Encounters x352 - True Haunted House Stories | Demons, Mimics & Shadow People

This spooky season, we’re going back to our haunted house roots. We’re talking homes with demonic residents, supernatural mold, door banging spirits, a call to Lorraine Warren and a locked crawlspace that probably should have stayed locked. Stories include: A news anchor investigating alleged satanic activity finds himself facing a terrifying figure in the mirror before calling Lorraine Warren for help. After a terrifying series of supernatural events, a mother takes matters into her own hands and has a full-blown DIY house exorcism. A childhood haunted house produces strange voices, mimic activity, and a possible glimpse into an alternate timeline. A teenager opens a locked door in a basement crawlspace and appears to unleash an entity that follows her family with increasingly disturbing activity. A shadow child reaches a hand underneath a locked bedroom door before the family discovers a horrifying surprise inside the house after they move out. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan. Original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:52Corinne Vien?

  Welcome back.

• 1:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Welcome into our freak show tent, where this October, this spooky season, we're telling you your fate.

• 2:02Corinne Vien?

  And the fortune says, you will live or die in a haunted house.

• 2:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're gonna die.

• 2:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, guess what? Fun fact, everyone's gonna die.

• 2:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's true. I was upset with you for just one moment, telling everyone that they were about to die. I'm like, wow, way to instill fear and panic.

• 2:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's just eventually, you shall.

• 2:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, everyone dies and...

• 2:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And everyone poops.

• 2:30Corinne Vien?

  And that is exactly what this podcast is about.

• 2:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that's how the world goes round.

• 2:34Corinne Vien?

  This is two girls, one ghost.

• 2:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girls, one ghost. We are your ghostesses. That is Corinne.

• 2:40Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm Sabrina. And shockingly, I'm not the one with sons. I just have a childlike sense of brain.

• 2:49Corinne Vien?

  I haven't really gotten into the like poop and fart funny genre yet with my child.

• 2:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think Noe just got to a place where she likes poop jokes.

• 3:02Corinne Vien?

  That I can't wait for.

• 3:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's something so fun about it.

• 3:05Corinne Vien?

  Like, I think it's fun, too.

• 3:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, lowbrow, but it's, it always, it always hits.

• 3:10Corinne Vien?

  But there's not gonna be much humor in this episode because we have a theme.

• 3:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We do.

• 3:15Corinne Vien?

  And we're kind of going back to our roots here.

• 3:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Haunted.

• 3:18Corinne Vien?

  House.

• 3:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's how we became friends. Because we grew up in haunted houses, and that was your fun fact. And I'm so frickin' excited about this first story.

• 3:27Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, okay.

• 3:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 3:29Corinne Vien?

  Then start!

• 3:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The subject line is, "The Time Lorraine Warren Saved My Family Friend From Being Possessed By A Demon." Is that not?

• 3:37Corinne Vien?

  How many people can say that sentence?

• 3:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right?

• 3:40Corinne Vien?

  That's, wow.

• 3:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I saw this come in, and I was like, snagged, that's mine. And I will admit, it's tangentially haunted house related, but it is haunted house related in many ways.

• 3:52Corinne Vien?

  It's enough.

• 3:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's enough.

• 3:54Corinne Vien?

  You are enough.

• 3:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can be whatever you want to be, we'll still love you.

• 3:58Corinne Vien?

  And even if we create a theme, we don't always do.

• 4:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's enough related, he gets haunted in his house.

• 4:05Corinne Vien?

  The word haunted house was in the email somewhere. And so therefore, it shall be read.

• 4:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The person experiences hauntings in their home because of something they did.

• 4:13Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 4:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, there we go. Anyway, it's our podcast, we can do whatever we want.

• 4:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey there, fellow spooky New England gals. My name is Jenna, she/her, and I've been listening to the podcast since late 2018, early 2019, early days. While I've been a huge fan for the past seven years, this is my first time writing in because I just never felt I had a good enough story to share. However, that all changed this past summer when my good family friend shared an absolutely insane story with me that I just had to share with you, and I have permission to share this story. But names have been changed of the person involved for anonymity.

• 4:51Corinne Vien?

  This is like the only type of social interaction I want right now, you know?

• 4:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You and I dressed up as clowns in a...

• 4:56Corinne Vien?

  Well, just like, only receiving cool, interesting ghost stories.

• 5:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 5:00Corinne Vien?

  Otherwise, like, what is there to say? Do we have to conversate?

• 5:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 5:05Corinne Vien?

  It's not worth it.

• 5:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And most likely, we probably aren't. Although I've been quite social.

• 5:10Corinne Vien?

  You have, you're, you are...

• 5:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I said, who is she?

• 5:13Corinne Vien?

  Running around?

• 5:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm possessed by someone that is not me.

• 5:16Corinne Vien?

  Happy hours, social life in Boston, thriving.

• 5:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sleeping for three hours a night, that's it? Summer ween.

• 5:25Corinne Vien?

  Okay. Sabrina had a penis show up in her, in whatever. We're recording this in June, and in one of our aura photos, Sabrina had a light that looked a lot like a penis. And you said, that looks like a penis. And I was like, is this what summer ween is actually meant to mean?

• 5:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, there's a double entanglement there.

• 5:43Corinne Vien?

  So now we're calling Sabrina Summer, Summer ween.

• 5:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, forget hot girl summer, celebrate summer ween.

• 5:49Corinne Vien?

  It's summer ween.

• 5:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's summer ween. And now it's Halloween.

• 5:52Corinne Vien?

  And now you guys are in on our joke.

• 5:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 5:54Corinne Vien?

  From three months ago, by the time you hear this.

• 5:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See? We're toddlers. We're little boys. Okay, back to the story. Jenna says, "I grew up in Connecticut, and my family was really good friends with this other family who lived in our neighborhood. The dad of this family was a news anchor. We will call him Ben, for the sake of this story. This story centers around him. Back when Ben was working for a local Connecticut news channel, he was investigating a story about reports of satanic activity in Bridgeport, Connecticut. According to Ben, the reports..."

• 6:27Corinne Vien?

  This is one of the things I forget that people who have these careers have to deal with. Like, you're a police officer, like, I think of so many different things that you're attending to.

• 6:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But hauntings might be one, too.

• 6:37Corinne Vien?

  Hauntings?

• 6:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Satanic activity. According to Ben, the reports he was looking into were very dark. They involved sacrificed animals, strange symbols, and even stolen human remains.

• 6:49Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 6:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And as he was looking into it, it really started to take a toll on him. He found himself unable to sleep at night, constantly on edge, starting to get angry. And his family even started to hear unexplained noises throughout the house, haunted house. Eventually, as part of his reporting, he got to do a TV interview with the Lorraine Warren about her thoughts on the rituals that he was investigating. The interview went well, and ultimately, nothing really came of the story from a news perspective. It just felt like a lot of satanic panic and misunderstanding of witchcraft. But that's not the point. Anyway, after the interview, Lorraine told Ben that he was a kind and gentle soul, but that he had to be extra careful while investigating this darker side of the world

• 7:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  because spirits were likely to target him and want to take advantage of his kindness. Ben mentioned all the strange things that had been going on in his life since he started reporting on this story. And Lorraine immediately gave him her phone number and said to contact her if things got worse. A few nights after he had conducted this interview, Ben was awoken in the middle of the night, feeling half awake, but almost in a state of sleep paralysis. But he was able to move slightly. Eventually, he got up from bed and went into the bathroom, where he saw something move out of the corner of his eye. He turned around quickly to face the mirror where he had seen the movement. But instead of seeing himself in the mirror, there was something else looking back at him. He saw his own body, but where his head should have been,

• 8:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  there was a dark being with glowing red eyes and horns. Ben was transfixed, but after a moment was able to snap out of it and ran back to bed where he eventually fell asleep. How he was able to fall back to sleep after that, I have no idea. Probably terror. The next morning, Ben called Lorraine, and she set up a priest to come by and bless the house. After the blessing, he stopped working on that story and never noticed anything negative in the house again. Wow, lucky that it worked so quickly. But yeah, this story...

• 8:48Corinne Vien?

  That's maybe the most shocking part of this whole story. Something actually worked.

• 8:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Immediately? Maybe they got in quick enough. This story was told to me this past summer, probably about 15 years after the events described took place, and I was shocked. I had spent so much of my time as a kid in that house and obviously never noticed anything strange, probably because they took care of it quickly. But it was amazing that Ben had never shared this story before.

• 9:12Corinne Vien?

  This is like some of that lore that, like, I wonder if the parents were like, okay, let's not share this thing. Because what if we want to sell this house? There's all of those thoughts, but I'm like, this is the most amazing lore that this house could have. Like, if I were house hunting?

