Kylie & Jen Hamilton’s NSFW Guide to Labor, Cheating Spouses & Tight End 101 w/ Cyrus Veyssi | 84

Kylie’s back for one of the funniest episodes of Not Gonna Lie ever brought to you by Invisalign! She’s joined in person by one of NGL’s most requested guests: labor & delivery nurse, content creator, and bestselling author, Jen Hamilton (30:52)! Kylie and Jen give The Real Ones the brutally honest and hilarious truth about giving birth from how nurses feel about poop on the table (52:20), to labor playlists (39:50), to the “needs” of support people (43:20) and proper care for tears. Jen also details what happened with her marriage this past summer, sharing how she found out about her husband’s double life (1:09:10) and what she’s doing now to help other women who are going through tough transitions or pursuing divorce in a state that makes it far too challenging (1:17:19). Before Jen joins Kylie in NGL’s Philly studio, somehow the episode gets even better because TikTok icon, Broadway star and NFL takes “specialist” Cyrus Veyssi joins the show (12:02) following their recent Kylie shout out that went viral. Kylie and Cyrus get to meet for the first time and fangirl over each other before talking all things football. Cyrus has lots of questions for Kylie about NFL team names and who her husband and brother-in-law are (14:24)! Kylie also puts our new NFL Correspondent to the test by asking them to explain certain football rules to the best of their ability (20:18). Kylie also reacts to the viral “Were You In The Delivery Room When I Born” trend (3:38) and shares some of the craziest, most destructive things her kids have done around the house (6:50). You can find even more clips from Kylie’s longer conversations with Jen & Cyrus on our YouTube channel on More Sh*t Monday. . Purchase NGL Merch: https://www.nglkylie.com Support the show: Invisalign: Don’t wait — invest in YOU and find a local Invisalign doctor today! https://www.invisalign.com/find-a-doctor?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=mom_consideration-docloc_national__oct2026&utm_content=kylie_kelce ​ Visa: This episode is presented by Visa. Paying with Visa. That’s a Pro Move. Allstate: If it’s important to you, it’s important to Allstate. Switch to Allstate and you could save hundreds on home insurance today. NOT AVAILABLE IN EVERY STATE. Potential savings vary. Subject to terms and qualifications. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates: Northbrook, Illinois. Pull Ups: Buy new Pull-Ups with Learning Layer now, designed to help kids learn wet from dry! https://www.pullups.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:19Kylie Kelce?

  If you have a bowel movement while pushing, are they going to give you a second to wipe clean?

• 0:25Speaker 02

  My favorite thing to do is to be a poop ninja. And it's the one thing I will lie about. If you say, am I pooping? I'll say, I am pooping.

• 0:34Kylie Kelce?

  What makes for the best tight end? Squats and a good.

• 0:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, squats and a good trainer.

• 0:39Kylie Kelce?

  Now, do you know who the best tight end is in football?

• 0:42Speaker 03

  Not your, not your.

• 0:44Kylie Kelce?

  It's not my husband. He was an offensive lineman.

• 0:46Speaker 03

  It's your brother-in-law?

• 0:48Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, it is.

• 0:49Speaker 03

  Travis.

• 0:50Speaker 02

  I found out about some nefarious things that the man was doing behind my back.

• 0:56Kylie Kelce?

  How'd you find out?

• 0:57Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna be mad that you try to bite me.

• 0:59Kylie Kelce?

  If you've been bitten.

• 1:01Speaker 02

  You know, they try sometimes. Just you're, you're just in this feral state.

• 1:05Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, four kids sounds like a great idea. Until this time of year comes around. A week and a half ago, someone got a stuffy nose and a raspy voice. And now, like dominoes, one after the other. Ahem, they got me too. It's going great. Sometimes you just gotta rally. Let's get this podcast started.

• 1:39Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome back to a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original, brought to you by Invisalign. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. In need of new Eagles superstitions to try because what I'm doing clearly isn't cutting it. Maybe we'll get a new spoon. The best fall treat is 100% definitely without a doubt, a caramel apple. Now, if you ask me in November, I'm gonna say cold pumpkin pie in the morning with your coffee. Cold. And mom of four, with three more Halloween costumes to figure out, there is a chance that Finn ends up being what she would refer to as a dog.

• 2:22Kylie Kelce?

  Because I have a puppy dog costume that Wyatt has worn. I think Benny has worn. But maybe I'm wrong. But I feel like Finn, it's, I mean, even this morning, she went up to the sliding door and was smacking the door going, dog, dog. Because the dogs were outside standing on the other side of the glass. So I think that that feels good. Am I going to participate in dressing up? Probably not. I do kinda wanna get one of those cute little headbands that has little witch's hat on it. Cause like, my kids already think I'm a witch. Coming up on today's episode, we have a brand new NFL correspondent stopping by to tell us everything we could possibly need to know about football.

• 3:06Kylie Kelce?

  And absolutely nails it. Flawless beats, just stunning. And Broadway. That's right. From a TikTok shout out to the podcast, it's Seeru's Facey. I can't wait for you guys to see that. After that, I'm going to be joined by one of the most requested NGL guests of all time. She's the hilarious and brilliant labor and delivery nurse, angels on earth, you already know that, bestselling author and content creator, Jen Hamilton. I'm so excited. And most importantly, we talked her into coming to Philadelphia. But first, let's get right into it and start things off with doom scroll.

• 3:50Kylie Kelce?

  Doom scroll of the week is brought to you today by Invisalign. First up, a new prank trend just dropped where people are calling their moms to ask if they were in the delivery room when they were born. Queen Emma, the clip, please.

• 4:03Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 4:03Speaker 05

  Hello.

• 4:05Speaker 04

  Hi.

• 4:05Speaker 05

  What are you doing?

• 4:07Speaker 04

  I'm in my house.

• 4:09Speaker 05

  Um, I need your help quickly. So I'm filling out a form for uni, but like it's for my emergency contacts, but it's a question for you. Um, it wants to know if you were in the delivery room, um, the day I was born.

• 4:28Speaker 04

  What?

• 4:31Speaker 05

  Were you in the delivery room the day I was born?

• 4:35Speaker 04

  No, I wasn't.

• 4:38Speaker 05

  So do I put no?

• 4:40Speaker 04

  Was I in the delivery room the day you were born?

• 4:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  What, that is the most stupidest fucking question I've ever heard. Did I just fucking bend over in the delivery room? You know, doors? So my feet were out, out and my ass was in? And I just fucking gave birth, like taking a shit or something? Like what, what, what kind of question is that?

• 5:14Kylie Kelce?

  Oh God, shit. Oh my God. Okay. Oh God. Okay, her response to this was perfect. The fact that her initial answer was no, insane, and I love it. I love every second of this. Queen Emma wants to know if I could see my daughters pulling this prank on me. I think my daughters are going to have a great time pulling pranks on me because I'm not opposed to it. You wanna test out your humor? You wanna test run it on me? You wanna, you wanna see what works, what lands and what doesn't? A thousand percent, bring it.

• 5:59Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, the, you better, you better be careful what you're gonna get back. Maybe we hit him with a, no, you're adopted. You know? And they're gonna be like, but I, but I'm dad's twin. So, explain that. Let's flip the script here. Would I do this to Lil' Leece? No, I would not. No, I wouldn't. You wanna know why? That woman's been through enough. She has, she has been through enough. First of all, she had to raise me. Poor thing. And I wasn't even that difficult. You know what was difficult?

• 6:39Kylie Kelce?

  Carrying around a 12-pound, one-ounce baby at five foot two, a whopping five foot two. She couldn't touch her belly button. How many times do I have to say it? People thought she was having twins and she couldn't touch her belly button. We're gonna leave that woman alone. And lastly, this mom just wanted to take a simple shower. And this is what she gets. Queen Emma, the clip, please.

• 7:04Speaker 06

  I get out of the shower and my daughter, Malia. I said, oh, what kind of paper have you got there, Malia?

• 7:13Kylie Kelce?

  Scissors. There are scissors and strips of paper all over the floor. Oh no. What kind of paper is it?

• 7:21Speaker 06

  It's definitely not fucking paper.

• 7:22Kylie Kelce?

  I'm so sorry. Ak, excuse me? What?

• 7:27Speaker 06

  Love them.

• 7:28Kylie Kelce?

  For audio listeners and, um, our real ones that are checking in on our video platforms, these are slatted shades, it seems. Like those shades that you sort of like, you do the thing to close them up and they just sort of like, like there's, I can hear it distinctly in my ears, the noise that these shades made. This little girl got out of bed, got herself a pair of scissors and cut them, hmm? About a third of the way up. I have approached instances where our home has been permanently impacted.

• 8:10Kylie Kelce?

  I do my best not to freak out. A good example is the one time that I believe it was Wyatt was in our kitchen quietly playing under, there's this little jet out where we have three stools. It's like a little breakfast bar. And she was quietly playing underneath and oftentimes the girls will do like shop underneath and ice cream store and restaurant and that's their little storefront. And you just have to scoot the stools and you know it's happening because you're, and the stools are moving in the kitchen.

• 8:51Kylie Kelce?

  She had taken a Sharpie and drawn, when I tell you, all over the bottom of the cabinet. Not the bottom of the, not the top, not the bottom of the counter, the bottom of the cabinet. So if you sat down in the kitchen on the little seat that was in there, it was like you were, I don't know, at a, at an, an art museum. Some other instances of the children wrecking things permanently. Oh.

• 9:33Kylie Kelce?

  One of our children snapped the end off of our dining room table. Yeah. Oh, we've busted lamps because I told them not to, like you can't hang on a lamp. Trying to think of what the most, oh, oh my God. Let me tell you. Oh God, oh my God, oh my God. I feel like I repressed this so that, do you see the, the react? I'm having a physical reaction. You know who hates to see my kids coming? A fucking screen door. Oh my God. Oh my God. We were getting a door replaced. It is one of our most frequently accessed doors in our house. The girls use it to go in and out. The dogs use it to go in and out.

• 10:14Kylie Kelce?

  It is a door that we were like, this is a great investment to switch out this door. So of course, the door is a sliding door. It comes with this beautiful new screen door. I'm so excited because it's in the kitchen and I'm gonna get a cross breeze and fresh air and it's amazing.

• 10:35Kylie Kelce?

  The day before, two days before this door is in, or two days after this door is installed, the girls were painting these little clay unicorns. The next morning, they picked them up to play with them, which I explained is not the purpose of art. And as I am making breakfast, one of them, who will not be named, puts the unicorn horn into the screen door and drags it down like a fucking box cutter. I mean, that shit sliced like butter.

• 11:20Kylie Kelce?

  And naturally, our Irish wolfhound thought, a dog door. So then our screen door that was sliced about, I don't know, two feet from a unicorn horn, just a clean split, I still could have used it, I still could have used it, I could have patched that sucker, I could have. But when a wolfhound shoves their head through it and then realizes that if they just get a foot in, that maybe it'll open more, and then they're right, our three day old screen door was no longer viable.

• 12:03Kylie Kelce?

  Screen doors are now, I believe it is 0 for 3 against the Kelsey girls. All right, that's it for Doom Scroll, brought to you by Invisalign. Next up, it's happening. Oh my God, I'm so excited for this, but you guys don't even know we already started because we couldn't help ourselves. The real ones will remember, I recently got possibly the best shout out ever from a very funny TikTok creator. They somehow knew who I was, but not my husband or my brother in law.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  No. No shade, no shade. Generally, I am, I am, it's like the blind leading the blind right now for me, and I'm learning and I'm committed, but I have so many questions.

• 12:43Kylie Kelce?

