joe Rogan?

  That guy just jacks off in movie theaters and tries to get caught.

• 2:37:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, and got caught.

• 2:37:22Joe Rogan?

  I'm a naughty boy.

• 2:37:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, right.

• 2:37:24Joe Rogan?

  I'm so naughty. I did it again. I can't believe I did it again. And if you saw him, he'd look like a teacher. He looks so professional back there.

• 2:37:34Speaker 02

  That's probably why he's jacking off in the movie theater.

• 2:37:35Joe Rogan?

  He's probably buttoned down all day long at his job. Has to be proper, but really, he's a naughty.

• 2:37:41Speaker 02

  Naughty boy.

• 2:37:41Joe Rogan?

  Naughty boy. Wants to go whack off in a theater. That's a weird thing with dudes. Want to be naughty, you know? You have to really, a really sick girl to be fingering yourself in a movie theater, like, by yourself? You're a nut.

• 2:37:56Speaker 02

  I mean, it sounds like a good girl to me. I like that.

• 2:37:57Joe Rogan?

  Right, but that's not like something that happens often, I bet. I bet if it's like the amount of people that get caught whacking off in public, it's gotta be like 99% men.

• 2:38:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:38:07Joe Rogan?

  How many women are by themselves just playing with themselves? You're probably already in a hospital if that's, if you're doing that, you know? You're not like a functional member of society like that guy, dressed like a professor, fingering yourself.

• 2:38:19Speaker 02

  I like to think there's a lot like girls.

• 2:38:22Joe Rogan?

  A boy can dream. Can't a boy dream? Yeah, if you wanted to guess the percentages, though.

• 2:38:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, definitely guys more than girls.

• 2:38:33Joe Rogan?

  Way more.

• 2:38:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'd say probably 75, 25.

• 2:38:36Joe Rogan?

  100%.

• 2:38:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:38:37Joe Rogan?

  I bet there's no women who've ever been caught masturbating publicly.

• 2:38:41Speaker 02

  No, there are. There's that famous video that was on TikTok recently about a girl masturbating at a beach or something that just came out.

• 2:38:48Joe Rogan?

  Did she get in trouble?

• 2:38:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, she, it was like a body cam.

• 2:38:51Joe Rogan?

  Real, like, you sure there was real cops? It might be just a video that they made. There's a bunch of those. Where you see like someone getting harassed by a cop and they're like, like, this seems like acting. And then you try to look for the case online. It doesn't exist. Like, this is bullshit. Because before AI, there was a lot of people that were just pretending to make viral videos, like, pretend arguments, pretend fights, pretend cop encounters, like, you know? Chess cam cop footage, that's bullshit.

• 2:39:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a lot of that.

• 2:39:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. So maybe that's bullshit too. I don't know. Who knows? Maybe she's not really. I like to believe it's true. Playing with herself on the beach. You know how nuts you have to be? She's got some sand in there. All those little kids in their shovels. Come shovel mommy's sand. It's getting all swampy and mommy's totally like, ocean's leaking in.

• 2:39:47Joe Rogan?

  That's a dude activity. Yeah. Like, public masturbation. Like, there's a particularly broken woman who wants to play with herself at the beach in front of everybody. Like, you have to be, like, just out of jail. Like, out of your fucking mind. Like, they already be- they must be looking for you already. Like, by the time you're fingering yourself in front of the ocean.

• 2:40:07Speaker 05

  Like, if they go into a room, they can just charge money for it. Guys can't do that.

• 2:40:10Joe Rogan?

  That's true. That's true. Guys can't. You can. You probably can, but only guys are gonna pay for it. Yeah. They're gonna have all these ladies looking at my- no, you're not. No, no, no, no. You're gonna have a bunch of guys. Gay guys, yeah. Yeah, a bunch of gay guys.

• 2:40:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's not, like, how many women have ever been arrested for public masturbation? I put that in. Throw that number into perplexity. See what it has to say. And then make a Frank Fazetta painting.

• 2:40:38Joe Rogan?

  Of this woman fighting off the masturbation police.

• 2:40:44Joe Rogan?

