Align With Your PURPOSE + Manifest EFFORTLESSLY w/ Human Design (You are UNIQUE!) | Jenna Zoe

Today we dive deep into the world of self-discovery and unlocking your true potential. Our special guest, Jenna Zoe, is a world-leading expert in Human Design and the creator of the My Human Design app. She has taken this complex science and made it accessible for millions worldwide, emphasizing self-acceptance and embracing one's unique gifts. Jenna Zoe is the world-leading expert in Human Design and creator of the My Human Design app. Since discovering it 10 years ago, she has turned a complicated science into something accessible and easy to implement, so that you can actually use it to change your life. She presents it through a lens of acceptance which has resonated with millions around the globe and turned it into a mainstream obsession. Her main goal is to help people truly understand who they are and how they function, so that they can spend their energy emphasizing their unique gifts and talents, instead of trying to be how they’ve been conditioned to be. In this episode you will learn,The concept of Human Design, its distinction from astrology, and its practical application in manifesting your dreams. How learning your Human Design can help individuals who consume self-help advice without seeing results. The significance of energy types in Human Design and how they influence our lives. How understanding your Human Design contributes to self-acceptance and personal growth. How Human Design plays a pivotal role in improving personal and professional relationships. For more information go to www.lewishowes.com/1519For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes on Radical Self Love & Acceptance:Jason Derulo – https://link.chtbl.com/1460-podKaramo Brown – https://link.chtbl.com/1457-podPokimane – https://link.chtbl.com/1443-pod Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:01Lewis Howes?

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• 1:10Speaker 01

  If you haven't liked who you've become along the way of getting to what you want, then that's never going to be a happy result, right? You can't get to joy if you don't pave it along the way with feeling like you love being who you are.

• 1:24Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 1:48Lewis Howes?

  You and your message around human design has been blowing up over the last few years. More and more people are searching for human design, are studying it, and are learning about how to use it to manifest more, and really how to step in their most authentic selves, so that they're not stressed and overwhelmed with life, but they're living in flow and abundance. And so I'm curious... We talked about this a little bit already off camera, but how did human design first come to you? And what started to unlock in your life once you started to be in alignment with your human design?

• 2:27Speaker 01

  I love this question so much because in my twenties, I was like the quintessential spiritual searcher. And I was endlessly, just any type of information I could get my hands on, I just wanted to know all about it, right? And I really, I think from a soul level, you know, we resonate with things when we hear like, you co-create with the universe or you trust there's something bigger than you that's carrying you. We know these things to be true. And so I think the beginning of my spiritual journey was really about kind of connecting to that. And then I got to a place where I was like, okay, I know these things, but now my life still isn't moving forward. I haven't created my own capabilities, my own power, my own passions. Like I'm not actualizing stuff, right?

• 3:09Lewis Howes?

  So you had an awareness, okay, yes, the universe, if I work with it, then good things are gonna happen. You had this kind of faith or beliefs, but you weren't seeing it happen for you yet.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  Yes. And so I was reading all the books and I was listening to all the information and I was like searching for that for myself. Like I wanted to feel like I'm in alignment, I'm living my purpose. But I didn't know how. And so it was only when I met somebody who did my human design chart on me. And it was, it blew me away because it was so practical. And so you do this and you'll get this. And this is how your energy works. And this is why a morning routine doesn't work for you. And you are built to be inconsistent. And so don't beat yourself up trying to be something you're not, right? And so the whole ethos of human design is like, actually, you already came here knowing how to be your real self. And ever since then, we've absorbed all this conditioning

• 4:04Speaker 01

  that has told us, do this and you'll be loved. Do more of this and you'll be successful. But there isn't a one size fits all. And so what human design does is it gives you your customized kind of practical manual on how you get to being your real self again. And a lot of it is actually going back to how you were before, rather than becoming something.

• 4:25Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 4:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:27Lewis Howes?

  Because we, we're all conditioned by parents, society, friends, culture on how we should be doing things. And we learn certain specific skills or knowledge in our journey of life.

• 4:41Lewis Howes?

  And what I'm hearing you say is we need to kind of unlearn or deconstruct these these systems that we've been built. Some of them may work for people, but others don't work for us. And we all have a specific human design.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:54Lewis Howes?

  How do we know? How many human designs are there? And how do we know which one is ours?

• 5:02Speaker 01

  Okay, so it's not a personality test. So it's not that you're kind of answering questions about yourself. If I can get a little bit nerdy on you. Um, it's actually a very scientifically measured thing. Because um, there are these things called neutrinos that are subatomic particles. Okay, and we're swimming in them right now. There's a hundred billion of them passing through your thumb right now. Every second, okay? And all of those neutrinos are generated by the planets in our solar system. Seventy percent of them come from the sun. And these neutrinos are controlled by what's called a weak force. So instead of like a light particle would bounce off this wall. The neutrinos pass through matter, okay? And they all have energy to them.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  And so the day, minute, time, place you're born. There's a specific neutrino stream that you pop into. And that place has a certain energy.

• 5:55Lewis Howes?

  Fifth.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  And imagine it's like the first breath you take is that it's kind of like seeding you with this energy.

• 6:00Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  And so if you believe that you come here, your soul comes here with a certain way that it wants to be and a certain plan. Then that energy that you're seeded with is the exact energy that it chooses to kind of pop in through. And so it's like your design never changes. It's always the same manual. You're the same true essence underneath it. And you have been since the beginning. And if we can measure the neutrino stream at the time you were born. Then we can tell you about who you came here to be.

• 6:28Lewis Howes?

  Neutrino, is that what it's called? What, I mean, how do we know what the neutrino frequency is of every second?

• 6:38Lewis Howes?

  For eternity.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  Similar to astrology, you can do it by measuring the position that the planets are in, because they would hit certain different angles. So instead of saying, for example, Jupiter is in Taurus, like how you say with astrology, you say Jupiter is at the specific angle compared to the Earth. And through this angle, it comes with a certain flavor of neutrino, for example. So, and it's actually overlaid with the I-ching. Do you ever hear of a guy called Confucius?

• 7:03Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  So he spoke about sixty-four different energies that are available to us as human beings.

• 7:08Lewis Howes?

  Sixty-four energies. Why sixty-four? Do we know?

• 7:12Speaker 01

  That's what they identified as different groups of energies. Actually, not even energies, but groups of energies that are present to the human experience.

• 7:20Lewis Howes?

  Ah, okay.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  And so what happens is the sixty-four different general angles that the planets come through are flavored with those sixty-four different energies as well. I told you, it gets a little bit nerdy, but that's how they measure it. And the guy who formulated human design basically understood how all of these different systems kind of come together. So the Shakra system, the astrology, the I-ching, and the Kabbalistic tree of life, and how they all overlay to kind of show you who it came here to be.

• 7:47Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. Okay, so we can figure out, what is it called, neutron?

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Neutrinos.

• 7:52Lewis Howes?

  Neutrinos.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 7:54Lewis Howes?

  So we, with all this measuring of astrology and some different things, we can figure out the neutrinos based on them essentially the minute we were born. And so based on the moment we were born, and is it also where we were born?

• 8:08Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 8:09Lewis Howes?

  We can then figure out what our human design is. Is that correct? And so we don't get to choose our human design. It's based on when we were born and where we were born. Does it matter where in the world you're born as well? Or is it more the day and time?

• 8:25Speaker 01

  The specific time and place and day.

• 8:28Lewis Howes?

  Why does the place matter if I was born in, you know, a city in Ohio versus London? Of the same minute that day?

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Because the angle that you're on on Earth that's receiving the planet is slightly different. And sometimes the smallest thing can make a huge difference.

• 8:43Lewis Howes?

  Really? So we could be born at the same minute, but we wouldn't have the same design?

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Not necessarily, no. We could have certain things that are the same about our design, but maybe your digestion will be different than mine. And that can change by one minute, for example.

• 8:57Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  So we need the exact same.

• 8:59Lewis Howes?

  So this is like based on astrology, based on science? What would you say this is based on?

• 9:05Speaker 01

  It's like, I think it's an art and a science. I'm, my background is I grew up with, I was such a nerd at school. I was like such a science geek. And so this kind of really was my, I guess, entry into spirituality. And that's why it resonated with me so much because it's so measurable. So it kind of primarily is a science, but it's the science of who you came here to be. So then that makes it inherently spiritual, right?

