S&P 500 Dives As Trump Hints At Recession | PBD Podcast | Ep. 559

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosick, Tom Ellsworth and Vincent Oshana cover the S&P 500 dropping as Trump hints at a recession, Tucker Carlson calling out Tom Cotton over the JFK files release, Stephen A Smith getting confronted by LeBron James, and Mark Carney replacing Justin Trudeau! ----- 📕 CELEBRATE NATIONAL READING MONTH:https://bit.ly/43xPwPI 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright?

• 0:12Speaker 01

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 0:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a 101?

• 0:17Speaker 02

  My sun's right there.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so we are officially live, episode 559, gang. This is a new set. We got an upgrade. We're at this new set we got here at this house, somewhere offsite. And for those of you that want to see what happened this morning, okay? Adam slept at this house. The crew's been setting up. And guess who was late for setup this morning? His room is behind this wall, right here, okay? If you want to see the clip on Adam waking up late to be here, we've been here ready, waiting for him. Go to Manac, download the app and join the PBD Podcast Circle. Let me give a quick shout out to some of the guys that are members already there. A bunch of guys are responding in the back.

• 1:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Kim Smith, Roke Erwin, Vincent Dillman, I'm not going to get all of you. Jim Kaiser, Sean Ogasian, Organesian, Steve Krucin, Cholinski, Teague Beckian, Mauro, Lardieri, we got a bunch of guys. Mickey Sausage DeAngelis, what a great name. Anyways, go join the circle of PBD Podcast. We communicate throughout the day and the week on the stories we want to talk about. Anyways, let's get into some of the stories that we got here. Trump and Thomas Massey, we, you know, we'll talk about that. It's Trump is not happy with Thomas Massey for not approving it. Thomas Massey responds back with a tweet. There's a ton of people supporting Massey. And there's a ton of people that are saying Massey's getting in the way. We'll give our thoughts on that and what's going on there.

• 1:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Representative Al Green blames discrimination for being censored after disrupting the Trump speech. We'll have that for you as well. Free of Trump has elite law firms in retreat. Law firms are afraid. Has to do a little bit with Soros. Hang tight, we'll come to that's a W H A story. Trump sends letter to Iran on nuclear program. Make a deal or face U.S. military. We'll see what that means and if that threat works. When it comes down to tariffs, guys, there's a lot of stories on tariffs. A lot. China, Mexico. China put a hundred percent tariff on certain products on Canada, which is kind of weird. Tom's got some thoughts on that. And then Commerce Secretary Lutnick emphatically shoots down recession concerns. There's a lot of people talking about potential recessions, especially yesterday after Dow

• 2:35Patrick Bet-David?

  lost. Was it 900 points in a day, Tom? Was it Dow? And apparently Tesla, there's a story of Tesla losing. Is that the accurate number? $700 billion valuation? Or is that just from the market?

• 2:46Tom Ellsworth?

  That's cumulative.

• 2:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Accumulative $700 billion of gains lost. Tesla stock nose dives since the victory. We'll talk about what that really means there. Then we have Democratic frontrunner for 2020. It goes after his own party. Guess who they're talking about? L.A. Times. Mayor Karen Bass, tell me if you're surprised by this, is deleting text messages. She is deleting her text messages. Guess who reported on that story? L.A. Times. Guess who typically defends everything that left us? L.A. Times. L.A. Times has even done with their own mayor. American sympathies for Israelis fall to record low. Paul Fein's. We have Adam here to give us an update on

• 3:30Patrick Bet-David?

  what's going on over there. Hundreds of minorities, including Christians, killed in Syria. When you see these stories devastating, and this happening in a place...

• 3:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Where a lot of me and Vinnie's family Assyrians came from, which we'll, we'll discuss that as well here in a minute. U S makes fresh, fresh push for World Bank to back nuclear power. U S in exploratory talks with D R Congo over mineral deals, rebuilding L A's economic moment of truth. That's an L A time story. Job cuts ready has surged 245% in February on federal government layoffs. Jerome Powell says, don't worry about the, you know, he's not worried too much about what's going on with the job reports that came in. And he's not in a hurry to cut rates, but some people aren't happy about that. Canada, Mark Carney wins race to replace Trudeau as Canada's prime minister. This guy's

• 4:25Patrick Bet-David?

  a former W F guy, former Bank of England governor. Again, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Tesla stock. Bill Maher slams liberal MSNBC obsessive fact checking of Trump. Stephen A. Smith gets his hundred million dollar contract and right after he gets his hundred million dollar contract, gets into a fight with LeBron James. LeBron James walks up to him in the middle of the game. There's a bunch of exchange. I got my thoughts. I know Vinnie does as well. We'll cover that. Disturbing Anna Paulina calls that DOJ silence, urging Bondi to release the Epstein files. Why don't we not know about the Epstein files? A lot of people are not happy about that. Biden uses auto pen signature on many official White House doc. You know what that is? It's like you don't sign it. It's auto pen like,

• 5:08Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, like stamp, like somebody else can sign on behalf of you while you're golfing or while you're in Delaware at the beach, getting some sun. Anyways, that's pretty concerning. Some people are worried about it. There's a video of Biden hugging Melania and a hand goes slightly lower. She gets uncomfortable, moves a step towards Trump. Trump hugs her, asks her what just happened, then whispers something to Biden, then everybody comes in. If you haven't seen this, it's a spectacle. Jasmine, Jasmine Crockett insists it's not a crime to illegally cross the border. Brilliant. Trump warns the rest of Palestinian activists that Columbia will be first of many.

• 5:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And we got a bunch of other stories here. Whoopi Goldberg made some comments on, you know, International Women's Day. And by the way, you won't believe who they had as their guest for International Women's Day. Let me say it again. You will not believe. Who, no, maybe you will believe. Who they had as their guest on International Women's Day. Tucker Carlson calls out one of the senators on a conversation with Cuomo. That's holding back many of the releases of the JFK files, which is kind of weird. And then there was a cyber attack on X. You know, a bunch of other stories we got here that we may go through. All right, before we get into it, guys. March is known as the, uh, uh, Rob, March is known for what? What is it called?

• 6:32Tom Ellsworth?

  National Book Month.

• 6:33Patrick Bet-David?

  National Book Month. And here's what we're doing for this month for March. It's funny, I had a couple of book recommendations for my son I gave. Vinnie, you're reading a book that's pretty insane on the way down here. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but there's, for those of you guys that are big readers. If you haven't yet read, Choose Your Enemies Wisely, The Academy, or Your Next Five Moves. If you're a parent, you want your kids to be thinking so they can think for themselves. So the educational system can't brainwash them. Go order The Academy for them. Both my boys have read that book, 11, 12. I think anything above 11 is good for that book. But if you order any of these books this month, we're sending you custom bookmarks. Rob, can you show some of the custom bookmarks? That's the Vaitya Man one. We have a couple of other ones. We have the Academy one, we have the Vaitya Man one, we have the What's Your Next Moves?

• 7:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Anybody that orders a book, we send you three bookmarks with any of the books. Go to VTmerch.com. All the books are signed. You can pick up any one of them you want at VTmerch.com. Get reading, folks. Get reading so you cannot be brainwashed by the people that are trying to do it to you. Whether it's the mainstream media, whether it's teachers to your kids. Get yourself and your kids reading so you can be liberated. All right, let's get into the podcast.

• 7:43Patrick Bet-David?

  First story I want to get into for me is what happened with the president and Biden. Little bit awkward, little bit weird. Rob, if you can play this clip. So Vinny, help us understand when this clip is from and what's going on here between President Trump, Melania, Jill and Biden.

• 7:59Speaker 04

  Okay, so at this point, Trump has been sworn in. They're outside. They're waiting for Marine One to show up to get Biden and Jill to put them on their farewell. So as he's sitting there, you see Joe Biden, and I'll get into the history of him after we see the video because I have my thoughts. You guys are gonna watch. He puts his hand. First of all, you should not be touching the first lady, period. Nobody's touching Jill. Nobody's asking the doctor for any help or anything. He puts his hand on her back. It's a long moment. And then as he's leaving, he kind of swipes down on her butt. You're gonna be able to see it and then...

• 8:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Do they show both angles?

• 8:37Speaker 04

  They show this angle and then they show the back. Oh yeah, you're gonna see the hand.

• 8:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, play the clip.

• 8:41Speaker 04

  And then you're gonna see Trump lean in and then he brings him, like you know what it is, Pat. You bring her close to you. And then it's an awkward moment because everybody scrambles as to say what's going on.

• 8:50Patrick Bet-David?

  What I want you to, folks, if you watch this, it's very simple. If you're married, specifically if you're married, okay, to the people that are married, are you okay with this? Is this appropriate? Is this inappropriate? Watch the clip. Go for it, Rob.

• 9:07Speaker 04

  Okay, so yeah, conversation. Look at Trump.

• 9:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump's trying to see what he's saying to her.

• 9:11Speaker 04

  And look, look, the hand, hand, hand's still on her, Pat. Still on her. Look at him.

• 9:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So while this is happening, he comes up to see what's going on. She moves closer to him.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 9:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he asks him a question. And then Emhoff.

• 9:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, there goes Doug. There goes Doug, who knows about that type of behavior.

• 9:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Something got said.

• 9:34Speaker 04

  Yep. What's going on?

• 9:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You can tell Biden's a little bit concerned. Trump's aggressive. Not aggressive in his face. Rob, show the other clip because this clip doesn't do it justice. There's another clip from the back. That's it. That's the one. Can you make that bigger? Go for it. Look at the hands, folks.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Look at it. And that's real time and then boom dude don't oh man okay Tom you're married your thoughts on this

• 9:59Tom Ellsworth?

  This is out of line this is out of line we all know what that is all guys that have been out there around other guys and there's dogs to be around you gotta be careful because they do that kind of thing and um I I really would have been very very upset that was a intentional move and that is the grabby Biden that we've seen in a creepy way around people and you see Jill lean in so you know Trump said something but me I would have stepped between her and my wife and just said take a step back dude because this is kind of a formal thing I would have been I would have been really pissed off

• 10:36Speaker 04

  Adam thoughts

• 10:38Adam Sosnick?

  Um if Trump did have an issue with this what are the chances that he would say something publicly what are the chances he would call out Biden if this look on the surface it looks slightly creepy if he would have given her a nice little slap oh we World War III is breaking out this is par for the course for Joe I don't know I mean you tell me

• 11:01Speaker 04

  Par for the course you cut him slack

• 11:02Adam Sosnick?

  Half the time he's seen now he doesn't know what he's doing half the time he's vindictive malicious and he knows exactly what he's doing which one is it so

• 11:13Adam Sosnick?

  this is a three out of 10 for me

• 11:17Speaker 04

  Can I say my part though this is this is this is the type of behavior and Adam and I and I get where you're coming from but that's always the go to especially when it comes to Joe Biden is yeah this is what we're supposed to expect him oh he's sniffing kids because he he's a grandpa he's doing all this but listen

• 11:31Tom Ellsworth?

  He does that he does that

• 11:32Speaker 04

  No no and I'm by the way he's gone and and good ribbon good riddance but he has a track record that speaks for himself he's he's had multiple allegations for inappropriate behavior and sexual misconduct over the years especially with Tara Reid who accused him of sexual assault in 1993 she worked for him when he worked in the senate we've seen videos and I sent the clip to Rob we don't have to see it again Pat where he's sniffing kids and touching girls and inappropriate touching young females okay and then his daughter wrote in her diary that he would shower with me at inappropriate ages okay and now he's touching her back it's like how many more things have to happen and let's not act as if this government these the people that I control Pat look at what's happening with the Epstein list they protect these type of people

• 12:14Speaker 04

  you're like they this is the type of behavior that they go no no no no it's okay and now that we want answers we're not gonna get answers from one of the biggest sex trafficking perverts in the world and this is the type of behavior that I think

• 12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  let me ask you this question do you think Trump do you think she said something to him that got Trump to say something to him

• 12:32Speaker 04

  I think I think she was like he's creeping me out

• 12:34Patrick Bet-David?

  so do you think Kamala and the other people that walked up why do you think the other people walked up

• 12:38Speaker 04

  because look at Jill Jill runs in look at that did you see that Jill's like wait what

• 12:43Adam Sosnick?

  question

• 12:44Speaker 04

  yes

• 12:45Adam Sosnick?

  where is this in front of

• 12:46Speaker 04

  the uh the rotund this is the capital

• 12:49Tom Ellsworth?

  this is the rear steps rear steps

• 12:52Speaker 04

  at the end of it

• 12:53Tom Ellsworth?

  he's inaugurated he's president they're on the back steps at him

• 12:56Adam Sosnick?

  what do you think she said to him he grabbed my ass what do you think she said

• 12:59Speaker 04

  he's creeping me out

• 13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  no no she wouldn't say he grabbed my ass she would say he touched me inappropriately I didn't like it

• 13:07Adam Sosnick?

  what are the chances she said that

• 13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I would say 70%

• 13:10Speaker 04

  I was gonna say 80 yeah

• 13:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I put 70%

• 13:12Speaker 04

  cuz Adam look

• 13:13Patrick Bet-David?

  and then because she walks and he's like what happened comes closer and then he's saying something and you know he would say something

• 13:18Speaker 04

  Jill runs in there

• 13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  and then what is Kamala doing coming in what are the other people coming

• 13:23Adam Sosnick?

  Jill's reaction is pretty telling the fact that she rushes over

• 13:25Speaker 04

  yeah

• 13:26Adam Sosnick?

  but then again it might be loud you can't hear him she doesn't know what he's saying

• 13:29Patrick Bet-David?

  no no no

• 13:30Adam Sosnick?

  I'm making no uh

• 13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  that's too much of a that's too much of a

• 13:34Speaker 04

  touch that's too long

• 13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  by the way this fits his legacy of creepy Joe

• 13:38Speaker 04

  thank you

• 13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  great and then it's a little creepy on the way you do it and step off making a comment by the way you know who is watching that do you know who is watching that

• 13:47Speaker 04

  Baron

• 13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  a guy named Baron Trump and a guy named by the way the way the the way a son is protective of a mother is very different than the way a husband is protective of his wife it's a very different energy by the way I would even say crazier energy if somebody messes with your mother it's a very different energy than somebody I don't know why I can't describe it to you it's very different on the approach you will come in from so

• 14:15Tom Ellsworth?

  a 19 year old son be very impulsive

• 14:18Patrick Bet-David?

  you gotta worry about a 6'9" 18 year old kid that's sitting there saying what the hell is going on here anyways let's go to the next story

• 14:23Adam Sosnick?

  what did uh Trump say when he was doing the CPAC speeches like we got a nickname for For Joe, do we want to go with sleepy Joe? Do we want to go with creepy Joe? What was the whole?

• 14:33Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, I like both of them.

• 14:35Adam Sosnick?

  And he made the audience weigh in on.

• 14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he did.

• 14:39Adam Sosnick?

  But I think they chose sleepy.

• 14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  But he likes both of them. But he likes both of them. Okay, let's go into the, let's go into the economy real quick. All right, so a couple of things going on with the economy here. So number one, the market tanks 900 points yesterday. Okay. And, you know, there's a story here about Wall Street Journal. The market finally woke up to tariff reality. Is this a buying opportunity on page 15? By, by the way, those of you that are on PBD Podcast Circle, the notes we're looking at, we left the notes in the PBD Podcast Circle. You can go to it and go to page 15. Uh, so markets are finally waking up to the tariff reality. Is this a buying opportunity? After President Trump was elected, investors got very excited about all the nice things he promised and forgot about the stuff that'd be bad for stocks.

• 15:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Now they are very anxious about all the stuff that is bad for stocks and have forgotten about the nice things. Has the sell-off gone too far? I took the advice, I took the other side concerned that the threat of tariffs and immigration clampdown from frothy markets when investors were on tax cuts delegation. I have trouble turning bullish for the long run because I fear the new world order Trump is ushering in, in won't end well for investors. But in the short term, this feels like a very rapid sell-off that at least undoes much of the concerns about excess in markets. So by the way, if you look at crypto, crypto took a hit. Bitcoin took a hit.

• 16:00Adam Sosnick?

  75 or something Bitcoin.

• 16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  75 Bitcoins now back at 80. Ethereum went to 1878. Uh, XRP is at 209. So that kind of took a hit. Tom, market, when you're seeing this, how much of it is this tariffs? What are you seeing are the concerns, especially with this other story here? Tesla stock nose dives, wiping out $700 billion in gains since Mar, uh, since Trump's election. Uh, Tesla stock tumbled. With shares dropping 4.6%, a partial rebound, the Trump bump faded as stocks fell 28% in a month and 32% since January 1st. Adam Serhan, founder of 50 Park Investments, told Bloomberg the bet on Tesla's shares soaring due to Musk's political involvement has not worked

• 16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  out thus far. Investors who initially anticipated massive benefits from Musk's political involvement got too excited and now cooler heads are prevailing. Thoughts, Tom?

• 16:55Tom Ellsworth?

  So when you look at everything from Bitcoin to the market, markets move based on facts plus future sentiment. Facts, earnings reports, unemployment reports, the amount of billions that have actually gone into Bitcoin in a given week, those are facts. Then we have sentiment, the future sentiment. What do we think about the future? Well, right now, since November, the sentiment on consumers has been razor thin. What do we know? Because credit cards went up to $1.3 trillion balance and BNPL delinquencies jumped up. So everybody goes, oh crap, it doesn't look like the consumer is going to be spending much in Q1, they're tapped out. So that was a forward sentiment people concerned about. And then comes this

• 17:39Tom Ellsworth?

  waves of sentiment on the tariffs. Some of the tariffs were small and as I was saying, hey, remember, they're tactics, not taxes. Well, some of these tactics are taking a while to kick in. Canada stepped up and threw some tariffs at China and China said, oh, you small child, and threw 100% tariffs back at Canada, showing that that's an unequal fight because China is going to say, get off my lawn with your little dog, right? That's what China is telling Canada. So right now, we have a big shift in sentiment. So the forward sentiment, PBD, the market is concerned. Right now, there is less of a percent of investor dollars in MAG7 than there was five months ago. So the MAG7, remember

• 18:24Tom Ellsworth?

  it was so overweight, everybody was buying the MAG7 individually, led by Nvidia, and then also buying MAG7 ETFs that were dedicated to them, that were so hot in 2023. Well, all of that is pulled back and there's a shift in sentiment and investment right now, led by, check this out. I looked up last night, there is now the survey of governors thinking there's a 50/50 chance of a rate cut in May. But we don't have unemployment figures. We don't have GDP figures. We don't have anything yet that normally would make Jerome Powell, who two weeks ago said, "I don't think there's going to be cuts. I think it's going to be kind of level for a while and we're going to let this shake out."

