Why Everything Feels Harder After 40: Nervous System, Burnout & Letting Go

What if the changes you’re experiencing after 40 are asking you to look at more than your hormones? In this solo episode of Live Like a Girl, Dr. Mindy walks through how she believes women can use the menopausal transition to better understand their nervous systems, reconnect with parts of themselves they may have lost, and begin building the next chapter of life more intentionally. She explores why so many women arrive in midlife already overwhelmed, why learning to regulate your nervous system may need to come before another health protocol, and how years of putting everyone else first can shape the way women experience this transition. Later in the episode, LeAnn Rimes joins Dr. Mindy for a candid conversation about overwhelm, perfectionism, boundaries, HRT, nutrition, self-care, and what it looks like to listen to your body while living a very full life. And for a limited time, you can get Age Like a Girl for $7 with free shipping in the U. S. and Canada only, while supplies last. In This Episode, You’ll Learn Why nervous system regulation matters so much after 40How years of over-functioning can catch up with women in midlifeWhy play, curiosity, creativity, and speaking your truth matterHow to build your own lifestyle toolbox for menopauseWhy women need community as they ageWhy saying no can become an important form of self-careWhat it means to create the next chapter of your life on your terms Resources Mentioned FREE Nervous System Questionnaire https://resetacademy.drmindypelz.com/nervous-system-reset?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=nervous_system_resetAge Like a Girl https://www.hayhouse.com/checkout/cart/add?product=28748&qty=1&coupon=10058(Get your copy for $7 & FREE shipping, limited-time offer)Reset Academy https://resetacademy.drmindypelz.com/reset-academy?utm_source=libsyn&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=&utm_content=loc-description&utm_campaign=reset-academyQualia Senolytic, use code MINDY for 15% off https://www.qualialife.com/mindyFor more resources related to today’s episode, visit the podcast episode page: drmindypelz.com/ep364 https://www.drmindypelz.com/ep364 Connect with Dr. Mindy: Join Reset Academy https://resetacademy.drmindypelz.com/reset-academy?utm_source=libsyn&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=&utm_content=loc-description&utm_campaign=reset-academyWatch the episodes on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@DrMindyPelz?sub_confirmation=1Follow Dr. Mindy on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dr.mindypelz/Subscribe to Dr. Mindy’s newsletter https://www.drmindypelz.com/ Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for educational and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making changes to your diet, fasting routine, or lifestyle.

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• 0:00Mindy Pelz?

  I want to tell you about something that genuinely moves me. And that's watching what happens when women come together around real health science. There's something powerful that shifts when a woman realizes she's not broken. She's just been given the wrong information. And when she is surrounded by other women who are waking up to that same truth. Wow, it's magic. The healing accelerates. The consistency becomes easier. The loneliness of the health journey just literally dissolves. And that's what I have been watching over and over again, happen inside my Reset Academy, month after month.

• 0:44Mindy Pelz?

  Women who come in frustrated and depleted, they start to find their rhythm, they start to reclaim their energy. And the most beautiful part is they start rebuilding trust with their bodies. Inside my academy, you get monthly trainings, live coaching calls, and an incredible community of women who are all doing this work right alongside you. And I show up every single month with new content, new tools, new ways to explain things because your body is always changing and your health education should grow with it. So come join me over there. All you've got to do is find us on resetacademy.drmindypelz.com. That's resetacademy.drmindypelz.com.

• 1:29Mindy Pelz?

  I can't wait to see you there. Hey, Dr. Mindy here and welcome to the Live Like a Girl podcast where I bring you icons, disruptors, educators, scientists, and doctors that show you what can be possible when you love and celebrate the female body you are blessed to live in. Let's dive in. I'm just excited that you all are here and I will share right off the top that one of my worst fears as an author is that the book will collect dust or that you will go into the book and not know how to apply the different principles that I laid out there inside this book.

• 2:14Mindy Pelz?

  And if you've been into the book yet, it's deep, there's a lot, and I want to make it as simple for you to apply as possible. Okay, here is how the next 90 minutes are gonna go. So I'm gonna talk for a half hour and I'm gonna take you through an inquiry, a way of like looking at the principles from your lens. So if you've followed me, hopefully you know that I'm a big fan of a concept in science called N of one. And N of one says you take principles, science, and then you apply it to yourself and you

• 2:58Mindy Pelz?

  see what works. So we have over 450 peer-reviewed citations in this book. I'm incredibly proud of that. I had a team of researchers that helped me put together a lot of the information in here. It is very science-backed, but honestly, just because it worked in a study doesn't mean it's gonna work for you. So I want to make this very applicable to your life and that's what this webinar is about. So over the next half hour, I'm gonna go through a process of inquiry so that I can see, so that you can start to ask yourself deeper questions that will hopefully make

• 3:41Mindy Pelz?

  not just your menopause experience amazing, but help you understand what it means to age like a girl and how do we move into a place of leadership? How do we move into a place of power? How do we move into a life that we get to build on our terms now? Because that's really what the principles of this book are is it's your time. How do we make sure you maximize that? So I'm gonna do that for a half hour. Then I'm gonna bring Leanne on and I want to take you through an inquiry with her because one of the blessings that I've had in my career has been working with this incredible woman for over three years now.

• 4:23Mindy Pelz?

  And she is such a beautiful example of somebody who used her lifestyle to balance her hormones. And I want you to hear some of the things she's she's applied to her own life. And I've got some fun questions for her as well. So again, my hope is that when we get to the end of this hour and a half, you know what to do with this information to improve your life. Okay? So here we go. We're gonna start off with something that I brought forward in the very beginning of the book. And the introduction, believe it or not, was originally supposed to be at the back half of the book.

• 5:07Mindy Pelz?

  And when we finally looked at it, when the manuscript was all done, we realized that my fire story really needed to go up in the front. Because my fire story and that intro is really a lot of women's story. And here's the summary of it. We come into menopause totally burnt out. So it doesn't mean that, you know, you don't have to have had a situation like mine, but all of us have compounding stress. We have compounding traumas. And we come roaring into our 40s and all of a sudden, our brain rewires itself and our neurochemical armor comes down.

• 5:52Mindy Pelz?

  And we are, what I always say, we feel raw, we feel vulnerable, it's like the wheels come off the bus and we feel like we're no longer in control of our health and our mind. And there is a reason behind that. So one of the things I wanted to bring out in this book was an old teaching of Carol Gilligan's. So this is chapter four or five, I have to go back and look, but it's in the part one where I bring you Carol Gilligan's work. And why Carol Gilligan's work was so important to me was because I was a product of the 1980s when she was studying teenage girls.

• 6:35Mindy Pelz?

  And what she discovered was that when a girl goes into her teenage years, she has taught a major lesson that boys don't get. And the lesson and the message is you are worthy if you are selfless. And so so many of us have been doing everything for everybody else, hoping to find our own worth, hoping to solve a running statement in our brain of, am I enough? And there's so much that we do, whether it's diet so we can be a certain weight, or it's, I'm gotta be a super mom, plus I have to be a career woman.

• 7:16Mindy Pelz?

  Whatever it is, we are constantly outsourcing our worth to the world so that the world will reflect back at us that we are good enough. And one of the things I really wanted to bring forward in this book is that the purpose of aging for a woman, the purpose of going through menopause as a woman is so that you get to put down that thinking. You get to start to do everything for you and stop doing everything for everybody else. So one of the first things that I want you to start to realize is that we, our nervous system is one that needs to go into relaxation.

• 8:00Mindy Pelz?

  It's called your parasympathetic nervous system. It needs to go into relaxation. And when a stressor hits, then it goes into fight or flight. And we handle the stressor and then we go back into relaxation. Just like I taught you with Fast Like a Girl and Eat Like a Girl, we're supposed to be a sugar burner and a fat burner and we're meant to move in and out of those two energy systems. It's the same thing with our nervous system. We're meant to go into a relaxed state and into a more of a crisis mode. But what happens to us after 40 is so many of us go into those years and we're stuck

• 8:45Mindy Pelz?

  in fight or flight. I'm a big fan of bringing forward something called the polyvagal theory. And the polyvagal theory states that if you've been in fight or flight for too long, you move to a third nervous system and it's called the freeze nervous system. I can tell you for me, prior to the fires, I was already in a freeze nervous system. I was already in numbing myself out, whether it was through work or through scrolling socials. Numbing is a very common thing that happens when we get into the freeze nervous system. I couldn't handle stress before the fires. I couldn't handle stress. Even a little bit of stress started to put me over the top.

• 9:30Mindy Pelz?

  That's a classic freeze nervous system. Everything in this book is obviously gonna have some meaning for you, but the most important thing I want you to do is start to learn how to bring your rhythm back to your nervous system, how to regulate yourself so that you don't stay stuck in this freeze nervous system. So when you read part one of Age Like a Girl or even the intro, that's what I was writing from, is we all enter into menopause, most women, many women, because of the of the have to's that have been put on us by the culture, we enter into those years totally

• 10:14Mindy Pelz?

  stuck with a dysregulated freeze nervous system. Put in your, in the comments if you, if that resonates. And then we have this massive neurochemical shift that happens, which all of a sudden makes it so we cannot handle stress anymore. So when we look at the irritability, when we look at the rage, when we look at the depression, I think a large part of that is because you are moving into a time of your life where there is a massive neurochemical upgrade and you are already frozen. You are already done.

