Fraud Friday: Smells Like Teen Swindling w/ Demi Adejuyigbe

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Demi Adejuyigbe (Neon, The Good Place) to discuss Kane Gamble, a 15-year-old who wreaked havoc on several US government officials sometimes with just his phone. Plus, the Orlando Museum of Art is under fire after displaying 25 fake Jean-Michel Basquiat paintings. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 08/01/2022) CONgregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes book? Look no more, nab your copy here on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Demi Adejuyigbe: @electrolemon Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-investigating-claim-of-hack-on-cia-director-email/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cia-director-and-dhs-secretary-emails-hacked/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/4xav5m/teen-who-hacked-cia-email-is-back-to-prank-us-spy-chief https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2018/01/22/hack-social-engineering/ https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-43840075 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/20/two-years-detention-for-uk-teenager-who-cyberterrorised-us-officials-kane-gamble https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3ekk5/kane-gamble-cracka-back-online-after-a-two-year-internet-ban https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/19/british-15-year-old-gained-access-intelligence-operations-afghanistan/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/30/orlando-museum-director-fired-fbi-raid-basquiat/7780681001/ https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/orlando-museum-of-art-director-told-art-expert-who-had-doubts-about-basquiat-exhibit-to-stay-in-her-limited-lane-31912843

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• 2:00Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:41Laci Mosley?

  Can't stop poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and I'm here with another installment of, yes, Scam Goddess, the podcast all about robbery and fraud and those who practice it. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them, we will see. As always, come on, parasocial girls, where are my blue clothes girlies? Where are my Tabitha Brown girlies? I'm so what? Yes, excited. And hi, how are you? Oh, my gosh, that's crazy. That's crazy, it can work for anything, good or bad or boring. That works for us, right? I'm glad y'all are doing it. Well, you know what, you're here, okay? That's all we can do, the best we can. Like Mariah Carey says, "I'mma do the best with what I got", okay? And that's what we are gonna do. And speaking of the best, we have an amazing guest on today. He's a comedian and a writer.

• 3:26Laci Mosley?

  He's the co-host of the comedy podcast, Gilmore Guys and Punch Up the Jam. I know you know those, they are poppin'. He's written for The Late Late Show with James Corrigan, The Amber Ruffin Show, and many, many Mariah Lyssisman's credits for days. And like, if you haven't seen the viral September videos that raised like, hella, hella money for charity, like, this man is a saint. Congregation, please welcome Demi Adjewiwe.

• 3:49Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 3:51Laci Mosley?

  Okay, did I get it? We've been practicing.

• 3:53Speaker 04

  Got it, you got it. You didn't do it with the Nigerian accent this time. I wanted you to throw that Wakanda flair on there.

• 3:57Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Demi Adjewiwe.

• 3:59Speaker 04

  There it is.

• 4:00Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Omo Nigeria, omo Nigeria. I'm Mike from my Nigerian congregation. Y'all know I'm also fake Nigerian. They dropped me off on the boat. I don't know where it docked. You know, I don't know, I don't know where they picked us up at, okay, but I know I'm from over there.

• 4:13Speaker 04

  That counts. No, that's honorary Nigerian status.

• 4:16Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much. Honestly, I wanna marry a Nigerian because I'm trying to have a lit ass wedding with cute fascists and I want people to throw money at me.

• 4:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's, yeah, that's the big plus. I didn't know that the money thing was a thing until uh, my dad had his sixtieth birthday party and he hired a saxophonist and was like, yeah, here, go dance and throw money at the guy. And I was like, what are you talking about? That's not, it's not a thing. He's like, yeah, no, it is in Nigeria. I was like, okay. It's great.

• 4:41Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Wait, so you were born in America?

• 4:43Speaker 04

  I was born in London.

• 4:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I feel like I knew that for some reason. Maybe I'll be stalking you.

• 4:48Speaker 04

  Cause it's my only fun fact about myself. I tell everybody. I used to have a British accent. I don't. I used to though.

• 4:54Laci Mosley?

  Okay, see, but why didn't you just keep the British accent? I know a guy who left London when he was eight and when we were in college, he'd be like, talking like this, like, and then I'm like, I know you've been in America long enough to have an American accent.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  I, I was too young to realize the value of it. Cause I was like four when I left and then I, I think I lost by the time I was six. And I think if I had just kept it a little bit longer, people would be like, that's a cool accent. I'd be like, oh, okay. Yeah, they don't British yet.

• 5:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, in it, in it, bro.

• 5:18Speaker 04

  In it.

• 5:19Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, you should have kept it. Cause the, the girlies, especially in our industry, ooh, they loves them a black Brit, okay? I will walk around with tea everywhere. Just a cup with a saucer.

• 5:30Speaker 04

  Oh, it's, well, Boris is done now. Oh, it's proper mad, yeah?

• 5:33Laci Mosley?

  Ooh.

• 5:34Speaker 04

  Fuck. I could have had Daniel Kuliya's career.

• 5:37Laci Mosley?

  You could have, damn.

• 5:38Speaker 04

  You're always gonna stop me.

• 5:39Laci Mosley?

  You playing, you playing. You, you, it's, it's not too late. I mean, you can pull Madonna, go back, you got the, you know, citizenship to prove it. I wouldn't question it.

• 5:48Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  I would love it. I also do have to say that, um, I feel like the last time I ran into your person was a while ago. I was shooting a black ladies sketch show and someone had posted about, um, the food bank, like needing, you know, certain things. So I, cause it was so close to work. I went and I was dropping off stuff and you helped me unload your car. You were there dropping off stuff too. Like you're always doing nice things for the community, like quietly and secretly. I just think you're a really dope person. So I'm glad to have you here.

• 6:14Speaker 04

  I'm very happy to be here. I love this podcast.

• 6:17Laci Mosley?

  Yes, like, we love you. Okay, so I have to ask you. What is your relationship with scams? Like, have you ever been scammed? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Clearly you didn't run your British scam, so you need to get back in your bag.

• 6:29Speaker 04

  I don't have the confidence to run scams, but I love, I love scams so much. I think about scams constantly. I like, there are times where it's like, I will just be having to do something for something else and then realize, oh, I could turn this into a scam. And there are times where like people attempt scams on me and I'm never mad. I'm just always sort of like, oh, you gotta try harder. Like, if I get like a wrong number text, I'm just sort of like, nah, nah, that's not how you do it. Like, it just makes me upset that they didn't try harder to get me. Cause I would love to be gotten. And this is not an open invitation to anyone listening to like, I'm not.

• 6:59Laci Mosley?

  Dude, I was about to say, don't say that. They'll try.

• 7:00Speaker 04

  Leave me alone. Yeah, I'm, I'm playing. But eh, but like, so, uh, we had a cat that got out, um, a couple, like a month ago or so. And we had to go around and put up like lost cat flyers and I had to put them on people's cars. And at one point I was like, I bet if I come back tomorrow and see that a car doesn't have, that it still has the thing on it, that means they haven't been there. That means I could break into that car. Like, that's how my mind works sometimes where it's like, oh, I feel like I could figure out how to turn this real thing into a scam.

• 7:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I love this. You're just like, you're scam hypothetical. You're like, I could break everybody in here.

• 7:33Speaker 04

  Right. I, I had like a sad thing. I was like, oh, this cat's out. You could turn this into a scam.

• 7:38Laci Mosley?

  Right. Now, I feel you on that. I, um, I have to say though, I do love you being like the Lori Harvey of scams. Like you're just like a bad bitch and you're like, please try to get me, but you're not good enough.

• 7:49Speaker 04

  Here's, here's the first five digits in my social. Get the rest.

• 7:53Laci Mosley?

  Now, here's, now you're giving them clues.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:57Laci Mosley?

  Wait, if you were born in the UK, do you have a UK social? Or do you have, how does that work?

• 8:02Speaker 04

  I have an American, uh, social security number, but I do have a British passport still.

• 8:07Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 8:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:08Laci Mosley?

  See, we giving them, I'm giving y'all hints out there. Okay, guys. So we know it's American.

• 8:14Laci Mosley?

  Y'all are nine digits away from robbing Dibby. Not just nine digits.

• 8:18Speaker 04

  They got different digits in the UK though, cause they got, you know, different letters. Could be a Z in there. You don't know.

• 8:24Laci Mosley?