• 19:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, now the sentiment marker on interest rates is even 50/50 for a cut in May, thinking that we're going to get bad news in mid-April in five weeks when we get first-quarter reports. But right now, this is sentiment, and the sentiment was led yesterday by one simple interview. Donald Trump saying, "I don't rule out a recession." When he said those words yesterday, what he's saying is, and Howard Lutnick, our Secretary of Commerce, ran to the microphone and said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think there's going to be a recession at all. I don't think so at all."

• 19:40Patrick Bet-David?

  After Trump said that, he jumped in.

• 19:42Tom Ellsworth?

  He's trying to calm the...

• 19:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do you have that clip?

• 19:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's trying to calm...

• 19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have the clip of Trump saying, "Rule out a recession"? Yes, I can find that. I have Howard Lutnick right here on MSNBC talking about the odds. Did he say this after Trump's comments?

• 19:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Lutnick was on the weekend and it was Trump's interview on Monday.

• 19:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, because this is Meet the Press, so this is Sunday. So he went first, then Trump went? Yes. Okay, so let's watch this first. Go for it.

• 20:07Speaker 06

  Anybody who bets against Donald Trump, it's like the same people who thought Donald Trump wasn't a winner a year ago. Donald Trump is a winner. He's going to win for the American people. That's just the way it's going to be. There's going to be no recession in America. What there's going to be is, global tariffs are going to come down because President Trump has said, "You want to charge us 100%? We're going to charge you 100%." And you know what they say? They say, "No, no, no. No, no, don't charge us 100%. We'll bring ours down. We'll unleash America out to the world, grow our economy in a way we've never grown before. You are going to see over the next two years, the greatest set of growth coming from America as Americans..." You saw it, 1.3 trillion of new investment

• 20:49Speaker 06

  coming in America. Think of all those jobs. And remember, each trillion of investment in America is 1% of growth GDP. So Donald Trump is bringing growth to America. I would never bet on recession. No chance.

• 21:04Tom Ellsworth?

  So what Lutnik is saying, the minute everybody else's blinks on tariffs, the markets are gonna shift. Second quarter, third quarter, you're gonna see huge economic growth. And for every trillion that we get of new growth, it's 1% of GDP. That's Lutnik, our Secretary of Commerce, saying it's ugly right now, but soon as the world blinks on tariffs, the market's just gonna flip back the other way.

• 21:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he upset you? Did Howard upset you?

• 21:28Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think-

• 21:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you call him Lutnik? It's Lutnik. Is it like Don Lemon, Don Lamont?

• 21:33Tom Ellsworth?

  You know you messed up with people.

• 21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  He's upset, by the way. Lutnik, Howard, he's just upset with you a little bit. Rob, can you play the clip of the President saying recession? Possibly play this clip, go for it.

• 21:43Tom Ellsworth?

  This is with Maria Bartiroma, where he talks about, he doesn't like to predict things like that.

• 21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's see what he has to say. And I want to ask you about Ukraine and the blow up the other day with Zelensky. Let me stay on the economy for a moment, because there are rising worries about a slowdown. You've got the Atlanta Federal Reserve saying we're gonna have a contraction in the first quarter. Look, I know that you inherited a mess, and you said that the other night.

• 22:06Adam Sosnick?

  I've always been here, you know, for a while.

• 22:07Patrick Bet-David?

  But are you expecting a recession this year?

• 22:12Adam Sosnick?

  I hate to predict things like that. There is a period of transition, because what we're doing is very big. We're bringing wealth back to America. That's a big thing.

• 22:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He's right.

• 22:23Adam Sosnick?

  And there are always periods of... It takes a little time. It takes a little time. But I think it should be great for us. I mean, I think it should be great. It's gonna be great ultimately for the farmer. You know, don't forget, I made-

• 22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, first of all, I just want to make sure when video's playing, don't comment. Okay, so just keep that part in mind. So, you know what I like about what he just said right there? That he's right about. And then Adam, I'm coming to you. So you know what's the biggest thing with negotiation? Whenever you're negotiating, what Lutnik is, what Lutnik said, I actually don't like. And I'll say, if I'm Trump, I would say, what are you doing? Why are you saying that? Because he's saying that it's a tactic that they're eventually gonna come to us. So what that means in negotiation is that you're eventually gonna what? Give in, right?

• 23:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so who wins in negotiation?

• 23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Who wins in a negotiation? You know, in a negotiation, leverage matters. What else matters? Whoever is willing to walk away from the deal. What else matters? Whoever has the most patience. If you read the book Art of the Deal, there were certain deals that he waited god knows how long, where he was patient until he got paid premium. Okay, as a negotiator. So I love the fact that he says, "Look, when you're trying to make a transition the way we are, we're gonna go through something. Some things are gonna be nasty." If you're trying to truly put reciprocal tariffs on people that are putting 25, 50, 70, 100% on us, we gotta go through the pain for you to lower the prices. That's gonna be painful.

• 24:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I do think the market could take a hit as you're going through that process, until they give in. How long that takes? I don't know, but I don't think he's off with what he's saying.

• 24:21Speaker 04

  Is this gonna, is this gonna affect the, because I mean, think about it. We always talk about Trump has his four years, guys, and he's, and he's done, right? How much of this, especially if this starts to creep up in these two years, affects the, the midterms?

• 24:33Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot.

• 24:33Speaker 04

  A lot, right?

• 24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's his timeline. I wrote here, "You can only be as patient as the midterms."

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 24:40Patrick Bet-David?

  He knows what he's playing with. By the way, if you look at numbers with job cuts?

• 24:44Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  US job cuts surged 245% in February on federal government layoffs. Rob, if you got a clip on that one here, 245%. So if job cuts are up 245, a challenger Gary Christmas report revealed planned job cuts surged 245% in February to 172,000 jobs last month. That's the highest level since July of 2020. You know what happened July of 2020? Covid. That's July of 2020, when the economy was reeling from restrictions related to Covid pandemic and the highest total for February since great recession of '09. We're talking since great recession of '09, that's 16 years, with federal government layoffs under President Trump's administration, driving the surge, including 62,000 announced job cuts

• 25:28Patrick Bet-David?

  across seven federal agencies. As Andrew Challenger noted, "The government has laid off roughly 62,000 workers in the first two months." A forty-one thousand, three hundred and eleven percent increase compared to a year ago. Let me say that one more time. A forty-one thousand, three hundred and eleven percent increase compared to a year ago, which means the last year, only three people got laid off. If you really think about how that number works.

• 25:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow, sure.

• 25:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever the number, it's a small number.

• 25:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's an important, important point there. If you take out the government layoffs and look at the layoffs in American industry.

• 26:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 26:01Tom Ellsworth?

  American retail or wherever, the layoffs are actually at par, right? The, the, the economy hasn't really reacted yet. Nothing major has happened. But what we're, it's looking at is the government layoffs that came from Doge going in and, um, you know, changing, changing agencies. Now, those are real consumers with real paychecks that are now really not going to be working. Some of those are early retirement. But we have to be careful when we look at it as macro, because the economy hasn't reacted in any of the industrial sectors. CHIPS isn't down because Taiwan's been invaded. You know what I mean? Nothing like that has happened. These are people coming out of government jobs, but their paychecks are no longer buying things.

• 26:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so if, if all of a sudden you see things with cost of living, which is still a problem he's been dealing with, because he got, that's not on him, that came from previous administration.

• 26:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Hanging in three percent.

• 26:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. Hanging in three percent. If all of a sudden this affects unemployment, which we'll see what the numbers are going to look like there, if it forces interest rates to be lowered, if people are not making money, if the prices are high, if the people are losing money, very, very quickly, people will be sounding alarm on that. And if we tap into the recession, you, in order to make that drastic of a change that they want to make to the way we do things, a risk of a recession should be on the table. It's just the reality of it. If you're trying to make that drastic of a shift.

• 27:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Pass that.

• 27:31Patrick Bet-David?

  The risk is recession. That's the risk. I hate to say it, Adam.

• 27:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, if you just look at the markets, buckle your seatbelt, brace for impact, because uh, we're in for a rough landing, you know, we've.

• 27:42Adam Sosnick?

  Talked about this soft landing concept, the economy, what's going on with inflation? What's going on with the markets? I mean, if you just look at the markets alone, we're negative since Trump took office. There's an image right here that's on the Wall Street Journal. Wall Street fears Trump will wreck the soft landing. So Trump, you know, the first time he took office, they, they, they were like, the economy is going to tank. It's going to be a recession. The market boomed. I mean, here's an image right here. In the first two months that Trump has taken office, it went up big time like a rocket. Bitcoin went to over 100. S and P all time high, Dow all time high, boom, crash landing. So

• 28:28Adam Sosnick?

  what Trump needs to convey is look, guys, brace for impact because if you're looking at the markets, um, it's not going to look too pretty for a while. Quote unquote, he said, there will be a period transition. Well, what we're doing is very big. What we have to do is build a strong country. You can't really watch the stock market. So what he's saying is this, there's a difference between Wall Street and Main Street. We all know that. Only 50% of Americans own stock or in the stock market. I think more should take their suggestion, but Main Street is looking at this. They're looking at the tariffs. They're looking at what's going on with the markets. Inflation is still hovering around 3%. They've got, they haven't gotten to their 2% number.

• 29:10Adam Sosnick?

  But what's the definition of a recession? We learned this during Joe Biden administration. It's two consecutive quarters of negative GDP. What he's saying is like, buddy, it's been 45 days. Don't necessarily pay attention to the markets. Let's see where we go with this. But if you're like, for instance, I just sat with my mother the other day who's 74 years old. I love you, mom. And we went over her retirement planning and thank God she has a son that knows what she's doing. Cause if not, this woman's clueless and I love you, mom. But if you're a retiree, you need to make sure that you're out of risky asset classes.

• 29:53Adam Sosnick?

  You need to have a vast percentage of your asset allocation into bonds, into cash derivatives, into CDs. Mess with the market right now because it's going to be a very choppy landing over the next 12, 24 months.

• 30:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to, I want to, I want to say this, that when you said this to remind everybody, do you remember the whole thing about two consecutive quarters?

• 30:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, they changed.

• 30:12Patrick Bet-David?

  For GDP, they changed the definition.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  Changed the definition, thank you.

• 30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So I have a feeling the definition is going to come back.

• 30:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  This time around, so just kind of be ready.

• 30:20Adam Sosnick?

  Convenient.

• 30:21Patrick Bet-David?

  When this goes back, they're going to be like, no, no, no, under Biden, it wasn't a recession, but under Trump it is. So they're going to be playing that game back and forth.

• 30:28Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 30:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, all I'm saying is it's, it could potentially be a good time to buy, but as a person who has one term left and he's dealing with midterms. If, if the way Trump answered it, to say he's okay with a possibility of a recession, that's the right approach to scare the shit out of your uh, competitors, other countries to say, he's okay if he goes through a recession, he's not worried about how it's going to look on him. No, he was like, yeah, I don't want to put, define, predict and all this stuff. If it happens, it could happen with me. You were making such a drastic change in our way of doing things that could possibly take place.

• 31:05Adam Sosnick?

  Things will get worse before they get better.

• 31:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm, I'm totally okay with that. Okay. I'm totally okay with that, but it's not going to be okay to the average person. But the main person he's talking to is the other guys on the other end, whether it's Mexico, China, Canada, he's talking to everybody else.

• 31:22Adam Sosnick?

  Think about this, if you're a Democrat right now, if you're one of the Democratic politicians, it's actually a pretty good time to start going in on Trump. He's wrecking the economy, these tariffs are not what he's going to be doing.

• 31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 31:34Adam Sosnick?

  It would actually be an easy argument at this point to bash Trump. Now I'm advocating for this because it's almost like we gotta get the cancer out, so we gotta have to have some chemo in order to

• 31:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You're advocating for what?

• 31:49Adam Sosnick?

  For what Trump is doing.

• 31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure, of course.

• 31:51Adam Sosnick?

  The reciprocal terrorists, the

• 31:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 31:53Adam Sosnick?

  The shutting down the border, like things are going to get worse before they get better.

• 31:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 31:58Adam Sosnick?

  I'm, I'm all in on what he's doing. I'm all in on what Elon's doing. I'm all in on Doge. But if I'm a Democrat right now and you see what they're

• 32:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You ought to light it up.

• 32:05Adam Sosnick?

  Fighting stances.

• 32:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Which by the way.

• 32:07Adam Sosnick?

  They could use this economic measure.

• 32:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly what Rachel Maddow did yesterday. Okay, Rob, if you have the clip.

• 32:12Speaker 04

  Oh, she is.

• 32:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's Rachel Maddow.

• 32:13Speaker 04

  Look at her face.

• 32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Celebrating, uh, the look on her face on what Rob was saying on how the economy is doing. Look at how happy she is.

• 32:20Speaker 04

  She's sitting on a motorcycle.

• 32:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Freaking genius economist.

• 32:26Adam Sosnick?

  There's two clips playing, Rob.

• 32:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, sorry, hang on one second.

• 32:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a-

• 32:33Adam Sosnick?

  Bloomberg News today, banner headline, Markets Rocked By Trump Show Economic Fear Across Wall Street. Right under that, next headline, Nasdaq 100 Sheds $1.1 Trillion in Value. Right under that, next headline, Stocks Fall Most This Year With Recession Warnings Blaring. Right under that, next headline, Tesla Tumbles Most Since 2020. Next headline over, Billionaires At Trump Swearing In Have Since Lost $209 Billion. Quote, "The start of Trump's second term has delivered a stunning reversal for many of the billionaires who were seated behind Trump in the Capitol Rotunda while he was being sworn in."

• 33:18Adam Sosnick?

  This is my point.

• 33:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That's exactly what they should be doing.

• 33:22Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, exactly. If I'm them and I want to go ham on Trump-

• 33:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No problem.

• 33:24Adam Sosnick?

  This is a great time to do it.

• 33:26Patrick Bet-David?

  No problem.

• 33:26Adam Sosnick?

  But what we know about markets is this could bounce back today and it could have an all-time high, you know, by the end of the month.

• 33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 33:33Adam Sosnick?

  So, you never read into the day-to-day economics.

• 33:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, but with the fact that she's smiling and she's happy about it, that average Americans are gonna start feeling it, shows how much of a scumbag she is.

• 33:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Let her smile, let her smile. There are technical recessions and there are structural recessions. A technical recession is where you look at all the numbers and yes, it's here. Those you can relate to a power failure. Lights go off, oh gosh. But soon as the city gets power back on, everybody's back to normal because the lights are back on. That's a technical recession. And I think that's what we're looking at here, maybe. A structural recession is like you lose the auto industry for seven years to Japan, who kicks your ass. And people are laid off and have nowhere to go.

• 34:14Adam Sosnick?

  Like in the 1980s, you're saying?

• 34:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. Those are structural. Now we have a structure problem with this. I think that this is more likely, if it happens, to be more like a technical recession. And I think the bounce back is going to be as fast as we've seen here because it's driven by sentiment.

• 34:31Adam Sosnick?

  You think Trump is gonna change his tune? Or at what point would Trump maybe pivot on these tariffs? If the economy actually starts getting worse? If the markets start getting worse? Or is he all in on this?

• 34:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope he does not. I hope he does not.

• 34:47Adam Sosnick?

  Explain why.

• 34:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope he stays.

• 34:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 34:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you why.

• 34:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 34:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, so you know, when it comes down to Iran, um, everybody asks me and says, hey, do you think Iran's gonna go back to being a democracy? I said, the guy's got close in 2020. If Trump would have had his two terms back to back, Iran would have had some kind of a change. Because the pain of sanctions was so bad that the people wanted to change. And if that meant getting rid of whoever they had, they were willing to do it, right? Biden comes in, boom, pain goes away. And now they're like, nah, let's just go back to our regular life. We're gonna be okay, right? So now tariffs, we're probably only gonna have this chance to have somebody this crazy and unpredictable to be able to push the envelope for tariffs to get everything on level playing field.

• 35:34Patrick Bet-David?

  If he doesn't do it, it's probably never gonna happen during our lifetime.

• 35:38Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 35:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Because think about what presidential candidate is gonna come in that has the team that he has who can push. I hope they push as far as they can to get everyone checked into. Like, look at this Shine Bomb, what she says. Just listen to this phrase of Bloomberg story. Uh, this, the president of Mexico, look at the story. Shine Bomb says she sees Mexico avoiding reciprocal tariffs. Wait, what? Do, do you know what that means to me? He, he, here's what it means to me.

• 36:09Adam Sosnick?

  I don't have to change.

• 36:10Patrick Bet-David?

  She sees that, hey, guess what? We can go to dinner with another businessman. And I think we can get away with them paying for the entire dinner and we not have to pay anything for it. Reciprocal, right? You're having a business meeting. We do a conference with another guy. And we're renting an office space from a place, you're sharing half the office space, I'm sharing half the office space. Rent is a hundred grand a month. You're paying 50, I'm paying 50. She's saying, I think we can get away without having to pay the rent and only he's gonna have to pay the whole hundred thousand. That's what they're saying to America. If I'm a president reading this and who the hell you think you are, talking like this, what do you mean you're gonna be able to avoid not having to pay reciprocal tariffs to it? So here, let me read this to you. Mexican President

• 36:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Scheinbaum expressed confidence at Mexico City's rally on Sunday that Trump won't impose reciprocal tariffs on Mexico starting April 2nd, stating Mexico is not within the scope because for 30 years we have had two trade agreements establishing that we don't have any tariffs on them and they don't have any tariffs on us. She clarified, in other words, they wouldn't have to apply reciprocal tariffs because there are particularly no levies from Mexico on US distinguishing these from Trump's separate 25% tariffs to migration and drugs paused until April 2nd. Scheinbaum turned the rally originally set to counter US tariffs into a celebration after Trump delayed the 25% tariffs on USMCA. Good, a move she framed as a win, saying we cannot give up on our sovereignty and our people

• 37:35Patrick Bet-David?

  can't be affected by decisions made by foreign governments. Tom, thoughts on the story?

• 37:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, it's on Sunday and she's at a political rally, which, you know, we have Face the Nation over here and over in Mexico, it's usually called Face the Bullets. So she's out there screaming, talking about how, oh, well, we're not gonna do this because we've got these, we have these agreements where we don't have reciprocal tariffs. She's trying to calm her own economy. Don't worry about it. He's not gonna do it. We've got these two treaties that are already in place. And she says, and by the way, the tariffs he's talking about, those are different tariffs because he's upset about the border and drugs. Don't worry about it, it'll be okay. She is trying to calm her economy and her stock market, which is gonna open on Monday morning on a weekend rally, and she is actually not

• 38:22Tom Ellsworth?

  saying anything. Notice that she doesn't say anything negative about Trump. She merely says, everything is going to be okay. That's what she's doing. And so what we have here, she is trying to spin because her back's up against the wall.

• 38:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and Adam, go for it. Well, I think...

• 38:41Adam Sosnick?