• 10:55Mindy Pelz?

  So that's what that intro was, is so many of us are running in with this stuck nervous system. And I get asked all the time, what do you think about HRT? And I always say, it's a great tool, but you're dealing with a collective trauma of women in a culture that has taught us we are worthy if we are skinny, if we are beautiful, if we don't have any wrinkles, if we can kill it in our career and be an amazing mom. There are so many expectations of us that rubbing cream and putting patches on us isn't going to save us in that moment. It's a tool amongst many. But the most important thing you can do

• 11:38Mindy Pelz?

  as you navigate the pages of this book is identify where your nervous system is at. So that was why we moved that chapter up so that you all could find yourself in that story. I'm not a "woe is me" person, just so you know. And when my collaborative writer and editors wanted me to move that up, I was like, "I don't know if I want to put my story out there." But I'm hearing from a lot of people that my story is their story. And if there's one thing I want this book to do, it's I want you to feel seen and heard. Because what we do as women is we put a mask on and we try to pretend like everything is okay. Put in the comments if you're not okay.

• 12:23Mindy Pelz?

  And this was a big thing that I had to admit before I could start to regulate my nervous system is that I wasn't okay. After the fires, I made a decision to rehab my nervous system. And it was a full-time job along with writing this book. And what I'm starting to notice after spending so much time prioritizing sleep, being careful how overloaded my schedule got, being sure that I got out into nature on a regular basis, is what I started to notice was that my brain operated different. And I think it's really important for you to know

• 13:05Mindy Pelz?

  that when you feel like you can't handle one more thing, when everybody around you is driving you crazy, that instead of blaming the outside world, how about we go inside and ask, "Is my nervous system regulated?" And you're going to hear when we bring LeAnn on how she's been working with her nervous system. Because it's really easy in this world for us to keep doing and doing and performing and performing until we can't handle it anymore. I want you to think about creating a life of regulation. So the first thing, when you read part one of this book, I want you to see through the lens of an author

• 13:49Mindy Pelz?

  who's inviting you in to your own nervous system healing. Inviting you in to start before you do anything else, before you decide, "I'm going to lift weights," before you decide you're going to count protein, before you decide you have the wrong OB because they're not giving you HRT, before you decide to leave your marriage, before you decide to blow your life up. Regulate your nervous system. That is step number one. And that's what that first part is all about. Okay. Second thing in the first part that I really wanted to bring forward was something I call reclaiming your little girl. So I don't know about you all,

• 14:34Mindy Pelz?

  but I definitely hit a point in my adult life where I became a little too serious. I put the responsibility of my family, I put the responsibility of my practice, I put the responsibility of life ahead of my own joy and fun. And when I started to look at the qualities that I had before that time when Carol Gilligan said, "We all got trained to become selfless," I started to ask myself, "Who was I before the culture trained me to be selfless?" And I started to see qualities of my little girl that I wanted to bring back.

• 15:15Mindy Pelz?

  So for me, I took on Wonder Woman as an identity. I took on Rosie the Riveter as "we can do it all." And I had great pride in that. But when I go back and I look at my little girl, one of the things that I know is she just was playful and she was funny. And she liked to move her body all the time. So it's interesting because with "Age Like a Girl," of course, we had to do "Like a Girl" because that's the series. But in going out and doing all of these podcasts, one thing that I really noticed was that many of the discussions were with women who have gone through this process

• 15:59Mindy Pelz?

  or in their 50s or in their 60s. And they're talking about how they want to go back and grab qualities of who they were when they were at a younger age. So put in the comments if you already know, like curiosity. Curiosity was a huge quality of my little girl. And yet, she was told to be quiet in class. She was told to only learn this, don't think outside the box. So I'm bringing curiosity back into my life. I'm bringing play back into my life. One of the other things that I learned in full transparency this year is I learned that I kept my voice quiet

• 16:43Mindy Pelz?

  within my household. Because my household was chaos. My sister was always causing problems with my parents. There was a lot of yelling. There was a lot of love. But I learned, don't speak up for yourself. Because if you speak up for yourself, you're going to create more chaos. A lot of us have been quiet in our voice because we didn't want to rock the boat for fear there would be more chaos. So I now speak my truth. That's a part of my little girl that I bring back. And sometimes I say, "I'm sorry. I'm just going to tell you like it is right now." Because I spent 56 years keeping my voice quiet and I'm not doing that to myself anymore. I have a phrase I use often that says, "I won't betray myself anymore."

• 17:28Mindy Pelz?

  I already did that for 56 years. I know what that feels like. And so part of taking my little girl back is speaking my truth and speaking my voice. So creativity, curiosity, and play are parts of me that I turned away from. And now I get to bring those parts back. I call it, and you're going to hear me when I talk to LeAnn, I call it your authentic self. Because I think that when we were little girls, we had an essence of energy, of who we were. And now, when we go through this menopausal process, we have an opportunity to bring that essence back. I was always loud. I just got shamed for it. So now I'm just loud all the time. I was always curious.

• 18:14Mindy Pelz?

  I just was told it was useless. And now I'm curious all the time. So you get to decide what you bring back. Before we get back into the episode, I want to tell you something rare that literally just happened in the supplement world. Hopefully, many of you have learned through my videos and podcasts that past 30, your body starts collecting what scientists call senescent cells. Or you may have heard them as zombie cells. These are old fatigue cells that slow down recovery. And they give you that general feeling of aging. And they do it really quickly. And maybe you've noticed overnight, you just feel like you don't have that zip that you used to have. So one of my favorite supplement companies,

• 18:59Mindy Pelz?

  Qualia, has created a solution to this. It's called Qualia Senolytic. And it's vegan, it's non-GMO, and they've blended nine plant-derived ingredients together to actually kill these zombie cells. And this amazing clinically-tested formula just had a human study on it that was published in a peer-reviewed major science journal. Now, keep in mind that there are marketing claims with supplements. And then there's studies in peer-reviewed science journals. That is an amazing accomplishment for the Qualia brand.

• 19:44Mindy Pelz?

  And I'm so impressed at what they did. Now, here's my favorite part about Qualia Synolytic. You only take it two days out of the month. This is not like a supplement you have to take every single day. This is just two days out of the month. And there are nine Synolytic ingredients helping to remove your old, worn-out cells. So you feel young, you have healthy cells, and you have room to flourish, thrive, and retain that youthfulness that we all so deeply want. So head on over to qualialife.com/mindy. They're offering 15% off.

• 20:28Mindy Pelz?

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• 20:59Mindy Pelz?

  La siguiente cosa que quiero que piensen es lo que yo llamo la "gente de las chicas". Así que la segunda parte de este libro es realmente sobre el estilo de vida. Y una de las cosas que me han irritado y mirando todo lo que está pasando en las redes sociales alrededor de la menopausa y la vejez es que nos están dando una historia de que somos una víctima de esta experiencia. Y nunca somos víctimas. Y quiero traer que si estás depresiva, si estás perdiendo memoria, si no sabes cómo conectarte a otras personas, si no estás durmiendo, esa no es culpa de tu médico, ese no es un problema de bajo estrés que estés víctima.

• 21:44Mindy Pelz?

  Eso es un señal de que tienes la oportunidad de cambiar tu estilo de vida. En la página 54 tengo un gráfico de la "gente de las chicas". Y lo que quería asegurarme que hicimos es que si tenías un síntoma, podrías ir a este gráfico y decir: "Estoy perdiendo memoria y tengo dificultad en el aprendizaje". Está debajo del neurotransmisor ceta-collin. "Ok, necesito probar algunas nuevas habilidades, necesito tal vez ir a una meditación, necesito practicar mi contabilidad". Y podrías entrar y obtener lo que solíamos llamar una versión de "cliff notes" de lo que hacer.

• 22:29Mindy Pelz?

  Así que para muchos de ustedes, la sección 2 del libro, la parte 2, lo que vas a leer un capítulo y podrías decir: "Bueno, eso no es yo. No me resuena con eso". Pero luego podrías ir a otro capítulo y decir: "Oh, wow, esto es yo". Y tengo listas sobre listas sobre listas de lo que puedes hacer para corregir tus síntomas, tú los correges con tu estilo de vida. Tú eres el héroe de tu propia historia. No estás... No estás como un auxiliar de esta experiencia de la vejez. Tú tienes que controlarlo. Así que la "gente de las chicas" fue mi intento de mostrarte que había este enorme cambio neuroquímico

• 23:13Mindy Pelz?

  que te estaba pasando. Y cuando te quedas deprimido, cuando no puedes dormir, cuando no puedes recordar, cuando tus músculos se están desperdiciando, cuando siempre te lastimas, hay una cura de estilo de vida. Nos han enseñado en esta cultura poner la medicina antes del estilo de vida. Creo que eso es completamente incorrecto. Siempre deberíamos ir primero al estilo de vida y tratar de trabajar en cambiar nuestro entorno para ver si obtenemos una reacción diferente con nuestro cuerpo. Y luego, si eso no funciona, luego vamos a mirar la medicina. Pero una de las grandes cosas que quería hacer con este libro es asegurarme de que las mujeres no duermen a la furia.

• 23:58Mindy Pelz?