  Cause, like, dudes jerking off in public is a scary thing. Like, oh, this guy's a sex criminal. He's jerking off in public. A woman playing with herself in public is just kinda sad. Hottest- no, it's a hot- it's hot. Can you imagine if that was a problem? You've got too many women. It would definitely be a problem if you were with your husband and, uh, you're walking along, "What a beautiful day at the park." "Mike, look- oh, look over here, Mike. Don't look at it. Don't watch." She's over there, "Come and play in mommy's sandbox."

• 2:41:18Speaker 05

  It doesn't give numbers, it just gives five examples of.

• 2:41:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, ladies have been arrested. Okay, let's see these people. Information, we don't have to say the names. Someone 38-year-old arrested in Florida, of course. Masturbating during a video jail visit. Oh, okay, that's normal. Arrested in Texas for masturbating in public while allegedly under the influence of drugs. Crazy. Arrested in Georgia for masturbating on a public beach using a vibrator. Whoa, that's a wild bitch. And then what's under there? Arrested in Minnesota for masturbating naked in a vehicle? Was she driving?

• 2:41:58Joe Rogan?

  She just sitting in the car? Patrolmen found her lying on the floor of an open gold Pontiac SUV. Digitally penetrating herself. And it's in quotes, it says digitally penetrating herself. Digitally? Yeah, wow. There's a 47-year-old woman with no fixed address. Facing charges of indecent exposure and disorderly conduct after public masturbation. Imagine that's how far you're, not only are you homeless, but you're homeless and whack it off.

• 2:42:27Speaker 02

  So this Austin woman, I just looked her up because it said she was in Texas. Look at her, she's got so many photos though. She's been arrested so many times for masturbating.

• 2:42:35Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, that's her thing?

• 2:42:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:42:37Joe Rogan?

  So, why did she do that?

• 2:42:39Speaker 02

  Drugs, it says, but.

• 2:42:42Joe Rogan?

  So it's a drug?

• 2:42:42Speaker 05

  Oh, I've seen her downtown.

• 2:42:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's downtown, yeah, she's that girl downtown, right?

• 2:42:46Joe Rogan?

  You know her?

• 2:42:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:42:48Joe Rogan?

  Jamie's tight.

• 2:42:48Speaker 02

  Everybody knows her. Yeah, she's always naked and stuff. That and there is a black version I've heard.

• 2:42:53Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, how many times has this lady been arrested?

• 2:42:55Speaker 05

  We could go downtown and find her right now.

• 2:42:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, we could, she's by the bridge usually, Brown Creek in the cave area.

• 2:42:59Joe Rogan?

  That's my kind of homeless person. You know, fixture in the community.

• 2:43:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:03Joe Rogan?

  Like, it becomes a part of the tapestry, right? It makes things more interesting. That's my kind of homeless people, I like them like that.

• 2:43:10Speaker 05

  Six years ago.

• 2:43:11Joe Rogan?

  Ayyyy. Wow, for six years she's been banging out in the streets.

• 2:43:16Speaker 05

  I observe her, she's not wearing any pants at this time.

• 2:43:18Joe Rogan?

  You know, how many people have loved ones that died of some horrible disease? And like, look at this lady, she's out there thriving.

• 2:43:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:24Joe Rogan?

  She's thriving. You know, Frank just took the vaccine and dropped dead playing soccer.

• 2:43:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:31Joe Rogan?

  And this lady is out there thriving.

• 2:43:33Speaker 05

  I think you need to read all this in the Newsweek article, man.

• 2:43:36Joe Rogan?

  Uh, this is in the Newsweek article? Okay, she was named in the affidavit as the general manager of the JW Marriott.

• 2:43:43Speaker 05

  Someone else was, not that. The witness was, the witness.

• 2:43:48Joe Rogan?

  Document noted he heard Nichols, in quotes, "making moaning noises as if she was having an orgasm." How do you know what the kind of noises she makes?

• 2:43:56Speaker 02

  Look above it, "public view in a public place with her legs straight up in the air, spread open."

• 2:44:03Joe Rogan?

