Encounters x349 - True Tales of Alien Abductions & UFO Sightings from Listeners

We’re going full extraterrestrial this week and it’s not even Sabrina’s birthday. We’ve got listener stories of UFO sightings, alien abductions, missing time, and animal activity that is seriously hard to explain. We’re left with one very unsettling question: what exactly happens during those moments we can’t remember? Close encounters include: A young woman wakes up surrounded by exposed nails and discovers three mysterious figures standing over her, along with a strange mark around her wrist. A meteor shower in the Black Hills takes a terrifying turn when several friends lose hours of time and witness animals standing motionless in perfect lines along the road. A young girl watches her father disappear for more than 20 minutes, only for him to return confused and seemingly unaware that any time has passed. A family spots a giant black triangle hovering above their garage, followed by missing time, a strange trance-like experience, and a terrifying figure watching through a bedroom window. A lifelong series of strange encounters culminates in a bizarre dream, a mysterious rash, and the discovery that the man from the dream has somehow become a real-life neighbor. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan. Original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  This episode is brought to you by Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Hey, everyone. This is Jonathan Van Ness from Getting Better. You know what you believe. Maybe your faith is at the center of your life. Maybe you're still figuring it out. Maybe religion just isn't your thing. Those choices are personal, and in America, they should stay personal. That's why Americans United for Separation of Church and State is fighting for something that affects all of us. The freedom to live as yourself and believe as you choose, so long as you don't harm others. Because religious freedom isn't just about protecting your right to practice or not. And it surely isn't about having one forced government sanctioned religion. It's about protecting your right to say, this is what I believe, while your neighbor says,

• 0:44Speaker 00

  I believe something completely different. And honestly, that's the whole point. If that sounds like the kind of America you want, learn more at au.org/gettingbetter. Because your beliefs are yours, and theirs are theirs.

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• 1:52Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 1:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Beam me up.

• 1:55Corinne Vien?

  She's only been asking for her whole life.

• 1:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm begging you.

• 1:59Corinne Vien?

  She's literally wearing a shirt for you aliens.

• 2:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I literally put it on my Hinge profile. Wait, what's the prompt? Let me look at it.

• 2:07Corinne Vien?

  Can you bring us through your whole profile, actually? I would like to see it.

• 2:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I could take you through it. Well, I'll show you and then we'll just do the one prompt that I did. But I did, okay. Most irrational fear.

• 2:17Corinne Vien?

  Quicksand or anything from Final Destination. That's great. Hey, I made it. There's a picture of me.

• 2:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Last time I cried happy tears was when my three-year-old niece asked me to stay at her house forever.

• 2:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 2:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, never have I ever been abducted by aliens and I'm sad about it.

• 2:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's perfect.

• 2:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then.

• 2:33Corinne Vien?

  And I like how it's like, there's a very beautiful, but also spooky photo of you right above it, holding a.

• 2:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Most of my photos are spooky.

• 2:43Corinne Vien?

  Spooky and beautiful.

• 2:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah, that's how much I.

• 2:47Corinne Vien?

  Hello?

• 2:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Did that just make a noise? Oh, I think it accidentally went to TikTok, which is also weird.

• 2:53Corinne Vien?

  Weird.

• 2:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway, but yeah.

• 2:55Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girls, one ghost. Can you guess what our topic is today? Aliens.

• 3:02Corinne Vien?

  Aliens, UFOs, abductions.

• 3:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Last episode, Last Encounters, when we did glitches and interdimensional like time slips and stuff. There was a story that I brought up that we had read on the podcast years ago about an alien abduction where they like woke up in the midst of nails.

• 3:20Corinne Vien?

  Okay, yes. And I didn't remember it, but you were like.

• 3:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I found it.

• 3:23Corinne Vien?

  Or you're gonna reread it?

• 3:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I'm gonna start this episode with it.

• 3:26Corinne Vien?

  Great.

• 3:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So we first read it on Encounters 140 back in 2022. It's from our listener Maddie, and it's called "An Alien Abducted My Mom." Hi, little lads. My name is Maddie.

• 3:39Corinne Vien?

  I love that.

• 3:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  "Before my mom met my dad and had me, she was married, and had my two sisters. When my mom was recently divorced, after that marriage, she moved from Ann Arbor, Michigan, to Brooklyn, Missouri, which is a small town with a lake. She bought a small house on that lake and said it was wonderful. She loved living there, other than the fact that the town was a little odd. She said that along with the beautiful scenes, there was a lot of dark energy and a lot of weird people doing some weird stuff like rituals and weird sex stuff and culty shit."

• 4:10Corinne Vien?

  Oh, okay. That's not what I thought when she meant weird.

• 4:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very weird. "My mom didn't move to the house alone. She brought my sister, who at the time was probably around 16, and my other sister had moved out. So it was just the two of them, my mom and my 16-year-old sister. My sister, like me, sleepwalks and has weird sleeping habits, like, oh, I don't know, waking up with dirt in her bed from leaving the house while sleepwalking."

• 4:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, no.

• 4:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Amongst other things. So my mom has literally had to booby trap the front door to prevent her from leaving. As all of this is going on, my mom started renovating the upstairs to turn it into a bedroom. So she had flipped all the floors, nails facing up, so that the next day she could start replacing them. And her and my sister got ready for bed. So like all the floorboards were like ripped up, nails facing upwards. My sister had a room across from my mom and their doors were open, so if my sister did start to sleepwalk, my mom would hopefully catch her in the act. Once my sister started to fall asleep, she felt weird, but she couldn't put a finger on it, so she went to bed. And then she woke up at 2:45 a.m. because she was freezing. She rolled over and realized she was not in her bed.

• 5:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She was at the very end of the room upstairs with all of those wood boards tipped up. She looked up to see three figures talking to her, but she couldn't understand what they were saying.

• 5:32Corinne Vien?

  How do I not remember this? This is wild.

• 5:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Disappeared. Now, my sister is a very Houdini sleepwalker, but there was no possible way for her to have navigated across those boards with nails nails sticking up while sleeping.

• 5:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and also she's waking up and seeing three figures.

• 5:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Talking.

• 5:49Corinne Vien?

  Like someone, other people are there, not even just someone.

• 5:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The next morning, my sister went downstairs and told my mom all about the situation, and my mom felt really weird. Because my mom had slept through the whole night, not once hearing my sister leave her room or go up the creaky old stairs. So she called her best friend, who's very connected to the spiritual world and sees and understands things that most people don't. And her friend asked my mom to check her wrist to see if there were any markings on it. My mom pulled up her wrist, and there was a red mark all the way around her wrist. My mom's friend explained that it might have been an alien abduction, that sometimes aliens will distract and play with the children so they can steal their parents.