  You know, I'm trying to get into Trump's mind because sure, Scheinbaum says her things, Justin Trudeau or the new gentleman that's gonna be taking over over there. She's doing his thing, but Trump holds the cards as they say. What Trump is trying to do is right the wrongs that have happened in our trade agreements for the last 40 years. He's generally trying to make America wealthy again. He sees the unfair trade agreements. I think he said at one point, instead of taxing our own citizens to enrich foreign nations, we should tax and tariff other nations to enrich our citizens. So what Trump is doing, you remember the time when he was sitting with Chuck Schumer? You asked him about this, you said this was your favorite point of his presidency. When you said it was like a real life vlog, he's like, I'll take the shutdown of the government, Chuck.

• 39:26Adam Sosnick?

  Okay Nancy, what Trump is doing is literally saying, I'll put on the tariff Superman cape. I'll be the bad guy. I'll deal with the markets going down and saying, I'll take the blame. Cause the rest of you mother suckers are just gonna kick the can down the road. I'll make the economy better. I'll make us better again. I'll make us wealthy again. Cause the rest of you won't do it, so we gotta do the tariffs now.

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, most people cannot handle what uh, they can handle, the amount of pain Trump can handle. I will tell you this, if I'm Trump and if anybody from Trump's camp watches this, you guys like charts, let me give you one of the best charts to show for. Go pull up military expenditure on Mexico and Canada versus ours. We spend 3.4% of our taxpayers' money on military to provide safety of where we are, right? And who's our neighbors? Mexico and Canada. Great. Canada spends 1.1, Mexico spends .7. .7 is 2.7 less than we do on our military expenditure. That 2.7 should be paid as a form of a tariff to US. We're providing protection for you.

• 40:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't you go spend that money out of the money that you make? You ought to do that. Why should I pay for protection knowing nobody wants to mess with Mexico because you're my neighbor? I'm not okay with that. I think there's so many ways they can work this Mexico and Canada relationship, but I think that chart needs to be given to them for them to see it. Okay, next story to get into is Trump sends a letter to Iran on nuclear program, make a deal or face US militarily. Rob, if you got this clip here. This is the negotiation with Iran on the nuclear program. Here's Trump. Go for it, Rob.

• 41:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope that Iran, and I've written him a letter saying I hope you're gonna negotiate.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  Because if we have to go in militarily, it's going to be a terrible thing for them. You wrote a letter to the Khomeini, believe it? When did you send the letter? Yesterday. And you said you better negotiate, or we want you to negotiate? I didn't say you better. I said, I hope you're going to negotiate because it's going to be a lot better for Iran. And I think they want to get that letter. The other alternative is we have to do something because you can't let them have a nuclear weapon.

• 41:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 41:40Adam Sosnick?

  So there was a great article in the Wall Street Journal, if I can pull it up real quick, about,

• 41:46Adam Sosnick?

  they called it, "Iran is Weak, Will Trump Be Strong? Tehran Will Try To Delay And Humor Trump Like Other Presidents." And basically what they do is they lay out the, you talked about leverage in negotiations. What leverage does Iran have at this point? What leverage do they have?

• 42:03Patrick Bet-David?

  China.

• 42:04Adam Sosnick?

  They have China, but how long is China going to back them up? I don't know. Is that what's going to happen there? So it said, essentially, the article lays out the fact that Iran is in no position to dictate terms with the United States. Their misery index, you said in 2020, they had a chance to basically reverse course. This is the first time since 1979 that they've been in a position of absolute weakness. Israel has taken out all their proxies, Hamas, Hezbollah, they're dealing with the Houthis, you see what's going on in Syria. Lebanon is going through a restructuring right now. Their misery index is one of the worst in the world.

• 42:43Adam Sosnick?

  The people of Iran are amazingly just able people, but they're basically being subjugated by this theocratic regime. Trump is putting maximum pressure on Iran right now. He knows this is the time because what is Trump's fear? What is the rest of the Middle East fear, including Saudi, including UAE? Iran getting a nuclear weapon. That's the one thing they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So Obama appeased them, Jimmy Carter appeased them. It was only Republicans who were basically saying, no, no, Iran, we're not playing this game. So Trump recognizes that he has two, maybe the four years to say, we're not messing with you.

• 43:26Tom Ellsworth?

  What do you think this letter said? Hey, let's be friends. Let's be nice. Basically, he said, don't make us do what we're willing to do.

• 43:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You better deliver on the threats, though.

• 43:35Speaker 04

  That's, I was just gonna say, he better.

• 43:37Patrick Bet-David?

  There's been too many threats lately of, if you don't do this, we're gonna do this. There's gotta be some delivery on them.

• 43:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, and, and, so, and Adam, you nailed it. He's preventing them from getting nuclear weapons. I mean, it doesn't help the fact that the Biden administration with Antony Blinken unfroze. What was it, Tom? Six billion? Six billion dollars to help them. It's, it's crucial because they're, they, they have been enriching uranium and they're getting, it's, because, Pat, you know what they're doing? They're getting it close to weapons-grade levels. Once, and who's to say where they're at? Where are they in that process? Like, if you're already there, then, Adam, because I personally think that they're, if they're this worried and he's talking about it like this, if they're not very, very close, they probably already have something that they could, that could definitely use to, to attack. That's, that's the scary part.

• 44:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the, the issue here is, we've never, under Biden, we were never willing to have anything that we did, um, except by, um, hitting their proxies, right?

• 44:36Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 44:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Like, their proxies were camped out in Syria. Bonk, right? Okay, if your proxies are camped out with the Hezbollah in Syria, we're, we're, you know, we're gonna drop cruises on you. And we did. And we did. What he's talking about, you better be ready for it. Now the cruises fly into their airspace and there's five locations that are supposedly the research labs and we know exactly where they are. And basically, that would seriously interrupt their nuclear program. Now, is he willing to do that? What we were just talking about. You gotta be willing to make good on the threat.

• 45:08Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 45:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Because what he's talking about, if we send, you know, the, the high-impact cruise missiles over there and we hit those five locations, it says, "I told you not to make nukes. You're up in your bedroom making nukes. Your dad and I told you, don't do that." And we, and we messed the place up.

• 45:24Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 45:25Tom Ellsworth?

  We have to be willing to do that. And if we're not willing to do that, it's just an idle threat because that, if you, if you read all the CIA threat assessments and stuff, those five locations is what Iran wants to protect.

• 45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's another clip.

• 45:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Ultimately build it.

• 45:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's another clip. Go forward, Rob.

• 45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, well, there are two ways Iran can be handled, militarily or you make a deal. I would prefer to make a deal because I'm not looking to hurt Iran. They're great people. I know so many Iranians from this country. Well, not the leadership. Their leadership, no, they're very evil people. Obviously. No, but the people of Iran are great people. But they had a tough regime. And they'd meet and they'd be shot in the streets. I mean, it was a tough, it was a tough deal.

• 46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  While that's being said, here's a story from The Hill. Iranian leader rejects Trump's push for nuclear talk. Ayatollah Khamenei rebuffed Trump's call for nuclear talk, stating on Saturday, "Some coercive governments insist on negotiations such as, "Such negotiations aren't aimed at solving issues. They are aimed to "exert their dominance and impose what they want." He argued that talks "are a tool to impose new demands, adding Iran will definitely not fulfill "these new demands, especially on defense and military limits." And obviously that's a, uh, um, we'll see how that's gonna be reacting towards it, but Vinnie, I think you want to say something.

• 46:49Speaker 04

  It's just, I don't know, man, because now I can see what you guys are talking about the left and stuff for them to argue about. If you think of a lot of stuff that we were promised and that people were told, especially on the other side, you can see, Tom, now it's like, like now all of a sudden, recession might be on the horizon. All right, we're talking about, he was talking about no wars. This looks like, because after him saying this, looks like the war stuff is happening. We were promised JFK, we were promised all the Epstein list. It's almost like in all three of these fronts, everything that we were told and that we were promised, it's all kind of coming to a point where now the left, I think, can have that, that, that thing to fight for, and the other side could be like, hey, man, what, all this stuff that you said that was gonna happen? It seems as if all of it is starting to turn the other way.

• 47:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, one, one of the things is yesterday, uh, Chris texts me saying, hey, Tucker and I did a podcast together, and they're on the podcast. One of the topics that comes up is why the JFK files hasn't been released. And Chris asks Tucker the question, like, who is holding this up? And Tucker doesn't want to drop the name. And he finally drops the name. Rob, if you can play this clip. And this has to do for the community of people that want to know what's going on with Epstein, that want to know what's going on with JFK files. All those promises.

• 48:00Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 48:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's this clip. Go for it, Rob.

• 48:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I've always thought that. And then in January, you know, there was a scramble over who's gonna get what jobs in the new administration. And at one point, there was someone who was being discussed uh, for a job in the

• 48:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Intel World and a member of the SSCI, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Intel Committee, went to the people making the decision and said, "You cannot hire this person because this person will be certain to push for the release of the JFK files." So this is in, this is a fact, so this is in 2025, less than two months ago, and you have a sitting member of the United States Senate, whose main goal is to keep those files secret. And then you have to ask yourself, "Why?" Yeah. Exactly. Why? Yeah. Why? Were they even alive? Why? Of course, no one was alive. It was 62 years ago. Yeah, I know. And by the way, the institution, no one can even tell you who the CIA director was and who, do you remember the name of the CIA director?

• 49:01Tom Ellsworth?

  John McCombe, I think, 1963. But that person is like completely lost to history, except to specialists. And the CIA has already been through 50 years ago, the Church Committee hearings, 1975, where we sort of know that they're sassing people, dosing people with acid, all this stuff. It's like, the CIA has already been discredited. So if you're telling me that six weeks ago, a member of the United States Senate was trying to keep someone out of a job in order to keep these files secret, that is to protect the CIA, I don't believe that for a second. So wait a minute. Here's the part I don't understand. So who's that person exerting the pressure? But you are uniquely qualified to get this answer because one of us can call the President of the United States right now and ask him. And the other one is me.

• 49:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So why don't you know? That's a great question. It's the only kind I ask. So what I brought to it was the knowledge that a member of the Senate Intel Committee, I'm not guessing, called over and said, "You cannot appoint this person." So why don't you expose that person, first of all, so we can start chasing after her? Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Boom! Tom Cotton? Yes, correct. And did you ask him? I haven't. No, I haven't asked him. What the hell's going on with you? I'd like to. And... Kind of makes people suspicious of you, by the way. Go ahead. Because if you know that, if you know that Tom Cotton said, "You can't pick this person because..." That is correct. And then you didn't go to him and find out why? Well, I need to sit down with him. I'm not sure that he'll do an interview with me. With you?

• 50:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm waiting. You are, you are like the spirit animal.

• 50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That administration. No, no, but it's it's a fair, look, it's a fair question. Um, it's a totally fair question. And the answer is, I hadn't thought to do that. And there's a lot going on and I've been.

• 50:44Speaker 04

  That does, and and and again, and this is going for all the.

• 50:46Adam Sosnick?

  Tom Cotton, so we know Tom.

• 50:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:48Adam Sosnick?

  Tom Cotton's got some splaining to do, remember Lucy?

• 50:51Speaker 04

  By the way, and I'm, and I'm, I've been a fan of Tom Cotton, uh, just like Josh Hawley, like all the, all these guys, they, they speaking up, they're talking for us. But this is the, this is the problem when it comes to people like me that have been supporting this movement for almost, you know, over eight and a half, almost nine years. We're going on it, that we were made promises, okay? We were made promises and this, this is to, and I know, uh, the last podcast we had where Andrew Tate was like, yeah, well, this is just what they, but no, no, no, it's not about that. This is about, I mean, Epstein number one, but JFK two, why is Tom Cotton, if this is true, holding it back? What, what, everybody that was involved is dead. Are they, who are you protecting?

• 51:30Speaker 04

  Cause at the end of it, Pat, if you, if you're holding it back, you don't want me, the American taxpayer, to know, as a veteran too, what happened? Who murdered our sitting president? Cause nine 11 was one of the worst, I think murdering the sitting president and all the people involved. They're protecting somebody or a group that's still around right now. Same thing with Epstein. And this is the type of crap that pisses me the hell off because we were made promises. Now we're just sitting, I just posted another tweet today, Pat. We're on day 11 of business days. I'm not counting the weekends because Tom, you know, let me know, just count the Mondays through Fridays. It's day 11 and counting. We were promised Epstein, we were promised JFK, we were promised nine 11 and nothing. Haven't heard anything. I think, I think Cash arrested two people that were doing some nefarious stuff.

• 52:15Speaker 04

  What is the deal? What's happening? Who are they protecting? That's my question.

• 52:19Adam Sosnick?

  Tom.

• 52:21Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm curious about Tom Cotton running so quick to the microphone you see three hours ago. And he put a very comprehensive, uh.

• 52:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Tweet out, it said, "I did not talk to the president, I did not, uh, not release the files, I did not involve anybody," is a fairly long statement he just put out.

• 52:44Speaker 04

  This is false. I have no problem releasing the JFK files. Had Tucker Carlson asked me, I would have told him. He has texted me multiple times in recent weeks, so he knows how to reach me. Then why, again, release it. Why, what are you holding back? What do you mean he's not lying?

• 53:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I would have explained that I've never spoken to President Trump, or his associates, or administration officials about the files, comma, never objected to the appointment of any person because of the files, comma, and have complete faith that Tulsi Gabbard, John Ratcliffe, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and other officials will release the files as appropriate in accordance with President Trump's directive.

• 53:22Speaker 04

  And what, and here's my thing, Tom. What, he's gonna get with all them, and appropriate in accordance. No, no. What are you holding back? And I'm being genuine, Tom, I'm very, I'm very, very curious right now. It's been how many years? Why?

• 53:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me, let me just, let me just take a completely different angle here. Uh, that's, that's, what's, what's Tucker's background? Who was Tucker's father?

• 53:45Adam Sosnick?

  Wasn't he CIA?

• 53:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Tucker's father is, uh, has a very interesting background.

• 53:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 53:50Patrick Bet-David?

  He was involved. Whether it's CIA or whatever he did, he, he was involved.

• 53:54Adam Sosnick?

  Is that confirmed?

• 53:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, you can search a little bit in, that's, uh, you know, American Journal of Lobbyists, Voice of America from 66 to 91. Carl, can you Ctrl F CIA? Can you Ctrl F CIA to see anything comes up? No, not Patricia, Patricia CIA Association.

• 54:11Adam Sosnick?

  His name was Dick Carlson?

• 54:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Association.

• 54:14Adam Sosnick?

  Strong name.

• 54:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, you know, Voice of America at the time was also known as a...

• 54:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, the CIA had a lot of different methods of getting information. Anyways, if there is a way, because right now, is Tucker good with Trump?

• 54:39Adam Sosnick?

  At this point, yes.

• 54:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, if Tucker has to choose between Massey and Trump, who does he choose?

• 54:44Adam Sosnick?

  If he's smart, he picks Trump.

• 54:46Patrick Bet-David?

  If Tucker has to choose between supporting AIPAC that comes with Trump, and if you don't support AIPAC, that you lose Trump, what does he choose?

• 54:59Speaker 04

  Wow, that's a good one.

• 55:00Adam Sosnick?

  At this point, why would you want to go against Trump?

• 55:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That wasn't the question I asked.

• 55:04Speaker 04

  I don't think he's pro AIPAC and pro...

• 55:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, he had Massey on. It was actually a very good interview. He's gonna be very careful with AIPAC. So here's all I'm doing, here's all I'm saying with regards to Tucker. Does Trump's administration right now need someone to blame for the way they handled JFK files and Epstein and all that stuff? Is Tom Cotton good with Trump?

• 55:33Speaker 04

  I believe so. I wouldn't see any, nothing that would say other.

• 55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything we've ever spoken about with Tom Cotton has been positive.

• 55:41Speaker 04

  Positive.

• 55:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Has been good.

• 55:43Speaker 04

  Calling out everybody.

• 55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I don't know, I don't know if there is something here where the possibility of needing an out with somebody, I don't know. I'm just saying, like, if you needed somebody to say, hey, we have to figure out where to put this on someone. We have fumbled, you know, we have kind of mishandled the way we promised that we're gonna release and there's an intel. We had no idea this many people were interested in JFK files. We had no idea this many people were interested in what's going on with Epstein. Oh my God, we thought it was just something you would say from stage and then people would forget about it after the election. Holy shit, no, there's really a big community of people that really want this. I don't know, that's one, okay?

• 56:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And that me seeing that they use Cotton as a person to blame, I'm at 10 to 15% there. But it's an option. But it's an option, right? And the other option is... Could it have been something where the conversation is, say you and I talk, we're about to hire somebody and you don't like that person and you say, I don't like that person. And all of a sudden, Adam's in the room, Adam tells someone, someone tells another competitor and they say, let me tell you. The reason why that person didn't end up getting a job at Valentin is because of Vinnie. And it was like, what are you talking about? Could it have been that kind of a misunderstanding that it was leaked to Tucker? It could have been because when Chris says, how come he haven't asked him?

• 57:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, Tucker was kind of like, well, I don't know, maybe I ought to talk. And Cotton's coming out talking about it. I don't know. There's, there's many things, many angles here with this one.

• 57:19Speaker 04

  Do you think, Pat, do you think honestly, in this four years, we're going to get anything about JFK? And anything about Epstein and anything about nine 11? And I'm, I'm not talking about that little stupid thing where they have influencers, look at my fake stupid.

• 57:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you this. Do you think for RFK Junior? Do you think for RFK Junior, is it important that? That information of what happened to his father and his uncle be, be public? Or do you think he would be happy that if just he knew about it and the world never found out?

• 57:54Speaker 04

  I think as, as a relative, especially in that system, he'd want to know. Private, I would take the private over anything.

• 58:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think somebody from Trump's camp could sell RFK for saying? You better want to know the truth will show to you, but you can't ever tell anybody?

• 58:08Speaker 04

  Probably.

• 58:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he'd be okay with that? Or you think he would want the world to know what happened?

• 58:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he's, I think he's a crusader. I think RFK Junior feels to me like a true crusader.

• 58:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Which means what?

• 58:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think he could be bought like that.

• 58:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, what I'm saying is, do you think to him, it's important that only he finds out? For his own reasoning to be resolved? Or do you think he wants the world to find out?

• 58:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he wants the world to find out.

• 58:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so if he wants the world to find out, then I think the Kennedy stuff's going to come out because he's got a heavy duty job. Position. So that has to come out. The Epstein stuff? I, I don't know if the Epstein stuff's going to come out the way you're thinking it's going to.

• 58:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree. Well, why is he, why is he calling out Tom Cotton for a very specific reason? Tom is the.

• 58:49Adam Sosnick?

  Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It's a pretty high up position. So I think he enlisted in the army after nine 11. I think you want to say he's maybe in his early 40s. He's a pretty stoic, straightforward guy. If you've ever heard him speak.

