Bonus Episode: The Murder Mystery Hinted At in the New Elvis Concert Film

We saw EPiC and it’s GREAT, but why didn’t Elvis perform outside the United States? Could an unsolved murder have been the reason? For more great stories, check out our huge archive of episodes like these: Episode 32 - Johnny Cash https://www.disgracelandpod.com/032/johnny-cash Episode 68 - Gram Parsons https://www.disgracelandpod.com/068/gram-parsons See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:41Jake Brennan?

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• 1:44Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland: The Afterparty.

• 2:11Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the Disgrace Land bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgrace Land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're giving you our thoughts on the new epic Elvis concert film, digging into your thoughts related to this week's new episode, part two on Inexcess, previewing next week's story on Towns Van Zandt. And in the exclusive section, we dive into the murder mystery at the center of Elvis's manager's past. Plus, we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie.

• 2:53Jake Brennan?

  This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it.

• 3:16Jake Brennan?

  All right, welcome into the after-party, guys. I'm feeling pretty good today, and I shouldn't be. I've got a cold. Second day of a pretty crappy thing going around here that I've managed to get, probably from my kids, and knocked me out pretty hard yesterday and last night, woke up feeling like crap, but I don't know, I'm behind the mic and you know what it is, it's a new mic. I got a new microphone. That's what's happening. And I feel like, those of you who are actually, I don't know, podcasters maybe, and you listen to this show, you probably know what I'm getting at here. When you have a new mic, I don't know, it kind of changes everything. It's just, it's changed my body posture. I just feel good. I feel good, I always feel good talking to you guys, but I feel really good right now.

• 3:58Jake Brennan?

  And despite being sick this week, I've been feeling good ever since the weekend, at least sort of, you know, upstairs in my noggin. I saw the Elvis movie over the weekend. I saw it on Saturday night. Epic, Elvis Presley in Concert by Boz Lerman.

• 4:17Jake Brennan?

  I don't know what reviews, if any, that all you guys have seen regarding this movie. But every review that came up in my feed praised the film. And I mean, like, some incredible reviews. I'm not just talking about, like, official reviews. I'm talking about, like, listener, fans of Elvis, fans of music history, music fans, et cetera. Just, like, literally being like, like, people whose opinions I really treasure and value being like, "Uh, I'm not even watching movies anymore." Like, those types of reviews. People are freaking out over this film. And that includes the crew here at Double Elvis. After Matt saw it, he basically demanded that Zeph and I go. So we did, separately.

• 5:00Jake Brennan?

  Zeph finished watching it just as I was sitting down in the theater to watch it. And we were texting each other about it. He was blown away. I was blown away. I took my family on Saturday night to an IMAX. And I knew when I was watching this movie, it was the type of movie where you know when you're watching it that words are not going to be able to do justice to what you're seeing. Like, I knew that in real time. But I'm not gonna try to explain the movie and sell you on the movie. I'm just gonna give you a couple of thoughts on it. Uh, I get a little context and how it kind of relates to what we do here, true crime, uh, in the music history. So, for those who don't know, the new Elvis movie is a concert film. It's by filmmaker, uh, Baz Luhrmann.

• 5:44Jake Brennan?

  And now Baz Luhrmann unearthed a, a trove, apparently, of previously unseen and unheard film and audio footage. And he used it to create this film. Now, he came upon this footage, uh, I believe, I think this is accurate, when he was researching the biopic that he produced and directed on Elvis Presley that came out about three or four years ago, uh, just simply titled Elvis. So, that sort of previously never, never before seen or heard footage is what, is what makes up this film. Now, we've all seen Elvis on stage in Vegas.

• 6:26Jake Brennan?

  It's, you know, oftentimes that portion of his career is a subject of ridicule. And certainly, some of that career, some of the Vegas effort, you know, it's fair to ridicule it. It's, it's not very good. But you really got to think about Elvis in Las Vegas in sort of two time periods. There's, there's the early seventies and then there's the mid to late seventies when things go off the rails. Not all of Elvis in Las Vegas, the residency I'm talking about was, was bad, was cheesy. I already knew that. But still, I kind of write off Elvis Vegas. Anyway, that's not what this is. This is something completely different. This is Elvis Presley on fire, okay?