• 6:26Corinne Vien?

  Wait, what?

• 6:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jimmy Neutron? But yeah.

• 6:28Corinne Vien?

  Whoa, this is like a bait and switch. I thought the sister was getting abducted.

• 6:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe they both were.

• 6:33Corinne Vien?

  Maybe they both were, yeah.

• 6:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But they literally put Maddie.

• 6:36Corinne Vien?

  Related family members.

• 6:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They put Maddie upstairs in the wrong room.

• 6:41Corinne Vien?

  Play and nails?

• 6:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 6:42Corinne Vien?

  That doesn't feel like the right distraction.

• 6:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that wild?

• 6:45Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, I don't like that Maddie wakes up with dirt on her.

• 6:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it's Maddie's sister.

• 6:49Corinne Vien?

  Our Maddie's sister.

• 6:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maddie does sleepwalk, but we don't know about those stories.

• 6:53Corinne Vien?

  That's true. She hasn't shared them yet. I feel like we've heard that before a few times of people like waking up or just like keep trying to go back to the woods or something. It's like, what is about to abduct you?

• 7:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a very Stephen King pet cemetery.

• 7:06Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, very creepy.

• 7:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So creepy. I know, I was like, I knew so many of the details, but I forgot it and I was so glad to find it.

• 7:14Corinne Vien?

  I know. I'm actually shocked that you did.

• 7:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 7:16Corinne Vien?

  Normally we say stuff and then we can't find it.

• 7:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I spent hours. No, I spent like 20 minutes. It came to me.

• 7:22Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, I have a story called "Alien Abduction?", question mark. So I guess maybe we have to vote at the end if we think it is one.

• 7:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like most of the time when we get questions like that, it's usually a probably, most likely.

• 7:34Corinne Vien?

  If you're asking, it's like you already know.

• 7:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 7:37Corinne Vien?

  Hello, spooky ladies. My name is Anisha. Feel free to use my name. I've been a listener since 2019, and somehow I have procrastinated sending this the entire time. And this was sent in April of this year, so.

• 7:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, we're glad you finally sent it.

• 7:49Corinne Vien?

  It didn't take a beat.

• 7:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe this is when we were meant to read it, so had you sent it earlier, it wouldn't.

• 7:54Corinne Vien?

  It wouldn't have hit the same.

• 7:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 7:56Corinne Vien?

  Or the right other person listening like wouldn't have heard this.

• 8:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is for someone else.

• 8:01Corinne Vien?

  It's fate. It's destiny. Okay, well, now I feel like it's a time, because I went back and I started listening to older episodes. And for some reason, every time I started an episode, it would begin at the end with Sabrina saying to send in your stories.

• 8:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Weird. That timing too.

• 8:17Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 8:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because it's not the exact same time code every episode.

• 8:19Corinne Vien?

  No, no, no. Sometimes you talk for like another five minutes after.

• 8:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 8:23Corinne Vien?

  Interesting.

• 8:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Spooky. That is a sign.

• 8:25Corinne Vien?

  I took this as a sign to finally write it out. At the time of this story, I was in a really bad relationship. Unfortunately, I was groomed at 16 and I ended up living with a 26-year-old man, and he was just so terrible to me.

• 8:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm sorry.

• 8:38Corinne Vien?

  I'd been working three jobs, trying to pay for an apartment in Minneapolis while he was unemployed. And during this time, my grandfather offered me a bartending job at a restaurant that he managed in Deadwood, South Dakota. There is a biker rally there. It happens every year and a lot of people come through. I thought this would be a great opportunity to save up some money. At this time, I just turned 19 and I was in this stupid relationship for three years. I'm now 29 and I see how messed up the whole situation was. But back then, when I landed in South Dakota, this POS piece of shit texted me and said that he was moving and throwing away all of my stuff.

• 9:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have one message for this POS.

• 9:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, just I hope aliens never take you, or if they do.

• 9:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is probing your butthole kinds.

• 9:24Corinne Vien?

  And they drop you off a little bit too high over the ocean.

• 9:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Plunk.

• 9:30Corinne Vien?

  Splat. Sorry, did we just wish death upon a predator?

• 9:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We put a lot of intention there.

• 9:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, okay. He told me that now I have no home to come back to. Our relationship was over. And honestly, this was the biggest blessing ever. At the time, I was distraught, though, because I only had one carry on of my belongings left to my name. I guess now that I was nineteen, I was too old for him. Ick.

• 9:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so sickening.

• 9:55Corinne Vien?

  I decided to try and start a new life here and be a normal teenager for the first time. When I began working for my grandpa, I met a girl, we're gonna call her T, and she was incredible. We became best friends and we soon spent every single day together. We went on ghost tours because Deadwood is insanely haunted. We went to college parties.

• 10:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Deadwood?

• 10:13Corinne Vien?

  Deadwood.

• 10:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's gotta be haunted.

• 10:15Corinne Vien?

  And I'll send in some ghost stories too about that, but for now, let's stay on track. This is about aliens.

• 10:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 10:21Corinne Vien?

  I had never felt so free in my life. I made a ton of friends, very close friends, grew closer in my relationship with my grandfather, and began to learn who I was. One night, T and I were hanging out and we decided to go up to a place called Game Farm, and some friends came along with us. And for context, Game Farm is a cliff in the middle of the Black Hills Forest. Everything is sounds so creepy here.

• 10:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It feels like a Grimm's fairy tale town.

• 10:49Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, this is like Riverdale-esque.

• 10:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm gonna look it up, Deadwood.

• 10:54Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There is a TV show called Deadwood.

• 10:57Corinne Vien?

  Oh, well, Deadwood, South Dakota is the state. So we decided to go up this night to watch a meteor shower that was happening. We had a case of Corona, we were smoking some weed, normal teenage thananigans. It was T, myself, and a girl named Wheezy Kate, or sorry, Wheezy Katie.

• 11:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally a TV show. And this town looks like a TV show too.

• 11:18Corinne Vien?

  Does it?

• 11:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's very picturesque.

• 11:21Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 11:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like shit.

• 11:22Corinne Vien?

  So pretty, so cute.

• 11:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very cool.

• 11:26Corinne Vien?

  But yeah, that is absolutely like a soundstage. Wow. Okay, so T, myself, a girl named Wheezy Katie, and two other friends that we'll call K and S. We were all sitting on the edge of the cliff, watching the stars. And the car was running, lights off, music on for ambiance. It was Alina Baraz, and it made the shooting stars seem even more magical. While we were watching the meteor shower, we noticed one meteor started moving in a strange way. And being young and not the most intelligent, my dumb ass said, no way, that one must be getting pulled by the moon's orbit. How embarrassing. Anyway, the meteor starts zigzagging back and forth. And we didn't want to miss this cool moment, so we went and got our phones out and we started recording the said meteor, quote unquote.