  La furia no está ahí porque tienes el OB equivocado que no te pondría la correcta dosis de HRT. Tal vez la furia esté ahí porque has exhortado tu dignidad durante tantos años y estás exhausta. Así que quería volver a esta investigación de cómo usamos nuestro estilo de vida para poder ayudarnos a nosotros mismos. Vas a crear tu propia vejez como un estilo de vida de las chicas. Así que cuando miras la "gente de las chicas" en la página 54 y pasas por esos capítulos, mira lo que necesitas hacer. Voy a llamar a mí misma. Y sé que cuando traemos a Leanne, vamos a hablar de esto. Pero el estrés en realidad estimuló a un guardián del tiempo en tu cerebro.

• 24:42Mindy Pelz?

  Y ese guardián del tiempo le dijo a tu cuerpo cuándo hacer melatonina para que pudiera comenzar a duerme y despertarse. Pero cuando el estrés se fue, de repente el guardián del tiempo en tu cerebro es como: "No sé qué es día, no sé qué es noche, no sé cuándo hacer melatonina". Así que en realidad necesitas hacer tu propia melatonina y puedes hacerlo a través de la luz. Tú estás tan brillantemente diseñado que tienes receptores en tus ojos, receptores que siempre están rastreando el cielo nocturno y el cielo de la mañana. Y está haciendo una evaluación sobre cuándo puedes poner melatonina, cuándo tu cuerpo debería hacer melatonina y cuándo no debería. Así que cuando lees el capítulo del sueño,

• 25:26Mindy Pelz?

  entiende que debido a que el estrés se fue, no significa que estés condenado con una mala noche de sueño desde aquí afuera. Significa que eres responsable a través del estilo de vida para empezar a traer la melatonina de vuelta. Cuando estás mirando las identidades que quieres esparcir en tu vida y estás mirando lo que quieres traer de vuelta, realmente te estoy ofreciendo una perspectiva que he pasado todo el año haciendo. No estoy bromeando. He pasado todo el año en la investigación por sí misma y realmente me estoy preguntando: ¿Qué quiere que Mandy quiera ahora? Pero lo que realmente quiero ver si podemos hacer es: ¿Puedes traer todo lo que quieres crear en tu vida?

• 26:08Mindy Pelz?

  ¿Podemos reducirlo a una palabra? Así que quiero que veas cuando miras la antigua versión de ti, cuando miras la nueva versión de ti, cuando miras el sistema nervioso y cómo lo tienes que regularizar, cuando miras la "gente de las chicas", ¿Puedes resumir lo que quieres traer a tu vida en una palabra? Te diré mi palabra. El año pasado, ironicamente, mi palabra fue "jugar". Siento que el universo es como: "Hahaha, vamos a ver si puedes encontrar... si puedes jugar entre un montón de crisis". Pero con el año que pasó, eso es lo que aseguré de hacer, es jugar, jugar, jugar, jugar.

• 26:51Mindy Pelz?

  Es como: "Continúa jugando, continúa trayendo a mi pequeña chica de vuelta". Estoy pensando que mi palabra, no he completamente entrado en ella, pero siento que el mundo me ha enseñado esto este año. Es que creo que mi palabra para este año es "surrender". Porque si hay una cosa que aprendí este año es que tenemos muy poco control y la única cosa con la que tenemos control es nuestra propia actitud. Y así comencé a ver que todo en mi vida, si me golpeó o me golpeó o me hizo sentir mal, pensé: "Está bien, Mandy, tú tienes control de esto y tú tienes que elegir tu actitud". Esta palabra, escribo mi palabra en todos los lugares. Está por mi espejo cuando me cepillo los dientes,

• 27:34Mindy Pelz?

  la pongo en la parte de frente de mi pantalla de casa, en mi teléfono. La tengo en todas partes. Nunca se cae fuera de mi visión. Y el año pasado fue jugar. Comencé a aprender, aprendí a surfar. Ese fue un gran momento de juego. Y este año será "surrender". Y así tendré la oportunidad de seguir recordándome una y otra vez que no tengo control y que debería dejarlo y solo disfrutar de tener una gran actitud. Así que estoy trabajando en eso. Así que luego, lo último que quiero decir, y luego voy a traer a Leanne, es que la última sección del libro es la sección de la transformación. Así que tenemos la filosofía en la parte 1,

• 28:19Mindy Pelz?

  así que puedes ver cómo es el viaje de ser mujer y por qué la menopausa realmente nos puede atrapar de weird way y por qué la vejez es un momento realmente poderoso para nosotros. Esa es la parte 1. La segunda parte del libro, gracias, continúen. La segunda parte del libro es realmente sobre cómo usas tu estilo de vida para ayudarte a ti misma. Y la tercera parte del libro es cómo transformas en una persona diferente. Y en esa parte, me presenté algo que realmente amo y vino de una canción que es realmente agradable y no sé si Leanne ni siquiera sabe esto. No es una de sus canciones, pero ella debería gustar esta canción. Es "La árbol de limón", escrito por Trevor Hall.

• 29:02Mindy Pelz?

  Y estaba escuchando la canción de la árbol de limón un día y las palabras eran algo como: "Ahí estás, finalmente te encontré". "Estabas escondiéndote en el árbol de limón. "Has estado en el árbol de limón todo el tiempo". Y estaba tan curiosa por estas líneas que tuve que buscar la razón mitológica de un árbol de limón. Y lo que encontré fue mucho atrás, en los tiempos medievales, hace siglos, que en Europa había muchos árboles de limón que reunían lugares. Y esos lugares de reunión eran donde llegaron las mujeres a unirse para sanar, para llorar, para lamentar y para unirse

• 29:47Mindy Pelz?

  para que pudieran ser una fundación más fuerte para la comunidad. Un ejemplo clásico de una comunidad de árboles de limón en este momento es lo que hacen en Okinawa. Siempre los ponemos en un pedestal y decimos: "Bueno, gato, en Okinawa la mujer vive el tiempo más largo". Bueno, uno de sus secretos es que crean "mois". Y "mois" son grupos de mujeres que comparten recursos. Así que si el esposo de una mujer muere, de repente ella va y abre, o otra mujer abrirá su casa para ella. Si una mujer está enferma, otra mujer traerá su comida. Y así las mujeres se reúnen y apoyan el otro en esa mitad de su vida.

• 30:32Mindy Pelz?

  Ahora, somos una comunidad global. Y así creo que lo que quería presentar fue cómo creamos árboles de limón en nuestra vida. Y una de las cosas que sé que hemos hecho en nuestra comunidad es que creamos la "Academia Reset" y nuestra "Academia Reset" es un árbol de limón virtual.

• 30:52Mindy Pelz?

  So with that, are you there, my friend?

• 30:55Speaker 01

  I'm here.

• 30:56Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, there you are.

• 30:57Speaker 01

  You made me cry with the Lime Tree thing. I was literally just when it got to you.

• 31:02Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, my gosh. Have you heard that song?

• 31:04Speaker 01

  No, I love him so much, but I haven't heard the Lime Tree songs. And I'm gonna have to listen to the Lime Tree songs.

• 31:09Mindy Pelz?

  Can you remake that song for me?

• 31:11Speaker 01

  Sure, I will do that. I'll give it to you as a little Christmas gift. That'll be your Christmas gift.

• 31:17Mindy Pelz?

  Thank you. I will tell you that my favorite thing, I'm just gonna let the behind the scenes is I get a Happy Birthday sung to me by LeAnn every year. And like, my birthday's never been the same. So now I just need the Lime Tree song.

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Yes, okay, you got it.

• 31:30Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, thank you.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 31:32Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, we're gonna start with your favorite question first.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Okay, what is that?

• 31:36Mindy Pelz?

  Are you ready?

• 31:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:38Mindy Pelz?

  How do you know when you are at hit-max capacity with your nervous system? Which might be today.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  I'm on it. I'm beat right now. Yeah, you know how I really know is when I voice, I rarely say I'm about to have a breakdown. I've said that twice in the last week. And that's when I know. I mean, obviously, we don't have to let it get to that place. But I become very overwhelmed. It's funny, when you were talking about, I've been on here for a while, listening to you. I was, when you were talking about freeze, which I've been in actual freeze many times before and kind of lived that a very big part of my life in actual freeze, where like

• 32:29Speaker 01

  I couldn't mobilize off the couch. But, and I don't feel like I'm in freeze, but I actually went to look up, as you were talking, I was like, what are, I'm like, what are the actual signs of freeze? And I found something that said functional freeze, which was really interesting. And one of the signs is of being overwhelmed on the inside, but still functioning on the outside. And I was like, oh, that's exactly where I'm at. I'm in functional freeze right now. I just had a lot going on. We just, my godmother passed away in the midst of touring and filming a TV show in Nashville. Like, I've been, I've had to deal with grief and, you know, that kind of like sent me over the edge. So it's also the end of the year. I'm tired. I'm just tired. I'm done. I'm over it.

• 33:13Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Ready to sit my ass on the couch. And binge-watch a TV show. Yeah, that's, I think it's, for me, I've noticed my body gets like super tight. I start to get really achy. I start to get really just no energy, even though I know I've slept.