• 7:10Jake Brennan?

  In Las Vegas, all of the megawatt star power, charisma, talent, stage presence, the passion. Everything, everything that is the best of Elvis that you could imagine, take that and multiply it by 10. And that's the Elvis that is living in this film and living in this film like I've never seen him before, both on and off stage. The offstage scenes, when the king is rehearsing the band, they're getting ready for their first residency. This is some of the most interesting footage of Elvis that I've ever seen. I've seen some of this before, but not as in-depth as this. Watching him be this goofball, you know, you feel like he's being himself in a way that, you know,

• 7:53Jake Brennan?

  he's such a huge star, always kind of guarded with a camera in front of him, but really feels like the guard gets let down here. You feel when you're watching this, like you've been led into some sort of secret club. It's, it's truly revelatory and the film's narrative, okay? To the extent that there is one, it's, it isn't heavy-handed. For the most part, Elvis and his excellent band, guys, James Burton, guitar player James Burton, is just playing out of his mind, out of his mind. So good, so good. We have thought Seth and I are going to talk more about this. Perhaps Matt will chime in as well on the rest of the band later on. But you can just tell, you can, you can just tell as it pertains to the narrative of this film

• 8:37Jake Brennan?

  that that Lerman, Baz Luhrmann, went out of his way to try not to repeat himself as a storyteller. Cause like I said, he just, you know, I think he just finished, he wrapped doing the Elvis biopic. And then kind of this was his next project. So you can understand why he doesn't want to tell the same story twice, even though it's a different style of storytelling. This is a concert film. Elvis was a biopic. That said, all of that said, Colonel Tom Parker, Elvis's manager, is subtly positioned in this concert film as the story's villain. And for those of us who know Elvis's history, the director here, Baz Luhrmann, draws some pretty bold lines for us to read between as it pertains to Colonel Tom Parker. Now, what I'm talking about is this.

• 9:23Jake Brennan?

  At the time, Elvis was one of the biggest stars on the planet when, when this footage for Epic was filmed. That's the name of the movie Epic, Elvis Presley in concert. We're talking 1970 and 1972. Elvis, one of the biggest stars on the planet, and certainly one of the biggest musical attractions. Yet Elvis never performed outside of the United States. This point comes up in the film, Elvis makes it himself. But the question of why he, he never did this, of why he never performed outside the States, it's never really asked, forget about being answered, especially because it's clear that Elvis wanted to perform internationally.

• 10:08Jake Brennan?

  Now, in the way of an answer, all we're given is a long semi slow motion glance at the villainous Colonel Tom Parker, sort of in the context of this question of why hasn't Elvis performed internationally. We're made to suspect that the reason Elvis didn't tour outside of the United States is because of the Colonel. But why?

• 10:33Jake Brennan?

  Why wouldn't the Colonel, whose commission, his pay on Elvis's earnings, the Colonel was getting 50% of Elvis's earnings. Fifty, five zero, not 15, which is typical. It's actually pretty high. 10 is the standard. So why wouldn't Colonel Parker want his star attraction to perform in different markets, untapped markets, and create more revenue? It doesn't make any sense. It's alluded to in this movie, but it's not directly asked. It's definitely not answered.

• 11:16Jake Brennan?

  This, again, this makes no sense. Unless you know a little bit about who Colonel Tom Parker was and what kind of trouble he may have gotten himself into and escaped from allegedly in his home country of the Netherlands before immigrating to the United States. Now, I touch upon this in my book, and there have been other writers who have explored this theory more fully. But the fact that Baz Luhrmann hints at this in his new concert film is super intriguing to me. It makes me think that this Colonel Tom Parker conspiracy has more legs than some may think. Actually, it's less of a conspiracy theory and more of a murder mystery.

• 12:01Jake Brennan?