  That's true. That's true. Look at him saucing it up. I love this. But Jimmy, so on this podcast, we like to warn people in the streets about what's hot and fraud and what's popping in the zeitgeist. But more often than not these days, we usually just get a listener letter and let people snitch on their friends and family. Just like we say on this podcast, snitch on your friends and family. Uh, just make sure the scam is retired because we don't want to what? Yes. Fuck up your bag. So, Dibby, I need a fake name for this person. Gender doesn't matter on this show. It's a construct.

• 8:53Speaker 04

  Grinko Belova.

• 8:56Laci Mosley?

  Grinko, not even Ginko? Grinko Beloba?

• 8:58Speaker 04

  Grinko Beloba.

• 9:01Laci Mosley?

  Definitely a scam name. Like, y'all know Vitamans. Y'all got with some Grinko Beloba? It's real good for memory.

• 9:08Speaker 04

  They were, their name was Grinko Johnson, and they married into the Beloba family, so.

• 9:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that's fancy. I feel like the Beloba family got money.

• 9:15Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:16Laci Mosley?

  That's the kind of situation I'm trying to be involved in.

• 9:19Speaker 04

  Grinko.

• 9:20Laci Mosley?

  Grinko says, hi, Lacey. My first job I got as a broke college student, uh, was at a mom and pop toy store. They had four to five employees, including the owner. So, we didn't have many hours. We got paid every two weeks, and multiple times I had checks of sixty and seventy bucks. When I asked for more hours, they said their sales didn't warrant more hours. So, when I worked there alone, I would take five to ten dollars from the register to buy lunch at the Chinese spot across the street. I mean, I see no problems.

• 9:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's not a scam. That's you getting what you deserve, not even what you deserve.

• 9:57Laci Mosley?

  Right, if you're a broke college freshman, and you're getting sixty to seventy bucks every two weeks. Now, listen, I don't know, I don't know how money works in college, because somehow, I could take like a little, like a hundred dollars, I could make that money money. I could get outfits, I could buy alcohol off seniors, I could do a lot with that. And now, like, a hundred dollars, I'm like, that's like a gas.

• 10:20Speaker 04

  I mean, it's an internship with tips, like, that's not proper in any way.

• 10:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it doesn't feel like this. How many hours were you working, girl? One?

• 10:31Laci Mosley?

  Did you come in and work three hours a week on three separate days?

• 10:35Speaker 04

  And she said they weren't paying her, right? Like?

• 10:38Laci Mosley?

  She said, yes.

• 10:39Speaker 04

  As in?

• 10:40Laci Mosley?

  Well, they paid her every two weeks.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  Okay, so it wasn't like, oh, they just were like, sorry, we can't pay you this week? Either way, every two weeks, that's not, what the hell?

• 10:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they never hit her with the we ain't got it. You did. Honestly, obviously, you kept working at this job, Grinko, because you were like, well, I'm getting free lunch, and as a broke college student, a, a free lunch is cute to me. That's how they get you to come sign up for anything. The military love to hang out places and be like, you want Applebee's?

• 11:08Speaker 04

  Oh, it's so crazy that you're only getting that much money. Imagine how much money you can get if you shot some people.

• 11:13Laci Mosley?

  Right. Do you wanna fight for big oil? Meet us at Chili's. Let's talk about it. You like Big Bang Ribs? Right. It's like, they know how to get, uh, the ones of us out there who need the coins and it's, it's usually not that much of an investment, which is so sad. But so she's decided that she gonna take her little five to ten dollars off the top, which I'm not mad at it. They never caught on because the owner did inventory once a year and never counted the till. Now, it sounds like these people are also bad business people because why are we only doing once a year?

• 11:46Speaker 04

  Well, well, this place was a front. That's not even good for the IRS if you're a business, like.

• 11:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's giving drug front. You know about our drug front out here that we go to in L.A., right?

• 11:56Speaker 04

  Uh, what's that?

• 11:58Laci Mosley?

  I'll, I'll, I'll tell you off of the pod name because I'm afraid. But no, every comedian out here at least knows that that one place is a bar and it's a bar that's always empty, you guys. And it's in like a weird strip mall, like next to a laundry place and, and just things that don't need to be next to bars. But all of our friends will throw parties there, birthday parties, New Year's parties, all these things. And it's like seedy, but like, you could really cheaply throw a party there because they don't have business and they don't need it.

• 12:26Speaker 04

  Right. They got a bathroom that you just can't get to. It's like, hmm, weird.

• 12:31Laci Mosley?

  Right. Y'all hear them gunshots? Oh, no, don't worry about it. That ain't no problem. That's just the song. Which is why I'm like, rappers, please stop putting gunshots in songs and sirens. We live in America. I can't be driving down the street.

• 12:43Speaker 04

  No. And they're quiet now too. There's like, oh, you want us to turn it down. It's like, no, because I'm just like, well, shit, I'm in my car. Is that, is that happening or not? Like?

• 12:50Laci Mosley?

  Right. I love that the rapper's solution, the producer's solutions for the rappers was like, oh, we can just turn the gunshots and the sirens down a little bit, but we must have them.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. How will people know this is rap if they're not hearing da, da and woo? Like what, like, I think we'll still know it's rap, guys.

• 13:05Speaker 04

  It's just foley artists. You're just doing like ADR, but it's like cool.

• 13:10Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's like, we don't need that. We're, guys, we're stressed out enough. So. This probably, this place is giving drug friends to me. Gricko says they never caught on because the owner did inventory once a year, like we said, and never counted the tilt. Over the four point five years, that four point five years.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  That's too long. That's, that's all of college and then half an extra year.

• 13:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what, did you go and get your grad degree or are you in, are you a doctor?

• 13:36Speaker 04

  She was like, I'm saving up for one, like DVD or something. That's how much she got paid.

• 13:42Laci Mosley?

  Right. Four and a half years, you, you were robbing them. So it's four and a half years I worked there. I probably borrowed around twenty to forty dollars a month. I didn't feel bad because I had been promoted in title only, no pay raise. And he would specifically hire black girls. I'm a black girl. Okay, if you a black girl. To make it seem like a black owned business when it wasn't.

• 14:04Speaker 04

  What the fuck?

• 14:06Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so you should have been stealing from him. Not him having only black women and underpaying them criminally so that he looks like he black owned.

• 14:14Speaker 04

  Oh, my god.

• 14:16Laci Mosley?

  I imagine this is like some bootleg looking toy, like Toys R Us. This is like Toys R M where toys for us, by us.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  Tubu?

• 14:25Laci Mosley?

  Tubu.

• 14:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no. By the end, my checks were bigger than sixty dollars, but it was the principle of the situation. Come on, principalities, we understand.

• 14:37Speaker 04

  Even though sixty is such a low bar, every two weeks.

• 14:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't know what I would do if I got a check for sixty dollars and that was really like my two week paycheck. Like, somebody gonna have to get their ass beat.

• 14:49Speaker 04

  I'm not going for four weeks. Like, it'd just be like, okay, I'm not, no, this isn't how it should go. That's why.

• 14:54Laci Mosley?

  I'm definitely not working for four and a half years. Girl, you could have got a job anywhere that it would pay more than this. I think you, it must have been cushy. She probably did, she just unlocked the store. And locked it back up and stole money and had her Chinese food lunch every day.

• 15:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, she's like, no one needs to buy toys on this college campus.

• 15:13Laci Mosley?

  Right. I feel like you were just hanging out. You probably, this seems like the kind of job that you would have your friends stop by. Like, you know, your friends will have shift places. They'd be like, y'all just come to Cold Stone. I'll give y'all some ice cream. We can hang out.

• 15:22Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, I have those.

• 15:24Laci Mosley?

  Cold Stone is this what I call like the teriyaki bar but for like ice cream cuz they cook it in front of you. It's like it's like going to one of like a Benihana but for ice cream.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  Is Cold Stone the one where they gotta turn it upside down to be like it's not falling out?

• 15:38Laci Mosley?

  That's Dairy Queen.

• 15:39Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 15:40Laci Mosley?

  And I've never unders- I've never understood why Dairy Queen thought that was a flex like I'm not turning my ice cream upside down.

• 15:46Speaker 04

  It's so people fall out the cup. I don't care. That's not a plus to me.

• 15:50Laci Mosley?

  Our ice cream is thick with two Cs. It's like Dairy Queen, no one asked. It doesn't matter to us.

• 15:55Speaker 04

  We're selling you a brick.

• 15:57Laci Mosley?

  Literally. They're like, you want a brick? You want a brick of that cream? Scum.