• 33:35Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  I mean, I've recently been sleeping really well, which is amazing. But at the same time, when I know I've slept really well and I'm still exhausted, you know, I know that's also hormonal. There's so many components to that, so it's not just necessarily all nervous system. But right now, I definitely know my nervous system has been, I've been in fight or flight for at least, you know, several weeks now, so.

• 33:58Mindy Pelz?

  I think something you said is really interesting, because I found that voice a lot. And even last year at this time, like before the fires hit, I was like, God, like, what does a breakdown feel like? Or I would find myself being like, I think I've hit my max, but I don't know what that is. Like, we don't have a good explanation for the max. But I walked around already like, I'm done, I'm over it, I can't keep doing it. But I think as women, so many times, we're like, I can't keep going, I can't keep doing this. And then the next day, we pick ourselves up and we go and do it.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:34Mindy Pelz?

  And there's never a moment where we're able to switch back into that parasympathetic. So talk a little bit.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Completely.

• 34:42Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, like, what do you do? Because you, I mean, you've accomplished more in your lifetime than most people will do in multiple lifetimes. So how do you get back into parasympathetic?

• 34:52Speaker 01

  Well, I have, I have a gazillion tools at my disposal. I'm very fortunate. You know, I think it takes a moment. I'm in such an interesting position, because I travel all the time. And as soon as I, like, for instance, I just got home last night at midnight, and I'm here for literally 48 hours, and then I leave again. So I don't really ever have a chance to completely land a lot of the time. Only when I have like, you know, at least a couple of weeks to just sit still, can I actually start to unwind that. So, you know, it's a challenge. But I definitely feel like, one of the, and you said something about this earlier, one

• 35:34Speaker 01

  of the biggest things that I've noticed is verbalizing.

• 35:38Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 01

  Even when I, you know, I sat, one of the times I said I was gonna have a breakdown was right before, like a couple of hours before a show the other day. And I knew, like, I literally thought to myself, I'm like, I had to say, I want to not walk out on stage. I'm about to have a breakdown. I think I might not walk out on stage tonight. I think I might cancel the show. And I actually had to, I had to tell everybody around me, and I had to give myself the option.

• 36:00Mindy Pelz?

  Yep. I think that was like my, I'm not okay.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:04Mindy Pelz?

  You know, like, after like running from fire and trying to figure out what was going on, it's like, everybody was like, are you, tell me you're okay, tell me you're okay. I'm like, I can't tell you I'm okay. And it was so relieving.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  Right, I'm not okay. I walked into my chiropractor this morning, and the lady looks at me, she goes, are you okay? I said, no, I'm not. But thank you for asking. I'm not okay. But I'm, I mean, like, all is well, but I'm not okay right now.

• 36:26Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. I think we need to do that, because society has taught us.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Why bullshit anymore? I'm so sick of bullshitting. I'm just over it.

• 36:35Mindy Pelz?

  It's like, the world doesn't want to know we're not okay. So we need to start verbalizing it, so.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then, and then you give, what I usually find is the person in front of me goes, I'm not okay either.

• 36:45Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Cool, great, let's not be okay together.

• 36:47Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  I'm okay with that. Yeah, but I do think one of the biggest things is verbalizing. And then, you know, I mean, for me, there's all the tools of, you know, you talk about, you know, talk about light, like using, I have these AYO light glasses that I use all the time, like to regulate my, you know, regulate my sleep. And then I get into hyperbaric. I use oxygen a lot, like, I use IVs a lot, I use peptides. Like, there are so many things externally that I use. So don't get it, don't get twisted, there's like a gazillion other things in my toolbox that I, you know, meditation and massage and, you know, like, I found, I found the things that work for me, and I definitely heavily lean into them when I need to.

• 37:32Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, and I think the toolbox needs to be vast.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Yes, it does. Because sometimes the things that worked yesterday aren't gonna work today.

• 37:39Mindy Pelz?

  That's right.

• 37:40Speaker 01

  And so, and I also find, it's a fine line, because I can, I'm one of those people that I'm like, I have all these tools, and I need to get them all done today, because I need to take care of myself, because I have 48 hours to actually like recover. So sometimes that can also add more stress. But I've, I've found that, you know, I try to lean into the joy of that and the gratitude of like, oh, I have all these things at my disposal, what's gonna make me feel good? What's gonna support me? And if I look at it that way, instead of like, oh, God, I have all these things that I need to do right now, because I have to recover. It's like, oh, what is, what is, what does my body need?

• 38:22Speaker 01

  What's gonna make me, what's gonna bring me some joy? And I really do, I do enjoy taking care of myself, because it ultimately, my future self, it makes me feel better. So I actually find a lot of joy in the process of health.

• 38:39Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah. You bring up a really good point, because I did this actually before I came here. I had two weeks where I was gonna be in San Diego, LA, and then New York. And the week before I came, I looked at my schedule, and I was like, well, this schedule sucks. There's like, it's like back to back to back. So I literally like could feel the anxiety coming up, because my schedule is too tight. And so I was like, okay, I'm gonna cancel this, I'm gonna cancel this. And in 30 minutes, I canceled like five things off my schedule. And I was like, oh, my God, I feel so much better.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 39:15Mindy Pelz?

  Like, in that little bit of time, just acknowledging that I can't do it all, those things, and some of them, one of them was a massage, but I was like, I'm gonna rush from this thing to this thing, I don't want to do that. So the litmus test is joy. The litmus test needs to be, oh, that makes me feel better.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  And ease. I mean, I, you know, sometimes I'll go, like, just to use the show, for instance, sometimes I've done three shows in a row, and I'm like, I'm gonna cut two songs off my show tonight, because I'm gonna still walk on stage, but I don't have every, I'm not running at 100% tonight. So I'm gonna still show up, but then also, how can I show up authentically? So like, when I walk out, you know, I've said sometimes, I'm not, I'm exhausted. I've literally said that on stage. So I need you guys to like, give me some, I need your energy tonight. Like, just being, just having that conversation. I know, we'll get into this, but you talk about like what I was as a kid. So much of me as a kid was perfection.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  And so, you know, to unwind that and to show up, like, oh, my, for instance, my hair's four days old today, so I've stuck a hat on. I was gonna show up in sweats, but I actually like just bought this hat.

• 40:27Mindy Pelz?

  I love when you wear that hat.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  I'm gonna wear this hat today. So I, yeah, I think like...

• 40:33Speaker 01

  Really letting things like not be perfect. And especially, I think it's so refreshing.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  When someone in my position is constantly like, you know, everybody in my position, most of the time, it is rare to find someone who will show up imperfectly. Because we all want, you know, people to think that we are all so polished and pretty and happy and everything's great. And I'm like, no, no, I did that as a kid and I'm so over it. Like, it's just, it's so freeing. And like you're saying, you give other women, other people, permission to show up differently.

• 41:10Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. Yeah, you gotta share the story, because I've shared it for you of your teeth.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, yes.

• 41:18Mindy Pelz?

  That was a great moment. It was a classic moment of like, I'm not playing the game anymore.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  No, and I, well, luckily, so I was on stage and I have a bridge in the front. I went through, it's a long story, but I've been through 40 dental surgeries in the last, like, 12 years. It's that nightmare. But I have a bridge in the front and it's right in the front. And it decided to pop out in mid-show, about four songs in, actually. And so I literally, like, put my hand over my mouth and said, "Hold on," and ran to the side of the stage and pushed it back in. And I was like, "Oh, it's gonna stay in." So I was literally singing and pushing in, like, after every line. And I knew I was either gonna have to walk offstage and just stop the show, or I could

• 42:09Speaker 01

  continue. Thank God, I was able to push it back in enough to continue. And I just told everybody, I was like, "This is what's going on. This has never happened to me. This is probably the most vulnerable moment I've ever had on stage." And of course, we were in Washington State and the sweet people up there were like yelling at me, "Nobody has teeth up here, it's okay."

• 42:29Mindy Pelz?

  See what happens when you admit it?

• 42:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, everybody, I just had this whole different rapport with the crowd all of a sudden. And people would have understood if I had to walk offstage, because I was just honest about it. But I was able to continue and have fun with it. And it was hysterical. I laughed the whole time. And I was like, I mean, just thinking to myself, I've been on stage for 30 years professionally, and I've never had this happen.

• 42:55Mindy Pelz?

  I think that was great.

• 42:56Speaker 01

  Like, yeah, it was just, it gave me a new appreciation for myself.

• 43:02Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 43:03Speaker 01

  Because I was like, whoa, I just went through something really vulnerable and made fun of it. I had a great time with it, actually.

• 43:12Mindy Pelz?

  What do you think your 15-year-old would have done if that had happened?

• 43:16Speaker 01

  She probably would have done the same thing, honestly. Yeah, I think I, I think I was, I think when it come, I'm kind of, you know, being on stage is like a superpower for me. And so I think, I think I still knew vulnerability then onstage. I mean, there was times, there were times when I was younger, where I was really sick and, I mean, I was really ill onstage and I had to just stop and be like, "I can't continue." And that was at 14. So I definitely have always had that in me. But I, I think what the difference was, is, was back then, is I had so much guilt about having to walk offstage. And now, if I would have had to walk off, I would have been like, there's no guilt there, it's just, it's just what happened.

• 44:00Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  You know?