• 9:26Lewis Howes?

  So what is it, you know, we're in LA right now and this is the land of tarot reading, psychics, astrology, numerology, and I'm assuming many other things. What is the difference between human design versus all those other practices that teach you about who you are and what you should be doing in your life?

• 9:45Speaker 01

  I think for me, the biggest difference is that human design gives you the manual of, it's never going to tell you're going to have three kids, for example. You're going to move next year or any of that kind of stuff. It's like your path is already laid out by your soul. Let's say you have a certain specific karma that you come here to achieve in this specific life. Right? And for you, this is almost like you treat this like a machinery. You treat your system like a machine. You do it without thinking about it. You get the mind out of the way. And that's one of the big core tenets of human design is that the mind is actually very stupid at how we run our lives. The mind is cleverer being used at looking at the outside world, becoming a genius at something because you let this thing iterate itself.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  You let it run on its intuition. You let it run on the digestion it's supposed to digest. You let it run in the right exact environment it's meant to be in. And then your mind is free to become what we currently think is unusual levels of genius in people. Like everybody has the Elon Musk capacity in them, right? But we're just wasting our brain energy on the wrong things. And so human design gives you like, just do this and do it every single day and iterate it. And then see the results happen in your life.

• 10:57Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. So it's giving you the roadmap of your own personality, body, human type. It's giving you the roadmap of saying. Where maybe if you've been told your entire life to live a specific way.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:12Lewis Howes?

  And you're not seeing the results.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:15Lewis Howes?

  If this would say, well, you're actually supposed to be more intuitive or living in this specific way, a different way. It's saying, okay, let me try that that way that I'm supposed to be living in and see what unlocks from there.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 11:26Lewis Howes?

  What would you say is the biggest thing that blocks us from achieving and manifesting more?

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Um, I think almost believing that we are all the same as other people. And then you see someone else's success and you go, I want that. And then you try to get there the same way that they've gotten there.

• 11:45Lewis Howes?

  Oh.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  I actually think that, and I was saying this to you, like the, the whole thing about the mind being in charge is so um, limiting because there isn't enough information that you could absorb to guarantee that you would get to where you want to go. Right? If you're going to let the mind control and you're going to let the mind come up with all its theories, it's, it's the best spin doctor we have, right? The mind will, will outdo you every time, right? Whereas actually with these sorts of things, you kind of understand this co-creation with the universe is that the universe has mystical ineffable forces that we also know are at play. This grounds them because it says they come through to you through your body. So for you, for example, like the things that light you up are not random. That's the universe literally speaking to you through that enjoyment.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  But the mind goes, it can't be as simple as just doing what you enjoy. Or the mind goes, no, because you should feel guilty for sometimes not doing things you don't want just to benefit other people, right? So the mind is getting in the way, whereas actually when you understand the mechanisms of how your body is guiding you and directing you, then your mind is free to become a genius.

• 12:51Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 12:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. So.

• 12:53Lewis Howes?

  So we're blocking ourselves by going against what our, our human nature, our human design is telling us we should be going into.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 13:00Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. So what is, uh, what is my human design? What is like kind of the main tenets that my design says about me and how I should be living my life for optimal results?

• 13:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. So there's many different categories of your design. The sort of top line one is what's called your energy type.

• 13:19Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  Now, your energy type is not your personality. It's literally how you are supposed to use your energy to get the most bang out of your buck from that energy that you spend, right? So, different people have different ways that they're supposed to use their energy. And we can kind of know this, like, there's certain people who they're really full on, and then they need to disappear. And then they're really, they're at 200%, and then they disappear.

• 13:38Lewis Howes?

  More introverted individuals that want to be by themselves, or whatever.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Right, exactly. So, um...

• 13:44Lewis Howes?

  Well, how many energy types are there?

• 13:45Speaker 01

  There's five.

• 13:45Lewis Howes?

  Okay. What are those?

• 13:47Speaker 01

  So, you have generators, manifestors, manifesting generators, projectors, and reflectors.

• 13:56Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  And again, you being a generator doesn't mean that you're similar to other people who are generators.

• 14:03Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 14:03Lewis Howes?

  Why not?

• 14:04Speaker 01

  Because you're not similar personality-wise to them. You just use your energy. Your mechanism is the same, right? So, imagine there's eight billion people on the planet. There's not five different personalities, right?

• 14:15Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, right.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  That's very limiting.

• 14:17Lewis Howes?

  So, I'm a generator? Is that what I am?

• 14:18Speaker 01

  You're a generator, yes.

• 14:19Lewis Howes?

  Okay. And what's the percentage of the world that is generators?

• 14:23Speaker 01

  It's about 27%.

• 14:26Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Generators.

• 14:27Lewis Howes?

  And then manifestors?

• 14:29Speaker 01

  Eight percent of the population.

• 14:31Lewis Howes?

  Eight percent?

• 14:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:32Lewis Howes?

  And then manifesting generators?

• 14:34Speaker 01

  They're about 35% of the population. They're growing.

• 14:37Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  Projectors are about 17%.

• 14:41Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  And reflectors are 1%.

• 14:43Lewis Howes?

  1% reflectors?

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're very rare.

• 14:46Lewis Howes?

  So, generator and manifesting generators are the most common.

• 14:49Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 14:49Lewis Howes?

  So, what is, if I'm a generator, based on when I was born and where I was born,

• 14:54Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 14:55Lewis Howes?

  What does it say about me that I should be doing to optimize for greatest flow, greatest impact, greatest fulfillment, and greatest opportunity?

• 15:05Speaker 01

  So, the word, think about the word generator, okay? When you are doing something you love, what happens is you generate energy for everybody else without trying to give it to them, without going out of your way. It spills out of you, and you lift other people up. So, you literally alchemize lower energy into higher energy.

• 15:25Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  But in order to do that, you have to be doing something that lights you up.

• 15:29Lewis Howes?

  Right. And if I'm not doing something that lights me up, then what happens?

• 15:32Speaker 01

  You could be helping someone move house, but net-net, you haven't lifted them up. And so as a generator, generators are here to lift the energy of the world. They literally are the fuel of the world, okay, on good energy.

• 15:44Lewis Howes?

  If you're enjoying what you're doing.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  But you have to be enjoying what you're doing.

• 15:47Lewis Howes?

  If not, then it's like, it's not gonna do.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  You go through the motions, but then you're tired and that person hasn't actually benefited from it.

• 15:53Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  So as a kid, you probably got like well done for going to see grandma when you didn't want to, right?

• 16:00Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  Or like good boy for doing something that was a sacrifice or a duty. And that programs especially generators of feeling like it can't be as good as just doing my joy, right? But the reframe on this is like, there's a reason why your joy is different from someone else's. So why are you feeling guilty that you get the, what you think is the better deal, right? If everyone did what they thought was a better deal, everyone would be better together, right? And imagine what a great functioning society you would have if we trusted that allocation of resources from the universe, right? That's telling you, I'm gonna design your joy for you.

• 16:32Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  And I want you to follow that. Now, shut the mind up, let it do its thing and follow you, which is ruled by your gut. Generators are ruled by their gut, okay? Now the gut speaks to you in black and white. It says, yes, I'm into it or no, I'm not. It doesn't know gray areas.

• 16:48Lewis Howes?

  It's either a hell yes or a hell no.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  It's either a hell yes or a hell no.

• 16:52Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. And so it's almost kind of like, okay, if I'm using that framework, is this a hundred percent hell yes? Ten out of ten decision cites me for everything about it. Doesn't mean there's not gonna be challenges probably.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 17:04Lewis Howes?

  And things to overcome.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 17:05Lewis Howes?

  But I'm excited about the opportunity.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 17:08Lewis Howes?

  That's when I should say yes to it.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:10Lewis Howes?

  But if it's like a five out of a ten, probably don't even have anything to do with that, it sounds like, right? It's like, or, or try to pull back on as many of those things as possible.

• 17:17Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 17:18Lewis Howes?

  Maybe I have some responsibilities or obligations I gotta fulfill.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:22Lewis Howes?

  But try to make commitments based down this a hundred percent all in.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 17:26Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  And so wherever you're at, you know, you go at the pace of life and you go, what's doable? Cause obviously we've gotten ourselves to places where we can't just all of a sudden, you know, only do those things.

• 17:36Lewis Howes?