  Straight up in the air, she doesn't even tuck. At one point, suspect was seen rubbing herself back and forth on the plastic seat. Hmm, okay.

• 2:44:13Speaker 02

  That's hot.

• 2:44:14Joe Rogan?

  Nah. That's diseases, bro, that's how AIDS gets started, that's the real AIDS.

• 2:44:22Joe Rogan?

  Venereal diseases by themselves, it's a weird.

• 2:44:25Speaker 05

  What's the matter, Jamie? That's what she used to look like?

• 2:44:27Joe Rogan?

  That's what she used to look like.

• 2:44:28Speaker 05

  Holy shit.

• 2:44:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, times are hard.

• 2:44:30Speaker 05

  She's gone to wow.

• 2:44:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, when you are whacking off in public every day, I mean, that's like, you know, face of a female MMA fighter, get scarred up.

• 2:44:39Speaker 05

  The picture I just had up, that was an insanely different looking person.

• 2:44:43Speaker 02

  Well, there's 12 different versions of her.

• 2:44:45Joe Rogan?

  She's been bearing up the boxing with fentanyl for decades.

• 2:44:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:49Joe Rogan?

  What do you expect? You get scarred up.

• 2:44:52Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 2:44:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:54Speaker 02

  She kinda looks like a girl I know, I've never been in that first photo.

• 2:44:58Joe Rogan?

  It's hard out there.

• 2:45:01Speaker 02

  Not for a girl.

• 2:45:02Joe Rogan?

  It's hard for her. See, she's clearly.

• 2:45:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, 2019, there was an OnlyFans, really.

• 2:45:07Joe Rogan?

  She had an OnlyFans?

• 2:45:08Speaker 05

  No, I'm saying she could have been on a different path.

• 2:45:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:10Joe Rogan?

  Not really, she would have, if someone had scammed her, she would have lost it all.

• 2:45:17Joe Rogan?

  OnlyFans is like, uh, what is it? Like, if you look at the amount of money earned, OnlyFans is bigger than like NBA teams. Like, what is the, what is the, what's the amount of money generated by OnlyFans every year? Let's just guess.

• 2:45:34Speaker 02

  God.

• 2:45:35Joe Rogan?

  Let's just guess.

• 2:45:36Speaker 02

  All right. I mean, it's way up there, because I know, I know that there's some girls that make over a million a month.

• 2:45:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they're small. Oh, excuse me. That's a small number. The, the most of them are actually not making much money at all and they're giving up their cruder forever. Which is not good.

• 2:45:54Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:45:54Joe Rogan?

  They're gonna reject, regret it for that fifty bucks a month that they were getting. Most of them are not getting much. It's probably some creep at the office who wants to see your butthole.

• 2:46:03Speaker 02

  I mean, I know girls that they're just bartenders here in town that make thousands of dollars on it and they don't do, they just show their fucking brawls. Like, they're not even showing.

• 2:46:12Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's why you only make thousands. You wanna make millions, you gotta fuck a horse.

• 2:46:18Speaker 05

  Alright, twenty nineteen, the revenue of OnlyFans.

• 2:46:20Speaker 02

  What do you think?

• 2:46:20Joe Rogan?

  Guess.

• 2:46:21Speaker 02

  Uh, one point five billion.

• 2:46:23Speaker 05

  This is pre, pre pandemic.

• 2:46:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, pre pandemic?

• 2:46:26Speaker 02

  Oh, that's probably lower now. Uh, I'll, I'll just say one point five billion.

• 2:46:30Joe Rogan?

  Um, I'll say seven hundred million.

• 2:46:33Speaker 05

  Two hundred and thirty eight million in twenty nineteen. It jumped up to one point seven in twenty twenty.

• 2:46:36Speaker 02

  One point seven billion?

• 2:46:37Speaker 05

  Yeah. The next year, it's the beginning of pandemic. But last year, what do you think it was?

• 2:46:41Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 2:46:42Speaker 05

  Twenty twenty four.

• 2:46:42Joe Rogan?

  Four point fourteen, fourteen billion.

• 2:46:46Speaker 02

  Fourteen billion? Four point five billion.

• 2:46:47Speaker 05

  Just, just under eight.

