Kayvon Thibodeaux New York Giants Defensive star talks rebuilding, finding greatness, off season moves, Saquon Barkley going to Eagles, Coach Daboll & Rookie Malik Nabers impressive training camp

"Be Somebody to Somebody...that's how I got here." Kayvon Thibodeaux As we continue to make our way through NFL Training camps, we continue to visit and sit with star players from around the league getting inside scoop, hearing never-told-before stories and going inside the locker room mentality of the 32 teams as they prepare for the 2024 season. Stopping in the Big Apple after a crazy wknd at Fanatics Fest, we get the opportunity to sit with one of the top defensive players in the league who is looking to lead the New York Giants out of their rebuilding phase and into the post season phase. New York Giants are working on getting back in contention for the NFC East title and we sit with Defensice End, Kayvon Thibodeaux who shares his honest insights into the team's path forward and how the last two years have been transformative not just for him, but for the entire Giants organization. Thibodeaux doesn't hold back as he shares his perspective, takes accountability, and gives blunt honesty about the current state of the team to Ryan, Fred, and Channing. He opens up about how this year's Giants team stands apart from the past, revealing how he and his teammates are learning from their mistakes and recalibrating to make a different type of impact this season. In this episode, Thibodeaux reflects on his journey from his Southern California roots to becoming an #5 overall NFL draft pick. He opens up about the lessons he learned along the way, candidly discussing the responsibility of making money and his commitment to spending his earnings wisely, regardless of outside opinions. Thibodeaux also touches on feeling underestimated as a player, and despite being one of the most dominant linemen in the league right now, preparing for his next chapter- whether that be being a coach in the NFL or managing a NY cricket league. Thibodeaux and the guys also dive deep into the Xs and Os of the game, discussing how changes to the team- like the loss of RB Saquon Barkley- is a loss but doesn't weaken the NYG, only fuels them to work harder. It is important to find consistency with his teammates and have everything "clicking"- as the defensive star candidly reflects on the disconnect that plagued the Giants over the past two years. Solidifying the defensive core with new additions and the excitement around first round pick Malik Nabers has the Gmen fired up and focused for the future. He tells the guys how pumped he is to showcase how the Giants have regrouped and redefined themselves this offseason under Brian Daboll's leadership. We’re 15 days out from NFL Kick Off, and we will continue to bring sideline views and locker room conversations as we gear up for the return of the NFL season! Don’t miss out as we continue to visit teams and connect with players, coaches and meet fans on each of our Pivot stops! Make sure you subscribe to YouTube for hints on upcoming cities and follow along for more training camp content, only on The Pivot in partnership with Fanatics! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  Kayvon Thibodeau is the outspoken rush end of the New York Giants. The former number five overall pick has been a star since his days at Dorsey High School in South LA. He speaks on a disgusting rookie year and building on an 11 and 1/2 sack breakout second season. He says that Saquon should have gotten the bag in New York and talks welcoming the running back back into MetLife Stadium. He's not motivated by those drafted before him like Aiden Hutchinson and Trayvon Walker. He's motivated by self to be the best he can possibly be. With Malik Neighbors, Brian Dayball, better coaching staff and add-ons like Brian Burns, he expects the sky to be the limit for the New York Giants this year.

• 1:13Ryan Clark?

  He goes back into the community and makes sure that the kids of South LA know they need to be somebody to somebody. Follow the Pivot Training Camp tours we stop in New York with Kayvon Thibodeau. So you went to Speedy?

• 1:26Speaker 02

  Man, I had to real, I had to real.

• 1:27Ryan Clark?

  Bro, come on, man.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  I know, I told him to come, you know.

• 1:30Ryan Clark?

  Nah, you supposed to have the camp look.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  I, I tried. Y'all always got me.

• 1:34Channing Crowder?

  Y'all be good-looking dudes.

• 1:36Ryan Clark?

  You went to Speedy?

• 1:38Speaker 02

  I can't, I can't let that keep happening. All these interviews keep happening. I got the camp look.

• 1:43Ryan Clark?

  He texts me too. He said, he gonna text me, tell about, "Yeah, man, Kayvon, he on the way. He be there in a second." And I was like, "Speedy, I know he ain't go get no haircut." You allowed to have the camp look in camp?

• 1:53Speaker 02

  Uh, you know, we got, we got big things off the field, man.

• 1:56Fred Taylor?

  Gucci play you to stay, to stay fresh like that?

• 2:00Speaker 02

  You know, you know, they ain't pay me yet. But it's sweat equity right now.

• 2:05Fred Taylor?

  I got it, got it. You always fresh though. Who your stylist?

• 2:08Speaker 02

  Shit, me? I don't have no stylist. We going? We rolling?

• 2:11Channing Crowder?

  It's always rolling.

• 2:12Speaker 02

  Oh, okay, cool, okay.

• 2:13Fred Taylor?

  We actually looking for somebody for him.

• 2:15Channing Crowder?

  I don't need nobody. You looked over here already.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  Man, listen, this how you feel, man.

• 2:19Channing Crowder?

  Well, he looked over there. What he saw? Cause you say he looked over there. I saw he shook his head. His eyes widened up.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Y'all dressed like me, man. All black with a little bit of color. That's how I do it. You know, not too much.

• 2:47Ryan Clark?

  Welcome to the show, man. Kayvon Thibodeau, this is Fred Taylor, Channing Crowder, I'm Ryan Clark. Welcome to the Pivot, a part of Fanatics. I've known you a while. I got to see you at the opening. Number one player in the country, in your class. And things sort of go according to plan, right? You go to Oregon, you become the fifth overall pick of the draft. You said personally, year one film disgusted you, right? And then obviously year two, you start to make an impact. 11 and a half sacks. Your goal for this year is pretty simple. You said it was greatness. What will define greatness for you in year three?

