Pod Insights Baby, this is Keke Palmer Keith Lee on Fame, Family & Food Reviews About this episode Keith Lee can turn one bite into a viral moment, but today Keke gets to know the man behind his food reviews. The former MMA fighter turned TikTok food critic opens up about family, faith, marriage, and anxiety, and the real impact of the “Keith Lee effect.” He shares what fame feels like, how he stays grounded, and clears up major online reactions, including the infamous worm, plus a glimpse into FamiLee Day in New Orleans. Plus, we put Keith and Keke to the test in a blindfolded food game that will have you on the floor.
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0:00 Keke Palmer? Baby, let me tell you something. Today's guest has made a name for himself from the front seat of his car. One Keith Lee food review and your favorite restaurant is booked, sold out, and trending by morning. But behind the viral moments is a family man, a former MMA fighter, and a creator who's using his platform to help small businesses survive. From Forbes 30 Under 30 to the Time 100 and TikTok's Creator of the Year in 2025, Keith Lee is still a man of the people. So grab a snack and get comfortable. Because, baby, this is Keke Palmer.
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1:19 Keke Palmer? Okay, guys, please welcome the amazing, the awesome Keith Lee. What's up, man? Oh, I love this outfit.
1:27 Speaker 01 Thank you, likewise.
1:28 Keke Palmer? Period. And your hair is getting longer and longer. Thanks, boo.
1:33 Speaker 01 It's an honor to be here, man.
1:34 Keke Palmer? I'm so glad, because you know, last time I think you had got, it was like Atlanta was having a storm.
1:38 Speaker 01 Yeah. God don't make no mistakes.
1:41 Keke Palmer? Yeah, right. We good. We were safe. That's the main thing. Yeah.
1:43 Speaker 01 I went to the crib.
1:44 Keke Palmer? How's it being in LA? Do you like LA when you come?
1:47 Speaker 01 Uh, I do business here, so I come in and out. But I'm a, I'm a country boy, so I live in Dallas. Yeah, but you know, I'm from Detroit, so Midwest, country.
1:56 Keke Palmer? I'm from Illinois. Yep.
1:57 Speaker 01 That's why we get along.
1:58 Keke Palmer? Okay, period. Um, well, let's get into these pre-show pull-up questions, because I'm gonna get into your head just a little bit. So Zodiac sign is Libra. Do you relate to the Libra of it all? Do you feel like you're like balanced?
2:09 Speaker 01 I don't follow, I don't follow it enough. But I feel like my wife tells me every now and again that I am a Libra. She just told me today, because my mom-in-law is a Libra too.
2:17 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh.
2:18 Speaker 01 She was like, oh yeah, I'm both Libras. I don't know what that mean, but I'll take her word for it.
2:21 Keke Palmer? One thing I know about Libras that I feel like you do do is like, y'all have an aesthetic. Every Libra I know has a look.
2:26 Speaker 01 I can take that, yeah.
2:26 Keke Palmer? An identifiable look.
2:28 Speaker 01 What's my aesthetic?
2:29 Keke Palmer? It's always like, I'm humble low-key, but it's still flexing low-key. You know what I mean?
2:33 Speaker 01 I can see that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:34 Keke Palmer? It's put together, but it's like, I've seen, um, when you had the, it was almost like, I think it was like the durag or, or some type of scarf underneath the hat. It's like a vibe, you know what I mean?
2:42 Speaker 01 You be tapped in, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:44 Keke Palmer? I'm like, keep flying. Okay, your sun is a Libra, obviously, your moon is a Sag. I'm also a Sag moon. And then you have a Scorpio rising, so this is obviously, your wife has told you this. She the one who knows.
2:54 Speaker 01 She didn't go into full detail. Please explain what that mean. I have no idea what that mean. And I know you be tapped in.
2:59 Keke Palmer? I love that she knows. So, Libra we discussed, the Sag moon is, we're individuals. We love to experience, we love to travel, which we see you do all the time. We're just very much like free spirits and not afraid to, we're not trying to go against the grain, but we don't mind if we out there at home. You know what I mean? And then Scorpio, I mean Scorpios, Scorpios are independent. Um, they can be very blunt. A lot of people feel like they're like, you know, they're harsh, you know what I mean?
3:24 Speaker 01 That's me at times.
3:26 Keke Palmer? Scorpios also are about they partner. They're usually, when they're in love, that's like, that's their thing, that's what they about.
3:32 Speaker 01 I don't believe in astrology like that, but it make that, everything that you just said, I can relate to.
3:36 Keke Palmer? You literally always talking about your wife.
3:37 Speaker 01 For sure, everything you just said, I can relate.
3:39 Keke Palmer? It lines up. Um, okay, what are you most grateful for today? Family. Obviously, we're gonna talk about the Family Day Festival. That is amazing, congratulations.
3:47 Speaker 01 Are you gonna be there?
3:48 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, so wait.
3:49 Speaker 01 I would love for you to be there.
3:50 Keke Palmer? So what I gotta do to get there, man?
3:51 Speaker 01 Just come.
3:52 Keke Palmer? Okay, period. I got this, me and my whole family good?
3:55 Speaker 01 Everybody.
3:55 Keke Palmer? Cause I know y'all got tickets and stuff.
3:56 Speaker 01 So this is for kids, this is for families, this is for grandmas, grandpas, moms, mom-in-laws, whoever you wanna bring, they're on.
4:04 Keke Palmer? All I'm hearing in the back of my mind is either outstanding or grandma's hands.
4:09 Speaker 01 Bring all of them.
4:10 Keke Palmer? I'm imagining that vibe.
4:11 Speaker 01 Please, bring all of them.
4:12 Keke Palmer? Okay, a relationship or friendship non-negotiable for you? My marriage. So if somebody not respecting your marriage.
4:18 Speaker 01 Yeah.
4:19 Keke Palmer? Yeah, I mean, hey.
4:20 Speaker 01 And this is, we gonna get real raw all today.
4:22 Keke Palmer? Let's do it.
4:23 Speaker 01 This is something that we've been talking about non-stop. This is a conversation we had yesterday. I don't play when it comes to respect. And I don't play when it comes to respecting my marriage. And I'm still learning and it's still a process of trying to navigate what that looks like in his face. Because I won't, I won't catch it sometimes, but then my wife would be like, oh, she was flirting with you.
4:41 Keke Palmer? Uh-oh.
4:42 Speaker 01 I won't catch it, I won't pay no attention to it because I'm in a business mindset of looking like, oh, we got a festival to sell, or we having conversations with the mayor, or we talking to this person. And she like, oh no, that girl is such and such and such. So it's like, still, even though I don't see it, respecting the fact that she feels that way and acknowledging that and trying to figure out how to move forward with that. Uh, because respect is a huge thing to me.
5:03 Keke Palmer? And probably she can tell for her, because there's a difference between being kind and, and just being a good vibe, and then you're not being overly serious. Saying hello to me, and you're not saying hello to the wife.
5:11 Speaker 01 That's what she's, okay, so that's what she said. I don't play when it comes to speaking first, but I guess that this interaction went longer with me specifically than it did with the rest of everybody else. And she was like, if you gonna have a conversation, you had a conversation with the group, or you have a conversation with his wife.
5:28 Keke Palmer? That's right.
5:28 Speaker 01 And not just single this person out.
5:30 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
5:30 Speaker 01 And I was like, yeah, you right, you right when you right.
5:32 Keke Palmer? You got it, you got it.
5:33 Speaker 01 You right when you right, yeah.
5:34 Keke Palmer? Right. Um, what's a question you wish you were asked more in interviews? This or that questions about my personality?
5:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, I feel like people don't really know who I am. Yeah. I feel like people don't really know me for real. And this is why I was so happy to do this, because I feel like you the perfect person to really like just chop it up and have a conversation with. Uh, because I don't really talk to a lot of people. So the fact that we can chop it up, and I know you are so great at what you do, that I feel like you gonna pull it out anyway, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:59 Keke Palmer? I'm so happy.
6:00 Speaker 01 Likewise, man.
6:01 Keke Palmer? Okay, who is someone you've met that made you feel starstruck? This name that you mentioned makes me very happy because she's such a sweet person, Tiana Taylor.
6:08 Speaker 01 She's, she's one of the sweetest people. So we just met her, uh, when we were at Grammy's week and we went to a, a after-party. And she, it was a bunch of people around with so much going on, she was sitting In the back and we had our PR lady go ask her, hey, and shout out to Dom. Dom is one of my favorite people in this world.
6:25 Keke Palmer? What up Dom?
6:25 Speaker 01 Uh, so we had her go and have a conversation and see, hey, if we could just say hi to Tiana.
6:29 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
6:30 Speaker 01 I'm thinking this is gonna be a quick, you know how it stuff go. It's loud, it's people in the club, they party, it's after Grammys. I'm thinking it's gonna be like a quick wave. She literally came out in front of everybody. She pulled my wife to the front, again, we having this conversation. She pulled my wife to the front first and she said, I love y'all so much. I know y'all got three kids, I know y'all just had a son. I know that your daughter like this, she don't like that. And I'm like, you tapped in for real. And then she looked at me, she said, nothing but respect. She said, let's take a picture. And when she took the picture, she hugged Ronnie and was like this close cheek to cheek with Ronnie. And I was happy to be the third wheel in that situation.
7:02 Keke Palmer? I love that Ronnie. I love that, yeah, she's that kind of person. Very real, very respectful and just family driven.
7:10 Speaker 01 For sure.
7:10 Keke Palmer? Okay, what's a mantra you live by and why? Keep the main thing, the main thing.
7:14 Speaker 01 And the main thing is God.
7:16 Keke Palmer? Okay.
7:16 Speaker 01 Amen, the main thing is Jesus. Amen.
7:19 Keke Palmer? The main thing being the main thing and knowing that that's the main thing.
7:22 Speaker 01 Keep it the main thing, no matter what comes in between that, the main thing is the main thing.
7:26 Keke Palmer? You grew up in the church?
7:27 Speaker 01 I did.
7:27 Keke Palmer? I did too, yeah, I grew up in the church as well. And first of all, community was the main thing, I feel like, I, obviously outside of the word and God and worshiping, was just that built in foundation of community.
7:37 Speaker 01 Absolutely, I went to church camp every year.
7:38 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, I went to church camp twice, they only had it two times.
7:41 Speaker 01 I never, nobody know that about me. And again, this is why I think this is gonna be amazing. Because I went to church camp every year and from like eight to like 14. Yeah, we did like summer camp where it was like a week camp when we went out in the middle of Michigan. Uh, and then we had like all day camp where you would just go, we'd do like field trips, go to the zoo.
7:59 Keke Palmer? Yes.
8:00 Speaker 01 Eat those like box lunches that they get on that little, uh, uh, it was like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
8:06 Keke Palmer? Yup.
8:07 Speaker 01 Uh, yeah, I, I grew up in the church and, uh, I'm forever blessed to be able to have that connection. I didn't really have my connection with God personally or with Jesus until I became older.
8:16 Keke Palmer? Yes.
8:17 Speaker 01 And I was able to make my own relationship. Uh, because I feel like it's two things that can happen when you grow up in church. You can either really fall into it or you can fall out of it.
8:24 Keke Palmer? Sure.
8:25 Speaker 01 And when you don't have your own personal relationship, I think it makes you question. A lot.
8:29 Keke Palmer? Yes.
8:29 Speaker 01 You listening to stories, you watching church folk, and you know how black church folk is.
8:32 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
8:33 Speaker 01 It's either all in or all out, and if you don't fully understand as a child, maybe it can make you lean towards all out, and that's how I was until I made my own relationship.
8:41 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
8:41 Speaker 01 And I realized it's something more personable than just reading a book. You gotta understand a book in order to read it and understand your own personal journey with him.
8:48 Keke Palmer? And I feel like that living part of it is really true.
8:50 Speaker 01 That's the fact.
8:50 Keke Palmer? When we talk about our age, because for me as a kid, it's like I knew the stuff and I'm understanding it, but there's only so much that I can understand.
8:56 Speaker 01 They just felt like words.
8:57 Keke Palmer? Yes.
8:57 Speaker 01 Until you actually get into it and you can relate and you get like, oh, okay, that makes sense. I've been through that before.
9:03 Keke Palmer? Yes.
9:03 Speaker 01 I know what that feel like. Until you can get to that point, it's gonna be like, I'm just reading.
