Inside the Disastrous New U.S. Security Strategy | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

In this episode, the team breaks down the newly released U. S. National Security Strategy, calling out its dramatic shift away from Europe, democracy promotion, and traditional alliances in favor of a hardline, transactional, Western Hemisphere–first approach. They dive into what this means for Russia, Ukraine, NATO, mass migration, and the growing risk of global power realignment. The conversation also examines Venezuela, Europe’s urgent need to rearm, and whether America is walking away from its role as leader of the free world. Support the show on Patreon:⬇️ https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse Subscribe to our new newsletter!!!! https://teamhousepodcast.kit.com/join New merch, patches, and stickers! ⬇️ https://theteamhouse-shop.fourthwall.com Check out Mick's new podcast here:⬇️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/pub-and-porch-applied-stoicism/id1836955475 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1k3QPmkAMwnGJxMLDwUSSd?si=n6piIu8XRcag1Z0K43A3bQ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCd0Hq6QFk8CoTu5j-VU0Ong Find Mick Mulroy here: Fogbow ⬇️ https://fogbow.com/ Lobo Institute ⬇️ https://www.loboinstitute.org/ Twitter ⬇️ https://x.com/mickmulroy?s=21&t=-Ze3F_Ix2vlJ18KFvORTCA LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-patrick-mulroy-31198b52/ Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/mickmulroy.bsky.social Mick’s publications ⬇️ https://www.loboinstitute.org/publications/publications-of-michael-mick-patrick-mulroy/ Find Andy Milburn here: Twitter ⬇️ https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fandymilburn8 LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmilburn2023 Substack ⬇️ https://amilburn.substack.com/ Andy’s book ⬇️ https://www.amazon.com/When-Tempest-Gathers-Mogadishu-Operations Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/andy-milburn.bsky.social Find Jason Lyons here: LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-lyons-666873316?u Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/bgsilverback73.bsky.social "Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio" 00:00 – Start 01:08 – Why this NSS is a historic break & Monroe Doctrine 2.0 9:20 – From promoting democracy to raw transactional power 18:09 – Russia no longer an “adversary” & what that means for Ukraine 22:55 – Can Europe still rely on America? NATO, decoupling & rearmament 31:08 – Migration, “cultural erasure” & the immigration reality check 35:03 – Middle East reset, Israel downgrade & shifting U. S. forces 44:04 – Venezuela, Western Hemisphere war footing & closing rant on democracy Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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  Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Eyes on Geopolitics. I am Demetri Kontakos. I'm here with Jason Lyons, Mick Mulroy. We're here. Do us a favor, like and subscribe. If you're listening to us on audio, give it rated five stars, subscribe there as well. And if you want to support the show, patreon.com/the team house. Mick has a new podcast, of course, The Pub and the Porch: Applied Stoicism. It's great, comes out every Monday. Check it out. Links are in the description. Jason's links are in the description. Everything and anything you need to know is down in the description or the show notes. So, thank you. All right, guys. Lot happening, as usual. The big news, I think it came out on Friday, was the national security strategy.

• 1:39Speaker 02

  And I dubbed it, and I'm going to trademark this, I'm going to call it the love letter to Putin, or love letter to Vladimir. Incredible stuff. I'm sure, Mick, you've mentioned that you've been talking about it since it's been, since it came out. So, what are your...

• 1:56Speaker 02

  What were your initial thoughts and then after you started going through it, what did you come up with? Did anything change? Where are you at with this?

• 2:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, um, yeah, I've been totally geeking out. I'm not gonna lie about this, not in a good way, but certainly really digging into what this means for the United States and the world because we are the most consequential nation, I think, by us, of course. But the national security strategy for the United States impacts essentially the globe. Where to start? Sea change from the last, really, any, any national security strategy going back to the end of World War II, including the national security strategy we drafted

• 2:44Speaker 03

  in 2017, the first Trump administration, which was very much in line with past national security strategies. This is a complete departure in my estimation. So the, and you, we could talk about this for three episodes, to be frank, even though it's a, you know, what, around 30 pages. The first thing is the reorientation from basically having a major impact globally to a focus that's on the Western Hemisphere. So what they're calling them Monroe Doctrine 2.0 or the Trump corollary. And I'll stop at each section because if not, I'll just be rambling for now.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:29Speaker 03

  That is, you know, it's, it's an allusion to the Monroe Doctrine of, what, 1820? So it's a 19th century doctrine where the United States said, you know, we need to control our backyard. It was predominantly about European powers coming into the Western Hemisphere, and we thought that was a challenge to us. Now it is focused mainly on mass migration. So the, the issue of, and it's called mass migration, so not just illegal immigration, but of course, it's probably mostly illegal and contexts are using it, stopping the flow of narcotics and essentially dominating the Western Hemisphere. So it, and I, and it took some quotes from it.

• 4:17Speaker 03

  So the new national security strategy frames US security as beginning at home in our hemisphere, where threats now move faster than alliances. So that that says, you know, exactly what I just mentioned, that we're focusing on the Western Hemisphere, and we're doing so regardless of any kind of cooperative effort. So it's not based on alliances, it's not trying to develop, you know, countries to be trading partners, etc. You know, we get done away with most of our foreign aid. It is, it is trying to force our agenda on the Western Hemisphere. We can see that Venezuela right now. Right? So I'll stop there because there's a lot more to say about this, but that means, of course,

• 5:03Speaker 03

  much less emphasis on Europe, and we'll get to that, I got that in a whole separate category. Less emphasis and less military power in the Middle East, even after these new security arrangements with Qatar and Saudi Arabia and we're running the, you know, ceasefire in Gaza, but less emphasis on that. Africa's barely mentioned, but it's mostly, you know, economic opportunities that are valuable to the United States, not, not a cohesive like plan to build partnerships and democracies and free market systems and stuff like that. And then Indo-Pacific, it's a little bit more emphasis, probably Colby's influence,

• 5:44Speaker 03

  but also because we still view China as a competitor, Russia, by the way, in the first time ever, is not listed as an adverse adversary in this. But China, it's predominantly based on economic competitions, but it talks about the need to have a substantial military presence. But of course, if we're going to also signal that we're not going to do things like defend Japan and South Korea and the Philippines and all these things, then just having a military force there isn't as consequential as you would think. Because if you're sending a clear signal to China, like you're not going to invade, or we're not going to defend Taiwan, then who cares if we have aircraft carrier strike group out there?

