Hot (and not) fruit takes

What temperature do you like your fruit? What is the correct way to peel a banana? This week on Endless Thread, Ben and Amory cherry pick a couple of the hottest fruit debates taking place on Reddit. Show notes: My husband is mildly infuriated that I open a banana from the antenna side! https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1nty5qx/my_husband_is_mildly_infuriated_that_i_open_a/ (Reddit) CMV: The only correct way to peel and eat a banana is from the bottom. https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/lz6rs6/cmv_the_only_correct_way_to_peel_and_eat_a_banana/ (Reddit) Microwaving fruit is the way to go https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/1jksdzu/microwaving_fruit_is_the_way_to_go/ (Reddit) I believe that fruit is better microwaved. https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/101q9to/i_believe_that_fruit_is_better_microwaved/ (Reddit) This content was originally created for audio. An auto-generated transcript is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Heads up that some elements (i.e. music, sound effects, tone) are harder to translate to text.

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• 1:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  Emery, what are all your hot fruit takes? Do you prefer your fruit hot or not?

• 1:19Amory Sivertson?

  We might be going in the same direction on this one, I think, judging by the question you just asked.

• 1:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  No, no, no, no. That was a joke. So now I'm really excited. We're about to talk about hot fruit. Jesus.

• 1:33Amory Sivertson?

  Maybe.

• 1:34Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, all right.

• 1:36Amory Sivertson?

  I prefer my fruit at all temperatures, depending upon my mood.

• 1:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 1:42Amory Sivertson?

  I waver towards room temperature.

• 1:45Ben Brock Johnson?

  Really?

• 1:46Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do not want to bite into a cold apple. Do not want to bite into a cold strawberry. Oh, terrible cold strawberries.

• 1:55Ben Brock Johnson?

  This is so interesting because this is a perfect, perfect setup for the conversation we're about to have, or that we are now officially having because... Because I I'm a cold, cold or nothing person. I I want my grapefruit chilled. I want my apple is crispy and chilly as possible. I want my oranges cold. I want my grapes cold, even better frozen.

• 2:20Amory Sivertson?

  A citrus fruit, I I will say, like, that is good. Slightly chilled, not too cold. And I do like a frozen grape, but but you must not have very sensitive teeth. Because like a cold apple to me, that's horrible.

• 2:34Ben Brock Johnson?

  It can get you.

• 2:34Amory Sivertson?

  And you're not supposed to refrigerate your apples, right?

• 2:37Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm not a big apples in the summer person. So by the time I'm eating apples, it's pretty cold in my house already. So it's kind of like on the counter, they're already kind of chilled. Does that make any sense? Maybe not, but.

• 2:49Amory Sivertson?

  I don't know. I think you should heat your house is what I think.

• 2:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  Put on a sweater.

• 2:55Ben Brock Johnson?

  All right. So would you like to go first or should I go first?

• 2:58Amory Sivertson?

  I'll go first.

• 2:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  OK.

• 2:59Amory Sivertson?

  Because I've found multiple posts about this now. But the first one that caught my attention was in the unpopular opinion subreddit.

• 3:08Ben Brock Johnson?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:09Amory Sivertson?

  Which I really, I love that place.

• 3:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  Same.

• 3:12Amory Sivertson?

  And someone Forsaken Bread, six, zero, three, four. Forsaken Bread. Their post says, "Microwaving fruit is the way to go."

• 3:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  What?

• 3:25Amory Sivertson?

  This person writes, "Microwaved fruit feels like a warm hug from the inside. It's also fun to experiment with taste and texture post-microwave. Berries turn into hot juice bursts. Bananas taste like dessert.

• 3:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  No.

• 3:39Amory Sivertson?

  Apples turn soft. Add some water to the bottom of the plate for extra mush. Drizzle some honey on top for dessert. Sprinkle some cinnamon for a dash of spice."

• 3:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  OK, well, the beginning of that to me sounded like pure rage bait. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. It sounds complete nonsense to me. However, once they got into the like, sprinkle some cinnamon, put some honey, driz, driz some honey on there.

