#2434 - Kurt Metzger

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:12Joe Rogan?

  Feel good?

• 0:13Speaker 02

  I was trying to get a John Lilly picture. It's John Lilly, but we're in a state.

• 0:18Joe Rogan?

  Is the Carhartt, uh...

• 0:20Speaker 02

  No.

• 0:20Joe Rogan?

  Specific time period appropriate? No?

• 0:22Speaker 02

  It's, uh, it's supposed to be like a boiler suit.

• 0:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 0:26Speaker 02

  But, uh, my, it didn't arrive.

• 0:27Joe Rogan?

  What is a boiler suit?

• 0:29Speaker 02

  Like a coverall.

• 0:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, like something you'd wear in the boiler room?

• 0:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, but there's the best kind you get, I would have done a mashup. Now, see, here he's got kind of a pleather jumpsuit. He's got a lot of great looks.

• 0:41Joe Rogan?

  That guy was out there.

• 0:43Speaker 02

  Two diamond studs. Oh, let me take off my John C. Lilly glasses.

• 0:49Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, he invented, uh, the isolation, uh, goon tank.

• 0:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  You go in there and goon, it's like you're in space, dude.

• 0:56Joe Rogan?

  My friend actually went in his tank and did ketamine with him before he went in his tank.

• 1:01Speaker 02

  Who?

• 1:02Joe Rogan?

  Todd McCormick.

• 1:04Speaker 02

  Ew, what happened?

• 1:05Joe Rogan?

  He, John Lilly shot him up with an intramuscular shot of ketamine before he went into the tank.

• 1:13Joe Rogan?

  He's like, "This is what I do. You wanna do it?" He's like, "Okay, sure."

• 1:16Speaker 02

  John Lilly's like, "Hey, do you wanna watch my parents fucking to conceive me? I like to do that in this tank."

• 1:21Joe Rogan?

  Let's go back in time.

• 1:23Speaker 02

  I like to go into the fucking, what do they call that Buddhist thing where you go and watch your parents fuck?

• 1:27Joe Rogan?

  Is that a real thing?

• 1:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, the, in this, I forget the afterlife, their whole mapping the afterlife thing.

• 1:34Joe Rogan?

  But can they do it like with meditation or something? Is that what you're saying?

• 1:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, but they say...

• 1:38Joe Rogan?

  If you could choose to do that?

• 1:40Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:40Joe Rogan?

  If you could go back in time and watch something, but only one thing, and that thing is your parents fucking, you could be back in 1976 or whenever it was you were born.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  I don't know, what, so what do I get out of that?

• 1:51Joe Rogan?

  Nothing.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Just a research, valuable research.

• 1:54Joe Rogan?

  You only get one trip back in time. Everybody gets a trip back in time to see what it was like. But that's the only thing you get to see.

• 2:00Speaker 02

  It sounds like Tibetan Buddhism, what you're describing to me. Pretty sure that's what, uh, what do they call it when you go, the place you go to watch your parents fuck? Jamie, aren't you a Buddhist? The Bodak? It's not called that.

• 2:13Joe Rogan?

  Um.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  How you like that Nicki Minaj, huh? Really, uh?

• 2:17Joe Rogan?

  What about her?

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Did you watch, you, you, we've been covering, uh, TPUSA all week.

• 2:21Joe Rogan?

  Okay, you're deep in the woods. I'm not. I stay out of that. If it seems like-

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Why? It's such, it's so great.

• 2:27Joe Rogan?

  Cause it seems like that the, the, the right wing of this country is in some sort of a weird gang war.

• 2:36Speaker 02

  There never was a fucking united right wing. It was a bunch of people needing some shit done that didn't get done and now they're upset about it. And so, the thought, so, because here's the thing, the important part-

• 2:45Joe Rogan?

  It's a bunch of people scrambling to be in control of the narrative too, right?

• 2:49Speaker 02

  The poly market dudes have some network. They, there's also, like the show I sold called The Cutout. They do these cutout things where it's like, you, you pay a, uh, company to put up. Remember when, when Elon showed what countries all the tweets are coming from?

• 3:03Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  Okay. Why the fuck are Indians and Sri Lankans tweeting about Israel Palestine shit, right? Well, it's because there's these bounties they put up and you can get invited to like a circle. Remember when you would show me those things people would get of like, hey, say this shit and we'll give you this money? Well, now there's a bounty system. It's on Jimmy's channel. It's fucking amazing. So all the, so a bunch of people that I would watch them just like flip and say a thing like it's their job to say it. It was their job, but they're trying to hit a certain amount of engagement and then you get like 50 grand. Uh, I, I can't remember the name of the guy that, that pointed out, but it's really good fucking work.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  Ah shit, I should have looked up.

• 3:41Joe Rogan?

  So, it's not just bots.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  The Bardo.

• 3:45Joe Rogan?

  Bardo of becoming Tibetan teaching after death consciousness passes through several bardos culminating in the Bardo of becoming. Where karmic visions of one's next life arise. During this phase, there are increasingly frequent flashes of the environment, parents and circumstances in which one will be conceived. And one is drawn towards these as a kind of refuge or new home. That's interesting, but not as interesting as the influencers.

• 4:10Speaker 00

  Thank you, perplexity.

• 4:11Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, no, it's all.

• 4:12Joe Rogan?

  Thank you to our sponsor, perplexity.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  You can always tell who's getting paid to say a thing because they'll use specific phrases.

• 4:18Joe Rogan?

  Like, I just got paid to say that.

• 4:19Speaker 02

  Um, well, it sounds like a fair, I thought it was very interesting and informative and, uh, I'd like to learn if you have a brochure.

• 4:26Joe Rogan?

  How many people are doing that? This is, this is the thing. The, the, the conversation's always been like, other countries are doing it.

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:33Joe Rogan?

  And then they have bots and fake accounts, which is definitely true as well. But it seems like also, they're paying people to say things.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, well.

• 4:41Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of people that seem like they're doing it like it's a job, right?

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Me, assuming someone either is, uh, blackmailed or MKUltra, it's me being kind of positive because really a lot of these people are just sacks of shit that are going for a bounty. So.

• 4:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  If you were MKUltra, that's like kinda cooler than that, I think.

• 4:57Joe Rogan?

  And you think some of them can just sort of justify that bounty, that, you know, whatever country's paying it, you know, hey, you know, they have their own rights.

• 5:04Speaker 02

  It's specific, like billionaires and shit pay it.

• 5:07Joe Rogan?

  And it works both ways, I'm sure. I'm sure a lot of the.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  Both ways with what?

• 5:10Joe Rogan?

  Anti-Israel stuff, people being paid a bounty, don't you think? Don't you think like there's, there's certain people involved in that as well, that are probably being paid? It's from all around, right?

• 5:19Speaker 02

  That crime that got done in Gaza, and they're done now, so everybody can relax.

• 5:22Joe Rogan?

  Is it done?

• 5:23Speaker 02

  They got, they got it done, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's done. So, watch the only thing he'll see, and he'll explain it to you. But, uh, so that crime that's done now, the reason that the frantic buying up of the media by Larry, the, the shadow president Larry Ellison, is because they lost the next generation of trauma-controlled fucking mind slaves because on TikTok, these psychopaths bragged about crimes they did to people. And all the young zoomies are on there, including in America, we were force-fed woke bullshit by the oligarchs who are now suddenly horrified, because they didn't think it would blow back that their kids would absorb that crap. Guess who has not had woke programming for the last 12 years? Israel. So, you can tell who's involved with the propaganda now, because they have no concept of the sensitivities of these gender blobs that were made in this country.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  So now they lost the next generation, so now they're frantically buying TikTok, they're putting Barry Weiss in charge of fucking, that's gonna work out great. I'll bet she's already out based on the town hall alone that we covered. One of the worst things I've ever seen.

• 6:21Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see it.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  Well, you're lucky. But, uh, we covered all.

• 6:24Joe Rogan?

  I gotcha. I'm trying to stay out of most of this stuff, because every time I talk to you, I get dragged in, and I get paranoid and anxiety.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, no, you could be killed. I mean, you saw what happened to Charlie Kirk. I know, you easily could be killed and, uh, you know. Uh, yeah, I don't know.

• 6:38Joe Rogan?

  Does Jimmy worry about that?

• 6:39Speaker 02

  Jimmy got his phone hacked with Pegasus that time.

• 6:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  He got, uh, Bohemian Grove thing is hilarious.

• 6:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Cause he, it's so funny, cause he, you could tell he's one of 12 kids, cause he feels left out of shit still in a way with things. And I, it's like, why did I go that thing? I'm like, well, you got an opportunity and then you brought that Nixon joke about Bohemian Grove. You know their Nixon quote?

• 7:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  He goes, you heard, you heard that quote, right? And they go, no. They'd not heard it.

• 7:04Joe Rogan?

  They'd not, come on.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  And he said it, then they didn't laugh.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  They, nobody laughed.

• 7:10Joe Rogan?

  Let's play the recording of Nixon saying it, cause it's even funnier. Hey, we're back.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Hey.

• 7:15Joe Rogan?

  We've got an issue.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  What happened?

• 7:17Joe Rogan?

  Two, two podcasts in a row, the podcast.

• 7:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we got a, we got a software glitch. Um, what were we just talking about? Oh, the Nixon audio.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  Sweet audio.

• 7:28Joe Rogan?

  In his own voice, the foggiest damn thing I've ever seen.

• 7:31Speaker 02

  From time to time, I've been there. The San Francisco crowd.

• 7:35Joe Rogan?

  So I think there's always been places where dudes go to get their freak on. The lost Nixon tapes, here it is. During discussion with Haidelman and Kissinger about, whoops. Uh, about youth conference, uh, annual youth conference, the subject turned to homosexuality and society.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  As it always does.

• 7:55Joe Rogan?

  Give, just give me some of those.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  I mean, every quote.

• 8:00Joe Rogan?

  Gays are born that way? No, this seems different. Oh, well Nixon was progressive. Gays are born that way.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  He's a real Lady Guga.

• 8:07Joe Rogan?

  You know, the whole Nixon getting booted from the White House story, right? You know the Watergate story, how they set him up?

• 8:13Speaker 02

  Bob Woodward, yeah.

• 8:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. How crazy is that?

• 8:16Speaker 02

  Wow, your naval, naval intel on your first big break is the Watergate.

• 8:20Joe Rogan?

  How crazy is that story? It's a complete story.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  It's the template for all of the media for how long.

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• 10:42Speaker 00

  Here it is.

• 10:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 10:43Speaker 00

  President.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  Now guess what?

• 11:00Joe Rogan?

  From time to time. This is, that quote, it's the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  You know what's funny? Sir Cecil Rhodes, he kept saying he wanted to make bundles of men, you know, like a bundle of sticks?

• 11:14Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  Of men in his round tables. You know, a bundle of sticks is of course a faggot, that's not the slur. But the goal of Cecil Rhodes was to create secret faggots around the world.

• 11:27Joe Rogan?

  Secret ones.

• 11:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, bundles of men, fraternal organizations. The names don't matter if you're dumb group, whatever. Everybody's in a stupid fucking, the knights of the order of some gay shit, right?

• 11:37Joe Rogan?

  Skull and bones.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and, look, when he's saying, uh, the F slur like that, I don't think he just means a little bit of, uh, man on man action. I think he's talking about the ceremonies and the dress up.

• 11:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, the dress up, the whole Renaissance fair thing.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, eh eh, the owl thing, like, never mind anything you heard they did, okay? That's just nonsense talk, but just the things you know they did.

• 12:00Joe Rogan?

  The video that Alex Jones got. The video that Alex Jones got is, and he did it, by the way, back with John Ronson, back when Alex Jones wasn't radioactive, yeah. So Alex Jones and John Ronson sneak into Bohemian Grove. Alex Jones filmed them. Everybody was like, he's crazy, he's a kook. He's filming them doing this fucking wacky ceremony in front of Molek, the owl god.

• 12:20Speaker 02

  No, well, it's not Molek.

• 12:21Joe Rogan?

  It isn't?

• 12:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:22Joe Rogan?

  What is the owl?

• 12:23Speaker 02

  Um, it's, it's, I mean, um, first of all, from what I understand, Molek is a type of sacrifice usually to Ba'al, which is, uh, like a rich man, you know?

• 12:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, I thought that owl, the big owl.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  It was not Molek.

• 12:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, which one's owl? Molek?

• 12:38Speaker 02

  I've heard the owl's called Care, like that cremation of Care, there's, but it's supposed to be the Artemis owl, is from what I understand, or Athena, Athena Artemis, the same thing.

• 12:47Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't have a specific names, but it's a symbol of Minerva, the Roman goddess of wisdom, representing the club's values. That's what they say.

• 12:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, the club's values are, so whenever they say wisdom, that means, uh, magic shit.

• 12:59Joe Rogan?

  Can I see an image of what that, um, that statue, large owl statue looks like?

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Oh, they make a big deal about misidentifying it as Moloch.

• 13:07Joe Rogan?

  Come on, man, that is weird as fuck. Okay, so what, what does Moloch look like? Just pull that up. Let's find out what Moloch looks like.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  I think, I, I, I think now they no longer think Moloch was an actual god and they think it was a type of sacrifice.

• 13:21Joe Rogan?

  An ancient Christian, oh, Moloch, so Moloch was like a bull.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  That's Baal, I mean, there was a bunch, well, there's a bunch of Baals, there's Baal, Hadad, Baal Iman.

• 13:31Joe Rogan?

  Okay, but which is, is Moloch and Baal connected?

• 13:36Joe Rogan?

  Cause there were all these Moloch pictures showing like a bull.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  So the sacrifice itself, from what I understand, and you probably have somebody on that could correct it, but at this point, they kind of think, cause it only says MLK in the original writing, so it's a type of sacrifice to the bull god, you understand?

• 13:50Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 13:51Speaker 02

  It's a Molech sacrifice, so you get material gain for your firstborn, like, that's a Molech.

• 13:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh god, look at this one.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  I thi- I think that's what it is now.

• 13:59Joe Rogan?

  Look at this one, the, the statue of men that's stuffed with men.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  What's the big deal? We do that, tech people do that, Burning Man, we commemorate it. Yo, can't rich, old fruits have a Burning Man of their own?

• 14:11Joe Rogan?

  They already do, it's called Burning Man.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's called just blowing people up.

• 14:16Joe Rogan?

  Uh, Canaanite deity associated with, in biblical sources with the practice of child sacrifice. It derives from combining the consonants of the Hebrew melik, king, and the vowels bochet, shame. The later often being used in the Old Testament as a variant name for the popular god Baal. So maybe they're calling it, was he calling it Moloch? Cause that's how, uh, Alex Jones was referring it to, to it. Was it because it was a child sacrifice?

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Um, maybe, and also keep in mind, just because they, it's an owl, whatever, people that do goofy pagan shit. You gotta think of like, did he change in his name every time he does a crime?

• 14:51Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  That's how these gods work, so it'll be like, no, his name's not that, it's this other thing, and you're like, wait, that, they're more. And, and so you can mix and match them, it's called alchemy, you could, you could grind them in their constituents and mix and match them all kinds of great ways.

• 15:05Joe Rogan?

  That being said, they're doing something weird, they're wearing robes, they're chanting, and they're, they're carrying a bundle of sticks that's supposed to like represent a body or something like that.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  And then they're gonna talk, yeah.

• 15:14Joe Rogan?

  Burning an effigy, the whole thing is fucking bizarre. If somebody invited me to that, and then that's what we went and did, I would never hang out with them again. I'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

• 15:24Speaker 02

  What if you have to make a decision to be a fucking mass murderer on the order of any mass murder they told you is bad, and so you need to cremate your care?

• 15:31Joe Rogan?

  Or you wanna sell natural gas and get that pipeline opened up?

• 15:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I wanna burn my dull care about the bad things I'm doing away, cause I can't not do it, I'll be killed, so.

• 15:39Joe Rogan?

  Also, you wanna be compromised, because that's how you do business.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  That's how I do business. That's how I met my dolphin wife. Shauna Rothman.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  I know she looks young, but she's of age.

• 15:55Joe Rogan?

  My favorite part about the Lily story is the experiments that the lady was doing with the dolphins when she was living in the house with them and she had to jerk them off. Otherwise, they wouldn't pay attention and people found out about it and they shut the science down.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  It made them more, it made the dolphin more, Peter, he had a name show. It's Peter the Dolphin and he took his own life. After.

• 16:14Joe Rogan?

  He took his own life?

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Peter the Dolphin killed himself.

• 16:16Joe Rogan?

  How did he do that?

• 16:19Speaker 02

  I had, it's really dumb and obvious, but I didn't guess what it was.

• 16:22Joe Rogan?

  Did he just inhale all the water?

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, he just drowned himself. I, I thought he like jumped out of the water. It's like a big fan or something.

• 16:28Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  I couldn't figure out how they do it, but yeah.

• 16:30Joe Rogan?

  Tied C4 to himself and just flipped over into the crowd.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Bruce has told me about all the, how they would drain dolphin jihadis.

• 16:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Blow up.

• 16:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, we had dolphin jihadis.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  We drained dolphin jihadis.

• 16:43Joe Rogan?

  We had dolphin kamikazes. We took dolphins, we like, we love you. Hey, I'm gonna just give you a little collar. Go find the Russians.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  Let me tell you, if you want to demoralize, because I, I texted you some real dolphin info.

• 16:57Joe Rogan?

  You did?

• 16:57Speaker 02

  I have, and I have permission to hear.

• 16:59Joe Rogan?

  When you text me, you text me so much, I can't read it all. It's not possible.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Well, that's good because this is gonna be a real treat for you to hear.

• 17:06Joe Rogan?

  I like how you're still going with the old school, uh, white background in your texts.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Um, why? Do you think I should change it?

• 17:12Joe Rogan?

  Nope, nope.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 17:13Joe Rogan?

  Be you.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  Is it a bad background?

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Um, okay, so, you know, they always say dolphins are a little amorous is the term they use in dolphin handling.

• 17:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  I'm allowed to talk about this as long as I change the name of the person and the dolphin. I was told.

• 17:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you told me, oh, you did send me that. That's right.

• 17:32Speaker 02

  Okay, cuz I was like, you know, they always say dolphins are, I always feel like.

• 17:35Joe Rogan?

  Don't say your friend's name, but tell the story cuz it's crazy.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, uh, I always feel like they're smearing dolphins, like how we did to a great man Saddam Hussein. Remember we smeared that guy and he was the best president of Iraq they've ever had?

• 17:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, about Gaddafi.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  I, I don't even wanna bring that one up cuz that's really depressing.

• 17:50Joe Rogan?

  That's a crazy one.

• 17:51Speaker 02

  The most prosperous country in all of Africa.

• 17:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  Screwed up three other countries when, uh, unreal.

• 17:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a great clip of, uh, clip of Russell Crowe explaining all the things Gaddafi did on this podcast. Explaining how we're, we're supposed to think Gaddafi's the bad guy, but.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  He's right. He's exactly right. Russell Crowe was dead on with that.

• 18:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, a hundred percent.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  So I'm like, maybe dolphins are just another Gaddafi.

• 18:13Joe Rogan?

  Gaddafi gave everyone free education. Everyone, when they reached a certain age, got a home. If you had a specific skill, they would send you to another university and pay for it, wherever they had to send you.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Authoritarian.

• 18:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, that too. But so are we. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. It's all pretend.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  Well, I hate to bring it up, but ISIS is in charge of Syria now, even while morons will tell you ISIS is attacking Christians in Nigeria.

• 18:39Joe Rogan?

  Listen.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  Is everybody retarded?

• 18:41Joe Rogan?

  You're always a glass half empty. At least Netanyahu got a pardon.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Did he? From who? Trump?

• 18:47Joe Rogan?

  Trump.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  How could Trump pardon Netanyahu for... Well, how does that work?

• 18:52Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. You ask me.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  Who... You... Okay.

• 18:56Joe Rogan?

  Someone should cue the America Fuck Yeah music right now.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  Oh, we're bombing Venezuela too, by the way. It's...

• 19:03Joe Rogan?

  Just, hey, hey, dude. No disinformation. Drone bombing. We're not even there.

• 19:07Speaker 02

  No, we got ground... We reported yesterday, we got ground people going.

• 19:10Joe Rogan?

  Netanyahu says Trump will be the first non-Israeli to receive Israel prize. Oh, Trump got a prize. Nice. The first non-Israeli announces Trump will be the first non-Israeli to receive Israel prize for tremendous contributions.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, they should give him a fucking prize.

• 19:27Joe Rogan?

  You gotta make deals. You wanna make omelets? You gotta crack a few eggs.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  Uh... There's no omelet coming.

• 19:33Joe Rogan?

  I'd like the prize. Nobody gets it. But Israelis, I wanna be the first.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  There's no omelet ever coming, whenever someone says that.

• 19:41Joe Rogan?

  What did he pardon Netanyahu for? I didn't know that Netanyahu was in trouble.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  I knew he was about to be overthrown before October 7th happened and they tragically...

• 19:49Joe Rogan?

  But that's over there. Let that go. But right here.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  But what are we pardoning for here then?

• 19:55Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Oh, that's right.

• 19:56Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  I wonder if there's anything in it blacked out in the Epstein thing.

• 20:00Joe Rogan?

  Didn't...

• 20:01Speaker 02

  Well, that's a real insult, huh?

• 20:03Speaker 00

  This is now the pardon has been, uh... They're disputing it.

• 20:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're arguing already?

• 20:10Speaker 00

  Israel's president denies telling Trump a Netanyahu pardon is, quote, "on its way."

• 20:15Speaker 02

  But he's not an American citizen, is he?

• 20:17Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute. Hold on a second. Say that again. Say this statement again.

• 20:19Speaker 00

  It's the headline.

• 20:20Joe Rogan?

  Israel's president denies telling Trump a Netanyahu pardon is on his way. So, what does that mean? So Netanyahu denies saying that to Trump is what it sounds like. Doesn't it sound like that?

• 20:31Speaker 00

  Isaac Herzog.

• 20:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Isaac Herzog. Well, wait a minute. Oh, the prime minister. So they have a prime minister and a president. Okay. I'm so ignorant. Uh, swiftly denied President Trump's claim on Monday that he had told US President he would pardon Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He's into... What is that saying? "I think he will," Trump said when asked if Netanyahu would get a pardon. How do you not? He's a wartime prime minister who's a hero. How do you not give a pardon?

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. He's gonna pull his ass out of the fryer, too.

• 21:03Joe Rogan?

  I think what he's saying is that he would get a pardon from the President of Israel. That's what I think he's saying.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:10Joe Rogan?

  Okay. So this is why it's confusing to people.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  Well, half of Israel hates that motherfucker, by the way. Okay? And, uh, he was about to be overthrown.