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• 18:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's a very bizarre thing. It's just like how Skittles says, taste the rainbow. Like nigga, no one's ever tasted a rainbow. And in the same way that nobody knows what a rainbow tastes like, Skittles flavors are not actual flavors of anything. And now they saying it's got some poisons up in it that's gonna kill you.

• 18:25Speaker 04

  What? What? Is this new?

• 18:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this is new. Googled it, Shaw. They said, don't eat the Skittles no more, girlies. Allegedly, Skittles, don't try to sue me. But they said allegedly you're not supposed to be eating them. And I know this as a fact that they are supposed to be the least nutritional candy. Like I think they have no nutritional value.

• 18:42Speaker 04

  That makes, I mean, perfect sense. I couldn't, I can't imagine a single thing in there that could be nutritious, like.

• 18:48Laci Mosley?

  What about Red 40? They don't got riboflavin in there?

• 18:53Speaker 04

  I don't think they do. I think somebody told you a lie. You're eating them E40.

• 18:57Laci Mosley?

  Kool-Aid got riboflavin. E40. Yeah, I feel like Skittles, if they're not supposed to be for human consumption, they must have some other use that we can make for them.

• 19:08Speaker 04

  It's like a hamster meal. It's like, it's just like food version of the stuff that you put like for a hamster to sleep on.

• 19:16Laci Mosley?

  Now, why would you, have you ever had a hamster? Cause that's such a specific reference.

• 19:21Speaker 04

  I have not. And I also know, like texture wise, it is absolutely not the same. But I'm saying like, that's probably what the food is made out of. But it's like, oh, you can't eat this. It's like, probably it's not meant for, to be eaten.

• 19:31Laci Mosley?

  Human consumption.

• 19:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:33Laci Mosley?

  My family had a hamster. I almost lucky called PETA on my family because it was something going on with the animals at the house. Like they weren't beating them. Don't try to call the SPCA on my family. It was just like, you know how black families like? They just certain like this is I don't know it's like a certain age group I wanna say like Gen X and maybe boomers like if they give animals or pets and stuff it's like the pet is usually outside or they're like oh you know like they're not nowadays we treat our pets like they're literal children we take them to the vet all the time and weighing them and giving them the best gourmet dog food and whatever we had a hamster and the hamster stayed in the laundry room which I was like doesn't the hamster need to see people during the day no he like it in there we give him carrots

• 20:16Speaker 04

  yeah we treated him like a king

• 20:18Laci Mosley?

  he in the laundry

• 20:19Speaker 04

  he eats once every two weeks

• 20:23Laci Mosley?

  he he eat Chinese food for fifteen dollars what you talking about the hamster living good I was like no guys I really do not think the hamster's living good and then one time I came home this was in college when they had this hamster for my little sister and um the hamster was just not in the laundry room and I was like what happened to the hamster and they're like oh he um he's gone

• 20:45Speaker 04

  there's no there's no story of a family having a hamster that doesn't just end in like oh the hamster is suddenly gone it's not like a oh we knew he was sick and it's it was sad it's like the hamster died please move on

• 20:58Laci Mosley?

  right we never you're right it never seems like someone's like oh a little I don't know what's a hamster name Otis I don't know

• 21:06Speaker 04

  little Otis yeah

• 21:08Laci Mosley?

  hamster I feel like they're never like little Otis ain't on his wheel as much as he used to be maybe we should take it to the vet they're just like I don't know we walked in little Otis was dead I'm like

• 21:17Speaker 04

  I think it's cuz they're hamsters are small and they're just like what I'm not like taking a tiny thing putting in my hands going to the vet like I think it truly is a size thing like the bigger thing is the more you gotta care for it so a cat and a dog you're like that's that's a that's a kid but a hamster is like I literally might not see this thing today

• 21:35Laci Mosley?

  yeah and I feel like they never even say the hamster died they just like it's gone like anytime somebody's had a hamster and then it died they're just like yeah it's gone I'm like what that mean

• 21:43Speaker 04

  it was never alive to them they were just like okay yeah this little toy we had has disappeared I don't care

• 21:48Laci Mosley?

  right I think it's cuz also like cats and dogs you're right they're larger but they're also emotionally intelligent and they'll like come check on you and like kick it with you depending on what kinda cats you got cuz some cats are assholes they're just like girl

• 22:03Laci Mosley?

  right cuz I feel like dogs be like how was your day what you do what you see who'd you know cats are like oh you home bitch you bring food

• 22:11Laci Mosley?

  Don't fuck around and die cuz I'm gonna eat your face immediately.

• 22:14Speaker 04

  One of my cats I know is waiting for me to die. They're setting traps.

• 22:19Laci Mosley?

  Not setting traps.

• 22:23Speaker 04

  You gotta feed me over here under this box. This box has a little stick under it. Come on.

• 22:29Laci Mosley?

  You wake up your cats over you with a knife.

• 22:32Laci Mosley?

  What's going on?

• 22:33Speaker 04

  I'd be impressed.

• 22:34Laci Mosley?

  And it's time for Historic Good Wings. This is where I will regale Demi with a famous Connor Caper group of criminals. We don't know yet. We'll see if we like them or we hate them. Y'all know how this show goes. I'm noting up top that there are some mentions of the Palestinian conflict and a very brief mention of Officer Darren Wilson's raggedy bitch ass. Uh, who was involved in the assassination of the teenager, Michael Brown. So, but you know, we're gonna try to, we try to keep it light over here. The world is so dark, but you know, just a warning y'all up there. Between June twenty fifteen and February twenty sixteen, fifteen year old Kane Gamble wreaked havoc on social media accounts, inboxes, and on occasion, smart houses of several US government officials using little more than his phone.

• 23:16Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so Kane was a normal British teenager who ran, oh, he's British.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  That's a, that is not a normal British teenager. That is a, a, a British adult who's been shrunk in a face app.

• 23:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you right. This is like if you, what, what did you look like twenty years ago?

• 23:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. But also that is just how British teens look. They all look like they've been through some shit or like they're all, they all have knives on them, you know?

• 23:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he's definitely giving Oliver Twist.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 23:47Laci Mosley?

  It's please sir, can I have some more if that was a face? Like, we'll put it on the Instagram so y'all can see what he looks like, but it's, it's definitely giving Oliver Twist. Also, I don't know, he got the face of a, a criminal. His face is scary to me.

• 23:59Speaker 04

  It looks like, like Tom Holland's playing him in a movie or something. Like, it's like, he is, he looks like a criminal, but it's also a criminal where I'm just like, if I saw him, I think I'd kinda wanna tussle his hair and be like, don't stab me. What are you doing? Go play.

• 24:11Laci Mosley?

  Right. You little whippersnapper. Put that knife away.

• 24:14Speaker 04

  Oh, here's a ball. Go on now, give it a kick.

• 24:17Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Okay, Demi, come on. You gotta be British after this show. Like, you gotta.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  I'm British. I'm doing it, bro. I'm doing it.

• 24:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, do it. It's so good. It sounds so good on the ear. I love it.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 24:26Laci Mosley?

  So, thank you with that F.

• 24:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I know the Brits are tired of me. I'm sorry, y'all. You signed up for this. So he's a normal British teenager who ran his entire operation from the bedroom of his Coyleville, Leicestershire, home that he shared with his mother. His home that he shared with his mother? What you mean his home that he shared with his mother?

• 24:52Speaker 04

  His teen, also, he was a teen, so it's just from his home. This isn't like, oh, yeah, well, he's got his own place, but he's at his mom's.

• 24:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we don't expect for teens to be like, yeah, my mama live with me. Like, he live with his mama. But also, like, if you trifling out there and you, and you, or look, it's not even about being trifling, because millennials, we are, if my parents lived in Los Angeles, I would still live with them.

• 25:11Speaker 04

  Oh, absolutely.

• 25:12Laci Mosley?

  That would be a great grift to save money on, on rent and shit. But like, if you out there and you still live with your mama, you gotta start saying that. You gotta be like, oh, yeah, I share a home with my mom.

• 25:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. I feel like he wrote this Wikipedia page. Like, he, he's just like, I mean, it wasn't my mom's house. This is how I shared with my mom.

• 25:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I shared it with my mom. Oh, she paid all the bills, but we were sharing it. You get it, right?

• 25:33Speaker 04

  I was working, you know, I was doing stuff.

• 25:35Laci Mosley?

  So his closest friend was his mother, Anne, a cleaner who had won a 1.6 million pound lottery in 1997, but lost all the money in doomed property deals. God damn.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  Okay, a lot of questions. Is that, I'm like, is that relevant to the story? Is this like, oh, the cleaner had to scam to get that money back? Or is it just, these are just, also, did the cleaner live with them? How does this cleaner come into the story?