• 59:03Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the first time I've heard anything bad about Cotton.

• 59:05Adam Sosnick?

  He's not sort of like bombastic and out there like a Josh Hawley. And they're similar.

• 59:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And I like Hawley.

• 59:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, I love him.

• 59:11Adam Sosnick?

  So Tom Cotton, very stoic. By the way, he does interviews on Meet the Press on MSNBC all the time, pushing back against Kristen Walker. He'll get out there. So I'm going to take Tom Cotton at his word that he actually has been communicating with Tucker. Tucker knows how to stir the pot a little bit. I've never heard Tom Cotton's name in relation to these types of things. Whether it's nine 11, whether it's the Epstein, whether it's RFK, whether it's JFK, whatever it is. What I know about Tom Cotton has been a staunch advocate for Trump. Super hawkish on China. I think he wrote a book called Seven Things You Can't Say About China, something to that effect. He's all about banning Tik Tok. He wants China out of our policies.

• 59:56Adam Sosnick?

  Very hawkish on the border, very hawkish on foreign policy. Tom Cotton. Exactly. So this is the first time I'm hearing that there's anything contingent on this. But why is he doing? Why is Tucker calling him out? Because Tom Cotton is the head of this chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. That's why.

• 1:00:15Speaker 04

  And Tucker's fed up, dude. I mean, I'm with Tucker though, because Tucker, I don't think Tucker just made this out of thin air.

• 1:00:21Adam Sosnick?

  He hasn't slept in weeks, guys.

• 1:00:22Speaker 04

  What I'm saying is, I don't think Tucker made that out of, Tucker's like, listen, this is a fact. I'm speaking with the person that was supposed to get the job to give us what we want. But he's been held back because of Tom Cotton. That's why it's such a weird thing because it's like, you don't just make that up. These are, I think, facts that Tucker knows that Chris pushed them. And I'm happy Chris did it. And that's why he was like, well, if you know this and you know this, and he went, Tom Cotton of Arkansas.

• 1:00:45Adam Sosnick?

  Well, can.

• 1:00:46Speaker 04

  Boom.

• 1:00:46Adam Sosnick?

  Consider this. You know how they're rewriting maybe the definition of recession? Maybe they're rewriting the definition of day one. Maybe day one.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  It's going to be day 500.

• 1:00:59Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, 100.

• 1:01:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me say this to you. So Rob, do you have the Anna Paulina clip? Uh, her calling it disturbing, calls out the DOJ silence, urges Bondi to release the full Epstein files. This is Anna Paulina Luna calling out the DOJ silence on Epstein. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:01:18Speaker 04

  The Epstein files, Congresswoman.

• 1:01:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, I'm really actually happy that you asked that question. So I was tasked with the task force on declassification to look forward and investigate the files once they are released from the Attorney General's office. Now, I want to be clear about something. What we've found in the last couple of weeks and what's definitely apparent is there's absolutely a war taking place in the intelligence agencies, right? We saw the CIA was reporting that they're worried about their own people leaking secrets to foreign countries. And we were also notified last week that there was a whistleblower that came forward stating that there was evidence being destroyed at the FBI. As soon as the FBI found out President Trump won the election, they started their deep state nonsense. And so I have full faith in Cash Patel and AG Bondi to deliver those files. But I want to be very clear about something.

• 1:02:07Tom Ellsworth?

  The American people want the truth. We don't want redactions. And although we are same team, I'm going to continue to press for that transparency because that is exactly what the American people asked for when they elected President Trump.

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  Good.

• 1:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for her, by the way. And check this out. Okay, the story continues in different places. Frustrations mount at Attorney General Bondi and Cash Patel as the Justice Department faces backlash over the botched Epstein files release. People are asking on social, we still haven't gotten the Epstein files. Where are the files? JFK, MLK? Bondi told Fox News on Sean Hannity on Monday that Patel delivered a truckload of evidence on Friday at 8:00 a.m., admitting she was misled initially and promising more release after redactions amid a truckload of documents. Sunday, March 9th was a very special day because it marked the deadline for DNI, the top U.S. intelligence overseer, and Bondi to submit plans for releasing files on RFK

• 1:03:02Patrick Bet-David?

  and Martin Luther King assassinations as ordered by President Trump in January, who said present, present a plan for their full and complete release within 45 days. And that was March 9th. Vinnie?

• 1:03:15Speaker 04

  I'm just, listen, I have, I, these are one of those things, Pat, that this is the hill that I'll die on because I'm sick and tired of them keep pushing it and keep walking it back. I remember the video. I remember Glenn Beck sitting next to us going, oh. I know this and this is gonna happen and Cash Patel saying on day one. So now, since we are where we are right now and they're holding that back. It leads us to believe everything that we believe to be true is true. They're not releasing Epstein list because the people that were there are still here and they're still in power. Okay, it's not Trump, it's not these people, it's all the people that are around him. All these people that are embedded in government that have like all these allegedly Reid Hoffman and all these people that have been anti-Trump and putting all this money in to get Trump.

• 1:03:59Speaker 04

  Cash Patel in his own words, day one, what happened? I'm curious, I wanted to ask them, what happened? You promised us day one, we've been sitting here with our freaking hands folded like a bunch of idiots. You're making us look stupid because the other side's like, okay, see, we told you Trump is involved or this is involved or that's involved. It's just bullshit. It's just, it drives me freaking crazy because we were lied to and now we look like idiots. Pisses me off.

• 1:04:22Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this, Rob?

• 1:04:23Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a montage of Cash Patel talking about what he would do on day one.

• 1:04:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:04:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the Epstein black book like on day one. On day one, roll out the black book.

• 1:04:36Tom Ellsworth?

  So will you work with me on this issue so we know? Who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in building the sex trafficking rings? Absolutely, Senator. Child sex trafficking has no place in the United States of America and I will do everything if confirmed as FBI director. To make sure the American public knows the full weight of what happened in the past.

• 1:04:59Speaker 04

  And what happened? Who, who talked, think about it, all this talk, now you're the head of the FBI. Who goes into your office and goes, oh, by the way, everything that you were saying? Shut up. He hasn't made, I haven't heard, have you heard him speak since? Have you heard anybody, have you heard, have you heard a peep from Cash Patel? Have you heard a peep of any of, any of these people that promised us, Pat? That drives me insane. I know they're busy, I know they're doing their job, I know they can't do interviews, I know they can't do podcasts, but where, where are you at? Where are we? Day one?

• 1:05:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question, Tom, and, and this goes to, to the audience, I'm curious, Rob, if you wanna run a poll or just kinda ask the question. What were the top three issues of why you supported Trump? Top three issues, not like the hill to die on, like I voted for this. If you were to say one is this, two is this, three is this, what was it for you?

• 1:05:49Adam Sosnick?

  Want me to do it?

• 1:05:50Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have it, go for it if you got it.

• 1:05:51Adam Sosnick?

  The border?

• 1:05:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:05:52Adam Sosnick?

  For sure. Wokeness?

• 1:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:05:55Adam Sosnick?

  For sure.

• 1:05:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:05:57Adam Sosnick?

  And then I would say, um, just having moral clarity and making, literally making America great again and bringing back patriotism to our country.

• 1:06:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What was your style?

• 1:06:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Mine was absolutely, and by the way, I used to say it when Amy and I would do our polling things, I would say, hey, look, I don't have an opinion on the poll, but I have strong opinions about Tom the voter. I was all about all of the wokeness that had infected companies, that affected schools, potentially infect my daughter and her admissions, and the border number one. And I had those right together.

• 1:06:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's two. What's three?

• 1:06:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And there wasn't a number three. The economy was like number four and a half for me.

• 1:06:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so you don't have a three? So it's?

• 1:06:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No, because those were so intense, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:06:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it. So woke, so woke and the border?

• 1:06:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Crazy liberalism was my one and two.

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  Vinnie? I, I, my number one, and I, the border is a horrible situation. I wanted to know, because we can't figure out where we are right now till we know how the hell we got here. Okay? Plain and simple. Epstein, lies, J, okay, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but JFK murdering a sitting president.

• 1:07:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your three?

• 1:07:04Speaker 04

  My third one, uh, DEI, BLM.

• 1:07:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So number one was what?

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  All, all the, JFK, nine 11, all the tragedies of this country.

• 1:07:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's your number one?

• 1:07:13Speaker 04

  That's my number.

• 1:07:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Number one was secrets.

• 1:07:14Speaker 04

  All the secrets I wanted to hear promised. Two, border, border security.

• 1:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And three?

• 1:07:19Speaker 04

  Three, DEI, BLM, all that racist bullshit.

• 1:07:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So by the way, guys, if you're watching this, can you put it in the PBD podcast circle if you got it? I know we have guys that are commenting, Thomas DeVito commented on Biden touching Melania's back. Jara Hitchens has commented there as well. Can you guys comment here on what your three were? I'm curious. In the circle, if you haven't downloaded it yet, go download the app, join the PBD podcast circle. I'm gonna be, we're involved here, communication wise. So what, so when you think about this, this is where I'm going with this. Where I'm going with this is.

• 1:07:52Patrick Bet-David?

  If I am Trump's camp and I if if we ever ran the White House and if we were ever presidents, you know what division of ours will be the biggest one? We would have a team of 50 business analysts, data analysts. I mean, we would be look, our our biggest budget, I would pay myself to have a lot of data analysts, right? And I would ask myself, how many people are like Vinnie? Tom, what percentage of people do you think exactly what I figured it was? Look at that. It's only 10% of people that are like you, Vinnie.

• 1:08:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:27Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the part. It's only 10%. Look at that.

• 1:08:30Adam Sosnick?

  Look at border.

• 1:08:31Patrick Bet-David?

  28% is the economy, 29% is the woke, and border is 33. Okay? So when when you look at some, that's how many voters, 2,300 voters? Okay, and that's our audience that we're talking about.

• 1:08:44Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's qualified audience that were polling this because they wanted this, right? So you're looking at where the numbers are at, where where people are at. Okay. So if that's the case, and no one has ever been able to become president and hit 100% of all the issues, if they fumble this one, they're like, wow, we missed this one, we didn't hit it. They're gonna lose a guy like you, okay, when that happens, but they gotta see what's more important to them today. Can you go back to the one that you had, Rob, by the way? Can you go back to the poll that you just had?

• 1:09:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I just ended the poll.

• 1:09:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you ended the poll.

• 1:09:16Tom Ellsworth?

  I did. I can give you the results. So in total, securing the border, 33%. That's in first place. Second place, battling the woke agenda at 28%. In third place, making the economy great again, 27%. And in 10%, the.

• 1:09:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's score each one of them so far in the first, whatever, how long? So January 20th, February 20th, it's November 10th, March 10th. Let's just say we're at 40, 50, however many days we got, right? How would you score the JFK Epstein files being dropped? Zero to 10? I think it's zero, right?

• 1:09:45Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's incomplete right now, right?

• 1:09:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. You're never gonna. But they said on day one.

• 1:09:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you say day one, it's zero.

• 1:09:51Adam Sosnick?

  Redefining the word.

• 1:09:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No problem. Number two, how would you score the economy?

• 1:09:55Adam Sosnick?

  Um, not great right now, but I, I, I give it a five, but I'm optimistic about how it's playing out.

• 1:10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I give it a seven because I, I understand when you want to change something around. If you want to change a complaint in a company to teach a new habit, it takes 90 days. If you want to do it to a country, imagine how long that'll take. It's gonna take a minute.

• 1:10:16Adam Sosnick?

  I'm on the same page.

• 1:10:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So, uh, border, how are we doing with the border?

• 1:10:18Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I think it's doing great. 10 out of 10, 9 out of 10.

• 1:10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a 9 out of 10.

• 1:10:22Adam Sosnick?

  But that was his number one priority.

• 1:10:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure. How do you score the woke, the, the craziness?

• 1:10:26Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, that's also being dismantled.

• 1:10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the point. So what we're saying is, you can't, like, a guy has 32 points, 9 rebounds, 1 assist, 4 turnovers, and all we're talking about is, all we're talking about is this guy had no blocks and no steals.

• 1:10:43Adam Sosnick?

  He had no assists, he had no assists.

• 1:10:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And what, which, which by the way, to, to a defensive coach, guess what's the most important? You guys, you didn't play defense. You had no blocks, you had no steals, none of this stuff, right? So I, in my eyes, they're like, well, listen, maybe we can, don't get me wrong. For a guy like me, I want to know exactly what happened with Epstein. I want to know exactly what happened with that list. I want to know exactly what happened with, you know, John F. Kennedy, MLK. I want to know exactly what happened there. But for whatever reason, Vinny, every time somebody that becomes a president claims they're gonna release that, every single time, someone, I want to know who is that person, like you said earlier.

• 1:11:21Adam Sosnick?

  That's the, that's my thing.

• 1:11:22Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that meeting look like for them to be able to say, here's, let me role play one for you. And tell me if this makes sense.

• 1:11:28Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead.

• 1:11:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:11:29Adam Sosnick?

  Who am I, who am I gonna be?

• 1:11:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're the president.

• 1:11:31Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:11:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm that guy that nobody knows about.

• 1:11:33Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  President Trump, I think it's time for that meeting.

• 1:11:37Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:11:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, you know, there are things that happen behind closed doors to run the biggest country in the world that people can never know about. If they did, it would disrupt the entire nation. Do you understand that? I think I do. Okay. There are certain things that we've done in the history of our country for us to deal with evil in ways that we have to hold them accountable. You know what is one of the ways? Bribery. We have intel on certain people that if we leak that to the public, if we leak that to the public, we lose that leverage that we have with them. And we can't. And some of them are your allies. Let me tell you who we have here. Here. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

• 1:12:19Speaker 04

  I know some of those people.

• 1:12:20Patrick Bet-David?

  These are your guys. If you release it all, we have to release all of this to the public. Some of those guys are your friends. What do you want to do?

• 1:12:27Speaker 04

  Well, they're not going to be happy with me, so I guess I'm not gonna...

• 1:12:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So how about we set this aside as an issue for now? And we have a method on how to release it so you don't lose credibility. But let's move on from this topic. Here's what we're gonna be doing. You're gonna hear a guy say this. You're gonna hear a guy say that. You want to be able to say something like this, and then we're moving on. Make sense? A meeting like that takes place to say, you have a job that's very complex and complicated. We're not gonna talk about this stuff. Because we have leverage over certain people. You don't think America has worked with other agencies, Mossad?

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:13:00Patrick Bet-David?

  MI6, all these... Yeah, I mean, the... For me to believe that Mossad is innocent, and CIA is innocent, and MI6 is innocent. The stuff that these guys have on people, they work day and night. You think J. Edgar Hoover's documentary on why he never dropped anything on the mob? The mob doesn't exist. There is no such thing as the mafia. There is no such thing as organized crime. Oh, really? Why is that? Because they knew you were a cross dresser behind closed doors? You don't want that to be leaked?

• 1:13:24Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I just think it's a great, um, exercise of what you did in polling our audience. Because I think our audience is very much so. Who voted for Trump? I think it is telling that only 10% wanted what Vinny wants. I understand why Vinny is so passionate about this. But this goes on cash. Trump didn't, uh, get out there and basically promote the fact that he's gonna do all this. He didn't campaign on this. This was Cash's hilt to die on. So Vinny needs to hold Cash accountable. By the way, I've been hearing this woman's name, Anna Paulina Luna?

• 1:14:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:14:00Adam Sosnick?

  For months? This is the first time I've seen her. Uh, I get it now, why people want to keep, continue talking about her. Because you know, they say that, uh, DC is Hollywood for ugly people? Well, not for her. I think she's a great person to basically be the representative, um, of the House Oversight Committee Task Force for Declassification. Talk about making America great again. Good for her. By the way, there's a report out there that says that Republican women are more attractive

• 1:14:32Speaker 04

  Duh.

• 1:14:33Adam Sosnick?

  than Democrat women.

• 1:14:34Speaker 04

  Been saying that.

• 1:14:34Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, if you look at Kristi Noem, if you look at Pam Bond.

• 1:14:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at what robbed it for you.

• 1:14:38Adam Sosnick?

  If you look at, if you look at Laura Trump, if you look at our girl Tulsi.

• 1:14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I think she's from Miami, isn't she?

• 1:14:44Speaker 04

  I think.

• 1:14:45Adam Sosnick?

  She's doing, making Miami great again.

• 1:14:46Speaker 04

  Panhandle.

• 1:14:47Adam Sosnick?

  If you look at.

• 1:14:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Panhandle?

• 1:14:48Adam Sosnick?

  She's in this area.

• 1:14:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright.

• 1:14:49Adam Sosnick?

  If you look at Lauren Boebert.

• 1:14:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're gonna have to talk to her.

• 1:14:52Adam Sosnick?

  If you look at Ivanka and you look at Melania, wow!

• 1:14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Anna Paulina Luna.

• 1:14:55Adam Sosnick?

  Republicans are making women great again.

• 1:14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Realize he is single.

• 1:14:59Speaker 04

  I think she's married. I think she is married, though.

• 1:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she married?

• 1:15:01Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, I'm not trying to creep.

• 1:15:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Go down a little bit lower.

• 1:15:04Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not trying to be TLC.

• 1:15:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Go down a little lower to see if she is married.

• 1:15:06Adam Sosnick?

  It's okay, it's okay, don't worry about it. I think we're in her district right now.

• 1:15:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Hang on one second, let's just see if she's married.

• 1:15:12Adam Sosnick?

  She's probably married.

• 1:15:14Speaker 04

  Oh, wait a minute, don't the Dems have Elizabeth Warren and Lisa Murkowski?

• 1:15:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she married or no? Okay, she's married, let's move on.

• 1:15:20Adam Sosnick?

  And she's a messianic Jewish Christian, and we can get the best of both worlds. You're absolutely right, and look at what the Democrats have.

• 1:15:25Speaker 04

  And she's married?

• 1:15:26Adam Sosnick?

  They got Elizabeth Warren.

• 1:15:27Speaker 04

  How did you miss that?

• 1:15:27Adam Sosnick?

  They got Maxine Waters, they got Nancy Pelosi, they got Hillary Clinton. The best they got is AOC. I'll take a Republican chick any day.

• 1:15:37Speaker 04

  But my two things is this, don't make a promise if you're not gonna keep it. I knew he was gonna come in and do the border, but those three issues, man, like, and you know, I, I didn't see it in that light, but I'm talking about, like, 9/11, if there's six pages or nine pages.

• 1:15:51Adam Sosnick?

  I know.

• 1:15:52Speaker 04

  Oh, man, the implications are, and then, and then that's why they call people like us crazies, oh, you guys have all these theories. No, no, we have these theories because you guys are lying, and you're keeping it.

• 1:16:02Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny, I like you, man, but you're crazy, man, you gotta dart your neck, bro. Yeah, I like you, man. But damn, Vinny, you're crazy.

