Reece Shearsmith is treated to a showstopping salmon en croûte

We’re getting into the Halloween spirit early for a man who loves the spooky season. Best known for The League of Gentlemen and Inside No. 9, alongside a host of on-screen and stage roles, Reece Shearsmith joins us ahead of the release of his new book, Things I Took From The Dark: The Museum of Me. Inspired by his childhood love of horror, the book delves into Reece’s collection of strange and unusual objects, the stories that surround them and the ways they have shaped his life and work. Reece has a strong passion for eating with the seasons so it seemed only right to recreate a meal inspired by one of his and his wife’s New Year’s Eve traditions. Angela serves up Martha Collison’s recipe for the best salmon en croûte, enjoyed alongside a bottle of Waitrose No.1 Chablis 2024 from Burgundy, selected by the Waitrose wine experts. Halloween might still be a few weeks away, but it’s never been far from Reece’s life, as he discusses his childhood love of horror stories, and the rather unconventional circumstances in which he met his wife… in a coffin. Naturally, we have to ask: does anyone around the Dish table actually believe in ghosts or the afterlife? Once that’s settled, we turn to Reece’s other passions, including baking and his successful Celebrity Bake Off appearance alongside Nick, before getting a glimpse into the mysterious Gossip Club he shares with Bob Mortimer and Matt Berry. You can watch full episodes of Dish on YouTube and on Spotify. All recipes from this podcast can be found at waitrose.com/dishrecipes The recipe for the best salmon en croûte was created for Waitrose by Martha Collison A transcript for this episode can be found at waitrose.com/dish If you want to get in touch with us about anything at all, contact [email protected] Dish from Waitrose is made by Cold Glass Productions00:00 - Coming up on Dish… 00:47 - Welcome! 01:56 - A lesson in olive oil 05:23 - Recce Shearsmith is here! 06:57 - It’s always Halloween for Reece! 07:45 - Ghosts and the afterlife 09:25 - Nick and Reece on Bake Off! 11:45 - Reece’s food likes 12:02 - Nothing beats Christmas! 16:28 - Autumn superiority 18:33 - Thanksgiving 19:23 - A salmon wellington to reign in the New Year! 20:29 - From Nigel Slater love to eating out 21:28 - Reece’s gossip club 22:26 - Reece’s dislikes & food obsessions 25:01 - Food is served! 26:31 - Wine pairing 26:54 - Reece’s new book! 29:30 - A lifelong passion for horror 33:31 - Catching bats? 34:31 - Coffin weddings and witchy weddings! 37:08 - Fast food quiz 38:10 - Inside Number 9 & League of Gentlemen 44:57 - End of the show question Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:08Nick Grimshaw?

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• 0:30Speaker 01

  Ah, now this is living. Tuesday night chili con carne with Tilda rice.

• 0:36Speaker 02

  Call that living. This is living. Chicken stir fry with Tilda firecracker rice.

• 0:41Speaker 01

  Okay, I see your stir fry and raise you. Tilda sticky rice poke bowl.

• 0:46Speaker 02

  Poke bowl, mate. Tilda coconut rice, lamb curry, poppadoms, chutney, the lot.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  Whoa, okay, now we're definitely living.

• 0:56Speaker 02

  Tilda, cook like you mean it, live like you mean it.

• 1:01Nick Grimshaw?

  Coming off Dish with Reece Shear Smith.

• 1:04Speaker 03

  It's me and Bob and Matt Berry. We meet for meals and we talk. We have our gossip club.

• 1:09Nick Grimshaw?

  Right, okay.

• 1:09Speaker 03

  Which is where we just chat about people that we find, find themselves at the lucky table.

• 1:15Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh.

• 1:16Speaker 03

  And don't really deserve it.

• 1:17Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh. But you met your wife?

• 1:20Speaker 03

  In a coffin.

• 1:21Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh.

• 1:22Speaker 03

  And we just got very close in that coffin. And the next thing is, I married it.

• 1:26Nick Grimshaw?

  You married it.

• 1:28Speaker 03

  They put the ointment on the board. Sounds like Chris Uwanks.

• 1:35Nick Grimshaw?

  Dish from Waitrose is a cold glass production. This podcast may contain some strong language and adult themes.

• 1:48Nick Grimshaw?

  Hello, welcome to Dish from Waitrose. I'm Nick Grimshaw.

• 1:52Angela Hartnett?

  And I'm Angela Hartnett.

• 1:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Hello, Angela Hartnett.

• 1:54Angela Hartnett?

  Hello, Nicholas Grimshaw.

• 1:56Nick Grimshaw?

  How are you? Yeah, I'm good.

• 1:58Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, very good, thank you.

• 1:59Nick Grimshaw?

  We have a great guest today.

• 2:01Angela Hartnett?

  We do?

• 2:02Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece Shear Smith is gonna be on.

• 2:04Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, your Bake Off competitor.

• 2:05Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece, of course, the creator and star of so many great things. The League of Gentlemen, Psychoville, Inside Number Nine, some really brilliant.

• 2:15Angela Hartnett?

  He's brilliant, iconic shows, I feel.

• 2:17Nick Grimshaw?

  Truly iconic shows. And so Reece is gonna be here. Reece, I've met before because I've done Bake Off with him.

• 2:21Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 2:22Nick Grimshaw?

  And he's so great.

• 2:23Angela Hartnett?

  Nice.

• 2:24Nick Grimshaw?

  He's such a lovely guy.

• 2:25Angela Hartnett?

  I'm looking forward to it.

• 2:26Nick Grimshaw?

  He's gonna be here to talk about his book, which is called Things I Took From The Dark, The Museum Of Me. And it's all these sort of objects and laws and ghosts and monsters and things like that.

• 2:37Angela Hartnett?

  Nice.

• 2:37Nick Grimshaw?

  Perfect for this time of year. He's really smart and really funny, but really gentle.

• 2:43Angela Hartnett?

  Oh.

• 2:43Nick Grimshaw?

  And when he was on Bake Off, he was so incredible, like the stuff he was making, truly artistic.

• 2:50Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, I'm looking forward to meeting him.

• 2:52Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, so he'll be here in a second to talk all about his new book.

• 2:56Angela Hartnett?

  Prior to that?

• 2:56Nick Grimshaw?

  Food and stuff. Prior to that, we're gonna talk about olive oil.

• 2:59Angela Hartnett?

  A glug of olive oil.

• 2:59Nick Grimshaw?

  Now, olive oil is a good thing to talk about, I feel, with you.

• 3:03Angela Hartnett?

  Oh.

• 3:03Nick Grimshaw?

  Because there's aisles of olive oil now.

• 3:06Angela Hartnett?

  Everywhere.

• 3:06Nick Grimshaw?

  Aisles of it, okay, mainly in Waitrose. Which ones which? What do you get? What do you cook with? People say, don't cook with that one. You've got to cook with that one. Don't use this one. So we're gonna have an olive oil lesson here.

• 3:19Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 3:19Nick Grimshaw?

  With you, Angela Hartnett, who I believe you're 40% olive oil, aren't you? Blood type, olive oil.

• 3:26Angela Hartnett?

  90, darling, 90.

• 3:27Nick Grimshaw?

  90. So yeah, so there's all different types. When you are, not you, because you've got your chef hat on, or like when we are in the supermarket, what should you be getting? What should you be looking out for?

• 3:37Angela Hartnett?

  I think that if you're, you know, for most people at home, I think go for a medium-priced olive oil. You know, you don't need to go for the most expensive. And if you can afford, you know, middle of the road, I think that's a good option. I think go for an extra virgin, because a lot of the time you're using it to finish stuff like salads, put on a bit of pasta, finish a bit of fish with it or something.

• 3:56Nick Grimshaw?

  What does that mean, extra virgin?

• 3:57Angela Hartnett?

  It's not being unblended and it's a purer version of olive oil. And what it is, is you don't really wanna cook with extra virgin olive oil. And hence why they want them in small little bottles, because you don't want it seeing the sun. You want it in a cool place, not in the heat. So generally, people say, don't cook with an extra virgin olive oil. But sometimes when I make things like a little pasta dish, I'll use an extra virgin olive oil, because I'll put that in, maybe then a little bit of butter and then saute all my onions, saffritto and stuff. So you get all that lovely flavour. But you wouldn't necessarily use that to fry a piece of fish.

• 4:30Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 4:30Angela Hartnett?

  Because that's gonna go to a really high temperature.

• 4:32Nick Grimshaw?

  Okay.

• 4:32Angela Hartnett?

  So we've got the, that's the cooking one. So you see, that's more blended and it much lighter in colour. This is a nice extra virgin one that we do use a lot on this show. So try that one. Do you like that one?

• 4:44Nick Grimshaw?

  Should I try it?

• 4:45Angela Hartnett?

  Try it, yeah.

• 4:46Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you remember when we had Angela Scanlon on and she was talking about she has an olive oil shot in the morning?

• 4:50Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, loads of people I know do. You just literally like that.

• 4:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Mm.

• 4:53Angela Hartnett?

  Do you like that one?

• 4:54Nick Grimshaw?

  I mean.

• 4:55Angela Hartnett?

  It's hard when you eat it, it's like dressed straight.

• 4:58Nick Grimshaw?

  Tough like that, yeah.

• 5:01Angela Hartnett?

  But with other stuff and finishing, it's gonna be perfect.