9:07 Keke Palmer? No, it's so true. And then you feel all weird, you do go that moment of judging yourself for asking questions because you feel like, oh, I'm being blasphemous, but it's like, man, you gotta ask the questions to God so God can answer them.
9:17 Speaker 01 That's the fact.
9:17 Keke Palmer? You know?
9:17 Speaker 01 And you know in our community to ask questions is.
9:20 Keke Palmer? You immediately.
9:21 Speaker 01 Yeah, we gotta pray about you. It's something wrong with him.
9:24 Keke Palmer? It's like, I'm just trying to understand.
9:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's the fact.
9:26 Keke Palmer? Yo, okay, so you welcomed a son.
9:29 Speaker 01 I did.
9:30 Keke Palmer? Cardigan, back in September, congratulations. So I mean, have you noticed any big difference because you just had, you know, this is your first boy?
9:37 Speaker 01 It's my first boy, yeah.
9:38 Keke Palmer? And you only, you just had daughters, so what is it like?
9:40 Speaker 01 It's not, nothing yet, because he ain't got a personality. So like.
9:43 Keke Palmer? You gotta just be blob.
9:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, he just be there, like, I love that you said that, because I always say, I don't know him yet. He don't know me and I don't know him. I just met him four months ago. So until, until we can get to a place where he has a personality and I can see what it is, uh, that makes the difference, I've always heard it's a difference, but my two girls are rough.
10:02 Keke Palmer? Carter's five, Riley's three, and Cardigan's five months. You got some little ones.
10:08 Speaker 01 Babies, I'm in the trenches.
10:09 Keke Palmer? Yes. You think you and Ronnie gonna want more?
10:12 Speaker 01 Okay, before she kill me. Okay, so we had a conversation, she goes back and forth a lot, right?
10:18 Keke Palmer? Yes.
10:18 Speaker 01 So my number one rule, and again, this is why I said I love doing this, because you getting stuff out of me. My number one rule is that I'm done when she's done.
10:28 Keke Palmer? Okay, boom.
10:28 Speaker 01 Whenever she ready to have more kids, we have more kids. If she want thirty of them, we gonna have thirty of them.
10:33 Keke Palmer? Period.
10:33 Speaker 01 If she done at three, we done at three. Because as much as I would wanna say I want kids, I'm not the one carrying them. And that's not my body that's going through the interfe- the before effects, the after effects. People who don't have kids don't understand how real postpartum is. And I feel like it would be selfish of me and un- Unfavoring as a partner to be like, oh, I want more kids, so we gotta have more kids. So whenever she's ready to have more, we gonna have more. But she teeters a lot.
10:59 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
11:00 Speaker 01 We'll be thirty this year. Uh, I just turned twenty-nine October, she turns thirty in March.
11:04 Keke Palmer? Okay.
11:04 Speaker 01 Um, so she said by the time she's thirty, she wants to be done having kids. But this is before my son. So now it's like, one day I'll talk to her, she'll be like, yeah, I can see maybe when he get four or five. And other days I'll talk to her, she'll be like, I said I was done at thirty. So it's like, I don't know.
11:19 Keke Palmer? And her birthday is March what? She Aries or Pisces? Oh, she's Aries. My dad's a twenty-six.
11:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. So I don't know, it be, it be flip flop. Whatever she wanna do, if we have more kids, just know it's because she came to me and said, I want more kids.
11:31 Keke Palmer? What kind of pregnant is she? Is she chill or is she different each time?
11:34 Speaker 01 It depends, yeah. So with the boys, she was more like, quiet. And she just like wanted her peace and wanted to be to herself. With the girls, it was food, food, food. Cravings non-stop. Like the most random, weird, three o'clock in the morning, go get me a slushy from this gas station. And it gotta be from this gas station, cuz I'm gonna be able to tell that you got it from a different gas station.
11:56 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
11:56 Speaker 01 French fries from a specific McDonald's. Uh, milkshakes and french fries at the same time. But then with my boys, she literally just was like, here.
12:05 Keke Palmer? That's so funny. People always say that about daughters, whatever it is, they make you hungry.
12:10 Speaker 01 Make you hungry. I don't know what that is. Yeah, I don't know what that is. I can't tell you what it is. It was a stark difference. Yeah, it was a complete stark difference.
12:16 Keke Palmer? Um, so you and your wife, Ronnie, y'all got married during COVID. But you were, you were posting about possibly planning like a little larger celebration.
12:23 Speaker 01 We've never had a wedding.
12:24 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
12:24 Speaker 01 We got married at the courthouse.
12:26 Keke Palmer? OMG, I mean, the paper is the paper, so we locked there regardless.
12:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's a fact, that's a fact.
12:31 Keke Palmer? So would you wanna do something bigger for a celebr- yeah, is, would it be this year, next year?
12:35 Speaker 01 Destination wedding is, is the plan. Uh, but you know, with, with them, you really gotta plan.
12:40 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
12:40 Speaker 01 And I got a real big family.
12:41 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
12:42 Speaker 01 Trying to get a bunch [BLEEP] in one spot. I think that's gonna be the hardest part. Um, especially if you talking about doing a destination. I had passports.
12:51 Keke Palmer? Man, then we gotta get the passports.
12:52 Speaker 01 We gotta get the passports.
12:53 Keke Palmer? We gotta wait the five months.
12:54 Speaker 01 The baby ain't even got a passport yet.
12:56 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, the baby passport.
12:57 Speaker 01 Yeah, trying to figure all that out is gonna be the hardest part. And at the same time, you still wanna enjoy and celebrate.
13:03 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
13:03 Speaker 01 Because when I say we had no wedding, it was literally during COVID. Uh, and she was pregnant at the time with my Otis. Um, so we at the courthouse, big belly, everybody got masks on. Uh, we are six feet away from each other, but it's 30 of us. Uh, and we in Vegas, so we at the Elvis Presley, uh, drive thru. Where we all standing outside, uh.
13:23 Keke Palmer? That's actually really romantic.
13:24 Speaker 01 It, it was romantic in a sense, but at, at the same time, it was hot. She's six, seven months pregnant.
13:32 Speaker 01 So I, I think it's definitely something that I, I wanna revisit. Um, it's just gonna take a lot of planning. I already know.
13:38 Keke Palmer? Well, I'll be looking, you know, we gonna, we watch your life online, so we be, we be waiting for the post.
13:41 Speaker 01 Absolutely. Well, you better be there.
13:43 Keke Palmer? Okay. I love that I'm being, I'm, I'm being embraced like this.
13:47 Speaker 01 We met in New Orleans and I told you when we first met that you are one of my favorite people. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart. And I don't take that lightly. Like, the love is mutual.
13:57 Keke Palmer? And I know you don't because your reviews.
13:58 Speaker 01 I'm dead, I'm dead serious, bro. I do not take that lightly.
14:01 Keke Palmer? That means so much. You know, I love you.
14:03 Speaker 01 Louisiana, I love you more than New Orleans, Louisiana. We are not only having a family food day. I want your family to be there and I want everybody to just come and have fun, man.
14:12 Keke Palmer? That's so fire. You know, I got my little boy. He love to be around a bunch of fu- bunch of black folks.
14:16 Speaker 01 It's amusement rides. We got carnival. Uh, we doing an obstacle course where my family's competing with other families.
14:22 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh.
14:23 Speaker 01 Uh, if you all competitive, you can jump in on that.
14:25 Keke Palmer? Yeah. So what kind of games are gonna be there? Like, are we talking like, uh, what is it?
14:28 Speaker 01 Welcome home, Roscoe Jenkins.
14:29 Keke Palmer? Oh.
14:30 Speaker 01 Old school, family reunion, competitive, sweating, arguing, going back and forth, having a time.
14:37 Keke Palmer? Now, is this the first family day?
14:38 Speaker 01 It is. It's the first one.
14:39 Keke Palmer? What made you decide to do this?
14:42 Speaker 01 That's a great question. Okay, so the, we've had a conversation about what it looks like to do food tour before, but I don't think I've ever really went in full detail. Uh, it's eight to 10 hours in a Sprinter van with my kids and with my wife and with my family, non-stop, and we might be on the road for three weeks at a time. Um, and we do that in a bunch of different states, right?
15:02 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
15:02 Speaker 01 So if you've got kids cranky in the back, you doing eight or 10 hours non-stop. We eating food that they can't necessarily eat. Uh, we gotta stop in different places. It's, it's a lot that goes into it, right? Um, and I think for me, I was looking for a way to do it that's more streamlined and have it to where it's a big event in the actual day. Uh, this is the first thing that I've ever actually done. Like, you know, some people, some people get 10, 15 million followers and they're like, oh, I'm selling product immediately. Or come do my e-course of how to do this and then come-
15:32 Keke Palmer? Them e-courses be going off.
15:33 Speaker 01 Immediately, like the second you get any kind of notoriety, immediately it's selling something. Uh, we four years in, and this is the first thing that I'm actually selling. I've tried to sell merch before and I get so much in my head that I can't fathom the fact of taking money from somebody that I don't have a personal connection with. So this is the way I can have a personal connection and see people in person. Um, and this is not a money grab. This is not something we just throwing up. I'm walking around the festival. I'm talking to people. I'm full-blown competing. Uh,
16:01 Keke Palmer? Oh my god.
16:02 Speaker 01 This is something where my team has already cussed me out in, in advance of how crazy I know this might get. Uh, and I don't care. I want all parts.
16:10 Keke Palmer? May 16th in New Orleans. I mean, the families of the core of this event, like so many of your other projects. I feel like this is exactly you and your brand. How are you, how has the preparation been? Cause it's a, a big undertaking.
16:22 Speaker 01 Kiki, Kiki, this is the hardest thing I've ever done.
16:26 Keke Palmer? I can only imagine.
16:26 Speaker 01 I'm not gonna hold you up. Uh, just from being on calls all day, every day.
16:31 Keke Palmer? Yeah, the vendors.
16:32 Speaker 01 Vendors, the- Uh, lineup, so we got a very crazy lineup, but it's for every generation. So we got Kirk Franklin as the main.
16:43 Keke Palmer? Stomping.
16:44 Speaker 01 We, and he, have you ever seen Kirk in person?
16:47 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, I've seen him like one of the award shows, you know, like performing.
16:49 Speaker 01 Oh Kirk be stomping.
16:52 Keke Palmer? So classic and nostalgic.
16:52 Speaker 01 We did an event in Atlanta and there was no, uh, mics, there were no, the power had went out. So he had nothing but an electric keyboard and six people singing. And you would have thought he had a marching band with him. He was sweating, he had a tank top on, it was see-through by the time the performance was done. He is one of the best performers I've ever seen in person. So we got him as headliner, but then we also got Gracie's Corner for the kids.
17:17 Keke Palmer? Gracie's Corner, we love you Gracie.
17:19 Speaker 01 I love some Gracie. Uh, she gonna be full-blown mascot, walking around the festival. Uh, but then we got Shamar.
17:27 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, you please.
17:29 Speaker 01 For every generation. So I, I wanted music for every generation to be able to come and enjoy. And it's not just one thing where one group of people are gonna be sitting there dancing, everybody's sitting down. I wanted to where everybody take turns.
17:42 Keke Palmer? Yes.
17:42 Speaker 01 And then at the end of it, we all just listen to Kirk and have fun. We got, then we got, uh, New Orleans, um, natives, so we got Manny Fresh. Then we got Ha Sissa.
17:51 Keke Palmer? What?
17:52 Speaker 01 Shout out to, uh, Lurizi, we got Lurizi, who's one of the biggest upcoming artists in New Orleans.
17:56 Keke Palmer? Shout out to Lurizi.
17:57 Speaker 01 We really tapping into the culture and tapping into what it is of, of that city. And I'll give you an exclusive, next year we going somewhere in the Midwest.
18:05 Keke Palmer? So you've already got it planned?
18:07 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
18:08 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, I love that. Come on somewhere in the Midwest.
18:09 Speaker 01 Cause again, this is, this is something that's a true passion of mine. Like this is something that I'm putting everything into. It's really, uh, when I say a passion of love, I'm talking every day. We just got ideas and conversations and that's why it's the hardest thing. Because I know if this does well is because, one is in God's timing, but it's because this is genuinely something that we put together.
18:32 Keke Palmer? Yes.
18:32 Speaker 01 And not, anything else I've ever done has been a collaboration with somebody.