• 3:23Speaker 02

  I think it's how you play. You know, as simple as that. After being with the Giants for three years now, you start to meet, you know, a lot of greats and a lot of people who played the game the right way. And you sit and you try to ask the right questions. You try to give them the right insight about yourself, you know, and how you're gonna do this next season. And then you gotta sit back and you realize like what component surprises? Or what component does a great actually care about, you know? And then the underlying factor has been how you play, right? The style, playing hard. When you look at all the greats, when you look at, you know, everybody that's come before me, the only thing that separated the good from the great was how they played down in and down out.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  So for me, I think that's what's gonna get the respect I want and I see for myself. And that's what's gonna help keep my legacy on the right path.

• 4:16Ryan Clark?

  Was it injury, was it scheme, or was it you?

• 4:19Speaker 02

  Nah, it's definitely me. It's always me because I'm the one on the field, you know, playing. There's obviously statistics about, you know, I was the first guy with double-digit sacks in that certain system of defense. So, don't get me wrong, there is schematical things that are factors. But when you look at the grand scheme of, you know, how I've done so far, it's all been me. I've been a guy who has consistently analyzed, you know, the type of player I want to be and how to get there. And when you first come in the league, you know, there's always that idea that you got talent and you got hard work. And right in the middle is where like greatness lies. And it's like, if you're too far with the talent, then you you forget about the hard work. You're too far on hard work, then, you know, the talent may not supersede.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  But I think for me, it's, you know, it's finding that gray area and holding myself accountable, you know, when when the the games get tough, you know, end of the year.

• 5:10Fred Taylor?

  Along the lines of what Channing was saying, you were a top pick, yet those four sacks, then you had some injuries in your rookie year. Did the media make it more frustrating for you hearing what they had to say?

• 5:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 5:23Fred Taylor?

  Or the New York media?

• 5:24Speaker 02

  So that's what's funny about it. No, because I, you know, I'm from L.A., so the media stuff, that was, you know, we've been on camera since I was in high school. So I wasn't mad about it. I wasn't frustrated. I think it's just tough, you know. No one really knows football than the people that are playing and the people who've played it. So that part is like, it's a lot of hoopla out there, but just staying focused. That's the the main thing that helped me kind of break through it in my first year. I was able to even get four sacks, you know, and make some big plays in my second year, being able to kind of build momentum and and carry it out. But this year is just finding, you know, little things each week and being intentional, you know, and just continuing to grow.

• 6:01Ryan Clark?

  You have always been outspoken. You mentioned being from L.A. and being comfortable in front of the camera. You've always been extremely comfortable. I remember some of your interviews pre-draft, sitting on set with you at ESPN, and when you leave all the people behind the scenes saying, "Okay, he'll do this job one day," just saying how polished you were young. But also a part of that process was people questioning your effort. And there were also conversations about your character, which to me didn't make sense. But I knew you a little bit more than some of the people who were analyzing your college film. How did that affect you at that time? And how hard have you had to work to dispel those things through the way you carry yourself away from the field and the way you play each day?

• 6:46Speaker 02

  So it's funny, I had these conversations with my peers. And when you are talking about the successes you have with people. When you talk about your motion with people who don't have motion, it seems like you're gloating or you're, you know. But it's like, and honestly, I'm just talking about what I got going on. So for me, I just had to continue to evaluate my circle, evaluate how I'm being held accountable, evaluate how can I be really direct with how I interact with people, right? And understanding that like every interaction you have is a testament to your legacy. So once I kind of filtered that, of course, I mean, you know, everybody has their own opinions and everything else.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  But for me, I was always a guy who was a stand for something or fall for anything. You know, so I was always gonna stand for something. And the hard part about having an opinion or choosing a side is that you have to choose a side. You know, nowadays, a lot of young people are, you know, OK with being in, just being a third person. For me, I always like to choose a side and kind of stand frontline on that.

• 7:56Ryan Clark?

  So for me, I look at you and I feel like you can move in different circles. Right? You can sit up here with us and have a conversation. You can be in meetings with CEOs and have conversation. Work with Chase Bank and bring financial literacy to your old high school. So you have found a way that you're able to relate to a ton of people. And I think a lot of that deals with your upbringing. You transferred from Dorsey to Oak Christian, and you were going to school in a place where the median income was $112,000. When you left a place and the median income there was $32,000. What was that transition like for you to go from where you were born and raised

• 8:38Ryan Clark?

  to now being in a place that gave you a better opportunity to succeed in life? But it was around a different group of individuals than you had grown.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  So it was like a double edged sword where you have survivor's remorse from being afforded a great education, great resources, mentors that had more resources, had more experiences because of sport, right? So I had that, I was woke real young, you know? They say the earlier you're woke, the longer you live. So I was woke real young and it kind of weighed heavy on me seeing everything I was afforded because of what I could do in sport. So that kind of put a chip on my shoulder as I started to go through my processes. And I think when you look at the difference and why, for me, I've cut out a lot of BS and a lot of coonery out of my life, right?

• 9:28Speaker 02

  And I say that because we have to analyze the cards we're dealt and we have to make the best decisions with them. You know, being at Dorsey, being in the inner city and, you know, just understanding how many athletes, how many kids, how many young men and women are not just looked over, but they're dealt the wrong cards and they have no understanding of how to play them. That hurts, you know, especially when they look like you, talk like you. And then fast forward some years later, I've been able to set goals and that's been my whole life. Like it's not a rags to riches story, but it's a set goals and accomplish them and set more goals, right? Because that's how we've all, you know, have been able to accomplish our dreams.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  So I've just been setting goals and now that I'm in a position with a platform, I just try to continue to, you know, use the resources I have to be in life for the kids that, you know, come from my area.

• 10:21Channing Crowder?

  How do you walk that line of, I'm with you, we all been through it, survivor's remorse, where, oh man, you made it now. You know, act like, they act like it's a lot, like you hit the lot.

• 10:30Speaker 02

  It's a lot.

• 10:31Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, nah, I worked hard to get this bread. But that line to walk where people will take advantage of you.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:38Channing Crowder?