  Stop everything.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, but the core tenet is for generators, like can you trust that the joy that you have and that you cultivate inside of you? That actually, no matter what your job title is, what you're really doing in terms of exchanging energy with other human beings is you are lifting other people.

• 17:52Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  And the thing is, you don't even get to see that because you don't see how someone is before they came to you and then how they are when you leave them. So you don't necessarily see that alchemy in motion, but that's really what you're doing.

• 18:02Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  So you make other people more productive. When you're lit up, generators are very open or welcoming auras. So they make people want to be around them. They're very kind of like magnetic and juicy. And you want to hug them or you want to be around them. You want to be in their energy. They make you more productive. They make you more inspired. That's what a generator does, right? But of course, there's so few generators that are, I guess, giving themselves the permission to just mostly do things that stoke their inner fire. And it's very visceral for you. You know what I mean? Like, if you imagine watching yourself from above, when someone says, do you want to do this? Can you imagine your body literally would go like this? Or it kind of constrains.

• 18:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I feel it. I feel my whole body.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 18:42Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I'll either open up or I'll shut down. But a lot of us tend to go against that intuition or our gut. Is the mind the thing that blocks us the most? Or is the mind the thing that can also drive us the most?

• 18:58Speaker 01

  It depends what you mean. So your mind can drive you in creative projects. It can drive you in inspiration. It can drive you in coming up with logic and systems and strategies. And that's what I mean, the outside world, like what you create, what you do, all this kind of thing. When it comes to, Louis, what do you want to do tonight? The mind is not so skilled at that.

• 19:21Lewis Howes?

  So what I'm hearing, what I think I'm hearing you say is, for me, as a energy type of a generator, I should never make a decision based on my mind. I should always make a decision based on how my body is feeling about this thing. Is that correct?

• 19:37Speaker 01

  Yes. So it's actually kind of double for you because your authority, which is the second category in human design, is that your intuition is gut as well. So you're called, you're sacral authority.

• 19:49Lewis Howes?

  It's like double intuition?

• 19:50Speaker 01

  You're like double gut intuition.

• 19:52Lewis Howes?

  I don't know what that means.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  So.

• 19:53Lewis Howes?

  Acting like this is a big deal, but I'm like.

• 19:55Speaker 01

  Well, different people have different ways they're meant to listen to their intuition. So some people, it's emotional intuition. Some people, it's gut intuition. Some people, it's your wants. Some people, it's your instincts. In kind of common lexicon, we all think that's the same thing. But it actually shows up different for different people. Yes.

• 20:11Lewis Howes?

  So what am I then?

• 20:11Speaker 01

  So you're sacral gut intuition.

• 20:13Lewis Howes?

  Sacral.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. So think about that sacrum. It's like all about desire. Do I want it? Yes or no? So.

• 20:19Lewis Howes?

  So I see, I really need to be listening to this feeling.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  Yes. You're like, this excites me or no, it doesn't. And what's interesting, because the gut is black and white, open-ended questions are not great for you. So if I say to you, where do you want to go tonight for dinner? If I'm like, do you want sushi or Mexican? Easier.

• 20:36Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  Because you narrow it down. So actually, for you, for your decision-making in your life, it's also easier if you narrow down your choices whenever you're conflicted.

• 20:44Lewis Howes?

  It's very black and white. It's very black and white, which can be, which could seem extreme. And I have this conversation with, uh, my partner, Matt, my business partner here, where I'm like, we need to shut this entire thing down from like some projects, or we need to go all in on this thing and stop everything else right now. It's kind of like extreme sometimes. And he's like, slow it down a little bit. Like, let's, let's take some time on this. Let's organize our thoughts. I'm like, no, I'm done with this. Or like, I'm all in.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:13Lewis Howes?

  And so it's, it sounds like, yes, lean on that, but also make sure that I'm taking care of responsibilities and not just starting and stopping all these things all at once.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  Well, he also might be emotional intuition, which means he needs to take his time.

• 21:28Lewis Howes?

  He does. And he needs to analyze everything that could go wrong.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 21:32Lewis Howes?

  And all like the potential, you know, challenges and things like that. I'm just like, no, it's gonna work. Let's make it work.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  Right. But look how beautiful, if you both understand each other's manual, then you're not thinking that one of you is doing it wrong and you honor each other's process.

• 21:45Lewis Howes?

  That's interesting.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  And then you know when something is aligned is when both of you arrive at the same conclusion. So it works really well with teams too, because you know, okay, I know you're not trying to hold me back by going through all the fears first. I know you're doing your own process so that you figure out your role in this, and I'm doing my way. And then let's kind of like let the chips fall where they may, instead of being like, we have to have this specific process that everyone at work uses. It's like, okay, each one kind of combines in a different way. So it's an interesting, it's a very interesting way for optimizing how you work with people.

• 22:16Lewis Howes?

  That's interesting. Um, how do we, I mean, there's a lot of people that are into self-help, personal growth, spirituality, that seem to be struggling still. That seem to be suffering, struggling, constantly getting into bad projects, bad relationships. Why do you think so many people suffer or struggle who are also in personal development? And they haven't figured out how to get through to the next level?

• 22:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. I love this question because I think it's so, um, It's so pertinent for this time. I think we've gone through such an awakening of spirituality. But I guess I feel like a lot of people that I speak to, it's almost like they need to feel like I'm taking you into account and then doing your personal development based on what is present in you, right? Rather than kind of funneling us into these things where, I don't know, I felt like more of a failure when I was trying to do all the spiritual stuff and feeling like I wasn't moving my life forward, right? When I found this thing of like, do this and do this and don't just take me on a word, but see if your life actually changes, and it did.

• 23:25Speaker 01

  And then from seeing so many testimonials of people just like using this practical manual, that's when I think it empowers you because you feel like you're capable of doing something. Rather than just like, here's my thing, trust the universe, go and do your thing and think abundantly. How am I not thinking abundantly? How does abundant thinking look on me? How do I use my specific gifts, right? How do I, if I want to be a nurse, what's the best kind of nurse for me to be based on who I am and what I bring to the table, right? Because you might be a nurse where you're going to be more in your power and more capable and more valued by being nurturing and really like connecting to that part of you. Or you might be the nurse who's very good at like the ops and the organization and the whatever, right? So what's nice about this is like it makes you feel more in touch with your personal power because you know what to bring,

• 24:11Speaker 01

  you know what to lead with. And that subconsciously is what people will value you for the most, even if they don't know how. We're all reading each other's energy without knowing what we're doing, right? But we'll be like, this person is someone who's capable, who I trust, who seems good at what they do. We gravitate towards people like that, right? And so this is like, everybody is equally genius and powerful, but you have to flex it. And these are things that you're going to flex. You're going to get more energy out of, you're going to get more bang for your buck out of. Rather than the best nurses are this, the best moms are this.

• 24:38Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. There's what, eight billion people in the world right now? And there's probably a lot of them, a majority of them that will never know their human design, right? They're never going to go through the assessment. And I guess it's not an assessment, but the, what do you call it? Like when they-

• 24:52Speaker 01

  Running a chart?

• 24:52Lewis Howes?

  Running a chart. They're probably, probably most people are never going to do that in the world. So for those that don't know their own human design.

• 25:03Lewis Howes?

  How do they fully tap into this? Really this wisdom, this knowledge, this power? In order to live a more fulfilling, meaningful life? And if they don't know their human design, are they just doomed forever? Or do they trust their gut on things better? Like, how do they know where they're supposed to go? What the roadmap is for them for creating a meaningful, fulfilling life?

• 25:29Speaker 01

  I think the number one thing is that we have these very homogenized ideas of the good ways to be, the cool ways to be, the very few things that we've been taught are gonna lead us to be successful or to be lovable, right? So people who we call geniuses are usually like artistically creative, or they're really good at some kind of like tech thing, or they're good at athletic prowess, right?

• 25:51Lewis Howes?

  They're gifted in some way, yeah.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  Those three things, okay? No one is ever gonna raise someone and say, "The amount of care that you have for people is your USP, and that's gonna make you crazy insanely successful," right? We're not brought up that way, right? In a similar way, you're not brought up to say, "Okay, well, as a mom, if you're very good at strategizing, then that's gonna make you the best mom that you can be," right? But if you can think about those random little things that you maybe think are uncool, or that might not lead you to anything, and you can back those things, I think you can just do that and not know anything about your design, and just take a bet on those like unusual little pockets that aren't everywhere.