  Please welcome our new NFL correspondent, Seeru Spacey.

• 12:47Speaker 03

  Hi, everyone, I'm so excited to be here.

• 12:51Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to have you. Our NGL NFL correspondent segment is brought to you today by Visa, the most trusted way to pay for football fans everywhere.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  Guys, I wore, I wore this.

• 13:03Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, you did, sacrilegious, but I like it.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Which I didn't know that.

• 13:08Kylie Kelce?

  I know, but we can agree.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  But I don't even know if I agree.

• 13:13Kylie Kelce?

  What can we agree on?

• 13:14Speaker 03

  We don't like.

• 13:16Kylie Kelce?

  We don't like.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  The Cowboys.

• 13:18Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, we don't.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  They're so, oh, those, those Cowboys ride off into, off a cliff.

• 13:23Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  Which, which country, which city are they?

• 13:26Kylie Kelce?

  Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  Oh, well, that makes sense. That makes sense. Sometimes it's like the, the like Minneapolis, like, ice cream cup, like I, that, the, the, the Dallas, wait, does that, do they have two teams?

• 13:42Kylie Kelce?

  No, you're thinking of the Houston Texans, two teams in Texas.

• 13:46Speaker 03

  They're called the Houston Texans? Sorry, was their copywriter just lazy that day?

• 13:51Kylie Kelce?

  Correct. I mean, to be fair, the Cowboys are labeled America's team. That was literally a marketing, it was a marketing effort that they put out.

• 14:02Speaker 03

  Yuck.

• 14:03Kylie Kelce?

  Right?

• 14:04Speaker 03

  Okay, so we're on the same page there.

• 14:08Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. For those of you who are, are audio listeners, Seeru is wearing a Giants shirt.

• 14:15Speaker 03

  I'm wearing a Giants, this is also.

• 14:17Kylie Kelce?

  From your boyfriend.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  Smells like boy, yeah, no, not like, like, I think he's worn this quite a bit every Sunday. It's, we have, so we've got the Patriots on my brother's side, we've got the Giants, and now my favorite team, the Eagles. Philadelphia Eagles, don't tell Michael.

• 14:36Kylie Kelce?

  No, we're not going to tell him until you show up.

• 14:38Speaker 03

  Is it because the players don't like each other? Like, what's the T?

• 14:44Kylie Kelce?

  We are in the same division, so we are in the NFC East, and so that is comprised of four teams. That is the Philadelphia Eagles, the Giants, the Cowboys, and the commanders, the Washington commanders.

• 14:59Speaker 03

  So it's like the Ivy League for football?

• 15:01Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, and because we all play each other twice a year, home and away, it makes it for significantly more concentrated competition.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  So I would not go to match, a game with this on in Philly?

• 15:22Kylie Kelce?

  That is correct.

• 15:23Speaker 03

  Got it. It would be a diva down situation.

• 15:28Kylie Kelce?

  Very much so.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  Okay, got it, got it, I'm aligned, okay.

• 15:31Kylie Kelce?

  That's the whole, remember when I said, if you come to Philly and you don't think that you felt welcome, that it's because you were undeserving of our kindness?

• 15:40Speaker 03

  You were wearing a Ralph Lauren Giants vintage sweater.

• 15:43Kylie Kelce?

  Undeserving of our kindness.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Oh, interesting, okay, and vice versa?

• 15:46Kylie Kelce?

  Correct, absolutely.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Totally, but then why would you want to go to Jersey anyway, you know?

• 15:52Kylie Kelce?

  You got it.

• 15:53Speaker 03

  I'm kidding, love Jersey. Is MetLife in Jersey? Is that where they play?

• 15:56Kylie Kelce?

  It is in Jersey, yes.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  Okay, okay, got it, okay.

• 15:58Kylie Kelce?

  And the best part is, the Giants and the Jets play at the same stadium. They both play at MetLife.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  Which one is the Jets?

• 16:05Kylie Kelce?

  The Jets are the green ones.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  Okay, but Kylie, I'm not crazy, there is so much to learn.

• 16:09Kylie Kelce?

  So much. And I really think that maybe you should come back on a regular basis and ask all of the questions that you come up with, so that we can dive in, because again, like I said when we first signed on, I'm concerned about the fact that if you have all of these questions, someone else also has these questions.

• 16:29Speaker 03

  But nobody gives me an answer I understand, like you weren't giving me an answer that I understand. Like, I, I'm not even, I was like, how, when you audition for a position, if you're like a quarter or whatever, and then defense, where do you, like, how do you have to study that in college? And it's recently been WWE, I feel like I'm watching Lioness on the field, everyone's just getting injured, I'm like, what is going, is that, is that normally what's happening?

• 16:56Kylie Kelce?

  It is not, no, I feel like there's been an absurd number of injuries this year.

• 17:00Speaker 03

  And to like the big players, like the really, like the, the.

• 17:05Kylie Kelce?

  I know Saquon Barkley is week to week, tell him like that.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  Totally.

• 17:10Kylie Kelce?

  Tell him like, tell him like that.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Saquon Barkley.

• 17:13Kylie Kelce?

  He's, he's probably very upset about Saquon. He should be, because we took him.

• 17:18Speaker 03

  Oh, he's on this one? Oh, he got traded, they traded? This happened this week?

• 17:22Kylie Kelce?

  No, no, no, two years ago, but then we took him and we won a Super Bowl.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  Got it, got it, got it.

• 17:28Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, another thing about Philadelphia, we'll never let you live at town. Every single time I see anyone who's like a Giants fan, or they say to me, like, go Giants, I will look them dead in the eyes and be like, thank you so much for Saquon Barkley. And it still hurts them to their core.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  Oh, I should tell Michael that. This is what we've decided to, we're going to get Eagles outfits.

• 17:52Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, we are.

• 17:53Speaker 03

  Maybe, Kylie, you know what we should do? We should call.

• 17:56Kylie Kelce?

  Kristen, use check.

• 17:58Speaker 03

  I was going to say Scaparelli, Daniel Rosebery, and have them create like a, like a collection of like Eagles, maybe like a sculpted Eagles corset I could wear.

• 18:09Kylie Kelce?

  Can I say this one thing? Because there's, like, I'll coach you up for football, but then I'm going to need your help.

• 18:16Speaker 03

  Oh, mama, I'll take you to whatever showrooms you want. Scaparelli is, Daniel Rosebery at Scaparelli is probably one of the brilliant designers, really creates art even in ready to wear, right? Because there's couture, there's very few couture houses, like, ready to wear is what we wear, it's like what you see when you walk into, like, let's say, Chanel store.

• 18:33Kylie Kelce?

  I know this.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  You know, right? Yes, you know. Versus like couture, which is specifically made for the, one item, it's made for the client. So there's the couture shows, Scaparelli, Daniel Rosebery is so brilliant, that he creates ready to wear that mimics couture. I'm thinking like a corset with the Eagles logo embellished with some of the beautiful, like embroidery and some of the like accessories that he does, and then we both wear that.

• 18:58Kylie Kelce?

  Do you know?

• 19:01Speaker 03

  Because I'm a little bit jaded with this, this kind of, you know, I feel like we can do a little better.

• 19:06Kylie Kelce?

  Do you know how much it would, it would fuck people up if I showed up to the stadium in like that cool of a game day fit?

• 19:14Speaker 03

  Well, you know, Michael's a stylist, and this is what he does, he's a private stylist, my boyfriend. He will, he will work it out, he will put together, and something that you feel comfortable in, you know what I mean?

• 19:25Kylie Kelce?

  Can it match a pair of Chuck Taylors?

• 19:28Speaker 03

  Who?

• 19:30Kylie Kelce?

  A pair of chucks.

• 19:31Speaker 03

  Is he a designer?

• 19:34Speaker 03

  What's, what's a week, Kylie, what's a-

• 19:35Kylie Kelce?

  Converse? Like a Converse Chuck Taylor?

• 19:38Speaker 03

  Oh, oh, oh, not my lore. Okay, I love Converse's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can do that.

• 19:44Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, so you're gonna coach me up on fashion?

• 19:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:46Kylie Kelce?

  I'm gonna coach you up on football.

• 19:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then we're gonna do also a get ready with me for a Phillies, for an Eagles game. I'm sorry.

• 19:54Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:55Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, you can come to a Phillies game, too.

• 19:58Speaker 03

  I, here's the thing-

• 19:59Kylie Kelce?

  Did you know that that's baseball?

• 20:02Speaker 03

  They're called the Phillies?

• 20:05Kylie Kelce?

  That's our baseball team.

• 20:06Speaker 03

  You're joking.

• 20:08Kylie Kelce?

  I'm not joking.

• 20:08Speaker 03

  See, like, guys, I'm not making this up. Like, it is confusing. Okay, okay. No, but I would love to do that. And I will come to, and I, it'll be my first time in Philadelphia. And what better way to like, you know, lose my Philly virginity than to go to a-

• 20:23Kylie Kelce?

  Pop your Philly cherry?

• 20:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh, yeah, that's better. Than to go to a, uh, an Eagles game. I would love nothing more.

• 20:30Kylie Kelce?

  I, okay, so we talked about the team names-

• 20:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:34Kylie Kelce?

  -earlier, about the football teams.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:36Kylie Kelce?

  But I do think we should get into just some rules of the game for any new NFL fans watching this.

• 20:41Speaker 03

  Okay, do you wanna test me or what are we, what are we gonna discuss?

• 20:46Kylie Kelce?

  I'm gonna start simple. I am gonna test you a little bit.

• 20:48Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 20:49Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. Can you explain the following? And you can ask me to jump in wherever you need me. How do you score a touchdown?

• 20:59Speaker 03

  You just, you, you just run your little booty off to the other side of the field.

• 21:05Kylie Kelce?

  Correct. I'll actually take that.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  Right, okay.

• 21:08Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, you have control of the ball in the end zone. Cross, you have to cross the plane of the end zone.

• 21:14Speaker 03

  You can't drop it.

• 21:15Kylie Kelce?

  What are the goalposts for?

• 21:18Speaker 03

  The kickers. For the end, when you've hit a touchdown, you can, you, so that the kicker- Does their mother effin' job- And gets it in through the hundred mile radius goalpost. Like, Mary, I'm sorry, I feel like I could also maybe do that.

• 21:35Kylie Kelce?

  Let's try.

• 21:37Speaker 03

  I'd be down. We should do that. If there's a player you know who would help coach me, and then I would try.

• 21:43Kylie Kelce?

  Our kicker, Jake Elliott, he's a delight.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Love.

• 21:48Kylie Kelce?

  He's very good at his job.

• 21:49Speaker 03

  We love Jake, we love Elliott, we're in.

• 21:51Kylie Kelce?

  Let's get Jake, let's get Jake in on this. Can you explain what happens when there's a pick six?

• 21:57Speaker 03

  Kylie, jump in.

• 21:59Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  Need you, we need you to jump in. If I had to, if I had to guess, a pick six would be, in my mind, if they're not doing well, the coach will pick six of the best players and have them take over?

• 22:14Kylie Kelce?

  That would be, honestly, maybe that's the move. When we need a good shift, it's, it's not that.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  It's not at all that.

• 22:19Kylie Kelce?

  Do you know what a pick is?

• 22:24Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe.

• 22:24Speaker 03

  My god, pick my favorite.

• 22:26Kylie Kelce?

  No. No.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  Kylie, jump in.

• 22:30Kylie Kelce?

  A pick, a pick is when there is an interception, or the other team catches the ball when they are on defense, or, uh, obtains possession of the ball on defense. That's a pick.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  So Kylie-

• 22:42Kylie Kelce?