• 6:26Speaker 03

  So I'll stop there, throw it back to you guys, but my first category from this NSS is the Monroe Doctrine 2.0.

• 6:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's it's I mean, it it for lack of a better term, it's gonna be a lonely road if we stick with this. Um, and uh, my fear is how is this going to weaken us? Um, as a nation, because as you said, we are the most consequential um, nation on earth. I believe that as well. Um, but I mean, literally, we're handing this to our allies, our friends, and then turning our backs. Say, here, read this and turning our backs on them. And uh, I fear where down the road, even if twenty twenty eight and beyond, this uh, administration is out of office, that this is gonna take years to repair, if at all. Um, and so that's my big fear.

• 7:25Speaker 02

  I think that's founded. Yeah, I have a couple of questions. So how often does the national security strategy come out? Every year?

• 7:33Speaker 03

  Um, so we did one for the term of the first, and it's usually done once. And that's a good point to make here is, so you got the national security strategy, which is everything, right? So it's diplomacy, economics, um, obviously, security, intelligence. It's it's the big picture. And then from that, and that's what um, Secretary Hegseth is doing at the Reagan uh, foundation this week or this weekend. He's talking about, I don't know if it's completely come up, but the national defense strategy flows from the national security strategy. So that's how the military is going to do its part in this in the national strategy.

• 8:14Speaker 03

  And then from that, the national military strategy, so that's the that's the actual uniform military saying, okay, this is our defense strategy. This is how we're gonna carry it out. So that's what gets down to the nuts and bolts. But that's how it flows, and it's usually done with all those um, every uh, every four years. So every time, yeah.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  Um.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Uh, somebody, maybe I'm a dummy, but uh, somebody explained to me when the Western Hemisphere, outside of illegal immigration, has ever been a place where we have not dominated the area.

• 8:53Speaker 03

  So the original Monroe Doctrine was concerned about European powers and that's just not a concern anymore. If anything now, I think the proponents, and I have to be frank, I know a lot of people that wrote this, uh, involved in it, and they never talked like this before, ever. So I don't know what happened there. Uh, but um, I think the proponents of this plan would say, uh, that China, Russia, Iran, or having, especially in places like Venezuela, are having, uh, too much of an influence and it's right in our backyards and we gotta change that. Um, I don't know why we couldn't, you know, do that as well as still be the leader of the free world.

• 9:35Speaker 03

  Uh, the, the, the leader that Ronald Reagan envisioned, you know, be that, uh, champion of democracies. But that's another clear part of this is that we are not, it's, you know, I, I have some quotes from it. Um, on, uh, how we're basically not going to focus on being that Chinese city on the hill anymore. Uh, that it's gonna be, you know, American prosperity is the foundation of American power. Our policies will prioritize economic returns of our citizens.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're open for business is what it's saying.

• 10:10Speaker 03

  Foreign engagements must demonstrate clear financial benefits to the United States.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Right? So that says, that's, that's, it's, I mean, I'm not saying that we shouldn't look out for our own financial interests, but it has to have a clear benefit or we're not gonna take part.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I feel like the overall national security strategy of the last forty years has been like American interests, right? Uh, what we.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  American interests were believed to also include promoting democracy and civil rights. Yeah, one more quote for you, from the thing, "The United States will pursue peace through strength and advantage, not ideology or moral aspiration." It's hard to believe somebody would put that last three words in a strategy for their own country. Not ideology or moral aspiration. So it, it, I mean.

• 11:05Speaker 03

  The issues that people have, and I think next we should talk about the Europe situation.

• 11:09Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  But is it clearly indicates profit over uh principles.

• 11:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  I guess is the way I put it. And I don't think the US has ever viewed themselves that way. I think we should put our interest first, right? Because I mean, especially our government employees, they work for the people. But our interests should include, and my, I guess, dated view of the world is the promotion of democracies, the promotion of individual civil liberties, free markets. I mean, free markets used to be a core part of conservative political beliefs. It clearly states in this document that that's not true, at least for this administration. It is tariffs as a means of coercion, which is not, which is antithetical to the idea of free markets.

• 12:05Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 12:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, and then, I don't know, I don't think you read that part. It says about Africa, the Africa section says, for far too long, American policy in Africa is focused on providing and later on spreading liberal ideology. So there's that. And then the Latin America one says, they talk about encouraging governments and political parties that broadly align with ours, but we must not overlook governments with different outlooks with whom we have nonetheless shared interests and who want to work with us. That is a really broad and open door to saying, we'll work with the worst of the worst, you know, as long as it gets us what we want. And and people can come back and say, well, you guys were CIA, isn't that what you do? You know, you did all the time?

• 12:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, on a tactical level, yeah, that's what we did. But it was in in the furtherance of our democratic policies, you know, so and it was against those bad guys, you know, so.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 13:07Speaker 04

  It's not an excuse.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  Very good point, Jay, and I think it's clearly stating that they're not so concerned. I mean, one of the things that aid, US aid was supposed to do was help develop the economies of other countries to be trading partners with the United States. It wasn't to keep them in a perpetual state of need, right? But now it's, and that's all gone. Now, it seems to be our policy in Africa is where is the rare earth minerals? And whoever's in charge of that is now our friend? And we'll work with them for the economic benefit. Now, I get it. I mean, it's easy to sound like a complete ideologue and say, you know, but it's a balance, at least the way I view it.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  We want to develop countries to be trading partners so that we don't have complete imbalance economically. That's what causes the mass migration, which is the undercurrent of the entire national security strategy. In fact, this is the first one I can remember where it's specific, it talks about, you know, specific policies of another country like Europe. So Europe is one of the, next to the United States, largest bastions of democracy, right? And it specifically criticizes Europe, challenges the very notion that we're in an alliance with them. It says things like, quote, "internal governance failures."