18:35 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
18:36 Speaker 01 So we hosted a festival before with Complex, but it was with Complex.
18:39 Keke Palmer? Sure.
18:39 Speaker 01 This is the first time where it's Keith Lee and family, or family and Keith Lee, that we actually put it together where our own business, our own LLCs, our own, making our own portfolio from, from a business perspective.
18:51 Keke Palmer? That's very important.
18:52 Speaker 01 And I think what's so, I think what's so crazy is that people don't talk about it enough.
18:56 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
18:56 Speaker 01 And it's like we four years in and this is our very first touch into that. Cause before. It felt like everything was quick, get rich quick schemes.
19:05 Keke Palmer? Sure.
19:05 Speaker 01 And I don't like them quick money grabs.
19:07 Keke Palmer? Because you want something to be cyclical. How is this supporting the community? How is this, like, if I'm gonna ask for something, I need to be giving something.
19:14 Speaker 01 Exactly, and we need to really feel reciprocated. I don't want nobody to come and just be like, oh, I spent all this money with them and they just wasn't there. We ain't even seen him, we didn't even know this event, it just had his name on it. No, I want you to be able to see us, I want you to see my kids having fun. Everybody, please be safe at the same time. Don't run up on my kids, they still my kids.
19:33 Keke Palmer? And they kids.
19:34 Speaker 01 They still kids, nah, so, but I want everybody just to have fun. Uh, we are cousins, I want everybody just to feel like family. Uh, and it's just a day where everybody can come and enjoy.
19:44 Keke Palmer? Well, you know, the biggest question is, what kind of food we gonna have up at there?
19:47 Speaker 01 So, if you ever seen a video and you was like, ooh, that look good, nine times out of 10, they gonna be there.
19:52 Keke Palmer? Ooh, so we getting all type of stuff?
19:55 Speaker 01 Kind of food, so not only food from New Orleans, uh, but we got food from surrounding areas. Uh, I can give you a few of them that, that are staples for me. Uh, there's a black owned woman, because again, it's still about community. There's a black owned woman pudding shop in Pearland, Texas. Uh, when we first went, she was on the verge of closing. She has the best banana pudding I've ever had in my entire life, and I don't need to say that lightly. Uh, she was on the verge of closing, now she has three different locations.
20:19 Keke Palmer? Ah, blessings.
20:20 Speaker 01 There's a place in Chicago, Illinois called Cleo's.
20:24 Keke Palmer? Come on, Cleo's?
20:25 Speaker 01 Shout out to Cleo's.
20:26 Keke Palmer? Cleo's, shout out.
20:26 Speaker 01 She had, she had one location, now she's at, I think, three or four locations. Um, and these are grassroots mom and pop shops that are still independent. Um, and places that can come, even a place from here in LA, Easy Street Burgers.
20:40 Keke Palmer? Oh, Easy Street Burgers, I've had them.
20:41 Speaker 01 Um, places that are still mom and pop and places that can still use the visibility. Um, and take it and, and go to the next level.
20:49 Keke Palmer? I love that, I mean, I, I wanna go back to the beginning, but I just have to ask, because you're saying this in, in, in this moment is, did you foresee that being? What your brand would turn, or your influence would turn into in terms of supporting black-owned businesses? And really, and really giving people an opportunity to grow?
21:06 Speaker 01 I would say yes. I didn't think it was gonna be a festival. I thought it was gonna be something. Of course, we had the conversation about a restaurant, but a restaurant, I feel like, don't get enough credit for how hard that business is. Is if not one of the hardest, if not the hardest business to get into, especially if you have no experience in it. Um, and I don't take that lightly. I don't play with, when it comes to people money. So I wasn't just about to set nothing up so you could be like, "Oh, his food trash."
21:31 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
21:32 Speaker 01 And he talking about everybody else's food and his custom service ain't...
21:35 Keke Palmer? Ah, you know, people be so ready to drag.
21:37 Speaker 01 Immediately, immediately. What you do?
21:42 Speaker 01 Well, yeah, I immediately wanted to avoid that. So, uh, like I said, restaurant was, was in question. Um, but then we started thinking about something that could be long-term and, and like I said, building IP. Uh, it could be something that, that is existing every year. And I'm like, what better way than bring in a community together than have an actual family reunion? And what does a family reunion look like? A festival. Music festival, food, family. Uh, and this, this I really wanted to separate from any other festival. Like, I didn't want it just to be something that I slap my name on.
22:13 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
22:13 Speaker 01 Like I said, I can't think of any other festival that has an obstacle course where you can compete.
22:17 Keke Palmer? Except for the grown folk, you know?
22:18 Speaker 01 Some, I can't think of any festival where you can go and listen to Shamar and Kirk Franklin in the same place.
22:22 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
22:23 Speaker 01 I can't think of no festival where you can get small, local-owned spots from different parts of the country. Um, and even out of the country. I can't think of any place that highlights and, and puts small businesses on a forefront of a festival. Um, because when you go to festivals, it's usually either all about the music, or if it's all about the food, it's all about the staples.
22:41 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
22:42 Speaker 01 Or the big wild factors.
22:43 Keke Palmer? Cause it's the sponsors.
22:44 Speaker 01 You get the big, yeah, the big sponsors, uh, places. Um, but this is literally about the community for the community.
22:50 Keke Palmer? I love this for you. I'm so excited. May 16th, New Orleans. This is huge news. Let's take it all the way back to the beginning because we gotta know what type of kid Keith Lee was growing up. What was it like growing up in Detroit?
23:02 Speaker 01 I was bad, bro. Yeah, I was real bad.
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24:12 Speaker 01 I've told this story before, so I'll go a little deeper in detail.
24:15 Keke Palmer? Okay.
24:16 Speaker 01 So I was a kid who had, you can say disciplinary issues, but my, my issue was the issue with authority. And I be damn, my kids are the exact same way.
24:27 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, you got it back. You got it, you got it back.
24:31 Speaker 01 Kiki, when I tell you, I can't tell my daughter to do anything without, why?
24:37 Keke Palmer? I love it.
24:37 Speaker 01 For what? And I'll explain it and she like, ah, okay, I'll do it that. But afterwards, can we talk? Because you were a little loud when you said it. And she five.
24:47 Keke Palmer? You got a critical thinker on your hands.
24:48 Speaker 01 And I, it's a great thing and it's something that is to be admired, but it's something that is very difficult to deal with.
24:54 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
24:54 Speaker 01 And that's why I was labeled as a disciplinary issue because instead of taking the time to figure out what it was or where I was coming from, I will automatically just get labeled and just get thrown to the side like, oh, he bad.
25:05 Keke Palmer? Yes. Especially, you know, I mean, first of all, schools in general, they could do that to kids that ask questions. And it's not even really trying to challenge authority, it's trying to understand the meaning.
25:15 Speaker 01 I don't know and I really wanna know because I'm inquisitive, so I really have. Have to know why you telling me what to do. Instead of just being like, cuz I said so.
25:23 Keke Palmer? Yeah, like it was never gonna do it. Why did I think that that was what was gonna do it? Um, but before food was MMA fighting. So I feel like that must have been a way to let some of that steam off.
25:31 Speaker 01 So I wrestled all through middle school and high school. And I went straight from high school to being a professional fighter. I tried to go to college, I couldn't afford it. Uh, and that second I left, I went straight to, cuz my brother had moved his all to Vegas from Detroit.
25:43 Keke Palmer? Okay.
25:44 Speaker 01 Uh, and I went back to Vegas and I started training with him. And I turned professional at eighteen. Uh, and I was fighting from eighteen to twenty-six. My last fight was at the end of twenty twenty-two, that's when everything took off on social media.
25:55 Keke Palmer? I remember when we all saw that you was that fighter too, we was like, whoa, that footage was like, okay, killer.
26:01 Speaker 01 You know, it was crazy. I feel like people immediately just see me as the food guy. And like, and I know you can relate to this so much because you've had so many different paths and so many different parts of your life. That people will look at you and be like, oh, that's Akilah Naby.
26:14 Keke Palmer? Yeah, yeah.
26:14 Speaker 01 Or like, oh, that's Kiki.
26:15 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
26:16 Speaker 01 But like, at what point did you feel comfortable with that? Because I feel like I'm just starting to get comfortable with not being the fighter. Because my whole life, that's all I thought I was gonna be.
26:25 Keke Palmer? Yeah, and so you just mean like the fact that people are just making you the food guy?
26:29 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:29 Keke Palmer? Yeah, yeah, how do, how you do that? You know,
26:33 Keke Palmer? I think that when I stopped, when I was no longer a kid. And it was like difficult for me to like make that transition from being a kid entertainer to being an adult. I was just like, I don't know what, what happened in my mind, but I just was kinda like, I leaned into it, I guess. I leaned into the fact that like, you know, y'all have known me forever. You know what I'm saying? It's okay, even though I moved into a new, but yours is the reverse.
26:54 Speaker 01 Yes.
26:54 Keke Palmer? It's like people aren't remembering where you been. You know, so it's a total different thing. And I think, you know, I don't know, I, I feel like for me as a fan of yours, I live for the Keith Lee having the MMA past, you know what I mean? And then also like now he's a food critic, like this is crazy, like, I love the, the diversity in that.
27:10 Speaker 01 What character do people call you the most?
27:12 Keke Palmer? Akilah.
27:13 Speaker 01 Akilah.
27:13 Keke Palmer? Akilah, and they always call me Akilah, and then they always call me True Jacksons.
27:17 Speaker 01 Uh-huh, you always gonna be true.
27:19 Keke Palmer? It's always true, you know, the VP, they're like, I'm the no thing thing, you know?
27:23 Speaker 01 There'll be people walking up to you and say, haha.
27:25 Keke Palmer? Yes, it's crazy.
27:26 Speaker 01 That's hilarious.
27:26 Keke Palmer? But you know, it's one of those things where I just go back to it, I'm just like, at least. At least y'all, you know, y'all rocking with it.
27:31 Speaker 01 You hear me?
27:32 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean?
27:32 Speaker 01 At least they know you for something.
27:33 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean? And it's positive either way, you know? So that makes me happy. But it is a weird thing, you know? Um, so have you and your brother? Because your brother, Kevin Lee, is a UFC fighter.
27:42 Speaker 01 Yeah.
27:42 Keke Palmer? Did y'all? What was it like growing up? Was y'all fighting like?
27:45 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
27:46 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
27:46 Speaker 01 Every day, all day. Uh, so I have three brothers. I have two brothers. Uh, and then I have a god brother. So that's why I was about to say I have three brothers. But then I have an older sister. Uh, my older sister is the one who gave it to me the most.
27:56 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
27:57 Speaker 01 She in here somewhere. Or she probably listening in front of the opposite side.
27:59 Keke Palmer? Hey, older sis.
28:00 Speaker 01 So her name is Irma. She is my best friend. Uh, growing up, she was a lot bigger than me. So she was full blown. I'm talking about old school. If I do anything, she the one that's sitting on people. She the one putting people under the pillows and making you sit there with your arms next to you.
28:15 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, I live for it.
28:16 Speaker 01 Yeah, my sister was. She was, she was the, the strict one out of all of them. But now me and her are like, dig these. And she's seven years older than me. But if you were sincere.
28:24 Keke Palmer? That's like me and my little brother.
28:25 Speaker 01 I'm gonna bring her in when, when you done and you tell me who you think older.
28:28 Keke Palmer? Okay.
28:28 Speaker 01 People always think she my little sister. Always. Always. She got them good genes. Yeah, she got them real good genes.
28:34 Keke Palmer? You've been very vocal about social anxiety.
28:36 Speaker 01 I have.
28:37 Keke Palmer? And just saying it's been a part of your life since you were younger. But it's so interesting because I don't, I don't see that.
28:41 Speaker 01 Cause I rock with you, Kiki. Yeah, that's why, that's why you don't see it, cause I rock with you.
28:46 Keke Palmer? So how did, I mean, like, fighting in front of crowds, did that was? But you was killing it? Like, did that make you nervous or did that help you?
28:52 Speaker 01 Yes and no. I feel like my anxiety shows itself in social settings more than it does in a setting like that. Because I don't have to talk to people. So it's like, I can punch somebody in the face and whatever happens after this kind of happens after this. But talking to people for some reason always gave me this like, I, cause I'm over thinker. So I overthink everything. So like, I can have a conversation with somebody and if I say one thing that I don't like, I'm thinking about it and replaying it a thousand times, nonstop.
