Pod Insights What Now? with Trevor Noah WORLD CUP Bonus Episode: The Pregame About this episode The World Cup is finally here! And as if Trevor’s World Cup Watch Party on YouTube wasn’t enough, every Monday throughout the tournament Trevor and his football frenemy Joe Opio will drop a special World Cup bonus episode of What Now? to break down the drama, brilliance, heartbreak, controversy, and occasional chaos that make the Beautiful Game the Beautiful Game.
In this World Cup preview episode, Trevor and Joe get into who did (and didn’t 😬) make the cut to represent their country, whether England is once again being dramatically overrated (Joe said it, @ him), and the surprisingly controversial new halftime show planned for the final.
Whether you can name every member of Brazil’s squad or you only tune in once every four years, Trevor and Joe will be with you for every twist and turn of football's biggest tournament.
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2:54 Trevor Noah? I was trying to think of how we can, how we can frame this.
2:58 Trevor Noah? If you're listening or watching this, you're about to embark on what I, what I like to think of as the most adversarial friendship you've ever experienced.
3:10 Speaker 01 I think they call it frenemy.
3:11 Trevor Noah? Frenemy.
3:12 Speaker 01 In America, yes.
3:13 Trevor Noah? No, so are we frenemies in football?
3:16 Speaker 01 Kind of.
3:18 Trevor Noah? We're friends in life.
3:19 Speaker 01 Yeah, bromance in life, but when it comes to football, yes. Oh, no, no, we never see eye to eye. We never see eye to eye.
3:24 Trevor Noah? I wonder if it'll change with the World Cup.
3:27 Speaker 01 It should, because the World Cup for me, oh, man, I'm so excited. You know me, the World Cup is like the pinnacle.
3:33 Trevor Noah? My man, the World Cup is...
3:34 Speaker 01 How do I explain it? It's funny, because Americans don't get it. It's like, for me as a football fan, it's like, it's like going to prom, but also like an Avengers movie premiere, but also like the Super Bowl. It's like everything, man, I'm so excited.
3:52 Trevor Noah? I'm very excited, man. Thank you for joining me. I should thank you for letting me join you on this football journey. Uh, thank you to everyone who's joining us. This is the first of many episodes where we're going to be delving into the FIFA World Cup 2026. That's its full name. I like that some people want to call it by its government name. The FIFA World Cup, because we just say the World Cup, and then other people are like, which World Cup?
4:15 Speaker 01 You know what I found funny? In South America, they don't even call it the World Cup. They just say mundial, the world. They don't even say Copa. They just...
4:23 Trevor Noah? That's how familiar it is.
4:25 Speaker 01 They just say mundial.
4:26 Trevor Noah? Yeah, you see, that's what, that's what we need. Cup.
4:28 Speaker 01 Just come.
4:29 Trevor Noah? Or world.
4:29 Speaker 01 Or world, that's and everyone understands what you're talking about.
4:32 Trevor Noah? Damn.
4:33 Speaker 01 But boy, am I excited. They're all into this roller coaster ride.
4:37 Trevor Noah? It's also the biggest World Cup, basically, that's ever happened, right? First World Cup to be in three countries.
4:43 Speaker 01 Yes.
4:44 Trevor Noah? Right, so it's Canada, the US, Mexico. Uh, it's the first World Cup that is gonna have, how many teams?
4:50 Speaker 01 Forty-eight teams.
4:50 Trevor Noah? Forty-eight teams.
4:51 Speaker 01 I think, I think of it as a typically American World Cup. It's supersized. Like they, they took it to McDonald's. Or they took it to one of their GMO farms and just pump it with those. You know, you've seen those like American chickens where you go like, wow. It's a supersized American World Cup.
5:10 Trevor Noah? Super sized American World Cup.
5:12 Speaker 01 Forty-eight teams.
5:13 Trevor Noah? And it is, you know what, actually, it makes it the perfect American World Cup, because what is America without Canada and Mexico? If you think about it, if you think about it honestly, I know a lot of people listening to this or watching this will be like, wait, wait, wait, what did you say? First of all, for the world, Canada is America.
5:28 Speaker 01 Yes.
5:28 Trevor Noah? I know that's not correct, but for the world, it is.
5:31 Speaker 01 We don't have time to.
5:32 Trevor Noah? And, and what is America without Mexico? Think of all the food people are gonna be eating while watching the games. Most of it will be Mexican food.
5:40 Speaker 01 Mexican food, yes.
5:41 Trevor Noah? You know what I mean? What, you take it out of, what is the Super Bowl without Mexican food? What is, like, you know?
5:47 Speaker 01 It's very interesting, because the, the, especially the thing you said about Canada and America, because Canadians, like, we're like, no, we're not Americans, but where we come from, we have like, we're like, no, we don't have time to.
5:57 Trevor Noah? Yeah, no, no, no.
5:58 Speaker 01 Dice you and splice you, you're all Americans.
6:00 Trevor Noah? It's the same way, Africa's a continent for them.
6:02 Speaker 01 Yes.
6:02 Trevor Noah? It's like, it's the same vibe.
6:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
6:04 Trevor Noah? It's, it's, it's pretty much the same vibe. And they've got a half, this will be the first World Cup with a halftime show.
6:08 Speaker 01 I think that's the thing that's pissing off most soccer fans. I know that's the thing that's exciting most American fans, but most soccer or football fans, oof, they are pissed off. They are mad about the halftime show. I don't know what you think about it, but they are mad.
6:22 Trevor Noah? We're doing it or not?
6:23 Speaker 01 No, no, no, it's going to be Shakira, it's going to be Madonna, it's going to be BTS.
6:27 Trevor Noah? I thought they said Drake was doing it. What happened?
6:29 Speaker 01 No, Drake isn't doing it. I think it's, it's going to be curated.
6:32 Trevor Noah? But when did that change? Because I remember an announcement where they said Drake will be doing the halftime show.
6:38 Speaker 01 Yeah, but then Kendrick happened.
6:40 Trevor Noah? You're telling me that Kendrick lost to Drake so badly?
6:43 Speaker 01 I thi- I think no.
6:43 Trevor Noah? That FIFA came and said, Drake, you are in, but after we saw what happened.
6:50 Speaker 01 Yes, cause FIFA doesn't like losers, but I think what happened was, no, no, no, no. No, cause you are right, Kendrick. Drake was very involved. He was like an ambassador for Canada.
6:57 Trevor Noah? Drake was? I thought Drake was doing it.
7:00 Speaker 01 No, it's going to be curated by Coldplay, which means, well, if you're, if there are any.
7:06 Trevor Noah? Any what? CEOs in the audience, they need to hide themselves?
7:09 Speaker 01 Yes, I'm just saying, stay away from the screens, but it's going to be.
7:12 Trevor Noah? You make it sound like Coldplay set that up as part of their show.
7:15 Speaker 01 Well, it worked, didn't it?
7:16 Trevor Noah? It would be an amazing, it would be amazing PR if they just did that at every show.
7:20 Speaker 01 Can I imagine if you did it at the World Cup? Cause then it would blow up even larger than.
7:24 Trevor Noah? That is probably my favorite thing at the World Cup is them cutting to the fans.
7:28 Speaker 01 Or the producers. No, but the thing about.
7:30 Trevor Noah? Not the producers, the cameraman. Like, let me tell you something. If anyone who works as a cameraman, their ability to find two things in a crowd of fifty thousand people, they will find the most beautiful woman and they will find the strangest looking fan. I don't know how they do it. I don't know how they find them. I don't know, like, there's not a single match I've watched where I've gone, huh, everyone here is just normal.
7:51 Speaker 01 No, it's funny because when you watch European games, they don't cut to the beautiful women as much as when you watch African Cup of Nations games.
7:59 Trevor Noah? Or, or, or Copa Libertadores?
8:01 Speaker 01 Yes, cause I think it's also like a very cultural thing, cause I think in America and in the West, if you cutting to beautiful women, then it's seen as maybe sexist or maybe, what in Africa and South America is seen as just appreciation of the beautiful game.
8:15 Trevor Noah? Yes, the beautiful game.
8:16 Speaker 01 And in America, I think they're also like cutting to kids crying. But to go back to the halftime show.
8:20 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
8:21 Speaker 01 The reason I think fans are very pissed is, you imagine you're watching the World Cup, let's say the last World Cup.
8:26 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
8:27 Speaker 01 You're a Fran- you're a France fan, you're two nil down at halftime, and then you have to watch Madonna and Shakira dancing. When all you need is just like the players to come back. So that's why most fans are like, we don't need. Cause American, American fans don't care. They'll watch a halftime show when their team is losing. But football fans, I think there's too much investment.
8:47 Trevor Noah? When it, when it comes to the Super Bowl, the halftime show is oftentimes more popular than the Super. Like you'll see the ratings spike during the, the halftime show. But for the World Cup, it's going to be interesting to see, cause a World Cup half, like a normal halftime is fifteen minutes.
9:06 Speaker 01 Yes.
9:07 Trevor Noah? And now this one, they say is going to be thirty minutes.
9:09 Speaker 01 It's going to be, I think it's going to be eleven, but the whole halftime is going to be thirty minutes. Cause normally it's fifteen minutes.
9:14 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
9:14 Speaker 01 The halftime.
9:15 Trevor Noah? Wait, so they're gonna make it eleven from fifteen?
9:17 Speaker 01 No, they're going to make eleven, they're going to add eleven. So you're, you're right.
9:20 Trevor Noah? Add eleven minutes.
9:21 Speaker 01 Halftime is going to be thirty minutes. Normally it's fifteen minutes.
9:23 Trevor Noah? Right.
9:24 Speaker 01 But then they're going to add eleven minutes of short time and dancing, which will make it like twenty six, thirty minutes. So the teams are going to be out there in the dressing rooms for thirty minutes. But what I'm saying is.
9:36 Trevor Noah? Do you think, do you think that's gonna, do you think that's gonna help the teams or do you think that'll hurt the teams? Like what, what would you, what would you rather have if you're a, if you're a winning team or a losing team? Would you rather have more time or less time?
9:46 Speaker 01 No, that's why I think like both sets of fans, if you're winning, you just want the game to be over so that you can get to the. You just want to come back out.
9:54 Trevor Noah? You want a short halftime?
9:54 Speaker 01 Yes. And if you're losing, you just want, you, you don't want to like linger in that state of losing. You want your team to come back out. Maybe mount a comeback. So no one is going to be happy about halftime.
10:07 Trevor Noah? Well, it depends on how the halftime is. Maybe it's a boring game and then the halftime saves it.
10:11 Speaker 01 The, the before game is never boring. You've spoken like a true American.
10:15 Trevor Noah? You never know.
10:16 Speaker 01 It's never, it's a final, even near, near.
10:18 Trevor Noah? But finals can be, look, finals can be cagey. That's the problem. Finals, you can find everyone's a little tense, everyone's a little nervous. Right now, we're not even thinking about that though, cause right now, it's all just about like who's gonna be in the World Cup.
10:31 Speaker 01 Who's making it to the.
10:32 Trevor Noah? Yeah, like the selections of the teams. Yo bro, have you seen, have you been watching the Brazil reaction videos to the players being called up to the World Cup?
10:41 Speaker 01 I was watching them with my American friends and they thought they were over the top. And I told them, no, they are par for the course. If you get called up.
10:47 Trevor Noah? What do you mean they thought it was over the top?
10:49 Speaker 01 No, because like, you know, again, when you watch American sports, when they call up the dream team.
10:53 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
10:54 Speaker 01 You know, LeBron is like, okay, we're going to go mess up some Angorans, but he's not like losing his mind. And then like we watched Neymar.
11:02 Trevor Noah? Oh yeah, let me show you, let me show you this, this video.
11:04 Speaker 01 And people laughing and people running around.
11:05 Trevor Noah? This was, this was like one of my favorite videos here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me see if I can get this thing going. This was, yeah, this was the Neymar one. Look at this.
11:13 Speaker 01 Look at the tension.
11:18 Speaker 01 And they are calling them up in alphabetical order, yes.
11:25 Trevor Noah? So now they know Neymar is coming up. The woman, the woman next to Neymar, she's like feeling it, look.
11:33 Speaker 01 So they thought that was over the top.
11:34 Trevor Noah? Right, you know what's wild is it's like he won the World Cup.
11:40 Speaker 01 No, just make it.
11:40 Trevor Noah? Look at this, look at this.