• 14:34Speaker 03

  It says, "European partners must confront the consequences of uncontrolled migration that strains cohesion and fuels extremists." And they actually use this term, and I didn't write this down, but it's like "cultural erasure."

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I saw that.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  Right? So it's criticizing Europe, not the countries, the despots around the world.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  Again, we already talked about Russia, who has no legitimacy in its elected leadership and specifically invaded a democracy, has deliberately targeted civilians and stole 20,000 children. So we're not going to criticize them, but we are going to criticize Europe for its lax, what we're calling lax, um, migration policies. It's also says the United States will not underwrite Europe, European security indefinitely. Well, the one thing I've mentioned this before, I mean, Europe should have woken up a long time ago that it needed to defend itself and not just rely on the US umbrella. But now it is crystal clear, it's crystal clear that they're actually challenging the future of NATO.

• 15:40Speaker 03

  So Europe needs to, and if I was European, I would start taking my security entirely in my own hands. I wouldn't rely on anything outside. I would develop a comprehensive, integrated European military. And I would be as, as strong as anybody else on the planet. That'd be my plan. And we could get into the how that would affect Ukraine. But right now, I would hope that European leaders are waking up to this. There's no more neutrality. I'd also throw that out and, you know, my beloved homeland, ancestral homeland, um, being part of it is, i- if you're in Europe now, you need to contribute to the overall defense of, uh, your coalition.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  You've got the example of why, right next to you, wage in a war in Europe. Um, which they've already said this week, uh, although they don't want to, they're perfectly ready to go to war with Europe, which if you, if you don't take that as a, another warning in addition to this national security strategy, you have your head in the sand.

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• 20:17Speaker 02

  It's kind of a wild place to be where you have European leaders doing damage control in terms of we're going to stand for democratic institutions and stuff like that, and America isn't. And whether, whatever, you believe it or not, like, America's imperialist, whatever your view might be. The fact that, and Europe's got a lot of problems like any other country, but they're democratic for the most part, right? Like, they are not China, they're not Russia, they are not Iran, which are fucking straight up authoritarian plus, plus, plus countries that are up to no fucking good. The only thing they give a shit about is

• 21:00Speaker 02

  their own regime survival. Putin's throw, has thrown a million-plus people into this meat grinder in Ukraine, doesn't give a fuck about any of them. And it's like unbelievable that an American administration can come out and do something like this. I mean, the writing's been on the wall since they got in. Let's call it a spade a spade. Like, that February meeting in the Oval Office was the launching point. But to actually put it in like hard writing, which is like, this is our actual strategy, is a fucking joke. And when you come out and the, you know, Russian, the Russian government has publicly welcomed the shift, saying the new NSS is largely consistent with Moscow's worldview.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  We should never be consistent with the Kremlin or Moscow's worldview. They're fucking lunatics. Vladimir Putin's a lunatic. That's why I called it Love Letter to Vladimir. Because it's an absolute joke. And the fact is this, like, all this is, NSS is saying is, hey, guys, whoever you are, whether you're an authoritarian, whatever, we're open for business. So we don't give a shit what you guys do, how many people you starve, how many people you kill. We're open for business. If it's in our interest in terms money-wise, like, we're all in. And I don't know if that speaks to whether this is like some late, late-stage muta- uh, you know, mutated capitalism, or what it is. Because, yeah, free markets, it's not free, it's,

• 22:31Speaker 02

  it's who fucking controls shit and has the biggest guns, they can make the rules. There's nothing free about this at all. Make it back to you. Sorry. I blacked out just now. I blacked out.

• 22:43Speaker 03

  So, um, just a direct comparison, I, uh, you know, I, I, this is a quote from the 2017. Uh, Russia is described as a revisionist power, seeking to undermine the US and its allies, and is explicitly labeled as an adversary. I asked our cyber overlords, i.e. AI, um, how was Russia categorized in the 2025 NSS? And its response is, Russia is no longer identified as an adversary, rival, or a threat category at all. That's what AI, when it read it. Um, so, that, you know, do that at your own peril, right?

• 23:26Speaker 03

  Russia would love for the US not to be viewed as even an adversary anymore, yet they're going to do whatever they can to undermine us all around the world. If you, if you go and, um, Ben Conable, a friend of mine, super smart, I used to be at RAND, he, he did a thing, uh, one of his posts talks about all of the terms used against Russia in the 2017 one, and it is, it is what I think most people would think we, uh, view Russia. None of it's in there this time. It is a complete shift. So that, that has to have some consequence. I mean, you're, Ukraine should read that and view that they need to

• 24:05Speaker 03

  basically get Europe more, uh, not only on their side, I think they're obviously on their side, but they need to be their main advocate. Like-

• 24:15Speaker 03

  There if if if we're going to just send special envoy Whitkoff with a pro Russia dictated peace plan to go talk to the people who dictated it, it's not going to amount to anything. It's not going to amount to any ceasefire. It's just a delay and a reason to actually put consequences. So we're not going to do the secondary sanction bill that has overwhelming support in the Senate. We're not going to push for releasing the over $400 billion worth of frozen Russian assets so Ukraine can defend itself. We're not doing these things because Russia agrees to have a meeting next month and then the next month and the next month, even though and they're in shockingly, not shockingly,

• 24:57Speaker 03

  yes, the Russian advances are incremental right now in Ukraine, but the Institute for the Study of War just highlighted that they took more territory in the last four weeks than they did in the previous four weeks.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  Almost 250 square miles, right?