• 26:36Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, these are the underappreciated gifts that a lot of people have. You know, when I started this show, I remember thinking to myself, "I have no idea how to like run a podcast or do the, you know, to do this thing. It's not what I was skilled to do." But I've always been fascinated by people and just curious, and always ask these weird, random questions. And I was like, "Well, maybe there's something from this." So I just tapped into asking weird, random questions, and people seemed to like it. But I was listening to that thing within me, like, "Okay, here's like a hidden gift that I don't think is valuable, but let's see where it goes." By going into that, it worked out for me. So what I'm hearing you say is like...

• 27:18Lewis Howes?

  Try to find the hidden gifts within you that maybe don't seem celebrated

• 27:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:22Lewis Howes?

  by others all the time.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  And it's risky. I say that lightly, but it's a huge risk because you, your mind again is gonna say, no, but how are you ever gonna support yourself on that? How are you ever gonna make money? No one's gonna think you're cool. Like, what are you doing? And to be honest with you,

• 27:40Speaker 01

  the fact that we even think there are certain guarantees is an illusion anyway to life.

• 27:43Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  So really, this is actually working with reality that everything is an unknown, right? But it's really hard and it's the daily practice of human design is like, again, like I said, your, your design doesn't change, but every single day to listen to your gut on every single thing, it's hard and you have to do it in new pockets of your life, right? And you have to relearn it and relearn it and get to another level with it and then refine. So this mind thing of like, are you sure? Are you not crazy? Like, when I first sat my parents down and told them I was closing my food business to read Human Design, I mean, I literally thought my highest aspiration would be like they wheel me out on the lottery with a wig and I read the, the lucky numbers. It wasn't cool. It wasn't a thing. It was, this is eight, nine years ago now, right?

• 28:28Speaker 01

  So I took a chance on that random thing that I didn't know where it was gonna lead me, right? And it's not the, the career choice that is gonna take us far. It's how much we show up and be our most kind of actualized, present, powerful, capable, liking who we are along the way. Like, that's the thing that's the magic in people, right? It doesn't actually matter what you're doing. You can make a fortune out of gardening if you do it the right way. If you get a zing with it, you know?

• 28:54Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely. Yeah, I think I saw one of your videos on Instagram. You're talking about like really leaning into your passion in terms of like being passionate about what you're doing and being excited about it because that unlocks new pathways, new doors for you when you're living into that. When we're doing something that I feel like we're skilled at, but we don't fully fall in love with. We're kind of in resistance still. Like, okay, yes, I have this talent over here, but my intuition is not telling me that it's what I want to do with my time. You know, or maybe, like, I used to be really good at baseball for a long time, but then when I turned seventeen, I just didn't have the the energy for it anymore. I just didn't care enough about it to keep pursuing it. And I started to pursue track and field.

• 29:38Lewis Howes?

  And great things came out of that decision to leave something I had talent in to pursue something that I was more excited about.

• 29:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:46Lewis Howes?

  And I think it's learning how to trust, like, the timing of this as well, when to do this. What about in relationships, you know? How have you learned about what is a good relationship, whether it be in business partnerships or career or an intimacy based on human design?

• 30:03Speaker 01

  Okay, so people always ask about, like, are generators compatible with this or that or whatever? Now, from a human design perspective, if you have chemistry with somebody, you're compatible. You just need to learn the other person. So that there is no me trying to change you or us trying to be on the same page or me misunderstanding the very innocent reasons why you do something that I'm thinking you're sitting down on that chair for a different motivation than you would be sitting down on that chair, right? So anybody's compatible with anybody if you're drawn to that person. For the time, for the exact amount of time, you still are drawn to that person, right? But if you can learn someone else's manual, for example, the manifesting generators are very fast people, right?

• 30:46Speaker 01

  And so if you're with, if you're a projector who's with a manifesting generator to honor each other's different speeds, that already gets rid of so much friction, right? Or if you understand that somebody, for example, my mom. When I did a reading for my mom for the first time and I saw her main gift, everybody has one gift in their life that's their main thing they came here to do. When I saw her main gift was about kind of almost being a little bit abrasive and abrupt in order to shake people out of things. So my mom would be the person who, like, She'll see someone wheeling a baby down the street and she's like, put a hat on that baby. You know, and I always used to think that was like rude and inappropriate, but in a way, if you're doing it with the right consciousness, that's obviously another thing, like the way that you animate it. There's a purpose for every single role that people play in society, right?

• 31:31Speaker 01

  And so when you know the reason why someone is the way they are, you're not judging them anymore. You're not thinking that they're wrong. You're not trying to fit them in to be more like you. And what happens with our differences, if we know them, then I can actually vicariously enjoy yours through you when I'm not threatened by them. When I don't think that I have to be more like you or you have to be more like me and I'm trying to think who's better or worse. So I'm like, isn't that so beautiful that your main gift is, you know, whatever it is, well, I know what yours are.

• 31:57Lewis Howes?

  What is my main gift?

• 31:58Speaker 01

  So your main gift is number thirty-six and that's turning darkness into light.

• 32:03Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  So a lot of the stuff that you're here to do is to pull out from the places that people don't necessarily look at or talk about and to bring them into awareness, to alchemize things that are maybe more negative into more positive things. And then your secondary one, and they play nicely together, is really about bonding with people and breaking through barriers. Which I mean, you clearly do. I've known you for an hour and you're very good at it, right? So those two things, I know that I don't have to be them because you're really good at them and I'm good at other things.

• 32:33Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  And then you actually just like, literally you thrive off seeing other people and their gifts. It takes so much fun. You know, so in relationships and in business partnerships, you can do the same thing. We're like, it's so cool how you do that. And yet there's no part of me that thinks I have to be the same way.

• 32:47Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  So the harmony in that is like life-changing.

• 32:52Lewis Howes?

  I mean, you were essentially learning and studying human design for the last, what, eight or nine years, right? You're also in a relationship during that time at some point. So how did you, I think you were in a relationship for four years, you said. So how did you know when you're in the relationship, when it was, there was alignment with the relationship versus, all right, there's not alignment? Or did you miss something in the relationship that you weren't following your own kind of wisdom, your own intuition?

• 33:21Speaker 01

  Okay, so my intuition is emotional. Which means that we have to make decisions based on how things make us feel, like happy or sad, literally that, that black and white, right? So either we're up here or we're down here. And fifty percent of the population is emotional, which is crazy.

• 33:38Lewis Howes?

  So what's your energy type?

• 33:39Speaker 01

  I'm a projector.

• 33:40Lewis Howes?

  Projector?

• 33:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:41Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 33:41Speaker 01

  But my emotional intuition, what it says is, again, you don't need to understand with your mind why your intuition is telling you what it's telling you. That's where we trip up. Intuition, you just have to listen to it.

• 33:54Lewis Howes?

  Just trust it.

• 33:55Speaker 01

  Just trust it.

• 33:56Lewis Howes?

  Don't try to understand it.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  Don't try to understand it. So what our mind does, it comes in secondary and goes, these are the reasons why, and this is the logic, and this was this, and this is that, and it wasn't aligned, and he was this and that, da, da, da, da. That's all noise. So.

• 34:09Lewis Howes?

  That's why you hear a lot of women that say, he looked great on paper.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:13Lewis Howes?

  He had all the things that, and my parents thought this was awesome, the school he went to, where he worked, like, everything seemed to line up, but I just didn't have something inside of me that wanted to come in, right?

• 34:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:25Lewis Howes?

  That's what a lot of women say, right?

• 34:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's making decisions with the mind rather than with the body.

• 34:29Lewis Howes?

  Why do so many people make the decisions with the mind rather than the body?

• 34:33Speaker 01

  Well, to get a little bit historical on you, if you think about where humanity has been for the last couple hundred years, right? It has been a lot of top-down sort of control. And a population is easier to convince you all to go to war and to, you know, do certain things. If this is the logic, we all have to agree on the logic. There's one objective reality, let's all get on the same page, rather than there is no objective reality. We're all just here bumping up against each other, doing our random things. That's a nightmare, right? For a society.

• 35:08Lewis Howes?

  There's gotta be some order and some organization somewhere, right?