• 1:16:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Doesn't it make you believe that there is a shadow government? It makes you believe that there is the shadow government underneath. And remember Tucker, we went up to Maine, the mosquito capital of Earth, apparently. Remember we were up there? Oh my gosh. Well, we were up there in the same cabin in there. Great conversation with him, great dinner. And he made some comments to us at dinner that he's also repeated since then on other people's podcasts that, he says, you know, Congress is scared to death. You talk to the average congressperson, they are scared to death of what? The intelligence communities, absolutely scared to death. That when something comes up, the invisible hand reaches out, they're trying to call a shot and the shot gets pulled back. And this is Tucker, who would know?

• 1:16:50Adam Sosnick?

  Well, your good friend Chuck Schumer said, if you mess with the intelligence community, they got six ways to Sunday to get back to you.

• 1:16:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story.

• 1:16:57Tom Ellsworth?

  If Chuck Schumer is my good friend, I'm taking him hunting and I'm going to feed Dick Cheney.

• 1:17:01Adam Sosnick?

  Dick Cheney.

• 1:17:02Speaker 04

  Dick Cheney.

• 1:17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story.

• 1:17:03Adam Sosnick?

  Dick Carlson, fucker's dad.

• 1:17:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's a Fox news story going off of Thomas Massey. American sympathies for Israel fall to record low numbers. Poll finds, Adam, I hope you're ready for this. Here we go. All right. So Gallup poll from February 3rd to 16, 2025 reveals, American sympathies for Israel and Israel Hamas war has dropped to a record low 46%. Down from 51 in 2024 with the question, the Middle East situation, are your sympathies more with Israelis or more with the Palestinians? Showing the poll support for Israel in 25 years of annual polling by Gallup, a well-known research organization. Support for Palestinians has risen to 33%.

• 1:17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  A six percentage point increase from 2024, the highest in over two decades. While a partisan divide shows 83% of Republicans view Israel very mostly favorable compared to 48% independents and 33% of Democrats amid a temporary ceasefire and hostage exchange between Israel and Hamas, the Palestinian militant group controlling Gaza. Adam, why do you think this is?

• 1:18:09Adam Sosnick?

  American sympathies for Israelis fall to record low. You know, this is why you can't necessarily look at the headlines. Record low from 51 down to 46. Okay, they lost five points. Great. But I'll ask you a question. Would you rather be liked or feared? Would you rather be liked or respected? I would argue that I'd rather be feared and respected. If I'm Israel, now I'm American, but I'm Jewish and I'm definitely pro-Israel. I feel like they've tried to be liked for a little too long. At this point, do you see what's going on with Christians in Syria? Do you see what's going on with Islamic Jihadism in Sudan?

• 1:18:54Adam Sosnick?

  Do you see what's going on with Boko Haram? Do you see what's going on with Hezbollah? You're not dealing with a typical, just, you know, bully. These are people that are willing to die for a cause and take out you, your family, your kids, your entire community for what they believe in. You know, you say that you respect the enemy? You have to respect the fact that these jihadists want to kill you. So it's kill or be killed, it's eat or be eaten. So if Israel's poll numbers are a little low in America, especially,

• 1:19:35Adam Sosnick?

  heads up, guys, within the Democratic Party, then that's okay. Second point, to my Jewish friends in America, who won't wake up and realize the Democratic Party is no longer your friend, and you're still Tikun Olam, which is trying to make peace in the world, within the Democratic Party? Time to wake up and realize Trump is the best president, best friend to Israel that maybe we've ever had. Trump, he's very clear. He's on the side of our ally, Israel, not the terrorists. It's pretty damn simple.

• 1:20:17Adam Sosnick?

  Now, whether his promises or threats are actually fulfilled, we'll still see. But I'm totally okay with not being as liked as before, because we're killing terrorists that are trying to kill us.

• 1:20:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom?

• 1:20:31Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's a couple of things here that I think create lies or create spurious data. This is a broad poll of Americans done by Gallup, broad poll. And in broad polls, you have a lot of perceptions that are in the polls and you have a lot of the informed that are in the polls and you have the very informed. So look at that, the very informed, the informed, and then those that have a perception. They're not fully informed. And with the mainstream media and what's been going on on college campuses and everything in America with this pro Palestinian bent that does not represent broad America, but does show up as broad media from the MSM, guess what you get? You get a movement.

• 1:21:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And Adam pointed something out in the numbers, absolutely correct. This is only a move from 51 to 46. This is not a cataclysmic market crash. This is nothing. And I think what we have here is a broad poll shows that the cumulative effect of the Palestinian coverage and our mainstream media has in fact moved the polls. Because how could any informed person take a look at the condition of the hostages that came back and look at these emaciated, abused people and tell me that you're sympathetic to the captors? The answer is you wouldn't be. How can you be? And so that's kind of the way I see this here. You know, this is a small movement making a big headline. There, like this.

• 1:22:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at this and tell me, how are you, how are you not sympathetic to these men who were captive and look how they were treated and look at the results? This is horrible.

• 1:22:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, I think, because it's, what was the, the thing was the decline? What was it, Tom? The, the decline of the sympathy, meaning like basically what? Feeling sorry? And I think, I think-

• 1:22:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Sympathetic.

• 1:22:22Speaker 04

  Sympathetic towards it. Well, I mean, I think there's a bunch of, there's a couple of factors and you have to start with just from the war itself. I mean, October 7th, they still, and I saw some of the fighting, I saw some in their parliament, I don't know, I don't know what their government structure is like, but they were going at Bibi, they were yelling at them about security and stuff like that about October 7th. Seventh, which we still remember, what was his name? Do you remember that guy's name? John Kirby? When they were like, what happened? Now's not the time. How we're over a year? Still no answers of how that could that day could have happened. That's one thing. But I think the sympathy is like, okay. Like, I think the high civilian, high civilian casualty of that war, of the of the ongoing war. I think people, you have to feel like people are still

• 1:23:06Speaker 04

  kind of thrown back at the way that it went. And I get, I understand, guys. Hamas is there, Hamas are terrorists. I think a lot of Americans are like, guys, we're, they're our allies. They could have gone about that war a little bit different, you know, wiping everything out, flattening Gaza. I don't think is sitting in the, in Americans. It doesn't sit well with Americans because that's the main, I think that's one of the main things is like the way that they could have done it could have been a little bit more strategic instead of just wiping out.

• 1:23:37Adam Sosnick?

  I hear you.

• 1:23:38Speaker 04

  Well, I'm just giving the answer of why they would be upset.

• 1:23:40Adam Sosnick?

  If I was, if I was Bibi Netanyahu, by the way, whose approval numbers are going up. If I was in his war cabinet, I would say, listen, man.

• 1:23:49Speaker 04

  Slow down.

• 1:23:50Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe you're going a little too hard.

• 1:23:51Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:23:52Adam Sosnick?

  And then he would say, give me can hostages back. That's our demand. Once you give us the hostages.

• 1:24:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:01Adam Sosnick?

  We will stop bombing you.

• 1:24:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I mean, these are.

• 1:24:02Adam Sosnick?

  So Hamas has a choice.

• 1:24:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:04Adam Sosnick?

  Hamas has loudly proudly. Um, the leaders of Hamas said, we're willing for our people to die for our cause. They believe in being martyrs. Yahya Sinwar has proudly said this. So they're willing to sacrifice their people. Like they talked about a genocide. Your leaders are willing to sacrifice you. So like, which way does it work? You think they give us the hostages? Okay, no. So imagine they had your children.

• 1:24:34Speaker 04

  Oh, of course. No, that's a hot.

• 1:24:35Adam Sosnick?

  Look, and you're Christian. I know how close you are to everything you believe. Vinny, do you see what's going on in Syria now?

• 1:24:42Speaker 04

  Of course. What do you mean? I was watching.

• 1:24:43Adam Sosnick?

  Do you see what's going on?

• 1:24:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:24:45Adam Sosnick?

  Those are your people.

• 1:24:46Speaker 04

  Well, the world, hold on, and the world's not talking, hold on. We talk about it. There's small groups talking about it. Why isn't it on the main stage? And why aren't, why aren't more people pissed off that Christians? Because when it's Christians, nobody gives a shit.

• 1:24:58Adam Sosnick?

  But we're talking about it now.

• 1:24:59Speaker 04

  Everybody gives a shit.

• 1:25:00Adam Sosnick?

  But hold on, let's stay here. We're talking about it now. What would you do if those are your people? You're from, you're Assyrian.

• 1:25:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:08Adam Sosnick?

  Which is Babylonian, which is modern day Iraq.

• 1:25:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:12Adam Sosnick?

  Where's your community now?

• 1:25:13Speaker 04

  We don't have those countries.

• 1:25:14Adam Sosnick?

  Why?

• 1:25:15Speaker 04

  Because we were crazy warriors and we were fighting.

• 1:25:17Adam Sosnick?

  No, because the caliphate came in and said, get out or you will die. Or pay the jizzy attacks, or your infidels. Because, and it's not all Muslims. I have great Muslim friends. But there, even if it's 1%, which is more.

• 1:25:32Speaker 04

  Out of, out of.

• 1:25:33Adam Sosnick?

  Of 2 billion people, that's 20 million people who are willing to die and sacrifice their lives to kill you. Do we have any of the videos of Syria?

• 1:25:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I do have this video.

• 1:25:45Adam Sosnick?

  They're pretty graphic, yeah.

• 1:25:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I don't know if we can show that for you.

• 1:25:47Speaker 04

  How graphic is this one?

• 1:25:48Tom Ellsworth?

  But this is an, a masked, unidentified Assyrian Christian talking about how the media is not reporting on what is going on, that there are people going through and killing women and children in the region.

• 1:25:58Adam Sosnick?

  Just for being Christian.

• 1:26:01Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:26:02Adam Sosnick?

  Kill the truth.

• 1:26:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, because I don't, I don't want anyone to see my, my face because if they see me, they will kill me. I'm from Syria. I live now in the city of Latakia. Please, please, please. The media is not showing you anything. The terrorists are killing everyone, children, women, teenagers, old people. Just killing, there is more than 100 body in my, there is more than 100 body in my village. Now even in the city, they are just taking the children and the women and kill them. I don't know what to do with my mom and my two sisters. Please you gotta help us. Nobody is talking anything about it. Not the social media or the TV channels. They are all hiding the truth.

• 1:26:47Tom Ellsworth?

  They are saying that they are killing the resistance, but this is end up 2 days ago. Please you gotta help us. They have been killing people since 2 days until now. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of bodies are thrown in the street, in the villages, and in the city of Syria. We are not allowed to go out of the house. They just come to the houses, take the people, kill them outside of the house and take all the phones. So nobody record or do anything. Please you gotta help us. I have 2, I have 2 sisters.

• 1:27:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I have 2 sisters. I don't know what to do with them. If it's okay for me if I die, but not for my 2 sisters or my mom.

• 1:27:29Patrick Bet-David?

  One of them is a teenager. Please, you gotta help us. Nobody's talking anything about it. Human rights, United Nations, anyone, America, anyone, anyone, just please help us.

• 1:27:40Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, what other clips you have that we can show? This is heartbreaking to listen to.

• 1:27:43Speaker 04

  Heartbreaking, and you know the saddest thing about it is? Nobody's gonna help them. Nobody is going to help the Christians because nobody gives a shit about us. Period. And I understand what you're saying. The question going back was, why is the sympathy for Israel getting lesser? I think it's because they're getting tired. Do the Americans get tired? Because October 7th, yay, for a year, everybody was like, it was all crazy. Now it's kind of died down. We just gave Israel another $4 billion that kind of, nobody really talked about it. And Americans are just like, you know, they're just tired of it.

• 1:28:13Adam Sosnick?

  I'm shocked you're missing the point here, brother.

• 1:28:15Speaker 04

  I didn't miss the point. I'll give you an answer of why, why are the numbers dropping by 6%?

• 1:28:20Adam Sosnick?

  That's not what I'm worried about.

• 1:28:21Speaker 04

  Well, that's what, that's what the question was.

• 1:28:23Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny.

• 1:28:23Speaker 04

  Yes, it was.

• 1:28:24Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, listen. What that guy just said is they're going around killing people indiscriminately. Why?

• 1:28:33Speaker 04

  Because they're Christians.

• 1:28:34Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:28:35Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:28:35Adam Sosnick?

  Who else are they killing?

• 1:28:37Speaker 04

  Whoever, I don't know, Adam, I didn't.

• 1:28:38Adam Sosnick?

  They're killing any minority that is not their faction of Islam. Druze, Alawites, if there's any Jews left, they're dead. So who cares if percentages of sympathies have dropped? Let's recognize what it is. Radical Islamic terrorism will exterminate an entire region. Focus on that. It's not about Jews, it's not about Christians, it's not about the Druze, it's not about the Alawites. It's about this faction of radical Islam will take out anybody in their path. By the way, did you see that clip of maybe 10 years ago? When Trump understands the difference between Assad versus whoever else is out there? Do you have that clip by any chance?

• 1:29:24Adam Sosnick?

  He says.

• 1:29:24Speaker 04

  I'll take a look.

• 1:29:25Adam Sosnick?

  He says, why does Russia support Assad? He goes, we gotta take, take out ISIS. But we have no idea who's on the other side. Well, we're finding out who's on the other side. So if you can't find that clip, maybe we can show some other clips of what's going on in Syria.

• 1:29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you have it. Check your text.

• 1:29:44Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, but.

• 1:29:47Adam Sosnick?

  You have to understand, this is what they're trying to eradicate. And this is what Israel is fighting every single day.

• 1:29:55Speaker 04

  So going back, and Adam, I understand everything that you're saying, and I agree with what you're saying. The question was, that came to me, was why is the percentage, even though it's small, going down? What does that, what does it have to, why? So you mean to tell me this is why Israel's losing sympathies? Because Syrian terrorists are killing Christians?

• 1:30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he's combining what's going on in Syria with what's going on with the camp, that same Free Palestine. He's combining those two together because they are related.

• 1:30:22Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what is this clip you're showing?

• 1:30:24Adam Sosnick?

  Terrorist sympathizers.

• 1:30:25Tom Ellsworth?

  This is what was sent, this is President Trump, I believe, 10 years ago regarding Assad.

• 1:30:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's hear the clip, go for it.

• 1:30:30Tom Ellsworth?

  So I've watched Assad, and I've...

• 1:30:32Patrick Bet-David?

  He's lost weight since then.

• 1:30:33Tom Ellsworth?

  ...a little bit on the other side. The problem is, the other side of Assad, we have no idea who they are. They probably are racist. I'm saying, are we better off with Assad? We have no idea who these people are. We give them weapons, we give them ammunition, we give them everything. Aaron, we have no idea who, I mean, maybe it's worse than Assad. So what are we doing? Why are we involved? We have to get rid of ISIS, very importantly. But I look at Assad, and Assad, to me, looks better than the other side. And you know, this has happened before. We back a certain side, and that side turns out to be a total catastrophe. Russia likes Assad, seemingly a lot. Let them worry about ISIS, let them fight it out. So I've watched Assad, and I've...

• 1:31:12Adam Sosnick?

  Let's show those clips of what's going on in Syria. If the Gays for Gaza crew and the Free Palestine crew want my respect, I want to hear you protest about what's going on to Christians. Go ahead, Palestinian Brigade, talk about what's going on Christians. Because you don't like killing of innocent people, right?

• 1:31:27Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:31:27Adam Sosnick?

  You don't like genocide, right? But they won't say shit.

• 1:31:31Speaker 04

  Nothing.

• 1:31:32Adam Sosnick?

  Because they only condemn what Israel does to other people. They don't talk about what's going on in Yemen, they don't talk about what's going on in Syria, they don't go talk about what's going on in Lebanon, they don't talk about what's going on in Sudan. All they want to talk about is when Israel bombs Hamas, or Hezbollah, or whatever they do. You want my respect, Palestinian crew? Talk about what's going on to the Christians. Then you'll have a little bit of my respect. Watch this, bark like a dog, go ahead.

• 1:32:01Adam Sosnick?

  They're making Christians crawl and bark like dogs.

• 1:32:06Speaker 04

  As they beat them and shoot them.

• 1:32:07Adam Sosnick?

  Simply for being Christians in Syria. Is that the end of the clip?

• 1:32:12Tom Ellsworth?

  There's gunshots, I don't want to.

• 1:32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me, let me give it to you from my, my angle on what's going on. So if I see the number on it's lowered, what by six points, was it five points or six points that it's lowered by? Let's say five points it's lowered by, okay. How much of that is people who are sick and tired of just giving money out to anybody, period? How much of that is the AIPAC community that they're being critical of AIPAC and how many congressmen and senators they own? How much of that is the recent, you know, virality effect on social of people saying things about how much control and power, uh, uh, what do you call it? Mossad has and Israel has? How much of that is the messaging being said about the level of bribery that they have to hold people hostage?

• 1:32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And there's a reason why Epstein, how much of that is that? I would say what? A lot. I think a lot of it is that. Okay. The poll here, our audience, 5,200 people voted, right? 5265 voted, 52, 5300 people voted, okay? 61, who, do you have more sympathy for Israelis or Palestinians? 61% Israelis, 39% Palestinians. And then the comment section is, God forbid, if you defend Israelis, you're a Zionist, you're this. They're calling Tom Israel first, he's this, he's that. So, okay. So that's the part where people nowadays are afraid of having labels on them.

• 1:33:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a bigot, you're a racist, you're a, uh, uh, what do you call it? Whatever it is, Zionist, you're this, you're that. By the way, that actually had a lot of power on a lot of people for a long time. Doesn't carry the same weight anymore today, but I'm going to give you the flip side of it. You know what's by far the best case study? Here's by far the best case study. Tate is here last week, okay? Do you know how many people message me? Screw you saying stuff about Pierre Polievier, you don't even, you're, he should never go on your podcast because of pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. You know what do you call it with, um, uh, Tate? I cannot believe you had Tate on. My challenge with Pierre is the fact that he reminded me of DeSantis and Nikki Haley.

• 1:34:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Just elitist that think they're too good to go out there and talk to anybody and I've never liked that vibe. Never. Good for DeSantis, he finally showed up, we had a great conversation together and got a lot of eyeballs. Nikki Haley never showed up, at least DeSantis showed up and he sat down, we had a conversation too. But his team was very much arrogant, like they're already like, they're already a president. I don't like that vibe. I've never liked that vibe since I was a kid. But watch this. Uh, what's his name comes here on the podcast, Andrew Tate.

• 1:34:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And I asked him about what's going on with Israel, UK, Muslim, Islam, everything, okay? Cause he made some comments about Muslims on what's going on in UK. If you're not gonna live the way UK lives, get the hell out. Who's he talking to? Muslims?

• 1:35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know how many people reacted on the podcast that we had? How many Muslim podcasts reacted to what Tate said about Jews and Muslims? And criticizing him for giving a reasonable answer?

• 1:35:18Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of them.

• 1:35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What was his reason, what was his answer? What did he say? Do you remember what he said?