11:41 Speaker 01 And this is Neymar. He's not like some scrub player. He's not like some, this is Neymar, probably the greatest star in Brazil has produced in the last twenty years. And that's how much it means to him. He's crying, he got emotional. And so when Americans watched that, they went like, he's just getting called up. And I tried to explain to them that it's like, you know, you know.
12:03 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but wait, but the, the thing, the thing for me is like.
12:08 Speaker 01 He's hugging everyone, his family, his physio.
12:11 Trevor Noah? The, no, no, you know, you know what it is for me is I like that people were filming their own potential pain. Cause this is, this is essentially like.
12:22 Speaker 01 He doesn't know, yes.
12:22 Trevor Noah? No, but I'm saying it's.
12:26 Trevor Noah? First of all, I don't know why they have to do it like this. You could just put it out on the internet immediately. They make it like the Oscars, cause you have to sit there and then like wait for your name. He could also phone the players ahead of time and be like, yo, you're in the squad.
12:42 Speaker 01 No, but in Brazil, it's like the Oscars.
12:45 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm saying like, why do they have to do it like that? Cause it's supposed to be an event. I'm feeling for the fans is what I'm saying.
12:51 Speaker 01 So this is what happens in Brazil, the whole country, or like in football-loving countries, the whole country comes to a standstill. It's an event.
12:58 Trevor Noah? Everyone waits for the, yeah, they wait for the announcement.
13:00 Speaker 01 It's almost like, think of it as the night of the presidential election in the US. That's how it is. Everyone is waiting on tentacles. It's like, there has to be surprise. It has to be surprise. So the players are watching. And my American, my American friends went like, oh, but this is over the top. That's what I'm saying. No, this is how it feels. When you guys get your college admission letters.
13:21 Trevor Noah? I like how you're throwing in that you have American friends.
13:23 Speaker 01 I, I have.
13:24 Trevor Noah? You're really making sure that we know, eh? You're making sure that we know.
13:27 Speaker 01 I'm, I'm, I'm.
13:27 Trevor Noah? You're like, hey, let me tell you about my American friends.
13:29 Speaker 01 I'm, I'm, I'm like a white guy in the south. Let me tell you about my black friend. I've collected a bunch of them.
13:35 Trevor Noah? It can seem like, it can seem like we don't have the, so my American friends, to those of you.
13:40 Speaker 01 No.
13:41 Trevor Noah? What are you trying to like shine on your Ugandan back home?
13:43 Speaker 01 No, because if I was watching this.
13:45 Trevor Noah? Joe, Joe's trying to be like, this is my, my American friends. Why are your American friends more special than your other friends, Joe?
13:51 Speaker 01 If I'm watching this, if I'm watching this with my Ugandan friends, they get it. Totally get it. They're like, oh, we understand the reaction.
13:57 Trevor Noah? Do your, do your American friends know who is or isn't your American friend? You should do these announcement videos for them.
14:02 Speaker 01 And it's.
14:03 Trevor Noah? You should announce like who's in your American.
14:04 Speaker 01 No, you see.
14:05 Trevor Noah? What, what, what come to Joe's American friends list? Ah.
14:09 Speaker 01 And then people are surprised.
14:10 Trevor Noah? These are the people who have made it.
14:11 Speaker 01 Eh, this is a top five.
14:12 Trevor Noah? Eh, John B. John B. Congratulations, eh. You are my friend. You are my American friend. Eh, look at this. Yeah, this was, this was crazy. This was one of my favorites, bro. Like, this is where you go.
14:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, this is the one where.
14:24 Trevor Noah? This is the Brazil goalkeeper. Look at this.
14:26 Speaker 01 Third highest goalkeeper.
14:27 Trevor Noah? Third?
14:28 Speaker 01 Yes.
14:28 Trevor Noah? Look, look at this.
14:29 Speaker 01 He gets called up.
14:30 Trevor Noah? He's not even gonna play?
14:31 Speaker 01 Yes. He's the guy, so he's the guy on the ground and he totally passes out. He blacked out out of excitement and no one in his family noticed because I'm busy doing laps around the car.
14:43 Trevor Noah? If you, if you pass out from an announcement, I'm gonna take you out of the team if I'm the coach.
14:49 Speaker 01 No, but that's the passion you need.
14:50 Trevor Noah? No, no, no, bro.
14:50 Speaker 01 That's someone who is willing to put their life in.
14:51 Trevor Noah? Hey man, let me tell you something. If you lose consciousness because of an exciting moment, I'm not taking you to the World Cup, my brother.
14:57 Speaker 02 You don't need, you don't need players fainting before he has to save a penalty.
15:00 Trevor Noah? Imagine, bro. The guy, the guy's so excited. Oh, he saves a penalty and then he faints because of his excitement. This for me.
15:07 Speaker 01 No, you need a player.
15:08 Speaker 02 Like the videos of the goat.
15:09 Trevor Noah? Yo, yo.
15:10 Speaker 01 Trevor, you're going to world. Yes.
15:12 Trevor Noah? Let me tell you something. You are out. If I'm the coach and you faint because I've selected you, you're out. You know why?
15:20 Speaker 01 If you're a dating app, do you want a girl who passes out in excitement when you swipe right?
15:25 Trevor Noah? No.
15:26 Speaker 01 Or do you want a girl who?
15:27 Trevor Noah? No, you don't.
15:28 Speaker 01 I want a girl who passes out in excitement when I swipe right.
15:30 Trevor Noah? My man, first of all, I don't know what app you're on. If somebody faints because you've selected them on a dating app.
15:37 Speaker 01 I feel chosen. They feel chosen.
15:39 Trevor Noah? You need to run in the opposite direction because this person is, this is, this is psychopathic behavior.
15:46 Speaker 01 Exactly. Trevor's spoken like a man who has options.
15:51 Speaker 01 I'm speaking, I'm speaking like a normal man.
15:53 Trevor Noah? You know, you know, so you know what this, this, this got me thinking about like with the selection, now the big news is like who was left out. I mean, this, this happens to every team.
16:01 Speaker 01 The funny thing about the keeper, before you get out, we get to the person who was left out. Funny thing about the keeper, he got called out for Qatar twenty twenty two. And he played only ten minutes. So he knows he's not going to get like a full game.
16:13 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but it's, but it's being chosen as, you know what I mean? It's, it's, it's the Brazil national team. And you're thirty eight. I get it. The, the, the surprising thing to me is like who coaches choose to leave out sometimes?
16:26 Speaker 01 Because when they call up someone, they have sacrificed another.
16:29 Trevor Noah? Yeah, I was surprised that João Pedro didn't get selected for, for the Brazil national team.
16:36 Speaker 01 I was surprised as well.
16:36 Trevor Noah? I know Chelsea hasn't, I know Chelsea hasn't done well, but.
16:40 Speaker 01 He was their player of the season.
16:41 Trevor Noah? I, if you watch every single minute that João Pedro has been on a pitch this season and in previous seasons.
16:48 Speaker 01 He's been a difference maker, yeah.
16:49 Trevor Noah? There are few players who make more of an impact and also few players who are as dynamic and versatile as he is. João Pedro can hold up the game. For, and if you look at his size and stature, you don't think he can hold up the game the way he does, but he does. Joao Pedro can spur an attack on the wing. Joao Pedro can play like an like an advanced forward position where he's just waiting for a through ball and he's gonna finish it. He can cut back, he can dribble, he can trap the ball like literally like he's got glue.
17:23 Speaker 01 No, you're right.
17:23 Trevor Noah? I was surprised that they left him behind.
17:25 Speaker 01 The irony is.
17:26 Trevor Noah? They took they took Ryan.
17:27 Speaker 01 Yes.
17:27 Trevor Noah? By the way, and can I just say, Ryan is, yo, shout out to Ryan. Ryan is one of my favorite, like, you you know, in our football group, I talked about him long ago.
17:35 Speaker 01 Yes, yeah.
17:35 Trevor Noah? I love Ryan from Bournemouth in the in the English Premier League.
17:38 Speaker 01 And they had a better season, yeah. They had a better season than yours. But the thing is, the thing with Joao Pedro, the irony.
17:43 Trevor Noah? He's one of my favorite, favorite, favorite players.
17:45 Speaker 01 I think the irony was, Joao Pedro actually was interviewed, short, I think, three or four weeks before the call up, and he wanted to call, I want Neymar to come. He was pro Neymar coming because he didn't think that Neymar coming to the World Cup would affect his place on the team. No, he did.
17:59 Trevor Noah? Joao Pedro in an interview said, I hope Neymar comes.
18:01 Speaker 01 Yeah, of course.
18:02 Trevor Noah? But you you see that they didn't listen to him. He said, I hope he comes.
18:04 Speaker 01 Yes.
18:05 Trevor Noah? As in, he was assuming he's already on the team.
18:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, no, no, he, yeah.
18:08 Trevor Noah? He didn't say, I hope he goes.
18:09 Speaker 01 Yes.
18:10 Trevor Noah? He said, I hope I hope Neymar comes to the World Cup.
18:12 Speaker 01 And then also, the crazy thing is, Joao Pedro also had a call up party, watch party with his family. And unlike Neymar's, his was.
18:22 Trevor Noah? Did we see the video?
18:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, I thought, yeah, I can't, yeah.
18:24 Trevor Noah? Can we try and find that video? I wanna see.
18:26 Speaker 01 It's right there, you know, you, yeah.
18:27 Trevor Noah? Oh, let's see. Okay, we got this. Hold on.
18:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, and it turned into a wake.
18:30 Trevor Noah? Oh, man.
18:32 Speaker 01 It was.
18:32 Trevor Noah? Oh, man. Let's see here.
18:34 Speaker 01 It's crazy to see a party than at your funeral.
18:36 Trevor Noah? Let's see. Let's see. I wanna see.
18:41 Trevor Noah? Okay.
18:43 Speaker 01 Yeah, so this is the family waiting.
18:54 Trevor Noah? This is his whole family.
18:55 Speaker 01 Yeah, so the moment they call up, Rapinha, because they're calling them in alphabetical order.
19:00 Speaker 01 Yeah.
19:13 Speaker 01 So you can see them realising that he's not making the plane. So this.
19:17 Trevor Noah? Okay, can I, can I just say, can I just say a few, wait, Joe, can I just say a few things?
19:22 Trevor Noah? Number one.
19:27 Trevor Noah? Why do you put the video out?
19:30 Speaker 01 They were live streaming.
19:31 Trevor Noah? They were live streaming?
19:32 Speaker 01 Yeah, all the videos were being livestreamed.
19:34 Trevor Noah? Oh my goodness, man.
19:35 Speaker 01 So they didn't even have the option of recording.
19:36 Trevor Noah? What, what has happened?
19:38 Speaker 01 Because you're so sure you're gonna get called out.
19:39 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but what has happened in the world? I, you know, I, I'll see videos on the internet all the time where
19:46 Trevor Noah? people broadcast their shame and pain and I'm like, what do you? What, have you ever seen these videos of people who are like? This was the moment I found out that I got fired. And it's just them like in a meeting and it's like.
20:01 Trevor Noah? I'm like, what, what? You know why you got fired? Because you filmed yourself in meetings, bro.
20:05 Speaker 01 The whole time.
20:05 Trevor Noah? That's why you got fired.
20:06 Speaker 01 No, but I.
20:07 Trevor Noah? Like, why?
20:08 Speaker 01 No, but I think he was, he was so sure he was gonna pull.
20:10 Trevor Noah? No, but Joe, why not record it? And then put it out afterwards? You, you can, you can also do that.
20:17 Speaker 01 No, but.
20:18 Trevor Noah? Also, also, I love how. Can I just say? Because I'm a Joe Pedro fan.
20:22 Speaker 01 Yes.
20:23 Trevor Noah? But I do think it's funny how.
20:25 Speaker 01 His videos not as.
20:26 Trevor Noah? You bring your whole family, you bring everyone. And then like. Your family's basically shitting on other players now.
20:34 Speaker 01 Yes, no.
20:34 Trevor Noah? Because you heard like when some of the names are called.
20:36 Speaker 01 Yes.
20:37 Trevor Noah? This is like, nah, that loser, nah, that idiot.
20:40 Speaker 01 Okay, I'll say this, you know, I feel like that's what would happen if we had like livestreams of families of Oscar contenders actually watching the Oscar ceremony.
20:50 Trevor Noah? Pitch that.
20:50 Speaker 01 Yes.
20:51 Trevor Noah? Yo, that's a great idea. We need to pitch that.