• 9:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How cool.

• 9:26Corinne Vien?

  Give me the house. Choose me.

• 9:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Choose me, house, choose me. He was very clearly shaken up when he did tell me about it eventually. It's clear he doesn't like to talk about it. But yeah, that's Ben's story, and I do have a quick fun fact about my own connection to Lorraine Warren. I attended the same high school that she went to. It was an all-girls Catholic high school in an old mansion that was definitely haunted. We were always told that when Lorraine went there, she only stayed for a year or two because she was so deeply affected by the spirits at the school that she wasn't able to focus on her studies.

• 9:58Corinne Vien?

  It did make me wonder, too, knowing that when she went in, did the whole thing, and it worked right away. It makes me curious if there's kind of like a crew of spirits that sometimes would accompany her. And we're just like... Roll out.

• 10:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, clean the house.

• 10:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Get to work. Or there's a group of spirits who know Lorraine and they're like, I don't want to deal with her again.

• 10:20Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god.

• 10:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alright, I'll leave.

• 10:21Corinne Vien?

  Let's go to the next door neighbor's house.

• 10:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And then she said, I don't know how true all of this was, but what I do know for certain is that Lorraine would come to our school to do talks around Halloween. But she would only ever come back if she had a priest with her and she always avoided the basement at our school.

• 10:38Corinne Vien?

  Interesting.

• 10:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hope you enjoyed.

• 10:41Corinne Vien?

  Reputation where you don't even have to say anything, but just making small choices and actions starts huge rumors.

• 10:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hugs, Jenna. And I know that Lorraine Warren has her problems and the Warrens in general had their issues.

• 10:54Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, we've talked about it on a previous episode, but it's also hard because we've got like a thousand episodes out, so most people probably didn't even hear that one.

• 11:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then also still the infamy they have in the paranormal space and like to have this connection.

• 11:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 11:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she did some good here and helped protect Ben and his family from the weird things they were experiencing and clearly something demonic. Replacing his face in the mirror.

• 11:15Corinne Vien?

  Messed up.

• 11:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Horrifying. That's very American Horror Story.

• 11:18Corinne Vien?

  It truly is. Oh, American Horror Story, that was one of the, my favorite episodes to research. American Horror Story, the set and multiple seasons had a bunch of different hauntings and we did cover it a year or two ago.

• 11:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Probably. It was mostly about the New Orleans season, right? The witches?

• 11:34Corinne Vien?

  Um, yeah, the majority of the hauntings happened there, but some of the other, yes. Can't wait.

• 11:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It'll be haunted again and so maybe we'll have a part two. How cool would it be if we could interview some of the people from the show?

• 11:47Corinne Vien?

  That would be amazing.

• 11:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Did I ever tell you, back when MySpace was a thing, I told everyone that Emma Roberts and I were friends because I commented on her MySpace page and she responded. So it's like, Emma Roberts and I are friends.

• 12:01Corinne Vien?

  I don't think it even crossed my mind that you could find celebrities on MySpace.

• 12:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, and I did. And I'm best friends with Emma Roberts now.

• 12:09Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. Oh, I had no idea.

• 12:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My sister was like, it was probably her assistant.

• 12:16Corinne Vien?

  Do you remember when Aaron Carter randomly started following a bunch of us at LMU?

• 12:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I do not remember that.

• 12:20Corinne Vien?

  I still don't know why that happened.

• 12:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's very weird.

• 12:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I got an Aaron Carter follow. It's like, hello, have we met?

• 12:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Interesting. He was just like on campus and it was like people you might know and he just.

• 12:31Corinne Vien?

  It must have been, walking through our campus like, dude, it's like us and all the people we've.

• 12:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true. We follow a lot of people.

• 12:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 12:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's how we tried to get you to follow us back.

• 12:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, back in the day before there was real social strategy out there.

• 12:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It worked for us.

• 12:47Corinne Vien?

  I guess it did.

• 12:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Look at us now, nine years later. Toss just some toss.

• 12:51Corinne Vien?

  Two little clowns.

• 12:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Clowning around.

• 12:54Corinne Vien?

  It has been requested that I take off my makeup by my child who was scared of me in the kitchen just 15 minutes ago.

• 13:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Poor Noah. If only he knows what else is coming.

• 13:03Corinne Vien?

  I literally said to him, I was like, I have like fed you dressed as Shrek. This should not be shocking to you at all.

• 13:11Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I have a story called, I think I have something attached to me since childhood.

• 13:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So sorry.

• 13:16Corinne Vien?

  Hello, ghosties. I recently discovered your podcast. I've been obsessed and have been binging episode after episode. My boyfriend's very tired of me yapping about it.

• 13:27Corinne Vien?

  Anyway, I'll start yapping and I'll get straight to the point. I genuinely don't know if I've had something attached to me my whole life or if I've just spent years around places filled with grief and trauma and fear. But either way, I can't stop thinking about it. For privacy, I would like to go by E. I'm 20. I grew up between Florida and Alabama. And most of my childhood was spent bouncing between my dad's side of the family and my mom's side. And both had very different beliefs when it came to the paranormal. My dad's side, deeply Catholic, but they also fully believed in spirits and reincarnation and demonic presences and bruharia. And growing up there, it was definitely some rooms in my cousin's house that we weren't allowed in because he was heavily involved in witchcraft.

• 14:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have questions. Are we to learn more about this?

• 14:13Corinne Vien?

  My abuela would literally make us stay in our rooms while certain visitors came over. One man in particular, they called the voodoo man. We weren't allowed to look at him. We weren't allowed to talk to him. We weren't allowed to ask him questions.

• 14:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I have so many.

• 14:27Corinne Vien?

  This is so scary. Like imagine being like, someone's coming over and you just lock yourself in your room and don't look at them, don't speak of them, pretend that they're not here.

• 14:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's what I did when my mom had men over, but like, this is a very different experience.

• 14:41Corinne Vien?

  And instructed you to do that.

• 14:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I did that by choice.

• 14:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 14:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was like, I do not exist. Disassociate.

• 14:47Corinne Vien?

  I am not here. You're like the creepy little doll child. They're like, ew, do you have a mannequin in the corner? It's like, no, that's my middle child, Sabrina.

• 14:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's strange. We don't talk about it.

• 14:57Corinne Vien?

  Strange one. Here, meet the other two.

• 15:02Corinne Vien?

  Okay, as a kid, I was more curious than I was scared, but even then I felt like the adults around me were genuinely fearing certain things. Eventually, we moved to Alabama, onto my mom's family's property, and that place felt pretty eerie, but in a completely different way. The property had been in our family for generations and sat deep in the woods behind a long rocky road with a locked gate. There were abandoned barns, workshops, hunting land, old houses, and our family graveyard sitting down the hill. Is this like an abandoned commune? Like what, what is this?

• 15:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am obsessed with your family. So cool.

• 15:38Corinne Vien?

  It's like, which one do you choose?

• 15:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:41Corinne Vien?

  Some graves had names, some didn't. Past the graveyard sat my great grandfather's abandoned house slowly rotting in the woods. And during the daytime, I would wander around exploring these things because I was a curious kid.

• 15:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sure.

• 15:53Corinne Vien?

  But at night, I refused to even look out the window. I refused to look towards the graveyard. I always felt like I was being watched there. Not creeped out, but like genuinely watched. What makes it stranger is that my mom experienced things long before I was born. She told me her friends hated sleeping over because they swore that the whole property was haunted. One night, one of her friends woke up sobbing, saying she saw lights moving through the graveyard and heard three loud knocks at the front door in the middle of the night. Her mom came and picked her up around 2:00 AM because she was so terrified. My mom also admitted that she constantly felt like she was being watched when she was growing up there.

• 16:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn.

• 16:31Corinne Vien?

  Even my momma supposedly had experiences on the property. There's also an old family photograph that still creeps me out to this day. In the picture, my momma is standing in her garden, smiling for the camera, but behind her is a tall man that nobody recognizes. Blonde hair, green eyes, overalls, standing there, clear as day, like he intentionally posed for the photo.

• 16:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do we have this photo?

• 16:53Corinne Vien?

  I don't think so.

• 16:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, no.

• 16:55Corinne Vien?

  My family swears he was not there when the picture was taken and nobody knows who he is.

• 16:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, if this house has been in family, in, in their family for years, is it a family member? Is it her guardian?

• 17:07Corinne Vien?

  Could be.

• 17:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 17:08Corinne Vien?

  Looking back now, another thing that unsettles me is that people have always said that I look identical to my mom, not just similar, but like identical.

• 17:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Copy and paste.

• 17:17Corinne Vien?