• 44:01Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, my God, that's so beautiful.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:03Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, take us back to like, seven-year-old LeAnn. I've been the beneficiary of some great stories of your life, because your life is definitely like nobody else's. And one of the things I always think about is how at two, they recognized your voice. And, and I know, like, you had a very unique, playful childhood, and then you became a professional singer pretty quickly. Who were you before you became the professional singer?

• 44:31Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, I was even, if you think about seven, I was singing at a show every Saturday night in Fort Worth, Texas. So I was learning a new song every week. So, you know, there was rehearsal all the way up into that Saturday where I performed. So I was as professional as I could have gotten at seven, you know? I was professional then.

• 44:50Mindy Pelz?

  Did you like performing onstage at seven?

• 44:52Speaker 01

  I loved it, yeah. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, yeah, it was so fun. And I loved, and that's, I was very curious. I loved learning, I loved learning a new song every week. I loved being creative. I was really playful. And that was the, kind of, the rub back then was, I wanted to go play more, where I had to work more, you know? I had to work a lot of the time. So I think I was more playful than what I was able to, you know, what I was given the time to be back then. I was, I've always been very curious, and we've talked about this, you know, of me going and looking up stuff, like, I'll go, I'll go research.

• 45:30Mindy Pelz?

  I'm like, that's so you, that you're looking it up.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  I'm such a researcher on things. I'm like, ooh, what's that about? I hated science back in the day, but now, like, I love to concoct candles and perfume and, and I'll make, like, you know, I'm like, oh, so-and-so made a drink that makes you, you know, relax? I'm like, that's not strong enough for me. Let me go get all the ingredients and then get myself. So like, I, and I didn't know that about myself until I got older, is that, that was actually a part of me that was really present. And, and wanted to be, and wanted to come out. So I think, you know, these last couple of years for me have been trying new things. Like, I really like to try new things. And I think because of having, because of being in the public eye so early and people

• 46:16Speaker 01

  having expectations of like, you, or maybe this is just in my mind, but I think, I think it is actually an expectation of like, you are, you're so amazing at this one thing. No, if you, if you go over to acting, or you go somewhere else, or do try something else, if you write a book, like, it has to be that amazing. Which I realized, like, this gift is like something that's otherworldly. And I finally had to be like, I need to, I'm never gonna, I'm never, I'm not saying never, this gift is a one-of-a-kind thing and it's a, it's, it's not, it doesn't necessarily bleed over into, into being that amazing in every aspect of my life. And that's okay. I've had to come to terms with that's okay.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  And people can, allowing people to see me fail, I've gotten, I can't stand, I used to not be able to stand when people would see my process. I only wanted them to see that end, end, you know, product. And so now, I, and especially with acting, you know, this is, I'm doing a TV show for the first time, never done that in my life. And, you know, to have to collaborate with other people, I'm an only child, to have to collaborate with all these other people and to have, to have them see my process, where I'm not comfortable necessarily in that process, I'm getting more comfortable. That was like one of my biggest fears walking into this show. It's like, oh, people are gonna see I don't know what I'm doing.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  And it's actually been really liberating, because nobody else knows, I mean, people, people have more experience than me that are on this show, but when we're talking about this scene, like, no, none of us have done it. Nobody knows what they're doing until we do it, you know? So it's, it's really kind of given me perspective on, like, you know, really opening myself up to try all the new things that my little kid in me really wants to do. She wants to try new things.

• 48:08Mindy Pelz?

  Right. Yeah, and that, and she got pigeonholed into one profession for a really long time.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:14Mindy Pelz?

  I haven't, I haven't shared this with you, but I have a new feeling about what confidence is. And I think we get confidence when we are congruent with ourselves. So in that situation, you didn't go in and try to be LeAnn Rimes, the Grammy Award-winning singer and songwriter. You were like, "I'm an actress, you know, starting this part of my career." And you called yourself out in the process. And now you get confidence in that, because you're not trying to put on a facade of, like, if you walked in and you're like, "I'm a badass actress," like that, you might be a little, right?

• 48:53Speaker 01

  Right, that's true. And I also talk about my fears, like, I mean, I'll tell the director, "I'm uncomfortable in this scene, I'm really worried about this part," or, "I need a little more help in this situation," or "I'll talk to the writers," you know? I'm very, I'm just not afraid to speak my truth about how I'm feeling.

• 49:13Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 49:14Speaker 01

  In order to break down that wall of needing to be something more.

• 49:20Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  And that's that congruency that you're speaking of. When we can just be, when we can allow out the emotion that's inside of us and not have to project it on anyone else, but just like, say, this is what's happening inside of me.

• 49:34Mindy Pelz?

  Call it out.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  It just, it literally shifts everything.

• 49:39Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, right, right.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  Everything. Like, all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm scared, and then I speak, and I'm like, oh, well, maybe I'm not really scared anymore.

• 49:46Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really true, it's really true. Okay, talk to me about your toolbox. So, you know, LeAnn, we've been working together for like three, I don't know, whole life, feels like.

• 49:59Mindy Pelz?

  But one of the things I loved when you, you and I first met, is you were just really curious about how your body worked and you just wanted to learn. And so, one by one, we started creating different tools for different symptoms and different times. And I feel like that toolbox has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger. So you're 43 now, right? And you're in perimenopause. And so what are some of your favorite tools? And you can say any of them, but just so people can understand that. And how has your toolbox evolved even in the last three years?

• 50:32Speaker 01

  It has, oh yeah, I mean, it just continues to grow. You know, I, one of, look, I, I use HRT, I'm a fan of it. I'm a huge fan of it. When my estrogen's low, I'm not, it's not fun. It just, and especially when I have to go out and do things. I don't want my body to hurt and all the things. So, you know, I, actually, one of the greatest things that I found, I use a hormone test every morning that I'm, that I pee on a stick and I see where I'm at. And instead of, I know when we first started working together before I had this test, it was like, we would, it was like throwing things at my symptoms. And now with this test, I'm like, oh, I can see that my estrogen's low, so I need a little more estrogen a day.

• 51:17Speaker 01

  And I'm like, I can, I can help dose myself properly. So that's been super helpful.

• 51:21Mindy Pelz?

  Talk about what the test is called.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's called OVA, O-O-V-A, and I absolutely love it. And it's easy every morning. And it's, like I said, if you're, if you're on HRT, it's, it's great to be able to, to dose properly on the day, you know? So that's been helpful. Like, you know, we talked about, there's one of the, one of the massive things that changed for me, because you and I, I had very high mercury when we met and I had a lot of anxiety. And I thought, obviously, some of it was my life, but also a lot of it was the mercury. And we started slowly detoxing me. And every time we would use the suppositories and the whole thing to like detox, the slow way, I, I got horrible anxiety when that mercury would come out of my system.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  So we found Ibu, which has been like a massive change for me to be able to go and, and kind of detox a little bit faster, in a more efficient way. It, it's definitely better for my lifestyle. So Ibu's been a big deal, like, you know, keeping up with supplements and things that I know work for me, peptides. Peptides has been a huge, huge shift for me with sleep.

• 52:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, what else, what else do I do?

• 52:38Mindy Pelz?

  Let me just address what those are, so we don't lose everybody. We put a link in there for, for OVA, those of you that want to try it.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 52:44Mindy Pelz?

  It doesn't matter where you are in your journey. What it does is it gives you a, a baseline of like where your hormones are, hormones are at. So then if you're like progesterone is low, and it gives you a chart according to where you should be, then you know, okay, here are the qualities that I need to, to work on. If your estrogen's low, so you, you can use your lifestyle on a daily basis. It's incredible.

• 53:05Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 53:06Mindy Pelz?

  Ibu, my, Bree on my team just put in there, Ibu is the best form of detox that I know right now. And it's, it's like extracellular blood, oxidation, ozone therapy. It's like a really long thing. But I'll, I'll tell you where you can go. You can go to Next Health, for those of you that are in the United States. They have franchises everywhere. And they, you can start to get your, get Ibu there if you want to learn about. And they're doing peptides, too. So you can even walk into Next Health and be like, hey, and mention LeAnn and I's name. They, they know us well. And, and just say, I want peptides and Ibu, and they will, they'll, they'll make that happen, so.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  People, I just saw someone asking about what peptides. I've been, I, I use a lot of different ones and I cycle them all, every like eight to 12 weeks. I found DSIP for sleep is very helpful. In fact, I just got my O-Ring score, like the end of the year score, and I can tell when I started using certain peptides, because my sleep got better. I was like, oh, wow, it really worked.

• 54:06Mindy Pelz?

  That's where, I'm going to DSIP when I get home. I've got it waiting in my refrigerator. Yeah.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  That's helpful. You know, I've done, I've done some tesamorelin, tesamorelin, however you say that, tesamorelin, tesamorelin, ipamorlin. I've done, I've done stuff for skin with GHKCU. There's a, there's a bunch of, I love, one of the biggest things, actually, let's talk about this, one of the biggest things that I have gone in on is my mitochondria. Because that is our energy, right? Like mitochondria is our energy. I don't want anymore, I, trust me, I, I've gotten off of, I got off of any, any energy drinks this year. I was having some really bad acid reflux, so I'm like, it stripped everything back. I went to low acid coffee. I still drink coffee in the morning, but I'm not like four or five cups. I'm only like one or two.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  And I, I've, I've found, when I started to go in on my mitochondria, which I found that a peptide called SS31 that was really helpful, and Motsi, that actually has been such a huge change in my energy. Where I could have consistent, you know, consistent energy where I'm not crashing. And trust me, my life is, if, if I can feel, if I can feel like I have energy, everybody can feel like they have energy.