  Zeth and I are gonna share with you the dark true crime story at the heart of Colonel Tom Parker's past in today's DisgraceLand All-Access Bonus Episode. This story, this mystery, this theory about the Colonel, if it's true, it explains why Elvis, the biggest musical attraction on the planet, never performed outside of the United States. Okay, go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become a DisgraceLand All-Access member today and unlock more exclusive content like this, plus ad-free listening. Speaking of performing outside of the United States, this week's new episode of DisgraceLand is on Inexcess, Part Two in our Inexcess story. One of the reasons I wanted to tell this continuation of the Inexcess saga is because of the dichotomy between the image of Inexcess.

• 12:49Jake Brennan?

  Pretty, pretty boy band, pop, super poppy, you know, dudes like them. But of course, more when I was growing up, more, more girls liked Inexcess. I love Inexcess, but I'm just saying they weren't, it wasn't like Black Sabbath. You get it. So there's the image. And then there's the reality of where they come from, which is in stark contrast to how the band portrayed themselves, how the record label portrayed them, how, how they were promoted. They came from just total Australian violence and mayhem. And that was really interesting to me. We didn't really get into it in part one, and I wanted to get into it in part two. And you can hear all about that in this week's disgracing episode on Inexcess.

• 13:34Jake Brennan?

  Now we asked the question, given that Inexcess is from Australia, you know, Inexcess is a hugely successful band, super influential band. When we think of rock and roll bands that have had the most influence on culture, we think of, of rock and roll bands from the United States and from the UK, from England mainly. And I just, it just occurred to me like, wow, all these bands from Australia, New Zealand, other parts of the world. So we asked this question on the heels of the Inexcess episode. Which international band has had the most influence culturally? Okay. Is it Inexcess? Is it somebody else? Is it, is it an Irish band? Is it a, is it a band, is it a French artist?

• 14:19Jake Brennan?

  Who is it? We're going to unpack that, that question. We're going to get to your answers, your voicemails and texts and the later part of this episode. But first, before we do that, I want to tell you about the, what we, what we got cooking here in the coming days, right after this after party, we've got a rewind episode on Public Enemy and then next week, new episode, new story on Towns Van Zandt. When you're listening to the Towns Van Zandt episode, you know, Towns Van Zandt was one of the most authentic songwriters to ever live. Okay. So be thinking about which musical artist gave up the most for their art. Towns Van Zandt lived just with so much authenticity. He personified the characters in his songs.

• 15:03Jake Brennan?

  He sang of broken men. He lived a broken life and he died broke and broken and busted. He wrote beautiful songs. My point is at what cost? So when you're listening to the Townes Van Zandt episode, be thinking about which musical artist gave up the most for their art. Okay. Was it Townes Van Zandt or was it somebody else? Let me know 617-906-6638 voicemail and text. Get at me. You might hear your answer on next week's after party. We'll be back right after this with your voicemails and texts and emails from last week's question of the week. See you in a bit.

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• 16:27Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

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• 17:34Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys, we are back. Thanks for hanging with us on today's after-party. 617-906-6638. Voicemail and texts. You can hit me up about anything related to music, music history, true crime, any of the recommendations we talk about here, our questions of the week, whatever you want to talk about. Let's check out, appears to be from a new caller. This is John in the 203.

• 17:56Speaker 05

  Hey, this is John from the 203. I would love to have an episode on Willie DeVille from Mink DeVille. I know very little about him, except that he had a drug problem. What a voice. Thanks.

• 18:14Jake Brennan?

  John, how correct you are, my friend. Willie DeVille from Mink DeVille. Just, I know very little about him as well, but I love him. Cadillac Walk, baby. I kind of used that song Cadillac Walk as like a low-key theme in our Elvis Presley, Johnny Ace story that we did. I don't know a lot about Willie DeVille either, and I like it that way. I'm gonna put him on the list, though, and I'm gonna look into it, because there's got to be something there, criminal, something there, a way into Willie DeVille's story. And as much as I love his music, I've actually used, I use Willie DeVille's music as my intro music when I brought Disgrace into the stage a bunch of years ago. That's how badass I think Willie DeVille is. And yeah, I'm putting him on the list.

• 18:59Jake Brennan?

  I'm gonna look into it. Thanks, John. All right, let's check out this voicemail from the 303.