  We even have a picture where we're the exact same age and genuinely it looks like the same exact person, besides the clothes. Sometimes I honestly wonder if whatever was there mistakes me for her, considering how similar our experiences have been. One day, I asked my grandmother why some of the graves didn't have names. And that is when she told me that years ago, during the time of plantation still being operated nearby, my family found a runaway little boy in the woods who was dying from a fever.

• 17:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 17:44Corinne Vien?

  They tried helping him, but unfortunately he passed away on the property and they buried him near a tree. After hearing that story, the land felt even heavier to me. And as I got older, I started hearing footsteps, scratching in the walls, constantly feeling like someone was standing behind me. Eventually, we moved away, but the feeling followed me. When I was around 13, we moved into another older house sitting on a hill near a winding road. My room had this strange locked compartment built into the wall above my bed with this old rusted knob and keyhole. And I never opened it, but that room always made me feel really uneasy. Around the same time, my parents' relationship completely fell apart and the atmosphere in the house became really tense, really heavy. Eventually, my mom met another man and we moved into a trailer with him and his family in Florida.

• 18:29Corinne Vien?

  From the moment I met him, something about him just felt wrong. That's where I had my first experience that I genuinely cannot explain. One summer night, I woke up suddenly with a feeling that someone was staring at me. Everyone was asleep and down the hallway, the sheer curtains looked like something was moving behind them. The air turned freezing cold and I felt pressure crushing my chest and my throat. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't speak. I remember staring into the hallway terrified, feeling dizzy and weak. And then, just like that, it stopped. The next morning, I noticed scratches along my side. And after that, things in my life just got significantly worse. And through all of it, I always felt like something was nearby.

• 19:13Corinne Vien?

  My freshman year, I became really interested in paranormal topics and spirituality and not just like the summoning spirits type of way. I was honestly trying to understand things. Eventually, I moved in with my adoptive slash a foster mom and things were calm at first, but after we moved in, strange things started happening there too. Footsteps, scratching, my doorknob rattling at night. And one night around 3:00 AM, my adoptive mother woke up furious because someone had been knocking on her bedroom door. My brothers were awake, playing video games and swore they never knocked. They didn't hear anything. The camera showed nothing. And eventually she got so uncomfortable that she asked me what we should do. And I suggested that we needed to cleanse the house.

• 19:56Corinne Vien?

  We needed to firmly say whatever was there was not welcome. And oddly enough, after doing this, things did slow.

• 20:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's for you.

• 20:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Also, there's a lot that just seems to be following this.

• 20:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. I'm like, is it the house or is it your family? It's probably a combination.

• 20:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Well, because definitely at least though, like farm area, like that's for sure haunted because years before they were born.

• 20:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You draw them in. You're a beacon.

• 20:20Corinne Vien?

  Born into it.

• 20:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 20:21Corinne Vien?

  Years later, I reconnected with my dad's side of the family and temporarily moved in with my grandparents and my aunt. That house felt unbearably heavy and everyone there openly admitted that they heard and saw things. One morning, after coming home from a friend's house, my grandma and my aunt randomly asked me if I thought that I had something attached to me or whether I had been baptized or not. And I kind of laughed this off, like whatever, but they were being dead serious. My aunt then told me that a little girl had died in the house years ago and that they would sometimes see her at night. She had black hair, a white dress, no face. Then my aunt said something that still sticks with me. She doesn't like you.

• 21:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 21:03Corinne Vien?

  Excuse me?

• 21:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Can we resolve this issue?

• 21:06Corinne Vien?

  Imagine being told that? Like, hey, by the way, there is the ghost of a dead little girl in here.

• 21:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she doesn't like you.

• 21:14Corinne Vien?

  Right. Instead of being like, she means no harm, or she just pops up, it's like,

• 21:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 21:18Corinne Vien?

  Bad things are coming for you.

• 21:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sucks for you.

• 21:20Corinne Vien?

  Too bad. Too bad, so sad. Later, they had me sit alone in a back room where most of the activities supposedly happened, and within minutes, the room became freezing cold. I felt overwhelming fear and sadness and pressure all over my body. I felt hard to breathe. Every instinct in me screamed at me to leave, and I finally ran out of the room shaking. My aunt later claimed my face looked different. And after I sat down, I noticed that I had three long scratches across my back. I still remember my grandmother praying over me afterward.

• 21:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck?

• 21:53Corinne Vien?

  The weirdest part is that even after moving away, I still occasionally feel watched.

• 21:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Again, because it's you. Not just these houses.

• 22:02Corinne Vien?

  Here's a question. Where have you lived? That nothing's happened.

• 22:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If nowhere, you're the problem.

• 22:07Corinne Vien?

  Sorry. It's me. Hi, I'm Tom, it's me. I don't think I said those lyrics right.

• 22:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah, sorry.

• 22:14Corinne Vien?

  I got the point. Sometimes I'll hear scratching and movement at night. Nothing violent has happened recently, but I do have the feeling

• 22:22Corinne Vien?

  that nothing has ever completely left. What really gets to me is how people react when I tell them these stories. My boyfriend gets genuinely concerned, and not like a joking, like, oh, it's a ghost story way either. Like, he has told me multiple times that the way I describe things does not sound normal. And honestly, sometimes he seems almost scared when I talk about it. Part of me wonders if, growing up around so much fear and trauma and old properties and family beliefs, has just maybe messed with my perception. But another part of me can't ignore how consistent these experiences have been throughout my life. Especially because multiple people, completely separate from one another, have said the same things without me bringing them up first. So I guess my question is this. Does this sound like an attachment?

• 23:05Corinne Vien?

  Or is this maybe more psychological and environmental? Either way, I'd really appreciate anybody's honest opinions. This is from E.

• 23:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I definitely do think going through a lot psychologically opens you up. But based on everything you've shared about your family too, and like, the practices they have, I think you're just, you were born into it.

• 23:26Corinne Vien?

  And then you're just more open, and so more things happen.

• 23:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. It's a combination.

• 23:30Corinne Vien?

  It's a combo.

• 23:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You got a combo platter.

• 23:32Corinne Vien?

  But it is interesting, I'm curious how E, beyond just what E, and like, maybe we're the wrong people to hear things, because we also have some, like, desensitization. Is that a word? I don't know.

• 23:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah, we're desensitized.

• 23:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, to like, some bits of paranormal, but to the point where E is saying, like, her boyfriend's concerned, because

• 23:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, especially

• 23:54Corinne Vien?

  described. But it's also like, is that the trauma response? Is she being blasé about how she's describing things? Like, she finds it horrifying, but

• 24:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I mean, she did say, nothing violent has happened recently. And it's so, it is very blasé. And then if you take that, plus someone who has zero experience and doesn't have a history of paranormal things.

• 24:13Corinne Vien?

  And you're like, oh, I've been scratched by little girls and demons multiple times in my life.

• 24:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:16Corinne Vien?

  Different places.

• 24:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That would be terrifying to someone

• 24:18Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 24:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  who has no experience.

• 24:20Corinne Vien?

  Oh, you don't feel watched at your home? You don't hear scratches and voices?

• 24:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 24:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, you're right. I guess some people would find that

• 24:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That would be a little uncomfy. Okay.

• 24:30Corinne Vien?

  To you, E, we think that you are normal. One of us.

• 24:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Deemed haunted, but normal. Chin chin.

• 24:37Corinne Vien?

  You're a little freak.

• 24:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cheers to you. Hmm. Okay. I have a fortune for someone, our next listener, and the fortune is, yes, you are haunted.

• 24:48Corinne Vien?

  Surprise, surprise.

• 24:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 25:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 27:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is from our listener Peyton. She/her, and it's a little bit of a doozy. It is called DIY House Exorcism. No priest required, excuse me, or no priest, whoa, no priest required. I can't even read it. Ah, question mark, demon, question mark, ghost, question mark? Hello, lovely ghosty ghouls, Sven, and Fruitfly. My name is Peyton. Please feel free to use my name on the pod. I've been a listener since 2020, and I love the show. I've gotten hopelessly lost in the triangle with you two, and I don't care to find my way out. I've been wanting to send in my story for quite some time, maybe six years, the whole time I've been listening. But unfortunately, ADHD has a stronghold on me, and the number of times I've thought to myself, I really need to write to Sabrina and Corinne.

• 28:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But okay, I'm finally committing. As a true Scorpio, I have loved all spooky things since I can remember. My sisters and I have all three been this way. My older sister, teenage niece and I, enjoy the occasional amateur ghost hunt. So if you girls are reading this on the pod first, holy shit. And second, hey, Brandy, I finally sent in this story. Hey, Brandy.

• 28:34Corinne Vien?

  Hi, Brandy.