  So a pick six-

• 22:43Speaker 03

  Why don't they just call it an interception?

• 22:45Kylie Kelce?

  I would love-

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Oh, pick six, okay, okay, okay, okay.

• 22:47Kylie Kelce?

  Pick six is cute. Pick six is like a little bit cuter.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  Oh, I can get on board with that, then.

• 22:52Kylie Kelce?

  Um, what makes for the best tight end?

• 22:59Speaker 03

  If I had it my way, um, no, a best tight end-

• 23:05Kylie Kelce?

  Squats and a good-

• 23:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, squats and a good trainer. I do think it has to do a bit with like, the physique of a, of a, of the man, and perhaps he's hitting his macros. And I think that makes him, um, in the end zone, be able to just play well.

• 23:31Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Kylie, jump in.

• 23:32Kylie Kelce?

  The tight end is a position on the field. We, now, they wanna be able to do two things really well.

• 23:40Speaker 03

  It's not a person.

• 23:42Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, it is a person, but like, it's a person on the field. They wanna be able to do two things really well. They wanna be able to catch the ball really well, and they wanna be able to block really well. Those are the two things that they wanna be able to do really well. I mean, there's other components of their job, but that's really boiling it down to like the bare minimum.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  But they have the most amount of, they're like the dance captain for the team. Like, they have the most responsibility?

• 24:05Kylie Kelce?

  They're very versatile in their responsibilities.

• 24:08Speaker 03

  Oh, nothing wrong with being versatile. That's all I'll say.

• 24:11Kylie Kelce?

  We kinda love it.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  Wait, I love that, okay.

• 24:13Kylie Kelce?

  Now, do you know who the best tight end is in football?

• 24:19Kylie Kelce?

  This is a little bit of a trick-

• 24:20Speaker 03

  George.

• 24:20Kylie Kelce?

  Nope, this is a-

• 24:21Speaker 03

  Kid.

• 24:22Kylie Kelce?

  Nope, this is a little bit of a trick question.

• 24:25Speaker 03

  There is no best tight end.

• 24:27Kylie Kelce?

  Wrong. Sorry, I have to be direct about this.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  You're, you know this person?

• 24:38Speaker 03

  This person's in your family, not your, not your-

• 24:45Kylie Kelce?

  It's not my husband. He was an offensive lineman.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  It's your brother-in-law?

• 24:48Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, it is.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  Travis.

• 24:50Kylie Kelce?

  It is Travis.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  He's the best tight end.

• 24:52Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, I'm a little biased, but honestly, his stats say that we're correct.

• 24:57Speaker 03

  So he does, so he has to catch really well?

• 25:00Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 25:00Speaker 03

  And he has to, and which one does he like to do better? Do you know?

• 25:05Kylie Kelce?

  Um, I would assume that he likes to catch it, because catching it means that he ran a really good route, that he was able to gain possession of the ball, and typically, which he just was able to hit a new milestone on, is yards after the catch, which means after he catches the ball, he then runs like a bulldozer.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:23Kylie Kelce?

  Like those run clubs.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:24Kylie Kelce?

  And just, I mean, it takes a couple people to take him down.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  How tall is he?

• 25:29Kylie Kelce?

  He is six-five. How tall is he? Six-five.

• 25:33Speaker 03

  And how tall is your husband?

• 25:34Kylie Kelce?

  Six-three.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  They're not twins.

• 25:37Kylie Kelce?

  They're not twins. My husband is two years older than my brother-in-law.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  Oh, Kev is two years older than me.

• 25:44Kylie Kelce?

  It's very sweet.

• 25:45Speaker 03

  It's a great distance. Did he audition for that role? Like, for that play? Like, did he do, had, did he, or did they put, because he was so good, they were like, you are now our tight end?

• 25:54Kylie Kelce?

  So he, uh, came into college as a quarterback.

• 26:00Kylie Kelce?

  And they moved him to tight end because of his versatile skillset. Yes, because he's, he's very good at what he does. And they were right.

• 26:10Speaker 03

  Wow. Travis.

• 26:14Kylie Kelce?

  Travis.

• 26:14Speaker 03

  I know Travis, I know Travis. And then in the off-season, they can just kinda like live their best life and just do whatever.

• 26:21Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 26:22Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 26:23Kylie Kelce?

  Now, they still train almost, I would say, probably minimum four days a week.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, I feel that. I'm kind of in that world right now, which is a lot, but for theater, which is very different. But also really intense. Like, we're doing eight shows a week, like, it's a lot.

• 26:38Kylie Kelce?

  And a team sport.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  And a team sport. It really is. It really is. Um, if you guys come to New York, you should come to the show.

• 26:47Kylie Kelce?

  Done.

• 26:48Speaker 03

  Please. My first, my opening night is on the 13th, and then my run is through December 6th.

• 26:54Kylie Kelce?

  Done.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  Have you seen Anne Juliet on Broadway?

• 26:57Kylie Kelce?

  I have not. I have not. I have a, a very good friend of mine who is my Broadway cheat. Like, she will tell me all the things. For her bachelorette party, we went to Six.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Such a fun one. So fun.

• 27:10Kylie Kelce?

  And let me tell you-

• 27:11Speaker 03

  This is very similar to that show.

• 27:15Speaker 03

  So I put, and I basically like play myself in the show. It's lovely. I play May, who's Juliet's best friend, and I'm like this non-binary, beautiful, human, discovering life, maybe 22. I'm 25 now, you'd never know. I'm 32. So a 22-year-old-

• 27:30Kylie Kelce?

  I'm 24.

• 27:31Speaker 03

  Uh, perfect. I know, we can celebrate 25 together. Um, so I, that's the role that I play. It's amazing, it's really fun. It's very similar. I say if you liked Six and you enjoyed Six, it's a very similar type of like an energy. It's a musical, it's fun. It's also very kid, like, it's, it's kid-friendly. There's, it's, like, Michael's nieces are like 12 and nine, and they're gonna come see the show again. They've already seen it and they loved it. So maybe your youngins are a little too young, but I feel like you would really love it. It's a great show.

• 27:56Kylie Kelce?

  I'm there.

• 27:56Speaker 03

  Okay, you just let me know.

• 27:58Kylie Kelce?

  I'm so there. Um- I cannot thank you enough for stopping by.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  Thank you so much for having me. This is my, see, this is my safe space. I love your platform. I think it's a very, I think you also, um, we can chat about it. I just think you very unequivocally stand by what you say. And that is very, is just doing a lot of good. Like there's like, I cannot tell you, even in that one interaction that we've had, I had, I got thousands of messages from people about us, about that moment and being like, this is exactly what we need. This is the bridge that we need to cross. Like, it's really wonderful. It really is.

• 28:38Kylie Kelce?

  I just love.

• 28:38Speaker 03

  The dots.

• 28:39Kylie Kelce?

  Well, I just love that your content like is lighthearted, but is like making a statement and, and, and fun and funny. And you, you're really like, it's a joy to watch.

• 28:53Speaker 03

  Oh, thank you.

• 28:54Kylie Kelce?

  And also your dad is hilarious.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  He's the best. He's the star.

• 28:57Kylie Kelce?

  Well, your NFL takes are unmatched and the real ones can check you out on Broadway. Like you were saying, on October 13th through December 6th.

• 29:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:04Kylie Kelce?

  And Juliette.

• 29:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. Come see.

• 29:07Kylie Kelce?

  I'm gonna go see it. So you guys should too.

• 29:10Speaker 03

  We love it.

• 29:10Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you so much.

• 29:11Speaker 03

  Thank you so much for having me.

• 29:13Kylie Kelce?

  That was our first ever NFL correspondent drop in brought to you today by Visa. Jen Hamilton is coming up. This football season, whether you're buying tickets, booking travel, or shopping for team gear, protect your pocket with Visa. Tapping to pay without checking which card? Not a pro move. Tapping to pay with Visa? That's a pro move. Visa runs more than 500 security checks to help identify fraud before transactions are approved. So you can focus your defensive energy on other things, like defending Philly at a New York sports bar. That might not be a pro move, but paying with Visa is. Visa, the most trusted way to pay for football fans everywhere. Cheese. For my audio listeners, I'm currently smiling my biggest possible smile right now.

• 29:55Kylie Kelce?

  Because thanks to Invisalign aligners, I actually enjoy seeing her. Look at her. She's a solid smile and I use Invisalign to get her. I had braces and after I finished my treatment, I may or may not have been irresponsible and did not wear my retainers properly and might have gotten them eaten by the dog and might have thrown them out a couple of times and might have just forgotten about them. And you know what that means? Yeah, that's right. My teeth shifted because I wasn't ready to be held responsible. But in college, I decided to do something about it, AKA get Invisalign aligners because they're the number one doctor recommended clear aligner brand for teeth straightening. And I wanted to actually look in the mirror and feel confident. I think it's one of the

• 30:40Kylie Kelce?

  most beautiful things that you can possibly do is show a full teeth smile. And now I get to do that and feel confident in my smile. If you're where I was and ready to do something for yourself and your smile, Invisalign treatment could be the start of your own confidence journey. And you can bet your bottom dollar, I wear my retainers now every night. My kids actually call them my teeth and they say, did you put your teeth in? Are your teeth in there? So there's that. You can get your dream smile too, in as little as six months. Don't wait. Invest in you and find your local Invisalign doctor today. She's a literal earth angel, otherwise known as a labor and delivery nurse. She's the hilarious New York Times bestselling author of Birth Vibes, one of the Rolling Stones' top 25 most influential creators of 2026, a fellow mom, the embodiment of women supporting

• 31:25Kylie Kelce?

  women, and now she's officially not gonna lie, Jen Hamilton, welcome to the show.

• 31:29Speaker 03

  Kylie, how's it going?

• 31:30Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. Um, I have been a fan of you for a very long time, for many reasons. Let's see, the labor and delivery aspect of it, the chickens.

• 31:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 31:42Kylie Kelce?

  The statements that you make that don't need a whole lot of words.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:48Kylie Kelce?

  I love it. Well, I love all of it. This is incredible. And also you are just having, dare I say, like, I don't want to say glow up because I think you were hottest shit.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 32:01Kylie Kelce?

  When I found you. But you are just, you're, I'll say thriving.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Well, thank you.

• 32:06Kylie Kelce?

  Do you think?

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Like, I've lost 200 pounds. I didn't know that, if you knew that, 200 pounds of man. And then you just feel so liberated.

• 32:16Kylie Kelce?

  You know?

• 32:17Speaker 02

  The worst kind of pounds.

• 32:19Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  For sure. Yeah. So I feel, I feel liberated. I feel, um, I feel so much better. I did cry for like a month straight. And then I woke up and I was like, hmm, maybe I should not do that anymore. And then I just was like, I'm gonna live my life because now I get to have my life, you know?

• 32:35Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  Which is wonderful.

• 32:36Kylie Kelce?

  Uninterrupted.

• 32:37Speaker 02

  Uninterrupted. Nobody.

• 32:39Kylie Kelce?

  Noise.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  Ugh.

• 32:41Kylie Kelce?

  Yikes. Ew. Oh, apparently the rest of the world couldn't wait for us to meet either. You are one of our most requested guests since we started, not gonna lie, literally episode one to now. This is a real comment on last week's episode. Could we please get a Jen Hamilton and Kylie collaboration? We have birth story, these are all the comments on it. This, I feared the internet would break. That would be amazing. So much fun.

• 33:08Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 33:08Kylie Kelce?

  I can hear Kylie on tits in the wind. Yes, of course.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 33:13Kylie Kelce?

  Now, can you please explain tits in the wind?