29:20 Keke Palmer? I do that too.
29:21 Speaker 01 It's the worst.
29:22 Keke Palmer? It's a doozy.
29:22 Speaker 01 Because then I go into conversations nervous about what I'm about to say. And then I, in a conversation nervous and then I lead a conversation even more nervous. Uh, and then that just kind of snowballs into this like overly anxious, kind of overthinking, like worried kind of situation.
29:38 Keke Palmer? And I feel like social media doesn't. Make it any better.
29:39 Speaker 01 Oh, we make it way worse.
29:41 Keke Palmer? And you meant every word you said.
29:44 Speaker 01 People with them, Kiki, people with them glasses, them undercover spies, them, them Meta glasses.
29:49 Keke Palmer? The ones that are filming.
29:50 Speaker 01 God, they are, it's a nightmare. Because you like, oh, I'm just having a social interaction and you see [BLEEP] blinking and you're like, oh, [BLEEP].
29:56 Keke Palmer? Got me.
29:57 Speaker 01 I think I caught. And I be mid-conversation like, oh damn, I'm looking right at your camera like, damn, I think I caught.
30:01 Keke Palmer? And you got the people online that be reading lips and [BLEEP].
30:04 Speaker 01 They be the worst.
30:05 Keke Palmer? Like what?
30:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, see, I can't, I can't imagine what it's like to be Keke Palmer. Because I feel like I'm still in a space where people see me as a family man and as the food guy. So it's a level of respect I feel like people give me.
30:18 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
30:18 Speaker 01 Where I don't have like the screaming, people coming like running up and down the street. But I see people like you or people like Asho Speed or Kaisa Not, who garners a different audience. Where I don't know what that feels like.
30:31 Keke Palmer? I think it's very interesting what you're pointing out, which is just like the type of audience that people, you know, that the type of, the type of audience an artist has.
30:38 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
30:39 Keke Palmer? And it's interesting because I do have some people, depending on if they know me from like social media, if they know me from like my kid years, that could come with some of that energy. But then I also have some of my fans that are like either like the auntie committee and they be like, baby.
30:52 Speaker 01 Aunties, that's me. I got, I love me some aunties. Yeah, I love me some aunties.
30:58 Keke Palmer? When they, they be like, baby.
30:59 Speaker 01 I get that every day.
31:00 Keke Palmer? Always.
31:01 Speaker 01 Always gonna be good. God, I got you. And I can feel it all over you.
31:06 Keke Palmer? When I tell you, I feel so received.
31:08 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's me every day.
31:10 Keke Palmer? And so that energy is like everything, you know, because it's like, obviously I love all my fans, even the ones that come up with, you know, crazy energy, but it's true. You, depending on where people meet you from, what that, you're gonna, you're gonna get that energy. It's different. Yeah. Um, you first started, we're talking about Ronnie, you first started actually posting videos about cooking your wife's pregnancy cravings, which then evolved obviously into your restaurant reviews. And by 2023, you're signing seven-figure deals and you have seven million followers, like. So how did, were you just always a foodie?
31:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
31:39 Keke Palmer? Okay, boom.
31:39 Speaker 01 So I've always been a foodie. I've always been somebody who is in love with the art of food. Because as a wrestler and a fighter, you have to be focused on your diet and your nutrition. Always been around food scientists or or people who are professional chefs. People are are food nutritionists and I've always had to learn how to. Cause at first I never did weight cutting the right way. So in high school, I would, I wouldn't eat anything. I wouldn't drink a lot of water. I would try and make weight in a very unhealthy way. I would eat. Applesauce, one jar applesauce for three days and be training nonstop. Uh, and it's very unhealthy for your body, but then I learned how to, what to eat and when to eat it.
32:15 Keke Palmer? Yeah, so what's the proper way to cut, what's the proper thing we do about cutting weight?
32:19 Speaker 01 So it's like a give and take system. So as much as you give into your body, you have to take out that a little bit more, if that makes sense. So if I put in seven hundred calories, I have to take out seven hundred and fifty calories.
32:29 Keke Palmer? What?
32:30 Speaker 01 Then.
32:32 Speaker 01 But then substitute minerals and substitute good fats and and and. Uh, substitute good proteins and carbs to really give your body fuel. Cause i- if you, if you do it right, your body is like a. It could be either of, I don't want to throw nobody under the bus, but it could be either like a Volkswagen Jetta or it could be a Bentley. And if you, and if you treat your body like a Bentley, then.
32:56 Keke Palmer? Love a Jetta, but if I have to choose.
33:02 Keke Palmer? You put a gun in my head. Cause why would I do the hand too?
33:09 Keke Palmer? No, but I love what you're saying.
33:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, cause I think it's, it's really, you can either treat your, fuel your body, uh, and the best fuel that you can give it. Uh, like I said, is good carbs and good fats and good minerals. Uh, and learning that it, like I said, I only learned it through food nutritionists and having my brother with me who. Would cut a lot more weight than I did and just being able to see his journey and see his process. Um, and really see how fine tuned it has to be. And I think my, my love of food has come from that. Um, and even when I was cutting weight and I couldn't eat, I would eat through people. Like I had this real big thing where I'm like, I'm a vicarious eater. So like, I can be fasting for three days. My family will tell you, I can be fast for three days. All three of those days, I'm watching Food Network nonstop.
33:49 Keke Palmer? It's so weird how that is for you. Anytime that I've had a moment where I was fasting, I was doing something specific where I couldn't eat certain foods. It sounds torturous, but why am I watching videos of food? Like watching
34:00 Speaker 01 Eat it slower, pick it up.
34:01 Keke Palmer? Cooking a crab ragout between sourdough toast.
34:05 Speaker 01 And let it fall off the spoon. Just slow down a little bit.
34:08 Keke Palmer? Like, it's too
34:09 Speaker 01 Quit talking a little bit, just slow down, just let me see.
34:12 Keke Palmer? It's so good.
34:12 Speaker 01 I want a slow pick up and, yeah, that's me.
34:15 Keke Palmer? It's very fun to watch people eat, which is why we love watching your reviews. We live for this. But I have to ask, do you still cook? Because we was watching you, you know, you was doing it with your wife.
34:23 Speaker 01 I can't as much.
34:24 Keke Palmer? Okay, yeah.
34:24 Speaker 01 We be traveling so much. Uh, I had, I've slowed down on even doing food reviews because again, this, this festival is such a main focus.
34:31 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
34:32 Speaker 01 And I don't want to put out something just for the sake of putting it out. Um, I don't want to go do a food tour just to say we did a food tour. Everything has to be intentional. And the reason why I haven't done a lot of food reviews is because every day I'm focused on this food festival and making it the best food festival on planet earth. And I won't half ass it. I'm not going to just do something because, oh, I ain't posted in this long, or I need to do whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. If you want to unfollow me because I ain't posting that much, so be it.
34:59 Keke Palmer? Yeah, but I mean, Regardless, you've had such a success story and I wonder how much you're surprised about how this has happened for you in this regard. You know, what, did you expect it to come from this? You know, did you think that, hey, me and my family is gonna be always on this, but it was gonna be from MMA like?
35:14 Speaker 01 I thought I was gonna be a champion of the world. I thought that I was gonna have a bunch of endorsement deals rolling in from that. Um, that didn't happen. It didn't even get close to happening. Uh, I got punched in the face and got kicked out of my contract.
35:26 Keke Palmer? That's
35:26 Speaker 01 Bloody and my daughter is like, oh daddy bleeding. And then that turned into, like I said, me doing what I felt like I was called to do, which the only reason I started recording is so I can get used to being in front of the camera. So I can do MMA interviews. But that really was me studying to be able to do this. And I had no idea.
35:42 Keke Palmer? Isn't that so funny because you just said you thought you were gonna be the champion of the world and you were gonna have endorsement deals. But you have endorsement deals.
35:50 Speaker 01 Like, amen.
35:51 Keke Palmer? And you are a champion.
35:52 Speaker 01 Amen.
35:52 Keke Palmer? You know, but it's just, it's a god, we don't even be knowing, the god be writing the script and also you don't have to get punched.
35:58 Speaker 01 That's a fact.
35:58 Keke Palmer? So I don't know about you.
35:59 Speaker 01 That's a fact.
36:00 Keke Palmer? But that's fire, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still doing all the things, but I get to just be with my family doing it?
36:06 Speaker 01 And the fact that we just get to travel the world, eat food together, yeah. It's a blessing, man.
36:10 Keke Palmer? God be like, just chill for I just chill. I mean, plenty of people post videos of food, but why do you think yours has resonated the way it did?
36:18 Speaker 01 Uh, be I genuinely want, because I pray a lot. I think that that can't be understated of how much that the power of prayer is real.
36:25 Keke Palmer? Amen.
36:26 Speaker 01 And I never ask him for anything. I always just thank him in advance for whatever's gonna happen. Uh, and I think once you live a life of gratitude and you live a life of not wanting anything or wanting for anything, uh, he gonna give you everything that that is supposed to be for you. Uh, and I think that's what it boiled down to. But Pat, from a, a business perspective, I don't try to do anything. I just eat and whatever happened after that, happened after that. I'm not trying to get the best angles, the best lighting. I don't have the best equipment. I got my phone. I don't try and make the best story. I literally, if I feel like I'm supposed to eat there, I eat there and then whatever happened after that, happened after that.
37:04 Keke Palmer? And everything feels true.
37:06 Speaker 01 I be chilling.
37:06 Keke Palmer? You know, like when I think about, like you're talking about the God of it all and the, the, like the way you do it all. Like to me, it's all the same because like when I think about God, I think about the way, the truth, the light. I think about the honesty, it's just accuracy, it's what cannot be avoided. And when you acknowledge that and when you're working in alignment with what's true for you, that's what people feel.
37:25 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
37:25 Keke Palmer? They feel that alignment. Even you have your own style of editing, like no one could tell you to do that, but that was just what felt true to you.
37:31 Speaker 01 For sure.
37:32 Keke Palmer? And then now it's the Keith Lee vibe, you know what I mean?
37:34 Speaker 01 I'm a Vine baby and I don't think that that gets enough credit.
37:37 Keke Palmer? Come on.
37:37 Speaker 01 I'm a Vine kid.
37:38 Keke Palmer? Talk about it.
37:38 Speaker 01 So I was, I graduated in 2014, so I'm a Vine kid. I'm a, uh, Instagram, before Instagram had reels. Like that's the editing style that I come from and I just refuse to change it because that's what I always related to and what I always enjoy watching.
37:53 Keke Palmer? Yes, um, when thinking about the platform today, I know you mentioned a lot of what your miss, your, uh, mission especially now has been about Family Day, but I mean, would you just say it's supporting restaurants, bringing people together or something else entirely when you think about why you're doing what you're doing and as an influencer?
38:08 Speaker 01 Yeah, I would say it's, it's about one, being a marketing platform for small restaurants. Um, but it's also about, uh, having a space for black families to, to be represented. Um, I'm a black dad with a black wife and black kids. I think that's extremely important to show. Um, and I think it's something that's underrepresented when it comes to mainstream media. Uh, I think they allow us to be in spaces that. They want to allow us to be in. But we are able and we are blessed enough to be everywhere we supposed to be at. And I think that that's really one of the biggest highlights from, from anything that I do. And from a business perspective, uh, I say it's a marketing platform. And we really getting into a lot of business bags this year.
38:53 Keke Palmer? And I think it's important thing to show, especially when we talk about the black dollar and black ownership.
38:57 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
38:58 Keke Palmer? What I always try to say to people, whether they care about the culture or understand what the culture is about, or there's a lot of money being left on the table.
39:04 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
39:05 Keke Palmer? Because when one community is not able to excel, everything else can't excel. So if you just think about it from the business standpoint, it's like, look at all the money that's being left on the table because people can't support their businesses.
39:15 Speaker 01 That's why I mess with you, Kiki.
39:17 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean? It's like, because if there's more money there, then there's more money everywhere. And now we're talking about a more thriving economy. Because everybody can make money, so everybody can create. So it's, it's important that we, that we support the businesses.
39:28 Speaker 01 And I feel like right now, we are in a space where the dollar gets, it gets funneled through the same channels.
39:34 Keke Palmer? You know.