• 28:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anywho, for some background. My mother, Tammy, has always been on the spookier side, whether she wanted to or not. She had many experiences of her own, and ghost talk was always a fun topic for my family. My mother grew up Catholic and always aligned with some form of Christianity. So she was the real, never, by any means, ever use a Ouija board. If your friends try to make one, you leave, type of mother. She did not seek out the paranormal, but it did seem to always find her. Now, Brandy and I have come to the conclusion that my mother has some form of an ability that she never explored or tried to tap into, so I guess we'll never truly know. And then my dad

• 29:15Corinne Vien?

  It almost feels worse that, like, things are still happening, where it's like, she tries so hard

• 29:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To not.

• 29:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, she's just like wandering around, and things keep popping up.

• 29:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 29:23Corinne Vien?

  And then it's like, you have to, like, skills or knowledge of how to deal with it, if you're

• 29:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If you're trying to

• 29:28Corinne Vien?

  Just trying to ignore it your whole life.

• 29:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then there's my dad, Roy. He has always been a skeptic. That is, until he lived through the events that took place in the house that we all refer to as The House on Grasshopper. And this little nickname formed on its own, for the name of the street the house was on. And after all the times my little sister and I annoyed our parents with, tell us the scary stories from The House on Grasshopper again, please? This question always creeped its way into our family conversations anytime us girls were looking for some late-night scares. Okay, a little bit more on the family dynamic. My older sister is 12 years older than me, and she's also my half-sister from my dad. My little sister, Lauren, is a full sister.

• 30:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The following events took place in the late 80s, before Lauren and I were born. Thank God 90s babies were reporting for duty. So it's one of these stories that has become more of family lore at this point. My nieces and nephew are now the next generation of kiddos that keep asking my older sister to tell them about the scary stories from The House on Grasshopper.

• 30:34Corinne Vien?

  The House on Grasshopper just like, sounds like a book, a good book. Good spooky book.

• 30:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's gotten that name because there is a lot to it. Okay, I'll do my best to share our ghost story. Or maybe it's our family story of torment via demon? That might be a better way to describe it. My mom would lean more that way, but for myself, I no longer subscribe to the evangelical ways of life. I now align more with the witchy, spiritual way of living. And don't get me wrong, I do believe there are evil spirits, and whatever was in my parents' house was definitely not friendly, because it loved to scare the shit out of my family. But it was kind enough to leave, once my mother was forceful about it. No priest required, just some heavy-handed prayer on my mother's part. Okay, so yeah, maybe a little demonic. The House on Grasshopper Drive was normal-looking enough on the outside.

• 31:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was positioned at the corner of the street with an acute neighborhood in the suburbs just outside of Fort Worth, Texas. It was the second house that my mom, my dad, and Brandy lived in as a family, along with their two pups, Chance and Angel. This will be important for later. At this point, Brandy was living with our dad full-time, and they lived in this house from the time my sister Brandy was six years old, until she was 10. Naturally, things started out small. Doors would be found closed that my mom or sister were sure they just opened, or the bathroom sinks would be found running after no one had been in there. And these things, my dad was a pro at explaining away, according to my sister. As she put it, "Our dad and my mom gaslit the shit out of her while living here." And I can hear it now. "Oh, it's just your imagination." Or, "No, no, that was just the AC turning on, don't worry."

• 32:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Either way, they always had the perfect excuse to explain away whatever my sister Brandy was experiencing. All the while, they were experiencing things of their own. And I will give it some grace, as they were trying to protect my sister who was young. But my sister knew something was wrong with this house. She could feel it. The house felt heavy.

• 32:25Corinne Vien?

  This is what I appreciate. It's like, even when parents try their hardest to just dismiss things out of the desire to not instill more fear in their children, it's like, sometimes things are just so bad, or so palpable, that it's like, okay, well, maybe you don't believe, but I know something shady is going on.

• 32:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can't ignore it. My sister says it felt as though someone was watching them just lurking in the shadows constantly in this house. Like any other kid, Brandy had many stuffed animals in her room. But unlike any other kid, her toys moved on their own. And not in the cute Toy Story way, but in the "holy shit, this place is haunted" kind of way. She had a large stuffed dog that she won while playing a typical carnival game at Six Flags in Texas. And it had its own special place right next to her bed. This thing was roughly four feet tall and had a head so big, it was difficult for even a child to wrap their arms completely around it. All this to say, this stuffed animal was big. And it moved on its own.

• 33:21Corinne Vien?

  Hell, no.

• 33:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No one could explain that simply. One night-

• 33:25Corinne Vien?

  Also, how do you not see it?

• 33:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's what she's saying. You literally see it moving.

• 33:29Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I thought it was like, okay, it moves from room to room, or like, it'll be in a slightly different position, or a different section of the room when they come back in. They're watching this giant thing get up and move?

• 33:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One night, she was headed to bed, and rounded the corner into her room to find this large stuffed dog being dragged across the floor, and abruptly stopped when she entered the room.

• 33:51Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god.

• 33:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My sister absolutely lost her little kid in mind, ran out to our parents who were watching TV in the living room, and frantically begins telling them about her stuffed animal moving on its own. My parents attempted to calm her down. They checked her closet. They checked under her bed for monsters. And my mom finished off with the typical, "See, it's nothing. You're okay. Nothing's in your room. It's okay." Of course, this didn't work, and to this day, she will tell you that she knows she walked in on an invisible force moving her stuffed toy.

• 34:18Corinne Vien?

  Yep.

• 34:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On another occasion, she swears she witnessed a hand pop up in the middle of the pile of all of her stuffed animals, sending all of the stuffed animals toppling over and careening to the floor. Yes, a hand, no body included. It materialized in the center of a pile of stuffed toys that originally lay unbothered and unmoved on her desk for quite some time.

• 34:39Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 34:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cue the screams and mad dashy inevitably made to our parents' room. And she now says she can't explain it, but she knows what she saw. That she will go to the grave insisting that a hand pushed those toys over.

• 34:50Corinne Vien?

  I believe her.

• 34:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For sure.

• 34:52Corinne Vien?

  I've brought this up a few times throughout the lifespan of our podcast, but I don't think too recently. When I was in high school, on the field hockey team, we had an end-of-year party every year. One... Oh, last time I told it, I was like, "I'm gonna see if I can reach out to her and ask for the video." And now I'm reminding myself that I never did that. But there was one girl on my team who... The party was at her house, and it was so great, but some of us gathered around her childhood, or like, the family computer. And her mom showed us, like, her and her mom showed us a video from her uncle's house that was super haunted, where he filmed, because this stuff would happen so often. He filmed at his kitchen table, like, this old wooden table,

• 35:35Corinne Vien?

  a rolling pin was just going back and forth, back and forth. But if you keep watching it, like, your eyes are on the rolling pin.

• 35:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 35:42Corinne Vien?

  But if you pay attention to just pass, like, right by the end of the frame, or like, where the camera cuts off, you see phantom hands like this come in for a second, like, phew, appear. Almost like they were doing magic, like, using their energy to roll the pin.

• 35:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa.

• 35:58Corinne Vien?

  It was crazy.

• 35:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's wild.

• 36:01Corinne Vien?

  Haunted Vermont, man.

• 36:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Those are the dream friends. This is what this community is. Just let's all swap ghost stories.

• 36:08Corinne Vien?

  End-of-year field hockey party that could ever exist.

• 36:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn. Okay, Brandy spent many nights either sleeping between our parents or sleeping on our parents' bedroom floor. And you'll learn in a moment why, looking back on it now, that the floor was a very risky option. If Brandy did sleep in her room, it was only if my mother's Bible was under her pillow and she had all the lights on. And only after she recited her perfectly rehearsed personal prayer requesting her guardian angels to protect her through the night. To this day, she still remembers every word of this prayer for protection. Okay, so another time, our cousin was visiting, and the two were sitting on Brandy's bed, doing what kids at this age do, when out of nowhere, bang! Across her room, the closet door slammed shut with a force. The two of them flew from the bed and ran into the hallway so fast their feet barely touched the ground.

• 36:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Again, our parents tried to explain the experience away. Slowly, though, over time, these occurrences became harder and harder to explain away. Like, my mom started coming home from work to find odd things that occurred in the house during their absence. One time, she arrived home to find the placemats from the dining table strewn across the house without a reasonable explanation. As time went on, she began feeling increasingly uncomfortable when home alone. Eventually, she couldn't take the unease anymore, that she began accompanying my self-employed father to work. Like, so scared to be home alone.

• 37:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Oh, that makes me so sad.

• 37:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But this couldn't go on forever. My mom wanted to feel comfortable in her own home. One afternoon, my parents arrived back home after a short workday from my dad, and they walked in the door when my mom beelined it to the bathroom. She opened the door to find the lights, exhaust fan, and heater all on, with the sink running full blast.