• 4:09Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm down with the driz.

• 4:10Amory Sivertson?

  Just need to enunciate really well when you say that. Driz.

• 4:14Ben Brock Johnson?

  D starts with a D.

• 4:15Amory Sivertson?

  D.

• 4:16Ben Brock Johnson?

  Driz.

• 4:16Amory Sivertson?

  Driz.

• 4:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  But, but when you do that, I feel like specifically with a banana.

• 4:27Amory Sivertson?

  With some drizz.

• 4:28Ben Brock Johnson?

  With some drizz. Oh my god. That does sound like dessert. That sounds like a tasty hot dessert to me. Or a drizzert, if you will.

• 4:38Amory Sivertson?

  A drizzert, yeah. A lot of people commented that, that that's just what like pie is, right? You want, you want your hot fruit. But of course, many people said, it's obscene.

• 4:54Amory Sivertson?

  Delete this. Someone says, I've literally never heard of this. I'm disgusted, in parentheses, but willing to try it.

• 5:04Amory Sivertson?

  One of the reasons why I cherish the unpopular opinion subreddit is because it's one of, maybe the only subreddit where an upvote validates how bad your opinion is, how unpopular your opinion is.

• 5:18Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oh, interesting.

• 5:19Amory Sivertson?

  The only sub where being wrong makes you a winner. So there were a lot of people who posted some version of

• 5:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  I like that.

• 5:25Amory Sivertson?

  what this one person says, which is, this take absolutely sucks. Take your upvote, weirdo.

• 5:33Amory Sivertson?

  So it's a popular post just because most people are grossed out by it, but it actually makes a lot of sense to me that you might want to microwave some fruit. And other people then were curious to try it. So one person said, mushy microwaved apple with cinnamon sprinkled on top of it. I'm looking forward to it already. And the OP is like, love that. Update us on your success when you're done. Some people need a testimony. This person never comes back to update. So another person comments, he never updated. The microwaved fruit probably got him.

• 6:07Amory Sivertson?

  But I experimented with it just now.

• 6:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, okay.

• 6:12Amory Sivertson?

  Yes, I, I did the apple slices. I wish I'd had a banana because that does sound. Um, a little, a little strange. Although when you freeze banana slices, they do taste like candy. They taste more like,

• 6:27Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 6:27Amory Sivertson?

  like banana flavored things than a regular banana does. So I would imagine that heating it up does the same.

• 6:34Ben Brock Johnson?

  But, well, you know, I mean, bananas foster is a thing, right? Like, there's, there's, there's-

• 6:38Amory Sivertson?

  Are they hot in that, though?

• 6:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 6:41Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, I guess I've never had-

• 6:42Ben Brock Johnson?

  They're on fire.

• 6:43Amory Sivertson?

  Bananas. They're on fire. Okay.

• 6:45Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's like liquor in a pan with some bananas and voila.

• 6:51Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, so I'm not a, not, not a honey gal in particular, but I did take the suggestion of adding a little water to the bottom to, for extra mush, as they say. I sliced and peeled a pink, a pink lady apple, if people care about the specific kind of apple. Sprinkled some cinnamon and some lemon juice, because someone else had recommended lemon juice. Popped it in the microwave for like 40 seconds, flipping the slices over halfway through. I have one left. I'm not going to eat it on the microphone, because I know people will hate me if I do that. So I'm backing away for a moment.

• 7:27Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 7:30Amory Sivertson?

  Verdict is delicious. I find this to be truly a treat. A hug from the inside, as the OP said.

• 7:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  I mean, a hug from the inside isn't even a hug from the inside to me. That's just a weird phrase. Don't like it.

• 7:47Amory Sivertson?

  But I, I like a room temperature apple. I now know that I like a, a microwaved, warm apple. I will try the banana trick and report back, because now I feel like I have to. And, um, I don't care what temperature people eat their fruit, as long as they eat fruit.

• 8:04Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, do you have a banana handy?

• 8:06Amory Sivertson?

  No, I wish. I would have microwaved it.

• 8:08Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay. Well-

• 8:10Amory Sivertson?