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  I think it was, yeah.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  So the other thing that's attached to this, the consequences of this security strategy is when is Europe going to start talking about where's our red line? Like a real red line? Like, are we going to allow them to take Kiev? I'm not saying they're going to. I think some of the it's overstated how much, but from Russian perspective, I mean, from Europeans perspective, when would they be willing, if they will be willing, to deploy forces to stop an advance that consumes Ukraine? And again, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but you got to talk about this now. And you got to start sending clear messages that if you can't come to an agreement, if

• 25:56Speaker 03

  not, and say hypothetically, Russia takes Ukraine for the rest of history, they will ask, what did all these European leaders do as they clutched their pearls and twiddled their fingers as Russia kept taking incrementally?

• 26:11Speaker 03

  Over parts of Ukraine until it was too late and then what if Russia immediately turns and goes after Moldova? Or another or or a NATO country?

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:24Speaker 03

  We're just gonna clutch our pearls and twiddle our fingers for that?

• 26:29Speaker 02

  I mean, I'll bet money that the US wouldn't do shit to be on at this point. I'm gonna be completely honest. I mean, that's the signal that's coming out of the administration. If they went and took over Estonia, which is probably not that difficult to do. It's a tiny country and God bless them like they're they fucking hate the Russians more than most.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  If they, what would we, what would we do? Would we actually fucking step up? I don't even know. Europe would, sure, but like, would we? I doubt it.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, if you view the the strategy as definitive on the topic. And I would point out, we write strategies sometimes and don't do it. Like, we're always talking about pivoting from the Middle East, for example. It's like, it's like a perpetual thing that people in DC talk about and then, I mean, look, look, and look how engaged we are in the Middle East right now.

• 27:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  But anyway, if this is definitive, then the answer to your question would be Europe needs to do it.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  It is clearly, it's here's some other quotes from. I already read that one.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  I also think while you get that, like, Europe really needs to decouple and like, I know they have a military industrial base. They should really decouple from the American one and be as self-sufficient as humanly possible. I know they do have a really solid one, but you know, our, our stuff is kind of their backstop too, you know, like from engines to F thirty-five to everything. I wouldn't trust America as an ally, gonna be completely, if I'm a European country, if I'm Poland, I'm fucking sketch this shit out. With uh, with what's going on with America, you know, like, I really am. It's or any, any European country. It's like, we can't trust these guys and it's, it's a funny thing.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  Because everyone's tiptoeing around Trump and everyone's trying to get like a great meeting with Trump so like the headlines are good the next couple of days but what is the substantive change that happens after a quote unquote good meeting? Nothing fucking happens, everything stays the same. And now it's in black and white for Europe to see it. That they're not, US is not coming to their backs and it's a fucking joke to be honest. It's like what the fuck we spending a trillion dollars a year for in defense? What? Give me some free healthcare if that's the case. If this is the deal, let's all get free healthcare. And not spend a trillion on defense if we're not gonna fight for or even support uh tyrants invading a democratically, a democ- democracy.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  And Ukraine might be corrupt and I get it like every other country, we can look in the mirror and look at America.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, we got a lot of corruption going on in the United States.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Right. Uh, but the fact is Zelensky was, it was, there's a, it's a democracy.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was elected leader and he's actually more popular than he ever was.

• 29:11Speaker 02

  Right, so.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  It doesn't even matter. I mean, it's, it's not, it's, I mean, he was elected leader, their constitution says um, they can't have an election in the middle of an invasion, right? That makes sense.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  Plus twenty percent of their country's gone, right? Who, does anyone vote there? How does that work? Like what are the logistics?

• 29:28Speaker 03

  And, and, and so we're obsessed about whether uh, Zelensky gets another democratic election and gets reelected when Vladimir Putin hasn't been elected in how many years?

• 29:37Speaker 02

  Right.

• 29:37Speaker 03

  I mean, it's, this is a clear right and wrong, right?

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  Um, just pointing out there's some corruption, apparently that continues in Ukraine is both accurate and irrelevant. Um, I mean, we should do everything we can to make sure the money we provide gets used for the purposes. Um, but there's corruption in the United States. There's congresspeople that are both caught, convicted and pardoned all in, you know, a matter of a few years. And we just kinda look the other way. That has nothing to do with, I think. I think in the past, the United States has viewed itself as that beacon of democracy and leader of the free world. If you don't want to be the leader of the free world, then it's going to be less free, in my estimation. Sure.

• 30:22Speaker 03

  And it's going to leave a vacuum that might not be created by the next champion of freedom and democracy. It might just be overcome by China, who says, great, they're detaching from the world. They're focused on the Western Hemisphere. We're going to dominate not only the Indo-Pacific, but Africa and the Middle East. And then Russia says, great, we'll take Europe.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  And we're over here focused on the Western Hemisphere. Again, I think we should probably pay more attention to the Western Hemisphere. It is in our backyard. But I don't think we're coming at it as benevolent, with benevolent intentions. I think we're coming at it to dominate, right? Right, right, yeah. You know, I call it hemispheric fortification, is what it sounds like. They want to basically force countries to deal with migration. I'm okay with that, but it's going to be done with military. Because the National Defense Strategy, they just created, I think, a Western Hemisphere section of the US Army, right? So it all adjusts. Everything adjusts based on the national strategy,

• 31:30Speaker 03

  the defense strategy, the military strategy. And of course, and I've always advocated for having an appendix to the defense strategy that's for intelligence, right? Especially covert stuff. But either way, it's all going to adjust based on the strategy. Yeah. That's how it works. So if this is actually carried out, we're going to be getting, again, hemispheric fortification. We're going to be going from a more alliance-based to a more transactional-based world. And we are going to get away from promoting democracies, civil rights, etc., and more just totally geared toward economic self-interest of the country. And that's probably going to be for corporations, right?

• 32:15Speaker 03

  No shit. What do you think? US corporations. I mean, I don't know how necessarily the US. Taxpayer.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  You think it's trickling down to like the middle class? Yeah, bullshit. I gotta fucking, yeah, go ahead, sorry.