• 33:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, okay, so I wrote a book about birth. And when I started writing it, I think that, you know, like publishers and editors and stuff are expecting this professional book, obviously.

• 33:27Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  Right? We're professional. Not. So I started writing the book and I wrote it how I talk, how I talk to my patients, how I talk in real life. And I have this book coach. So what I would do is like, I would write a chapter and I would send it to her and she would like edit it for grammar and stuff. And so in the first chapter, I say, instead of my patient getting naked, I say tits in the wind, you know? Cause I feel like that gives a new, you know, it's like a good visual, you know, they're just swaying. Titties are swaying in the wind. Okay. And, uh, so I sent it to her and then I got back her editing and it was, she crossed it out, put naked. And I was like, no, no, no, I don't think you understand. I don't think, I don't think you understand. This is how we're saying it. So they let me be awesome.

• 34:12Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  In my own voice in birth vibe. So, uh, that's where it came from. And then I was on the Kelly Clarkson Show and then I did say nipples in the wind.

• 34:20Kylie Kelce?

  I did see that.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  I didn't know if tits was a good thing to say on national television.

• 34:25Kylie Kelce?

  This is allowed.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  Nipples.

• 34:26Kylie Kelce?

  Anatomically, that is a part of your body.

• 34:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:29Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  And, and my agent Noah made me promise that I would not say, blow your load early. That's what I'd always say too. When, okay, you think about preparing for maybe an unmedicated birth. Okay. You learn all of your, all of the things you need to know about how to cope in labor. Okay.

• 34:45Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  People get into labor and they get excited to use those coping strategies. And I say, don't blow your load early.

• 34:53Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  You know?

• 34:54Kylie Kelce?

  You don't want to use your load of strategies before you really need them.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  Load's done.

• 34:58Kylie Kelce?

  God, what were you thinking? Crazy? Wow, you sickos.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  So you tell me that I couldn't say that on Kelly Clarkson, but I feel like I could say it to you.

• 35:06Kylie Kelce?

  A thousand percent you can say it to me.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  I can say it to Kylie's face and not.

• 35:12Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, we are an open book over here.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  We are.

• 35:16Kylie Kelce?

  An open book.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:18Kylie Kelce?

  Um, well, as one of my favorite TikTok follows, I figured we'd start with a special Jen Hamilton version of our segment Doom Scroll of the Week to educate anyone who hasn't had the joy of your TikToks in their feed yet.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 35:30Kylie Kelce?

  First up, you posted a video from an airplane recently that has 62 million views.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:38Kylie Kelce?

  I'm gonna let the clip do the rest.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 35:39Kylie Kelce?

  The man sitting behind my sister accidentally pulled her hair and said, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry for pulling your hair. I said, oh, don't worry. She likes that. Can you confirm?

• 35:54Kylie Kelce?

  Julie, you like that? She said, sure. Have you been embarrassing Julie her whole life?

• 36:00Speaker 02

  Um, once we.

• 36:02Kylie Kelce?

  She looked away.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  She looked away. I do like to say crazy stuff in front of people, you know?

• 36:08Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. Anyway, um, the video hit his for you page before we even landed.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  And you see how devastated she is.

• 36:17Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:18Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, no. Oh, no. Okay. Okay. Break this story down for me.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:25Kylie Kelce?

  You posted TikTok of a funny interaction you have with a random man on an airplane.

• 36:30Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:31Kylie Kelce?

  And before you land, he sees the TikTok.

• 36:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:35Kylie Kelce?

  What does he say?

• 36:37Speaker 02

  What did he say? I feel like he just reached around.

• 36:40Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, he just showed you.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  He just showed us.

• 36:43Kylie Kelce?

  He let it speak for itself.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  Yes. Cause he knew, he knew what we knew when, yeah. And so, yeah, I thought it was freaking hilarious, but I know that is probably embarrassing for my sister.

• 36:54Kylie Kelce?

  Julie, Julie.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  She doesn't care.

• 36:56Kylie Kelce?

  She's your sister. So she knew what was coming.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:58Kylie Kelce?

  Is she older or younger?

• 36:59Speaker 02

  Younger, five years younger.

• 37:01Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 37:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:01Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 37:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, what a fun time.

• 37:05Kylie Kelce?

  Um, next up, something else we have in common. We both use the phrase raw dogging. Perhaps sometimes in socially inappropriate situations.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  I think we need to make it like a thing. Cause I think it's, it can be used in so many different contexts.

• 37:18Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you for acknowledging that because we jokingly around here, and by jokingly, I mean seriously, tell people that we are not professional.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:26Kylie Kelce?

  We are unprofessional in this podcast space. And, um, so much so that whenever we start a record, if we have not gone through the rundown ahead of time, Emma will say to me, we raw dogging it? And I'll say, yep, we're raw dogging it. And then we just wing it.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I think that's, I think that that's when you get your best, your best stuff, you know?

• 37:48Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, sometimes it makes for more fun. Let's see the clip of you talking about raw dogging it.

• 37:53Speaker 07

  See, to me, raw dogging is, is multifaceted, you know? It can mean many things. And in that context, I just mean like taking the day as it comes, you know, taking everything.

• 38:09Speaker 07

  Nat- naturally, needing no protection from what is, is to come, is needing.

• 38:20Speaker 07

  Nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with either context. I just wanted to say, I'm not, okay.

• 38:28Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 38:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:30Kylie Kelce?

  This is an outstanding explanation.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I think it also, you know, everyone should use protection when they're using, when we're talking about raw dogging in a different way. You know, maybe, maybe we don't.

• 38:41Kylie Kelce?

  The original intention of the term raw dogging.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Probably not the best.

• 38:45Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 38:45Speaker 02

  Wait, unless, you know.

• 38:46Kylie Kelce?

  Unless you're, unless you're trying to create new life.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  Raw dog.

• 38:52Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  So hard.

• 38:54Kylie Kelce?

  And then marinate. I don't know. Look at us. All of our terms, food terms.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  I also agree with that in the context of like labor and delivery, because you could get a, you could get a story about a patient saying like, oh my gosh, she's so mean. Well.

• 39:08Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  It could also be that she's scared. You know what I'm saying? And so sometimes going in with like, not even just like raw dogging, like not knowing what's happening ahead of time, but like letting it go. You know, whatever people say to you, let those preconceived notions go and then you can have your own experience.

• 39:24Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. You got a lot of mean.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  I mean, unintentionally mean. Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be mad that you try to bite me, you know?

• 39:33Kylie Kelce?

  Have you been bitten?

• 39:35Speaker 02

  You know, they try sometimes. Just you're, you're just in this feral state. Like, I need to try something else. Maybe biting would work, you know? The craziest one that I had was this poor, sweet girl had no time to get an epidural. And that was her plan. Okay. She just rolled in, ready to, ready to birth. And to cope, she had her friend over here, one headlock. She had her nurse over here, other headlock.

• 40:03Kylie Kelce?

  Oh.

• 40:03Speaker 02

  And then just like, you know.

• 40:05Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 40:06Speaker 02

  Did that.

• 40:07Kylie Kelce?

  It's a little different than the comb technique.

• 40:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it, it was different, but it helped, you know?

• 40:12Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, last clip is a throwback here, a topic I really want to ask you about.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Hi, I'm a labor and delivery nurse and I want to tell you the most embarrassing thing that I did today. My sweet patient was pushing out her baby and I asked if I could help her by accommodating any of her musical needs. Like, what you want to listen to, girlfriend? Let's have some hype music. And she requested that I find spa music.

• 40:38Kylie Kelce?

  Oh.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  I mean, a little quirky, but okay, I can definitely help you out, girlfriend. So I get out my Amazon music and I'm like, oh, Mission Impossible, Let's Get It Fun. What are we going with? Yeah. No, she said, um, she said spa music. Oh. The thing about me is like, whatever you want to do, I want to do. I'm going to match your energy and we're going to do it together and I'm going to be so cool with it, right? Like there, I had a girl that played Twinkle Twinkle Little Star for 12 hours and I was like, I love this song so much. You know, like I, did I? No, but I want you to feel comfortable.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, and supported and like, I can't wait to hear it again. That's what I would say, you know?

• 41:25Kylie Kelce?

  That's the only song you played?

• 41:26Speaker 02

  For 12 hours of my shift together. It was just on a loop. Just like, and not, not even like an orchestral version, but like, like.

• 41:35Kylie Kelce?

  Like little kids.

• 41:36Speaker 02

  Oh, no. You know, like it was played on one of those little, little, you know? Yeah.

• 41:42Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you know what? That's what she needed and she did it.

• 41:46Kylie Kelce?

  And everyone was healthy.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Everyone was healthy and great. And so I say, play more.

• 41:50Kylie Kelce?

  So Twinkle Twinkle, that fucking star, huh?

• 41:52Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 41:52Kylie Kelce?

  As someone who didn't have birth playlists, is there any birth playlists that you've heard where you thought to yourself, you nailed this? And what are the songs that did that?

• 42:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I see the ones that work the best are like the really hardcore, either like, uh, screamo rock or, um, like Bad Bitch, like Beyonce Lemonade, or, um, Meg Thee Stallion. Or like really cussy rap, you know? Because so many people bring in a playlist, it's like kumbaya, you know, the, the, the rain, the rain sticks, you know? Do you listen to rain sticks on a normal day? No. Don't like, I need, I understand you want to relax, but also you need to be, you need to be a bad bitch.

• 42:44Kylie Kelce?

  You need to like game face it.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly. Like, like locker room, like let's, you know, like that's what we need. And so I find the people who, you know, you can have that playlist for if you feel like you need to chill the F out, but.

• 42:57Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe for your epidural nap.

• 42:59Speaker 02

  Yes, epidural nap, nice white noise or whatever, but when we get down into it, we need, we need Meg.

• 43:05Kylie Kelce?

  We need game time.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 43:07Kylie Kelce?

  That makes so much sense. Okay. Well, since we're talking about birth playlists, I figured we might as well get into everything else about birth as if we haven't already. Uh, with a segment we call what to expect when you've already expected.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 43:21Kylie Kelce?

  You've technically done this thousands of times, right? You've given advice on.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  Given it, you know, given advice, talk people through it, but done it only two times, you know?

• 43:29Kylie Kelce?

  You say only.

• 43:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:30Kylie Kelce?

  I think as soon as you've done it once, it's like, holy shit.

• 43:34Speaker 02

  Into the club.

• 43:36Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. Um, for this special edition, I'm going to ask you all the labor and delivery questions sent in by the NGL real ones.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  Can't wait.

• 43:43Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, but first I have a couple of my own.

• 43:44Speaker 02

  Okay, perfect.

• 43:45Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. Uh, first, have you ever seen a dad bring a full-size commercial fan into the maternity ward for himself?

• 43:53Speaker 02

  This makes, this sounds personal.

• 43:55Kylie Kelce?

  It is.

• 43:57Speaker 02

  I have not. I've seen.

• 43:58Kylie Kelce?

  Interesting.

• 43:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've seen a dad bring a 55-inch TV.

• 44:03Kylie Kelce?

  No, you didn't.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  From Best Buy.

• 44:04Kylie Kelce?

  No, you didn't.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  I did.

• 44:05Kylie Kelce?

  No, you didn't.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Because his gaming system would not.

• 44:07Kylie Kelce?

  No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  So went to Best Buy.

• 44:10Kylie Kelce?

  Jen?

• 44:11Speaker 02

  And.

• 44:12Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  And then.

• 44:14Kylie Kelce?

  Jen?

• 44:15Speaker 02

  He got it out. It was cracked down the middle.

• 44:19Kylie Kelce?

  And that is, that.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 44:22Kylie Kelce?

  That is the universe and the Lord working overtime.