20:53 Speaker 01 Because what happens is the Oscar losers normally, you know, react in a very.
20:56 Trevor Noah? We should trademark that. We'll do it, we'll do it when I host the Oscars, we'll do that.
20:59 Speaker 01 Yes, you should have the family.
21:01 Trevor Noah? We're gonna have the families livestreamed at home.
21:03 Speaker 01 They are like, no.
21:04 Trevor Noah? Just so that they can scream out things.
21:05 Speaker 01 Michael B. Jordan was trash.
21:09 Trevor Noah? That'll be so dope, bruh. No, that'll be so much fun.
21:14 Speaker 01 No, but you are laughing at me.
21:15 Trevor Noah? It's just a vampire movie. Nobody deserves anything.
21:19 Speaker 01 You were laughing at me for saying swipe right. Now, you see what happens when you swipe right on a girl and she ghosts you? That's what happened with your Pedro.
21:25 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but this, but again, why? You don't have to tell, you know, you know what's nice about a dating app? It's between you and the app.
21:32 Speaker 01 Yeah, but when, if you're so sure.
21:34 Trevor Noah? It's between you.
21:35 Speaker 01 If you're so sure the girl is going to say yes.
21:36 Trevor Noah? Yes, why are you live streaming you swiping on a dating app?
21:40 Speaker 01 Because I'm so sure the girl is going to swipe right.
21:42 Trevor Noah? Then, then you know what? This is a lesson in humility, my friend.
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25:02 Trevor Noah? The Spanish T-Bone, this was, I mean, these are your boy. Who are you supporting for the World Cup?
25:08 Speaker 01 I'm supporting Messi because I would want Messi to do. I'm a huge Messi fan.
25:12 Trevor Noah? I mean, you don't have to tell us that.
25:13 Speaker 01 I think he has given so much football.
25:15 Trevor Noah? It's crazy that you don't even say I'm supporting Argentina.
25:17 Speaker 01 No, I'm supporting Messi. I don't care about Argentina. I want Messi to do a repeat, but while my heart says Argentina, I think my brain says France or Spain.
25:29 Trevor Noah? My mind's telling me Messi, but my body, my body wants France or Spain. That song didn't do as well on the charts, but now there's a gap. I think you can get the remix rights to that song very cheap, Joe. I know you've always been wanting to make it and it's been, it's been very expensive for you to get the rights. I think you can get them now.
25:47 Speaker 01 I think Spain is to start and I think given the fact that Gavi.
25:53 Trevor Noah? Why was Gabi so surprised though?
25:55 Speaker 01 No, because he just came off an injury.
25:56 Trevor Noah? Oh, okay, okay, okay.
25:57 Speaker 01 He was injured, he was injured for a year and a half.
26:00 Trevor Noah? No, good for him.
26:00 Speaker 01 Again, it shows that this is not just a Brazilian phenomenon. It's like.
26:04 Trevor Noah? Wait, wait, is, is, is.
26:06 Speaker 01 La Minhamal.
26:07 Trevor Noah? Is Gabi the same as Gabi?
26:09 Speaker 01 No.
26:10 Trevor Noah? Is Gabi another player?
26:11 Speaker 01 Gabi is another player. Gabi used to play for Atletico.
26:13 Trevor Noah? Okay, I thought Gabi and Gabi were the same, but depending on how you speak Spanish.
26:16 Speaker 01 Gabi is a new young, yeah, I wouldn't call him new, he's nineteen now, he's a player for Barcelona, got injured.
26:22 Trevor Noah? No, no, no, I know, I always, I called him Gabi though.
26:24 Speaker 01 No, he's Gabi.
26:25 Trevor Noah? So he's Gavi?
26:26 Speaker 01 Yes, Gabi.
26:26 Trevor Noah? Oh, okay, alright, I got it.
26:28 Speaker 01 Gavia, hmm?
26:29 Trevor Noah? That's your boy.
26:30 Speaker 01 Like Pablo Gavia Escobar.
26:32 Trevor Noah? Look at you getting excited, my man, huh? Is there enough space in those, is there enough space in those pants?
26:37 Speaker 01 You know I love this.
26:38 Trevor Noah? You start talking about Barcelona players.
26:39 Speaker 01 You know I love these young boys of Barcelona.
26:41 Trevor Noah? You start talking about Barcelona players, we've got to get Joe into some sweats. Get out of those jeans.
26:44 Speaker 01 You know I love these young boys of Barcelona, you know I love them.
26:47 Trevor Noah? Relax yourself here, Epstein, relax yourself, Jeffrey. Hey, busy out here talking about young boys, whoa, whoa. Hey, people will clip that, my man. You want to relax you, ay, yo, as the streets would say.
26:58 Speaker 01 There are many of us though. Ay, yo, when it comes to football, there are many Jeffrey Epstein's, many Barcelona fans.
27:04 Trevor Noah? Joe does not care about being clipped.
27:05 Speaker 01 Oh, we love them young, oh. La Minhamal, Gabi, Pedri, oh, the younger, the better.
27:12 Trevor Noah? You know, I don't know what's worse, the fact that you're saying it like that? Or the fact that you're so good at rubbing your hands like a villain? Because like your technique is flawless, you have flawless rubbing hand villain technique. Oh, man, yo, you know what we have to talk about? England.
27:26 Speaker 01 Oh, that's, yeah, no, that's, I don't even know what to talk, like.
27:29 Trevor Noah? No, okay, let's, okay, let's break it down, let's set the stage. So, uh, um, for those who don't know. England is probably the. How, how can I phrase this? I would argue, England is probably the most talented team.
27:47 Trevor Noah? To not do as well as they should at World Cups.
27:51 Speaker 01 Or maybe they're the most hyped team.
27:54 Trevor Noah? No, they're, look, no, no, look, look, they're definitely hyped, but if we're honest, if we're honest, let's be fair to them. I know it's easy to hate on the English.
28:01 Speaker 01 Yes.
28:01 Trevor Noah? And we should because of our histories.
28:03 Speaker 01 Yeah.
28:03 Trevor Noah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have, we have scars of colonization.
28:06 Speaker 01 We, we, yeah, we, we owe it to our ancestors.
28:08 Trevor Noah? Of course, of course, of course. I mean, the language we're speaking right now is a gift from them. How can we not use it to slander them back? Do you know what I mean? What a waste of language that would be.
28:16 Speaker 01 They brought it on themselves.
28:17 Trevor Noah? You, no, we gave, they gave it to us. Before, they wouldn't have heard these things we're saying. Now they'll be like, why are you talking shit about us? Why are you talking shit? Cause you gave it to us. So you could hear. Before, it would just, it would just be sounds. So what I'm.
28:29 Speaker 01 God, don't save the queen.
28:32 Trevor Noah? But wow, this guy's shots fired. No, me, I'll always say, I'll always say it. Um, well, now it's God save the king, I guess.
28:39 Speaker 01 Yes.
28:39 Trevor Noah? The, um, it's amazing how they just switched that up, eh? I always thought that was weird. Like, literally overnight, they're like, alright, alright, alright, God save the king now.
28:46 Speaker 01 We've changed our pronouns now.
28:47 Trevor Noah? We've changed, we've changed now. Um.
28:48 Speaker 01 We'll go by king now.
28:50 Trevor Noah? Let's be fair. Talent, tal- just talent wise, England has always had extremely talented players.
28:58 Speaker 01 I beg to differ, but okay.
29:00 Trevor Noah? Wow.
29:00 Speaker 01 I think they've always had a pretty good league that's made up of players from other countries.
29:06 Trevor Noah? Joe, Joe, let's, let's pause for a moment and let's.
29:10 Speaker 01 How many English players?
29:11 Trevor Noah? Okay, I think it's, I think it's fair to explain to people.
29:13 Speaker 01 How many English players?
29:14 Trevor Noah? If anyone is watching this or listening to this.
29:16 Speaker 01 Okay.
29:16 Trevor Noah? I think it is good for them to know that you are biased. I think it's good for them to know that you are a hater. I think it's good for them to know that you don't rate English football at all.
29:27 Speaker 01 I think it's hoof and hop.
29:28 Trevor Noah? There we go.
29:29 Speaker 01 I think.
29:30 Trevor Noah? And in case you don't know what that is, a hoof is something you find on an animal, not on a human being. And so hoof and hope is Joe basically saying that English football is a bunch of cows.
29:42 Speaker 01 Or as we call it these days, hoof and Inshallah.
29:49 Trevor Noah? Basically, no, no, Joe, let me set the stage. Don't defend yourself at all. I first need to explain this. You're a hater, which is good for the game. Haters are good in in certain aspects. You keep people honest. You're a hater of uh of English players. You don't rate them at all. And so for you, for you, you're not shocked when England ever quote unquote under. Don't say anything. I'll let you know when it's time for you to respond. You don't think it's ever England underperforming. You think that they're lucky to be there, like Make-A-Wish Kids or something, right? Now, I'm saying. England has always had some of the most talented players in the world.
30:31 Trevor Noah? We can go back decades. You know, we can go back to like the generations of Scholes and and then you can jump forward to like the Lampards and the Gerards and the Beckhams and you can like you can keep skipping. This current crop as well is one of the most talented group of English players we've seen.
30:48 Speaker 01 Very definitely.
30:49 Trevor Noah? I'll let you know when. Cone, silence.
30:52 Speaker 01 Very mentally.
30:53 Trevor Noah? Cone of silence.
30:54 Speaker 01 Alright.
30:55 Trevor Noah? Well, not cone of silence, vow of silence. Vow of silence. I don't want to be in a cone with you.
31:02 Trevor Noah? The current English squad, though, has created a bunch of waves because
31:11 Trevor Noah? the coach, is it, it's not the first time, but it's like, it's one of the few times that England hasn't had an English coach.
31:18 Speaker 01 The last one they had was Fabio Capello. Uh, the last time they had a non-English man as a coach.
31:25 Trevor Noah? Didn't they have like the the the, well, the guy from Scandinavia, I feel like, for a moment?
31:30 Speaker 02 Sven Jorhan Eriksen.
31:31 Trevor Noah? Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:32 Speaker 01 Sven came after.
31:33 Trevor Noah? He was after Capello. Okay, cool.
31:34 Speaker 01 Before Capello.
31:35 Trevor Noah? Before Capello. Alright, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, right. So they, but generally they have English coaches. Now they went with um Thomas Tuchel because because things were not going right for them.
31:45 Speaker 01 They went with the German. That's how badly things were going.
31:48 Trevor Noah? I mean, if you want to get things done, you go with the Germans.
31:50 Speaker 01 Yes, but English tabloids didn't receive that very well.
31:53 Trevor Noah? Yeah, my man, my man, my man, hey, you go with what works.
31:57 Speaker 01 No, because especially when it comes to.
31:58 Trevor Noah? Made in Germany.
31:59 Speaker 01 So they could, they could, they could allow a Swede, they could allow an Italian, but England and Germany have such a rivalry in soccer. It's almost like if Americans named.
34:15 Trevor Noah? Tell me.
34:16 Speaker 01 Great goal scorer.
34:17 Trevor Noah? Say me.
34:17 Speaker 01 But still not the best player in his own team.
34:20 Trevor Noah? Great goal scorer, is he from Peru?
34:21 Speaker 01 No, no, I'm saying.
34:21 Trevor Noah? I'm not familiar with that name.
34:23 Speaker 01 Hurricane.
34:24 Trevor Noah? Who's great goal scorer?
34:25 Speaker 01 Hurricane.
34:26 Trevor Noah? Maybe the way you're pronouncing it is throwing me off.
34:27 Speaker 01 Hurricane.
34:28 Trevor Noah? Great goal scorer, is he Greek?
34:29 Speaker 01 Still not the best player in his own team.
34:31 Trevor Noah? Great goal scorer.
34:32 Speaker 01 He scored a heartful of goals, but when it came to choosing the best player in the Bundesliga.
34:36 Trevor Noah? What you've just done here is something that I'm glad we do not see in football. You have just moved the goalposts. That's what you've done, Joe.
34:43 Speaker 01 All I'm saying.
34:44 Trevor Noah? That is what you have done, Joe.
34:45 Speaker 01 No, all I'm saying is.
34:45 Trevor Noah? Harry Kane.
34:46 Speaker 01 Yes.
34:47 Trevor Noah? I asked you the question. Respond to me.
34:49 Speaker 01 Yes.
34:50 Trevor Noah? Who is a better striker than Harry Kane right now?