• 55:27Mindy Pelz?

  It's your number one, it's your number one desire.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  Yes, it really is.

• 55:31Mindy Pelz?

  My energy, my energy.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  It really is, right, yeah. Energy, it used to be my brain, it used to be depression and anxiety. And now we've kind of moved from that into, okay, I need some energy. And I'm going after my mitochondria and really learning about mitochondria has been super helpful. And that's been, just in the last couple of months, where I've really seen a change. So, yeah, I, I'm a huge advocate for peptides. I know they've definitely worked for me.

• 55:56Mindy Pelz?

  I've never seen anything work as good as peptides. So, I, and there, somebody said something about the acronyms. These are their names. I don't, we don't know how to, we can't call them anything else. It took, it took LeAnn and I, we actually sat down and we're like learning together to try to figure it out and stack them. And it, the learning curve was steep, which is why I'm really happy to say, go to Next Health, and they'll figure it out. So, last question before we open it up for questions from everybody else. And I love this question, I hope you've had time to think on it. What does LeAnn Rimes look like at 70?

• 56:31Speaker 01

  You know, so my godmother just passed away, she was 96. And one of the most beautiful things, as we were all reflecting on her life, is how much of a teacher she was, and a mentor, and to so many women. And I think that that's where I'll be at 70. I mean, I have no ass to be performing.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  And, you know, music and, and create, creation will always be a huge part of my life. But I really feel this pull somehow, I don't know how that's going to look. I see myself being this very like, I mean, you know, I, I've created a couple chant records now, I love creating my frequency candles. I just see that side of me coming out more, where I'm just, you know, my woo woo self, allowing her to like be fully present.

• 57:18Mindy Pelz?

  Let her out.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:25Speaker 01

  Do you know the word that came up to me a lot? I wrote a song called Satisfied years ago about myself, because I just felt like I was never satisfied, no matter what. And I still feel like that a lot of the time. I hope to be satisfied at 70. I want to look around and just feel, yeah, I don't know, just really grounded and, and proud of, and be able to look back at all the things I've accomplished, but, and maybe just feel like, I don't need to accomplish so much as I do now need to pass on what I've learned to other, to other women, so.

• 58:01Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, I love that. I, you know what, I want to go back to the, one of the conversations we had when we first met, which is your vision for the retreat, the frequency retreat. Where we would gather women and we would bring them, have this multi-sensory experience.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  Yes, we're going to do that still. It's, it's happening. It's just, it just needs to, to birth itself. So, that's exactly what, when I, when you asked me that this morning, I was like, that's what I, that's where I see myself, is like this, you know, gathering women and, and just, maybe I just gather them all and sing to them, and it just, you know, and maybe that, maybe that's all it is. And it's just more of a, a more of a one on, like, not one on one, but more of a, like a, a smaller container of connection.

• 58:48Speaker 01

  You know, it's even, yeah.

• 58:49Mindy Pelz?

  I think that's how we're designed, by the way. In all the research I did for this book, I actually think of our whole ti- time of our life as women, we are the most biologically designed to come together in our post-menopausal years. It's, it's just instinctual. And it's part of what we do. So I can totally see that.

• 59:10Speaker 01

  Well, that's why the lime tree, I think, made me cry, because I was like, oh, that's just, obviously, it's calling my heart, it's, my heart is calling to that, you know? So, yeah, I love that. I can't wait.

• 59:21Mindy Pelz?

  Can you put some scarves around your microphone?

• 59:24Speaker 01

  Yes. I'm going to sew me Stevie Nicks. Without, I told you, without the heels, because I am, I'm done with heels. I'm done with heels.

• 59:31Mindy Pelz?

  I saw Stevie Nicks at the gorge like a couple of years ago, and I came back to LeAnn and I was like, can you please do that? She had like cool scarves and beads, but she had these high heels and she kind of like came on stage.

• 59:45Mindy Pelz?

  So it's possible. She showed us it's possible.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  Yes, absolutely.

• 59:49Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. Okay, I'm going to go to questions. And let's see, I actually have some of them written right here. Okay, and these are live. Okay, so Deborah, she's, I'm 20 years post-menopausal, how would you suggest I go through the book? It gives a voice to my past experience, but what would be the most valuable for me at this point? So, yeah, okay, so the, it's, you know, I think for, here's what I'm going to say, when I told my mom, my 86-year-old mom, I, what the book was about, she's like, oh, that's actually a book of yours I'd read.

• 1:00:26Mindy Pelz?

  I know your mom has some opinions about your music, Leanne.

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  Oh, 1,000%. Like, but my favorite is the, because she's, my mom is very religious and I don't think she completely understands my chant album. And so, because she, I mean, I'm like, Mom, it's all, it's all from spirit. It's all good. And she, she, my mom has everything, all of my albums in her phone, except my chant album. So, there you go. She's like, that's maybe not an album I'll listen to.

• 1:00:54Mindy Pelz?

  Wasn't there was something she wanted to play the other day when you were with her? And she said, just play anything of hers except the chant?

• 1:01:00Speaker 01

  Yes, that was it, yes. And so, there you go.

• 1:01:04Mindy Pelz?

  That's great. So, Deborah, to answer your question, read part one. Part one is where you will understand where to go next. Because you'll see the philosophy behind aging from a new lens. So, I think that's the first starting point. Okay, Eden wants to know, what was my favorite? What is your favorite part of the book? And what did you learn the most about yourself when writing it? So, I'm going to answer this, and then I have a question for you on self-reflection, Leanne. So, I would say, I wrote this book trying to understand what happens to us emotionally and behavior-wise as we go through this experience. And what I discovered was what a, what a good steward of the culture I've been.

• 1:01:48Mindy Pelz?

  And how I've really, like, at the sake of my own self, I have done all, checked all the boxes and done everything for everybody else. And actually, in the middle of writing this, I had a friend say to me, you know, Mindy, it's so interesting, because I watch you, and you, you get so stressed and worried about disappointing other people, but you don't worry about disappointing yourself. And that was a good friend. It was like, poof, poof. So, I think I discovered how to take better care of myself. And I think, you know, Leanne, I'll just say this to you, like, one of the things I've admired about you is that despite you've had so many people around you, needing you

• 1:02:29Mindy Pelz?

  to perform a certain way, you do seem like you take amazing good care of yourself in that, yeah. Talk a little bit about that.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  I have to, I have to. I, yeah, I think that I have, you look, I've been the center of a lot of people's world and my own world for a very long time. And I don't, I've had to do, I've had to be the center of my world in order to go out and perform, and to give other people what they want from me. And so, we, but I don't think I was always that way. I don't think I realized, I think you helped me understand recovery, and the need to fill myself, not just recovery of my body, but also my spirit and my, my joy, like, the

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  need to also give myself space to enjoy life. And also, creation, I know you know this too, like, as a creator, you have to go live life in order to have something to draw from. So, yeah, I think that that's what, I, I've learned that my, my art and my, my, my spirit needs, I have to, I have to put myself first in order to be able to perform.

• 1:03:46Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. One thing you said to me, like, a couple of years ago, you said, you need to make no your best friend.

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:55Mindy Pelz?

  Could you talk, and I, and at first, I was like, okay, I got that, I got that. And then I tried to go do it, and I was like, eh, that was really hard. You didn't, you didn't tell me what to do after that.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I, I, I know my worth. I know my worth. I know also what, how, like, when something, somebody comes to me with a project, I know what it takes out of me, and how much time and effort and, and that I have to give to that thing. And so, I've, I'll only say yes when I know I have the capacity in order to do so. And I've turned down things that people would go, why are you turning that down? I'm like, because I don't have the capacity for it. I just don't. And I, and I know that, I've been around long enough to know that, like, another cool thing will come.

• 1:04:38Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:39Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:04:40Mindy Pelz?

  But that, that's everything, like, I, I can easily move in, like, in the younger version of me had FOMO, it's like, what are you doing?

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  Don't go to the party. You don't have to go to the party. There'll be another party.

• 1:04:50Mindy Pelz?

  That's right. There you go. That's it. So, then somebody came up with JOMO, the joy of missing out. And I was like, oh, so whenever I get FOMO, I'm like, but wait, maybe I actually could have JOMO right now.

• 1:05:03Speaker 01

  I like that.

• 1:05:03Mindy Pelz?

  Like, it's helpful to, and I love the way you're, there'll always be something else.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  There will be.

• 1:05:08Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, I think it's great. Okay, somebody asked about protein. We got to bring this up. Do you, do you have, do you count protein? So, do you eat more protein? Do you, what's your relationship with protein?

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  I used to count it. You stopped me from counting anything.

• 1:05:25Mindy Pelz?

  Yay. Yeah, and I really did, because I didn't want her to get, I want every woman to get into an intuitive relationship with her body. And if we're counting, we're in our head, we're not in our body.

• 1:05:36Speaker 01

  I use, I mean, I, I eat a lot of protein. I also eat more carbs now than I've ever eaten before. You also taught me that. I, but I, I also would, if, there'll be times, days, when I'm really busy, and I, I know I haven't eaten enough protein, and I go, I lean into Perfect Aminos, little amino protein powder, or I'll have an extra, like, protein shake. But I do, I do get protein, but I don't, like, stress about it.