• 35:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, but when you think about it, then the people who are in government are supposed to be the people who are very good at coming up with common laws. They're very good people who are being balanced, who are being fair, who come up with how people interact and come together, but giving people their freedom, so. When you're trying to suppress a culture with a religious, um, homogenized belief, then there is this thing that we all, that is logic that gets handed down to us, that you have to do what makes sense to other people. And that's how you get your love and belonging from the tribe, is by justifying that what you're doing is for the same reasons that everyone else would wanna do the same things.

• 35:46Lewis Howes?

  So how can women specifically make better decisions in choosing the right male partner for them? If they wanna choose a male partner? How can women choose better in relationships?

• 35:59Speaker 01

  This is gonna sound a little crazy, but one of the other big conditionings that we have is that we have to make, um, the right decision that we ensure is gonna make our relationship last forever, and that's a good relationship. What you actually want from that is to feel the most amount of love, right? You wanna be in love and in the energy of love every single day of your life. So from that perspective, whether that changes 20 times or once, doesn't really matter. So for me, that relationship was correct for as long as it lasted. Cause it grew the amount of love I had in my life.

• 36:34Lewis Howes?

  Oh, that's correct.

• 36:34Speaker 01

  Until my emotions started telling me otherwise.

• 36:39Lewis Howes?

  Oh.

• 36:40Speaker 01

  And am I better off because of that relationship? Am I more open-hearted because of that relationship? Am I more, um, happy with who I am? Yes, right? So that was not a terrible relationship. That was life showing me that was a perfect amount for it to last.

• 36:57Lewis Howes?

  Oh, okay.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  So a big thing to get rid of is I have to know how my future's gonna look in order for me to be happy. Actually, you just need to be happy today. And then your tomorrow will start off better, and that will compound. And then it doesn't matter about the form that it takes, cause the inside is gonna be more actualized, more evolved, more in love, more open-hearted, more all the things that we actually want, right?

• 37:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  So it comes from kind of letting go of this guarantee to micromanage how the life is gonna unfold for you to think of how it needs to look for you to be happy, and to do the happiness today, and then to trust that that's what activates the rest of the work, the 90% of the unseen forces kind of coming together to make things happen the way that

• 37:39Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 37:40Speaker 01

  that we can't engineer, like opportunities, synchronicities, meeting people out of nowhere, stuff that we couldn't even do if we were the best minds in the planet, right?

• 37:49Lewis Howes?

  You know, there is some, there's something to choosing to be positive and happy and grateful for certain elements of your life and trying to maximize that. Because when we maximize that energy, synchronicities unfold, right? These unseen forces for good show up in our life. Or they, they block us from something bad essentially happening, right? Or they, they move us in a different direction. But why do you think there are certain people who seem to have it all, but are still choosing to be unhappy and not choosing to be grateful for what they have? They're complaining or feeling entitled for what they don't have. Why do you think that happens?

• 38:33Speaker 01

  Um, I think that's one of those things where there's many different causes for one symptom. Right? So on the outside, this person you're saying is ungrateful or unhappy. The number one reason I would say is that if you haven't liked who you've become along the way of getting to what you want, then that's never going to be a happy result, right? You can't get to joy if you don't pave it along the way with feeling like you love being who you are. And I, you've probably been in situations like this in your life before where maybe things are hitting the fan, but you still love the fact that you have your own back through it. And there's this incredible piece of like, okay, well, we're on this adventure of life. The soul wants to experience everything.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Let's lean into this, knowing that I think I'm going to make sure that I'm okay, right? And that weirdly transforms even the most negative experiences into these like fascinations. And I think if you don't know how to do that, then that's already a big, that really takes away from your happiness. The second thing is also that, again, the brain is addicted to finding something to focus on, right? And it's, and it could be being focused on creativity, but when it's turned inwards, it's going to look for problems. It's going to look for unhappiness. That's what's going to happen when you let it run amok in an area that it's not supposed to run amok in. And the third one is, I think, is an addiction that we're being programmed with from the outside conditioning of. You know, you should find reasons to be unhappy.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  Or you grew up around people who were that way. And you need to decondition from that automatic pattern. That, again, like you were saying in the beginning with your parents that condition you. Even if they weren't doing it on purpose, it's passed down until you have to be the one that says, you know what, let me not just decide to be rid of it, but let me practice being rid of it today. How would I move through my day when I catch this thing come in and I go, uh, uh, uh, uh, what else would I do instead? And you might feel like an imposter the first time you do it because it's not going to feel natural.

• 40:29Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  But even if you can just flex it slightly, the universe goes, oh, look who's trying to be more than self, let me go help this person out.

• 40:37Lewis Howes?

  What was the thing you had to decondition over the last 10 years? That was running your life the most.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  I think the emotional piece is a really big piece. And this is, like I said to you, 50% of the population are what's called emotional beings. So you're what's called non-emotional, meaning when you're by yourself, you're cool, calm and collected. It's only when the world comes to you, or when people come to you, or a situation comes to you, that you feel a certain way. When you're emotional, you can wake up and be happy and feel on top of the world. Same exact situation the next day and you feel totally different. And for me, I was really brought up when I was in a low mood. What's wrong with you? Why are you upset? Smile, don't be a sport brat. You know, I'm English, right? So don't be a sport brat.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  And for me, it was a real judgment about having negative emotions. And I still struggle with it today. I'm not rid of it by any stretch of the imagination. I just am more aware of it, so I have levity around when I'm doing it to myself.

• 41:39Lewis Howes?

  Got you. So you're emotional, I'm non-emotional.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  You're non-emotional.

• 41:43Lewis Howes?

  So explain that again, someone who's emotional versus non-emotional.

• 41:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you don't generate your own emotions. You are like a mirror and a sponge to the world around you. So this, actually, when we talk about people who are empaths, we really are talking about, in a strict version, we're talking about non-emotionals. Because you're able to feel what I'm feeling. Because I have my own emotional roller coaster going on, I'm actually not able to viscerally tap into your emotions.

• 42:08Lewis Howes?

  As an emotional person.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  As an emotional person.

• 42:10Lewis Howes?

  Not emotional person, I can understand your emotions.

• 42:13Speaker 01

  You can feel my emotions.

• 42:14Lewis Howes?

  That resonates. I feel like I can feel everyone's energy.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 42:18Lewis Howes?

  And something that I saw on your Instagram, when you were talking about empaths, you said, "We shouldn't be absorbing, we should be observing."

• 42:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 42:26Lewis Howes?

  That's something you said recently. "Don't absorb others' emotions, observe."

• 42:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 42:31Lewis Howes?

  And I think that's interesting because empaths take on the weight of anyone around them.

• 42:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:37Lewis Howes?

  And they feel it and they feel emotionally drained where they have no energy if they absorb it.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:42Lewis Howes?

  So it's learning to notice someone's energy and still be empathetic, but don't absorb it, right? Observe.

• 42:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 42:49Lewis Howes?

  Connect, but don't let it penetrate your, your energy center. Don't let it penetrate your soul to where you're now in that state of being as well.

• 42:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 42:57Lewis Howes?

  That's a hard thing for a lot of people who are in that non-emotional empath state of being.

• 43:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. And it's, it's an interesting one to understand that, you know, when you're not absorbing my stuff, you would be able to show me what I'm feeling because I'm so mired in it. I have no idea what's going on some of the time. So you would magnify and be able to show me what's going on with me if you're not then taking it on. So let's say, for example, I am an emotional. I wake up and let's say I'm happy today. I'm two out of 10 happy, okay?

• 43:31Lewis Howes?

  10 out of 10 happy, you said?

• 43:32Speaker 01

  Let's say, for example, I'm two.

• 43:33Lewis Howes?

  Oh, two out of 10, you're not happy.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  Because it goes on, it goes on a scale, right? So let's say one day I'm on a two out of 10. I walk in the room and I see you six out of 10 happy. I'm like, "You look happy today." And you've become happy because you felt what I've done and you magnified it, right? And that's beautiful. But I can see it more clearly through you than I can through me.

• 43:50Lewis Howes?

  Got it.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  But that also works on the other side too, where a lot of non-emotionals get called the most emotional people. Because if I walk in the room two out of 10 sad.

• 43:59Lewis Howes?

  Two is a, one is the hot sad?