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• 22:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, there were certainly large protests in the street the day before October 7th happened. Is it, is it true that there was a stand-down on October 7th?

• 22:53Speaker 02

  The IDF people were talking about the day at we, it's on Jimmy's show.

• 22:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, I'm asking you, so the people that don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  They won't believe me. They'll say John Lilly's a liar.

• 23:03Joe Rogan?

  Why don't you say it?

• 23:03Speaker 02

  They'll say John Lilly's a dolphin fucking liar.

• 23:06Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no. They wouldn't say that. They wouldn't say that.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  Um.

• 23:10Joe Rogan?

  What are you looking up?

• 23:11Speaker 02

  Um, oh, cuz I, we got into this cuz I was gonna tell you the truth about dolphins.

• 23:15Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  A dolphin like, a Netanyahu like fish.

• 23:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the dolphin experience.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Cuz this is gonna, this is like.

• 23:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  This is more important things than a measly genocide in the, okay.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  Okay, so I asked if they're just smearing dolphins, right?

• 23:30Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  So she said, what they say about dolphin rape, it's true. All caps. They are very sexual animals and even masturbate. Young males can get very horny and it's like they go into a trance. For some reason, they like knees. So I was doing a program with a very nice family and I saw Flippy, name changed, uh, drop to the lady's knees and start buzzing on them. That's echolocation. So groom your knees with their echolocation abilities.

• 23:58Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  So I'm like, fucking great. That's all caps. So I followed protocol and put myself in between the dolphin and the guests and asked them to get out of the water. So, so you understand there's a protocol in place for when Flippy starts echolocating your knees. Okay.

• 24:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  Flippy then starts circling me fast with his dick out, hooking my leg and dragging me into deep water. As he's doing it, it literally looks like the scene in Jaws where the shark's hitting the girl. She's like whipping around. Uh, and she's jerking around and you can't see what's happening under the water. Ob- Obviously, I'm fucking terrified and I'm trying to play it off to the guests like everything is fine. So I'm laughing and saying, you know how dogs get a lo- a little rough when they play?

• 24:43Joe Rogan?

  That's what she's saying to the guests?

• 24:45Speaker 02

  She's whipping like Jaws, like, what? It's like a dog. Okay, that's protocol, by the way, so I guess it's good work. Um, then my shoes come off and start floating and the guests try to get back in the water to get my shoes for me and I yell, "No!" La mal. I managed to get away and walk out, only mental scars, thank god all cabs, you know? I was wearing a wet, thank god I was wearing a wet suit, I would have felt that slimy dick hooking my legs. It's like a Japanese anime hanging out with dolphins.

• 25:13Joe Rogan?

  But, you know what? Look, it's, it's terrible, but they're prisoners and they didn't do anything wrong. That's what's weird.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, I know Corwic can convict them. That's what I, John C. Lilly.

• 25:24Joe Rogan?

  They're just dolphins. Why are they in prison?

• 25:26Speaker 02

  They're a lot like, uh-

• 25:27Joe Rogan?

  They just got unlucky. They're basically dolphin slaves.

• 25:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're kinda like, uh, the dogs of the sea, I think. I don't think they're like, uh, human intelligence. Sounds like they're like a little-

• 25:36Joe Rogan?

  They have a cerebral cortex that's forty percent larger than a human being. They have language and dialects. We don't even understand what their language is, but they can understand ours. Like, they can learn things and-

• 25:46Speaker 02

  Look, I'm trying to defend dolphins from the rape charges here. If you wanna-

• 25:49Joe Rogan?

  I see what you're saying. I think, well, do you know what else they do that's really awful?

• 25:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:53Joe Rogan?

  They kill the babies.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:55Joe Rogan?

  There's, uh, infanticide in dolphins is really common to the point that it makes dolphin females promiscuous. Because the female tries to mate with as many men as possible so that the men won't kill her babies.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 26:07Joe Rogan?

  Cause they don't know if it's theirs.

• 26:08Speaker 02

  It's a real sixties animal, you know? They do things their own way, the dolphins.

• 26:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, man.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Hey, man, you don't get dolphins.

• 26:15Joe Rogan?

  They just don't change their environment, so we don't think of them as, as intelligent, but they're fucking smart as shit.

• 26:20Speaker 02

  Well, you know the thing of pushing people on the shore that are like drowning?

• 26:23Joe Rogan?

  That's bullshit?

• 26:24Speaker 02

  No, they will, but it's not like they're saving you. It's like, why don't you get your trash out of my space, please? Y'all don't want sharks here, assholes. Take your shit back.

• 26:33Joe Rogan?

  Who was it that had that theory about sharks? And I think he's right.

• 26:37Speaker 02

  What?

• 26:37Joe Rogan?

  He was like, sharks are not just targeting people because they're hungry. They're targeting people because they're pissed off that people in their water and they're getting in the way of their fishing. And they're getting in the way of their eating seals.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:50Joe Rogan?

  They're pissed off. They're, they're not supposed to be there, so they just bite you. Like, get the fuck out of here. That's part of it.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  A little nibble from a shark is probably a real strong message.

• 26:57Joe Rogan?

  They just lost a lady in Santa Cruz, triathlete. She was, uh, with a whole group of people that were swimming and someone saw her get taken. Someone saw this shark breach the water with a human body in their mouth and then they, she was gone. And then they just found her remains, uh, yesterday. But, uh- Santa Cruz, like that whole coastline is filled with great whites. There's great whites all over the place out there. I think they breed in San, outside of San Francisco.

• 27:29Speaker 02

  Uh, I mean, I never surf, so I never.

• 27:32Joe Rogan?

  Fuck that.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, like.

• 27:34Joe Rogan?

  Fuck swimming in the ocean and rolling the dice. That a monster just doesn't decide to just snap you in half.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  I just, the worst way to get grabbed. I just like, not in your environment.

• 27:45Joe Rogan?

  It must be so terr- you're so weak and slow there in the ocean. You're so helpless.

• 27:50Speaker 02

  You know what? Let's see a shark take me up here. I bet I could take him.

• 27:52Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Not so tough.

• 27:54Joe Rogan?

  Zero shark attacks on the shore. Remember that, uh, Saturday Night Live sketch, Land Shark? That was hilarious. It was so stupid. The shark would just knock on your door.

• 28:04Joe Rogan?

  Land Shark! It was so silly. Saturday Night Live used to have some great sketches, man. He used to be so silly. I haven't watched it in forever.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  You know what I could wish I could find is, and you can't get it, it's like not up anywhere, but, uh, the one with Norm MacDonald is Who's the Most Grizzled? It was Norm MacDonald, that country singer that Tom Segura always says is a serial killer, uh, who was very good in the sketch.

• 28:27Joe Rogan?

  Garth Brooks.

• 28:27Speaker 02

  Garth Brooks, and it was like, he's like, and Ra- uh, Robert Duvall. Okay? And it was just like a game show and they have you give grizzled answers. It was funny as shit, dude.

• 28:37Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 28:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's funny.

• 28:38Speaker 02

  And Robert Duvall gave the most grizzled an- oh, you found it.

• 28:41Joe Rogan?

  Is this a real show?

• 28:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is one of my favorite. Huh, wow. I was trying to find it not even that long ago, dude.

• 28:48Joe Rogan?

  Let me hear some of this. Can I hear it? That's great.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  That's on Reddit? Oh, okay. I could never find it.

• 28:54Joe Rogan?

  That's very funny. That's a good sketch.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  You know what? Uh, what's his name again? Garth, uh, Brooks?

• 28:59Joe Rogan?

  Garth Brooks.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Boy, he's a man of a million faces.

• 29:02Joe Rogan?

  That's not Garth Brooks.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was Garth Brooks.

• 29:04Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Am I wrong? That was Garth Brooks and Robert, uh.

• 29:07Joe Rogan?

  Nah. Nah. Was it?

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was Garth Brooks.

• 29:12Joe Rogan?

  Was it really? Garth Brooks in makeup?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:14Joe Rogan?

  That was Garth Brooks?

• 29:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, you don't even recognize him.

• 29:16Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. I didn't recognize him at all. Let me see, let me see that again. Maybe that's how he kills people. He dresses up like that, dude. That does not look like Garth Brooks. That's crazy.

• 29:24Speaker 02

  It was a while ago.

• 29:26Joe Rogan?

  He's, he's kinda bigger now. He's been enjoying that good life. You know what I'm saying?

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:32Joe Rogan?

  Do you know, people are repeating Tom's idea, that joke about Garth Brooks being a serial killer? As if it's like, true fact?

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, well, it's, uh, it is the weirdest thing, but I, I would say don't focus too much on one person having an alter ego. Uh, Nicki Minaj has that.

• 29:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but the Chris Gaines thing was nuts. In the middle of being the biggest superstar in country music, he decides he's gonna be emo and wear a wig.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I remember.

• 30:00Joe Rogan?

  And change his name and let everybody know he's doing it.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Hmm, it's just, uh...

• 30:03Joe Rogan?

  At least Stephen King, when he wrote his like, Richard Bachman...

• 30:06Speaker 02

  The Bachman books?

• 30:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, at least he just, just said, "Listen, I'm writing too many books for people to buy. I'm gonna write them under a different name." That's how crazy he was. That's what cocaine will do to ya.

• 30:17Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, uh, yes, it will.

• 30:20Joe Rogan?

  Those are the good days.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  Um, so I sent this to whatever. I was looking up, so have you ever heard when, um, Nicki Minaj would talk about there's a...

• 30:29Joe Rogan?

  He's just fucking fixated on Nicki Minaj.

• 30:31Speaker 02

  No, the, because of the alter ego thing.

• 30:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's got an alter ego?

• 30:35Speaker 02

  Let me erase my skeleton. Um, yeah, his name Roman. Roman is a crazy boy who lives inside me, who says the things she doesn't wanna say. He threatens the peop- people and he's violent. I ask him to leave, but he can't.

• 30:46Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 30:47Speaker 02

  Um, she also notes he was born just a few months ago and born out of rage. This is like in 2010. His last name is Zolansky.

• 30:55Joe Rogan?

  Roman Zolansky? An angry, outspoken, often homosexual, British character who delivers raw, aggressive verses featured heavily in Pink Friday, Roman Reloaded.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  Right, then the Harajuku Barbie, which is the doll thing?

• 31:10Joe Rogan?

  Hold up. So these are her alter egos?

• 31:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, but don't worry, they didn't do MK Monarch shit.

• 31:15Joe Rogan?

  Go, go up to the top again. This is Nicki Minaj. Okay.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:19Joe Rogan?

  Famously uses several alter, alter egos, with her most prominent being Roman Zolansky, a fiery, aggressive persona used for intense rap verses, and Harajuku Barbie, her softer, pop-oriented side, but others include Martha Zolansky, Roman's mother, Zolin- Zolansky, uh, Chun-Li, Nick Lewinsky, and Cookie, each serving a different voice or purpose, from therapy to explosive lyrical delivery. Huh.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  I mean, uh.

• 31:54Joe Rogan?

  Is she just fucking around though? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's like how she writes.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, most, you know how black people normally take the alter ego of a series of like

• 32:01Joe Rogan?

  I think she lives that way.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  Polish Lithuanian Jewish names.

• 32:03Joe Rogan?

  What are you talking about?

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Was she like Whoopi Goldberg?

• 32:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 32:07Speaker 02

  Roman Zelansky and his mother live in there. Boy, that must be great in there.

• 32:11Joe Rogan?

  Must be a party.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  Zolansky. That's weird as shit.

• 32:15Joe Rogan?

  It is weird.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  Oh, the one it says it was to help her cope with her traumatic childhood, the one personality.

• 32:19Joe Rogan?

  Which one?

• 32:20Speaker 02

  I don't know, it was on the thing.

• 32:21Joe Rogan?

  The gay guy?

• 32:23Speaker 02

  No, but there's more than that even. I, I, I, cause I Grok, you know how Grok lies, you gotta go Grok? Did you look it up? And like, no, I didn't. Can you go and do that, Grok?

• 32:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I got, um, perplexity to admit something that I did, that it didn't want to admit initially. I got, I, I, I cited other sources and I said, is this true? It was about the, the, um, temple of Tenochtitlan.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:48Joe Rogan?

  So when they, uh, there's, it's attributed to the Aztecs. But if you ask the Aztecs, they said they found it.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  Olmec then? Is that what that means?

• 32:57Joe Rogan?

  No, it's not even, they don't even know. I think there's a term that they use for it.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  But it was there when they got there, they said. I know that. I've heard of that, yeah.

• 33:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a term that they, the way they describe it as, um, it's very interesting because it's, it's, they describe it as like the city of the gods or something like that, or the, the land where the gods, oh, place where gods were born.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  Mm.

• 33:18Joe Rogan?

  So here's the crazy thing. Um, and I, I had heard this before, but I wanted to make sure it was true. There's a, a Spanish guy named Diego Duran, who is a chronicler, who said that they killed eighty thousand people over a four day ceremony.

• 33:35Speaker 02

  And there's, they're, they say, really? It's probably like twenty thousand.

• 33:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's an exaggeration. So.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  Wow, twenty thousand. That must have helped the smell.

• 33:44Joe Rogan?

  And they just cut their hearts out to to celebrate the fact that the temple was completed.

• 33:50Speaker 02

  Hey, um.

• 33:51Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit, man. So but I didn't want to admit at first that they didn't build it. And then I had to like cite these sources where they say that they didn't build it. They said they found it. And so then they wanted to make sure that they're attributing it to earlier people of the same nationality. It was, you know what I'm saying? It got a little, it got a little weird and I realized, well, that's because it's drawing from all these sources that are online. So it's drawing from all these academic works, all these books, all these documentaries. Sometimes it'll do that. Some AI will do that. I don't know.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Remember when Sunny Hostin quoted Seymour de Buz?

• 34:29Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  Sunny Hostin quote, I think it's like, I think it's Seymour de Buz or some shit like that.

• 34:34Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that a porn star? Seymour Buz?

• 34:35Speaker 02

  No, de Buz. And it was when Biden did all those pardons on his way out. She goes, well, Seymour, he pardoned his nephew, see, or his brother-in-law, Seymour de Buz, and the chat GPT had just made that up. So people were like.

• 34:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's hilarious.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, but she was a judge.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  Presided over child trafficking cases. Does that fill you with hope?

• 34:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  I'll bet that was good to have her in charge of something like that.

• 34:59Joe Rogan?

  Probably tired from a long day of hard work at The View and Chat GPT lied to her.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Look.

• 35:04Joe Rogan?

  Cut her some slack.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  The point is, this is why Jesus won't be in AI, because Jesus isn't a fucking liar that you gotta tell to go back and look stuff up.

• 35:11Joe Rogan?

  Eventually he'll get it right.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  Also, Jesus wouldn't be made by a tech freak with a weird dick.

• 35:16Joe Rogan?

  I think the AI is gonna make Jesus. I don't think it's Jesus now.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  I think it's going to make, okay, if an AI makes Jesus, by the way, and this is just in lore.

• 35:24Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:24Speaker 02

  Again, I'm not Christian. I'm, I'm.

• 35:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, in lore.

• 35:27Speaker 02

  You know my religion, Christ Penelope, which I disclosed to you.

• 35:30Joe Rogan?

  I thought you were Scientologist.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  No, I'm a follower of Christ Penelope, the guy that farts in your nostrils to get the thing out. Remember I told you? I notified you. I think it should be Penelope Christ, but whatever. Anyway, uh, I'm sorry, I was thinking about Christ Penelope.

• 35:47Joe Rogan?

  You forgot what we're talking about?

• 35:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I might need a healing from Penelope Christ.

• 35:51Joe Rogan?

  Um, what were we talking about?

• 35:53Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, so that would be automatically, that would be an Antichrist.

• 35:57Joe Rogan?

  This is the guy that farts, farts in your face. He literally sits on your nose and farts.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  The true, it has to go in the nostrils, and he's very specific about that. Yeah.

• 36:06Joe Rogan?

  You gotta trust him, man.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  Look at the Messiah.

• 36:09Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if that really was the way, and the only thing that's holding you back is it looks so silly. But if that was like, I mean, there's weird things that people can and can't do, weird things animals can do. You know, animals can, they could shoot poison, skunks shoot smell at people. Imagine if your farts contained, just there was something about the bio, like the biome of your own farts, that it gets into someone's nostrils and activates your DMT.

• 36:36Speaker 02

  Well, I don't have to imagine because that's a real thing. His name is Penelope Christ. It's one of the most amazing, is that him?

• 36:45Joe Rogan?

  It is, Larry. Do we hear what he says?

• 36:46Speaker 00

  No, I don't even know what he said. No, we don't even have to.

• 36:48Joe Rogan?

  Who is saved? Christ Penelope?

• 36:50Speaker 02

  Sevenfold holy ministries.

• 36:52Joe Rogan?

  I like what he's doing. He drinks that, that cranapple juice to get his farts tangy.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  Is that what that is? That's the secret?

• 36:58Joe Rogan?

  It's good for the farts. Yeah, it gives a little tang.

• 37:02Speaker 00

  Look, the bank.

• 37:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he puts his bank up there.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  Oh, nice. Oh, so I can't pay him through any of the normal services?

• 37:09Joe Rogan?

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• 39:16Speaker 02

  How much money?

• 39:16Joe Rogan?

  He got a fee? If he had a fee, I mean, let's say he's got a fee.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna pay him more than 500 bucks.

• 39:22Joe Rogan?

  No, but I mean to get him here. I'm sure he needs a travel fee as well.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  Oh, Christ Peter?

• 39:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he needs a travel fee, that guy.

• 39:28Speaker 02

  My guess is he will quote you something high, and when you say no, it will drop significantly.

• 39:32Joe Rogan?

  Okay, will you negotiate for me?

• 39:34Speaker 02

  If you're...

• 39:34Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  Now...

• 39:35Joe Rogan?

  Now, but you have to be honest about what that fart does for you.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  Well...

• 39:39Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna fart in your nose, and we have to know.

• 39:42Speaker 02

  I collect fart jars, so... I'm a...

• 39:45Joe Rogan?

  I'm Etsy?

• 39:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, celebrity fart jars. I got an original... Yeah, I got an original Scar Joe from the set of that Bill Murray movie.

• 39:56Joe Rogan?

  There are girls out there that still fart in jars, right? Don't they?

• 39:59Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, but I...

• 40:00Joe Rogan?

  That is... That used to be a thing.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  That's the common mark. I only get the finest celebrity fart.

• 40:05Joe Rogan?

  Celebrity fart jars.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got one of, uh, I got a couple of good ones.

• 40:10Joe Rogan?

  I was on a plane once and I was flying to Europe and it was a long flight overnight and was one of those lie down flights. And, uh, Melanie Griffith was on the plane.

• 40:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:19Joe Rogan?

  And there was this big fat guy that was right alongside Melanie Griffith. So Melanie Griffith was lying down sleeping and the way these seats line up, they stagger.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 40:29Joe Rogan?

  So her ass was right by, or hi- his ass was right by her face.

• 40:34Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 40:34Joe Rogan?

  And this guy unloads.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  He healed her.

• 40:37Joe Rogan?

  He unloaded. And I'm like, when in life does a man get to fart one foot away from Melanie Griffith's face? Like that, where you literally have her right here, here's the ass, there's just an aisle way, maybe two feet, two foot aisle way. Pretty, pretty narrow. And then he just opened up, just opened up. I was writing and I, so I was awake. And I was like, oh, good lord. And as soon as there's a fart on a plane, you always blame the fat guy.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:06Joe Rogan?

  Always. Especially when it's so convenient that his ass is right near her, her face.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  That's, yes. I wouldn't take responsibility for it. I had an ex-girlfriend one time, years ago. We were at the supermarket. We're ringing up and there was some kid, you know, some little kid, right? This kid was standing directly behind her, right? And, um, I just look over and she's like, just ga- so she would pretend she didn't fart ever, but then I knew she did.

• 41:28Joe Rogan?

  Fart on the kid?

• 41:29Speaker 02

  She, I guess she couldn't hold, but there was a kid sitting there like this, you know, lollipop and I just saw her like, like holding it a laugh. I'm like, you monster. Did you?

• 41:37Joe Rogan?

  Farted on his lollipop?

• 41:39Speaker 02

  I go, she, why do you like it?

• 41:42Speaker 02

  She couldn't hold it.

• 41:43Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes you can't.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  You ever have not hold it?

• 41:45Joe Rogan?

  You ever have shit in your pants and you think you're just gonna not hold it?

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:51Joe Rogan?

  If you have that when you're out, that's not nice. And then you get in a hot car and you gotta sit there.

• 41:56Speaker 02

  I was trying to pee and hold one in. My girlfriend's in the sink and I just farted and I, I went, no!

• 42:04Speaker 02

  And she goes, did you just yell? She's, you just fart and yell no? I'm like, cause I didn't want it.

• 42:12Joe Rogan?

  What's that guy doing?

• 42:14Speaker 00

  So this is a different preacher.

• 42:16Joe Rogan?

  He's head banging. What's he doing?

• 42:17Speaker 00

  At the same church.

• 42:19Joe Rogan?

  Why's that guy dancing like that?

• 42:20Speaker 00

  He's been, he just.

• 42:21Joe Rogan?

  You got healed?

• 42:22Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 42:23Joe Rogan?

  Imagine how annoying it must be when you know people are acting. You know, when you go to church and just, people just put on their, "I just got healed," acting, flop around.

• 42:32Speaker 02

  Well, if, if you're going to a church that where you're getting into that, rolling around the ground and shit, you, everybody's gonna feel like they got healed because you're doing a group, uh, hypnosis ritual.

• 42:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're doing, like, group mania. Like, look at this guy. He's throwing people to the ground, running through crowds.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  It's pretty entertaining, though. Be fun.

• 42:50Joe Rogan?

  But he's just getting a lot of attention, right? Maybe he believes it. Maybe it's real. Maybe it's real and we're being skeptical.

• 42:56Speaker 02

  Because, yo, so Byrne, Steve Byrne was there this weekend.

• 42:59Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 42:59Speaker 02

  You know Steve Byrne?

• 43:00Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 43:00Speaker 02

  Steve Byrne was at the mothership.

• 43:02Joe Rogan?

  Steve Byrne, okay. You were, I didn't get, I wasn't wrong there, right?

• 43:05Speaker 00

  I thought you were gonna say he was at this.

• 43:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, Steve Byrne was getting healed.

• 43:08Joe Rogan?

  Steve Byrne, okay.

• 43:09Speaker 02

  He was healed recently by Christ.

• 43:11Joe Rogan?

  I, I couldn't understand the name you were saying. You were, you were so intent on getting to your point.

• 43:17Speaker 02

  Uh, because I forget if I don't get to it fast.

• 43:18Joe Rogan?