34:52 Speaker 01 He's, right now, I still got to, I still got to think of a better striker, but he's still not the best player in the world. Not even top three, no, not even top three. He's not the best player at Bayern Munich.
35:03 Trevor Noah? Ah, my man.
35:04 Speaker 01 In his own club.
35:05 Trevor Noah? My man.
35:05 Speaker 01 And that's what I keep talking about, so Michael Lissé voted Bundesliga player over there.
35:08 Trevor Noah? Yo, my man, my man, my man.
35:09 Speaker 01 Lamine Yamal is a better player than Harry Kane.
35:11 Trevor Noah? Joe, wait, wait, Joe. I see that you're spiraling and I understand why. Okay, I understand it. As a hater, as a hater.
35:18 Speaker 01 Let's talk about, let's talk about the issue, okay?
35:20 Trevor Noah? I understand haters. I'm saying, this team, in every position.
35:26 Speaker 01 Okay.
35:26 Trevor Noah? Has somebody who can hurt you.
35:29 Trevor Noah? Do not sleep on Bukayo Saka.
35:31 Speaker 01 Still not anywhere near the best winger in the game.
35:34 Trevor Noah? Hey, my friend, my friend, do not sleep on that boy.
35:36 Speaker 01 Okay.
35:37 Trevor Noah? He will hurt you.
35:38 Speaker 01 Okay.
35:38 Trevor Noah? Okay? Do not sleep on that boy.
35:40 Speaker 01 Struggles to beat his man every time. He's not like Lamine Yamal.
35:44 Trevor Noah? Hey, my man.
35:45 Speaker 01 He's not Kvyat Kraskaria, he's not Dembele.
35:48 Trevor Noah? By the way, how do we say that guy's name?
35:49 Speaker 01 Kvyat Kraskaria.
35:52 Trevor Noah? Try again. That is right, Joe.
35:53 Speaker 01 Kvyat Kraskaria.
35:55 Trevor Noah? Try it again.
35:56 Speaker 01 Kvyat Kraskaria.
35:57 Trevor Noah? I think you've said it three, I think you've said it three different ways, three different times.
36:01 Speaker 01 Let him, let him try saying my name. He's from Georgia, in fairness, let him try saying my name.
36:05 Trevor Noah? No, what I'm saying is like, no, I'm saying every single commentator says his name differently.
36:09 Speaker 01 Says it very differently.
36:09 Trevor Noah? I've heard some commentators say, Kvaratskaria. And then I've heard some commentators say, Kvaratskaria. And then I've heard some commentators say like, Kvaratskaria.
36:18 Speaker 01 Yes.
36:18 Trevor Noah? So I don't know how anyone says his name, I've never heard, but he's not in the World Cup, so it doesn't matter. The point is, England, let's go back to England.
36:23 Speaker 01 Okay, let's go back to that.
36:24 Trevor Noah? England, so England has put forward their team. Um, one of the biggest things that's come out is people saying, especially the English press. Saying that this was a terrible selection because some of the most prominent English players were omitted.
36:38 Speaker 01 Creative.
36:38 Trevor Noah? So off the top of my head, players that they feel were omitted, um Phil Foden from Manchester City.
36:43 Speaker 01 Yes.
36:44 Trevor Noah? Um.
36:45 Speaker 01 Cole Palmer.
36:45 Trevor Noah? Cole Palmer from Chelsea.
36:47 Speaker 01 And Trent Alexander-Arnold.
36:48 Trevor Noah? Maguire from Manchester United, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw from Manchester United. Wait, wait, who else was left out?
36:55 Speaker 01 Trent Alexander-Arnold.
36:56 Trevor Noah? Trent Alexander-Arnold from Real Madrid.
36:58 Speaker 01 Can I just say, if as a nation, you're lamenting Maguire not making the team, you're already not in a good starting place. Let me just say that. If as a nation, you're bemoaning and making noise because Maguire isn't on the train.
37:14 Speaker 01 You're already starting from a losing position. And I'll say, I'll say this, look.
37:21 Speaker 01 This guy, yo man, I'll, I'll, I'll say this. The selection, very controversial. Actually, so many in the English press, especially the tabloids, think Tom Astuko is a German double agent sent to sabotaging them from.
37:36 Trevor Noah? Is that what they're saying?
37:37 Speaker 01 Yes, because they think, oh, you left out the best players we have. I think the selection made sense.
37:41 Trevor Noah? Okay, here's the thing I don't understand.
37:42 Speaker 01 I think it's.
37:43 Trevor Noah? So here's, let's go through this. Let's go through this ourselves, right? Because, I mean, if we're honest, we are probably the foremost experts in football in the world, right? We don't, we don't like to toot our own horn, but we are.
37:54 Speaker 01 Beautiful game, yeah.
37:54 Trevor Noah? We are. So let's talk about the players who are left out. And agree or disagree about why they should have been left out. So Phil Foden. I love Phil Foden. I think he's one of the most talented players in the world, but we cannot deny that Phil Foden has had a wishy-washy season. Far from his best.
38:14 Speaker 01 Yes.
38:14 Trevor Noah? Right? And, and I'm gonna go on the record and say I blame the Manchester City system. My opinion is, because Manchester City has so many players and so many options, when you experience a dip, you're just on the bench immediately.
38:28 Speaker 01 Puts you out, yes.
38:29 Trevor Noah? Right? Pep Guardiola can just put you on, because he can afford to put you on a bench. Other teams can't afford that, right? So if you're playing for, you know, Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, any of them, if you're having a bad game, you're having a bad game. And then if you have another bad game, you have another bad game, because they don't, they don't have a whole first team sitting on the bench like Manchester City does. So Pep benches you as Foden, I think it does two things to you. One, mentally, it messes with you because you go, my mistakes are punishable in, in a really big way. Number two, it also means you don't get to rectify the mistake.
39:05 Speaker 01 Yes.
39:06 Trevor Noah? So in the next game you're up there, and then if they win, you don't play again. If they win, you don't play again.
39:09 Speaker 01 It's like if you swipe right on a girl.
39:11 Trevor Noah? You're really swiping right. What's happened to your dating? What's going on? Why is everything about dating?
39:14 Speaker 01 I've discovered this thing called apps, and then you go on a first date.
39:17 Trevor Noah? You know, it's like, yo, this guy's like a, it's like we found some guy, like, it's like some guy just came to America and the first thing they introduced him to was dating apps.
39:25 Speaker 01 Oh, I'm loving dating.
39:25 Trevor Noah? Everything is swiping right.
39:27 Speaker 01 In Africa, I had to walk five miles to find a girl, and now I just swipe.
39:30 Trevor Noah? You have to swipe five miles and then you swipe right.
39:32 Speaker 01 I swipe, yes, physically. Oh, I'm loving dating.
39:34 Trevor Noah? So, so, so what I'm saying is this.
39:35 Speaker 01 I think, I think even beyond Pep Guardiola, for me, even if Phil Foden had not had a wishy-washy season.
39:40 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
39:41 Speaker 01 He still, he has never delivered in an English shirt. He has never.
39:44 Trevor Noah? But that's not the point. I think, I think the point is, should he, I, I think we, we're both agreeing that it, when you look at other players, it doesn't make, it does make sense that Phil Foden got left behind, unfortunately. Um, Cole Palmer, yo, man.
39:58 Speaker 01 Same exact year.
39:59 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but he's one of the most, I mean, he's, he's just, he's a game changer.
40:04 Speaker 01 Yes.
40:05 Trevor Noah? You know?
40:06 Speaker 01 He can turn it on any time.
40:07 Trevor Noah? Cole Palmer is one of those players who can create everything out of nothing. Every time he touches a ball, you don't know what will happen. He's unpredictable, but ever since the injury, he hasn't been the same and he's been struggling.
40:21 Speaker 01 Yes.
40:21 Trevor Noah? I think it's just a case of like injury at the wrong time.
40:25 Speaker 01 Yes, yes.
40:25 Trevor Noah? That, that's all it is. So it makes sense that he's out. Okay, let's talk about Harry Maguire. Who did they pick instead of Harry Maguire?
40:33 Speaker 01 I think they're going to go with, uh, Mark Gehe, they're going to go with Dan Burn from Newcastle. When you look at their, at the, what they have in defense, I think Maguire was harshly done by.
40:46 Trevor Noah? He was harshly done.
40:47 Speaker 01 I think he should have made, he has, if, if, if you're using form as the metric.
40:52 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
40:52 Speaker 01 Maguire should have been on the team.
40:53 Trevor Noah? Yeah, because, okay, look, I can see why Mark Gehe and, um.
40:57 Speaker 01 Dan Burn.
40:57 Trevor Noah? And Dan Burn will get in ahead of him, but I don't get why he's not in the squad.
41:04 Speaker 01 That's, that's, that's the argument.
41:05 Trevor Noah? Because, because who else is there in the squad? Surely you can take more than two centre backs with you?
41:08 Speaker 01 Yeah, no, no, they have, they're, they're, they're way more centre backs, I, but the thing is.
41:11 Trevor Noah? Who, who else? You're Ryan. Who else is in the, is, is in the squad?
41:14 Speaker 01 Jarrel Quanza?
41:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, Jarrel Quanza, instead of Jed Spence.
41:17 Speaker 01 Liverpool player who went on loan, who went on loan to Bayern.
41:19 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but Jed Spence is a, is a, is a fullback.
41:21 Speaker 01 Yeah, he's a fullback. But I'm saying Jarrel Quanza, the fact that Jarrel Quanza made it on the team and away at the end, that's why I think.
41:28 Trevor Noah? Now, but now, okay, now, I'll be fair to Gerald.
41:29 Speaker 02 But Jarrel Quanza's name was used also to keep Trent out of the equation by Thomas Tuchel. He said, we don't need Trent because we have people like Jarrel Quanza who can play both.
41:37 Speaker 01 No, yeah, yeah, who are versatile, who can play both. But, but also now, this takes me to the point I need to make about this England team. The players who bet on themselves, the players who stepped out of the comfort zone that's England in a way.
41:49 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
41:50 Speaker 01 Ended up benefiting. So I'll start with Marcus Rashford. He went to Barcelona, ended up getting on the plane.
41:56 Trevor Noah? I knew you were gonna bring him up because of Barcelona.
41:57 Speaker 01 I'll start, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll give you another one. Jarrel Quanza left England, went to Bayern Leverkusen. Ended up playing, ended up getting on the plane. Uh, who is the other player? N'Golo Kante left Chelsea, went to Arsenal. Ended up going on the plane while Copa Madrid. Another player, Ivan Tony.
42:18 Speaker 01 Left the continent, went to Saudi Arabia, gambled big on himself.
42:22 Trevor Noah? Did you include N'Golo Kante? He went from London to London.
42:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, but he went from a team where, you know, this is his boyhood.
42:29 Trevor Noah? Okay, wait, wait, okay, so let's amend your statement then.
42:31 Speaker 01 Yes.
42:32 Trevor Noah? So you're saying, all the players, okay, the players who moved and bet on themselves to try something different.
42:37 Speaker 01 To get more minutes to.
42:39 Trevor Noah? Yeah, yeah, they, they have all succeeded.
42:41 Speaker 01 Yeah, they got all benefited. Ivan Tony, people thought his career was over.
42:45 Trevor Noah? Wait, Ivan Tony's in the squad?
42:46 Speaker 01 He's on the squad, yes.
42:47 Trevor Noah? Oh, I didn't know that, actually.
42:47 Speaker 01 People thought his career was over, he made a big bet, moved.
42:50 Trevor Noah? He's made, definitely made big bets.
42:51 Speaker 01 And some person can't even bet on his games. In Saudi Arabia, yes.
42:55 Trevor Noah? By the way, I wanna go on the record and say, as you know, I'm not a fan of sports betting. However, I think players should be allowed to bet on themselves.
43:04 Trevor Noah? I see no reason that a player shouldn't be allowed to bet on themselves winning. I see no reason.
43:09 Speaker 01 I see a conflict though.
43:10 Trevor Noah? No, bro, what's the conflict?
43:13 Trevor Noah? What's the conflict? I'm going into a match.
43:16 Speaker 01 Okay.
43:16 Trevor Noah? I go to the bookies and I say, I bet you I'm gonna win this match. What's the conflict? You shouldn't be allowed to bet against yourself.
43:23 Speaker 01 Against yourself, yes.
43:25 Trevor Noah? And you shouldn't be allowed to bet on other teams.
43:26 Speaker 01 No, but I think it's a slippery.