• 19:05Speaker 05

  Hi, my name is Jay Richardson. I'm from the Denver area, 303. And I was listening how you were talking about soundtracks, and I had to call in and tell you about my favorite soundtrack from the 80s. It's from "To Live and Die in L.A." by Wang Chung.

• 19:24Speaker 05

  I'm such a fan of the soundtrack of the movie that I actually had to go and track down the locations, especially there's a big scene in the San Pedro Bridge and there were some apartments there and kind of in a good way, the apartments were turned down and turned into a baseball, a softball field. And so I got to go stand there and get a big picture with that bridge in the background and also track down a couple of locations, Sixth Street Bridge in LA. And I did this about, I don't know, five years ago. And it was just a great time. My family was really bored and tired of looking at bridges and location sets. But I thought I had a great time and just a huge fan of the movie. Hope

• 20:08Speaker 05

  you hear this and maybe do an episode about it.

• 20:11Jake Brennan?

  Jay from the 303, thanks for the call, man. To Live and Die in L.A., that's Willem Dafoe, right? And that's the movie that looks incredible, like in a very kind of neon 80s way. I think, I think I saw this movie, uh, kind of had a half on in the background, but didn't really get a chance to dig into it. So I can't speak to the soundtrack, but now I am super intrigued. And for you disco listeners, you disgraced listeners out there, the discos who are hearing this and going, what do you mean do an episode on this? What the heck is Jay talking about? Jay's referencing our new show, This Film Should Be Played

• 20:54Jake Brennan?

  Loud. He's not referencing Disgrace Land. This Film Should Be Played Loud is an all-access-only exclusive video show, which you can check out by becoming a Patreon member. And Jay, maybe we will get into To Live and Die in L.A. I have to re-watch it. I'm looking forward to doing so. Thank you for prompting me. 303 texts in, hey, I know you're a Stones guy, but the Beatles are going to be known like Beethoven centuries from now. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know that in centuries, centuries from now, we'll be looking at, at music through the same lens that we now look back centuries to view people like Beethoven. I don't know. I feel like...

• 21:37Jake Brennan?

  I have no idea. I just know it's going to be different. I don't know how we're going to look at things, but I know it's going to be different. We were talking about bourbon last week. 803 writes in, "Hey Bourbon, if you haven't already, give Statesman by Old Forrester a try, as well as Toasted by Penelope. Thank you for your excellent recommendations here." I haven't tried either of these. I've seen Old Forrester around before. I always think of Robert, Robert Forrester, is that his name? The guy from Jackie Brown? I will check that out. Thank you. 416 writes in, "Hey, I listened to the Bob Marley episode again. If you love the music and the myth, I highly recommend going to Montego Bay and booking a tour with a rasta guide to take you to the Marley Estate in the jungled mountains

• 22:18Jake Brennan?

  of St. Anne. It's a two-hour trip and you see the real Jamaica. The estate was his mausoleum, the museum and the house and his bedroom where he wrote music. It is an epic experience. It's a ganja tour and they even make ganja tea. All the guides are rasta. When you're back at the resort at Montego Bay, do what I did and book a private visit to Johnny Cash's private estate on Cinnamon Hill. That's right, Johnny and June lived there. The Cash Museum in Nashville is great, but the estate is truly remarkable. Nothing is off limits. His clothes, his shoes, all the art and memorabilia, and all of the rooms are open. Nothing is off limits. The whole ground smells wonderful because the scent of all spices released every

• 23:00Jake Brennan?

  time you crush one of the ubiquitous curled brown leaves from the trees that carpet the yard. And if you like music history, Jamaica is a must-go. Also, they have great food. Everything is spotlessly clean and people are wonderful. Nothing like getting your first yaman when you thank a Jamaican for their hospitality. Rock-a-roller." And that's from the 416. 416, thank you. This sounds amazing. I've never been to Jamaica and this sounds like a reason to go. It really does. I didn't know this was possible, especially the Johnny Cash part. We covered the Johnny Cash place in Cinnamon Hill in our Johnny Cash episode and the home invasion that happened there and how Johnny wiggled his way out of that. And of course, as you mentioned in the Bob Marley episode, we talk about his place and what went down there.