39:34 Speaker 01 And it gets funneled through the same people and it go to the same. It, it's a certain amount of people that they, I don't know how deep we gonna get to here, but we gonna get deep. It's a certain amount of people that they pick every now and again, and they keep them in the same rotation. Uh, and I'm blessed enough to be one of those people that's gonna be a disruptor of that. And bring people who don't necessarily had a spotlight, that are in food deserts, that are in places that aren't in super big cities. And it's like, if you from Chicago, right? If you from the outskirts of Chicago and you see somebody come to Robbins, Illinois, and it's like, people in Robbins, Illinois have just as much, if not more sometimes, passion than people that are in the big cities. And they don't get the recognition. And like I said, I'm blessed enough to be a disruptor of that and bringing people from those communities and from those places.
40:16 Speaker 01 Uh, like I said, a lady from the puttery, she in Perrylin, Texas.
40:20 Keke Palmer? Like where is that?
40:20 Speaker 01 If you ain't from Houston, you don't know where Perrylin, Texas is.
40:23 Keke Palmer? I'm in Perrylin.
40:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's like an hour out of Houston. And it ain't nobody over there. We was on the way driving over there, it wasn't nothing but grass and cows.
40:31 Keke Palmer? But that's what it takes.
40:32 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
40:32 Keke Palmer? That's what it takes is people like yourself, people like us in these positions. I know we can't do everything, but what we can do, like let's do it, let's spread the, spread the access, spread the platform, spread the wealth. So I really love that. I really, really do. Um, so from the beginning, your reviews center small, independent, often black owned restaurants. How soon did you realize that was the market you wanted to cover? Like, when did, was that, you know what I mean?
40:56 Speaker 01 Uh, it wasn't, like I said, I, from the beginning, it wasn't necessarily super business minded. But now it is, uh, in the beginning, it's, I'm very pro-black. I wanna see everybody that look like me succeed. Um, and in my day-to-day life, I was going to places that look like me.
41:12 Keke Palmer? Yes.
41:12 Speaker 01 Again, I'm from Detroit. I went to all-black high school, I went to all-black middle school, uh, I went to all-black church camp. And so that is my necessary, that, like, that's my, my deference. Is to go to where my people are, uh, and to go to, and it sucks as a reality, but nine times out of 10, the food deserts look like me and you.
41:33 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
41:34 Speaker 01 The people who aren't represented, and the people who are underfunded, uh, and the people who can't get the loans, and are taking their kids back and forth from work, but still having people ask them for $10,000 for a marketing video that they can't afford, look like me and you.
41:48 Keke Palmer? And it's like, come on, man.
41:49 Speaker 01 That's, that's why we do it, we do it for free.
41:51 Keke Palmer? Yeah, it's like, come on, get real. What's a small detail that you always notice that tells you, if there is one, oh, this place about to be good?
41:59 Speaker 01 Ooh, from a food perspective, or like a, just a general?
42:01 Keke Palmer? Yeah, like a restaurant.
42:02 Speaker 01 I got a few of them.
42:08 Keke Palmer? There is a very specific kind of joy that happens when you get three generations of your family all under one roof. And if you know, you know. I'm talking about mom teaching the grandkids something in the backyard, daddy on the grill doing what he does best, the cousins running around being feral in the best way possible. And let me tell you, that kind of moment, you're not really getting that in a hotel. In a hotel, everybody ends up in their own room, doors closed, doing their own thing. Starts to feel more like a logistics exercise than a family memory. But when I book a stay on Airbnb, like when I went to Big Bear, ugh, it's a whole different vibe. You get a real home in a real neighborhood with enough space so nobody's on top of each other, but still close enough that everybody's part of the same story.
42:54 Keke Palmer? And that's what makes it special. Spring is the perfect time to do it before summer gets hectic and everybody's schedules take over. Find a home on Airbnb and get your whole family under one roof. Trust me, that's where the magic is.
43:10 Speaker 01 So if we shooting a video, right? I will either, one, if there's a story that matches how the person is when you first meet them, or when you meet them, I think that's automatically a for sure sign. So people will reach out and be like, hey, I done had this restaurant for 10 years and only one or two people come, but this is me and my mom, or me and my dad, and this is a family owned spot. When you walk in, you could tell if they legit like that. And I feel like within a few seconds of a conversation, you could tell. But when it comes from a food perspective, one is presentation. I feel like when you, we all know, when you see certain plates, especially when it comes to black diaspora food, when you see certain plates,
43:51 Speaker 01 the way that the mac and cheese glisten, it's a very specific texture that has to be done for you, and you can see it with your eyes. But yeah, from a food perspective, but just, I'm big on connection. Like, I feel like I'm blessed enough to have discernment, and it hasn't steered me wrong yet. I feel like when, I can know just off of a few bites and be like, this might get crazy.
44:12 Keke Palmer? I love the vibe when you go to somewhere. It just made me think about going somewhere, my family and friends being like, we walk right in door, we smell, ooh, this is about to be good.
44:18 Speaker 01 This is about to be good. You know it immediately. You walk in like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:22 Keke Palmer? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:23 Speaker 01 You start unbuttoning like, yeah, this about to get good.
44:25 Keke Palmer? Come on, unbutton.
44:25 Speaker 01 Take your jacket off, get comfortable. Yeah, I feel like you know it immediately.
44:29 Keke Palmer? You do. Now, we have to talk about in 2024, your followers spotting that worm.
44:34 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, yeah.
44:34 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, that was so spooky, oogie.
44:36 Speaker 01 So I didn't know what happened. Smokey, oogie, it's hilarious. So I didn't know what happened until I posted it and I woke up the next morning. And typical for me, night after a post might be 2 million, 3 million. It was at like 13. And I said, hold on. I said, what, I said, wow, I said, oh, this is a real good video, because the food was good. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I said, oh, this is doing really well.
45:01 Keke Palmer? They love this restaurant.
45:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, I said, oh, they love this spot. And then I went in comments, all I saw was worm, worm, worm. And I can't confirm or deny what it was. It did appear that something moved. I can't say it was a worm or not, because you would know, I don't want no smoke, because I don't know if that's what it was. But I did re-watch the video and it did appear that something moved.
45:19 Keke Palmer? I saw the movement.
45:20 Speaker 01 Now, you know, there's a, a bonito flakes. There's a, a, I don't know exactly what bonito flakes are, if somebody can look it up for me.
45:27 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
45:27 Speaker 01 But it's like a dried seaweed that kinda moves if it gets touched. So it could have been that.
45:33 Keke Palmer? That's what, so when I saw it, I also thought about, cause I saw a weird video before about some type of sushi that moves.
45:41 Speaker 01 It's like, it's, it's, I don't know what bonito flakes are, but it absolutely could have been that. It could have been a worm.
45:46 Keke Palmer? Right.
45:47 Speaker 01 Now here to confirm it or not, but all I know is I was healthy afterwards.
45:51 Keke Palmer? Thank goodness.
45:51 Speaker 01 And you know how the internet get, they immediately start telling me I had 72 hours to live. And I needed to go get dewormed and detaped.
45:58 Keke Palmer? Now y'all got me drinking my magnesium citrate all night.
46:07 Keke Palmer? That's so crazy. That's one of those weird ones where you just get spooked. They just spook you. You know what I mean?
46:12 Speaker 01 And you know, people be scaring people.
46:13 Keke Palmer? What is the craziest, most fun, if you can think of it, experience you've had while traveling, um, doing your food tricks?
46:20 Speaker 01 Oh, specifically food wise?
46:24 Keke Palmer? But you have a crazy funny one that was not food wise. Go ahead.
46:27 Speaker 01 Uh, I was, one, food wise, I would say, hmm. Yeah, I like you, Kiki. Uh, okay, so one, we went to South Carolina.
46:36 Keke Palmer? Okay.
46:37 Speaker 01 And his name is Bernard. I'm sure everybody has seen Bernard before. His name is BS Dining Experience, I think. He has a super big, uh, oil, oil fryer. And it's literally like 30 feet long.
46:49 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh.
46:50 Speaker 01 And he be frying bear paws. He fried python. He fried, uh, anything you can get your hands on, rabbit, squirrel. Uh, when we went, thank God, he was frying chicken. But it was some of the best chicken I've ever had in my life. But it was the countryest thing I've ever been a part of. We in this man backyard. The, when I tell you, the, so the, the grill here, right? His backyard stopped maybe like 10 feet after that.
47:15 Keke Palmer? I love stuff like that.
47:16 Speaker 01 After that, the woods.
47:18 Keke Palmer? I love stuff like that.
47:18 Speaker 01 And he like, I said, where you get the bear from? He gonna look at me and go.
47:23 Keke Palmer? The one.
47:23 Speaker 01 I said, I said, no, no, no, no, for real, where you getting from? And he legit, like, walked me back there, it's just nothing but like, open land. So they go back there and hunt, they grab the food, they take it, they take whatever hair off of it, put it in the fryer and pass it to you on the plate.
47:38 Keke Palmer? My uncle them used to cook coon, raccoon.
47:41 Speaker 01 See, again, I'm from Detroit, so they had some coon, uh, venison chili, squirrel chili.
47:47 Keke Palmer? Yup.
47:48 Speaker 01 Uh, yeah, I ain't eat no coon. I ain't eat no coon. I'll try everything once. I'll try everything, I'll try everything once, but I ain't eat no coon.
47:55 Keke Palmer? Crazy, man. Okay, now you've truly tried it all, so we need to do a quick little rapid fire, you know, to get your thoughts on the most hotly debated food topic. So I'll read a statement and you'll give an opinion.
48:05 Speaker 01 Let me sip one more time. Go ahead, go ahead. Hey, I'm with you.
48:09 Keke Palmer? Okay, pineapple on pizza.
48:12 Speaker 01 Yes.
48:12 Keke Palmer? Yes. Ordering a steak, well done.
48:15 Speaker 01 No. You might as well chew on the tire.
48:20 Keke Palmer? Is a hot dog a sandwich?
48:22 Speaker 01 Ooh, do it got toppings on it? If it got toppings on it? Nah, yes.
48:29 Keke Palmer? Velveeta in mac and cheese?
48:31 Speaker 01 Hell nah.
48:33 Keke Palmer? Chili without beans?
48:35 Speaker 01 Ooh, we just talked about this today. Chili without beans only go on hot dogs. Chili with beans go in a bowl with rice.
48:42 Keke Palmer? Cause maybe that's sloppy joe soup. Stop playing with us.
48:45 Speaker 01 It, it's not.
48:46 Keke Palmer? Come on. Mukbangs.
48:50 Speaker 01 They not doing no talking? Just straight?
48:52 Keke Palmer? They just?
48:53 Speaker 01 No. I can't do it. And as a somebody who smack a lot, I can't do it. Yeah.
48:58 Keke Palmer? Okay, butter dipped ice cream?
49:02 Speaker 01 Oh, is it hard butter? Do it, do it harden like a shell?
49:06 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, back in the day, my dad, do you remember back in the day?
49:09 Speaker 01 The, the chocolate, and the second you, it freeze, is it like that? If it's like that, then yes.
49:15 Keke Palmer? We'll say it's like that.
49:16 Speaker 01 Okay, yes.
49:16 Keke Palmer? I literally used to, that unlocked the core memory. My dad would get that.
49:20 Speaker 01 I think it's called like shelled or something like that?
49:22 Keke Palmer? We love that as kids, we love that.
49:24 Speaker 01 If they do that, then yes. If not, then no.
49:26 Keke Palmer? What are some food trends you really get behind? Cause there's so many online, but is there any that you see coming up?
49:32 Speaker 01 There's one right now. Uh, I wish I had her name. I hate when this happens.
49:37 Keke Palmer? I know.
49:38 Speaker 01 She
49:38 Keke Palmer? Cause you wanna shout them out.
49:39 Speaker 01 I really want to, but y'all gonna know who I'm talking about if you've ever seen him before. She explores black recipes that are lost.
49:47 Speaker 01 You know who I'm talking about?
49:47 Keke Palmer? No, but I love this concept.
49:49 Speaker 01 Okay, so she goes back into the history books and she gets black American cuisines that nobody makes anymore. Uh, and it's the dopest thing I've ever seen.
49:58 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?
49:59 Speaker 01 It's so dope. Like she makes dishes like
50:03 Keke Palmer? I cannot wait to go and look at that.