• 32:28Speaker 04

  No, I'm saying they they're, I mean, they're not stupid. They throw buzzwords into these into the NSS like prosperity. You know, this is about prosperity, but who is that prosper prosperous for who, you know, um?

• 32:41Speaker 02

  The cronies, the orbiters.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  Exactly, but they know along with um, they also threw in that beloved buzzword DEI in there that this is for, you know, to uh root out DEI. Somebody tell me, and I'm guaranteeing I'm gonna get a text or a a message or something. Well, actually, tell me where DEI has um, has been a burden on national security. Give me one instance where it has, but they know if they throw these these buzzwords in there, you know, prosperity on the positive side and DEI on the negative side, it's gonna, number one, it's gonna get people riled back up. And number two, there are people who already support them. It's gonna fortify them. See, this is why he needs to do this. Um, and going back to what Mickey was saying about Russia and uh China,

• 33:28Speaker 04

  um, in the long run, they can afford to abandon the Western Hemisphere. They're whatever they're doing in South America. They can afford to, you know, hey, not a problem, you know, America, we're out of here. As long as you leave us alone in Europe to do what we want and in the Pacific, you know, to do what we want, they they can afford it in the long run.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, that's a huge trade up. That's a massive trade up. Who wouldn't take that, right? Like?

• 33:52Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 33:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a very good point. Um, people should be looking at that very point, Jake, is that I haven't heard it made, but this could be an offer to like basically just to bite up the world.

• 34:04Speaker 04

  Mm hmm. Yep, absolutely. Yeah. And then as far as Europe is concerned, um, you know, we we we just had an incident with them, you know, where they certain countries said, we're gonna stop sharing intel with you. Uh, as far vis a vis uh uh or vis a vis uh South America and Central America are concerned, because we don't agree with what you're doing. Well, now let's shift that to Europe if we cut them off. You know, we still have US citizens that live there who go vacation there, you know, we still have embassies there, things like that. So what says that they get, somebody gets wind of a impending terror attack or something like that and they decide?

• 34:43Speaker 02

  Screw them, you know, they're not, you know, US isn't helping us. So we might hold off on this for a little bit. Until we know for sure that it's going to be an attack, you know, so the ripple effect, the butterfly effect of this is going to be far reaching.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  It is, it is. I think we're going to be talking about this for a long time, especially if we see it play out in, in, in policy.

• 35:04Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Like, I mean, to go to do have this big of a shift. In, in it over any president, right? Over the last since nineteen forty seven. Well, like, for example, European. Europe was a core partner, like the core partner with, with US on security. Um, matters since nineteen forty seven. Right? So this is a complete departure. So if it's a complete departure, that tells me they intend to do it. Right? What's the point of adding like a very controversial, totally changed perspective, even from your first administration and then not do it?

• 35:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Right? So.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  I think it's happening.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  Totally. Uh, Mick, what's, um. What'd you call it? Cultural erasure that's happening, right? That, that's what they mentioned in the NSS in terms of like, uh, mass migration from. Into European countries and our country. Yeah. Why don't we just call it what it is and call it white supremacy, bro? Cause that's what the fuck it is. Let's be real.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 36:01Speaker 02

  Like, oh, they're not Western, they're not Western European. Uh, white people that are coming into these countries. Meanwhile, the only fucking reason America is so prosperous is because of immigration. Let's call a spade a fucking spade here. The reason why we're so, we were, are so popular and have dominated the world the last eighty years. Is because of our immigration. I'm a, my, a child of an immigrant. My dad came from Greece when he was nine. It's what? Cause I'm fucking white. I, I look, I'm white coated. It's all good. A brown guy from fucking Mexico's no bueno. Like this is a joke.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  I mean, I mean, that's a total.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  Sorry, I'm getting anxious about coming back on to talk about this on the news and stuff. Um, yeah, I don't know. Anybody out there has a different definition of cultural erasure?

• 36:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  Uh, you're talking about a culture, you're talking about European culture. Um, people can have, you know, if European culture is democracy, based on individual civil liberties, human rights, freedom of religion, all that stuff, right? You could come from anywhere and be part of that culture, right? Look at America, look at America, right? Um, there is no, uh, skin tone requirement for that. So, but then they're equating migration, so people coming in from other places to the erasure. So, I mean, over to somebody else to explain that they're not talking about, um, a racial group.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:34Speaker 03

  Right?

• 37:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's just incredible how this is just plain as day in our faces in a official US government document that is super important, right? The national security strategy, like, I mean, what are we doing, bro? What do we do? Like, honestly, it's an absolute joke.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  And what is it gonna mean? What is it gonna mean for, uh, actually where the US will push its force around the world?

• 38:06Speaker 02

  Right.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  Does, I mean, right now, obviously, Europe should be.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  The highest bidder.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Just where our economic interest in, or that means, you know, very limited places in Africa and largely working with people, um, who are dictators. It's, uh, Europe, you're on your own. It's, uh, Middle East, even though we just made a lot of commitments, um.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  Um, it's kind of like stabilize yourself. There's also a lot of talk, you know, I do Middle Eastern media, there's a lot of talk about a shift to, from Israel being, um, what was the term they used?

• 38:42Speaker 03

  Exceptional, that wasn't the term, to a partner who needs to deal with his own stuff. I'm kind of, I'm kind of mischaracterizing the way it was termed, but it downgrades Israel is not like the preeminent relationship with the United States. No, just a partner with requirements, right? So that's going to send shockwaves in Israel if they read it that way. And the Arab countries that we're really tight with, who are like, oh, I thought we were doing all these mutual defense agreements and having you guys stage your forces in the Middle East for a reason. You know, like Al Uday, for example, and there's Bahrain in the fifth fleet.

• 39:27Speaker 03

  I don't know, does that mean we're moving them out?

• 39:32Speaker 03

  Will that stabilize the region or will it just become an arms race? Will Iran rebuild its strength? I don't know. So there's consequences.