• 2:46:50Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot.

• 2:46:51Speaker 05

  For three hundred and ninety five million users.

• 2:46:54Joe Rogan?

  And once again, two thousand nineteen, it was what?

• 2:46:57Speaker 05

  Two hundred and thirty eight million.

• 2:46:58Joe Rogan?

  Wow. You wanna hear the craziest number I heard? Something like fifty percent of American males have a subscription to OnlyFans.

• 2:47:11Speaker 02

  Fifty percent?

• 2:47:12Joe Rogan?

  Fifty.

• 2:47:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:47:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's like a statistic thing. I think we looked it up. Like, ten percent of all females in America have an OnlyFans account too, or something like that.

• 2:47:21Joe Rogan?

  Ten percent.

• 2:47:21Speaker 05

  One in ten.

• 2:47:22Joe Rogan?

  Between a certain age group, not like old ladies. Imagine?

• 2:47:27Speaker 02

  I like to think that some more.

• 2:47:29Joe Rogan?

  Ten percent is wild.

• 2:47:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's pretty wild.

• 2:47:32Joe Rogan?

  One out of ten ladies that you meet has an OnlyFans.

• 2:47:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:47:36Joe Rogan?

  And when you think about the number of men.

• 2:47:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's three hundred and seventy five, or excuse me, three hundred and seventy seven point five million user accounts. And that's more than the US population, so obviously it's worldwide, but.

• 2:47:50Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 2:47:51Joe Rogan?

  But isn't it in the United States, like a hundred and fifty?

• 2:47:54Speaker 05

  The United States accounts for approximately fifty five percent of the users. So that's a hundred and, you know, a hundred and what, two, yeah.

• 2:48:02Joe Rogan?

  Basically.

• 2:48:02Speaker 05

  Hundred and ninety million?

• 2:48:03Joe Rogan?

  Basically half.

• 2:48:05Speaker 05

  That's cool.

• 2:48:05Joe Rogan?

  Half of the population. There's on OnlyFans in America.

• 2:48:09Speaker 05

  That's crazy.

• 2:48:10Joe Rogan?

  How's, how can that be true? Is that one of those like Sirius XM things where you get a free subscription?

• 2:48:16Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 2:48:17Speaker 05

  There are free accounts, I think.

• 2:48:18Joe Rogan?

  What? You get a free account for what?

• 2:48:20Speaker 05

  Plenty of girls sign up and like, I'm free right now.

• 2:48:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Oh, that, that's.

• 2:48:23Speaker 05

  So you can just make an account and have free access.

• 2:48:25Joe Rogan?

  But that's still someone, it's like, it's not like when YouTube put their phone, like their, their album on your iPhone.

• 2:48:30Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:48:31Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean?

• 2:48:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not like that, but I think it's because more people, every day people do it. And so like teachers and, and like bartenders, you know what I mean?

• 2:48:40Joe Rogan?

  Teacher gets fired.

• 2:48:41Speaker 02

  Dirty, I'm a dirty teacher. Yeah, that happens a lot. There's a lot of teachers on there.

• 2:48:45Joe Rogan?

  A lot of teachers are fucking kids.

• 2:48:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. Fucking hot teachers.

• 2:48:49Joe Rogan?

  It's weird. It's weird because, uh, everybody smiles when they read those stories. When it's the hot lady and the fifteen year old football player, like, yeah.

• 2:48:58Speaker 02

  There's no victims here.

• 2:49:02Joe Rogan?

  That's one way where we are very prejudiced sexually.

• 2:49:05Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 2:49:06Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. Yeah. It's, but the, this, this sheer number of people on OnlyFans in the United States is mind blowing.

• 2:49:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:49:18Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? Like, think about it, like, that's above everything else. Everything. Like, how many subs, okay, how many subscribers, how many people use Spotify in the United States?

• 2:49:33Speaker 02

  Uh, a lot.

• 2:49:34Joe Rogan?

  Let's guess. Just the United States.

• 2:49:38Speaker 02

  How many people in the United States?

• 2:49:40Joe Rogan?

  Three hundred and thirty three million plus Mexicans.