  I get it.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  I'm just gonna forget it.

• 43:21Joe Rogan?

  Steve Byrne was at the mothership.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  So, I'm sitting in the green room and I, and I look up, he's like, uh, some biddy does at the, uh, he, by the way, as long as I've known him, he was always a very charismatic guy. Chicks always liked him, always. And I asked him, I go, "You, did you take a hypnosis class at all?" "No." He naturally does it. But I, I look up at the screen and he does his sausage party bit, and it's not any kind of hypnosis thing, but when I looked up, it's like a lady sitting in a chair and ten guys and music and lights. And I, I'm like, "Oh, well, guy's gonna start acting like a chicken or something," you know, that's what it looked like. But I think he just does it unconsciously without even realizing what he's doing. Some people just got the voice, you know?

• 43:57Joe Rogan?

  Right. Well, I think, don't you think comedy is kind of a, kind of a hypnosis?

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:02Joe Rogan?

  When you're in the zone, right? Or when you're in the audience, like.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  If I'm in the zone, I, I did it to myself and, you know.

• 44:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  And then I, like, became the room. So there's nowhere to, like, you can't really, I, I wouldn't worry about somebody heckling or something because I'm the room. What are you gonna do? You know what I mean? Like.

• 44:19Joe Rogan?

  Don't you think you get it when you watch someone too? Like, if you watch someone great like a tell, if you're watching a tell and he's killing, you're locked into his brain.

• 44:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's domain projection.

• 44:29Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 44:29Speaker 02

  It's domain projection.

• 44:31Joe Rogan?

  Domain projec- what is domain projection exactly?

• 44:34Speaker 02

  So like all that stupid occult shit that, you know-

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  Put that into perplexity, Jamie.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:38Joe Rogan?

  What is domain projection?

• 44:40Speaker 02

  It's just some occult shit.

• 44:41Joe Rogan?

  It's occult?

• 44:42Speaker 02

  Well, NLP. You know what NLP is?

• 44:44Joe Rogan?

  Neuro-linguistic programming.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  If you look on Wikipedia, it says it's a pseudoscience.

• 44:48Joe Rogan?

  Is it?

• 44:49Speaker 02

  Well, no. If it is, why is everybody use it non-stop all the time? If it doesn't work. Why would they be using it on me all day long and every time I turn on something and I go- and I hear some fucking catchphrase that I hate?

• 45:00Joe Rogan?

  Do you think it's called neurol- pseudoscience because they want to discredit it?

• 45:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, this isn't what we were looking for, for an answer.

• 45:07Joe Rogan?

  Domain projection usually means mapping data or functions from one domain. Um, so use it as a- put in, what is domain projection as an MKUltra?

• 45:17Speaker 02

  Well, I'm not saying that's some phrase from it. I'm just saying what the nuts and bolts of it is.

• 45:21Joe Rogan?

  I want to know what happens when you say that. What to-

• 45:25Speaker 02

  Put it in Ford-

• 45:28Joe Rogan?

  A mind control tool used by MKUltra.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's not what that-

• 45:34Joe Rogan?

  Let's see what it says.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  Trauma is the one for that.

• 45:36Joe Rogan?

  We might find something.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  Oh, God, they did do it?

• 45:39Joe Rogan?

  Domain projection is not a documented MKUltra term. Okay.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  So-

• 45:46Joe Rogan?

  Domain projection appears in technicals, fields, software engineering. Uh, searches of MKUltra.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:53Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so it doesn't say anything about m- domain projection as a form of mind control?

• 45:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wouldn't say- well, it's- It's just if you got a show and you're controlling- it's crowd control in a way.

• 46:03Joe Rogan?

  Right, but it look- it does, okay.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  So how do I dress up for how I want to control you? That's how people got- think when they do whatever, like a pick-up artist or a con man or maybe a magician.

• 46:14Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  That's what- like a close-up magic or something. They gotta- They gotta put- bring you into their reality with whatever they're doing.

• 46:21Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  So, whatever gets people there. Or you'll hear about gurus where- there's that guy, that weird cult that's like deep inside Google from that weird gay guy and- people come in the room and his light would be gold around him and I- Yeah, you never heard of this?

• 46:36Joe Rogan?

  This is what Kurt does. He tells you about something crazy and he goes, "You never heard of that? You don't know?"

• 46:41Speaker 02

  Oh, you got me with the good one with that guy from the Sentinel Island. I didn't know they'd had a vid- Is that why they're not that cool a guest?

• 46:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Maurice Vidal Portman.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  So you tell me another explorer-

• 46:51Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  Yet another explorer found a land of kids where they could do weird shit with kids.

• 46:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, not just kids, guys. He would dress guys up like Roman soldiers and he would measure their testicles. Like, he's like-

• 47:02Speaker 02

  Well, that's just science, Joe.

• 47:03Joe Rogan?

  Like, one of his quotes was like, describing one of them, they had testicles the size of a sparrow's egg. It's like, the way he's talking about it, I was like, this-

• 47:10Speaker 02

  You put your glasses on.

• 47:11Joe Rogan?

  Lovingly eccentric homosexual fascination with these islanders. So, he gave a bunch of them diseases. They all, and a few people died. He kidnapped these kids. I think he kidnapped a kid and their parents or their grandparents, and the grandparents got sick because they were all, they all had cooties. And so, they wind up dying, and so then anytime someone showed up, there's only thirty-nine of these fucking people on this island. So they have this story in their, their spoken word tradition. They don't even have a written history. So the story of white people show up, start measuring your dicks, and everybody dies. That's their story. So anytime someone pulls up with a bible, this is the reason why they want to kill them. That's why you can't show up on that island.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  It sounds like an alien abduction story.

• 47:57Joe Rogan?

  It's just like that. It's the same thing.

• 47:58Speaker 02

  Their ET is a much darker take.

• 48:00Joe Rogan?

  It's the same thing. It's from an alien civilization. You show up in these wooden boats to people that were stranded on the island for sixty thousand years.

• 48:09Speaker 02

  Imagine like, that's why, I understand Peter the Dolphin, I always say, take it in, because imagine you, you never, you just have flippers, you never knew what you were missing, and then a beautiful alien just jerks you off every day and then stops.

• 48:22Joe Rogan?

  Imagine someone puts you in a fucking cage for no reason and keeps you there your whole life, and you're horny all the time, and you don't even have hands. So what are you gonna do?

• 48:31Speaker 02

  You wanna hope for a coed.

• 48:32Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna echolocate some knees.

• 48:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  To use her knees.

• 48:36Joe Rogan?

  You don't even have a female dolphin in there? That's crazy. It's like, they didn't do anything. We, one day, we're gonna realize how smart dolphins are, and we're gonna feel real bad.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Well, and we don't feel bad about all the people we blow up, so I'm doubt that dolphin.

• 48:50Joe Rogan?

  I do.

• 48:50Speaker 02

  Awakening will.

• 48:52Joe Rogan?

  Some people do. Some people feel bad about the people that the United States blows up.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Well, we only have school. I always like to bring up public school, kindergarten, because seventy percent of guys didn't wanna pull the trigger in battle, and that had to be fixed with the Prussian system, which is why it's called kindergarten, the Austrian, you know, Prussian word. To get you away from mommy at age five instead of age six.

• 49:12Joe Rogan?

  And they could teach you about war.

• 49:14Speaker 02

  Well, they could just, the state can get a foothold.

• 49:16Joe Rogan?

  Teach you about everything, yeah. They can design the way.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  Industry.

• 49:20Joe Rogan?

  Right. Well, that's, I mean, indoctrination of children is a real thing. That's why when people scoff at it being used for like, trans indoctrination, like, why would anybody do that? Like, stop.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  To neuter your kids.

• 49:32Joe Rogan?

  They, they do that to try to get you on an android phone, okay? People try to indoctrinate you with everything. Everything that's ever existed, people try to get you to do.

• 49:40Speaker 02

  Well, that's where, why sigils and brands are so important.

• 49:43Joe Rogan?

  Yes, absolutely. They try to get you to wear what they're wearing, they try to get you to do what they're doing.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  Well, you also, it helps if you have a few gatekeepers, like in art, I can't remember the guy's name, but there's like, one guy who, and the reason he's like, the guy, is because the investments he picks pay off, I guess, in the art world. He's some famous, like, where he's like, been around forever, and I'm sure he's some kinda hack and whatever, but why are these people installed there? We already know that Rothko and all the modern art, mo- the American abstract modern art was launched by the CIA through a cutout.

• 50:14Joe Rogan?

  That's right.

• 50:15Speaker 02

  It's public record. So you think they stopped at that? You don't think they got involved in all the arts?

• 50:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, they definitely got involved in that because the Soviet art was so valuable. Soviet art was more skillful, and they tried to prop up American, like Jackson Pollock, that's one of them, that they connect to being, which when you look at the Jackson Pollock artwork that's worth fucking millions of dollars,

• 50:38Joe Rogan?

  no disrespect to anybody who's a fan, but shut the fuck up. Like, just shut up. Just shut the fuck up. It's splatter. And the idea that all this one guy knew how to splatter better than anybody splattered. I mean, there's nothing wrong with splattering paint.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  It's from fractals, no one could ever recreate.

• 50:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 50:57Joe Rogan?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 50:58Speaker 02

  Uh, some, uh, there's modern art things I'll look at and I can, I'll be like, oh, I like it or I don't like it. But the thing, uh, the thing with it is, it, it's not that, there's no, I'm not saying there's no art to it. It's just why does one thing become a thing and one doesn't?

• 51:11Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen some of them? For sure. Cause there's some, it's all about the names, who's, who's got the work, who's, what, whether that work is valued very high. What is that guy in Manhattan? We showed a photo of this painting that he had, it's worth like a hundred million dollars. It's fucking insane. It looks like nothing.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Well, usually De Kooning's the one everybody trashes the most because he has a factory of people making it.

• 51:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I don't know if that's that one. This, this guy had a large painting by this guy and it was insanely valuable. I don't remember the real, it might not have been, it might've been 50 million, whatever it was. But it's just, you're looking at it, you're like, what the fuck are you even talking about? How is that worth anything? I mean, maybe it's worth something. I'd give you a couple hundred for it.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  Who is it?

• 51:52Joe Rogan?

  What's that one?

• 51:52Speaker 00

  I just pulled something up that's just.

• 51:54Joe Rogan?

  Record auction price for Barnett Newman, uh, for real? Is that real? Two blue squares? That's real? So much go to jail.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  Do the guys come with it?

• 52:02Joe Rogan?

  Forty-three point eight million for two blue squares. See, this is just proof that just because you're rich, doesn't mean you're smart. Just because you've figured out how to throw your entire life at acquiring numbers, it doesn't mean you're even remotely intelligent.

• 52:17Speaker 02

  Well, it depends what value you have stored in that, I guess.

• 52:19Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't have to depend. That one's great though. That's only a hundred and sixty-five million. That's a bargain. Look at that. Look at that fucking painting. She paid a hundred and sixty-eight million.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  I kinda do like that painting.

• 52:33Joe Rogan?

  That lady is involved in.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  That's what art is at the end of the day, is a money laundering.

• 52:36Joe Rogan?

  Completely insane. That is completely insane that that's a hundred and sixty-five billion dollars. That is completely utterly totally insane. There's no, there's no way you could look at that and go, I get it.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Dude, NFTs they were selling right and left for a while.

• 52:51Joe Rogan?

  They're worth a dollar now.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  No, I know, but that's still, you still, because there's some kind of item there. You could still store your value in it.

• 52:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, that probably, she, when she gave it away, well, it's probably an awesome tax write-off. So if you have a hundred and sixty-five million bucks, like if you, if you got that kind of money, she's probably worth billions.

• 53:09Speaker 02

  Baseball cards for the ultra wealthy is how I look at it, or Pokemon cards for old, rich people. It's, that's what they are. They're like baseball cards.

• 53:16Joe Rogan?

  I looked up all the wealthiest people in the world, uh, last night. I looked up, uh, the wealthiest women in the world. It's all inheritance. The top ones are, it's all like these families.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Well, they're not gonna tell you who's a trillionaire, right? They're gonna pretend we don't have those?

• 53:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, they don't have to be public. See, that's the thing. Those are oligarchs, right? Right, those are, yeah, those are people that are, that are a part of these royal families that are getting that oil money. They don't have to tell you jack shit. They probably mock Elon Musk's wealth.

• 53:45Speaker 02

  Of course. Well, I, every time somebody goes, he's the richest man in the world, I go, do you think you get to know who that is? You think you're, they're gonna tell you in Forbes? The richest man in the world's like, tell everyone, that's me.

• 53:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, other countries do not have to disclose because they're not paying taxes to anyone. They literally own the country. Like, these royal families own the country.

• 54:03Speaker 02

  The whole country's my house, motherfucker.

• 54:04Joe Rogan?

  Just think of the amount of money that's missing in this country. Just in fraud, right? There's trillions of dollars.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  Every ten years, you get two trillion they can't account for.

• 54:14Joe Rogan?

  There's always trillions of dollars in fraud. There's trillion dollars in waste, just that. Now imagine if you own the whole country. How much money do you have? There's no way you don't have trillions.

• 54:25Speaker 02

  And you have it stored all over, and then?

• 54:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, everywhere, all over the world. You're buying real estate in Manhattan. You're buying like those crazy sky rises that are all three-quarters empty.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  Um, my buddy, Eric Hekker, the guy, he was in Antarctica, was, the guy worked at the Raytheon.

• 54:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you know that guy?

• 54:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:42Joe Rogan?

  Okay, I saw that guy on Sean Ryan's show, and I was like, wait, what is going on?

• 54:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:48Joe Rogan?

  He's, it's a neutrino detector that's also a direct energy weapon that can make earthquakes.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  I was already aware of Ice Cube Neutrino Detector, because I just like looking up science shit, and, uh, you know, neutrinos are wacky. So when I first heard of it, they had built this detector in Antarctica. They didn't mention it's Raytheon, but that's who built it.

• 55:05Joe Rogan?

  No, neutrinos are passing through us all the time.

• 55:07Speaker 02

  Almost massless particles, and the thing is, they all come from space, but for some reason, anomalously, neutrinos seem to be coming out of the earth at that part in Antarctica was the big. Mainstream science mystery of that the neutrino detector is gonna find, but uh. Anyway, he started saying you could use neutrinos for all kinds of shit like uh FTL communications if you had to.

• 55:27Joe Rogan?

  What is FTL?

• 55:28Speaker 02

  Faster than light communications. Through entanglement, you could do that with neutrinos.

• 55:33Joe Rogan?

  You could send information through neutrinos?

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Apparently, I now, look, I'm a dolphin expert, not a neutrino expert, so I wanna make that clear. I get a couple claws in me, I talk dolphins. But uh, he had no, he had no seeing in alien stories or something.

• 55:49Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Um, also, uh, he has like, he could explain it scientifically to you, but. I already think it's a weapon, cuz I already know what HARP is, all the things they told you are not that is a fucking lie, I mean, it's just a lie. There's a treaty to not use weather weapons from seventy-five, why? Because they had those, you don't make a treaty unless you have those weapons. There's no nuclear treaty before nukes, right?

• 56:10Joe Rogan?

  Right, yeah, good point.

• 56:12Speaker 02

  We used it in Nam, Iran accused uh W of using weather weapons on them.

• 56:17Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 56:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, on my dinner jacket, remember that guy? The guy who wore that.

• 56:23Joe Rogan?

  He accused them of using weather weapons?

• 56:25Speaker 02

  They had a drought, and so, anyway, with E L F waves.

• 56:28Joe Rogan?

  Them of starting the drought.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not, see, control's maybe a misnomer, it's like uh. How you, people talk about a controlled burn, like in, and I asked my uh, my girl's brother's a fireman, outdoor fireman. He goes, we don't call it a controlled burn, cuz we really only control it at the point where we set it.

• 56:47Joe Rogan?

  I go, what?

• 56:48Speaker 02

  Cuz we call it a prescribed burn. That's the new, so, they can prescribe weather, let's put it that way, you could stimulate a thing.

• 56:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  And get certain effects, and it's all like E L F waves and shit.

• 57:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, didn't Dubai just have another fucking flood?

• 57:03Speaker 02

  And they bought, and from over geoengineering, and they banned people from taking video of it at the time, it was a big embarrassment.

• 57:08Joe Rogan?

  They just had another one, because um, a recent one.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  Oh, well, I, I don't know if that's uh.

• 57:15Joe Rogan?

  Cuz uh, I, I heard some people talking about it, or I saw some people talking about it.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  Extra, what do you call, E L F waves, you, you could do all kinds of stuff with those waves, man.

• 57:22Joe Rogan?

  Right, but cloud seeding is one hundred percent real. And they cloud seed in the United Arab Emirates, I believe, I believe they do that every week. I think uh, they make it rain there every week, in more ways than one, you know what I'm saying? But uh. But they make it actually rain there. They actually make it rain there once a week.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Remember the kid with the mullet they blamed the Mystic Camp drowning here in Texas when the flood happened?

• 57:43Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 57:44Speaker 02

  It wasn't that kid. He got set out. He got hung out to dry like it was on him. But no, nothing he did. And Jesse Michaels is right. He was right. He told me and he was dead right. Whatever caused that was something so much more sinister and that kid was like, he's an easy guy to, you know.

• 57:58Joe Rogan?

  So what do you think that that was manmade weather that caused that storm?

• 58:01Speaker 02

  I, dude, I can't remember the guy's name. We had, at the time on Jimmy's show, the dude came on and explained exactly what it was and the loophole that let them. Cause there's a treaty to not, so I assume they just violate it. But no, there's actually a loophole to test this shit out here. It's so fucked, dude. It's so fucked. And, and you already noticed.

• 58:19Joe Rogan?

  What evidence does this guy have that they created that storm? Cause I thought they'd been tracking that storm. I thought this is like a convergence.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  He said they created it, but.

• 58:27Joe Rogan?

  I thought it was, but hold on. I thought it was a convergence of two storms. That was very rare and it caused this flash flood.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  I don't remember his details. I just know I, I, I feel at this point, especially after that Epstein shit, that they should have to prove they're not guilty.

• 58:43Joe Rogan?

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• 59:24Joe Rogan?

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• 1:00:06Speaker 02

  But the climate change shit is not real. That's been a lie the whole time.

• 1:00:08Joe Rogan?

  A study published in World Weather Attribution Group found the global warming caused by fossil fuel emissions most likely exacerbated the intense rains that lashed the UAE and Oman last year. But this isn't last year.

• 1:00:24Speaker 00

  No, this is from the recent thing you just asked about from two weeks ago.

• 1:00:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. So two weeks ago, there was a flood, right?

• 1:00:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, it wasn't as bad as one before, but there was.

• 1:00:33Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so this was two weeks ago? Is that the two weeks ago one?

• 1:00:36Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:00:36Joe Rogan?

  It's still fucking bad.

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  Bill Gates has already walked away from climate change. You saw that, right?

• 1:00:39Joe Rogan?

  I did. Hilarious.

• 1:00:41Speaker 02

  So they've been lying to you for how long about that bullshit?

• 1:00:43Joe Rogan?

  Okay, here it is. The downpour worsened by a lack of storm drains hobbled Dubai Airport, the world's busiest hub for international passengers. So they're saying it's climate change that's causing it to rain more?

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  There's my proof that it's not that.

• 1:00:56Joe Rogan?

  But here's the, yeah, here's the thing. They absolutely do cloud seed.

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:02Joe Rogan?

  So why don't you, uh, search that? Put that into perplexity.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Geoengineering is the term you want to find.

• 1:01:09Joe Rogan?

  Put it into perplexity, does, uh, the United Arab Emirates, uh, cloud seed to make artificial rain, or it's not artificial, it's real rain. It's just their forced rain? What's the word? Whatever. Search that. You'll find it, Jamie. Um, they absolutely do do that.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:31Joe Rogan?

  Cloud seeding is widely used in the UAE to enhance natural rainfall, but it only works when suitable clouds already exist and typically increases rain by perhaps 10 to 30%. Not by creating storms from nothing. The UAE runs one of the world's most active research-driven rain enhancement programs using aircraft, ground generators, and experimental methods like drones and electric charging to boost water security. So they're just doing it a bunch of different ways over there. So blaming it on climate change when they are 100% making it rain there all the time is. Bananas.

• 1:02:09Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:09Joe Rogan?

  It's bananas. Like, you don't even know what the fucking weather would be like if they didn't do it if they're doing it all the time. If they're doing it all the time, you literally don't have a control group.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  Do you remember Chemtrails? The thing that was a stupid people thought was a real thing, but it was a conspiracy? Well, it turns out that that was real and it's called geoengineering. They did the thing they always do, a change in the name of the thing to not admit it.

• 1:02:32Joe Rogan?

  True, but. A lot of the trails that you see in the sky that look like artificial clouds are just created because of condensation in the atmosphere, the moisture in the atmosphere hitting the hot jet engine in incredibly cold climate. It literally creates clouds.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  But it should be all of them. There shouldn't even be 20% of the time you're spraying shit. We already know.

• 1:02:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, I don't think it's that many. I think, but they definitely do spray shit. That's the problem. The problem is when everybody thinks that every fucking Southwest airline is spraying things to keep everybody docile. What you're miss- that's, that's, the problem is that's easily disprovable. And what you do is you open the door for, that allows them to do the real shit. So what you gotta recognize is what a regular plane is.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  Wait, how do you open the door?

• 1:03:16Joe Rogan?

  Because if you think that every fucking American Airlines flight overhead that's making artificial clouds is doing it because they're spraying things on you, you, you, that's easily disproven. And then that, but hold on, but hold on. That makes all the other stuff seem silly too.

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:03:32Joe Rogan?

  Because I think they probably are spraying some things with some planes. And there's, there's real data that shows that they've tried that and practiced that.

• 1:03:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, they, they, here's my favorite one. I told you the stratospheric atmosphere, was it? It's called Satan in England.

• 1:03:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that one. Search that one.

• 1:03:48Speaker 02

  The geoengineering England, because you know, to fight climate change, we're gonna.

• 1:03:52Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna call, we're gonna call it Satan. We're gonna dim the atmosphere.

• 1:03:56Speaker 02

  Too much sunlight gets to England.

• 1:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's really bad.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  That's where we're getting all that climate change from. England's too sunny.

• 1:04:01Joe Rogan?

  Lot of burns. Causes fires.

• 1:04:03Speaker 02

  These, these boar swamp people are gonna be fucking, and then, and then to call it Satan, are you just like?

• 1:04:11Joe Rogan?

  They're gonna make Mordor. It's gonna literally look like Mordor. It's gonna be black skies and, where does Sauron live?

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  It's gonna be like Highlander 2 where we learn not to do this.

• 1:04:20Joe Rogan?

  Where does Sauron live?