  But also you do want to help out your people, you do want to help out your community, like that tight line, you a young dude too. You know what I'm saying? We all old, you know, we damn near double your age. You a young dude walking that line, being as young as you are.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  It's tough, you know, it's like being a rookie, man. When I first realized, it's like I got to distance myself. You know, that's the whole thing when you're in college, you go to college, you go away, it's like, all right, you're in this bubble, you got to. Eliminate as many variables as possible, right? So whether it's the homies, whether it's distractions, whether it's this, whether it's that, it's like, all right, I gotta eliminate that, be where my feet are and do what can help me in the long run, right? And now that I am where I am now, you know, you look at it and it's like, okay, you can't run from who you are, where you come from, or the problems that, you know, we have to deal with. So it's like, you gotta find a way to deal with them, you know? And then you probably all have went through it just the burden of trying to create a life

• 11:31Speaker 02

  for the people around you, you know? You can't, essentially, you can't, no matter what it is. I think the answer at the root of all our problems is education. Maybe not all our problems, obviously, but. A ton of them. A ton of them is education. So that's another pillar that it's like, for me, I'm dying hard on education. I'm living, I'm gonna die on that hill, because it's like, no matter how much money we have in the now, it's not what you have, it's what you do with it, right? And if we're not equipped with the tools to do something with it, we'll just continue to lose it. So for me, I had to get away and I had to educate myself even more from a adult perspective, because now it's like, yeah, I'm a college kid going through, I'm making money and I'm doing this, but it's like, okay, now I have to talk about life insurance with my family.

• 12:13Speaker 02

  Now I have to talk about wills and 401Ks and what's the insurance plan? You know, I've talked more insurance in the past two years than I've ever talked in my life, and I never understood it. It's called getting old, brother. It's called getting old, you know? And it's like, the faster you can understand it, the easier, you know, it will be to, you know, continue to push everybody in the right direction.

• 12:31Fred Taylor?

  We've all been afforded opportunities leaving high school to select a college.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Oh, he was, oh. I got to pick my college? What, what you mean? Hey, so when y'all get old, y'all still be talking about people didn't have offers and stuff? Yeah, like, what? Yeah, it's crazy, right? But not everyone is. Yeah, that's nuts. That's still a difference, though, right? Like, you have top, top recruits that, you know, you can just lay out. Wait, was any of y'all drafted? Top five?

• 12:57Ryan Clark?

  He was nine.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Aw, damn.

• 12:59Ryan Clark?

  He was a preferred walk-on.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:01Ryan Clark?

  You can't be preferred walk-on in the league. Like, that's not the thing.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  So, we just practiced against Detroit and I heard somebody on the other side like, "I got drafted top 10. You blessed to be with me." I'm like, "Oh, that's a good one." I'm like, "Damn, that's a good one."

• 13:15Fred Taylor?

  That does make a lot of sense, but no, we all, we had options. You were the number one player in the entire country. So, for me, you could've stayed home.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:25Fred Taylor?

  Went to USC. You could've went anywhere. But you chose Oregon. Going back to what you were saying about having to get away, like, was that like a big part of your decision? Like, why did you choose to go to Oregon of all the places that you could've gone?

• 13:41Speaker 02

  So, I grew up right next to USC. Right, like, right there, Martin Luther King Boulevard, like, right in the mix. And when you look at, at the time, when you looked at USC, there were so many guys that I knew personally that didn't reach their potential. And whether it be distractions, whether it be, whatever it is, Oregon was not too far, not too close. Right, where you can get away, but family still get there. You know, I had offers all over. Went to Florida, went to Florida State, Alabama. Those were too far. I'm an LA kid, and you stand out when you're in the South a little bit. So, you notice, I talk a lot already, so being down there, they weren't gonna take too kindly to my kind.

• 14:20Ryan Clark?

  My kind?

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, my kind. But it was, it was definitely, you know, some great experiences going down South. At the end, my plan was to, one, at that time, do sports broadcasting. And, you know, there was this rumor going around that if you went to Oregon, you'd have a chance to work at Nike. Right, and those were one of the biggest brands I knew. I knew D'Anthony Thomas was a guy coming out of LA. So, for me, it was like, I could do what I want for my career, which is have an opportunity to play, young, get developed, and then get education. And then from there, you know, they had my major and things like that as far as journalism, sports broadcasting, marketing, and then Phil Knight and the rest.

• 14:58Ryan Clark?

  You talked a lot about what you could create away from the field, even as an extremely young man. I think, to me, that was one of the more impressive things about you, even though you ended up being a top-five pick and everyone expected you to be that, even going into the last year before injuries. Something I read about your visit to Dorsey when you did the thing with Chase Bank was, one of the young ladies said... The thing I take away from today is I want to be somebody for somebody. And I thought that was amazing for a young person to say. It's when Kayvon Thibodeau goes back to Dorsey, you are somebody to a lot of people. And for that young lady to say that, that she took that away from your program. What does that saying in itself mean to you?

• 15:44Ryan Clark?

  And how good does it feel that you were able to impart something like that on to her?

• 15:49Speaker 02

  Be somebody to somebody, that's how I got here today. Right? I had somebody who was a figure in my life. We all, you know, have missing pieces in our life. And God puts people along our journey to help fill those pieces. And I think it's up to us as the young people to continue to ask those questions, reach out to the mentors, to the people, you know, who pour into us, and appreciate it. So, you know, having her appreciate it and be woke, you know, woke was a word of 2020. It was like most used word or something like that. But like, seriously, like when you have an opportunity and you understand the weight of it, you can make the right decisions. So, you know, for me, it's great to continue to see young men and women

• 16:34Speaker 02

  take heed to the information that we're continuously giving. Because that's what's gonna help us be, you know, further off.

• 16:41Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. Has any, I want to say, organization or coach or administrative position in your life ever criticized that? Because there's an old saying, a lot of coaches say it. Make the main thing the main thing. Like, bro, you a top pick coming out, top player in college, you gonna be a top draft pick. Why you worried about all that? Even now, you playing chess, you buying cricket teams and shit, like. You had a lot of criticism with that?