50:04 Speaker 01 Back in like old school country dishes that our grandmas, grandmas used to make. And like the fact that they got lost in translation and we don't make them anymore. You know when they be saying we losing recipes? She finding all of the recipes and that's
50:17 Keke Palmer? And how is she actually able to find them? What is she?
50:19 Speaker 01 Uh, I think she's just doing research, uh, because, because the research is there or the, the knowledge is there. I just think it's one of those things that you don't know if you don't know. Um, and I'm sure that they have a bunch of, uh, uh, like a plethora of, cause we still are blessed enough to have grandmas that are living. That know, uh, and grew up eating stuff like that. Uh, but the fact that it's in front of us, I think it's, it's super dope.
50:40 Keke Palmer? That's amazing. So behind the Keith Lee effect are obviously real families. But what's one moment that reminded you of the human side of your influence?
50:48 Speaker 01 Hmm, uh, I got a couple. One, I would say there was a place called Dynamite Korean BBQ. Uh, when we first went, it was in Vegas when we first went. Uh, the owner, he found out a week after getting his dream restaurant that he was diagnosed with stage street tongue cancer.
51:05 Keke Palmer? What?
51:06 Speaker 01 And he was, his whole life fighting for this restaurant. The second he get it, he started having mouth sores or he started having issues where he had to go to the hospital. And they told him he had, uh, tongue threes, uh, stage street tongue cancer. Um, the video he made initially was, hey, we don't have any people coming in. Uh, the rent is super expensive. I went in, maybe I would say, I forgot what month it was, but it was like in December. Two days later, line wrapped around a corner. Um, the owner was able to tell me he saw his dream come true. And he finally got everything that he was dreaming about and he was wishing for. And he was okay with that and right after he passed away. We did a memorial service forum where over 4,000 people showed up
51:51 Speaker 01 and patronized the place. We pay for everybody to come and eat. It was one of the dopest things. It was literally a community day before a community day or a family day before a family day. And everybody was able to come and enjoy. His wife is still living and she, the way she embraced me, like, I felt like she was like my auntie. Like, she embraced me like, "You don't know what this means, but thank you." And like, she gave me the biggest hug.
52:14 Keke Palmer? I love that.
52:15 Speaker 01 I would say that's one. It's so many because we have so many conversations with owners right after we leave. And the stuff that people tell me is, is literally like, second to none. So there's a place in New Orleans, one of the very first places outside of Vegas, that got the quote-unquote Keith Lee effect. This is the part that I've never told anybody. We was driving around, first food tour ever that we've done outside of Vegas. And I'm in this mindset of like, "This not gonna work." It's only happening in Vegas because it was like one-off or it was like random. Or like, "Oh, this just got booming," but outside of a different state, it's not gonna be the same.
52:51 Keke Palmer? Right.
52:52 Speaker 01 So, we driving around New Orleans, we got a list full of restaurants. I'm going through the list and I don't feel anything on his list. Like, you know, you look at something and you just, it's like, "Yeah, we can go," but nothing stood out to me, right?
53:05 Keke Palmer? Yes.
53:06 Speaker 01 I prayed while we was in the car and I said, "I thank God in advance that I find a place that not only would benefit from us being there, but actually has great food," and this is exactly how I'm talking to him, because I talk to him like he my cousin. "Actually has great food and is where we supposed to be at." Five minutes later, I [bleep] not, I got an email from a place called Cajun Licious. Small, it was Cajun Licious Grill or something like that. It was a small, family-owned shack. And when I say shack, like, it was like a 10 by 10 hut with four or five people in there. And they shoulder to shoulder. And we went in, some of the best chicken I've ever had in my life.
53:48 Speaker 01 And around the corner, and to this day, they just opened a brick and mortar in New Orleans. And they gonna be at the Family Day Festival.
53:56 Keke Palmer? Oh, my God.
53:57 Speaker 01 So that's, that's for sure, one of them ones that, to me, stands out because it was our first one. And I'm doubting the journey that we on and I'm asking God to, to put us, or thanking God in advance that we get put in this situation. And he literally put us where we supposed to be at.
54:10 Keke Palmer? When I'm literally sitting here, talking to you about this, I started to think to myself, I mean, some people have been food critics forever. And they don't necessarily get the impact of the Keith Lee effect. I mean, have you ever gotten feedback on that? Has any food critic been like, yo?
54:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, so I get it. I get it from both sides. I get the professional chefs who are like, he ain't a food critic. And he just an influencer. Like, I get that title. But then I also get people who have been in the space for a very long time. And they send love and respect for it.
54:42 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
54:43 Speaker 01 But I have, I've always had imposter syndrome and I'm getting a lot better. I don't see myself how nobody else see me. So, food critic, influencer, creator, I'm Keith.
54:52 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
54:52 Speaker 01 I'm Keith and nothing else but Keith. Only title that I have been accepting of lately is businessman.
54:58 Keke Palmer? Okay.
54:58 Speaker 01 Because out of anything that I have been blessed enough to do, it is, like I said, marketing from just a, and it has nothing to do with a professional, because I'm not a professional chef. I'm not a person who has a big, extensive culinary background. I'm just a person who has a food.
55:16 Keke Palmer? But that level of authorship, especially in industry like entertainment, we know it's not necessarily something you're trying to do. But you know, it becomes your public facing, so it becomes entertainment. People try to tell you who you are.
55:28 Speaker 01 Who you are.
55:28 Keke Palmer? They really, really do. And the thing is, like, these are things that I do. I do critique food.
55:33 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
55:33 Keke Palmer? I do do X, Y, and Z. I do, but that's not me. What I really am
55:38 Speaker 01 That's a fact.
55:39 Keke Palmer? is an architect. I'm really a business person. I'm really, this is something that I'm
55:42 Speaker 01 Because my mind works business first. My mind works marketing first. So, even when we doing the festival, we doing all of the marketing for it. Like, we on the ground. We went to Mardi Gras. And we just walking around. We went under the bridge. If you've ever been in New Orleans, under the bridge is like, it's a big bridge that goes throughout the entire city. And people just come under there and party.
55:59 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
55:59 Speaker 01 It's like just people walking around. There's car shows and there's food everywhere. People dancing, DJs. And we literally just walking in the middle of 10,000, 15,000 people. And it's not, again, from a place of like, oh, I got something to sell. It's like, no, this is what I feel like I'm called to do. And I'm going feet to the ground.
56:17 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
56:18 Speaker 01 And I think that's the only way, if you are going to sell anything, that's the only way to do it. Because it's from a place of like, I appreciate y'all. I think that the fact that y'all gonna spend a single dollar on me means the world to me. So my mind always goes marketing first.
56:30 Keke Palmer? Coming from Detroit, what is your connection to New Orleans? How did that become your?
56:35 Speaker 01 So, random enough, the very first place that we did food tour was New Orleans, but we was in Puerto Rico because my brother had got married. And I'm very spontaneous. So I told them, hey, I want to go somewhere and eat some food. And let's go record it. Mind you, we ain't never did a food tour before. We ain't never did no traveling for nothing, for food specifically, when it come to recording anything. So they looking at me like I'm crazy.
56:59 Keke Palmer? Right.
56:59 Speaker 01 And I'm like, let's just find the closest place. We trying to get on a Disney cruise. And they like, you can't get on a Disney cruise the same day.
57:06 Speaker 01 And so that's not how that work. So I said, what's the closest flight? And New Orleans happened to be the closest flight. And we went, and like I said, for, we was there for maybe a week. And it was still, in my opinion, some of the best food I've ever had in my life.
57:18 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh. So it's just like kind of that memory of this is where it all began?
57:21 Speaker 01 For sure.
57:22 Keke Palmer? Type of thing?
57:22 Speaker 01 And I'll give you something I ain't never gave nobody before. Only my family know this. My mom's family is from New Orleans. And I grew up going to New Orleans as a kid. And the reason I never spoke on it for real is because I was a kid. So I used to go with my, so my grandpa passed away when I was six, I believe, like five or six. So, thank you. But you know, people, especially if you from there, they're gonna be like, oh, where'd you, where'd you go when you was a kid? Or where, where your, your grandpa from? Or what's that? Yeah, I don't have those answers. I still got family on my mom's side that lives out there. But I don't have those answers. So I never said anything because I don't want the, you from the knife ward or? What ward you from? So I just always kept to myself. But yeah, I, I do have roots there.
58:05 Speaker 01 But again, this is a traveling thing. This isn't something that's only gonna be native to New Orleans.
58:09 Keke Palmer? Of course.
58:10 Speaker 01 This is something that will move around and we will go places like my hometown.
58:14 Keke Palmer? Midwest 2027.
58:15 Speaker 01 Amen.
58:16 Keke Palmer? I have a special connection to New Orleans because my, my parents, they met in New Orleans. They were doing like the speech and TARP competition that my mom won. And my dad was like, I'm in love with her. She's amazing. So I always think about my parents eating Popeyes.
58:29 Speaker 01 Shout out to Popeyes.
58:30 Keke Palmer? In New Orleans, shout out to Popeyes, exactly.
58:34 Keke Palmer? How nervous does it get, especially because of the Keatley effect now? Does it get to know that if you say something negative about a restaurant, they might really get messed up business-wise?
58:44 Speaker 01 It's crazy because what I may deem negative, or what I may deem positive, somebody may deem negative. And it's so, especially in a world of social media. If you are somebody who is positive 90% of the time, if you say anything that can remotely be deemed, oh, he don't like this, it gets turned into World War III. Other than if I was somebody who's always vulgar or always cussing. If I cuss once, oh, hell break loose.
59:15 Keke Palmer? People used to do that to me, too.
59:16 Speaker 01 Oh, oh, hell break loose.
59:17 Keke Palmer? And it's like, I can cuss a little.
59:19 Speaker 01 Yeah, I can cuss a little. What she say? I cuss a little bit.
59:24 Keke Palmer? I cuss a little.
59:25 Speaker 01 And I think that's one of those things where, when it comes to even negative critiques, that I don't be critiquing nothing. I just give you my opinion. And I come from a place or a perspective of a customer. And I come from a place or perspective of who, of somebody who just want to get on a plane, go to a random city, and just grab some good food.
59:47 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
59:48 Speaker 01 No ifs, ands, or buts. I just want to get on a plane, go somewhere. I don't want to have the biggest name to be able to eat there. I don't want to have to call 10 hours ahead. I don't want to have to have a whole bunch of people around me in order to eat. I just want to eat some great food. And I want my mom to be able to go in after me, and you don't know that's my mama, and she get the same experience.
1:00:07 Keke Palmer? Yeah. Yeah, you want the real response, you know? Food isn't necessarily polarizing, but you've used it to highlight how certain issues impact people's real lives. So I have to bring up you supporting Mexican restaurants during ICE. You know, I mean, it's still going on ICE raids. And then you sending, you know, asking brands to stop sending you PR instead donate food.
1:00:29 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
1:00:30 Keke Palmer? So I think that's really impactful and just shows that it means more to you beyond food. But I mean, how did those ideas come to you? Was this something that you and Ronnie, your wife, would speak about?
1:00:39 Speaker 01 I'm not a political person. I am a human being. So my perspective came specifically from a human being's standpoint. It had nothing to do with the politics of the situation or what side is what. I believe in right and wrong and I specifically chose that time and that place to speak on it because it was something that was near and dear to me. I've seen the behind the scenes of these restaurants. I've been blessed enough to have connections with a bunch of different backgrounds and ethnicities and backgrounds and I've been blessed enough to travel just like you have. And we all know this country does not exist without everybody.
1:01:17 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
1:01:18 Speaker 01 This is a place that is built on that.
1:01:20 Keke Palmer? Yes.
1:01:21 Speaker 01 And.
1:01:22 Keke Palmer? That's what we thought. So it's like, what's going on?
1:01:24 Speaker 01 And the second that I feel like that gets disrupted, if I'm blessed enough to have any voice to say anything about it, then I even, I think people was, and I don't know why, and again, I ain't never said this before, I don't know why people thought I was on the other side. I don't know why you were surprised.
1:01:40 Keke Palmer? People did?
1:01:41 Speaker 01 Yeah, people was like, I'm so shocked.
1:01:43 Keke Palmer? Why did you give that gave that?
1:01:45 Speaker 01 I have no idea. It ain't never gave that. It ain't never gave that.