• 12:11Corinne Vien?

  And that is when shit hit the fan. The second my phone camera was open, all of our phones shut off. We were then off the cliff in a matter of seconds. I remember looking around and seeing T, S, and K on my right, Wheezy Katie was on my left, and only Katie's eyes were open. She started staring at me and her mouth was wide open, like she was screaming and she had tears coming out of the corner of her eyes.

• 12:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my god.

• 12:36Corinne Vien?

  And they were moving back, almost like we were getting blown by wind. And we were all suspended, and it was like we were in this white milky like substance. It seemed like liquid, but my hair was floating around my head. It was like I jumped in a pool. It was so weird and I could see Katie's tears. So I screamed, but I didn't make a sound.

• 12:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck? They're suspended in like time and space?

• 12:59Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, this is like, this goes from zero to a hundred so fast. The only thing I could hear was the consistent low hum, like the sort of white noise around us. I blinked again and suddenly we were right back where we were on the cliff. But now it was dawn and the sun was coming up.

• 13:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hours passed.

• 13:17Corinne Vien?

  Everyone was freaked out, but Wheezy Katie, she was petrified. We loaded into the car, we started driving out of the woods. We got to a dirt road that led to the highway, and when we turned onto it, we saw something extremely unsettling. On both sides of the road, facing the road were animals.

• 13:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 13:35Corinne Vien?

  Cows, deer, rabbits, dogs, birds, all in straight lines, completely still, just on both sides of the road. They lined the road all the way up to the highways. And honestly, I don't remember much after that. I think I was in shock, but I do remember that Wheezy Katie just kind of disappeared on us after this. We went to her house, she would never answer the door. She wouldn't answer our texts or our phone calls or anything after that. Next thing I heard, she did move to Wyoming. And I am still close with the friends T, S, and K. And in fact, T, S, and I ended up moving to Arizona together a few months after this. And yeah, life just kind of moved on. But no idea what happened.

• 14:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck?

• 14:16Corinne Vien?

  Love you girls, keep being spooky baddies, see you on the other side, Anisha.

• 14:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do they all remember the same like frozen in suspension moment?

• 14:23Corinne Vien?

  I think so, but like I understand why Wheezy Katie.

• 14:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For sure.

• 14:27Corinne Vien?

  Like it sounds like Anisha and Wheezy Katie should be the ones most traumatized because they both had their eyes open, witnessing what was going on and like trying to scream. The others, it kind of sounded like they were like.

• 14:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For her to see Katie's tears.

• 14:38Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 14:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Suspended in the air.

• 14:39Corinne Vien?

  And her mouth open as if she's trying to scream. And then Anisha herself then tries to scream and nothing comes out.

• 14:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Crazy. And the animals, were they animals or were those the aliens, watching them go?

• 14:52Corinne Vien?

  The fact that they're all lined up is so creepy on both sides, just like completely still.

• 14:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The red carpet for our latest victims.

• 14:59Corinne Vien?

  And hours passed by, hours. See, this gives me proof that maybe I made the right call when I saw that UFO.

• 15:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, and you're like, do not film.

• 15:09Corinne Vien?

  And like, no one was curious about filming or like really serious about filming, except for their roommate Taylor, who works in the film industry and writes for television. And she was like, let me go get my camera. And I was like, you are fucking not getting that camera. We are being quiet and standing still.

• 15:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So wild. This is a very unsettling experience. And like, there's hours of missing memory and time, they don't know what actually happened.

• 15:33Corinne Vien?

  And like a second, and then they're all suspended, like ripped off of the cliff.

• 15:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, Anisha, you were abducted, for sure.

• 15:41Corinne Vien?

  And then you moved to Arizona, where all of the aliens are?

• 15:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're keeping track of you.

• 15:47Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god, was that your idea? Like who was I, that was implanted in your brain, I think.

• 15:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, they're like, we just need easier access to you, can you just move closer to us, please?

• 15:54Corinne Vien?

  It'd be so much easier if you were just in Arizona.

• 15:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Travel fees are so expensive these days.

• 15:57Corinne Vien?

  South Dakota is like really out of the way. Damn.

• 16:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 16:02Speaker 00

  This episode is brought to you by Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Hey, everyone, this is Jonathan Van Ness from Getting Better. You know what you believe. Maybe your faith is at the center of your life. Maybe you're still figuring it out. Maybe religion just isn't your thing. Those choices are personal, and in America, they should stay personal. That's why Americans United for Separation of Church and State is fighting for something that affects all of us. The freedom to live as yourself and believe as you choose, so long as you don't harm others. Because religious freedom isn't just about protecting your right to practice or not. And it surely isn't about having one forced government sanctioned religion.

• 16:42Speaker 00

  It's about protecting your right to say, this is what I believe, while your neighbor says, I believe something completely different. And honestly, that's the whole point. If that sounds like the kind of America you want, learn more at au.org/gettingbetter. Because your beliefs are yours, and theirs are theirs.

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• 18:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have one from my listener Liz about aliens and alien experiences after using the Gateway tapes.

• 18:11Corinne Vien?

  Oh, oh, I feel like a few people have recently asked if you've finished the Gateway tapes yet.

• 18:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I'm moving at snail pace, y'all. Okay. Liz writes, I'm a new listener and I'm on episode 324, so I'm going from new to old. And I wanted to share an experience I had a long time ago. It was post-high school, so late 90s for me. And it wasn't necessarily the exact same tapes that you're talking about with the Gateway tapes, but similar enough that it made me remember this. I've always been sensitive and attracted others that were like me. I couldn't tell you what Claire I am, but I can see things and spirits in my mind's eye.

• 18:49Corinne Vien?

  You're just Claire. That's you. You're just a girl.

• 18:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Claire. I can hear thoughts that aren't mine and I can maybe astral project. So I attracted like an electric magnet, this guy that I will call Jack, short for jackass. And he was the same as me, but with more developed spiritual skills. He was also sexy AF, an Army Ranger, tall, blonde and fit, totally my type. And he came into my work with a friend of his because his friend wanted to buy a computer from the store I worked at. Well, after much flirting and selling his friend a very high-end computer, because I was on commission, I gave this guy my number. Later, we went on a couple of double dates with my friend and his friend that bought the computer. And eventually it came out that we both had this spiritual side in common. And he told me about a book called Beyond Hypnosis.

• 19:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So in this book, you record your own voice, reading specific passages. And then when you're in a meditative state, you listen back to your own voice saying these passages.

• 19:46Corinne Vien?

  Oh, interesting.