• 39:42Speaker 04

  I know this is the Middle East, but wasn't there, maybe you sent it, a story about US troops in Romania got pulled out, I think.

• 39:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:52Speaker 04

  And there was no, no announcement, it just happened.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  Yes, yes. I have family members over there who were being told their last, last ones to deploy. Right, so you're already seeing the consequences of the strategy.

• 40:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  And again, you know, and I have seen, I talked to a lot of European national security types. They are standing there like, like Germany's decided they're going to have the baddest army in the best, I mean, in Germany, I mean, in Europe, right? Poland's kicking butt and you're seeing a lot of money go into the military. It's going to take a little while. And again,

• 40:32Speaker 04

  Right.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  They shouldn't have been in this situation. They shouldn't have just said, you know, we got, you know, a big brother here. So we're just going to go ahead and spend money on ourselves and let them cover our defense for the last four decades. But they are doing it and that's good. And I need to do it and they need to just completely take responsibility for their own security and for the advocacy of our Ukraine, I think.

• 40:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, if Europe's not ringing alarm bells, specifically defense economics wise, where they're just like, let's get, we cannot uh count on America as a defense partner, really, from in terms of uh soldiers and alliances to all the way down to the nuts and bolts, literal. They're

• 41:18Speaker 03

  In fact, it specifically says that they, because of migration, that European countries are going to become so non-European that it challenges our belief in their ability to be in NATO.

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Oh shit. Why don't they just, why don't they just goose step and see Kyle real quick? Why don't they just fucking do that?

• 41:40Speaker 03

  Google that on specific, I'll just read, it's thirty-three pages. A lot of stuff people don't read because it's just like a thousand pages of stuff. This is not this is not, you know, complicated. You could read it in half an hour.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  So there's that.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, great. No, I was just feeling really, really good about what's going on here in the leadership in America.

• 42:02Speaker 03

  Conversations about this. I mean, if there's people that want to defend it, you know, I, I obviously think we should control migration and it should be on our uh I do think, you know, it talks about having the strongest military, of course. Yes, I agree with that. Every, I think every strategy said that. But I mean, people that want to support dumping Europe in favor of Russia.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  Go ahead and do it. Jump on TV. You know, I mean, I, I talked to plenty of Republicans that are elected leaders. None remember the stuff that's in this uh strategy, so.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  I mean, you even said it to a lot of the people that were authors of this strategy. Uh probably seven, eight, nine months ago, were not in, not uh in favor or not backing what is being said and what they wrote in the strategy. I think it's the same thing applies for most politicians where they move away and back away from their ideology and what they really believe in because it helps them professionally, like bottom line. We're all human. I get it. We all like the next rung on the ladder. But at some point, the rubber's got to meet the road and you gotta either be like, am I going to be a fucking shill or am I going to stand up for what I believe in?

• 43:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. And if you're not standing up for what you believe in, what's the point?

• 43:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  You might as well just be stay in business and.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  Right.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  You know?

• 43:30Speaker 02

  Be just a scumbag businessman. Yeah.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Or be a good businessman.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  Another option too. But I'd be saying like it's if you're not, you're not going to Congress to promote your ideas.

• 43:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:41Speaker 03

  Right? If you're not going to do that, what's the point? I mean, you're universally disliked. Politicians are, uh, and you know, for the most part, they're not doing anything. They've become just a punditry, uh, and that that's not the intent. It's a, it is the first branch of government, meaning that it's Article One, right? So, um, yes. And, uh, by the way, if you haven't seen the American Revolution by Ken Burns, uh, please do. Uh, I'll plug it every time until I think everybody that listens to us has watched it. It's excellent. Um, but it really does go through how we developed our, you know, system of governance and

• 44:22Speaker 03

  the legislature, uh, who during the Revolutionary War was essentially running the show, right? Cause there was no precedent. The Continental Congress was running the show through its general.

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• 46:25Speaker 03

  Washington, right? So they're supposed to have a lot more say in everything, especially in matters of war and peace.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, they are abdicating their responsibility completely.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  And I'm a part of this group called the Vandenberg Coalition, which is, it's nonpartisan, but the whole point, it comes from a quote from Senator Vandenberg that says, "Politics is supposed to stop at the water's edge," right? So we should have a uniform, like, national strategy that incorporates, you know, both sides of the political spectrum. Because the other thing that could happen here is such a deviation that it lasts for three years. And then somebody else comes in, whether it's a more traditional Reagan-type Republican or Democrat, and that's all gone. So everything that we headed down one direction, whether you agreed with the direction or not, is just going to do the drastic back

• 47:22Speaker 03

  and forth. The way to try to stop that is to have that dialogue, potentially in the Foreign Relations Committee, in the House and Senate, with the White House, to talk about, you know, where we should go as a nation. So we have a long-term projected strategy that we can actually compete with strategies of China, et cetera, who have a very long view. We, uh, we don't really have that luxury, but we are making it such that this could be, you know, four years from now, nobody's talking about Monroe 2.0, Dr. 2.0, right? Nobody.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  Also, I feel like what would help probably not hurt is gutting the National Security Council. I feel like that's probably a move that would have helped uh find a succinct policy when it comes to specific areas of the world.

• 48:09Speaker 03

  That's where it's supposed to be developed, in the National uh NSC, yeah, National Council.