  Do you have a banana handy?

• 8:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  I don't. Um-

• 8:14Amory Sivertson?

  Producer Freddie Monahan, do you have a banana handy?

• 8:16Speaker 06

  I'm actually allergic to raw bananas, but maybe I'll need to start buying bananas to microwave them, because I can eat them once they've been heated.

• 8:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oh, interesting. Okay.

• 8:27Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, but maybe also don't risk it. We can just report back.

• 8:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  Not yet.

• 8:32Amory Sivertson?

  I'm not putting, not putting your life on the line here.

• 8:34Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah. All right. None of us have a banana handy. So we're just gonna have to imagine this and/or talk about it. So take a minute while we go to this break and just picture a banana in your mind. Let's start there.

• 8:50Amory Sivertson?

  Drizz or no drizz?

• 8:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  Whatever, whatever floats your boat. If you want to have some drizz on that banana, please, you sick, sick weirdos out there, please drizz the banana. And come, and come back, please. And I'll tell you a little tale about bananas.

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• 10:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, we're back. Um, we have already decided that yes, microwaved fruit, Emery, can be a hug from the inside, which in of itself is a phrase I'm suspicious of, but I, I'm down. If you say, if you say warmed up is good, I'm, I'm willing to try myself. This, when I saw this post, I a little bit lost it. And this is another one that to me, when I first looked at it, it seemed very rage baity to me.

• 11:11Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 11:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  So Emery and Franny,

• 11:16Ben Brock Johnson?

  please look at the thing I just sent you. This, to me, I was like, this cannot be real. This is in the mildly infuriating subreddit and it's, the username has some fruit in it, Evening Tangerine 222.

• 11:35Amory Sivertson?

  I like that.

• 11:37Amory Sivertson?

  Nothing like an evening tangerine. Nothing like an evening tangerine.

• 11:43Ben Brock Johnson?

  An evening tangerine.

• 11:46Amory Sivertson?

  The rest of this episode should just be an improv, an improv song. Evening tangerine.

• 11:56Ben Brock Johnson?

  Tangerine evening, tangerine evening.

• 11:59Amory Sivertson?

  Exactly. You hear that potential?

• 12:03Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's good. It's good.

• 12:05Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, I'm very sorry. Continue.

• 12:07Ben Brock Johnson?

  All right. This post from Evening Tangerine, Evening Tangerine 222 says, "My husband is mildly infuriated that I open a banana from the antenna side.

• 12:22Ben Brock Johnson?

  He says it should be opened from the other side like monkeys. How do you open a banana? A, antenna side, and I think everybody knows what that means, but that's like where the little...

• 12:33Amory Sivertson?

  The little nub.

• 12:34Ben Brock Johnson?

  The little nub. Well, depends on your definition of nub. The handle, the little antenna, if you will.

• 12:41Amory Sivertson?

  Sure.

• 12:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  The part that attaches it to the rest of the banana plant. And then B, it says butthole side, which, I don't know that we want to think about that when we're opening a banana, but whatever the case.

• 12:53Amory Sivertson?

  It's fine as long as you put some drizz on it.

• 12:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oh my god. So, okay, so what's your reaction to this?

• 13:06Amory Sivertson?

  Well, I think the bottom should only be referred to as the butthole side from now on. I think.

• 13:13Amory Sivertson?

  I actually have eyewitnessed an ape or a monkey peel a banana.

• 13:20Amory Sivertson?

  I mean, I guess if that's the way it's done, then that's the way you must do it.

• 13:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  But I mean, how do you do it?

• 13:28Amory Sivertson?

  From the antenna side.

• 13:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  Of course. And how have you ever seen any other human do it?

• 13:36Amory Sivertson?

  Probably antenna side. Although you can, can't you like, like squish it out the butthole side? Like you can, you can hold it from the antenna side and squish it. And it'll come out like if you were, you know, it's like a fancy way of cracking an egg, except it's a fancy way of removing the banana from its casing.

• 13:55Ben Brock Johnson?

  This is too much. This is too much for me.