• 19:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is similar in sense to Monroe tapes. I don't remember much else about this book because after this incident I'm about to tell you, I stopped. I still don't know if it was real or not, but it jolted me enough. And after listening to so many podcasts like yours, including yours, with other accounts of people experiencing strange things, I have a feeling it was real. So here's what I experienced. My friend that had been dating this guy's friend and I were together in the downstairs rec room of my parents' house. I still lived at home at this time, but my parents were not home. I used my cutie little micro tape recorder thing to record the words and then my friend and I settled in to listen. Next thing I know, I was literally somewhere else, far away, but it felt close to earth? Maybe because I could still feel my physical body somewhere around me.

• 20:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was in a shopping center of some sort, like a mall. And I saw a family of aliens, but obviously they weren't aliens because they were in their home world and I was technically the alien, but you get what I'm saying. To me, they seemed like aliens. These three alien beings were shopping. There were three of them and it felt like a mom, a dad, and maybe like a six to seven year old, if I'm using human height to guess. They had a light greenish hue to their skin and their fingers were similar to ours, but more rounded. Think like a suction cup, like octopus.

• 21:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 21:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Tops.

• 21:02Corinne Vien?

  It's so different.

• 21:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Almost like the little alien dudes from Toy Story. It was a shop with trinkets and the little boy went to reach for something on the shelf when he saw me and we made eye contact. The parents couldn't see me, but I'm thinking the same as here, how some people believe that children can see ghosts and maybe the young ones in other realms or planets can as well. This little kid and I both gasp immediately when we lock eyes. His hand opened, but I don't think he ever fully picked up the trinket so it didn't drop and break, but I could tell he was shocked. I was also shocked. And then all of a sudden I was back in my own body, gasping for breath, which then woke up my friend. I don't think she experienced anything during her meditation, but this was something I could not get out of my head, the making eye contact with him.

• 21:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There were other experiences I had with Jack, but eventually we broke up. He comes to me in dreams and I think he might've died because of this. And some of these dreams are pretty sexy. So I don't know, maybe I was just lonely at the time and I missed him, but these dreams were very, very vivid. Anyway, that's my experience. Thanks for all you do and thanks for entertaining me, Liz.

• 22:08Corinne Vien?

  It is so interesting because I feel like the Monroe tape or like the, it's like any of these sort of like hypnosis or meditative tapes and stuff where like you're supposed to transcend and go somewhere else. Like it does kind of connect to alien abductions where like the, one of the theories is that it's your astral self most of the time that's getting abducted.

• 22:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 22:27Corinne Vien?

  But it is so interesting to me that there's like a version of instructions where you're supposed to instruct yourself. And I'm curious if that's like what the intent is. Is it because it's like less distracting?

• 22:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, because it's also like, once you're in a meditative state, your recorded voice is supposed to be playing. So what do you do to get into the meditative state? So there's a picture, it's called Lywellens or Lizwellens Self Improvement Series, Beyond Hypnosis, A Program for Developing Your Psychic and Healing Powers by William W. Hewitt.

• 23:01Corinne Vien?

  Or maybe it's like, because it's hard to kind of get into that meditative state, that if you hear your own voice interrupt, like it stops you from...

• 23:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like ready your internal voice anyway.

• 23:11Corinne Vien?

  Your own...

• 23:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 23:12Corinne Vien?

  Thoughts can't take over.

• 23:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We might have to read that book, although based on that, I don't know that I would want to.

• 23:18Corinne Vien?

  I know, there's a lot of...

• 23:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like Gateway I like better. I feel safe.

• 23:21Corinne Vien?

  With your little...

• 23:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Even though I shouldn't, because someone was like...

• 23:23Corinne Vien?

  In our beats.

• 23:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, someone was like, what if someone else programmed these and you're not listening to the right lines?

• 23:29Corinne Vien?

  I know, that, that's a spooky fear. I'm going to try hypnobirthing this time.

• 23:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, what's that?

• 23:34Corinne Vien?

  Which sounds like this big intense thing. And then I was like, oh shit, I need to start practicing. It's just breathe, it's like a, almost like a yoga breathing technique, but I think I'm going to put in the headphones and like have someone walk me. Have someone on the internet walk me through it.

• 23:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I support that.

• 23:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Maybe I'll do the Gateway tapes during labor, just to fully leave my body.

• 23:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Leave my body.

• 23:53Corinne Vien?

  I'm not even here. It's like giving birth back in the 50s. It was there, not me.

• 23:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not me.

• 23:59Corinne Vien?

  Uh, okay. I have a date night UFO story.

• 24:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's my dream date night.

• 24:04Corinne Vien?

  That's why your hinge profile is set up the way that it is.

• 24:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, one guy was like, for our first date, you want to get abducted by aliens? And I said, if you actually have that possibility, that will be the best date of my life.

• 24:16Corinne Vien?

  He is the alien.

• 24:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would also accept that.

• 24:19Corinne Vien?

  What was that, like 80s or 90s movie, like my babysitter's a vampire or something like that?

• 24:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mom's Got a Date with a Vampire.

• 24:26Corinne Vien?

  Mom's Got a Date with a Vampire.

• 24:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm sure there was also the babysitter vampire.

• 24:29Corinne Vien?

  There's still like a million things like that, but it reminds me of a title like that. Like My Date with an Alien. Okay. Hi ladies, my name, hopefully in 2026, my name is Maddie, feel free to use my name. I have a short and sweet story about the time that my boyfriend and I saw a UFO while we were out on a date night.

• 24:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh.

• 24:46Corinne Vien?

  It was during the summer of either 2020 or 2021. We lived in lower mainland of British Columbia, Canada. And at the time, we heard that there was supposed to be a very visible meteor shower that night.

• 24:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very similar to your first story.

• 24:59Corinne Vien?

  I didn't mean to pick a bunch of meteor stuff, but here we are.

• 25:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe it's because at the time of this recording, that meteor struck off the coast of Massachusetts and like...

• 25:07Corinne Vien?

  But I picked these like a few weeks before the meteor.

• 25:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You predicted it.

• 25:11Corinne Vien?

  I predicted, actually, have you seen?

• 25:14Corinne Vien?

  Okay. So I know I've brought up Noah Khan's new album 17 times since it came out, but one of his songs, he says he hopes a tornado hits Logan Airport. And people are like, oh my God, look at what he did. It wasn't a tornado, but it was damn close. A meteor almost hit Logan. I'm like, that's actually really funny, like to think of people manifesting things through their songs. Like enough people are singing a lyric that...

• 25:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That it happens.

• 25:38Corinne Vien?

  Something happens.

• 25:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, isn't that manifestation?

• 25:41Corinne Vien?

  Or brainwashing.