• 5:05Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

• 5:07Angela Hartnett?

  You stick to your collagen broth in the morning.

• 5:09Nick Grimshaw?

  No, I can't be having that as a shot. Are there any olives that you should have with, say, a vegetable or a fish or a meat? No, you don't need to delve into it that way.

• 5:17Angela Hartnett?

  No, I don't think you don't. I think, I think go find an olive oil that you like. I don't like them too strong and peppery and too harsh on the palate. Smooth olive oil. And, you know, I buy just a standard Italian variety that you get from Waitrose. And I use it for salad dressings. I use it to cook with. You know, I think for me, if I'm absolutely honest, vinegar, I think is the one where choose it. Spend your money on vinegar, because vinegar, I think, can transform a dish.

• 5:41Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh.

• 5:41Angela Hartnett?

  Whereas olive oil, I think, is a great base for so many things. But vinegar can really cut through the fat and sort of lighten and then change the whole flavour profile. And your Dijon mustard.

• 5:50Nick Grimshaw?

  Okay, good advice.

• 5:51Angela Hartnett?

  There you go.

• 5:52Nick Grimshaw?

  How would you feel if someone came to a dinner party and brought you a bottle of olive oil over a bottle of wine?

• 5:57Angela Hartnett?

  I wouldn't mind, I'd love that.

• 5:59Nick Grimshaw?

  Quite good, quite good production.

• 6:00Angela Hartnett?

  Margot actually did. Margot bought me a bottle of Georgian olive oil, Margot Henderson. I thought it was a bottle of wine until Neil and I happened to have realised it was a bottle of good bottle.

• 6:11Nick Grimshaw?

  No, but that's a good gift.

• 6:12Angela Hartnett?

  But I really liked it. I love a gift like that.

• 6:14Nick Grimshaw?

  Did you have it for longer, really?

• 6:15Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, exactly, yeah. It's a really nice gift. Next time you're over.

• 6:18Nick Grimshaw?

  Shall we welcome our guest?

• 6:19Angela Hartnett?

  Hmm, let's get him in.

• 6:21Nick Grimshaw?

  Let's get him in. Let's welcome Reece Shear Smith to Dish.

• 6:26Nick Grimshaw?

  Welcome.

• 6:26Speaker 03

  Nice to see you.

• 6:27Nick Grimshaw?

  How are you? Nice to see you.

• 6:28Speaker 03

  Lovely to see you, Reece. How are you?

• 6:30Nick Grimshaw?

  How are you doing?

• 6:30Speaker 03

  You good? Yeah, I'm really good. Thank you for having me.

• 6:34Nick Grimshaw?

  Of course.

• 6:34Speaker 03

  Little setup.

• 6:36Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, thanks for Reece, yeah.

• 6:38Speaker 03

  Got a knife for me.

• 6:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 6:40Speaker 03

  Last time we, last time we were together was probably Bake Off.

• 6:44Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, it was.

• 6:45Angela Hartnett?

  I heard you won.

• 6:46Nick Grimshaw?

  Yes.

• 6:47Speaker 03

  I did, no one doesn't know that.

• 6:49Nick Grimshaw?

  No.

• 6:49Speaker 03

  Everyone knows that.

• 6:50Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah. Well, Reece, come on in.

• 6:52Speaker 03

  Can I come in?

• 6:52Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, come on in.

• 6:56Nick Grimshaw?

  Now, Angela, as it's not yet Halloween.

• 6:58Angela Hartnett?

  No, not yet.

• 6:59Nick Grimshaw?

  Just around the corner.

• 7:00Angela Hartnett?

  Nearly.

• 7:01Speaker 03

  Very exciting.

• 7:03Nick Grimshaw?

  We are allowed to go a little bit early.

• 7:04Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 7:05Nick Grimshaw?

  And I thought I could use it to introduce our guest today.

• 7:07Angela Hartnett?

  Of course.

• 7:08Nick Grimshaw?

  I've got some sound effects to help introduce our guest. I've got the sound of a creaky door.

• 7:15Nick Grimshaw?

  I've got the howling of a wolf.

• 7:19Nick Grimshaw?

  I've got a spooky bit of thunder. Oh, Atmos, ooh. And I've also got a devilish laugh.

• 7:32Nick Grimshaw?

  Terrifying. Please welcome Reece Shear Smith, everybody.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  Thank you, everyone.

• 7:41Nick Grimshaw?

  Scary, that laugh, isn't it? Oh my god.

• 7:44Angela Hartnett?

  You can have that all day, you can have it all day.

• 7:47Nick Grimshaw?

  We should download that as a text.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  That's nice.

• 7:49Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 7:49Speaker 03

  I thought it was you.

• 7:50Nick Grimshaw?

  No, not that terrifying. Hi, Reece.

• 7:54Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 7:54Nick Grimshaw?

  Welcome.

• 7:55Speaker 03

  Thank you very much for having me.

• 7:56Nick Grimshaw?

  How are you?

• 7:57Angela Hartnett?

  I'm happy with this.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  I'm good, yeah, very excited. And like you said, because it's only a few weeks away, Halloween is already begun for me.

• 8:02Nick Grimshaw?

  Yes.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  It never really goes away, to be honest. I'm very big on it, but.

• 8:07Angela Hartnett?

  Are you decorated house already or?

• 8:09Speaker 03

  There are things that people would think are Halloweeny all year round in my house.

• 8:14Angela Hartnett?

  Wow.

• 8:14Speaker 03

  Werewolf fetus.

• 8:15Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 8:17Speaker 03

  Sort of vampire killing kit.

• 8:19Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 8:20Angela Hartnett?

  Just by the door when you walk in.

• 8:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. The house is a sort of museum to scary things, yeah.

• 8:27Nick Grimshaw?

  Scary stuff.

• 8:27Speaker 03

  Do you like it, Ange?

• 8:28Nick Grimshaw?

  Because you live in quite a spooky part of town.

• 8:31Angela Hartnett?

  I live in an old house, so it naturally feels spooky.

• 8:33Speaker 03

  Haunted?

• 8:34Angela Hartnett?

  No, you don't know, do you? When you're by yourself there, it does creak. And a friend of mine said, he goes, the noise is in your house.

• 8:42Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 8:42Angela Hartnett?

  And we're so used to them, so I maybe, I don't know. Maybe we need to check it out.

• 8:46Nick Grimshaw?

  It does feel a bit spooky.

• 8:46Speaker 03

  We're getting into it.

• 8:47Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you believe in ghosts? Getting into it very quickly, aren't we?

• 8:51Angela Hartnett?

  You could be persuaded to believe.

• 8:53Nick Grimshaw?

  I feel like, I'm not, no, I'm not a hard no, but I've not experienced one.

• 8:57Angela Hartnett?

  Yes, that's, that's.

• 8:58Nick Grimshaw?

  Have you?

• 8:59Angela Hartnett?

  I've not experienced one.

• 9:00Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you believe in them?

• 9:02Angela Hartnett?

  I would like to believe in them.

• 9:03Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, that's what I feel like.

• 9:04Angela Hartnett?

  I would like to know the people that have left this life that I would like to see again would come back and just sit on the end of the bed and have a chat. That would be a nice thought. Oh, no, I do.

• 9:13Speaker 03

  At the end of the bed at night time.

• 9:15Angela Hartnett?

  Just have a little chat.

• 9:16Speaker 03

  No. I need an appointment.

• 9:18Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, okay. Since I made a diary appointment then.

• 9:20Speaker 03

  Not a jump scare.

• 9:21Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah. Not in the middle of the night, in the dark.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  Why do they always come back and they've got nothing or any interest to say to people?

• 9:27Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 9:27Speaker 03

  It's just like, oh, I know where my, your keys are or.

• 9:30Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 9:31Speaker 03

  I like that picture of us in the caravan. You're kidding me? You've managed to come from the other side and you're telling me?

• 9:40Nick Grimshaw?

  That's true. Do you believe, Reece?

• 9:42Speaker 03

  I love the idea of it. And I always have, and I'm obsessed with it. But I think, no, I think it's the power of the mind is what it is. And you want to believe, and it obviously answers a lot of comforting questions, doesn't it? To think, oh, everyone is there waiting.

• 9:58Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 9:58Speaker 03

  But no, I think it's, I think it's bullshit.

• 10:03Nick Grimshaw?

  Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween.

• 10:06Angela Hartnett?

  You don't believe in the afterlife then?

• 10:08Speaker 03

  No, I don't think so. Until I go to a funeral and I'm sat there and I think, oh, it's nice this, I want to believe it.

• 10:14Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  But I think that's just a comforting thing.

• 10:16Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, I think, yeah.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  It's the same as like having a big marshmallow or something like that. Exactly the same.

• 10:22Angela Hartnett?

  Afterlife marshmallow?

• 10:24Speaker 03

  Afterlife marshmallow, bag of marshmallows.

• 10:26Nick Grimshaw?

  We were just talking over there about the last time I saw you was Bake Off.

• 10:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:31Nick Grimshaw?

  So it was me, Reece, Philippa Perry, Dizzy Rascal, and normally they don't put four best friends on it.

• 10:36Angela Hartnett?

  Hmm.

• 10:38Nick Grimshaw?

  They made an exception. And we were all housemates, so it just made sense.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  It was fine, yeah, we knew each other, we were like, we'll all just go and do this now.