• 1:06:04Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. Right. You know, you're like, you've seen those memes where they're like, I'm sorry, I couldn't go to work today because I was too busy counting my protein.

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:13Mindy Pelz?

  Yep, that's how far this, this protein thing has gone.

• 1:06:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's gone a little too far, for sure.

• 1:06:17Mindy Pelz?

  What do you, what do you do when you sit at a restaurant, and when you sit down to eat? Like, do you have a strategy? Because I have a strategy when I look at a menu. I'm just curious if you have.

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  Oh, you do? What's your strategy?

• 1:06:29Mindy Pelz?

  My strategy is, I don't ask myself what I want to eat. I literally, first off, look at the menu and say, what on here have I not eaten recently?

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Oh, that's right. You do do that, yes.

• 1:06:41Mindy Pelz?

  So, that way I'm like...

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, see, I'm not that, I'm not that way with food.

• 1:06:44Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, I know, you, I know. Okay, so tell us, I...

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  Well, I kind of gravitate toward what I, what I normally like, and I'm normally comfortable. Yeah, you like to go out and, like, venture out into, like, the crazy, different meats and things. And I'm like, not, not so much. But I, I will, I'll start with protein first. And then, a lot of the, you know, if I'm on, depending on what part of my cycle I'm on, I mean, I'll lean into some pasta when I need to. Like, I mean, yeah, I, I don't, I do, these days, I'm kind of, I find that I will eat for what my body feels like it needs, or what my mind feels like it needs. Sometimes I might not be at the end of my cycle, I need carbs, but I just need carbs.

• 1:07:27Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  So, you know?

• 1:07:29Mindy Pelz?

  And do you, are you, do you feel, this is a really important one. I want you, want people to hear it from you, because, do you feel guilty when that happens? When you're like, I need carbs today?

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Not anymore. I used to. I don't anymore, no. Because I know I'm giving my mind, the old thinking was, oh, no carbs. Like, I was very...

• 1:07:49Mindy Pelz?

  Because I might get fat.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah. I'm going to get bloated, and I'm going to get fat, and it's, but now I'm, yeah, now I, I definitely, I need carbs. I enjoy them. They're great. Everyone should have a carb.

• 1:08:01Mindy Pelz?

  Yay. I know. I mean, it's, we've gotten way too much, too many absolutes in the health world.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  But also, healthy carbs. Yeah, I mean, I'm not eating crap. That's the thing. There's a difference between, like, just eating healthier carbs and not eating crap. And I think that's, I, I thought that all carbs were bad, you know?

• 1:08:20Mindy Pelz?

  Right, right. Yeah. And I think that was the message a lot of people got. So, okay, this was an interesting one. Somebody, and I'm going to ask, she asked it for me on my book tour, but then I'm going to ask it for you, because I think this is another skill that I'm learning. So, the question was, what are you looking forward to most, once the grind of your book promotion tour ends? And I'll tell you something that somebody, a mentor taught me years ago, and that was to put your head down and do a job really intensely for a short period of time, and then have a vacation or some downtime already pre-scheduled after that. So, like, when I'm, I'm taking a plane here in a couple of hours, and I'm going home

• 1:09:05Mindy Pelz?

  for two weeks, and I'm just chilling with my family. And that was already pre-designed. And I don't know about you, Leanne, but for me, if I don't know that's there, then I'm just burnt out.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  I do that.

• 1:09:20Mindy Pelz?

  I get in the middle of it, and I'm like, oh, I got to do that, and I got to do that. But if I know, like, I've known all along that I have the next, from here until the end of the year, off with my family, like, I actually can relax in the moment. Is that, and you're really good at vacations, by the way.

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I do. I, I plan things ahead of time, and have something to look forward to. Always the things, even if it's just dinner.

• 1:09:46Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  Like, when I'm, when I'm in New York, like you are, and I'm, you know, doing crazy days of work from 4:00 a.m. to, you know, God knows whenever, I will plan, like, I plan ahead of, like, this is where we're going for dinner. And I, I just, once again, things that bring you joy. So, I always, I love having things to look forward to. My life would be... Like you're saying, right, it would be so hard and like heavy without those things.

• 1:10:13Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah, and I've noticed that about you. You're really good at like, okay, I'm gonna go here and then from there I'm going on a vacation or from there I'm gonna go here. I have, I have, I have a new restaurant for you here in New York.

• 1:10:25Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:10:26Mindy Pelz?

  So yeah.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Oh, no, can't wait.

• 1:10:27Mindy Pelz?

  I was like, when we ate there the other night, I was like, oh, my God, Lee would love this. I'll, I'll, I'll send it to you.

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:33Mindy Pelz?

  Add to your list. Somebody asked about HRT, and I want to bring this up because one of the things is that when we first started working with Leanne's body, trying to figure out where it was, and, and maybe you could talk a little bit about how long you took a break from birth control before you went on HRT. We cleaned her lifestyle up, like we detoxed her, we did stuff. And then we were like, okay, we need to bring an OB in to start to work with HRT. And we, we dialed that in, and it's been amazing. But I feel like the steps we took were really appropriate. Can you talk a little bit about that journey?

• 1:11:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I also found it really interesting with your book, because we've, and we've touched upon this too. It's like, okay, well, you want your brain, you know, to switch over into this whole other realm of life. And am I, am I blunting it with, you know, am I stopping that process with HRT? Well, I'm, I'm okay doing that right now. I'm, where my life is, I'm okay using HRT, you know, fully at this moment. And so I, yeah, I was on birth control for 15, 17 years, something along those lines, where I, I would have really heavy periods and my, my vocal cords would swell. And I would end up at the hospital like before a show. And so my gynecologist put me on continuous birth control.

• 1:11:56Speaker 01

  And so I didn't have a period for like 17 years, something along those lines. And around 37, 38, I, one night at a show, I had started to bleed. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna just see what happens. And so I got off of birth control, just took myself off of it. And I, it was right before COVID. And, which is insane, I had never stopped touring until that time. So I stopped touring and went off of birth control. My hormones were insane. Thank God, my husband is a saint. So, and then I found your book and we started working together. And that's when we started to clean up my life and you started to teach me about my cycle. All the things I did not know, I'm a 40-year-old woman, I had no idea.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  So I, you know, we, detox was a huge piece of it.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  And teaching me to eat for my cycle, which was helpful. But at some point, I think because of how, of not having a period for that long. It was just, okay, we need to introduce some form of hormone here. And, and it has been very, very helpful. I am a, yeah, I've become, it's not like, I felt like I was like this for a while. And now this is like, I have days, but it's, they're much, they're much less like peaks and valleys. It's a little smoother.

• 1:13:17Mindy Pelz?

  So I think we chatted about this, but just for everybody to understand that if you're on birth control at a young age, there is no natural rhythm that your body knows because it's already been manipulated by a synthetic rhythm. So you take the birth control pill and that determines the hormonal rhythm. So when Leanne got off of that, she didn't have a natural rhythm, even though we worked with it and we brought some of that back. So when she went on to HRT, it was a really good adjunct to her healthy lifestyle that would create that rhythm. So I think, and, but HRT isn't the, isn't, not everybody just can slap a patch on and be fine. You have to pair it with lifestyle.

• 1:14:00Mindy Pelz?

  So I think that's a really important one to, to take note of. So another really interesting question here, and you and I've never talked about this. A lot of women, when they go through menopause, have really bad ADHD symptoms. Have you noticed that?

• 1:14:18Speaker 01

  I was talking to this with my co-star, about this with my co-star the other day. I, so I don't, no, I do not feel like I have ADHD symptoms. Although I have a gazillion things running in my brain at once. But I also think that's my lifestyle, like I don't, I try not to confuse it. I've actually, I tried to talk to Dr. Amen about it one time because I'm like, maybe I do have ADHD. And he's like, no, I don't think so. I think it's just you got a lot going on. But I, but I do, yeah, I think that we can, I think that it can feel like that. And we can, we, you know, there's so many tabs open because that's how we've learned to live our lives. Because we're taking care of everybody else and, you know, their lives.

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  And it can definitely feel like that. And now some people definitely may have that and are dealing with that. But I definitely think it can, it can feel that way for a lot, a lot of women.

• 1:15:13Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah, I think you bring up a really good point because I've wondered like, do I have ADHD? Have I always had ADHD? Maybe, how do I know?

• 1:15:22Speaker 01

  Like. No, you just got a lot of shit to take care of.

• 1:15:25Mindy Pelz?

  Exactly. You know what? Here's how I describe my brain. My brain is like a 20-movie Cineplex theater. And sometimes I go into one theater, I walk, I go deep into that movie. And then I'm like, I don't like this. I come out and I go to another theater, like I'm bouncing around from theater to theater. That's how my brain feels. I never know quite where it's gonna land. But if it's, but if I'm curious enough and it's interesting enough, I'm gonna stay there and drill all the way down and to understand.

• 1:15:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:51Mindy Pelz?

  Talk a little bit, somebody asked about exercise. So a really big thing right now in the menopause conversation is, is strength training. And I know you've had, you've been working out, obviously consistently for a while. How, how have your workouts changed as you've gone into perimenopause?