• 25:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, a little bit of both. We like it.

• 25:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Which also, sorry, not even a side tangent, because I'm not going to talk much about it, but if no one has listened to the podcast Wind of Change, it came out years ago and I recommended it and it is so good.

• 25:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is that about the music?

• 25:57Corinne Vien?

  Yes, it's about like a particular song and a theory that it was propaganda to dismantle the Soviet Union. And it's just a really good, like kind of investigative.

• 26:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've still never listened to it, so maybe I need to.

• 26:09Corinne Vien?

  I really liked it. So if you don't, then clearly we don't have the same taste.

• 26:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we're fighting.

• 26:14Corinne Vien?

  And we're fighting. Anyway, all right. So Maddie and her boyfriend are in British Columbia. There's supposed to be a meteor shower this evening.

• 26:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Of course.

• 26:23Corinne Vien?

  We decided to make, so romantic. We decided to make a date night out of it. So we loaded up my boyfriend's old 86 Toyota with blankets, a bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon and some popcorn. We drove out to a very remote location where there would be no light pollution so that we could see almost the entire night sky unobstructed. For a couple of hours, we laid in the bed of the truck, just staring up at the stars. We pointed out constellations, we noted particularly bright stars that we figured were planets. We counted all the satellites that passed by and we watched fiery meteors streaking across the sky every few minutes. It was incredible. I happened to be looking up at three very bright stars above us that formed a perfect triangle, when all of a sudden they slowly started to move.

• 27:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's always in a triangle formation.

• 27:08Corinne Vien?

  I know. It's like always three. All three of them, stationary for hours, slowly started moving in perfect unison across the starry sky. I pointed up at them and I said, um, I don't think stars move like that. And my boyfriend agreed. He was speechless. We both watched as these three bright lights slid silently across the night sky. And as they passed in front of other stars, they blocked the other stars out, revealing a triangular shape that was actually a solid structure.

• 27:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The fact that it was so dark that you couldn't see it before?

• 27:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 27:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That it looked like three individual stars.

• 27:46Corinne Vien?

  It's actually just the perimeter lights of a craft.

• 27:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn.

• 27:50Corinne Vien?

  Eventually it faded out of view as if getting higher and further away. And that was it. For years afterwards, my boyfriend would tell people, it was just the Starlink satellites.

• 27:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's not Starlink.

• 28:00Corinne Vien?

  They're not in a triangle shape. They're in like a line. It's a worm of lights. One day I pulled up a video of what those satellites looked like, to which he responded, shit.

• 28:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 28:10Corinne Vien?

  It was not like that at all. To this day, we have no explanation, other than it must have just been some kind of UFO.

• 28:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:16Corinne Vien?

  We must have stared up at that triangle for a couple hours before it even started to move. And it makes me wonder if there was something up there. If maybe they were staring back down at us. Thanks for reading, Maddie.

• 28:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, good thing you didn't take your phones out like Anisha did because,

• 28:31Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 28:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, okay, what if they used meteor showers as their distraction? That's how they get to come in and do all of their abducting.

• 28:40Corinne Vien?

  They're, oh, interesting.

• 28:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe that's what happened when the meteor crashed off of,

• 28:44Corinne Vien?

  It was actually,

• 28:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Massachusetts.

• 28:46Corinne Vien?

  UFO craft.

• 28:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:48Corinne Vien?

  Or they're just like dropping meteors. They like bring their own rock. Drop it.

• 28:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The way you are.

• 28:53Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 28:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn.

• 28:54Corinne Vien?

  Very weird.

• 28:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, what a romantic date. Love that for you.

• 28:57Corinne Vien?

  It does sound really lovely.

• 28:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's like, Laying out there staring at it.

• 29:01Corinne Vien?

  A UFO from a safe distance away.

• 29:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I agree. Although I would like, safe distance being, I could touch it.

• 29:08Corinne Vien?

  I wish I could swap places with you because I feel like I actually have multiple UFO stories and,

• 29:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's because you don't want it as much.

• 29:15Corinne Vien?

  Because I really don't. And I've seen too many. And one being way too close.

• 29:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I feel like every time we do an alien episode, I clarify this, but I want an alien experience. Like, we've read stories where someone was like medically ill, doctors couldn't figure it out, couldn't do anything. They were like, this might be the end.

• 29:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 29:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then that night, they have an experience where like, an alien type of entity comes through the window and miraculously, the next morning, they're completely healed.

• 29:43Corinne Vien?

  Right. Their spleen is missing.

• 29:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What am I sick with?

• 29:45Corinne Vien?

  Their IBS is gone.

• 29:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mental health. I don't know. Give me happiness.

• 29:50Corinne Vien?

  Their pill bottles are bedazzled.

• 29:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. I don't know. Give me something.

• 29:53Corinne Vien?

  Cure me. Give me happiness.

• 29:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just cure me. Okay. I have one from my listener Hannah, and it's called, "The Time I Saw My Dad Get Abducted By Aliens. Not traumatizing at all."

• 30:02Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 30:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As in, very traumatizing.

• 30:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, right.

• 30:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, ghoulies.

• 30:07Corinne Vien?

  First she goes to therapy, then she emails us.

• 30:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And the aliens then come back and be like, sorry, here's recovered mental health. We've cured you. Uh, I've been listening to your podcast for about a year now, and let's just say I'm addicted. I probably should set some boundaries and maybe take breaks from listening so I don't end up getting haunted. But where's the fun in that?

• 30:25Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 30:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My kind of ghoul, Hannah. Okay, so this is the story of when I witnessed my dad being abducted by aliens and then saw them again years later.

• 30:34Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 30:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I grew up in rural Minnesota, surrounded by farmland and dense forests. And I was about seven or eight years old when this happened. My family was helping my aunt and uncle move out of their house, which sat on a quiet country road, tucked among the trees, with the nearest neighbor about half a mile away. So secluded. We spent the entire day packing boxes, and by the time we finished, it was around 9:00 PM. My mom and brother had already headed home in a separate car, leaving just my dad and I at the house. Before we left, my dad said he needed to grab something from the backyard, so I waited in the truck, listening to the local classic rock station, not really paying attention to the time. But it did strike me as odd, because he didn't come back right away. It should have taken him less than 30 seconds. He was just grabbing something from the backyard.

• 31:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Slowly, I started to worry, and I look at the clock, over 20 minutes had passed. So now panic starts to set in. I was too scared to go outside to investigate, because the only weapons I had were tools that my dad kept in the truck door. And I was just a little girl, completely alone, very aware that my odds of winning a fight against something that could take my dad down were not great. Then, suddenly, as I'm looking around, the yard lit up with a blinding white light. It was just a flash, but it somehow felt like it lasted longer, stretching time itself. When the light faded, I looked to the backyard, and there was my dad, walking back toward me. His face was blank, almost emotionless, like he had just seen a ghost.