• 26:00Laci Mosley?

  The mom is the cleaner.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. I was like, oh, it's, it's his best friend. I thought it was his best friend was his mom, and then also this cleaner. I'm like, okay.

• 26:11Laci Mosley?

  No, so Anne is the mama name. It sounds like Anne, duh.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  Oh, Anne.

• 26:15Laci Mosley?

  I should, I should have said Anne. I should have given it the British, like, it's Anne. So his mother, his mother's Anne. And Anne, yeah, Annabelle. Annabelle was a cleaner who had won 1.6 million pounds. Now, I gotta say, the pound is strong as fuck. 1.6 million pounds i- is a lot of USD. That's like,

• 26:34Speaker 04

  It's like $200.

• 26:38Laci Mosley?

  Right, you could you could buy America with one point six million pounds, our money's so fucking weak. Oh, so it's one point nine million dollars USD, thank you Judith. Uh, we were like, it's a billion dollars in US dollars, because our money's bitch.

• 26:50Speaker 04

  Most of him has two million pounds.

• 26:54Laci Mosley?

  Probably legitimately though, because a lot of his stuff is credit. I'm like, how much money you really got? What's in your bank account, though? What's in your checking and your savings?

• 27:02Speaker 04

  If you're white and African, you got the world.

• 27:05Laci Mosley?

  Right, so, I mean, you know, you can win the lottery, and then if you don't know how to make financially sound decisions, or if you have a lot of people in your life who have somehow, you know, taken advantage of you, or got or cajoled you into sharing the money, you could end up in a worse situation, and in fact, they call it like the lottery curse, like a lot of people end up more broke than they were before, or dead, or, you know, windfall is a dangerous thing if you don't know how to manage it, because people gonna try to steal. Which is why if I ever won the lottery, like, bro, if I have to go accept the money, I'm coming in a ski mask.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  I think someone did that, like, I think there is, like, a photo or a video of someone, like, wearing like a ghostface mask, accepting their lottery winnings. I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't, I'd be like, can I sign it under a fake name? Can I change my name temporarily?

• 27:48Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 27:48Speaker 04

  What can I do to be like, no one's seeing this?

• 27:50Laci Mosley?

  No one's seeing this, I don't want nobody to know me, I don't wanna, I don't, even publishers clearing house, they came to my house with that check, I.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  Turn that microphone camera off.

• 28:00Laci Mosley?

  Cut the cameras, dead ass.

• 28:02Speaker 04

  Deaders.

• 28:03Laci Mosley?

  I come back out with a pillowcase over my head, they're like, they gave this money to a Klansman?

• 28:10Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, I'm rich now, I don't care.

• 28:13Laci Mosley?

  Right, who gonna check me, boo, I'm a rich.

• 28:17Speaker 04

  If I win the lottery, I'm not even, like, showing up with a new pair of shoes, I don't want anyone suspecting, I'm getting a worse haircut, I'm looking like shit. It's like, damn, he's really not doing well, I will never ask him for anything.

• 28:27Laci Mosley?

  Right, I'm suddenly had to start wearing paper sacks and rags.

• 28:32Laci Mosley?

  Lacey had a lot of clothes, all of a sudden, she's literally wearing, like, rags, like, royal rags.

• 28:37Speaker 04

  I cry, we in pain, it's like, no, no, they they cut my, they cut me.

• 28:41Laci Mosley?

  Right, and it's like, no, I just saw you in the season, nah, nah, they, I ain't making.

• 28:45Speaker 04

  And I'm sick too.

• 28:48Laci Mosley?

  How broke?

• 28:51Laci Mosley?

  I can be, you know, like, it's not so wonderful no more.

• 28:56Laci Mosley?

  Living life and breathing air is all I can afford. Uh, here we go. Kane spent much of his time researching call centers and government resources to gather enough information to gain access to numerous accounts, not through traditional hacking, but social engineering. Now, what is that?

• 29:13Speaker 04

  The thing about this that freaks me out is that it's like, it's just kids doing research. I'm already like, what are you doing that for? You're supposed to hate school, but like doing research for scams that don't involve you like breaking laws. I'm just like, it feels like it should be commended. Like we shouldn't be like, damn, that sucks. We should just be like, this kid's got a talent. Like I'm proud of him.

• 29:36Laci Mosley?

  But he needs to be using it for good and not evil, like sir.

• 29:40Speaker 04

  Well, let's see who he scammed.

• 29:42Laci Mosley?

  Right. Hey, that we don't know yet. So, social engineering is the psychological manipulation of people into performing actions or divulging confidential information. I love how we was just like, we gave it a fancier title. Social engineering is just tricking people.

• 29:56Speaker 04

  It's lying.

• 29:57Laci Mosley?

  Lying. No, I'm a social engineer.

• 30:00Speaker 04

  Social engineer? Yeah, I got a degree.

• 30:03Laci Mosley?

  Now I'm a social engineer. What that mean? Oh, I, I tell untruths for a living.

• 30:09Laci Mosley?

  I weave a deception owns. That's my life. His first victim was the then director of the CIA, John Brennan. Now.

• 30:19Speaker 04

  Come the fuck off.

• 30:21Laci Mosley?

  Kane, you must have been talented. Not you, you didn't want to scam up. You didn't want to work your way up. You started with the head of the CIA. That feels like ambitious.

• 30:30Speaker 04

  It's so damning of the CIA though. Almost as damning as looking at this man's face and being like, oh, that's the head of the CIA, huh? Bald head. Uh, he looks angry.

• 30:40Laci Mosley?

  Man looks evil.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  He looks like he just got scammed, but he also looks like the villain in any children's cartoon.

• 30:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it looks like when he went to the bathroom, maybe he like zipped his pants up and his balls got caught in the zipper. And it stuck like that.

• 30:54Speaker 04

  Uh, no time to fix it. I gotta go give a speech to explain why a kid social engineered me out of money.

• 31:00Laci Mosley?

  Right. He's like, I gotta go waterboard. I don't got time to get my balls out of the zipper like.

• 31:05Speaker 04

  I I okay, I know it's like almost unfair to riff on a picture that the audience can't see, but doesn't he look like like an actor wearing a bunch of makeup for an Oscar role?

• 31:15Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it's giving prosthetics.

• 31:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:19Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it's giving um, the thing about Pam, Renee Zellweger, why are you in this fat suit and and this?

• 31:26Speaker 04

  Gary Oldman, it's giving.

• 31:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God, yes. Yes, and you guys will see the picture, we'll throw it up on the Instagram, I'm I'm gonna try to do it on time, guys, I swear. So this is his first victim is the head of the CIA, which we're not even gonna call the head of the CIA a victim like, ah, this head of the CIA has definitely done a lot of bad things, so you can't get that job without being evil.

• 31:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's allyship. This is British allyship.

• 31:49Laci Mosley?

  Right. So Kane was able to access the Verizon internet account of the director of the CIA by pretending to be a Verizon employee and then impersonating Mr. Brennan himself. Wowzers. My guy threw on a red polo and said, can you hear me now? Head of the CIA. Remember that campaign that used to be homeboy, he'd be like, can you hear me now?

• 32:11Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, yes. And then he moved to Sprint.

• 32:14Laci Mosley?

  Yes, he switched sides when his contract was up. That shit was savage.

• 32:19Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, brilliant.

• 32:21Laci Mosley?

  Right, that felt like some, I feel like Verizon was definitely waiting outside his house, like, like, bitch, you really gonna leave us like this? And so, just for reference, um, when this scam happened, this was under the Obama administration. So that's the time period that we're at.

• 32:37Speaker 04

  Can I just, that's too late for this to be a thing that worked. Like Verizon shouldn't have been that easy to crack and like John Brennan shouldn't have been like, I don't know, like cyber attacks were already big in like the early two thousands. It shouldn't like, a black man shouldn't be president and you still be able to be like, oh, I'm that other guy Verizon, let me into his phone.

• 32:58Laci Mosley?

  But I mean, if a black man could become president, maybe there was a glitch in the matrix at the time. Also, I just feel like the CIA is supposed to be the most secretive. Like y'all are supposed to have the highest clearance. Like everything in your life should be difficult to hack. How did somebody just call you and say, hey, hi, this is Daniel from Verizon. Is this the head of the CIA? Yeah, can I just your social real quick? We just, uh, we got some new anytime minutes that you can use anytime.