• 37:51Corinne Vien?

  Oh, wow.

• 37:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The shower curtain had been removed from the hooks and was neatly folded atop the toilet.

• 37:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's so disturbing.

• 37:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  From the other room, my dad hears my mom's concerned tone as she says, "Roy, can you come here, please?" He walked into the bathroom to find my mom standing in there, confused. When he saw the bizarre situation, he became concerned that there was an intruder. Someone had to have been here while we were gone. My mom asked, "Why would someone come into our house to mess with things in the bathroom, remove the shower curtain, and fold it neatly?" My dad began checking the house in hopes to find any sign of the intruder, because he was sure it had to be a person, right?

• 38:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 38:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But nothing. And no other items removed or out of sorts. Nothing was missing.

• 38:33Corinne Vien?

  Like, it's one thing to... You can't explain away it being folded.

• 38:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because you can say, okay, all the other things, there's like a burst of energy, it has no control, but to neatly fold something? That's hard for me to do.

• 38:45Corinne Vien?

  That's time spent.

• 38:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So, as they're trying to figure out what the heck happened, the sink in their bathroom starts running again on its own. Then, this starts happening in the middle of the night. It got to a point where it was happening every night for a week, when finally, my mother begins recounting her recent experience to my dad as they're getting ready for bed. My dad says, "You're probably forgetting to turn the sink off before coming to bed." My mother said, "Okay, yeah, sure. Next time it happens, I'm waking you up." That night, like clockwork, the eerie and familiar sound of rushing water could be heard from the bathroom just across from their bedroom. My father is sleeping next to her, and just as promised, she wakes him up with a whispered tone. "Roy, Roy, wake up. The sink just turned on by itself." My dad wakes up, listens for a moment.

• 39:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He, too, hears the water running. He gets out of bed, heads towards the bathroom to shut it off while mumbling something to himself. And just as this man reaches for the handle to turn off the sink, I shit you not, the handle turns off on its own, right in front of his eyes.

• 39:45Corinne Vien?

  It's like it's taunting him now.

• 39:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My mother felt vindicated. "See, I told you I wasn't leaving it running." Things continued to escalate, and unexplainable events became more frequent. On one occasion, my parents were laying in bed listening to the sound of an invisible spectral finger running up and down the 80s-style metal blinds just above their heads. My dad would say, "It's probably just the wind of the fan." But no, they could hear what felt like fingers going up and down those blinds.

• 40:12Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, ooh.

• 40:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That night, my dad almost lost his shit on their ghost, which was both bone-chilling and probably comical. So, remember me mentioning their dogs, Chance and Angel? Well, this is when our four-legged friends come into play. So, my mom was awoken to the sound of a long, drug-out, rattled and ragged breaths coming from beneath them. From right under their bed.

• 40:37Corinne Vien?

  Nope.

• 40:41Corinne Vien?

  It's disturbing in so many ways, but I also feel like it's such a classic haunting trope that we actually almost never hear-

• 40:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The under the bed.

• 40:51Corinne Vien?

  -really happen.

• 40:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 40:52Corinne Vien?

  Like, kids are afraid of monsters under their bed. Like, you're scared that someone's under your bed. Something's hiding under your bed. Almost no story includes that when it comes to the paranormal. Like, in reality.

• 41:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's got it now.

• 41:03Corinne Vien?

  Yet, here we are. It does happen.

• 41:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My mom lies there for a moment, listening. She's trying to collect her thoughts, mentally confirming she is actually hearing what she's hearing. She thinks, "It must be the dogs." But then, no. One of the dogs was right next to her, and the other, she could hear in the kitchen. Then, there was a long, dragged-out, rattled gasp of air

• 41:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  from under the bed. It paused. And then, another.

• 41:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She quietly shakes my father awake. Wake up, something is under our bed. My dad groggily says, no, it's just the dogs. It's just Chance or Angel. Just go back to sleep.

• 41:40Corinne Vien?

  Even if it is, check on the dogs. That's concerning. They're gasping for breath.

• 41:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My mother whispers back, no, Angel's lying next to me. And listen, you can hear Chance drinking water in the kitchen. My dad lies there.

• 41:51Corinne Vien?

  Or what if it was a dog, then who's drinking the water?

• 41:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who's drinking the water? People can lick too. My dad lies there, listening for a moment. And that's when he hears it. Those long, ragged breaths continuing beneath him. My mom says, if you don't believe me, go check. Chance is in the kitchen and Angel's right here. My dad gets out of bed, moves towards the living room without another word, and swiftly returns with his World War II bayonet rifle at hand. What are you going to do with that? My mom says confused. And now, my not so skeptic anymore, six foot two father replies with, I will be damned if something kills me in my sleep with my own rifle. So he gets back in bed, sleeps with a rifle glued to his chest for the rest of the night.

• 42:27Corinne Vien?

  That's what it takes.

• 42:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Later, my mother decides to take olive oil and anointed all the doorways while praying, hoping it would do something. Unfortunately, things continued. A few nights following, the familiar clicking of the metal blinds began again above her head. And she said, that is it. She had it. She grabbed her Bible and began reading scripture out loud. She started praying hard. I rebuke you. In the name of Jesus, you are not welcome here. More prayer ensues. And then it starts, the wailing. Loud wails of pain, coming from everywhere. My mom thought that this meant it was working, which pushed her harder to pray. I rebuke you in the name of Jesus, she repeated. You are not welcome here. The wails got louder. She prayed more.

• 43:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She continued, refusing to back down. She refused to be scared in her own home. Enough was enough. Slowly, the wails start to sound distant. She could hear them getting further away, until finally they faded into the abyss. And just the sound of peace resonated off the walls in that moment. My mom would later recount that instantly, she felt the house become lighter, like the heaviness was just, poof, gone. And she was pretty proud of herself. She exercised the whole damn house on her own. No priests required. My dad slept through most of my mother's makeshift exorcism. And my mother took a short break from her prayer, just long enough to wake my dad. Roy, hey, do you hear that? My dad responded with, yes, it's probably just the cats fighting in the front yard.

• 43:58Corinne Vien?

  Oh, come on. How many excuses can we come up with?

• 44:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The next morning, Roy did confess to my mom that he knew it was not cats. He just didn't want my mom to be scared. My family didn't experience anything else in that house after this, until the day they moved out. Eventually, the house was put on the market and my parents did buy another house in a nearby neighborhood, the house that Lauren and I grew up in. But before moving out, my parents were stopped by the neighbor while walking into the house. They struck up a conversation, normal, superficial, neighborly conversation, when the neighbor brings up the for sale sign in the front yard. And he jokes, you know, nobody's been able to stay in this house long. My wife and I swear, it's probably haunted by something.

• 44:40Corinne Vien?

  Oh, funny you say that.

• 44:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My mom and dad shared a knowing look, but they didn't confirm or deny the neighbor's theory. They just laughed it off and kept this piping hot ghostly tea for themselves. Once the moving was nearly complete, my dad returned to the house on Grasshopper Drive for the last load of items. There were only a few things left, and he decided to make this last trip alone. After grabbing the last box, he went into the house one final time. And in true man fashion, he needed to poop.

• 45:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So he goes to the bathroom. And while in there, he hears heavy footsteps coming from the front part of the house. As they moved, he traced their path in his mind. They went from the entryway to the living room. And this man wasted no time. This was probably the fastest poop he ever had in his life. He said, fuck that, finished his business, and booked it the hell out of there. He arrived at the new house, told my mother, well, Tammy, I think your ghost is back. You will not believe what I heard while I was there. Joke's on you, Dad, because she always believed you're the one who didn't. Well, yeah. Thank you, ladies. That is the house on Grasshopper Drive.

• 45:40Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 45:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you on the other side, Peyton.

• 45:43Corinne Vien?

  I mean, there's so much.

• 45:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So much.

• 45:44Corinne Vien?

  And it's kind of confusing because a lot of it's really scary and it's like...

• 45:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The breathing under the bed?

• 45:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, the breathing, just like the, yeah, rattled breaths, the sounds of like, activity outside door. But then there's weird things where it's like, okay, well, why are you folding the shower curtain?

• 46:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They didn't like the shower curtain. I don't know. And then, like, it does feel like a kid playing with the toys.

• 46:07Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, dragging the...

• 46:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Dragging the, yeah, because like...

• 46:09Corinne Vien?

  Because it's not like the thing is coming to life.

• 46:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 46:11Corinne Vien?

  It's being manipulated by an unseen force.

• 46:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's scary.

• 46:16Corinne Vien?

  Very.

• 46:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Go off, Mom, for rebuking the spirits.