43:27 Trevor Noah? Cause you may have information.
43:28 Speaker 01 I think it's a slippery slope argument.
43:29 Trevor Noah? People always talk about slippery slopes like we're in Diddy's parties here. Hey, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. Guys.
43:36 Speaker 01 You make it seem like Diddy actually had a literal slope. With like baby oil.
43:40 Trevor Noah? He probably did, my friend. My, I'm saying this, I'm saying this.
43:42 Speaker 01 No, it's the thing is, the thing is, if you keep, if you allow players to bet on games, whether for or against themselves, then it's just going to spiral, cause betting by its very nature, no, betting by its very nature, means you get addicted to winning. So how are we going to control? You might start out betting on yourself. And maybe you don't score the goals you wanted to score, and then you end up betting.
44:05 Trevor Noah? No, guys, we make a simple system where players can bet publicly on themselves.
44:13 Speaker 01 And then privately?
44:15 Trevor Noah? You're not allowed to bet privately. The same way it is now.
44:19 Speaker 01 But then why not just?
44:21 Trevor Noah? Because in my world, I think a player who goes, my salary is not that high, maybe I'm not one of the top earning players in the world. No, no, no, no, no. They go like, I, I wanna bet on myself. I'm, I bet that I'm gonna do it this game. Why aren't they allowed to do that?
44:37 Speaker 01 Because what if they don't score? If he says, I'm gonna score a hat trick and doesn't score a hat trick.
44:42 Trevor Noah? That's, then he's lost his money.
44:42 Speaker 01 No, but come on, then the repercussions, mental health, and then.
44:46 Trevor Noah? Yo, you bet.
44:47 Speaker 01 He's going to recoup, he's going to try to recoup that money somehow.
44:50 Trevor Noah? Yo, why? Why can they not bet on themselves?
44:53 Speaker 01 I like how you make it seem like.
44:54 Trevor Noah? Why can the team take sports bets and they can't?
44:55 Speaker 01 I like how Trevor makes it seem like sports bettors actually have control. Most of them have no control. That's why they're betting in the first place. So they will start out good faith betting on themselves, and then if they lose enough times.
45:08 Trevor Noah? Okay, okay, so what you're saying is, you're saying we're doing this to protect them?
45:11 Speaker 01 Yes.
45:11 Trevor Noah? I can accept that argument, cause I'm against sport betting, so I can accept this argument.
45:14 Speaker 01 You didn't sound like you against sports betting.
45:16 Trevor Noah? No, no, no, no.
45:16 Speaker 01 You sounded like a mouthpiece for Fun Duo and DraftKings at the same time.
45:22 Trevor Noah? No, what I'm saying is this, I don't understand how you can have a system that then excludes one part. Because I'm accept, the reason you've beaten me in this, and the reason I'm accepting defeat in this argument, is because you used the elements of sports betting that I am against.
45:39 Speaker 01 Yes.
45:39 Trevor Noah? It's addictive, it's a spiral, it takes you down a rabbit hole. That's, that's why you've won. Do you get what I'm saying? But I'm saying if we are going to allow sports betting to exist, why don't we let the players bet on them? That's all I was saying.
45:52 Speaker 01 If human beings, if human beings were robots without emotions.
45:56 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but I'm saying if, so I'm saying if it's not good for the players, why is it good for the people?
45:59 Speaker 01 Because then that's one way for the people to be invested. They can't play. They can't get the rush from playing.
46:04 Trevor Noah? So they must get it by being broke and losing their houses.
46:07 Speaker 01 By trying to win something.
46:09 Trevor Noah? See you. It sounds like you are lobbyists for DraftKings and FanDuel and all of them.
46:13 Speaker 01 Before we even move on, you know the funny thing about England? The funny thing, the thing I love about England as it is now, as you said, I'm a hater. Thing I love about England is the English media, who are notorious by their for always picking a scapegoat, who's always black every time they don't perform, are caught in a very interesting sport. Because they don't want, they want Tuko to succeed because he's coaching the English team.
46:38 Trevor Noah? But.
46:39 Speaker 01 But then if he succeeds, he'll get a knighthood. And there's nothing worse for an Englishman than to feel like they owe something to a German. So I, I just want to see how that will play out. Because if Tuko doesn't succeed, then they're going to frogmate him out of.
46:54 Trevor Noah? Of course.
46:54 Speaker 01 Yes. They're going to Brexit him. They would love that. But then they would also love him to win. But then that comes with such a huge payoff and such a huge debt.
47:06 Trevor Noah? What do you, what do you think their chances are? How far do you think, how far do you see them getting in this tournament?
47:10 Speaker 01 I think England are going to struggle in the opening games. They always do struggle.
47:13 Trevor Noah? Wait, wait, okay. So who are the games? We have.
47:15 Speaker 01 They always know, I, I always know, I don't, whether they're playing Uganda, whether they're playing the U.S., whether they're playing, they're always struggling in the opening games, but then they'll make it deep. They'll make a deep run. And I think then they.
47:26 Trevor Noah? Ryan, who's the, who are the, um, who's England playing against in their, in their opening games? What's the group stages?
47:31 Speaker 02 I'll have a look for you.
47:33 Trevor Noah? Because I depending on who it is, because one thing England does really well is they thrash small teams.
47:39 Speaker 01 No, they don't actually.
47:40 Trevor Noah? What are you talking about? Oh, in the World Cup, they struggle.
47:42 Speaker 01 They always struggle.
47:43 Trevor Noah? England Croatia?
47:44 Speaker 01 They always struggle, yeah, that's.
47:45 Trevor Noah? Oh, that's tough.
47:46 Speaker 02 England Ghana?
47:46 Trevor Noah? Didn't wait, wait, wait, wait. England Croatia, didn't Croatia beat England in Qatar?
47:51 Speaker 01 No, in Qatar, they were beaten by France. Hurricane missed the penalty last minute.
47:55 Trevor Noah? No, no, what do you mean?
47:56 Speaker 01 In Qatar, yeah, Hurricane missed the penalty last minute and France dumped them out.
48:02 Trevor Noah? What?
48:02 Speaker 01 Croatia was beaten by Argentina, three nil.
48:05 Trevor Noah? Oh.
48:06 Speaker 01 Yes. The thing is, England.
48:07 Speaker 02 Croatia did beat a big team, though, I can't remember right now.
48:10 Speaker 01 England always struggles.
48:11 Trevor Noah? Wait, wait, wait, what game? We were at a game where England was up one nil, was a knockout game. Who were they playing?
48:17 Speaker 01 They were playing France.
48:19 Speaker 01 Olivier Giroud equalized.
48:20 Trevor Noah? And then they tried to.
48:21 Speaker 01 Yes, and then.
48:21 Trevor Noah? Was that, was that a France game?
48:22 Speaker 01 Yeah, France, France took a two, a two one lead. Hurricane missed the penalty.
48:26 Trevor Noah? Oh, damn.
48:26 Speaker 01 That famous English mentality, folding and folding when the pressure is on.
48:32 Trevor Noah? Okay, so who else? Uh, England who?
48:34 Speaker 01 I feel like England.
48:34 Speaker 02 And then Ghana?
48:35 Speaker 01 Yes.
48:35 Speaker 02 The second match?
48:36 Trevor Noah? Okay, so England Ghana, that's the second match. That can also be a, anything can happen game with Ghana.
48:44 Speaker 01 Two games in, that would be a dream scenario for me, but no, but England always, England always struggle, but they always make it through.
48:49 Trevor Noah? Okay, wait, wait, but wait, but wait.
48:51 Speaker 02 Those are two games they could easily lose.
48:52 Speaker 01 Yes.
48:53 Trevor Noah? They could, they could lose or draw.
48:54 Speaker 02 The final games against Panama.
48:56 Trevor Noah? That they should win.
48:57 Speaker 01 They will struggle. England always struggle when they are the favorites. Because they don't know.
49:02 Trevor Noah? But they're always the favorites.
49:03 Speaker 01 They don't know.
49:04 Speaker 02 But they're not favorites this year.
49:05 Speaker 01 They don't know how to, no, no, when they're playing against a team, which is another dog, because they don't know how to break down low blocks. When a team sits back and defends.
49:13 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
49:13 Speaker 01 England always struggles because they don't have the tools to break down a low block team.
49:17 Trevor Noah? Damn.
49:18 Speaker 01 So I think, I think they'll make it to the knockout rounds, but there's always going to be, with England, there's always drama because if they lose, their opening game to Croatia, then the tabloids are going to fire up, you know what they always do?
49:28 Trevor Noah? Yeah, yeah, it's on, no, it's on.
49:28 Speaker 01 It's going to be crisis, all hands on deck.
49:30 Trevor Noah? The Eng- the English media takes for granted how detrimental they are to the English game.
49:36 Speaker 01 Incredibly detrimental.
49:37 Trevor Noah? Like, I don't understand how they think the team will win.
49:42 Trevor Noah? When they are constantly bombarded with some of the most negative rhetoric ever.
49:46 Speaker 01 They do what tabloids do, they build you up. So pre-tournament, they go like, we're going to win, it's coming home.
49:51 Trevor Noah? Yeah, and then they try like.
49:52 Speaker 01 We have the best team, the most talented team.
49:54 Trevor Noah? Then they try to bring you down.
49:55 Speaker 01 There's a setback, they jump onto the team. And I think that's going to happen, it happens every World Cup. But I think this time, England are going to make it. They always make it deep into the knockouts. But then they always, always struggle. They always, always struggle when the pressure is on.
50:13 Trevor Noah? Okay.
50:14 Speaker 01 It's been the English curse like since nineteen sixty-six.
50:16 Trevor Noah? I mean, you know, there's, there's players that I love in the team, so I, I hope they at least do well. But I mean, I want Ghana to go through in that group.
50:26 Speaker 01 I like it when they win enough games and have just enough hope. And then it all comes crashing down, and then you watch the media melt down.
50:34 Trevor Noah? Shame, man.
50:35 Speaker 01 I love it.
50:36 Trevor Noah? It's a big one.
50:37 Speaker 01 I almost love it more than the World Cup.
50:39 Trevor Noah? You know what you probably love is how the Spanish team snubbed all the Real Madrid players.
50:44 Speaker 01 They had a terrible season. They, none of them deserved to make it. Which Madrid player made, also, also I like how they make it.
50:49 Trevor Noah? I love, I love how, let's just pause for a second there, Joe. And look at how, look at how your face changed. You got, you, you, you tried to fake it and you were like, you're like. You're like, oh, they had a terrible season and they, you don't think a single Real Madrid player.
51:05 Speaker 01 None of them.
51:06 Trevor Noah? Deserve to be called up to the Spanish team.
51:08 Speaker 01 The thing people forget is that Real Madrid doesn't have those many Spanish players.
51:11 Trevor Noah? Okay, actually, no, that's a good argument. Yeah, because you've got Mbappe, you've got Vinicius. Who plays on the right these days?
51:17 Speaker 01 The team is filled, it was Rodrigo.
51:19 Trevor Noah? Cause Rodrigo got injured.
51:20 Speaker 01 Then they tried, I think, Adagura there. They don't.
51:23 Trevor Noah? And Carrera, Carrera's, Carrera's play.
51:25 Speaker 01 Carrera's had a terrible season.
51:26 Trevor Noah? And who's, who's the Argentinian boy, Masca?
51:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, Mas Tantuano.
51:29 Trevor Noah? Yeah, Mas Tantuano. Yes, he, okay, he's Argentinian.
51:32 Speaker 01 They never have, the Real Madrid team, when you look at it, it's always like, it feels lucky when they have two Spanish players in there.
51:38 Trevor Noah? Yeah, you're not wrong.
51:39 Speaker 01 Dean Hauser.
51:40 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
51:40 Speaker 01 Who then had a deep in form, which means now he was replaced by Milito and Rudiger. So they don't even have any Spanish, Danny Cabal is too old.
51:50 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
51:50 Speaker 01 And he was replaced by Trent Alexander-Arnold in the team. So I don't know why Madrid fans are saying.
51:55 Trevor Noah? Yeah, those don't sound.
51:56 Speaker 01 I don't, I don't know why they're surprised. And, and they had a terrible season.
51:59 Trevor Noah? Those don't seem like snubs for me, actually. They don't, they don't seem like snubs at all.
52:03 Speaker 01 I think the thing Madrid fans don't like is the fact that.