• 48:16Speaker 03

  And then it comes down and then we we at the Pentagon turn it into defense strategy and the military strategy. So we'll see within as this comes down, it might already be happening, we'll start seeing force redeployments.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe maybe closing some diplomatic posts. I mean, that it's it's a national strategy, so everybody should adjust to it. So if we say we don't care about X region, then we should have less diplomatic um missions there, less personnel in those missions, less military deployments there, potentially collect less intelligence there. Right? It's all based on the national strategy.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  Wild. Yeah, I can see totally like embassies closing in and around Europe, imagine, you know, like all all those big money donors who, you know, who get the ambassadorships in the cush places, you're gonna have to look for some other work, but that probably just becomes, you know, Secretary of Defense or something. You know, get a bigger job. So I'm being spicy today, guys. I'm sorry because this national security strategy is a fucking joke. Uh, it's real clear, especially when it comes to Russia, like and Ukraine, what's going on, it's like not only, I mean, I don't understand why we kowtow to everything Russia says and we copy and paste their fucking peace plan.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  The fact that we're not outwardly and openly fucking with them in any possible way we can, and by whether it's intelligence sharing, weapons, tomahawks, we went from you uh Zelensky getting tomahawks in August to now like they he had a deadline, another bullshit deadline, that he wasn't gonna get any intelligence sharing or anything to make this bullshit peace deal by Thanksgiving.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  This is as clear as day, it doesn't matter if you're right, left, center, it doesn't matter, like what's going on with Russia, Putin is a dictator. He is invading a democratic country. This should be easy, guys, you know, I don't know.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  Sending the wrong message, but it's definitely in line with the national security strategy that came out on Thursday night.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  So we'll obviously keep an eye on this. Um, I mean, everything else is still going on. We're still, you know, blowing people up in the Caribbean. Uh, which is great. And I, in my, I'm going all in, in my opinion, completely illegal. Uh, so we're still in a kind of holding pattern when it comes to like strikes on Venezuela, inside of Venezuela. Uh, we'll see what happens there. Obviously we're monitoring this as it comes. So we'll keep you guys updated. Um,

• 50:57Speaker 02

  things are still fucked up around the world. So don't worry. We'll keep an eye on it. Uh, is anything else you guys want to hit on?

• 51:02Speaker 03

  Well, I do think, you know, we're, we're going to have to see what happens in Venezuela because you can't just keep this level of military capacity. Uh, in the Caribbean.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:12Speaker 03

  Costs a lot. Um, so is it going, it is clearly aimed toward regime change, right? So, um, you don't need the level of firepower to do the drug interdiction. So we're going to have to see what comes of it. I mean, that's, you know, we've seen the reports on the negotiations. I assume my old organization CIA is doing that. I don't know. But I'm trying to get him to leave, right? That would be great. It'd be great for Venezuela, but who's going to come next, you know?

• 51:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. Didn't he offer to leave if he would get like him and a hundred of his associates amnesty and stuff like that? And then put in power his vice president until elections were held and we said no to that. Um, frankly, I don't give a fuck who runs Venezuela. I'm going to be completely honest, guys. Uh, I think we're just cherry picking a conflict to have. Uh, and maybe just to highlight and push the national security strategy. Uh, gonna be completely honest because we're not interdicting many fucking drugs. Let's be honest. I can get cocaine really easy around here. So who are we fuck? And there's no fentanyl coming from Venezuela. So.

• 52:16Speaker 03

  Right. 90% of fentanyl comes from Mexico.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  And like you said, like, is this just a regime change? There's no actual like, what are we doing here? This is the reason why we're doing X, Y, and Z.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  We might be seeing the implementation of the western hemisphere part of the national security strategy before the strategy actually came out.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Yeah. This is it. So who's next? Who who who's who else are we talking about? We're talking about Colombia, apparently?

• 52:45Speaker 02

  Colombia and Mexico, right?

• 52:47Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Mexico, who's a huge trading partner, you know, when we talk about free markets and stuff, there's a reason why things are relatively inexpensive. Relatively inexpensive is because a lot of the stuff and manufacturing happens in Mexico, right? Uh, they are a legitimate partner and I don't know if tearing up their area in terms of a war is really good for their economy. And what will that do with my for migration in terms of people from Mexico coming to the America?

• 53:15Speaker 02

  I don't I'm not an expert, but I feel like it would probably bump it up pretty pretty high. Uh,

• 53:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  And let's not forget people from South and Central America, the people who run this fucking economy. They're the backbone of it. Sorry, I'm done. I'm off. I'm off. I'm off my lefty, my lefty pulpit.

• 53:32Speaker 02

  Uh, all right. As usual, a pleasure. I didn't expect to get so worked up, but Mick Mick was a little worked up, so he got me going. I was feeling mixed vibes and I was like, all right, I'm gonna push it to fuck it.

• 53:44Speaker 03

  Uh, this is.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  It's ridiculous.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  We're gonna be talking about this for a long time.

• 53:49Speaker 02

  Mick, this is your life life's work. Jason too, right? Andy Milburn, everybody who's on this show, right? This is you guys served for decades.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  Not because you guys want to see American power projected everywhere and everything like that. It's because we represent democracy, like it or not, we do. I don't give a shit about the tankies out there who think we're imperialists, all this bullshit.

• 54:13Speaker 02

  When a dictator invades a democratic country, it's real easy. What what what side you need to stand on? And the fact that the United States administration is not doing that is a fucking joke. And it's a disappointment and it's un-American, frankly.

• 54:33Speaker 04

  I read a comment on social media that said, uh, American men and women died fighting communism since the end of World War Two. And now we're just get we're just basically spitting in the face of those people that lost their lives.

• 54:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, I remember Russia was a bad guy as of like Wednesday.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, there are bodies. It's amazing how they there was nothing even said about Russia in the NSS.

• 55:01Speaker 03

  Oh, it's in there, but it's it's like you gotta work to stabilize the region and yeah, but it's it's not identified as an adversary. It's when they're clearly an adversary. I mean, they're almost jumping up and down, holding up their hands and I want to be an adversary to the United States. They they literally, I think, sometimes you say, what does the United States wants to do in this region? Okay, let's do the opposite. It's literally just to be the villain for us. And then we go, ah, nah, you're not, you're not.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  And like they they fucking went and zapped a bunch of our diplomats and officers, Mark P being one of them, right? Like they're outwardly and offensively going after our people. It's time for us to start doing that to them.

• 55:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  We gotta peepee whack them. They gotta get peepee whacked, for lack of a better term. I know that's not high, you know. Diplomatic. Highbrow, I think it is. Bad visual. Yeah.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  All right, guys.