• 33:22Speaker 04

  They were so distracted. They were trying to undermine Obama's administration. They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, give my phone.

• 33:27Laci Mosley?

  Uh, right.

• 33:28Speaker 04

  Tan suit, tan suit.

• 33:29Laci Mosley?

  Tan suit, what do we do with that? How do we?

• 33:31Speaker 04

  What do we do? How do we?

• 33:33Laci Mosley?

  We could kill him for that, right?

• 33:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, anybody? Robbery.

• 33:38Speaker 05

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• 35:09Speaker 02

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• 35:42Laci Mosley?

  At first, he was denied access because he couldn't name Mr. Brennan's first pet. So when he tried to break in at first, you know, you gotta have first pet. We say it out here all the time, first pet, mother's maiden car. Like you gotta have all this information. But with each subsequent call, he tricked the phone agents into giving him bits of personal information about Mr. Brennan so that eventually he was able to change his PIN and security questions. I love calling several different times because you're gonna get, this is the beautiful thing about outsourcing. So when you're calling a lot of these major companies customer service, a lot of times you're talking to somebody in a completely different country who's just looking at a computer and just like, how can I help you? So you could call and talk to multiple different people so none of them know that you've been calling before, you know what I mean?

• 36:25Laci Mosley?

  Like it's not setting off any flags.

• 36:28Speaker 04

  You probably called him up like, what was your pet's name? Roger? No, damn, call him back. Uh, was it Greg? No, damn, I'm calling back, like.

• 36:36Laci Mosley?

  It's like, oh, you know what? I, I, I actually was hit by several buses last week and I'm having a little amnesia. Um, did it start with an S or R or the letters A through Z?

• 36:47Speaker 04

  You don't have to tell me what, just what kind of shape was it? Was it a tall shape? Was it a round shape of the first letter?

• 36:52Laci Mosley?

  Is it the kind of pet that if it dies, you just say that it's gone? Or is it the kind of pet that like you would take to the vet?

• 37:00Speaker 04

  Is this an Otis type deal or?

• 37:04Laci Mosley?

  Right, or a Fido type?

• 37:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:06Laci Mosley?

  Fido, let's go with Fido today. So it eventually worked. He used similar tactics to gain access to Mr. Brennan's AOL account, which sir, during the Obama administration, you had an AOL account and you weren't just using that to, I don't know, sign up for Pornhub? Like you were actually talking to people via AOL?

• 37:24Speaker 04

  And you're the head of the CIA.

• 37:27Speaker 04

  That's disappointing.

• 37:29Laci Mosley?

  But also at the same time, I guess at that time, like what's gonna be like more ironic and and feel more secure? Probably AOL, cuz everybody had a Gmail at that time.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Maybe, but you don't have like a at CIA dot com.

• 37:40Laci Mosley?

  Y'all hit me up on Hotmail. I'm CIA Daddy at Hotmail dot com.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  Brenna Boy at CIA dot com.

• 37:50Laci Mosley?

  I'm Waterboard Baby at Hotmail. Like, what? Um, so he uses this, he gets into his AOL account, which led him to remotely gain access to his other email contacts, his iCloud storage account, and his wife's iPad. So now this teenager is all the way, has made it to this, the wife's cloud.

• 38:11Speaker 04

  I would be, if I'm this teenager, I'm either feeling like the bravest person on earth, or I'm just like terrified, like, I'm just like, I don't know how you go that far without being like, oh, my God, I'm in the CIA's iPad, I should stop. But he's probably just like, fuck it, let's go.

• 38:26Laci Mosley?

  It feels like a good time. And also, what do you want? We still don't know what this baby wants.

• 38:30Speaker 04

  I have no idea. Yeah. CIA money, like?

• 38:34Laci Mosley?

  No clue. So those accounts held information that allowed him to access extremely sensitive accounts holding other information about military and intelligence operations in Afghanistan and in Iran. Additionally, a number of emails stored in Mr. Brennan's non-government account contained the social security numbers and personal information of more than a dozen top American intelligence officials, as well as a government letter about the use of harsh interrogation technique on terrorism suspects.

• 39:03Speaker 04

  This is like the plot of two Mission Impossible movies, and he got it by just being like, oh, my pet's name, it's a, you know my pet's name, you know my pet's name. Let's say it on a count of three.

• 39:12Laci Mosley?

  Right. One, two.

• 39:16Speaker 04

  Otis, yeah.

• 39:17Laci Mosley?

  Right, Otis, it was Otis. Mr. Nipples, yep, yep, that's what I was gonna say.

• 39:22Speaker 04

  Mr. Nipples is Gmail, that's my, yeah, that's me.

• 39:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's me. But Mr. Brennan was only the start to Kane's campaign, so he just started at the top.

• 39:30Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 39:31Laci Mosley?

  No Drake for him. That started at the bottom, now we here. He started at the summit. He was like, now we're going to the moon. What? Uh, with his mission against the US government, Kane founded the hacker group. Oh, no.

• 39:45Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 39:45Laci Mosley?

  The name of the hacker group?

• 39:47Speaker 04

  No, no. Okay, drop it on me.

• 39:51Laci Mosley?

  Crackers with attitude.

• 39:53Speaker 04

  No.

• 39:55Laci Mosley?

  C W A.

• 39:57Speaker 04

  Okay, on some level. I I appreciate it as a pun like with with like because crackers isn't like the guys that crack software and whatnot, but I don't know if that's what he was going for.

• 40:11Laci Mosley?

  Cause.

• 40:12Speaker 04

  As he is a white British child.

• 40:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. N W A is niggas with attitude and he said we are crackers with attitude. I think it is a double entendre though. It's like we we are technically saltine colored, I guess.

• 40:26Speaker 04

  How old was he at this time also? Is he? He's fifteen, you said?

• 40:30Laci Mosley?

  No, he's a teenager. I don't know how old he is at this time.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  Probably redacted.

• 40:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh, fifteen. No, I said it. You're right. He was fifteen years old. So also kind of a deep cut for the like, what is two thousand nine? Is it the late two thou- not the late two, but like the late early two thousands like.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, but if you're a white British teen, you are like, you were desperate for that, like sort of cool culture. Like you're digging into like old rap history just to sort of be like, what is my thing that I can be like? Oh, I'm not like all the other white British kids. It's niggas with attitude.

• 41:06Laci Mosley?

  Crackers with attitude.

• 41:07Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 41:09Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no.

• 41:10Speaker 04

  Help the police coming straight from the underground.

• 41:13Laci Mosley?

  Nah, he is fucking the police. He's fucking the head of the police. He's fucking the CIA. That's the policeman of the world. So he really did. He really was saying fuck the police. I don't know. I kind of, I don't, I Stan Kane, we'll see. Um, so I joined crackers with attitude. I'm like, can we, y'all need a diversity hire? So according to Kane, his motivation wasn't money or personal satisfaction. It all started by me getting more and more annoyed about how corrupt and cold blooded the US government is. So I decided to do something about it. When a reporter later interviewed him questioning his motives, Kane shared some additional details about him and his group. Oh, note that his voice is encrypted during the interview.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  In the describing group, Kane says, we're not like stupid, we're, but we're not really smart. Okay, whatever. Can we see that video? All right. So we have a little clip of his encoded voice, um, because he did an interview that, uh, went up on CNN. So we're just gonna listen to that.

• 42:12Speaker 06

  And you smoke pot? All day, every day. You think you might have hacked the director of the CIA while you were high? Probably. Are you sophisticated hackers?

• 42:21Speaker 04

  Like in the middle, maybe we're not like stupid, but uh we're not trying to be smart.

• 42:28Laci Mosley?

  I love the flex of being like, y'all are gonna act like I'm some super genius who hacked y'all.

• 42:33Speaker 04

  He's like, I'm twelve, alright?

• 42:37Speaker 04

  Here, I don't have an ID to show you. It's illegal to air this without my mom's consent. She will not sign on this. I'm supposed to be in school right now. And I hacked the government.

• 42:46Laci Mosley?

  He was like, I don't get fractions, but I do get it to the CIA.

• 42:50Speaker 04

  I have to go now. I'm grounded.

• 42:53Laci Mosley?

  Right. He was like, I want y'all to know that we're basic as fuck because y'all are even more basicker, okay? And also, what you mean you go outrun the government? Like, he's a.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  What does that have to do with, like, he's like, oh, you know, I could probably go to Russia. I'm a pretty fast runner.

• 43:10Laci Mosley?