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Uh, man, you know, it's the fear of the unknown, man. You, back in the day, they wanted us, they didn't, they don't care how we spend our money until we spend it to put ourselves in position of power. When I walked into rooms and I'm sitting with owners and they're laughing, not, they're not laughing in a condescending way, they're laughing in a great way. And they're telling me, oh, my gosh, we bought, me and your owners were playing golf together. Or me, or we bought the Giants for 500 bucks. It's like, oh, my gosh, like, I'm so proud that y'all feel that way because I want to feel that way. Where I can sit and I can say, I invested my, the hard work that I put in in my life helped me continue to grow.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  And I was able to buy a team or I was able to be a part of something that the world can witness. You know, so for me. It's like, yeah, being a player, people underestimate you, you know? Like now, we're trying to do different things. You know, we're not, the sport, the sport chose us, but it's not who we are. I mean, yeah, I've got a lot of criticism about want to do more stuff, but that's how you know you're doing it right. People weren't talking about it, you wouldn't be doing, you're not doing the right thing. So I just continue to know that none of it is possible without the sport. And I think that's where, you know, you can be naive, right? We've seen it a bunch of, a bunch of times where guys think that the celebration is more important than the actual play.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Or, you know, the, the after-party is more important than the game. But it'll, it'll never be that way. It'll always be what you do on the field. So I think as long as my mentality is still what it is, and it's for education and knowledge, that no one can stop me but me.

• 18:40Fred Taylor?

  Along with that, what are some of the, um, the biggest lessons you've learned since, you know, being drafted?

• 18:47Speaker 02

  I think one lesson, and it's an old lesson, is just like, you don't have to share your ideas. I think I'm a guy who, I'm an idea guy. And that's where people judge you, right? Cause I have a lot of ideas and I like to bounce them off people. But either they gonna take them, or they gonna look at you a certain way because you thought of something they didn't, right? Whether it's a good, positive way or negative way. And then leadership, you know, I think leadership is something that is in me, right? Since I was a kid, I've always kind of been gregarious and outgoing. And I think learning how to channel it and be a leader when times get tough and be a righteous leader. I think that's where sport and reality have to intertwine.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Because I've really came, I've just come to the, you know, reality that everything off the field affects on the field. Your business affects your play, affects your at-home, affects your spiritual life, you know? It's all intertwined. And once you learn to live in the light. A hundred percent of the time, it'll breathe through you rather than trying to force it out. Living righteously is my term I use, the term I use around the locker room because that's, that's the reality of the moments we're in, right? Are you making the right decisions that match the goals that you have? And continuing to kind of harvest that and do it with a positive attitude.

• 20:10Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, it's about, it's about your actions matching your priorities. You know, you say it, you know, there's sayings about priorities all the time, but it's, show me where you spend your time and you've shown me your priorities, right? What your goals are and how are you sowing into those goals? And part of being able to give back to a community is having a platform and also that platform providing for you monetarily.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:35Ryan Clark?

  In January or so, you were asked about what happened with Saquon. And this is before he became a Philadelphia Eagle. We obviously all got to see how that unfolded in the offseason through offseason hard knocks. And you said, you thought Daniel earned and deserved his money. But at the time, you said, I also would have wished that Saquon would have been taken care of.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:57Ryan Clark?

  Why was it, because that, to me, that's a leadership statement.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:00Ryan Clark?

  From a very young player. Why would you have wished that Saquon was taken care of?

• 21:05Speaker 02

  Again, and this is where I've matured and I've gone through my, I guess, life understanding that like, when you choose a side, you gotta be ready to stand on it, you know? So like, everything that goes viral is someone's opinion on something and things like that. So when I look at the Saquon Barkley situation, that man put a lot of work in regardless of, now, I don't, I'm not the bookkeeper, right? So I'm ignorant to the deals and things like that on who's negotiating, who's holding out and things like that. But from a player perspective and the people, right, and they said, this is a democracy, right? Like, the people were out, it's like Dexter Lawrence. Dexter Lawrence, what he says goes, you know?

• 21:48Speaker 02

  And it's not because he get paid the most, it's not because he the coolest guy, it's because we see the work that he puts in every game. And it's just like, You don't take anything from Daniel, that's our quarterback, of course. He deserves every penny that he gets and he's gonna get and he's gonna lead us to do great things. The running back position, and me personally, it's tough, man. It's that sacrificial lamb, right? It's the guys who, he's getting the ball 30 times a game. We're watching, I'm on the plane, sitting next to him, seeing how beat up he is after a win or a loss, seeing whether he gets the ball or he doesn't get the ball, he's still beat up because there are so many guys coming after him. So it's like, when you're in that sport and you're playing for the guys next to you, it

• 22:33Speaker 02

  hurts when you know that the heart and soul of your team is not, he doesn't feel that he's getting treated, regardless of really what I feel about it, you know, because it's not my money, it's not gonna affect me either way. But it's like, you know, you feel for your teammates, you know, I know across the NFL, it was maybe, it was possibly a time where running backs are gonna hold out. And for me, I was waiting on it, because I was gonna be right with him, because I understand when you're a guy on the field, you know, that put a lot of work, even our linebacker, Bobby O'Carroll, you see how many plays he's made, if you see what he did last year, he should have been in the Pro Bowl. And that irritated me, like that's, like, now I'm ready to go win, and we talked about, like, let's go win the Super Bowl for Bobby, for, let's go win it for Daniel, let's go

• 23:14Speaker 02

  win it for the dudes, for Dex, or the dudes who have been here putting in the work and, you know, just showing it, you know, to wear it on their sleeve. So, hey, it's neither here nor there, it's just, I like to be a guy who stands up for what's right morally. Granted, business and everything else always trumps, because business is what keeps the lights on, so.