• 46:19Corinne Vien?

  I know. See, you always say it's about intention, and I feel like that story was proof that it is.

• 46:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is about intention.

• 46:26Corinne Vien?

  Whatever you believe will work.

• 46:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Should work.

• 46:29Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, hopefully. That's what everyone, everyone wants.

• 46:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We say that, and then there are people who are dealing with things and it's...

• 46:35Corinne Vien?

  And then it never goes away, no matter what.

• 46:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Until randomly, like the Smurl family possession.

• 46:38Corinne Vien?

  Yep.

• 46:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The Hinsdale house, all of them.

• 46:40Corinne Vien?

  Just randomly stops.

• 46:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 46:42Corinne Vien?

  Or the worst is when it stops for a while and then it just randomly starts again. Where you have like a good, like, seven months where you're like, oh.

• 46:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like the item, the tornado. You think you're in the...

• 46:51Corinne Vien?

  And boom.

• 46:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's back.

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• 48:56Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this is called Sequential Dreams. Alternate timelines, shadows, demons, and Benny?

• 49:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who's Benny?

• 49:02Corinne Vien?

  Hi, ghostesses. My name is Alana. I have been surrounded by ghosts and intensely fascinated with all things paranormal, essentially since the time that I was born. I have countless stories to tell you, many of which I've probably already forgotten. But I definitely am the ghost first, rational later type of mindset.

• 49:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You and us both.

• 49:21Corinne Vien?

  So it's about once a day that I feel like maybe I have had a supernatural occurrence of some sort.

• 49:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that.

• 49:26Corinne Vien?

  I will categorize these encounters into separate emails to make the timeline a little bit easier to follow. But, but just as a teaser, here are some hints of what's to come. First off, I grew up in a peaceful haunted house, hence my obsession with your podcast. Second, my college dorm room was very haunted, and I didn't have roommates, which made it extra spooky at night.

• 49:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You had ghostly roommates.

• 49:46Corinne Vien?

  Thirdly, my high school was an old Catholic elementary school that still had the leftover murals from when it was being run as such. Fourth, my best friend's childhood home is intensely haunted by multiple entities, one of which is a woman that wails throughout the house, especially when anyone is home alone, or there's high tension amongst the family.

• 50:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, she doesn't like being alone?

• 50:09Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 50:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she doesn't like when you fight?

• 50:10Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 50:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That kind of makes me sad.

• 50:14Corinne Vien?

  Fifth, my current place of work is inside an old sawmill, and most of us have known that it's been haunted, but activity has been ramping up a lot.

• 50:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn, okay, we've got a lot in store.

• 50:25Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 50:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Buckle up.

• 50:27Corinne Vien?

  And lastly, I've had dreams throughout my life, years apart. They aren't recurring, but rather in sequence. It's almost like maybe they're dreams of a past life? Maybe dreams of the future? I'm not sure. Needless to say, there's no way I could share all of these with you in one sitting. So I will be sending separate emails. Anyway. As I said, I grew up in a haunted house. And not only that, every house and apartment that I've ever lived in, I've come to know is haunted. So maybe it is just me.

• 50:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 50:55Corinne Vien?

  My parents moved to Tau before they got married, and that's where they slash I spent the first 14 years of my life, up until when we moved to Santa Fe during my high school era. I now live in Albuquerque, New Mexico, with my fiance and adorable fur baby Shih Tzu Benny. That's who Benny is.

• 51:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, hi Benny.

• 51:12Corinne Vien?

  My Tau house was a sweet, two-bedroom cottage kind of house. It's the house that I still, to this day, associate with the term home. And as a kid, I had an extremely active imagination, as someone put it. I, however, am pretty sure that all of us there would say that I was just embracing my spirituality from a very young age.

• 51:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:32Corinne Vien?

  My friends and I would play witches in my front yard. We would travel around my big, beautiful willow tree into other realities, casting spells against evil demons and warlocks, like on Charmed Ones.

• 51:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Magical.

• 51:45Corinne Vien?

  Willow trees are my favorite trees. They're so beautiful. We'd carve stakes out of tree branches. We'd play Buffy the Vampire Slayer. And at one point, we even redecorated my bedroom to be a Wiccan store full of crystal balls. Potions, wands, tarot cards, crystals, handwritten spellbooks that we created. My birthday was also October 24th and yeah, so I decorated for Halloween, especially as a kid, but also for my birthday and decorating for that would be an understatement.

• 52:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my God, that's amazing.

• 52:15Corinne Vien?

  Needless to say, I was extremely witchy and spooky as a child.

• 52:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 52:18Corinne Vien?

  So was my mom. That's where I got it from. Growing up, she taught me about astrology, astrological numbers, numerology. Yet while a majority of this fun stemmed from long binges of Charmed and Ghost Whisperer, I always knew in my heart that there was so much more truth to the stories and to the magic and ghosts that I felt, especially the ghost part. I knew things that I was making up for fun and playing was maybe fun and play for some people, but for me, my intuition knew that it wasn't just about play. My friend Athena.

• 52:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Already, of course Athena.

• 52:52Corinne Vien?

  Athena.

• 52:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whichy name.

• 52:53Corinne Vien?

  My friend Athena and I would spend every single weekend together from the ages of six to about 13. And let me preface the story by saying that I to this day have never experienced a truly malicious haunting. But one day when we were around seven, Athena and I started telling our parents about the quote, "black demon" that lived in my room. We described it as being charcoal gray in color, had leathery skin, big black horns, red glowing eyes. And I truly don't remember seeing this entity, yet one day seemingly out of nowhere Athena and I imagined it in the exact same way without disagreement or prior discussion. And for years after our initial discussion about this black demon,

• 53:32Corinne Vien?

  we would talk about it and somehow telepathically know all of the things that resided in my bedroom and my bedroom alone. We would always say that that is where this thing lived. My mom surprisingly never seemed to think much of this bizarre topic. And while the imagery is surely grotesque and bizarre, none of us ever felt really negative about the presences in my home. So we thought part of this was just childhood imaginations spurred by some creepy content that we consumed. Or maybe Athena and I truly knew of this entity's existence, maybe it simply never acted, but just wanted us to know that it was around.

• 54:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't mind that.

• 54:07Corinne Vien?

  We would all experience odd encounters, including Athena, who I said was over most weekends. She was the closest person I've had to being a sister.

• 54:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 54:16Corinne Vien?

  We would all experiencing shadows walking through the house out of our peripheral vision, mimic-like voices, odd noises. And the spirits never gave us a sense of danger. If anything, it really just felt like whoever was in the house simply wanted to share the space with us and observe us. But on several occasions, my mom would be in the middle of vacuuming our circular designed hallway and she would see me standing in my room out of the corner of her eye. She would turn to address me and I wouldn't be there. So there was a mimic.

• 54:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And a creepy kid mimic at that.

• 54:46Corinne Vien?

  And my mom was the one who experienced most of the mimic activity. Almost every single time she thought she saw or heard me. And as for me, I seem to always be the one that the spirits took the most interest in.

• 54:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, to be fair, you did seem like you were wanting to be interested in them as well.

• 55:02Corinne Vien?

  There were at least two spirits, one masculine, one feminine. And the feminine one would appear to us much more like a silhouette, even though we only ever saw her from our side eye. Whereas the masculine entity would always appear as this hazy shadow with no defined features at all. And I know what you're thinking, okay, well, could this have been the quote unquote black demon? As Athena and I would refer to it as such. But the energy from the shadow man felt much more peaceful, much more harmless. He never really did anything. He just kind of wandered the house. On one occasion, when we were around nine, Athena had been sleeping over and we were sharing my twin bed, which had been pushed against the wall, the back wall of my room. And she laid with her head on one end of the bed and I laid with my head on the other. The door to my room stood across from us and at the time I still slept with the nightlight on.

• 55:45Corinne Vien?

  So my room was fairly illuminated, even though it was the middle of the night. At this time, I would consistently wake up about halfway through the night for no reason. And this happened every single night. I don't know exactly what time it was, but I know that it was always around the same time. So on this particular night, I was in a deep, deep sleep. But then once again, boom, woke up, alert, wasn't half asleep. I was fully awake.

• 56:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 56:07Corinne Vien?

  I opened my eyes, I'm still, I'm laying on my side, I'm facing the bedroom door. Immediately I noticed a shadowy silhouette stretched across my area rug in front of the bed. It was not standing in front of me, but rather illuminated on the floor, just as one's shadow appears on a sidewalk on a sunny day outside.

• 56:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa.

• 56:26Corinne Vien?