  You gonna run to Russia from the UK? My guy, what is happening? You're very funny. I love this level of trolling.

• 43:16Speaker 04

  I also love that he, he's like, oh, I live in America. And it's like, you, you can tell from your voice that you do not live in America. The voice that is not very like encrypted. It's like, they just sort of put a lower layer on it, but it's still, you can hear like his voice below.

• 43:30Laci Mosley?

  You could kind of still hear the accent. So, after he targeted Mr. Brenner, Kane anonymously posted on Twitter, CIA, set your game up, homies. We own everything. And then hashtag free Palestine, hashtag CWA. He also shared information he grabbed on WikiLeaks and Twitter. Then he set his sights on the next target, the then Secretary of Homeland Security, Jay Johnson. Oh, he was really coming after the girlies. I don't know. I'm not mad. The American government is a scam.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  No, I am, I'm proud of this child, but I'm like, also just like, what's his skin in the game? He's a British teen?

• 44:11Laci Mosley?

  What, like, because they were bored? Because like, you're not getting a check, you didn't try to ransom the information off or sell it to, you know, a foreign government that would have loved to have it. You just like, posted it for clout?

• 44:22Speaker 04

  I guess, anonymously.

• 44:25Laci Mosley?

  So using similar social engineering techniques, Kane was able to gain access to Mr. Johnson's voicemails and send texts from his phone. I wonder what kind of texts he's sending. He left Mr. Johnson call after call and boasted that he shreked him. I do not know.

• 44:40Speaker 04

  You got shreked.

• 44:42Laci Mosley?

  You got shreked bitch.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  Make me some waffles bitch.

• 44:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh my god, what?

• 44:49Speaker 04

  Who's that mean? Yeah, I don't, I don't know who he is in this scenario.

• 44:54Laci Mosley?

  He similarly bombarded Mr. Johnson's wife with calls and left her voicemail saying, "Hi spooky, am I scaring you?"

• 45:03Speaker 04

  What? I just shreked your husband, you scared?

• 45:07Laci Mosley?

  This man really was hot, this little boy, this little boy man was definitely hot. Kane was even able to gain access to the television at Mr. Johnson's home, using it to post messages like, "I own you." Damn, imagine turning on your TV. You thought, you, you thought she was about to watch The Bench, Loretta?

• 45:26Speaker 04

  What's this new show, I Own You? I don't like this.

• 45:29Laci Mosley?

  I don't like this.

• 45:30Speaker 04

  It's on every channel.

• 45:31Laci Mosley?

  Around October twenty fifteen, Kane celebrated his sixteenth birthday by pretending to be Mark Giuliano, the FBI's then deputy director, to call the FBI help desk. What? And then use the information to gain access to the FBI's law enforcement enterprise for, uh, portal, LEAP. LEAP is a gateway providing law enforcement agencies and intelligence groups and criminal justice agencies access to beneficial resources, so basically our private information. According to Kane at the time, "This has to be the biggest hack. I have access to all the details the feds use for background checks." Ooh. Now, what did you do with this? Now, if you can hack this well, why haven't you hacked Navien or Sally Mae? You really want to help Americans like wipe their debt?

• 46:13Speaker 04

  Oh, the wrong targets. Maybe they got better security, like the CIA is the small potatoes and like, Sally Mae somehow just has like Mission Impossible level like laser grids protecting who owes them money?

• 46:25Laci Mosley?

  She probably does, because that bitch before she became Navien, she was ruthless. And, uh, also, the Education Connection video has resurfaced on Twitter, and I was like, this is what did it. This is what pu- put the millennials in debt. Remember that, like, Educ- how did, how did the song go for Education Connection?

• 46:41Speaker 04

  I don't even remember, like.

• 46:42Laci Mosley?

  We all know it, but I can't think of it right now.

• 46:45Speaker 04

  If, if I heard like the first few notes, I'd be like, just.

• 46:47Laci Mosley?

  Then I would immediately drop into it.

• 46:49Speaker 04

  I got, yeah, Manchurian Candidate.

• 46:52Laci Mosley?

  Truly, because we all know that song and it's why we are all in debt. So even after the password was changed, Kane was able to call the help desk again pretending to be Mr. Giuliano and change it back. Wowzers Kane used this access to steal and post online personal details of Officer Darren Wilson. Officer Wilson was the officer who shot and killed uh Michael Brown, an African American teenager in Ferguson, Missouri. He also continued to harass the Giuliano family to the point where an armed guard was placed at their home. Later, and with the help of another member of the CWA, Kane hacked into the accounts of the Senior Science and Technology Advisor John Holdren and incited an armed SWAT team being deployed to Mr. Holdren's house.

• 47:36Speaker 04

  What, to the su- to the, I mean, that's a like a known person. That's like if they were to send like a SWAT team to like Brad Pitt's house. Like, they could have been like, oh, we, that's so weird.

• 47:48Laci Mosley?

  The SWAT team wasn't like, this seems weird. No, it's a, that's what we're supposed to go down, not, uh, you thought all y'all tactical geared in.

• 47:54Speaker 04

  I got a new gun, I want to test it out, I don't care who, where we're going.

• 47:57Laci Mosley?

  Right, it was like hop in and they do that.

• 48:01Speaker 04

  Sorry, I, I have so many questions about just how, like, how he hacked this guy's TV. How he's getting to these people's phones and like calling companies, like, because he's got his own voice. Is he calling the companies going, I, I am an older person and not a British teenager. I'm the president, I'm the CIA director. Can I have a password?

• 48:23Laci Mosley?

  Right, are you telling me all the government passwords are one, two, three, four?

• 48:26Speaker 04

  One hundred percent they are. It's like, it's like one, two, three, four, six, they think that's the trick?

• 48:32Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's like we jump a number and then there are no one is ever gonna know.

• 48:36Laci Mosley?

  What, the password is just your name? Your full name? He also targeted the private calls and emails of White House Deputy National Security Advisor Avril Haines and FBI Executive Assistant Director for Science and Technology, Amy Hess. It's unclear why Kane targeted Amy Hess, but ironically, he was able to download films to her computer, including hackers, the NV for Vendetta and One Porn.

• 49:02Laci Mosley?

  Just for a little razzle dazzle, one porn.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  Was like a hacker feeding porn, like he has a theme there and he's just like, throw porn in there.

• 49:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, go to sprinkle some, sprinkle some anal in there.

• 49:13Speaker 04

  We don't wanna freak her out. We want her to be like, we're gonna get you. Oh, we're still gonna get you. But here's one for you. Get a horny.

• 49:20Laci Mosley?

  Have you ever seen Mandingo?

• 49:24Laci Mosley?

  What? So he also changed an equipment list in her files to a list of derogatory terms. Kane was able to gain control of the Verizon account of Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and forward all his home calls to the Free Palestine Movement. Kane later contacted the publication Vice to inform them of the hack and post it to Twitter. When the reporter contacted Vanna Weir Heaton, the former intelligence executive of the US National Geospatial Intelligence Agency to let her know that her information was posted, she reportedly answered laughing. I'm sorry, I have no insight into that, but that's really unfortunate. Have a great day. Uh, okay, Vanna. Like Vanna was like, I don't care. Bye.

• 50:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, Vanna was like, I don't have time for this. Uh, there's an asteroid or something in space that I gotta deal with.

• 50:14Laci Mosley?

  I'm doing war crimes. Can I call y'all back?

• 50:17Speaker 04

  Verizon seems like the, uh, common thread here. Like they just have some really shitty security going on.

• 50:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, everybody, maybe we shouldn't be with Verizon anymore. They said, can you scam me now? I mean, can you hear me now? Um, Verizon, what's going on? And I love that Vanna's a black woman who was unbothered. She was just like, I don't got time for this shit.

• 50:37Speaker 04

  Oh, you got my info? Okay.

• 50:39Laci Mosley?

  It's, it's getting very much like, they call your black mama to come up to school because you're talking too much in class. And then she, and then your mama like, y'all called me up here for this?

• 50:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, beat his ass. Beat his ass. I'm tired. I don't care.

• 50:53Laci Mosley?

  That beat his ass, oh lord. So Kane's chaos comes to an end. Kane's campaign of harassment against the feds eventually came to an end in February 2016. He had just gained access to the US Department of Justice Network over several days. CWA published the names, phone numbers, and emails of more, so there are the jocks and people, of 20,000 FBI agents and 9,000 DHS officers, as well as case files on Deepwater Horizon oil spill, accompanied by the message, "This is for Palestine."