• 23:34Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, money talks, and I think, I don't think it's our, it's not my position in even the job I have, or being a former player, or yours, to count pocket. But I do think there's always something to be said for players in the locker room who understand what those next to them mean. Same situation for me, Troy Palamalu was fighting for a contract, and he's sitting in my room. During training camp and tell me the numbers. And when he tell me the numbers, I'd be like, I don't see how they don't try to pay you double that. Right? But that was also the business and I know that affected me. And obviously he was able to get his deal done, so we were able to play together. But so much, I think of that, the owners, the executives don't understand because we're closer to the people

• 24:19Ryan Clark?

  that wear the logos on the helmets than the people that wear the logo on polos. That's just the way it works. But for you now, to have a guy like Dexter, who was at, first of all, he biggest this door. Like we saw, we saw him today. You know what I mean? And now you add Brian Burns to the other side. You think about the ascension that you made. To me, just the natural growth of what your talent and hard work have brought you to. What are some of the expectations of what you guys can now create up front for the defense in New York?

• 24:49Speaker 02

  I'm not just thanking God for Dexter Lawrence and Brian Burns, but the coaching. With a good coach, you can do a lot of great things. We got some great coaches in here and I understand we had great ones, you know, before. But the way that these players are as far as Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Bobby O'Carroll, K. Like we're definitely meshing together. Our individual skills are getting better. If you ask me, how do I feel compared to last year to now? I mean, last year's film is disgusting. That's the truth behind it because it's like now you see what, what you can really do with, with the right tools. And we just gotta keep doing it, man. Gotta stay healthy. But I'm super excited. I think this is, things happen for a reason. And as long as we keep honoring and living righteously, everything we want to happen is gonna happen.

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• 26:04Fred Taylor?

  Who's the best player on your defense?

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Best player on my defense? Hey, Freddie T. Freddie T. The door.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  The best player on my defense, like, man.

• 26:15Fred Taylor?

  Big man, come on now.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  I mean, it's a hard, it's like a five-way tie.

• 26:21Fred Taylor?

  I wanted to be that.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  It's like a five-way tie right now.

• 26:23Fred Taylor?

  I don't expect you.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  What's the five-way defensive tie? Five-way, if I had a bet and we came back 10 years later, off top, I'm going Dex, Bobby, Burns, me, and Tay Banks. I like Tay Banks. Taking play, actually. That's, you know, he's still young, obviously, I'm still working, so I ain't, you know, and there are guys definitely in the mix, there are more guys in the mix, so I know I left some out, sorry, y'all. But, like, I think Dex, Bobby, Burns, and myself personally, with the right coaching and the right stuff, can be Hall of Famers one day.

• 27:00Fred Taylor?

  It takes, um, that's an amazing answer. I think, especially for top pick type guys, right? Because you could have easily said, "I'm the best." But clearly, you see that there's a lot of room for improvement. You know, you mentioned looking back on last year, you say that shit is suck. You know, so in terms of expectations and goals for yourself for this season, what are some of those?

• 27:24Speaker 02

  Man, I'm trying to be the best defensive end in the run. In the run. In the run. That sounds like that's for some media that's outside. In the run and in the past. Nah, because, you know, everybody always talking sacks, but it's like, are you setting the edge? Are you, you know, whatever. But, I want to be an all-around four-down player. I want to help my team win. I want to win, win, win, and I want to get sacks. I'm here to get sacks. That's what I want. I want a lot of them. I want them now. I want them tomorrow. I want them every day. Every time I'm here, I'm going for the record. Why am I going for the record? Because that's the most anybody has gotten. And I want the most.

• 28:04Fred Taylor?

  Do those two guys that were taken ahead of you in the 22 draft, Hutchinson and Trayvon, do they motivate you to?

• 28:14Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:14Fred Taylor?

  You know?

• 28:15Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:16Fred Taylor?

  Not at all?

• 28:16Speaker 02

  Nobody motivates me but me. Because then what happens when I surpass them? Then I lose my motivation. You know, but like, you know, and that's the thing with comparisons. Like, if I compare, what happens when I superseded? Then we just gonna find somebody like... And that's the thing, and that's like, that's my maturity thing. Because it's like, when you see, I had a talk with Carmelo Anthony, right? And I asked him like, you played in the league for however long. Are you satisfied with what you did? Kobe is gone. Kobe passed away. They're still saying, oh, is he better than him? Is he better than him? Is he better than... You realize, and they gonna never stop. As long as we put these jerseys on, they gonna compare. They gonna put a stat to a stat, a number to a number. I mean, they gonna...

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Those cats are gonna play great. They got drafted. They did that moment. Hopefully, they got as big as goals as I got. And they gonna meet me up there. But other than that, I know that God only gave me the tools that I got. And everything else that I'm learning, I'm getting from people. I'm putting it together. But, you know, only, I gotta live in the house that I gotta build.

• 29:20Channing Crowder?

  Yep. You talking about legacy. Well, I just stay in this building. You got Stray, who got the record. 22 and a half.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 29:27Channing Crowder?

  And then you got LT.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  So somebody did it. That's what I'm saying.

• 29:30Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 29:31Speaker 02

  Everybody looking at me like, why he keep saying the record? Because somebody did it. You know what I'm saying?

• 29:35Channing Crowder?

  And he be walking around here.

• 29:36Speaker 02

  He did it. I didn't touch his hand. He did it. We palm to palm. So I can do it.

• 29:41Channing Crowder?

  And so Stray and LT, who's my favorite player. I had a Rottweiler named LT when I got in the league. First thing I bought was a Rottweiler named Lawrence Taylor.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Why? Why'd you buy a Rottweiler?

• 29:50Channing Crowder?

  I wanted a Rottweiler and I was rich.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  That... Man, it's not too many rich people who buy a Rottweiler.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Do you think it should have been another dog? No, I think that, you know, I've, you know.

• 30:02Ryan Clark?

  You a labrador doodle guy?

• 30:03Speaker 02

  No, I'm just, we just don't have time for dogs. So I'm just wondering, by Rottweiler, he's just a junkyard dog. Yeah, he just eat when, he eat when you say he eat, huh?

• 30:13Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, he was struggling sometimes. He got a little thin during the season.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  I could tell, man, I know.

• 30:18Ryan Clark?

  But not, but just to have those guys, like you said, you done met Stray. I'm sure you might have met LT being around there. What do you do to get to that, you young bro, it's numbers.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  That's what I'm reading.