• 2:49:43Speaker 02

  Okay, I'll say a hundred and fifty million.

• 2:49:46Joe Rogan?

  Hundred and fifty million?

• 2:49:48Speaker 02

  And that's going high. That's a high number, I think.

• 2:49:50Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:49:53Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, cuz I think worldwide, it's crazy. Right.

• 2:50:00Joe Rogan?

  It might be around there. Most people I know have Spotify. Yeah, I think- What does that mean, though? Is that a biased sampling cuz most people I know are my age or younger and listen to music a lot? Right.

• 2:50:16Speaker 05

  Worldwide, seven hundred and thirteen million, two hundred and eighty-one premium subscribers. In the US, it says fifty-five million paid subscribers.

• 2:50:25Joe Rogan?

  Paid? Paid. But there's, I bet that's- But how many users in the United States? Cuz I bet a lot of people don't pay. Paid's kinda small, yeah. Yeah.

• 2:50:35Speaker 05

  I mean, I didn't ask for paid and it just told me paid, so.

• 2:50:37Joe Rogan?

  More people are jerking off than listening to music. That's my point. Yeah. That's crazy. Right. And that's only one of many options to get things to jerk off to online. That's why we need to somehow let, find a way to put tits on music. Dude, we're gonna have vivid experiences that aren't real. That's what's gonna happen. That's gonna be the future of porn. It's gonna be just like AI, so there's no victims. There's not gonna be any real women that are exploited or sex trafficked and forced into doing this. So it's gonna be the hottest maid you've ever had in your life coming to your hotel room. Robots.

• 2:51:15Joe Rogan?

  It won't even be robots, dude. It doesn't even have to be, but it could be. But it doesn't have to be. It can just be an artificial sensation that you- Right. You're, you're willing to sink in to this matrix-like device and it's gonna provide you with some crazy porn scene. That's what it's gonna be. And that's gonna be a real problem because regular relationships are complicated, you know? People have to be attracted to you. They wanna, you know, so they have to work hard to get people attracted to you, whether it's by making more money or by being hotter or whatever the fuck it is. You ultimately want someone to touch you. But it's the moment like that is just something you could order up, like play an audiobook. That's a rap.

• 2:51:54Speaker 05

  Poor females.

• 2:51:56Joe Rogan?

  It's a rap. They're gonna have to get real jobs. They're gonna have to start mining. They're gonna have no slaves in the Congo. It's gonna be all chicks. Chicks mining. Cuz the thing is, they're not gonna wanna do that. Right. Women like their pornography in literature form. They're like novels that are dirty and naughty. They don't wanna see it. They wanna think it. Men wanna see it. So the, and they wanna just experience it. Like if you get to like put goggles on anytime you want, every time you go to take a shit, you just have wild sex. You know, what are you doing in there? I'm just reading the paper. You're in there fucking, aren't you, son of a bitch? You just hear it in the background, like she's calling you from another room. Like it's just ruining your experience. Stop fucking. I'm not, I'm reading the paper.

• 2:52:42Joe Rogan?

  I'm taking a shit and leading, reading the paper, goddammit. Leave me alone.

• 2:52:47Speaker 02

  You don't even talk to me. You're in there in the toilet with the girls in that head thing.

• 2:52:54Joe Rogan?

  It's gonna be a problem, man, because there's already so many incels in this country. There's so many guys that just don't have any intimate relationships at all. I think they... I think there was this thing where they were interviewing young men and trying to find out how many of them have sex on a regular basis. And it's one of like lowest numbers ever recorded. Although like how many times are people asking people?

• 2:53:15Speaker 02

  Right, and who are they asking?

• 2:53:17Joe Rogan?

  Hey, how much you fucking? Do that fucking?

• 2:53:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:53:23Joe Rogan?

  But like, I think it's a very unusual thing for like people, you know, age eighteen to, you know, thirty-four or whatever. Like, young men are having less sex now than I think ever. I think a lot of that is they're not even trying because of the access to porn.

• 2:53:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:53:43Joe Rogan?

  And by the time it comes dinner time, take a lady out, you got no jizz left. You've been beaten off all day.