• 23:45Jake Brennan?

  Had no idea you could visit either of these spaces. This is incredible. Can you go to Keith Richards' place as well? That's the question. 416. Appreciate you. Great message. 276 writes in, "Hey Eric from the 276, there's a lot of meat on the bone on the subject of Arthur Lee in Love and the musical connections of Bobby Bosselé. I listened to Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon and for anyone on the conspiracy, it's a perfect mortar for the whole of disgraceland." We were just talking about, as Eric mentions here later in his text, weird scenes from the Canyon in last week's exclusive section of the after-party. I knew of the Manson family member Bobby Bosselé's

• 24:26Jake Brennan?

  connection to Arthur Lee in Love. I did not know that they turned up in this book. More reason to read this book. Thank you. Appreciate the text. Now to our question of the week on which artists outside of America and England were most influential culturally. Dave writes in from the 248, "In terms of artists from outside the US and the British Isles who have influenced modern music the most, there's an obvious answer, and I don't think anyone else is even close. It's gotta be Kraftwerk. As far as influence on the modern music world, I think possibly only The Beatles are more of a pervasive influence." This is a really good take. I don't

• 25:07Jake Brennan?

  know enough about Kraftwerk to speak to this take, except the fact Kraftwerk obviously started, I think in like 1969 or something like that, 1971, first electronic music. And yeah, the influence is pretty incredible, although I don't, I don't think they would be cited by many for that influence. Great, great answer 248. Appreciate you. 540 writes in, "Hey, got the package yesterday. Amazing. You rock. The autograph was a nice touch. Thank you so much." What is 540 talking about? 540 is talking about the t-shirt.

• 25:43Jake Brennan?

  And a little note that I sent the 540, because the 540 was nice enough to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. I can't remember where exactly. Guys, I get asked all the time, how can we support you? How can we support the show? It's a very easy way. Just leave a review. Oftentimes, if you leave a review, you will hear your review read back to you here in the after party. And if you do, that is a signal to text me 617-906-6638. And let me know that you heard your review. Site your handle. So I can make sure you're telling me the truth. And then I will send you some merch. I don't know what it'll be. Not everybody gets t-shirts. Some people get t-shirts. It's kind of whatever I got lying around in the garage. You know what I'm talking

• 26:24Jake Brennan?

  about? Ailey Beany 88 writes in on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I originally clicked on this podcast because of the zombie Elvis icon. I listened to one episode and I was hooked. I even listened to artists I know nothing about. Great storyteller. Ailey Beany, thank you. Welcome. Welcome to the club. You are now a disco. If you're listening to this, 617-906-6638. Hit me up and I will hit you with some merch. All right, guys, we'll be back right after this. Got a TV recommendation for you. Also gonna, gonna dig into some of your emails. And get back into the swing right after this.

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• 27:33Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

• 28:04Speaker 04

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• 28:41Jake Brennan?

  All right, we haven't done recommendations in a while, so we're gonna do one right now. I talked about this in one of the exclusive sections of the after-party recently. So if you've heard this already, forgive me, but I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tell everybody else. For reasons that I can't quite articulate, I, like much of America, am currently obsessed with, well, it's a soap opera, really. It's Love Story, the JFK Junior, Carolyn Bissett story, produced by Ryan Murphy. I like Ryan Murphy. I'm not ashamed to admit it. I do. He just, he does things differently. He does them well.

• 29:24Jake Brennan?

  Yeah, they're sensational at times, sentimental, overly dramatic, sure, all those things. But all those things at the highest possible level. Now, I started watching this show about a week and a half ago. And I started watching it, it had nothing to do with the fact, I swear to God, it had nothing to do with the fact that FX bought AdSpace to promote the series. I just started watching it. I really don't know why I started watching. I mean, the cover, the thumbnail, it just, it does not, it's not for me. It's clearly not built for me. But it has sucked me in. I like the show more than my wife likes this show. What's that tell you?

• 30:07Jake Brennan?