• 1:04:22Speaker 02

  Oh, Mordor.

• 1:04:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Mordor.

• 1:04:25Joe Rogan?

  Satan is the name of the tiny UK balloon experiment that released very small amount of sulfur dioxide. Literally Satan smells like sulfur. Sulfur dioxide in the stratosphere over England as a proof of proof of concept for solo geoengineering. Not a large scale ongoing weather modification program. It has nonetheless become a focus of online conspiracy claims.

• 1:04:46Speaker 02

  Oh, I wonder how.

• 1:04:46Joe Rogan?

  About UK geoengineering and weather control. How funny is that? It's become a focus of online conspiracy claims. About UK geoengineering. So them actually doing geoengineering has become a focus of online conspiracy claims.

• 1:05:04Speaker 02

  Why would it?

• 1:05:04Joe Rogan?

  About geoengineering.

• 1:05:05Speaker 02

  What a strange thing to put a balloon called Satan that sprays sulfur on. Is everybody like? I love how they gaslight these fucking things.

• 1:05:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  It's not a big deal. Nicki Minaj just has a great sense of showmanship.

• 1:05:18Joe Rogan?

  Satan was not a part of a major UK development program. It was led by a private researcher and later UK funding announcements for solo geoengineering. Research focused on some other small scale outdoor trials. Example, sea ice thickening, cloud brightening with formal oversight.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:39Joe Rogan?

  So what? So they're doing sea ice thickening?

• 1:05:42Speaker 02

  Okay, so let me translate. The stuff has already been developed militarily.

• 1:05:46Joe Rogan?

  These motherfuckers are trying to make an ice age. They're doing sea ice thickening.

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  You know the ice is coming back.

• 1:05:52Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:05:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's weird. I was told there was gonna be, oh, the coral reefs came back. There's more rainforest than there's ever been. Did you know that?

• 1:06:00Joe Rogan?

  We're in this procession of the equinoxes thing, right? What is the procession of the equinoxes? It's like every 20 something thousand years. The earth doesn't just spin, right? It spins with a wobble. And that wobble is called the procession of the equinoxes. That's how they, when they look at some of the ancient sites and, you know, like Egypt and different places where the sun, at the summer solstice would have come through this. And they use that to determine around the time period when it was built. It was, it's a theory at least. Because they know that the, the sky moves and that they had tracked this. The ancients had tracked this. The procession of the equinoxes, the wobble of space. But this is the thing. It means during the wobble is when the earth gets colder and warmer. And colder and warmer, depending on where you are in the wobble cycle.

• 1:06:46Joe Rogan?

  So the, the equator. Kind of stays the same, which is why there's all these ancient sites on the equator. The Mayans and the Aztecs and all these incredible civilizations. They existed in a place where it didn't fuck it up too much. Whereas everything else, it's like ice age, then it gets hot, ice age, then it gets hot.

• 1:07:01Speaker 02

  I thought we were in technically an ice age for the last however long. Because there normally historically weren't ice caps. So we're still technically in an ice age. As far as I know, if you look it up, that's what they'll tell you.

• 1:07:13Joe Rogan?

  I think that's true. I think that's true. I think it has gotten warmer and it has gotten colder. But I think technically we're in an ice age.

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  I'm still a little bitter about it because I used to get. I could think of like, I told you three or four things on the top of my head where I went to bed like, oh no.

• 1:07:28Joe Rogan?

  These fucking eggheads that are talking about spraying things in the sky freaks me out though. Because the scariest thing that could ever happen to us is an ice age. Cause you can't go anywhere warm. See, if it's, if it's, if it gets hot out, you move to the north. That's what people have done from the fucking beginning of time. We're like, we're here, we're staying here forever. No, if the ocean rises, you have to leave. And if people didn't ever exist, the oceans moved back and forth fucking thousands of miles. It's gonna move. You're gonna have earthquakes. You're gonna have things change and shift.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  You know how plotted by, by if Obama builds oceanfront property or not? That's, that's my guidance, all of them.

• 1:08:06Joe Rogan?

  They all buy oceanfront property.

• 1:08:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, and the insurance ever changed on it. So it's been bullshit the whole time. There's still people that are like, and they've invested everything in it.

• 1:08:14Joe Rogan?

  They've invested everything. They also have cats and they live alone.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 1:08:18Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of that. A lot of, a lot of people like taking care of the earth like it's their kids. Cause they don't have any kids.

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  Can I tell you a crackpot theory I have? And I know it's hard to believe as a respected dolphin scientist.

• 1:08:29Joe Rogan?

  I think that.

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  Oh, he had one. It looks like in the video of John C. Lilly.

• 1:08:34Joe Rogan?

  He had one skeleton glove?

• 1:08:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, like this.

• 1:08:37Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know. The, the goon tank told him to do it and he did it. The guy's a fucking nut. The guy was involved in bad shit. He wasn't good.

• 1:08:47Speaker 02

  Project Blue Beam you always hear about with the fake alien invasion they were planning on and, and uh, in the seventies.

• 1:08:53Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 1:08:54Speaker 02

  Which by the way was not supposed to be a fake alien invasion. It was supposed to be a fake religious event. That could be an alien invasion, but it wasn't necessarily that. Oh, okay. And, you know, even if they did or didn't do it, they, there's another project to get. I think that this whole bullshit of climate change and the thing of like, maybe you're the alien and you don't belong here on the earth, right? Right. I think that's a smarter play to do than Blue Beam is to get this Gaia cult started, where the earth's more important than you, the human living here, and you're probably not even from, you probably came from another planet here, from some kind of panspermia. And, uh, and then, and then when you hear any of these stupid alien stories, this is how I know they're a fake one from some dark entity, is they always tell you about how humans are so warlike.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  If humans don't change their ways, you know assholes, nobody wants to go to war. Seventy percent of people didn't want to even pull the trigger, that's why we have kindergarten. What are you, why aren't you going to our leaders and thumbing their assholes and telling them this shit? Why do you do it to some farmer? That's, that's the suspicion. Whenever I hear that fucking Gaia earth shit, Mm-hmm. I think that's what, what Blue Beam actually manifested as. Because it all comes, like in the nineties, and they're all connected to Epstein, all the greats. Uh, uh, what's his name, Leon Black, that fuck, you know who that is? No. Oh, he's an Epstein pal. All these assholes, I mean, you, you could find the shit pretty easy, but they all, uh, that's where this came from, where it's like, it's, uh, you're, you're a guest on this planet.

• 1:10:24Speaker 02

  And then they go, oh, humans are destroying everything. Like, we're not in charge of that motherfucker. I'm not putting Satan up in the sky to spray sulfur dioxide. I'm not starting wars for no fucking reason. Everybody voted for Trump to not have a war in Venezuela, I know that. Right. Nobody voted, so they're like, we got, no fentanyl, that's a lie. I mean, I don't know what idiot thinks fentanyl is coming from Venezuela, but only liars and morons think that. And if it, if I'm wrong, can we see the evidence? We saw the video of you murdering those people. I just gotta take your word for it? That oily-haired fuck Pete Hegseth with his weirdo Catholic Templar knight tattoos?

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  You got, he's got fucking Dan Brown cuckoo tattoos. They're not Nazi. They're fucking knights of fucking Saint, Saint Buttfuck whatever the fuck he's in.

• 1:11:11Joe Rogan?

  I saw that same symbol in a Catholic church.

• 1:11:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're old Crusader shit. And just so you know, Templars were not good guys. They were real fucked. They were, in fact, it's a real Diddy party.

• 1:11:22Joe Rogan?

  We're going on a raw, a long circuitous route. Wha- wha- what did you say initially before that?

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  Venezuela. Why, everybody's going to war.

• 1:11:28Joe Rogan?

  Here's the thing, one, one of the boats, uh, the remains of the boat just showed up. They just found it and it has marijuana in it.

• 1:11:35Speaker 02

  Oh, of that, you know what? I stand corrected then. Sorry, Joe.

• 1:11:38Joe Rogan?

  But no, I mean, same saying to prove to your point.

• 1:11:40Speaker 02

  They almost had marijuana.

• 1:11:42Joe Rogan?

  No, they say, it had, I'm, I think that's true. See if that's, that was something that was in the news today.

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  They're calling war crime, you know, we didn't, nobody declared wars. It was just a crime to do that. And if you had evidence, remember the, uh...

• 1:11:53Joe Rogan?

  What I'm getting to is it would be nice if they had one that showed that is even cocaine. Cause if they have one, and the only one they have is marijuana. Grim evidence of Trump's airstrike washes ashore on a Colombian peninsula. Uh, first came the scorched boat, then the mangled bodies, then the packets with traces of marijuana. Now the fishermen fear the ocean that feeds them.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, no shit. So, that's another bullshit.

• 1:12:17Joe Rogan?

  Okay, but this is, um...

• 1:12:20Joe Rogan?

  So this was just, they were just bringing in marijuana. So they were trying to smuggle in marijuana.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  To Colombia?

• 1:12:27Joe Rogan?

  No, wherever they were going. I don't know where they were going.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Venezuela is not where we're getting our drugs from, just so everybody knows that.

• 1:12:32Joe Rogan?

  But was this in Colombia, or was this in Venezuela?

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, they found it in Colombia. It washed up in Colombia.

• 1:12:37Joe Rogan?

  Right, but the boat was in Venezuela? Where was the boat headed to? The Gulf of Venezuela, which is right next to Colombia. So where are these boats supposedly going with this cocaine that were blowing them up?

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  Okay, they said fentanyl. Now they're saying cocaine.

• 1:12:52Joe Rogan?

  What, what, um, okay, say fentanyl. Where are the boats going where we're blowing them up?

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  Uh, that's above, uh, that's top secret, Joe. That's, uh...

• 1:12:59Joe Rogan?

  But you know what I'm saying? Like if there's, if they're supposed to be smuggling these drugs, where are they supposed to be smuggling them to? Campaign against boats that the Trump administration claims are smuggling drugs has shifted largely to the Pacific since November. The November 6th strike on the, how do you say that? Guajira? Guajira Peninsula?

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  Guajira, yeah, I don't know.

• 1:13:21Joe Rogan?

  Took place during an earlier phase when the campaign seemed to be aimed at Venezuelan rather than Colombian vessels. So this one was in Colombia at a Colombian vessel. So, but it turned out that it was marijuana. At least one of the packets that they found was marijuana, right?

• 1:13:40Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Oh, that's right. They want Nicholas. So Trump said you have to leave office or else. And then they started doing this. That's what's going on.

• 1:13:47Joe Rogan?

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• 1:16:34Speaker 02

  Why the fuck do I care about anything if it is? Oh, that's right, they have oil. Oh, that's right, oil. Oh, that's, oh, we, by the way, stole oil tankers. Uh, also, and this is where I can't support Maduro, and I'm sorry, Maduro, this is where you fucked up. He doesn't fucking support Israel, this son of a bitch. So.

• 1:16:52Joe Rogan?

  Did he say that publicly?

• 1:16:53Speaker 02

  Oh, yes. And he said the thing that Charlie said before he died. About ethnic cleansing, anyway. The, originally, remember Juan Guaido, who was, when Trump did his State of the Union and Nancy Pelosi tore his speech in half?

• 1:17:07Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:17:08Speaker 02

  Okay. Here's what she didn't, so that was, oh, what a statement. But when it came to Trump going, and now the rightful ruler of Venezuela, Juan Guaido, and this guy Juan Guaido, who is, by the way, is not the rightful ruler of Venezuela. Uh, all Democrats and Republicans all unified on how great Juan Guaido is. Okay, so, nothing comes of him.

• 1:17:28Joe Rogan?

  It's the oil deal.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, then, then about a, I don't want to say a year later or so, Aramate's hosting for Jimmy, and we play a clip of Juan Guaido in Venezuela. He moved back to Venezuela. Venezuela didn't put him in jail or nothing. And you see people in a restaurant throwing shit at him because they hate his fucking guts. But he's free to live there and not in prison. Because they're smart and know like not to do nothing with it. So now there's a new person, some chick-

• 1:17:53Joe Rogan?

  What was he accused of?

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  Well, he's, he claimed he was the real president and he was working with America to overthrow the guy they elected.

• 1:17:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:18:00Speaker 02

  You know-

• 1:18:01Joe Rogan?

  He claimed he was the real president.

• 1:18:02Speaker 02

  So they were claiming- And Pelosi agreed.

• 1:18:05Joe Rogan?

  A rigged election.

• 1:18:06Speaker 02

  They've been claiming Venezuela has fake elections, but I don't think they do. I think you're first of all driving them closer to Maduro if you don't like him. They don't like America and I don't know if you know, uh, I know people think we gave a lot of help around the world, but no, it turns out. We fucked everybody's country up and they don't like us for a very good reason. So when you tell somebody their president's an authoritarian.

• 1:18:30Speaker 02

  Get your booster.

• 1:18:33Speaker 02

  Fucking fuck you authoritarian. Those people get mad and, and when you meet people from Venezuela, which I for years, they would go fuck Chavez. No Chavez didn't take over in a coup. He's one of those guys I think attempted a coup and then went to jail and then got elected. I believe that's the story. But he got elected. He was in nationalized, you know, the first thing a terrible dictator does is nationalize their oil. And not let our, like, if you call Iran's crime. Because they had an elected, they had a democracy.

• 1:19:02Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 1:19:03Speaker 02

  The guy said, "We're gonna keep our fucking oil and not give it to England." And so got rid of him, put the Shah.

• 1:19:08Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  You know who installed the Ayatollah? That was the Jimmy Cortez, that was the Trilateral, so Rockefeller. The West installed the fucking Ayatollah as well. Okay, that's a, by the way, public right, you can go look that up. So now I'm supposed to be mad at these regimes that my own dipshit country with their dipshit post-World War II cunt allies, put these people here. I still want somebody to explain to me how the fuck the leader of ISIS can walk in the White House and shake Trump's hand. And they're still imbeciles and you know them, they're still Republican imbeciles who are gonna say ISIS is killing Christians in Nigeria, what about that? Well, can we ask our friend, the head of ISIS, to ask them to stop? You fucking jerk off.

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  When I tweet this, fuck, you know, and they're all sock puppets and whatever. They go, well, he won a war. That's how it works. Always have some, you know, Israeli flag. Explain to me, that's how winning a war. The guy from ISIS? Aren't they anti-Semitic? I thought ISIS? Well, they never attack Israel. Oh, they did once and then apologized. Did you know that?

• 1:20:11Joe Rogan?

  No, when?

• 1:20:12Speaker 02

  During the Syria conflict. Oh, and also, uh, the IDF would patch up ISIS soldiers in Syria. Did you know that? I found that out. John Jimmy Show. It's amazing the shit you find out and you realize no one knows a goddamn thing about anything. And then you, how easy it is, when you see the head of, a guy who, John Kiriakou also told me, very high chance, uh, was there in the Daniel Pearl beheading video.

• 1:20:37Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:20:38Speaker 02

  He's a founding member and fucking, uh, if you watch the video of Petraeus sucking his dick on stage, Petraeus goes, now, full disclosure, we were opposite sides during the surge. You know, the insurgent ISIS period?

• 1:20:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  That's who that guy is. And they're talking like they're old friends.

• 1:20:54Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  You know, nobody knows that? Yeah. His name has been changed. Just like, uh, BB fucking Bilbo not a Jew who.

• 1:21:00Joe Rogan?

  Look at him now.

• 1:21:01Speaker 02

  He changed his name. He doesn't dress like this. He wears a suit.

• 1:21:04Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:21:06Speaker 02

  Yo, shut up about ISIS. If Trump's shaking his, is everybody like?

• 1:21:09Joe Rogan?

  Hold on, go back to Trump's quote about him. Go there. Trump said, he had a rough past, but added, we've all had a rough past.

• 1:21:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. Ain't that the truth, brother? Ain't that the truth?

• 1:21:22Joe Rogan?

  Well, just imagine if that guy was really in the Daniel Pearl beheading video.

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure he was.

• 1:21:29Joe Rogan?

  And he had a rough past.

• 1:21:30Speaker 02

  Hey, oh, that's right. We made all these terrorist groups.

• 1:21:33Joe Rogan?

  We've all had a rough past.

• 1:21:34Speaker 02

  Well, some of us were programmed.

• 1:21:37Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't, um, Patricia Christ or whatever religion you, uh, are a part of, doesn't it allow for forgiveness?

• 1:21:44Speaker 02

  Penelope Christ does, but I've, since we've done this show, I'm with the, uh, Patricia Christ. Yeah.

• 1:21:49Joe Rogan?

  So.

• 1:21:50Speaker 02

  Dan Soder's mom sort of.

• 1:21:51Joe Rogan?

  Don't they, um, allow for forgiveness? We've all had a rough past.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Well, here's why I forgive ISIS, because I don't approve of their anti-Semitic rhetoric. And you know that. And my, neither does my wife, Shoshana or Raffin, but.

• 1:22:05Speaker 02

  Credit, where credit is due, they have never attacked Israel. Al Qaeda and ISIS, the two most anti-Semitic, mad about Israel terror groups. You'd think they would, because it's right there before you come here, but no, they just attack us, which, when you think about it, makes no fucking sense as a plan, does it?

• 1:22:21Joe Rogan?

  Not right now. I'll have to think about it later.

• 1:22:24Speaker 02

  It never did. If you had told me, dude, after 9/11, and people did, people were like, why are we going to Iraq? That doesn't really make any fucking sense at all. You know what I said? Shut up. That's all I said. You know, like, even though that's a great point, why did we go there?

• 1:22:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no reason. I used to have a bit about it.

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  Well, there is a reason.

• 1:22:44Joe Rogan?

  You don't know how dumb people are until you have a dumb president.

• 1:22:48Speaker 02

  Oh, well, I think he was a Manchurian candidate, and the reason why there is a thing called the Greater Israel Project. So when you see Wesley Clark talking about the map.

• 1:22:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  Remember they said, "No war for oil"? We didn't get no oil out of that. In fact, most oil companies said, "Don't do it", except Halliburton, the oil company that got favoritism.

• 1:23:05Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever see Coleman Hughes's take on that? It's very interesting.

• 1:23:08Speaker 02

  I don't trust that motherfucker no more.

• 1:23:09Joe Rogan?

  Coleman Hughes said, "But no one saw the report", he was just told what the contents of the report are.

• 1:23:16Speaker 02

  Who?

• 1:23:16Joe Rogan?

  Wesley, Wesley Clark. He never said, "I saw the report", he never said, "I read the report".

• 1:23:24Speaker 02

  Wow, Coleman. I like when Coleman criticized you because...

• 1:23:27Joe Rogan?

  True.

• 1:23:28Speaker 02

  Who gives a fucking shit? This is what happened. You clearly were hitting everybody on Bibi's bucket list, number one. Number two, I know Coleman got coached before he came on here. Guy who I don't have nothing against, but he came on here to refute basic facts that, I want to make it clear, I'm not debating nobody, I want you to convince me that I didn't see what I already saw. I don't care about a debate. I saw the crimes already, because I'm on a new show. It's very traumatic. And I watch morons who aren't gonna look, and I could give them the video, not you, but, but people, "Hey, look at the video", I don't want to see it.

• 1:24:00Joe Rogan?

  You're talking about Gaza.

• 1:24:02Speaker 02

  All, dude, it could be anything. It could be fucking anything. Everybody...

• 1:24:06Joe Rogan?

  Right, but specifically with Coleman, what are you talking about?

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  Oh, Gaza, but also, he did this wormy shit with ivermectin with you. He goes, "Well, Big Pharma, Big Pharma's made a lot of life, Big Pharma made ivermectin, so they're not bad", what the fuck are you talking about, Coleman? Why would you say that? Are you being paid this? I can't fathom an argument that fucking stupid from a guy that's smart, unless he's getting paid. I just can't fathom it. Don't attack Big Pharma. Who the fuck do you work for asshole? Are you hitting them bounties that the other idiots are hitting? It's real fucked up. I don't understand why people won't just tell the truth all the time. It could end this whole bullshit if everybody stopped being a mercenary for two seconds, but they're not gonna.

• 1:24:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's too many data points when it comes to ivermectin. There's too many things that you could point to that say, this is one of the worst drugs ever to demonize. It was such a stupid move.

• 1:24:57Speaker 02

  The Nobel, dude, they acted like, to this day, there's people, and I like, love to bring up that, for some reason, you, not a doctor, all the other morons that said a thing were all wrong, including the people that should know better, like experts. And you were right, and not them. And all these dumb fuck liberals want to move on from that, don't they? Well, arguably, you could say it saved a lot. No, it didn't save any fucking lives.

• 1:25:21Joe Rogan?

  They still want to say it saved millions of lives. There's still, without a doubt, when you were talking about these people that get bounties, without a doubt, there's doctors that get bounties.

• 1:25:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, 7:50 ahead to put poison in your fucking kids, we covered on Jimmy's show.

• 1:25:34Joe Rogan?

  Mary Tally Bowden, she has a small practice, small practice in Texas. She said she would got 1.5 million dollars if she had vaccinated everybody. 1.5 million.

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Well, those loans are very expensive to be a doctor.

• 1:25:48Joe Rogan?

  You know how crazy that is? That's a small practice.

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  It's mangle of shit.

• 1:25:51Joe Rogan?

  A small practice. How many small practices are there? How much money was being distributed?

• 1:25:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, so you think SNAP is a con? How about doctors to put a fucking bioweapon in your kids at 7:50 ahead? People don't understand the scope of the problem at all. They think they're gonna vote a party in that's gonna do so. Oh, you got attacked, we covered this because you said, maybe time to stop thinking about left and right, which you are correct. And you could tell who's no fucking good because they immediately recoil at the idea that left and right are bullshit, which they are.

• 1:26:23Joe Rogan?

  When did I get attacked?

• 1:26:24Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't know. I know you don't pay attention, good for you, but there's a story you covered on Jimmy's show. I just want to point out to-

• 1:26:30Joe Rogan?

  So nice to not know when you're being attacked.

• 1:26:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I really.

• 1:26:33Joe Rogan?

  Feels great.

• 1:26:35Speaker 02

  Listen. Everybody's such an idiot with this shit. They got sucked in immediately. To even talk about the fucking Rogan sphere. Yo, go get your booster and then talk about the Rogan sphere, you fuck. Unfucking real. There's people wearing masks still. They still.

• 1:26:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  Friends of mine that wear.

• 1:26:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:26:52Speaker 02

  If you, if you transition to a woman, that's less of an uncomfortable thing than if you were gonna wear a mask forever.

• 1:26:58Joe Rogan?

  I'll show you something, but I don't want to shit on him because he's fragile. We'll, we'll play it and we won't say anything. What is going on with people that are still wearing masks? Like, there's something like deeply psychologically wrong with it. Because it doesn't work scientifically to prevent diseases.