• 1:16:10Speaker 01

  I, I work out, it's kind of like my HRT. I work out, I give myself the workout that I need that day. Because I, some days I'm so tired that I've literally gone into a session with my trainer and gone, we're just stretching, we're stretching, we're doing some like functional movement, and that's it. So I, I really work, I, I tried, I plan on working out with weights three times a week. And sometimes those, sometimes those are heavier weights and, and less reps. And sometime, and it's funny, actually, when I'm tired, I will do, some people would think that for me, it works to do heavier weight and less reps.

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  So I'll do like, you know, a chest press of, you know, 30 pounds, sometimes I only do four to six. Because I find that when I do moderate weight and do a lot of reps, I actually get more sore. And so if I'm traveling a lot and my body's already sore, like I'll, I will still lift weights. I'll just adjust to what my body's feeling that day.

• 1:17:15Mindy Pelz?

  Do you feel guilty if you're like, I'm, like, I'm, I'm gonna do an amazing tough workout? And then you wake up and you're like, I don't feel like doing this amazingly tough workout.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  No, I don't.

• 1:17:25Mindy Pelz?

  Excellent.

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  I'm so over it. I don't because I just can't do it. Because I also know what doing it will make me feel horrible. And I already feel horrible. So like, no, I don't because I don't have the capacity for it. And I think that's what, I mean, I guess as we get older,

• 1:17:47Speaker 01

  that's the first thing that we have to accept. I don't have the capacity for this. And where I, in the past, like, you know what I mean? Like, in the past, I've always been like, I can do it, I can do it, I can, you know? And yeah, I was able to, but now I just, I can't. And, and that's okay. It's just a part of aging. It is, it's a part of aging. And that's, and we can throw all the things at ourselves, which trust me, I do, to try to prolong, you know, the, how great I feel. But part of prolonging how great I feel is also understanding that I don't need to do it all. So, yeah.

• 1:18:25Mindy Pelz?

  Are you, are you scared of, of your body looking old?

• 1:18:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:30Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, no, I think it's a, like, yeah.

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, especially in the, the world that I.

• 1:18:36Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, the world you live in. They have a higher mark for you.

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I've, I don't, I, they do, and it's, it's so messed up.

• 1:18:44Mindy Pelz?

  We don't like our celebrities to age.

• 1:18:45Speaker 01

  No, and I, we were just talking about this the other day, some friends of mine. Because I'm like, I wish people, I can't stand when celebrities are like, oh, I haven't had anything done to my face. I haven't had a facelift. And I'm like, yes, you have. Like, just come out and say, I look great because I had the money to go in and get a facelift. Because I think other women that are your age, if that's what you're doing. All of a sudden think that they're less than and that there's something wrong with them and that they don't look like that.

• 1:19:10Mindy Pelz?

  That's it.

• 1:19:10Speaker 01

  Just, I mean, trust me, if I have things done, eventually, I might. And I'm not opposed to it. I have not, I haven't put anything in my face. I don't do botox, I don't do filler. But I do take care of myself and eventually, maybe one day down the road, if I do have something done, trust me, I'll be the first one to tell you that I haven't done. Because I just don't want people feeling bad about themselves.

• 1:19:31Mindy Pelz?

  I love that.

• 1:19:32Speaker 01

  It's ridiculous.

• 1:19:33Mindy Pelz?

  And that's exactly what they do. And this is my big thing in social media land, is that we put this like, oh, you do X, Y, and Z, and you can look like me. But you don't actually know behind the scenes that they've done about 10 other things that you haven't done.

• 1:19:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:19:49Mindy Pelz?

  And so then you start to measure yourself to their highlight reel. So, yeah, thank you for that. I think that's such super helpful.

• 1:19:55Speaker 01

  Even down to, you know, talking about the things that I do. I know, you know, I went into Next Health and did TPE and I do Ebo. These things cost money. They're not cheap. And so when I talk about these things, I'm very aware that like, yes, these things have helped me, but not everybody has the access to this.

• 1:20:11Mindy Pelz?

  That's right.

• 1:20:12Speaker 01

  So, you know, even with, even with health, I'm very aware of that. And I also, but I also, I want to be honest about what I'm doing and what's helping. So, yeah, it's a, it's a fine line. But, um, yeah, it's, I'm, go ahead.

• 1:20:27Mindy Pelz?

  Congruency. If you, if you decide to do something and you say it, now you're congruent with yourself and the confidence will come out.

• 1:20:32Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 1:20:33Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, we have to finish on this because this one's really fun, too. A lot of people are asking about sleep. Talk to us about how you, because LeAnn's like in all these different time zones, but I just want to say that she was on The Voice in Australia and so, and then at the same time, she was on The Voice in England. And so, we were looking at what she was going to do to be able to adapt to that time change. And she found these Retimer glasses. And I was like, and they look, I'm not going to lie, they look hysterical. And I was like, you're going to wear those on the plane?

• 1:21:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, they now have a new, they now have a new version of them, but they were like these massive glasses that covered my whole face. And everybody on the plane was like, what the hell is she doing? Um, yeah, I mean, it's circadian rhythm.

• 1:21:20Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:21Speaker 01

  Look, I'll be really honest, there were times I had to just drug myself to sleep because I knew that if I, if I could get the sleep that I needed, then I could allow my body to adjust. So it's not like, I love when people are like, oh, it's just so easy to like, adjust with these glasses. And I'm like, no, that was one part of the deal. But, you know, I had to, I had, I had medicine with me when I needed to take it to be able to sleep. So there's, it's not just like, it's, it's not just all the like biohacking stuff.

• 1:21:52Mindy Pelz?

  You haven't gotten up on, so they're like, they're like glasses that like put blue light, they shine blue light in. You go look up Retimer glasses and then picture LeAnn in them.

• 1:22:03Speaker 01

  I know, they're, the old ones are massive. I also, there's some new ones that I, they're called AYO that I've found that are supposed to be, because I was looking at ways to raise my dopamine in the morning. And, uh, this, um, these glasses, the wavelength of, of light is supposed to be better at raising dopamine. And the Retimer glasses were better for adjusting to like, to different time zones. So, um, yeah, it was very interesting to find. So I use my, my AYO glasses every morning when I get up. It's like the first thing I do for 20 minutes and it's super helpful. Yeah.

• 1:22:43Mindy Pelz?

  I gotta check that out. I love that.

• 1:22:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like it a lot.

• 1:22:46Mindy Pelz?

  Awesome. Well, you're amazing and thank you. This is, what you guys actually just witnessed is pretty much a weekly conversation.

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:52Mindy Pelz?

  This is how we talk. You're like, hey, I just found this thing.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  You asked me something earlier about, I was thinking, what do I do when I get depressed? And I was like, God, I haven't been depressed in a while, but the first thing that I do is box you and say, Mindy, I'm depressed. What do I do today?

• 1:23:07Mindy Pelz?

  We had a thing about, I mean, this is why I really wanted her to show you the toolbox because it's big and it's vast. And so when she would hit a wall, she would say, I'm doing all the things. And so I'm like, oh, well, here's a few more things. And I think that's the real amazing part because what I've witnessed in LeAnn using all these little micro tools is that she's going deeper and deeper into menopause, but her symptoms are becoming more and more stable. And she knows how to pull herself out. So like, I just saw somebody put on here, what, you know, to Veronica asked what the content in the book has done, how does it shape the changes that you have made? And I think what you all will see, especially in that part two, is that if like LeAnn just

• 1:23:52Mindy Pelz?

  said, if I'm depressed, I got these glasses, I'll put them on in the morning. If I know I need more carbs because I, I'm depressed, that's another depression one, I'm going to eat more carbs. So having some kind of toolbox is pivotal.

• 1:24:07Speaker 01

  Sometimes comfort is what you need.

• 1:24:10Mindy Pelz?

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:24:11Speaker 01

  I mean, really, and you know, sometimes, I, I don't know why, but the last like year and a half is the first time I've ever started binge watching shows. I never watched TV. And so I'll sit and binge watch a show and my husband will be like, you need to get off the couch. I'm like, no, I don't. I'm not getting off the couch today. I'm sitting right here and I'm watching 10 episodes of Criminal Minds, like whatever it is. So, um, sometimes, yeah, it's just, sometimes you need comfort.

• 1:24:35Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. So people can go binge watch 911 Nashville.

• 1:24:39Speaker 01

  Do it.

• 1:24:40Mindy Pelz?

  That's her new show.

• 1:24:41Speaker 01

  Do it. Yes.

• 1:24:43Mindy Pelz?

  Well, thank you and thank you to everybody. You know, I just, I think, you know, my heart aligns with LeAnn in the sense that we're just want to show up authentically. We want to gather women together and we want us all to be cheering each other on. And I've said this to you before, LeAnn, like, you know, in the position you're in, there are so many people who would make them feel themselves better then. And you're like down in, you're down in the walk of day with us all, doing it with us. So I just, I really appreciate that.

• 1:25:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love it. Anytime, anytime.

• 1:25:15Mindy Pelz?

  Thank you. And thank you, LeAnn. Thank you, everyone.

• 1:25:18Speaker 01

  Thank you, guys. I love you. Bye, guys.

• 1:25:21Mindy Pelz?

  I love you.