• 10:44Angela Hartnett?

  Okay.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  But it was one of the first times where I've been me on things.

• 10:49Angela Hartnett?

  Okay, yes.

• 10:50Speaker 03

  And it was new for me to dare to do that, you know, I'm an actor and I try to hide behind the characters and I'm quite happy in that environment and I'm not really celebrity-like.

• 11:00Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  So that was one of the first forays into, I thought, well, I got to do it.

• 11:03Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 11:04Speaker 03

  Because it was a fun thing and I did enjoy it and I thought I could bring in my artistic ways and Halloween. Because I made all Halloween things, didn't I?

• 11:12Nick Grimshaw?

  You did, and it was not, nothing to do with Halloween?

• 11:15Speaker 03

  No.

• 11:16Nick Grimshaw?

  It was like March or something.

• 11:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it was, maybe it was September.

• 11:20Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, okay.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  Because it was coming, because I remember them saying, we need it to be seasonal because of getting the pumpkins.

• 11:27Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, yes.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  For my pumpkin tray bake.

• 11:30Angela Hartnett?

  Oh.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Which, by the way, got the Hollywood handshake.

• 11:34Nick Grimshaw?

  It did, come on. Dude, dude, dude.

• 11:39Nick Grimshaw?

  I didn't get a sniff of Hollywood.

• 11:40Speaker 03

  No.

• 11:41Nick Grimshaw?

  You didn't come near me.

• 11:42Speaker 03

  He did, he had to.

• 11:43Nick Grimshaw?

  He had to.

• 11:44Angela Hartnett?

  He didn't want to.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  He didn't want to, but he had to approach you.

• 11:47Angela Hartnett?

  But you won the whole thing, yeah.

• 11:50Speaker 03

  It was a biscuit selfie we had to do, remember?

• 11:53Angela Hartnett?

  Right.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  And it was all types of biscuit that you could imagine, I did two, ginger and shortbread.

• 11:58Angela Hartnett?

  All right.

• 11:58Speaker 03

  And, but I did it in like the shape of a little toy theatre.

• 12:01Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, sweet.

• 12:01Speaker 03

  With me on the stage like Hamlet, because I never play it other than in a biscuit. With a camera pointing at my, doing a selfie.

• 12:08Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  And it was, it was enough to wow them.

• 12:11Nick Grimshaw?

  It was wow, I remember being really, it was really intricate and detailed and it was amazing. And have you kept the baking up? Have you carried that on?

• 12:20Speaker 03

  A bit, I mean, I've got a really sweet tooth and I've got to be careful with that because you couldn't get, find yourself, I'll make a cake today, and then it's every day you're making cakes.

• 12:28Angela Hartnett?

  Yes, yeah, yeah.

• 12:29Speaker 03

  So you've just got to be disciplined with what, the ones you choose.

• 12:32Nick Grimshaw?

  What do you get when you win Bake Off?

• 12:34Speaker 03

  You get the Star Baker apron.

• 12:36Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, you get the Star Baker apron.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, which I've been, I've not worn it since, because it feels like showing off.

• 12:42Nick Grimshaw?

  But nice you're wearing it today on the podcast.

• 12:43Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 12:44Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah. Lovely to have it on.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Glad, yes.

• 12:47Nick Grimshaw?

  And well, while Angela is having a little check on what we're gonna eat, should we do some of your food likes and dislikes?

• 12:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 12:53Nick Grimshaw?

  I, I love these and a great list.

• 12:55Speaker 03

  Do you agree with them?

• 12:56Nick Grimshaw?

  I really do, seasonal food, I get caught up in seasonal food, as you should.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  Quite right.

• 13:02Nick Grimshaw?

  And your list says, I love food connected to or associated with occasions or seasonal markers in the calendar.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 13:10Nick Grimshaw?

  So like a Christmas dinner, let's start Christmas.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, I mean, that's the one, that's, that would be my final, my last, my last supper.

• 13:17Nick Grimshaw?

  Well, that was what you'd have, yeah, like of all, all trimmings.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Of all the trimmings, yeah, all the pigs in blankets, the whole works, it's the day you're allowed to have too much on a plate.

• 13:26Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  And so you feel absolutely stuffed. It's great, isn't it, when it happens, when you eat a Christmas dinner and you're not feeling like you need to burst at the end and split and have two, two years sleep.

• 13:38Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  So, yeah, Christmas dinner to me is like one of the great treats of the, of the calendar. The trappings of the event of it, I, I've learned to be less stressed about the creation of a Christmas dinner.

• 13:53Nick Grimshaw?

  And are you the one that's in charge?

• 13:54Speaker 03

  No, my, Jay, my wife does it a bit, we sort of do it together because we have the in-laws come, so there is an event to it, but you've just got to go, it's just like any other Sunday dinner, don't worry about it. And then as soon as you take that pressure off, it can become nice, because we've had rows, you know, it gets tense.

• 14:11Angela Hartnett?

  People do.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, and that's the thing of Christmas, isn't it? People, it's some people's most hated, stressful time of year, and I get it, but we, if you sort of really sort of actively choose to, to not allow it to be, it can be fun.

• 14:25Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  But the, yeah, I love Christmas dinner, too much stuffing.

• 14:28Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  Because I love stuffing.

• 14:30Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 03

  And, yeah, and too many pigs in blankets, they weirdly are always the thing I forget to add in. It's like we get it sat down, we've forgotten the pigs in blankets, you're gonna be another 20 minute wait while you quickly do them.

• 14:42Nick Grimshaw?

  You'd never do that, would you, Angela?

• 14:43Angela Hartnett?

  No, I'd just leave it in the oven.

• 14:44Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, no, we had the exact thing here.

• 14:47Angela Hartnett?

  I don't ever do pigs in, it's not something we do, you know, because every family has their own traditions.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Get out.

• 14:51Angela Hartnett?

  Get out.

• 14:51Nick Grimshaw?

  Get out.

• 14:52Angela Hartnett?

  Get out.

• 14:52Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece, it's like.

• 14:54Angela Hartnett?

  No.

• 14:54Speaker 03

  What are the unusual things that go in Christmas dinners that you wouldn't normally have?

• 14:58Angela Hartnett?

  Well, I always do, this will throw you both, I do a salad, I do like a slaw, a red cabbage slaw.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  For when? Before?

• 15:05Angela Hartnett?

  No, with it, so you have your.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  A salad?

• 15:08Angela Hartnett?

  It's no, like a slaw, because something crunchy as well, you see.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  Oh, it's all wrong.

• 15:13Angela Hartnett?

  It's all wrong. And I have friends who put peas on a Christmas dinner.

• 15:17Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 15:18Nick Grimshaw?

  Nope. What was what you did last year? Because that was like a parsnip salad, do you remember you had like parsnips and shredded cabbage in it?

• 15:25Angela Hartnett?

  So it's all the Christmas elements in there, beef, yeah.

• 15:27Nick Grimshaw?

  And it had like ma, like a mayo in it maybe?

• 15:30Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, we did some sort of cream underneath, yeah.

• 15:32Nick Grimshaw?

  But it wasn't cold, it wasn't hot, it was just sort of.

• 15:33Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, it's room temperature, nothing fridge cold.

• 15:35Nick Grimshaw?

  No, nothing like a cold salad, of course.

• 15:38Angela Hartnett?

  Just have a little bit of freshness, we have all the rest, roast potatoes, I love a stuffing.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:42Angela Hartnett?

  I love a stuffing.

• 15:43Speaker 03

  Do you like, I mean, do you do the real one, where it's actual meat?

• 15:46Angela Hartnett?

  I do a two, I do a veggie one and a sausage, I do a sausage one with almond, sage and apricots, dried apricots.

• 15:54Speaker 03

  I love chestnuts.

• 15:56Angela Hartnett?

  Yes, and chestnuts, yeah, chestnuts with Brussels, I like, yeah.

• 16:00Nick Grimshaw?

  I like getting excited in like early December.

• 16:02Angela Hartnett?

  We need Reece back for our Christmas, he's so happy, we're wasting him on this.

• 16:06Nick Grimshaw?

  Because they love all the Christmasy stuff as well.

• 16:09Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 16:09Nick Grimshaw?

  You say that you love a mince pie as well, but it's a small mince pie.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, I do make a mince pies and it's always Christmas Eve.

• 16:15Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  Radio four.

• 16:16Angela Hartnett?

  You make it on Christmas Eve?

• 16:17Speaker 03

  Christmas Eve, Radio four is on.

• 16:18Angela Hartnett?

  Cozy.

• 16:19Speaker 03

  And it's cozy, yes, it is, and the carols, you know, King's College are playing.

• 16:24Angela Hartnett?

  Lovely.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  And I make these, a big batch of very small mince pies.

• 16:28Angela Hartnett?

  Mince pies, yeah.

• 16:29Speaker 03

  I think it was by accident with the tray I had, but it's just perfect, because I don't like, don't like too much of the meat, the sweet meat.

• 16:36Angela Hartnett?

  And do you do Christmas pudding?

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah, yeah, and do Christmas cake, yeah, sometimes October.

• 16:43Angela Hartnett?

  Can I just come around to your house?

• 16:46Speaker 03

  We do a thing where we make the Christmas cake and everybody in the family has a hand, literally a hand in it, we've got in.

• 16:52Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, that's so nice.

• 16:52Speaker 03

  And we mix it at our ages.