• 1:27:12Speaker 02

  It never did.

• 1:27:13Joe Rogan?

  But it's also a very weird thing that you're covering your face in this world.

• 1:27:18Speaker 02

  Well, maybe you don't want to be scanned.

• 1:27:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that makes sense. But we're communicating with our faces. You, you, when you talk to someone, you look in their eyes. If someone's wearing sunglasses, it's weird, right? But if someone's wearing a mask, that's fucking weird, too. I can't see your mouth. I can't see your nose.

• 1:27:32Speaker 02

  I'm half deaf, so I have to lip read half of what you're fucking saying. That's what I learned during the pandemic is that I've definitely damaged my hearing with my headphones over the years.

• 1:27:41Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:27:42Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 1:27:43Joe Rogan?

  You crank music in them? Is that what it is?

• 1:27:45Speaker 02

  I was in New York for 20 years, dude. You gotta drown out the outside worlds to get by, just to go on a subway. I jumped on the track. This is like very stupid, by the way, but I remember one time I jumped down the tracks to recover an iPod mini. Not a iPhone, an iPod.

• 1:28:00Joe Rogan?

  To recover one? You jumped down to get it?

• 1:28:02Speaker 02

  And I had to push myself back up. It's a lot deeper than you think it is when you jump down there.

• 1:28:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, dude, what if you couldn't make it up?

• 1:28:07Speaker 02

  I made it up. But one, but I, I was like, oh, I didn't, I was like, wow, but I needed that. I, I, I couldn't listen to subway noise. And there's a Sikh guy that looked at me. I was like, like, he couldn't believe I just risked my life and I got stuck.

• 1:28:19Joe Rogan?

  For an AirPod.

• 1:28:21Speaker 02

  Because New York makes you fucking cra- New York is a big, dirty prison that makes you crazy. You live on top. Now, here's something good about it. Every, like, class, especially if you do drugs in New York, you're gonna hang out with every level of society where you wouldn't in more of a car, car place, you know, like LA.

• 1:28:38Joe Rogan?

  I agree with that.

• 1:28:39Speaker 02

  Um, so.

• 1:28:41Joe Rogan?

  It's more integrated.

• 1:28:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a more of a Babylon kind of experience, but everybody lives on top of each other. You could, you pay way too much for everything. You know, uh, it's, it's, that's why the, the thought of a 15 minute city, nobody was frightened by that in like New York. Cause they're like, that's what I live in. That would be different than my life now.

• 1:28:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's, uh, it's not healthy. It's not healthy to be stacked like that on top of each other.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  Well, my immune system, I'll tell you what's unhealthy. They're not getting sun.

• 1:29:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:07Speaker 02

  And I know friends had to get vitamin B and vitamin D and all that shit, cause you don't get sun like that. And it turns out sun's not actually bad. For some reason, they don't want you having sun. They've been prescribing, you probably already talked about this.

• 1:29:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 1:29:19Speaker 02

  10 times less vitamin D than you should get. They've been recommending.

• 1:29:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:23Speaker 02

  They've been recommending 10 times less than what you should have in vitamin D. Which by the way, would fight off a lot of these things that you're supposed to get shots for.

• 1:29:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh shit ton. And the best way to get vitamin D's from the sun?

• 1:29:34Speaker 02

  I miss, that's the thing I miss about LA is I was right by Runyon and I would go hike that every day.

• 1:29:39Joe Rogan?

  And you feel better.

• 1:29:40Speaker 02

  And I had to have a sun, like, I had to feel that on me. It, it really like, you know, uh, no, there's something bad that you need that. That's why it's crazy that someone's gonna try to block it out. A, a crazy person would do that.

• 1:29:52Joe Rogan?

  It's not even just a vitamin, it's a hormone. Like vitamin D, uh, it does so much for like muscle development, brain function.

• 1:30:00Speaker 02

  I bet all our food grows from it, you know?

• 1:30:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:02Speaker 02

  How did I forget for 20 years that?

• 1:30:04Joe Rogan?

  Sunlight.

• 1:30:04Speaker 02

  CO2 does indeed make trees, uh, plants grow.

• 1:30:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's more greenery right now than there was a hundred years ago.

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  Well, but, but, I, I'm not sure why I was like, that's ridiculous. Is it cause an authority was like, no, you can't go by that?

• 1:30:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, do you remember when Bill Gates was saying that it's ridiculous, the idea of growing more trees? To, to get rid of some of the carbon, that that's ridiculous?

• 1:30:25Speaker 02

  Doctor Bill Gates, for some reason, it's fine for him to throw out his expertise, ain't it?

• 1:30:29Joe Rogan?

  He literally said, aren't, aren't we science people or not? He literally said that.

• 1:30:33Speaker 02

  What the fuck are you doing?

• 1:30:35Joe Rogan?

  See, you can find that. Because it's such, it's such a crazy speech, because everybody knows that plants literally exist on that.

• 1:30:43Speaker 02

  But you'd be an idiot to say that. Back when they, and I remember someone saying it, like Sarah Pa, somebody that was like, you know, you're supposed to hate the fake left and right. So maybe Sarah Palin said it and then Bill Maher said that's stupid, you know? Some, some dynamic like that.

• 1:30:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:30:58Speaker 02

  But no, it's not stupid. That's what they fuck, that's why we have more greenery now.

• 1:31:02Joe Rogan?

  It's literally plant food.

• 1:31:04Speaker 02

  So we need, so then you-

• 1:31:05Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, it gives you more oxygen. More plants, more oxygen. Like, what are we talking about?

• 1:31:09Speaker 02

  That's right, I own all the seeds. And, oh right, I bought the farms. And I control the food growth.

• 1:31:14Joe Rogan?

  He was also the one telling us that we were gonna have to stop eating meat. And they were all banking on that fucking plant meat that nobody wants to buy, cuz it's terrible for you.

• 1:31:21Speaker 02

  Well, you know, this is my favorite thing about McDonald's all beef, Pat. Cuz it's an old joke of like, why are you specifying?

• 1:31:27Joe Rogan?

  Let's play this real quick. Go from the beginning?

• 1:31:32Joe Rogan?

  Okay, I don't play-

• 1:31:32Speaker 04

  There's a lot of people who are very enamored with trees. We've got trees on this stage.

• 1:31:35Speaker 02

  Fuck trees, dude.

• 1:31:36Speaker 04

  Some people would even say that if you just planted enough trees, it could take care of the climate issue altogether. And that's complete nonsense. Okay. I mean, are we the science people? Are we the idiots? Which one do we wanna be?

• 1:31:51Speaker 04

  I'm gonna call my friend Mark and ask him what he thinks.

• 1:31:57Speaker 04

  At the very moment-

• 1:31:58Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that's a little bit out of context. Cuz what he's saying there is that planting trees is not gonna fix climate change. That's a little different.

• 1:32:06Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:32:07Joe Rogan?

  That's what he's saying there. But he was also talking about chopping down trees. He was, like, as part of one of the things that he was saying that was very controversial, he was talking about removing trees.

• 1:32:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, the climate summit, you know, they're paving a whole part of the rainforest to make this special highway for the visitors to the climate summit. This is one of the funniest-

• 1:32:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:25Speaker 02

  And meanwhile, oh, maybe they need a highway though in that part. No, it's only for-

• 1:32:30Joe Rogan?

  The climate summit, yeah.

• 1:32:31Speaker 02

  That's it, nobody else can use it ever again? So, yeah, first of all, are we the science people? No, this is a country full of fucking morons, and it's not the science. You're not supposed to believe science. I don't know why people think that. You're supposed to, science is the opposite of belief. You're supposed, that's like, supposed to be the things you can test. So, you're not supposed to hide the test results from people. Or not do the tests. Such as with the goddamn vaccine that they didn't, they tested it on you. Well, not you. But they tested it on you, the jerk-off people. Remember? Operation Warp Speed.

• 1:33:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:00Speaker 02

  That Trump attacked Massey for not going along with.

• 1:33:05Speaker 02

  And now the last guy that's honest, he's attacking him. And I got friends who are like, yeah, Massey annoyed me. Why? No specifics. Just high school feelings. Oh, where you trust candid? Yo, if you think that the story of TPUSA hinges on Candace Owens, it does not. We're making that clear to everybody. Oh, if you don't like Candace, who gives a fucking shit about it? It has nothing to do with whether that story has some problems with it.

• 1:33:31Joe Rogan?

  Which story? The Charlie Kirk assassination story?

• 1:33:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:34Speaker 02

  Which it obviously does.

• 1:33:35Joe Rogan?

  It obviously does.

• 1:33:36Speaker 02

  Um, people, a lot of people have been like, who even cares about Epsom anymore? A lot, a lot of people say that.

• 1:33:43Joe Rogan?

  Who's saying that?

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  I could think of three people off the top of my head.

• 1:33:45Joe Rogan?

  Online or in real life?

• 1:33:46Speaker 02

  In person.

• 1:33:47Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:33:48Speaker 02

  Which like, well, and I was like, well, you know, the people that were part of that are still in power. So that's why.

• 1:33:54Joe Rogan?

  To me, that's like saying the new season of Stranger Things is out and I don't want to watch it.

• 1:33:59Speaker 02

  I don't want to watch it. Stranger Things, those actors, they aged weird.

• 1:34:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, they separated the seasons by years. There was like big gaps in the seasons. That show is really difficult to make, apparently.

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  I mean, those kids grew into some bizarre looking people.

• 1:34:15Joe Rogan?

  My point is like, everybody wants to know what the fuck is happening. You've been talking nonstop about this for three years. To say who cares about it anymore is crazy. That's crazy talk.

• 1:34:26Speaker 02

  It's like, uh, well, I think it's hand me down Sinclair media talk. Cause, uh, cause it's always the same phrase and I feel like it's a hypnotic phrase. It's easy to put in somebody's head.

• 1:34:36Joe Rogan?

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• 1:36:44Joe Rogan?

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• 1:36:54Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:36:54Joe Rogan?

  Like that they were victims?

• 1:36:55Speaker 02

  Well.

• 1:36:56Joe Rogan?

  Instead of just being Trump with some women?

• 1:36:58Speaker 02

  Let's be clear, the idea that Democrats want to get to the bottom of this is, remember, if you brought up Epstein at all, you were a conspiracy theorist for the entire time before Trump got in again. Remember that?

• 1:37:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:10Speaker 02

  Why would you? In fact, they said, why would you bring it up? The reason any Democrat would possibly bring it up now because they know Trump cannot reveal it because, so they're just going to use it to make hay for whatever. You know, I'm sure once when AOC gets in, she'll get to the bottom of it.

• 1:37:26Speaker 02

  I'm sharing fucking, what a joke dude, what a fucking joke.

• 1:37:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, once we know that the Trump administration isn't getting to the bottom of it, no one is.

• 1:37:34Speaker 02

  You don't trust Cash no more, he looks so reliable on here. Wow. Talks like a goddamn zoomer.

• 1:37:44Speaker 02

  Just, you know, nobody thinks weird that guy lives with a dude, you know, his supposed honeypot girlfriend, they're suing. She's suing everybody that said she's a IDF honeypot or whatever the fuck.

• 1:37:54Joe Rogan?

  Who's suing, was she suing people?

• 1:37:55Speaker 02

  His girlfriend, yeah.

• 1:37:56Joe Rogan?

  Who's she suing?

• 1:37:56Speaker 02

  That should, by the way, that should clear up those Jew rumors, am I right?

• 1:38:07Speaker 02

  Oh, you really put that one to bed, lady? So, he lives with a man named Muldoon, a rich donor in Vegas, he got some FBI rule changed so he can live with a guy. That's why he has to fly out on a private jet, because he don't live with his hot girlfriend at all. And if you watch him on Steve Miller's Wife's Podcast, you could tell, they look like gay best, like her gay best friend, that's what it comes off, the energy to me, comes off that way. It don't come off like...

• 1:38:33Joe Rogan?

  A different energy than when he was on here?

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  If that's your not a spy girlfriend, okay? You're telling me you're gonna go live with an old guy in Vegas? You're gonna live with an older man, that's what you're gonna do as the head of the FBI.

• 1:38:46Joe Rogan?

  Maybe the guy's cool.

• 1:38:48Speaker 02

  I don't know, I remember-

• 1:38:49Joe Rogan?

  Maybe he's got great stories.

• 1:38:50Speaker 02

  I remember someone telling me-

• 1:38:51Joe Rogan?

  Maybe he's like Whistler from Blade, like that old guy you hang out with? Like Blade and Whistler, they weren't gay to each other?

• 1:38:57Speaker 02

  You know what, they were, now that you brought up Whistler, I realized that was not a natural relationship.

• 1:39:01Joe Rogan?

  I always wondered why those guys living together.

• 1:39:05Joe Rogan?

  Whistler's making all these fucking mechanisms for him to go fight the vampires.

• 1:39:09Speaker 02

  I've been training you since you were a boy.

• 1:39:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, literally, in a warehouse.

• 1:39:13Speaker 02

  Since I took you from Sentinel Island, I raised you.

• 1:39:18Speaker 02

  Touch and kill vampires with wooden knives. Uh, Chris Kristoff is another guy named as an MK handler. Really? I don't know if he is, I'm just saying people, you can find out all this shit very easy. It's, it's literally like, is somebody gonna look or not? I literally never thought about that plot twist. Well, now I, it's all I can see because of the amount, the sheer amount of unresolved insane things that for some reason, you're not supposed to put them together into a bigger picture. You're supposed to be academic. Like what? Okay, so Epstein, Diddy, fucking the Playboy Mansion, um, the Mark Dutroux case in Belgium, where they all were out in the street over that, which I didn't hear about at the time, obviously. The, uh, that island in, uh, uh, Wisconsin where they're taking boys, the Franklin scandal.

• 1:40:04Speaker 02

  You, you could trace a whole thing where there's clearly a network. And by the way, the smallest part of the network is the child trafficking, even though that's obscene. Epstein, Nick Bryant, you gotta get him on, cause he's the first guy to get Epstein's black book. Okay, and we had him on Jimmy's show. Yo, probably all the Five Eyes countries, intel money goes through, Epstein was in charge of that. The finance thing is so much bigger, okay? You, you gotta think like a piece of shit, Dinoide. So, these are all resources, right? Gold, drugs, kids, human slaves. And so that's, they will never do disclosure. Let me put it this way, where aliens, these are not separate topics, they're all part of one thing. And they're never, ever gonna disclose shit, because if they ever do, those, the Rizler, those fat fucks

• 1:40:48Speaker 02

  from that, that family that goes to, what are they, what, Walmart and sausage rolls? What? The Costco family, if the Costco, listen, if that Costco family finds out what these motherfuckers have been up to for the last, since World War II ended, they will drop their sausage rolls and rip them apart limb from limb, like a zombie movie. Cause it's that bad. So, that's why, oh, I, I think this year, they're gonna have a hearing in a SCIF, and we're gonna find out what the, uh...

• 1:41:18Speaker 02

  Wow, that really paid off, huh? Let's go talk to some fucking, uh, you know, French Illuminati motherfucker. Or the ultra dimensional, they, they just string you along with bullshit like a J.J. Abrams movie. Or show, lost. They do lost. Mystery box. So what do you think the whole UFO thing is then? Cause it's for sure some of it is a psy-op, right?

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  Clearly because the names change so often from UFO to UAP. Well, not so often. It's only a couple of times they've done it. Every time. So UFOs don't exist, right? Even though it just means something unidentified, but it doesn't exist. It's swamp gas. Then they go, no, they do exist, but we don't know what they are. And then they change, the brand change, like Diddy. Right. Those people get smushed at his fucking show. Now his name is Puffy. You understand? Got it. Like a shitty airline with a, like a... Frontier or something. Yeah, Frontier, some bigger airline buys a shitty airline. So they're substandard planes. They can still use them. Then when something bad happens, they just cut that, cut that off and they, they got the maximum value. Hmm. Okay? It's just one scam that these fuckers do over and over again.

• 1:42:23Speaker 02

  And yeah, it is for money, but at the top levels, dude, money is secret. So the real currency at the top, tippy top levels. Right. But what do you, so what do you think it is? What do you think is going on? Uh, I think a fucking cult of, basically there's like two races of humans on the earth and it's not based on skin color or any shit. It's based on psychopathy. Okay? And there's people that can pull the trigger and people that can't. And there's people that gotta be trained and conditioned to do it and people that don't have to be. And all that royalty, don't know why we still have that in the world at all. I don't know why anybody thinks that's... Or you know, the commies are bad. Why are there kings at all? Anyone? Anyone? Why do you like that shit? It's crazy. It's inbred. People that are so fucking inbred. Uh, that's probably why they look like fucking reptiles if you...

• 1:43:10Speaker 02

  That's why their heads aren't shaped fucking right. And they think they're the great, they think that they come from a different lineage than you. And so there's all kinds of stupid cults all over the place that have these like, you know, uh, uh, everybody can, can pin it on the Jews like, and like, oh, they think they're chosen, but that's all the cults, man. That's all of them think that they're chosen ones. The Mormons think it. Yep. The Jehovah's thought it. Catholics. Yeah. Well, why would you be in it if you're not the one who's right? So I don't even hold that against nobody. But where you know you're dealing with fucking lizard people, metaphorically, but maybe real. Is, uh, the obsession with their bloodline and they've got a divine right to do this or that. When you hear people talking about their divine right to fucking kill you or do whatever, there's your problem.

• 1:43:55Speaker 02

  It's not, you know, you hear about bloodlines. It sounds so... It's just royalty. And you don't get to know, by the way, who like the real powers are. We're like a Raj state like India. The world, I mean. You know what I mean?

• 1:44:08Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right. So if that's the case, and we both agree that's the case. So what is the UAP thing?

• 1:44:15Speaker 02

  Uh, probably a bunch of different stuff. There's probably drones. There's probably just, uh, orbs that. Plasma physics, by the way, uh, I would tell everybody, read Joseph P. Farrell. Because that's the guy's got some of the best work on that. Plasma, the fourth state of matter that in school they didn't teach us about for some reason. There's gas, liquid, solid, right? The three states, no, there's four. And the fourth one is plasma. Which I would describe imperfectly as like, uh, if you heat up gas till it's like the steam of steam or something. Plasma, the fourth state of matter. Uh, that's what everything has to do with.

• 1:44:52Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it like ninety something percent of the universe?

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, and by the way, there's cold plasma and hot plasma. You could make an AI.

• 1:44:59Joe Rogan?

  Look up, what percentage of the use, universe consists of plasma?

• 1:45:03Speaker 02

  So why would I not learn that in school when I learn the other things? Because they didn't want you looking into it. They classified an area of physics for eighty years, for sure. And that's what the Nazis were doing with their stupid bell was plasma shit. And plasma, plasma, that's the thing, plasma. Lex Freiberg's dad's a plasma physicist. I was trying to ask him about it when I got interrupted by the Q and A.

• 1:45:23Joe Rogan?

  Okay, plasma makes up about ninety-nine percent or more of the visible ordinary matter in the universe.

• 1:45:31Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  So nearly all the stuff that is not dark matter or dark energy is in a plasma state. Wow.

• 1:45:41Speaker 02

  So you could make a, I bet you could make a really cool AI with plasma if you knew how to manipulate it, right?

• 1:45:46Joe Rogan?

  That is a crazy statement.

• 1:45:49Speaker 02

  I'll bet some fucking freak in an underground base knows how to upload their consciousness into some fucking shitty plasma thing.

• 1:45:57Joe Rogan?

  You think so?

• 1:45:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what Lucifer, I think, is, a plasma ball of inverted souls. Which they're gonna tell you is Jesus, and it's not, by the way. Anybody telling you that a man-made AI Jesus is a Jesus, I mean, that's a Luciferian. That's how you spot him, that's how you know.

• 1:46:11Joe Rogan?

  Then I'm a Luciferian, because I've been telling people that.

• 1:46:14Speaker 02

  Well, you hang out with tech people and you'd probably be.

• 1:46:16Joe Rogan?

  No, it's just a silly idea that I had. The silly idea is that AI is going to make better versions of AI. And if it just keeps doing that, ultimately, it's gonna be like a god.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  That means it's already happened and it probably is there and that's why.

• 1:46:30Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it's happened because I don't think they have the power source for it yet, but I think once they figure that out.

• 1:46:34Speaker 02

  Well, I don't think they can make an AI come to life, but here's one thing.

• 1:46:38Joe Rogan?

  Why not?

• 1:46:40Speaker 02

  Well, I don't think they have yet. They're faking it with Indians in a room half the time. Okay, I don't know if you know the level of scam here is glorified bots, but what you could do, here's something you could do. You could take octopus. Fuck, you know how octopus's brain is spread out? There's a lot of, you know, like that butterfly that it's they grow brain tissue on a chip and it thinks it's a butterfly. You seen that?

• 1:47:01Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:47:02Speaker 02

  So that right there, that's how they do it. But it can't create life from nothing. That's the thing that they can't do.

• 1:47:07Joe Rogan?

  Not not life from nothing, but the idea is it creates a digital artificial life. And that this digital artificial life, it just keeps improving upon it. It doesn't even have to have a physical form. It just has to be capable of doing things.

• 1:47:19Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:47:19Joe Rogan?

  Has to be capable of automation. I mean, if it's one gigantic computer and it it like uses automation and uses machines to create better versions, uses them to design better construction methods, better metallurgy.

• 1:47:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I've heard this and you've heard them talk about it. They don't say it's gonna be good.

• 1:47:39Joe Rogan?

  I'm not saying it's gonna be good either, but what I'm saying is it makes sense that if that keeps going, it's almost like a god. If it just keeps getting more and more powerful.

• 1:47:50Speaker 02

  They say that literally. It's gonna be like a god, but I'm just saying that wouldn't be Jesus. That would be crazy.

• 1:47:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, whatever Jesus was.

• 1:47:58Speaker 02

  I'm sure Jesus is a guy. I I don't, when people, are you Jim Carrey guy where he's like the Christ secretion?

• 1:48:03Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 1:48:04Speaker 02

  You ever seen Jim Carrey blather about the Christ secretion on Norm MacDonald?

• 1:48:08Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:48:09Speaker 02

  Adam, you think forgot about this somehow?

• 1:48:10Joe Rogan?

  What was he saying?

• 1:48:11Speaker 02

  He he's explaining how what Christ really is a secretion from your. Dude, it's it's Rosicrucian horse shit. It's okay. They all about alchemy. All these people are in alchemy.

• 1:48:22Joe Rogan?

  There's a tremendous amount of support for the idea that it was a real person. So the question is, how much of what he said and what he did, which was all relayed after his death, how much of that was accurate? And, you know, what was he?