• 30:27Ryan Clark?

  What do you do like to really get to like saying, work harder in the simple stuff? But what do you do to become that guy?

• 30:33Speaker 02

  Man, you be available. You don't get hurt, you win games, and you run to the ball. That's the answer.

• 30:39Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  That's the answer. And that's what I had to realize, there's no secret sauce. I went to LT, I said, man, what's the secret? He said, you know damn well there ain't no secret. I run to that ball. I don't care if everybody, you know, and some players that say, I did my job. My job is whoever got the ball, for real. And that's the mentality that I did not have, that I had to open my eyes and look myself in the mirror and say, if you really want to be the greatest, that's what you gotta do. And there's nowhere around it, there's nothing else, I don't care how many pass rush moves you got, it don't matter. You gotta run to that ball, and you gotta go get that ball every play. And if Burns, think he finna get the sack, I gotta get it before him. How? By running to that ball just faster than him. Dex gonna get there, he gonna go through some people. If I gotta go around him, it better be faster than he go through him.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  And we working together, but we gotta continue to push each other in accountability. And that's to live righteous, you know, when you put that tape on, is it gonna be disgusting? How many more years can I look back and say, that was disgusting?

• 31:35Ryan Clark?

  That's real.

• 31:36Speaker 02

  There's not, you look at a dude like Aaron Donald, he went 10 years, 10 Pro Bowls. It's my 30th year in, I haven't been to one. How many more before my legacy has changed, you know? How many, we don't have more time. So you gotta do it, you know, today.

• 31:49Ryan Clark?

  Well, I think the thing is, the legacy has to start, right? And I think, but it starts with effort, like that's a part of the legacy. When you think about the great defensive players, they're all hunters, right? They hunt the ball the entire time. And, you know, I think that's the dog mentality, but was it Lawrence Taylor that said, pack of wild dogs? Like, that was his mentality. But it's also like, you gotta have them around the building to win. You know, I don't know nothing about being a top 10 pick for it, clearly, or being picked at all. I do understand that.

• 32:19Fred Taylor?

  Damn.

• 32:19Ryan Clark?

  Okay, that's enough.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  Man, y'all keep going back on that. I thought y'all successful now, man. They do it all the time. Probably leaving the past in the past.

• 32:27Fred Taylor?

  But that's the thing, is the past sometimes is okay that it reminds you, right? Because RC works his ass off because of that. That's where his mentality comes from. He was the underdog. He wasn't drafted.

• 32:38Speaker 02

  I'm like right in the middle, man. I feel like if you're living in the past, you ain't got no motion. You know what I'm saying? Anybody keep bringing up your past, like, man, talk about the money in my pocket right now. Talk about what I'm doing today.

• 32:48Ryan Clark?

  Here's the good thing, K. For us, though, it's not about money, right? It's about the fact that you all have a different route to whatever your destination is, right? My place ain't his place. His place ain't my place. You mentioned the foundation you're building your house on. My thing was always, as long as my house is comfortable for me, I don't care what the house down the street looks like, right? But in order for me to get where I got 13 years in, I had to play with other people who had a like mindset. And that was both offensively and defensively. Y'all first-round pick this year is Malik Neighbors. I've been watching him play football since he was in high school. I'm from Louisiana. He's from right there in Louisiana. He seemed to bring whatever attitude made him a great player in college to New York.

• 33:33Ryan Clark?

  What are some of the things you've seen from Malik so far through OTAs and camp that make you believe he's a great addition to this team?

• 33:41Speaker 02

  Oh, I say the good thing is he don't talk much. That's the great thing, you know, when you get a guy who's that good, I'm the last guy who's gonna tell somebody they good, just because nothing's ever good enough. But that young man, he's a baller. He didn't come in with nothing to say, you know, and that's tough, obviously. And I'm a guy who came in with something to say. So you talk about, you know, the impact he's having is strictly through play. It's strictly through, you know, how he's gonna contribute to the team. I think he's gonna ascend into a leadership role eventually when his, you know, when his time is right, when, you know, he feels ready. But I think it's seeing... The electricity when you play defense for me, you know, specifically. Sometimes you feel okay when you, when, when defense get beat going against the ones.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  You know, when you see a big catch, sometimes it's like, alright, we battling now.

• 34:30Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, they gotta score sometimes.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying? So it's like, when you see him going and making a catch, when you see these things, it's, uh, it's inspiring. You know, so being out there with him, I mean, I think he's gonna continue to get better and he's gonna continue to make the guys around him better. And all, all the guys around him are gonna make him better. And we're definitely a different team than we were last year.

• 34:51Fred Taylor?

  Coach D, what y'all gotta do to keep the weight off him? Cause he say he gonna put it back on.

• 34:56Speaker 02

  I got one favorite. You asked him, man. I, I, I want y'all to keep him slim, man. He looks great. Hey, hey, I say.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  Hey, man, hey, health is wealth, man, health is wealth.

• 35:09Channing Crowder?

  They don't count a man pocket, you can't count a man scale. That man do what he want.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, but I'm sure, look, leadership inspire, like you, you can inspire him to stay slim and trim, man, like. Hey, man, if we win, I don't care what size he is. Hey, that's real talk. Hey, that's real talk.

• 35:26Channing Crowder?

  What about, what about Dave's as a coach? Anybody played for him, love him. He was down, he was in Buffalo. I was in Miami, he was in Miami for a while. Coach of the year two years ago. And then the last year, you know, team struggled, so now people start questioning him. You know how this league is, but you done been with him both of his years. How is he as a coach?