• 16:54Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 16:55Speaker 03

  So I'm like 57 now, it's absolutely fucking killing me.

• 17:00Angela Hartnett?

  So you do like 57 turns?

• 17:01Speaker 03

  57, I've got to do it.

• 17:02Angela Hartnett?

  I love that, I think that's brilliant.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  And all the ages going, because it's just some weird sort of hex of the wireless.

• 17:07Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, okay, right.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  And so we do that and then it's left and I feed it the brandy up until Christmas 23rd and then I ice it.

• 17:16Angela Hartnett?

  Very nice.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  And it's nice and the longer you leave it, the better it gets. And that's from a very old Mary Berry book, the rest, the original recipe.

• 17:24Angela Hartnett?

  The original, yeah.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  So it's all, you know, it's sort of fanny crackery in a way that it's very rich.

• 17:28Nick Grimshaw?

  I love that you get excited about the seasons, like I really do as well. Take us back to like now, this sort of time, we're, you know, approaching Halloween time, this, this feels like a cozy time, I'd say it's my favourite three months.

• 17:41Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, yeah, I agree.

• 17:42Speaker 03

  Absolutely, yeah, I used to be excited by August because it was my birthday and now it's.

• 17:46Nick Grimshaw?

  Mine too, Reece.

• 17:47Speaker 03

  Is he really?

• 17:48Nick Grimshaw?

  What, what date is it?

• 17:49Speaker 03

  27.

• 17:49Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, mine's 14, but I used to be excited by August and less so now.

• 17:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely, less so, same, we're the same.

• 17:56Nick Grimshaw?

  We're still the same.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  We're still the same, god, we're still the same. But what's exciting now about August is it's nearly September.

• 18:02Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 18:02Speaker 03

  And then therefore it's nearly Halloween.

• 18:04Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 18:04Speaker 03

  So, yeah, I know you're leaping a few months, but into the, the autumnal run-up is fantastic for me, because you get, you get, obviously you get Halloween, then you get November 5th, bonfire night, and then finally of course the literal cake, Christmas Day.

• 18:18Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 18:18Speaker 03

  And even New Year, and then I've started to add in Burns Night.

• 18:21Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, keep it rolling.

• 18:23Speaker 03

  So it never, never stop with the arches in the sand, they're just making me live another year.

• 18:28Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:30Speaker 03

  Oh, I've got Robbie Burns Night, I better not just die on December 4th.

• 18:34Angela Hartnett?

  Then you've got Easter, yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  And then you've got Easter and then you get into the Spring Lambs.

• 18:37Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, of course.

• 18:40Angela Hartnett?

  I want to just live next to Robbie, Reece.

• 18:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's how the year works, yeah. So, yeah, I'm into all the, and it's just nice to think, you know, you are doing something, it's like the, it's almost like the educational calendar, isn't it?

• 18:52Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 18:53Speaker 03

  Fun that you're doing a freeze of the Easter Bunny.

• 18:57Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:57Speaker 03

  And it's a shame that you lose that in your adult life, but you don't have to.

• 19:01Nick Grimshaw?

  You don't have to, I always love these things, and I think like these things, like, and food markers, that they're like the cozy, like reminder communal things.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  Absolutely, yeah, so as we approach Halloween, I get ready to make my brilliant pumpkin, pumpkin cake.

• 19:17Angela Hartnett?

  Okay, cake or pie?

• 19:18Speaker 03

  Pie, pie, pie. It's not that good, I don't even know what I call it. Pumpkin pie, yes.

• 19:24Angela Hartnett?

  So pastry underneath?

• 19:25Speaker 03

  Pastry underneath, yeah, and very sweet, but proper pumpkin and cream, it's quite rich.

• 19:33Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  And then, you know, I've slightly slalomed away from the Thanksgiving, I could do that as well, couldn't I?

• 19:41Nick Grimshaw?

  You could do that.

• 19:41Speaker 03

  That feels like a cheat to Christmas.

• 19:43Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, cultural appropriation, many years ago.

• 19:45Speaker 03

  That's what I was thinking, that was nice.

• 19:46Nick Grimshaw?

  Well, one of my best friends is American, a street away, she does it, so, yeah, we jump on that bandwagon for another reason to live.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  The sweet potato with the marshmallows?

• 19:57Nick Grimshaw?

  And I love that, I really love it, because I've got family in America, my auntie, my uncle, and then obviously like all their, you know, partners and their kids are my cousins, so we've been for Thanksgiving before.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:09Nick Grimshaw?

  And I remember my dad hating it.

• 20:11Angela Hartnett?

  Hmm, why?

• 20:12Nick Grimshaw?

  Because, because it was like marshmallow on a potato.

• 20:14Angela Hartnett?

  It's sweet on everything, it's sweet.

• 20:16Nick Grimshaw?

  And he's like, what them fucking pisses garbage?

• 20:19Speaker 03

  He skirts around what he really thinks about.

• 20:22Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, very shy man.

• 20:23Angela Hartnett?

  He's very shy, yeah.

• 20:24Nick Grimshaw?

  Very shy man, yeah. Well, we're gonna have something seasonal today because we're having trout and croute.

• 20:29Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 20:30Nick Grimshaw?

  And you tend to have that on New Year's Eve.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  New Year's Eve, the Wellington.

• 20:35Nick Grimshaw?

  The Wellington, yes.

• 20:37Speaker 03

  I've always done it. We've done it for many years. A Nigel Slater originally.

• 20:41Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, Nigel. That would be a great recipe, yeah.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  The lovely thing about it is, aside from the Wellington itself, is the stuffing, which is a cucumber stuffing with dill and honey and loads of Dijon mustard.

• 20:53Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, wow.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  And it's really biting and it's lovely. It really goes with the salmon.

• 20:57Nick Grimshaw?

  Mmm.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  So, and weirdly, it's become this tradition that we make it every New Year's Eve, lunchtime. So that's our final meal of the year, a big one, is that.

• 21:08Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, lovely.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  So I'll be excited to have your version.

• 21:11Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, wrongly. Oh, God, look at that pressure.

• 21:13Speaker 03

  Yes, I know.

• 21:14Angela Hartnett?

  The Bake Off winner.

• 21:15Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, the Bake Off winner, by Nigel Slater.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 21:19Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:19Nick Grimshaw?

  No pressure.

• 21:20Speaker 03

  And I always see him at Chelsea Flower Show and I always say, we're still making your Wellington.

• 21:24Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, yeah, nice, yeah.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  And he graciously smiles and goes, who is that?

• 21:30Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you think Nigel has come on?

• 21:31Speaker 03

  Nigel, Nigel.

• 21:32Nick Grimshaw?

  Nigel.

• 21:33Speaker 03

  Nigel, I make you one again.

• 21:37Speaker 03

  I'll do it again this year.

• 21:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, I love Nigel.

• 21:41Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, we all love Nigel.

• 21:42Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you think Nigel has come on?

• 21:43Speaker 03

  No.

• 21:44Nick Grimshaw?

  I don't think he would, no. I think he's quite a... He's like David Bowie or something.

• 21:48Speaker 03

  He is, he looks it.

• 21:50Nick Grimshaw?

  Has he been to Marano?

• 21:51Angela Hartnett?

  No, he's been to Merchants. When we ran Merchants Tavern, he came in, he was eating meals, oxtreaks and stuff, and he loves food, he loves eating. And I remember chatting to him and I said, oh, Nigel, you must come out. He goes, oh, I don't know, I go out to dinner at people's houses.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  Really? It's interesting.

• 22:04Angela Hartnett?

  I was like, oh, okay, Nigel.

• 22:05Nick Grimshaw?

  I don't go out to dinner at people's houses. Well, we had Bob Mortimer on, your friend Bob Mortimer. Just in case you didn't know who that was.

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know, I know.

• 22:13Nick Grimshaw?

  Your friend Bob Mortimer.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:15Nick Grimshaw?

  He's on the telly, you know. And he actually said he doesn't like to go to people's houses for dinner. Didn't he? He said he looked like a dinner partner.

• 22:21Speaker 03

  He very rarely goes anywhere, literally anywhere.

• 22:24Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, he stays in.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, he stays in, watches telly.

• 22:26Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  Finds himself too busy watching telly that night.

• 22:29Nick Grimshaw?

  Have you had him round for dinner as he made it to you?

• 22:31Speaker 03

  No, of course.

• 22:32Nick Grimshaw?

  He won't do it.

• 22:33Speaker 03

  He won't do it. We go, we meet, me and him and Matt Berry, we meet for meals.

• 22:37Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 22:38Speaker 03

  And it's the few times I think Bob does go out in a year and we talk, we have our gossip club.

• 22:43Angela Hartnett?

  Right, okay.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  Which is where we just chat about people that we find themselves at the lucky table.

• 22:49Angela Hartnett?

  Oh.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  And don't really deserve it.

• 22:51Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh.

• 22:53Angela Hartnett?

  I would love to hear that one. That would be brilliant.

• 22:56Speaker 03

  I know you would. We've had people from the... Do you want to make a programme of it? Are you kidding?

• 23:01Nick Grimshaw?

  No.

• 23:02Speaker 03

  Nothing that we say can be said.

• 23:04Nick Grimshaw?

  It's the gossip club. Where would you go for a gossip club?

• 23:07Speaker 03

  We would do a nice...

• 23:08Angela Hartnett?