• 44:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 44:27Kylie Kelce?

  Wow.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I haven't seen a fan. That's great.

• 44:30Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. How did Jason sleep at the hospital? Like, how did he?

• 44:35Kylie Kelce?

  Um, not comfortably. He made it a point to tell me.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Oh, I bet he did. I bet he was real uncomfortable.

• 44:42Kylie Kelce?

  To be fair, he, I always like joke around, like I always bust his balls. He is such a great support person. And the problem is that I, I like mess with him so often and like, kind of like take jabs so often that I think he still is not sure whether or not I'm telling the truth every time. I'm like, he's the best support person. You know, this brings me to another point. How do you feel about what I call the cooking demo mirror or the home ec mirror?

• 45:10Speaker 02

  The one where we, where we have it at the end of the thing and you can like look.

• 45:14Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 45:15Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 45:15Kylie Kelce?

  Do you?

• 45:16Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 45:17Kylie Kelce?

  That's an interesting take, Jen.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  Ask people, do you want a mirror? It's either a hell yes or a hell no. And mostly hell no. Like offended that I even would ask that.

• 45:28Kylie Kelce?

  That would be, that would be me. A thousand percent. Yeah. When they showed me that there was what I call the home ec mirror. Cause it was always like the cooking demonstrations in home ec.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:38Kylie Kelce?

  Where like the mirror is above the table. And I'm like, guys, I don't, I don't want to see.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 45:45Kylie Kelce?

  The destruction of my undercarriage, okay? My lady bits.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:50Kylie Kelce?

  That's between her and you guys. No.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. The other thing that I, I get a lot of is like, people don't want to see, uh, also like their, their grooming or lack thereof. People are so embarrassed of their pubes and stuff. There was, there was one time that I, I got so excited because I could start to see the baby's head. I was like, there's so much hair. And she's like, so sorry, I forgot to shave. I was like, no, no, no.

• 46:16Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, no.

• 46:16Speaker 02

  Not your hair, your baby's hair. Yeah, I got excited.

• 46:19Kylie Kelce?

  Let's be real.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:21Kylie Kelce?

  When you are nine months pregnant, you have this big old belly. I was able to prep because I was induced all four times.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:31Kylie Kelce?

  Everyone had to be evicted.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 46:33Kylie Kelce?

  I have explained it to my husband. What's, what was the most, the most death-defying act I've ever had to partake in? Taking a razor.

• 46:48Kylie Kelce?

  Blindly.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Upside down.

• 46:50Kylie Kelce?

  Feeling.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:53Kylie Kelce?

  Keep that in. Feeling with one hand and shaving with the other.

• 46:58Speaker 02

  I wrote in my book that I look like Joe Dirt down there. Business in the front, party in the back. Okay? Because I could, I could only reach a certain amount without.

• 47:09Kylie Kelce?

  What do you want us to do?

• 47:10Speaker 02

  I know.

• 47:11Kylie Kelce?

  Now, the best part is.

• 47:12Speaker 02

  Whatever my butthole look like is none of my business.

• 47:15Kylie Kelce?

  I will, I will tell you. As someone who has now given birth four times, it very much feels to me like all bets are off. Like, if I walked in to an office and they were like, head to toe, this is what's hap- you need to get tits in the wind.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Tits in the wind.

• 47:36Kylie Kelce?

  And we're doing this, I'd be like, my fate is now in your hands. You are responsible for me.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:44Kylie Kelce?

  And I trust you. And then I do it.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:47Kylie Kelce?

  And I wouldn't ask any questions and I wouldn't be embarrassed because they gotta come out somehow.

• 47:51Speaker 02

  That's exactly right.

• 47:52Kylie Kelce?

  They gotta come out.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  I do love the moment when people get rid of that like, oh, you know? I feel like that's when the power comes out.

• 47:58Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 47:58Speaker 02

  I had a girl one time who, um, she had like five visitors in there and they were all like her husband's family, which I, I am always like, girl, you want to get them to leave, you know? Like, I can kick them out. But she was so like modest and didn't want to, you know, show anything.

• 48:16Kylie Kelce?

  I wonder why.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  That could be like, really, like, uh, impeding your progress too because you're not feeling relaxed. But there was a moment where she just took it all off.

• 48:26Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, she did. Titties in the wind.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  Swinging, okay? And that was the moment that she needed to be able, and then her father-in-law was like, they leave themselves, you know what I'm saying? Like, they.

• 48:38Kylie Kelce?

  They show themselves out.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 48:39Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 48:40Speaker 02

  I feel like everyone should have that moment. Make, uh, make other people uncomfortable and then they will, you know, leave you alone.

• 48:45Kylie Kelce?

  I don't really, I don't, I'm gonna say it. Because I don't, I don't know that you can technically say it because you're of the best of the best support people. Your husband's family should not be in there.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  No, I a hundred percent agree.

• 49:00Kylie Kelce?

  There is absolutely no reason that your husband's family should be looking at your hidden temple. I'm out. I don't, I don't want it. I don't want, I know. You're not going to, I always say like, that's staring into my soul.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:14Kylie Kelce?

  I don't want you to stare into my soul. I barely wanted my husband to stare into my soul.

• 49:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:17Kylie Kelce?

  When I was giving birth. Do you think I want you, do you think I want to look at you every time I look at you now, from now until the end of time, to think to myself, you've seen my cooter? And not only have you seen my cooter, you've seen it stretched.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:32Kylie Kelce?

  To fit out a human being.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:35Kylie Kelce?

  I've seen when the, when the NASCAR pit crew fills into the room because it's go time, I mean, you're like teeth chattering. You're like, I feel the pressure in my rectum, I can't stop.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Two liter in your asshole.

• 49:47Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, I can't stop what's coming. The train is coming. The train has left the station. Yeah.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  It's coming.

• 49:54Kylie Kelce?

  When that moment hits, you need all the ru- they need all the room that they can get. I mean, I got three people down in the, in the splash zone. I got, I got at least two nurses. You got the nurses who are over to receive baby, right? I mean.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  It's a lot going on.

• 50:14Kylie Kelce?

  There's a lot going on. Next question, the first thing I said when my youngest was born was, um, that's another Kelsey. What's the funniest thing you can remember a mom and dad saying when they first saw their child?

• 50:27Speaker 02

  Um, let's see. Oh. I had a dad say, my lord, a snap and turla.

• 50:40Kylie Kelce?

  I'm sorry, what?

• 50:42Speaker 02

  It was so quiet the whole time.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  And that's what he said. And I was like, Alan, I don't know.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:53Kylie Kelce?

  What?

• 50:54Speaker 02

  I also had a dad that like was trying to be, um, encouraging while his lady was pushing and he ran out of things to say.

• 51:01Kylie Kelce?

  Of course he did.

• 51:02Speaker 02

  And he said, ka chow. Like, like, like name a queen. I was like, I like it, I like it, yeah.

• 51:10Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, God, I will say during, during my first labor, we had not decided on a middle name.

• 51:16Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 51:16Kylie Kelce?

  And my husband was like, I'm gonna go down there. Our OB was like, you want to come down here, you can help.

• 51:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:21Kylie Kelce?

  Like, get her out. And I was like, no, you're not. You're not doing that. You're staying right where, you're staying at my shoulder. That's, this is where you stay. And he was like, nah, I think I'm going down there. And I was like, I think the fuck you are not.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  Did you let him?

• 51:34Kylie Kelce?

  And I said, if you want to go down there, you have to tell me right now, what's her middle name? And he said, what's it between? And I said, I think it was like Anne and Elizabeth or something.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 51:44Kylie Kelce?

  My mom's name is Elizabeth, so he was like, Elizabeth. And I was like. I can't save you now, go take a peek.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 51:51Kylie Kelce?

  Do what you gotta do. Yeah.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I also tell people after you have your baby, don't look down there, like for a very long time. I remember taking a hand mirror down there, like.

• 52:03Kylie Kelce?

  Why would you do that?

• 52:04Speaker 02

  I just was curiosity.

• 52:05Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 52:06Speaker 02

  Curiosity killed the cat. Yeah. Because, all right, have you seen the show Stranger Things?

• 52:14Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, I have.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Okay. It was like that, like the upside down, like a little dark, a little mysterious, a little gooby looking, and then like unfamiliar, you know? Like familiar but not, you know?

• 52:26Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  She looked, she looked different.

• 52:27Kylie Kelce?

  She didn't look cute.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:29Kylie Kelce?

  You know what, sometimes she's not cute.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:32Kylie Kelce?

  I would say it's after pushing.

• 52:33Speaker 02

  She comes back.

• 52:34Kylie Kelce?

  She does.

• 52:35Speaker 02

  She bounces back.

• 52:36Kylie Kelce?

  She does. Okay, now these next ones are from the real ones.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  Okay, I can't wait.

• 52:39Kylie Kelce?

  From our listeners, so let's rapid to medium this.

• 52:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:43Kylie Kelce?

  First question was a very, very common ask. If you have a bowel movement while pushing, are they going to give you a second to wipe clean?

• 52:54Speaker 02

  My favorite thing to do is to be a poop ninja. Okay? I want you to not even know, okay? So if you, and it's the one thing I will lie about. If you say, am I pooping? I'll say, I am pooping.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  It is me, okay?

• 53:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm so excited for your baby.

• 53:16Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  That I'm literally shitting my pants right now.

• 53:22Speaker 02

  So, excuse me for a moment, you know?

• 53:28Speaker 02

  So what I'll do is I will, we have like baby wipes in there.

• 53:32Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  And I'll just, so quick, you don't even see it, I just, you know? And I also get a Ziploc bag. I ha- I keep a Ziploc bag of turds, okay? So I will put it in the Ziploc bag.

• 53:48Kylie Kelce?

  Excitement on your face.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  And then seal it up, so.

• 53:50Kylie Kelce?

  So there's no smell. There's, there's no evidence.

• 53:53Speaker 02

  But like if somebody is watching on the mirror and they literally see that they're taking a shit.

• 53:59Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe that's why I didn't.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:01Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe that's why I don't like the home ec mirror.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  They get embarrassed and I'll say, you can drop a hot load into my bare hands. Like, I want, I want it. Please, I want it, I want that too.

• 54:12Kylie Kelce?

  See, this to me, uh, here's the thing. Again, another reason why I love my birth team. I have no idea if I shit. I have no idea.

• 54:24Speaker 02

  Thank God.

• 54:24Kylie Kelce?

  Do I assume that I didn't because nobody said anything? I didn't smell anything and there was no like weird things? Yes, that's my assumption. And I want you to live like that. Do I know for, I want to, ignorance is bliss.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 54:38Kylie Kelce?

  If you saw it and I didn't, that never happened.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 54:42Kylie Kelce?

  That's.

• 54:43Speaker 02

  That's none of my business.

• 54:44Kylie Kelce?

  That's literally none of my, whatever's happening down there, none of my business. If it's numb, none of my business.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 54:50Kylie Kelce?

  And I was numb from my nipples down.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 54:53Kylie Kelce?

  Glorious.

• 54:54Speaker 02

  Oh, so wonderful.

• 54:55Kylie Kelce?

  Number two, next up from Tammy Catherine. What are some of the best comfort items for moms to have? Um, that you've seen or would recommend?

• 55:04Speaker 02

  Well, go to Walmart and get pillows that you.

• 55:08Kylie Kelce?

  Are fine leaving.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, not sponsored.

• 55:11Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  But.

• 55:12Kylie Kelce?

  But we.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  Just like cheapy, but nicer than what we have pillows.

• 55:17Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Because they're also covered in like a tarp, basically.

• 55:20Kylie Kelce?

  They can be sanitized, right?