• 35:42Speaker 02

  You know, I think coaching, teaching, parenting, any form of mentorship is like a combination of good information, bad information and ego, right? It's all older people wanting to tell younger people either what they went, what they went through, what's important, what's actually good information. He's a guy who just sticks to good information.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  And that's it, that's it. All, it's a lot of coaches, whether you're in college, high, it's like, all of the, what are we doing up downs for? And I'm, you know, we're in the league, so we're not really doing it, but it's like, even in high school, it's like, what are we doing it for? What are we, why are we doing this? And that was my thing, why I got backlash, because I want to know, why am I doing this? And he tells you why, and you know why, and it's simple, where there's not, oh, you gotta run five gasters because you didn't know to play. How is that going to help me learn to play? Just the translation of information is a lot more direct, and it's, I'm not going to say lighthearted, but it's a job, right? He's here, we're all here, we're all sophisticated professionals that have to get their job done. He understands that, and he keeps it light, right?

• 36:51Speaker 02

  This is, obviously, you know, when you're here for 20 weeks, 25 weeks, it can get, the building can get kind of gray. So he continues to uplift the building and continue to let light shine in and let players be players.

• 37:02Ryan Clark?

  What was more difficult for you to have an early injury, your rookie year, sort of have to work your way into making an impact individually? Or having a year where we saw the talent that made you the number five overall pick? We saw the statistics go up, but your team struggled. What was more difficult?

• 37:23Speaker 02

  Man, losing sucks, okay? That's just, you know, let's get that out the way now. But losing and sucking sucks. See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? So granted, if you win, and people lie, people lie all the time. If we win and I don't play good, I'm happy. They're lying, that's not true. If you're a competitor, you want to play good at all times. So for me, the sacks and the numbers don't matter, but if I play good, I can, I can sleep at night. So when we were four game, you know, and I had four sacks, I was sleeping at night. Because they weren't coming, but I was playing good. As long as I just kept getting better, it was going to come. And I knew that, and I understand that going in.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  You know, you got guys like Michael Strahan, you got guys, you know, coaches and things who are, keep feeding me positivity, knowing that I'm playing good and I'm doing things the right way. So that was okay. Now when we start losing.

• 38:17Ryan Clark?

  The question is this though, right? You're talking, and I'm 100% with you. I've left games that we have won and been in the worst mood. Right? Because I'm glad we got the W, but I know that when we cut this film on, that ain't what I'm supposed to look like. That's not the way I'm supposed to be. Right? But there's the other side of that too now. There's the dude that I've watched walk out of the locker room. Know he played a great game. Let's say he a DB. He got 12 tackles, two picks, two PBUs, a fumble recovery. But we still take the L, and they bounce onto the plane feeling real good about themselves.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's weak. That's weak too.

• 38:49Ryan Clark?

  So I'm saying, last year, you played extremely well, but the team struggled. What was the feeling for you individually?

• 38:56Speaker 02

  It's still weak. Like, for me, and we laugh all day, like, pressures, and this is just a correlation. Pressures are weak. You ain't getting a strip sack. I don't want to, I don't care about no pressure. You know? If you're not winning, I don't care about what stat line you had. You can, this basketball, you go 40, 10 and 10. Y'all lost. But we partying. I don't care about that, you know? But for, from, from the team perspective, it was just constantly just seeing where I could get better. And I think that was the real hard part. It's because now it's like, okay, I'm doing good, but something's not clicking.

• 39:31Ryan Clark?

  Yep.

• 39:31Speaker 02

  Right? And that's where I had to reevaluate my leadership. I had to reevaluate who I was, my identity as a part of this collective. Right? How I could impact it. Me, I feel like I'm a leader, and I felt like my second year, they didn't, people didn't look at me as a leader. So I wasn't able to affect, you know, the defense or the people around me the way that I envisioned in my head. So now it's like, okay, there's more I can do. There's, I can be more intentional with my interactions. I can be more intentional with how I analyze. I got 11 and a half sacks. That's off talent. That was talent. But when you click on that film, there's some style and there's some identity that you don't want on there.

• 40:12Ryan Clark?

  Yep.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  You know? There's some stuff that's, when you watch the tape, it's like, yeah, okay, you got two sacks, but that's not greatness. And that's kind of, that, the word greatness, that's my word. Because it's like, that stops you from doing bad things, and that continues to keep you doing good things. Like, if you're not doing something that's conducive to greatness, what are you doing? So for me, it was like, I had to realize, like, let me have a real conversation. Like, 11 and a half, is that greatness? No, I didn't, I had zero sacks in the last five games. That's not, that's not greatness.

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• 41:11Speaker 02

  That ain't what you want to do.

• 41:13Channing Crowder?

  Along in this conversation, how you feel about the guy that win or loss, play good or play bad? Oh, Lord. You got the table already reserved on Sunday night. I got the bottle. The bottle had it already in the cooler. You know what I'm saying? I might already have the second table reserved at the late night spot. Like.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  So that's why, and that's why people don't like me because I'm the same. You know what I'm saying? I'm not killing nobody if I win. I'm not killing nobody if I lose. I'm OK in here, you know? And that's the living righteously thing that you got to live by because if you do it the right way, if you did everything you could do, you could sleep at night.

• 41:48Channing Crowder?

  That's real.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Right? So for me, I'm even. So, yeah, you're right. I do be, you know, hey, so we still going to dinner or no? Is it too early?

• 42:00Channing Crowder?

  Is it too early to ask?

• 42:03Speaker 02

  I made the reservation. Is it too soon? My bad.

• 42:08Ryan Clark?

  So I do have this question though, right? Because I think there's a time for all of us where certain things click. And I asked you the question about when you were leaving college that is sometimes your effort was. You self admittedly on the show said, hey, now I've learned I have to go hunt the ball in this way. I have to chase the ball in this way. Does that mean though you do look back at? Like you said, some of the film is your greatness. You have looked back at some of your effort, or at some of the ways that you've played, and you have had to change maybe some of the habits and characteristics to help you be better.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  So I agree 100%. And I think, and it's funny because it's all player, but I want to be, I'm a mentor, I want to be a coach, I want to be a person who helps young people. And habits are created through practice, which is led by coaching, right? So anytime you see something on tape, and definitely not putting out anybody, but this is why I love my coach Charlie. Charlie Bullen is a fantastic coach. But when you see the level that we play at, it's because of a standard that's set from the top, that's carried out through me, Burns, through the rest of the guys showing. So it's like, for me, I had to realize that no matter what coaching staff is here,

• 43:30Speaker 02

  I have to play at a certain standard, right? And that was the, that was the kind of the epiphany that I had and the understanding I had to come to. Like, if you want to be who you say you are, this is what it's going to take. Regardless of all the moves, regardless of all the whatever, whatever, whatever, hard work and discipline, it's really discipline in your habits are what's going to take you to the next level.