• 2:53:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. Right. And they're probably also not telling the truth or not, like, I'm not talking to you. Who are you working for? Like, you know what I mean? These kids are like, don't trust anybody and they're not talking to the press.

• 2:54:00Joe Rogan?

  Right, right. Yeah, that's probably true too, right?

• 2:54:04Speaker 02

  They know about privacy and stuff. I'm not telling you.

• 2:54:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're using VPNs.

• 2:54:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, VPNs.

• 2:54:09Joe Rogan?

  Fuck off. Yeah, if you have a VPN, that's the only way you could protect from people knowing exactly what you're doing at any given moment. And even then, like, they're tracking you with metadata, they're tracking where your cell phone's pinging to different towers, you know?

• 2:54:28Joe Rogan?

  And they were giving into more and more of that. And then every time a new phone comes out, it's like a little more invasive.

• 2:54:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:54:38Joe Rogan?

  Give up? We're done?

• 2:54:41Speaker 02

  I'm done.

• 2:54:42Joe Rogan?

  I think we're done. We're done. Red Band just checked out. See how he did that?

• 2:54:45Speaker 02

  No, no, I didn't check out.

• 2:54:46Joe Rogan?

  It's like my dog when he doesn't want to bring the ball back anymore. He's like, "We're done. We're done."

• 2:54:51Speaker 02

  How's the new dog?

• 2:54:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's awesome.

• 2:54:53Speaker 02

  Oh, my god, I love it.

• 2:54:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god, he's so cute. He's so adorable. He's the sweetest little thing. Everybody who picks him up, all he does is just bathe you with kisses. He barks when he kisses you. He gets so excited, he barks. His tail like wags his whole little body. When he wa- he's like one of them dogs, like when he wags his tail, he's whole body, "Oh, my god, oh, my god, oh, my god." He's just jumping up, touching you.

• 2:55:14Speaker 02

  I've always wanted one of those dogs. Ever since I saw In Sex and the City. Yeah, like the, what are they called?

• 2:55:20Joe Rogan?

  Is it King Charles Cavalier Spaniel?

• 2:55:22Speaker 02

  Charlotte had one of those, isn't it?

• 2:55:24Joe Rogan?

  They're so sweet. And, you know, it made me love Marshall even more, if that was possible, because he's the sweetest dog to this little puppy. He lo- he goes to him with toys, try to get him to play with him. It's the most adorable thing of all time. Like, he's just so- golden retrievers are the fucking sweetest animals. Like, we don't deserve them. We don't deserve them. They're so sweet. Like, Marshall has never been anything but sweet a day in his life. He's never had a cunty moment on earth. He's been alive for almost nine years, never had a cunty moment. And he's so sweet to this little puppy. He has this toy, it's like a, like an octopus-looking thing. And he comes over and brings his little octopus over to Charlie. Charlie grabs it and they're playing around. It is so fucking cute, man.

• 2:56:07Joe Rogan?

  He puts his paw on him like this, like a gentle paw on him when they're playing around with stuff.

• 2:56:12Speaker 02

  You gonna clone Marshall?

• 2:56:14Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:56:15Speaker 02

  Why?

• 2:56:15Joe Rogan?

  Because he's, he's Marshall. He's an original. He's, he's his own thing. I don't believe in that. I don't think you have to do that. Like, that's crazy. Meet a new dog. Meet a new dog. I've had a bunch of amazing dogs. You know? And they're all different, and that's part of the fun. You know? Part of the fun is, you don't know, like, "This guy's crazy. Like, what is he doing?"

• 2:56:36Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:56:37Joe Rogan?

  He gets to the door, he goes, "Oh, oh, oh! Where'd you learn that?"

• 2:56:41Speaker 02

  Johnny Cash.

• 2:56:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Oh, Johnny was, he was the sweetest.

• 2:56:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:56:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, every dog's got their own thing, man. That's like part of the fun about being a dog owner. They're all of their own weird little personalities.

• 2:56:53Speaker 02

  One of my dogs is getting so old, though, it's blind and deaf now, and it's the saddest thing. Just, she's constantly running into walls, you know.