52:07 Speaker 01 Way too many Barcelona players ended up making it. But then Barcelona had the best season and Barcelona plays way more Spanish players. No, it makes sense. It makes complete sense. But it's the first time in decades that Madrid hasn't had a representative to the Spanish team. And that I think is a damning indictment.
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55:21 Speaker 01 But I think that's the funny thing about this World Cup is almost every collab, every selection, has had so much drama. You know, you have England, you have Spain, you have Germany. You know what's happening in Germany?
55:38 Trevor Noah? Well, I mean, German drama-
55:40 Speaker 01 The goalkeeping situation, yes.
55:41 Trevor Noah? With Neuer?
55:42 Speaker 01 Yes.
55:43 Trevor Noah? I don't get why that's a drama. I'll be honest.
55:45 Speaker 01 He retired, sat out the qualifiers. Another goalkeeper had to actually go through the qualifiers.
55:50 Trevor Noah? So what?
55:51 Speaker 01 Did a good game, did a good job, and now Neuer comes back and he's going to play in the World Cup. And then the keeper who helped them qualify-
55:58 Trevor Noah? But Neuer was fantastic with Bayern Munich.
55:59 Speaker 01 Yes, but I'm saying-
56:00 Trevor Noah? The keeper, let me ask you that. The keeper who helped them qualify, is he in the squad?
56:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
56:04 Trevor Noah? Then that's fine.
56:05 Speaker 01 But he was supposed to be guaranteed a starting role.
56:07 Trevor Noah? Joe? Joe? It's fine.
56:11 Speaker 01 Trevor.
56:11 Trevor Noah? Joe.
56:12 Speaker 01 Think of it this way.
56:13 Trevor Noah? Joe, Joe, Joe. If you bring another Tinder analogy here, my man.
56:16 Speaker 01 If I swipe right.
56:17 Trevor Noah? I'm gonna swipe left on you eh.
56:18 Speaker 01 If I swipe right on this girl, and then I take her on a date, and I treat her very, very well. And she says I have an amazing team, and then she goes like, your place or mine, and I go like, oh, my place, and then you go back to my place. And then my friend, who was discouraging me from actually swiping right on this girl, goes like, now it's my time to shine. As you sit in the cock chair, it just feels unfair.
56:40 Trevor Noah? So let's, let's.
56:41 Speaker 01 The goalkeeper.
56:42 Trevor Noah? Let's improve on this analogy. Let's make it better. Your friend said that he's out of the dating pool.
56:48 Speaker 01 Yes.
56:49 Trevor Noah? Okay. You went on a date. Your friend said, I'm out of the date, I'm not dating anymore. But outside the restaurant window, your friend was breakdancing.
57:00 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:00 Trevor Noah? Your friend was doing things.
57:02 Speaker 01 My friend is a ten, yes.
57:02 Trevor Noah? Your friend was cooking.
57:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:04 Trevor Noah? Your friend was singing.
57:05 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:05 Trevor Noah? Your friend was juggling. Man, your friend was putting on a show.
57:08 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:08 Trevor Noah? And outside the window, your date sees your friend.
57:11 Speaker 01 Yes. I was also putting on a semi show.
57:14 Trevor Noah? Fine.
57:15 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:15 Trevor Noah? But as we know, semis are not exactly the best.
57:18 Speaker 01 They don't count, okay?
57:20 Trevor Noah? And then your date saw your friend and went, you know what? I would like to date that guy.
57:28 Trevor Noah? Would that guy like to date me? And then your friend goes, you know what? I'm back in the mix. That's exact, that's more what happened.
57:35 Speaker 01 Yes, but I'm saying it feels unfair.
57:37 Trevor Noah? So, so, so, I mean, all is fair.
57:39 Speaker 01 I guess the moral of the story is, if I ever take a girl on a date, I don't want Trevor breakdancing outside the window.
57:45 Trevor Noah? Hey, my friend, choose your restaurants wisely. I, I just don't think there's, there's drama. You know what? I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what's more dramatic.
57:51 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:52 Trevor Noah? I'll tell you what's more exciting.
57:55 Trevor Noah? This is the final World Cup, where we get to see, it's, it's the changing of a god in one of the biggest ways possible.
58:02 Speaker 01 I think before you move, I think before you move on to that, the fact that Germany is having mini drama, for me, tells me a lot about this World Cup. And I think I told you this, I think this World Cup has so much drama, it should be airing on Bravo. Because Germans normally are very, like, matter of fact, teams are chosen.
58:18 Trevor Noah? You think it's this, it's, it's that dramatic?
58:19 Speaker 01 This is huge. It's like causing waves in Germany, because they, they think it's very unfair to the keeper who led them. They, they said, Noia, Noia is amazing, everyone wants him on the team.
58:27 Trevor Noah? I mean, now you, now you just, you just sold me another brilliant idea. We should go to Bravo and sell them. The the Real Housewives of the World Cup.
58:36 Speaker 01 Of the World Cup, yes.
58:37 Trevor Noah? And it's just the players. And then like, cause now they've been in a confessional and then the other goalkeeper will be like, so you know, I don't even understand what happened here. Because you know, the whole time I was playing for the national team and I was the main player. Ten games and I took the team to the World Cup, we qualified with these hands in these gloves. And then all of a sudden, that bitch Neuer comes out of nowhere and takes the spot. I mean, what are we doing here, guys? Ah, and then they cut to Neuer, then Neuer's like, hehehe.
59:06 Speaker 01 I like, I like, I like the fact that your dramatic German is still not dramatic at all.
59:10 Trevor Noah? I mean, that's, that was very dramatic.
59:12 Speaker 01 Like he's being, he's being sassy, but he's not like a dramatic, dramatic Real Housewife.
59:15 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but this is like, this is like for a German, this is.
59:18 Speaker 01 It's like big sass.
59:19 Trevor Noah? What, Germans who watch what I just did now are gonna be like, damn, that was, that was intense.
59:25 Speaker 01 That's, oh, they'll, they'll be like, that German needs to.
59:27 Trevor Noah? Yeah, yeah.
59:27 Speaker 01 Control their emotions.
59:28 Trevor Noah? You know what I mean? Like the scale for Germans. Um, no, the thing I'm most excited for, it's the changing of an era, my friend. Last World Cup where we get to see Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar.
59:39 Speaker 01 Yeah, the last.
59:40 Trevor Noah? These were.
59:40 Speaker 01 And Neuer.
59:43 Trevor Noah? As I said, last World Cup where we get to see Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar. This guy just threw in.
59:49 Speaker 01 In a goalkeeper, yes.
59:50 Trevor Noah? Goalkeeper, who, yes, he is one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time.
59:54 Speaker 01 Top three, yes, but, but he's not, yes.
59:56 Trevor Noah? Come on, come on, hmm?
59:58 Speaker 01 He shouldn't be in the same, yeah, in the same, yeah.
1:00:00 Trevor Noah? We're talking about players.
1:00:02 Speaker 01 Who, who made you sit on the edge of your seat, yes.
1:00:04 Trevor Noah? Who made you want to play like them. Neymar, arguably the greatest talent. That again, didn't achieve the heights that he was supposed to, arguably because he didn't like want to. Neymar never seemed to enjoy the pressure nor the lifestyle.
1:00:23 Speaker 01 He was Brazilian.
1:00:24 Trevor Noah? But, no, but other Brazilians, they reached their peak. Ronaldinho did it.
1:00:28 Speaker 01 No, he didn't.
1:00:29 Trevor Noah? What do you mean?
1:00:30 Speaker 01 Ronaldinho could have had.
1:00:31 Trevor Noah? Does Ronaldinho have a Ballon d'Or?
1:00:33 Speaker 01 Yeah, but he could have, he should have five.
1:00:35 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but he could, but he should have had two, if we're honest.
1:00:37 Speaker 01 Yes, at least two, yes.
1:00:38 Trevor Noah? He should have had two. I think he was a little bit robbed of one. He should have had two.
1:00:41 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:00:42 Trevor Noah? He did his Champions League, he did his leagues, he did his World Cups, he did amazing things. No, no, no, you want.
1:00:48 Speaker 01 Brazilians always shine brightly, but for such a short period of time.
1:00:51 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but you want Brazilians to not be Brazilian, that's your problem.
1:00:54 Speaker 01 No, that's, that's why I said Neymar is Brazilian.
1:00:55 Trevor Noah? No, Brazilians, Neymar underperformed for Brazilian even. How many World Cups does Neymar have?
1:01:02 Speaker 01 None.
1:01:03 Trevor Noah? Okay. How many Champions Leagues?
1:01:04 Speaker 01 But he was also cast with the worst team in Brazilian history.
1:01:09 Trevor Noah? Answer my questions. How many World Cups does Neymar have?
1:01:12 Speaker 01 He has none.
1:01:13 Trevor Noah? How many Champions Leagues does he have?
1:01:14 Speaker 01 He has one.
1:01:15 Trevor Noah? How many leagues does he have?
1:01:16 Speaker 01 He has like three, four.
1:01:18 Trevor Noah? In a career of how long?
1:01:21 Speaker 01 A career that's been cut short because of injuries.
1:01:23 Trevor Noah? How many Ballon d'Ors does he have?
1:01:25 Speaker 01 None.
1:01:25 Trevor Noah? Okay.
1:01:26 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:01:27 Trevor Noah? When you look.
1:01:28 Speaker 01 It's a travesty.
1:01:29 Trevor Noah? When you look at what Neymar is capable of.
1:01:31 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:01:32 Trevor Noah? There is no person in this world who can dispute.
1:01:35 Speaker 01 I.
1:01:35 Trevor Noah? Even Messi has said, let's use your lord and savior Messi.
1:01:40 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:01:41 Trevor Noah? Even Messi has said.
1:01:42 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:01:43 Trevor Noah? When they've asked Messi, who are some of your favorite players? He says, when I watch Neymar play the game, I'm mesmerized.
1:01:52 Speaker 01 Beautiful, yoga bonito, as you say.
1:01:53 Trevor Noah? Messi says that.
1:01:54 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:01:56 Trevor Noah? Neymar, so I'm excited that we get to see, it's like one last chance for Neymar to come out and just like, just, even if it's like for two games, just remind everybody why he was supposed to be that thing. In fact, I would even hope that Neymar wins a World Cup, just because, man, it would be amazing.
1:02:16 Speaker 01 Yeah, it would be good for him to win.
1:02:18 Trevor Noah? It would be great for Brazil.
1:02:20 Speaker 01 But as I'm saying again, his cast, his generation, because Ronaldinho, for all his talents, he still played alongside Ronaldo.
1:02:28 Trevor Noah? Ish.
1:02:28 Speaker 01 Rivaldo.
1:02:29 Trevor Noah? Ish.
1:02:29 Speaker 01 He played against, Neymar has been carrying this team on his back.
1:02:34 Trevor Noah? That's true.
1:02:34 Speaker 01 And when you look at players like Rafinha and players like Vinicius, they are great at their clubs.
1:02:38 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but they're not.
1:02:39 Speaker 01 Still don't perform when they put on the golden shirt, so I don't hold the ball on against him because he was competing in the same era as Ronaldo and Messi. It was a bit tough for him to break through, ah, but I also think, I think he's, I think he didn't have the discipline.
1:02:56 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but, and he talks about it, you've seen him, he likes playing video games.
1:02:59 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:03:00 Trevor Noah? He likes living a different kind of life, and I think his dad puts too much pressure on him, but that's just from what I've seen. I mean, that's, you know, um.
1:03:06 Speaker 01 His dad is a tennis sports dad. He's like, I call Jackson's dad. He's like, any sports, he's like, you know, Serena Williams dad. He's like, any, any sports dad who is invested in that kid's becoming the next big thing will always put them under.
1:03:18 Trevor Noah? Immense amounts of pressure. Yeah, that's true. Messi is just Messi. He, he can do anything. What do you think of the, what do you think of the Argentina squad for this one?
1:03:26 Speaker 01 I think it's better than the squad in twenty twenty two.
1:03:28 Trevor Noah? I agree.
1:03:28 Speaker 01 I think it's more balanced. I think the fact that Messi is four years older might count against them, but he's Messi.
1:03:36 Trevor Noah? Ah, bro, he's Messi, man.
1:03:37 Speaker 01 Is a moment of brilliance.
1:03:38 Trevor Noah? He's Messi.
1:03:39 Speaker 01 I think Ronaldo, the Portugal team, fun enough, the most stable team.
1:03:43 Trevor Noah? It's a good team.
1:03:44 Speaker 01 No drama.
1:03:45 Trevor Noah? It's a good team.