  I talked about this in the exclusive section. I think the reason I'm so drawn into this show is the music. The, the score is fantastic. It's incredible. It really is great. I, I, I made a comparison to the True Romance score. It doesn't sound like that, but it's utilized in the same way. It's done really well. And the time period is just incredible. It's the 1990s. It's the early to mid and then I, it's the whole, it's the whole of the decade, pretty much from 92 to 99 in Manhattan. A period in time in history when I was in Manhattan, a ton for the first time, for my first time as a, as a young man.

• 30:49Jake Brennan?

  And um, yikes, it just nails it. And the nostalgia vibes are intense. Score is great. Soundtrack is great as well. Lo and behold, I didn't know this until about three days ago. I'm actually good friends with the music supervisor. I didn't know my friend Jen had done the music supervision for this series until I'd watched five episodes of it. We talked about that. I, I blew all the smoke as was necessary because she did a great job. Anyhow, fan of the Kennedys, not a fan of the Kennedys, just fan of American history, fan of, fan of Manhattan in the 90s, fan of the 90s. Any of these things, fan of sensational storytelling done at the highest level, fans of Ryan Murphy, haters of Ryan Murphy.

• 31:33Jake Brennan?

  Check out Love Story on FX. I think you're gonna dig it. And if you don't, I get it. Hit me up and tell me, tell me what you think. 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. As it pertains to the, uh, you know, scoring and music supervision and soundtrack conversation that we've been having because of our new podcast, this film should be played loud. I feel like, uh, given how this, the music in this show is moving me, I have to recommend it. So there you go. Now, 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. Not the only way to get in touch with me. You can DM me at disgracely on pod and you can send me an email. But if you want to hit me up on X, on Instagram, on Tik Tok, on Facebook, you know, I just, just heads up.

• 32:12Jake Brennan?

  I, you know, I, uh, I, I'm probably on Instagram more than I am any other social platform these days, but.

• 32:22Jake Brennan?

  I kind of go through phases where, okay, I'm on Instagram this week, I'm on X next week, I'm on Facebook for a week this year, whatever it is, I should do it more balanced, I can't, I just cannot. It's too much. It's too much. I have one set of eyes. So if I don't get back to you, don't hate me, I will eventually, I try to anyways. On Instagram, Buck Blakeney writes in, "Hey, hate Mapplethorpe." Buck is referring, referencing a photo I posted in my stories, Just Kids. I read Just Kids yesterday, the Patti Smith book about her time coming up in Manhattan in the late 60s, early 70s, and her friendship and her romance as well with Robert Mapplethorpe,

• 33:06Jake Brennan?

  who went on, or Mapplethorpe, I'm hearing it pronounced like that now, Mapplethorpe? That sounds a little weird to me. I've always pronounced it as Mapplethorpe and heard it that way. Anyhow, about her time in New York, Patti Smith, because we're doing a Patti Smith episode. Of course, when she's involved in Friends and starts her friendship with Mapplethorpe, this is before she's famous, and it's way before he's famous as well, she actually gets famous before him. It's a fantastic book, and I would say to Buck or anyone else, if you're not a fan of Mapplethorpe, and I have a lot of problems with Mapplethorpe, I really do, but as an artist, as an actual artist, the guy did something that nobody had ever done before with photography, and despite what you think of the subject matter, which can be challenging, it was even challenging

• 33:51Jake Brennan?

  for Patti Smith, who I'm sure is thought of by many to be one of the most open-minded, free-thinking artists in the history of art, she still had a lot of problems with Mapplethorpe's output, and for good reason. It's very challenging stuff. Regardless if you're a fan or not, I'm not even a big, I'm not a big Mapplethorpe fan. This book is incredible. It's great. I read it, I read it in one day. I sat down yesterday. I got up early, I wasn't feeling well, I woke up, and I just cracked the book, and I just, I was done by like...

• 34:24Jake Brennan?