• 1:35:21Adam Sosnick?

  Stop blaming Israel for everything. They're not your problem. Your arms look skinny. Is that Israel's fault? Hit the gym loser.

• 1:35:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, so the point, the point there, the point there is that in the Middle East, Israel has negotiated better. Israel has better terms. Israel has a better community of people that are getting them to pass policies that favor Israel. You're naive if you don't believe that's what's taking place. Of course that is what's taking place with the level of negotiation they have. Guess what they do? They invest more money in education in their kids. They invest more money into getting their guys to be bought into their country. They get their people to go back to Israel. They'll pay for the school, they'll travel you back because they want to do what? They want to engrain that culture in you so you love who you are. By the way, I wish Assyrians did that. I wish Armenians did that. I wish everybody did that.

• 1:36:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But no, they're upset that those guys are doing that. And for me, when I see something like this, all I think about is this. Who makes communities better? Who makes communities better? You can say whatever you want. Who makes communities better? Jewish people. No, did Jewish people ruin UK? Nope. Did Armenians ruin UK? Nope. Did blacks ruin UK? Nope. Who was it? What is it? What's the most common name right now in UK? Mohammed.

• 1:36:41Speaker 04

  It is Mohammed.

• 1:36:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Why is stabbing so high? Why has the culture changed so much? Who did that? Jews did that? Why is Poland training their people the way they are? Because they don't want it. Because they know what happens when you culturally try to change somebody. And I'm sorry, you can be uncomfortable talking about this. Stats, you hate stats? That's the stats. You want to talk about who Planned Parenthood destroyed the most? You ever seen the interview with Sanger on what she says about? What she says? Margaret Sanger? Yeah, you ever seen what she says about abortion and blacks? And how she? Tom hates, Tom hates. I know Tom showed it to me. Have you ever actually seen her in an interview on what she says? Rob, if you have this clip with her?

• 1:37:26Tom Ellsworth?

  If you have it, watch her eyes, everyone. Watch her eyes.

• 1:37:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the interview? Go for it, Rob. What is she saying here?

• 1:37:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe so. I can play it. I have not listened to it yet.

• 1:37:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I think this is the clip. Watch this interview. Go for it.

• 1:37:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Eyes are the window of the soul.

• 1:37:41Tom Ellsworth?

  When I say believe, I don't mean to believe in committing sin. Do you believe there is such a thing as a?

• 1:37:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This is it.

• 1:37:45Tom Ellsworth?

  As sin? Well, I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world. That have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically. Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things, just marked when they're born. That to me is the greatest sin that people can commit. But sin in the ordinary sense that we regard it, do you believe or do you not believe? Well, what would they be? Do you believe in infidelity as a sin? Well, I'm not going to specify what I think is sin. I've stated what I think is the worst sin. Yes, but then you asked me to say what? And I said what? And you refused to answer me? Ah, yes, I don't know about infidelity. It has so many personalities to it and what person's own belief is.

• 1:38:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So statistically, what community gets the most abortions in America?

• 1:38:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think she was for blacks?

• 1:38:38Adam Sosnick?

  Absolutely not.

• 1:38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You think she was for blacks? You can sit there and statistically look at things and get to an argument and say, you know what? I'm sorry, you can say whatever you want. This is not favoring your argument, period. So to me, I understand whatever's happened. I think people are just burned out with helping out Ukraine. They're just burned out with helping out. They're just burned out, Israel. They're just burned out with so many of it. They're just like, listen, can we just move on? I, I think a big portion of the people that were voting, I will say a bigger portion of Democrats and independents that voted for Trump, they actually didn't want war. They wanted peace. Those guys, top three, I'm willing to bet if we asked them who voted for Trump, they want a security. They wanted these things to be done. They were afraid of World War III. What's, what's this clip you got here from the Shah, by the way?

• 1:39:24Adam Sosnick?

  Well, this is the Shah, probably, what year did he die?

• 1:39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty-one, I give or take.

• 1:39:31Adam Sosnick?

  So this is probably in the mid to late seventies, I'm assuming, where his opinion on what's going on with the Palestinians, go ahead. Turn to the Palestinians. The Palestinians obviously had the sympathy of many, many people, many, almost all the countries in the world. Prosecuted people, stateless people, looking for a home or something. You know, exactly like the sympathy that the Jews had when they were searching for a home. Right. But our good Palestinian friends must know that there is only a limit to where they can go and bully the world. Bully the world?

• 1:40:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, by terrorism and blackmailing and this and that. You know perfectly well, Your Majesty, that the leaders of the Arab world find the Palestinians as much a problem almost as the Israelis do. Isn't that a fact? What I can say is that they should really open their eyes, reassert their situation. And if there is a hierarchy and someone there in command.

• 1:40:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Of the Palestinians, you mean?

• 1:40:45Adam Sosnick?

  Of the Palestinians, to start a new policy, because the actual one is going to lead them nowhere.

• 1:40:53Tom Ellsworth?

  With whom do they really have understanding? With Assad, with Sadat, with Hussein?

• 1:41:00Adam Sosnick?

  That's a very good question.

• 1:41:02Tom Ellsworth?

  They have none with any of these leaders?

• 1:41:05Adam Sosnick?

  Not to my knowledge.

• 1:41:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And they seem to be out of control.

• 1:41:09Adam Sosnick?

  It seems so, today.

• 1:41:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And what about the Arab leader who supports the Palestinians?

• 1:41:15Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I think it's so telling, he was giving them advice. That you do have certain sympathies around the world. I think it's interesting that this article talks about American sympathies for Israel versus the Palestinians. He was giving our Palestinian friends a heads up. He said, "There are certain people in the world that have sympathies for you. But you're not gonna bully the world." He used very specific terms, speaks very eloquently. "You're not gonna create terrorism, you're not gonna blackmail people. You're creating bigger problem than you are solving the problem." He says, "I highly suggest you reassess your situation and develop a better policy and better strategy

• 1:41:58Adam Sosnick?

  that will hopefully put you in a better place." I'll ask you this, has their policy changed at all? If anything, it's gotten worse. They have not tried to negotiate, they have not accepted any sort of peace deal. They're in a worse situation than they were in the 70s. They have not chose their enemy wisely in the capacity that they have zero game plan. Their game plan, from what it seems, is to attack, lose, cry victim, wait a few years.

• 1:42:36Adam Sosnick?

  Attack, lose, cry victim. It's going on for perpetuity. And he called it out right there. And it's been 40 years since then. And nothing's changed.

• 1:42:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, listen, for what it's worth. If you spend some time watching clips of the Shah. I've watched anything and everything I can find over the years. You will realize how safe the Middle East was when he was running.

• 1:43:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, they got along with everybody.

• 1:43:04Adam Sosnick?

  They were the second country after the United States, Iran, to recognize the state of Israel in 1940.

• 1:43:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, I know.

• 1:43:11Adam Sosnick?

  And the revolution that has spread since 1979 has been one of the worst traits of the world. All caused by the Ayatollah.

• 1:43:21Speaker 04

  And guess what? Saddam Hussein, say what the hell you want about him. He kept all those freaking people in check. All right, it was until we did an illegal war and took his ass, made them hang his ass. And then what happened to the Middle East? So, thank you.

• 1:43:33Adam Sosnick?

  It's almost like what's worse, an autocrat? Or jihadist?

• 1:43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next clip here. Let's go to the next clip. Let's go to the next clip. All right, so Whoopi Goldberg and The View. So, this is the International Women's Day. On International Women's Day, do you know who The View has as a guest? You ready? Let me guess. Dylan Mulvaney for International Women's Day. And they wonder why they keep losing Democrats. They wonder why they keep losing Democrats. But you have to hear what Whoopi said here. I just want to get your thoughts. I asked everybody, guys, how did you take this thing here? When you watch it yourself? And Rob was giving me his perspective. I want to know what you think about it. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. When you come in and you say, oh, you know, these men, these are men, you know.

• 1:44:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Competing against women. Competing against women. You're assuming that the women are weak and just can't do anything.

• 1:44:28Adam Sosnick?

  Have you seen female athletes? They know what they're doing. So I'm not sure what's going on or why this is an issue.

• 1:44:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:44:42Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, Rob. So I remember having a conversation with a woman who was incredibly woke. And I said, at what point, when a man wants to identify as a woman, do you accept it? She goes, right away. I said, so right away, once they identify as something, you're willing to allow them to be the gender that they... So I said, so I'm a dude, right? She goes, yeah. And I go, but now I'm a woman. She goes, okay. I go, am I a woman now? She goes, yeah, if you feel that way. I go, no, I'm fucking not. I'm a dude. So like, what game are we playing? And she got very upset with me.

• 1:45:26Adam Sosnick?

  And I go, excuse me, don't talk to a lady that way. And now I started mocking her. But I realized the absurdity of her, however you feel, you can identify. Rob, here's a picture of Dylan Mulvaney just a few years ago. Let me know if you have this. I sent it to you via text. So...

• 1:45:48Adam Sosnick?

  It's in your text.

• 1:45:49Speaker 04

  Well, he's still a dude. Can we just make this clear? He's a dude.

• 1:45:52Adam Sosnick?

  It's a dude playing dress up.

• 1:45:54Speaker 04

  He has testicles underneath that dress. So it's the view all checks and a dude, a well shaved dude. Let's just not forget, guys. Don't let them fool you.

• 1:46:04Adam Sosnick?

  That's who he was just a few... It was just a dude holding tampons in his hand. So they just had a vote in Congress about banning men from women's sports. I think 100% of the Republicans voted against it.

• 1:46:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I guess the question I got is Whoopi's perspective. What is Whoopi saying? Do you have opinions on what Whoopi said?

• 1:46:27Speaker 04

  I think Whoopi's, Whoopi's basically making the case as like, men, men competing in there? As if women can't step up and actually compete with these men. That's, that's how delusional and how stupid, that's why you notice the audience, nobody's clapping. Even Dylan's, him and his testicles have no idea what the hell is going on or what she's saying. It's, it's, it's complete lunacy.

• 1:46:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have the high jump, uh, uh, the, the, the guy that decides to go compete with ladies and how he performed against the ladies?

• 1:46:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Triple jump, triple jump last week.

• 1:47:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, triple jump, if you have the clip, Rob.

• 1:47:03Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you're pulling up, did you see the guy that, the woman that dunked on the chick? And like, basically put his nuts in her face?

• 1:47:11Speaker 04

  Balls in her face?

• 1:47:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, he's like...

• 1:47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you, can you pull up that clip, Rob? What clip is he talking about?

• 1:47:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at the triple jump.

• 1:47:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam watches interesting videos.

• 1:47:19Adam Sosnick?

  Unfortunately, these videos exist at this point.

• 1:47:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at this dude. This is triple jump and it's set up for women. This is set up for women.

• 1:47:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's a guy.

• 1:47:29Speaker 04

  That's a dude.

• 1:47:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there interview afterwards?

• 1:47:31Speaker 04

  That's just wrong.

• 1:47:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there audio, Rob? We can hear that or, uh?

• 1:47:36Tom Ellsworth?

  I have plenty of the interview.

• 1:47:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the interview. Let's hear the interview, what he says.

• 1:47:40Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, just playing dress up. Valley High School, amazing, three wins today. What was the SMR? SMR, a long triple and then I have high later. And then you still got the high jump. Amazing performances so far. How are you feeling just about the day when today at Ontario Relays? I'm very excited. I don't know.

• 1:47:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this a guy?

• 1:47:58Speaker 04

  That's a...

• 1:47:58Adam Sosnick?

  I was like, oh, maybe I'm not gonna do as good as triple, but I'm glad that I performed pretty well and I'm just excited. What do you think really clicked today?

• 1:48:07Speaker 04

  You know what this is, Matt? This is, this is, oh yeah, this is, besides the insanity part of it?

• 1:48:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:12Speaker 04

  Besides the insanity, these dudes are just lazy pieces of you know what. You are, because you cannot compete against other men...

• 1:48:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question.

• 1:48:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:48:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That person, is, she, she's in high school, right?

• 1:48:26Speaker 04

  You mean he?

• 1:48:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he's in high school. How much of him behaving that way is his parents? How much of it is him?

• 1:48:31Speaker 04

  I think a lot of it comes to either trauma or something happened in his life where he, he's... Didn't deal with the actual problem that was going on.

• 1:48:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage you put on the parents?

• 1:48:41Speaker 04

  I put 80% on the parents.

• 1:48:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what percentage you put on the parents?

• 1:48:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm with him. I put 70, 80% on the parents on the enabling side. And then I put 30% on some sort of trauma or crisis. We started questioning himself. And there's the outcome, America. There's the outcome. Where we now think feelings are okay. Your feelings, whatever feelings you have. So we're gonna ratify your feelings and saying, you're okay. But there's a hell of a jump, no pun intended, from your feelings are okay and trying to, you know, make somebody not feel bad, which is not the way to handle these things. And then say, oh, and you also want to do other things now that you feel this way? Well, certainly I don't want you to feel bad, so I'm gonna let you do them. Wait a minute. Now you've discriminated against a whole group of people.

• 1:49:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I put it right. To your question, I'm 70% parents, 30%. There's some sort of a crisis or something caused that individual.

• 1:49:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me do this. Let me do this. While we're moving on from this. Rob, can you pull up the Bernie Sanders concert clip and who he brings up, okay? This is why you're losing people. This is why the Democrat... Did you hear what Van Jones said yesterday? We'll go to the Van Jones clip afterwards, but if you can find that clip. Vinny, do you have the concert you texted to?

• 1:49:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, Rob, did I?

• 1:50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  There is one specific one with the key word.

• 1:50:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was a trans. I actually wrote this down. Let me write it down. So Bernie Sanders had a transgender singer, Laura Jane Grace, performed at his rally. And you know what? I'm not gonna say it because it was blasphemous. It was disrespectful and should not be celebrated. The song was, and Rob, trust me, you don't want to play it. You're gonna piss people off. God have, does God have a big fat you-know-what? And then kept going. And even the hand interpreter was like, what the? Didn't even know what to do because they're disrespecting God.

• 1:50:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, why don't you do it? And let's just, don't put the audio. Let's just see the hand interpreter. I've seen this.

• 1:50:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:50:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Just turn off the audio, Rob, if you could. Go for it.

• 1:50:41Speaker 04

  Look at the, look, whoa. Look at the interpreter. Big, watch here it comes. Big fat. Yeah. Look at that.

• 1:50:51Speaker 04

  She's like, she's like, what the?

• 1:50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So is there, can we, can't sing it?

• 1:50:54Speaker 04

  Talking, yeah, what? Well, they're talking about God and big and that's God.

• 1:50:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and but where is that? That's the key. This is where?

• 1:51:00Speaker 04

  This is at a Bernie Sanders rally and then he comes on after and thanks him, her, she, them.

• 1:51:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you find that clip, Rob? Can you find that?

• 1:51:09Speaker 04

  So Bernie, Rob, Rob, Bernie.

• 1:51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  We just had one of Bernie's biggest supporters, Ben Cohen, the founder of Ben and Jerry's was here. We did the podcast last week.

• 1:51:19Speaker 04

  That's it. Look how crazy his eyes look.

• 1:51:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that him thanking him?

• 1:51:22Speaker 04

  That's him thanking a couple of people.

• 1:51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see it. God, Rob, play the clip.

• 1:51:25Speaker 04

  Let me thank the University of Wisconsin Parkside for the venue. Let me thank Canceler and Pulse LLC for the music. Here it comes. Laura Jane Graves for the music. They're right there. Lori Ellen Randy and. Laura Jane Graves, thanking a blasphemous transgender.

• 1:51:40Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, Van Jones, if you can find Van Jones, he says, we're in, we're in deep issue with the Democratic Party. Guess what? This is why you're getting your ass handed to you. Because you think just because Democrats, all of them are Democrats, they're 100% supporting this. They're not. I'm willing to bet two thirds of Democrats are sitting there saying, what the hell are you guys talking about? Rob, that's the clip right there. That's the one he's saying that absolutely keep. Is that the one, Rob? What is it saying in the description? Can you look it up? Because the girl in the middle is the one. Van Jones, Tom, a Democrat, that's, that's the one. That's the one. Watch his clip. And he's right. Go for it.

• 1:52:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. And then just lastly, Van, in terms of Democrats and where they go from here, this last week, we did see them. Try to, some people try to protest during the president's address and then leader, House leadership getting on to them. Other Democrats calling them out. They still seem to be wandering around trying to figure, figure this out. What's your take?

• 1:52:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Can we ask another question?

• 1:52:47Adam Sosnick?

  Can we talk about Ukraine or something? No, no. Look, man, we're screwed. I mean, we don't know. No, Democrats don't know what to do. This is a nightmare. You know, somebody like Donald Trump. We thought we'd at least have, you know, Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair to hold him back. If we didn't have Kamala in there to do the right thing. Listen, the Democratic Party is going through a massive set of internal crises. You have a party that got trapped two ways.

• 1:53:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. Democrat.

• 1:53:14Adam Sosnick?

  One, defending a broken status quo that nobody likes because they thought that Donald Trump was gonna make it worse. But when you're defending a status quo, you're gonna lose. And then offending most people in the country, calling everybody sexist and racist and transphobic and every other name, and then saying, "Please follow us." That's not a good strategy, folks.

• 1:53:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo.

• 1:53:36Adam Sosnick?

  Defending a broken status quo and offending most of the country.

• 1:53:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So, yes, well, you can posit at that point. I mean, that's the part where you're watching this kind of stuff where Van Jones is cornered to the point that he has to say, "Hey, guys, this strategy kind of sucks. You're judging everybody and yet you want them to join you? And then you want to have a performance of a guy mocking God? And then you want to have a woman on international day, you want to put a guy there, Dylan Mulvaney? You couldn't have chosen a better lady to put on there than a Dylan Mulvaney? That's a spitting in women's face. You're pushing, "Keep do-" Republicans ought to sit there and say, "Please keep doing that. Keep doing that." Bill Maher is sitting there saying, "What the-" Bill Maher is so close to being a Republican, but he just cannot do it. He knows if he does it, he will never be invited to those parties ever again.

• 1:54:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Yeah. I love how you asked the question, "Who do you put this on? Do you put this on the parents? Do you put this on the children?" Everyone can get a little blame. You know who I also blame? Women themselves. At what point, if you're the girls in high school, do you say, "No, no, no. I'm not competing with this dude playing dress up, competing with us." Like, you have no idea how much respect I have for someone like Riley Gaines, who's out there. She's getting hated on by women who are basically saying, "You're-"

• 1:54:57Adam Sosnick?

  Anti-woman or you're anti- By which women though, which women? By woke liberal women. Thank you. So what Van Jones is doing is calling out the Democratic Party. I don't remember who it was, but we've said it multiple times. All Trump and the Republicans are doing is taking 80-20 issues and going on the 80% side. And letting the Democrats who have a 31% approval rating, the lowest on record that in our lifetime. And then let them take the 20% of the issue. It makes no sense.