• 55:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. So they're not very cozy. Also, our towels, um, are really good for like this, if you needed to wrap your calves. Like if that's all you needed to wash, then the towels that we have are fine. Um, that, that, uh, chargers, oh my gosh, people forget chargers all the time. I've got to bring a chargers. Uh, people sometimes bring.

• 55:41Kylie Kelce?

  The long one, right?

• 55:41Speaker 02

  The long ones, yeah. People sometimes bring galaxy lights. I think those are cool, like the.

• 55:47Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, that's the mood.

• 55:48Speaker 02

  You just turn, turn the lights down and then set the mood. Love that. Sometimes people bring like aromatherapy stuff. But try out your aromatherapy before you come because you can fill the room with something that you think smells like shit. You know, and then you're, you're kind of stuck for a while. Yeah.

• 56:06Speaker 02

  But people bring too much, I'll say that.

• 56:08Kylie Kelce?

  Mm-hmm.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Very rarely are people like getting into all the stuff that they brought, you know?

• 56:12Kylie Kelce?

  I was not that person.

• 56:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:14Kylie Kelce?

  I brought, I, I mean, I didn't even bring a pillow. I didn't even bring a blanket.

• 56:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, blankets, that's another one.

• 56:20Kylie Kelce?

  Because of the birth situation.

• 56:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:21Kylie Kelce?

  I think in the, in the birth experience, I think people think, yes, of course I will know if I got something on myself.

• 56:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:33Kylie Kelce?

  On my blanket, on my pillow. No, the fuck you won't.

• 56:36Speaker 02

  No.

• 56:36Kylie Kelce?

  No, you will not.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  It's everywhere.

• 56:37Kylie Kelce?

  No, you will not.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 56:39Kylie Kelce?

  The number of times where I stood up after birth and turned around and looked at the bed and was like, I didn't even know I was leaking.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:44Kylie Kelce?

  You know, like just, I mean, the, I will say after birth, the one time, um, the nurse came in and she was like, we're gonna change your gown. And I was like, why?

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:56Kylie Kelce?

  She said, I think you got some stuff on you. And I looked down and I said, oh, that's not birth, that's tomato pie.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  Tomato.

• 57:06Kylie Kelce?

  Mm-hmm. That's Carlinos.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  She thought you had like a blood clot sitting on your neck.

• 57:09Kylie Kelce?

  No, girl, that's, let me get that. That's Carlinos tomato pie. That's what that was. Um, every single time I eat that after birth, but I got it on me that time and she was concerned that I had gotten birth on my gown. I didn't. Uh, next one, longest labor time that you've experienced and the shortest labor time that you've experienced?

• 57:30Speaker 02

  Longest one, they have to be inductions because you're talking your body into doing something that it's not doing yet. So longest induction I ever took care of was five days. And still ended in a C-section. We tried so hard to get her a vaginal birth, but it did not work out. Um, and then shortest.

• 57:47Kylie Kelce?

  Five?

• 57:47Speaker 02

  Five, like, like the number five, one, two, three, four, five. It was wild.

• 57:52Kylie Kelce?

  Days.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  Days. Mm-hmm. She wanted a vaginal delivery. We wanted vaginal delivery. As long as everybody's healthy, like, we keep pushing for that. But it just got to a point where it was like, this is not gonna happen.

• 58:01Kylie Kelce?

  How much pitocin can you get?

• 58:03Speaker 02

  So, it depends on the hospital. Like, the upper echelon of that is to be on like forty. You should really never, not hardly ever get to that high.

• 58:14Kylie Kelce?

  That threshold.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  That's gotta be like a rare, rare, rare, rare thing. And you've gotta try other stuff. But, um, we like to stay way, way lower than that. But bless her heart. Yeah, it was wild. And then shortest, uh, they're, they're what I call drive-bys, which I love.

• 58:33Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  Which is somebody rolling in on one butt cheek. Okay?

• 58:35Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  In the, in the bed like this, you know? Coming down the hallway, um, where you just, you know, you just make sure it doesn't hit the floor.

• 58:43Kylie Kelce?

  You catch.

• 58:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, you just catch. And people, people, I think, overestimate all the things you need to catch a baby. Hands. You need hands. I've no gloved so many babies, you know?

• 58:55Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, cuz they're ju- they're coming.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  They're coming. They're wet. They're slippery. You just gotta.

• 58:59Kylie Kelce?

  You can't cross your legs and, like, you're not gonna cross your legs and stop them.

• 59:03Speaker 02

  It's coming. And if it's coming, it's coming.

• 59:04Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  You know, so I.

• 59:07Kylie Kelce?

  Caught him.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna, yeah, I'm not gonna let it bounce.

• 59:11Kylie Kelce?

  You caught him. That's crazy.

• 59:13Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 59:14Kylie Kelce?

  That has to, nope. Mm-mm. No. Though, my first labor, I still remember, I was gripping the sides of the bed, and Jason is getting behind my back, and I'm gripping it, and I'm gripping it. And my lovely angel of a labor and delivery nurse goes, "She's crowning." And I was like, "Okay, great." And she's like, "Give me your hand."

• 59:33Speaker 02

  I know what's going.

• 59:34Kylie Kelce?

  She puts my hand on, and I touched Wyatt's head.

• 59:37Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 59:38Kylie Kelce?

  And then she gave me, I was like, "Oh, yeah, there she is." And I took my hand back and went, "Huh."

• 59:45Speaker 02

  It's when you wipe it on him.

• 59:47Kylie Kelce?

  I literally was like, "Do I touch the bed?" And then I was like, "You know what? Fuck it."

• 59:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:50Kylie Kelce?

  And now, like, I'm ju- I couldn't help myself. But I was like, "What do I do with it now? I have birth goo on me."

• 59:56Speaker 02

  Right.

• 59:56Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. I made it, though. Like, I made it. So, it's a little less weird, I think. The next question, which I couldn't have phrased better myself, doesn't it hurt to piss after they stitch you up if you tear? How do you pee? I have an answer for this.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, tell us what your answer is.

• 1:00:13Kylie Kelce?

  Dermoplast.

• 1:00:14Speaker 02

  Isn't it the best?

• 1:00:15Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, my gosh. Ju- I, so I saw someone say, like, "Oh, you spray it after you go." Every single time I sit down on the toilet after I give birth, I dermoplast tip to tail. I mean, the whole thing.

• 1:00:31Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:00:32Kylie Kelce?

  And then.

• 1:00:33Speaker 02

  That's a hot, that's a hot tip.

• 1:00:35Kylie Kelce?

  Whatever I need to do.

• 1:00:35Speaker 02

  I like that. Cuz I only did it afterwards, but you're so right. Can't you still smell it, too? Like, you know the smell.

• 1:00:43Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 1:00:43Speaker 02

  If I smelled that anywhere, I would know what that is.

• 1:00:46Kylie Kelce?

  A thousand percent.

• 1:00:47Speaker 02

  It's like a mix between Vicks VapoRub and Fabreeze.

• 1:00:50Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. It's horrific. Yeah. Yeah, dermoplast is my recommendation for peeing after.

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  Mine is the, um, the water bottle that we give you.

• 1:00:59Kylie Kelce?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  To do it with your stream. So, it's kind of diluting your stream of pee.

• 1:01:05Kylie Kelce?

  That makes so much sense.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  So, it's not as stingy.

• 1:01:08Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  You know? But make sure it's, like, kind of warm. Well, not spicy hot or anything, but, you know, to where it's not shocking you.

• 1:01:16Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, warm is the key. Warm feels like, almost like it matches the temperature.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:01:21Kylie Kelce?

  It's like, it provides a lot of relief. Now, from VT Honey, "How can those of us not directly involved help improve Black maternal mortality?"

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  I love this question.

• 1:01:33Kylie Kelce?

  I saw, you did a recent video discussing this.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:36Kylie Kelce?

  I feel like this, in the situation that we are in, being white women, is really important to discuss as much as we possibly can.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  For sure. And I think that, for me specifically, I have the honor of being able to, like, go talk at conferences and stuff. And I really want to, now this person asking for them, I'm gonna talk about nurses, and then I'll talk about them. So, um, as I'm teaching, like, the new, uh, generation of nurses coming up, it's one of the first things that I teach them as they are orienting with me. Because it took me going through, like, all of orientation, and then also caring for Black women, who were the ones to tell me about the history of gynecology and, like, all of this stuff. So, I think for nurses, it's twofold. It's learning about, um, the history of

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  gynecology and how that still affects us today, which, by the way, there was an evil man named James Marion Sims, who would, uh, use Black women's bodies to, against their will, obviously, uh, to advance his scientific whatever. So, so much we know about gynecology is because of those women who had no choice. And, like, the effects that that has to have on our, on our medical system today. And then also, listen to Black women. Listen to Black women. Listen, listen when they.

• 1:03:01Kylie Kelce?

  You think it's that simple.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  Right. Did you know that eighty percent of all of the, uh, like, maternal mortality deaths are preventable? Isn't that so devastating? But also, it's devastating, but also hopeful. Because if we can really get into the prevention part, then we have a chance of making it better.

• 1:03:20Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  Um, but listening to Black women, learning, and then for, for nurses specifically, or anyone who works in healthcare, the biggest thing that I tell them is to stop getting defensive if a patient doesn't trust you. You know? I am not a trustworthy person to them right off the bat, you know? And I don't want them to trust me right off the bat. I want them to be suspicious of me. I want them to, uh, question what I'm doing. Cuz I always wanna make sure that I'm explaining everything the way that I should. I wanna make sure that, um, that they understand what is happening to their bodies and, you know, how, how can I be that person for them? And then also, if you are around a Black woman who, who you feel is not being heard,

• 1:04:05Speaker 02

  that you intervene in that situation and help them be heard.

• 1:04:09Kylie Kelce?

  Sure. I do think that it is so interesting that this is, that the statistics are as egregious as they are, and that it is not discussed more. And it really is as simple as, like, even if you wanna boil it down to, as women, women intuition is a real thing. That's why, that's why we, like, it's a term.

• 1:04:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:32Kylie Kelce?

  Mother's intuition is a real thing. And so, for you to hear a Black woman trying to advocate for herself or express pain or discomfort or a problem, and not only are you not hearing her, but you're not listening, and you're not believing, that is, like, you are part of the problem.

• 1:04:51Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:04:51Kylie Kelce?

  And you, your suggestion of, like, don't get defensive.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:04:56Kylie Kelce?

  Let's just believe her.

• 1:04:58Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:04:58Kylie Kelce?

  Let's believe her and see if we can solve the problem.

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's absolutely not about you.

• 1:05:02Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  And one of the things that I do for every single patient that I take care of is I give them promises. So, like, "I promise to be your advocate. I promise to listen and believe you." That's the second one. So, I'm glad that you said, "Listen and believe." Um, "I promise to never keep secrets from you." Cuz a lot of nurses don't wanna scare people, you know, like, "Hey, if I'm worried about something." But if I'm worried about something, you should know.

• 1:05:21Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  What the situation is. Like, it's your body, your baby. Uh, but all of the promises that I give my patients came from me taking care of somebody who needed that promise. And so many of those patients were Black women who needed me to advocate for them in those situations.

• 1:05:35Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. Well, thank you for having those conversations. I will, and can, would love to, and will continue to amplify those messages because.

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:46Kylie Kelce?

  If you're gonna say, I'm happy to reshare and make sure that someone who is a medical professional, who has the knowledge to be able to advocate for women in the way that they need to, that I can help spread that message as best as I can. So, thank you for talking about it today.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Thank you. Absolutely.

• 1:06:02Kylie Kelce?