  I don't know, 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock, something like that, maybe earlier. I haven't done that in a while. I love when that happens. We can just tear through something. Anyhow, am I recommending Just Kids? I guess I am. That's nothing novel. It was like a National Book Award winner. It's a very popular book, and it will serve as one of the sources for the Patti Smith story. It's gonna be a very true crimey story that's gonna be coming up in a couple of weeks. Can't wait for you to hear that. William Strobel on email writes to us, "Hey, I immediately went to Germany when you posed the question about influential bands outside the USA and Great Britain. I went to Kraftwerk." Another Kraftwerk. I love this. "It's mind blowing to think that 70s experimental German electronica

• 35:06Jake Brennan?

  is important for the foundation of early rap and hip hop. Afrika Bambaata, soul sonic force, and others had the genius to tap into such an unlikely musical vein. They were the complete game changers and became part of the DNA of a new culture. Keep up the great work, rock and roll, from the 215." 215, William, thank you so much, man. This is awesome. I love this answer. It was unexpected, and that's, that's why I love it. Also, Afrika Bambaata is an episode there. Some dark shit there, I believe. Hold on, I'm gonna write that down.

• 35:40Jake Brennan?

  Joshua Blevins sends me a link here, Smiley Face Killers music link. In this interview, starting sometime after the 25 minute mark, he mentions the Smiley Face Killer is an acid house symbol and ties to the 70s music industry. Have you heard this? And please look into it. I have not heard of this, and I know, I have no idea what you're talking about, but I am super intrigued. Smiley Face Killers. Writing this one down, too.

• 36:10Jake Brennan?

  If anyone knows anything about this Smiley Face Killer, killers.

• 36:16Jake Brennan?

  Crime wants to give me a little more context. Hit me up disgraceland@disgracelandpod 617-906-6638. Email [email protected]. Now, you heard me talking about it earlier. This film should be played loud. Our new episode is available for you to watch. What are you waiting for? Watch. Go ahead. Watch. Watch it. It's on Boogie Nights. It's on the music of Boogie Nights, I should say. You are not going to be disappointed. We played a clip from it in last week's episode of the after-party. We dropped our first episode of this film should be played loud in the feed. You have no excuse, guys. You know what this, what this is. People are digging it. Go to disgracelandpod.com to become an all-access member. Sign up. You'll receive awesome exclusive

• 36:59Jake Brennan?

  content, like our new podcast, and of course, ad-free listening. And you can become a member for, you can literally become a free member if you want, if that's your thing. But you can become a member for as little as a dollar. All right. We have other levels as well that are going to unlock different types of content and different types of value for you. disgracelandpod.com Get all the info you need. All right, listen. Now it's time for the sports rant. Okay, the 60-second sports rant in under 30 seconds, sponsored by our friends at Five Hour Energy and their fruity rainbow flavor. Treat your taste buds to an explosion of fruity candy flavor with a tasty caffeine kick. Get candy flavored chaos with fruity rainbow Five Hour Energy shots online

• 37:40Jake Brennan?

  at www.fivehourenergy.com or Amazon. Listen, guys. Yeah, I don't have a lot to rant about right now. Someone, someone emailed me and said, I don't think you understand the concept of a long-suffering sports fan being from New England. And you know, you're right. You're right. I was being a little facetious. I was being a little bit of a smart guy. You know, I guess what my gripe is right now is we're in the dead zone. I can't get into basketball until the playoffs. You know this. I've talked about this before. I'm a fly-by-night Celtics fan. The Bruins this year, I know they're not ultimately going anywhere despite flashes of playing well. They're hard to get into. You know my reasons. For for being dismayed with the Boston Red Sox and we are a long way from from football

• 38:24Jake Brennan?

  season. So I mean, I'm like, what am I do? What am I gonna do? I watched Slapshot again the other night, which I typically do around this time of year because it's probably the best sports film of all time. But I have to say, this is gonna be less of a rant and more of a rave. I went on to Netflix and I broke down and I started watching The Gambler and His Cowboys, America's Team, The Gambler and His Cowboys, story of Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys from the 90s. And it's really a history of the Jerry Jones era of the Cowboys, just from when he bought the team until now, basically. Well, I haven't finished it, but I gotta say, this is the point. This is excellent. This is excellent storytelling. I love the Cowboys. I'm happy they're not my team. But as a casual fan, Cowboys, you gotta give it to them. They're one of the most entertaining franchises in