  Come to Marano next time, yeah. I'll be wandering around, stirring.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  That under the table?

• 23:13Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, yeah. Come here.

• 23:15Speaker 03

  No, Bob usually picks it.

• 23:18Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's really nice. It's funny, it's just a laugh, you know.

• 23:20Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 23:21Speaker 03

  And it's nice with them too. They're very funny people.

• 23:23Nick Grimshaw?

  We had a great time with Bob on here.

• 23:24Speaker 03

  It was a good day.

• 23:25Nick Grimshaw?

  We loved him. We did, we did, we did. Now, not really any dislikes, Reece. Just nothing too spicy.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Interesting, yeah. But not like, ooh, I can't bear it.

• 23:34Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  I'm not, anything like that, really.

• 23:36Nick Grimshaw?

  No, I'm the same. I think Angela, you're the same, aren't you? There's nothing that you...

• 23:39Angela Hartnett?

  No.

• 23:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Can't handle. You told us about a couple of food loves that raised an eyebrow amongst the dish team.

• 23:45Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 23:46Nick Grimshaw?

  I love it as well. Don't worry, black pudding.

• 23:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know it's...

• 23:50Nick Grimshaw?

  I love black pudding.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  I do, yeah. And weirdly, we go to Cornwall every year and we stop at a particular restaurant and we have breakfast on our way.

• 23:59Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  And they stop doing black pudding.

• 24:02Nick Grimshaw?

  Why?

• 24:02Speaker 03

  Because it's really bad for you.

• 24:04Nick Grimshaw?

  Is it really?

• 24:05Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 24:06Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, it can't be.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  I guess, but I just love it. I think it's... And then I heard it's like a superfood.

• 24:12Nick Grimshaw?

  Well, it sounds like it would be.

• 24:13Speaker 03

  Is black pudding a superfood?

• 24:14Angela Hartnett?

  I haven't heard. But it's full of protein, so why wouldn't it be?

• 24:19Speaker 03

  I mean, it sort of makes sense in a beetroot way, to me.

• 24:22Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Maybe that's just it's blood and red.

• 24:24Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah. Do you like it when it's quite a bit crummy, if you know what I mean?

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Yes, I do know what you mean, yeah. And that is good. And I like it when the... Is it black plastic?

• 24:33Nick Grimshaw?

  Plastic.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  It's still on it.

• 24:34Nick Grimshaw?

  Maybe that it's fried in plastic. Yeah, when the plastic's still on it.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. And that becomes almost like it's fried as well and you think, well, I may as well eat that as well.

• 24:42Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  I'll have that as well, yeah.

• 24:44Nick Grimshaw?

  Maybe that's why it's bad, yeah.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe that's what it's bad about.

• 24:47Nick Grimshaw?

  And you also used to love a fried egg sandwich with peanut butter and jam.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 24:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Now that's...

• 24:54Speaker 03

  Is that unusual? It's an American-y thing, isn't it? Peanut butter and jello.

• 24:58Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, but not with an egg.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  Never mind the egg.

• 25:00Nick Grimshaw?

  Right, so peanut butter and jelly, yes.

• 25:03Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 25:04Nick Grimshaw?

  I used to want that as a kid because I thought it was so glamorous and American.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  In like, sort of Charlie Brown, wasn't it?

• 25:08Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you do a fried egg in it.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  Then I do fried egg on it, yes, in it.

• 25:13Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  In it or on it.

• 25:14Nick Grimshaw?

  On it, yeah.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:15Nick Grimshaw?

  And is that...

• 25:16Speaker 03

  And I used to love it. I mean, I've not had it for a long time, might be vile now, but the thought of jam, peanut butter and an egg on top.

• 25:22Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. I used to love it. It was a real treat to make it for myself.

• 25:27Nick Grimshaw?

  Would that work it for you, Angela?

• 25:28Angela Hartnett?

  What's that?

• 25:29Nick Grimshaw?

  Egg, peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

• 25:31Angela Hartnett?

  Egg and peanut butter.

• 25:33Nick Grimshaw?

  Egg and peanut butter.

• 25:34Angela Hartnett?

  I'm not so sure about the jelly.

• 25:35Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 25:41Nick Grimshaw?

  Well, Nigel Slater said...

• 25:43Angela Hartnett?

  See, I don't have a sweet tooth at all.

• 25:45Speaker 03

  Okay, well, that's interesting, yeah. I just, I don't know why.

• 25:48Nick Grimshaw?

  I mean, I've never had... I'd be...

• 25:50Angela Hartnett?

  I'd give it a go.

• 25:51Nick Grimshaw?

  We'd give it a go. Why don't we make it one day?

• 25:55Speaker 03

  Try it one day.

• 25:56Angela Hartnett?

  Try it.

• 25:57Speaker 03

  You might discover a new sensation in your mouth.

• 26:03Nick Grimshaw?

  Food is here, Angela.

• 26:04Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 26:05Nick Grimshaw?

  Tell us what we've got today. Trout on croute for us.

• 26:08Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 26:08Nick Grimshaw?

  Salmon on croute for Reece.

• 26:10Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, indeed.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  Very good. How exciting.

• 26:12Angela Hartnett?

  Well, it's a Martha Collison recipe.

• 26:14Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 26:14Angela Hartnett?

  And we basically cured the salmon trout the night before. So with salt, sugar, lemon zest, put all that in a bowl and then basically put that all over the salmon and just cure it overnight. So in a fridge with weight pressed down on it, you know, so you cover it so that basically all that... Yeah, so it doesn't submerge, but all its natural sort of juices and bits will come out.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  There's already much more time and commitment to it than I do. Anything in the recipe where it says leave overnight, I think I'm out.

• 26:39Angela Hartnett?

  You're out. Oh, yeah.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Can't be doing this.

• 26:42Nick Grimshaw?

  Especially festive time.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, I haven't got time for that.

• 26:44Nick Grimshaw?

  I haven't got time for that. But do you think we should do that?

• 26:47Angela Hartnett?

  I think you do, because it cures it, because it also tightens it lightly, you know, it seasons it and it tightens it as well.

• 26:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Okay, we'll do it.

• 26:53Angela Hartnett?

  Once you've cured it overnight, the next morning, wipe it dry. And then in a mortar and pestle or a grinder, you place your garlic, coriander, parsley, blend all those together.

• 27:02Nick Grimshaw?

  Wow.

• 27:03Angela Hartnett?

  Mix in your preserved lemons, you've got cumin, olive oil and chili flakes and you blend this all up together to form this lovely sort of green paste.

• 27:11Nick Grimshaw?

  Wow.

• 27:11Angela Hartnett?

  And then finally you add some chopped spinach, mascarpone and lemon juice.

• 27:15Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh.

• 27:15Angela Hartnett?

  And so that then sticks the, basically your two pieces of trout or salmon together. And then you wrap it all up in your puff pastry, make your lattice, egg wash it and then you cook it in the oven for about 35 to 40 minutes.

• 27:28Nick Grimshaw?

  Mmm.

• 27:29Speaker 03

  It's delicious.

• 27:30Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, well, thank you.

• 27:31Nick Grimshaw?

  It's really delicious, Angela.

• 27:32Angela Hartnett?

  And we have a wine to go with this.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  Oh, my goodness.

• 27:35Angela Hartnett?

  Which I've poured for you there.

• 27:37Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, yes, thank you, Angela.

• 27:38Angela Hartnett?

  An oak Chardonnay we are drinking today.

• 27:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, yes.

• 27:41Angela Hartnett?

  There you go. So try that with your salmon.

• 27:42Nick Grimshaw?

  Delicious. Thank you, Angela. If you want to try this at home, all the ingredients and the recipe, waitrose.com/dishrecipes.

• 27:50Speaker 03

  Very nice.

• 27:51Nick Grimshaw?

  And also Angela's done a video showing you how to do this.

• 27:56Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece, you have your book coming out, Things I Took From The Dark, The Museum Of Me, which is gonna be out on October the 8th.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's so weird to hear people say that, yes.

• 28:06Nick Grimshaw?

  Is it really?

• 28:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:07Nick Grimshaw?

  How, because a book, you know, you have to go way back to do a book.

• 28:11Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 28:12Nick Grimshaw?

  You know, when did you start thinking about this? When did you write it and when did you hand it in?

• 28:16Speaker 03

  I was writing it from about October last year.

• 28:20Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  So it's been like nearly a year in the making. But yeah, they approached me, said, did I want to do something? And I was like, well, that's a lot of work. And I woke up this morning and I didn't have that on my plate.

• 28:32Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  If I say yes, suddenly there's all that work in my life. So I thought I'm definitely gonna say no to that. Then I thought, I want the book. Whatever it is, though, I want it.

• 28:42Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  And to have it, I had to do it.

• 28:45Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 28:45Speaker 03

  See, my big...

• 28:46Nick Grimshaw?

  Good book, that. I'm gonna have to write it.

• 28:49Speaker 03

  Yeah. So then I thought, well, what would it be? What am I gonna spend all this time doing? I have to enjoy it.

• 28:56Angela Hartnett?

  Mmm.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  Because I find writing hard anyway. It's like homework to me, writing scripts. So this was like enforced, what is this? Why? And also, I have a thing in my head always, in situations like this even, who cares what you think? You know, there's a little voice in my head that's just saying, we don't care what any of your opinions are. So this was like putting yourself out there and pontificating about something because it would be a book and it'd be my thoughts. So I felt it was quite exposing to do it, but I just thought, I like horror.