• 1:55:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Stephen A. Smith ends up getting his $100 million contract from ESPN. Well deserved. I think he's still underpaid, but congratulations to him. He makes more money than a lot of NBA players. Matter of fact, I think there was a chart showing that the guy makes more money than most NBA players. However, wow, I mean, he didn't even have a chance to celebrate his contract. Gets a $100 million contract, then all of a sudden, he's at a game, watching the Lakers play. Rob, if you have that clip of him watching the Lakers play where LeBron walks up on him. Watch this clip here, guys. Watch this. Go for it.

• 1:56:13Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think he said?

• 1:56:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Rob, do you have the words on what was said? Because there's clips. Is this him explaining what happened?

• 1:56:20Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play this clip here. Go for it.

• 1:56:23Speaker 04

  LeBron ambushed me at the Lakers game last night. The guy came right up to me, courtside, and yelled in my face. He said, "Fuck you, Stephen A. I take craps bigger than you. Plus, I heard you said Bronny sucks at basketball and he's only in the NBA because I made the Lakers draft him." So I said to him-

• 1:56:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't say that word.

• 1:56:45Speaker 04

  Rob, is this, is this AI? You got your son a job he didn't deserve. White people do it all the damn time, so I don't blame you. But Bronny is shorter than a garden- And he lays more bricks than a tequila fueled.

• 1:56:58Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, that's not it.

• 1:56:59Speaker 04

  Okay, so this is fake? Time out. This is fake? I'm watching the lips and I'm like, that is not even. Oh, dude, okay. I was like, wait, Bronny James should work out.

• 1:57:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. Bro, the lips.

• 1:57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go find a clip of him saying what he said.

• 1:57:19Speaker 04

  So funny, dude. Rob, how'd you find that clip, bro?

• 1:57:21Tom Ellsworth?

  That was on Twitter and AI got.

• 1:57:23Adam Sosnick?

  Well, if it was on Twitter, it must be true.

• 1:57:25Speaker 04

  Well, there was.

• 1:57:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, there's a, there's a one that he's reacting.

• 1:57:28Speaker 04

  And he takes his time, yeah, and he's like.

• 1:57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, while, while Rob's finding that, go ahead, Vinny, your thoughts on this?

• 1:57:31Speaker 04

  Okay, so a few things for me. Well, I mean, congratulations to Stephen A. I don't think anybody, especially in that space, deserves it more. Um, but I, you know, and, and you guys are gonna see the conversation.

• 1:57:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I found it. Hang on, I found it.

• 1:57:42Speaker 04

  Okay, let's see this first.

• 1:57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I found that it's a minute, is this a minute clip, Rob?

• 1:57:45Speaker 04

  A minute fourteen.

• 1:57:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's one. Go for it, Rob, go for it.

• 1:57:48Speaker 04

  Um, he approached me during the game and he said,

• 1:57:54Speaker 04

  "Stop effing with my son. That's my effing son. Stop effing with my son." I said, "What? Nah, nah, nah, man, straight up, man to man, real talk, stop effing with my son."

• 1:58:11Speaker 04

  And I saw how furious he was. And I said, "We can talk about it later." "Nah, F that, F that. Stop effing with my son. That's my son. That's my son." I said, "All right, dog. Fine."

• 1:58:27Speaker 04

  And he walked away. That's all he said.

• 1:58:31Speaker 04

  I knew what he was talking about.

• 1:58:35Speaker 04

  I've spoken about this before. Matter of fact, I heard that not many, not all, but a few players were upset at me about that.

• 1:58:45Speaker 04

  I think one player in particular was Draymond Green, who I haven't spoken to since, and has no desire to speak to me primarily because of this, I suppose.

• 1:58:58Speaker 04

  And I found out the way that I found out, which was last night.

• 1:59:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny.

• 1:59:05Speaker 04

  Okay, so, long story short, Stephen A. Smith is what? What's his job at ESPN? Sports? He's a sports reporter, sports analyst. Thank you, Adam. So him criticizing Bronny James being in the NBA basically because of his father, okay, LeBron James, and he just said he doesn't believe that he's ready for the league and would benefit more development in college or in the G League, okay? That's just it, okay? So LeBron crying, and the whole father point of view, like, I'm anti the whole, that was a father, talking, no, no, no. You're the reason that your son is way in, way over his head, okay?

• 1:59:47Speaker 04

  Bronny's good, but he needs time to develop. You just want to be on the court with your son, I get that. But in regards to Stephen A., bro, let me explain something to you. That Stephen A. that just got that 100 million and that freaking New York, and I know, being a freaking New Yorker, any man, I don't give a shit if it's LeBron James, I don't care if it's Donald Trump, I don't care who you are, you are not stepping to me on a court and trying to sun me in front of the world because every camera's on you and you're just gonna sit there and not say anything back. I don't give, if he's barking at me, I'm barking right back. I was expecting Stephen A. to be the Stephen A. Smith that we know on freaking camera. I was a little bit disappointed because I was expecting him to be like, yo, get the hell out of my face. And check his ass, be like, you know your son doesn't belong in the NBA.

• 2:00:31Speaker 04

  I'm not, it's not a personal thing. He's not going after Bronny James because he just doesn't like Bronny James, Pat. He doesn't belong in the league. If you've been watching any of the games, and I know you haven't, neither have I, I had to go look up clips. He's okay. I think he needs two or three years to develop, but I, A, I don't respect what LeBron is doing, stepping to him and trying to embarrass him, but I wanted Stephen A. to go back and go for his.

• 2:00:53Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he's, he's played 44 minutes in the NBA, has scored four points, is 1 for 16, 0 for 6, 0 for 7 from 3.

• 2:01:01Speaker 04

  So what does that, so what does that mean? Stephen A. is right. Why aren't you sticking back?

• 2:01:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He's averaging .4 points a game, and he's 1 for 16. So, Tom, your thoughts?

• 2:01:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I split it in half, and the first thing, we were talking about the contract. You know what? Stephen A. just did something. Uh, first guy through the wall usually takes a lot of heat and, and when you create a precedent. And this is the future of media contracts. In the old days, he would have had an ESPN contract to do ESPN things and he could not have gone beyond that realm of ESPN. This way, he gets to be who he is as a personality. He has a voice, he's got talent, and that talent can be spread in different ways. And now this contract values him at ESPN and gives him the ability to do those things.

• 2:01:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Congratulations to Stephen A. And just remember, first guys through the wall get the bloodiest and that was your job right now, but a lot of people are going to follow you. Now, in terms of the rest, I don't know any further history with Stephen A. and LeBron. But it is, but suffice to say, they know each other. They've had interviews together, they've had a lot of conversations together, they probably text together. And then with all of that background, maybe they're not super buddies, but there's a background there. Of course. This is Stephen A.'s, this is Stephen A.'s sports, he's an expert on this. He comes over to him and really gets in his grill and as you said, kind of sund him. He's sunning him.

• 2:02:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'll have to say this, you know, LeBron, you gotta look at what is the reality of the draft pick? Let's all step back and take the name off the jersey. How does that draft pick working out against NBA competition? It looks like a draft pick and Adam, I think you would agree, hey, that particular draft pick, clearly a talent, but maybe it's going to spend some summer in, in, in the G League. Yeah. Right? Maybe we're going to have some things here. And if that would get said, now on LeBron's, of course you're going to be upset as a father if things are like this, because he's probably trying to protect him from the avalanche of stuff that LeBron knows the media can bring, bring on you.

• 2:03:14Tom Ellsworth?

  But I don't recall Stephen A. going after Bronny the way people sometimes go after you on, on sports talk shows. Yeah. I don't recall that kind of heat. And so, yeah, I was a father, I think that's given. LeBron, a little bit of an out there because nobody came down on LeBron and nobody came down on Bronny with a lot of heat. And I think that's what gets lost in the middle of this. I think it's really unfortunate. Stephen A's got this little controversy in the middle of a week where we should be looking at, what did he just do? For media talent going forward. He set a great precedent.

• 2:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 2:03:52Adam Sosnick?

  Well, and I'll just quote what Stephen A. Smith said. LeBron didn't come and talk to him as a Laker. He didn't come to talk to him as an NBA player. He didn't come to talk to him as arguably the second greatest player of all time. He came and talked to him man to man as a father, straight up. Stephen A. Smith said this. He basically said in mouth. If you're gonna like, keep my son's name out your mouth on some Will Smith. Keep my wife's name out your mouth when he slapped Chris Rock. And LeBron looked like he could have, Stephen A. Smith respected him. He stood there. He took it like a G. But Bronny is playing in the D-league or the G-league as they call it.

• 2:04:36Adam Sosnick?

  And here's a little fun fact for you. Stats. LeBron's rookie year stats compared to Bronny's rookie year stats are eerily similar. When LeBron won Rookie of the Year in the NBA. 20 points, five rebounds, five assists, shooting over 40%. That's exactly what Bronny is averaging in the G-league. 20 points, five rebounds, five assists, shooting 43%. The only problem is it's in the G-league. In the NBA, he's averaging one point, a half a rebound, a half assist, shooting 25%. Nobody thought Bronny was ready for the NBA. Well, his dad apparently did.

• 2:05:17Adam Sosnick?

  This was LeBron using his influence to say, I want my son to play with me. I don't care if he's not ready. A year ago, he was playing for USC and he missed half the season because he had a heart condition. I think it's actually awesome that a father and son first ever are playing together. Nobody thought that Bronny was gonna be. An integral part of the Lakers, who by the way, don't look now, just acquired Luca a month ago. They're now, I think tied for second in the West, maybe third behind Denver. Um, last point is this, Stephen A. Smith is not tight with LeBron at all.

• 2:05:59Adam Sosnick?

  They're not cool, they're not homies. Stephen A. Smith is an MJ guy. He always defends MJ. He always says that MJ is the greatest player ever. He's the GOAT.

• 2:06:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your point?

• 2:06:09Adam Sosnick?

  And he trashes LeBron, meaning there's history there.

• 2:06:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, so let me give my final thoughts and I'm gonna, I'm gonna go past this and just kinda simplify. By the way, he, uh, I think there was another take that Stephen A. did to say that it came up and it's really about LeBron. It's not about his son. It's really about you. It's not about, it's not about your son, it's about you. And I agree with him. This is about LeBron. It's not about his son. Um, LeBron wants a certain kind of immunity that, you know, maybe other players haven't had. And, you know, guys are getting called out for coming in and how they're playing. He was able to get certain favors to get his son to play. Now, I, I, I'm very comfortable with what Stephen A. has said to him, calling him out, double down on it. LeBron James will go down as the greatest flopper of all time.

• 2:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He will go down as, there's so many different arguments being made right now with this guy here. To me, he destroyed the league, he destroyed viewership, he lost half the clients, half the fans that were watching him. Last two All-Stars, the one he played in was the least viewed All-Star. God knows since pre-MJ getting into the NBA, the least viewed All-Star. It's dropped over 50% since he entered the league in 2003. This is, this is a guy that is such a, the most drama queen, you know, superstar in the history of any sports we've ever had. And now he wants to pass that along with Stephen A. Good for Stephen A. for doubling down. I'm actually very comfortable with it. Okay, can somebody go check to see what that is?

• 2:07:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Add one thing to that.

• 2:07:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that?

• 2:07:38Tom Ellsworth?

  He won four championships manipulating rosters. and traveling from coast to coast and Larry Michael MJ and Magic never did that.

• 2:07:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's that who never did that?

• 2:07:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Said traveled coast to coast to manipulate rosters and win his championships. MJ didn't do that. Magic didn't do that. Larry didn't do that. Kobe didn't do that. They didn't, they didn't go.

• 2:08:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Biggest crybaby of all superstars of all time.

• 2:08:04Adam Sosnick?

  But he is the second greatest basketball player of all time.

• 2:08:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Statistically.

• 2:08:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Said that myself.

• 2:08:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's fine.

• 2:08:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm comfortable saying that, but he's the, he is not, um, he's not at the level of, huh?

• 2:08:15Adam Sosnick?

  He ain't MJ.

• 2:08:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Not even close to it.

• 2:08:17Speaker 04

  Never, ever, ever.

• 2:08:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Not even close. It's just not gonna take place. It's just not gonna take place. Okay, so let's go through a couple of things here. Watch this one here. So, Bill Maher is saying stuff about Jasmine Crockett, but before I go to the Bill Maher clip, Rob, can you go to the Jasmine Crockett? Clip of her saying it is not a crime to cross the border illegally. Watch this and then go to the Bill Maher clip. Go for it, Rob.

• 2:08:37Adam Sosnick?

  It is not a criminal violation to enter the country illegally. It's not, it's not a criminal. It's crime. It's not a crime, which is why

• 2:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 2:08:46Adam Sosnick?

  They're so frustrated.

• 2:08:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the word illegal mean?

• 2:08:49Adam Sosnick?

  Our local law enforcement.

• 2:08:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Illegal is a crime.

• 2:08:51Adam Sosnick?

  And round up people when they could be looking out for the murderers and the sexual abusers as well as the robbers. They want them to go and round people up on civil accusations. And so that.

• 2:09:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You're positive. So you can go to Bill Maher's clip, Rob. Watch this, folks. So who is she? She is somebody that's become a star in the Democratic Party. Go ahead, Rob. Watch this clip.

• 2:09:13Adam Sosnick?

  Makes sense. Certainly not for accuracy.

• 2:09:14Speaker 01

  Jasmine Crockett, uh, who is, I thought, a big leader in the Democratic Party. Her quote is, "This is a terrible nightmare. Somebody slap me and wake me the fuck up because I'm ready to get on with it."

• 2:09:29Speaker 01

  On with what would be my first question. And also, this is, this is the way a, this is like how a podcaster talks or some shit. Fuck it. Can you imagine, I don't know, Obama saying, oh, man, dude, this shit is whack and fuck it. I'm, slap me. I'm fucking over it. I mean, come on, man.

• 2:09:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not wrong, by the way. And by the way, you can go to the other clip as well that he had with, you know, the stats and the polls and fact checking everything, go for it.

• 2:09:59Speaker 01

  So, did you watch the speech on Tuesday night? The long 100-minute speech? Regrettably, but yes. Okay.

• 2:10:06Adam Sosnick?

  Most of it.

• 2:10:07Speaker 01

  All right, so Trump said some things that were not exactly true. And when I say not exactly, I mean not at all.

• 2:10:16Speaker 01

  And I just think we should talk about that by saying, I don't want to talk about that. Because if you're a conservative and you see him say many, many things that are not even close to true, you just don't care anymore. This is so baked in the cake. That is who he is. They do not take him literally or think he needs to be taken literally. That's an amazing advantage in politics, I think, but that's in. And if you're a liberal watching MSNBC every day, you're obsessed with this. And you've seen all these things where they exposed it. I'm bored with that shit, okay? This is what he does. It's, I just take everything with a grain of salt. If he says Zelensky's approval rating is 4%, it's 57%.

• 2:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the girl on the right? Is that The View?

• 2:10:58Speaker 04

  He's on The View, so, yeah.

• 2:10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  She's the conservative on The View.

• 2:11:01Speaker 04

  He's the conservative on The View.

• 2:11:02Adam Sosnick?

  And that's John Tester, who's the... He was a Democrat senator of Montana, I believe, that got... That lost, but he was a Democrat in Montana. So she's the conservative on The View?

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  She's supposed to be the conservative.

• 2:11:13Adam Sosnick?

  And she's hating on Trump?

• 2:11:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Jasmine Crockett, you see something like this, what do you think about? Vinnie?

• 2:11:17Speaker 04

  Oh, well, think about it. This is the same as these... They can't get out of their own way. Like, the same thing that we see with the Dylan Mulvaney and the transgender and the men's sports. She is the epitome of DEI hire, just the... I'm telling you guys right now, Republicans, they're in such good shape for, I think, a generation, maybe a couple of generations, because this loud, "Ay, girl, motherfucker", by the way, cussing in Congress, cussing on the floor, in front of Congress, live, in front of the world to see. This... She just made another video of who's the guy that's saying the halftime show at the Super Bowl?

• 2:11:55Adam Sosnick?

  Kendrick Lamar?

• 2:11:56Speaker 04

  She did a video of dancing like him in the Senate, in Congress. She's doing these type of videos, it's just ignorant at all levels. Like I said, they're doomed. The Democratic Party is doomed because of people like that. They think the answer is Jasmine Crockett. A loud, angry black chick that's only got her job because of DEI. Period.

• 2:12:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, contrived outrage wins no new followers. And guess what? Keep it up, baby. Keep it up. Take the L.

• 2:12:29Adam Sosnick?

  Well, she didn't get her job because of DEI. She actually won her election in Texas. I'm not defending how she acts. But if the Democratic Party wants to keep doubling down on not securing the border, on Doge not finding waste, fraud and abuse, on woke DEI agenda, they're going to continue to lose. I repeat, just like James Carville. It's the economy, stupid. Focus on what's going on in the economy. Focus on jobs. Democrats lost union support in the 2024 election. That should never happen. So if you want to keep doing this ridiculous song and dance, go for it, Kendrick Lamar, but it's not working.

• 2:13:10Speaker 04

  You want to see a clip of her? Like, have you seen her in Congress? Rob, I just sent you a clip. Just, this is, this is our, this is her. Look at how professional, how she speaks. She's a very, very like positive, like you want this person leading the charge. There has been no oppression for the white man in this country. You tell me which white men were dragged out of their homes? You tell me which one of them got dragged all the way across an ocean? And told that you are going to go at work? We are going to steal your wives. We are going to rape them. She hates white people, by the way. That didn't happen. That is oppression. We didn't ask to be here.

• 2:13:54Speaker 04

  We not the same migrants that y'all constantly come up against. We didn't run away from home. We were stolen.

• 2:14:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, we are gonna sit here and be offended when you wanna sit here and act like and and and don't let it escape you. That it is white man on this side of the aisle telling us, people of color on this side of the aisle.

• 2:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  That's who she is.

• 2:14:17Speaker 04

  That that y'all are the ones being oppressed. And there has been no. Yeah, she's she's a she's a winner.

• 2:14:23Adam Sosnick?

  That will work for her district.

• 2:14:25Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 2:14:26Adam Sosnick?

  Meaning the victim mentality, whoever, I think she's in in Dallas, I wanna say.

• 2:14:30Tom Ellsworth?

  She's Texas 30 on the south side of Dallas.

• 2:14:32Adam Sosnick?

  Economically devastated area. Yeah, that's not a winning.

• 2:14:35Speaker 04

  Is that Oakland?

• 2:14:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it Oakland, Tom? No, no, no, this is the east side of South.

• 2:14:39Adam Sosnick?

  That's Oakland.

• 2:14:40Tom Ellsworth?

  South of.

• 2:14:40Adam Sosnick?