• 44:01Speaker 01

  One is less, like, let's say two out of 10.

• 44:02Lewis Howes?

  10 is the highest, got you.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  So let's say I'm two out of 10 sad that day, okay? I walk in the room, you all of a sudden get in a bad mood. And I'm like, "What's wrong with you? Why are you in a bad mood?" And you don't know because you, it wasn't there before I walked in, right? You're just able to reflect to me what I'm not even aware of.

• 44:20Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  If we have that languaging, then I can be like, "Thank you so much for showing me what was going on with me today." And instead of going, "What's wrong with you?" Right?

• 44:28Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  Because you guys are the, are the open, right? You're the open emotional. And so you feel whatever else is going on in the world.

• 44:34Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  And we're just like playing our own songs, completely unaware.

• 44:40Lewis Howes?

  I wonder what my fiance is. She's, I can't remember if she's a manifestor. I think she's a nonspecific manifestor. I don't know if that's a thing, but maybe it's manifestor generator.

• 44:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:50Lewis Howes?

  But I don't, but she's positive 90% of the time. Like she is in a positive, joyful, grateful state consistently. It's very rare for her to be low, low energy.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:03Lewis Howes?

  Which really is nice for me. Cause I think I've always in the past been in relationships where I didn't know what I was gonna get. And it was harder for me because I would absorb energy. And I would shield it and I would allow it to drain me. Now I've learned how to observe differently and just accept people for where they're at and be there for them in a different way as opposed to taking on their pain and sorrow and trying to like fix it. That was a wound that I had to learn how to heal. But being in a relationship with someone who is truly grateful for life, that truly loves her life is a joy. It is like a gift that I hope everyone can experience at some point because

• 45:47Lewis Howes?

  it's, it's, it's challenging to be with someone that isn't a happy person.

• 45:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:53Lewis Howes?

  Consistently. It just is. And it's hard to be with someone for years who you don't know how to help them become happier.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:00Lewis Howes?

  And that's something that I experienced because I just, I chose based on a wound and nothing wrong with them, but just felt like it was always harder because they weren't happy.

• 46:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:09Lewis Howes?

  And so I hope everyone can get to that state. You just unlock more when you, when you are a hap, generally happier person. But I feel like a lot of people struggle with happiness. A lot of people suffer and struggle with feeling worthy of happiness, of learning how to believe they're a good person, of believing they're enough. Why do you think we struggle so much with being happy? And how can we learn to? Love ourselves deeper so that we are happier.

• 46:41Speaker 01

  I love that question. So I think there's two different kinds of levels of happiness. So for example, I could be in a low mood today, but still be so fulfilled and almost loving watching that process of waking up, just being more like meh today. But that meh state can mean like, still fine, you know what I mean? So there's two, there's almost like one that's like the bottom of the ocean. That's like your core fulfillment, joy to be alive, like grateful, like, oh my God, this is like, this is an adventure, you know what I mean? Like, let me just observe what's going on today and it's all interesting and all beautiful and so amazing, right? That level of happiness, I think, really comes from being who you're supposed to be, you know?

• 47:21Speaker 01

  And being happy with who you are and almost feeling like you're doing what brings you the self-esteem, the fulfillment, the giving and receiving in the way that you're supposed to, right? I think when you give to the world in a way that you feel like there is an abundance more coming from it, it changes your whole worldview because you're like, there's so much more where that came from. I'm so happy to serve. I love giving to people. I love seeing how I get received when I give to people. It kind of is like the genie wishing for one wish and then you get tons more back, right? When you're tapped into like, this is, I'm in my magic, so then I don't just know that I'm special from here, but I feel that I'm special every single day because I know that I have something I've cultivated and given energy to

• 48:01Speaker 01

  that I really feel like is me. It's like my home frequency. I can come back to my base of what my value add is in this world, right? So I think that's number one is like, there's so much deeper levels of happiness that are available to you if you can break away from constantly telling yourself you have to be like everybody else, constantly trying to get the love and belonging, the kind of short-term cookies. You can kind of forego them and put the, put the sort of time in to take the risk to get it from the sort of longer-term value, giving people value rather than what can I get out of life so quickly?

• 48:32Lewis Howes?

  Those cookies are so good. These cookies are so good in a moment. Just, oh man, I love those cookies. But there's so much, there's so much greater benefit when you can delay, or at least not every day have to go for the cookies. I'm not saying never enjoy it, but um, you know, as a metaphor, just not going for the pleasure every single day.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:52Lewis Howes?

  Really going for a state of long-term happiness and fulfillment.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. Comes down to making yourself proud of who you are, I think.

• 49:00Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  And that feeling is not replaceable by any other thing, I don't think.

• 49:04Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  I think when you're like, I really am happy, almost like you're an apparent being like, you know what, that was a hard decision, but really, I'm impressed with you. I think that is the ultimate, if you want to be happy, you make yourself proud of you.

• 49:18Lewis Howes?

  A hundred percent. When was the time in the last decade you were the least proud of you? And at your lowest energy state?

• 49:25Speaker 01

  I think the end of that, the ending of that relationship was very difficult for me because another thing that I was really conditioned with, my mom is Indian, and my parents have been married forever. And one of the things I really was conditioned with is that it's, if a relationship goes well, you've done well. Like, it's your job as a woman to make a good relationship. And so you fail, you're the failure, if you don't make it work.

• 49:52Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  That was a big one for me. So that was a really, really hard time of being like, am I, am I defected as a woman? Am I not desirable enough? Did I not do enough? Was I not more malleable? Should I have, you know, been more flexible or rolled down more? You know, whatever, all those different stories that you can create. I think that was a really big one for me. But I don't think I would have undone that conditioning if I hadn't gone through that experience.

• 50:19Lewis Howes?

  Wow. So you felt like you were a failure with the relationship ending?

• 50:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. I felt like it was on me. I think a lot of women go through that too.

• 50:28Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 50:28Speaker 01

  I think they feel responsible for making a relationship go well.

• 50:32Lewis Howes?

  Where do you, I mean, there's something to be said for, you know, people who are in relationships, relationships for decades that are like, listen, we had some hard seasons, some hard years. And we could have easily just said, you know what, this isn't working, or some bad stuff happened and we, we should have left. But we decided to stay together and we're so grateful 10, 20, 30 years later that we did. Because every relationship has some seasons.

• 50:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:01Lewis Howes?

  But then there's also, like, I see that point of view, but then I'm also like, okay, if your body is rejecting something and it's telling you this is not working and I'm giving it my all and I'm trying and we're going to therapy and you're really trying to commit to make it work, but it's, you're rejecting it and it's just a disconnect. I also see the benefit and the value and consciously uncoupling.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:22Lewis Howes?

  And saying, listen, we gotta go, this isn't working.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:25Lewis Howes?

  Let's take some time and maybe we come back together in the future.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:28Lewis Howes?

  And I don't think there's a right or wrong either way.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 51:31Lewis Howes?

  I don't think it's like you're a failure if you didn't go through all the hard times and go for 30, 40 years and make it out beautiful, holding hands as like 90 year olds on the other side. Cause you could also be together for a long time and be miserable.

• 51:43Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 51:44Lewis Howes?

  You know, it's like, and there's a lot of probably Indian families that just stay together, even though they don't fully love and have a fullness of life.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 51:53Lewis Howes?

  Right? I'm sure you see both.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  Completely. And that's the thing, and I love that you've touched on this because that's the thing about human design is that we're always trying to look for, always tough it out or leave the second you're ready, but actually everyone's on a different path.

• 52:06Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  So that advice isn't going to work for everybody. And, you know, you're kind of, I guess, well predisposed to seeing this because you're very open in your chart I had a look at. You're very open in your mind. So it's always about kind of not having your fixed opinion on things. It's always about saying, yeah, I could see that maybe, sure. I don't know, could be wrong, could be right. Let's see. Right? And that's one of your gifts. And I think that's one of the things is that we're always trying to find the right way to do life and then wronging everybody else who's not fitting into that directive. And say, instead of saying, we are all on radically different journeys. Journeys no one else can even ever even come close to understanding. So us using our, again, using our mental energy on trying to find some kind of system that makes us all be on the same thing

• 52:51Speaker 01

  or same level of understanding or same goal or it's just a moot exercise, you know?

• 52:57Lewis Howes?