  Um, that's it for what to expect when you've already expected. Thank you for being our expert today. If you want even more of your questions answered, I highly recommend Jen's book, Birth Vibes. Um, if there's one takeaway that you hope people get from the book, what would it be?

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  That.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a little bit complicated, but you can prepare your entire pregnancy for a birth that you hope to have, and then something goes different. So there are so many things that you can plan for that are not likely to change, you know? You may come in and you wanted to have intermittent fetal monitoring, like you didn't want your baby to be, you didn't want to have the straps on you all the time. What if you come in and your baby's not really moving that much? Like you may need that, that extra monitoring. So how can we hold tight to your values about why maybe you didn't want that? Maybe it's because you wanted to move around. If I, if I know that you're now having to have continuous monitoring and you want to move around, girl, we gonna be moving. We gonna be moving and grooving. Okay?

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  So it's about holding tight to the values that are important to you throughout your birthing process so that you're not losing the essence of who you are in that process. Cause it'd be super, uh, like not very personalized sometimes and you can kind of feel like you're just another, another person have a baby, you know? Right. But I want it to be a beautiful transformative experience, even if things go different than you thought.

• 1:07:25Kylie Kelce?

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• 1:08:09Kylie Kelce?

  turd on your kitchen floor really puts things into perspective. And it does get easier with every kid because they see the older kids doing it and they want to be like their sisters. It's a potty party. And I've also learned my go-to when my daughter's gotta go is pull-up training pants. We've been using them since Wyatt started potty training. And now Pull-Ups has another reason I will always be a fan. They just introduced the new Learning Layer and I'm all about this. It's designed to help kids learn the difference between feeling wet and dry. I use the Learning Layer Pull-Ups overnight with Bennett. She's the first one that I feel fairly confident that as a three-year-old, she's staying dry all night long. That's

• 1:08:50Kylie Kelce?

  really exciting. But if there's ever an accident, again, Pull-Ups is there to save the day. Cause I don't want to do a full bed change in the middle of the night. Plus it's progress without the stress of the mess. It gives my tiny humans big kid confidence while I get the peace of mind of up to 100% leak-free protection. You can buy the new Pull-Ups with Learning Layer now, designed to help kids learn wet from dry.

• 1:09:13Speaker 07

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• 1:09:41Kylie Kelce?

  Now switching gears here, um, there is one more clip of yours I wanted to play today, both because I too talk about having a fat ass. Um, yeah, talk about a pivot.

• 1:09:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:52Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, I also want to get into something you've been outspoken about. Let's see it, Queen Emma.

• 1:09:56Speaker 02

  The text on screen says, me crying for weeks about a man I was loyal to for 15 years who wanted everyone but me. And then you remember, I'm a number one New York Times bestselling author with the fattest ass. Three peach emojis. No true words.

• 1:10:12Kylie Kelce?

  Have ever been spoken. Um, before we get into it, a moment for the fat ass.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  A moment.

• 1:10:19Kylie Kelce?

  I figured. I knew it. I, what a team player, honestly. Okay. The search on this TikTok being Jen Hamilton, big old truck is taking me out. Now, in all seriousness, you have talked a lot about your separation on social media.

• 1:10:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:40Kylie Kelce?

  And turned your story into so much good. Um, for anyone who's listening who doesn't know, would you be comfortable sharing what happened?

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  You want the TLDR? Let's get into it.

• 1:10:49Kylie Kelce?

  Let's get it.

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  Okay. So, uh, I have, I had only ever been with one person my whole life, which was this guy. And, uh, we were together since 2012. Um, and a little bit complicated because I was a Virginia.

• 1:11:09Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 1:11:09Speaker 02

  Okay. You understand what I'm saying? And, uh, then got pregnant. It's like virgin, pregnant. Okay?

• 1:11:16Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  So that was hard. And then got married at five months pregnant and then was with him ever since. I found out about some nefarious things that the man was doing behind my back.

• 1:11:28Kylie Kelce?

  Extracurricular activities.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  Extracurricular activities with a woman, uh, 21 years older than me. And so that was confusing. Yes.

• 1:11:38Kylie Kelce?

  You know, I just blacked out. I'm so sorry.

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it was like.

• 1:11:43Kylie Kelce?

  Just for clarity, 21 years older.

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like had grandchildren.

• 1:11:52Kylie Kelce?

  No, I really think I just blacked out.

• 1:11:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can black out.

• 1:11:55Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  Um, and so that was, that was a surprise to you, girl. Your girl was bamboozled. The bam was boozled. Okay?

• 1:12:03Kylie Kelce?

  You, there, you.

• 1:12:05Speaker 02

  But see, I was working. Like I, I was, I was busy.

• 1:12:11Kylie Kelce?

  I actually couldn't be bothered with your bullshit.

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  Right. So I, uh.

• 1:12:16Kylie Kelce?

  I was busy. Okay, go ahead.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  I found all this out and then, um, yeah. So I had this, these moments of like, what's wrong with me? Like, why me? And I did that for like a month.

• 1:12:32Kylie Kelce?

  May I remind you of your fat ass?

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Thank you. You can always remind me of that.

• 1:12:38Kylie Kelce?

  What are you talking about?

• 1:12:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I cried for like a month and then there was a day that I woke up and I really think it had to do with, okay, I was, I know I can't really get into this position. I was face down, ass up and not in a good way on my bed. Okay. Just being sad, girl. You know, just cry, cry, cry. And my, my, my olfactory nerve in my nose was like, it smells like him. You know, like his ass was here.

• 1:13:07Kylie Kelce?

  Yuck.

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  You know? And I called my mom. I was like, I need new sheets right the second. So my mom and dad came and picked me and my kids up and we went up and we found some pink sheets. And then I invited all of my friends from work over and we burned my bed sheets, which I feel like was such a, such a moment.

• 1:13:25Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:26Speaker 02

  It was such a good time. And it was, it was the moment that I needed to be like, okay, this has not happened to me. Right? I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be the victim in this. This is happening for me. Right? It needed to be as bad as it was in order for me to leave because I forgave so freaking much in the marriage. So, um, it was like the push that I needed to be free.

• 1:13:49Kylie Kelce?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  And so since then, life has, life has opened up, you know? So I, I think that every, every girl needs to find that, like their self-worth within themselves and not have to tie it to whether or not their husband is not cheating on that with the, with the grandmother, you know? No offense to grandmothers, by the way. I want to make sure that that is very clear.

• 1:14:15Kylie Kelce?

  Offense to that grandmother.

• 1:14:16Speaker 02

  That one in just in particular.

• 1:14:18Kylie Kelce?

  Let me be clear. Offense to her.

• 1:14:19Speaker 02

  Yes. Cause she said she knew all about me.

• 1:14:22Kylie Kelce?

  Of course she did.

• 1:14:23Speaker 02

  She said.

• 1:14:24Kylie Kelce?

  You didn't have to tell me that I already knew that.

• 1:14:26Speaker 02

  She did not know that I had so many followers. That was the quote that I got. Yeah.

• 1:14:32Kylie Kelce?

  So how'd you, how'd you find out?

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  Um, I found out.

• 1:14:35Kylie Kelce?

  Did somebody tell you? Did you find it? Did you see it?

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  You know, we were talking about the intuition thing, you know?

• 1:14:40Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, because it's real.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. We broke up because I had found like a secret TikTok account where he was like, you know, doing what normal people do, like buying nudes and stuff. So.

• 1:14:50Kylie Kelce?

  Naturally.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  Naturally. Um, and so I was like, no, I'm not doing this anymore. Kicked him out. And then, um, in the time afterwards, it was just like some, he would like be weird about talking about stuff or telling me stuff. And I was like, if you don't tell me right the second what I'm, what I don't know, I know people. I did, I did get a little, a little thready, but not thready and like, I'm gonna fuck you up. But like thready is like, I will find out.

• 1:15:18Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:18Speaker 02

  So you might as well just tell me.

• 1:15:20Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:20Speaker 02

  And, uh, he told me.

• 1:15:22Kylie Kelce?

  Straight up?

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. And then she called me.

• 1:15:25Kylie Kelce?

  No, she didn't.

• 1:15:26Speaker 02

  Swear to God. Yes.

• 1:15:28Kylie Kelce?

  What'd you say?

• 1:15:29Speaker 02

  Um, it was a long conversation. I did get a little snarky, but I, I feel like I kept my composure pretty good.

• 1:15:36Kylie Kelce?

  The fact that you just said, I did get a little snarky.

• 1:15:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:40Kylie Kelce?

  So you did or did not tell her to go fuck herself?

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  No, I didn't say that. Uh, but there were, there were words. So, and you know what? I wish him all the best. I, I hope he finds what he's looking for.

• 1:15:57Kylie Kelce?

  I feel sad that you had someone in your life, someone who was supposed to be your life partner.

• 1:16:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:03Kylie Kelce?

  Who made you feel like you were anything less than.

• 1:16:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:06Kylie Kelce?

  When you are a whole ass fucking meal.

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  And since we're being real.

• 1:16:10Kylie Kelce?

  Not even a snack.

• 1:16:11Speaker 02

  I'll be real. Like I, I told you I was a Virginia, got pregnant.

• 1:16:17Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 1:16:17Speaker 02

  I was not, uh, how do I put this? Pursued in any physical way, really. You know what I'm saying? So like.

• 1:16:25Kylie Kelce?

  By your spouse.

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like I would initiate and then be turned down, but you can only be turned down so much before you're like.

• 1:16:32Kylie Kelce?

  I'll stop asking.

• 1:16:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. So that part of my life, I kind of just felt like this is my, this is my, my lot in life. Like.

• 1:16:41Kylie Kelce?

  This is your fate.

• 1:16:42Speaker 02

  As a good wife, I'm just, you know, I will, I will tamper down my own.

• 1:16:48Kylie Kelce?

  Very human needs, you know, that we all have.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:52Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, in order to make sure that he didn't feel bad, which is hilarious now.

• 1:16:58Speaker 02

  Hindsight.

• 1:16:58Kylie Kelce?

  You know, hindsight, because he had, he had all those feelings, just not for me, you know? Which makes it very clear that like, I'm excited for the second part of my life where I, do you know that boys like me? Like that is wild. Hey Jen, I hate to break it to you. I think it's gonna be like a men, women, everybody.

• 1:17:17Speaker 02

  I get so many offers for, to be gay and I would love that. I just don't have the.

• 1:17:22Kylie Kelce?

  We weren't lucky enough to be dealt those cards, guys.

• 1:17:25Speaker 02

  I would love to have a software update. I think that's what I need because it's just not, it's not in there. And I wish it was.

• 1:17:33Kylie Kelce?

  I love that you know.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. I want a wife.

• 1:17:39Kylie Kelce?

  I love that you know now.

• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:43Kylie Kelce?

  That men would look at you, like bare, like bare minimum, we're talking completely vain here, would look at you and be like, goddamn.

• 1:17:51Speaker 02

  Oh, well, thanks.

• 1:17:53Kylie Kelce?

  But then on top of that, like for someone to learn your personality, to get to know you, to hear your wit, to hear your humor, to hear your intelligence, like all of those things, you're fucking right, men are attracted to you. Cut that out.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:05Kylie Kelce?

  You ever feel down yourself, you give me a call.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  Okay, I will.

• 1:18:08Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, I'll talk you up.

• 1:18:09Speaker 02

  I can get your number after this.

• 1:18:10Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely. Now, you've turned this whole thing into a positive for women everywhere. You did not stop it pulling yourself out of the trenches. You're pulling everybody out of the trenches.

• 1:18:19Speaker 02

  Trying to.

• 1:18:19Kylie Kelce?