• 2:57:01Joe Rogan?

  When Johnny was the last year of his life, I used to have to carry him outside.

• 2:57:05Speaker 02

  That's what we have to do with this dog, yeah.

• 2:57:07Joe Rogan?

  I have to, and Johnny was big, so I used to, I was the only one who could carry him. He's like a hundred and forty pounds.

• 2:57:12Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:57:13Joe Rogan?

  So I'd have to open the door and I'd have to like pick him up and take him into the yard. He would shit and piss, he could barely walk. He could literally barely bend down to shit.

• 2:57:22Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 2:57:23Joe Rogan?

  It was horrible.

• 2:57:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm going through the thing right now, is like, I don't know if I should spend, because it's super expensive, the money to do the cataracts so she can see again at least.

• 2:57:31Joe Rogan?

  How old is she?

• 2:57:32Speaker 02

  Uh, thirteen, fourteen, thirteen, and they usually last about fifteen, so maybe one year left.

• 2:57:38Joe Rogan?

  Surgery is probably gonna wreck her life.

• 2:57:40Speaker 02

  I know, I don't know what to do.

• 2:57:41Joe Rogan?

  And it's gonna be painful.

• 2:57:42Speaker 02

  Imagine giving one more year, like, she can see now, because she's just so sad and depressed now.

• 2:57:48Joe Rogan?

  She might just die, dude. She might die from the operation, she's so old. It sucks, that's the thing about dogs, it's so hard, is they don't, like Johnny was thirteen when he died.

• 2:57:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:57:58Joe Rogan?

  Maybe fourteen, like, he was, and the last year was rough. It was ru- it was so sad.

• 2:58:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't wanna deal with it.

• 2:58:06Joe Rogan?

  I know, I know, it's hard, man, it's hard, you know, but that's what happens when you love something, like, when it's, you gotta have the missing it, like, there's gotta be grief. Because if not for that, you don't feel the love.

• 2:58:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:58:23Joe Rogan?

  The love and the loss, they're all connected in some weird way, unfortunately, and with dogs, they're the perfect example of that, because they're just little love machines. They just give you love, and they're a direct reflection of how you treat them.

• 2:58:37Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:58:37Joe Rogan?

  You know, if you treat them well, and they're happy to see you, and they're sweet to everybody, like, that's, that's a good life, a love life. It just doesn't last long, you know, Marshall's nine, you know, I give him the best food you can get, he's very healthy, he's a farmer's dog, gets plenty of exercise, but I know it's only a matter of time. And it's sad.

• 2:58:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:59:00Joe Rogan?

  It's hard.

• 2:59:03Joe Rogan?

  Anyway.

• 2:59:05Joe Rogan?

  Bring this train into screeching halt.

• 2:59:09Joe Rogan?

  What are you up to other than Kill Tony? You're always doing some weird shit online.

• 2:59:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm doing, I got my fake band going on right now, Cap Red.

• 2:59:17Joe Rogan?

  What is that on? How do you do that?

• 2:59:18Speaker 02

  It's on Spotify, YouTube, Cap Red Music. It's pretty much, I've always made music like Olive Garden, Butthole, all those songs I used to make. But I used to sing it, but so now I just, I write a bunch of music and I use AI to sing it for me and then make it a chick. So I'm like a, and I have like a bunch of music videos and stuff on YouTube that I'm using AI to make. And I scan Janice's face in it, so she plays like the.

• 2:59:43Joe Rogan?

  Are you still doing the, the virtual reality rooms?

• 2:59:46Speaker 02

  I'm doing that too, yeah. I'm doing virtual Red Band, I do that like once or twice a week and I'm.

• 2:59:52Joe Rogan?

  And when, how do people know that when you're gonna do that?

• 2:59:54Speaker 02

  I tweet it, Instagram, or that's on Red Band on YouTube. But yeah, all my stuff's on YouTube, Red Band and Cap Red Music.

• 3:00:01Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 3:00:03Joe Rogan?

  All right, I love you.

• 3:00:04Speaker 02

  Love you, buddy.

• 3:00:05Joe Rogan?

  Love you too. Bye, everybody.

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