1:01:50 Keke Palmer? Thank you for supporting the people. Everything is so community driven.
1:01:53 Speaker 01 Kiki, I'm one of the people. I'm amongst the people and I've always been with the people. So when people were shocked, I'm like, I'm shocked too. You know, when people get to looking around, I got to looking around too.
1:02:03 Keke Palmer? It's like that video when the dude is like.
1:02:07 Speaker 01 I'm like, we both looking at each other long. But yeah, I feel like it wasn't something that was a shock to the people who were closest to me.
1:02:14 Keke Palmer? Sure, sure.
1:02:15 Speaker 01 Because again, I've always been very outspoken when it comes to stuff like that because I believe in empowerment and the movement of black and brown people.
1:02:23 Keke Palmer? Yes.
1:02:23 Speaker 01 And if we don't do it, it's not gonna get done.
1:02:26 Keke Palmer? And we, and look, we, we all, we all are trying to do it from our standpoint. Like you said, at the end of the day, I'm a human being. I know I ain't gonna change the world. That's God's job.
1:02:34 Speaker 01 That's a fact.
1:02:34 Keke Palmer? But if I can do a little something.
1:02:36 Speaker 01 If I can say what's on my mind.
1:02:37 Keke Palmer? In my life, then I will, you know, I will. So I really appreciate you for that.
1:02:40 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
1:02:41 Keke Palmer? I also think there's something cool that I, you know, want to point out is that you turned down, you know, nearly a million dollar deal because you don't eat the brand of the food. And I think this is important to say because as a creator and in this economy, that's a tough decision for two reasons. A, because obviously ethically, but then also people do just need to live. You know, we never know when our next deal or things are coming through. But you to me showed an enormous amount of faith to know that if I say no to this and it's not true to me, the right thing is going to come my way. But I know it must have been difficult making that decision.
1:03:14 Speaker 01 Uh, I wasn't making money like that. So when they said a million dollars, I was like, how much? Who you gonna cash it out to, to me? So immediately, uh, my thought process was is this gonna be my last million dollars? And am I willing for this to be my last million dollars? Because it was something that went against who I am as a person. It had nothing to do with the food itself. It had more to do with what they wanted me to do with the food. So they wanted me to take a bite of it and go, it's a 10 out of 10.
1:03:49 Speaker 01 I ain't never been him.
1:03:50 Keke Palmer? Yo, leave me alone, don't talk to me.
1:03:51 Speaker 01 Kiki, I ain't never been him.
1:03:53 Keke Palmer? Please, Keith, don't talk.
1:03:56 Speaker 01 I said, I can't do it.
1:03:57 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
1:03:59 Speaker 01 I, I wanted to, to work with them, but from a community standpoint.
1:04:03 Keke Palmer? Yes.
1:04:04 Speaker 01 I, I brought up like, hey, let's do, and this is again, two, three, four years before the family day. I said, let's do a community day. Let's do something where it's brought by this person or brought by this company. And it really makes an impact within the community. Let's go to some schools.
1:04:19 Keke Palmer? Yes.
1:04:19 Speaker 01 Uh, let's go talk to some kids. Let's go and preach the importance of a nutritional balanced diet.
1:04:24 Keke Palmer? Yes.
1:04:25 Speaker 01 Let's do that. Like, let's go do something that is, is centered around that. And they was like, no, eat that and say it's a 10 out of 10.
1:04:31 Keke Palmer? Yeah, well, if you don't want to work with me, then you don't see me as a partner.
1:04:34 Speaker 01 That's a fact. You see me as somebody who got 10 million followers. And how many people on that platform got 10 million followers?
1:04:40 Keke Palmer? But the great thing about what you're saying is, first of all, this is the exact same way that I think about my, when I'm working with a brand. It's like, at the end of the day, if you see me as a partner, then you need to respect what I'm saying. And I'm telling you, because I know you're looking at me, you're saying I'm a black girl, and that you want the black audience. But I'm telling you right now, black, white, any of my audience members, because they're, it's all included.
1:04:57 Speaker 01 It's a demographic, yeah.
1:04:58 Keke Palmer? They don't, they know what I'm being, when I'm being real, when I'm being fake, what makes sense.
1:05:02 Speaker 01 I don't have a poker face.
1:05:03 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean? And if you don't want them to look at you crazy, because you got me up here.
1:05:07 Speaker 01 It's going backfire.
1:05:08 Keke Palmer? Being crazy, it's going backfire on all of us. So like, it's like.
1:05:10 Speaker 01 That's why I said it would be my last million dollars. Because the people who rock with me and the people who know who I am, they immediately is gonna be like, oh, that's not him. And how fast did that happen? Oh, it's been a year since everything took off, and he already with the million dollars, he already took it. Oh, he didn't, he got bought out that quick.
1:05:26 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean?
1:05:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, he got bought out that quick. You can't buy me for a hundred million.
1:05:28 Keke Palmer? And the great thing about it is that people then, at that point, will know, this is how you work with me.
1:05:32 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
1:05:33 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean? And they're like, I can't work with you.
1:05:35 Speaker 01 For sure.
1:05:35 Keke Palmer? But you gotta work with me.
1:05:36 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
1:05:37 Keke Palmer? You know?
1:05:37 Speaker 01 You never want the title as somebody that's difficult to work with, but you also never want the title as somebody that's super easy to work with either.
1:05:43 Keke Palmer? To the point where you just do, you, you, there's no, there's no thought or intentionality.
1:05:47 Speaker 01 Oh, he'll do anything. Oh, we, because, okay, this is something I want to stress. For people who are just getting into this space, or are, want to get into this space, that all of these brands talk to each other. They all know each other. So if you accept a rate in one spot, he getting on the phone and he saying, oh, he just quoted you a million dollars? He just took fifty thousand over here. Oh, he just did it with no, I didn't even have to pay for his flight. He only got one hotel room. And it's sick to them. They do that, and they are talking over coffee after the conversation. Or they gonna get on the phone and say, hey, he, if you come to him, you gotta come correct.
1:06:21 Keke Palmer? You've gotta set a proper precedent.
1:06:22 Speaker 01 He got a family to feed. He got, he, he don't play about his wife. His wife gotta be there. His, his kids gotta be there. They don't play about that. And I feel like, once you set that, yes, it's gonna be hard at first. Yes, it's scary. Um, but the more that you say no, the more valuable your yes is. And the more valuable people are gonna value that. Because if you don't take yourself serious, nobody gonna take you serious. If you show up and you have ass and everybody gonna have ass because they like, oh, he don't even require that much.
1:06:50 Keke Palmer? Right.
1:06:50 Speaker 01 But if you show up and like, oh, I blessed enough to be him. They gonna treat you like you him.
1:06:55 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean? It's really true. You just gotta know your value, I think is also.
1:06:59 Speaker 01 Everything is a game. You gotta play it.
1:07:01 Keke Palmer? Come on.
1:07:01 Speaker 01 It's all a game.
1:07:02 Keke Palmer? You gotta know. You gotta know. Ah, well, my time is up. I'm really sad about this, but.
1:07:07 Speaker 01 This has been amazing.
1:07:08 Keke Palmer? Man, you, we kicking back being booed.
1:07:11 Speaker 01 You are the [BLEEP]. Kiki.
1:07:14 Keke Palmer? That's you, dawg.
1:07:15 Speaker 01 You and him, man.
1:07:16 Keke Palmer? That is you.
1:07:17 Speaker 01 You and him.
1:07:17 Keke Palmer? Now, I gotta play a game with you because I play a game with all my guests. You've traveled the country, you've eaten everything, so we had to switch things up for you when you come into the show. Okay, we're going to do a blind taste test. Yeah, a blind taste test. Here's how it works. We'll put on blindfold, try a new item every round, and give our honest takes and best guesses. After the tasting, blindfolds come off and we find out what we've actually been eating.
1:07:40 Speaker 01 Ah, come on.
1:07:41 Keke Palmer? Are you ready, Kiki? I did this just for you, Kiki.
1:07:43 Speaker 01 Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm super excited.
1:07:48 Keke Palmer? This feels almost like a fried, fried, uh, green tomato.
1:07:52 Speaker 01 Huh? It's like a who do you?
1:07:56 Speaker 01 Are you eating already?
1:07:57 Keke Palmer? I already put it in my mouth. I'm too quick.
1:07:58 Speaker 01 Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's like a pickle or something. Wait, it's like a fried pickle?
1:08:02 Keke Palmer? Mmm.
1:08:02 Speaker 01 Oh, no, that ain't no pickle.
1:08:03 Keke Palmer? Mine feels like fake meat.
1:08:09 Speaker 01 Kiki?
1:08:10 Keke Palmer? Yours feels like real meat?
1:08:11 Speaker 01 I don't know what this is.
1:08:14 Keke Palmer? I feel you on the pickle, though.
1:08:15 Speaker 01 It don't feel like nothing I've ever had before.
1:08:18 Keke Palmer? Uh-uh. And it's breaded, real breaded.
1:08:21 Speaker 01 Real breaded.
1:08:22 Keke Palmer? I'm gonna open this sucker up.
1:08:22 Speaker 01 I thought, wait, hold on. Hold on. There's a sauce in here.
1:08:25 Keke Palmer? I'm about to get to the grit.
1:08:27 Speaker 01 Wait. It might be fried tomatoes. You were, you were right. It fried?
1:08:31 Keke Palmer? Can we look?
1:08:32 Speaker 02 Yep, ready to take off the blindfold?
1:08:33 Speaker 01 Wait, hold on, no, no, no, no, no. Let me get the sauce first. The sauce gonna tell me.
1:08:37 Keke Palmer? Well, there was sauce.
1:08:40 Keke Palmer? That was right.
1:08:41 Speaker 01 Yeah, mhm. That is a fried tomato.
1:08:43 Keke Palmer? Mm-hmm.
1:08:44 Speaker 01 Maybe green tomato?
1:08:45 Keke Palmer? It's very good.
1:08:46 Speaker 01 It's seasoned well, eh?
1:08:47 Keke Palmer? Mm, mm.
1:08:48 Speaker 01 Boffo off?
1:08:49 Keke Palmer? What restaurant is this?
1:08:50 Speaker 02 Go for it.
1:08:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, fried green tomato. It's a spicy aioli.
1:08:56 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
1:08:57 Speaker 01 It didn't smell like a pickle. It felt like a pickle because I can grab this
1:09:00 Keke Palmer? Mm-hmm.
1:09:01 Speaker 01 tomato and it felt real.
1:09:02 Keke Palmer? And you know how them green tomatoes are a little bit sour? They still have a similar very, very good.
1:09:07 Speaker 01 That's good though.
1:09:07 Keke Palmer? I like this. Who did this? Who was these people?
1:09:09 Speaker 01 That tastes country.
1:09:10 Speaker 02 It's a Black owned restaurant.
1:09:11 Keke Palmer? Fixins.
1:09:11 Speaker 01 Oh, that's Fixins. I've had Fixins before. Shout out to Fixins.
1:09:14 Keke Palmer? Shout out to Fixins.
1:09:17 Speaker 01 I can't even find a plate.
1:09:18 Keke Palmer? Oh my gosh, Keith.
1:09:19 Speaker 01 Oh, it's a taco. Oh, it's a taco with green sauce. Wait.
1:09:23 Keke Palmer? For sure. For sure. I can feel the taco of it all. Mine's feels a tooth thick. Is that good?
1:09:28 Speaker 01 That is spicy, that a m-
1:09:30 Keke Palmer? Wait, really? Mm, uh-uh.
1:09:33 Speaker 01 God!
1:09:35 Keke Palmer? Uh-uh.
1:09:36 Speaker 01 Mm.
1:09:37 Keke Palmer? Uh-uh.
1:09:39 Speaker 01 God damn, was that that orange salsa? That ain't green.
1:09:42 Keke Palmer? I don't know about this, mama.
1:09:45 Keke Palmer? I don't know about this. Mine's is the fake meat. Uh-uh.
1:09:49 Speaker 01 Mm, mine's tastes like pineapple.
1:09:51 Keke Palmer? Yeah, mine has a lot going on.
1:09:52 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm. Um, it's spicy though.
1:09:56 Keke Palmer? I don't know about this.
1:09:56 Speaker 01 Did you taste the salsa? Dip your finger into the salsa.
1:09:59 Keke Palmer? I tasted that salsa. It was like habanero, just straight hot, no flavor.