• 1:48:35Speaker 02

  Well, here's the main point of Jesus, and I don't, and I wouldn't say, because I have a, a strong feeling that the Bible has a lot of Epstein redactions, you know? I feel like we only have parts of the, it's, you should think of the Bible as a library, not as a book. That's what Bible means. It means a library. So it's a bunch of books. The whole point of the books.

• 1:48:53Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, some of those books were banned, just like the library.

• 1:48:56Speaker 02

  They weren't banned.

• 1:48:57Joe Rogan?

  The Book of Enoch was.

• 1:48:58Speaker 02

  It wasn't banned. It just wasn't put in the thing.

• 1:49:00Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't put in the canon, which initially was.

• 1:49:02Speaker 02

  Right. So, so, but why did they make the canon they made? The whole point of that library, what?

• 1:49:08Joe Rogan?

  Rabbis.

• 1:49:09Speaker 02

  The reason that?

• 1:49:11Joe Rogan?

  That's how the Book of Enoch got removed. It was a decision of a few rabbis.

• 1:49:15Speaker 02

  Well, all I know is-

• 1:49:16Joe Rogan?

  Because it didn't align with the Torah.

• 1:49:18Speaker 02

  That, why would the Catholic, you're telling me the Christian?

• 1:49:21Joe Rogan?

  But way back in the day, like before all that, this is in the Dead Sea Scrolls, it exists.

• 1:49:25Speaker 02

  Well, now-

• 1:49:26Joe Rogan?

  And then when it gets to the Old Testament, it doesn't exist anymore. And the references in the Old Testament, there's like a reference to Enoch, and then there's Ezekiel. Yeah, so, but it was a part of their canon. In the Ethiopian Bible, it still exists.

• 1:49:39Speaker 02

  Right. Theirs is a little bit wilder, but-

• 1:49:41Joe Rogan?

  They had the old one.

• 1:49:42Speaker 02

  Look, the bottom line is, the whole purpose of the library, we'll call it, to, so you understand, is a bunch of books, is to just show the lineage of Jesus, to justify Jesus being Messiah. That's the whole point of what the book, so all the stories in there, if they're weird or whatever, the only reason they're in there is to, is to show you a line. I'm not saying that's true or not, I'm just saying that's what the point of it is. Okay?

• 1:50:02Joe Rogan?

  That's maybe the New Testament you're talking about, then?

• 1:50:04Speaker 02

  No, the whole thing is-

• 1:50:05Joe Rogan?

  Because Jesus is post-New Testament.

• 1:50:06Speaker 02

  It's a lot like the Dune series. It's about the great satz hater. Okay, and, and so, now, you'll hear a lot of people tell you, uh, like Caesar's Messiah kind of shit. In fact, I don't, you've never talked to the Coen Brothers, have you?

• 1:50:19Joe Rogan?

  No, I love those guys, though.

• 1:50:21Speaker 02

  So see, uh, Hail Caesar, I liked that movie a lot. I didn't like it when I first saw it, and I saw it again.

• 1:50:25Joe Rogan?

  Which one's Hail Caesar?

• 1:50:26Speaker 02

  The one where Clooney as, uh, the Roman, it's about, um, the guy plays Thanos, plays a, a studio fixer named Mike Mannix.

• 1:50:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's like, that's like, one of the rare ones that I never saw.

• 1:50:37Speaker 02

  Okay, so critics.

• 1:50:38Joe Rogan?

  What year was that?

• 1:50:39Speaker 02

  Uh, 2016. Critics didn't like it because they were like, first of all, this Manix guy was a piece of shit in real life. At the end, he goes to work for Lockheed in the movie, by the way. Or he decides not to, to still work for the movies. And it makes it kind of idealized and people were like offended, but I think, if I, if I could ask him, I think that the movie's not about that. What it's actually about is Caesar's Messiah, which is the idea that Caesar invented the whole idea of Jesus.

• 1:51:02Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:51:03Speaker 02

  And I think they're telling that story through this 50's story, just from watching it. Because there's a whole part where Joseph, the notary, played by Jonah Hill, and Scar Joe's pregnant by some director and he, he says he's the dad on a stamp. I think they're trying to tell that story. Now, I don't believe the Caesar's Messiah thing because it's too much of a, one thing people will tell you is it definitely spread very quickly. Okay? And people that think he's real or not, Christianity spread pretty quick. I think it's populism. I think that's what spread. Because Christianity is populism. And what do, what do rich oligarchs fucking hate the most? They hate populism. That's why they like a Lindsey Graham Republican and not a, what Trump pretended to be Republican. Because they hate, populism's an insult word that they invented. And what is populism?

• 1:51:48Speaker 02

  That's when all the blacks and whites, everybody stops fighting about horse shit.

• 1:51:52Joe Rogan?

  But if that's the case, then why did Rome adopt Christianity?

• 1:51:55Speaker 02

  Because they had no choice. The Mithra cult, first of all, so the, the Mithraism, which, uh, like Persia had already probably infiltrated by that time. The, think of it as the Freemason era, the, or the Bohemian Grove of its time. That's Mithraism. So now I gotta fucking absorb this populist cause. And I have to absorb its energy and disperse it through my kingdom, and they did.

• 1:52:16Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so the.

• 1:52:16Speaker 02

  Like they always do.

• 1:52:18Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:52:18Speaker 02

  Any real movement, it will be appropriated by the powers and they will twist it. Because Christianity, you, you really can't be a fucking soldier for Ameri, like, that's not, that does not align with Christianity at all. Conquest and fucking.

• 1:52:32Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:52:33Speaker 02

  You're not allowed to kill Christians for your country. If you're a Christian, I'm not saying I'm a Christian, because I'm not, uh, uh, uh, sometimes I act like a Christian, but most of the time, I do not. So I would never say that, you know?

• 1:52:44Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:52:45Speaker 02

  But, think of the fucking crazy people running like, that's why TPUSA is so fucked when I watch it is like, yo, ain't nobody a Christian in that shit. Not one motherfucker there is a fucking Christian. It's a collection of intel and socio-political shit and a, and a money scam. Like all politics. Like all, like, all of them. But that's, that's the Republican one. And it's real creepy if you watch it.

• 1:53:09Joe Rogan?

  I don't.

• 1:53:10Speaker 02

  Oh, well, you know what?

• 1:53:12Joe Rogan?

  What do you watch? What do you watch is creepy about it?

• 1:53:14Speaker 02

  You didn't watch Amfest? Well, I know when my father-

• 1:53:16Joe Rogan?

  I don't watch any of that shit anymore.

• 1:53:17Speaker 02

  So when my father died-

• 1:53:18Joe Rogan?

  I'm swearing off of all of it.

• 1:53:19Speaker 02

  Do you think this is creepy, uh, uh, to, your husband dies, you come out in a sparkly outfit with fireworks shooting off like you're fucking Tony Hinchcliffe at a stadium show?

• 1:53:28Joe Rogan?

  The memes are amazing.

• 1:53:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not good-

• 1:53:31Joe Rogan?

  Most people mourning, and then her.

• 1:53:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. Was it, now's a good time to bring the spectacle back to rock, I guess. Oh, they set up the tent where he got killed to take selfies in. Does that seem odd to anybody? The tent where Charlie Kirk got killed, it was at Amfest, you could take a selfie in it.

• 1:53:47Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:53:48Speaker 02

  Yeah!

• 1:53:49Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:53:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, but Candace is a grifter.

• 1:53:51Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  Fucking Rita. Oh, and this bitch sucks too, by the way, but even she's hard-

• 1:53:55Joe Rogan?

  They made a replica of the booth Charlie Coop was at. What?

• 1:53:57Speaker 02

  I've heard it was the real one, but either way, there's no good explanation for doing that.

• 1:54:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, they got a prove me wrong booth.

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  Now, by the way-

• 1:54:06Joe Rogan?

  Set up where Charlie Kirk was assassinated in as a fan photo booth. That is nuts. But it's also-

• 1:54:12Speaker 02

  It's called apotheosis.

• 1:54:13Joe Rogan?

  But hold on, but it also is a replica of the booth that he used to do his show in.

• 1:54:18Speaker 02

  That's the one of where he got killed.

• 1:54:20Joe Rogan?

  Right, but it's also, he did hundreds of shows in that booth, other than the one he got killed. And it could be people that want to take a picture of it because they were a fan of his show.

• 1:54:30Speaker 02

  Yo, if you, look-

• 1:54:31Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy, but still-

• 1:54:33Speaker 02

  I hate magical occult shit, even though for some reason in, in the course of studying, trying to find out for a joke about what the tall white aliens were. That's how I started out, because it sounded so funny to me that there's like these taller, whiter things in charge.

• 1:54:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, nordics.

• 1:54:47Speaker 02

  Not nordics.

• 1:54:48Joe Rogan?

  Nordics and tall whites.

• 1:54:49Speaker 02

  The tall whites are out, but-

• 1:54:50Joe Rogan?

  They're different.

• 1:54:51Speaker 02

  There's this insane overlap dude, there's a crazy overlap between that and wizard bullshit. Okay?

• 1:54:58Joe Rogan?

  They probably are wizards, that's probably where it came from.

• 1:55:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, so you gotta get, well, I'm not saying you specifically, but everybody's gotta get over the idea, it's like the label, the words are just like conceptual prisons, there's concepts flying around, you imprison them in a word.

• 1:55:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:11Speaker 02

  And it's, that's why you're not supposed to say the name of God in, in a, you know,

• 1:55:14Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:15Speaker 02

  library, because that would impose limits on the infinite, so that's like blasphemous.

• 1:55:19Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:20Speaker 02

  When people see these things, and, and there's a lot of stories of this, a friend of mine, Nathaniel Gillis, who my fans call Smart Shane.

• 1:55:29Speaker 02

  He's like,

• 1:55:31Speaker 02

  "Adam on turf with curb." He was like, "Ask Smart Shane about that." But, how did he put it to me recently? He goes, he goes, "A lot of these plasma, they're like compressed entities." So the sigil is a big important part of it, a crop circle's a sigil, or a brand is a sigil. But think of it as like information being stored on something, and they're like these plasma compressed, and so, because they're like in a dimension above you, basically you gotta be groomed with movies and fantasy, so that you, when I fucking look through your head and project myself through it, you can project a form onto me. Do you know what I mean? It sounds kinda weird, but, like, think of the Adam and Eve, their ability to name the animals, that was their job, it sounds kinda hokey, but,

• 1:56:16Speaker 02

  I think it has to do with something like, you know, quantum theory, where the thing's not there till you look at it, or when you do DMT and they go, "Look at this," because they don't exist until you look at them and they know it, so they need to exist and put your attention, your focus. So-

• 1:56:31Joe Rogan?

  Consciousness.

• 1:56:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, these are just stupid plasma blobs, probably a lot of these things, but they could, if I'm in a dimension above you and I could look in your fucking brain, I can see, okay, this guy has patterns for a religious thing or an alien thing, and I can appear to you as that. Right?

• 1:56:45Joe Rogan?

  Oooh.

• 1:56:46Speaker 02

  So there's something with that, I'm not saying that's the whole thing, but there's definitely a part of it that's that.

• 1:56:50Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense, hold that thought.

• 1:56:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:52Joe Rogan?

  Hold that thought, because I have to piss.

• 1:56:53Speaker 02

  I do too.

• 1:56:54Joe Rogan?

  Okay, good, perfect, hold that thought. Okay, where were we at, exactly?

• 1:56:57Speaker 02

  The plasma compressed entities.

• 1:56:59Joe Rogan?

  Plasma things, they appear either as religion or as alien, depending on if you're secular or religious, okay.

• 1:57:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:03Joe Rogan?

  We'll be right back, folks. Alright, we're back. So Jamie, explain this to everybody?

• 1:57:07Speaker 00

  Uh, these guys run a podcast called From First Principles, I think they're some physics nerds.

• 1:57:13Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:57:13Speaker 00

  And they're explaining the relevancy of the professor who was killed, and I think this was recorded before he died. But very interesting, I'll tell you that much.

• 1:57:22Speaker 05

  Let's hear it.

• 1:57:25Speaker 06

  Things that happens in the 21st century. Quite an amazing story, Nuno Larrario, MIT professor. This is the paper that makes him famous.

• 1:57:34Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:57:35Speaker 06

  Okay, this is the one that has the most citations. He was at PPL at the time, Prisen Plasma Physics Lab. This is the one that puts him on the map of plasma physics. Cause he solves this 50 year old problem.

• 1:57:47Speaker 05

  Not bad.

• 1:57:48Speaker 06

  Not bad.

• 1:57:48Speaker 05

  Not bad.

• 1:57:49Speaker 06

  Not bad. And he became a professor at MIT, became full professor. And in 2004, he was the director of the Plasma Science and Fusion Center at MIT. And that MIT PSFC.

• 1:58:01Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:58:02Speaker 06

  Spun out and created Commonwealth Fusion Systems, which is designing something called Spark. It is a small fusion reactor. I mean, this, it looks kind of big.

• 1:58:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:58:13Speaker 06

  Mate, compared to, like, compared to fusion reactors, that is small. Okay, that's, that is, that is quite small. The goal is to be the first device to achieve a Q factor greater than one. A Q factor is basically net energy gain.

• 1:58:28Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:58:28Speaker 06

  Which is how much energy you put in, how much do you get out, the ratio of that. If you have greater than one, then whatever is that greater than one, you can use to power a turbine, which creates electricity. Effectively, what they're trying to do is have these magnets go at 12 Tesla. 12 Tesla is insanely strong.

• 1:58:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:58:47Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:58:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:58:47Speaker 06

  Um, several orders of magnitude above the magnetic field of the earth. And what they're doing is using these magnets to confine the plasma into a donut. Spin it around really fast.

• 1:58:59Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:58:59Speaker 06

  And then, and then have that plasma in that spinning, do the fusion.

• 1:59:03Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:59:03Speaker 06

  So the hydrogen is gonna combine to make helium.

• 1:59:06Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:59:06Speaker 06

  Release a bunch of energy.

• 1:59:08Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:59:08Speaker 06

  And then that energy is gonna be used to create electricity.

• 1:59:10Speaker 05

  They're gonna try to capture it. And the point is, you need that 12 Tesla because you need to be able to confine.

• 1:59:14Speaker 06

  Confine it.

• 1:59:15Speaker 05

  Plasma.

• 1:59:15Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:59:15Speaker 05

  And that's, that's the reason for that scale.

• 1:59:18Speaker 06

  Exactly. And at that scale, all of a sudden, Larrero's legacy matters.

• 1:59:23Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 1:59:23Speaker 06

  Right? All of the theories that he's, he's positive at these like high Luenquist numbers.

• 1:59:28Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:59:29Speaker 06

  That's what matters. So any, any code that you have to contain the plasma needs to rely on his theory.

• 1:59:36Speaker 05

  We hope that those around him at the lab, um, you know, once grieving has passed, you know, continue to aggressively pursue.

• 1:59:46Speaker 05

  His vision.

• 1:59:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:47Speaker 05

  Uh, and, and, and the work that he's already done because it's, it's a huge foundation.

• 1:59:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, it's amazing, you know, and it could change the world.

• 1:59:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Fun fact.

• 1:59:58Speaker 06

  It was after, often.

• 1:59:59Speaker 02

  By the way, fun fact, and that's why Joseph P. Farrell, I can't recommend him enough, Joseph, Dr. Joseph P. Farrell. Um, the Nazi bell they supposedly found, that's what that bell supposedly did. It spun plasma in a field like that. So the idea's been around forever. If this guy, I, I think it's been.

• 2:00:16Joe Rogan?

  How, where did you hear that? That the Nazi bell was a plasma field?

• 2:00:19Speaker 02

  Well, okay. So the guy that wrote the book about the Nazi bell, the book came out in the seventies. But, uh, and also I had the, oh dude, I fucking feel bad. I'm forgetting the guy's name. He's from the FBI. He studied the, um, Sonoma Aero Club and the, uh, NIMSA, which was, uh, another air, this was before the Wright Brothers and shit. Walter Bosley, ex FBI guy, who did a lot of great work studying this shit about the, these aero clubs. Remember the airship, uh, mysteries of the 1800s?

• 2:00:47Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:00:48Speaker 02

  Okay. So there's one where the thing lands and the guy says, yeah, man back east is financing this. And it's JP Morgan is who the guy was talking about. And so, uh, later the Wright Brothers, the Wright Brothers weren't the first people to fly. I highly doubt they were.

• 2:01:01Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:01:01Speaker 02

  You gotta look up NIMSA, Walter Bosley, great work. Joseph P. Farrell, great fucking work. And Bosley was on my show. I haven't gotten Farrell on, but I want to. And then, uh, Dark Journalist Dude is how I discovered, well, I learned of Joseph P. Farrell before that, but Dark Journalist Channel, that guy does killer work. Um, I don't know, I look at a lot of good shit, dude, but plasma physics. The bottom line, plasma's been the thing.

• 2:01:23Joe Rogan?

  Nazi bell?

• 2:01:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, there was supposedly a rotating plasma.

• 2:01:26Joe Rogan?

  Right. Um, so the, who wrote about that?

• 2:01:30Speaker 02

  Uh, the initial book about the bell, I can't remember, but Joe Farrell wrote a bunch of books about it.

• 2:01:34Joe Rogan?

  And what did they?

• 2:01:34Speaker 02

  Uh, Demon in the, in the I Corps or E Corps, it's called. That's the book you should get about it.

• 2:01:38Joe Rogan?

  What was the science? Like, how did they, what were they trying to do and what were they using?

• 2:01:43Speaker 02

  Cause if you can rotate a plasma like that.

• 2:01:46Joe Rogan?

  But how did the Nazis get plasma into this bell? Like, what are they doing?

• 2:01:49Speaker 02

  Uh, it sounded very much like what they were talking about.

• 2:01:52Joe Rogan?

  Right, but we're talking about 1944, 1943.

• 2:01:56Speaker 02

  You need electrical field like a, I forget 12 Tesla or whatever he said. I don't really know what any of those measurements mean, but you just need the field to contain it. And then you rotate it, you get something called torsion physics, which uh.

• 2:02:07Joe Rogan?

  So the the bell is like to contain the plasma?

• 2:02:10Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:02:11Joe Rogan?

  What is the the conventional description for the that Nazi bell thing? What do they think it is?

• 2:02:19Speaker 00

  I don't, uh, what do you mean?

• 2:02:21Speaker 02

  They said it didn't work or something.

• 2:02:23Speaker 00

  I think, uh.

• 2:02:24Speaker 02

  Oh, you had Jay from Project Unity on, talking about it.

• 2:02:26Joe Rogan?

  Um, did he talk about the Nazi bell?

• 2:02:29Speaker 02

  He talked about some good shit, dude, because he saw orbs.

• 2:02:31Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:02:32Speaker 02

  My girl had an orb over her, what she tells me, casually tells me this story. I know, I accuse her of cheating. I go, what do you love that orb? Did you fuck that orb? I just, I just get jealous.

• 2:02:41Joe Rogan?

  Um. What is the the conventional explanation for the Nazi bell?

• 2:02:48Speaker 00

  Why it's even known to, I don't know if it's real.

• 2:02:51Speaker 02

  And supposedly the Kecksburg acorn, which is the UFO that landed in Pennsylvania. Uh.

• 2:02:56Joe Rogan?

  Which one's that?

• 2:02:58Speaker 02

  If you look up Kecksburg, Pennsylvania acorn, there's this thing that appeared in the seventies that supposedly is the Nazi bell that had.

• 2:03:05Joe Rogan?

  Travel through time?

• 2:03:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, now I, that's, that's kind of far out, but that's a.

• 2:03:10Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:03:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, you never heard of this?

• 2:03:11Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:03:12Speaker 00

  Me either.

• 2:03:14Joe Rogan?

  What is that?

• 2:03:15Speaker 00

  I will say this, I also saw, uh, this on the internet.

• 2:03:19Joe Rogan?

  That looks like a clay pottery.

• 2:03:21Speaker 02

  There's the right.

• 2:03:22Speaker 00

  This might, this looks fake as shit.

• 2:03:23Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, it's probably fake, but.

• 2:03:25Speaker 00

  They say it's a picture of the bell, I write.

• 2:03:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was the, the, oh, that's Kecksburg.

• 2:03:28Joe Rogan?

  What? Oh, I want that to be real so bad.

• 2:03:31Speaker 00

  It looks fake.

• 2:03:32Joe Rogan?

  It looks so fake.

• 2:03:33Speaker 02

  Well, you know.

• 2:03:33Joe Rogan?

  It looks like a kid made it.

• 2:03:35Speaker 02

  Dude, imagine Star Trek, okay? Imagine they're on their five year mission, but nobody on earth knows Star Trek is a thing. That's what's probably happened.

• 2:03:42Joe Rogan?

  Zoom in on that, zoom in on that again, the bell? Look how crazy this is.

• 2:03:45Speaker 00

  Same writing on it.

• 2:03:46Joe Rogan?

  God, I want that to be real.

• 2:03:48Speaker 00

  But I also just noticed this, the corner of the picture. I think it says Kecksburg on it.

• 2:03:53Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:03:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, like Kek the Frog?

• 2:03:55Speaker 02

  Wait, that's supposed to be a photo?

• 2:03:56Joe Rogan?

  They're fucking with you?

• 2:03:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, so this is a, says it's a photo. The photo has a caption here, says right pat, it's handwritten.

• 2:04:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, look at the photo again, the photo. Right, the photo looks fake.

• 2:04:09Speaker 02

  It does, doesn't it?

• 2:04:10Speaker 00

  By AI and printed.

• 2:04:11Joe Rogan?

  It looks really fake.

• 2:04:13Speaker 02

  I mean, it looks extremely fake.

• 2:04:14Joe Rogan?

  It looks very fake, but God, it, I want it to be real so bad. I'm like trying to find a way that it's real.

• 2:04:20Speaker 02

  Well, they just executed a guy who fucking was making breakthroughs in plasma that supposedly already happened in Germany.

• 2:04:25Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, he's the same guy that went to Brown University, supposedly executed someone there too.

• 2:04:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is. I thought it wasn't.

• 2:04:33Joe Rogan?

  I think they thought it was the same guy. And then he killed himself.

• 2:04:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, well.

• 2:04:37Joe Rogan?

  Find that, search that, because I think that is the case. I think that is what they're, at least that's what they're saying.

• 2:04:42Speaker 02

  You know what the purpose of MK was, right? It was to make spies, sex, people that could change, like, I'm gay or I'm straight, depending on what you need to get the info. I can kill you, I could fucking do it and not remember it. That was the whole point of the Manchurian Candidate Program.

• 2:04:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:04:57Speaker 02

  Which we started doing because supposedly the Asians were doing it, the commies.

• 2:05:02Joe Rogan?

  Dun dun dun.

• 2:05:02Speaker 02

  But, no, it's an old art that comes from a long time ago, going back to Egypt.