  And I think that the challenge or the opportunity we all get to face is are we going to live our life trying to please everyone else based on our decisions or lack of decisions? Or feeling guilty and bad and wrong for decisions we make that others don't approve of?

• 53:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:13Lewis Howes?

  Because it's really hard to make decisions if we're thinking, well, I don't want people to be upset at me.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:19Lewis Howes?

  And I did that for a long time. I stayed in relationships too long that I shouldn't have. I got out of stuff that I probably shouldn't have because I was worried about the opinions of others.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:29Lewis Howes?

  So you felt like you were in a low part at the end of that relationship because you felt like a failure.

• 53:33Speaker 01

  I felt like I wasn't being my best self.

• 53:36Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 53:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I felt like it wasn't bringing out the best in me and therefore I shamed myself for that. Because it's not good to feel like you're not happy with how you're being, right?

• 53:43Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 53:43Speaker 01

  And, um, and also, yeah, I really had to contend with like, if I end this, then am I stupid? Am I making a really bad decision? Because again, like you were saying, he's great on paper. We're good enough together. My whole family loves him. He's successful. He's this, he's that.

• 54:00Lewis Howes?

  He's nice to me. He's the whatever it is. Yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  All that stuff, you know?

• 54:04Lewis Howes?

  But what was in telling you like this isn't in alignment? Or this isn't the right thing for me right now? What was telling you?

• 54:12Lewis Howes?

  Was it your intuition? Was it your gut? Was it just like you didn't feel like you were in your purpose or your joy? How were you able to know that, okay, I'd given this enough time? And the season is ready to move on to the next thing?

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think I can come up with a lot of logical reasons for you. But I think, I think ultimately if I watched myself in net, net, my emotional state was more negative than positive.

• 54:35Lewis Howes?

  In the relationship.

• 54:36Speaker 01

  Towards the end. So then that kind of tells you, well, again, it's like the body knows, right? Like it just, it's so tangible. We just need to watch ourselves as if from above and say, does this person look like a thriving? Does it look like it's soothing you or not? And you don't need to be able to explain it away. On a more, I guess, on a more logical level.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  I went in with certain roles that I played. That were, again, if we're always trying to be who we came here to be. They weren't ultimately part of who I was, right?

• 55:08Lewis Howes?

  They weren't serving you.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 55:09Lewis Howes?

  Or your future you, your highest you.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 55:12Lewis Howes?

  So you went in playing certain roles in a relationship and then you realize this isn't sustainable, this isn't me. So it was kind of like your responsibility.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:21Lewis Howes?

  For being those roles.

• 55:22Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 55:22Lewis Howes?

  Cause you were almost.

• 55:23Speaker 01

  Completely.

• 55:23Lewis Howes?

  Inauthentic in a sense, right?

• 55:25Speaker 01

  And those are my cookies. Look how good of a girlfriend I am. Look how supportive I am. Look. You know what I mean? The cookies are sometimes a little hidden like that, right? It's like, look how much I'm helping this person be successful. That's so much more easy than trying to be successful on my own, right?

• 55:40Lewis Howes?

  So from, I mean, I don't know anything about the relationship, but if I was in that and I'd be like, wow, okay, this person, this is who this person is. They're showing up in this way. And now they're trying to be something different.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:49Lewis Howes?

  It might be confusing.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  Very.

• 55:51Lewis Howes?

  For the guy.

• 55:52Speaker 01

  Oh, no, very.

• 55:53Lewis Howes?

  So it's.

• 55:53Speaker 01

  Beyond.

• 55:54Lewis Howes?

  Right. He's probably like, wait a minute, you were super supportive. And now something is shifting and now you're trying to be this other thing. That's not, you know. Who are you?

• 56:02Speaker 01

  Oh, I played such a good trophy wife and I was good at it. Like you said, like with the previous sport, like I was good at it, right? So you can't blame, you have to, I think ultimate self-responsibility gives you ultimate power.

• 56:14Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  Of your own life. You absolutely, everything is for your own movie. So it's always I, I, I, I, I. I played the good role. I played the thing and therefore I got out of it what I put in.

• 56:24Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 56:24Speaker 01

  It doesn't matter about who the character is that I was playing with. I would have played that character on.

• 56:29Lewis Howes?

  For anyone until you learn the lesson.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 56:31Lewis Howes?

  That this wasn't, I mean, maybe it's like, okay, I can be this sometimes, but this is not the role I'm supposed to be playing in my life right now. Is that what it sounds like? This is interesting. Um, but here's, here's the other interesting thing. You'd been studying human design for, I guess, three to five years by that point already. So what were you?

• 56:52Lewis Howes?

  Not listening to with your own study and practice of human design.

• 56:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 56:57Lewis Howes?

  What was your human design telling you to do that you were directly going against?

• 57:02Speaker 01

  This is really interesting. I think the emotional piece again, actually with us, because I was so suppressing my own, my joy and my sadness.

• 57:11Lewis Howes?

  You were suppressing it?

• 57:12Speaker 01

  Suppressing.

• 57:13Lewis Howes?

  Why were you suppressing joy?

• 57:14Speaker 01

  Because I think England is a little different than America. You know, you can't be too, there were certain situations where I felt like, and therefore was told, but that's because I felt like it, right? That's why it actualized in the outside world. You can't just, you can't just drink tea at midnight and just be dancing on the, on the table by yourself. Like, you know, have some alcohol, fit in, like, sit down and be cool and have conversations. And, you know, I, I felt this like want to be kind of like, you know, unboundedly joyful for no reason that I suppressed. And I also suppressed tears, right?

• 57:49Lewis Howes?

  Cause you're, cause friends or society in England was like, oh, don't be too happy, like chill out.

• 57:55Speaker 01

  Crazy, yeah.

• 57:55Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, relax a little bit.

• 57:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:56Lewis Howes?

  And when you were emotional or crying, they were like, what are you crying for? You know, they couldn't take it either way, the extremes.

• 58:03Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:03Lewis Howes?

  Kind of keep it in the middle of this, not surfacy, but kind of not fully authentic.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:09Lewis Howes?

  Way of being, is what I'm hearing you say.

• 58:10Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 58:11Lewis Howes?

  At least the people you're with or the, the places you're around.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:14Lewis Howes?

  So you were suppressing both emotions.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:17Lewis Howes?

  All to enjoy.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  To be more palatable.

• 58:19Lewis Howes?

  To be more accepted or fit in. Interesting.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  And now.

• 58:23Lewis Howes?

  To try to belong.

• 58:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:24Lewis Howes?

  But you weren't being fully authentic or vulnerable.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:27Lewis Howes?

  And so you weren't actually belonging at all. Cause you weren't belonging to yourself.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  And if you, if you take it in this frame, like you're asking me, the emotion is your motor center as an emotional being, right? When you're an emotional being, emotions is your power center. Comes from your solar plexus, right?

• 58:46Lewis Howes?

  And you took it away.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  So when you take that away, firstly, you have less energy. Second of all, you can't make decisions, the correct decisions in your life. And you're suppressing all of your life force from directing your life forwards. If you imagine, okay, there was already certain things that were supposed to be in place to move my life forward for me from the universe, just like there is for all of us. You're literally holding them back from just, instead of just letting them, unleashing them, right? Letting your destiny move through you, right? Cause you're just holding yourself back. Cause you're saying, This is not a good way to be. I don't want to be this way. I don't want to be an emotional being. Okay, so you're constricting all of that life force inside of you instead of letting it out.

• 59:24Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 59:24Speaker 01

  So then you stay small.

• 59:26Lewis Howes?

  And you don't use your voice?

• 59:29Speaker 01

  At all.

• 59:30Lewis Howes?

  You didn't feel like you used your voice at all?

• 59:33Speaker 01

  Not until the end, and then I think I'd suppressed it so much that it came out completely, um, how do you put this? Um, disproportionate. You know, when you keep so many things inside?

• 59:43Lewis Howes?

  Extreme.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, you, you say some, well, not even extreme, but you say, I'm not happy. And someone's like, what do you mean you're not happy? It's come out of nowhere, like.

• 59:50Lewis Howes?

  You seemed happy the last few years, yeah.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  You know, and that's unfair to do on a person.

• 59:54Lewis Howes?

  Uh huh, yeah.

• 59:56Speaker 01

  Instead of communicate along the way of, I feel sad today and I don't know why, and it's nothing to do with you, but I just need my space to be sad.