• 32:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  When he finally got to the car, I asked where he'd been, and he said, "I just went to the backyard." He looked confused when I told him how long he had been gone. To him, he thought he had been gone for less than 30 seconds.

• 32:12Corinne Vien?

  But he's looking so,

• 32:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 32:14Corinne Vien?

  Like drained and,

• 32:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 32:16Corinne Vien?

  disheveled.

• 32:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I asked if he'd seen the bright light. He hadn't. Later, he told me he did remember seeing a glowing white orb floating in the middle of the yard, but he said he thought maybe it was a guardian angel, or the spirit of my uncle's sister who had passed away earlier that year. But how do you explain the missing time? To this day, I am convinced he was abducted that night. And low key, I'm thankful it wasn't me. Now, fast forward to when I was 15, we were driving home from my volleyball practice, winding down dark country roads. And my friend and her mom were following behind us. They witnessed everything that we did, so we were not alone.

• 32:48Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 32:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was around 9:00 or 10:00 PM, when we rounded a bend and saw a perfect circle of white light in the sky, moving toward us. At first, we thought maybe it was something from the nearby military base, like a drone or some experimental craft. So we pulled over to watch it. The night was completely silent. And these lights moved all the way over to us, hovering directly above our car. No sound, no movement. They just hung in the air like that, like they were watching us.

• 33:17Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 33:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My dad went to grab his phone to record a video, and the second he pulled it out, the light shot off into the distance in a blink of an eye. Gone. This craft had been hovering over our car for a while, but the second he grabbed his phone, boom, gone. I've always wondered if these same aliens that I witnessed abducted my dad many years before, were coming back to check up on him, and they bolted when they realized he wasn't alone this time, or they saw him pull out his phone. It's been nearly 15 years since that encounter, and as far as my dad remembers, he hasn't experienced anything strange.

• 33:49Corinne Vien?

  Dang.

• 33:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah. I think I saw my dad being abducted by aliens.

• 33:53Corinne Vien?

  I kind of think so too, because otherwise, like, explain the missing time, explain the way that he's looking.

• 33:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The blinding white light.

• 33:59Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 34:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He thought it was just a minute, if that. Yeah. That's from Hannah.

• 34:03Corinne Vien?

  Wow. Oh my God. I wonder if he's had any memories come back to him?

• 34:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, it sounds like even that moment of seeing like the little orb in the backyard, didn't come back to him until after Hannah was like, hey, I think you were abducted by aliens. And he was like, oh, well, I did see a weird white light. And like, his brain jumped to guardian, or something paranormal in your sense. Then he was like, da-da, carry on.

• 34:27Corinne Vien?

  But if you don't know that, well, and also that just like proves that, how many times do people think that they're just seeing like, out of the peripheral vision, a spirit or an orb or something? And there's no one else,

• 34:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Abduction?

• 34:40Corinne Vien?

  To vouch for them that they're missing 20 minutes, or that they missed 90 minutes of time. Like, if there's no one else to tell you, and you're not really paying attention, many more people could be being abducted and have no clue.

• 34:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And it's not me, sadly.

• 34:53Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 34:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  With regret. Regretfully yours. Sabrina.

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• 37:00Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I have one called the UFO above my garage.

• 37:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lovely.

• 37:04Corinne Vien?

  And it does come with a picture. It's just a recreation, but the picture looks exactly like how the craft in the last story I told looks like.

• 37:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe all three of your stories are connected.

• 37:16Corinne Vien?

  Maybe they are. If this one has a meteor, I'm gonna vomit because I didn't plan on that. And it's been like a month since I picked them, so I can't really remember. Okay, the UFO above my garage. Hello, ghouls. My mom and I absolutely love your podcast. She convinced me that I should write into you guys.

• 37:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Aww.

• 37:33Corinne Vien?

  I've sent an email before, but after talking to my mom about this experience, I realized I actually got the story wrong. So now with more information, I will be telling you guys about the time that my whole family saw a UFO.

• 37:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, family, family bonding.

• 37:48Corinne Vien?

  Yep. In 2016, my family and I moved into our house after my little brother passed away.

• 37:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 37:55Corinne Vien?

  This house is your classic horror movie house. A log cabin in the middle of the woods down a long ass driveway.

• 38:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will say, just briefly looking at this photo, it reminds me of the house from, oh my, oh, by my blanking, Hereditary.

• 38:07Corinne Vien?

  Oh, looking at the actual log cabin one.

• 38:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 38:11Corinne Vien?

  Interesting. I can't remember what the house looks like in that. But it also kind of looks like half the house is near where my parents live now in Maine. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh, you're right. It really does. Okay, so if anyone's seen Hereditary, picture that house. It's a log cabin in the middle of the woods down a long ass driveway. It's surrounded by three ponds infested with snapping turtles, but you get it. The house is scary. Everything was going swimmingly until the summer. One night, we had just gotten home from my grandpa's house. And during that visit, my dad had told him about the night with the telescope. So on that night, we had brought out a telescope. And in doing so, we watched two lights that looked like stars separate and then quickly clash back together.

• 38:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very alien MO.

• 38:55Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm. We were already on edge. We were very aware of the concept of aliens. And after a while of being there, we decided to head home. I always hated the drive home from my grandpa's house. It was so ominous. And I quickly realized that it wasn't the drive home that I should be scared of. After pulling in the driveway and then parking, we all hear my dad say, what the fuck is that? And my dad's a military guy. He's usually able to explain everything. And so hearing him immediately scared, scared everyone.

• 39:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 39:25Corinne Vien?

  My brother and I got out of the truck. We looked up above the garage and hovering just above the tree line was a giant black triangle with a red light in each corner. My brother and I kept looking at the UFO and then at my dad's face. And we're searching for any sign of relief, but yeah, we found none. And he provided no explanation.

• 39:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So dad, you're supposed to make us feel safe right now.

• 39:48Corinne Vien?

  Sure, it's, well, how could he provide an explanation? There's a giant fucking triangle hovering above our garage. So he ushered us inside. We all start crying. And once inside, we turned on a movie and I began coloring. My mom recalls feeling as though she was stuck in a trance. She remembers saying, quote, "I really need to take a picture of this." But then she never attempted to lift up her phone or anything. It was like.

• 40:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She was in shock.

• 40:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. She stood outside and watching this UFO just move west silently and then disappear as if it went through a portal. She finally decided to go inside after not seeing it again for a little bit. She said that once she got inside, she felt as if she were actual projecting. Not only was she outside of her body, but the movie that she said we had quote unquote, "just started" was almost over.