• 39:08Jake Brennan?

  all of sports, both presently and historically. So, less of a rant this week, more of a sports rave. Check out America's Team, The Gambler and His Cowboys, if you haven't already. I think you're gonna dig it if you're looking for some sports vibes right now in this dead zone. All right, Matt, did I get that in under 30 seconds? I don't believe I did. Anyways, that was the sports rant disguised as a sports rave sponsored by Five Hour Energy's fruity rainbow flavor. Treat yourself to a candy-like flavor explosion and satisfy your sweet tooth with the zero sugar treat. Once again, you can get in on the candy flavored chaos online at www.fivehourenergy.com or Amazon. Today, I will be back in a flash.

• 40:01Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Thank you for hanging out with me in this after party. We mentioned Bob Marley, of course, we had the rewind last week. We also talked about Johnny Cash, Keith Richards, Elvis. I mentioned James Burton because of Elvis Presley, but James Burton also played with Grant Parsons. We have a great Grant Parsons episode. Got episodes on all these artists we mentioned. Matt's gonna have the information on how you can find them in the archive in the show notes section of this here bonus episode. All right, let's recap, shall we? This week, our new episode, part two of the Inexcess story, our rewind episode, coming up right after this, is on Public Enemy. Next week, we are exploring the lifetimes and music of Townes Van Zant. As always, Zeth Lund is giving you those Hollywood and true crime vibes in Hollywoodland.

• 40:45Jake Brennan?

  So make sure you're subscribed to the Hollywoodland Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. This film should be played loud, our new episode, our video podcast on Boogie Nights. That's available right now. You're gonna be a Patreon member to cop that. Go to disgracypod.com to sign up, 617-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting, keep hitting me up with your answers to this week's question of the week, or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget, this goes, this isn't just content, it's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do, and well, that's a disgrace.

• 41:24Jake Brennan?

  On January 21st, 1997, the Colonel, Tom Parker, passed away, and here's what America was listening to on that day. Number one, Unbreak My Heart, Toni Braxton. Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 13. Number two, Don't Let Go, Love and Vogue. Last week, three, peak position, two, weeks on chart, 11. Number three, I Believe I Can Fly, from Space Jam, R. Kelly. Last week, two, peak position, two, weeks on chart, six.

• 42:06Jake Brennan?

  Number four, Nobody, Keith Sweat, featuring Athena Cage. Last week, four, peak position, three, weeks on chart, 16. Number five, I Believe I Can Fly, featuring

• 42:29Jake Brennan?

  Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it. Hey guys, time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyages. Back by popular demand, this five-night, adults-only escape sets sail March 20th, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year, along with Zeph, and he and I will be taping a live version of DisgraceLand, along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners Wisecrack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings,

• 43:10Jake Brennan?

  behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage. Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/truecrime to secure your spot. I like a story with a twist as much as any one, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

• 43:55Speaker 06

  She's been thinking about this sleepover all week, but I think about her food allergies all the time. Fortunately, her doctor prescribed Zolair, omalizumab. It's proven to significantly reduce allergic reactions if a food allergy accident happens.

• 44:08Jake Brennan?

  Zolair 150mg is a prescription medication used to treat food allergy in people one year of age and older to reduce allergic reactions due to accidental exposure to one or more foods. While taking Zolair, you should continue to avoid all foods to which you are allergic. Don't use if you are allergic to Zolair. Zolair may cause a severe, life-threatening allergic reaction called anaphylaxis. Tell your doctor if you ever had anaphylaxis. Get help right away if you have trouble breathing or if you have swelling of your throat or tongue. Zolair should not be used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. Zolair is for maintenance use to reduce allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, while avoiding food allergens. Serious side effects such as cancer, fever, muscle aches and rash, parasitic infection, or heart and circulation problems have been reported. Please see zolair.com for full prescribing information. Ask an allergist

• 44:50Jake Brennan?

  about Zolair. This is an advertisement for Zolair, paid for by Genentech and Novartis.