1:10:02 Speaker 01 Straight habanero, immediate back of the tongue spice. Um, what meat is that?
1:10:07 Keke Palmer? The meat is not ripe.
1:10:12 Keke Palmer? I'm trying. I'm trying, Keith. This ain't good to me. Yeah, I'm very sorry to them.
1:10:20 Speaker 01 Sorry to that man.
1:10:21 Keke Palmer? Okay, I don't like this.
1:10:23 Speaker 01 It's very obviously a vegan.
1:10:26 Speaker 01 It is very obviously vegan.
1:10:27 Keke Palmer? Everything can be vegan.
1:10:28 Speaker 01 I don't think there was any separation of vegan and not vegan.
1:10:31 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
1:10:32 Speaker 01 I think you knew immediately that it was vegan.
1:10:33 Keke Palmer? I knew immediately it was vegan.
1:10:34 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:10:35 Keke Palmer? Everything can be vegan. Some, this is when you're doing a vegan thing and you do mushrooms.
1:10:39 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:10:40 Keke Palmer? You know, don't do the fake meat. Mushrooms, grilled things.
1:10:43 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
1:10:44 Keke Palmer? You know what I mean?
1:10:44 Speaker 01 What kind of meat substitute is that?
1:10:46 Keke Palmer? And I don't mean no shade. Because maybe to somebody that-
1:10:49 Speaker 01 Oh, I said it was orange and I didn't know it was orange.
1:10:50 Keke Palmer? This was-
1:10:51 Speaker 02 It's a red sauce.
1:10:51 Keke Palmer? This was just hot, by the way.
1:10:53 Speaker 01 That's hot.
1:10:54 Keke Palmer? This was just hot, no flavor.
1:10:56 Speaker 01 Habanero at all. He said, I don't, he said, I don't.
1:10:58 Keke Palmer? I don't want that. This wasn't right.
1:11:00 Speaker 01 He said, well-
1:11:01 Keke Palmer? By the way, I say this to say, if you are vegan. You might love this.
1:11:05 Speaker 01 Amen. See, that's why I rock with you.
1:11:07 Keke Palmer? This is that, you know.
1:11:08 Speaker 01 Because everything is not for everybody.
1:11:10 Keke Palmer? That's it.
1:11:10 Speaker 01 Amen.
1:11:11 Keke Palmer? Amen.
1:11:12 Speaker 01 Different shows with different folks. And that ain't your show.
1:11:14 Keke Palmer? Y'all can go and get rid of her.
1:11:17 Keke Palmer? Okay, this is hard as a brick. This is some dessert item.
1:11:21 Speaker 01 Wait, is it?
1:11:22 Keke Palmer? That they put too much **** on.
1:11:23 Speaker 01 This ain't dessert.
1:11:25 Keke Palmer? You know this is some **** dessert. Like crumble.
1:11:28 Speaker 01 Oh, this is a cookie.
1:11:29 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
1:11:29 Speaker 01 Girl, this is a, it's a hard ass cookie.
1:11:31 Keke Palmer? And it's hard as a brick.
1:11:34 Keke Palmer? Like, what the hell is going on?
1:11:35 Speaker 01 Kiki!
1:11:37 Keke Palmer? Guys, no.
1:11:38 Speaker 01 Wait, is, is crumble? Is it good? It's good? No, it ain't good?
1:11:44 Keke Palmer? It's good.
1:11:45 Speaker 01 Is it good?
1:11:45 Keke Palmer? It's a little bit good, friend. It's a little bit good.
1:11:50 Speaker 01 Um. I know it ain't, I know it ain't. I don't know it ain't good.
1:11:55 Keke Palmer? It's not bad, right?
1:11:56 Speaker 01 It's sweet.
1:11:57 Keke Palmer? It's sweet.
1:11:57 Speaker 01 It is overly sweet. I can't have my mind for it all.
1:12:00 Keke Palmer? Yeah. Because we knew it was a cookie.
1:12:02 Speaker 01 Oh, I did know it was a matcha cookie, though.
1:12:04 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh.
1:12:05 Speaker 01 It makes it better than the matcha cookie. This is it.
1:12:08 Keke Palmer? Why do they do this?
1:12:09 Speaker 01 What kind of cookie is this?
1:12:10 Keke Palmer? It's very sweet, it's very good. This one had to be snickerdoodle. This one I don't know.
1:12:14 Speaker 01 This is lemon and matcha?
1:12:16 Keke Palmer? Mmm. Can miss that one though?
1:12:19 Speaker 01 Oh, usual. I, I, I can taste the sweetness.
1:12:22 Keke Palmer? It tastes good. This is the thing. I don't usually like anything this large.
1:12:28 Keke Palmer? The moment that I see this size.
1:12:30 Speaker 01 You're, you're out.
1:12:31 Keke Palmer? I'm gone. But it does taste good.
1:12:34 Speaker 01 It is good, it's very good.
1:12:35 Keke Palmer? And they could easily make this smaller. You know what I mean?
1:12:39 Speaker 01 I will say, they are very hard. It's a very hard cookie.
1:12:42 Keke Palmer? But some people love all this monster cookie stuff.
1:12:45 Speaker 01 It's a very hard cookie.
1:12:46 Keke Palmer? Some people love this kids do.
1:12:48 Speaker 01 I should have grabbed this one first one, because this one not hard at all. This one real soft, you can see it falling apart.
1:12:53 Keke Palmer? It was very tasty, Keith.
1:12:56 Keke Palmer? I don't know why every time I say Keith, I always say Keith. I pronounce it with an F.
1:13:00 Speaker 01 I should have had that one first.
1:13:02 Keke Palmer? It was very good.
1:13:03 Speaker 01 Uh, cinnamon toast crunch.
1:13:04 Keke Palmer? It's very, this one, absolutely delicious.
1:13:07 Speaker 01 You're not a huge fan of this one, though.
1:13:09 Keke Palmer? I didn't love that taste. What did you think? You liked it?
1:13:11 Speaker 01 I, I liked the, the fact that it was citrusy at the end, and I could taste the matcha immediately.
1:13:16 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
1:13:16 Speaker 01 That one, I think is just softer and it has much of, like a buttery taste. It tastes like cereal. That tastes like, like, if I had some milk, that would taste like cinnamon toast.
1:13:24 Keke Palmer? Uh, yeah. That with a little dip of milk would be great. I'm giving this green one another chance.
1:13:30 Speaker 01 Do you drink matcha?
1:13:31 Keke Palmer? I like matcha.
1:13:32 Speaker 01 You do? We gotta get some matcha together.
1:13:35 Keke Palmer? You know some popping spots.
1:13:36 Speaker 01 I love some matcha.
1:13:37 Keke Palmer? Cause I hate when it, when it gets gritty.
1:13:39 Speaker 01 I can't stand gritty.
1:13:40 Keke Palmer? Am I eating matcha or I'm eating dirt? You know what I mean?
1:13:42 Speaker 01 You don't like, it's gonna be super earthy.
1:13:44 Keke Palmer? Yeah, I don't like when it goes super earthy like that. You know, I want the flavor.
1:13:47 Speaker 01 I like real matcha, though. I want that, like, whoo.
1:13:50 Keke Palmer? Wow, you want that. I'm up.
1:13:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, I want that kick, like.
1:13:53 Keke Palmer? What's your favorite type of food?
1:13:55 Speaker 01 Ooh, American cuisine. Black American cuisine.
1:14:00 Keke Palmer? I love.
1:14:01 Speaker 01 I love some black American.
1:14:03 Keke Palmer? So wait a minute.
1:14:04 Speaker 01 Black American food.
1:14:05 Keke Palmer? Black American plate, what's on yours?
1:14:07 Speaker 01 Ooh.
1:14:08 Keke Palmer? We need a protein and then give me some sides.
1:14:10 Speaker 01 Yams.
1:14:11 Keke Palmer? Yams without a doubt.
1:14:13 Speaker 01 Collard greens.
1:14:13 Keke Palmer? Collard greens.
1:14:14 Speaker 01 If I'm feeling in the mood, some fried catfish. Well, potato salad.
1:14:17 Keke Palmer? Baby catfish.
1:14:18 Speaker 01 Some fried catfish. I'm from Detroit. It gotta be fried catfish. If I don't got fried catfish, I love a wing. I don't like wing dings. It gotta be the whole wing.
1:14:27 Keke Palmer? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:14:28 Speaker 01 I wanna be able to do this.
1:14:29 Keke Palmer? Yeah.
1:14:30 Speaker 01 One of them like.
1:14:30 Keke Palmer? I'm not mad.
1:14:31 Speaker 01 Like, it gotta be a full.
1:14:32 Keke Palmer? I want the process.
1:14:33 Speaker 01 I want everything. If it's not, I hate smothered foods. That's the only thing I, I don't like when it comes.
1:14:37 Keke Palmer? Interesting.
1:14:38 Speaker 01 Like smothered.
1:14:39 Keke Palmer? Steak.
1:14:39 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:14:40 Keke Palmer? Smothered.
1:14:40 Speaker 01 I don't like none smothered and covered. I'm a texture person. So I took out the goddamn black photo. I'm a texture person.
1:14:47 Keke Palmer? You made it look cool.
1:14:48 Speaker 01 Yeah, I don't like nothing that's like engulfed in gravies and stuff.
1:14:52 Keke Palmer? I'm not mad at gravies and sauces.
1:14:54 Speaker 01 What's your protein?
1:14:55 Keke Palmer? My protein, 1,000% I'm here for catfish, all day long. Now, back in the day when I ate that, pork chop.
1:15:02 Speaker 01 Straight, it gotta be fried?
1:15:03 Keke Palmer? It's gotta be fried.
1:15:04 Speaker 01 You like it covered or just straight?
1:15:06 Keke Palmer? I like a little cover. It doesn't have to be though.
1:15:08 Speaker 01 Okay, but straight fried?
1:15:09 Keke Palmer? I'm into like, uh, my dad would do like, um, you know, uh, smothered steak. I do love smothered steak with some grilled onions. You could count me in.
1:15:16 Speaker 01 But see, that's not gravy smothered. You like, uh, you like peppers in.
1:15:20 Keke Palmer? Yes, yes.
1:15:20 Speaker 01 Okay, I can get down with that.
1:15:21 Keke Palmer? I like all that.
1:15:22 Speaker 01 I hate brown gravy and it's just like ladled.
1:15:25 Keke Palmer? And it's just that.
1:15:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, ladled. I can't stand it.
1:15:26 Keke Palmer? I can see that. Yeah, so my plate would be so similar to yours. Only thing I might add is a little side of a potato salad.
1:15:32 Speaker 01 What kind of potato salad? What color is it?
1:15:34 Keke Palmer? A little bit yellow.
1:15:42 Speaker 01 Only real potato salad eater know.
1:15:44 Keke Palmer? Why would I say that?
1:15:45 Speaker 01 Only real potato salad eater know. It gotta have a little tinge of yellow.
1:15:49 Keke Palmer? Like, why is it like that?
1:15:50 Speaker 01 It can't be white. It gotta have a little like, it can't be super yellow, but it gotta have like...
1:15:55 Keke Palmer? That is so pretty.
1:15:56 Speaker 01 Like one of them like, uh...
1:15:57 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, that would be so good, man. I'm hungry.
1:16:01 Speaker 01 Yeah, we gotta go, we gotta go eat.
1:16:02 Keke Palmer? We do, we do.
1:16:04 Speaker 01 This nigga has to cook it. It's sweet, dude.
1:16:05 Keke Palmer? That was so sweet, wow.
1:16:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, God is amazing, man. This is the honor of mine, bro. This is so dope.
1:16:10 Keke Palmer? Oh, my gosh, I'm so happy. I feel the same.
1:16:11 Speaker 01 You are the best, man.
1:16:12 Keke Palmer? Thank you so much, man. Seriously.
1:16:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, you are amazing.
1:16:16 Keke Palmer? This was so fun, guys.
1:16:21 Keke Palmer? Keith Lee's impact goes far beyond food. Yes, the content blows up, but it's the care behind it that really moves people. From the toughest seasons of his life to building something that feeds his family and supports entire communities. Keith has done this his way. And whether he's in a car, in a kitchen, or in your city, his videos always keep it real. If you're anywhere near New Orleans, make sure you check out Family Day. And I'll see you next time on Baby, This is Keke Palmer.
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