• 40:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Might have been she abducted.

• 40:40Corinne Vien?

  Sounds like it. The picture I had just started coloring, well, that was already done. She recalls feeling as though she were outside for maybe 15 minutes, 25 tops. But in reality, she was gone for almost an hour.

• 40:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, ooh, I have like full chill.

• 40:56Corinne Vien?

  I personally believe they did something to her, but who knows? About a year after this experience, my little sister was born and she was keeping my mom up pretty late at night. My mom, exhausted, was rocking my sister back to sleep. She was just about to fall asleep when she looked up and across the room, looking at her through a window, was an alien figure just staring. Outside of this window is the roof of the lower level of this house. So if you stand on that roof and look in, you can see the rocking chair she was sitting in. Thanks for reading my story from Alyssa and Joni.

• 41:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn. Thank you for emailing this to us.

• 41:34Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck happened to your mom? Like the fact that she was in a trance for so long and that her physical body could be there, but the craft could be so far away.

• 41:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. It's like feeling like, almost like you were just put back into your body.

• 41:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And realizing that the last hour has been weird.

• 41:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. It's, yeah, and that's such a long time to just stand there. And like your only thought be, I should take a picture of this. And then it's just like kind of blinkness and you're just completely frozen in space, looking up at this thing until it finally moves away. Especially with your kids inside.

• 42:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 42:09Corinne Vien?

  With your husband inside.

• 42:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So many people around, yeah.

• 42:11Corinne Vien?

  I'm also curious.

• 42:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We don't understand how it works.

• 42:13Corinne Vien?

  I'm curious if the dad experienced anything because.

• 42:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, fear.

• 42:18Corinne Vien?

  The two kids are watching the movie, but don't you think like if, like, I'm just thinking about myself. Like if we just saw something weird and Brian stayed outside and he's been outside for 20 minutes, like.

• 42:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wouldn't you go?

• 42:29Corinne Vien?

  I'm gonna go check on him.

• 42:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So they all were kind of in a trance.

• 42:33Corinne Vien?

  Seems like it. Unless he did check on her and she said something like, I'm okay.

• 42:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm just looking.

• 42:38Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. What was his perception of everything that was going on? What was his experience?

• 42:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think the scariest thing with aliens is the not knowing what happens in that missing time. Like, if you look at repressed memories, the reason they're repressed is because they're hard to process or they're traumatic. You're not really repressing happy-go-lucky memories.

• 42:57Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 42:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And butterflies. Like you're repressing scary things. So it makes you think that bad things are happening in that lost time.

• 43:03Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Or like, I guess, in the whole vein of aliens wiping your memory. Could it be nice for some, but then not for others? Cause it's just like.

• 43:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like the SNL sketch.

• 43:13Corinne Vien?

  Right, right. Like you just have to squat over a bucket and pee and have your boobs slapped by a little alien. Like, you know, like that's the whole thing about trauma. Like one person, two people could be experiencing something. And for one person, it's this really monumental traumatic experience. And for the other person, it's like barely a memory for them. And so it's just, I almost wonder if like, it's the aliens way of trying to like, help humans by attempting to zap their memory of everything so they don't even have to go through it.

• 43:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are there various different types of aliens? And like one group of aliens are good and the other group is.

• 43:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, true.

• 43:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bad.

• 43:48Corinne Vien?

  Well, I mean, think about like the crafts, not that like we, you know, planes and aircrafts and helicopters. Like everything can look different here, but I feel like so many alien crafts are so similar. Like it's either like the triangle or the.

• 44:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The tic tac.

• 44:03Corinne Vien?

  The tic tac or the circle or the boomerang. And it's like, are those different species or are those just different crafts?

• 44:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We have different planes.

• 44:10Corinne Vien?

  We do. But also we don't, we're not really like that good at space travel. So maybe there's pretty specific parameters.

• 44:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You should watch Project Kill Mary. It's now available for streaming and it's just the most delightful movie.

• 44:21Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 44:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm gonna re-watch it already because I love it so much.

• 44:24Corinne Vien?

  Cause that's also a Brian one, so I can do it. I can do it with him.

• 44:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's one little jump scare, but it's not a horror scare.

• 44:31Corinne Vien?

  So I can warn him.

• 44:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You'll know when it's coming. It's when Ryan's like walking towards the other craft for the first time, like through the tunnel.

• 44:38Corinne Vien?

  He's gonna meet the little alien creature.

• 44:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 44:40Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 44:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Okay, I have one story to end this on. It's from our listener Mercedes and it's, "Are aliens studying slash following my family? Hello, I am a 30-year-old female and I would like to go buy a Mercedes. I recently found your YouTube channel and I'm addicted. I'm surprised I never stumbled across you guys, but now that I have, I'm totally binging your videos. And I thought you'd maybe want to hear a couple of my stories."

• 45:03Corinne Vien?

  Great.

• 45:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She says, "By the way, you ladies are both gorgeous and have the perfect voice for your podcast." Thank you.

• 45:08Corinne Vien?

  Thanks.

• 45:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's very nice.

• 45:09Corinne Vien?

  Except for my, my.

• 45:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Your sick voice now?

• 45:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 45:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Allergy voice?

• 45:13Corinne Vien?

  It's not sick, it's allergies. It took my voice away and I haven't gotten it back because we are pre-recording so much. I don't think my voice has a second arrest.

• 45:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. I think this week alone, we're recording nine episodes.

• 45:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 45:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a lot. Okay. "My whole life, I've had weird encounters with ghosts, aliens, glitches, shifts, et cetera. I often refrain from telling these stories in fear people will think I'm crazy if I told them. My mom has always told me since I was a baby that I would laugh, giggle and point at corners of the room where nothing was, which I never really took to heart until further events in my life. However, my grandma always told me that she thought I was an alien. And that has always felt unsettling for me. Here's some context. When my grandmother was 23 years old, she lived in Castle Rock, Washington, where she owned a chicken farm with my grandpa. One night, when she was doing farm work, she saw a floating object in the distance with flashing lights. Her curiosity peaked because she had never seen anything like this before. So she started to focus on the object.

• 46:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Before she knew it, the object zoomed over her body and it was this gigantic saucer with thousands of blinking lights with all these different colors. She said that she, in that moment, became completely unhinged, started screaming, "Ah, they're gonna get me."

• 46:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this spaceship shot up in the air, spun and took off in the blink of a second.

• 46:29Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God.

• 46:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ever since then, she's been obsessed with aliens. Just like her on a farm, being intrigued and then it getting close.

• 46:38Corinne Vien?

  All the chickens are like, our leader, our leader, mama.