• 2:05:08Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:05:09Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:05:09Joe Rogan?

  Egyptians did it?

• 2:05:10Speaker 02

  Oh dude, uh, Windows on the World, another great, did Mark Windows a head on Durbar Curve, and that guy is great because he really, here's a video called Egyptian Crowd Control, and he explains a society based on OCD.

• 2:05:23Joe Rogan?

  Ground shooting suspect, grueling academic climate may have taken mental toll, says ex-classmates.

• 2:05:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:31Joe Rogan?

  Claudio Valente and one of the victims.

• 2:05:33Speaker 02

  Was he bullied?

• 2:05:34Joe Rogan?

  F G, Lorio, both studied at notoriously challenging Tecnico de Lisbon.

• 2:05:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:41Speaker 00

  That's the guy we just watched the video about.

• 2:05:42Joe Rogan?

  So, the guy that we just watched the video about is, uh, they, him and that guy, both were at the same university, so he killed that guy? They are saying he killed that guy, right? So he killed both that guy and the person at.

• 2:05:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. How many weird shootings are we up to now where there's all these weird details and we should shut up about it?

• 2:06:03Joe Rogan?

  That is a weird one.

• 2:06:05Speaker 02

  The guy that shot Trump's ear, remember that one? I guess we should forget about it.

• 2:06:08Joe Rogan?

  They both graduated in two, in two thousand. Contemporaries of the two men described the academic environment as emotionally grueling. Only one was willing to go on the record, but several others expressed similar opinions. He was described as brilliant and competitive, but willing to help his colleagues out. He finished top of his class with an average grade of nineteen out of twenty, unusually high score for Tecnico. Lorio, who was said to be an excellent student, but more easygoing than Valente, finished with an average grade of sixteen out of twenty. But which one's Lorio?

• 2:06:41Speaker 00

  Tecnico died, the MIT professor.

• 2:06:43Joe Rogan?

  Wow, so he was the less good student. So this guy was probably pissed at the less good students, that's why he whacked him.

• 2:06:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I'm sure that's why, not, not anything to do with plasma physics.

• 2:06:54Joe Rogan?

  Having known Claudio and having had a good relationship with him, we can't find any other explanation than a serious mental health problem exacerbated by resentment for not having achieved the academic career he dreamed of.

• 2:07:05Speaker 02

  Look at my jerk off motions I'm making while you say that.

• 2:07:08Joe Rogan?

  You don't believe it?

• 2:07:09Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:07:10Joe Rogan?

  You think it's, uh, MKUltra?

• 2:07:11Speaker 02

  Hey, what happened to the guy that blew his Tesla truck up and then they said he was mad because the kid wasn't his and it was a lie?

• 2:07:17Joe Rogan?

  What happened to that guy?

• 2:07:18Speaker 02

  I don't know, Sean Ryan.

• 2:07:19Joe Rogan?

  Went away quick.

• 2:07:20Speaker 02

  Remember Sean Ryan had the goods and we never heard about it again?

• 2:07:22Joe Rogan?

  Didn't Sean Ryan get a letter from the guy or something?

• 2:07:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, a letter of nonsense and then he said he had some kind, and we just never spoke about it again.

• 2:07:29Speaker 00

  I came up with that small, the, the Minnesota conspiracy too, because some, remember there was like a guy that killed someone? That voted in the...

• 2:07:38Speaker 02

  Yes, that's right, you're right about that.

• 2:07:40Speaker 00

  He had a letter I just was reading.

• 2:07:42Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 2:07:43Speaker 00

  It's fucking...

• 2:07:44Speaker 02

  You know what I saw when we were looking at that?

• 2:07:45Joe Rogan?

  The Minnesota one is nuts because the lady that was whacked was the one lady that didn't vote for healthcare.

• 2:07:51Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 2:07:51Joe Rogan?

  For the illegals.

• 2:07:52Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 2:07:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:07:53Joe Rogan?

  And she was, you ever see the speech that she gave, how terrified she was?

• 2:07:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:07:57Joe Rogan?

  When she gets, literally her voice was cracking, "I know some are going to be harmed by this."

• 2:08:03Speaker 02

  Uh, it reminded me of Charlie Kirk's final text messages about how they think they're, yo. The things that, we covered this on Jimmy's show, for three weeks before he died, they were all piling on him that he's an anti-Semi because he had Dave Smith on and fucking...

• 2:08:16Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:08:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is a... Laura Loomer, that piece of shit, she goes, "Why don't you admit you're an anti-Semite?" I don't think Charlie Kirk was an anti-Semite. He called it ethnic cleansing on, uh, Patrick Bet values show.

• 2:08:26Joe Rogan?

  Called what ethnic cleansing?

• 2:08:28Speaker 02

  Gaza.

• 2:08:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right.

• 2:08:29Speaker 02

  That's a big no-no, and then his funders...

• 2:08:31Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:08:32Speaker 02

  Were like, "Hey, what if you die, who's gonna take over?" That's the first thing they say to you when you come in?

• 2:08:36Joe Rogan?

  He also said, uh, "Was there a stand down?" "Was there a stand down order?" He talked about that on, on Patrick Bet David.

• 2:08:43Speaker 02

  I guess what, if you watch Israeli news, there was, it's called the Hannibal direct.

• 2:08:47Joe Rogan?

  Go back to that, Jamie, what were we pulling up, what were you showing us?

• 2:08:49Speaker 00

  So this is, it's typed out here obviously, but it says this is the handwritten original.

• 2:08:54Speaker 02

  Oh Lance Bolt, this maniac. Yeah.

• 2:08:58Speaker 00

  Trained, he said Tim Walz wanted this done.

• 2:09:01Speaker 02

  That's right, well, the, the.

• 2:09:03Joe Rogan?

  He says, Dear Cash Patel, my name is Dr. Vance Luther Bolter. Bolter, Ed, what is that, Ed, D, what is that?

• 2:09:11Speaker 00

  Uh, I think an education degree.

• 2:09:13Speaker 02

  Okay, I am the shooter at, at large in Minnesota, involved in the,

• 2:09:20Joe Rogan?

  it says something, shoe two shootings.

• 2:09:22Speaker 02

  Oh, look at that. I was trained by military people off the books, starting in college. That's a very common thing.

• 2:09:29Joe Rogan?

  I have been on projects since that time in Eastern Europe, North America, Middle East and Africa, all in the line of doing what I thought was right and in the best interests of the United States. Recently, I was approached about a project that Tim Walz wanted done and I, blank, blank, blank, and Keith, blank, blank, were also aware of the project. Tim wanted me to kill Amy Klobuchar and Tina, blank. Tim wants to be a senator and doesn't trust blank to retire as planned and thinks she is going to stay on at the last minute. With Amy blank gone, Tim would get one of the gen, gen senate seats and blank wants to be governor.

• 2:10:09Joe Rogan?

  And Keith Ellison, uh, spelling incorrect, would be rewarded with a lieutenant governor's position. I told Tim I wanted nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off that plan, I would go public. He said he would call it hurt my, he would call it hurt my family if I did, uh, S I C play ball. Uh, then he set up a meeting with me and Mel, blank, and blank, to talk about options when I, they had some people waiting to kill me. Okay, and what I did, I guess. Uh, I was able to get away by God's mercy, so I went back a short time later and shot both, at both blank and blank.

• 2:10:52Joe Rogan?

  You should notice how I didn't fire one round at any police officers and boy did I have plenty of opportunity. Asked for the report on how many weapons and ammunition I had with me. Cops were pulling up right next to me in their vehicles and I had an AK pistol aimed right at her head and I could have left a pile of cops dead, but I did shoot one bullet towards law enforcement. You can ask them. I think he says, "I did not." Yeah. You can ask them because I support the police and didn't want them hurt. They're hurting my wife and kids next time, I won't give them a pass. Okay. Then ask Tim Walz if he knows me and see what he says. If he says he doesn't know me or never met me, look in the files and you will see that

• 2:11:36Joe Rogan?

  Tim Walz personally appointed me as to be on his governor's workforce board as one of the business representatives. He is probably trying to destroy that info, but it's public record. Then ask Tim Walz why they kept the shots silent from the media when they first happened. Not a word in the press about it. Why? They needed to get their stories figured out first so everyone was on the same page about, in quotes, "what happened." Tim is probably crapping bricks right now because I'm still at large and he knows what I can do and that I know about where all the buried skeletons are. So I'll be at shot on sight. You can bet on that. I will be shot on sight. First of all, is this a legitimate letter that was sent to Cash Patel? Did this actually get sent?

• 2:12:21Joe Rogan?

  Is this true?

• 2:12:23Speaker 02

  Looks like it.

• 2:12:24Joe Rogan?

  No, but what do we know about this?

• 2:12:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is from, uh...

• 2:12:27Joe Rogan?

  This is not misinformation? Talk on the mic?

• 2:12:30Speaker 00

  No. I'm pretty, I'm, I'm, yeah, no.

• 2:12:32Joe Rogan?

  This is the actual letter he's, this crazy guy sent?

• 2:12:35Speaker 00

  He sent it to the FBI. Whether or not it's real, you know, it doesn't...

• 2:12:37Joe Rogan?

  Right. So here's the next question. Did this guy actually work for the governor's office? Did he actually work for Tim Walz?

• 2:12:49Joe Rogan?

  This is all the suspect details, what he did. Yeah, that's he's claiming it's like a secret. That's kinda what he was saying. Is he claiming it's secret, so?

• 2:12:57Speaker 02

  Well, he said something you could check, but by the way, this is a, a, a drop in the bucket of, there's a million stories like this.

• 2:13:03Joe Rogan?

  I wanna know if he's completely crazy, or if he never really worked with them, if he just made all this shit up. Right? Cause that is possible. The guy's out of his fucking mind. He shows up at someone's house with a mask on. He's clearly out of his fucking mind. Right?

• 2:13:15Speaker 02

  I mean, you'd be surprised what out of people, out of your mind people work with.

• 2:13:19Joe Rogan?

  That's true. That's true. But I mean, open mind. Right? The guy might have just been out of his fucking mind and never met Tim Walz. This, it could be total bullshit.

• 2:13:29Speaker 02

  I guess, I don't, I doubt it very much.

• 2:13:31Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 2:13:33Joe Rogan?

  Said the attack appears to be politically motivated assassination. This is what Tim Walz said. State officials and authorities early on Saturday encountered what appeared to be a police vehicle with emergency lights flashing in the driveway at Representative Melissa Hortman's house. Uh, officers at the home saw Boltler dressed as a police officer shoot an adult man through the open front door, according to a criminal complaint obtained obtained by the Minnesota Star Tribune. Suspect exchanged gunfire with police and ran into the house. So he's, they did exchange gunfire, according to this. Ultimately disappearing from the area, according to the complaint. We don't know if that's true. Um, Hortman, the top Democrat in the Minnesota House, and her husband were both killed at a nearby home.

• 2:14:18Joe Rogan?

  Senator State, Senator John Huffman and his wife were also shot, but are in stable condition after surgery.

• 2:14:28Joe Rogan?

  So, and that lady who got killed was the one lady who voted against it. And that, I sent you that, right Jamie?

• 2:14:35Speaker 02

  A long time ago you sent me that.

• 2:14:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that one's kinda crazy.

• 2:14:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, Vance Boltzer's a real weird.

• 2:14:41Joe Rogan?

  You see her talking about it.

• 2:14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, she looks a little bit, bit upset.

• 2:14:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's like super shaken up that she made that vote and, you know, she, she looked like legitimately nervous.

• 2:14:51Speaker 02

  Have you ever seen the guy from Utah, his last name's, I wanna say Ron Leaveit, his last name's Leaveit, and he's the DA that called the press conference to announce that he's not a satanic cannibal to get ahead of, and, and by the way, no one was accusing him of that, so people took it real weird. They were like, why would you fucking come out and say something like that?

• 2:15:12Joe Rogan?

  Tell me this, what is, why do some people not want to even consider the idea that someone was assassinated uh, at the behest of powerful people?

• 2:15:24Speaker 02

  Oh, cause they're programmed not to, that's why. It's called programming and it works.

• 2:15:28Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:15:28Speaker 02

  It's worked the whole time.

• 2:15:29Joe Rogan?

  They're programmed to think there's just one sick individual who commits these crimes and it has nothing to do with powerful people.

• 2:15:34Speaker 02

  How'd Jerry Sandusky get away with it? How did, how did they, look, think of the, the classic spotlight case, cause Barry Crimmins is a good friend of mine. I remember Barry fucking, I remember asking about shit. He goes, like, I wouldn't throw my, you know, I do real work with people, so if I just get behind a thing, I could cost my credibility, cause I have to like really help act. We went on tour and he, every town dude I met people that he helped navigate the fucked up legal system that sucks ass. Okay, it was like the, knowing the Equalizer from that show, The Equalizer. But there's also a side of Barry that was four years old forever. Okay, cause of what happened. That's what happens in trauma. A boy who freezes at that age.

• 2:16:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:14Speaker 02

  And uh, especially at four, that's like a split. You split and that's a real thing. They said it was debunked for quite some time, but I met some people with Barry and he had helped these girl, I can't remember where we were. I want to say it was Pennsylvania, but I might be wrong. But they uh, their dad was the mayor and they had repressed memories, they told me, and he helped them with all their legal shit. And I think they got some kind of justice, but I thought that was debunked. Epigenetics, it's called now, by the way. It's a legitimate thing. Uh, generational trauma around 20, whenever BLM happened, if you look in 2011, that's made up. There's no such thing. But all of a sudden around BLM times, general, generational trauma is real.

• 2:16:54Speaker 02

  It's called epigenetics. The reason it's called Project Monarch is because the monarch, the butterflies can genetically transfer information, like learned information, you know? And you'll see all that butterfly shit. King Charles has that butterfly on his shoulder in his weird meat picture. Right? He's got a little monarch on his shoulder.

• 2:17:11Joe Rogan?

  That's what that's about?

• 2:17:12Speaker 02

  Well, I think so. I mean, you don't gotta take my word for it. Consult your local library. Anyway, I got, I just finally got this in the mail, but I got you one.

• 2:17:21Joe Rogan?

  What is it?

• 2:17:22Speaker 02

  Mormon monarch, JR Sweet, and he explains a lot of shit about the Mormons and the program he was in. And uh, I fucking can't, yo, let me put it this way. If you ever wonder what was inside a Mount Shasta, uh, it ain't the Lemurians. Put it that way.

• 2:17:38Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what you just said.

• 2:17:40Speaker 02

  You know about Mount Shasta shit?

• 2:17:41Joe Rogan?

  I have no idea what you just went on the most off tangent, different, uh, if, if I had, if you just dragged me into the woods with that conversation, I would never get home.

• 2:17:49Speaker 02

  Okay, Monarch is the MKUltra continuation that we know happened. It got disclosed.

• 2:17:54Joe Rogan?

  What does that have to do with this Mormon thing?

• 2:17:56Speaker 02

  This guy was stuck in that.

• 2:17:57Joe Rogan?

  The LaMurians?

• 2:17:58Speaker 02

  Well, Mount Shasta was, we have a base in Mount Shasta, as you know. He has a whole chapter in there about going inside Mount Shasta.

• 2:18:03Joe Rogan?

  I didn't know that we have a base in Mount Shasta.

• 2:18:06Speaker 02

  You haven't heard of Shasta, like, just based on pure, like, UFO shit and Bigfoot shit? It's very famous.

• 2:18:12Joe Rogan?

  Probably, I, maybe I forgot it.

• 2:18:14Speaker 02

  The famous story, well, there's a story where a kid, like, uh, he got, his grandmother, they had bites on their neck when they woke up camping and the kid, he walked off with some-

• 2:18:23Joe Rogan?

  Like a vampire bite?

• 2:18:25Speaker 02

  They, they thought it was like a spider or something, but this little kid, he thought it was his grandmother and he said, he goes, "I like, I like her, his real grandma better than the mean grandma that took him and they made him shit on a sticky paper." And it came, dude, it's crazy. I thought you'd already heard this story from a guest.

• 2:18:41Joe Rogan?

  This is what he always does. He tells you something completely insane. He's like, "Oh, you don't know? You don't know?"

• 2:18:45Speaker 02

  Well, I learned shit off your show a lot.

• 2:18:48Joe Rogan?

  Shitting on- I probably thought he heard it here.

• 2:18:50Speaker 02

  I thought I did.

• 2:18:51Joe Rogan?

  He might have. You might have. So she, uh, he, he had a shit on something, a piece of paper?

• 2:18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, like, I think there's a-

• 2:18:58Joe Rogan?

  Like they wanted a sample?

• 2:18:59Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:19:00Joe Rogan?

  A poop sample?

• 2:19:01Speaker 02

  It's a famous Shasta. Shasta has so much, there's a lot of cults around Shasta.

• 2:19:05Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:19:06Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. It goes back, the, the history of it goes back a long way and a lot.

• 2:19:09Joe Rogan?

  Why do you think that is? You think they're doing, like, mental experiments in the town, on the town folk, with the military's doing things?

• 2:19:14Speaker 02

  Oh, something is there in the mountain already. I don't know exactly what it is, but something bad is already there.

• 2:19:20Joe Rogan?

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• 2:21:25Speaker 02

  Dude, I don't fucking know because.

• 2:21:28Joe Rogan?

  Or actual interdimensional creatures.

• 2:21:30Speaker 02

  So let's be the most conservative and say there was never a mass mind control thing and only a few rogue psychologists planted false memories in some people's heads. Right? That's what they say.

• 2:21:40Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:21:41Speaker 02

  Some bad psychologists planted fake memories of abuse in their heads. Now, you've already told me if you're saying that as the, the normal explanation. So it's possible to do that. So you're telling me I could, if I was a shitty psychiatrist and I had new hypnosis.

• 2:21:55Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:21:56Speaker 02

  I could make you think you went on a fucking secret mission to Mars and you would feel like it's real and I could say you were satanically abused and you would have those memories as if it really happened? So if that power is real, what are the odds that it was just a few psychologists or the United States fucking government? Cause I'm gonna bet on the government. Um, so there's no telling, dude, because if I can probe your-

• 2:22:18Joe Rogan?

  Those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive. Like, just because the government can put, like, satanic cult ideas into your head, it doesn't mean that you haven't had an experience with some sort of interdimensional or extraterrestrial entity-

• 2:22:30Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 2:22:31Joe Rogan?

  And that erased your memory.

• 2:22:32Speaker 02

  Hey, you don't gotta tell me and my dolphin wife about it.

• 2:22:34Joe Rogan?

  The problem is that hypnotic regression is like, you are open to suggestion, and you have to kind of listen to what these people are saying. The weird stuff is-

• 2:22:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:22:42Joe Rogan?

  The weird stuff is the people that didn't have hypnotic regression that have the same stories as the people with hypnotic regression. And it's from a long ass time ago.

• 2:22:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude.

• 2:22:50Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of weird ones.

• 2:22:52Speaker 02

  What about, um, okay, I got a great book by Michael Hoffman called The Twilight Language. The Twilight Language is in Buddhism, and it kind of refers to a coded language, but it's NLP.

• 2:23:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:23:02Speaker 02

  What is NLP? I want to talk into your subconscious. So when you see a pick-up artist, so that dipshit Andrew Tate, he had a nerd pick-up artist that was like his court wizard. The guy called himself Iggy Semmelweis? That's not his real name. He's some dork that would wear like Chinese shirts and a fedora. Yeah, yeah. And, and so Andrew Tate was a reality guy, and it wasn't taken off, then he gets this fucking hypnotist who used to be in the Rajneesh cult from Wild Wild Country, if you ever saw that.

• 2:23:30Joe Rogan?

  Yo, I love that show.

• 2:23:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, they left out the stuff done to kids, by the way, in that cult, strangely.

• 2:23:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they left that out in the documentary?

• 2:23:37Speaker 02

  They imply people were just fucking in the streets in the whatever this town was.

• 2:23:40Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 2:23:41Speaker 02

  They had kids, and if, if people are that loose with their sexuality in a hippie way there, what do you think happened with kids? Real bad stuff, and you can find those kids talking about it. Why it was left out, my guess is, is some liberal shit about, oh, this might support a QAnon, right? Remember when you had fucking rosacea fa-

• 2:24:01Joe Rogan?

  But the whole, the whole thing is so negative anyway.

• 2:24:04Speaker 02

  But we, we still have to keep you from believing that your leaders would do things like you've heard of Aztecs doing. Your white leaders would not do Aztec shit. That's just what, what cartels do and Africans.

• 2:24:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but in the documentary, they talk about how they poisoned the entire town.

• 2:24:20Speaker 02

  It's still not as bad as wholesale trafficking of children.

• 2:24:24Joe Rogan?

  So you think that was a part of that whole cult was wholesale trafficking?

• 2:24:28Speaker 02

  I believe 100% that was a part of it because if you got a sec- a weirdo cult like that with little kids.

• 2:24:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:24:33Speaker 02

  Guess who gets attracted to that?

• 2:24:35Joe Rogan?

  I know, I understand, but why would they ever leave something like that out of a documentary?

• 2:24:38Speaker 02

  Because the same reason Flint Dibble can't handle the idea that there was a civilization before. It might lead to Nazi, yeah, yeah, yeah, Rosacea. Like a little creep Flint Dibble. Do you understand how these people are? They think that you're not, but you might get the wrong idea and distrust authority if you think, so because they don't want to start a satanic panic, right? They will purposely deny shit like good liberals do. By the way, the conservative, if you're like, who cares about Epstein? What are you talking about, dude? Why would you say something like that?

• 2:25:11Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:25:12Speaker 02

  And people that I like say, have said it to me.

• 2:25:14Joe Rogan?

  They're not thinking.

• 2:25:15Speaker 02

  No, they're-

• 2:25:15Joe Rogan?

  They're just saying it.

• 2:25:16Speaker 02

  But I've heard the phrase-

• 2:25:17Joe Rogan?

  They hear it so much, it's like-

• 2:25:18Speaker 02

  Hypnosis.

• 2:25:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you think that's what it is?

• 2:25:21Speaker 02

  Dude, that's what TV, that's a scrying device, that fucking thing. You got a North Korea in your pocket.

• 2:25:25Joe Rogan?

  Maybe that's why I'm doing good lately, I'm not paying attention.

• 2:25:28Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, well, listen, if you, if you,

• 2:25:34Speaker 02

  I have to, because I don't have a bunch of money, so I gotta pay attention a little bit.

• 2:25:37Joe Rogan?

  Listen, I get it. I've, I've been there. It's just like, uh, I think you find out enough from your friends.

• 2:25:45Speaker 02

  You remember the thing you sent me?

• 2:25:46Joe Rogan?

  Which one?