• 1:00:03Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  That's what emotional things are doing. There's no rhyme or reason sometimes when you feel really teary. Or you feel like, I have a different emotional way to other people. Different sizes, different behaviors, different patterns of emotions. Mine is kind of sad and happy, sad and happy. Like, I feel teary and then I want to dance down the street.

• 1:00:22Lewis Howes?

  Within like a moment?

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  Um, it's kind of day to day, I'd say.

• 1:00:26Lewis Howes?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  And then other people, you know, when they are really low, and these are people who often get diagnosed as being, you know, um, manic or bipolar or whatever, there's just some people who have so much creative emotional power in them. Think about people who've moved the world through a song about a breakup, right? When they're in that songwriting process, they need to remove themselves and be away from people and mire in that sadness so fully because it creates something inside them. But instead of they're like, no, put on a brave face and go out there and be with people and hide that, it's saving, it's basically muffling all of that creative power inside them, right?

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  Low and high emotions is what makes a human experience worth living. If everything was just neutral, there'd be no point in being here, right? So the emotional color life. But we also need to be mindful of how much we allow other people like you to understand it's not about you if I'm sad today. And if I come to you and I say, I'm really sad today, can I cry? And then you hold my hand, that makes us bond more. And you know it's not about you, right? And so it creates deeper intimacy when people are okay with their emotions, right? And sharing them.

• 1:01:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, a hundred percent. What do you think are the keys to manifesting?

• 1:01:42Speaker 01

  I think there's a couple. Firstly, did you manifest it? Or did the universe give you the sign of what to want? Because that's what it was trying to send you or get you to go towards in the first place, right? Is it your voice or is it the universe's voice inside you?

• 1:01:58Lewis Howes?

  How do you know?

• 1:01:59Speaker 01

  Well, yeah.

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  That's the number one thing. And I think the second thing about manifesting is there's a difference between manifesting a chocolate cake, okay, versus manifesting your purpose, your destiny, your soulmates, your life partners. Things that are like, really your things that were always supposed to be yours and always supposed to come to you. I think it's almost egotistical to say you manifested them. Or maybe there just needs to be different words. Did you put the amount of energy into the right things and grow your consciousness to a level that you were able to then get those things? If that's what you want to call manifesting those things. And in which case, it's okay to want anything, including money, if it comes from your soul. And you almost can't explain why you want that thing. If you're going after something you think you want

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  because it's going to give you something else, then that's a short circuit because you might get it. But then, like you said, it might not stay or you might not be fulfilled during it. So I think you can manifest anything, but you may as well manifest those things that your soul really wants, rather than the things that you think you should be manifesting or from an ego place.

• 1:03:03Lewis Howes?

  How do we know when it's a soul desire versus an ego desire that we want to manifest something?

• 1:03:10Speaker 01

  I think an ego desire is, I want it because it's going to give me something else, like a secondary thing. Or because I think I will like myself more or my parents will like me more when I want it or I'll be more impressive to others, like you were saying about making other people happy. That kind of stuff. In which case, if you really want to make your parents happy, and that's a true desire from inside, and you really feel this yearning from within that you don't even know why you want your parents to be happy, but maybe that was your karma of your life, then just ask for that. Don't short circuit it by asking for the thing that you think is necessary for you to get that end result. Just ask for the end result and let the universe fill in the details, you know? But I think when it comes from your soul, you can't explain why you want it. You just, it's just this drive of like, and you know, I tell people,

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  you can see in people's design, people who are motivated by money. Their soul just wants money. Or their soul just wants fame, or wants to be recognized, or wants to be seen. There's nothing inherently evil or wrong about those things. Right? Because for example, your soul might make you want money so that you move into the house that's next door to the person that you had the greatest karma to heal with. We don't know what leads to what. So it's not good to like, judge them by certain things that are good to want or bad to want. But if you want them from a true purpose, reason, it's coming from inside you and you can't explain why you want it or what you think it's gonna give you. You just know you want it.

• 1:04:30Lewis Howes?

  This has been inspiring. Human Design, the revolutionary system that shows you who you came here to be. I want you guys to make sure to get a copy of the book. Go to the app, myhumandesign.com or you can go to My Human Design on the App Store as well to learn more about your energy type, the gifts that you have and the roadmap that you should be taking in your life to live more fully, more authentically and allow flow to come into your life. Make sure you guys get a copy of this. The universe has a plan for you and Human Design is here to help you find it. So if you feel like you're not sure what's happening in your life, you feel stuck, you feel, it's not clear. This can be a great place for you to get more clear

• 1:05:14Lewis Howes?

  on your unique blueprint and how to follow the roadmap. You're also on social media yourself, Jenna Zoe on Instagram, my.humandesign on Instagram as well. And the book, myhumandesign.com/book. This is a question I ask everyone towards the end of my interviews. It's called the three truths. So imagine a hypothetical scenario. It's the last day on earth, many years away. You get to live as long as you want to live. And you get to create and manifest all of the things that your Human Design tells you you're supposed to do. But for whatever reason, on this last day, you have to take everything with you. The book, the app, the content, everything you've ever said or shared is gone from this world. But you get to leave behind

• 1:05:59Lewis Howes?

  three lessons to the world. Three things you know to be true. And this is all we have to remember you by, are these three truths. What would that be for you?

• 1:06:08Speaker 01

  Believe in every natural inclination inside you. You don't understand all those random things about you that you think are unacceptable, uncool.

• 1:06:22Speaker 01

  Nothing is in you by accident, so take a chance on those random, small, uncool things. Stretch yourself a little bit every day to make yourself more proud of yourself.

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  Nothing will give you the self-esteem than feeling like you cultivated more of yourself and shared it with people every day.

• 1:06:44Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful. That's beautiful.

• 1:06:48Lewis Howes?

  Before I ask the final question, Jenna, I want to acknowledge you for your courage to take on this journey for your life. And because you've taken on this journey for your life, you're able to help and inspire and impact so many more people than lacking the courage, than staying stuck or staying in a stagnant place in your life. You've opened yourself up to serve more, and it's really beautiful. So I'm grateful for you for leaning into this gift of yours, to this weird uniqueness of yours inside of you, and taking the steps toward it. It's been really inspiring to learn more about you, to connect with you today, to hear about the work you're doing with Human Design and the tens of thousands of people every day who are

• 1:07:33Lewis Howes?

  tapping into the information within them through your work. So I'm really grateful for what you're doing. Before I ask the final question, is there anything else on your heart or mind that we missed that you feel like we should be talking about today? That you feel like if the audience really heard, that it would support them on a different level?

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  How much time you got? I'm kidding.

• 1:07:55Speaker 01

  One of the things I think I'm seeing a lot of recently is a lot of questioning our worth. A lot of... Sitting on our couch, trying to find our problems. Sitting on our couch, trying to feel worthy. Sitting on, I think a lot of it is that you flexing yourself out in the real world is what will give you the feedback that you are worthy. That will give you the feedback that you are not, you know, you are not your trauma. Going out and playing with matter, with the fabric of life is what changes us. You know, rather than trying to, meditation is amazing and, you know, visualizing and all those things are wonderful. But there's a true alchemy in let me, this whole thing is set up here for you

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  to dance with, right? And I think there's a real powerful thing in reframing action as push, push, push, grab, grab, grab, then just like, let me see with all this stuff. Like, what can I do with it, you know? And that's when you really learn about what you're capable of is when you see yourself be it. And that's so healing, I think.

• 1:08:58Lewis Howes?

  So not just sitting in your room, asking yourself, am I worthy? But going out and living life and experiencing it and playing with the magic of life.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so that you can see your worthiness come out of you. So you can see, oh, I actually do like how good of a person I am to this person. I actually do like seeing myself come out of this effortless gift that comes out of me. And I do see that not everyone has it. And, oh, so maybe it is there, right? Because again, if you're sitting at home, it's only through your mind that you're understanding it. You're not living it through feeling it in your cells, you know?

• 1:09:28Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  There's a difference.

• 1:09:30Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful. Final question, what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  Taking everything that is yours to begin with and turning it into an expression that you love.

• 1:09:44Lewis Howes?

  Jen, thank you so much. Appreciate you. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend. On social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward.

• 1:10:25Lewis Howes?

  And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately, that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.