• 46:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So she's been obsessed ever since. And I have heard this story hundreds of times while growing up and I listened, but I personally never experienced any alien activity. So I didn't give too much interest in her story until I started to experience these very strange, bizarre things in our home. Our house was on a private lake on the outskirts of Olympia, Washington. Growing up, this was a dense wooded area. There were two other teenagers on our small street around the same age as my brother and I, and at night we would go on long walks and we would see weird things in the sky all the time, but nothing crazy ever happened. When I hit adulthood is when I actually have what I believe were encounters. First, it started up dreams. I knew they were aliens, but they looked like humans.

• 47:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I had a specific dream one time when I was 18 years old, where I was walking down our street and I saw a group of people taking pictures of this man. They start frantically asking this man questions and flashing lights were going off from cameras, like paparazzi. People were trying to get in his face and film him and record him. And he was just walking up the hill to my house. He wasn't paying anyone any mind, just continued to walk towards my house. He got about a quarter up the street before I ran into him and the crowd. Once I saw him, I was instantly drawn to him. He was a white man, slightly buff build, who had medium brown, shoulder length hair with a five o'clock shadow. He had what looked like those cop sunglasses on and a leather jacket with regular blue jeans.

• 48:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I didn't try to speak to him because I felt there was no point. And I remember vividly all this chatter of about 25 people trying to get his attention. No response. He just continued to walk. And then I followed along his right side and we walked together. When I went to touch his forearm, he immediately stopped and turned to me and said, don't touch. You'll get a rash and I don't want you to get that.

• 48:32Corinne Vien?

  It's so weird that he's so accessible.

• 48:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 48:34Corinne Vien?

  He's just there.

• 48:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  By that time though, I had already touched him, but maybe he didn't notice, or I don't know, maybe it was too late. The next day, when I woke up from this dream, you won't believe, but I had a rash all over my hand, leading up to my forearm, the hand that I touched him in my dream with.

• 48:50Corinne Vien?

  My God.

• 48:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So weird, right? Well, what's even more weird is that a couple of days after that, there were these people who were moving into the house at the end of the hill. And you won't believe it, a man who moved into that house, who was the husband of the family, was the same man that I saw in my dream, the one who gave me the rash. Did an alien move into my neighborhood? What do you think about this? I have no idea, but maybe my-

• 49:13Corinne Vien?

  My neighbor's married to an alien. That's another movie.

• 49:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My next door neighbor is an alien.

• 49:17Corinne Vien?

  Dang, that's so weird to like have that dream, have the rash and then have this. What was your, yeah, wait, what interactions did you have with this guy over the years? Like, did he have any?

• 49:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, is he an alien celebrity? And you saw like the paparazzi, they were like, oh, he's finally moving to Earth.

• 49:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Oh my God, he was sent on a mission to like be the little spy. Or is this literally their reality show? It was like they watch him try to blend in with Earth.

• 49:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The amount of reality shows that aliens could have, based on just watching humans.

• 49:46Corinne Vien?

  Wait, what's the movie? Is it Neighborhood Watch? Is that the movie where they think something is like, something weird is going on in the neighborhood? So they create a neighborhood watch and they're like trying to find the aliens. But one, one of the guys on Neighborhood Watch is one of the aliens? And he's like, I just thought this was fun to join.

• 50:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know if it's called that, cause what comes up is-

• 50:07Corinne Vien?

  I think like Seth Rogen's in it.

• 50:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But why is this image not look like what I remember? Okay, there's two.

• 50:14Corinne Vien?

  Seth Rogen. It's from 2012. Four men form a neighborhood watch group as a way to get out of their day to day family routines, only to find themselves defending the earth from an alien invasion.

• 50:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's called Neighborhood Watch?

• 50:28Corinne Vien?

  Oh, sorry. It's called The Watch.

• 50:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, cause Neighborhood Watch looks like it's more of a depressing movie.

• 50:33Corinne Vien?

  No, The Watch has Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughn, Jonah Hill and Richard Ayotte. And why did I think that Seth Rogen was a part of it?

• 50:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause I feel like that's the type of movie he would do. Oh, now I want to go have a movie night.

• 50:46Corinne Vien?

  Right, there's so many good ones.

• 50:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm actually about to go get a tattoo after this. I don't know what tattoos I'm getting. I don't know. There's this tattoo artist in LA. His name is Joey Hill. He works at Night Watch Tattoo Studio in Santa Monica. I've followed him for years. We have a lot of friends who've gotten tattoos from him. He posted on his story that he's going to be in Boston like a couple of months ago. And I just DM'd, I was like, can I get an appointment? And I've just been so busy researching and telling ghost stories that I have not spent any time figuring out what I'm going to get. So I'm just going to show up and see what happens.

• 51:14Corinne Vien?

  See what happens. I feel like you've had a lot of ideas.

• 51:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but there's a lot of ideas of like things that I want to design with someone, like based on memories or based on things in my life, but they don't exist on mine. Like I need to have an artist design it. Anyway.

• 51:27Corinne Vien?

  Cool. Well, next time we record, Sabrina will be tatted.

• 51:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Extra tatted. Anyway, if you have any alien encounters or paranormal stories in general, please email them to us at two girls, one ghost, podcast at gmail.com. If you have any tattoo inspiration, please send them my way because I will probably just

• 51:45Corinne Vien?

  Keep getting tattoos.

• 51:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Keep booking.

• 51:47Corinne Vien?

  Have it here, here and-

• 51:51Corinne Vien?

  Here and now, here and there.

• 51:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now and then.

• 51:54Corinne Vien?

  Here and there.

• 51:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Amen.

• 51:58Corinne Vien?

  Beam me up and fix my brain.

• 51:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jesus.

• 52:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If you want, now we're just saying random shit. If you want episodes ad free, one week early, plus bonus content, please join us over on Patreon. And we also have YouTube. If you want to watch, please rate and review us, tell all of your friends, tell the aliens, aliens, you tell your people that you-

• 52:17Corinne Vien?

  Your aliens.

• 52:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you tell your aliens. When you abduct people, make the one thing they remember to go listen to Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 52:23Corinne Vien?

  Damn, did the Neanderthals have alien encounters? That thought just came through, cause like, you know, like everyone talks about like ancient aliens or whatever, but like it's not that ancient.

• 52:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 52:31Corinne Vien?

  We're still talking about like kind of in the history and evolution of people, like they're modern humans. If you have had a past life as a Neanderthal-

• 52:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you remember it.

• 52:39Corinne Vien?

  You remember your alien abduction.

• 52:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let us know.

• 52:42Corinne Vien?

  And shout out to Jamie Ryan, who Edison produces our podcast. Thank you, Jamie.

• 52:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love you all.

• 52:46Corinne Vien?

  And we will see you on the other side.

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