1:03:46 Speaker 01 No selection drama.
1:03:47 Trevor Noah? Yo.
1:03:48 Speaker 01 I think Ronaldo, I think Ronaldo might help, might hold them.
1:03:51 Trevor Noah? It is a good team.
1:03:53 Speaker 01 I think accommodating Ronaldo in that team might hold them back.
1:03:56 Trevor Noah? It will, it will.
1:03:57 Speaker 01 He's Ronaldo. Again, you can't like count him out.
1:04:00 Trevor Noah? You shouldn't count him out, but I, but I think.
1:04:03 Speaker 01 He'll do more harm than good.
1:04:04 Trevor Noah? So here's my opinion. Might be controversial if you're a Ronaldo fan, but I think the greatest thing Ronaldo can do is use.
1:04:13 Speaker 01 We're going to get, we're going to get banter at this day.
1:04:15 Trevor Noah? That's fine.
1:04:16 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:04:16 Trevor Noah? The greatest thing Ronaldo can do at this World Cup.
1:04:19 Speaker 01 Is be a cheerleader.
1:04:20 Trevor Noah? Yes, is, is allow his team to do things without him. If you look at what, what Portugal did at the Euros without him, I'm not saying that he's not good and I'm not saying he shouldn't be in the team. But I'm saying like, if Ronaldo is able to lessen his gravitational pull, both in terms of being on the pitch.
1:04:39 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:04:39 Trevor Noah? And in terms of like wanting the ball and, and all, man, that Portugal team, guys, we're talking about, like, you've got Vitinha.
1:04:47 Speaker 01 Yau Neves.
1:04:48 Trevor Noah? João Neves.
1:04:48 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:04:49 Trevor Noah? You've got Nuno Mendes, you've got Bruno Fernandes.
1:04:51 Speaker 01 The whole team, yes.
1:04:53 Trevor Noah? Just cannot kick a ball wrong. Bernardo Silva, you've got like decent defenders at the back as well.
1:04:58 Speaker 01 Yes, it's frankly between them, France.
1:05:01 Trevor Noah? The weakest player is probably, the weakest player is probably the goalkeeper.
1:05:04 Speaker 01 Who saves penalties for fun?
1:05:06 Trevor Noah? True, but beyond penalties though, he's not the greatest goalkeeper.
1:05:09 Speaker 01 The weakest player is by far Ronaldo. And again, we're going.
1:05:11 Trevor Noah? Did they bring, did they bring Rafael Leao as well?
1:05:13 Speaker 01 Rafael Leao is in there.
1:05:14 Trevor Noah? Yeah, man.
1:05:15 Speaker 01 Big difference maker. I think for me, the thing is about Ronaldo, and that's what makes this team a great tragedy is. The thing you're saying is the exact thing Ronaldo can't do naturally.
1:05:26 Trevor Noah? That's why I'm saying Ronaldo.
1:05:27 Speaker 01 He can't step away.
1:05:28 Trevor Noah? Cristiano Ronaldo.
1:05:29 Speaker 01 For the benefit of.
1:05:30 Trevor Noah? If you are out there. This could be the moment where you shock the world.
1:05:34 Speaker 01 No, he can't. It goes against everything in his DNA.
1:05:38 Trevor Noah? Yes, but this is the moment. We love movies.
1:05:41 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:05:42 Trevor Noah? What do we love about great movies? The unexpected happens. If Cristiano Ronaldo. If Cristiano Ronaldo. Comes out with that team. And at a moment where we don't expect it takes a backseat. Portugal can win the World Cup.
1:05:57 Speaker 01 But what also makes great movies is the fact that normally the character or the protagonist or even the antagonist. They have a character flaw. That they can't quite overcome.
1:06:08 Speaker 01 And Ronaldo has that as a character flaw. He has to be the main character. He can't step away.
1:06:13 Trevor Noah? Man, but if he does it at the right moment.
1:06:15 Speaker 01 He won't step away. I watched, I watched his team play in the Saudi League. He can't step away. He can't help himself.
1:06:21 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but that's the Saudi League. You can't tell Ronaldo to step away at the Saudi League.
1:06:24 Speaker 01 He was costing them more than he was helping them.
1:06:26 Trevor Noah? Yeah, I hear you. That's what, that's what I worry about.
1:06:28 Speaker 01 So for me, that's the funny thing. They have to accommodate him. And as, and as I've said, Ronaldo can put the chances away, but then when he's not putting the chances away, he can't press. He can't hold up play. So you're basically playing with ten.
1:06:42 Trevor Noah? It's gonna be interesting. I mean, not as interesting as, as Iran playing in the World Cup.
1:06:49 Trevor Noah? A lot of people have been shocked by this because I guess they don't understand how.
1:06:54 Trevor Noah? Special is the wrong word. Come on, you're, you're, you're a dictionary. What's, what's a better word to describe Iran? Rather like how the World Cup. Creates.
1:07:05 Speaker 01 This bubble of.
1:07:06 Trevor Noah? It's a world, oh, I didn't know you were gonna use bubble. I also have bubble in my vocabulary. I thought you were gonna give us something. Magical, but I, bubble I could have said as well.
1:07:14 Speaker 01 No, I also want, I, I, I want to show that I have the common touch, you know, I speak the language of the common man.
1:07:18 Trevor Noah? Bubble. We'll go with bubble then, damn. I'm glad I, I, I am glad I deferred to you, Joe. No, the World Cup. I was, I was trying to explain um to my American friends.
1:07:30 Speaker 01 Oh, you have some as well.
1:07:33 Trevor Noah? I didn't wanna mention it, but I was trying to explain to my American friends why Iran is playing in the World Cup. They were like, but America's at war with Iran. How can you, how can, then I was like, guys, the World Cup is something that goes beyond your petty grievances.
1:07:52 Speaker 01 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
1:07:53 Trevor Noah? And these ideas you have of world leaders and political affiliations and yo, everything stops.
1:08:02 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:08:05 Trevor Noah? During the World Cup in South Africa in 2010, do you know how much crime we had? None.
1:08:11 Speaker 01 Plammeted, yes.
1:08:12 Trevor Noah? None, Joe. It was just, shh. When FIFA comes to your country.
1:08:19 Speaker 01 FIFA takes over the country.
1:08:20 Trevor Noah? It is like being invaded.
1:08:22 Speaker 01 Yes, yes.
1:08:23 Trevor Noah? By a very polite invading force. It's a benevolent.
1:08:27 Speaker 01 Occupying force.
1:08:28 Trevor Noah? Yes. They come in, they bring festivity and joy and immense financial pressure, if we're honest, to your country.
1:08:36 Speaker 01 What people forget, FIFA actually enacts its own laws.
1:08:39 Trevor Noah? Yes, they don't know that.
1:08:40 Speaker 01 They come and take over the legal system.
1:08:41 Trevor Noah? Yes.
1:08:41 Speaker 01 Because when someone violates any copyright, they want to try them immediately prosecute them, yes. Your, your, your, your legal system.
1:08:50 Trevor Noah? It just pauses. So Iran playing in the World Cup is not as crazy as people think because Iran made it into the World Cup. But I do wanna see what it'll be like when Iran is on the pitch.
1:09:03 Speaker 01 It'll be interesting because there's a huge Iranian diaspora in America.
1:09:08 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but like.
1:09:09 Speaker 01 So.
1:09:09 Trevor Noah? Yeah, I, I'm with you there. I'm with you there, but.
1:09:12 Speaker 01 They won't be wanting for fans. Like they'll have enough fans, like people will show up.
1:09:17 Trevor Noah? Yeah, that's true, actually.
1:09:18 Speaker 01 Ah, but it's gonna be very interesting because they were initially based in America. And then the Iranian, the, the, the, their delegation demanded that they be moved out of America. So they're gonna be flying into America, playing the games and then going back to, to Mexico.
1:09:33 Trevor Noah? Why would they do that?
1:09:33 Speaker 01 They moved their base to Mexico.
1:09:34 Trevor Noah? Why would they do that?
1:09:35 Speaker 01 They didn't want to be in America.
1:09:38 Trevor Noah? Man, now you hurting, now you're cutting off your nose.
1:09:40 Speaker 01 No, they, they went like, we'd rather train in Mexico, come, because they're playing all their games in America.
1:09:44 Trevor Noah? Yeah, but that's, you see, you've hurt yourself. That to me, like, you've, now your team is tired, they, you know, you, you don't wanna, you don't wanna do that. I mean, we'll, we'll see what, I, I, I predict, I predict that, that, that won't go on.
1:09:55 Speaker 01 No, no, but you're right. I remember in South Africa again, I was, I was explaining to my South African friends, uh, during twenty ten.
1:10:01 Trevor Noah? Is that me?
1:10:02 Speaker 01 Yes, no, I have some, uh, I have some.
1:10:04 Trevor Noah? When were you explaining to me?
1:10:07 Speaker 01 You mean, South Africa, when North Korea played in South, in South Africa, and people, they go, no, we didn't know North Korea is even allowed to play in the World Cup. But that's the thing, that's the special thing about the World Cup. In, England played Argentina in eighty six.
1:10:18 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
1:10:19 Speaker 01 Just, I think, two, three years after that fought over the Falklands, that's the special thing about the World Cup. Once the World Cup starts, forget your wars, forget your, it's the game.
1:10:31 Trevor Noah? They should include a new rule. If two countries
1:10:34 Speaker 01 Are fighting?
1:10:35 Trevor Noah? Are fighting and play against each other in the World Cup, whoever wins that game, wins the dispute.
1:10:40 Speaker 01 You know, that's funny, because in nineteen ninety eight, Iran played, because Iran and the US have been mortal enemies forever.
1:10:47 Trevor Noah? Right.
1:10:47 Speaker 01 They played in ninety eight, Iran won two one. They played in Qatar, which was supposed to be like the revenge game, and it turned out to be because the US won two one. So, fingers crossed, yeah, fingers crossed, yeah, they, they meet in the knockouts. And then whoever wins, that should be the rule. Whoever wins, we open up the straight of homos.
1:11:09 Trevor Noah? Whoever wins wins the straight of homos.
1:11:11 Speaker 01 Yes, yes, it should be the trophy.
1:11:12 Trevor Noah? Now, this is, this is sports betting now.
1:11:13 Speaker 01 That's, that's high stakes now.
1:11:14 Trevor Noah? This is ultimate sports betting now.
1:11:16 Speaker 01 That should be.
1:11:17 Trevor Noah? Put your money where your mouth is. Who do you think would win, Iran or USA? Because Team USA, if we're honest, is not looking that great.
1:11:25 Speaker 01 I think Iran.
1:11:25 Trevor Noah? Like the, the tools that they have.
1:11:26 Speaker 01 I, I think Iran would win simply because of the stakes. Like, when, I feel like the US, when they are playing, especially when The few times I've seen them play against Iran, there's just two times. It feels like the Iranians know that there's more at stake than just the result.
1:11:40 Trevor Noah? Oh, they're playing for their family.
1:11:41 Speaker 01 Yeah, they're playing for everything. They're playing for national pride and also like they're a smaller country geopolitically. So this means everything to them. The Americans are playing, you know, but they're not playing the way, they don't play with the same passion they play against Mexico. If you've watched America play against Mexico, Americans fans, American players are really locked in. There are fights happening when they play against Iran, they, it's not the rival.
1:12:04 Trevor Noah? See them.
1:12:04 Speaker 01 Yes, yes.
1:12:05 Trevor Noah? That's the problem. They don't see them. Okay. So what are your predictions? Who do you think is going to win the World Cup? Let's start with the easy ones. My prediction is France. I say France is going to win the World Cup.
1:12:16 Speaker 01 I would love to say France, but I think history forces me not to, because no team has.
1:12:20 Trevor Noah? What does that mean?
1:12:21 Speaker 01 Because no team has made three World Cup finals and won two out of them. So France made.
1:12:27 Trevor Noah? You're gonna, you're gonna let history cockblock you?
1:12:28 Speaker 01 Because France, France, France made the final in twenty eighteen, won it, made the final in the last World Cup.
1:12:33 Trevor Noah? History has shown that no one has responded to you swiping right, but that doesn't stop you.
1:12:38 Speaker 01 We can change that right now. Where's my phone?
1:12:40 Trevor Noah? That doesn't stop you, Joe.
1:12:41 Speaker 01 Change that right now. Because now you forget one thing, I'm on a podcast.
1:12:44 Trevor Noah? Exactly, Joe. Anything can happen now.