• 29:28Speaker 03

  And I've been known over the last few years that I, I think people know that I collect weird things and props from old films and things from my stuff and old magic. And I thought, well, maybe there's something in the book being a museum of these items.

• 29:45Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 29:45Speaker 03

  And so I sort of expanded it into real world, strange stories. So it's a bit like, I don't know if you remember Arthur C Clarke's Mysterious World, this was this man that used to go around looking at the world's mysteries.

• 29:57Angela Hartnett?

  Okay.

• 29:57Speaker 03

  And I'm like the new Arthur C Clarke. So I...

• 30:00Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, brilliant.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  I've opened the doors to this museum and I take you through four rooms, ghosts, monsters, the devil and earthbound curiosities. And I talk about them all and what might be the reality behind the unexplainedness. However, along the way, it sort of becomes a memoir. It becomes a little bit about why all these stories have stayed with me.

• 30:23Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:24Speaker 03

  And shaped what I do now, which is pedal horror things.

• 30:27Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  You come on things and talk about Halloween all the time.

• 30:31Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:31Nick Grimshaw?

  And did you always have an interest in horror from a young age? Did it start early?

• 30:37Speaker 03

  I grew up in Hull, so yes.

• 30:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  The strangeness of things. Yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  Was on the plate from the logo. But yeah, I remember loving, being a quite shy kid and being in and reading Edgar Allan Poe and Stephen King and not.

• 30:54Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  And who got you into it? My mum coming in and going, they're all outside, they're asking for you to play.

• 30:59Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  I'm reading Edgar Allan Poe.

• 31:02Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh my god, amazing. Amazing.

• 31:04Speaker 03

  So, and who got me into it? I think my mum, I think my mum.

• 31:07Nick Grimshaw?

  Your mum?

• 31:08Speaker 03

  She loved horror.

• 31:09Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  And she let me watch it much younger than I should have done. So it was a, yeah, a passion that's just stayed with me and I'm very fortunate to think I sort of do versions of it in my work now that I just have loved and I'm repurposing and pretending it's my own. It's plagiarism.

• 31:26Nick Grimshaw?

  No, it's not, it's not, it's not at all.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  A love of vision.

• 31:30Angela Hartnett?

  And it's your, your partner into it and the kids and stuff?

• 31:33Speaker 03

  Hate it.

• 31:34Angela Hartnett?

  They hate it. So this is just you in watching it.

• 31:36Speaker 03

  It's my lone passion.

• 31:38Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 31:39Speaker 03

  So it's all upstairs, hidden away behind a door that's a bookcase.

• 31:44Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  So it's like, it looks like it's a bookcase. Press it and then you go in. What do you mean?

• 31:52Angela Hartnett?

  Children don't go up that stairs.

• 31:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, so I was gonna say, is there anything in the house that's out or not much?

• 31:57Speaker 03

  No, it's all there behind, behind doors, yeah. When the kids left, I brought some things down, but then Jane said, don't have that in here. People come in and it's like, what's that? Oh, it's my own head, severed head from.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  What's wrong with that? Yeah, yeah, so I've got a different threshold to everybody else about what is acceptable, I think.

• 32:17Angela Hartnett?

  Hmm, yeah.

• 32:18Nick Grimshaw?

  There are some amazing curiosities in the museum. There really is. There's the beast of Bob Minmore.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:23Nick Grimshaw?

  We were there last year.

• 32:24Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, yes, we were.

• 32:25Nick Grimshaw?

  Yes.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  Really?

• 32:26Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, Bob Min.

• 32:27Speaker 03

  Did you see it?

• 32:27Nick Grimshaw?

  No.

• 32:28Speaker 03

  No.

• 32:28Nick Grimshaw?

  What is it?

• 32:29Angela Hartnett?

  That was frightening.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  It's the giant cat.

• 32:31Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, big cat.

• 32:32Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 32:32Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, okay, maybe I did. There's Krampus and the talking mongoose.

• 32:35Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah.

• 32:37Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you have a favourite curiosity?

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Well, I think you've hit upon it. I think the talking mongoose, there was a, on the Isle of Man, there was this family that started to be plagued by a talking mongoose that called itself Gef. It's pronounced, it's spelt G E F and some people said Jeff, but I think it's creepy to call it Gef.

• 32:55Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, Gef.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  So I've always called it Gef.

• 32:57Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  Too mundane, it's like, Dave or something.

• 33:01Nick Grimshaw?

  Not Dave.

• 33:02Angela Hartnett?

  That's not scary enough, is it?

• 33:04Speaker 03

  No, but Gef.

• 33:05Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, Gef.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  Quite creepy. And the first encounter with it, it bit one of them and then in perfect clipped English said, put oink on the bone. It sounds like Chris Eubank's.

• 33:21Speaker 03

  Might have been him, might have been him.

• 33:23Nick Grimshaw?

  It's just Chris Eubank.

• 33:25Speaker 03

  It's Chris Eubank.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  It's just Chris Eubank in the walls again.

• 33:28Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, it's Chris Eubank.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  So then he began to ride the buses on the Isle of Man. Everyone got an encounter with Gef.

• 33:36Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 33:36Speaker 03

  He even got to Parliament, there were talks of it.

• 33:38Angela Hartnett?

  Really?

• 33:39Speaker 03

  And then in the end, the people sold the farm and the new owner shot something on his land and they think that was Gef and that was it.

• 33:48Nick Grimshaw?

  That was Gef.

• 33:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. So that was a great, strange story. That was fun as well. It's like, it's not, it is a bit creepy, but it's not. And my first encounter with it actually was in a book from school that was, it's the Usborne Book of Ghosts and it had it. And these people will remember these books. There was one about ghosts, one about dinosaurs and one about monsters, I think. And it was my first encounter with the supernatural. And it was all written as if it was like a textbook, the way it was all real. It was like, place a penny on this, on a grave at midnight and the ghost of the person in the grave will, the hand will raise and take the penny. And when you dance three times around the grave. And it was like, it wasn't like this is a fable, it was like, that is fact.

• 34:26Nick Grimshaw?

  That will happen.

• 34:27Speaker 03

  Go and do it.

• 34:28Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  So I've not yet, I've not done it.

• 34:29Nick Grimshaw?

  Well, we'll do it when we wrap.

• 34:30Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, we'll do it, yeah.

• 34:32Nick Grimshaw?

  Now, the book begins with you telling us a story about trying to catch bats.

• 34:37Speaker 03

  Hmm, yes. From the age of about seven to about seventeen.

• 34:41Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 34:42Speaker 03

  I was.

• 34:42Nick Grimshaw?

  You can say fifty-seven.

• 34:43Speaker 03

  Fifty-seven. I spent most evenings at the end of our garden with one of my dad's fishing nets, trying to catch bats. Because they would be fluttering by, we lived right next to my school.

• 34:56Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 34:56Speaker 03

  There was all these trees and there were bats every, you know, as it got dusk. And I just spent about nine years of my life trying to catch one and never quite realising, of course, that it was almost as if they, they knew somehow.

• 35:07Nick Grimshaw?

  They had some sort of ultra.

• 35:09Speaker 03

  Some sort of ultrasonic.

• 35:10Nick Grimshaw?

  Ultrasonic pulse or something, yeah.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  That was allowing me to not catch them.

• 35:13Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh my god.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  You would have thought maybe one of the adults would have told me that.

• 35:17Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, you'd have thought, they were just loving the fact you're out there.

• 35:20Speaker 03

  We know where it is, it's on the first.

• 35:21Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can watch it, we don't have to watch the horror now, he's out in the back garden.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  Post at the end of the garden with a net.

• 35:26Angela Hartnett?

  Oh.

• 35:28Speaker 03

  That was my childhood.

• 35:29Nick Grimshaw?

  Never happens.

• 35:30Angela Hartnett?

  Never.

• 35:30Speaker 03

  And it never happened, I never got one.

• 35:34Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece, you met your wife in a spooky situation as well?

• 35:38Speaker 03

  In a coffin.

• 35:39Angela Hartnett?

  Oh.

• 35:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Right.

• 35:41Speaker 03

  We were touring in a play in Germany. And we were, we were playing vampires. And it was called Neighbours with Long Teeth. It was a schools thing, you went around schools in Germany, teaching English essentially. But the story was about acceptance and there was sort of like vampire neighbours and the people, the man, the person next door didn't like them. So it was me meeting the vampire Filthia, that was her name, and that was Jane, she was playing the vampire. And we had a bit where we're in a coffin, so we, and we just got very close in that coffin and the next thing is, I married it.

• 36:13Angela Hartnett?

  You married it?

• 36:15Nick Grimshaw?

  Coffin girl. Have you been in a coffin?

• 36:18Speaker 03

  No.

• 36:18Nick Grimshaw?

  I've been in a coffin.

• 36:19Speaker 03

  Have you?

• 36:20Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 36:20Angela Hartnett?

  Was it scary?

• 36:21Nick Grimshaw?

  For, it was something to do with like the Edinburgh Festival.

• 36:25Angela Hartnett?

  Right.

• 36:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 36:26Nick Grimshaw?

  It was quite nice, comfy.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  Calming.

• 36:28Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, very calming actually, yeah.

• 36:30Angela Hartnett?

  That is my fear.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  Buried alive.