  But if it wasn't odd enough for someone's shadow to just be laid immobile across my bedroom floor, it also struck me that the shadow kind of looked exactly like me. The shape of the wavy hair, unmistakable. So my instinct immediately clocked it as me looking at myself in the mirror, even though I couldn't really make out any discernible features.

• 56:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So weird.

• 56:47Corinne Vien?

  It was as if I was the one standing there casting my shadow across the floor. And so immediately I sat up, but this thing remained frozen in the same spot. I stared at it for a while, confused by its existence, analyzing, trying to be logical about the situation. But with no reasoning being found, my nerves kicked in and I nudged Athena's foot, trying to wake her up so that she could either knock me out of this hallucination or at least validate it. Athena, Athena, I whispered, do you see that? Look. But she just groaned and said, tell it to go to sleep.

• 57:17Corinne Vien?

  Also, I love Athena throughout this whole experience because like most kids, I feel like if they hadn't experienced it at a friend's house, they'd be like, I'm never going back.

• 57:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, Athena's like, hell yeah.

• 57:26Corinne Vien?

  Athena's like, I live here now too. So we're in this together. Tell it to go to sleep. She didn't even open her eyes. At which point I was sufficiently freaked and I just quickly laid back down, covered my face with the blankets. Eventually I did fall back to sleep and I never experienced that phenomenon again.

• 57:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Weird.

• 57:42Corinne Vien?

  But now for a theory. So I was listening to your episode with Holly and Bridgette a while back and you touched on the idea that ghosts can sometimes be future versions of ourselves. Corinne, you shared your own experience of this and I immediately was reminded of my own. Growing up, I always looked back at this encounter as odd, remembering clearly how instinctually I thought that this was me so quickly, even without giving it proper consideration.

• 58:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 58:07Corinne Vien?

  So is this one of my haunting of Hill House moments? The next experience in that house is one I have never forgotten. My dad would stay up late working on his computer almost every single night. I can still picture him now, sitting in his spot as he often would, the blue light of his screen illuminating his face in the dark. And one night, also when I was around nine, I sleptwalked into the living room.

• 58:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lovely.

• 58:28Corinne Vien?

  This is one of the only times I've ever sleptwalked. And it must've been more of like a half asleep days because I actually do have memory of this pretty vividly. I remember my vision was very blurry, almost as if I had two foggy lenses over my eyes. I could barely discern the environment. This sounds like you were possessed.

• 58:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but like kind of still in the pocket, slightly being able to look through the lens of your own eyes.

• 58:53Corinne Vien?

  So I sleptwalked into the living room where I could hazily see my dad sitting in his usual spot on the couch, clicking away at his computer. And I said, hey dad. And I went and I curled up next to him, quickly falling back asleep. The next morning, I'm still asleep on the couch and my parents wander into the living room as I woke up. And my mom asked why I was in the living room. I replied, I came in here to sleep by dad. And my dad replied, I wasn't out here, I was in bed. To this day, this baffles me. I vividly remember seeing the silhouette of my dad sitting on the couch through the blurry vision. The thought was that whoever or whatever I curled up next to, I guess, wasn't him. And that gives me goosebumps.

• 59:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's not what I was expecting from that.

• 59:33Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 59:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa.

• 59:34Corinne Vien?

  Or was I maybe tapping into some alternate timeline? This was a different version of my dad? I don't know. Anyway, thank you so much for creating a spooky supportive community and never leaving me unseen with my paranormal experiences. See you on the other side, Alana and Benny.

• 59:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 59:50Corinne Vien?

  And then we have way more stories from Alana to share in the future.

• 59:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, clearly, Alana, you are haunted.

• 59:55Corinne Vien?

  That's the haunted house.

• 59:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Well, I have one more to end us on and then.

• 59:59Corinne Vien?

  We have a Patreon extra.

• 1:00:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If you're a Patreon member, if you're an OnlyFan to mom Patreon, you actually get a whole other ass story. Just for you.

• 1:00:08Corinne Vien?

  A whole ass full of story.

• 1:00:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, a whole ass full of story. That just made me think of like Regina George where they say her hair is so big because it's so full of secrets.

• 1:00:16Corinne Vien?

  Full of secrets.

• 1:00:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Our asses are so big because it's so full of ghost stories.

• 1:00:20Corinne Vien?

  Patreon asses.

• 1:00:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, this is from my listener Julie and it is called, "I lived in a demonic house. I just discovered you wonderful ladies recently and I am obsessed. You have unofficially become my coworkers since I have been listening in every time I'm at work. And now my coworkers know if my headphones are in, it is spooky time."

• 1:00:39Corinne Vien?

  Do not disturb.

• 1:00:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  With that being said, I have a story about what I believe was a demonic house that I lived in and I think you'll love it.

• 1:00:47Corinne Vien?

  I probably will.

• 1:00:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I definitely will. So for as long as I can remember, I've always been in tune with the spiritual side. I was born into a haunted house with an old lady spirit who would watch over me, according to my mom. So when I say as long as I remember, I genuinely mean I was born into it. So that house with the old lady spirit is not the same house that I'm about to talk about, but I just wanted to give you context.

• 1:01:11Corinne Vien?

  The context is you have a lot of hauntings and you've experienced a lot of the paranormal.

• 1:01:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're a haunted bitch. I've always been able to see, feel and speak to what others could not. And it never bothered me. I've always been very friendly with spirits I've encountered. And for some reason, I can never seem to stay away from them. Like I'm oddly attracted to haunted places, like a moth to a flame. And I've always liked it until my family moved into a new house when I was 15. We were moving from Colorado to Virginia and my mom had found this beautiful house in Virginia on George Washington's property. Every front door in the neighborhood had a plaque on the door stating the land was historic. That was all of these houses. This house was bigger than any house we'd previously lived in, which was exciting. It was a three-story house with a basement that had a storage room and a closet, which will be important for later.

• 1:02:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And me, my mom and two younger sisters were so excited when we first got there. But we had no idea of what was to come. The first few months were fine, but we all kind of avoided the basement because it just had a vibe. And me, being a typical teenager, not wanting to be bothered, I decided that since everyone avoided the basement, I would then go hang out there and play video games and hang with my friends because no one else would bother us. So I would spend hours down there, sometimes until three or four AM just playing games. I was and still am a huge night owl, and so most nights I would be the only one awake. And I loved spending time down there, but usually after midnight, yeah, I started to feel uneasy. But I just chalked it up to being late at night and the rest of the house being dark.

• 1:02:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then I don't know what came over me, but one night I decided I wanted to explore the storage room in the basement. That one room that none of us had ever been brave enough to go into. So I paused my game and I went to go open the storage room door. I went in and immediately I felt uneasy. The storage room looked unfinished and rundown with one small dingy light bulb in the ceiling to light up the entire room and a small well in the corner of the room. This was a stark difference compared to the rest of the basement, which was finished and updated. And it had a living room just on the other side of the storage room door. So I immediately nope'd out of there and I was like, well, I'm never going in there again. Left the room and decided the vibe was weird. I should go upstairs to my room and go to bed.

• 1:03:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But for some reason, as I was about to walk back upstairs, I noticed the closet at the bottom of the stairs, which we used to store holiday decorations. I had no reason to open it, but for some reason I felt compelled to.

• 1:03:38Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 1:03:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everything this night.

• 1:03:40Corinne Vien?

  This, everything is going a little different.

• 1:03:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And everything like she's being pulled and called to do. So gosh, I don't know why, but I opened this closet and I was like, yeah, okay, just decorations. Why did I open it? And I was about to close it when I saw a little door on the sidewall inside the closet. Y'all, I definitely would not survive in a horror movie because I was like, ooh, what's this? And I went to investigate. This small door was locked with one of those old school hook locks and it was really stuck in there. I assume for being locked for so long, but against my better judgment, I didn't let this jam lock stop me. And I fought with it for a good 10 to 15 minutes before I finally got it unlocked. Successfully, I ripped open that door and I was immediately hit with the most awful, evil feeling I have ever felt in my life.

• 1:04:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The instant feeling of regret and I should not have done that feeling. And here's what was inside. Inside this previously locked door was a crawl space with a single mattress in the middle of what I assume was left there from previous tenants. I quickly closed the door and I locked it again and I ran upstairs to my room to go to sleep. But I think when I opened that door, I let something out that I never should have.

• 1:04:53Corinne Vien?

  So creepy.

• 1:04:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That night, I vividly remember my dreams were just flashes of a demonic looking face over and over again. After that, the house never felt the same again. And to this day, it's the place where I've experienced the most evil haunting I've ever dealt with. So the next day I woke up and I decided not to tell my family about the closet in the basement because I knew they would tell me it's fine. And the nighttime just scared me, which yeah, at the time, partially I was like, maybe that's true. So I went about my days, but things started happening. It started with the feeling of being watched. And everyone in the house felt it, but no one acknowledged it. Then I started hearing my name being called when no one would be home. My little sister, who we'll call A, also experienced this too, but at the time she was a skeptic and just brushed it off. At this point, I knew there was an entity in the house with us.