  By raising a lot of money for women going through difficult transitions and rebuilding their lives. How much money did you end up raising?

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  Over $200,000.

• 1:18:28Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, yeah, you did.

• 1:18:29Speaker 02

  And it's gonna go straight to like nonprofits that help women do that.

• 1:18:34Kylie Kelce?

  Amazing.

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  Some men, right? Cause but it's overwhelmingly women. So whenever I say women, I mean, you know, the girls, girls, the, you know.

• 1:18:43Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 1:18:43Speaker 02

  I feel like sometimes guys can be girls too, like one of the girls, you know?

• 1:18:47Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely.

• 1:18:47Speaker 02

  And we can be a part of a club where we go through hard stuff together, you know? And I'm also trying to get North Carolina divorce law changed. Cause it's fucking bullshit.

• 1:18:56Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, yeah, can you explain this to me? Cause I did see you talking about this.

• 1:19:01Kylie Kelce?

  You must be separate, legally separated for one year before you can file for divorce in the state of North Carolina?

• 1:19:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:19:08Kylie Kelce?

  Bullshit.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  So you can be totally not even with your person for a full year. And then that other person can say, when it's time to file for divorce, they can say like, oh, I actually spent the night with her two weeks ago, starts the timer over.

• 1:19:26Kylie Kelce?

  I'm sorry, what?

• 1:19:27Speaker 02

  Yep. I have a friend, Woodson Bradley, who's the senator, who's trying to push this through. It took her divorce six years, took six years to divorce from her person. I also have another friend who separated from her husband.

• 1:19:45Kylie Kelce?

  I can't close my mouth.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:19:47Kylie Kelce?

  I just realized how wide it was open.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  Separated from her husband, naturally started like dating, you know, on her own. Her husband got video footage that she went on a date. Her public adultery trial is next year.

• 1:20:07Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:20:07Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy?

• 1:20:09Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:20:10Speaker 02

  You wanna know another crazy thing?

• 1:20:11Kylie Kelce?

  I don't know, do I?

• 1:20:13Speaker 02

  I know. Let's say.

• 1:20:15Kylie Kelce?

  Is there smoke coming off my head?

• 1:20:17Speaker 02

  Let's say that hypothetically, this would never happen because I have an IUD and I don't want this. But let's say that hypothetically, in the next year, I fall in love with somebody and get pregnant. I am very fertile, so it is a chance, you know? But guess who's the dad on the birth certificate automatically?

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  The ex.

• 1:20:40Kylie Kelce?

  You're fucking kidding.

• 1:20:41Speaker 02

  As long as you are still legally married, the, it's the law of assumption that even if you haven't seen him in the full year, that your ex is the, is the legal father.

• 1:20:53Kylie Kelce?

  What you guys got going on down there?

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy?

• 1:20:55Kylie Kelce?

  What's happening down there?

• 1:20:57Speaker 02

  It hasn't been changed since 1931. And the divorce law, whenever they were arguing to have this one year separation or whatever, the argument on the floor, when they were talking about this, was to give her time to come to her senses.

• 1:21:15Kylie Kelce?

  Hmm. So you're, you're telling me that if a woman needs out of a marriage because she is being, like experiencing domestic violence, they don't have exceptions?

• 1:21:28Speaker 02

  There's no exceptions for domestic violence. They have to stay, and a time when a woman is leaving is the most dangerous of her life. And so to keep.

• 1:21:37Kylie Kelce?

  The expectation is that the lash out will happen at its worst.

• 1:21:40Speaker 02

  Exactly. So why would we keep women, I'm saying women, but you know what I mean? Why would we keep them tied to somebody who is a danger to them? That doesn't make any sense. Like let them, let them leave.

• 1:21:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:55Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:21:57Kylie Kelce?

  Let me, let me know. So let me know.

• 1:22:00Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 1:22:01Kylie Kelce?

  Last thing, like I mentioned earlier, that I love to ask all of my fellow mom guests, what is the best piece of motherhood advice that you have ever received?

• 1:22:13Speaker 02

  I'm gonna bring it to breastfeeding because man, I thought that the baby just knows.

• 1:22:23Kylie Kelce?

  Figured it out.

• 1:22:23Speaker 02

  That we both have some universal knowledge that is downloaded in the time that it's needed. Not girl.

• 1:22:31Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 1:22:31Speaker 02

  That's wild, it's a wild experience. Cause y'all both don't know what you're doing, you know? And you just gotta figure it out, so.

• 1:22:37Kylie Kelce?

  And you just met, by the way.

• 1:22:39Speaker 02

  And there are gonna be so many people who have opinions about your boobs that didn't before.

• 1:22:44Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:45Speaker 02

  And they'll tell you. So I tell people a few things. Number one, only take in the advice that makes sense to you. If it doesn't make sense to you, let it go. Number two, let yourself have, if breastfeeding is important to you, okay? If it's like super important, give yourself like two weeks, which I know sounds like a long time. But usually within that timeframe, you kinda get it together, if you're, if you're gonna get it together. Seek out lactation consultants that are gonna help you, not, you know, your Aunt Martha or whatever.

• 1:23:16Kylie Kelce?

  Cause it's been a minute since Aunt Martha did that.

• 1:23:19Speaker 02

  Exactly. And maybe Aunt Martha had real hungry babies that just like latched on, cool, you know?

• 1:23:24Kylie Kelce?

  That is crazy.

• 1:23:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:26Kylie Kelce?

  How the difference in babies alone.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I had two very different babies, you know? And then when your milk comes in, that's wild.

• 1:23:35Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:35Speaker 02

  I was, I was over a popcorn bowl, just.

• 1:23:39Kylie Kelce?

  Leaking milk?

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, and you have like all these different.

• 1:23:42Kylie Kelce?

  And it's, and it's.

• 1:23:43Speaker 02

  Like seven, seven streams.

• 1:23:46Kylie Kelce?

  For those of you who don't know, when milk comes out of your boobs, it is not one hole. There's a couple of different streams and they're all crossing paths.

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:23:57Kylie Kelce?

  And you can't, sometimes you can't catch it fast enough.

• 1:24:00Speaker 02

  I just milked myself into a popcorn bowl.

• 1:24:02Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, you did.

• 1:24:04Speaker 02

  Just until, like, cause the engorgement's crazy.

• 1:24:08Kylie Kelce?

  See, I'm a bare minimum lady.

• 1:24:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:11Kylie Kelce?

  I'm a spare, I'm a bare minimum, just as much as they need.

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  Well, that was nice. Those nice babies did do that to me.

• 1:24:16Kylie Kelce?

  You know, then they, then I can't pump any, I don't have any extra storage. It's you and me every three hours.

• 1:24:22Speaker 02

  Right. After my last baby, he's 10 years old now, so this was a long time ago, but he was seven months old and I had to go to like a conference. So this is the first time that I was gonna be away from him, okay? So if you heard the story, do you know where this is going?

• 1:24:34Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 1:24:36Kylie Kelce?

  I'm worried.

• 1:24:36Speaker 02

  It's about to get wild, buckle up. So I was at this conference and I didn't wanna travel with breast milk. Like I knew I was gonna have to pump, so like I found a mom down there, I was like, who needed breast milk? I was like, please let me just give you this milk. So the second day there, I'm feeling a little something hot on my boob, like the line. And I was like, oh no, I'm getting a clogged duct. And I didn't wanna tell my other friends that I was with, but I ended up having to. I was like, hey, I gotta go back to the room, I gotta milk myself, you know? And so I go back to the room and I'm, I'm pumping, pumping, pumping, and I'm letting down so many times that like weird burning sensation, right?

• 1:25:17Kylie Kelce?

  The pins, fiery pins and needles to your nipples, yeah.

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  Yes. I keep letting down, but it's just backing up further and further and further. I'm just like, this is so awful. I'm in the shower, I'm massaging, I'm doing all the things. And at one point, I'd said to myself, if there was just someone here with a mouth, you know? Cause pumping is different than a mouth.

• 1:25:39Kylie Kelce?

  Very much, not as efficient.

• 1:25:41Speaker 02

  I'm in the shower and I'm looking down.

• 1:25:44Kylie Kelce?

  And you can get there. You could get there. You could get there.

• 1:25:48Speaker 02

  You knew where I was going.

• 1:25:48Kylie Kelce?

  You sucked that right out.

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  I did.

• 1:25:50Kylie Kelce?

  See, I don't have big boobs.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  They were.

• 1:25:53Kylie Kelce?

  Let me be clear, let me be clear.

• 1:25:55Speaker 02

  I had long titties, okay? Roll them up into a sports bra, okay? Like, like a half a cup of Jell-O in the bottom of a Walmart bag.

• 1:26:06Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. Okay.

• 1:26:07Speaker 02

  Like.

• 1:26:08Kylie Kelce?

  Now, when you were, when you were done breastfeeding, was there still Jell-O in the bottom of the bag?

• 1:26:14Speaker 02

  Just small.

• 1:26:16Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:26:16Speaker 02

  Just small.

• 1:26:17Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  There's a picture that.

• 1:26:18Kylie Kelce?

  I would say a skin pancake.

• 1:26:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like way further down.

• 1:26:23Kylie Kelce?

  No, no.

• 1:26:24Speaker 02

  Just like flat.

• 1:26:25Kylie Kelce?

  Mine weren't. There was one point between children where I literally was, of course, on FaceTime with my sister, duh. And I lifted up my shirt and I was like, you will not believe this. And I lifted up my shirt and I put two fingers over my nipple and literally just went, look at it. And she goes, at what? And I said, exactly. There's nothing there.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. I took a picture of myself to see if I needed like a breast lift or something. And nobody needs a breast lift, by the way, but I wanted one. I took a picture of myself and you could see like all this and there was no nipple, no nipple. So I went to go get like a consultation at like a breast surgeon.

• 1:27:07Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 1:27:07Speaker 02

  And I, you know, they have like the gown or whatever. And he gets, he opens a drawer and he gets out his tape measure. And he's like, okay, you can open your drawer, you can open your gown. And so I open my gown, he puts the tape measure back and closes the drawer.

• 1:27:23Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, no.

• 1:27:25Speaker 02

  I know, I was like, you're not even gonna humor me? You're not, it's not even close? He's like, you qualify.

• 1:27:33Speaker 02

  I have some long ass titties, Kylie, it was.

• 1:27:37Kylie Kelce?

  But now you don't.

• 1:27:38Speaker 02

  I got them, I got them, got them suckers jacked up to heaven.

• 1:27:42Kylie Kelce?

  One day.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  Oh, they're so nice. They're so nice.

• 1:27:47Kylie Kelce?

  One day, I've said it, and then I got all these weird DMs of people, doctors, offices being like, we'll do it. And I was like.

• 1:27:55Speaker 02

  I wanna do Kylie Kelce's boobs.

• 1:27:57Kylie Kelce?

  Put them on the banned list. Like I literally, I literally have a list of doctors that reached out after I said something about it on the podcast, because like, I just, I want, just, I just want them put back.

• 1:28:10Speaker 02

  Right, just enough.

• 1:28:11Kylie Kelce?

  Where, where they were.

• 1:28:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:14Kylie Kelce?

  I cannot thank you enough, Jen, for coming to Philadelphia, for chatting.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:18Kylie Kelce?

  For finally getting to meet in person. You can go get her New York Times bestselling book, Birth Vibes, right here. And thank you so much.

• 1:28:28Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:28:29Kylie Kelce?

  This was incredible.

• 1:28:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:31Kylie Kelce?

  And that's it for this episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Jen and Seeru on my YouTube channel, On More Ship Monday. Follow us on social media, at NGLwithKylie for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original brought to you by Invisalign. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in.