1:12:46 Speaker 01 Guys on a podcast.
1:12:47 Trevor Noah? Anything can happen. Women love guys on podcasts. Women are always like, oh, more of this, please.
1:12:51 Speaker 01 Give more guys mics.
1:12:52 Trevor Noah? Guys, just talk, oh, please, we need more of this. Women are like, oh, wow, you have a microphone and you're espousing opinions that are not based in fact nor in expertise. Please, give me more of this. Give me more. Oh, you're gonna have a great time, Joe. So forget history. What are you saying?
1:13:08 Speaker 01 I think Spain is going to win it.
1:13:09 Trevor Noah? You think, you think Spain will win the World?
1:13:11 Speaker 01 I think, I think Spain is too balanced.
1:13:13 Trevor Noah? Can you do me a favor?
1:13:14 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:13:14 Trevor Noah? Remove the word think?
1:13:16 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:13:16 Trevor Noah? This is not about thinking.
1:13:17 Speaker 01 I firmly believe Spain is going to win.
1:13:18 Trevor Noah? Thank you very much. Okay. So Spain's winning the World Cup. I say France is winning the World Cup. All right. Now, who do we think as a backup, a dark horse winner of the World Cup?
1:13:28 Speaker 01 Discounting Argentina because of Messi, I think no way.
1:13:31 Trevor Noah? No, you can't discount Argentina.
1:13:33 Speaker 01 No, because, no, because a team with Messi can't be a dark horse.
1:13:36 Trevor Noah? No, they are dark horse.
1:13:37 Speaker 01 No, a dark horse is one you don't expect to win.
1:13:39 Trevor Noah? So you expect them to win?
1:13:40 Speaker 01 I expect Messi to win.
1:13:42 Trevor Noah? Okay, so Norway?
1:13:42 Speaker 01 Yes, Norway because they have, they went through their qualifiers, almost unbeaten, and they have.
1:13:49 Trevor Noah? Erling Haaland?
1:13:50 Speaker 01 Erling Haaland, they have Soloth.
1:13:51 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
1:13:52 Speaker 01 They have like a very good, they have, uh.
1:13:53 Trevor Noah? They have a solid team.
1:13:54 Speaker 01 Yeah, they have a solid team.
1:13:55 Trevor Noah? Oscar Bob is, isn't he?
1:13:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, um, Oregad.
1:13:58 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
1:13:59 Speaker 01 They have like a very, yeah, they have a very, very good team.
1:14:01 Trevor Noah? If you can get the ball from the back to the middle to the front, you can win any game.
1:14:04 Speaker 01 They have a very, very good team, so I think they're the team that might surprise, surprise us the most. If you're talking about dark horses.
1:14:10 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
1:14:10 Speaker 01 That's the team that might go farther than we expect.
1:14:12 Trevor Noah? Which African team do you think has the best chance?
1:14:18 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:14:24 Speaker 01 I, I would love to be hopeful and say maybe Ghana, but I watched their friend against Mexico, they were not. I, I, I, look.
1:14:32 Trevor Noah? Senegal?
1:14:33 Speaker 01 Senegal is always in there, but I don't think they have.
1:14:37 Trevor Noah? Discipline.
1:14:38 Speaker 01 No, no, I think, I think Man is a bit older. I think they played well in the African Nations Cup, which they won under, you know, the circumstances, they won in. I feel like the North African teams never go far in the World Cup, they always.
1:14:53 Trevor Noah? Morocco had the darling run.
1:14:55 Speaker 01 Yeah, okay, yeah, I, I, I, I think I would look at Morocco. I would look at, but Morocco surprised us in Qatar because they were the surprise. I think teams are going to be.
1:15:03 Trevor Noah? Ready for them now.
1:15:04 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:15:04 Trevor Noah? Yeah, okay.
1:15:05 Speaker 01 So I would go, and then the other team like Diarra Kong, I think they'll just.
1:15:12 Speaker 01 I think they'll be, I think, I'm not thinking, I'm not thinking they're making up the numbers, but I'm thinking they'll just hope that they have a better outing than they did.
1:15:18 Trevor Noah? Right, yeah.
1:15:18 Speaker 01 Cup they went in, which was nineteen seventy four, and they lost so badly that their president almost threatened to not allow them back into the country. So I hope anything better than that, anything better than your president going like, oh, you're going to become persona non grata. Will be a win for Diarra Kong.
1:15:36 Trevor Noah? Man.
1:15:40 Speaker 01 As someone said, they left not with their heads held high, but at least they still had their heads. So, anything better than that, I think, I, I think Morocco, I think Morocco and Senegal, they're the two teams that also made it to the final of the Nations Cup.
1:15:53 Trevor Noah? Yeah, so they have, they have the best chance. The best chance of the not best chance havers.
1:15:57 Speaker 01 But I think Morocco really surprised us because they were surprised. Our teams are going to be ready for them.
1:16:02 Trevor Noah? I'm excited, bro. This is gonna be a big one. We're gonna be doing, we're gonna be doing the watch party. That's gonna be dope.
1:16:06 Speaker 01 But also remember, there are also so many small teams. That's the thing I also love about this World Cup. There's so many small, small teams. Cape Verde, Kurakau, Uzbekistan.
1:16:16 Trevor Noah? Are you just making up names?
1:16:17 Speaker 01 No, no, these are teams, these are teams that are going to be playing. And I think.
1:16:20 Trevor Noah? I feel like now you're just like making up words.
1:16:22 Speaker 01 I think it sounds.
1:16:24 Trevor Noah? First of all, it's Cape Town, okay? I don't know why this guy, he's just like making up things.
1:16:29 Speaker 01 There are white people watching, going like, is he casting?
1:16:31 Trevor Noah? Corazon, Corazon is a, is a Spanish word.
1:16:33 Speaker 01 I don't, yeah, but I think, I think it's gonna.
1:16:35 Trevor Noah? No, I'm joking. It is, it's great, it's great for them.
1:16:37 Speaker 01 That's, that's the great thing about expanding the World Cup. It gives every country a chance. Uzbekistan, who knew, are going to be at the World Cup. I think it also gives Americans a chance to learn geography without invading countries, because normally, normally the only way Americans learn about countries is.
1:16:55 Trevor Noah? You know what I, you know why I'm laughing? I'm laughing because you think Americans are gonna be watching the World Cup?
1:17:01 Speaker 01 At home.
1:17:02 Trevor Noah? You think Americans are gonna watch the Kurosaw game?
1:17:05 Speaker 01 I think they're going to be watching the Kurosaw game if we do it as part of our World Cup watch party.
1:17:11 Trevor Noah? I mean, we'll, we'll see. It's gonna be fun, man.
1:17:13 Speaker 01 It's the perfect, it's the perfect way for Americans to watch the game.
1:17:15 Trevor Noah? It's, it's, it's gonna be fun. As long as they score a lot of goals and they make it exciting. Here's, here's what I, I pitched to FIFA. If you want as many Americans watching this as possible, you should engineer a few moments. So.
1:17:29 Speaker 01 So you should bring the games?
1:17:30 Trevor Noah? No, not the games. Engineer a few moments. So like at the, like, have a fight, break out.
1:17:38 Trevor Noah? Between two teams before a game and then have it go viral.
1:17:43 Speaker 01 Oh, you mean the teams on the fans?
1:17:44 Trevor Noah? Not the fans, the teams. Have a few like moments, because I think that's also something that that that hampers um hampers soccer. Like soccer, the thing that hampers soccer in America is there aren't enough personal storylines. You see, so in America, they'll go, it it's LeBron James and the Lakers going up against, you know, Shane Fielder Alexander and OKC. It's like they make it a personal story, they they make it a thing that that gets you vested. We just go like, ah, kurasa, Uzbekistan, that that doesn't get Americans, and Americans want to know.
1:18:16 Speaker 01 You need dramatic stakes to be.
1:18:17 Trevor Noah? They want the antagon, they want Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. So Americans got to create that. They should also encourage the players to like make videos like Messi, Ronaldo. It'd be great if they made videos to each other, like, let me tell you something, brother.
1:18:30 Speaker 01 Okay, okay, okay.
1:18:30 Trevor Noah? I want you to understand, this might be my last World Cup, but I'm coming for you, Messi. I'm coming for you, brother. And a lot of people say that you got to be me, but you ain't got what it takes.
1:18:41 Speaker 01 So turn it into a bit of wrestling, WWE.
1:18:43 Trevor Noah? Just a little bit, and I think you're gonna bring the American crowd in.
1:18:47 Speaker 01 I'm I'm I'm, here's my.
1:18:50 Trevor Noah? And if they don't do it, I'll I'm more than willing to do it for them.
1:18:52 Speaker 01 Look, I'm a huge, I'm a huge, huge World Cup fan, but here's the thing about the World Cup held in the US. And I was just thinking about this when you when you're talking about how we can court more American fans. You know, when the World Cup was held in Qatar?
1:19:05 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
1:19:05 Speaker 01 There was a huge backlash, it was controversial, controversial project. And we went like, okay, next World Cup, the host should have a proud footballing history. Because Qatar had none.
1:19:15 Trevor Noah? Yeah.
1:19:16 Speaker 01 They should have a great LGBTQ record because Qatar had none. Ah, they should have no corruption, no stench of corruption, because Qatar had a lot of that. We went like, there should be, women's rights should be respected by the next host. Because Qatar clearly didn't respect human rights. And then we're like, you know what? They shouldn't have like an immigrant labor crisis. That's what, that's the checklist. Oh, and also when the, okay, there should be no gun violence, there should be no, they shouldn't have a broken healthcare system, they shouldn't have systemic racism, and it should be, okay, the next host at least should not be a failed democracy. And what did FIFA do? FIFA chose the USA.
1:19:59 Trevor Noah? I hope you have a green card eh?
1:20:00 Speaker 01 They had one job.
1:20:01 Trevor Noah? Hmm hmm.
1:20:02 Speaker 01 And they somehow managed to pick a team.
1:20:05 Trevor Noah? Fighting words. Fighting words. I hope you don't have any international flights planned soon buddy.
1:20:12 Speaker 01 But still super excited because you know when the World Cup starts, then all that flies out of the window. The moment the kickoff happens.
1:20:18 Trevor Noah? Hey man, that's look, one of the biggest things about it.
1:20:20 Speaker 01 Begins.
1:20:21 Trevor Noah? As soon as the FIFA World Cup kicks off, the world stops, comes together. And I don't even say this in like a cheesy way. There are few moments, other than wars.
1:20:34 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:20:35 Trevor Noah? That bring as many people together in one spectacle. There are few moments that connect as many human beings as a World Cup. There are no moments where Kourasao is going to be having a conversation with New Zealand, having a conversation with Iran, having a conversation with South Africa, having a conversation with Brazil, having a conversation with the United States, having a conversation with Mexico, having a... There's no other events.
1:20:57 Speaker 01 Forget conversation, there's no other event where people from Uzbekistan are going to be trash talking America. And that's the good thing about the World Cup, like you get a chance to trash talk. And I think our World Cup watch party is going to give fans who are not as deep into the game, a very good outlet because it just.
1:21:16 Trevor Noah? Well, I mean, if you're gonna be there.
1:21:17 Speaker 01 It just won't be like.
1:21:18 Trevor Noah? If you're gonna be there, even if people don't like football, if they're fans of dating apps, haha, they've come to the right place. I'll tell you that much.
1:21:25 Speaker 01 Maybe that's what we should call it, the World Cup for America, maybe that's how, that's how, that's a perfect way to describe it. It's like Coachella meets Burning Man meets you swiping right on dating apps and getting swiped right back. Not being left on read. That's to me how it feels and I'm pretty excited.
1:21:41 Trevor Noah? You know what I'm gonna do now Joe?
1:21:42 Speaker 01 Really excited.
1:21:43 Trevor Noah? I'm gonna swipe left on this episode and say that it's done. Uh, this was great man. I'll see you, I'll see you next week and we'll um, we'll see where we go from here. It's gonna be exciting and for everyone else who's joining us, welcome to the World Cup.
1:21:57 Speaker 01 Oh, it's gonna be a roller coaster ride of emotions.
1:21:59 Trevor Noah? Or as they say in South America, mundial.
1:22:02 Speaker 01 Welcome to mundial.
1:22:03 Trevor Noah? Welcome.
1:22:04 Speaker 01 Bienvenido a mundial.
1:22:06 Trevor Noah? Hmm. Alright dope.
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