• 1:05:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And so I decided to tell my mom, but she told me I was crazy and that it was all in my head.

• 1:05:43Corinne Vien?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:05:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I decided I wanted to know who was there since I knew I could somewhat communicate with spirits. So I started to try to talk out loud to whatever was with me anytime something would happen. Well, as you can guess, this amped up the haunting a lot. Now more things were happening. I would hear people walking into the room or up and down the stairs. And I would think it was my mom or sisters, so I would turn to greet them, but no one would be there. This happened so many times. The noise of footsteps would come up from the bottom of the stairs to the top and it would stop once it reached the top or it would approach a door to a room, but never enter the room. Then it progressed to seeing shadow people and shadowed children, which happened so often, I started seeing them every day. But there were two distinct times this happened.

• 1:06:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One time I was laying on the couch, home alone, in the living room, watching TikTok on my phone, when I saw a small shadow run behind the other couch. And at first I kind of didn't realize what I saw and I ignored it until I saw the head of this shadow peek up from behind the couch to look at me. It had no face, just a black shroud, but I could feel it staring.

• 1:06:49Corinne Vien?

  There's something so creepy about the peekers.

• 1:06:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I dropped my phone to look at it, but as soon as I looked at it, it ducked down behind the couch like a child playing hide and seek, which freaked me out so much. And I tried to think maybe my sister was home and trying to play with me. So I called to her, still not moving from where I was sitting on the other couch out of fear, but also not taking my eyesight away from where I just saw this figure. A doesn't answer. I know that she's not home, so I call her. Sure enough, she's not home. I decided to be brave. I get up, I peek behind the couch and yo, there's nothing there. The second time I remember seeing this is when my mom came home with groceries at night and asked me and my sister A to help bring them in from the car. As we're bringing in the last of our groceries from outside, I look out onto our front yard

• 1:07:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  and by the tree, I see a shadow person behind the tree peeking out staring at us. I asked my sister if she saw it and she got this weird look on her face and told me to hurry up inside so we can go put the groceries away. But she never answered if she saw it or not. I told my mom again, but at this point I had told her so many times about the haunting. She told me to stop talking about it, but I could tell she was scared. I called my dad because I needed someone to believe me because at this point I was really starting to feel crazy. My dad told me he doesn't know why my mom is being that way because when she was in high school, she would always see things and nobody believed her. Cause she was used to that. I know. So with that information, I knew my mom was seeing them too, but was scared.

• 1:08:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My dad went on to tell me that my family, both on his side and my mom's side, have a history with the occult. My grandfather even made deals with the devil, which I'll tell you more about in another story.

• 1:08:24Corinne Vien?

  My god, did it start with him?

• 1:08:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Probably. After I found this out, it made me realize that maybe this entity was darker than I originally thought. When I found this out, the vibe completely switched in our house to something much darker, like something with playing pretend, pretending to be nice. And the moment I thought it was dark, it showed its true colors. Over the next few months, everyone in the house was arguing. Everything was negative. There were more shadow people, more noises, and now the entity was interacting with the physical realm. We started noticing things were moving, doors were being knocked on, electrical things started messing up. And I was the only one who was acknowledging that we were dealing with a haunting.

• 1:09:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Until A came barging into my room one day so mad, asking why the hell I was banging on her bathroom door so aggressively while she was showering. But I wasn't. When I swore up and down that I had not done that, she looked at me scared. She told me that while she was in the shower, her door was being pounded on so aggressively that she could see it shaking from the knocks.

• 1:09:25Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god.

• 1:09:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was so aggressive that she got out of the shower, long opened the door to tell me who she thought was knocking to stop. But no one was there. We were both so freaked out that we put crucifixes in our room, even though neither of us were religious. Things continued to happen, but the last big event that happened before my mom decided we needed to move was the worst. And it was the closest, I think, to being harmed by an entity. So.

• 1:09:50Corinne Vien?

  Not to make this about me, but like part of this email and like these stories, it's reminded me so much of my sophomore year. College dorm.

• 1:09:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, that's so scary.

• 1:10:01Corinne Vien?

  Like the knocking and banging happened to Marissa when she was in the shower. Bang, bang, bang. And she was like, oh my god, I'll be out in a minute. No one's there.

• 1:10:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. So it was me, A and our three-year-old sister, home alone. A and my three-year-old sister were downstairs playing. I was upstairs taking a shower. Shower was normal, no banging on the door this day, but I did forget to bring my clothes with me to the bathroom. So I needed to go to my room to change. I get to my room and I lock the door, which is something I never do. But while I'm changing, I hear my doorknob rattle and I respond, one second, guys, I'm changing, thinking it was one of my sisters. But the doorknob starts rattling harder and more aggressively. Now I get annoyed and I yell, what the fuck? I said just a minute. This is when, and I swear on everything I love that this is true. I saw a small child shadow hand reach under my door. I could see the fingers and everything, but it was shrouded in a dark shadow.

• 1:10:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I freaked out, even without putting on the rest of my clothes on. I run to the door, unlock it, rip it open. There's nothing there.

• 1:11:01Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this is reminding me way too much of stuff. Because the shadow figure that me and Marissa would see was like four feet tall. Ah. Like a little kid. Oh, God. I'm sorry. I understand the fear.

• 1:11:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, terrifying. Not too long after that, my mom moved us out of the house. But here's why I believe whatever was there is demonic. My mom had a lot of trouble selling the house after we moved. And we would have to come back every now and then to maintain the yard and clean. So about a month after we moved out, we came back to clean and the entire house molded. The entire house.

• 1:11:33Corinne Vien?

  Excuse me.

• 1:11:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't mean a little mold. I mean our previously white walls were completely black to the point that it was a biohazard to be inside. They said that the basement flooded somehow, but they had no idea how. And what's crazy is that, yes, it spread throughout our entire house.

• 1:11:49Corinne Vien?

  My God.

• 1:11:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the basement and stairs to the basement looked straight out of a Resident Evil game. It didn't look real, like it looked post-apocalyptic. Before we moved, I made sure to lock that crawl space in the basement. But when we found the mold in the basement, we also found that crawl space door wide open.

• 1:12:06Corinne Vien?

  No, no.

• 1:12:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so scary to think that we had stayed in that house even a month longer than that if we had stayed in that house even a month longer, how serious of danger we would have been in with all that mold.

• 1:12:18Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. No, that's so freaking freaky. How does the door open?

• 1:12:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  By itself. I definitely learned some valuable lessons about the spiritual world after living in this house and have become a lot more educated on my gifts. And I will never again open a door that doesn't feel right. Especially if all of a sudden I'm overcome by this feeling and voice telling me to open it.

• 1:12:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you for allowing a safe space to share my stories. Trust you will be hearing from me again soon. From Julie.

• 1:12:47Corinne Vien?

  Damn, Julie. It's really bad. I am glad that they weren't in the house because with the black mold and stuff like that, so.

• 1:12:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, and also, it's one thing for black mold to be there. But for it to grow to the point where the white walls have turned black, that doesn't happen in a month.

• 1:13:04Corinne Vien?

  No, there's plenty of other houses that have been flooded and things like that.

• 1:13:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:08Corinne Vien?

  It does make me wonder if they were there, like what would have happened in terms of their interactions with the paranormal? Because like a lot of people say like, have you checked your carbon dioxide detectors? You have mold. When people are having like hallucinations or paranormal experiences or whatever.

• 1:13:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or is it like September House where every month, something different happens?

• 1:13:26Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 1:13:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The mold is September.

• 1:13:29Corinne Vien?

  Well, join us on Patreon for Two Girls, One Ghost Book Club if you want to read things like September House and other good books with us.

• 1:13:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And join us on Patreon if you want one more story about a haunted house.

• 1:13:39Corinne Vien?

  Yes, this is about the house that made us physically sick and tried to harm us.

• 1:13:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lovely. We'll see you on Patreon. You can also get a lot of other bonuses on Patreon, like Campfire Stories, where you can come every week and share your ghost stories with us live. We also have episodes one week early and ad-free, book club, like you mentioned, witch class, so many other things. So go check it out on Patreon. But until then, we love you. Thanks for being here. Tell your friends and family about our podcast and rate and review us wherever you listen.

• 1:14:07Corinne Vien?

  And shout out to Jamie Ryan, who edits and produces our podcast. We love Jamie. We love all of you and we will. See you on the other side.

• 1:14:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or see you on Patreon.

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