• 36:33Nick Grimshaw?

  Buried alive.

• 36:34Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 36:35Speaker 03

  We've got stuff in the book about buried alive. It happened all the time in Victorian times because of the catatonic side effects of things like malaria and cholera.

• 36:44Nick Grimshaw?

  And they'd pass out, think they're dead.

• 36:46Speaker 03

  Pass out, 12 hours later, you're in a coffin, you wake up.

• 36:48Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh no.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  I'm not dead!

• 36:50Angela Hartnett?

  Oh god, yeah, no. And then even now, thinking about it, yes.

• 36:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Well, we won't do it, that was the end of the show question.

• 36:56Speaker 03

  We won't do it.

• 36:57Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, we won't do it.

• 36:58Angela Hartnett?

  Buried alive.

• 36:59Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, we won't do it, we won't do it. And then you went on to a quite a witchy wedding, are we saying witchy wedding?

• 37:05Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, we did, yeah.

• 37:06Angela Hartnett?

  Spooky.

• 37:08Speaker 03

  We had a sort of pagan-like wedding in Iget Woods, yeah, we had a little candlelit procession.

• 37:13Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, fab.

• 37:14Speaker 03

  And we did the vows in the woods, yeah, in the dark. It was very, very quick, we didn't, some people proposed and then it's the years before they do the thing. We, I proposed in October and we were married in February.

• 37:26Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh yeah, that's good, get it over with. That's what we intended to do.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  And how long has it been now, 10 years?

• 37:32Angela Hartnett?

  Long as I've been here.

• 37:33Nick Grimshaw?

  Four and a bit, four and a half.

• 37:34Speaker 03

  Why is it? Because you, this mythical idea of this day, you can't face it.

• 37:38Nick Grimshaw?

  I think we've just, we forgot and then we go, oh, we, no, genuinely, we forget and then we go, oh shit, we should do it. We actually went to a few weddings this summer and we talked, like, we were like, oh, we actually need to go.

• 37:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:49Angela Hartnett?

  That's a bit out.

• 37:50Nick Grimshaw?

  But do you like the idea of a wintery one?

• 37:52Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 37:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Like a spooky one.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 37:55Angela Hartnett?

  I went to a great winter wedding when he came out of the church and it was mulled cider.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  Oh, nice.

• 37:59Angela Hartnett?

  That was a lovely time.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  Nice, I mean, that's another great thing of the season.

• 38:03Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, this is my favourite time of year, actually.

• 38:06Nick Grimshaw?

  We love it, don't we?

• 38:07Angela Hartnett?

  Love it.

• 38:10Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece Shearsmith, it is time for your fast food quiz. Shall we do this?

• 38:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 38:14Nick Grimshaw?

  Tell us, please, quick fire, your favourite way to eat eggs?

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Um, boiled.

• 38:19Angela Hartnett?

  Favourite sandwich filling?

• 38:20Speaker 03

  Jam.

• 38:21Nick Grimshaw?

  What's your favourite form of potato?

• 38:23Speaker 03

  Oh, roastie.

• 38:24Angela Hartnett?

  What's your favourite crisp?

• 38:26Speaker 03

  Oh, cheese and onion.

• 38:28Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you have a favourite fruit?

• 38:29Speaker 03

  Banana. It's a fruit, isn't it?

• 38:31Nick Grimshaw?

  It is, yeah, she is.

• 38:33Angela Hartnett?

  What's your favourite chocolate bar?

• 38:35Speaker 03

  Ripple.

• 38:36Angela Hartnett?

  Ripple. Oh, I haven't had that one.

• 38:38Nick Grimshaw?

  Kitchen utensil?

• 38:40Speaker 03

  Oh, garlic crusher.

• 38:42Angela Hartnett?

  Okay, favourite Sunday roast?

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Oh, chicken.

• 38:45Nick Grimshaw?

  What's the best pasta?

• 38:46Speaker 03

  Oh, fusilli. Now, change your mind.

• 38:50Nick Grimshaw?

  Yes.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  Tagliatelle.

• 38:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Hmm, they're all good.

• 38:54Speaker 03

  No, what's the linguine?

• 38:55Nick Grimshaw?

  Linguine.

• 38:57Speaker 03

  That's my answer.

• 38:58Nick Grimshaw?

  That's the one.

• 38:58Speaker 03

  Final answer.

• 38:59Angela Hartnett?

  And favourite ice cream?

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Oh, salted caramel.

• 39:03Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, very nice.

• 39:04Nick Grimshaw?

  You've won.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  Have I?

• 39:07Nick Grimshaw?

  You've done it, you've won.

• 39:08Speaker 03

  I've won it.

• 39:09Nick Grimshaw?

  Done it.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  Brilliant.

• 39:12Nick Grimshaw?

  Now, we should talk about Inside Number Nine, because there's so many passionate fans of you for that show. Many in this room.

• 39:20Angela Hartnett?

  Hmm.

• 39:21Nick Grimshaw?

  Many have been telling you before you joined us when they came to see it. And you went to the stage for, what, a year?

• 39:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, nearly, yes, we did it three months in the Wyndham's and live stage version of it. We always thought we would because it's quite theatrical. And then we toured it, yeah, we didn't think we would tour it, but we did and it was great and it was lovely actually to, Ian McKellen said it's really important that you're touring this, he was really pleased that we took it to the regions, not, not London-centric. And people loved it that we made that effort and came to see it. And it was good, it was, it was everything we wanted it to be, it was like a creepy night, but funny, scary and properly theatrical, you know, we embraced that. And it was so, you never get a sense of anyone watching your thing until you do that. You know, we did League of Gentlemen finally on stage after years of doing it on TV and it was like, oh, they know it.

• 40:10Speaker 03

  You know, that's when you get the proper people that have come out in dresses, your characters.

• 40:15Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  And you go, wow, they're, there's such a wave of love for it.

• 40:18Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  It's the one time you get actually an awareness of it, not just putting it out as content, you know. So it was very lovely, yeah.

• 40:25Nick Grimshaw?

  I read somewhere that you thought that it wouldn't make it like past the first series Inside Number Nine, there was, or there was a worry about it being a success or?

• 40:34Speaker 03

  There was, yeah, I mean, it was something pitched at the time when there was a lot of resistance to one-off stories on telly. Everything is the box set and a continuing story. And a reason to return to your thing. And we were like, it's just gonna be like Tales of the Unexpected. Each week's a different thing. So it was a surprise to us that they even went for it first time round. And then 10 years later, we got nine series out of it. And we were the ones that chose to stop it at series nine. We thought poetically, let's just end it. Series nine, we've got there. Let's leave it. And because the bar was high, we were always fans of it ourselves. And we didn't want to, you know, when you start to see something slightly unraveling. I used to like it, but they should stop this now. We didn't want anyone to say that about it.

• 41:18Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, sure.

• 41:19Speaker 03

  Fifty-five we did in the end, different stories every week, you know.

• 41:22Angela Hartnett?

  That's a lot.

• 41:23Speaker 03

  And it's a lot of ideas to come out, to come up with.

• 41:26Nick Grimshaw?

  I loved it. It's so good.

• 41:28Angela Hartnett?

  And do you still get fans coming up wishing you'd done more?

• 41:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, when is it coming back? And please do it again.

• 41:34Nick Grimshaw?

  Again, everyone in this room.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. So we might come back if that happens for a special.

• 41:39Nick Grimshaw?

  Would you?

• 41:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Come on.

• 41:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, we regret it now that we've stopped it.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  We've got all the thing, we are planning on working.

• 41:48Nick Grimshaw?

  But when you did the live show, the list of people that came on. Yes. A guest come on every night, like a celebrity guest every night. Many of our Dish favourites.

• 41:58Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 41:59Nick Grimshaw?

  The list is ridiculous. Nick Mohammed, David Harwood, Sue Perkins, Dara O'Brien, Amelia Fox, Lenny Henry, Rob Brydon, Bob Mortimer, your friend, he's the one off the telly. Ramesh, Stephen Fry, Simon Pegg. I mean, who do you think was your most memorable guest? Or is that too hard a question?

• 42:15Speaker 03

  It is hard, of course, with that list.

• 42:17Nick Grimshaw?

  Or who was like the biggest liability?

• 42:21Speaker 03

  Oh, it was hard. There were some ones that were completely out of control. Bob did it, he was great. Sue Pollard was a handful.

• 42:28Angela Hartnett?

  Right.

• 42:28Speaker 03

  She was like, oh, I don't know. And the other one who was sort of a minx and very uncontrollable, Debbie McGee.

• 42:37Angela Hartnett?

  Debbie McGee, a minx.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  Funny, yes, it was great. She was really good. She's like, you didn't think I was gonna do what you told me, did you? Yes, we did.

• 42:45Nick Grimshaw?

  We did, Debbie.

• 42:46Speaker 03

  We need you.

• 42:48Nick Grimshaw?

  It's live.

• 42:50Speaker 03

  So it was spot on, yeah.

• 42:51Angela Hartnett?

  Funny, Debbie, love that.

• 42:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, Steve had a funny line. Is it true that your husband used to split you in two every night?

• 43:03Speaker 03

  So it was great, yeah. And Ian McKellen was a great one. We wanted him in the TV forever.

• 43:09Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  And he could never do it. Or he didn't, I don't think he likes horror much, actually. So he was a bit reticent. But he did the live thing and it was, we sort of finally got him.