• 13:59Amory Sivertson?

  I'm noticing that this post got 40,000 upvotes.

• 14:03Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yes.

• 14:04Amory Sivertson?

  It's clearly struck a nerve.

• 14:06Ben Brock Johnson?

  I feel like this is crazy. Franny, can we get a amen to the antenna side? Or are you?

• 14:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, I've heard about opening it from the butthole side, which I think also by calling it the butthole side, this OP is clearly leading with the survey here.

• 14:26Speaker 06

  I, I like, I don't like mushing the banana. Like, when you do it from the antenna side, the banana is pristine. It hasn't been mushed. It's, the banana is the perfect snack, even though I can't eat them because they come with their own wrapper and they're very clean. So.

• 14:45Ben Brock Johnson?

  Excellent points all, Franny. But here's what's weird. Look at this next post that I've sent you.

• 14:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  This is from legit five years ago. And there are posts, when you look across Reddit, there are posts everywhere from like three years ago to seven years ago to five years ago to three months ago, from one month ago. This is frequently posted about. I had no idea this was a debate.

• 15:14Amory Sivertson?

  Same with microwaving fruit. I saw multiple posts. People, people really do take their fruit seriously.

• 15:22Ben Brock Johnson?

  But this says, "Change my view." It's from the Change My View subreddit. "The only correct way to peel and eat a banana is from the bottom." "Peeling and eating a banana from the bottom," I appreciate this description better than the butthole side, "is the correct way to do so for a multitude of reasons. First off, a banana splits easier from the bottom," today I learned, "so the likelihood of crushing part of the banana, Franny, due to it not opening like it does when using the stem is much lower."

• 15:55Amory Sivertson?

  That makes sense to me.

• 15:57Ben Brock Johnson?

  You think the banana is potentially more pristine if you open it from the bottom?

• 16:02Amory Sivertson?

  Yes, because haven't we all had the experience of peeling from the antenna side? And it's not quite ripe enough yet? Or just something goes a little wrong and suddenly you've smooshed-

• 16:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  Or it's very ripe.

• 16:13Amory Sivertson?

  The top of the banana.

• 16:14Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 16:15Speaker 06

  I don't have a lot of banana experience. I'm sorry. I'm allergic.

• 16:19Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, stop asking your banana questions, Ben. This is very-

• 16:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  If you were to try to-

• 16:25Amory Sivertson?

  It's triggering.

• 16:26Ben Brock Johnson?

  If you were to try to asphyxiate yourself.

• 16:29Amory Sivertson?

  She's getting hives just thinking about it.

• 16:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  Fair. Secondly, the stem of a banana is very clearly a handle and should be used as such. Having the extra area to grab onto makes it much easier to hold and eat overall. And when you are almost done eating it, you still have a sold, a solid place, I assume, to hold the peel by rather than having to take the whole banana out of the skin. Thirdly, it's how the monkeys do it. While humans have evolved away from them, they have had thousands of years to protect, to perfect the art of banana eating, and they do it from the bottom. Okay, final reason is a combination of the three previous. That's okay. That's not a number four. Come on. It's the way nature intended it, okay?

• 17:16Ben Brock Johnson?

  Nature constantly creates structures in the most efficient way, from honeycombs to antels or any number of other natural structures. They are made in a way that is the most efficient. So if you are not supposed to eat a banana from the bottom, why is the stem a handle? And why does the bottom split easier? And why do monkeys eat it the correct way? So please, incorrect banana eaters, bring me to your side and change my view.

• 17:42Amory Sivertson?

  I'm not buying the handle business. That's too tiny of a handle. You know, you're still gonna end up holding most of the body of the banana, even if you peel it from the bottom. Or else you're really balancing that banana from that little teeny tiny stem. I don't buy it.

• 17:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  I think what this makes me think about is like, one of the beauties of Reddit and other internet communities, but it seems very specifically Reddit-y to me, is like, it just reminds me that there's whole debates that I just,

• 18:17Ben Brock Johnson?

  I can't believe that I didn't know that there was another way to do it. Like, there's a whole new banana opening world that I didn't even know about.