• 51:20Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 51:21Laci Mosley?

  I know Palestine is like, "Why am I in it?" Like...

• 51:25Speaker 04

  You'd be like, "Well, okay, they are gonna get us back for this, please do not involve us in this at all."

• 51:28Laci Mosley?

  Right, we're doing, we're going through enough over here now.

• 51:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, leave me alone.

• 51:32Laci Mosley?

  Stop tagging us. Untag me. I'm in this photo and I don't like it.

• 51:38Speaker 04

  We changing our name, that's not, that's not us no more. It feels, also just like, how, this feels like such a massive hack and I can't believe I didn't hear about it? Like, for them to release the name of like 20,000 officers and like, it be connected to Pa- Palestine, like...

• 51:53Laci Mosley?

  And also, why couldn't the government find him? It seems like they'll really let him just cook for a minute.

• 51:58Speaker 04

  Cause he, he was in a place they couldn't access, England. He's just like, "Shit, we only got 50 states, where is this guy? Where is he?"

• 52:07Laci Mosley?

  Oh, he's not in America? Oh, well. Alright, we got waterboards and war crimes to do, we got to get back to it. So, that was the tipping point. Now, the FBI and the US Secret Service were so concerned that he had seen too much, they immediately called the UK police. Kane was arrested at his home. He initially refused to answer any police questions, denied that he was the hacker, and was released on bail after seven hours in a cell. Kane's defense claims his actions were naive, and that he never meant to harm anyone. Which, I don't, I feel like, he meant to harm the government, which US government probably definitely deserves.

• 52:45Speaker 04

  They ain't people, he ain't wrong.

• 52:47Laci Mosley?

  Right. And they don't treat us like people, so, I don't know. In an internet chat, Kane once said he had considered not sharing any more information because it put lives at risk, but then thought, "They're killing innocent people every day." Not wrong, Kane. You are not wrong.

• 53:03Speaker 04

  Kane is, he's a good guy, I like this kid.

• 53:06Laci Mosley?

  I know, I found him.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Got a good head on the shoulders, yeah.

• 53:09Laci Mosley?

  Oh, CWA?

• 53:11Laci Mosley?

  Cave pleaded guilty to eight charges of performing a function with the intent to secure unauthorized access to computers and two charges of unauthorized modification of computer material. Justice Hadden Cave sentenced the, okay, so the justice Hadden Cave, he sentenced the then sixteen year old to two years in youth detention. The first ever youth to be given jail time for hacking in the UK. I would say UK, hire him? Why are y'all letting this genius waste away in a little baby jail? Well, he could be working for y'all, getting y'all intel that y'all need.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  He should have gotten out of like jail with a full ride somewhere.

• 53:48Laci Mosley?

  Right, to genius school. He spent eight months in the high security prison of Belmarsh, AKA Hellmarsh, and one year on probation. I imagine UK, is UK jail, it can't be as bad as American jail.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't know. I, there's no way it is, but I mean, that, that, it just reminds me of Paddington and I'm like, well, it didn't look that bad.

• 54:15Speaker 04

  I don't know, it's like, it's a little colorful and they got someone on the bottom like mopping the floors with one of those like electric mops and like in the, in the US they'd be like, I'm spitting on the ground, wipe that all around.

• 54:25Laci Mosley?

  Right, with a toothbrush that you also still have to use.

• 54:28Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 54:29Laci Mosley?

  Our jails are slavery. They are literally just modern slavery. So I don't know.

• 54:34Speaker 04

  This guy's got green pants on. I don't know, they got style in UK jails. I don't, I think it's.

• 54:40Laci Mosley?

  It's like green pants. Y'all not wearing orange? Y'all don't got on black and white? They give you brand water? Yeah, mm, okay. If you've been to UK jail, let us know. Is it, who, if you've been to UK jail and American jail? If you've done a tour? Let us know.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  If you escaped one and they're like, I'm gonna commit a crime elsewhere and still fail, let us know.

• 55:00Laci Mosley?

  Let us know. We want to know what it's giving. So getting back online, since his arrest Kane was banned from using the internet and any computer until April twenty twenty. How do you ban somebody from the internet? Like, how are you gonna know he's on the internet?

• 55:14Speaker 04

  Also, a kid like that, like I could just be like, alright, I'm gonna open up incognito tab, but this kid could just be like, I'm literally gonna create a new IP address. Like, you can't prove it. It's just up to his mom to be like, are you on the, are you on the computers? Like, yeah, but are you on the internet? No, alright, it's fine.

• 55:29Laci Mosley?

  Alright then, I, I, I trust you.

• 55:31Speaker 04

  I'm playing the Sims. I'm not online, I'm playing the Sims, mom.

• 55:35Laci Mosley?

  Right. He's since been working on establishing a career in cybersecurity. He partially works hunting bug bounties, which are bounties awarded to hackers and researchers who discover flaws in companies programs. So he's, basically, he hacks in, like, like, like you were saying earlier, where you're not impressed by scammers, because you're like, this isn't good enough. He's like, oh yeah, we gotta, I already found holes.

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 56:01Laci Mosley?

  That's what he should, I mean, I like what he did. Right, he's my child. In his most recent statement Kane said, I'm older now and I have no interest in crime. I just wanna get on with me life now.

• 56:16Speaker 04

  I hope the quote says me life.

• 56:19Laci Mosley?

  It does, it says my life, but I wanted to say me life, so bad.

• 56:22Speaker 04

  Going on to sixth form now, I don't have any interest in crime. That was the old me.

• 56:25Laci Mosley?

  That was out of me, isn't it? Just getting on with me life now. That's what I want. I want him to sound like a pirate.

• 56:32Speaker 04

  I'm left crackers with attitude behind.

• 56:34Laci Mosley?

  Right, are, yeah, are you still a cracker or no?

• 56:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's in the white tang clan now.

• 56:40Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  Well, you know, shout out to you Kane, it sounds like you just did a lot of good snitching on our arguably the most evil government in the world. So.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  We're even for that tea party shit now. You good?

• 56:56Laci Mosley?

  Right. Do you think the water tasted good when they threw all that tea in it?

• 56:59Speaker 04

  Oh, delicious.

• 57:02Laci Mosley?

  Busting a little bit, perhaps.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  Right, go, go, go to Boston and just taste some. It's still good.

• 57:08Laci Mosley?

  How's the water in Boston now, y'all? How does it taste? Somebody go take a scoop out of the Boston river. Nah, don't do that.

• 57:16Laci Mosley?

  Alright guys, that is the end of the historic hoodwinkings and now it is time for the saddest part of the show. Where I'm gonna have to let Demi go, but not before we talk about a scammer of the week. This is where we honor a charlatan who's worthy of our praise, or maybe not, we'll see. Today, we're talking about the Orlando Museum of Art, which is under fire after it was discovered to have been displaying twenty-five fake Jean Michel Basquiat paintings. Wow.

• 57:43Speaker 04

  Love it. Well, I don't like them profiting off of a black artist's work.

• 57:48Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I mean, what is a museum if not colonization persevering? Like, what is a museum if it's not like, "We stole all of this. Come look at it."

• 57:58Speaker 04

  Especially these, where you're like, it kinda looks like a child's art.

• 58:03Laci Mosley?

  Right. And you know when like, extreme couponers on those shows, they'll show everyone the haul that they got, like the, you know, five hundred paper towel rolls and, you know, sixty-eight cans of tuna. It's like that, but for theft, um, from native people and, and you know, black and brown people. They're like, "Look at all this shit we stole. We put the lights under it. We temperature controlled it. We got little lasers." Like, "Y'all don't own any of this. Y'all are thieves." And I really wanna know what the date is for us to stop like, stealing other people's shit and acting like, "That's okay." Like, I wanna steal things and put them on display in my house and be like, "Yeah, I got this from, uh, Madison." Uh, on Eighteenth Street, yeah, I just went to her house and took it. And now it's under this light.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  As long as you display it, that's fine.

• 58:45Laci Mosley?

  Okay, as long as you display the things you steal with like, a good light and a podium, then it's not theft. It's called museuming. That's what I'm gonna tell people when I get arrested. "No, I'm just museuming."

• 58:56Speaker 04

  You're trying to bring down a black business owner.

• 59:00Laci Mosley?

  A definitely black business owner, okay?

• 59:04Laci Mosley?

  Hold on, let me take this ski mask off so y'all can see that I'm black. I'm in here curating.

• 59:09Laci Mosley?