  But that's not a winning message.

• 2:14:43Tom Ellsworth?

  She's south of.

• 2:14:43Adam Sosnick?

  For my national electors.

• 2:14:44Speaker 04

  Like her and AOC, they think they think that she's the future and they're putting it all in on her.

• 2:14:49Tom Ellsworth?

  She was named the co-chair of.

• 2:14:51Adam Sosnick?

  Don't get representatives twisted with senators, governors, or presidents. AOC will do just fine in her little district in Brooklyn. And this girl do or the Bronx, this girl do just fine in her whatever district in Dallas. They're not winning state elections or national elections with this type of mentality.

• 2:15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go through two more stories and we'll wrap up. Okay, one of the stories I wanna go through is Canada. Um, Canada, Mark Carney wins race to replace Trudeau as Canada's prime minister. Rob, if you wanna play this clip. This is the same guy that's a former Bank of England guy, uh, governor and World Economic Forum guy. Rob, if you can play a couple of these clips. On how he says, um, the one clip that he says, I wish I could stand up here, talk about your accomplishments, but I don't have that much time. You know which one I'm talking about? He's giving Trudeau the clip.

• 2:15:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I have this one, um, where he talks about Donald Trump.

• 2:15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  But play, play that clip, play that clip.

• 2:15:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Kelly, stop. I I got it, hold on.

• 2:15:52Adam Sosnick?

  Children? You okay?

• 2:15:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:15:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, Donald Trump.

• 2:16:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Donald Trump. And Donald Trump. As we know, has put.

• 2:16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a replacement for Trudeau.

• 2:16:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Unjustified tariffs on what we build, on what we sell, on how we make a living.

• 2:16:16Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a.

• 2:16:16Speaker 04

  Attacking Canadian families, workers, and businesses. And we cannot let him succeed.

• 2:16:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 2:16:25Speaker 04

  What a great.

• 2:16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  We cannot let him succeed.

• 2:16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  We cannot let him succeed.

• 2:16:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What other clips you got of this guy, Rob? Is this the one that he's thanking Trudeau?

• 2:16:38Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm looking for that as well right now. But this is another clip of him where he talks about the tariffs from Trump and their effect on the.

• 2:16:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what this one is, Rob. Go for it.

• 2:16:46Speaker 04

  These are dark days.

• 2:16:51Speaker 04

  Dark days brought on by a country we can no longer trust.

• 2:16:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 2:16:56Speaker 04

  We are getting over the shock. But let us never forget the lessons.

• 2:17:03Speaker 04

  We have to look after ourselves. And we have to look out for each other.

• 2:17:11Speaker 04

  We need to pull together. In the tough days ahead.

• 2:17:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And then here's the final clip. I believe this is the one you were looking for.

• 2:17:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:17:25Speaker 04

  Prime Minister Trudeau, my time doesn't permit me to recognize all of your accomplishments. Yeah. So I'll speak at a higher level. You have combined strength and compassion every day as a fighter for Canada.

• 2:17:45Speaker 04

  You have to read that off. Look at this. Look at this dork. What a dork. You.

• 2:17:51Speaker 04

  You have led us through some of the hardest challenges that this nation has ever faced. He put them in. Hey.

• 2:18:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you do me a favor? If you can play the clip of Trudeau crying and getting emotional, if you got that clip.

• 2:18:09Speaker 04

  That's what I use that.

• 2:18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  If you can go to that.

• 2:18:11Speaker 04

  I play that to go to sleep at night.

• 2:18:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:13Speaker 04

  I just have that.

• 2:18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's him.

• 2:18:14Speaker 04

  This is after the tariff war.

• 2:18:18Speaker 04

  On a personal level.

• 2:18:21Speaker 04

  I've made sure that every single day in this office, I put Canadians first, that I have people's backs. And that's why.

• 2:18:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm here to tell you all that we got you. Even in the very last days of this government, we will not let Canadians down today and long into the future. You can pause it right there, Rob. This is great because you can only take so much of this. Tom, your thoughts on this with the new president, new prime minister?

• 2:18:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, it's gonna be fun to watch Canadian politics all this year. Because the reason this guy, by the way, this guy was not elected by the people. He was elected by eighty-nine point five percent of the Liberal Party that said, "You're our guy." Because they're still in power. And so when Fidel Castro's son resigns as prime minister, and suddenly...

• 2:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Allegedly.

• 2:19:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I went there. And then you have, this guy gets elected eighty-nine point five percent of his party. This would be like Nancy Pelosi resigning as Speaker because she had an illness or just resigned for controversy. And then, well, that doesn't change the fact that the Dems would still be in power, so they would elect a new Speaker.

• 2:19:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 2:19:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, now October's coming, and October's coming, we're gonna see this guy face off against probably, you know, Pierre Polivier. So that's when the next big roundup's gonna happen, is the national election's gonna happen. But now what Mark has had, this guy's a real globalist, he's Bank of England. There are people even in Canada that are really worried about this guy on a far deeper level, that he's really not Canada, he's really a hyper-liberal globalist. And we're gonna see the parlor game play out this summer with tariffs and things that are going on. And by the way, they just stood on their little Canadian soapbox, the population of California that all lives within a hundred mi...

• 2:20:20Tom Ellsworth?

  That, excuse me, eighty-nine percent of them live within a hundred miles of the US border, right there on the border, mainly Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto. And now he's your guy, but there's a lot, there's a lot that's gonna go on this summer. And then there'll be a big election in October. And right now, their biggest issue is, they thought, with that size of country I just described, that they could put a finger in China's eye that came back with heavy tariffs back the other way. So congratulations, dude. Your first job isn't Donald Trump and twenty-five percent tariffs. Your first job is you just pissed off China.

• 2:20:59Adam Sosnick?

  This is actually sort of backfiring against what we would have maybe hoped or expected to come from Canada because Justin Trudeau's approval ratings were in the basement, 20 something percent.

• 2:21:13Tom Ellsworth?

  He actually had one?

• 2:21:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, was it actually approved?

• 2:21:15Adam Sosnick?

  He steps down a couple of months ago and he sort of slides in this guy Mark Carney. You know, three months ago Pierre Poliev, who was expected to be the next prime minister, his polymarket ratings for likelihood to become the next prime minister were at 90%. Now they're at 60%. This guy Mark Carney, who was in Nowheresville, is now at 40%. What Trump has done is he's sort of revived Canadian pride. When have you seen Canadians talk tough in the last handful of years?

• 2:21:55Speaker 04

  Even if they try, they can't.

• 2:21:56Adam Sosnick?

  But they're basically saying they found an enemy. Everyone needs an enemy. They found an enemy in Trump and it's backfiring. Now, the guy that they're basically saying, anyone who's true conservatives, my friend Rich Cooper told me about this guy, Max Bernier, they're talking about him being the guy. I don't think this guy, Carney, is going to be the guy long-term. He's a temporary stopgap. You know, what did Austin Powers, the great Austin Powers, say about Carney's? He goes, "There's only two things I fear in this world. Number one, nuclear war. Number two, Carney's circus folk smell like cabbage."

• 2:22:37Adam Sosnick?

  This guy, small hands, smells like cabbage. So this guy's a Carney. I think he's only there for show for a couple of months because election is happening, I think, in May, a few months away.

• 2:22:49Tom Ellsworth?

  He's drawing a bounce right now in the polls. The actual election's October 20th of 2025.

• 2:22:54Adam Sosnick?

  You're way off. But they're saying that they can

• 2:22:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Call for a snap election in May. Let me just give my thoughts to the people who were not happy with what I said about Pierre Polievre on how uh uh how much of an elitist he gives me the vibes he is and he's no got not going on other podcasts. And a lot of people responded back, who the hell do you guys think you are? You're Americans, you're this. A lot of people supported the fact that you're right, he's not, you know, he's a World Economic Forum guy. And you know, he's a apologist to Ukraine, recent supporter of Ukraine, what he's got. And then some are bringing up Max and you know, Max, um, you know, uh, Berner. He is the conservative guy. He's the guy that some of the guys are excited about, but I don't think he can win it. That's what a lot of people are saying. Here's what I'll tell you.

• 2:23:38Patrick Bet-David?

  The common thread was that politicians in Canada are afraid to talk to Americans because they're worried that the liberals will use them as a, hey, look at this guy. They're they're another person that's owned by Americans and they're another person that's owned by this. If you're afraid to have those conversations, it just means you're not fit for the job. It means you're afraid, you're concerned, you're worried, God forbid, you're playing politics. Wear this color tie. You know how you watch these movies? What was that one movie with Zach Galifianakis with the other guy that they're running for president with Will Ferrell? Wear this tie. Campaign. Wear jeans because if you wear jeans and roll up your sleeves, it looks like you're presidential and you relate to people and wear this and wear that. Be quiet. You know, who are you? What are you running for? Go run on that.

• 2:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Go run on that. If you're so worried about what the left is going to say about you, you you're already not qualified qualified enough to be the president. What are you going to do when the? What Russia's going to say about you? China's going to say about you? Other people are going to say about you? If you're a leader, go sit down with as many people as possible. So the race is October 20th? I am so curious on how much offense Pierre is going to play between now and then. And I hope all the people that are supporters of him, if you want him to win, keep asking him on X every single day. What podcast are you going on next? What show are you going on next? Who are you talking to the people? Hold them accountable the same way we help people.

• 2:25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  accountable on our side in America to get who we wanted you as a voter got to do the same as well it'd be interesting to see what Max is going to be doing this will be an edge for Max if Max decided to go on a tour and sit down with a bunch of different people America Canada no matter where you are just to talk and tell the story Max plays that card of going to people and he doesn't that'd be his campaign I'm not afraid to talk to anybody you're afraid last one I'm going to wrap up with before we move on is Thomas Massey and Trump Rob what is going on there with Thomas Massey and Trump so there is a tweet that comes out from the president this morning Axios reports that Trump vows to lead charge to unseat GOP representative

• 2:25:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Thomas Massey Thomas Massey responds back Rob if you have the clip on right there okay zoom in a little bit thank you to the House Freedom Caucus for just delivering a big blow to the radical left Democrats and their desire to raise taxes and shut down our country they hate America and all it stands for that's why they allowed millions of criminals to invade our nation sometimes it takes great courage to do the right thing Congressman Thomas Massey of beautiful Kentucky is an automatic no vote on just about everything despite the fact that he has always voted for continuing resolutions in the past he should be primaried and I will lead the charge against him he's just another grandstander who's too much trouble and not worth the fight he reminds me of Liz Cheney before her historic record-breaking loss fall

• 2:26:33Patrick Bet-David?

  loss the people of Kentucky won't stand for it just watch do I have any takers anyway thank you again for the House Freedom Caucus for your very important vote we need to buy some time in order to make America great again greater than ever before unite and win Rob can you go to Thomas Massey's Twitter again Twitter because I think he did respond back to that his message is just typing yeah if you can go to it

• 2:26:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It is, it is a recent tweet responding back to it. Go a little bit lower. Zoom in to see if you see it. It's on one of the accounts. You know nowadays, everybody's got like 10 accounts. Someone thinks they can control my voting card by threatening my reelection. Guess what? Doesn't work with me. Three times I've been challenger. Uh, who tried to be more mega than me. None busted 25% because of my constituents. Prefer transparency and principles over blind allegiance. Okay. And the guy puts a Twitter tweet like Tik Tok. Uh, your, your time is coming for this to happen. So Vinnie, what are your thoughts on this with Thomas Massey and Trump?

• 2:27:34Speaker 04

  I don't, I was just gonna say this came out of nowhere. Like for him to just go after him this much, what? What is this thing that he's going up against, Tom? What's the thing that he's actually going against that that would piss off Trump to get to that level?

• 2:27:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he supposedly is holding his vote for the CR, the continuing resolution.

• 2:27:51Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 2:27:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And Trump and um, Howard Letnick um, are both pushing people to vote on the continuing resolution.

• 2:28:02Speaker 04

  And what's a continuing resolution?

• 2:28:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, a continuing resolution, it'll be abbreviated CR. You see it all over in, in Twitter space.

• 2:28:09Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 2:28:09Tom Ellsworth?

  It's basically a resolution that says, okay, we're gonna put this much money over here and we're gonna have to continue. We'll be able to continue government operating. We'll be able to continue these things going on. And we're gonna continue this till we get to the big bill.

• 2:28:24Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 2:28:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And so a continuing resolution is a resolution to continue with these spending over here. While we negotiate maybe a larger bill or we get to the end of the legislative session.

• 2:28:36Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 2:28:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And apparently Thomas Massey and others, and there's a few things going on in here, are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not gonna automatically vote on a continuing resolution because I want to know what's in it. Why don't we speed up the vote on the bigger, what did, and I won't do the impersonation that Adam does, the big? Beautiful spending bill.

• 2:28:57Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:28:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, that they've been talking about. And so that's what's going on. And apparently there were talks behind closed doors or something happened. And, you know, uh, Trump, uh, we saw his tweet this morning. He was very aggravated and was very, very direct about it. And Thomas Massey was equally direct in the other way, saying, okay, threaten me with my election. Gosh, you know, the last couple of people done that haven't broken through 25% of the vote. I've done okay. And I feel confident in my own skin.

• 2:29:29Speaker 04

  Okay. So the, cause and this isn't the first time, because I looked it up, that, uh, Trump targeted Massey back in 2020, where Trump criticized him for opposing a, a COVID-19 relief package, calling him a third-rate grandstander. So they do have-

• 2:29:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Massey is known for being a proponent of the single-issue resolution or the single-issue bill. It's like, if you call it a COVID bill, then the only thing that should be in here is COVID.

• 2:29:54Speaker 04

  Right.

• 2:29:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Respect.

• 2:29:55Patrick Bet-David?

  By, by the way, so, so-

• 2:29:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I respect that a lot.

• 2:29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  If you can pull up this clip, this is the clip. This is, this is, this is what's said, uh, by Massey. Cause to him, it's like, hey, I want that money that we're saving with Doge to go towards savings, not, not go towards-

• 2:30:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Wasteful spending.

• 2:30:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. If you can pull this up, Rob, I'm stepping on things up. I don't break anything. Okay. It's fine. Um, uh, uh, zoom in a little bit on this, if you could. I'm not voting for the continuing resolution budget. Cut, copy, paste, omnibus. This week.

• 2:30:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Omnibus means everything.

• 2:30:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would I vote to continue to waste fraud and abuse Doge has found? Great question. We were told the CR, uh, in December would get us to March when we would fight. Here we are in March, punting again.

• 2:30:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow. I got it.

• 2:30:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So that, that's kind of the challenge, but then Trump, he, he needs his vote.

• 2:30:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 2:30:47Patrick Bet-David?

  He needs his vote for this to be taking place. Uh, Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 2:30:51Speaker 06

  So the reason that I know this name, Thomas Massey, is do you know who-

• 2:30:54Adam Sosnick?

  talks about him constantly as her favorite person in Congress Candace Owens. She always says that Thomas Massey is her favorite politician and that she would be the one person to advocate for him to run for president. Now, I don't think he has the cachet or name recognition to do anything like that. But in my opinion, this is America first versus America only. Thomas Massey is of the libertarian camp. Something's going on in the waters in Kentucky. Ron Paul, Rand Paul libertarian, they want nothing to do with the rest of the world. They want zero foreign aid. They want zero intervention.

• 2:31:38Adam Sosnick?

  They want to do the ostrich thing. And there's a lot of people that agree with them, much like Vinnie over here. And I understand that libertarian, limited government, limit government spending, stop getting embroiled in foreign wars and doing anything with USAID or foreign aid. The challenge with that is if you don't do stuff around the world, then someone's going to fill that void and that someone is going to be China, that someone is going to be Russia, that someone's going to be Iran in the Middle East. So there's also another history here. Do you know that just two months ago in January, Thomas Massey was the only Republican to

• 2:32:21Adam Sosnick?

  not vote for Mike Johnson, Mike Johnson to be Speaker of the House? So there's history here. There's some strained relationships here, but I think he's a necessary voice. He's definitely a thorn in the side of Trump. He's the, you know, Tea Party Republican libertarian leaning.

• 2:32:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And there's a best way to describe Thomas Massey. Okay, to, to, for, for people to understand who he is. Thomas Massey is to Trump what Joe Manchin was to Biden. That's what Thomas Massey is. So just think, Thomas Massey is Joe Manchin. Okay? That's what Thomas Massey is. Now, he's not a Democrat, not far from it. It's not like Joe Manchin was a, on the economy, he agreed with a lot of stuff maybe conservatives talk about. But Thomas Massey, if you go and look at the comments on Trump's clip, Rob, of what Trump said about Thomas Massey, you go to the comment section below and you read what people said, they're kind of on Massey's side. A lot of them. Okay, I'm just telling you, a lot of them are on Massey's side on what was said there.

• 2:33:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, yeah, if you go to Truth or if you go to Twitter on X, you would see a lot of people, just go on the one that what he said.

• 2:33:30Tom Ellsworth?

  The only thing that matters is his constituency in Kentucky. So, and they clearly have re-elected the guy because I think he's been there since 2012. So, he's on his...

• 2:33:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and the one thing we have to keep in mind and not forget, when it comes down to this issue, is the fact that Massey kind of campaigned for DeSantis. Okay?

• 2:33:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, really?

• 2:33:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Massey's more DeSantis than he is Trump because DeSantis is more conservative than Trump. So, that, this is the part that, you know, who is more conservative than me? Who is more MAGA than me? Who is more America first than me? Massey's a, you know, standalone, he stands on his own and it's, sometimes he loses, sometimes he wins, but the reality is his people are loyal to him. And this is where Trump's got to find a way to work with him, and Massey's got to find a way to work with him if they choose to.

• 2:34:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:23Patrick Bet-David?

  But if he doesn't, the, the concept of a primary in him, in order for Trump's primary to carry more weight, he needs to win. The more he's winning, the more he'll be able to do that. You also need a good candidate sometimes, just because you can primary somebody. Massey's not a weak person that you can primary against.

• 2:34:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And what would their message be to go against Massey? Because clearly they like the guy. So, I don't know, I'm waiting to see whatever Trump comes up with for a nickname. He's gonna just be like, "Nasty Massey", we'll see what happens.

• 2:34:51Patrick Bet-David?

  It's coming.

• 2:34:51Tom Ellsworth?

  But, um, his election is when? In, uh, 2026?

• 2:34:57Speaker 06

  So he's gonna be a thorn in the side.

• 2:34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  We will see. Anyways, all right, Yank. By the way, once again, download the Manect app. Join the circle. We have so many things we talk about there that we don't talk about anywhere. And we ask for issues. So right now, when I'm looking at the Manect circle, who was most active while we're going through it? We have people that were responding, Joseph Todd, Beckian, Stewart, Davido, Hutchins, a lot of people are active today. Go to the community circle. This is where all of you can communicate with each other throughout the entire month, not waiting just on the podcast. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.