• 55:54Speaker 04

  I think Mick said this, sorry, last thing, I think Mick said this a while back. It's not like if we decide we're gonna go all in with Russia and, you know, we're gonna make peace with Russia and everything is great with Russia, that they're all of a sudden gonna say, okay, we're gonna match that, you know, one for one. No, they're gonna take that and be like, you idiots. And then stab us right in the back and go do what was it they were doing anyway?

• 56:18Speaker 03

  Yep, absolutely. That's what they've proven over and over and over again.

• 56:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. All right, guys, we'll keep an eye on, as always, check out Mick's podcast, The Pub on the Porch, Applied Stoicism, that link's in the description. Jason's links are in the description, Andy Milburn too, and support the show, patreon.com slash the team house. You get eyes on geopolitics and the team house ad free early. You can ask us questions.

• 56:47Speaker 02

  And you could support the show. So as always, guys, a pleasure. Thank you.

• 56:51Speaker 04

  Thanks, Jents. Take care, everybody.

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  Hey guys, I want to tell all of you today about a new newsletter that we're launching that encompasses both the Team House Podcast, the Eyes On Podcast, and the High Side News Outlet, which I run with Shawn Naylor. The newsletter is going to be once a week, it's going to come into your inbox, and you're going to get the most current podcasts on Eyes On and the Team House, and whatever's topical or current on the High Side. So it's another way for us to get the information out to you, as social media algorithms are pretty iffy, and you never really know what you're going to get. So this is a once-a-week email, it'll slide into your inbox, and it will have, you know, the greatest hits of that week. It's really good, man. I'm checking it out.

• 57:38Jack Murphy?

  The website for it is teamhousepodcast.kit.com/join. Teamhousepodcast.kit.com/join. Go there, and you enter into your email list, or you enter your email into the little thing on the website, and you're good to go. And that'll be it. So we really appreciate your support, and hope you'll consider signing up.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  Where's the link?

• 58:03Jack Murphy?

  The link will also be down in the description, if you're looking for it there. And that's teamhousepodcast.kit, K-I-T, Kilo, India.

• 58:11Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Ashkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 58:26Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 58:37Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you, you're not alone.

• 58:42Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 58:48Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat, it's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today.

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  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:00:29Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:00:40Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:00:45Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:00:51Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat, it's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

• 1:01:11Speaker 00

  ChatGPT for Teens is designed to help teens learn, think critically, and grow their skills. ChatGPT for Teens supports active learning by breaking concepts down rather than giving teens the answer. Study mode helps teens work through problems, and interactive quizzes test their knowledge and provide immediate feedback. Safety protections are on by default, and parental controls offer families additional options like setting study hours and quiet hours. Visit chatgpt.com/parents to learn more.

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  Hi, I'm Jenna Ushkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:02:26Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:02:37Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:02:42Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:02:48Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  ChatGPT for Teens is designed to help teens learn, think critically, and grow their skills. ChatGPT for Teens supports active learning by breaking concepts down rather than giving teens the answer. Study mode helps teens work through problems, and interactive quizzes test their knowledge and provide immediate feedback. Safety protections are on by default, and parental controls offer families additional options like setting study hours and quiet hours. Visit chatgpt.com/parents to learn more.

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  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:04:26Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:04:37Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:04:42Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:04:48Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

• 1:05:08Speaker 00

  ChatGPT for Teens is designed to help teens learn, think critically, and grow their skills. ChatGPT for Teens supports active learning by breaking concepts down rather than giving teens the answer. Study mode helps teens work through problems, and interactive quizzes test their knowledge and provide immediate feedback. Safety protections are on by default, and parental controls offer families additional options like setting study hours and quiet hours. Visit chatgpt.com/parents to learn more.

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• 1:06:09Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:06:23Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:06:34Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:06:39Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:06:45Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today.

• 1:07:05Speaker 00

  ChatGPT for Teens is designed to help teens learn, think critically, and grow their skills. ChatGPT for Teens supports active learning by breaking concepts down. Rather than giving teens the answer, study mode helps teens work through problems, and interactive quizzes test their knowledge and provide immediate feedback. Safety protections are on by default, and parental controls offer families additional options, like setting study hours and quiet hours. Visit chatgpt.com/parents to learn more.

• 1:07:33Speaker 09

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• 1:08:06Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:08:21Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:08:32Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:08:37Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:08:43Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  ChatGPT for Teens is designed to help teens learn, think critically, and grow their skills. ChatGPT for Teens supports active learning by breaking concepts down. Rather than giving teens the answer, study mode helps teens work through problems, and interactive quizzes test their knowledge and provide immediate feedback. Safety protections are on by default, and parental controls offer families additional options, like setting study hours and quiet hours. Visit chatgpt.com/parents to learn more.

• 1:09:30Speaker 09

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• 1:10:04Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:10:18Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:10:29Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:10:35Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:10:40Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today.

• 1:11:00Speaker 00

  ChatGPT for Teens is designed to help teens learn, think critically, and grow their skills. ChatGPT for Teens supports active learning by breaking concepts down rather than giving teens the answer. Study mode helps teens work through problems, and interactive quizzes test their knowledge and provide immediate feedback. Safety protections are on by default, and parental controls offer families additional options like setting study hours and quiet hours. Visit chatgpt.com/parents to learn more.

• 1:11:28Speaker 01

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• 1:12:04Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:12:19Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:12:30Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:12:35Speaker 08

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:12:41Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today.

• 1:13:01Speaker 00

  ChatGPT for Teens is designed to help teens learn, think critically, and grow their skills. ChatGPT for Teens supports active learning by breaking concepts down rather than giving teens the answer. Study mode helps teens work through problems, and interactive quizzes test their knowledge and provide immediate feedback. Safety protections are on by default, and parental controls offer families additional options, like setting study hours and quiet hours. Visit chatgpt.com/parents to learn more.

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• 1:14:00Speaker 10

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• 1:14:13Speaker 11

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