• 18:29Amory Sivertson?

  That is true. And I can't believe that this first post that you sent, this, this couple that is supposedly married, if, did you scroll down and look at any of the comments?

• 18:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  A little bit, yeah.

• 18:42Amory Sivertson?

  So the top comment is a great little gif of a chimp. And the comment is, OP's husband watching from the pantry.

• 18:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's pretty funny.

• 18:51Amory Sivertson?

  And then OP responds and says, literally, I offered him a bite because I realized he was watching me. And he's like, no, I can't believe you right now. You opened it from the wrong side. Which really makes it seem like this is the first time that this married couple have ever witnessed each other engaging in the art of banana eating.

• 19:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah. The other thing that's interesting, or another positive way of spinning this is, no matter how long you've been with your partner, you're gonna discover new things.

• 19:22Amory Sivertson?

  That's right. Also, we don't do a lot of things that, that apes and monkeys do, for the record. So we can eat our bananas however the hell we want.

• 19:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 19:32Amory Sivertson?

  As long as we microwave them.

• 19:38Ben Brock Johnson?

  Listeners, we would love to hear from you on where you fall via both of these issues, microwaving fruit and which end of the banana you doth open said banana from. Because it's important to Amory and I to know whose side you're on and whether or not you should be listened to in the future.

• 20:04Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 20:04Ben Brock Johnson?

  And whether or not we should, honestly. Because I open mine from the STEM side and so does Amory. We may lose a bunch of listeners.

• 20:14Amory Sivertson?

  Well, when I get my next banana, I'm gonna open it from the butt side. I feel like you didn't want me to say butthole, so I said butt. But then I just said butthole, so here we are again.

• 20:28Ben Brock Johnson?

  You know, whatever.

• 20:29Amory Sivertson?

  I'm gonna open it from the bottom.

• 20:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yes.

• 20:32Amory Sivertson?

  And then I'm gonna pop it right in the microwave and I'll report back on both experiences.

• 20:37Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 20:38Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 20:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  All right, great. I look forward to your exhaustive report.

• 20:45Ben Brock Johnson?

  And nobody send Franny any fresh banana.

• 20:48Amory Sivertson?

  No.

• 20:49Ben Brock Johnson?

  Unless it has instructions to be microwaved.

• 20:52Amory Sivertson?

  That's right. Banana bread, she'll take it all. Warm it up.

• 20:57Ben Brock Johnson?

  Bananas foster?

• 20:58Amory Sivertson?

  Sure. Well, eat your fruit.

• 21:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  Eat your fruit.

• 21:36Amory Sivertson?

  Endless Thread is a production of WBUR in Boston. This episode was produced by Franny Monahan and us, Amory Sivertson and?

• 21:45Ben Brock Johnson?

  Ben Brock Johnson. Mix and sound design- By Emily Jankowski, original music, AKA Evening Tangerine, the song of 2026. By us, production by Mike Moskato.

• 21:55Amory Sivertson?

  The rest of our team is Grace Tatter, Dean Russell, Chiosna Bernadette, our production manager, Paul Vikes, and our managing producer, Sumit Joshi. If you have a hot fruit take, a cold fruit take, any temperature of fruit take, hit us up. [email protected].

• 22:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  See ya.

• 22:11Speaker 00

  It's nothing like an evening tangerine, nothing like an evening tangerine, nothing like an evening tangerine. You can have it cold or hot, with a little drizzle or not. So nothing like an evening tangerine, tangerine, tangerine, tangerine, tangerine. Support for this podcast comes from Is Business Broken?, a podcast from the Marotra

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  I am absolutely in favor of AI in learning in the right context.

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• 23:20Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, my gosh, individualized support, right? Personalization and to be able to scale quality education in places where it was historically impossible. So for certain kinds of learners with different kinds of learning styles and disabilities, for example, speakers of different languages, there are amazing ways AI can boost learning. It just has to be with the right context. And age appropriateness is something we do a lot of work in because it is very different depending on where in that maturity cycle you are in terms of how your brain develops.

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