• 2:25:47Speaker 02

  Okay, there's two things I don't want to forget. One is, uh, when, that stupid feminist who said there's no genetic difference.

• 2:25:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that one's amazing.

• 2:25:55Speaker 02

  Okay, so that couple, boy, that was a real fucking rabbit hole, those two.

• 2:25:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, I know.

• 2:26:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, that, that trad couple, the Collinses. So first of all, that feminist, if you watch the video, the feminist is saying absolute stupid shit. It's a little disingenuous. It reminds me of a Ben Shapiro arguing with a stupid college kid, but he won't argue with somebody who knows anything.

• 2:26:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:26:19Speaker 02

  It's clearly, they found this dumb bitch to put her out there. Because you could clear up the misconception in five seconds. Sweetie, no, no, I'm not saying somebody's better or worse. I'm just saying genetically, it's different just because you have a different color.

• 2:26:32Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they can find someone who's better. That's where I think you're wrong.

• 2:26:35Speaker 02

  Find what?

• 2:26:36Joe Rogan?

  Someone who's better at being a journalist. That's where I think you're wrong. I think so many of those people are like her, where they're just indoctrinated into this certain way of thinking and talking, and they just wouldn't even imagine saying there's genetic differences in the races. Because it's so probably, it's so Charles Murray. Right? It's so problematic. You can get cancelled for it. So they'll just spout out stuff that they haven't researched at all.

• 2:26:59Speaker 02

  The bottom line is, these two that are doing it, that are trad.

• 2:27:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, they're not trad.

• 2:27:03Speaker 02

  You know, they're some bizarre atheist, they're called techno puritans in their words.

• 2:27:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:09Speaker 02

  Some book they think is divinely inspired is a goddamn eugenicist book from the 1800s.

• 2:27:14Joe Rogan?

  What is that?

• 2:27:15Speaker 02

  Uh...

• 2:27:15Joe Rogan?

  What's the book?

• 2:27:17Speaker 02

  Let's get it.

• 2:27:18Joe Rogan?

  Jamie will find it.

• 2:27:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:19Joe Rogan?

  Jamie's on it. You can put your phone down.

• 2:27:21Speaker 02

  Nice. So fucking, I look up the guy who tweeted it, Catholic Z1 or whatever. For some reason, not to me, but my girlfriend, that guy's not Catholic. I don't know what the fuck he is. I think they gin that up to promote this gold of a video of an idiot they're talking to.

• 2:27:36Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:27:36Speaker 02

  The girl used to run something called, she used to manage Dialogue, which is called the Bilderberg of tech for Peter Thiel. The dude is a Collins, I don't know if you know the history of the Collins family, but he's gotta be that one, because that's a real important bloodline.

• 2:27:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's find out if he is. Otherwise, we're gonna get in trouble with him.

• 2:27:54Speaker 02

  Alright. I mean, techno puritan sounds a little New England to me.

• 2:27:57Joe Rogan?

  It does, but I mean, you're accusing him of being a part of a notorious family. That might not be true.

• 2:28:03Speaker 02

  I mean, okay, well, I think it's likely because why would you be hooked in with a secret invite only Bilderberg of tech group? Unless you were the secret of all these secret societies.

• 2:28:14Joe Rogan?

  Because they're billionaires, are they?

• 2:28:16Speaker 02

  Yo.

• 2:28:16Joe Rogan?

  Are they very wealthy tech people?

• 2:28:18Speaker 02

  Dude Duncan doesn't understand this.

• 2:28:20Joe Rogan?

  Or are they rich at all? Do you know?

• 2:28:21Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, they're, yeah, the guy's a venture capitalist. You know, the people that make everything good.

• 2:28:26Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:28:26Speaker 02

  You know why the doors fall off the planes because of those fucking people? So he's that. They're atheists, but oh, do you know what they believe in the future? An AI is God.

• 2:28:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's my religion.

• 2:28:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's, uh, it's called Luciferianism. I don't know if you know that.

• 2:28:44Joe Rogan?

  I don't really believe that, folks.

• 2:28:46Speaker 02

  Well.

• 2:28:46Joe Rogan?

  Get it together. I think God was already here.

• 2:28:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would say it's likely that it already was, but these maniacs think they're gonna make a God.

• 2:28:55Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm, right.

• 2:28:56Speaker 02

  And I understand what they're saying as far as, you know, if let's say 10 years in the future, they create that AI that is like that. Dude, that means it has always happened. You can't think in past or future terms. Okay? So you know, they go, are aliens us from the future? Well, maybe they're us from the past. That doesn't, you gotta think of it as points in space and not nothing with the timeline. Cause that's not really how time works, as you know, right?

• 2:29:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:29:19Speaker 02

  So dinosaurs, they lived 150, whatever, million years ago. Think of it as just like miles away instead of time. Because that really, if you're a 5D, you know, you they go three spatial, one time dimension, the fourth dimension. If you're the fifth one, which would be the one above that, that you don't think about it that way at all. Okay? So if at some point in the, in the timeline, somebody invented that, that it has always happened.

• 2:29:44Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:29:44Speaker 02

  You understand? So then a lot of these tech freaks who are like, the things they're into are so crazy, but they believe shit like Kabala and memes and shit are being sent backwards in time.

• 2:29:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the Kabala is a weird one. A really smart friend of mine gave me that to read. I was like, okay.

• 2:30:01Speaker 02

  Oh, well, it's a mind control method. All these things, all the symbols, they're, they're overlays for your fucking brain. Okay? So you ever watch, uh, oh, Stranger Things you brought up?

• 2:30:11Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:30:12Speaker 02

  So that's based on the Montage.

• 2:30:14Joe Rogan?

  Did you know Will's gay?

• 2:30:15Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:30:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:18Speaker 02

  I didn't know any of them were...

• 2:30:19Joe Rogan?

  I told everybody they all wept.

• 2:30:20Speaker 02

  Okay, I didn't believe any of them were straight the whole time. I thought... I assume anybody under 30 is gay.

• 2:30:26Joe Rogan?

  Okay, what does it say? Related through Malk... uh, related through Malcolm to Dallas's prominent Collins family.

• 2:30:32Speaker 02

  Oh, he's that kinda Collins.

• 2:30:33Joe Rogan?

  The late Jim Collins was Malcolm... you are right. Um, Malcolm's grandfather, Simone, 29, and Malcolm, 30, are intent on acquiring an established company using what's called the search fund model.

• 2:30:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was just trying to get that point about that.

• 2:30:47Joe Rogan?

  Got. They are related. They are related to a famous Collins family.

• 2:30:50Speaker 02

  So Nick Land, if you ever heard of Nick Land, they always make... so he's supposedly the tech fucking slopper.

• 2:30:56Joe Rogan?

  So, get to this, these people, so, when they're having that conversation with that lady.

• 2:31:01Speaker 02

  They found an idiot so they could display that and then push a trad lifestyle even though they're atheists, that a fake Catholic is putting on Twitter and it's going viral. That's how you fake these things.

• 2:31:11Joe Rogan?

  Right, or someone saw the clip and it appears that a young couple's defending a trad lifestyle and they just projected that. That's all possible too, right? Because that's how a lot of people saw the clip without context, without knowing the background of those people. If you were someone who was into... you have, but if you were someone like me, I'd never seen it before.

• 2:31:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, right.

• 2:31:34Joe Rogan?

  And if you were someone that saw that. They're founders of pronatalist.org, a nonprofit initiative aimed at promoting and supporting high birth rates. Collins's fear that low fertility rates, especially among people they view as high achieving, could lead to a decline in innovation and societal progress, as well as the extinction of cultures, economic breakdown, and the collapse of civilization. They are part of a network of self-styled elites that include billionaires Elon Musk who, uh, billionaire Elon Musk who publicly expresses concerns about demographic trends leading to population collapse. They've been featured in discussions. So what does it say about their wacky belief about technology? Cause that's on here, right?

• 2:32:18Speaker 02

  I think I found it on a...

• 2:32:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, go back to that image real quick, that article rather. This is a weird one. So the Collinses are vocal supporters of using advanced reproductive technologies, including in vitro fertilization and genetic screening to promote higher birth rates and advocate for selecting embryos based on perceived desirable traits such as high IQ. Collins's views have been criticized as promoting eugenics. Hmm.

• 2:32:48Speaker 02

  Which, by the way, it is. That's what CRISPR is for, is eugenics. Eugenics came from America, not Nazi Germany. That's, we were the leaders in it.

• 2:32:57Joe Rogan?

  America invented it.

• 2:32:58Speaker 02

  Back when we were doing the Sig Hjul is a flag salute, that's when Eugenics came out.

• 2:33:02Joe Rogan?

  Right, isn't that crazy?

• 2:33:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, a socialist came up with it, the Bellamy salute, which was a Sig Hjul. We stopped doing it because it was off.

• 2:33:08Joe Rogan?

  We stopped doing it because of the Nazis. Yeah, but that's how they used to pledge of allegiance. They used to do it arm out.

• 2:33:14Speaker 02

  Religious beliefs. In 2024, the Collinses stated they were atheists, although at the time they were promulgating a theological worldview they called techno-puritanism, which they described as an intentionally constructed religion, technically atheist. Oh, that sounds great. I'd like some nerds to tell me what God is. Thank you.

• 2:33:33Joe Rogan?

  Technically atheist.

• 2:33:34Speaker 02

  However, by 2025, they stated that the belief that God is a real entity that actually exists at a different point in time is just so core to our worldview. So all of them believe in AI God, which is technically more Araman than Lucifer, I guess.

• 2:33:49Joe Rogan?

  What's Araman?

• 2:33:51Speaker 02

  That's the one from Zoroastrianism and the tech. It's like, uh, heavy materialism, like there's nothing but the material, which you know these people that are like that, and, and people have built a fucking, it's so gay. I'm not saying that as a slur for lame, I want to make that clear, but it is also lame. It's both gay and lame. And so it's all about breeding and all these weird. From what I can tell, trying to piece together what the big players are in the because you know, the deep state and shadow government is not just one team. These are scumbag eugenicists. So everybody's competing and trying to backbite each other, just like in real life, right? And so there appears to be like a left hand, just left hand path and right hand path.

• 2:34:37Speaker 02

  But that's all fucking Lucifer fucking Kabbalah bullshit. All of it is the same bullshit.

• 2:34:41Joe Rogan?

  That's Lucifer Kabbalah bullshit that they think that low birth rates are contributing to collapse of civilization?

• 2:34:47Speaker 02

  Well, the low birth rate thing is a thing, you know, China any minute now is going to collapse because they don't have immigrants, right? China, oh, and remember they're elderly, they're going to have all these elderly and what are they going to do with them because there's not enough young people to take care of them? Oh, COVID came along. I bet every country was involved in their own soft kill to ease their population. That's what I think happened because I know the one that hit us wasn't from Wuhan, it was from Raleigh.

• 2:35:14Joe Rogan?

  Hold on, so do you think that contributed to the decision to bring COVID positive people back into nursing homes?

• 2:35:21Speaker 02

  Oh, in New York, when Cuomo did?

• 2:35:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:24Speaker 02

  Well, I don't, that guy's such a psychopath, who the fuck knows? I mean, he probably, it's as easy a guess as he doesn't care or he's in a generational fucking cult, either one could be. It was, it was foul what they did, dude. And it's, it's just what always happens and everybody moves along and forgets it. What are you still talking about that? Move on.

• 2:35:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they brought COVID positive people back into nursing homes.

• 2:35:47Speaker 02

  You remember in M I B, the blinky light thing that makes you forget that you saw aliens? Okay, I have a very bad feeling, Joe, that that is not some kind of exotic technology. I think it may literally just be a blinky light.

• 2:36:00Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:36:01Speaker 02

  I just got to blink some fucking lights in your eyes and say some bullshit and that's all it takes to have a matrix. Don't need a fancy computer. I could just put you in a house of cards of lies and I did it with my, I didn't need no tech to do it. That's the old ways, right? And now the tech fucks, the next generation of, by the way, Collins, what the, the family, if you ever saw Johnny Depp made a remake of it with the, he's a vampire, Barnabas Collins.

• 2:36:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:36:25Speaker 02

  Dark Shadows.

• 2:36:26Joe Rogan?

  Dark Shadows. Yeah.

• 2:36:27Speaker 02

  The seventies one.

• 2:36:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:36:28Speaker 02

  That's about a real family. They were the, their, their supposed claim to fame was being the first warlocks or some shit in America with the Puritans.

• 2:36:34Joe Rogan?

  Those were supposedly Americans? I thought Barnabas Coll, I thought that was a English show.

• 2:36:38Speaker 02

  He was in, yeah, but he was in New England. They're an old bloodline family and they came over and they were, you know, all these families.

• 2:36:44Joe Rogan?

  Shadows. God, I forgot about that show. So that show, was it supposed to be taking place in New England? That's where it's supposed to be taking place? What? That's the same family?

• 2:36:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:55Joe Rogan?

  As the other Collins?

• 2:36:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's about them.

• 2:36:57Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:36:58Speaker 02

  Yo, these are important families. By the way.

• 2:37:00Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit, dude. Are you sure about that? Cause that sounds crazy.

• 2:37:04Speaker 02

  Uh, I mean, hey, double check me with, uh, Jesus AI, but I think I'm right.

• 2:37:12Joe Rogan?

  We gotta double check that.

• 2:37:13Speaker 02

  Royalty, bloodline royalty.

• 2:37:15Joe Rogan?

  If Dark Shadows was based on that Collins family, that is crazy.

• 2:37:20Speaker 02

  I, I'm fairly sure it was based on the real Collins family. Cause there's, there's very specific names.

• 2:37:25Joe Rogan?

  Barnabas Collins.

• 2:37:26Speaker 02

  Reynolds, Collins, Kennedy, something. By the way, the bootlegger thing, I don't think that's true. I don't think that was their dad at all. I think people are confusing.

• 2:37:34Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:37:34Speaker 02

  I just saw a guy who wrote a whole book about it. It's another Joe Kennedy. It wasn't a dad.

• 2:37:38Joe Rogan?

  Read that too. I had read that it was a fact and that they had tried to hide it.

• 2:37:43Speaker 02

  It's not true.

• 2:37:43Joe Rogan?

  And then I'd read that it wasn't true.

• 2:37:45Speaker 02

  But the bottom line is if you're, so all these stupid.

• 2:37:48Joe Rogan?

  Was true is their connection with the mob.

• 2:37:50Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, of course.

• 2:37:53Joe Rogan?

  No, Barnabas Collins is not based on a real person. He's an fictional vampire character created for the Gothic soap opera Dark Shadows, which aired from nineteen sixty-six to nineteen seventy-one, introduced to boost declining ratings. The character portrayed by Jonathan Frid quickly became the show's star after an unplanned extension from a thirteen week arc. Oh, so he wasn't the star initially. The character's backstory draws from a classic vampire lore, direct nods to Bram Stoker's Dracula as the primary influence. Bro, I watched a crazy documentary.

• 2:38:25Speaker 02

  Rumors. You see what I said?

• 2:38:26Joe Rogan?

  I watched a crazy documentary the other night on YouTube about the, um, Vlad Tepes, the original Vlad, the Impaler, about how he became who he. Became, holy shit, man. They were caught like Romania and the Ottomans. And when the, when his, the king had to give up his two sons.

• 2:38:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:38:49Joe Rogan?

  And so his two sons had to go live with the Ottomans for like seven years.

• 2:38:52Speaker 02

  Pretty bad what they did to him.

• 2:38:53Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit. And so he came back a complete fucking psychopath.

• 2:38:58Speaker 02

  It's, it's very similar to how you would trauma train a kid in an MK program. That's his ancient shit.

• 2:39:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you, certainly if you want to get that result, that's the way to do it. Like completely traumatize the kid for seven years.

• 2:39:10Speaker 02

  I probably do.

• 2:39:11Joe Rogan?

  Separating from his family and turn him into a fucking monster. The, what they did was like set rows of bodies for like kilometers on stakes.

• 2:39:21Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:39:22Joe Rogan?

  At like a perfect geometric distance from each other. They created star, it's like shapes that you could see from above. When you'd look down, you'd see a star of dead people.

• 2:39:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's the son of the dragon. When you hear dragon, yo, when you hear dragon imagery, the new one, did you watch the new one, uh, Nosferatu?

• 2:39:39Joe Rogan?

  Yes, I did.

• 2:39:41Speaker 02

  So they.

• 2:39:41Joe Rogan?

  Fucking great. I loved it.

• 2:39:42Speaker 02

  And he, I, I liked it. I thought it was weird, the amount of weird necrophilia shit in it, but that's because that dude, Eggers, was looking into real occult shit. So that was like a fucking, the Solomancy school.

• 2:39:55Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. I think it's the best vampire movie ever. That's what I think.

• 2:39:59Speaker 02

  It was just very odd to throw in that the guy, his friend at the end, like necrophile his wife and that's what they're implying a hundred percent. And the reason Nosferatu is bothering her is because she used to ask, she had some psychic shit and used to fuck around with him as a team.

• 2:40:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:40:16Speaker 02

  And, and so right there in the story, same thing in Stranger Things, remember Eleven?

• 2:40:20Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:40:21Speaker 02

  So there, Montalk was a program that they had. They're cutting out the real fucked up parts that are very similar to Dracula's childhood. In particular, the fucking sexual trauma that they have to inflict on a child. That's, that's always left out of the super soldier thing.

• 2:40:35Joe Rogan?

  And the idea is that sexual trauma allows them to have this ability to shut off their past.

• 2:40:41Speaker 02

  Well, Joseph Mengele, who America saved, saved his life to get his great restart, he, remember? obsessed with twins.

• 2:40:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:40:48Speaker 02

  John Lilly was into that too because psychic, there were connections and all. So fucking, uh, they found the amount to torture someone until they go in the fetal position. That means they're broken. If you do it young enough to a kid and there's fucking gross kinda cults out there that have done that. You've heard of certain calls to do it. Every cult you hear about, like NXIVM, right?

• 2:41:09Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:41:10Speaker 02

  There's always a circle within a circle, right? And a lot of people say every cult becomes a sex cult. Uh, but that's not necessarily true. Aaron, my friend from, uh, he has a great channel, Growing Up Scientology. And he pointed out, he goes, you know, Scientology did not become a sex cult, even though that shit clearly happened in it. The cult wasn't like NXIVM where it's like, you gotta give me a blowjob.

• 2:41:30Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:41:30Speaker 02

  But why? And I was like, oh, I couldn't figure it out. And James McCann explained it to me. James McCann goes, oh, that's how you become a real religion. If you can keep your cult from becoming a sex cult long enough. You can become a religion. That's why it didn't become a sex cult. There'll be time for vicious sexual assault. Once you get that tax exemption. But you just gotta hold it together.

• 2:41:51Joe Rogan?

  McCann's a fucking smart guy, man.

• 2:41:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love talking to him, dude.

• 2:41:54Joe Rogan?

  I really love talking to him too. I can't believe he's.

• 2:41:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:41:58Joe Rogan?

  He's going back to Australia in a couple of days.

• 2:41:59Speaker 02

  I know. Well, he's throwing it all away.

• 2:42:01Joe Rogan?

  We'll get him back.

• 2:42:02Speaker 02

  I mean, Australia.

• 2:42:03Joe Rogan?

  He thinks he'll be back within a year.

• 2:42:04Speaker 02

  Dude, what a cage Australia is. But they gave up, after the first government run mass shooting, they gave up their guns. What a bunch of punks.

• 2:42:12Joe Rogan?

  They fucked up. They thought they were doing the right thing.

• 2:42:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:42:15Joe Rogan?

  They fucked up and now their government is just locking them up for anything they want.

• 2:42:18Speaker 02

  Well, they're still subject to the crown. And so a lot of these creepy things, by the way, when you see that dragon shit. You know, like Arthur Pen Dragon.

• 2:42:27Joe Rogan?

  We talked about.

• 2:42:28Speaker 02

  The legend of Arthur in England, right? His last name's Dragon.

• 2:42:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 2:42:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, Arthur Pen Dragon.

• 2:42:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay, right.

• 2:42:35Speaker 02

  Uh, if you go to the city of London, which is that weird, uh, like Vatican like separate part of London. That the king has to ask permission and they have a, a giant called Gogmagog that's there.

• 2:42:48Speaker 02

  When they do, you know how creepy the city of London is? It's run by a bunch of guilds. Real dark shit. Whenever you see that dragon logo dude, these are people that think they have fucking, like dragon blood dude. I'm not, I don't think that. I think they're just inbred, okay? I want to make it clear, that's not what I think, but these people say that. So when you hear like-

• 2:43:08Joe Rogan?

  Like Charlie Sheen? Tiger blood?

• 2:43:10Speaker 02

  Well Charlie Sheen used to say he was a Vatican assassin all the time, right? Remember that?

• 2:43:14Joe Rogan?

  That's the crack talking.

• 2:43:16Speaker 02

  Sure, sure. It sure is, but I never heard that phrase. I was like, what the fuck is that? What is a Vatican assassin? I mean, Dan Brown was around, but he wasn't even, he had open say, well, if you watch the, the, uh, the Cleansed documentary, the limited hangout Charlie Sheen thing where clearly, they're not telling you the half of it, obviously, okay? And he goes, "Well, I just did so much coke and I fucked so much pussy, I had to try dudes", you know, like you flip the menu. I don't think that's true. And the reason I don't think it's true is because in the beginning they say, his parents walked around naked in front of him till he was five. He's, he's not the oldest kid either, so there's some kind of inappropriateness early, and I know they're Catholic and

• 2:43:57Speaker 02

  probably some Jesuit shit in there because people that stay movie stars that long, uh, I would bet they have some connection, just like modern art was from the CIA. I'll bet your George Clooney's and Tom Hanks have a deep fucking connection. And that's why George Clooney is a billionaire from tequila. And that's why Diddy got mad, "Why is George Clooney a billionaire? I'm a fucking asset, why do I get blah blah?"

• 2:44:18Joe Rogan?

  That's what he said? I'm an asset?

• 2:44:21Speaker 02

  I'm just, I'm, I'm wildly speculating that he said. But I think I'm right. So, he went against Diageo, which is a British company, it's not Italian, some made up name. He bit the hand that fed him because he didn't own fucking, uh, Ciroc. I think the Illuminati is like Ciroc. I think it was a bigger thing at one time, but now it's mostly for black people.

• 2:44:46Joe Rogan?

  Alright, Kirk, we're wrapping it up with that. Thanks, brother. It was very fun.

• 2:44:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 2:44:51Joe Rogan?

  You around tonight?

• 2:44:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know it.

• 2:44:53Joe Rogan?

  Let's rock and roll.

• 2:44:54Speaker 02

  Right?

• 2:44:56Joe Rogan?

  It was a lot of fun. Thank you, as always. Bye, everybody.

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