• 43:54Fred Taylor?

  On October the 20th, number 26 will come back home in a division rivalry game. Saquon, how do you expect the fans to receive him? And how will you guys receive him?

• 44:04Speaker 02

  It's going to be here. There's going to be a lot of Philly fans probably, so it might be some fights in the stadium, to be honest. It might be some fights, it might be, you know, big. But 2-6, that's my man. But I got a chip too, I got a chip on my shoulder. You know, I got to get paid too. So when the Eagles come back, it's going to be old school. It's going to be smash mouth football. They're going to have to come meet us up front. And everything else is going to take care of itself.

• 44:29Ryan Clark?

  Right. Did you get beat up practicing against Detroit? Because y'all threw hands.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Not me, not me, not me.

• 44:37Ryan Clark?

  I saw some people get pissed up.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  I know, you ain't see five.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  What they say, the shot that rang around the world? I had a couple punches that rang around the world. Nah, I'm just playing.

• 44:47Ryan Clark?

  I do, my last question, because I know we got a rap.

• 44:50Speaker 02

  I don't condone fighting, man.

• 44:51Ryan Clark?

  I know we got, I do.

• 44:52Speaker 02

  See, but that's, so look.

• 44:54Ryan Clark?

  You play against other teams, is what it is.

• 44:55Speaker 02

  Everybody saying, I want to address that. Why are we fighting? What does fighting do for y'all? What is the fight? You fight for team chemistry.

• 45:03Ryan Clark?

  Yup.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Really.

• 45:04Ryan Clark?

  I agree.

• 45:05Speaker 02

  You're fighting for respect. Now, the stupidest stuff is whatever. You know, we not ripping helmets off. Ain't nobody really trying to hurt nobody. But you're fighting to show your teammates that you gonna fight for them. So when you see a Daniel Jones get in, it does give a little more respect. When you see, you know, your lineman, and that's another part that's funny. When I was a rookie, I was too tired. I'm like, shit, y'all can fight, I can't fight. I can't do it. And you realize like, no, your teammates gonna look at you. You better get in that fight. And I got fans sending me videos of people who wasn't in the fight, like, hold on, you need to check him, he wasn't in it.

• 45:37Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, see, my coach, my coach used to say, boys is holding the lantern.

• 45:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:40Ryan Clark?

  They standing outside to fight like this.

• 45:42Speaker 02

  I, we talked about it on the way over.

• 45:45Ryan Clark?

  One of the cats ran in with his hands like this. I was like, don't be that dude. If you that dude, stand on the side.

• 45:49Speaker 02

  What's on the other side of five when you shooting dice?

• 45:52Ryan Clark?

  I don't know, Fred.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  I know.

• 45:54Ryan Clark?

  I didn't shoot dice.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Nine. Nine, man. Oh, y'all. Nine gonna get to it too. Come on.

• 45:59Ryan Clark?

  When I went to, when I went to private school, by the time I went to private school, we don't shootin' dice, Fred. When he went to, oh, Christian, I don't know what they was doing.

• 46:09Ryan Clark?

  Back to my last question, I know we gotta go, I'm so sorry. One of the best videos.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  My bad, let me not cut you off. You know I had to ask the coaches, where was they at? Where was y'all at when the fights was going on? I was talking about that old fight. My coach was right behind, he said, I was right behind you. He said, dude was throwing punches? He said, they don't know, I was trying to grab you.

• 46:26Ryan Clark?

  No, you got an opportunity. Like, one of the best videos I've seen, man, is you purchasing your mother a home.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:33Ryan Clark?

  And... You said, "We didn't have places to go." That was like one central spot for holiday. What was it like to know that through her sacrifices as well, through your sacrifices, you were able to provide that for someone who sacrificed so much for you?

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Man, it was amazing. But it was definitely more work than I thought it would be. You know, that's the, um... I think that's the young part about it, man. You don't really realize, you know, everything that encompasses the lifestyle that we're providing. So for me, it was definitely a blessing for my mom, and she loved it, and you know, it was a great moment for us and my family. But now, she has more of a burden. Because now she got extra bedrooms, now she got extra space, and now it's like, they're looking at her as if she's in the league. You know, so it's, it's been a constant growth aspect between family. But I, I think it's positive. I think, you know, when you get a certain amount of money,

• 47:33Speaker 02

  you know, any amount, you go from surviving to living. And I think for me and my community, I want to continue to push on, "We know how to survive, let's learn how to live." Because right now, we just surviving to the end of our life, right? We never actually get to live the abundance of, you know, the fruits.

• 47:56Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, always say, man, you don't want to just breathe until death. You want to live. Appreciate you, brother. That was great. That's the way to end it. Thank you, family.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  New York taxes or California taxes?

• 48:07Ryan Clark?

  I know, man. You said you didn't want to stay in L.A. because of taxes.

• 48:10Speaker 02

  Nah, man, you know, that's why I gotta hit that second contract. Some taxes don't matter.

• 48:13Ryan Clark?

  They tax you over this way, too. Chan, don't go pee yet, because I know you're trying to go pee, dog. Take this picture.

• 48:18Speaker 02

  Man, Chan. That baby ass bladder. Oh, man. Get that bladder out. Wait, man, get in the middle, Chan.

• 48:24Ryan Clark?

  I'm not standing next to him. Appreciate you, brother. Been trying to get this done awhile, man. I'm gonna go unsend my DM I sent you like two years ago.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  Nah, yeah, don't, yeah, it's cool.

• 48:57Speaker 07

  Every game day, you show up for your team. Now, it's your time. We go V.

• 49:05Speaker 08

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