  So the paintings were a part of the museum's Heroes and Monsters exhibition, which consisted of one man's collection he purported to have been bought directly from Basquiat. However, upon further questioning, the man admitted that he had never met the artist who died in 1988. Additionally, the brand mark made on the inside of the paintings was found to be blatantly in the wrong spots. The art dealer who housed the art at the around the time that the exhibit was said to have been painted, said it was unlikely he actually painted them, but was pressured into cooperating, supporting the stories in exchange for 10% of the sale price. So he got some coin.

• 59:47Speaker 04

  Isn't the whole point that you shouldn't be able to pay off like an authenticator? Cause then it's like, what do you offer? Just pay them and be like, yeah, it's real.

• 59:55Laci Mosley?

  Right. And also like, what is the job of an authenticator? It's like a handwriting expert. It's like, at some point, some of that shit is bullshit. Like you telling me you know everything that this man painted?

• 1:00:05Speaker 04

  It's the same shit is like calling the Verizon people like a million times. Like you go to one authenticator, they're like, no, it's fake. It's like, why is it fake? It's like, cause of this. And then it's like, cool, I'm gonna fix that and go to another authenticator. They'll be like, that's, that's pretty good, but this part's fake. All right.

• 1:00:17Laci Mosley?

  Tell me exactly why it's fake.

• 1:00:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:21Laci Mosley?

  And if it were real, how would it look different from this? And just taking notes?

• 1:00:25Speaker 04

  Interesting. And you're saying you wouldn't be able to tell if this was here? Interesting.

• 1:00:28Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay, okay. So, okay. So if someone were to make an identical replica, then what else would they need to do? I'm just checking. Okay, okay. All right. Yeah, help me get better. I want to improve at fraud. The director of the museum, Erin DeGraff, has lost his job after allegedly presenting false information about the ownership of the paintings, which if real, would have been worth 110 million dollars. Mind you, this man is dead and gone. 110 million dollars to who? Where would the money go? Would it go to Basquiat's family? Who's selling this?

• 1:01:00Speaker 04

  No, it literally just whoever had it to whoever is like, gonna have it next. It's so, it's all a scam. It's all just money laundering.

• 1:01:09Laci Mosley?

  And look at this art curator over here. He looked guilty. He was like, oh, y'all got them cameras on? Can y'all turn them cameras off?

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  What is this tie? It's a tie full of like, uh, what, soda can tabs? This man is not an art curator.

• 1:01:22Laci Mosley?

  Right. His tie looks like if you were to look at like a hand washing station under a microscope. It would look like germs.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:30Laci Mosley?

  He said, no, give me the, give me that tie with the germ. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna put that on. That gives art curator, right? This is artistic this time.

• 1:01:36Speaker 04

  It says Sotheby's.

• 1:01:37Laci Mosley?

  Right, and he slicked his hair back. He's giving like, I'm a art man, but a art businessman.

• 1:01:42Speaker 04

  He's like art man of the Pawn Stars world, you know?

• 1:01:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's exactly what he's giving. He does not look like he should have been running this museum regardless. When an expert approached Groff saying the paintings were fake, he replied, shut up. Do your academic thing and stay in your limited lane.

• 1:01:59Speaker 04

  Boy, these paintings are fake. Shut your mouth. Shut up.

• 1:02:01Laci Mosley?

  Shut your, shut your ass up. Shut your bitch ass right now.

• 1:02:04Speaker 04

  You want five percent?

• 1:02:05Laci Mosley?

  Right, these are real Basquiatos.

• 1:02:11Laci Mosley?

  That's not the name. No, no, no, shut up. Don't look too close, okay? It's like Basquiat but with a K.

• 1:02:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:18Laci Mosley?

  These are Basquiat for Target. Shut your ass up.

• 1:02:21Speaker 04

  For Target? Uh, yes, correction needs it for Target. It's, it's cool.

• 1:02:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, it's cool. Come on now. At, at some point Basquiat was in a room with these paintings, probably. They got, shut your ass up. So the FBI has since seized the paintings and is launching an investigation. I love how the government gets to just take shit from people and nobody else can do that. I wanna see these things. Why can't I see something?

• 1:02:45Speaker 04

  You can. It's just, you gotta curate. You gotta seize and curate at the same time. I also love starting an investigation for something like this where it's like, I have the pictures, the investigation is done, it's fake. What do you need to investigate?

• 1:02:56Laci Mosley?

  I feel like y'all trying to sell them too. What did you need them for?

• 1:02:59Speaker 04

  We're gonna start an investigation into how much these, uh, uh, how much they were bought for.

• 1:03:04Laci Mosley?

  Also, I feel like this is none of the FBI's business. We have real problems. You telling me our tax dollars are going to you investigating some patents?

• 1:03:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:14Speaker 04

  Y'all gotta investigate Verizon. What's going on over there?

• 1:03:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what, did Verizon get an investigation after that because?

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  They're probably like, that's our bad. Yeah, well, we'll, uh, you know, we'll have two passwords now.

• 1:03:27Laci Mosley?

  We've started asking, what was your first cereal?

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  Uh, we trained all our employees to recognize a British accent. So, that's not ever gonna happen again.

• 1:03:39Laci Mosley?

  Don't worry. We taught our employees to stop telling people passwords when they ask, when they call. Cause we actually didn't have that in the training manual. We actually never explicitly said, if people ask, what's my password, don't tell them.

• 1:03:51Speaker 04

  Hey, nobody's perfect. We ain't strict.

• 1:03:56Laci Mosley?

  No, we ain't sprint.

• 1:04:00Laci Mosley?

  The ghetto, bitch, this ain't cricket, okay?

• 1:04:05Laci Mosley?

  I feel like Cricket Wireless probably got hella security.

• 1:04:08Speaker 04

  I don't hear, I don't hear no complaints about Cricket Wireless, so.

• 1:04:13Laci Mosley?

  They got mostly flip phones. You ain't hacking shit at Cricket, okay? They're taking the blurriest, uh, flip phone camera videos.

• 1:04:20Speaker 04

  They're not connected to the internet. There's nothing to hack.

• 1:04:23Laci Mosley?

  Right. I feel like if you take a nude on Cricket, it won't even look like a nude. So you don't even gotta worry about it getting leaked.

• 1:04:29Speaker 04

  Damn, shorty got a nice arm, maybe.

• 1:04:32Laci Mosley?

  Right, maybe. It's either, it's either the inside of her elbow and her arm, or it's her booty, but it's so epipsculated, we can't.

• 1:04:43Laci Mosley?

  It just looks like a bunch of large flesh colored squares.

• 1:04:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:46Laci Mosley?

  Love it, love it. Guys, that brings us to the end of a fantastic episode. Demi, thank you so much for being here.

• 1:04:52Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:04:54Laci Mosley?

  We always ask on this podcast, where would you like to be found?

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Electro Lemon. Uh, I got nothing to plug for now, so. You can go on the streets, just be like, what's up? Nah, don't have podcasts to plug anymore. I don't, I don't do anything. I sit in this room all day and think about starting stuff and then go, nah.

• 1:05:12Laci Mosley?

  You have so much like musical equipment. I mean, I, I know you, you are very talented as a musician, but seeing it in the background, I'm like, this is so legit. Like, ooh, you buy the studio, studio.

• 1:05:23Speaker 04

  I.

• 1:05:24Laci Mosley?

  Several guitars, pianos. Okay, Prince, you play everything, okay?

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  I'm the exact same as Prince. Spread that.

• 1:05:32Laci Mosley?

  I will. Demi's the exact same as Prince and also Basquiat.

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  That's right. It's me, Prince and Basquiat, all in a room together, but not doing anything that you should know about still.

• 1:05:44Laci Mosley?

  Which sounds very scammy and I love that for you.

• 1:05:48Laci Mosley?

  Not doing anything you should know about. Love that. That's what I'm gonna start telling people.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  You got anything to plug? No, mind your business.

• 1:05:53Laci Mosley?

  Mind your, shut up.

• 1:05:55Speaker 04

  Shut up.

• 1:05:58Laci Mosley?

  Hey guys, as always, search on your friends and family at [email protected]. If you want to see all the photos we were talking about, scamgoddesspod on Instagram. And if you want to follow me and my shenanigans, D I V A L A C I D, Velaci on all platforms. Convocation, stay busky-ating. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Kargbo, engineered by Marina Baies, and researched by Kalen Brand. Stay scheming.

• 1:06:35Speaker 07

  This has been a Team Coco production in association with Earwolf.

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