• 43:16Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  And he was great.

• 43:18Angela Hartnett?

  I mean, that's someone to get.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:20Angela Hartnett?

  Amazing.

• 43:21Nick Grimshaw?

  He was quite good on the stage, isn't he?

• 43:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:24Angela Hartnett?

  I didn't know, but he'd done the.

• 43:27Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, he did a few bits on there, yeah. And you and Steve, you've been friends for what, since like college days?

• 43:33Speaker 03

  I mean, is it nearly thirty, it must be thirty odd years.

• 43:36Nick Grimshaw?

  And do you remember your first meeting and what it was that made you guys?

• 43:41Speaker 03

  I see, I remember seeing him. He was in the year above me and I remember him and Mark Gatiss were in the same year.

• 43:45Angela Hartnett?

  Right.

• 43:46Speaker 03

  So they were like these people, they were doing their own stuff at college and writing comedy sketches. And they were already like, oh, right, these are people to watch. And I remember seeing Steve in a production of Taming of the Shrew when I was in the second year and he was in the third, I think. Or I was in the first and he was in the second. And he was stealing it with, he had an inhaler, a walking stick. He was just doing all these things that were very funny. I mean, terrible because he was pulling focus, completely upstaging everybody. But I thought that's what I wanna try and take.

• 44:16Nick Grimshaw?

  Try and do, yeah.

• 44:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I sort of got to know him and Mark. And then we all went our separate ways really after Bret and Hall, which is where we went. And then we came back to do some sketches for the Fringe. And then that became Edinburgh Show. And that was when the beginning of the League of Gentlemen, Jeremy as well.

• 44:33Nick Grimshaw?

  And when did League of Gentlemen go on the telly? Like, what year was that?

• 44:36Speaker 03

  Nineteen, we filmed it in nineteen ninety-eight. It was only ninety-nine, I think, or ninety-eight.

• 44:40Nick Grimshaw?

  I just remember it because our Andrew loved it, my brother loved it. And I remember thinking it was like the freakiest, maddest thing ever seen. Was it, because now looking back, like, I don't know, would someone as bonkers and as brilliant get on the telly? Was it a fight to get it on?

• 44:58Speaker 03

  I didn't realise it was so out there that people were going, it's like, there's nothing quite like this. And I thought, well, that's a good thing, yeah.

• 45:05Angela Hartnett?

  Of course.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  Now, I don't know whether it would be allowed to be on telly. I mean, it was so sure of itself because we'd done it so often on stage. It arrived fully formed and it was sort of like, you couldn't deny its sort of its own identity. And I think maybe now they'd be more cautious about trying to tick more boxes about what they think people want.

• 45:26Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  And we were just more left alone. It was undiluted.

• 45:30Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  I think in a way that was better for it.

• 45:32Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  People still show, are you local? We had, me and Steve had it one year, we were in Soho and someone said, sorry, are you local? And I went, yeah.

• 45:40Nick Grimshaw?

  Do you know the way to the Dominion Theatre?

• 45:44Speaker 03

  Oh, right, you really want to.

• 45:45Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, right, right, right, right.

• 45:48Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 45:49Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, sorry.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  I thought you meant that.

• 45:52Speaker 03

  I'm sorry. Yeah, he didn't know anything about that.

• 45:57Angela Hartnett?

  Brilliant.

• 46:00Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece, we come to the end of the show question.

• 46:02Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 46:03Nick Grimshaw?

  For your chance to win this Waitrose goodie bag here, as wheeled by Angela Hartnett herself.

• 46:08Speaker 03

  There's a pastor in there as well?

• 46:09Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah, that'd be linguine. And all you've got to do is answer the question in the golden envelope.

• 46:15Speaker 03

  So near, but so far, isn't it?

• 46:16Angela Hartnett?

  Take it away.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  Right, hi Reece, thank you for coming on to Dish, you're welcome, and getting us into the Halloween spirit.

• 46:22Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  Slightly mocking me, anyway. Paul, your chance to win the Waitrose goodie bag.

• 46:35Speaker 03

  We invite you to play a new game, it's not been played before and it's unlikely to be played again. The game is Pumpkin or Bat?

• 46:43Nick Grimshaw?

  It's a classic.

• 46:44Speaker 03

  Over to Nick and Andy to read out the instructions. Thank you, team Dish.

• 46:48Nick Grimshaw?

  Yes, you are welcome, Reece. All right, you ready for Pumpkin or Bat?

• 46:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think I'm not gonna be.

• 46:52Nick Grimshaw?

  They're about to commission this, I've heard.

• 46:53Speaker 03

  Right.

• 46:53Nick Grimshaw?

  Big, big show on Netflix. We have nine names, some are pumpkins, some are bats. Is it a pumpkin or is it a bat?

• 47:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 47:00Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah, so I'll start.

• 47:02Nick Grimshaw?

  Yeah.

• 47:02Angela Hartnett?

  Queensland Blue.

• 47:03Speaker 03

  It's got to be a pumpkin.

• 47:05Nick Grimshaw?

  That is correct.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Okay, great. How many is there, nine?

• 47:08Nick Grimshaw?

  A man, nine.

• 47:08Angela Hartnett?

  Yeah.

• 47:09Nick Grimshaw?

  It's an hour long segment.

• 47:11Speaker 03

  Right.

• 47:13Nick Grimshaw?

  The Honduran White.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  I say a bat.

• 47:16Nick Grimshaw?

  It's a bat.

• 47:17Angela Hartnett?

  Well done.

• 47:17Nick Grimshaw?

  Two nil.

• 47:18Angela Hartnett?

  Two nil.

• 47:19Nick Grimshaw?

  Two nil.

• 47:19Speaker 03

  Moonbeam.

• 47:20Angela Hartnett?

  Shaking.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  Moonbeam?

• 47:22Nick Grimshaw?

  Moonbeam.

• 47:23Angela Hartnett?

  Pumpkin or bat?

• 47:23Speaker 03

  I say pumpkin.

• 47:25Angela Hartnett?

  Correct.

• 47:26Speaker 03

  I know about these things.

• 47:28Nick Grimshaw?

  Okay, Jonathan.

• 47:33Speaker 03

  I say it's a pumpkin.

• 47:35Angela Hartnett?

  Yes.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  Is it?

• 47:36Nick Grimshaw?

  It's a pumpkin. Jonathan's a pumpkin.

• 47:39Speaker 03

  Jonathan is a pumpkin.

• 47:40Angela Hartnett?

  Okay, number five, Thumbless.

• 47:42Speaker 03

  It's a thumbless bat.

• 47:43Nick Grimshaw?

  It's a thumbless bat.

• 47:44Angela Hartnett?

  It is a thumbless bat.

• 47:45Nick Grimshaw?

  Five out of five, okay.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  I knew that.

• 47:47Nick Grimshaw?

  Okay, what about good old Smokey? Smokey?

• 47:51Speaker 03

  I'm saying it's a Smokey bat.

• 47:54Nick Grimshaw?

  It's a Smokey bat.

• 47:57Angela Hartnett?

  So number seven, Baby Bear, pumpkin or bat?

• 48:00Speaker 03

  Baby Bear. Baby Bear pumpkin.

• 48:03Angela Hartnett?

  Pumpkin.

• 48:04Nick Grimshaw?

  Correct. This is unbelievable. Two more to go.

• 48:07Angela Hartnett?

  Two more, let's.

• 48:08Nick Grimshaw?

  The Hammerhead, Hammerhead bat or Hammerhead pumpkin?

• 48:11Speaker 03

  It's in the book, it's a Hammerhead bat.

• 48:13Nick Grimshaw?

  It's in the book.

• 48:13Angela Hartnett?

  It's in the box.

• 48:16Speaker 03

  In the box.

• 48:16Angela Hartnett?

  And the final one, could it be nine out of nine?

• 48:19Nick Grimshaw?

  Come on.

• 48:19Angela Hartnett?

  The Great Round Leaf, pumpkin or bat?

• 48:24Speaker 03

  I say it's a pumpkin.

• 48:27Angela Hartnett?

  Oh, no.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  I say it's a bat.

• 48:37Nick Grimshaw?

  Oh, unbelievable.

• 48:41Nick Grimshaw?

  The goodie bag is yours, Reece.

• 48:43Angela Hartnett?

  It's one rate.

• 48:44Nick Grimshaw?

  It won the goodie bag.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  Legitimately.

• 48:45Angela Hartnett?

  Legitimately, yes.

• 48:47Nick Grimshaw?

  The goodie bag is yours. There's one pumpkin and one bat in there. It's delicious, bat and pumpkin risotto. Yeah.

• 48:58Nick Grimshaw?

  Reece, thank you so much.

• 49:00Angela Hartnett?

  Thank you so much.

• 49:00Nick Grimshaw?

  That was so fun. Thank you, Reece. A round of applause.

• 49:07Speaker 03

  Thank you, Reece.

• 49:11Nick Grimshaw?

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• 49:18Angela Hartnett?

  If you want to make any of the meals I cook on Dish, head to waitrose.com/dishrecipes for all the ingredients and the recipes.

• 49:27Nick Grimshaw?

  Email your questions, thoughts and suggestions too, [email protected].

• 49:33Angela Hartnett?

  Dish from Waitrose is a Cold Glass Production.

• 49:37Speaker 05

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